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2194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-07T22:53:04.1990000-05:00So laser has 15k in the bank for laser
3194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-07T22:54:19.4930000-05:00What options are we looking at for this kind of stuff
4300084951594958849jphelps2017-04-07T22:56:38.8830000-05:00Sharks?
5194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-07T22:57:31.2510000-05:00I was thinking more lasers before we put them on sharks.
6194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-07T22:57:52.9010000-05:00Could get a better epilog. Or another thunder.
7194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-07T22:58:13.6650000-05:00Should probably get spare tubes for the machines we have
8300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-08T01:34:03.2800000-05:00Are epilogs significantly more expensive than thunder? Dont think we have the funds for that yet.
9300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-08T01:35:31.4940000-05:00Since we just decided to put money into the saur I'd prefer to get spare tubes and parts, improve the area more, and continue to save up for a while longer for a new laser
10194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-08T03:09:28.0990000-05:00yeah spare tube for sure
11194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-08T03:14:41.5740000-05:00epilogs are very expensive, we could probabyl get one a bit larger than the zzing for like 15k
12300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-08T03:15:51.5950000-05:00One luke or alex and I were looking at online was like 45k
13300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-08T03:16:39.1380000-05:00Think it was like​ 2x3. Long way to go to save up for that
14194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-08T03:24:27.0610000-05:00yeah thats a big one
15194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-08T03:24:55.0390000-05:00they are far better at rasters and high dpi though
16300111545583665152furious_jorge2017-04-08T07:50:20.6030000-05:00Last year I backed this kickstarter. Codex Silenda. This is my next laser project https://www.codexsilenda.com/gallery
17194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-08T13:31:00.1830000-05:00That was definitely cool when I saw it. Would be awesome to make
18300111545583665152furious_jorge2017-04-10T10:02:07.5550000-05:00They've finally finished the final final set of files. I'm going to give it ago in a few weeks.
19300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-10T10:05:31.3390000-05:00👍👍
20300320547588276225clk94312017-04-10T12:13:36.8240000-05:00I may be asking for a Zing mentor soon. I thought Saur would be the hardest machine, but for whatever reason, I'm not getting a print from Zing. I was hoping to try the linoleum stamp thing this week. Is there a Zing master out there that would let me watch the next time they cut something? I could probably pick up enough by watching to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
21194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T17:33:25.8210000-05:00whats your file type?
22300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T17:47:52.7140000-05:00PDF. But I think the problem is that I'm not using vector to draw before saving. I'm taking John's Inkscape class tomorrow. I know not to print from Inkscape on Zing, but it will help to understand vector drawing better. I managed to raster a couple of things today, but could not do it a second time. Something in the print sequence, I think. One was from Acrobat, another from AI. It's definitely new territory for me.
23194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T17:49:19.4600000-05:00you cant print direct from inkscape. have to go the convoluted route. ie inkscape >pdf>adobe reader> print to zing
24300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T17:50:31.9500000-05:00Yes it sounds like file type and path errors. Your paths have to be a certain stroke size for the zing to recognize it. I can't remember the number.... 0.01 inches maybe? It's in the book and in the laser class info book on the wiki but unfortunately dont have time to look it up right now
25300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T17:50:53.1300000-05:000.001 for a cut.
26194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T17:50:57.8990000-05:00it REALLY doesnt like inkscape files
27300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T17:51:33.2570000-05:00It sounds like John's class will be really helpful for these kinds of questions
28300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T17:53:17.4500000-05:00And thanks, couldnt remember how many zeros
29300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T17:54:45.0840000-05:00I'll get there. It will take longer than I expected. Should be a sign posted everywhere at DMS. 😉
30194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T17:54:45.5230000-05:00i have created "roles" for the individual lasers. this will allow people to get pinged for specific machines for help instead of all at once. if you would like to be added to a role for a machine let me know which ones you feel proficient in ie zing, thunder or saur
31194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T17:54:55.0590000-05:00this is kind of a test bed for the roles
32300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T17:58:16.5610000-05:00Such a great idea. Thanks for your effort. Same idea was shot down on Talk a few days ago. I think it makes a lot of sense, though. You can put me to sewing if you move to other areas.
33300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T18:02:04.0500000-05:00Looking for feedback... The other day John suggested installing RDWorks on the Zing computer since it is used less than Thunder so people can work on settings while waiting in queue. I have my thoughts on this but wanted to query the group. Good idea or no?
34300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T18:02:43.5000000-05:00Will post in the hangout too since we're in transition
35194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T18:03:43.8630000-05:00cant hurt but could hinder use on the zing,
36194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T18:04:04.6750000-05:00the computers arent for designing
37194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T18:04:32.2240000-05:00we put rdworks on the jump right? they could use their personal computer to prep files
38300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T18:06:03.3980000-05:00That's my thought too. I dont want to encourage people to hog the computers, because that's already kind of a problem as it is
39194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T18:06:14.7100000-05:00yes
40300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T18:07:52.6630000-05:00Ok thanks for the feedback! Unless somebody makes a compelling argument, I'm saying no
41194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T18:08:02.2970000-05:00@lukeiamyourfather one of us. one of us.
42210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-11T18:08:37.1620000-05:00Yeah yeah yeah
43194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T18:11:04.0140000-05:00ill win this fight somehow
44300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T18:12:10.7130000-05:00I'm with ya. I'm really liking everything in one place not mixed in with my personal hangout chats
45300077286840074241tomthm99002017-04-11T19:00:58.7300000-05:00Speaking of the Zing, it feels cramped I'm doing something on the Zing itself and when someone is working at the Thunder computer. What if the Zing and its computer were swapped? May not be any better, but what if the Zing were on the left end of the table?
46194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T19:06:01.7810000-05:00merissa was talking about changing the layout up some
47300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T19:10:23.1310000-05:00Yes, I want to do that asap but will be out of state for a week and a half starting next week
48300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T19:11:17.2510000-05:00I'd like to have a laser area workday on maybe April 30th
49300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T19:11:29.3370000-05:00Would people be available to help that day?
50194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T19:11:41.8660000-05:00probably
51300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T21:09:13.4410000-05:00I can after 2pm.
52300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:46:48.9240000-05:00Thanks Cindy!
53300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:47:24.4100000-05:00Asking people on the hangout too, and will put it on the calendar soon
54194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T21:49:40.5770000-05:00Get those holdouts in here
55194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T21:51:02.0510000-05:00Wear cloths that can get dirty, bring gloves, .Aybe a respirator
56194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T21:51:37.4000000-05:00The lasers are dirty. Moving them will not be clean
57300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T21:53:38.2870000-05:00The cleaning lady told me today that she really wanted to organize the stuff behind Saur for the scrap pile. I told her that the pile(s) were our problem; we'd handle it. That said, we kind of need to handle it soon. I'm the queen of that particular scrap pile having scavenged from it greatly the last couple of weeks. Mind if I take it on tomorrow?
58300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:55:31.0770000-05:00The scrap pile is a point of frustration for me as it gets so full and hard to be usable without getting stabbed by a sharp corner of something
59300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:55:59.1040000-05:00So I'd be very appreciative if you want to organize/clean it up
60300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:56:16.1800000-05:00I do occasionally but it's hard to keep up with
61300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T21:56:18.7750000-05:00I figure anything more narrow than a couple of inches isn't going to be of use. I'd also like to separate it between wood, acrylic, and cardboard.
62300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:56:55.7920000-05:00Yes! That would be great! Thank you!
63300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T21:57:04.6840000-05:00Will do.
64300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:57:12.9730000-05:00👍
65300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T21:58:04.3760000-05:00When we reorganize I'd like to shrink it down some
66300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T21:58:54.0010000-05:00Girl power in play here. I have a couple of ideas that might sync with yours.
67300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:00:23.4220000-05:00Awesome :) if you want to share before the 30th let me know
68300320547588276225clk94312017-04-11T22:01:34.8880000-05:00We'll see how well I pull it off tomorrow. Let you know after that.
69300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:05:36.9990000-05:00Sounds good :)
70194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:33:42.6060000-05:00We used to have a rule that scrap that wasn't 4x4 inch or had 16² inches of usability wasn't supposed to go on the shelf
71194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:34:19.8040000-05:00But no one fucking breaks up the tiny end parts on the large stuff so the pile is full of huge holes
72300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:34:28.4890000-05:00I like it! Time to reinstate!
73300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:34:41.0640000-05:00Yes that's what drives me nuts
74194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:35:00.3600000-05:00I was going to suggest we make a 4x4 clear acrylic square and engrave it with the rule
75194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:35:23.8750000-05:00Then hang it with some Paracord so you can hold it over the scrap to check
76194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:35:46.7920000-05:00Scrap should be covered in the class too...
77300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:36:13.6130000-05:00I like it, and having separate spots for different materialz
78194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:41:47.1440000-05:00Yeah I was thinking about making more dividers and some lables
79194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:42:10.3380000-05:00Maybe more shelves for the horizontal so it doesn't get so heavy
80300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:44:29.6970000-05:00Maybe crazy idea... What about shallow bins you could pull out from the bottom shelf under the work table
81300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:45:00.5290000-05:00Thinking something smaller so people have to break the pieces down to just what's usable
82194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:45:46.7390000-05:00Could try to fit bins into the big table
83194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:46:05.7750000-05:00It's more engineering than the slats I was going to make for the current shelf
84194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:46:32.4650000-05:00What do you want to do with the stuff under the table currently?
85300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:48:47.0970000-05:00First figure out what all of it is
86194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-11T22:52:29.8830000-05:00The big question is does it fit any of our current lasers
87300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:54:27.6890000-05:00Good poont
88300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:54:33.7570000-05:00*point
89300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:55:03.8760000-05:00And need a better way to lock up lenses and stuff we dont want walking off
90300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-11T22:56:21.5680000-05:00Would prefer to have something like this instead of the toolboxes https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Classics-UltraHD-Rolling-UHD20205B/dp/B001E91SQQ
91300320547588276225clk94312017-04-12T06:58:57.8290000-05:00I was thinking of labeling vertical storage between foam (added that), cardboard, acrylic, and wood. Then I think it makes sense to divide the horizontal storage (maybe leaving out cardboard) for smaller pieces. The one thing I've not been able to come up with is something to cut with that helps tame all those jagged edges before you put something to the bin. (Maybe a hanging utility knife?) Also, perhaps an understanding that if you shelve something for free material, you need to grab a lesser quality piece and put it to the trash? Definitely a little maker hoarder thinking going on for those shelves. I totally understand (see also fabric), but it does become impractical after a while.
92300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-12T07:29:40.3490000-05:00All that sounds good to me and I truly appreciate the effort, but just fyi it could change in a few weeks. So if you're ok with that I am too :) On the work day on the 30th I want to figure out a smaller scrap shelf option in hopes of it being more usable.
93300320547588276225clk94312017-04-12T08:14:15.9740000-05:00Sure. It won't take long. I'm just going to hand-write labels.
94300320547588276225clk94312017-04-12T08:14:49.2060000-05:00Might be a good test to see if it even holds before coming up with something more specific
95300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-12T08:47:07.5670000-05:00👍
96300320547588276225clk94312017-04-12T15:45:11.0130000-05:00Done. Looks darn good, but I doubt it stays that way. Took about 45 minutes. I'd propose a few drawers/bins for smaller pieces, but I know change is coming, so it's best to let it wait.
97300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-12T15:55:10.1380000-05:00Yay!
98300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-12T15:55:42.5840000-05:00Hmm was about to ask for pics but will be there tonight anyways :)
99300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-12T15:55:58.0030000-05:00Let's hope it can stay clean that long!
100300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-12T15:57:08.1810000-05:00Will probably make a talk post encouraging people to be more excellent and clean up after themselves
101210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-12T23:46:07.7490000-05:00There's a new heatsink by the lasersaur computer with a label on it
102210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-12T23:46:19.6330000-05:00I meant to install it but won't be able to in the near future
103210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-12T23:46:39.7240000-05:00Anyone feel free to do it if you have the time 👍
104300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T09:37:54.4620000-05:00Is there paste in electronics?
105300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T09:38:02.9830000-05:00Or do they still do that?
106194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T10:51:16.4210000-05:00I don't think they would have thermal paste for PCs
107300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T10:53:21.7340000-05:00My stash is in WI. I'll let myself off the hook with this one.
108300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T10:54:12.6740000-05:00Wish I could figure out the Infrastructure/committee division on the PCs, though. Rather confusing as to who does what.
109194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T10:55:40.2290000-05:00I might have some from my last build. Usually the new CPU coolers have it pre applied because people are dumb as hell now days
110300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T10:56:09.3060000-05:00Yeah. Like forgetting to peel the plastic. I'll check if it's still out next time I'm there.
111300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T12:06:20.7870000-05:00Nevermind. That heatsink could take on Godzilla. Not gonna touch it. I'm a simple girl. Best to stick to simple tasks...
112302103816428322817coderzer0hkarl36702017-04-13T12:25:49.4450000-05:00Don't they come with thermal tape stuff now on the bottom?
113194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T12:53:45.5050000-05:00Hopefully
114300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T13:22:51.3460000-05:00It did. I just wasn't up to pulling the motherboard. It's been a couple of years, and it's not my machine. 😃👍 (1)
115194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T13:42:44.2370000-05:00haha yeah thats why it didnt happen last night either
116302103816428322817coderzer0hkarl36702017-04-13T13:42:59.5580000-05:00😃
117189645236908064768themitch222017-04-13T15:16:09.1350000-05:00I have thermal paste i can do it when I come by tonight
118189645236908064768themitch222017-04-13T15:16:16.9260000-05:00I'll forget so if you see me remind me
119194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T15:18:22.0750000-05:00cindy said it had thermal stuff on it already, you just need to be ready to take the entire mobo off to do the swap
120189645236908064768themitch222017-04-13T15:26:03.9190000-05:00eww
121189645236908064768themitch222017-04-13T15:26:05.6360000-05:00ok
122189645236908064768themitch222017-04-13T15:26:29.9900000-05:00I did the other laser computer, I'm sure this one needs to be blown out too
123300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:43:14.4420000-05:00*bowing in gratitude* I appreciate your effort.
124300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:44:10.0270000-05:00Worst computer I ever cleaned out was a daily pot smoker who also kept a rabbit and a cat as pets. Hazmat would have been useful if I'd thought ahead.
125194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T17:44:29.0760000-05:00did he keep it on the floor too?
126300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:44:34.1040000-05:00Oh yes.
127194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T17:44:38.1800000-05:00perfect
128300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:45:18.0130000-05:00Honestly. Defined my moment as the neighborhood computer geek. Almost topped the porn I picked off a girlfriend's unit, but not quite. 😉
129194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T17:48:08.3010000-05:00thats always awkward when a friend asks you to fix a pc. just click past it
130300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:50:48.9840000-05:00I learned my lesson. Maybe that's why we keep such ridiculously small hard drives on PCs at the 'space?
131300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:51:17.6620000-05:00Less of an opportunity to store your favorites.
132194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-13T17:51:36.4870000-05:00ahahahah im gonna jinx it but hard drives overflowing with porn hasnt been a problem at the space☣ (1)
133300320547588276225clk94312017-04-13T17:52:25.7620000-05:00😉
134189645236908064768themitch222017-04-17T22:48:10.1790000-05:00Anyone know where the other lenses are for the thunder laser
135189645236908064768themitch222017-04-17T22:48:26.1270000-05:00like the HD lens
136194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-18T21:17:43.7530000-05:00All of the lens holders have been recovered
137300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-18T21:39:09.4350000-05:00🖒🖒
138300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-18T23:06:00.9360000-05:00Fyi guys - I'm out if state with spotty cell service for the next week so if anything big comes up that I can't respond to timely I defer to Luke and Pearce
139300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-18T23:12:05.2270000-05:00Have fun!
140300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-21T14:35:47.4090000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/advice-fixing-emblazer/20487?u=lisaselk
141300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T00:13:23.0690000-05:00Got back in late tonight. Thanks to all who handled things in my absence
142300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T00:16:10.0920000-05:00@pearce it says I dont have access to the committee chairs chat
143300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T00:25:46.3600000-05:00Is there news no one told me about? 😋
144194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T00:35:14.6230000-05:00Oops. Let me get online and sort out all the new chairs
145194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T00:35:28.9700000-05:00And yes.
146300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T00:36:04.9520000-05:00Yes news?
147194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T00:44:40.0770000-05:00sorry i forgot to add you to the other chairs group
148300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T00:46:02.5440000-05:00No problem, thanks for fixing
149194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T09:58:54.3390000-05:00@merissa sorry, you missed the acrylic and wood donation because I forgot to add the chairs role to you. That's where Alex gave chairs first dibs
150194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T09:59:31.0580000-05:00I did ask for some of the plywood so we could use it for the scrap shelf
151300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T10:11:59.5600000-05:00That's ok. Thanks for getting some of it! Thinking towards area clean up would be good to make some wall mounted shelves to display lasered items to solve the issue of stuff floating around on top of the lasers
152210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-26T19:29:47.6370000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/306950019229941761/IMG_20170426_192856.jpg?ex=67b9c33b&is=67b871bb&hm=08db177bf369a1120edd2957cc5d3778400c6af2097a45c0e0b7ad84e03f5a06&
153210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-26T19:30:14.8410000-05:00Lasersaur motherboard from Austria
154300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-26T19:30:40.7760000-05:00🖒
155194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-26T19:45:43.6940000-05:00That metal case though
156194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-26T19:45:59.8510000-05:00TAKE THAT RF NOISE!
157300320547588276225clk94312017-04-26T21:18:22.0980000-05:00So the upgrade is on?
158194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-26T21:23:06.4190000-05:00For the saur
159189645236908064768themitch222017-04-27T01:48:17.9050000-05:00yay!!!
160189645236908064768themitch222017-04-27T01:48:26.2280000-05:00Lasersaur FTW
161189645236908064768themitch222017-04-27T01:48:40.4740000-05:00Luke if you need help with the lasersaur let me know
162300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T07:43:24.2050000-05:00Reminder guys - laser area work day this Sunday starting at 3pm
163300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T07:44:18.8440000-05:00Please come out and help maintain the lasers and clean up and organize our area
164300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T07:44:34.1480000-05:00Wear something you won't mind getting dirty!
165300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T10:08:39.4160000-05:00I think @gbeauw @Lampy (Ken Purcell) and @pearce said they might be available. Anyone else?
166194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T11:35:59.3610000-05:00Turns out I have Alton Brown that night so I might have to miss it
167300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:46:26.4820000-05:00Holy crap! We're going to that this weekend too that I completely forgot about!
168300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:46:43.0320000-05:00Need to check which time we're going to...
169194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T11:48:28.4280000-05:00Yeah it starts at 7
170300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:48:43.0690000-05:00Ahh ok. We have tickets to the saturday afternoon show
171194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T11:48:44.4840000-05:00I didn't know there were multiple times.
172300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:49:09.6350000-05:00Yeah think it was an afternoon and evening show over both days
173194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T11:51:39.4500000-05:00Do you want to keep the scrap shelf as it is? Or do we want to switch to the big table with bins? We could opt for storing spare parts and stuff on the pallet rack and 0 scrap on it
174300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:54:50.9600000-05:00I'd like to try scrap bins under the white table but need to take measurements and find a bin to purchase
175300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:56:28.5140000-05:00Do we have enough spare parts to store that would deem keeping the pallet rack necessary?
176300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T11:57:10.4870000-05:00Or could we find a better option like a lockable storage cart
177194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T12:06:40.1470000-05:00Well the tubes are nice to keep very high and out of reach
178194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T12:07:19.0250000-05:00And a spare for each machine wouldn't be hard to imagine
179194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T12:08:10.1690000-05:00Then we have stuff like spare ducting, air line, laser accessories like the tool kits, rotary, etc
180300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T12:09:43.1130000-05:00Good to know. Part of what I want to do Sunday is inventory all spare stuff because I really don't have a clear picture of what all we have on hand
181300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T12:14:35.1280000-05:00Tagging others to see if yall will be available for the Sunday workday @lukeiamyourfather , @tomthm , dont think Gorman has discord... Any others?
182302089838222376960alerho2017-04-27T12:22:45.7060000-05:00On Sunday after I teach the CNC class I planned on getting rid of the Freeman group wood if it's not claimed by then. Please feel free to use as much as you need.
183300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T12:23:13.1790000-05:00Thanks Alex!
184300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T12:23:35.4220000-05:00Do we know yet if that will become a recurring thing?
185302089838222376960alerho2017-04-27T12:25:32.9160000-05:00It will I'm just not sure how often.
186300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T12:25:50.7690000-05:00Awesome
187300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T14:49:58.2610000-05:00So far we've got Tom, Brandon, and I for Sunday. Any other helpers available? I really want to improve the space with input from as many people as possible.
188194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T14:53:40.0890000-05:00Sunday is better
189300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T14:56:41.9780000-05:00?
190194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T15:00:36.0540000-05:00I thought cleaning day was Saturday
191194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T15:01:01.4660000-05:00I was thinking Saturday the 29th
192194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T15:01:16.6230000-05:00If it's Sunday I'm free
193300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T15:01:19.9620000-05:00Ah, no Sunday the 30th at 3pm
194194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T15:01:31.8000000-05:00That'll show me
195300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T15:01:51.8170000-05:00Wohoo! More help! 😃
196302089838222376960alerho2017-04-27T15:06:55.6530000-05:00Im teaching CNC from 2 to about 6. If stuff is still happening I can help then.
197300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T15:07:52.7620000-05:00Thanks Alex! Always know we can count on you no matter what the task :)
198300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:24:28.0250000-05:00One of the things I want to get out of the Sunday workday is feedback about reorganizing the area to use the space more efficiently.
199300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:24:51.4670000-05:00Since only a few have said they can come though, I drew up a sketch of my idea
200300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:25:15.0590000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/307341463132307467/unknown.png?ex=67b9358a&is=67b7e40a&hm=ffa09c6f9ae56c320d9687037df9b86057c60b9a5c37f5c948784f7733cd3d04&
201300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:25:51.2600000-05:00if anyone has thoughts please share them!
202300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-27T21:30:51.3340000-05:00It looks like potentially better placement of the computers. What about the ventilation? Hard tubing like the Woodshop to direct it over the computers? Also, where will the replacement laser tubes and other larger stuff that may not work well stored under the table go? Just tossing out questions to consider, if not already done... I have no better solution off the top my head. Thanks for taking Laser on. :)
203194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T21:32:14.3040000-05:00ventilation will be a hard thing to change. we would have to do it like lisa said, with hardlines
204194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T21:33:35.3110000-05:00and having the back of the machines exposed to walkways may cause problems with disconnects and crushed air tubes
205300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:34:27.0980000-05:00hmm yeah was thinking it would maybe need a partial wall built behind it to protect it
206300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:34:42.3810000-05:00and yes hard ducting
207194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T21:35:06.4300000-05:00i do like the pc being on the right side of the thunder, its closer to the control panel
208300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:35:19.2330000-05:00yeah I thought that would be more convenient
209194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T21:37:49.6820000-05:00saur might not need its own pc table
210194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T21:38:27.2510000-05:00that would allow the thunder to move in some and have a barrier wall
211300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:44:40.2810000-05:00yeah, liked the idea of not using the saur table for a desk anymore since your knees get squished under the table, but would have more space without adding a desk
212300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:44:54.1690000-05:00maybe there we could add a locking cabinet for tubes and lenses?
213300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:48:31.2350000-05:00I'd really like to have an area to lock things up. Maybe a cabinet like this...
214300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T21:48:36.4740000-05:00http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-36-in-x-72-in-Welded-Floor-Cabinet-KF3F361872-H9/204321513?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D59-Storage&Organization%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjwrYbIBRCgnY-OluOk89EBEiQAZER58i9NWiSN2Q60zRbzGUesL-2fuoZwCaTFN7LQ6WP370oaAtuc8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds
215194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T22:05:26.2050000-05:00Could get the ones from Sam's like CA has. Sticking to a brand would make the space look consistent
216300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T22:08:12.7100000-05:00think the tubes would fit in one of the slim ones? https://www.samsclub.com/sams/locker-gear-cabinet-ultrahd/prod20301563.ip?xid=plp7040122-auto:product:1:12
217300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T22:10:07.6600000-05:00then have a smaller rolling cart for tools and lock up lenses? https://www.samsclub.com/sams/4-drawer-cabinet-hard-wood-top/prod13760146.ip?xid=plp:product:1:2
218300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-27T22:30:58.6660000-05:00What about this?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/307358004322500608/LaserArea_v.2.png?ex=67b944f2&is=67b7f372&hm=f26dbbdfd76216fa2b54b489d95a1870860a102ffaa70ed98c460bb3027d881b&
219300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-27T22:31:27.1070000-05:00Oh dangit... I forgot to put the co2 tank back in.. pretend you see it between the lasers 😉
220300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-27T22:35:22.9810000-05:00admittedly this config isn't much different than it is now - except cleaner storage (I was just guessing at the area the cabinets might take....), and the computer in a more convenient location for the Thunder.. plus have the zing and it's computer not be under the armpit of whoever might be using the Saur (since the Saur and Thunder are in reversed locations in this plan - to allow better placement of the computers...).
221300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-27T22:37:35.4130000-05:00I like that too, a improvement but still bugged by the wasted space that collects dust between the lasers
222115183069555589125aceat642017-04-27T22:38:38.5670000-05:00is there any way to change the ducting so the lasers can be back to back?
223194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T22:39:49.6710000-05:00no those two are on separate blowers so you cant combine them
224194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T22:39:58.5980000-05:00and you need some sort of back access
225300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-27T22:57:21.7080000-05:00Thx n yeah the space between was intentional to allow them to be serviced relatively easily since it's probably best not to be trying to move them around any more than necessary.
226194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-27T23:05:40.7190000-05:00sometimes i just pick them up and shake em
227300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-27T23:15:53.6340000-05:00LOLLOLLOL
228300320547588276225clk94312017-04-28T06:24:28.7560000-05:00What's the logic in switching saur and thunder? That's basically the current arrangment, but putting a pc table to the back wall for saur. If there's not really a need to switch the two, then just do that.
229300320547588276225clk94312017-04-28T06:25:22.3110000-05:00I like the idea of moving the saur pc, though. Had a guy land in my lap one afternoon when he missed the top step coming in the back door. No real harm. We were both a little embarassed, though.
230210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-28T08:38:39.4660000-05:00I can help some on Sunday
231300328904671887361mikeglass43672017-04-28T08:42:42.6220000-05:00I should be there Sunday
232300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-28T08:43:38.7550000-05:00Awesome, thanks guys!
233300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-28T10:20:04.3780000-05:00Re swapping the big lasers... location of the computer in relation to the control panel. Not critical ~ just an idea :)
234109359055532732416clone10182017-04-28T10:26:34.7090000-05:00I'll be there sunday for the logistics meeting so i'm free to help before / after
235109359055532732416clone10182017-04-28T10:26:37.0310000-05:00I'll drop by
236300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-28T11:08:24.0620000-05:00Sounds good!
237300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-28T11:09:10.1350000-05:00I definitely want to move the zing at least on Sunday in addition to clean up and inventory, then we'll continue talking about other ideas
238189645236908064768themitch222017-04-30T07:20:10.7730000-05:00Facebook reminded me of this picture of the Lasersuar 2 years agohttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/308215956801323019/11204977_10205099404577123_681988920998164442_n.jpg?ex=67b9c0fa&is=67b86f7a&hm=77e856dc89d7eb42795ce18a16925be16cc7b6050ebe9114872bacca65c55fed&dms (1)
239300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-30T15:15:58.1920000-05:00So far it's just me and Mike cleaning up. Anyone else on the way?
240300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-30T15:31:10.4480000-05:00@merissa you might consider posting a reminder on TALK... I have stuff that I need to get done at home, so won't be able to get to the Space until later - if at all - today. Sorry.
241210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-04-30T15:38:00.5170000-05:00@merissa I'm heading to DMS in a few min
242300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-30T15:38:48.3840000-05:00Thanks Luke!
243194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-30T15:38:59.6910000-05:00Our day is running late. We'll be up soon too
244300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-04-30T15:56:21.4520000-05:00Damn forgot that was today. Stuck working on DMS finance.dumpsterfire (1)
245300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-30T16:39:52.8170000-05:00Anyone know if these are still needed for rotary?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/308356811344445442/20170430_163903.jpg?ex=67b99b68&is=67b849e8&hm=1e14a4ae99ba3e3da92c144e4e5d1865fe44ab7eee97704fde530fe2acb0223a&
246194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-30T16:43:31.0600000-05:00I don't think those are ours
247194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-30T16:43:58.4430000-05:00They could be stands for the rotary
248300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-30T16:49:29.0990000-05:00Are they 3D printed? I know John Gorman has printed a few adapters for specific sized objects... You might send him a PM on TALK if he's not here (I don't see him here... I tried @talkers @john... @gorman)
249194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-30T16:49:46.4780000-05:00Those are wood glue ups
250300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-30T16:50:25.4100000-05:00Oh I was just going by the words "rotary adapters" (ha? ha?)
251300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-30T16:51:16.7800000-05:00I didn't expand the image to see that they were chunks of wood.. I thought it might be a box with the adapters that John printed in it...
252300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-30T17:42:32.8630000-05:00Yeah no the 3d printed ones are in the small toolbox, these were up on one of the shelves above scrap👍 (1)
253109359055532732416clone10182017-04-30T18:13:56.2320000-05:00Made great progress
254109359055532732416clone10182017-04-30T18:14:21.8280000-05:00Were working on the ducting for the zing now it'll be real professional when luke is done with it lol
255300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-01T00:00:54.5370000-05:00Thanks to all who helped today! Looks a lot cleaner and the Zing is located much better now with hard ductingdms (5)
256300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-01T00:01:34.1310000-05:00I only managed one photo before my phone went dead...https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/308467965161111563/20170430_225749.jpg?ex=67b95a2d&is=67b808ad&hm=a6e12bbc9c28d23a4addef16fd87b0a6339c8ad3c2a6d1188efa1fad9acf5bc3&dumpsterfire (1),👍 (1)
257194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-01T00:37:50.8610000-05:00Ay! We made good today! And I didn't set anything on fire! No dumpster fire for you!👍 (2),💯 (2)
258194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T00:49:51.3550000-05:00Lasersaur blower seems to have killed its starter cap
259194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T00:54:54.1200000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/309930938375340033/JPEG_20170505_005436.jpg?ex=67b966ad&is=67b8152d&hm=55f5b44d9acdcec5294905b2ddd9bf4423481691e3b4e006b795a5fbda1e95b5&
260194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T00:55:01.3010000-05:00Bleedy
261194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T01:04:31.2320000-05:00Here's what blewhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/309933359012773889/IMG_20170505_010353.jpg?ex=67b968ef&is=67b8176f&hm=7d4b89dcdaccaeb4d8ae691dbf4de414a0e66a130b34f34fd1c6c9c4910fb39c&
262194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T01:04:55.0900000-05:00Here's the one on the one that we have as a "spare"https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/309933459244187648/IMG_20170505_010305.jpg?ex=67b96906&is=67b81786&hm=bf82ecbd8181ab0bbbd0c3fc92d1bd4a57fb797c25faec68f496d510c8caf4e1&
263306868699422392320rshill_2017-05-05T01:21:56.6660000-05:00Wonder what it sounded like when it blew
264194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T01:25:25.9690000-05:00Whiney
265194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T02:26:05.5950000-05:00Tried new cap. Need to buy new blower
266194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T02:26:15.9220000-05:00Zing and saur are down
267300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-05-05T06:51:18.8190000-05:00They have a hard life at the makerspace.
268300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-05-05T06:51:27.2370000-05:00thanks Pearce!
269303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-05-05T15:42:22.1890000-05:00I think we need one of these: http://i.imgur.com/WoAaUOU.gifv👍 (2)
270194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T15:43:20.8620000-05:00Holy shit. That's cool.
271300083517877125121andrew51522017-05-05T16:35:43.0610000-05:00Yep. Seen those. So much want. (but not enough $$ or space, or justification...)
272194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-05T18:16:57.5420000-05:00Lasers are back in operationdms (2)
273300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-05T18:52:46.4260000-05:00Woot!
274308263307570315266kbraby61742017-05-06T09:02:49.7190000-05:00Technically that is a run cap that creates an additional phase angle. While a motor won't start without it, unlike a start cap, the run cap is always connected. A start cap is added in parallel for motors that need high starting torque, and is disconnected after motor start by either a timer or mechanical switch.
275308263307570315266kbraby61742017-05-06T09:05:11.9490000-05:00A start cap installed as a run cap will usually fail really quickly because they are only designed to run a few seconds for motor start, not the whole time the motor is on.
276189645236908064768themitch222017-05-06T13:32:57.9120000-05:00run cap is for filtering noise from the motor right?
277189645236908064768themitch222017-05-06T13:35:00.4070000-05:00btw I got to check out the giant metal laser cutter at multicam, we definitely need one (it would take up the entire DMS laser area though.
278189645236908064768themitch222017-05-06T13:35:27.3220000-05:00it's a fiber laser that can cut stainless really precisely
279302089838222376960alerho2017-05-06T14:26:12.6380000-05:00Cost?
280194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-06T14:39:36.0300000-05:00For the HF blower? $210. Blower +2 year warranty.
281194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-06T14:42:10.0660000-05:00I'm totally down for them to replace the blowers with better one that have metal grates to protect the blades. I just wanted the 2 small lasers back up and running.
282194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-06T15:06:03.1960000-05:00And with the warranty if either blower does, we can just take it back and swap it.
283189645236908064768themitch222017-05-06T15:08:11.9640000-05:00http://www.multicam.com/quantus-fiber-laser/
284189645236908064768themitch222017-05-06T15:08:34.6500000-05:00Probably well over $100k I'm guessing
285194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-06T15:16:25.4990000-05:00They should give us one
286194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-06T18:48:45.4290000-05:00Saur is back. Internet was unplugged
287194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-06T18:49:48.2390000-05:00Zing focuses fine. Not sure what to tell the person having issues
288300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-06T18:50:59.6160000-05:00Thank you Pearce!
289300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-10T16:50:02.0290000-05:00Replacement parts for the Zing are on their way, but please be on the look-out for a separate envelope that contains the screws to install the Guide Rails.  They forgot to include them in the shipment so they are in a separate one.
290300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-10T16:51:47.2510000-05:00The packages should be addressed to Luke
291194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-10T17:18:36.1770000-05:00I'm in desperate need of a software that will nest svgs, any idea?
292300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T10:57:08.7800000-05:00@gbeauw I thought you had already gotten set up with discord?
293300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-11T10:57:48.9870000-05:00Not on my phone apparently
294300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T10:57:57.2970000-05:00Ahh
295300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T10:58:35.7520000-05:00Have you downloaded the app?
296300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-11T10:59:20.7330000-05:00I'm good now
297300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T11:01:10.6180000-05:00Awesome
298308263307570315266kbraby61742017-05-11T11:49:16.0900000-05:00(Sorry for the late/long response) Re: run caps: a brushless motor can't create torque on single phase power without doing something to create a field out of phase. A capacitor has this funny behavior on AC that current leads voltage, so connecting one on a 3rd winding of an AC motor allows it to create torque by having current out of phase from the primary feed. Much smaller motors create the phase angle other ways like shaded pole that use a secondary winding to pick up power off part of the armature and deliver it to another area of the armature to create the phase angle. Capacitors as noise filters is primarily for DC brushed motors, where the make and break of the brushes on the commutator creates voltage spikes that the capacitors pass through back to the motor.
299194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T18:39:23.0960000-05:00Pew pew tools are inhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/312373152195805184/JPEG_20170511_183908.jpg?ex=67b9b76b&is=67b865eb&hm=c0fa75a8a3b07e8fd8a6e308ef6b755b7ba0bc014798d192c70c0720c93e8019&
300300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T18:50:13.6500000-05:00Nice! That was fast. Were you going to install?
301194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T18:55:35.6460000-05:00I can
302194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T18:55:49.0480000-05:00The rails don't actually look the same as what we have
303194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T18:56:35.4460000-05:00Why did we get new ones actually?
304194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T18:56:50.6130000-05:00They look finehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/312377545800548352/JPEG_20170511_185642.jpg?ex=67b9bb82&is=67b86a02&hm=b3614ca07a08812b0d95548a9d0760020715e89416d72649154f4ddfad87e0b9&
305194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T18:58:15.6160000-05:00I'm not going to do the rails. They are all fine as is. I'll let Beau do them
306300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T19:00:49.7070000-05:00Sounds good. I think he said they had been damaged or something where replacement would be best
307300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T19:01:48.9720000-05:00If you'll just store them up on the shelf where Beau can find them that will work
308300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T19:02:11.1830000-05:00It's not letting me tag him for some reason
309194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T19:20:47.7880000-05:00They are under the zing table @gbeauw
310194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T20:41:52.2090000-05:00What are the sizes that we got quoted for the smaller thunder lasers?
311194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T20:42:04.5960000-05:00Did we get a quote on a new zing as well.
312194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T20:42:47.7440000-05:00I spoke for the committee at the membership meeting
313300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T20:43:14.7790000-05:00Thanks Pearce
314300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T20:43:59.2490000-05:00Luke got a quote for 2 Nova 35 lasers
315300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T20:45:48.9690000-05:002'x3' bed
316300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T20:46:24.2460000-05:00~$14,000 shipping included
317300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T20:47:33.2620000-05:00Don't know of a quote for a new zing
318300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T20:56:43.4790000-05:00Does the committee want to meet to decide on getting new thunders to replace the saur, or just talk here?
319194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T20:57:35.6700000-05:00I'm sure people would want a meeting for it
320300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T21:09:52.4260000-05:00What about meeting next thursday evening?
321300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-11T23:19:17.9800000-05:00Anything exciting happen at the member meeting?
322194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-11T23:25:05.2740000-05:00Nope
323300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-12T12:46:26.0340000-05:00Anyone good with a meeting next Thursday? Will go over potential new equipment purchases and will process payments in the box
324300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-12T16:00:16.5540000-05:00The Zing Rails were worn and the graduations getting hard to read plus they were loose. I'll install the lens and rail this weekend.
325300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-12T16:48:00.4480000-05:00Had a good call with Zing TS about focus. Have focus setup procedure. What we need for that is some anodized aluminum as a test material. Anyone have any?
326194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-12T16:59:25.1150000-05:00I'm sure someone could find an old Mac book
327300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-12T18:25:41.1450000-05:00Did any one find the envelop with the screws from Zing? They were sent separately.
328194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-12T18:36:21.9370000-05:00Wasn't on the table
329194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-12T18:36:34.8630000-05:00Might be in the mail box?
