the-usurper-archive/discord-evidence/full_exports/PlainText/DallasMakerspace - Committees - printmaking [570474333726703627].txt

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Guild: DallasMakerspace
Channel: Committees / printmaking
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[5/5/2019 9:08 PM] anutterbutter
Steam roll print moved to May 19, 2019.


[6/2/2019 12:20 AM] ardamass
Hi yall just to let you know we have our own discord sever of our own at https://discord.gg/YCkBmGj


[6/2/2019 1:19 AM] aceat64


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[6/2/2019 1:51 AM] draco_the_drake
@aceat64 ... I can't speak to the specific reason for this specific discord but I would imagine that some people don't like other people and want to be able to set the rules and tone and cannot do it on Talk or here.


[6/2/2019 1:52 AM] aceat64
We can setup permissions for moderation on a per-channel basis though, I'm a big fan of simplification of communication channels


[6/2/2019 1:53 AM] aceat64
Fragmentation decreases the ability to communicate effectively

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[6/2/2019 1:56 AM] draco_the_drake
What I suggest then is to make that information avaliable to people.   One reason that I think people go with something outside is for its equality in ownership.   What I mean is that Discord doesn't have a dog in the hunt when it comes to DMS.  Facebook groups do not either.   But the admins of this server and Talk do.


[6/2/2019 1:58 AM] draco_the_drake
I think people feel that there is a fairness that they can get from having their own server or group outside of DMS, that they couldn't get inside


[6/2/2019 2:04 AM] draco_the_drake
But I am with you on the fragmentation... I wish there was a good solution to having independent areas that are on;y moderated and managed by those that create it.


[6/2/2019 2:04 AM] draco_the_drake
but under the same thing


[6/2/2019 2:04 AM] draco_the_drake
People could easily find and subscribe to the groups they want or create new ones for projects


[6/2/2019 2:05 AM] draco_the_drake
The easiest for most people is create a facebook group or discord server ... they make it simple to do rather than asking permission


[6/2/2019 3:05 AM] canibalcrab
Let's take it to #general_chatter


[6/5/2019 3:36 PM] lavarocks.
Why have one method of communication when we can fragment into a thousand so no new members know which end is up. 👇


[6/5/2019 3:39 PM] nullinterface
because #DMSTalkIsBad


[6/5/2019 3:49 PM] canibalcrab
Shoo! Back to general! This is printmaking. Shoo!


[6/5/2019 3:54 PM] lavarocks.
Lol


[6/5/2