330300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-12T18:54:02.5510000-05:00Hmm no idea how often the mail is checked or by who... Anyone know?
331300077286840074241tomthm99002017-05-13T10:30:08.7790000-05:00Anyone at DMS right now. I have a Laser class starting now, and am still in Denton car trouble. I need to get word to the Purple Classroom that I can't make it
332300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-13T10:34:56.8330000-05:00Not at the space but I'll post to Talk to get the word out
333300077286840074241tomthm99002017-05-13T10:35:46.3590000-05:00Didn't even think of Talk. Sheesh. Thank you.
334300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-13T10:36:20.1880000-05:00Yw! Sorry about the car trouble, hope you arent stranded somewhere!!
335300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-13T12:47:55.1390000-05:00Gonna grab some lunch then head to DMS to work on the Zing.
336300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-13T15:39:10.5400000-05:00Zing is still not focusing. Focus probe is wrong length. Material should be 2" from bottom of lens but when set to 2", probe is 1/4" too high.
337300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-13T15:41:08.2580000-05:00Experimentation confirms the 2" distance. Sent email to Epilog TS asking why brand new probe is wrong length.
338300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-13T15:42:58.5700000-05:00No adjustment on the probe appears to be capable of adding the necessary 1/4".
339300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-13T15:43:49.9780000-05:00They also sent wrong rails. I have them and will arrange their return for correct rails.
340300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-05-14T18:40:46.6260000-05:00not a particularly good deal but we may want to monitor the sale http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epilog-Helix-Model-8000-CO2-45-watt-Laser-Engraving-Machine-/272459659297?hash=item3f6fdc7821:g:W~gAAOSwo4pYNNmZ
341309079425679360000raymond0119052017-05-15T09:10:34.9190000-05:00Ken, that one needs a controller board... and it seems it has already had one fail so it may have another undiagnosed issue.
342300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T14:53:38.7990000-05:00I discussed that Helix Model 8000 with Epilog TS. They said there are two reason for a Controller Board Failure. 1) Unplugging Rotary Attachment with power still on the unit [BIG NO-NO]. 2) Dirty AC Power or Power Surges can cause premature failure of Controller Board. That's about all that can cause this according to them.
343300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T14:54:53.7920000-05:00Epilog TS is sending me replacement rails so we have the correct rails for the Honeycomb Box. (I'm to return the others at no charge in the same box.) They are also sending another Focus Probe.
344300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T14:57:49.8570000-05:00It seems that there is a trick to adjusting the Focus Probe that requires really strong fingers to grab and unscrew the 4-40 threaded rod from the spring to adjust its length. Either that, one must use Needle-Nose pliers very carefully so as to not damage threads.
345300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T14:59:15.7010000-05:00When the Rails of FP comes in, I'll install and adjust the length of the FP so that we can set the focus length (lens-to-material) to 2" using the FP.
346300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-16T15:04:55.6740000-05:00Thanks Beau. I'll be at the space tomorrow night and can check for deliveries
347300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:05:33.9750000-05:00I had them send it to my home address to avoid any possibilities of misplacement of mail.
348300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-16T15:05:48.9230000-05:00Ahh ok
349300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:06:59.1940000-05:00However, you can be on the lookout for the envelope of screws as well as the supposedly sent piece of anodized aluminum to use as a Focus test piece.
350300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:07:15.6470000-05:00Not sure the later was "really" ever sent but we'll see.
351300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-16T15:08:29.7120000-05:00Ok, will let you know what I find
352300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:09:19.6580000-05:00Did you see my note on the Epilog Helix 8000 Laser that some folks were considering?
353300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:10:34.4070000-05:00There were concerns about the Controller Boards having cronic failures but I think I identified the root causes of failures. That may mean it is worth considering. Controller board is $650 according to Epilog TS.
354300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-16T15:26:44.1500000-05:00Price seems pretty steep for a small used laser. We recently got quotes for new thunder lasers that I want to discuss at a meeting.
355300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-16T15:27:33.0470000-05:00Thursday was a problem so I want to suggest to meet next Tuesday or Wednesday evening.
356300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:28:23.4160000-05:00OK. I was just passing on what I learned in case we were interested.
357300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-16T15:28:39.4850000-05:00Thank you for getting more info
358300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:37:06.9870000-05:00@Raymond See my post about why that board fails. May be due to mishandling or bad power.
359300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:39:15.7500000-05:00FWIW, Epilog no longer makes the 45Watt. It is the 40Watt for $18,000 or 50Watt for $19,500 new so that actually might be a good price depending on the current laser power output.
360300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:40:29.2940000-05:00Not saying we "should" consider it. Just saying . . .
361300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-16T15:56:44.6170000-05:00The screws did come in. The padded brown envelope was placed next to the Zing.
362300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-16T15:57:06.9600000-05:00Thanks, Stan.
363309079425679360000raymond0119052017-05-16T15:58:51.5930000-05:00Thanks Beau
364194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-17T02:36:27.8550000-05:00Thunder has the wiggles. But only on one side of my curvehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/314305152465108992/JPEG_20170517_023535.jpg?ex=67b97e7b&is=67b82cfb&hm=b5a308052704bae7e454ff73bb5fc838f9c0c3c98b1d38c1028e19ae919750e1&
365300233722001752065gbeauw2017-05-17T10:45:27.8380000-05:00Parts for Zing came today. I'll get them installed this weekend.👍 (1)
366300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-17T16:09:46.1200000-05:00@pearce. Frank showed me that he was having that issue a while back so he tightened up the lense holder and it seemed better
367300078993577607170merissa43082017-05-17T16:10:01.9540000-05:00Is there something else going on we need to look into?
368194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-17T17:45:10.7020000-05:00I'm not sure. I just slowed it down
369194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-01T22:54:48.3500000-05:00Man I would love for the blowers to be quieter. We should try to move them up into the ceiling
370194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-02T09:54:37.3840000-05:00Does the laser class still not teach that you don't have to download each and every file to the thunder? It would easily solve the frequent "file won't download" issue
371189645236908064768themitch222017-06-02T18:03:18.2000000-05:00Full spectrum Muse does the picture scanning thing that glowforged does
372189645236908064768themitch222017-06-02T18:03:36.0850000-05:00Might be a decent 45w laser in addition to the zing
373303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-06-03T10:06:55.3410000-05:00random question: is the tube in Thunder in good enough shape to cut 1/2" baltic birch plywood right now?
374194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-03T12:14:58.1140000-05:00You'll probably have to lower your focus to the center of the wood
375194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-03T12:15:07.0720000-05:00I'd do a test first
376194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-05T17:59:23.7920000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/321422784591036417/JPEG_20170605_175920.jpg?ex=67b9ae0b&is=67b85c8b&hm=bd340cc386bf5cde456cfc2b1b116f32fde9bc454f0b4d819e82b2731622c193&
377194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-05T18:00:29.0780000-05:00Someone put a fuck ton of polycarbonate that said "fiber glass" on the stickers
378194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-05T18:00:51.0490000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/321423151407955968/JPEG_20170605_180047.jpg?ex=67b9ae63&is=67b85ce3&hm=1d0848d800fc81ecbf233fd04fc3b8848c69f38aa370223fcf9992ae1860d826&
379300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-18T15:04:38.4440000-05:00Laser Committee meeting next Saturday at 3pm! Hope to see a bunch of folks there!
380304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-06-19T15:21:25.5510000-05:00What is the bed size on the thunder ?
381109359055532732416clone10182017-06-19T15:23:13.1010000-05:00Wiki says 1600mm x 1000m (63” x 39.4”x 9.8”)👍 (2)
382300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T22:35:58.7550000-05:00Hey folks, don't forget the meeting Saturday!
383109359055532732416clone10182017-06-22T22:58:35.8640000-05:00@merissa I'm sorry I forgot to stop by tonight!
384300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T22:59:10.1630000-05:00No worries!! I had to work kind of late and didn't make it either
385300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T22:59:34.0980000-05:00Will be up tomorrow night and Saturday though
386194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-22T22:59:37.4990000-05:00lasers are lasering. all is well in the white noise laden area we call home
387300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T23:00:06.4960000-05:00wohoo
388109359055532732416clone10182017-06-22T23:02:06.5150000-05:00Yeah I'm unavailable until next week however I got approval from TLAR in Auto to put the RoboReel wherever, Just incase its next to the autoshelf or something
389300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T23:02:50.3120000-05:00good deal 😃 thank you for coordinating!
390300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T23:04:30.9910000-05:00I'll take a look at things to see if any particular spot looks best and mark it or send you a PM on talk
391109359055532732416clone10182017-06-22T23:05:25.1170000-05:00Awesome thanks
392109359055532732416clone10182017-06-22T23:05:49.1380000-05:00Just so you know air will be two phase, I'll install the mounting bracket but I'll need help figuring out the air so it'll take a bit longer
393300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T23:09:09.7060000-05:00Ok, I might be able to get Brandon to assist if it'd be helpful
394300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-22T23:09:47.4400000-05:00But no big rush, I understand there's the logistics to sort out 😉
395300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-06-23T20:00:05.3220000-05:00Tom doesn't care for the RoboReels, he would like one of the old style air reels mounted on the lift, on the upright that can service both bays. This will require relocating airlines.
396109359055532732416clone10182017-06-23T21:10:49.8270000-05:00Yeah that's what he told me. I asked him why he didn't like it and he said lack of pressure. Trying to figure that one out now
397109359055532732416clone10182017-06-23T21:11:03.3640000-05:00He doesn't mind them being mounted though
398303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-06-23T21:21:22.7610000-05:00That's a totally legit thought... but like I was saying last night, he needs flow, not pressure. Particularly for the pneumatic impacts that you use in an autoshop
399303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-06-23T21:21:57.3530000-05:00pressure is related, but not the be-all-end-all
400303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-06-23T21:22:30.9620000-05:00If Tom can feed a 1/2" rubber line off a 1 or 1.5" main, he'd have enough air to run the big boy toys
401303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-06-23T21:22:45.6100000-05:00or a 5/8" rubber line
402326139831967154176jupiterscomet2017-06-24T12:47:00.0220000-05:00I thought i saw a laser basics class scheduled for today. Was it cancelled or did i read the calendar wrong?
403300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-24T12:48:18.5900000-05:00Hmm yeah, I saw it show up on the calendar for 2:30 today but now it's gone
404300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-24T12:48:27.4600000-05:00Were you signed up to take it?
405326139831967154176jupiterscomet2017-06-24T12:49:31.8910000-05:00There weren't any spots. Was going to try to 'fly standyby'
406300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-24T12:51:35.3070000-05:00Ahh gotcha :(
407300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-24T12:54:10.5930000-05:00I'm not sure if the teacher (think it was Tom) had to cancel. I scheduled a committee meeting for 3pm which may have influenced things, so if it did I'm sorry about that.
408300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-24T12:54:46.3740000-05:00The meeting will be at 3 in the conference room though so we don't tie up the laser area
409326139831967154176jupiterscomet2017-06-24T12:59:44.8200000-05:00Yeah it was Tom. I'll just catch the next one. Thanks!👍 (1)
410300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-06-25T13:59:15.9240000-05:00Tom had cancelled the class and emailed everyone that was registered.
411300077286840074241tomthm99002017-06-25T15:42:38.8370000-05:00Thanks Stan. I missed your message Merissa.
412210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-06-26T15:33:05.8900000-05:00FedEX 690438255917 for the Lasersaur emergency stop button. Should be there tomorrow.
413109359055532732416clone10182017-06-27T18:39:57.1990000-05:00@lukeiamyourfather for the record your package arrived and someone put it on the saur
414109359055532732416clone10182017-06-29T20:53:53.9760000-05:00@lukeiamyourfather You there working on it tonight? Need any help?
415210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-06-29T20:54:28.0400000-05:00I'm here
416210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-06-29T20:54:42.8510000-05:00@clone1018 join if you want
417210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-06-29T20:54:50.1920000-05:00Just got here
418210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-06-29T21:00:22.8840000-05:00@LukeStrickland about to start 😀
419300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-29T21:03:45.2780000-05:00Luke helping Luke, love it!! 😄
420194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-29T21:45:49.4690000-05:00Damned clones😂 (1)
421207961619538378762denzuko2017-06-30T11:55:03.8300000-05:00random question but is anodized steel or anodized aluminum save to use with the lasers?
422300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-30T11:57:53.5810000-05:00The lasers cant cut/etch metal. You'd have to use something like ceramark on top of the metal and laser onto that
423300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-30T12:00:12.6750000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/330392089223495683/20170630_115940.jpg?ex=67b959dc&is=67b8085c&hm=26b6eb44429a2fc91a73c7e86926bbcd1655795d8fc41fdb8636045f39072776&
424300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-30T12:00:28.6640000-05:00Would give you an effect like the writing on this
425207961619538378762denzuko2017-06-30T12:00:48.8780000-05:00well the end goal is something like https://img0.etsystatic.com/178/0/13380382/il_570xN.1087702794_knec.jpg but with metal and acrylic infill but I guess ceremark might work if I can find the right white color
426207961619538378762denzuko2017-06-30T12:01:18.0220000-05:00only down side is the waste and costs
427300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-30T12:04:58.9460000-05:00Yes unfortunately the stuff isnt cheap, and you'll have some trial and error to make sure your laser settings are right
428207961619538378762denzuko2017-06-30T12:10:58.3180000-05:00guess I'll have to look into chemical etching then
429207961619538378762denzuko2017-06-30T12:11:08.2330000-05:00thanks @merissa
430306967333270716416brockelee2017-06-30T13:00:12.3800000-05:00You might look at drag bit etching on the Cnc. You could spray paint a metal sheet blue and then etch down to the raw metal. Alternatively if you want white and blue, get a blue coated white base acrylic signboard acrylic, then etch off the blue like mentioned before.
431306967333270716416brockelee2017-06-30T13:01:00.2740000-05:00I don't know a lot about the process, but that also looks like the experiments coming out of the screen printing folks recently.
432300078993577607170merissa43082017-06-30T13:04:01.0400000-05:00Maybe screen printing? That may be an awful suggestion, dont have much experience with it👌 (1)
433194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-30T13:09:51.4810000-05:00I think screen printing would be the way to go
434194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-30T13:10:09.0160000-05:00Just use a high mesh screen and thin ink
435109359055532732416clone10182017-06-30T18:23:56.2410000-05:00wont be able to help with the 'saur until saturday, tonight is 🍻
436300077286840074241tomthm99002017-07-07T11:56:44.5040000-05:00Sorry all. I guess I'm losing my marbles. I got ANOTHER class time mixed up and didnt show up to teach at 10:30 AM today. I'll send an email to those that were signed up.
437194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-13T00:12:19.8160000-05:00Why is there a brake rotor under the laser table
438109359055532732416clone10182017-07-13T08:25:54.5570000-05:00@pearce There were two brake rotors on the donation shelf yesterday
439300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-13T08:27:00.6790000-05:00:(
440300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-13T08:27:36.9970000-05:00Yet another issue with the returned freebie shelf
441300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-13T08:27:47.2150000-05:00Can someone snap a picture?
442300077286840074241tomthm99002017-07-13T08:28:36.3410000-05:00The is how The Trouble With Tribbles started.
443109359055532732416clone10182017-07-13T08:32:20.0990000-05:00I like the idea of food and brake pads right next to each other
444300233722001752065gbeauw2017-07-13T09:15:43.8550000-05:00<Voice:Homer Simpson> Mmmmm. Brake pads. [Drools] </Voice>
445300233722001752065gbeauw2017-07-13T09:17:04.4420000-05:00Left out tools and left over materials on the laser table. Constant problem. I guess some folks think that their Mother works at DMS.
446294269552705929216limeytx2017-07-13T11:49:39.9820000-05:00@LukeStrickland make that 3 brake rotors. I just went to get that photo for Merissa, noticed another on top
447294269552705929216limeytx2017-07-13T11:50:08.2220000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/335100597122498560/JPEG_20170713_115002.jpg?ex=67b95780&is=67b80600&hm=9621b636b5079d84d5d5a3ee5ce4cabd9023bbea767cee381a1b43224e2b0d29&
448300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-13T11:51:01.6940000-05:00Thanks Mark! Did you see if there are there still any in the laser area?
449194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-13T11:57:16.9140000-05:00I put the 3rd one on there from the laser table along with a bunch of other shit people left under there
450194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-13T11:59:24.5590000-05:00Also it looked like a new rotor?
451109359055532732416clone10182017-07-13T11:59:43.5600000-05:00I'd bet they fit a Toyota Prius
452300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-13T12:07:00.6340000-05:00I always struggle with do we put random abandoned crap on the lost and found shelf or on the freebie shelf where it likely came from. If it's stuff just from people not cleaning up after themselves I toss it, but other stuff I put it on the lost and found shelf
453294269552705929216limeytx2017-07-13T12:39:56.9570000-05:00Can't see anymore around laser
454300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-13T12:41:12.0580000-05:00Awesome, appreciate it Mark :) sounds like Pearce got it all handled
455333297925851578379pseudonym012017-07-17T18:45:05.2660000-05:00If I came in with a design on Thursday night, would anyone mind looking over my shoulder to ensure I don't set anything on fire?
456294269552705929216limeytx2017-07-22T20:55:50.0420000-05:00Communication Error... what's the fox for that again?
457294269552705929216limeytx2017-07-22T20:58:56.0810000-05:00Fox? Fix
458109359055532732416clone10182017-07-24T21:02:14.9420000-05:00Can someone whos trained on any of the lasers help me cut something for logistics :D?
459304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-25T00:21:10.7670000-05:00Any time
460194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-30T22:56:52.2850000-05:00Re leveled the bed on the zing.
461300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-31T08:30:22.2680000-05:00Awesome. Thanks Pearce
462300233722001752065gbeauw2017-07-31T10:09:22.2040000-05:00@Pearce, So was one corner lower than the others?
463194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-31T11:17:56.5690000-05:00Very and causing the table to bind up
464300233722001752065gbeauw2017-07-31T12:22:52.1860000-05:00Did you get adjustment instructions from Epilog TS or just figure out what needed to be tweaked?
465194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-31T12:27:39.1800000-05:00I leveled it like a CNC machine
466194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-31T12:27:53.4320000-05:00It was also midnight
467194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-31T12:30:08.9210000-05:00The way it was set, it was binding and making itself worse. The bottom platform is bent it seems. It also ate a ton of my acrylic
468300233722001752065gbeauw2017-07-31T13:25:02.4850000-05:00Ill get a quote for the bottom shelf that the matrix box sits on as well add info how to remove and replace.
469300233722001752065gbeauw2017-07-31T13:25:18.1780000-05:00as well as
470194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-01T00:07:27.0480000-05:00I'm pretty sure I left my Anker battery plugged into the laser pc
471194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-01T00:08:23.7040000-05:00Put it in my personal storage box if found please
472207961619538378762denzuko2017-08-01T00:08:29.8670000-05:00think its time to get some sleep. I just read that as ackbar battery
473194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-08T17:07:54.7990000-05:00Bottoming out the zing is the reason it's going unlevel. People have to stop this shit
474194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-08T17:18:42.3260000-05:00Hitting down until the bed makes a horrible grinding sound is not the correct way to lower the bed
475300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-08T17:21:35.3530000-05:00Eek :(
476109359055532732416clone10182017-08-08T20:53:12.4360000-05:00gotta hook up an embarrassing alarm 😃
477194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-08T20:56:08.9480000-05:00I'll just stand by it and yell at people
478194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-08T21:33:57.2910000-05:00Why has the zing decided to stop reading my pdfs correctly? They opened fine an hour ago
479194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T21:46:30.6110000-05:00Any idea what happened to the zing between 2am and 8pm tonight? It went from solid rasters to garbage for the same files
480194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T21:47:27.0500000-05:00Those are supposed to be lettershttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/345035387883749388/JPEG_20170809_214636.jpg?ex=67b93abe&is=67b7e93e&hm=81e0f778da5a9dd68b43841eb4218e15bb9fa349b2493be4fb2ee1c7ab10e6cd&
481300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-09T21:47:46.2700000-05:00I can review footage, but kind of hard to see what people are doing on the zing from the cam
482194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T21:51:02.0610000-05:00It sounds like the belt is off now
483194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T21:52:00.7790000-05:00The lense was loose
484194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T21:52:08.0800000-05:00How's that happen
485194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T21:53:41.1490000-05:00Top mirror*
486300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-09T22:12:25.1410000-05:00Disturbed by how many people I see not paying at the kiosk after laser time today
487300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-09T22:16:13.4920000-05:00Pearce it doesnt look like anyone used the zing after you
488194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T22:18:34.2330000-05:00Yeah after the mirror went back in it looks like that was an issue I was having yesterday too
489194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T22:18:41.0670000-05:00It was just worse today
490300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-09T22:18:47.7250000-05:00Ah ok
491194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T22:19:47.1490000-05:00I hate how much I have to fix the laser surgery before I want to use them
492300077286840074241tomthm99002017-08-09T22:20:18.3520000-05:00Is there a way to correlate (is that the right word?) logins at a laser PC with payments? Someone can login without actually cutting, but...
493194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T22:20:31.5120000-05:00No not like the printers
494194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-09T22:20:37.2560000-05:00Paper printers*
495300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-09T22:21:50.7950000-05:00Yeah think best we can do is review footage. Can see that if someone is just sitting at the computer or using the laser
496300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-10T13:02:02.6530000-05:00@pearce luke has thought of doing a laser maintenance class so more folks learn how to keep them running. Would you consider helping or doing some also? I know I need to learn more myself
497194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-10T14:59:40.9410000-05:00Sure. I'm not sure how far to go with it though. And I don't have a reliable schedule for a while
498300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-10T15:01:37.6980000-05:00Ok, thank you! I coerced Luke into looking at the lasersaur with me tonight, so I'll get more thoughts out of him about it
499300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-11T18:48:13.0710000-05:00FYI - the lasersaur is realigned and back in service!
500300078993577607170merissa43082017-08-12T20:02:24.3240000-05:00Can someone check the square kiosk in laser to see if it's working?
501194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-02T19:08:44.3860000-05:00Should really be cleaning up if you are cutting this much tiny shithttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/353692755760906241/JPEG_20170902_190816.jpg?ex=67b9be4c&is=67b86ccc&hm=f278103103417c0223ad5000d31212096bf3f63cb127232185b9de6138b9f2e6&
502300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-02T19:45:53.4800000-05:00:(
503194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-02T19:53:23.8240000-05:00That's a fire hazard
504194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-02T19:53:37.9040000-05:00Specifically how one of the makerspace fires started
505194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-02T19:53:43.0200000-05:00Not ours*
506194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-06T10:30:22.0700000-05:00We got a new laser tube?
507109359055532732416clone10182017-09-06T10:51:27.1720000-05:00yes
508109359055532732416clone10182017-09-06T10:51:35.0430000-05:00according to stan
509109359055532732416clone10182017-09-06T11:10:39.6500000-05:00@pearce does the box look like this ?
510109359055532732416clone10182017-09-06T11:10:41.6630000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/355022003121684491/0.png?ex=67b94e41&is=67b7fcc1&hm=c95efc8bbc146d53aa169df71bb323ce335411dc22e80abf070ae54fd082ecbc&
511300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-06T11:11:42.8120000-05:00That was fast! Yes we ordered a back up tube
512194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-06T11:12:11.6320000-05:00Holy shit that's probably not a good position for it
513194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-06T11:12:37.2620000-05:00Is that an spt tube for the thunder?
514194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-06T11:12:57.7370000-05:00We should test it's power soon in case we need to return it
515194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-06T11:13:03.2910000-05:00@lukeiamyourfather
516109359055532732416clone10182017-09-06T11:13:28.4160000-05:00I think Stan moved it inside
517109359055532732416clone10182017-09-06T11:13:43.8900000-05:00"FedEx dropped it off at the back door with no signature. I put it in the laser area."
518194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-06T11:13:58.1880000-05:00Wow that's an expensive drop off
519300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-06T11:14:03.5000000-05:00Can someone lay it down next to the saur?
520300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-06T17:36:08.4140000-05:00@lukeiamyourfather @pearce are yall free soon to check out the tube with me?
521300077286840074241tomthm99002017-09-10T17:37:35.1870000-05:00Sweet mother of pearl. The picture Pearce posted is many things, including frustrating, infuriating, and many more words ending in ing. Would it be futile or counter productive to post that very picture on a Wall of Shame, located in the laser area? If The Perp returns, they could see it every time. Y'all who've been here longer probably have heard of everything. Would that be effective, or would likely start a race to the top to get one's mess featured on the Wall of Shame?
522210224199149551617winters29142017-09-13T10:22:23.6640000-05:00@everyone i am asking if anyone would like to help me with an urgent project two friends of mine passed away on sunday during the plano shooting. i would like to make a simple engraved box for him so people can put notes and tokens in it. i would do it myself but i am currently helping his family with funeral arrangement. I will ofc pay anyone that would take on the project.(edited) Please @ me if you would like to take on this task. Thanks
523194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-14T15:49:14.3690000-05:00For teaching. This is not acceptable scrap. This is trashhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/357991204211916800/JPEG_20170914_154849.jpg?ex=67b98f8a&is=67b83e0a&hm=a7321d757dfc4df77e8a424e569d94db52b50d407727269f761952fdf3fc46a2&
524207961619538378762denzuko2017-09-14T16:34:27.7350000-05:00@Winters
525211492824380735488ironlilac2017-09-16T13:48:42.1920000-05:00Question, there's laser basics tomorrow at 2 anything we need to bring?
526240634037998190592jestersforge74942017-09-16T16:37:09.9940000-05:00i didnt bring anything when i took it last week
527211492824380735488ironlilac2017-09-16T16:44:22.1350000-05:00Okay just checking
528194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-18T17:49:45.6770000-05:00@merissa , @kimmie is bringing a video card up to upgrade the laser PC, can we get your approval to add it and have @StanSimmons run the driver updates for it?
529300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-18T17:54:02.6610000-05:00Yeah I'm good with that
530300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-18T17:54:17.5110000-05:00Thanks Kimmie!
531194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-09-18T20:40:45.1220000-05:00Done and updated👍 (1)
532300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-19T12:38:40.1630000-05:00New Thunder lasers have been ordered! I'll post here when I know an ETA💕 (1)
533274013487049474049samysuicide69182017-09-19T13:30:48.4460000-05:00Wooohooo!!!!
534334894469461704705davidmcalister12017-09-19T19:50:44.2680000-05:00Exciting!! What model was purchased?
535300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-19T19:53:25.8600000-05:00Nova35s, has a 2x3ft bed
536334894469461704705davidmcalister12017-09-19T20:13:21.6460000-05:00Oh cool, the baby nova's! Did we get another rotary? Or just share the old one?
537300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-19T20:17:35.7770000-05:00Will likely look to get another
538334894469461704705davidmcalister12017-09-19T20:32:28.6330000-05:00Alright, sounds good.
539300077286840074241tomthm99002017-09-26T21:12:39.6870000-05:00Is there an ETA on new laser cutters?
540300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-26T22:42:36.3230000-05:00Just got word that they'll be ready to ship out on Oct 9th. Waiting to hear confirmation of how long shipping will take.
541300078993577607170merissa43082017-09-26T22:46:35.9250000-05:00Coming from China takes a while though, so I appreciate everyone's patience as this is a slow process
542298257308591456256itsasolly2017-10-02T12:14:38.2700000-05:00Does anyone else get virus alerts with RDWorks? I uploaded it to Payload Security and it has very high confidence matching for malicious. https://www.hybrid-analysis.com/sample/cf3295ec4faab36e389a3c043aa5ca8d08a23e3d26fd03cc2aa87b9c4d39a55a?environmentId=100
543304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-10-02T23:36:47.4990000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/364631849189900288/image.jpg?ex=67b9545f&is=67b802df&hm=2a5800b41b536ce50823380bfbb1a61b392f490627d3c30dfde6385fc7ba2755&
544304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-10-02T23:36:48.8440000-05:00Gee the thunder is much smaller than I thought
545304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-10-02T23:37:00.1460000-05:00Laser parts in!
546300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-03T07:20:01.9820000-05:00Thanks, that would be replacement belts for the Nova 63
547104338202172592128hi.kim2017-10-17T21:46:03.6120000-05:00Hello! Do you know if we're getting new rotary attachments too? 😄
548194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:04:52.7660000-05:00@merissa howd the meeting go? i had previous plans and couldnt make it out
549300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:06:00.1340000-05:00Small turnout but good discussion! I'm working on meeting notes to post right now.
550300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:06:38.1890000-05:00Oh and yall are stuck with me for a bit longer! No one opposed me for the chair spot 😁
551194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:07:39.4730000-05:00no complaints
552194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:08:27.8470000-05:00if we can get the proper belt settings from thunderlaser id be willing to re do them with the new ones
553300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:09:00.3140000-05:00👍
554300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:09:20.8910000-05:00I'll email them tonight
555300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:09:22.7520000-05:00Sorry I missed the meeting. I didn't know about it. Was it announced here?
556300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:09:56.9400000-05:00Sorry, not sure if I posted it here, but was on the calendar and Talk
557300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:12:29.9450000-05:00I've been swamped with other stuff including transitioning to being retired. It would be helpful if you would post the notice here too.
558300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:13:07.6610000-05:00Then again you might have and I just missed it.
559194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:13:55.7050000-05:00i meant to pin all of the meetings but its been stupid busy for me the past few weeks
560300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:14:23.0580000-05:00Glad you Pearce and others having kept things going. Thanks. Hopefully my time will free up soon.
561300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:15:19.6730000-05:00I think I forgot to, my apologies :( Hard to keep up with multiple locations when things get busy.
562300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:15:42.8100000-05:00Happy retirement though! That's exciting
563300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:15:52.5710000-05:00Side note: My son joined DMS this week. He picks up his fob tomorrow.
564300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:16:57.2810000-05:00One of the big things I need to improve on is routine maintenance. I'll be posting more about plans for getting more people "trained" on maintenance and setting a maintenance schedule
565194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:18:24.8440000-05:00holy crap i got back from wasteland and came back to the thunder vent being 100% clogged
566194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:18:37.8970000-05:00can we buy a better shop vac for laser?
567300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:21:28.1090000-05:00How about the compressed air outlet for blasting out lasers. Did we ever greet that?
568300233722001752065gbeauw2017-10-18T22:21:56.5900000-05:00... get that
569300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:22:08.8040000-05:00Can we use others at the space for a bit?.. I know it wouldnt be too pricey, but I dont want to commit to more spending until we finish with all the new laser purchases (computers, blowers, etc etc)
570300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:22:30.4470000-05:00And can see where our balance is truly at
571194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:22:50.4730000-05:00im sure we could, id like to find the extensions on them. i have to crawl into the machine to get to the back
572300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:23:06.0120000-05:00Ah yeah
573300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:25:41.0840000-05:00Beau, I've talked with logistics and infrastructure in the air line and they've agreed to install it... I think the reel is in the electrical room, but not yet installed. Not sure what the hold up is. I'll inquire about it again
574300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-18T22:25:54.9870000-05:00*about the air line
575194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:26:24.9970000-05:00probably just volunteer time on that one
576194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-24T11:38:43.6190000-05:00Post on talk forum asking if the thunder rotary is currently working
577300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-24T11:48:16.4200000-05:00Thanks, replied.
578300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-24T11:48:54.1300000-05:00As an fyi to all, the rotary is still down as we wait for replacement parts to come in so repairs can be made
579189645236908064768themitch222017-10-24T19:33:51.7260000-05:00AFIK the motor driver is built into the rotary thing it the direction wasn't working so it only cuts one direction.
580194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-25T17:26:33.3890000-05:00Hooooly crap the saur PC is slow
581306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-10-25T20:41:56.0950000-05:00There's a package in the common room from Thunder laser
582300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-25T22:36:17.5060000-05:00Thank you. That's probably the parts for the rotary! I'll let John know so he can take a look
583300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-25T22:57:12.3230000-05:00@pearce Thunder sent me this link regarding replacing the belts and contact info for their tech person if we need more help
584300078993577607170merissa43082017-10-25T22:57:17.0610000-05:00http://www.thunderlaser.com/troubleshooting/how-to-replace-the-motor-and-adjust-the-belt-tension-of-the-motor.html
585194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-25T23:17:00.5100000-05:00K
586300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-01T10:24:22.9710000-05:00Laser area workday this Saturday, Nov 4th, starting at noon!
587300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-01T10:24:59.0180000-05:00Lots to do to get ready for the new lasers, so please come help
588109359055532732416clone10182017-11-01T17:13:56.1310000-05:00@merissa got uline shipment
589300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-01T17:21:24.3440000-05:00Also we need someone with a truck to help move the saur offsite
590300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-01T17:57:15.8010000-05:00Sorry @LukeStrickland for some reason your message just popped up. Thanks for letting me know! I wont be able to come up to the space tonight. Can it be put by the saur or somewhere out of the way for now?
591109359055532732416clone10182017-11-01T17:58:03.9710000-05:00Is it fine under the gantry or do you want it in laser? I'm fine keeping it where it is lol
592109359055532732416clone10182017-11-01T17:58:12.7920000-05:00Aka under the gantry
593300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-01T17:58:32.8840000-05:00That works! Just didnt want it to be a problem
594300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T16:59:14.5250000-05:00Reminder! Laser workday tomorrow starting at noon. Wear something you dont mind getting dirty!
595194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:01:55.9950000-05:00I cleaned out the thunder the other night
596300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:02:30.5980000-05:00Awesome, thanks!
597300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:02:59.4300000-05:00Should we wear our HazMat Suits. 😉
598300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:03:46.7500000-05:00Funds are looking good so probably going to pick up a new shop vac. @pearce think one of like kind to the others around the space would be best?
599194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:04:12.9040000-05:00Just something bigger than the dinky one
600300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:04:20.0620000-05:00Cool
601300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:04:38.3180000-05:00Haha couldnt hurt @gbeauw ;)
602194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:05:05.0410000-05:00New blowers going in/on the roof?
603300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:05:06.7250000-05:00So exactly what new lasers are we installing and which ones are going away (if any).
604194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:05:22.8960000-05:00New smaller thunders
605194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:05:28.6160000-05:00Saur leaving
606194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:05:37.6140000-05:00Merissa typing book
607300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:05:43.9020000-05:00Lasersaur out, two Thunder Nova 35s in its place
608300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:06:03.0220000-05:00Never been too happy with saur. I guess I should look up Nova 35's on web.
609300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:06:04.7860000-05:00Merissa type slow on phone 😋
610300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:06:43.6410000-05:00ha ha ha. The text-to-speech function uses some strange words to describe Emogies
611300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:06:51.0770000-05:00The new thunders should arrive late next week, we'll be prepping the space ahead of their arrival tomorrow
612300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:08:28.8920000-05:00Ok. As it stands now, I should be able to make it.
613300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:11:52.5990000-05:00Awesome!
614300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:12:18.2940000-05:00Pearce we're also going to try and fix the relay on the current thunder to operate the blower
615194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-03T17:17:00.4530000-05:00Awesome
616300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:29:13.5650000-05:00So do we have room to put two Nova 35's where the LaserSaur is now? If not, do we have a tentative arrangement figured out?
617300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:30:05.8000000-05:00Yes they will fit, desk will be behind, got the floor plan worked out and measured
618300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:30:49.1460000-05:00So we have two new PC's for them I guess. (Or old saur PC plus one more.)
619300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:30:55.2050000-05:00It might be a little tight, but I think the way we're planning is the best use of space
620300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:31:13.0170000-05:00Yes :) new computers will be installed tomorrow
621300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:31:51.7070000-05:00OK. Great. Now I'm sorry I didn't make the last meeting. Guess I would have been up to speed on this if I had.
622300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:32:24.5830000-05:00Hopefully you can announce meetings here. I don't get on Talk unless I need to post something or search for something.
623300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:33:10.1460000-05:00Hah it's no problem :) appreciate people asking, helps me not forget things
624300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:33:32.6100000-05:00I'll try to be better in the future so everyone is in the know
625300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:33:36.8680000-05:00Forget what? I forgot what we are talking about. 😉
626300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:33:46.5110000-05:00Haha
627300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:34:04.3440000-05:00But I have an excuss. I'm Officially an Old Fart now. 😃
628300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:34:27.7730000-05:00Would it help if I like to talk posts here, or do you just prefer not to use talk?
629300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:34:39.7160000-05:00Sorry, meant link to talk
630300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:35:40.2710000-05:00I use Discord to keep up with what's happening on Lasers. Sends me alerts if there is a problem. Do you think depending on Discord is a problem?
631300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:36:39.3080000-05:00No not at all. Just sometimes it slips my mind to post on both. Trying better now though!
632300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-03T17:37:01.5370000-05:00OK. That's fine. See you tomorrow.
633300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-03T17:37:34.5510000-05:00Yes see you then! 😀
634194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-09T20:31:27.8860000-06:00Do we have the blower for the zing? I could get it hooked up and the PC moved so people can use it
635300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-09T20:34:57.6890000-06:00We plan to get it back online on saturday
636300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-09T20:35:56.8750000-06:00It's going to be connected to one of the computers on the back wall that needs to be added to the domain
637300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-13T11:01:46.6160000-06:00Melissa would you please call me asap about Zing problem?
638300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-13T11:03:36.5620000-06:00@merissa my number is 972-679-4334
639300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T11:07:07.4970000-06:00I'm sorry I'm in and out of work meetings all day
640300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T11:08:07.5710000-06:00Brandon looked at it more last night and thinks its an interlock issue for the door or the blower, but both of which are functioning fine
641300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T11:08:34.4550000-06:00I wont be freed up to call for another hour or so
642194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:19:34.8520000-06:00The current blower setup is pumping smoke from the thunder into the zing.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379772311340843029/JPEG_20171113_171906.jpg?ex=67b9b2c6&is=67b86146&hm=f44792c9b4cc57c2244897749c2576808d405589b75d1dabd8f65360955b3b3f&
643300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:21:43.4710000-06:00Good lord...
644194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:21:49.2780000-06:00Where's the zing PC to test?
645300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:22:01.9350000-06:00Left one on the wall
646194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:22:27.3440000-06:00The job manager isn't installed?
647300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:23:00.5440000-06:00We installed the print driver and it sent jobs
648300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-13T17:23:06.5010000-06:00Can one of you post a picture of the proposed new floor plan?
649194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:23:29.6180000-06:00Oh we need the job manager too. Its actually useful for the zing
650300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:23:39.9100000-06:00Ok we can do that
651194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:23:46.8020000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379773368095997972/JPEG_20171113_172339.jpg?ex=67b9b3c2&is=67b86242&hm=c94dd02bdb3e86610e3c105c86372042e9d78ade60eb01d4bfdf37c8e898de8d&
652300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:24:58.4410000-06:00Brandon said there's a backdraft preventer, how much smoke is leaking through?
653300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:26:19.0550000-06:00Turn on zing blower for now if it's excessive?
654194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:26:51.6520000-06:00It's enough to smell from the zing but not see
655300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:28:17.9240000-06:00Any proposed solutions?
656194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:28:24.2510000-06:00Standing PC wall looks good. Much better than the towers
657194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:29:07.7910000-06:00I'm not a vent guy. I'm going to talk to Tim about it. I just turned on the zing blower so I could work on it
658300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:29:26.0060000-06:00Ok sounds good
659194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:32:24.3350000-06:00Did we toss the old toggle boxes? I think this one is just wired wrong
660300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:33:45.7430000-06:00Trying to get Brandon in here to discuss... Stuff is probably getting lost in translation with me
661194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:33:58.1880000-06:00Wrong- has the wrong ends for me to test the trigger box with
662334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:34:23.8230000-06:00I may have completly failed and wasted money on the backdraft preventer setup with shared vent, failed to anticipate the pressure in column and leakage of backdraft preventers. Anyone want to get a quote for remote mounted exhaust that does 2000 cfm @ 4 in wc?
663194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:35:15.5420000-06:00Just noticed the blue tape could be leaking too. May have been that blowing at the zing and causing the smell
664194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:35:54.4220000-06:00Old zing toggle box is currently on the thunder.
665300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:35:55.1080000-06:00So yeah, let's not say it's failed yet till we give the completed design a try
666194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:36:29.0250000-06:00Right
667300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:36:29.4500000-06:00Brandon where did thunder toggle switch go?
668334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:36:40.1440000-06:00there is a backdraft preventer directly behind blue tape, you can feel air leaking past which is why I put tape on. Didn't know if leakage all the way back through blower and ducting into other lasers would be noticeable or not
669194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:39:26.0490000-06:00Part of the issuehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379777307583184897/JPEG_20171113_173914.jpg?ex=67b9b76e&is=67b865ee&hm=dabd2fb45315ea8b4eccc7427e8172244d18a484cd8df3ea2b920b6b782a7218&
670334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:39:26.4590000-06:00I rewired the zing toggle box and put it on thunder because it was first switch in pile I saw and needed a switch to control thunder blower since the auto on/off wasnt working reliably
671194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:40:47.3430000-06:00The current relay box is missing a plug for it, I think that's the issue
672194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:41:25.1820000-06:00Is the zing blower 110v?
673334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:41:41.2060000-06:00yeah
674194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:42:21.0200000-06:00K
675334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:42:21.5190000-06:00the switch needed for the zing grey relay box is not normal, it needs to short the hot and neutral lines
676194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:43:13.5460000-06:00I just need the ends to fit into Kevin's control box
677194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:43:39.8000000-06:00Definitely smell burning leather from the elbow joint going directly into the zing
678334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:43:41.4360000-06:00there are extra c13/c14 cables in bottom of tan /grey/plastic tub
679194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:45:36.4440000-06:00I was going for not having to rewire, high voltage experiments are not my thing when it connects to machines I don't own
680334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:46:17.6650000-06:00I can work on it later, but its not clear that the exhaust approach I created will work
681300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:46:28.4810000-06:00Does a higher quality backdraft preventer exist?
682334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:46:34.1630000-06:00there will be leaking noxious fumes back into the space through the backdraft preventers
683194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:46:37.6240000-06:00I like this split, but it means we can't have different pressures for each machinehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379779117307920384/JPEG_20171113_174610.jpg?ex=67b9b91d&is=67b8679d&hm=77972f1eaf4739cd0e1e98dda069b7bef5855944403aaada0095045189900e59&
684334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:47:35.3510000-06:00can switch to regulator per line
685194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:48:04.2410000-06:00Can you do that after the universal fitting? That's cool
686334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:48:36.2350000-06:00yeah the lines can handle shop air pressure, can put regulator on either side
687334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:48:42.4840000-06:00there are different brands of backdraft preventers, but all would have the same issue
688194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T17:49:35.1330000-06:00We could try wrapping the rest of the elbow in tape but that doesn't stop it from coming out the zing vent
689334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:50:55.0070000-06:00http://www.hoodfilters.com/2200-cfm-high-speed-direct-drive-upblast-exhaust-fan-with-15-75-wheel-75-hp-115-v.html
690334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:51:33.2790000-06:00but it says only 0.5" wc
691334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:52:19.7910000-06:00Short of completly different remote exhaust, have to go back to only a single blower per roof penetration / vent
692334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:52:42.0810000-06:00question is then how to duct 4 lasers with 2 blowers, where 3 are next to each other and 1 is 15 feet away
693334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:57:34.1590000-06:00Right now its unsafe to use thunder without zing blower also going. Will need to disconnect and block off 8" duct past where thunder is connecting and zing will down for rest of the week
694300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:58:16.5230000-06:00Can they be set to operate at the same time?
695300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T17:58:35.9150000-06:00The blowers
696334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T17:59:23.1530000-06:00Could do that yeah, control them both off the one switch on thunder
697300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T18:00:30.0770000-06:00Would like to safely have as many lasers in operation as possible so members arent waiting for things to get back up and running
698334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:01:40.0570000-06:00Could also do that long term, instead of redoing exhaust approach, have it so that when any one laser is on all 3 blowers are going
699334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:02:07.8880000-06:00if any blower didn't turn on exhaust would backflow through it
700300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T18:02:18.1330000-06:00Can we minimize blowers too? How much can one blower handle?
701334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:02:38.3760000-06:00one 2hp HF blower can exhaust 2 lasers
702300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T18:03:32.2080000-06:00So not ideal, but can we vent the zing over to the second nova 35
703300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T18:03:57.7020000-06:00Basically going back to it was with the saur
704334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:04:21.8130000-06:00yeah thats what I was thinking if we go back to one blower per roof vent
705300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T18:05:38.5050000-06:00Let's gets some thoughts from Tim first though
706300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T18:06:00.1520000-06:00He might have thoughts on how to make this exhaust system work
707194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T18:07:05.0700000-06:00@AGr did you rewire the zing switch that got moved to the thunder ?
708334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:07:34.2700000-06:00yes, it can only be used on thunder right now
709194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T18:07:42.2060000-06:00Damn
710194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T18:08:28.7650000-06:00It was set up to be one wire going in correct?
711334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:09:02.3390000-06:00yes, zing switch needs single wire where switch connects black and white wires
712306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-11-13T18:18:32.7850000-06:00You can get inline regulators that are supper small, we had them that fit pneumatic air tools. they were adjustables or presets.
713194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T18:29:13.8600000-06:00Ok I got the switch going
714194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T18:29:35.2520000-06:00Now I just need to get the blower plugged into the box. Interlock lights are on
715194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T18:46:23.5760000-06:00And we're back online😍 (1)
716334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T18:54:45.9620000-06:00could splice together a cord, there are wire nuts in one of the cardboard boxes on table, putting splice inside some kind of box
717194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T19:28:37.6900000-06:00Yeah I ended up making a cable so I didn't have to cut the end off the blower plug
718300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T20:18:21.0630000-06:00@pearce do you know if that fixed the homing issue too?
719194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T20:32:02.7790000-06:00I would assume so, it started a cut for me and did it where I set the xy to
720194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T20:32:19.4400000-06:00Not sure what the issue was
721300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T20:41:25.3230000-06:00Awesome. Thank you!!
722300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T20:42:34.4750000-06:00@gbeauw it sounds like all is well now with the Zing. Thank you for calling Epilog and helping troubleshoot
723300233722001752065gbeauw2017-11-13T20:44:40.6570000-06:00Ok. Thanks to Pearce for all the great effort.
724334393967015755776agr00902017-11-13T23:19:29.5150000-06:00My next idea is attempt to run all 3 (nova 63, nova 35, zing) off a single 2hp hf blower going out the 8" vent. Its overrated manufacturer claim is 1500 cfm Each laser would have marginally acceptable airflow, but 100% of the air would be sent outside instead of the 3 blowers w/ backdraft preventers approach where it turns out some percentage of air gets blown to inside the space. Running 3 off 1 avoids having to run 20' of 4" duct (basically same as what the zing and saur shared previously). The Nova 35 not in the cluster would have its own blower going out the 6" duct. Could add automatic electric dampers (would be on suction side, so leaks would be space air entering vacuum) if expect only one of the 3 lasers to be firing at a time typically. Looking at other blowers rated in the 1500-2500 cfm range, looks like thye are all 240 volt, which I think we have had issues with in the past running on our 208 volts.
725194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T23:31:04.4630000-06:00We have 4 lasers now though
726194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T23:31:12.2970000-06:00And 2 roof holes
727194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T23:31:48.4160000-06:00Oh I missed the odd one out
728194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T23:33:08.8500000-06:00If anything id think the bigger one should be on its own, because it has more to pull. And marginal means there's going to be more soot left inside the machines
729300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T23:33:41.2830000-06:00Bad thing is the big one is in the middle
730300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T23:33:57.5990000-06:00Argh...
731194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-13T23:34:15.6520000-06:00Could we use electric gates like the wood shop was looking into? And just have them open when the switch is turned on?
732334393967015755776agr00902017-11-14T00:05:06.5530000-06:00yeah we can, they are around $100 each for a normal duct style powered damper, https://www.amazon.com/Acme-Miami-95006-Motorized-Damper/dp/B005279G1K
733334393967015755776agr00902017-11-14T00:09:43.6360000-06:00Can always fall back on running the zing and nova 35 left on a blower (w/ 20' of 4" duct) if the 3 lasers with 1 blower doesn't provide enough airflow. But that would still be a single blower for both nova 63 and a nova 35.
734194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-14T00:21:32.0290000-06:00the e-gates may be the way to go to prevent the blowers from losing suction
735334393967015755776agr00902017-11-14T12:44:32.6120000-06:00Here are the laser counter pcs as they were configured on dell site: Dell Precision 3420 7th gen i5 7500 Win 10 Pro 240W power supply FirePro W4100 8GB DDR4 Non-ECC 128GB SSD $934
736334393967015755776agr00902017-11-14T13:00:08.7690000-06:00Short of getting a AC company quote for a roof top mounted 3,000 cfm @ 2-4" wc exhaust system, floor mounted dust collector type blowers are going to be loud. Could go up to a 3hp 240v 2300cfm single blower to exhaust 3 lasers w/ 1 blower, but would be getting nearly as loud as woodshop.
737334393967015755776agr00902017-11-14T13:00:29.0470000-06:00Current 2hp hf blower is 70-75 db
738194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-16T16:39:51.6380000-06:00Please don't use excessive force to tighten the mirrors into the laser mounts. We have to be able to remove them
739300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-20T11:02:27.1640000-06:00Laser exhaust system was revised last night to address concerns about backdrafting. There's a common blower now so the lasers share the inlet side rather than the exhaust side of ducting
740300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-20T11:02:56.3130000-06:00Doesn't change anything procedurally for users
741334393967015755776agr00902017-11-20T15:08:46.8450000-06:00An electric blast gate to block exhausting zing is on order to increase airflow through thunder when zing is not in usehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/382276108957122560/3094653865666991653253Faccount_id253D0.png?ex=67b9941e&is=67b8429e&hm=9490bcd5987d128d03bf1cc132bada8f648d6328c55d9aafbe7d63fc91733664&
742334393967015755776agr00902017-11-20T15:11:44.2980000-06:00Still haven't been able to get auto blower control working on thunder (so there is a switch to control it), tried installing RC snubber on contactor coil (to prevent potential voltage spike when turning off), but that did not change behavior of thunder where it fails to auto turn off blower after the set delay (it would keep running forever). Will see if same contactor works on new lasers to determine if its an issue with TL Timer board inside thunder
743334393967015755776agr00902017-11-20T15:13:59.2690000-06:00Larger 30 amp contactor to replace the 5 amp relay inside zing electrical box is also on order, observed some odd behavior where if you turn on zing switch, then turn on thunder switch, then turn off thunder switch, occassionally the blower would turn off, which should not happen as the relay inside zing control box should still be powering it. My guess is the undersized relay doesn't like the load being pulled through it by the 2 hp blower.
744334393967015755776agr00902017-11-20T15:17:52.5410000-06:00Ducting for placement of nova 35 left is installed, need some kind of coord management to run the 208 coord and air assist line all the way to sourcehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/382278397130440707/Q6xtc0ib4rGNTw5K7VEInl1PhIqW0wAgyRC7IPuSh9WHyVFgA70ZPKiY9IO-32tG_4OCBABW8EoaLFGRu3ZmF3i-7qdnJhDFhL7N.png?ex=67b99640&is=67b844c0&hm=fddccaeea26a57119ae6b78f2f6627f89aeac069b54eec8a58a541f76a46ffe9&
745300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-21T19:33:16.2750000-06:00NEW LASER UPDATE -- Things are moving much slower than they originally made it sound. The lasers cleared inspection on Friday, but it took till today for customs payment to be done by the shipper for customs to "release" them.
746300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-21T19:33:50.2710000-06:00It may be another day or two before they actually get moved onto a truck, and with the holiday I doubt we'll see them arrive till next week
747300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-21T19:34:02.2420000-06:00I'll post more details as I get them
748300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-21T19:36:38.9890000-06:00Wanted to still give a big thank you to Stan, Stephenie, David S, and Coul who offered to help with receiving them this week when we thought they'd arrive sooner
749194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-21T19:36:52.5400000-06:00we seem to be the same boat with the one we odered at polyprinter
750300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-11-21T21:05:35.7140000-06:00Thanks for the update Merissa.
751194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T15:59:39.1630000-06:00Fuck we need the other lasers
752300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-22T16:01:02.9680000-06:00Long queue?
753194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T16:10:07.5160000-06:00Yep
754194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T16:10:19.3170000-06:00For stuff that's only like 12x16😕 (1)
755121823075548266496shdragon2017-11-22T16:24:43.5180000-06:00Yeah. I can't wait, been here a couple hours for what's gonna be about 2 minutes of laser time.
756300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-22T16:26:10.6910000-06:00People running long jobs or just not ready to fire when they get to the laser?
757121823075548266496shdragon2017-11-22T16:26:52.1660000-06:00A little of column a, a little of column b, it seems.
758294269552705929216limeytx2017-11-27T07:52:53.5450000-06:00Any update on delivery?
759300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-28T17:46:40.7660000-06:00Ugh... The shipping company says they should arrive in Carrollton 12/5. I'm super frustrated with this and I know many of yall are as well. I've been contacting the shipper frequently to get status updates and maybe speed things along, but it hasn't seemed to help.
760385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T11:22:27.6680000-06:00posted update to Talk.
761334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T13:26:20.0940000-06:00Will be rebuilding zing control box (going to 30 amp contactor) and installing ivac pro auto blast gate this weekend, along with finalizing remaining wiring for when new lasers arrive. Would probably also be good to install the spare new tube into the nova 63 and clean / align mirrors this weekend (will be more difficult to access back once other lasers are there)
762385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T13:49:09.0950000-06:00Are we seeing reduced laser power on the 63?
763385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T13:50:30.7390000-06:00@AGr Sunday has Laser Basics at 1p...needs access to both lasers. Sunday has Rotary class at 3p...needs access to Thunder. So schedule around those, please.
764385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T13:51:41.3790000-06:00Also, what day/time are you scheduling this maintenance? I'm at the Space now and can post a physical sign. Keep our users happy-ish or at least informed.
765371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T13:52:06.4340000-06:00Would this be the right time to move the Zing to the outside? It is difficult to teach in its current location. Only a couple of people can see at a time.
766371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T13:52:40.8400000-06:00It would also help with wheelchair access
767385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T13:53:36.8170000-06:00Agreed. The Zing location is tough on classes. Its frustrating not to be able to see what the instructor is pointing to.
768385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T13:54:06.4740000-06:00#stephenie can you put a sign up with the projected delivery date for those that don't check talk?
769385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T13:54:32.2480000-06:00Got your back @pinewoodnut . Already done.
770334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T13:55:36.0730000-06:00@pinewoodnut Can measure output before doing swap, it has a lot of time on it so I assume it wouldn't hurt since the new one is sitting there. Would of course keep existing on hand as the spare, would be less risk keeping old spare offsite vs keeping brand new tube offsite
771334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T13:56:36.0790000-06:00Would also be a good time to install new stepper belts and just generally tune it up
772334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T13:57:52.9340000-06:00Will be there Saturday late afternoon
773385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T14:00:30.8240000-06:00@AGr Name a time. That'll give a deadline for the user to wrap up her/his work.
774385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:00:34.0990000-06:00Lmk when you will be there and I'd like to help I'd like to help if you let me know when you'll be there
775371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T14:09:05.9710000-06:00I should be avail too on Sat evening
776334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T14:09:10.5430000-06:001:15pm
777385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T14:09:52.9590000-06:00That'll do. Thx.
778385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:10:10.7810000-06:00I'm in.
779385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:11:08.4630000-06:00I can post it on the calendar. How much time do we think we want?👍 (1)
780334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T14:11:43.6590000-06:002 hours I would guess
781385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:12:01.1610000-06:00Ok. I'll submit it
782385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:18:26.7440000-06:00Is the rotary working again?
783371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T14:25:10.5080000-06:00Yes, the rotary is back up
784371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T14:31:27.4560000-06:00I submitted Laser Maintenance as an event to get it on the calendar.
785334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T14:32:34.9610000-06:00Amusing that from what I can find this class of laser tube claims a 6-10k hour lifespan (4-6 years at 4 hours per day), but typically only carry a 6-10 month warranty. Not sure on if output over time is flat and then falls off rapidly at end of life or has a steady decline, will have to measure output of current tube.
786371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T14:33:42.0570000-06:00@pinewoodnut beat me to adding it to the calendar, lol
787385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:34:00.3340000-06:00Did we do any testing with this tube when it was installed?
788371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T14:34:27.3490000-06:00@AGr @lukeiamyourfather it would be a great time to check the alignment of the tube, which is off a little bit
789371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T14:34:43.3710000-06:00We have a power meter to test current output
790385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T14:35:29.1850000-06:00Just interested in any power output numbers we got when it was installed....... Graphs are coooooool
791385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-29T14:52:15.0290000-06:00Blue tape "signs" up in multiple locations in Laser Area. Also added "New lasers ETA is Tues, 12/5. More downtime for install" just to prepare folks.
792300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-29T15:06:46.1430000-06:00Catching up on discussion... Thanks yall for helping with communication!
793194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T16:02:16.6970000-06:00It was measured at 130watts when we got it. That's what the new one should be as well
794371416661040955403talkers2017-11-29T16:38:52.1900000-06:00It will be interesting to see what it is at now
795300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-29T16:40:40.9470000-06:00I've never used the meter to test output. Pearce could you be available on Saturday to show me and others some test/maint procedures?
796194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T16:40:41.4630000-06:00Well people crank it to 100 all the time. The life is rated at lower usages
797194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T16:40:57.2190000-06:00Maybe. Let me make sure I'm not doing stuff with dani👍 (1)
798194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T19:24:42.4860000-06:00I'm setting up the Polyprinter one
799194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T19:24:48.4960000-06:00New thunder lasers have an optical z now instead of the physicalhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/385602031148335134/JPEG_20171129_192353.jpg?ex=67b92760&is=67b7d5e0&hm=0d40ad8831e74de8e9a8f852fd00d982b0c6f269bd9a936e8990e716c076a562&
800334393967015755776agr00902017-11-29T20:27:15.4190000-06:00The z travel limit switch is optical?
801194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T20:50:33.8780000-06:00On the new one we got at Polyprinter yes. Hopefully the new ones for the space do too
802194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T20:50:56.1940000-06:00That way you can't crash the head into your work.
803194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T20:51:25.1010000-06:00Currently it's physically limited underneath the table. So if you have a tall piece you can easily crash it
804194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-29T23:28:55.6060000-06:00Unpacking a new thunder has made me realize how much of a beating we put the nova 63 through
805385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-29T23:56:01.2220000-06:00Let's hope that having 2 more will help to spread some of the load around...... But I won't be holding my breath
806385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:32:28.5600000-06:00@merissa @AGr What's the plan for staging the crates? How long once they arrive before we uncrate? Begin install? Last I looked, the receiving dock still had items stored there. We're going to be taking up real estate.
807334393967015755776agr00902017-11-30T19:34:48.8050000-06:00plan is dissassemble crates and put lasers in laser area immediately
808385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:43:01.1420000-06:00How long is time to turnkey? First laser class on Tuesday starts at 5:30p.
809300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:45:53.4650000-06:00It's not very reasonable to make a plan for something we dont know how long will take and we dont know what time they'll arrive
810300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:46:21.7300000-06:00They might get there at 9am, or maybe it will be 5pm, just dont know
811385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:46:36.3640000-06:00Agreed.
812385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:47:21.5200000-06:00Which means @john a gorman needs a Plan B for the classes. And automotive needs a heads up.
813300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:47:31.1970000-06:00I don't see a laser class on Tuesday?
814385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:48:26.3520000-06:00Nix the 5:30, that's a classroom class on Inkscape. 7p is Holiday Ornaments
815300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:48:49.2800000-06:00Ack, ok yeah see it now
816385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:48:56.0950000-06:00Holiday Ornaments = @pinewoodnut
817385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:49:04.5910000-06:00He needs a Plan B.
818300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:49:49.7420000-06:00With how flakey the information the shipping company has given me, I hate to say cancel it
819300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:50:20.6870000-06:00But know we should have the new lasers up and running as quickly as possible
820385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:50:34.5250000-06:00Wait until the day of to make a go/no-go decision on the class.
821385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T19:52:37.9480000-06:00Oh, I don't doubt the team will work like gangbusters to get them up and running pronto. I'm looking at keeping goodwill with our already frustrated users and staying on automotive's good side. Open communication about the process and temporary headaches will go a long way.
822300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:55:05.8370000-06:00Understand. We need folks to be patient with us right now as the area is the best it can be at the moment. And sadly we're at the mercy of a timeline we can't control 🙁
823371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T19:55:53.6800000-06:00The ornament class is a good one. Esp for Christmas
824194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T19:56:36.7980000-06:00People just need to understand we aren't in charge of the postal service
825194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T19:56:44.5860000-06:00But that will never happen👍 (1)
826371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T19:56:54.1290000-06:00We just set up the lasers Weds evening & Thursday
827300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:57:58.5820000-06:00As for automotive, I don't see any planned activities there, but we can ask tom if he's ok with us using the non-lift bay during uncrating. I don't think we'll be in the way there for long. And we really need logistics to keep the loading dock clear. We cleared it before Thanksgiving, they need to keep from storing things there
828300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:58:10.0270000-06:00What do you mean John?
829371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T19:59:02.5270000-06:00To work around the classes. I agree with you about using the 3rd Bay. I can message Tom if you wish
830300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T19:59:44.4390000-06:00I'd say it's more important to move classes and get lasers up and running myself
831371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:00:02.9740000-06:00Classes can't be moved
832385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:00:34.8870000-06:00Class can be cancelled.
833300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:00:42.2990000-06:00You have a laser class Wednesday night as well
834371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:00:54.5290000-06:00They have to be cancelled and rescheduled for the 20+ people signed up. Diff on the install is 24 hrd
835371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:01:11.5930000-06:00My Weds class is classroom based
836300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:01:31.2170000-06:00Wednesday, 8pm, making boxes
837300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:01:43.8100000-06:00thursday night is tours
838300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:02:05.3050000-06:00brandon and I are not available Thursday-Saturday as we'll be out of state
839385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:02:06.2310000-06:00Not the noon and 6p rotary classes.
840385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:02:19.5350000-06:00Not classroom based.
841371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:03:17.3810000-06:00Merissa, you are right. I was looking at the Tuesday class
842371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:05:42.1930000-06:00I'll be extremely upset if my classes are cancelled.
843300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:06:11.5760000-06:00You want new lasers up and running right?
844300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:06:31.8410000-06:00I want to find a solution, but we need help and cooperation from everyone
845300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:07:03.3640000-06:00Like I said, we don't have an absolute time of delivery, so we'll have to wait and see
846371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:08:07.0060000-06:00I can wait another week for the lasers
847300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:08:45.6080000-06:00And you think other members would agree?
848371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:08:49.4900000-06:00Do you and Brandon have to be there to install the new ones?
849300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:09:05.5320000-06:00Nope, volunteers are free to help
850371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:09:21.4550000-06:00Yes, I think people will wait an extra 24 hours, esp those signed up
851385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:09:34.8320000-06:00Do we have qualified volunteers lined up?
852371416661040955403talkers2017-11-30T20:09:48.5920000-06:00As long as they get in by Friday, I'll help
853300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:09:48.9890000-06:00define qualified
854300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:10:00.0400000-06:00I have no idea what qualified means
855385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:10:08.4710000-06:00They know how to install these babies?
856300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:10:09.1280000-06:00this is all learn as we go
857385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:10:12.8020000-06:00LOL!
858300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:10:21.3870000-06:00seriously, no one is a pro here
859385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T20:12:36.9590000-06:00OK
860334393967015755776agr00902017-11-30T20:22:41.0320000-06:00I'm qualified, I read the manual😛 (1),👍 (1)
861300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:25:18.7810000-06:00@pearce , @lukeiamyourfather , anyone else involved in the last thunder delivery?
862194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T20:26:53.3910000-06:00Pretty easy setup. Did one last night, easy enough
863300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:29:16.9710000-06:00how long would you say it took?
864334393967015755776agr00902017-11-30T20:30:58.6860000-06:00Main part is setup / prep we've been doing the past month, should just be plugging in and verifying alignment and functionality when they arrive
865194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T20:34:03.6330000-06:00Yeah biggest part is unpacking
866194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T20:34:17.6490000-06:00It comes aligned. I had to move the red dot a bit
867194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T20:34:28.1470000-06:00But should check
868300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:35:22.0200000-06:00So yes, the best thing will be to have help this weekend doing final prep so actual installation goes quickly and we don't impose on users/classes
869300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:36:51.6630000-06:00Saturday afternoon, think it's on the calendar as starting at 1:15
870300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T20:37:12.5420000-06:00come on out and help!
871385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-30T20:50:35.9100000-06:00I read the manual AND watched the videos too, so I'm qualified :)😃 (1),👍 (2)
872385477767179010049stephenie.2017-11-30T21:48:20.2140000-06:00Y'all crack me up like an egg.
873385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-30T22:01:10.5500000-06:00Is there a reason I can't do my class on Nova 63 while the small ones are being installed? Other than too many people in too small a space?
874194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-30T22:11:16.5010000-06:00Ventilation disconnections
875385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-30T22:19:07.6410000-06:00Ok....fair
876334393967015755776agr00902017-11-30T22:20:13.5540000-06:00T is already there for new Nova near counter, will just be connecting one section of semi rigid ducting to it
877385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-11-30T22:20:29.2660000-06:00I can email all the people who are signed up for my class to see if they have an alternate time that works for everyone.
878300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T22:30:33.9560000-06:00I think we can work around classes if they're not too big
879300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-30T22:31:14.8820000-06:00Might be a little distracting, but shouldn't have to take the 63 down
880371416661040955403talkers2017-12-01T16:55:55.3210000-06:00Is William on here? He expressed interest on Talk in helping
881300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-01T17:01:39.3460000-06:00Not sure, but that would be great!
882300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-01T17:01:58.1260000-06:00Quick poll... Who's planning to come help on Saturday?
883371416661040955403talkers2017-12-01T17:07:32.7200000-06:00I was planning on being there in the evening. I'll try to make it by 1pm👍 (1)
884300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T19:21:52.0060000-06:00Thunder got a lot of tlc today! Alignment, lense and mirrors cleaned, tube measured 125 watts! Should be performing great now
885334393967015755776agr00902017-12-02T19:22:05.4390000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386688510633181185/IMG_20171202_135217.jpg?ex=67b926bd&is=67b7d53d&hm=5b8daaf85a933c1e67e661f4e0928167986b2ff0544fbe5d8488707e05a8f8f3&
886300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T19:22:32.1420000-06:00Will start documenting these maintenance events on the wiki
887300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T19:23:42.8810000-06:00Big thanks to David S and Stephenie for their hard work
888334393967015755776agr00902017-12-02T19:23:43.1770000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386688921326583818/IMG_20171202_163011.jpg?ex=67b9271f&is=67b7d59f&hm=8415a5386f4f0587b2966977f3e8c1d4ee213d0d8fa8c36a22efc9d83e4ce421&
889300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T19:24:17.2710000-06:00Along with @AGr 😉
890300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T19:24:45.6250000-06:00More work happening on the Zing after dinner
891194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-02T19:29:58.4100000-06:00On way up now. Hitting home Depot on the way
892300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T20:35:56.1760000-06:00Pearce are you there? Can you tell me the size of the co2 air hose?
893371416661040955403talkers2017-12-02T20:38:15.1830000-06:00Thank you @merissa @AGr @stephenie @pinewoodnut
894371416661040955403talkers2017-12-02T20:38:41.9210000-06:00Are you thinking of checking the power output on the Zing?
895300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T20:39:01.9560000-06:00Yes that's the plan to do next
896371416661040955403talkers2017-12-02T20:39:13.2960000-06:00Great. Thank you👍 (1)
897334393967015755776agr00902017-12-02T21:33:59.7950000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386721706598989824/IMG_20171202_211920.jpg?ex=67b945a7&is=67b7f427&hm=2ef6600670d863dc464e232234cf4f3b5ab5330b1a9510d75a843de2818a9f69&
898334393967015755776agr00902017-12-02T22:34:00.9570000-06:00Yay, didn't let any smoke outhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386736810304471052/IMG_20171202_223322.jpg?ex=67b953b8&is=67b80238&hm=37ac2a249a03981993362df6899c91eb37a0a337d98c212e0b79f2a54f89207c&
899371416661040955403talkers2017-12-02T22:48:01.0940000-06:00New relay?
900300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-02T23:33:45.6000000-06:00Adding blast gate and improving switch on zinghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386751845319704577/20171202_233230.jpg?ex=67b961b9&is=67b81039&hm=884a630c225ecd8ec850960aca6a6954d8e345b0938cb10ae3bd427cdf8ef428&
901371416661040955403talkers2017-12-02T23:52:00.5490000-06:00Ohhhh that looks fancy!
902371416661040955403talkers2017-12-02T23:52:23.1100000-06:00I haven't seen it open. That would be a fun picture to share with the community
903300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T03:38:03.8610000-06:00Zing power is at 30 watts
904300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T03:39:01.4420000-06:00Realized we left without strapping the CO2 bottle back to the Thunder desk after moving things. Can someone take care of that so it's more secure?
905194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-03T04:21:55.3370000-06:00Sure
906194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-03T04:29:31.7960000-06:00Done
907300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T08:28:31.4180000-06:00Thanks! You're awesome!
908109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:27:30.4660000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386946566050676746/IMG_20171203_100350.jpg?ex=67b96e52&is=67b81cd2&hm=ea6f6bced6bf0c93300e1662884830ba002ff41c8855ffbbbf25eb4dabf0dc4f&
909109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:28:06.1700000-06:00@merissa happened too soon
910109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:28:14.4830000-06:00Thankfully it was all clean stuff
911300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:30:09.3480000-06:00Was it left or is somebody working on their auto stuff in laser?
912300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:43:01.4410000-06:00Reviewing cam. Was left by someone driving a blue car who drove in at 8:15, and dropped the stuff after moving someone's things who was working in laser
913300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:47:23.1480000-06:00I'll be adding big obvious signage now I guess.👍 (1)
914300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:48:18.0750000-06:00It looks like the owner of the stuff is still there if you're willing to talk to the member about it @LukeStrickland
915109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:48:58.7870000-06:00Yeah I can tell them about dirty stuff
916109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:49:04.7040000-06:00Who?
917300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:49:19.8160000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386952057862750218/unknown.png?ex=67b9736f&is=67b821ef&hm=a6181289c936abe4b135a97120050cf674d1ba53aef9a40f33e0119538380c68&
918300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:49:26.3760000-06:00Laser space is for laser work only
919109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:50:14.3610000-06:00Well I think he might be cutting gaskets ?
920109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T12:50:20.6420000-06:00Which is technically laser work
921300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T12:50:37.3020000-06:00ok
922371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T13:15:00.0550000-06:00That's Ron the Fireman. Super nice guy
923300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T13:17:55.0050000-06:00Thanks John. At first I thought the auto parts were just left behind, not part of a laser project. Not ideal to have auto parts on the table (something we feared by moving the table), but looks like he's doing it in a clean way.
924300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T13:19:10.7520000-06:00The first pic made me jump to conclusions 😨
925371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T13:19:32.3600000-06:00He does a lot of volunteer work restoring an old old fire engine. Neat stuff👍 (1)
926300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-03T13:22:27.4440000-06:00Looks like you guys and gals are doing some great work.💪 (1),😃 (1)
927300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-03T13:23:20.1130000-06:00Glad the Zing is still doing 30 watts
928300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-03T13:24:25.0370000-06:00Sorry I couldn't be there this weekend.
929300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T13:26:04.0690000-06:00All good, I was happy to see full power too!
930300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T13:27:08.6220000-06:00The mirrors in the left side housing were pretty dirty, so that might have been affecting performance
931300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T13:28:41.2820000-06:00Thinking of planning a January Laser Maintenance Day for Sunday, January 7th
932300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T13:29:01.0300000-06:00anyone have problems with that day?
933371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T13:42:12.3550000-06:00That's great. Sundays are usually quieter than Saturdays.
934371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T13:43:10.3360000-06:00Just told Tommy that discord is picking up for comms. He will look into it again
935385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-03T15:21:15.3720000-06:00January 7th will work for me
936371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T16:46:37.9240000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/387011776275021824/IMG_20171203_164556.jpg?ex=67b9ab0d&is=67b8598d&hm=71eb75e28eeb00353efcb7b3a29339d07b56c1019d3c596104afb281abb28de6&
937371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T16:46:51.0250000-06:00?
938300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T16:47:03.6160000-06:00air sensor got moved from the wall to the back of the thunder
939300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T16:47:23.1550000-06:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/air/
940194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-03T16:51:44.3950000-06:00It's a tracking bug to steal all of your laser files😁 (1)
941371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T16:57:19.9750000-06:00Bah. Just go to my member drive
942109359055532732416clone10182017-12-03T17:06:01.4200000-06:00All of that auto junk is still on the laser table btw, 10 hours later
943300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T17:08:07.1150000-06:00🙁 definitely not excellent to tie up workspace for that long, no matter if it's in laser or anywhere else. I'll be adding signage to the area saying keep workspaces clear
944300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T17:08:31.0880000-06:00from the cam looks like the member is waiting to use the laser though
945300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T17:08:56.2800000-06:00or just using the computers... can't tell
946300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T17:11:20.8850000-06:00FYI -- once the new lasers are here I'll be more strictly enforcing that the computers are for loading laser jobs only, not designing or web searching
947371416661040955403talkers2017-12-03T18:02:05.3520000-06:00I'll tell Ron. He's still here, working on the gasket design
948300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-03T18:08:13.4690000-06:00thank you
949334393967015755776agr00902017-12-04T00:25:03.2710000-06:00What do you call a fitting like this, so I can have an air line solidly attached to sheet metal the air is passing through
950334393967015755776agr00902017-12-04T00:25:08.3430000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/387127163876409344/unknown.png?ex=67b96dc4&is=67b81c44&hm=784b7d03bdf80cf5eb765e7cf23ac287c41f7eb9c07825ee98fd58bde8c5ddff&
951334393967015755776agr00902017-12-04T00:36:02.4860000-06:00looks like bulkhead union / coupling, but what I drew is apparently not common, might just go with grommets and zipties instead
952371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T13:17:34.6120000-06:00@AGr ask Tim. It's his world
953300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:21:04.7770000-06:00Hmm looks like he's not on discord
954300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:22:00.2150000-06:00@pearce is the info I shared from Thunder on belt replacement procedure enough for us to get them changed out?
955300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:22:19.5980000-06:00They're in a box in the tool cabinet
956194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T13:25:11.9330000-06:00Did we get the big ones?
957300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:27:03.5730000-06:00Ummm I guess so... I requested replacement belts from thunder and they sent us some 😀
958300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:27:45.2960000-06:00I wanted to do that Saturday but we were passed our scheduled down time and a queue was forming waiting to get on the thunder
959334393967015755776agr00902017-12-04T13:28:29.4550000-06:00By not common I mean not stocked at home depot, my requirement is what I can pick up in 20 minutes. Would be 4.64 each off mcmaster-carr (female instead of male npt that I drew), or 7.71 each for barbed male bulkhead/throughwall fittings
960194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T13:36:04.3240000-06:00Let's wait for delivery for the others before removing the belts from the 63. It works currently if you don't use high speeds
961194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T13:36:26.1900000-06:00I'd hate to take it down when it's the only big one available
962300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:37:07.5100000-06:00Good point :)
963300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:40:11.2680000-06:00David did a test of some of his snowflakes for us on Saturday after cleaning and alignment and they came out great, very sharp lines no wavy issues, so we were pleased
964300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T13:40:36.0210000-06:00Mostly yeah just need to find the right settings
965194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T13:42:22.4460000-06:00John is describing a similar but separate issue
966300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:15:05.6060000-06:00Anyone with a truck available to pick up a 4×8 pallet for us sometime this week?
967371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T16:15:59.8910000-06:00My van is down ☹
968371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T16:16:45.5580000-06:00But I could pull a small trailer
969371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T16:17:11.9660000-06:00What's on the pallet?
970300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:17:29.5340000-06:00Will use it to ship the saur
971371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T16:18:03.3640000-06:00So not heavy
972300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:18:53.0220000-06:00Right would be an empty pallet to start :)
973300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:20:05.4900000-06:00Still figuring out how to buy a single pallet... Looks like they're usually sold in bulk
974194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T16:25:55.1590000-06:00The thunders should show up on pallets
975194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T16:26:09.5410000-06:00PolyPrinter might still have the one ours came on. Asking.
976300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:26:53.7540000-06:00Oh wow you're brilliant! I should have thought of that 😄
977300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:27:22.3880000-06:00Waiting to ship the saur till new ones get in anyways just in case
978194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T16:28:54.1600000-06:00They do come on pallets
979194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T16:29:09.2100000-06:00Poly still has it, but it was outside in the rain yesterday
980300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T16:30:13.0320000-06:00Ok well I think we're good then. Just will make sure to tell folks to keep the pallet if I'm not there during uncrating
981194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-04T16:30:21.5450000-06:00K
982300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-04T22:27:25.4690000-06:00Are we still expecting the lasers on 12/5?
983371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T22:27:58.9380000-06:00That's the latest info
984300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T22:31:21.8900000-06:00The shipping agent didn't respond to my email requesting an update today, so I'm not optimistic 😑
985300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T22:32:05.7220000-06:00typing up an email right now to thunder on the crappy shipping
986371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T22:32:44.3000000-06:00They are about a month off the estimate
987300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T22:33:51.5580000-06:00Yep. Made it to the states on the day they said they'd get to us, and now delay after delay to get them to Carrollton
988300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T22:34:26.8930000-06:00Really frustrated
989371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:03:56.9790000-06:00@merissa don't sweat it. Everyone is excited. Yet everyone understands the delays. They are just looking forward
990300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:05:22.1560000-06:00thanks John 😃 just hate making everyone wait and the delivery being so out of our control
991300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:05:28.4480000-06:00I'll post as soon as I know something though
992371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:08:00.2060000-06:00Everyone's cool about it. Happy they are coming in
993385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:10:47.3850000-06:00And the whiteboard notification has been helpful. Spoke with two users who don't read Talk and were excited to be in the loop via the board. They do understand it is a moving target.
994300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:11:22.6750000-06:00That's awesome, thanks for taking care of that mode of communication Stephenie!
995371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:11:42.8130000-06:00Lots of people don't know about it at all. Maybe heard one is coming in...
996385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:11:56.5330000-06:00I'll update it tomorrow if necessary.
997300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:12:12.4900000-06:00sounds good
998371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:12:26.0620000-06:00So when they hear a little, they are super thrilled
999385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:12:49.5130000-06:00I saw your full color guidelines. Is that file on your member drive?
1000300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:14:19.2090000-06:00I'm keeping my fingers crossed that tomorrow someone says the truck with the lasers has magically shown up 😄
1001300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:15:48.4780000-06:00Stephenie can you send a message to Tom (TLAR) about possibly blocking the left auto bay whenever the lasers get here and we work to uncrate?
1002300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:16:04.9050000-06:00I don't think he uses discord
1003385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:22:31.3650000-06:00Done. Will let you know his response.
1004300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:22:39.5830000-06:00Perfect, thank you!
1005385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:33:27.6290000-06:00He writes that due to the late notice, probably not.
1006300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:34:00.2310000-06:00probably not what?
1007385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:34:22.0980000-06:00not able to block the bay
1008300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:34:47.0440000-06:00It's a loading zone and pretty unavoidable
1009300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:35:01.6510000-06:00there really is no alternative
1010385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:35:47.4860000-06:00I thought the loading zone was the space between the roll up door and the bay
1011300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:37:44.9360000-06:00Right, I'm not saying we're going to roll them into auto and leave them there, but they are large crates that we have to move through that area, possibly into the part of auto nearest the dock, for however long it takes to uncrate
1012385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:40:45.7720000-06:00I hear you.
1013385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:41:35.6760000-06:00We've waited until (possibly) 12-18 hrs before delivery to notify Tom.
1014300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:43:13.4960000-06:00I'm not going to debate something that is unavoidable, and as we discussed we wanted to give notification as a courtesy. If it becomes an issue for him he can discuss it with me or the board
1015371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:44:15.2820000-06:00There should be plenty of room on the loading dock.
1016371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:45:23.0320000-06:00Everything else might get pushed into the 3rd Bay 😬
1017300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:45:23.7520000-06:00yeah, just two big crates, were trying to just let auto know about the activity
1018300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:45:38.2690000-06:00there is no third bay...?
1019371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:46:26.4920000-06:00Three auto bays. Lift, behind lift, left of lift.
1020300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:46:39.6330000-06:00there are only two bays and a loading zone
1021300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:46:58.4220000-06:00semantics though
1022371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:47:09.1400000-06:00Luke S was going to working on clearing the loading zone. I didn't check tonight
1023300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:47:25.7340000-06:00It was pretty clear on saturday, just empty carts to move
1024300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:47:33.0080000-06:00think he's monitoring it
1025385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:53:53.1160000-06:00Tom says automotive has a committee meeting tomorrow and they are bring a car into the left side bay during the mtg.
1026371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:54:50.9470000-06:00Properly placed, that car is about 12 feet from the garage door
1027385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:55:19.9170000-06:00I am just the messenger.
1028300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:55:24.8450000-06:00No notice of a meeting on the calendar or Talk 🙃
1029385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:55:37.7590000-06:00See above.
1030371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:55:44.0390000-06:00Huh
1031371416661040955403talkers2017-12-04T23:55:54.8680000-06:00Still, should not affect us
1032300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:56:00.4340000-06:00👍 sorry you have to hear my frustration
1033300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:57:34.5400000-06:00I'm done whining for the night 😄 but like I said, I'll post the minute I hear anything about delivery
1034385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-04T23:58:01.8450000-06:00Sounds great. I'll monitor discord tomorrow with bated breath.
1035300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-04T23:59:26.9760000-06:00Well, I said I was done but I just got an email response from Thunder.
1036300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:00:18.0790000-06:00Thunder talked with the shipper, says we will receive it "this week and before delivery they will call and confirm the time"
1037371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T00:00:50.8400000-06:00Oh. I was going that since we bought two, we got a third free?
1038300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:00:52.8650000-06:00The number they have is my cell, so I'll update
1039371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T00:01:00.7860000-06:00*hoping
1040300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:01:03.6310000-06:00haha I wish!
1041300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:01:18.2430000-06:00throw in some free lenses maybe? 😃
1042371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T00:01:31.5910000-06:00This week is still good. January bad.
1043300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:01:37.7760000-06:00haha yes very true
1044300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:07:04.7220000-06:00so if they arrive tomorrow or Wednesday, Brandon and I will be there that evening to uncrate and install with whoever else is available
1045300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:08:21.2880000-06:00We'll be in Nebraska Thursday through Saturday afternoon though, so if others can uncrate and move them if they arrive Thursday or Friday that'd be greatly appreciated!
1046300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:09:07.0850000-06:00(all plans avoid interfering with classes)
1047385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T00:13:18.1340000-06:00I posted an update to the Delivery thread. Tagged Tom as a way to get a little cooperation.
1048300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:14:03.8380000-06:00👍 good deal
1049300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-05T00:41:52.5600000-06:00I think Tom was thinking you were wanting the entire left bay. Both crates should fit mostly on the leveler and just beyond.
1050300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:42:26.7290000-06:00Yeah just might encroach for a short while
1051194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T00:42:45.9870000-06:00im pretty sure last time there wasnt a shelf in the way, but should be good
1052300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:43:17.3810000-06:00Sorry for the miscommunication on my part
1053300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-05T00:44:33.1180000-06:00I'm planning on being here for the delivery.
1054300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T00:45:14.6340000-06:00That's awesome! Thank you so much!
1055109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:29:03.5010000-06:00@merissa a delivery truck is here
1056109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:29:07.3520000-06:00not sure if its lasers
1057109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:29:24.0750000-06:00I'm going to head over just incase
1058194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T11:35:37.3090000-06:00I'll be by in just a bit but can't stay for long
1059194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T11:35:53.1320000-06:00And back later for setup
1060385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T11:37:16.4240000-06:00john and I are here in the Lecture Hall.
1061109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:46:18.4690000-06:00False alarm
1062109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:46:27.9070000-06:00Some member parked there
1063109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:46:42.0170000-06:00Got him to move so we dont get rejected
1064109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T11:46:55.8330000-06:00Cc @pearce false alarm
1065194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T11:50:56.4380000-06:00Booo I still have to swing by. Make sure we keep the pallets if y'all uncrate them early
1066300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T12:06:02.9980000-06:00Omg I got so excited for a sec!
1067109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T12:06:28.4680000-06:00me too
1068109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T12:06:41.9920000-06:00stan's got it now so I'll show up some time after 5
1069300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-05T12:13:54.5480000-06:00Rhett got a box truck, I'm excited for him, but disappointed that there weren't lasers inside. 😉😂 (1)
1070385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T12:58:23.5560000-06:00Talked with Merissa during maintenance day re: the wiki. Added a log of laser maintenance to preserve power history. Got her go-ahead to re-organize it without removing info, aka housekeeping and consolidation. Example: eliminating the redundancies between About and Purpose.👍 (1)
1071300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:02:18.2960000-06:00I added the bit about the zing maintenance to the new section👍 (1)
1072109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T13:03:42.7250000-06:00@StanSimmons more people blocking the loading dock....
1073109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T13:05:40.4240000-06:00@merissa is this a specialty freight company or fedex/usps/ups?
1074300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:05:51.4180000-06:00I wish I knew :(
1075109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T13:05:57.1870000-06:00that knowledge will help calm my nerves
1076109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T13:06:04.6600000-06:00fedex/usps/ups will just gtfo if someone is blocking
1077300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:06:05.5500000-06:00I can't get any specifics
1078109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T13:06:28.2870000-06:00ok thx
1079300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:06:39.7590000-06:00I hope they keep to their word that they will call me day of to let me know time
1080385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T13:06:51.3590000-06:00Re: wiki...do we really maintain the laser computers or did that move to infrastructure?
1081300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:07:18.4630000-06:00Um yeah I'd say just strike that comment
1082300730152533360651.somecallmery2017-12-05T13:28:06.7890000-06:00Anyone have issues homing the zing lately? It's been a while, so maybe I'm dumb. But when I disable xy, position the head and hit go it travels to one side in x, returns to the other side and then moves down a little in y and calls that home.
1083194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T13:30:47.3730000-06:00Not sure why it's going to it's reset switches to do that
1084194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T13:31:24.9190000-06:00We saw it the other night and couldn't figure it out
1085300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:49:59.8190000-06:00Yeah it did that right after we moved it to its new spot and someone was able to fix it. @john a gorman was that you?
1086371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T13:52:06.1840000-06:00@LukeStrickland let's use the belt with the 2 posts by the laser work table to block off the ramp, if we don't have cones
1087371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T13:52:39.7340000-06:00@merissa no. Not me. I can look at it late tonight.👍 (1)
1088300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T13:59:56.6660000-06:00Shipping agent emailed me back...
1089300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:00:15.0840000-06:00"We had some complication with the warehouse for driver to arrange pickup. So sorry for the delay on responding as I is also having problem with our email server. The cargo actual pick up from the warehouse today in Los Angeles due to release issue at the warehouse. We had to pay storage charges, not bill to you as this was an error between China and their consolidator. We’re getting the pro# from Roadrunner. Once I have receive it, will on forward to you."
1090300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:01:41.8970000-06:00So definitely can stand down for a couple days 😢
1091109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T14:02:02.5140000-06:00wtf
1092300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:04:51.5010000-06:00😭
1093109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T14:06:31.3570000-06:00someone needs to middleman this company and have a stock of lasers in the US lol
1094385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T14:06:59.4510000-06:00Thank you for keeping us up to date, @merissa . I'll update Talk.
1095300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:08:03.1960000-06:00I know really. Recommending to Thunder they choose a new shipping company
1096194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T14:09:49.2190000-06:00How much did we pay for shipping??🤔 (1)
1097300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:12:47.5710000-06:00$2,500 😡
1098300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:13:45.9680000-06:00"Shipping cost to door"
1099194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T14:14:12.7540000-06:00They have a warehouse in LA that's where we got our laser from.
1100194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T14:14:26.2430000-06:00We ordered weeks after laser did
1101194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T14:14:57.6420000-06:00Something doesn't sound right
1102300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:15:11.9230000-06:00They didn't have 35s here so had to come from china is what I was told
1103194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T14:19:09.0890000-06:00Yeah
1104194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T14:19:18.0890000-06:00They probably made it when we ordered
1105300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:20:34.4320000-06:00Yeah that's what they said, and sent a video when it was complete and getting crated
1106300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:21:17.8660000-06:00I also got a quote for another 63 back then tjat we didnt pursue and shipping cost would have been the same
1107385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T14:21:34.7040000-06:00Donner and Blitzen (their new names). It feels like Santa has passed over DMS.😪 (1)
1108300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:21:37.1320000-06:00For parts seems like those come from a us warehouse and can get here quick
1109300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:22:21.2590000-06:00The sleigh just got delayed🎅 (1)
1110300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T14:22:47.8510000-06:00We'll be ready for the last minute christmas gift makers
1111385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T14:27:20.6200000-06:00@StanSimmons posted on Talk (but merissa can't see it): "I wonder if contacting Thunder and asking for half price on a rotary tool would be appropriate compensation for the colossal cluster-*@#& that this shipment has been?"
1112300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T15:15:44.9410000-06:00Hah I'm not great with that kind of negotiation, would rather ask for partial refund on shipping, but if anyone else wants to try 😄
1113371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T16:33:15.6140000-06:00Re rotary. The motor was rubbing against a pulley. Fixed it with Mike Churchill and Tim B. Also added a cable tie so the cord doesn't get pulled out
1114371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T16:34:57.5760000-06:00I added an Ethernet cable to the Visio. The wifi was flakey for the Chromecast.
1115300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T16:40:08.4040000-06:00Someone else reported homing issue on Zing after move. I thought Pierce did something and it started working.
1116300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T16:41:49.1100000-06:00Zing TS said sensors need cleaning. Has anyone taken sides off and used air to blast it clean lately?
1117300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T16:43:15.4430000-06:00Yes, we did a thorough cleaning on saturday
1118194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T16:50:16.4160000-06:00We just rolled with it homing incorrectly. I didn't actually get a test cut in after the power test
1119300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T17:56:34.1100000-06:00@merissa Did you take off the side covers when you cleaned it?
1120300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T17:57:19.7030000-06:00Yes
1121300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T17:58:50.3570000-06:00Hmmm. I'll have to get back with Epilog TS and see where to go from here.
1122300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T17:59:17.6690000-06:00I'll call tomorrow.
1123300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T17:59:56.1700000-06:00Ok, well let's see if John has any luck tonight when he looks at it
1124300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T18:05:06.1340000-06:00These need to be inspected and cleaned in the Zing.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/387756299393433612/zinglimitsensor.jpg?ex=67b9bd71&is=67b86bf1&hm=4cb54a19e427048f5bc4acd6b11a449866420f1948dd8b52ab36794d6841c6c7&
1125300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T18:05:52.1510000-06:00Per Epilog TS: This will be found on the right side of the machine. You will have taken off the control panel and the keypad display to get rid of the panel. When you get access to this make sure that 1) the carriage assembly can reach the sensor. 2) Make sure the sensor is clean, you may use a dry Q-tip or compressed air to get rid of any excess debris.
1126300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-05T18:08:09.4240000-06:00If John can get in there and inspect all the wires for loose connections and make sure these are clean and we still have the problem, I'll call Epilog TS tomorrow. Just let me know what happens tonight.👍 (1)
1127194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T18:15:02.6740000-06:00It goes and tags home but doesn't register the origin you wanted to set it to
1128300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T18:15:59.5560000-06:00@AGr is headed up to the space too, so maybe he can give it a try as well
1129194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T18:42:21.8650000-06:00We didn't take that side of the machine off
1130194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T18:42:33.0670000-06:00Just blew it out and it's working now👍 (1)
1131300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T18:44:49.1190000-06:00👍 👍
1132371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T22:12:34.5550000-06:00@pearce awesome. Thank you
1133385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T22:27:54.3450000-06:00I finished consolidating the wiki. Grouped related material together. Created an outline format; previously all items carried the same weight, which made it hard to visually sort through, plus made the page very long. Checked all links; fixed two broken ones.
1134385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-05T22:30:08.3500000-06:00Two subpages can be retired. I've kept the links on the main page until I get the go-ahead to delete the subpages. One page was just for the Thunders. All but 2 or 3 items on the page were repeated from the main page. Other page (https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/MakerSpace_Lasers) contained no new info.
1135385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-05T23:30:41.3960000-06:00Can we order a couple of USB hubs for the Donner and Thunder workstations? Put them on the desktop instead of reaching under for the ports on the machines.
1136300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T23:31:47.2840000-06:00There is a single usb port cord for each on the desktop
1137300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T23:32:07.2280000-06:00Where the keyboard cord comes up
1138371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T23:33:52.2610000-06:00It's for people that use USB sticks
1139300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T23:34:25.6120000-06:00?
1140300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T23:35:16.5380000-06:00Is what's there on the desk not sufficient?
1141371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T23:35:16.7940000-06:00To transfer image files. I recommend a 16 port hub for each. They fill up fast as people forget them 😂
1142300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T23:36:08.1670000-06:00Have you tried what is there? Usb connector cord at each station?
1143371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T23:36:37.8130000-06:00Oh, I hear you. I hadn't seen it yet
1144371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T23:36:47.4590000-06:00That would work
1145300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-05T23:37:26.3050000-06:00Great, just making sure we're all on the same page
1146371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T23:37:41.1490000-06:00✌
1147334393967015755776agr00902017-12-06T02:30:56.8010000-06:00https://www.amazon.com/Allwood-Counter-Island-options-Routed/dp/B01N9LFD7Q
1148334393967015755776agr00902017-12-06T02:31:10.0980000-06:00Allwood 6/4" (1.5") x 18" x 84" Birch Table / Counter / Island Top
1149334393967015755776agr00902017-12-06T02:31:33.8910000-06:00is the counter that was used for the computers on the red wall
1150300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:11:48.0620000-06:00NEW LASER DELIVERY UPDATE! Now with actual tracking information! 😀😍 (1)
1151300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:12:20.5440000-06:00Delivery estimated for Monday 12/11/17
1152300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:12:24.2180000-06:00http://tools.rrts.com/LTLTrack/?searchValues=449631977
1153300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:13:10.2190000-06:00Roadrunner tracking Pro# 449631977
1154300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:14:23.2050000-06:00I'll be checking the tracking page and will update if I see any changes
1155300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:15:00.2080000-06:00@StanSimmons will you be around the space and available Monday?
1156109359055532732416clone10182017-12-07T13:37:22.2070000-06:00I'm available Monday and only work a block away, I can at least accept it if needed
1157300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T13:43:09.7170000-06:00Wohoo! Thanks Luke! I'll keep you posted
1158300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T15:51:53.0130000-06:00@stephenie or @pinewoodnut can yall update Talk? Also need to update Tom on the delivery... It looks like Auto's toolbox is being delivered Monday too so hopefully that won't be a big problem
1159300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-07T16:55:18.5940000-06:00I'll be available👍 (1)
1160371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T16:56:55.3480000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/388463917942308864/JPEG_20171207_165634.jpg?ex=67b9ad77&is=67b85bf7&hm=c11f37036332d7cc12ba304dcdb8c6a8efb111208300abd191d61bd9a258043d&
1161371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T16:57:20.4430000-06:00I added a few little signs around the Space
1162371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T17:08:12.5330000-06:00Talk updated with date and link👍 (2)
1163300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T18:08:49.3200000-06:00Nice. Thanks!
1164385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T19:39:10.3230000-06:00Tom knows. He's more relaxed about the delivery now.👍 (1)
1165371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T19:42:23.1460000-06:00That's good news
1166385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T19:47:36.7920000-06:00I'm concerned about today's post: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-engrave-and-cut-1000-leather-keychains/29943. Guy's not a member. Has a large production job.
1167385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T19:48:15.7830000-06:00I've asked Bill to add an option to the RFID queue that asks, "is any part of the laser work for profit?"
1168385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T19:49:32.9000000-06:00Hoping we could get metrics on how production is impacting the queue, instead of just speculating.
1169371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T19:56:07.7650000-06:00Setting a max time if others are in que might be nec
1170194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-07T19:56:57.0240000-06:00fuck that
1171194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-07T19:57:27.7130000-06:00we dont have a ban on people making stuff for production
1172371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T19:58:05.3560000-06:00We shouldn't
1173334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T20:59:48.5760000-06:00We could increase laser per minute cost
1174334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T21:02:38.3260000-06:00Or an exponential rate to discourage long usage time, so it costs multiple hundreds to use all day
1175385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T21:05:51.2820000-06:00Another guy is there now doing a for-profit production run of 30sec jobs on stacks of wood blanks. Three people in queue. Next user has been waiting since 6p (3hrs). Prime time. We've got one laser for his type of job. He is only half way through the blanks. It's holiday time. There are people who want to make gifts for family, etc. Or just want to work on a hobby. It's a tough reality.
1176334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T21:07:17.5850000-06:00Will be interesting to see how lasers next week impact resource contention
1177385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T21:08:21.0390000-06:00Agreed. And I do want Bill to add that option where users indicate if the job is for-profit. I can give anecdotal evidence all day long. But it's not the same as metrics.
1178194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-07T21:09:43.1100000-06:00the other people could ask to get ahead of him,👏 (1)
1179334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T21:09:48.7110000-06:00Resource allocation in a first come first serve basis only is hard to manage as dms scales
1180385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T21:09:58.8860000-06:00One already has asked and was let in.
1181334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T21:10:28.2170000-06:00I like the keep buying more lasers if the new ones stay busy approach👆 (1)
1182194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-07T21:10:39.1190000-06:00its not hard, i used to do it all the time. the 2 new lasers will help with queue
1183385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-07T21:10:57.5220000-06:00I know @pearce.
1184194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-07T21:11:29.1040000-06:00increasing the cost isnt really the smartest, people are already sayinbg laser over charges
1185334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T21:33:37.5760000-06:00Supply and demand is one option, could increase supply by raising rates and driving people away to make lasers more available🤑 (1),😬 (1)
1186300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T21:34:59.6360000-06:00People produce things for sale throughout DMS. The guy who posted was being very polite about it and offered to run jobs in batches to prevent hogging the machine. This is exactly what I'd like to see all members do if they have big jobs👆 (2)
1187371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T21:35:47.5920000-06:00The MakerSpace as a whole allows people to profit from their activity at the Space. This is a good thing. For them and us.
1188371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T21:36:43.9150000-06:00It is a community of shared resources, so we need to help with the balance
1189300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T21:38:51.3420000-06:00I'm not in favor of a policy on limiting usage time, so I don't really see collecting data on "production jobs" as being beneficial
1190371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T21:39:19.2670000-06:00Judging and rating motives for projects is not a business I want to get into👏 (2)
1191334393967015755776agr00902017-12-07T21:44:49.4430000-06:00Could develop dynamic pricing, just like the new toll roads, longer line = higher prices
1192300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T21:46:48.8540000-06:00Brandon's full of ideas 😝
1193371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T21:46:56.2080000-06:00Toll roads are the high speed lanes. Other paths avail in that scenario. What's the equivalent in laser?
1194300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-07T21:47:24.2950000-06:00Just ignore him 😆
1195371416661040955403talkers2017-12-07T21:48:22.0080000-06:00But then he would install a digital coin op at 3am😋 (1)
1196371416661040955403talkers2017-12-08T09:18:12.8290000-06:00Who redid the C0² air lines at the lasers? They look great. Nice to finally have hangers too. Thank you!
1197300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-08T09:19:32.3380000-06:00Brandon 😀
1198300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-08T09:19:44.5310000-06:00Will do the same on the new ones👍 (1)
1199371416661040955403talkers2017-12-08T10:41:30.5990000-06:00Thank you @AGr
1200306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T19:44:46.4710000-06:00Actually there is a rule about commercial work and DMS can opt to charge for use of equipment. Charge whatever the commercial rate is if it is work being done during prime hours. If the person is stopping and allowing people to work that is one thing and being excellent - just tying it up for hours - that is differrent.
1201371416661040955403talkers2017-12-09T19:49:03.1970000-06:00Where is this rule documented?
1202300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T19:50:38.9610000-06:00I'd like to know as well @David Kessinger
1203385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T20:05:39.0120000-06:00@David Kessinger you posted your replies on the wrong committee/chat room.
1204306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T20:22:47.5710000-06:00I thought the issue was commercial work on the laser?
1205385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T20:27:46.9500000-06:00@David Kessinger yes the laser, but you posted your replies under general_chatter.
1206300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:39:20.8680000-06:00David your interpretation of that rule is pretty different than what I got out of it when that rule came about in October 2016. At the time the discussion was all about using copy paper, supplies, breaking things, etc. Thanks for your thoughts though, I'll keep them in mind.
1207300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:40:20.2290000-06:00Has that rule every been implemented before? We have members that cost the organization thousands of dollars in fees, have they been invoiced?
1208385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T20:40:36.5760000-06:00what fees?
1209300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:40:51.9550000-06:00not related to laser
1210385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T20:41:36.5430000-06:00OK. Still would like to know.
1211300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:42:10.3200000-06:00I'll talk with you about it next time I see you, not trying to derail discussion. Really wondering if the rule's ever been implemented at all.👍 (1)
1212385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T20:43:41.1370000-06:00Speaking of derailing: good things at Laser today. Will share once David is through...😀 (1)
1213306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T20:54:28.2410000-06:00Merrisa: You are the Chair of Laser, have you ever submitted anything to the BoD asking for commercial reimbursement?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389248473989644288/image.png?ex=67b93c64&is=67b7eae4&hm=60f7eb3e0c84a59e0e30ce0d00521d9aa22d2599bcc07396bc7595087559df6f&
1214300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:54:54.2110000-06:00no I have not, and I have never interpreted the rule that way. Hence my questions
1215300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:56:43.6320000-06:00how do I quantify an expense to DMS for laser usage? If they are paying for their time there is no cost to the organization, it's just inconviencing other members who want to use the laser
1216306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T20:56:54.3350000-06:00If you belive it is a problem, you can submit it to the BoD, if you don't think it is problem, then don't submit it. The discretion is given to the chair: "Determination of excess to be submitted by Committee Chairs and the member billed by resolution of the Board. "
1217300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:57:37.7520000-06:00So is there a reason you won't answer my question?
1218300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T20:58:44.7150000-06:00Trying to understand if there's a precedence here
1219306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T21:02:01.7250000-06:00DMS is not established as a cheap manufacturing source. When someone becomes a problem, which apparently it is becoming, then they can be billed if the Chair wants to take action. If you think it's alright for someone to have unlimited use for only $12/hr of run time and they deny usage to other members and don't believe that is a cost to members - that is your call as Chair. Just let the other members that can't get in to use it that it is just the way it is.
1220300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:03:15.4610000-06:00Should I stop asking if this rule has ever been implemented?
1221306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T21:08:51.4410000-06:00t hasn't that I know of. I believe some people that were becoming problems were talked to and it resolved. But the rule was clearly put there because there was a problem at some point. If people don't want to be reasonable then this is an option. Usage rules may be an issue that Laser committee wants address at their next meeting if it is becoming a problem. Reading this thread it appears it may be becoming so.
1222300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:11:19.8650000-06:00Thank you for your thoughts
1223306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T21:36:30.4480000-06:00If the rule hasn't been used (it hasn't that I know of) that doesn't prevent it from being implemented/used, the threat of it may be the deterrent that made it so it wasn't used. If it is now a problem, there is a rule empowering chairs with a way to deal with it. If you see me, Kris or any BoD member please speak to them also. I sincerely believe the BoD will support you, but at least for me personally, I prefer that chairs try to resolve it at their level, if it is then BoD action can be requested to support the Chairs. Having been a Chair, I preferred that the BoD have as light a touch as possible to permit maximum freedom. Only if I hear a lot of member complaints brought to me or other BoD members will it become a BoD issue. If you need support in formulating a policy I'm sure you committee and if requested, BoD members will attend if available to help.
1224300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:41:39.0980000-06:00Guess I need to go back to my original comment. People make things for sale throughout the space -- laser, woodshop, 3d fab, etc. If it's done in an a manner that is courteous to other members, it's not a problem.
1225300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:42:53.2040000-06:00I don't think its feasible to correctly track why members are making things (personal or "commercial"/"production" jobs), so then it'd be limiting time used
1226300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:43:34.0030000-06:00Which I've stated I'm not for, but if a future chair wants to pursue that I'd understand why 😃
1227300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:43:50.7970000-06:00I just don't want to create rules that we don't have a feasible way to implement
1228300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:46:13.1350000-06:00@stephenie what was the good laser news?
1229385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T21:46:58.3750000-06:00Oh, goody! Hold on...
1230306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T21:47:01.4920000-06:00I agree. People make things here for sale. I don't have a problem with that as long as their usage doesn't become excessive to the point that members are complaining. It's at that point it becomes a problem. Idon't think we are in disagreement. I only mentioned it because it is a tool that can be used by Chairs, many are not aware of it.👍 (1)
1231371416661040955403talkers2017-12-09T21:51:16.3800000-06:00Ah, It was added last year. Laser already charges per use.
1232385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T21:51:49.4890000-06:00It was a good afternoon in Laser today. Hobbyists making gifts. Queue moved. Everyone cheery, chatty and wanting to share their creations. I came in around noon(?), left around 3, came back because I forgot to pay (!!!!!!) and had to set things right, stayed until 6p-ish. So I had a good perspective on the day. Three people needed real help or they would have walked away unsuccessful and frustrated. They either had little experience on Inkscape/AI/RDWorks or the rotary. It was so nice to be there to lift them over whatever hump was in their way. You should have seen their faces. Relief co-mingled with success. Good day! Many happy users all around. So this got me thinking…😍 (1)
1233385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T21:52:23.5280000-06:00...the new lasers may make “office hours” possible. Set aside a regular night (monthly, every other week, weekly – depending on volunteer availability), reserve one of the Thunders for a couple of hours during prime time, and staff it with an experienced Laser user(s). Advertise it as “Office Hours” for anyone stuck or “not stuck, but nervous” about using the machines. No big jobs allowed on that laser, though we could advise on the software side and those users could get in the queue for the open lasers. If there’s a low period where no one needs help, we could let anyone with a short job jump on the reserved Laser.👏 (1)
1234300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:52:38.6940000-06:00yes, not an expense to DMS unless we want to consider "commercial usage" at a different cost per minute. But I don't think we can successfully do that
1235300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:55:16.7600000-06:00I like the idea Stephenie! The way I see it there is a huge need for more classes on design software (Inkscape, Adobe, etc) as that 's the big hurdle most people new to the lasers need to cross.
1236300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:55:54.5080000-06:00But help on the lasers themselves would be great also. I do hear a lot that people have taken basics, but just want someone there to help guide them the first time or two they run a job
1237385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T21:56:06.5350000-06:00I should add that @pinewoodnut has been stopping in at night to help users. This would be more official and consistent.
1238300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:57:05.1630000-06:00What I'd like to see is Laser Basics get finished on the DMS Learn site, then there could be hands on training nights like you're thinking to help folks who aren't quite comfortable enough on their own
1239385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T21:58:12.3750000-06:00Who is working on the Learn class?
1240300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:59:17.9290000-06:00another member who isn't involved in the committee anymore started the framework for it. I've tried to get going on it but I don't really understand the format of creating content
1241300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T21:59:43.9670000-06:00@AGr mentioned he could work on it
1242306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-12-09T22:02:10.5260000-06:00Get with Nancee @designcat. She's really helpful, knowledgeable, and great resource. She's helping Machine Shop
1243300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T22:04:02.1420000-06:00If anyone else wants to help we can make that happen. Previous chair Patrick made videos of the laser basics class with the intent of them being used for the online class. They should still be on the committee drive
1244385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T22:04:10.7880000-06:00While waiting for the online class, we could start out easy with once a month "Office Hours", first or second week of the month. I'd be willing to staff it once a month. Wait until the new year turns over.
1245300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-09T22:05:51.7760000-06:00That sounds good, but let's see how usage goes once all the lasers are up and running
1246385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-09T22:08:56.6190000-06:00Sure.
1247334393967015755776agr00902017-12-10T01:33:43.7910000-06:00"Do or do not, there is no try". There is no could work on it, either online laser basics is already complete by someone or no one is working on it.
1248371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T16:52:40.5250000-06:00Nancee and Tommy have done some work on the moodle class. They restructured it. We talked about it last week, or the week before.
1249371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T16:53:30.7160000-06:00If you ask on talk, you can probably get more video. A couple dozen folks have videoed me.
1250371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T16:54:53.9530000-06:00Re hands on classes. That one of the main goals of my box and tumbler classes. Walking thru all the steps, and giving people some time to try it.
1251371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T16:56:32.9120000-06:00Lots of folks take the class and are still intimidated. So "office hours" would be great. I help a lot of folks. It's great to see @stephenie and @pinewoodnut doing even more. @pearce continues to help too.
1252371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T16:57:03.6220000-06:00With office hours, people know they can come with their questions and problems
1253371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T16:58:07.6350000-06:00I'll work on some more project classes too. I have one planned for the Zing. Etching pens, dual layer plastic, and gift tags.👍 (1)
1254385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-10T17:35:47.3510000-06:00I'm thinking of doing a class about making jigs. I see a lot of people doing repetitive tasks that a could help with. Whether it's one off or a batch of things, they just save time and take very little effort to make👍 (1)
1255385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-10T17:40:01.4690000-06:00I'd be happy to help with the office hour concept once we have the new Novas online👍 (1)
1256371416661040955403talkers2017-12-10T17:44:01.3060000-06:00Jigs are a good idea. Troy mentioned making one for the rotary, for folks with multiple jobs.
1257300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-11T01:19:16.8150000-06:0012/10/2017 09:00 PM Trailer arrived at terminal in GRAND PRAIRIE, TX 😃
1258300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-11T04:33:40.4870000-06:0012/11/2017 01:31 AM Trailer unloaded at terminal in GRAND PRAIRIE, TX
1259371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T07:03:51.8740000-06:001:30am would have been a good time for delivery, lol
1260300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-11T09:29:34.9010000-06:0012/11/2017 09:13 AM Shipment out for delivery
1261371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T09:30:16.7510000-06:00Might be going to put on pants
1262371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T09:30:27.5200000-06:00Might be time*
1263109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T09:44:46.3310000-06:00@StanSimmons there's a delivery
1264109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T09:44:57.1280000-06:00doesnt look like anything we ordered lol
1265371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T09:45:07.7390000-06:00Lol
1266109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T09:45:19.6940000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389804854555705344/image.png?ex=67b9484f&is=67b7f6cf&hm=6290184818830d0a5d1ef9906a66b7d7cf155bb4bc0125f3fa87e7e921e83d5b&
1267371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T09:45:45.7470000-06:00Flat packed lasers?
1268109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T09:46:04.1730000-06:00Are they completely disassembled lol ?
1269109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T09:46:04.8220000-06:00whew
1270300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T09:47:30.4520000-06:00Hah dont think those are ours
1271109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T09:56:49.2380000-06:00Apparently it's cash on demand wood
1272334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T13:00:10.2760000-06:00Lots of deliveries today, I'm guessing thats the auto toolboxes in auto right now?
1273334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T13:07:13.7260000-06:004x6 or smaller sections of cardboard could be placed on laser scrap shelf (bottom shelf of laser white cutting mat table next to rollup door)
1274385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-11T13:19:40.9910000-06:00@merissa I won't be there for delivery or set up. Nick's 16th birthday!
1275300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T13:21:12.3350000-06:00Oh how fun! 16 is exciting! Hope yall have lots of fun celebrating!
1276385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T13:55:34.9560000-06:00The lasers have landedhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389867833263128586/JPEG_20171211_135517.jpg?ex=67b982f6&is=67b83176&hm=fbdef910689008443a27252f0eb41463f8a72c694cdbd7fdc2e469c5b1898ac9&
1277300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T13:56:12.9830000-06:00And uncrated. I hope someone is taking pictures!!!
1278300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T13:56:55.9920000-06:00Can they stay somewhere out of the way until this evening? Need to stay at work a couple more hours
1279300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T13:57:14.6640000-06:00Please keep the pallets too!
1280300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-11T13:59:32.1730000-06:00Yep, keeping pallets.👍 (1)
1281334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T14:11:01.9040000-06:00nice, looks like floor plan will work?
1282385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T14:15:34.4970000-06:00They are pushed into place
1283300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-11T14:16:12.7920000-06:00We can pull pics and vid from security
1284385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T14:16:48.8840000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389873175124639745/JPEG_20171211_141545.jpg?ex=67b987f0&is=67b83670&hm=015cf6422c23bbb485ef43c94e878141f2cf3ae8c8fd411904cc581e6990a79f&,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389873175690739712/JPEG_20171211_141612.jpg?ex=67b987f0&is=67b83670&hm=a40c2ea28737075dce13d752fdbe2aac605245a5b7ec40f7eff02f319006a718&
1285300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T14:18:17.7720000-06:00😍
1286385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T14:29:20.2860000-06:00I put signs saying we are working on final setup.... No date/time was givensloth (1)
1287334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T14:42:28.5300000-06:00We have a few gallons of water for chillers at home (required to power up and start testing mirror alignment), otherwise everything should be there to hook them up.
1288194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T14:43:21.6490000-06:00Are we using the compressors that came with them or shop air?
1289194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T14:44:00.0300000-06:00If shop air, do we have the 120v triggers?
1290194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T14:46:21.3850000-06:00We should be using the thunders control board to turn on the compressed air and blower. I still see too many people forgetting to use the switch.
1291300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T14:49:32.1920000-06:00Hoping that control works properly on these new ones. We tried to get the blower on the big thunder back to being controlled by the control board... It would turn the blower on but then it would fail to shut it off after
1292300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T14:49:56.1650000-06:00Testing the new ones will help troubleshoot the issue on the existing one
1293300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T14:50:20.0420000-06:00Preference would be no switches, all auto
1294385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T14:56:05.9890000-06:00There is some water up here, but bring more. For now, I'm just unwrapping everything and staging stuff👏 (1)
1295300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T14:56:38.5880000-06:00Sounds great, thank you David!
1296300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T14:57:00.8430000-06:00I have a few gallons of distilled water
1297385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T14:58:27.5200000-06:00I think there are about 2 gallons of distilled water here now
1298334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T15:12:19.6080000-06:00208v air solenoids to control shop air for air assist are already there and plumbed in for new lasers, everything should be automatically controlled assuming tl timer board works as expected on new lasers
1299194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T15:17:28.0520000-06:00Awesome
1300194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T15:17:43.9170000-06:00Chillers take around 2 gals each
1301194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T15:18:15.2370000-06:00Have to make sure the chiller is full after you turn it on and fill the laser tubes with water as well.
1302194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T15:18:28.1250000-06:00I might not be able to make it until late tonight
1303300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T15:19:11.0120000-06:00👍 I have four gallons and some bleach if we want to add some to prevent potential algal growth
1304385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T15:20:40.3560000-06:00Do we have any longer hoses for the chillers? The ones they sent are pretty short and I think the best place for the one by metal shop is by the co2 tank.
1305385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T15:21:17.7790000-06:00Either way, we need a door stop so the metal shop for doesn't smack the laser
1306194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T15:29:40.9270000-06:00Chuck graf or @LukeStrickland should have the bits to drill into the ground to install a floor doorstop
1307109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T15:29:58.9320000-06:00Yeah we have several masonry bits
1308109359055532732416clone10182017-12-11T15:30:05.4260000-06:00and leftover studs
1309334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T15:30:10.8340000-06:00dont have any extra chiller tubing, can you see what size / kind it is?
1310334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T15:31:57.6950000-06:00we could concrete anchor a 2x4 into the concrete, or we could stop by home depot and pick up one fo the 43 in stock door stops, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Satin-Chrome-Adjustable-Floor-Door-Stop-13559/203133718
1311334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T15:32:57.1100000-06:00Aisle 70, Bay 010
1312385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T15:41:28.3420000-06:00We need to sort out power too. The main power cable is a standard 3 pronghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389894481287184385/JPEG_20171211_154116.jpg?ex=67b99bc8&is=67b84a48&hm=fc4d703a9d6ae7ecfc33fee01143c74f0c5e9b319ab79eec165d84f6cd91739e&
1313334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T15:43:05.3650000-06:00thats annoying, was expecting c13 like other
1314334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T15:43:35.9960000-06:00there are extra 5-15p female in table, can just cut off c13 end of cable and put on the 5-15p
1315334393967015755776agr00902017-12-11T16:44:48.3080000-06:00Got some c14 to 5-15r adapters from altex, I'm assuming it won't draw 10 amps at 208v, adapters are 18awg
1316385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-11T17:04:43.7050000-06:00I was wrong. There is only about a half gallon of distilled here. The other is spring water👍 (1)
1317371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T17:05:14.7160000-06:00Check in Science
1318300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T17:06:14.3220000-06:00I should have enough that I'm bringing
1319300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:53:40.9110000-06:00First test cuts donehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389957951735070721/20171211_195307.jpg?ex=67b92e24&is=67b7dca4&hm=e525623a9cae685917b57cc6c0bc0ef56a893a1711851656e12e92e7ca0b8759&
1320300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:54:16.6400000-06:00On Blitzen... One nearest the back door. Checking switches on Donner
1321371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T19:54:29.5130000-06:00Is that a matte finish on the blue? Looks sexy
1322300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:54:57.1940000-06:00Think it's the same as before, just clean!!
1323371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T19:55:16.4310000-06:00Haha. What color do you want the vinyl? I'll cut it this week
1324300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:55:17.4850000-06:00These things are sparkly white inside
1325300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:55:27.5510000-06:00I already cut some
1326371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T19:55:28.1720000-06:00Take pics!
1327371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T19:55:35.0380000-06:00Excellent
1328300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:56:53.6450000-06:00Havent stuck in on yet, think this is where name will be placed thoughhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389958755540008963/20171211_195544.jpg?ex=67b92ee4&is=67b7dd64&hm=6e2b3f720733363a5687781ea05ee8b20ace118b4b6822284771f40229f2288c&
1329300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:57:08.5210000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389958822615056384/20171211_195553.jpg?ex=67b92ef4&is=67b7dd74&hm=463ec1369052491a8171da2586c799ec3b0d00540e0c23a9aefcdac9c9310674&
1330300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T19:58:25.4720000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389959145895493642/20171211_191133.jpg?ex=67b92f41&is=67b7ddc1&hm=068c32e1981265c00c4c2d1d1d5dbbbd4e7c7c38c056628f8a2839b76aaecacd&
1331371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T19:59:01.5780000-06:00Wonderful font😃 (1)
1332371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T21:16:10.4960000-06:00How goes the phew phew?!!
1333300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T22:53:23.4260000-06:00Blitzen is rocking, Donner is having issues
1334371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T22:54:24.3640000-06:00What kind of issues? @merissa
1335300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T22:59:12.4390000-06:00Wiring issues Brandon, Luke, and David are working on. Outside my realm of understanding to explain further
1336300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T23:40:20.6530000-06:00Anyone want to make us more focusing pucks?
1337371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T23:41:33.0860000-06:00Sure
1338371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T23:42:11.6590000-06:00I prob still have the design in my member folder
1339371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T23:42:33.7560000-06:00What a wonderful reason to need more
1340300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-11T23:43:10.6050000-06:00Wiring issues were fixed, so all lasers are operational! Trying to figure out how to set default settings in rdworks for new computers. Seems set to mirror images
1341371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T23:44:28.6940000-06:00X axis off
1342371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T23:44:33.8050000-06:00Y axis on
1343371416661040955403talkers2017-12-11T23:44:46.8430000-06:00So much win! Thank you all
1344194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-11T23:49:40.3400000-06:006mm not 5.5
1345371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:03:15.5520000-06:00K
1346371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:03:48.8730000-06:00Do we have the High Def lens and the long throw now?
1347300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:07:50.0240000-06:00Not yet
1348300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:08:31.0990000-06:00Mirroring thing fixed too. All good to go!
1349371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:08:32.1500000-06:00K
1350371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:08:41.0490000-06:00Yay
1351300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:08:41.7340000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390022128663134208/20171211_235656.jpg?ex=67b969e9&is=67b81869&hm=4de82972ad0d1aae7d1b52197a0dc83a3487da66e0c5f4f32778be8f0fba6da3&
1352300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:09:18.2900000-06:00@stephenie or someone want to post on Talk?
1353300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:09:57.8420000-06:00Just need them on the tool status board
1354371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:10:00.2390000-06:00You can pull the laser tracker off 😄
1355371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:10:16.0400000-06:00Great work everyone!
1356300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:10:17.6450000-06:00Oh haha! I forgot about that
1357371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:10:38.5600000-06:00Or leave it and brag
1358371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:13:22.7110000-06:00@merissa I'll post.. Who helped tonight?
1359300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:16:09.7270000-06:00David, Brandon, and Luke, and Stan received
1360300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T00:17:47.8940000-06:00(David Summers and Luke Olson)
1361371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:24:08.5970000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390026015679840269/Screenshot_20171212-002345.png?ex=67b96d88&is=67b81c08&hm=a2834ecab60cf28101361175a86921ddaa430216c0632c8b4a45156e3bae02f9&
1362334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T00:40:45.2970000-06:00Would be good to get feedback on if ventilation on each of lasers is good now, ie does it pull smoke out effectively
1363371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T00:56:38.1310000-06:00Some air monitors would be ideal 😁
1364300730152533360651.somecallmery2017-12-12T11:45:57.1660000-06:00Is Donner set up and running?
1365300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T12:10:44.4320000-06:00Yes! All lasers are ready for use 😀 Blowers start automatically on the new 35s, still have to use the switch on the big 63
1366300730152533360651.somecallmery2017-12-12T12:27:50.7980000-06:00I think there are network issues then. I can't login to the Thunder computer and Donnor computer doesbt have RDworks on desktop or internet
1367300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T12:29:39.6970000-06:00Eek. Sorry, might be my fault. I downloaded RDWorks to the computer yesterday thinking that would make it available for all, but maybe that only made it available for my login.
1368300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T12:30:03.9610000-06:00Not sure why it wouldnt have internet/network connection though
1369300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T12:30:37.4800000-06:00@StanSimmons are you available to check out the computer and see what's up?
1370300730152533360651.somecallmery2017-12-12T12:34:38.5700000-06:00I'm getting by by copying to disk and moving to memory
1371300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T12:36:21.2690000-06:00Looking to replace that computer with the same as the new ones since it seems to be the most troublesome
1372300730152533360651.somecallmery2017-12-12T12:36:52.7240000-06:00It cuts good though.
1373300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T12:37:46.4730000-06:00Wohoo!
1374334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T13:12:37.4400000-06:00An admin just needs to drag icon to public desktop on donner PC for icon to show up for everyone
1375334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T13:20:15.1500000-06:00Users could launch Rd works without icon by navigating to it's program files location and finding exe
1376334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T15:34:50.9810000-06:00Who could arrange getting electrician to install another light fixture in the corner of laser near red wall?
1377109359055532732416clone10182017-12-12T15:35:09.3650000-06:00Laser pays for it?
1378109359055532732416clone10182017-12-12T15:35:24.6090000-06:00We can call the people who did the LED replacement
1379109359055532732416clone10182017-12-12T15:35:40.5320000-06:00I'll call them for you if that's what you want, let me know.
1380334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T15:36:51.1000000-06:00@merissa
1381300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T15:47:36.6770000-06:00Are we concerned that it's too dark for the Zing?
1382300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T15:53:51.6830000-06:00Fyi...https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390259986837798924/Screenshot_2017-12-12-15-52-29.png?ex=67b99eaf&is=67b84d2f&hm=ecab74e67737ae741dc92fa8b705075a0c026cb19c63eca7a679af7959b8c4cc&
1383300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T15:54:20.4260000-06:00Laser is connected internally to the computer right?
1384300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T15:54:27.7210000-06:00@AGr
1385300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T15:55:05.2480000-06:00Could things have gotten disconnected after our test runs last night?
1386334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T15:56:29.5850000-06:00It's connected via USB (the dark grey cable going through floor conduit back around co2 cylinder then up into body), it looks unconnected because we unmounted usb b connector from face so that people cant unplug it. They should remove the ethernet
1387334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T15:57:16.3780000-06:00rd works was already installed just without an icon on the desktop
1388300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T15:57:34.4660000-06:00I dont understand why it wouldnt be communicating with the pc
1389334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T15:57:45.8210000-06:00Looking at cam its really dark in corner above zing
1390300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-12T15:59:15.9620000-06:00Yeah, we need good lighting at the Zing.
1391300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:00:20.6820000-06:00I didnt have trouble operating it last night, but more light can't hurt
1392334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T16:02:00.0440000-06:00DavidS knows about settings in rd works to tell it to connect over usb, I didn't look at how that is setup, they might have altered it by reinstalling rd works
1393194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-12T16:05:23.6500000-06:00Might not have installed the USB driver with the install?
1394334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T16:06:45.9340000-06:00It was working, unknown what plugging network cable in did to either internal state of laser or what changes they made to rd works, an admin (@merissa or @pinewoodnut) will have to look at it
1395300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:07:08.4780000-06:00That's how we sent test jobs last night
1396300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:07:31.2640000-06:00Seems like the network issues today caused confusion on the laser connection
1397300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:09:32.1130000-06:00@LukeStrickland that would be great on lighting, can you let me know how much they quote?
1398109359055532732416clone10182017-12-12T16:10:15.0330000-06:00Any rush on the service? He said he's running about a week out at the moment
1399300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:10:30.9860000-06:00Nope, that'll be fine
1400109359055532732416clone10182017-12-12T16:12:04.0750000-06:00ok I'll get a quote for you👍 (1)
1401300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:12:05.1900000-06:00Can anyone respond to Troy on Talk regarding the usb connection that's in place on Donner?
1402300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:13:34.3380000-06:00Can just copy and paste AGr's comment above
1403194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-12T16:14:31.8460000-06:00I posted my own but can change
1404371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T16:16:49.9830000-06:00To be clear, We want the Zing on the network so the other wheel chair accessible PCs can send jobs.
1405300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:26:04.9640000-06:00Will anyone be at the space tonight to take a look at things?
1406300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T16:26:57.4670000-06:00Spent a lot of time last night making sure the wiring was all correct on that one, so sad that there's an issue
1407334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T16:27:54.4880000-06:00@pinewoodnut the desktop link to rd works needs to be copied to public desktop folder
1408334393967015755776agr00902017-12-12T16:28:58.8350000-06:00and we should unmount the ethernet jack from the panel to prevent people plugging things in
1409385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-12T16:30:58.2560000-06:00I'll be at the space in a little while and check on things👍 (2)
1410385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-12T16:31:55.1800000-06:00I'll sort out the shortcut for rdworks.
1411371416661040955403talkers2017-12-12T19:16:11.0660000-06:00I'll be there tomorrow if anything is needed
1412385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-12T21:13:01.7600000-06:00The computer from Donner wouldn't register the laser using USB past a single reboot. For now, I worked with Stan and we swapped out the PC for a new one he had.👍 (1)
1413385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-12T21:14:25.3870000-06:00I got rdworks installed and tested it with a reboot and another user login. Everything went fine. Inkscape is installed, but we need to finish up the Illustrator install.
1414385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-12T21:14:53.8630000-06:00Someone was using it went I left. 😁💪 (1)
1415300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-12T21:20:10.2610000-06:00Sounds good. Thank you and Stan for working on it. We can see how that computer does and talk about keeping it or purchasing a new computer like the new ones we have
1416385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-12T22:38:07.9050000-06:00@merissa what font was used for the vinyl cut names?
1417300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T08:41:02.6180000-06:00I'm not sure... I'll have to check the file next time I'm up there ( probably Saturday)👍 (1)
1418385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T12:46:33.2040000-06:00@merissa I just saw that a Member Meeting is scheduled for tomorrow. Are you able to present on short notice? New business is re: classes and honorariums. Does Laser have a strong position on this issue?
1419300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T14:54:47.4290000-06:00Not sure yet if I can make it, will try. I have no comments/concerns on the honorarium topic. Anyone else have thoughts on this related to laser that need to be considered?
1420194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T14:56:17.1870000-06:00Not sure what laser specifically has to do with it
1421300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T14:57:50.1320000-06:00Me either, just checking though
1422300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T14:58:31.4480000-06:00If I can attend I'll give a brief update on new lasers
1423300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T14:58:40.3660000-06:00During committee reports
1424300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T14:59:52.4070000-06:00Regarding Donner issues, we're using the same usb cables on Donner as Blitzen. We can try a new one though
1425300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T15:01:36.6260000-06:00Now I'm wishing we had just replaced that computer from the start since that PC has always been problematic
1426334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T15:04:13.2990000-06:00I'm assuming today meant the newly installed computer david/stan setup last night?
1427334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T15:04:42.6990000-06:00There are supplied a/b usb cables in the black/yellow toolboxes on white table
1428334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T15:05:35.1560000-06:00couldnt hurt to make all the computers in laser the same, would only cost 2,000 out of ~7,000 laser balance
1429300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T15:06:00.6390000-06:00Yes I think Jorge was saying trouble happening today
1430300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T15:07:20.1440000-06:00Anyone have objections to standardizing the laser PCs all to the small Dell form factors like the two at the wall mounted desk?
1431194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T15:13:33.1020000-06:00Best idea
1432334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T15:48:24.6310000-06:00also interesting to note that with increased laser availability I would estimate should generate over $2,000 / month in usage fees
1433300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T15:52:54.2000000-06:00Which is great because if for some reason one laser ever breaks, we should have a reserve of funds to replace it
1434300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T15:54:02.4170000-06:00For now though more income can help buy more lenses and rotaries👍 (1)
1435385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T16:39:11.7830000-06:00Updated signs on bulletin board today. Posted new class schedule. Added a separate sign for the filepath to the virus-free RDWorks file on committee drive, plus words of encouragement to keep the queue moving by not designing on Laser computers. @john a gorman pointed out that Illustrator is available on computers in Digital Frontier and Creative Arts, so version 2.0 of that sign will include that info.
1436371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T16:50:38.0810000-06:00Standard PCs make maintenance much much easier
1437371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T16:52:37.9670000-06:00Merissa does not need to be present for the membership meeting, but should submit a report. Attending the meeting though would be good. @merissa did well pushing for the new machines and organising the space
1438300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T16:54:46.2610000-06:00I'd like to be there to get any feedback members might have, so going to try to make it👍 (1)
1439385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T17:40:55.5900000-06:00I'm not seeing any issues with Donner at this point, but moving to a single standard PC would be great. Do we replace the PC for Thunder too?
1440385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T17:42:33.2170000-06:00BTW,I thought we were keeping the 63 named thunder and zing named zing. The wiki is calling them Comet and Rudolph. Thoughts?
1441385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T17:44:42.6850000-06:00We had said Rudolph for the Zing during maintenance. Were we not serious about that? And I was proposing Comet, but that didn't get to Merissa in time. Let me go fix the wiki...
1442385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T17:45:12.1400000-06:00BTW, watching the camera today I never saw less than 2 Novas in use. Most of the time it was 3. For I while I saw all 3 AND Zing in use. 😁
1443385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T17:45:48.0120000-06:00ditto. I was there when all was in use.
1444385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T17:45:58.8060000-06:00We do need someone to install Illustrator on the new PC for Donner
1445385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T17:48:02.3810000-06:00Removed the one instance of Comet in wiki. Do I remove Rudolph, too?
1446385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T17:49:07.5100000-06:00I edited the wiki earlier to show all the Nova with 130 watt tubes. I had a few questions about them being 100 watt......that was my mistake a few weeks ago
1447194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T17:49:36.1360000-06:00Let's not rename the original 2
1448194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T17:49:48.3930000-06:00They are all 130w
1449385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T17:50:30.7260000-06:00So Rudolph goes back to Zing
1450371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T17:56:46.2550000-06:00I like giving the Nova 63 another name. Because we now have 3 Thunders. Comet works with the theme the team chose. Plus Comet is the baddest of all the crew.
1451109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T18:05:40.0660000-06:00All the lasers are being used right now!
1452109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T18:05:41.4880000-06:00Woo
1453385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T18:05:58.8770000-06:00I thought the theme was thunder and lightning, not reindeer. As for the best reindeer, I'm not even getting into that debate.
1454371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T18:07:01.7020000-06:00Lol
1455385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T18:33:16.3030000-06:00@pinewoodnut Thanks for bumping up the Talk request to update Tool Status Board.
1456385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T18:35:29.0990000-06:00Lisa's been quiet online lately, so I tagged Chris Marlow, too.
1457300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:35:47.1810000-06:00I labeled the big thunder "Thunder" just like the names on the new ones
1458300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:36:14.6610000-06:00Since "zing" is really big right on the front of that one I didnt think it needed anything else
1459385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T18:36:16.8710000-06:00Loved that font!
1460300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:36:35.7220000-06:00Yay! I played around with a few before picking that one
1461385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T18:37:05.6840000-06:00I admit to spending hours I will never get back in chase of the right font.
1462300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:37:34.2880000-06:00Me too... Way too indecisive
1463385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T18:48:13.5150000-06:00Can we pick a date for the next laser committee meeting?
1464371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T18:49:05.6190000-06:00Maybe we can meet at the maintenance day?
1465300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:49:16.8250000-06:00Just what I was going to say
1466300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:49:29.2910000-06:00I'll get it on the calendar tonight
1467371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T18:49:33.1130000-06:00I get lost in fonts
1468300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T18:49:37.4320000-06:00Finishing up at work
1469334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T18:53:59.6700000-06:00@LukeStrickland was someone doing something very dusty in main workshop 30 minutes ago? (6:15)
1470109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T18:54:26.4290000-06:00i wasnt there, was looking at cams
1471109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T18:54:32.1930000-06:00I'll be there in 15ish
1472334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T18:56:54.9230000-06:00blower/lasers have been going constantly with no increase in particulate, then it spiked to abnormally high levels
1473334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T18:56:58.8310000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390668458192404484/image.png?ex=67b9c99a&is=67b8781a&hm=98d58d5508a7286e46cd03c75d2f8d1c7e286135eb2a01da9722d31e90d82f43&
1474109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T19:14:20.8680000-06:00I'm gonna say yes
1475109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T19:14:26.0860000-06:00Based on the smell
1476194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T19:17:06.5120000-06:00laser smell or what?
1477300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T19:42:15.0090000-06:00Can someone respond to Jorge on Talk that he can pay the next time he's at the space (and thank him for fessing up). We dont support paypal because the funds no longer make their way to the committee
1478385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T19:59:49.1110000-06:00Done.
1479385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T20:01:21.4170000-06:00From Jorge : "Ok thanks. I feel like such a tool. I’m teaching Friday night so I’ll pay then. Thank you team laser!"👍 (1)
1480300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T20:02:00.3600000-06:00Thank you!!
1481371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:16:42.9200000-06:00We need to get a link to Square on the wiki
1482385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T20:26:19.5630000-06:00I thought we couldn't take remote/off-site payments?
1483371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:27:26.9180000-06:00We prefer immediate payments. But will settle for getting paid.
1484371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:27:57.5230000-06:00PayPal goes into one big bucket. It's not broken out by dept
1485371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:28:17.0340000-06:00Square is supposedly set to by committee and item
1486371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:28:49.4470000-06:00We should be able to up how much was paid for the Thunder vs zing for example
1487371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:29:20.0280000-06:00And even see how much was paid per day/week/month
1488385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T20:29:57.5060000-06:00That would give us another usage metric.
1489385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T20:30:06.5250000-06:00How do we get that data?
1490334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T20:56:16.7460000-06:00Robert runs our square account
1491371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T20:57:08.9280000-06:00Yes. That should be opened up more. But even finance has much access to it
1492385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:03:42.3820000-06:00@merissa, if you are not interested in digging into data and want to give me the OK, I'll approach Robert and/or finance for access.
1493300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T21:04:45.5230000-06:00What is planned to use the data for?
1494300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T21:07:50.7420000-06:00Brandon has been brainstorming a better laser firing time tracker
1495385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:07:58.5310000-06:00Knowledge. How often machines are used, demand patterns.
1496385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:08:17.1940000-06:00That works, too.
1497300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T21:08:29.4960000-06:00What came of the log in info from infra?
1498194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T21:08:35.8610000-06:00we had one on the saur that measured high voltage time
1499385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:08:42.1540000-06:00Nothing from Stan yet.
1500385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:09:29.4820000-06:00I've not been up to the Space for any significant time recently. Busy season.
1501194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T21:09:42.0290000-06:00and i think rdworks may log time. i do know it knows the difference between laser time and total time
1502385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T21:16:01.7770000-06:00Just leaving now. I've heard and seen members having issues with Thunder today. They run a job fine and then it won't run the next job. Loses the connection to the laser until you reboot the PC. I couldn't find anything specific, but a reboot worked. It will work fine for quite a while, then need to reboot between jobs. Then it starts working fine again.
1503300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T21:17:01.8560000-06:00On the 63?
1504385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:22:40.1640000-06:00See how confusing it is to call it Thunder?
1505385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T21:22:55.5350000-06:00The Talk thread is reporting the issue on Donner.
1506109359055532732416clone10182017-12-13T21:25:18.4140000-06:00e-z, change the name to "The OG"😄 (1)
1507194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-13T21:26:34.9830000-06:00its really not complicated
1508334393967015755776agr00902017-12-13T21:42:53.1980000-06:00Did anything show up in windows event viewer? I will try to repro it this weekend
1509300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T21:50:29.8010000-06:00Laser maintenance and committee meeting scheduled for Sunday 1/7 from 11 to 2
1510300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T21:51:02.3100000-06:00Will be looking for committee chair nominees 😃
1511385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:04:47.4180000-06:00The issue yesterday with Donner is fixed. I'll update that thread on Talk
1512385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:06:20.4770000-06:00The issue I'm talking about tonight is with Thunder AKA Nova 63 AKA "The OG"😆 (1)
1513300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T22:07:55.6400000-06:00What you describe on Thunder sounds like what Jorge reported on Donner today too, so that's why I wanted to make sure
1514300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T22:09:22.5080000-06:00Nothing has really changed about Thunder... wasn't unplugged/moved/anything. The cable got housed in a cord cover, but otherwise it's all the same
1515385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:10:45.4420000-06:00I didn't realize that Donner had that issue today.... Just read the thread
1516300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T22:11:42.7690000-06:00weird that the lasers with the older computers are having issues
1517385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:11:50.5390000-06:00Yes, it seems like the same issue
1518300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T22:12:05.3660000-06:00and I don't think anyone has reported that issue on Thunder before... so timing is weird
1519385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:14:50.7860000-06:00We can always switch to network instead of USB, but I know we haven't wanted to do that in the past.
1520385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:15:37.7700000-06:00I'm guessing it's to keep members from using rdworks from their personal machines
1521300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-13T22:20:32.0160000-06:00yeah don't want someone to be able to start a job like from the common room or something
1522385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-13T22:22:08.1270000-06:00I understand
1523385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-13T22:32:15.0640000-06:00Were OG Thunder's belts worked on during install? Pearce had mentioned on Talk that was the plan.
1524371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T22:36:14.1880000-06:00The zing requires physical presence at the machine to start a job. So folks can send jobs all day long, but they have to be selected at the machine to go
1525371416661040955403talkers2017-12-13T22:37:28.2820000-06:00The Thunders do have some safe guards, like you cannot start a job, or even load a job, if one is in progress. I do not know what other protections are in place.
1526385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-14T00:26:11.5170000-06:00To my knowledge, the belts have not been replaced yet. We talked about waiting until Donner and Blitzen were online. To me it really doesn't seem like a big issue unless you are trying to cut or make shallow cut lines at high speeds. Slowing down to something less than 300mm/sec works for me.
1527194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T00:34:47.8330000-06:00yeah its not getting done until they get fully online. just slow it down
1528300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T00:44:53.6520000-06:00Good thing to get done in January
1529371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T00:50:01.0630000-06:00It would be good to compare and chart the speeds and results now for each machine as benchmarks. We can then judge degradation on the machines over time.
1530189645236908064768themitch222017-12-14T09:52:31.2380000-06:00I want to thank the laser volunteers for getting the two new Thunderlasers, I know it was a lot of work getting everything setup.👍 (1)
1531189645236908064768themitch222017-12-14T09:53:52.1170000-06:00Any idea on the maintenance we need to do on the original Thunderlaser? Does the rotary attachment work now?
1532300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T11:37:48.0840000-06:00Rotary is working and can be used on the 63 or 35s
1533300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T11:39:15.3620000-06:00The big thunder should be working well, we cleaned and aligned it just a week or two ago. Planning to replace belts after the holiday.
1534109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:01:12.9040000-06:00@AGr did you update dallas.ms/air ?
1535109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:01:16.8060000-06:00or was that someone else
1536334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T13:02:11.0190000-06:00yes, moved some of the sensors around, surprised anyone knows that url
1537109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:02:21.6750000-06:00I monitor it sometimes
1538109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:02:27.8400000-06:00Did you remove the workshop / woodshop?
1539334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T13:03:57.3210000-06:00yeah they werent working in previous spots, so took those down
1540109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:04:31.2430000-06:00I'd like for them to still exist, how can I help get them back online?
1541109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:04:53.2020000-06:00I've reset the one in machine shop a couple of times
1542109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:06:40.8560000-06:00Honestly I loved the air quality sensors, wanted more of them and for the wifi to break less lol
1543334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T13:08:38.4150000-06:00Workshop one was on but not responsive, hadn't logged anything in 5 months, its currently in cardboard box under white laser table, was going to troubleshoot it later and repurpose it to directly monitor laser firing time. Could order more pis and sensors and build new ones, all the info is linked to from the air page
1544334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T13:09:04.8630000-06:00the pm sensor is well past its manufacturer rated lifetime
1545334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T13:09:55.2130000-06:00isnt there a new software committee or something? Could try and get them to take up making new ones
1546109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:10:06.3660000-06:00I'd rather just do it myself lol
1547109359055532732416clone10182017-12-14T13:11:25.1320000-06:00Wish rpi's were poe
1548385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:06:58.7110000-06:00@Robert replied to the question of having a way to remotely pay for laser time using Square: "I have met with chairs in the past and overall the idea is people need to pay on site at the time of service. Not pay up front or pay after the fact." . I've asked him to join us on discord to revi
1549385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:07:39.9020000-06:00I've asked him to join us on discord to revisit the issue since @merissa is not on Talk.
1550300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T15:10:13.5960000-06:00I've gotten data from Robert when needed, and I've found issues with the committee not getting all of its square payments for some reason. Robert is having the board/accountant try to correct it.
1551300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T15:11:16.1510000-06:00But going back to usage data, I think we should put monitors on the lasers to start gathering that
1552300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T15:11:46.4210000-06:00Brandon discussed a bit above about modifying the air sensors to use for this kind of purpose
1553385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:13:09.3230000-06:00I'm talking about a different issue that John raised yesterday on discord: having a way to pay for laser time after someone (Jorge, for example) leaves the property. @john a gorman wanted a link to Square on the wiki as a backup.
1554385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:13:33.9110000-06:00Sorry if that wasn't clear.
1555300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T15:14:52.1900000-06:00And I agree with Robert's comment. We want people paying onsite at the time of service. If they forget I have no problem with them paying the next time they're onsite as long as it doesn't become the norm
1556385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:15:45.6520000-06:00Then I'll tell Robert we're OK and not to bother coming over to discord.
1557385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:17:27.3900000-06:00@john a gorman See Merissa's response above.
1558385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:19:29.5070000-06:00@merissa Would you like a post on Talk announcing the Maintenance Day + Committee Mtg? With encouragement to candidates for laser chair? I posted a sign today on the bulletin board.
1559300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T15:22:29.3900000-06:00Sure that'd be great 😀
1560385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T15:48:36.4620000-06:00Done. And I tagged Ken to remind him of his interest in the gig.👍 (1)
1561300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T16:52:43.9160000-06:00Every time I pull up the camera feed all three thunder lasers are in use! So awesome 😃
1562371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T16:59:42.1100000-06:00That is. I wonder if it is demand that was already there that we were not meeting, or if more people want to use it now because they have a better chance of using it.
1563194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T17:00:07.5090000-06:00It's December. Usage always went up for holiday gifts
1564371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T17:00:18.6840000-06:00That too
1565300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T17:02:36.0400000-06:00Yes, and very glad they're finally here and available for people to make!!
1566371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T19:25:59.0880000-06:00We need to update the sign in sheet. It needs to be bigger, longer, and let them specify if they need the 63.
1567194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T19:28:54.2140000-06:00we need the individual ones back
1568194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T19:29:12.6330000-06:00they could have an "estimated cut time" on them too
1569385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:30:06.5350000-06:00Individual ones?
1570194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T19:30:29.0650000-06:00for each machine. at some point the zing and saur ones vanished
1571385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:30:42.3730000-06:00Understood.
1572300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:31:05.7590000-06:00Those two basically got destroyed so I threw them away
1573300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:31:45.6530000-06:00How do you propose we make them bigger? What would we make them out of/where would we put them?
1574300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:32:22.4950000-06:00I can make more like what's on Thunder for each one
1575385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:33:33.1460000-06:00Do we assume the RFID queue has a long lead time?
1576371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T19:33:39.1670000-06:00I like one big one. Most won't care which thunder
1577334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T19:33:48.0230000-06:00Or just have no queue and let people figure it out themselves😬 (1)
1578385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:34:04.1280000-06:00Thunderdome?😂 (1)
1579385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:34:10.6310000-06:00"Thunder"dome?
1580194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T19:34:12.2020000-06:00thumbderdome
1581300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:34:14.4630000-06:00It took eight months to make the storage kiosk when it already existed and just had to be recreated...
1582194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T19:34:45.0240000-06:00we can use an upside down basket for thumb wrestling cage matches
1583300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:34:53.2670000-06:00Hahahaa
1584385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:35:21.8200000-06:00I ask because that determine how much we want to invest into a system.
1585385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:35:40.2420000-06:00system being too strong a word, of course.
1586300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:36:01.4820000-06:00Paper versions require basically no investment:)
1587300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-14T19:36:27.6880000-06:00Pack of the plastic holders is like 15$
1588334393967015755776agr00902017-12-14T19:38:42.1810000-06:00What have people been doing so for this week regarding ordering when more than 3 want to laser?
1589385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:38:43.1080000-06:00What about a sign in board on the north wall by the zing? Make it really long. It's possible to get a sheet of melamine at Home Depot. Just spit balling here. There's not enough horizontal space on the plastic holder to write time and number and zing only or 63 only.
1590385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:39:08.7520000-06:00Or mount in on the back door. Still just spit balling...
1591385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:40:03.6870000-06:00One queue lets people move to the first free machine that meets their needs.
1592371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T19:40:07.8930000-06:00There can be a lot of confusion knowing who is next
1593371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T19:40:48.6410000-06:00One queue for the thunder is most efficient
1594385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:41:41.5370000-06:00@AGr they wait for the first machine to open up. Kind of like at some stores where the express lines or self check out lines are fed by one queue and you wait for a register to open.
1595385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T19:42:11.4440000-06:00See y'all at the member meeting...
1596371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T19:43:30.0520000-06:00I just watched three people trying to figure out who was next and who to message
1597385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T23:15:57.1910000-06:00A human-executed algorithm.
1598371416661040955403talkers2017-12-14T23:21:08.5920000-06:00Not a good algorithm
1599385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T23:25:16.9520000-06:00I feel like everyone needs remedial Laser Basics, with a curriculum update to reflect the new normal.
1600385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-14T23:25:27.1600000-06:00_sigh_
1601194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-14T23:35:06.8700000-06:00ive said that for years
1602334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T02:56:06.6240000-06:00https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h1BwW6vKVFvlVCy_TNBgAMIuLue8INfZENk8ZPTN_3s/edit?usp=sharing
1603334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T02:56:15.4700000-06:00Tried to describe a potential minimal viable system and use cases for a laser wait list system. Would only take a couple days to develop, but not sure it would be worth the effort. There are too many edge cases to implement a robust automated wait list solution. System doesn't work in cases of people not responding to wait list notification, someone showing up to empty laser and ignoring wait list, someone leaving laser and not checking wait list, someone getting notified and starting to use laser without removing self from wait list, not to mension user expectations being raised if they perceive it as a scheduling or reservation system
1604334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T03:02:37.2770000-06:00A system that only works if every single laser user follows a multi step process, and becomes completely useless if one laser user forgets a step seems not very helpful. Cant send notification to person on wait list unless previous laser user remembers to check wait list when they are done, so wait listed person would wait forever unless they physically walk up to laser and see its now open
1605334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T03:06:54.2790000-06:00If people standing there just need a way to say I was here first, we can just put up a take a number dispenser, and have a button that when pressed uses DMS intercom to say "Now serving next laser user" (since we assume they must be inside the building, message would not actually say the number, it would just be up to everyone with a number to run up to laser and see who had the lowest number, lowest goes next)
1606371416661040955403talkers2017-12-15T13:24:11.8070000-06:00No one on any of the lasers, lol
1607300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:03:40.2210000-06:00Questions... Why wouldnt we want rfid integration?
1608300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:04:24.3740000-06:00I'd love it if people couldnt enter the queue if their badge doesnt show they've completed laser basics
1609300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:04:54.7540000-06:00(or log into computers, but we're talking queue right now)
1610371416661040955403talkers2017-12-15T14:05:44.2380000-06:00I'm good with the idea of it.
1611385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T14:06:09.2100000-06:00I thought it wasn't in dispute that we're getting an RFID queue.
1612300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:07:19.1330000-06:00It will when Bill/Stan make it happen
1613300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:07:45.2100000-06:00Brandon's talking his idea right now that he could develop and make asap
1614300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:08:08.7370000-06:00(People have stated they'd make us an electronic laser queue as long as I've been chair)
1615109359055532732416clone10182017-12-15T14:10:36.7220000-06:00Everyone at DMS is full of well-intended false promises 😃👍 (1)
1616300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:12:32.1060000-06:00@AGr why no rfid?
1617334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T14:19:42.2180000-06:00"a potential minimal viable system", rfid would significantly complicate development and take more than 2 days
1618334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T14:21:02.3710000-06:00instead of a simple website with twilio that can be hosted anywhere, it would need to be hosted inside DMS and talk to other dms apis to read rfid data, and then it wouldn't be a simple kiosk, would require hardware level integration with usb reader to have a better experience than having key swipe just put keystrokes into a browser window
1619300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:21:29.9970000-06:00Ok. Maybe in a future version?
1620300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:21:37.4750000-06:00Or maybe not
1621300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:22:04.8210000-06:00Next thought... I don't think this needs to be publicly viewable
1622300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:22:13.0300000-06:00We have the cams for that
1623300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:22:32.9530000-06:00Just need something you see in the laser area
1624334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T14:26:04.2230000-06:00My question was if its worth developing anything at all, given the fragility of such a system (requires person finishing a job to take action to function) and unknown demand going forward
1625194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T14:27:37.4290000-06:00Just lock the PC's to the laser basics people
1626194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T14:27:52.3090000-06:00Like the multicam user groups
1627300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:28:20.0890000-06:00Was that something infrastructure made happen?
1628371416661040955403talkers2017-12-15T14:30:02.4870000-06:00The only reason I want RFID is to help manage the queue. I don't see another reason for it
1629300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:30:35.9160000-06:00And Brandon I agree, so many things that could make an electronic queue fail because we know we cant expect all users to follow instructions
1630300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:31:00.6970000-06:00That's why I'm pretty ok with the written system now
1631300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T14:31:36.2380000-06:00John you dont think restricting laser usage to laser certified members is a good reason?
1632371416661040955403talkers2017-12-15T14:33:05.6710000-06:00I don't think it's a problem we should spend effort on
1633194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T14:34:08.4590000-06:00Not much effort in making the security groups
1634334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T14:42:53.4360000-06:00not much effort creating the groups, significant effort managing group membership
1635121823075548266496shdragon2017-12-15T14:49:43.6910000-06:00If we're sticking with the written thing, could I at least put in a request for some more fine tipped pens to write our names and numbers down for the... good-handwriting-challenged like myself?
1636385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T15:01:28.9720000-06:00There a box of fine tipped pens in the drawer. Don't put them all out at once. One should be out right now.
1637300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T15:43:54.5540000-06:00I'll try and make sure there are always some on hand too
1638300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T15:45:22.4810000-06:00I had them stuck with velcro to each list initially which seemed to keep them from disappearing, so maybe will try that again
1639188805445090017280techd842017-12-15T18:54:00.1050000-06:00what about doing something like the paper one we had but with strips of something that we can use dry-erase markers on and have magnets on the back, so when you walk up you grab a strip and add it to the bottom of the list. If some one finishes or bows out of the queue the list can be sifted.👍 (2)
1640194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T18:56:21.2300000-06:00That's a much better method that erasing and rewriting like I do
1641385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T18:58:41.8540000-06:00There are not enough thumbs up for that!
1642188805445090017280techd842017-12-15T18:58:45.8650000-06:00I have walked up to it befor and seen it be 4,5,3,1,2 we where alll wondering who was next
1643385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T19:00:46.3020000-06:00Can we cut melamine on the laser? Get a small sheet from Home Depot, make strips, afix magnets...then stick it on what surface?
1644188805445090017280techd842017-12-15T19:03:11.0890000-06:00someone could bend a thin sheet of mettal and put it maybe somewhere near where the old plastic one is/was
1645194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:06:14.2190000-06:00They make magnet strips that you can dry erase
1646194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:06:46.5490000-06:00We use them at Polyprinter for a list similar to what you described
1647194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:07:49.7020000-06:00https://www.amazon.com/Erase-White-Magnetic-Strip-Magnet/dp/B003BCYWL2👏 (1)
1648188805445090017280techd842017-12-15T19:10:16.3110000-06:00yep something like that
1649194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:13:50.8330000-06:00Cut to size. We could grab a plate of steel and plasma cut something up top and mount it to a wall
1650194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:14:05.5600000-06:00If we wanted to get fancy with it
1651194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:14:43.0150000-06:00I'm sure there's a plate in metal that Chuck would let laser have
1652194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T19:16:18.0760000-06:00I could back light it with LEDs too
1653385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T19:19:42.7950000-06:00LEDs? Game over.
1654334393967015755776agr00902017-12-15T19:24:13.7470000-06:00Good idea, found a 2"x10' roll on amazon with one day shipping, will have it at DMS tomorrow
1655385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T19:29:22.8860000-06:002" or 1"? 2 inches seems wide.
1656188805445090017280techd842017-12-15T19:34:20.2580000-06:00i wish there was a 1.5"
1657385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T19:47:09.2580000-06:00Someone said there were 9 users in the queue at one point. If that's to be believed, board needs to be over 18" tall?
1658300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T21:49:42.4460000-06:00Amazing idea @Techd84!
1659300083517877125121andrew51522017-12-15T22:09:17.7630000-06:00SIARPC Lab Boardhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391441632253313024/s1407-celebrity-board-list.png?ex=67b94ded&is=67b7fc6d&hm=67e3e926ff9c95075c38c7539cd623ef19e07f3f3f0d5847a884eba322c6c572&
1660300083517877125121andrew51522017-12-15T22:09:34.5980000-06:00Something like seems like a lovely idea...
1661385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-15T22:10:50.7290000-06:00Where to put it? Move the small cabinet somewhere and use that spot?
1662300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T22:11:59.0630000-06:00Or might fit next to it and the tombstone
1663300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-15T22:12:11.9780000-06:00Will have to see how big it ends up being
1664194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-15T22:12:23.4170000-06:00could do it above the tombstone and use the stone as the base platform
1665300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-16T21:02:23.7630000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391787176796356619/20171216_205358.jpg?ex=67b93e3e&is=67b7ecbe&hm=8c8f51e099b26a582b01ecc948d6fa992fd29ab2db1e0b54243035add7f05fe7&
1666300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-16T21:02:45.4810000-06:00New queue coming along. Magnet strips on the way
1667300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-16T21:06:08.5020000-06:00Also the font I used for the laser names is called Nulshock, downloaded from dafont.com
1668300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-16T21:26:57.6930000-06:00The blower on Thunder (Nova63) starts automatically now when you start a job :)
1669300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-16T21:27:35.8720000-06:00So the only laser requiring manually flipping the blower switch is the Zing
1670300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:12:43.8070000-06:00What is the link to the cameras looking over the lasers?
1671300083517877125121andrew51522017-12-16T22:18:30.0520000-06:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/cgi-bin2/cam?cam=laser
1672300083517877125121andrew51522017-12-16T22:18:50.6290000-06:00I like that queue board!
1673300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:19:26.2780000-06:00Did we leave at least a foot between the Zing and the wall? It has to have a foot clearance to be able to access the right side for regular cleaning so you can get the controller and side cover off.
1674300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:19:41.9360000-06:00Same for left side.
1675300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:21:54.2180000-06:00Doesn't look like there is room.
1676300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:22:34.5240000-06:00It can't be up against the wall.
1677300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:23:32.5260000-06:00Need to move it to the left. Hope there is room.
1678300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-16T22:27:14.2950000-06:00Thanks Spencer
1679371416661040955403talkers2017-12-16T23:15:03.0010000-06:00The zing needs to be swapped with the Thunder for access and teaching.dms (1)
1680371416661040955403talkers2017-12-17T00:37:12.3750000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391841242423492618/IMG_20171217_003500.jpg?ex=67b97098&is=67b81f18&hm=d17eeae5f150481ec738de568543cc8f7e8dd4e29c53c4e86c30ea35a491ea08&
1681371416661040955403talkers2017-12-17T00:37:50.2030000-06:00Beautiful. Thank you @AGr
1682300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T00:55:22.0890000-06:00There is room on either side of the Zing, didn't see the message to measure when we were still at the space
1683300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T00:55:51.9780000-06:00due to the size of the Nova35 and the location of the blower, the Zing has to stay in its current location
1684300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T00:58:19.2270000-06:00I'd recommend that we unplug the zing and take it outside to clean all the dust out from the side panels when that's needed. Blowing it out into the laser area just moves the mess elsewhere and means people have to breathe it in... not good
1685334393967015755776agr00902017-12-17T01:55:51.2150000-06:00wow, delivery people working overtime, the dry erase magnetic strip roll was delivered at 12:31amhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391861034639556610/image.png?ex=67b98307&is=67b83187&hm=24c31a059c8b9eab3f5b36cb527bc143638371bcb8a0f58353d2f1eebc894f6c&
1686371416661040955403talkers2017-12-17T02:17:40.0970000-06:00? I didn't see it before I left, lol
1687371416661040955403talkers2017-12-17T02:17:44.8410000-06:00Crazy though
1688300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T07:34:23.6080000-06:00Merrisa, Having to take the Zing outside to clean isn't very realistic. We can just use the vacuum plus air and that should avoid dust well enough. It seems to need cleaning frequently. The zing only needs to move to the left away from the wall. As along as there is room on the table to do and the exhaust hose is flexible enough to slide it, that it should be ok.
1689334393967015755776agr00902017-12-17T12:39:30.2010000-06:00Disconnect one hose clamp, power, Ethernet, interlock, air assist. Slide forward onto hydraulic lift table, cart it outside. Easier to move it than clean it in place
1690300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:07:51.4370000-06:00AGr, I totally disagree because of all the steps you listed. Also, having to disconnect stuff, move it outside and then back inside and reconnect everything frequently is just asking for problems. I will continue to clean in place with air plus vacuum to catch the dust. Also, keep in mind that I'm not talking about cleaning out the grid box that way. The grid box comes out and can be emptyed and cleaned over a trash can. It is all of the other mechanizms such as the recently failed-due-to-dirty limit switches in the right side that need cleaning. However, since it doesn't have a compressed air nozzle blowing in the vicinity of the lens to help move soot into the suction of the air outlet, it seems that it gets dirty really fast and needs more frequent cleaning than the other lasers. Certainly the lens needs more frequent cleaning because of this.
1691385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T13:10:22.0870000-06:00How often do you recommend this cleaning? @pinewoodnut has been advocating for a regular cleaning schedule.
1692300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:12:06.9540000-06:00I'm not sure how often. It just seems to be really dirty when I use it. A regular cleaning schedule for all lazers sounds like a good idea. Maybe monthly? What do you think?
1693300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:14:13.7220000-06:00This is kinda the same issue as dust collection in the Woodshop except that users are expected to empty the bins themselves. Cleaning lasers may require special training for the scheduled cleaning crew vs. just letting users do it (which I doubt they will do very often).
1694385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T13:17:53.3270000-06:00@merissa has scheduled a January Maintenance Day and seems like everyone is on board with a monthly cleaning. But if Zing needs more frequent attention, that flag needs to be raised and an alternative schedule for it proposed. The guidelines clearly state only authorized maintenance folks have any business cleaning, repairing, maintain lasers. So no worries there.
1695385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T13:18:36.0780000-06:00@merissa Any recommendations to updating this list: https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee#Authorized_Maintainers
1696385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T13:18:55.8780000-06:00I see Beau is not on it. I believe you've told me it's out of date.
1697300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:34:56.7030000-06:00Yes, please include me in any Laser Maintenance discussions/groups. I've done a lot of the maintenance work on the Zing in the past including, belts, new laser, alignment, and so on. I haven't done any work on the others but I'm willing if needed. It's just that the Zing covers 95% of what I need to do with the Lasers so I tended to focus on it.
1698300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:36:20.2430000-06:00As for Zing cleaning frequency, let's see how a monthly cleaning works out. I'll bet that a monthly cleaning will be sufficient but we can keep a close eye on it to make sure.
1699300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:36:36.7350000-06:00What day/time in January so I can put it on my schedule?
1700300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T13:38:39.3020000-06:00Sunday, January 7th 11am-2pm
1701300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T13:46:43.1460000-06:00OK. Marked on my schedule. See you then if not before.👍 (1)
1702300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T13:47:49.7730000-06:00We can scrap the old "maintainers"list and recreate at that meeting👍 (1)
1703194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-17T15:20:49.4810000-06:00@gbeauw I suggest seeing the zing in person. It's much farther away from the wall than it looks. And it has plenty of room to move around on the table. I cleaned the side you are worried about without moving it from it's current position
1704300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-17T15:49:24.9540000-06:00Great. It is hard to tell from the camera. Thanks, Pearce. I've been tied up with teaching a Morse Code class but that is over now. I should be able to come out soon to say "hello" to it in person.
1705300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:26:38.2540000-06:00Just realized I forgot to count the cash box yesterday, and I dont think I can get back up there today. Finance wanted all boxes counted by Monday 😕
1706385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T16:29:45.1870000-06:00@merissa How long does a count take typically? I live 15m away and have a flexible schedule. Can definitely find a 2nd person for oversee the count.
1707300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:32:06.3520000-06:00About half an hour, there are forms/slips/bags near the finance drop box. And Jayson Woods has been great helping me the past couple times
1708300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:32:58.0070000-06:00He knows the process and what to look for. I can send him a message asking if he'll be around tonight
1709385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T16:33:33.9420000-06:00Are there keys needed to get into the box?
1710194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-17T16:33:49.8800000-06:00There's drills😝 (2)
1711300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:33:59.8310000-06:00Yes, infrastructure would have to get you access to the keys
1712385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T16:34:10.7810000-06:00aka @StanSimmons ?
1713300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:34:27.8470000-06:00Yes 😀
1714385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T16:34:58.6790000-06:00Send Jayson a message.
1715385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T16:37:00.8740000-06:00I am experienced counting large sums of cash from scout, ptsa, church fundraisers. Up to $2K. I've a got a counting sheet, having done it often enough.
1716300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:39:11.1080000-06:00I'll let you know if he's available. Always best to have at least two people do it so can check each other's count
1717385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T16:47:24.6800000-06:00I wouldn't dream of so much as opening that box without a 2nd person on hand. A third is even better. My reputation is at stake. And all counting will be out in the open.👍 (1)
1718300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T16:55:43.7260000-06:00Sounds like he's not available till tomorrow night
1719385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-17T17:21:13.3270000-06:00Too bad.
1720300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-17T21:05:36.0250000-06:00I'm in Bryan/College Station tonight. I'll be back Monday evening.
1721300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-17T21:38:00.8540000-06:00Thanks Stan. Sounds like we might not make it for tomorrow
1722371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:17:34.3430000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392198689164230666/IMG_20171218_001639.jpg?ex=67b96bfe&is=67b81a7e&hm=ea681b335579e125d778fa92b0a352e41f8a5730791c159462fd88ba40792ae6&
1723371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:17:40.0180000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392198713583468554/IMG_20171218_001652.jpg?ex=67b96c04&is=67b81a84&hm=b52c07ee9086ef616d8df84c25d4a2fad2e9b13efc63184befb659b735fe56cd&
1724300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T00:19:55.0700000-06:00What are we looking at?
1725371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:20:13.5840000-06:00Donner burned out a lens. Frankie was using it. It was cutting well. Then he noticed it was smoking.
1726371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:20:42.1910000-06:00The compressor is running
1727371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:21:28.1110000-06:00Frankie pointed out that the burn is off center. Maybe that was generating heat?
1728194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:21:49.5060000-06:00No it can be off center
1729371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:21:56.1630000-06:00K
1730194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:22:03.9710000-06:00Can you leave it in the holder?
1731194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:22:15.7550000-06:00It could have been flipped over
1732194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:22:40.4150000-06:00It's not off center enough to have caused that
1733371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:23:23.2440000-06:00Should I mark Donner as down so you can look at it tomorrow? We have extra lens, right? If so, I can switch it out
1734194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:23:49.2050000-06:00It either had stuff on the lense that blocked the laser or wasn't tight enough and slipped down onto the stuff being cut and didn't let the air escape the nozzle
1735194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:24:20.8340000-06:00It's possible the single tap can't pump out enough air to run 4 lasers at once.
1736194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:24:42.5680000-06:00Either way we should contact thunder about it
1737300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T00:25:44.1980000-06:00Please mark it as down for now
1738371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:27:37.5640000-06:00Pearce, do you want to contact Thunder? tech@deleted-role.com
1739194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:28:43.7330000-06:00I don't know what happened with it or what was done for setup on it, I don't know that I will help much with that
1740371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:34:41.7390000-06:00Frankie says the lens tube didn't move. For thing he checked was the focus.
1741371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T00:36:10.1120000-06:00He says it was warm, but not really hot when he checked it. He was doing 2min runs, so not really an extended job.
1742194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:45:53.5740000-06:00I mean the lens could have slipped on another job, gathered soot, and burned up on him from unfortunate timing
1743194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T00:51:44.6290000-06:00I'm suggesting contacting them because this close to installation it could have been a manufacturer defect
1744334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:13:24.7020000-06:00to test that air assist solenoid is opening, can lower bed completely, fire short job with lens off and the air assist line off in back (push in white collar on fitting and pull blue tube out, to reconnect just push it in) , will be able to hear that its triggering air assist solenoid or not
1745371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T01:14:56.7970000-06:00I have already left. I'll check tomorrow if someone else has not
1746334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:20:26.4780000-06:00My guess is the plug going in to laser to power air assist vibrated out. (I noticed those plugs were not very tight the other day, and one was almost touching ducting which vibrates). Could wrap electrical tape around outside of c14 plug (to expand diameter) for exhaust fan and air assist and jam them back in so they cant fall out. There is electrical tape in cardboard box on top shelf of laser cutting mat table.
1747334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:25:04.8070000-06:00To double check that machine is attempting to turn on air assist visually can look at the two relays on the right side of the machine, the green led means its turning on the relay. The top relay is air assist, the bottom is fan exhaust
1748334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:25:14.8890000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392215720320303104/3V7TgEbOH8DK1nFZGxE0O-c9bBbVbrM1BP5TMkRIMbOb2iyKjQQ5nXAUy2FvXVnxL1j5XvprYIdxsAoEbWlg91tOeS1Sb5Gg40_X.png?ex=67b97bda&is=67b82a5a&hm=d3e18ec56f114afe88e4143ef1f420a5c07d4984ddca40baa8c8d44291f4c13b&
1749334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:25:56.3680000-06:00Inside right door of laser, relays are under main contactorhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392215894383919114/6heXJwU8e4UGGqoAo60L1u6vTdhs4rCGt-KE7md1b56GOxE4xMNdgqzNdzSVHrqCQoOT82W8i1pCHmtEmjkjGEEDypZ0liqI9EsJ.png?ex=67b97c04&is=67b82a84&hm=d4e297b84ffbd843c9c79d7ecbc229e22e2a80a50f78ccbe14d840fa305e7df5&
1750334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:26:50.0670000-06:00obviously dont touch anything when opening door while laser is plugged in
1751334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T01:46:53.0450000-06:00Other thing to check when evaluating if its turning on air assist is what the effect of the If Blowing selection is in rd works. I haven't verified but it may be possible to disable air assist in the software (if that is possible, we may consider rewiring that relay so its not possible to control that from software)https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392221165327745025/image.png?ex=67b980ec&is=67b82f6c&hm=5d95037f727921fe5dcaa95feb4c907aca440c5d22d802e6c23d1adf3bf3e1da&
1752333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T13:25:15.2710000-06:00Does the zing work with rd world?
1753333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T13:25:47.4000000-06:00I have a bunch of smaller wood pieces I'd like to laser and the two larger ones feel like overkill but I'm not as familiar with the zing
1754194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T13:26:13.3080000-06:00no it uses its own software
1755194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T13:27:20.5470000-06:00just use the smaller nove 35 lasers, we got them so people could do smaller tasks
1756300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T13:30:50.4140000-06:00What Pearce said, but the zing is pretty easy to learn if you want to go that way. If you post about day/time you'll be there and need some help on it I bet someone will help walk you through it
1757333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T16:02:04.3190000-06:00It's been a while since I've done anything with the lasers ... We got new ones?
1758300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T16:03:00.2080000-06:00Yes! They came in and we got them fired up last Monday. One is down with a broken lens right now though
1759300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T16:04:15.8680000-06:00So currently have the big Thunder Nova63, the smaller Thunder Nova35 we named "Blitzen", and the Zing available for use
1760333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T17:05:37.2860000-06:00And that one works with RDWorks?
1761333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T17:06:20.7280000-06:00Is there a manual got it on the wiki? Or do I need to take the class all over?
1762194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T17:07:05.0320000-06:003 use rd works
1763300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:10:13.9480000-06:00The new Thunder Nova35s use RDWorks and operate just like the existing Thunder
1764371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T17:10:17.9380000-06:00They work the same as the large one
1765300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:10:49.6440000-06:00So if you've taken laser basics on that one then you're good to go
1766333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T17:11:27.2120000-06:00Gotcha
1767333297925851578379pseudonym012017-12-18T17:12:11.1920000-06:00It's been a bit so i might put out the call for assistance on Talk
1768300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:12:55.3810000-06:00You'll see that the laser area looks a little different now. The big thunder is still in the same place. The Zing and one of the 35s are operated by two new computers on the back wall (one near the door operates the 35, one near the corner operates the Zing)
1769334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T17:42:44.0390000-06:00Do we have extra lenses? I can look at Donner tonight if its still down
1770194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T17:43:45.9560000-06:00ill be up later as well, but i think we should keep it together for as long as possible to see what thunder says about it
1771194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T17:44:09.2700000-06:00this shouldnt have happened this fast
1772300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:44:34.5040000-06:00We do. @john a gorman didnt you say you have them locked in the classroom storage bin? We need to mount the key lockbox so all laser supplies are accessible to the committee
1773300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:44:58.0650000-06:00Agree Pearce, really disappointed :(
1774300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:45:28.9570000-06:00Took less than a week
1775300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:46:12.0130000-06:00@AGr can we mount the lockbox on the wall behind donner?
1776334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T17:47:24.8280000-06:00where is the classroom storage bin?
1777300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:47:33.8590000-06:00Or maybe on the wall by the zing
1778300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:47:51.0330000-06:00One of the lockable personal storage bins I think
1779300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:48:54.4540000-06:00@AGr also what did we do with the extra metal scrap from the queue?
1780334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T17:49:05.7670000-06:00yeah can mount lockbox and put keys in it
1781334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T17:49:17.9870000-06:00There wasn't much, I think I put it on donation shelf
1782334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T17:49:40.8950000-06:00was a ~6"x24" piece left over
1783300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:50:25.8700000-06:00Ok... Might pick up some more to finalize the sign a bit along with the magnet strips
1784300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T17:51:21.4070000-06:00@pearce do you know what time you'll be up?
1785194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T17:53:11.3920000-06:008 or 9
1786300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T18:14:13.4280000-06:00Sounds good. Think Brandon will be there around the same time. I likely can't make it up tonight but if yall find anything we need to report to Thunder just let me know and I can handle that
1787385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T19:03:14.7180000-06:00Should we check Blitzen to see if it has any impending issues? I'd like to head off anything else before it becomes an issue.
1788194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T19:05:35.4580000-06:00yeah ill look
1789371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T19:35:46.8730000-06:00I was unable to log on to the PC by the zing
1790371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T19:35:58.8290000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392490212095164427/IMG_20171218_190938.jpg?ex=67b929fe&is=67b7d87e&hm=4f895217fbee98a1bff1f53e16a813ffa9abfe52565a919feeceadfcc9c860a9&
1791371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T19:36:16.3790000-06:00Something about not the right domain?
1792300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T19:36:21.0200000-06:00Is it just your login or everyone's?
1793371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T19:36:28.9140000-06:00I do not know
1794300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T19:36:41.3250000-06:00Will need to get infrastructure on it
1795371416661040955403talkers2017-12-18T19:36:50.1290000-06:00I finished my class and had one to attend
1796300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T19:39:03.5370000-06:00Just posted in the infrastructure thread asking for help
1797385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-18T20:54:15.1440000-06:00@StanSimmons should be back in town tonight, per his previous comment.
1798194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T21:23:51.3280000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392517359673278464/JPEG_20171218_212335.jpg?ex=67b94347&is=67b7f1c7&hm=bc2e018bd971e374472a908c2c102ca926ec9042a966a3d2b81aff70c3cf2ba1&
1799194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-18T21:24:08.0030000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392517429789589524/JPEG_20171218_212359.jpg?ex=67b94357&is=67b7f1d7&hm=da3f4a6fa85934d507c85b6cded08a6e04d324653a57a7cddbe16f72ddf0b5c5&😬 (1)
1800334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T21:40:54.2540000-06:00Confirmed that If Blowing no it disables air assist
1801334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T21:41:09.8440000-06:00I will rewire them to disable that feature
1802300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T21:44:04.4290000-06:00Was that the default setting and what was going on?
1803300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T21:45:26.8520000-06:00I still dont understand why that's even an option in the software 😑
1804385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:12:59.0560000-06:00There are some jobs that you MIGHT want to turn off air assist, but only if you REALLY know what you are doing. We should just prevent that as an option for our members.
1805300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:14:15.3100000-06:00Agreed
1806385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:15:36.0980000-06:00We changed to the small diameter air nozzle and that should give higher flow and hopefully prevent further issues. I got a lot of stuff off the lense from Blitzer, but it's looking good now.
1807385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:17:05.5380000-06:00@merissa can you get a quote from thunder for a full set of replacement lenses for all 3 types: standard/hr/4 inch
1808300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:17:19.3700000-06:00Think the air hadnt been going on that one either?
1809385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:18:18.1790000-06:00It had the same large nozzle, but I swapped it too
1810385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:19:25.1330000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392531342635827200/20171218_194722.jpg?ex=67b9504c&is=67b7fecc&hm=589b42bceb86d159bf931a38a77c4cdf90dceca20797467b848bf93aa8e5ac8a&
1811385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:19:36.5380000-06:00It was very dirty
1812385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:19:56.9100000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392531475482017793/20171218_192629.jpg?ex=67b9506c&is=67b7feec&hm=16cec0fa953e66fb725a5484684fa08e4467868bd527c3719cd182d5ec36f81f&
1813300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:19:59.5350000-06:00Eek
1814385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:20:36.1860000-06:00But like I said, the lense looks good now and it has the small nozzle
1815300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:20:54.9950000-06:00Awesome, thank you
1816300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:21:09.1510000-06:00I will get info on the lenses
1817300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:21:34.8130000-06:00Is the Zing computer working for folks now?
1818385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:22:21.3670000-06:00About the lenses. I talked with @@pearce and we would like a set of them from thunder. Then we can try to sort out generic.
1819385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:23:30.5430000-06:00All the computers are having network issues. Something with Infrastructure, not the machines. Brandon logged in as local admin on the 2 new ones for now so people can work.
1820385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:24:00.3520000-06:00Some people can login to Thunder, but no one seems to be able to get to Donner
1821385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-18T22:25:31.0620000-06:00Headed home. I'll try to keep up on discord, but busy week ahead at work. Good luck to all.
1822300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:25:57.4060000-06:00Infrastructure did some kind of update this morning I think, guess it messed something up
1823300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:26:02.8740000-06:00Thank you David!
1824334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T22:52:45.8440000-06:00Air assist relay now jumpered to fan relay, so both come on at same time, so an internal splitter instead of external splitter. Air assist stays on for same length of time as blower
1825300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T22:53:23.0340000-06:00Nice, no matter what setting in software says?
1826334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T22:59:14.0750000-06:00Yeah, that setting won't do anything anymore😃 (1)
1827334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T23:18:56.9080000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392546323620167680/IMG_20171218_231847.jpg?ex=67b95e40&is=67b80cc0&hm=22d2979587911a8f23d53b12902a300c479be8457e16e225bec7cdaf71345fdb&
1828334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T23:19:20.5150000-06:008 spare lenses, 20 spare mirrors, long and short focus tubes
1829300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T23:19:53.1350000-06:00they do exist! 😃
1830300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T23:21:29.9400000-06:00will now be kept in lower locking part of laser tool cabinet
1831300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T23:22:09.3430000-06:00I'll share the lockbox code with laser maintainers at the January meeting
1832334393967015755776agr00902017-12-18T23:30:00.0630000-06:00Should I throw away old full spectrum lenses?
1833300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-18T23:32:52.9370000-06:00I'd say yes... @pearce see any need for them?
1834334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T00:03:14.2070000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392557469416685568/IMG_20171219_000303.jpg?ex=67b968a2&is=67b81722&hm=b6ca1e495288b1d808e6feb8da585b2675c5d3fa813d8594031ed3cd91fab56a&
1835194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T00:04:22.3430000-06:00They might be the same lenses. Let's keep until tested
1836334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T01:08:48.3740000-06:00Observed the USB issue a couple times on both Nova 35s, quick fix is unplug and replug USB on the laser(the grey translucent cable). I moved donner USB plug back to face to make it easy to do this.
1837334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T01:55:08.7460000-06:00Looks like it's using USB com port 5, I increased baud rate from 9600 to 57600 for blitzen only, will see if that makes a diffetence
1838371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:48:28.3500000-06:00Is there a difference in lenses for the HD and long throw? Or is it the tube length?
1839371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:49:20.6440000-06:00Having the air assist option enabled is good. In class I say to leave it on. It was not the problem with Frankie.
1840371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:50:26.4760000-06:00The Zing software (acrobat and print driver) needs to be on all the laser computers, esp for class.
1841371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:52:08.9980000-06:00With the current set up, I can only show 4 people at a time how to do the hands on portion, and even that is awkward, as you have to be to right to see the laser
1842371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:53:20.8690000-06:00The zing is cutting very well. My typical settings for Vector are too aggressive. That's great news. Thank you all who have helped with it
1843371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:54:12.2130000-06:00I have been pushing the Jan 7 meeting/work day for folks to get trained and involved in laser.
1844371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:54:26.0810000-06:00I'll post it on Talk if it is not already there
1845371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:56:18.9840000-06:00I do have a Zing specific class this week. Very cool to see it full.
1846371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T02:57:12.3060000-06:00I wonder if the HD lens for the Thunder will be able to match the Zing's quality
1847194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T03:07:12.3810000-06:00I left 2 sets of speakers on the laser tables. Don't trash them
1848194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T03:07:19.2240000-06:00I'll be back tomorrow
1849334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T04:56:13.5390000-06:00set them in lost and found, wasnt sure whose they were
1850194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T05:58:35.2800000-06:00Lost and found works. Thanks
1851334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T15:54:27.1780000-06:00Any thoughts on idea to replace all of the random bits of metal being used as weights on lasers with som 3/16" hot rolled plate? 2'x4' = $50, would plasma cut into shapes such as corners, and have those as weights to hold down things. Would be ~4.8mm thick, so would prevent head crashing into it as long as its focused at correct height💪 (2)
1852334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T15:56:02.6450000-06:00Each piece would weigh 1.5-2 pounds
1853371416661040955403talkers2017-12-19T16:11:03.3890000-06:00Great idea
1854300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-19T17:31:29.9480000-06:00Love this idea! The huge chunks of metal that have accumulated in the area for weights do make me nervous for our lasers
1855385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-19T17:47:19.3180000-06:00I like the idea, but any chance we could also get some magnets? Find something small but powerful and paint them red for laser.
1856385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-19T18:41:37.2740000-06:00how would we use the magnets?
1857194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T18:46:47.9130000-06:00the bed is thin steel, the magnets would hold stuff to them
1858194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T18:46:52.7910000-06:00BUT
1859194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T18:47:07.6320000-06:00its so thin the magnests dont do that much
1860385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-19T18:47:36.2620000-06:00(there's always a "but")
1861194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T18:49:37.8150000-06:00they are still weights, so theres that
1862300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-19T19:05:26.1100000-06:00Be sure to engrave or mark the weights as Laser Group property. Stuff disappears too fast. With a label, they may stick around longer.👍 (1)
1863300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-19T19:57:50.4320000-06:00@pinewoodnut think we could find some magnets at 5mm or less and strong enough?
1864194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T21:16:33.0290000-06:00Laser blower just turned in on its own with zero people at the computers
1865194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T21:16:45.6030000-06:00And turned off
1866194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-19T21:17:02.1900000-06:00Can probably get a good video of me reacting to it at 9:15😆 (1),😂 (1)
1867300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-19T21:17:34.5650000-06:00Ghost laser user
1868334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T21:38:13.2970000-06:00the auto delay off box I added to thunder has a usb 5v power supply plugged into the air assist outlet, probably that is triggering occassional false signals, as longs as it turns off soon I'm not too worried about it (20 to 25 seconds is the delay in the delay relay board)
1869334393967015755776agr00902017-12-19T21:40:59.6680000-06:00you could try pulling one of the neodynium magnets off the wait list and see if they would work, they are from home depot, but can order them in any size off amazon
1870227790908035170305adam13342017-12-20T11:54:50.8330000-06:00There was a large box of very powerful magnets in Machine Shop. They were effectively free for the taking, but may have all been claimed at this point.
1871371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T14:07:47.0370000-06:00The blower relay on the Zing takes about 60 seconds from turning on the blower to allowing cutting.
1872300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-20T14:21:09.5490000-06:00I dont think it was doing that to me the other day, but can you put a sign up saying to turn the blower on early?
1873371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T14:43:28.2660000-06:00I will. It's been an ongoing thing
1874371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T14:43:59.2140000-06:00All four lasers are in use today. It's hopping.
1875300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:11:03.3180000-06:00Hmm. We need to look into that Zing/blower delay issue. That shouldn't be happening.
1876300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:12:17.5690000-06:00That means you don't really know if the laser will fire on the first part of your job.
1877334393967015755776agr00902017-12-20T15:13:00.3260000-06:00Is there a 60 second delay before interlock status led goes green after flipping switch?
1878300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:13:50.4390000-06:00There wasn't any such delay in the past (i.e. before the move).
1879300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:14:47.4640000-06:00If there is a light that comes on (Interlock status?) that shows when it is ready, we can use that as a temporary workaround by posting a notice.
1880300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:15:57.1620000-06:00However, this makes me think we still have an interlock sensor problem that was discussed in the past. Not sure what Pearce did to fix it last time. I think it might have just suddenly started working again. Could be intermittent.
1881300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-20T15:18:41.9780000-06:00Lights are on the right side of the machine. @john a gorman if you're still around can you check it out?
1882300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:20:14.9930000-06:00Here's what Epilog TS said about Interlock:
1883300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:20:49.7560000-06:00Focus your attention on the right side wall. You will notice two wires are going to be attached to the sensors that are directly below the gaskets that keep the glass window from slamming. To test to see if these sensors are working you may loosen the screws that are keeping them in place. With two magnets I would like you to touch both the sensors. If it all works you should see the interlock notification light turn on, on the right side of the machine.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/393150776513527808/IMAG0200.jpg?ex=67b996f1&is=67b84571&hm=af2ac4b907279f7ef84bc50bccf61fb48f49fe4d7cda4edbf0762b82312af241&
1884300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:22:03.4290000-06:00Apparently there are two sensors and both must be activated or the Interlock light doesn't come on.
1885300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:22:38.4320000-06:00I'm thinking that we have an intermittent wire to one of them or one of the sensors itself has gone intermittent.
1886300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:23:26.8530000-06:00It could be that the 60 sec delay experienced was just the intermittent sensor finally activating after some vibration of the table or the Zing.
1887300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T15:23:53.2910000-06:00Do we have two small magnets to run the test described by Epilog?
1888300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-20T15:24:35.9470000-06:00There are magnets in the top drawer of the tool chest for the magnetic dry erase board
1889300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-20T15:25:02.1570000-06:00Or on the board itself
1890300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-20T15:25:26.5350000-06:00Beau will you be around to take a look?
1891194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T15:37:41.2300000-06:00I did notice that the tube needing to be "warmed up" is true for the zing
1892194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T15:38:22.2330000-06:00It's possible that it just hadn't been used in a while and wasn't ready to cut. The blower has worked every time for me otherwise
1893300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T16:22:15.0470000-06:00I don't think that the tube has to warm up. It should be ready to go immediately. I'll ask Epilog to confirm that. What have you experienced that leads you to believe that? I'm not being argumentative just curious as i haven't experienced that. (Or at least i haven't been aware it was happening. )
1894300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T16:23:22.4080000-06:00I'll come in this weekend at the latest to check it out.
1895194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T18:33:31.7220000-06:00Well
1896194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T18:35:45.3780000-06:00It hadn't been used in a while and when I started my raster it didn't do he first 6mm. And then faded into a working one. Confirmed by someone mentioning that rf tubes need a bit of warm up, saying that it was a con of rf but everything else made up for it
1897194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T18:36:09.8640000-06:00The zing also worked fine a few moments ago
1898300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:10:42.2810000-06:00Called Epilog TS. Turns out you were right pearce. If the Zing laser has sat for awhile it can take a little while before the gas in the laser tube gets excited back up to full power. I'm trying to get more details as to how long it takes to come back up to full power from Epilog.😮 (1)
1899371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T21:11:38.6000000-06:00Ahhhh
1900371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T21:11:46.0830000-06:00Thanks guys
1901300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:12:18.5980000-06:00They said that if it has sat very long you need to do a test run at 100% power in Vector mode. How long should that run be . . . depends. 😕
1902300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:12:57.3560000-06:00They also said that we should consider turning of the power to it when we are done using it if no one else is waiting for it.
1903300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:14:18.0270000-06:00Better on the PS's in the unit AND it turns out that there is a special timer that runs after power up to "try" to account for this. I'm not real clear on this so they are going to send me an email with more details and their recommendation as to what sort of procedures we should use at DMS.
1904300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:16:27.1530000-06:00They also said that this ramp up time is especially bad if you are trying to do a Raster and the unit has sat for awhile. Guess that means I need to make up a Warm-Up Vector job and run that a few times before jumping in to do some of my Raster Engraving.
1905300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:17:29.5090000-06:00Now here's a question for the crew: Should we charge for laser time for warm-up runs?
1906300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:20:11.5520000-06:00This timer function after Zing power on might account for the 60 sec delay AGr saw. Do you recall if you had just powered up the Zing when you saw this delay or had it been powered up for awhile?
1907194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:23:26.0550000-06:00No one had used it in a while
1908194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:24:07.9440000-06:00Along the lines of being told "I wish I could use the zing no one has been using it all day" but I don't have a time
1909194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:25:07.9240000-06:00Since we charge per 5 min, I don't think we should change the formula
1910194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:25:49.3660000-06:00Do a quick test run and see if it's working and in the right spot. It will ensure you are aligned anyway
1911300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:28:11.2830000-06:00Yeah, but if I'm doing a Raster and it is critical that I have the exact Power set to only engrave through my black paint layer, how do I know if the power is back up to full strenght. 😕
1912300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:29:40.0980000-06:00That could really mess up one of my engraving jobs. Maybe the email will give me a better idea of the min|nominal|max warm up times.
1913300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:30:36.7810000-06:00In any case, I was told that this applies to all gas lasers so technically the Thunders have the same issue. However, they are used much more often so I suspect it is not too much of an issue.
1914300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:31:25.4250000-06:00I think this phenomena should be mentioned in the laser classes; especially for the Zing if it isn't already.
1915300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:33:51.0440000-06:00In the past I've put in a piece of cardboard and did a test run to confirm my "basic" settings for a Raster job were correct. Sounds like it is even more important to do that now.
1916194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:33:51.2530000-06:00I seriously doubt you will be doing any long warm up rasters
1917300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:34:14.0490000-06:00No they said do a warm up Vector at 100% to get it warmed up.
1918194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:34:51.9140000-06:00It took less than a few lines of the raster starting for my piece on a postage stamp sized etch.
1919194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:35:18.8600000-06:00Even more of a reason to believe you won't be spending any longer than a minute warming it up
1920194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:36:09.8270000-06:00The idea that you are going to incur a cost that's enough to merit changing the way people pay for the lasers is absurd
1921300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:36:31.3410000-06:00But you don't know how long the laser had sat unfired. Could have been 10 minutes or it could have been a 10 hours. I suspect if it sits that long there could be a longer warm up.
1922300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:37:06.6050000-06:00I don't have any opinion as to whether we need to change charge model. I'll leave that to others. I just mentioned it in case it was important.
1923194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:37:39.6750000-06:00Dude it sounds like you need to buy your own laser if your need is that specific
1924300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:38:47.1410000-06:00I'd love to but it isn't in the cards. What I'll need to do is those test runs (which I pay for) to make sure the laser is up to full power. Then run the Raster.
1925300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:39:19.7630000-06:00Now that I know about this I think it might explain some variations in some of the jobs I've done in the past.
1926194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T21:39:40.6460000-06:00Yep that's the first thing anyone should do. A test cut.
1927300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-20T21:40:50.1250000-06:00Yep. 100% agree. Even more important if you need to do Rasters like I'm doing that "just" engrave through the top layer of paint.
1928371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T21:56:07.6210000-06:00If it isn't cutting, then you should not pay. Start a test cut. Once it's working, then get your job ready. Then start the timer.
1929371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T21:56:51.8370000-06:00Speaking of the Zing, I have a class on using tomorrow.
1930371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T21:57:12.6980000-06:00I forgot to set a cut off. 14 people signed up to use it.
1931371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T21:57:21.6830000-06:00To take* it
1932194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-20T22:03:12.8210000-06:00Should probably change it to two classes and contact them to see if they can take a later time.👆 (1)
1933371416661040955403talkers2017-12-20T22:04:31.8360000-06:00Yes, I'll write up an email and reach out
1934300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-21T15:20:54.0110000-06:00Anyone know how the wait list with the magnet strips is going? Are people using it as intended?
1935300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-21T15:39:32.4700000-06:00I still plan to improve on it using cermark to include instructions... Not likely to happen before the holidays though 😬
1936300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-21T15:42:17.5200000-06:00John, did the Zing work OK for your class? There was some discussion that it was still acting up and needed to be looked at.
1937300233722001752065gbeauw2017-12-21T15:44:07.4660000-06:00Oh, I see that class is not until 8PM tonight. Let me know if you have problems and I'll come in this weekend and try to address them.😬 (1)
1938385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-21T16:19:56.4480000-06:00I haven't had a chance to set the computers to only allow the Laser Basics group access yet, but I'll try to get that done tonight or tomorrow. I did a check and found that group has 831 users currently
1939334393967015755776agr00902017-12-21T16:26:53.6150000-06:00what is estimated number of users that attempt to use lasers without having taken any training / class?
1940334393967015755776agr00902017-12-21T16:40:14.7610000-06:00Fyi to dump group membership, can run this in powershell: Get-ADGroupMember "CN=Laser Basics,OU=Security,OU=Groups,DC=dms,DC=local" | Sort-Object name | Format-Table -Property SamAccountName,name | Out-File laser_basics_members.txt
1941334393967015755776agr00902017-12-21T16:43:00.4780000-06:00827 in Laser Basics out of 3080 AD accounts that are in group Members
1942334393967015755776agr00902017-12-21T17:07:02.5470000-06:00can type whoami /groups at a command prompt to see what groups you are in, or net user USERNAME /domain to see groups for a specific person
1943334393967015755776agr00902017-12-21T17:10:26.3160000-06:00Another question is what is delay from finishing a class to being added to group, would someone be able to use laser right after a class? I don't think locking down pcs is worth administrative overhead, but I'm not the one who would be dealing with it
1944371416661040955403talkers2017-12-21T17:16:00.3540000-06:00Users without training don't get very far on the lasers
1945371416661040955403talkers2017-12-21T17:16:25.6520000-06:00I don't think it's worth it
1946371416661040955403talkers2017-12-21T17:18:14.6660000-06:00Instructors do the AD adds. They have to submit it within 2 days. Otherwise, it goes to calendar admins
1947385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-21T17:49:56.7170000-06:00Let me know what the consensus is. I won't make the change until the committee decides
1948385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-21T17:51:39.4620000-06:00The main concern I have is for after the laser basics class material is online. We've talked about requiring a hands-on test before getting access.
1949194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-21T17:56:11.3900000-06:00Unless they read the manual on the laser, that tells you how to use it
1950385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-21T17:58:26.2090000-06:00No doubt..... Assuming you understand whatever language the manual is written in 😁
1951371416661040955403talkers2017-12-21T17:58:44.0070000-06:00If moodle is to replace the class/be an alternative, then reading the manual is about the same
1952385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-21T17:59:03.9430000-06:00Last I checked, it didn't appear to be in standard English
1953300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-21T18:00:14.8810000-06:00I'm most worried about people receiving the safety aspects covered in either an in or online class
1954371416661040955403talkers2017-12-21T18:00:58.0830000-06:00@pinewoodnut lol, I meant the ones we maintain
1955194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-21T18:01:02.4960000-06:00That's the issue. They would only know enough to be dangerous
1956388916604941107200ladysandry2017-12-23T15:18:38.5800000-06:00There are a couple students here at the laser waiting on the instructor for the 3pm basics class, any idea where he is?
1957300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-23T15:20:22.4150000-06:00The teacher is @tomthm. Tommy are you running late?
1958388916604941107200ladysandry2017-12-23T15:29:23.1760000-06:00@merissa I think they left.
1959371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T04:25:43.2590000-06:00What's the guest PW for the Square kiosk? Evan and Jessica are trying to pay
1960371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T04:25:53.8380000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/394435509474033674/IMG_20171223_215602.jpg?ex=67b9a631&is=67b854b1&hm=6b05b3d7d7a531b56426501e60cbc022fba1fd0008c4f4d545a6d4f5e5449c1d&
1961371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T04:26:36.9740000-06:00Check what Anita lasers on her screw driver
1962371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T05:03:01.0440000-06:00Looks like the square is back up. I told Evan it was on Talk. Guess he found it
1963371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T05:04:12.9270000-06:00One user complained of a comm issue on Donner. Told him to unplug to the USB. Someone posted a sign to that. Looks like a regular problem
1964109359055532732416clone10182017-12-24T07:01:39.0820000-06:00@john a gorman 1825
1965371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T12:18:39.5240000-06:00@LukeStrickland thank you
1966300083517877125121andrew51522017-12-24T19:14:56.1480000-06:00Recon everyone's busy, but FYI Thunder Laser closest the garage door: Rotary cap fell under the grill I tried to vacuum it and blow into reach. I was unable to retrieve it. Should be easy to reach if keys have to open the grill underside area. I apologize for the inconvenience. Jean Welch
1967385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-24T20:02:48.3210000-06:00I got the rotary cap out of the bottom of Blitzen and back in the toolbox.
1968300078993577607170merissa43082017-12-24T20:03:28.8650000-06:00You're awesome David, thank you!!
1969385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-24T20:04:08.2800000-06:00I also did a spot check on the lenses. Donner and Blitzen were fine, but Thunder was dirty. I cleaned it and the mirror on the laser head. It was still cutting fine, but dirty.👍 (3),👏 (1)
1970385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-24T21:10:36.1550000-06:00Gosh darn it! I forgot to pay! Fessing up. Post-it note in place to remind me tomorrow.
1971371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T21:26:50.2440000-06:00I saw a new padlock on the tool cabinet. Is that where the keys are kept to the lasers? What's the plan for granting access?
1972385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-24T23:48:34.7770000-06:00@pinewoodnut what's the link for the 300ft roll of transfer paper? I can only find transfer tape in that length.
1973385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-24T23:51:23.4140000-06:00@stephenie this is what I just got 1 Roll 12in x 300ft Application / Transfer Tape, GreenStar Classic Adhesive - Vinyl Cutter Signs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C131Y04/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_3fjqAbEF4AH17
1974385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-24T23:52:29.2840000-06:00Looks like it is paper transfer tape. I can bring some up to the space for you to see before you order
1975385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-24T23:56:43.5380000-06:00The description and Q&A says paper. What a great price. Shame it's not gridded. I use mine for lining up stuff too.
1976385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-24T23:56:54.0780000-06:00Like the tumblers for etching.
1977385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-24T23:58:10.8380000-06:00It's what cnczone or rdworkslab.com recommend
1978371416661040955403talkers2017-12-24T23:58:44.4350000-06:00Their price on vinyl is crazy $20-$25 for 24"* 30'
1979385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-24T23:59:11.0850000-06:00Lines would be nice, but not needed for most of what I would use it for.
1980385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-25T00:00:16.0530000-06:00Yeah, I'm going to try it with some vinyl decals, but since you can't see through it, lineup might be more difficult
1981371416661040955403talkers2017-12-25T00:30:16.2600000-06:00For vinyl, I like the clear without guide lines. Esp the clear shelf paper from Dollar Tree
1982385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-25T00:34:57.4130000-06:00I feel the knee-jerk reaction to add the disclaimer: no transfer tape to be used in the laser. Just had to say it. Am always worried some well meaning laser user will see my xfer paper and not be able to figure out the difference.
1983194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-25T00:42:30.5180000-06:00vinyl decals are PVC do not cut them on the laser
1984371416661040955403talkers2017-12-25T00:43:50.7720000-06:00Yes, we should have moved the discussion to general. It's the transfer paper that Stephenie and David like for laser
1985385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-25T00:44:03.7730000-06:00Right. We're talking about using transfer paper (typically used for transferring vinyl cut items) as masking with the laser. It's a dual purpose tool.
1986194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-25T00:45:53.5560000-06:00if you get the masking tape style stuff it should be fine
1987194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-25T00:46:01.6200000-06:00but not the clear plastic kind👍 (1)
1988371416661040955403talkers2017-12-25T00:48:45.6910000-06:00Agreed
1989385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-25T16:48:50.4660000-06:00I saw this recommended by one of the transfer paper commenters: http://www.laserdark.com/application/. I wonder how it differs from straight up stain.
1990385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-27T21:41:46.1410000-06:00@merissa: I paid up my missed fee.👍 (1)
1991385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-27T21:52:55.2730000-06:00Laser Field Report: (1) twice people waited to use the rotary even though thunders were free, i.e. lack of rotary created a queue where there was no queue for a laser. Longest wait was 1.5hrs. (2) People are saying nice things about the new queue system. They like the additional space to write and flexibility to shuffle the order. (3) Lots of poor scrap managment. Oversize pieces in trash can. Plywood pieces stacked up against the wall and tables and automotive shelves. I cleared some out, located missing owners, and found new users for scrap. Educated users about scrap management. (4) Someone blatantly jumped the queue ahead of another who was waiting 1.5 hrs for a specific machine. Educated user and resolved.💯 (1)
1992371416661040955403talkers2017-12-27T23:03:21.5820000-06:00Thank you @stephenie for both the report and the positive action
1993385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-28T00:47:38.7960000-06:00@tomthm and @john a gorman Have you seen this comment? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/johnson-s-plastics-and-setting-fire-to-the-account/30570/2
1994385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-28T00:48:11.4900000-06:00"Several people I’ve talked to have said they were told during laser classes that Johnson’s plastics is a supplier and that DMS has an account there. It is a DMS use account only as it is a tax exempt account"
1995194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-28T00:48:27.0810000-06:00shouldnt have ever been mentioning to people that we had an account to use..
1996385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-28T00:49:56.1740000-06:00I've taken Laser Basics twice in the last year-plus. Neither instructor (Tommy and John) said this during those classes. But it might have creeped into the curriculum since my last class.
1997371416661040955403talkers2017-12-28T00:50:00.2070000-06:00I've never said it
1998371416661040955403talkers2017-12-28T00:50:32.7850000-06:00The documentation does not either
1999385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-28T00:50:45.7560000-06:00John, I don't see Tommy on here much. Could you check with him and resolve if need be?
2000371416661040955403talkers2017-12-28T00:51:04.4590000-06:00I have recommended them as diy friendly, and that Curtis was a member
2001371416661040955403talkers2017-12-28T00:51:18.0440000-06:00Yes, I'll check in with Tommydms (1)
2002385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-29T11:30:46.2060000-06:00How do we want to handle the office hours concept we talked about before? I'm happy to just put some time in the calendar and reserve Donner. I was thinking 2 hours at a time, but the question is when. I don't want to hold up the laser during heavy usage times.
2003385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-29T11:33:22.1490000-06:00Also, since it isn't a specific training session or class, there isn't really an option for honorariums. I'm not personally concerned about that, but I want to put it out there so that we have discussed it.
2004385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T11:37:06.7960000-06:00I can commit to one evening a month. 2 hours is a good place to start. It should be in primetime, meaning when the most people can take advantage of the service. It should be regular. What frequency should we offer? If we had two people, one to advise on Inkscape, another to advise on the laser operation, that might be an idea. I can't accept a 1099 honorarium without jeopardizing some of my benefits, so honorarium is a moot point with me.
2005385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T11:52:08.4000000-06:00Wednesday nights are nearly always free for me.
2006194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-29T11:53:37.5350000-06:00I don't know that I would "reserve" a laser for it. I think you'll spend a lot of the office hour time helping people get their files straight for the lasers
2007194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-29T11:54:13.2250000-06:00Also the part where we don't reserve individual tools. Unless you are making it a class on the schedule
2008385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T11:54:48.6010000-06:00I've met people who have good files but want someone to look over their shoulder while using the machine for the first few times.
2009385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T11:56:11.1220000-06:00This would be a calendar event, so yes a tool could be reserved. But this was not plausible when we had only one functioning, full-service laser.
2010385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T12:00:55.7730000-06:00We are holding several Laser Basics classes per month. They often fill up and seem to always hit their minimum. 7 classes in December = 21-56 new users who would welcome oversight on their first laser attempts.
2011385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T12:03:58.7490000-06:00One set of office hours per month isn't going to disrupt Laser, would generate goodwill, and help integrate new users to our culture.
2012194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-29T12:25:42.6080000-06:00I'm just saying, don't reserve the tool without having it on the calendar. But y'all are already on that
2013385477767179010049stephenie.2017-12-29T14:25:03.3730000-06:00Thanks for the reminder, @pearce.
2014385204809768108042pinewoodnut2017-12-29T23:18:02.1570000-06:00Tried out lightburn software package tonight. Seems to work fine with vector cut/scan jobs. It has issues with graphic imports. It only sends a small part of the graphic. I'm just running it from my laptop for now and I make sure rdworks still works from the normal PC before I leave. I'll let you know how my testing goes. Let me know if there is something specific you'd like me to test.
2015300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-01T23:21:59.4770000-06:00Brandon finished up a couple improvements for us today. He made some new focusing pucks and better weight bars
2016300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-01T23:22:24.6420000-06:00Try them out and let us know what you thinkdms (1)
2017334393967015755776agr00902018-01-02T00:15:22.0390000-06:00https://cad.onshape.com/documents/2448e5563c3cfe7fd9954909/w/69d26e026625dfed9924f26d/e/1daaa90be4912c89d100e5d6
2018334393967015755776agr00902018-01-02T00:20:20.0660000-06:00Heights are 6 and 5mm, on assumption that for engraving you want focal point on surface and for cutting average of 1/8" material you would want focal point a little above center of material. Someone doing actual testing to find the best distances would be better than just guessing. Also the LASER is 4.5mm thick, and FOCUS is 4mm thickhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/397635202857304064/unknown.png?ex=67b96ca4&is=67b81b24&hm=c3cac01f2e389ff4c64111ae90b4ab9c87808da8e479af9cf4920e2ea9ea267a&
2019385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-02T08:54:13.8060000-06:00Excellent.
2020121823075548266496shdragon2018-01-02T10:10:25.2100000-06:00That is amazing.
2021385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-02T15:21:04.4830000-06:00bumped post of our Maintenance Day/Committee Mtg/Call for Chair Noms.
2022300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-02T15:29:48.7310000-06:00Thanks Stephenie!
2023300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-02T15:31:13.8580000-06:00Anyone know if the metal table that's parked between auto and our laser table belongs somewhere else in the space?
2024385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-02T15:43:32.3270000-06:00I'm headed that way in the next hour. Will check if no answer turns up here in the mean time.👍 (1)
2025300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-02T16:06:44.6910000-06:00It showed up last night... Someone wheeled a wood project over on it and left the table there
2026385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-02T18:47:33.0210000-06:00@LukeStrickland solved the mystery. Belongs to science. It's back home.
2027300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-02T18:54:07.5810000-06:00Awesome :) thanks yall!
2028371416661040955403talkers2018-01-02T20:16:53.8250000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/397936327280295937/IMG_20180102_201429.jpg?ex=67b93395&is=67b7e215&hm=a8b430d148700be8e6deb1f288d39dea0701679f56f9d930bc5c95a8369b53e9&
2029371416661040955403talkers2018-01-02T20:17:27.6000000-06:00Shawn found this on the donation shelf. He wonders if it is working or not.
2030194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-02T20:18:49.9110000-06:00looks liek the old one that was throwing arcs
2031194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-02T20:18:58.2810000-06:00its probably shorted
2032371416661040955403talkers2018-01-02T20:20:05.4880000-06:00Thanks Pearce
2033385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-03T12:32:47.5010000-06:00Monitor is chromecasting pictures of laser creations. Couldn't have done it without @StanSimmons (google account gynastics) and @john a gorman (tv set up) and @merissa (collecting open house pics) . Best moment: Anita squealing "I'm famous!" when she saw her laser-etched screwdriver on the big screen.😂 (1)
2034385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-03T12:33:24.4240000-06:00We've been getting compliments on it, especially from @kriskat30 .
2035385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-03T12:34:50.5990000-06:00I'm culling pics from Show-n-Tell talk posts and adding them as time permits. If the maker included details, am adding text.
2036385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-03T22:32:03.4070000-06:00@merissa Talk ban is lifted for you and Walter.
2037300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-03T22:33:08.9880000-06:00Thanks for the fyi
2038371416661040955403talkers2018-01-04T00:08:19.5040000-06:00What's the combo for the new locker? I'm assuming the lens cleaning supplies are there.
2039300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T07:52:16.1120000-06:00I'll be giving it out at the maintenance meeting on Sunday
2040109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:51:37.1730000-06:00@merissa What table is that on the wall?
2041109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:51:47.8580000-06:00and do they make them 9ft long 😃
2042300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T15:58:43.2400000-06:00Umm, let me find info for you. It's butcher block counter ordered through amazon, think they had a couple length options... One sec
2043109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:01:33.1990000-06:00Take your time
2044300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T16:10:19.7100000-06:00Allwood 6/4" (1.5") x 18" x 84" Birch Table / Counter / Island Top see all edge options (Routed edges both faces) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9LFD7Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gxQtAbWHCFMGF
2045109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:12:21.0440000-06:00Thank you
2046300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T16:12:27.4930000-06:00There's an 8ft option but I don't see 9ft
2047300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T16:17:52.3180000-06:00Is this for the design computer station @LukeStrickland ?
2048109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:18:08.9710000-06:00Yeah
2049300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T16:18:17.1600000-06:00Awesome
2050109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:18:17.3450000-06:00Found https://www.flooranddecor.com/wood-butcher-block-countertops/oak-builder-grade-butcher-block-countertop-8ft.-100054337.html also
2051300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T16:19:01.4270000-06:00Nice
2052109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:19:45.2260000-06:00It requires some work vs the amazon one though
2053300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-04T16:20:53.1590000-06:00Think ours came with rounded edge on three faces, and brandon put a few coats of poly on the top to protect it, right @AGr ?
2054334393967015755776agr00902018-01-04T16:25:12.6830000-06:00I cut off one edge so it would be flush against wall
2055334393967015755776agr00902018-01-04T16:25:34.3920000-06:003 coats of normal poly👍 (2)
2056371416661040955403talkers2018-01-04T20:08:32.6000000-06:00Lumber liquidators has 12', but it's a lot more expensive
2057385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-05T15:02:07.3290000-06:00Sunday's 2p Laser class was cancelled?
2058385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-05T15:02:24.2230000-06:00Laser Basics^
2059300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-05T21:17:01.4560000-06:00Guess so since it's not on the calendar anymore
2060393637011354812426nclindberg2018-01-06T12:48:44.8720000-06:00Tomorrow at the committee meeting/laser maintenance are you guys starting with the maintenance first or the meeting?
2061300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-06T13:00:10.0430000-06:00We'll start with meeting unless anyone prefers differently👍 (2)
2062300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-06T18:48:04.2380000-06:00Can anyone cover a laser basics class for me, tomorrow at 2 :00 PM? I was recovering nicely from flu, but today I’m going downhill.
2063300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-06T18:50:16.5790000-06:00There's no class on the calendar... Did you cancel it?
2064334393967015755776agr00902018-01-06T19:31:54.3990000-06:00Anyone with a truck going to be at meeting to help move lasersaur to dms dock?
2065300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-06T23:13:25.7630000-06:00Thanks Marissa. Guess I did. Now I’m wondering what else I have done in my fever state. Thanks again.
2066371416661040955403talkers2018-01-06T23:15:11.2750000-06:00@tomthm get better
2067385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-06T23:18:56.3810000-06:00@tomthm get well soon. Thank you for teaching a regular Sunday class. We've got a lot of new laser users thanks to you and @john a gorman .
2068385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T00:27:21.0090000-06:00I was looking at the DMS online classes and was surprised to see a Laser Basics class by Ryan Caldwell. It's inaccessible. Is that a dead project?
2069371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T00:31:03.6990000-06:00I can take a look. He worked on the online class, and passed it on to Nancee. Ryan was asking earlier this week if we needed teachers. His family moved to Florida as he finishes his last semester. He will have more time for the Space.
2070109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T06:44:14.5800000-06:00@AGr I'm going to be renting a home depot one next Sunday for offsiting
2071300233722001752065gbeauw2018-01-07T11:00:16.8540000-06:00I'm here. What room are we meeting in?
2072300233722001752065gbeauw2018-01-07T11:01:23.3140000-06:00Meeting is today right or am I off a week?
2073300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T11:14:49.9940000-06:00Meeting now! moved to lecture hall so we can hear better
2074300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T11:20:53.2600000-06:00donuts and kolaches for attendees!!
2075300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T11:21:38.9860000-06:00anyone else planning to be here?
2076109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T11:27:00.8910000-06:00i was going to drop by before extension meeting
2077109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T11:27:08.4170000-06:00running late tho, it is a sunday lol
2078300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T11:27:24.1450000-06:00sounds good, we'll be here 😃
2079371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T12:54:31.3850000-06:00How did the meeting turn out?
2080334393967015755776agr00902018-01-07T13:02:46.6540000-06:00Why are 3 fire extinguishers missing from laser?
2081371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T13:03:52.2810000-06:00Are those the ones with the bad welds? Ethan's going to repair them.
2082371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T13:04:16.2920000-06:00Allen was talking about 3 the other day
2083334393967015755776agr00902018-01-07T13:10:18.7290000-06:00That's who we should send bill to for $500 if they don't show back up?
2084371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T13:17:28.5420000-06:00Yes, send it to Allen
2085371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T13:17:29.8720000-06:00How did the meeting go?
2086300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T13:37:01.0410000-06:00We're still here, come join :)
2087300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T13:50:03.8100000-06:00Anyone know where our "rawr" lasersaur leather strap went?
2088300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T13:52:00.0830000-06:00Taking things from the committee area is not allowed without chair approval
2089300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T13:53:24.4610000-06:00@john a gorman who is ethan and are the extinguishers here somewhere onsite?
2090371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T14:00:45.2800000-06:00Ethan is a certified fire extinguisher tech. Teaches leather classes. Really nice guy. Allen said he's caring for the plethora of extinguishers we have. Allen also said you can tell if Ethan is there because the bed of his pickup truck is filled with extinguishers. The laser extinguishers might also be by the auto toolbox.
2091300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T14:03:13.9670000-06:00Lovely
2092300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T14:03:48.3400000-06:00We planned to repair them today, just needed a new rivet
2093109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T15:16:33.2060000-06:00@merissa are you gone for the day?
2094109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T15:16:45.2300000-06:00Found your extinguishes
2095334393967015755776agr00902018-01-07T15:37:07.6390000-06:00Gone for day
2096109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T15:41:51.6820000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/399679051473616905/IMG_20180107_154122.jpg?ex=67b99bdf&is=67b84a5f&hm=ae070d9353bc9e9b4e9d0e1f89520dc56fae6dea66dacc7229663383ab35b955&
2097371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T15:45:55.7770000-06:00Thanks @LukeStrickland
2098300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T16:16:44.3460000-06:00Thanks Luke. Just want to make sure it's known those are specifically for the lasers
2099300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T16:17:06.0180000-06:00Who's the storage card out to?
2100109359055532732416clone10182018-01-07T16:21:27.4440000-06:00Ethan
2101385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T21:46:25.8110000-06:00I've added a note to the wiki maintenance history "07 January 2017. Ethan has our three extinguishers out for repair. See Laser discord channel beginning at 01/07/17, 1:02pm."
2102385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T21:47:32.9360000-06:00Would any of today's maintenance team/committee update the wiki with what was accomplished, especially any power test readings? Thank you in advance.
2103300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T21:49:23.9750000-06:00I'm having trouble logging into the wiki for some reason
2104300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T21:50:12.6940000-06:00power tests found 125 watts on Thunder (nova63), and 130 watts on both Donner and Blitzen (nova35s)
2105385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T21:56:16.0840000-06:00Got it.
2106385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T21:56:22.0360000-06:00Anything done on the Zing?
2107300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T21:57:04.5760000-06:00don't think a power test was done on it, but not sure
2108300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-07T21:57:36.2710000-06:00all lasers got a good cleaning to include mirrors and lenses
2109385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T21:59:30.3840000-06:00Thank you. All updates made. 👍😃 (1),👍 (1)
2110385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T22:18:08.7020000-06:00@tomthm, @john a gorman and @pinewoodnut (who else teaches laser classes?) From Talk: "This is a reminder that classes that take place January 1 and into the future will require that the instructor/host must complete the attendance part in the calendar within in 24 hours after class completion. This was officially announced at the board meeting on the 17th. This is only a few check boxes and shouldn't take more than a minute. As always, let me know if you have any questions." https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/if-you-are-a-teacher-read-me-i-e-dms-instructor/15738
2111371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T22:20:07.2130000-06:00The Zing has been doing great in the last month. Better than it has in ages. It again cuts 1/8" easily and cleanly.dms (1)
2112385204809768108042pinewoodnut2018-01-07T23:52:01.1740000-06:00I made a small update to the maintenance wiki..... It's 2018 now 😁
2113385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T23:54:51.2210000-06:00Where's the smh emoji?🤦 (1)
2114385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-08T00:14:36.9120000-06:00hahahahaha. Of course.
2115109359055532732416clone10182018-01-08T17:50:33.5300000-06:00@merissa Ethan fixed all of your co2 , you have all lasers covered and two additional
2116300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-08T17:51:03.5550000-06:00Awesome, thank you!
2117371416661040955403talkers2018-01-08T17:51:36.8620000-06:00Way to go Ethan
2118300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-08T17:51:37.1090000-06:00Yes we ended up with two extra, after reporting the damaged ones to amazon they sent more
2119300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-08T17:52:15.5640000-06:00Will keep them in the laser area unless other parts of the space need co2 extinguishers
2120371416661040955403talkers2018-01-08T17:54:29.8440000-06:00Allen says Auto is switching over to CO2 as well. The chemical extinguishers damage cars just like the lasers would be damaged
2121371416661040955403talkers2018-01-08T17:55:02.6570000-06:00And that makes it safer for laser, reducing the risk someone grab the wrong one
2122385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-09T19:13:17.2370000-06:00Updated wiki to reflect extinguisher status.💪 (2)
2123109359055532732416clone10182018-01-10T16:19:56.7270000-06:00@merissa new light in the corner could be $100
2124194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-10T16:45:10.6110000-06:00Worth it
2125300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-10T16:47:54.2530000-06:00Sounds great! Can cover with laser funds
2126300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-10T16:48:09.6390000-06:00Anything you need me to do to make it happen?
2127109359055532732416clone10182018-01-10T16:54:14.0100000-06:00nope, e-z
2128109359055532732416clone10182018-01-10T16:54:16.5710000-06:00I'll let you know👍 (2)
2129385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-12T01:19:51.4220000-06:00@merissa Machine Shop published its meeting minutes on Talk. Could you do the same for us?💪 (1)
2130300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-12T07:37:49.2720000-06:00I normally do right after meetings while it's fresh on my mind, but something came up at the end of maintenance that was pressing
2131300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-12T07:38:04.5430000-06:00I'll try to get it done soon
2132385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-12T08:20:57.4280000-06:00Understood.
2133334393967015755776agr00902018-01-12T19:50:06.9310000-06:00can anyone measure the diameter of the lens holder? the part that goes up and down when you loosen the set screw
2134371416661040955403talkers2018-01-12T20:05:41.8370000-06:00The zing is down. Bed is jammed at the bottom. I'll work on it tonight
2135315676835776299009ferrouswheel42992018-01-13T01:26:30.2180000-06:00Thanks for teaching the Laser basics tonight @john a gorman
2136315676835776299009ferrouswheel42992018-01-13T01:27:44.3280000-06:00It was really interesting and a great first class at the Space.
2137371416661040955403talkers2018-01-13T01:28:19.2110000-06:00@FerrousWheel you are most welcome
2138371416661040955403talkers2018-01-13T01:28:32.6880000-06:00Thanks for joining us on Discord
2139334393967015755776agr00902018-01-13T01:30:00.9150000-06:00I'm assuming 24mm and printing something to hold dial indicator to better test bed levelhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/401639004153315328/unknown.png?ex=67b97cf8&is=67b82b78&hm=0269faaad2cf87ac6abfc29b2c6fb4dc1555b4a599d9fd3dbac625ef2f2c70a2&
2140371416661040955403talkers2018-01-13T15:59:45.0930000-06:00That's a great idea
2141189645236908064768themitch222018-01-13T16:37:23.8360000-06:00OpenSCAD FTW. I seriously need to use that more.
2142371416661040955403talkers2018-01-13T18:31:36.4210000-06:00**Cough** Fusion 360 **cough**
2143300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-14T12:37:34.8830000-06:00Anyone available to help move the lasersaur back from offsite today? Will likely need another guy or two to help lift
2144385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-14T12:38:28.7630000-06:00Take pictures?
2145109359055532732416clone10182018-01-14T15:47:13.5800000-06:00We got it back to DMS
2146109359055532732416clone10182018-01-14T15:47:17.3230000-06:00it's palletized now
2147300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-14T15:49:01.7270000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402217570830385152/20180114_154804.jpg?ex=67b99d8d&is=67b84c0d&hm=0a4c5d4f65b9c433ce103126b22e5678f5fe3e04683cc7055b1bafeb11dc5b97&
2148300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-14T15:49:15.1180000-06:00We owe machine shop a strap
2149300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-14T16:04:13.0750000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402221392566943786/download_20180114_160343.jpg?ex=67b9a11c&is=67b84f9c&hm=d707eb3fc312d7db7fa703202446d93ac1fa61e2bb8af6ebcae9575e4fbc3ffb&
2150385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-14T20:14:44.9290000-06:00Aw. Great pics!
2151385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-14T20:15:38.2970000-06:00Opened a trouble ticket on Talk. Blitzen's PC is no longer running Illustrator. Says our license has expired. @StanSimmons is on it.
2152371416661040955403talkers2018-01-14T21:13:42.5750000-06:00Stan said he had to wait till tomorrow
2153385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-14T21:16:51.8240000-06:00@john a gorman would you write a note on the bulletin board that a ticket has been opened for this? Many users aren't on Talk.
2154371416661040955403talkers2018-01-14T21:17:07.6500000-06:00Will do
2155371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T20:47:37.2110000-06:00Zing is fixed. I leveled the bed
2156371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T20:47:49.0510000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402655150562344970/IMG_20180115_201803.jpg?ex=67b93ad4&is=67b7e954&hm=06cb766a7794bdd9b1808261f6352c561d638ad9b58115d1842035e3714f81bc&
2157371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T20:48:07.1630000-06:00Pull the grid
2158371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T20:48:45.5830000-06:00It's the lower right nut that seems to bind and go wacky
2159371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T20:49:43.1510000-06:00I removed the screw for the table in that corner. Then you can raise the bed and use the feeler gauge to check level.👏 (1),dms (1)
2160371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T21:18:06.5800000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402662774016311297/IMG_20180115_200942.jpg?ex=67b941ee&is=67b7f06e&hm=a1806bb3035be0e5f0cc994c42f50c02acc813c4b3e3257983a140394b48980f&
2161371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T21:18:12.4430000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402662798749990912/IMG_20180115_200939.jpg?ex=67b941f4&is=67b7f074&hm=f636d83b99ab489806766c072a923cfe6956044f4ad6145cdb0023becab62473&
2162371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T21:18:33.7910000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402662888302444564/IMG_20180115_200928.jpg?ex=67b94209&is=67b7f089&hm=8c72233c48e296c9e60790d000b9ae8c2e33921facae73bafa5e0c7dcf446eca&
2163371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T21:20:31.2590000-06:00Blitzen does something weird. I download a job at 80% power. It then changes it to 70%. It consistently cuts power by 10%
2164194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-15T21:23:44.2450000-06:00make sure the powers are set properly at the control panel
2165194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-15T21:24:18.4800000-06:00and change them in the program not the control panel
2166334393967015755776agr00902018-01-15T21:24:40.4360000-06:00Didn't David mentioned it is firmware limited to 70% from factory currently?
2167300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-15T21:35:42.1580000-06:00Yep I think @pinewoodnut talked to thunder about that. It's a factory setting I dont think we can change
2168300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-15T21:35:52.0200000-06:00Will have to slow down your speed instead
2169385204809768108042pinewoodnut2018-01-15T21:40:05.1000000-06:00I talked to Thunder tech support about the 70% thing about a week ago. They are setting that as the max power for Donner and Blitzen to safeguard the machines and said we should contact them if we want to go above that.
2170385204809768108042pinewoodnut2018-01-15T21:50:17.7150000-06:00They never said what the safe percentage would be for the tube, so I'd rather not push it to 100% just the see what happens.
2171194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-15T22:19:15.5220000-06:00the 63 is set to 95
2172371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T22:35:34.3150000-06:00The 95% has worked well on 63, as the tube is still at 125 watts
2173371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T22:36:07.2740000-06:00Let's set it to that so the settings are consistent across the board
2174371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T22:36:35.4070000-06:00And we get to use near 130 watts
2175371416661040955403talkers2018-01-15T22:37:11.7520000-06:00Power does start to level off at a certain point though.
2176300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-15T22:38:12.6950000-06:00I'm not comfortable saying yes to changing it until we get more info from thunder on why they've made the change
2177371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:27:12.7490000-06:00@merissa do you want to ask them? I was wondering what other firmware changes are, and if it would benefit us to update 63
2178371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:27:50.5450000-06:00Sorry, I meant to say, do you want me to ask them? Or maybe David
2179300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-16T00:28:28.3790000-06:00Sure anyone who wants to try and get more info would be great
2180371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:28:51.3820000-06:00Is Clay on here yet? He and David will get on well. Both founts of knowledge
2181371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:29:08.7300000-06:00Ok, I'll message Thunder
2182300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-16T00:29:47.7610000-06:00Are a lot of folks experiencing problems with the laser performance? I've pretty much only heard good things, cutting well, etc
2183371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:30:38.5350000-06:00No. Most all good. Someone had the rotary the wrong way and wondered why their image was mirrored
2184371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:30:56.2690000-06:00Lots of happy campers
2185300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-16T00:31:11.8080000-06:00Ok, guess I don't see that making an adjustment is a priority then
2186371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:31:32.0300000-06:00A second rotary would be good. I'll ask about pricing if that's ok.
2187300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-16T00:31:42.7100000-06:00yes that'd be great
2188300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-16T00:32:08.7710000-06:00at the meeting David said he has a contact that has a different style of rotary that would be cheap, but wants to test it out first
2189371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:32:11.2500000-06:00Oh, about the power adjustment, I wonder if users are noticing that, and then compensating
2190300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-16T00:32:43.4070000-06:00So decided to wait a bit on getting another till we evaluate options, but I'm good with getting a second when we have info
2191371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:34:06.3610000-06:00The other style is what we had for the Full Spectrum. It gives us more options. It doesn't need an adjustment based on diameter, as it rolls as at a constant speed regardless of size
2192371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T00:35:24.4930000-06:00I'll talk to Thunder and then you can decide on a second rotary. It is super popular. I'm glad people are using it so much
2193385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-16T01:27:40.7740000-06:00With the roller style, will it accommodate larger diameter objects than the 3-jaw chuck?
2194371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T02:05:14.3040000-06:00Yes. Most designs have one roller driven by the motor. It replaces the Y motor. No adjustments needed. It rotates the object the same as if the gantry was moving on the Y axis
2195371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T02:07:16.6580000-06:00Different diameters are handled by moving the 2nd roller farther out or closer in
2196371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T02:07:41.7400000-06:00You only need a few steps to handle a wide variety
2197371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T02:08:50.2690000-06:00This is one version
2198371416661040955403talkers2018-01-16T02:08:53.7990000-06:00https://www.bosslaser.com/rotary-attachment-roller.html
2199385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-16T13:20:10.6550000-06:00Being able to handle larger diameter objects sounds like a great reason to add that rotary style to our collection.
2200306967333270716416brockelee2018-01-16T23:20:48.2700000-06:00I’m by no means an expert but I seem to recall reading in multiple places that setting output above 65-70% for any laser shortens the lifespan of the tube and also causes less focus in the laser output. Perhaps that’s correlated to Thunders changes?👍 (1)
2201385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-17T14:52:40.2580000-06:00@merissa What time is the next laser maintenance day? I have it down for Sunday, Feb 4th and want to include it on the next paper calendar. Will add to event calendar as well.
2202300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-18T13:02:44.2830000-06:00Will be like last time 11-2 unless there's already a conflict on the calendar
2203300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-18T13:03:02.9690000-06:00I'll submit it for the calendar today👍 (2)
2204403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-18T23:06:34.0810000-06:00OK, I finally installed Discord and found out how to find this space. (by the way, the URL by itself wouldn't ever work for me) I had to install the application, then use the URL to "join a server." Maybe that's clear to you but it wasn't to me and i doubt it will be for any other new discord users. - Clay
2205194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-18T23:07:42.9110000-06:00yeah the webversion doesnt work on mobile very well. best to use the app
2206403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-18T23:07:56.3300000-06:00(I'm on a windows 10 pc) - looks to be an IE11 issue - it works with chrome
2207194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-18T23:11:49.7890000-06:00discord.gg does work then, which url did you use? ill have to check to make sure its correct
2208194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-18T23:12:00.9610000-06:00oh
2209194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-18T23:12:46.6140000-06:00honestly never thought to test on that
2210403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-18T23:17:13.1770000-06:00I used the laser invite link that was just posted on the laser wiki page. Works with Edge and Chrome. IE11 just displays a black page. Could also be corporate security on my computer blocking something that it doesn't like on this page.
2211194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-18T23:18:55.8200000-06:00weird, i cant imagine it was IE actually having the issue. corp probably had "gaming" blocked, discord was intended for game comms but works really well for us since its free
2212300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T16:56:06.9790000-06:00Still wondering... Who took the "rawr" lasersaur strap from the wall?
2213300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T17:05:18.4610000-06:00Anyone know why the laser would be scaling one axis differently than what's in rdworks?
2214334393967015755776agr00902018-01-20T17:18:26.1070000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404414397864345600/IMG_20180120_171749.jpg?ex=67b9b282&is=67b86102&hm=c36ae30b7f920f87b8241bd527fbc6843d175c0d6f470420f08611bbb77e2bf2&
2215334393967015755776agr00902018-01-20T17:18:59.4530000-06:00It's only scaling y, and an unknown amount between 2 and less than 2.54x
2216334393967015755776agr00902018-01-20T17:19:28.9910000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404414661119705089/IMG_20180120_171918.jpg?ex=67b9b2c0&is=67b86140&hm=777168b461b71af01db13cea9b69dcb0ade389a1f2127844ef099e9d3007299e&
2217334393967015755776agr00902018-01-20T17:19:59.0210000-06:00That was a 2x taller and 2.54x taller attempt at scaling in Rd works before downloading to laser
2218334393967015755776agr00902018-01-20T17:22:56.8720000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404415533010780161/IMG_20180120_172207.jpg?ex=67b9b390&is=67b86210&hm=7ea05ef411dd987d13bc48304b6705e4b2b69ab389ee54c151f5024cb96b6879&
2219334393967015755776agr00902018-01-20T17:23:25.6220000-06:00It was the enable rotate engrave checkbox in output tab
2220194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-20T17:26:54.5700000-06:00That'll do it
2221385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-20T17:40:46.9860000-06:00@merissa.... @David Kessinger has told us to provide a copy of NC's lease agreement and proof of 501c3 status before shipping Lasersaur. Do you have that? He brought this requirement up again at the Member meeting.
2222300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T17:41:16.0950000-06:00Thanks Stephenie
2223300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T17:41:58.9860000-06:00They bought a building, I've provided that info to several board members
2224300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T17:43:43.1760000-06:00http://fcwhack.com/
2225385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-20T17:56:50.3670000-06:00Fabulous news! I look forward to perusing their website. So we're just missing 501c3 proof?
2226300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T17:57:30.2380000-06:00I'll get it to the board before the saur ships👍 (1)
2227300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T17:57:50.7720000-06:00Intended to weigh it today but the gantry is in use
2228300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T18:01:28.7070000-06:00Ordering more chairs/stools from amazon today. Looking at wall mounted shelves for above the work table too to display lasered pieces
2229300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T18:02:11.3870000-06:00Anything else we need (other than thunder equipment) that I can order as well?
2230300075929848381451stansimmons20312018-01-20T18:18:57.4210000-06:00Larger SSD's. The little 120GB ones fllled up quickly with profiles. David Summers is working on a powershell script to clean them out regularly
2231300075929848381451stansimmons20312018-01-20T18:19:39.2770000-06:00If you want me to order them and install them, I'll be happy to do so.
2232300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T18:33:58.1800000-06:00Sounds like if David creates that it would solve any potential issue
2233300075929848381451stansimmons20312018-01-20T18:55:27.1510000-06:00alleviate, but not solve... I've been buying nothing smaller than 250gb SSD, high use machines get 500gb
2234300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T19:15:58.1290000-06:00Let's start with not installing any more unnecessary programs on our laser computers please
2235300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T19:29:26.6230000-06:00Strap we used for packing up lasersaur has been replacedhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404447366662586368/20180120_165927.jpg?ex=67b92876&is=67b7d6f6&hm=06a64656e143789964b241f7c10e05104b4ee798956636d5a58e5e985ab3cb12&
2236300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T20:37:42.2070000-06:00Mounted the material board on the wall by the zinghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404464544182829067/20180120_203519.jpg?ex=67b93875&is=67b7e6f5&hm=9f40de40a950348d272b7a1e6b6b72b354d7d34c7c1e4f6e0d65a36eebe25b74&
2237300083517877125121andrew51522018-01-20T22:43:52.7620000-06:00@StanSimmons I'll throw into the space management suggestion that Windows 10 is now equipped with "features" to manage shared workstations that might be worth looking into, if you haven't already: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/set-up-shared-or-guest-pc
2238385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-20T22:55:01.8420000-06:00@merissa would you update the wiki (https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee#Additional_Documentation) with links to where chairs and stools were purchased.? Wiki already has documentation for the whiteboard and standing desk table top. Thx.
2239371416661040955403talkers2018-01-20T22:59:50.6520000-06:00The chairs and stools will be welcome for the classes.
2240371416661040955403talkers2018-01-20T23:00:18.1470000-06:00Thanks @merissa and @AGr for the work you put in today👍 (1)
2241300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T23:47:32.8920000-06:00I did that earlier today Stephenie
2242300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-20T23:47:39.4680000-06:00added toolbox too
2243385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-20T23:51:08.7490000-06:00Awesome!
2244300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-21T00:12:17.3370000-06:00chairs/stools/shelf stuff ordered and should be in by next weekend. Will have two stools for the worktable and two more chairs so there's two per desk👍 (2)
2245385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-21T00:26:32.0370000-06:00That's a great price on the chairs.
2246385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-21T00:28:30.8570000-06:00At the member meeting, the board asked us to create a way for members to give us more pictures of lasered creations for the chromecast. I created a folder for new submissions on the committee drive and posted a request on Talk.
2247300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-21T00:29:08.9360000-06:00sounds good
2248403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-22T16:19:11.0920000-06:00I've seen the "enable rotate engrave" option on RDWorks cause several people headaches (including me). I'm wondering if there's a way using a logon script to reset all RDWorks settings back to a default state. When people mess with the settings, it just causes problems for the next person to use the machines. - I'll research and see what I can come up with.💪 (3)
2249300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-22T16:21:42.1950000-06:00Thanks Clay! If nothing else we need to make/update an faq on common issues and include that
2250371416661040955403talkers2018-01-22T17:20:01.6930000-06:00Same thing with y mirror axis. I don't know why people change it, but it affects others
2251371416661040955403talkers2018-01-22T17:20:23.7150000-06:00RDWorks is pretty random about what settings stick
2252385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T10:27:23.0300000-06:00I've updated the wiki with the link to the Google photo album of the chromecast under Additional Documentation and a placeholder for meeting minutes under the Committee section.
2253385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T10:28:00.1060000-06:00The Google account's password has been saved to the admin wiki.
2254385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T11:19:26.8700000-06:00From the Member Meeting... The four board members present reminded us that it takes approval at a Board Meeting to install a new Chair. Meaning if, @merissa , you postpone vacating your term until February, the new Chair won't be seated until late February's board meeting. The board members were in agreement...they do not want to approve a new Chair to serve only one month. They would expect you to fulfill the term with that short of a remainder. So you would be stuck. I don't know if that matters to you or not at this point, but you did say February 4th meeting was your last day. We did have a super-fast motion + second + voice acclamation at our committee meeting to elect me as chair - even though we all know it was a burst of spontaneous enthusiasm out of relief from those present that none of them would have to take the gig. LOL. Afterwards, we backtracked. No issue there. Still no issue as far as I'm concerned. But it does give you an out if you want to put a motion on this week's Board Meeting agenda to approve me as Chair. Whatever you decide would either move up what you wanted as your retirement date by 9 days or prolong it until April. I'm game either way, no skin off of my back.
2255300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:47:14.7390000-06:00It's funny the board thinks they can force anyone to remain as chair
2256385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:47:38.4340000-06:00Ma'am. I'm just the messenger.
2257385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:47:47.5890000-06:00sigh
2258300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:48:15.0990000-06:00If you are comfortable with becoming chair on friday then that's fine by me, but no one volunteered their name to run at the last meeting, which is why I said it's going to happen in February
2259300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:48:28.8290000-06:00So there was no actual committee vote
2260385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:48:30.6110000-06:00I did. I said I wanted the gig.
2261385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:48:50.4570000-06:00David made a motion, someone shouted second.
2262385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:49:04.2110000-06:00A cheer went up.
2263300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:49:31.6160000-06:00I remember it being Beau nominating you for the february vote
2264385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:50:54.1320000-06:00Correction. @gbeauw . I thought he nominated me for that meeting. Then it all went fast. My misunderstanding.
2265300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:51:57.4560000-06:00Right, either way I'm fine with you taking over if you're ready and the board approves
2266300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:52:36.4540000-06:00Are you ok with me putting on that on the agenda for Friday's meeting?
2267385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:55:12.8790000-06:00Yep. Or I would have kept my head down. LOL. Back when we talked about my interest at the October Open House, I thought it would take a long time to get acclimated. Like as in a year from now. But this group is amazingly active. No Chair has to know everything. Not scary at all.
2268194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T12:56:11.1270000-06:00Hahaha why would they oppose letting a new volunteer take over. That's silly. They are just counting on the fact that you'll stay because they said no
2269385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:56:35.7990000-06:00Me stay or Merissa stay?
2270194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T12:57:04.0180000-06:00Telling a chair that they have to stay because they don't want to make an interim chair for a month
2271385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:57:42.4920000-06:00In this case, the interim is willing to run for a full term, unless the committee has other ideas. It's all good.
2272300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:57:59.5050000-06:00Yep, more unnecessary drama from the board. We have a plan and for no good reason it's unacceptable. .
2273194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T12:58:04.1190000-06:00Right
2274300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:58:13.1320000-06:00Fyi you will be chair until April
2275385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:58:18.0440000-06:00I know.
2276300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T12:58:25.2740000-06:00Then all committees have to have another vote
2277385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:58:25.4460000-06:00Then another election
2278194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T12:58:33.9320000-06:00Which just means Merissa is still the "chair"
2279385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T12:58:50.1940000-06:00Until Friday.
2280194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T12:59:29.7920000-06:00Until the board decides to approve another
2281194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T13:00:05.3490000-06:00But basically you get to act as chair and Merissa just pushes the buttons to make what you request happen
2282385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:00:17.4340000-06:00No.
2283385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:00:40.0330000-06:00Merissa am I not understanding this?
2284300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:00:40.2770000-06:00It will be the same amount of "work"for the board to approve, just spaced out differently than we discussed before
2285300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:01:03.8450000-06:00You're right. I'm stepping down and you will be chair
2286385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:01:11.9470000-06:00got it
2287300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:01:29.6540000-06:00The interim part is that it's only a portion of a 6 month term
2288385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:01:36.4870000-06:00got that too
2289300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:02:58.0430000-06:00If we voted in early feb and vote wasnt ratified by the board till later feb, you wouldnt be official for a short bit and I'd still be chair technically as pearce is talking about🍴 (1)
2290385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:03:15.9280000-06:00ahhh
2291385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:03:42.0530000-06:00emoji fail. I was looking for a lightbulb!
2292194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T13:03:51.4950000-06:00Alright I don't understand that emote at all
2293385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:03:51.7450000-06:00Got knife and fork instead
2294194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-23T13:03:55.9250000-06:00Lolol
2295385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:04:18.4000000-06:00LOL
2296300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:04:26.0660000-06:00That fits perfectly because I'm typing while eating lunch 😁
2297300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:04:56.5230000-06:00Gotta get back to work, will be away for a few hours then will update agenda tonight
2298385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:05:30.6700000-06:00I needed a good laugh. Awesome. All is well. Enjoy your day.
2299300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T13:05:50.4600000-06:00You too!
2300385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T13:12:12.2750000-06:00A word to @MotoPilot ... used the sample board yesterday when a member who had never lasered acrylic wanted advice. Excellent tool. Am glad @merissa found a home for it.
2301300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-23T16:51:06.8100000-06:00👍 we made the acrylic sample this weekend, so glad it came in handy 😀🍴 (1)
2302385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T18:00:54.1030000-06:00I am giving you a knife and fork emoji! Just because it makes me smile now...
2303300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-23T18:22:52.2840000-06:00Thanks
2304300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-23T18:23:39.3360000-06:00Didn’t finish my message before sending. Rest of it follows
2305300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-23T18:28:36.7660000-06:00Thanks to past and future Chairs for the time time you spend and the headaches you endure. The laser area is greatly improved! Thank you also to the members who helped make it happen.👏 (2)
2306403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-23T20:05:23.7380000-06:00regarding RDworks settings - so far I've found that some of the settings are stored in the soft.ini file which is in the same folder as the RDWorks.exe application. There's also a Param.ini file that contains pre-set materials parameters that we could populate if we want to. You can select a material and load the settings in the Layer parameters (where you set speed and power). The rotary engrave setting is a bit tricky. It appears that value is stored in one Hexidecimal value in the "config" file. I think we could restore the soft.ini and config files to a "known good" state in order to reset the settings back to a common set of defaults. Should be easy with a logon script to copy the master files into the RDWorks folder overwriting any existing files there that have been changed by the previous user.dms (1)
2307371416661040955403talkers2018-01-23T20:09:15.4830000-06:00That's great work Clay!
2308385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T20:21:13.0590000-06:00That would solve so many users' headaches.
2309385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-23T23:43:47.8200000-06:00A member has opened a Request ticket to add Fusion 360 + DXFforLaser to the Laser computers. Any downside?
2310371416661040955403talkers2018-01-23T23:59:10.2070000-06:00Not that I see. Light footprint for fusion. It's avail on the jump server, but doesn't work for everyone and has some features unable. Having access on the PCs allow tweaks, just like Inkscape and Illustrator, to sizing and layout.
2311403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T08:21:36.7610000-06:00I'm curious as to why logging onto the jump server doesn't work. (aside from most people not knowing how) You can save files locally or to the members directory.... Seems that it would be easier to not maintain a lot of extra software on each of the laser computers. (and really, converting to .dxf from F360 should be done away from the laser so you're not designing, just cutting while at a machine)dms (1)
2312403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T08:26:48.5930000-06:00Same with Illustrator... why install a license on the laser computer when/if you can run it on the Jump server? I notice it isn't there, though, so maybe that's a licensing limitation?
2313403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T08:36:00.7240000-06:00I also took a look at RDworks on the jump server. When you change settings, they are not saved on that computer because there are no user permissions to change files in the RDWorks folder. It throws an error that it doesn't have access to the tmp files too (which should be fixable though). We might be able to do the same thing on the Laser servers. Just set the RDWorks settings as we want them, and then update permissions on the RDWorks folder to not allow logged on users to write to the settings files.
2314385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:44:33.3040000-06:00Laser has almost 600 members who have completed Laser Basics. I would agree that most do not know how to use the jump server or want to use it. We have 4 computers. Let's make a quick list of what SW should be installed: Inkscape, AI, RDW, Adobe Reader, Fusion360. What else? It seems like a drop in the bucket compared to what's on my machine at home.
2315385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:44:53.1950000-06:00Illustrator does have licensing restrictions. Can't be on jump server.
2316385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:47:02.4280000-06:00The conclusion we've reached in the recent past is that we want the HW and SW consistent throughout Laser.
2317403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T11:48:05.6510000-06:00We should first decide whether the laser computers are primarily design or cut computers. Installing anything other than RDWorks automatically encourages design work on those machines.
2318385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:49:34.5540000-06:00Design is less about SW than it is about where you are in the making process.
2319403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T11:49:40.0910000-06:00Another thought would be an additional design computer in the laser area not connected to the lasers.👍 (2)
2320385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:50:23.8610000-06:00You can have the best design possible, take it to RDW, then find problems once you are here. Everyone needs the ability to "tweek". And that takes the full suite.
2321385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:51:05.3850000-06:00In theory, tweek is not nearly as time consuming as design
2322385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:51:14.4050000-06:00And thus does not impede the queuu
2323385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T11:51:17.1280000-06:00queue
2324403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T11:55:48.1430000-06:00And, while we're brainstorming, you could load your job onto a USB stick from the design computer and plug it into the laser to run. (not as convenient as sending it directly, but you could run a job quickly while the other person is working on their design!)
2325403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T11:59:21.0490000-06:00The primary issue to solve is really when does tweak turn into design, and if there is a queue, encouraging people not to use the laser computers to spend more than a few minutes in the design phase of their work.
2326385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T12:04:52.8640000-06:00That last sentence exactly. It's a human problem, not a tech problem.
2327385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T12:05:00.3230000-06:00Discernment.
2328385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T12:09:59.2200000-06:00I categorize a committee's concerns as: Physical Plant, Classes, Finances, Culture. This falls into Culture.
2329385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T12:14:50.3170000-06:00The solution needs us, the committee members. When I'm up there, which is at least 3x/wk, I walk through laser, greet users, introduce myself, look at the queue, ask if any of those people are now on the machines and need names removed. If lasers are open, I ask if the next person has been called. I'll call them myself if need be. Then I'll gently educate people about queue etiquette. I tell them I'm trying to raise awareness of the queue and that a happy queue makes for a happy Laser area. Everyone so far has responded positively. They usually tell me how much they love the new queue system and that the additional lasers keep the line moving.
2330385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T15:59:13.5520000-06:00@merissa Donner's air assist was on the lowest flow. Fire! Flow was turned back on full. You have access to the cameras. User who reported issue was on around 1:30. Can you see who was on before him? Someone needs an education of the dangers of restricting the air assist, namely forgetting to turn it back on full.
2331385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T16:03:06.0720000-06:00To any one of our maintenance crew: could someone take a look at Donner's optics? Now Donner's pointer is almost invisible. Smoke from fire? Unfortunately, I don't know how to clean it.
2332194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:17:02.9150000-06:00I'll look tonight👍 (1)
2333300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:34:10.5450000-06:00Thanks Stephenie, Pearce. I was afraid of this when discussion came up of people turning it off to help cutting acrylic... Everyone's human so people will forget to turn it back on. Not worth the risk of burning down the space
2334194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:34:53.2910000-06:00But it doesn't help cut acrylic?
2335385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T16:35:05.1420000-06:00Beautiful clear edges
2336194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:35:30.8130000-06:00Power and speed combo does the same for me
2337300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:35:32.6980000-06:00Someone said it does. I have no first hand experience with that
2338194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:36:28.0800000-06:00And that's from using the one we have at poly now. Mostly turning the air down will help with paper stuff
2339385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T16:36:33.0950000-06:00@MotoPilot gave me a demonstration. What settings do you recommend, @pearce ?
2340194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:37:03.9610000-06:00Different per machine. I couldn't give you numbers based on mine
2341385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T16:37:11.3020000-06:00understood
2342194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:37:23.8720000-06:00And mine change over time
2343194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:38:05.7820000-06:00But it still sounds like it was turned down way too low
2344300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:38:32.8140000-06:00That's why we should always stress test cuts
2345194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:38:33.6120000-06:00You should still have enough air flow to clear the nozzle
2346300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:39:09.2050000-06:00Pearce what psi do you keep your air at?
2347194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:39:12.7910000-06:00There's also the fact that we are using a 130w tube for stuff that people should be using lower wattage for
2348194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:39:41.6740000-06:00I'll get psi later, James won't be up yet
2349300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:39:55.9630000-06:00👍
2350194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:40:06.7710000-06:00The analogy I use is scalpel work with a chainsaw
2351300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:40:23.8000000-06:00Couldnt find recommendation from thunder
2352194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:42:00.3680000-06:00I used to keep the single thunder between 20-40 I think
2353300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T16:51:47.0680000-06:00@AGr what's the air assist setting currently?
2354194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:56:15.1610000-06:00Back when I made these badges I had initially planned on using the thunder for all parts of it. There's a huge difference between the orange panel and the rest of them because I found that that lower wattage zing gave much better results for edges and fine rasteringhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405858366934482964/JPEG_20180124_165423.jpg?ex=67b9ad4f&is=67b85bcf&hm=59bcbfca8c9cc02d9d101f7e0626ec4aaffbcb2dde922555f283b4fd1feb3ddf&
2355194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T16:57:49.7290000-06:00That's just as the zing sits. No removing safeties
2356334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T16:57:51.8420000-06:0015 last I saw
2357334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T17:01:54.9690000-06:00I think someone turned it down from 20-25 I had it at, also that is a cheap regulator above all 4 lines, dont know if the regulator has a cfm limit (if psi at nozzle would drop if all 4 lasers are going at once)
2358194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T17:04:35.6630000-06:00I should also add that we don't have a huge air tank so the poly laser uses the little compressor that came with the machine
2359194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:15:36.6280000-06:00Welphttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405878337492221962/JPEG_20180124_181530.jpg?ex=67b9bfe8&is=67b86e68&hm=a7ebb8b984e0b897a5cdd07a0599a963a7599ebd3a9b4aeb98aed4b09875260f&
2360194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:15:53.9980000-06:00It caught fire at some point
2361194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:16:39.8610000-06:00Annnnd it's crackedhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405878602714972170/JPEG_20180124_181621.jpg?ex=67b9c027&is=67b86ea7&hm=2f8b39c0f23c9f8d977953cb03fc773c69b10e0653e2558858eba0742f7d5b5d&
2362385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T18:16:40.1900000-06:00Spare parts need ordering?
2363194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:17:55.0420000-06:00Air still flows through. No holes. But this part should never be this close to flame. (The air pushes the fire to the back of the cuts)
2364385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T18:19:28.5450000-06:00Surely it's not operational?
2365194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:22:28.7860000-06:00Nope. Will be laterdms (1)
2366385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T18:23:44.5780000-06:00fyi...@Lady L has not added Donner and Blitzen to Status Board, so can't update that.
2367194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:28:52.2140000-06:007 replacement lenses remaining😀 (1)
2368194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:29:13.2220000-06:00New air connection installed
2369194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:29:43.7620000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405881890625683477/JPEG_20180124_182939.jpg?ex=67b9c337&is=67b871b7&hm=9039d716b71b907a9bc8a595b3025e667674abc33ccde979635b44f494fa28b2&
2370385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T18:30:09.4730000-06:00How many spares of those left?
2371194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:30:42.8720000-06:001
2372194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:30:58.7870000-06:00I took it off the wide mouth holder
2373194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:31:37.7070000-06:00Suggest we remove this connection from the laser and replace with non adjustablehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405882368461635584/JPEG_20180124_183134.jpg?ex=67b9c3a9&is=67b87229&hm=47b999a7ffc2de5d44e273dea9db6d72e497f2fdb2fa725f1b64da82e8f80d6c&
2374194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T18:35:40.5620000-06:00Donner cuts, no smoke, no firedms (1)
2375385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-24T19:19:03.6240000-06:00Once again, we owe you @pearce .
2376300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T20:13:47.0720000-06:00Yes, much appreciated!
2377300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:25:16.6940000-06:00Stephenie when yall reopened the air assist earlier was it fully closed?
2378403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T21:27:39.0490000-06:00Cutting acrylic cleanly really needs air assist turned almost to zero. The issue is remembering to turn it back on. Need to brainstorm on some way to remind people who turn it off to turn it back on again when they're done. Might also need to add "check air assist" to training and a "pre-laser checklist." A two-sided sign perhaps that you turn over and back depending on whether it is on or off? Maybe something affixed to the valve to indicate that air assist is off? (an indicator that is easy to see?) Or perhaps something similar to a "remove before flight" flag that reminds you to turn it back on once you've turned it off?
2379300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:34:57.3020000-06:00I've always been satisfied with my cuts/etches on acrylic with our current system.
2380300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:36:21.4410000-06:00The risk of fire and damaging our equipment is just too great in my opinion
2381300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:37:59.1230000-06:00With ~800 laser users, it's hard to add a step to the process to ensure safe laser use each time
2382403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T21:41:40.5950000-06:00All equipment can/will be damaged by lack of training and communication about proper usage. If you want to dumb the machine down to the least common denominator, it isn't very useful for those who want to use it for what it was intended for and to get good results.
2383403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T21:42:31.3310000-06:00When planes crash, they don't stop flying. You learn from what happend, create new training and new procedures to avoid the same thing from happening again, and press onward.
2384300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:49:00.3330000-06:00I'd recommend you attend the next committee meeting. It can be a topic of discussion there
2385403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T21:49:00.5550000-06:00Today's laser training materials don't even MENTION Air Assist, or why it is important in the first place. It is a critical thing to get right when cutting anything!
2386403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T21:49:11.8000000-06:00Happy to.
2387300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:49:34.5510000-06:00I think it's not mentioned because users should not be adjusting it
2388300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:50:00.9410000-06:00it all predates me though, so I'm just going off assumption
2389300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T21:50:41.1900000-06:00it definitely all needs updating, but what I'm saying is that we don't have a very effective way to retrain all the currently trained laser users
2390334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T22:21:18.6610000-06:00https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Fitting-Tough-Straight-Connector/dp/B00E1GP5HC
2391334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T22:22:14.8750000-06:00could replace the current valve on the air assist line
2392194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:24:18.9650000-06:00yep thats all we need
2393334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T22:24:43.9730000-06:00Wait, it might be 6mm, I remember its the metric slightly less than 1/4
2394334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T22:25:03.8980000-06:00https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Pneumatic-Straight-Connectors-Fittings/dp/B009ERTKHE
2395403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T22:26:24.8440000-06:00Before we all knee jerk this thing... let's all sit down and talk in person about what the best action is. If you do this, the next person is just going to turn off the air at the regulator, thereby turning off air assist on 3 machines and you'll have an even bigger problem.
2396334393967015755776agr00902018-01-24T22:26:34.3220000-06:00There are likely some 6mm to 1/4npt fittings under table right now if someone wanted to use a 1/4 npt female coupler tonight
2397194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:26:43.1230000-06:00no we shouldnt be adjusting the air flow
2398403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T22:29:18.6250000-06:00and the person who turned off air assist on donner should have turned it back on. Air flow is DESIGNED to be adjusted on the machines becuase different materials need a different setting. That's why there is a valve in the first place. Someone's improper use of the machine (forgetting to turn it back on) is the issue. removing the valve solves one problem, but potentially creates 2 more, so you should think carefully about the possible downstream effects of doing that. Just sayin...
2399194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:31:23.8050000-06:00weve already proved that its more problematic than its worth
2400403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T22:31:37.8000000-06:00with one fire in several years?
2401194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:33:24.4080000-06:00its not the fire thats the issue
2402194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:33:34.9180000-06:00the lens was destroyed
2403300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T22:34:03.6560000-06:00umm... any fire is a big issue!
2404300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T22:34:26.4730000-06:00doesn't take any time at all to get out of control
2405300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T22:34:33.0910000-06:00if someone isn't paying attention
2406194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:37:38.5320000-06:00if you want lower air assist you should use the zing
2407403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T22:37:46.2740000-06:00ok, whatever. There will be more fires, air assist valve or not. You budget for a few damaged lenses and move on. I still think the trianing is weak, could be vastly improved, and a few "reminder signs" on the lasers would go a long way towards educating people about the dangers of the lasers, and the things they need to pay attention to in order to avoid damage to the machines. You can put training wheels on the equipment all day long, and eventually someone is still going to find a way to break something. And if one fire is out of control.... let's see if this happens again this year before jumping to conclusions.
2408194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:38:01.3920000-06:00you are effectivly turning off a saftey
2409403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T22:38:16.6830000-06:00and you're effectively saying don't cut acrylic on the thunder
2410194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:38:21.8720000-06:00wrong
2411403773002006921229motopilot_2018-01-24T22:38:27.6790000-06:00I'm out.
2412194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:38:38.8970000-06:00i cut acrylic on the thunder professionally
2413300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-24T22:38:43.3540000-06:00pearce probably has more experience cutting acrylic at the space than any other member
2414194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-24T22:38:55.7200000-06:00my thunder*
2415385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T00:46:14.3010000-06:00It can well be worth remembering that laser cutting can fail in a multitude of ways. Even with air assist running fires can and will happen. https://hackaday.com/2016/05/31/how-to-fail-at-laser-cutting/
2416385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T00:47:28.6510000-06:00"The risk of fire is never zero, even on jobs and materials that have previously run without problems. These failures cannot really be predicted and occur with little or no warning"
2417109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T10:03:03.3170000-06:00wow such light
2418109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T10:03:43.1810000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406116936775368705/Screen_Shot_2018-01-25_at_10.03.20_AM.png?ex=67b94c9f&is=67b7fb1f&hm=fce1a2e3439c6e762e62d0a01c27f17f236ddab852136ce5c2c1887e79e84859&
2419334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T10:27:09.9540000-06:00It's not the same color temp, do you have more of the led replacements?
2420109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T10:32:04.9930000-06:00The electrician could not get the LED tubes we have to work in that fixture
2421300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-25T11:18:59.9830000-06:00Since we are have issues with the air assist pressure, I suggest we add something to the training materials pre-checklist. Along with checking that the CO2 nozzles works, always check that the air assist pressure is x.
2422385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T13:22:37.9560000-06:00Laser Basics training materials does not have an explicit pre-checklist. I added a "Prep for fire safety" item to top of General Procedures. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SufIBiCeqGhcpOA9MKTTIdf4LPZ_xQiR8p3Mq1Kb-5k/
2423385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T13:23:06.3460000-06:00I threw up a PSA slideshow on the Chromecast last night. Improving it to be more educational today.
2424334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T14:12:12.9180000-06:00@LukeStrickland What is the size and tube spec in that fixture currently? What is color temp of the other led tubes?
2425109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T14:22:44.6000000-06:004ft T8 5000K 1800 Lumen LED is the other bulbs in the space
2426109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T14:23:10.7730000-06:00I don't know what he put in that fixture, I'll be there tonight and can look at it
2427385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T14:59:57.8630000-06:00Here are the PSA slides. Our members do pay attention to the screen. This is the easiest way to reach already-trained users. Currently, these are running as an album. I've halted the Showcase temporarily. The PSA slides are also included in the Showcase, when we've lowered the DEFCON level. Please speak up if edits are in order. https://photos.app.goo.gl/gKiGsD2AFU2S3ALh2
2428300077286840074241tomthm99002018-01-25T15:33:15.1740000-06:00Good idea (and job) on the PSA slides!
2429334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T15:41:16.6490000-06:00Too many words, how about this picture, with text "If there is a visible flame, stop cutting, you are doing something wrong."https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406201886673469450/burnt-laser-arcbotics-com.png?ex=67b99bbc&is=67b84a3c&hm=2b51d4617589bc3101dec319daca32c6ec7f89c52c458e0f203d15e0ee18087c&
2430334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T15:43:58.9870000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202567006355456/laser_cutter_fire.png?ex=67b99c5e&is=67b84ade&hm=019bb6f6e92a7934ee67f33c4cfde6f90119af4b86a68efd27e6cd7afec3cf28&
2431334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T15:44:07.7360000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202603303862301/f03.png?ex=67b99c67&is=67b84ae7&hm=a2ed572d2dfc33a33a5c2fef6bd761ff3bf1fcfe0e29f531f78cc0a7eac1c1e5&
2432334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T15:44:26.8500000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202683360411648/201620-201.png?ex=67b99c7a&is=67b84afa&hm=3d22800f1b19406d0022867376c582a7d0de6c05c74f32e9246608656de694e1&
2433334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T15:44:42.2480000-06:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202749017915392/3227283_1423107037.png?ex=67b99c8a&is=67b84b0a&hm=0bae63103c8b8152c2db9865ff7feb17f5543a40eb9d8e3631c33ab495a5b234&
2434334393967015755776agr00902018-01-25T15:45:57.1480000-06:00This is a well made guide http://www.tcmaker.org/wiki/images/c/ce/Basic_Laser_Packet.pdf
2435385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T16:32:11.6850000-06:00I understand about too many words, which I lifted from our Laser Basic's training guide. The beauty of a slideshow...we can h ave both the wordy slide and your excellent picture collection (which reminds me of the scary videos shown during Driver's Ed class back in my day!). I've captured them and will incorporate them ASAP.
2436385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T16:40:38.0080000-06:00Made a trip to the Space. I've revised my walk-through spiel. Not only greeting people, asking about th eir laser job, and checking the queue, I'm also conducting a safety check. I tell the members what I'm doing and why and make them part of the solution: verifying the fire extinguisher's location, checking the valve position, and testing the CO2 hose.
2437300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-25T17:10:49.6480000-06:00Just getting caught up with today's discussion
2438300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-25T17:11:16.9560000-06:00@LukeStrickland thank you so much for handling the lighting improvement!
2439300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-25T17:12:02.7110000-06:00@stephenie I have some suggestions on the psa but will discuss with you tomorrow if we can find some time after the meeting?
2440300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-25T17:12:56.5420000-06:00(plan to duck out of the meeting at least after they get to our chair approval item, then work in the laser area some)
2441385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T17:13:01.4390000-06:00Sounds fine. In person often best.👍 (1)
2442385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T17:35:15.9440000-06:00@merissa what work do you have in mind in the laser area? Or is it a personal project?
2443300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-25T17:40:55.5250000-06:00Bringing in the stuff I discussed purchasing last week... Chairs and stools, shelves for over laser worktable for a place to display lasered items, then checking computer performance and general area cleanup
2444385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T17:41:59.8100000-06:00Link to shelving?
2445300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-25T17:44:34.7760000-06:00About to be driving... Will pull it up in amazon later and share👍 (1)
2446109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T22:55:17.0700000-06:00there's some LED bulbs on the laser table you're welcome to use Brandon👍 (1)
2447385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-25T23:14:05.5220000-06:00@merissa Stan was telling me that Laser procured its own computers. When you update the Additional Documentaton with the new shelving, would you also add documentation on our computers and monitors?
2448334393967015755776agr00902018-01-26T00:36:25.7930000-06:00posted 11/14/2017, search in:laser dell
2449371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T01:01:03.3360000-06:00@AGr#0090 got link? I searched here, Talk, and the wiki. No luck.
2450109359055532732416clone10182018-01-26T09:04:31.3330000-06:00@john a gorman does this work for you? https://discordapp.com/channels/300062029559889931/300063130527203328?jump=380065483795333131
2451300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-26T09:12:33.3930000-06:00Laser bought the two computers on the back wall, the thunder computer predates me, and the donner computer was installed by infrastructure last month when the old zing computer crapped out. Stan would have to provide information on that one as I don't have any details.
2452300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-26T09:13:13.7350000-06:00Will be figuring out if the shelves work as envisioned before adding to wiki
2453334393967015755776agr00902018-01-26T13:37:25.6420000-06:00Apparently its not possible to link to a past message in discord,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406533105726259222/unknown.png?ex=67b97eb5&is=67b82d35&hm=f90f163887119dc1dd46650d86af5ef6a8d4dc817746220d1911fc20c101d48a&
2454371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T14:01:29.9460000-06:00Thanks @AGr . I had tried searching "Laser dell" in here.
2455371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T14:01:46.8600000-06:00Thanks @merissa too for the info
2456385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-26T15:37:36.9910000-06:00That's very helpful. Thanks.
2457371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T16:31:27.3040000-06:00Aaron got the error Illustrator license expired on Blitzen.
2458371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T16:47:09.8120000-06:00The zing is making a grating noise on raising the bed. John, who makes the boogie wood glasses, says the bed doesn't go as low as it used to before the move. His jig no longer fits without removing the bed. He etches the arms of his glasses. I'll try to look at it this weekend.
2459300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-26T16:49:28.0700000-06:00Relocating it would not have done anything to the bed level
2460371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T16:53:53.2010000-06:00No, I don't think so either. I said it more for the time frame
2461371416661040955403talkers2018-01-26T16:55:21.3880000-06:00I wonder if something is jammed under, or broken on the front right post. It seems to bottom out before the others
2462300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-26T16:59:03.5320000-06:00Hmm maybe. I'll try to remember to look tonight as well
2463385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-26T18:42:24.0600000-06:00Stan uninstalled/reinstalled Illustrator. Still got the error on both Zing and Blitzen PCs. He said that makes no sense and he is on it.
2464300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-27T00:09:17.6320000-06:00Congrats to @stephenie! She's been named new chairperson of our awesome committee, and I know she'll do a great job leading us. Thanks for your service to DMS Stephenie :)
2465385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-27T01:33:48.3900000-06:00And thank you @merissa for your service to Laser. To the committee: tonight we were conferring in Laser. I had Merissa turn around and just look, really look, at the sight of the fruits of her effort. A major military maneuver, getting those new lasers.
2466109359055532732416clone10182018-01-27T20:16:11.9740000-06:00Just FYI don't know if it matters but the blower for thunder kicked on for a minute and kicked off
2467385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-27T20:17:33.3750000-06:00Did you hear it or was it reported by a member?
2468109359055532732416clone10182018-01-27T20:18:35.0210000-06:00Sorry forgot to finish my message.no one is at the lasers. I'm at the work tables eating and noticed it
2469109359055532732416clone10182018-01-27T20:18:42.1940000-06:00Walked over and everything looked fine
2470385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-27T20:22:11.5740000-06:00Understood. Good know you observed it firsthand. Making note of it in a log. This is not the first time this has happened, right?
2471109359055532732416clone10182018-01-27T20:23:15.8530000-06:00I personally know nothing😁 (1)
2472194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-27T20:28:54.2210000-06:00It's a known issue. It does it from time to time but not when the blowers are on
2473194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-27T20:29:13.8630000-06:00Actively used*?
2474385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-27T20:35:22.3280000-06:00Thank you @pearce .
2475109359055532732416clone10182018-01-27T20:46:23.3400000-06:00Just happened again
2476109359055532732416clone10182018-01-27T20:46:34.3580000-06:00Good to know it's known
2477371416661040955403talkers2018-01-28T03:11:23.8180000-06:00Seems to be about every 30-40 minutes the blowers will kick on for about 30-60 seconds.
2478385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-28T19:53:42.5250000-06:00Thank you to @tomthm for notifying us of the low CO2 canister. To @StanSimmons for showing me were the full canisters are stowed (in electrical room behind a door). To @LukeStrickland and @somecallmery for performing the change out.
2479385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-28T19:54:42.9420000-06:00We have an empty now that needs a pick up/refill from AirGas. @merissa, what is the procedure?
2480385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-28T19:55:43.8590000-06:00And does the cost come out of Laser's funds?
2481300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:09:23.4600000-06:00I never had to replace a tank so I'm not sure
2482300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:10:48.4050000-06:00The control box that controls the blower can have voltage leaks that will trip the blower for 30 seconds
2483300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:11:30.2230000-06:00The control box is what we had to do to work around the tl timer board that's always had issues
2484300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:12:26.0900000-06:00The blower coming on shouldnt harm anything, other than seeming like we have a ghost in laser 😁
2485385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-28T20:30:09.9600000-06:00Thanks for the prompt reply. Plan B is to check w/ Metal Shop. Stan has the contact info and account number in the admin wiki, which helps. I've documented the change out steps on the wiki.
2486385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-28T20:38:30.1220000-06:00We'll be able to track CO2 consumption now.
2487300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:38:31.4860000-06:00Yeah I think Chuck will know since they replace tanks more frequently in metal shop👍 (1)
2488300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:41:52.0520000-06:00Brandon took a pic of the dial during a maintenance day. On Dec 5th the tank had 650 psi
2489300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:44:32.6310000-06:00@pearce can you update the laser committee chair to @stephenie ?
2490194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-28T20:47:58.8160000-06:00Can later
2491300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-28T20:52:47.8480000-06:00Thanks!
2492371416661040955403talkers2018-01-29T00:12:57.1640000-06:00@merissa I really tried to add a "ghost in the machine" image to my post last night, lol👻 (1)
2493194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-29T00:35:16.1880000-06:00@stephenie you now have the @laser chair role, and @ committee chair role, use #committee_chairs chat to talk with other chairs and not have extra comments from non chairs
2494385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-29T00:38:56.6370000-06:00Thank you @pearce
2495109359055532732416clone10182018-01-29T08:51:36.4040000-06:00Stephanie, Lee in metal shop recommended writing EMPTY on the bottle with chalk. Seemed like a good idea
2496385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-29T13:03:58.2860000-06:00I marked the shroud before we moved it to the back wall. Will pick up some chalk for future use.
2497300083517877125121andrew51522018-01-29T13:18:23.1170000-06:00@stephenie Although Lee did, in fact, say "chalk", I might suggest just 'borrowing" the soapstone metal markers from the Welding toolchest. There are usually several pieces of it floating around, and it works very well for this purpose. Of course, maybe there's some reason NOT to do this, but since it wipes off fairly easily, I can't imagine why that would be objectionable. Of course, buying your own chalk is perfectly fine, too...
2498385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-29T13:19:16.4270000-06:00Thanks for the tip!
2499385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-29T13:49:16.7850000-06:00Team Laser, I'm keeping a running list of Action Items on our gmail account (the one set up to archive the chromecast photos). Anyone with the link (http://bit.ly/2BCfe5h fo) can make suggestions in the Google Doc. Don't panic when you see the length. If I don't write things down, I forget. People are coming at me with issues and ideas. My poor brain runneth over. Some of these items will form Sunday's meeting agenda. If you particularly want to discuss an item, start here on Discord and we'll carry it over if need be. In anticipation of a noisy warehouse, I grabbed the conference room; other rooms already taken...yikes! I run a tight meeting and am tough on excess chatter. Anything over an hour can be continued while we perform maintenance. Less than an hour? Woo-hoo...less talk, more work, go home early! Now for the important part...John has put in a request for street tacos to be our fuel of choice on Sunday. If I call in an order to El Paisa, will someone volunteer to do pick-up?
2500306285952303759360davidkessinger97072018-01-29T14:17:29.9580000-06:00Maybe some Laser etched wood tags they read EMPTY with magnet on backdms (1)
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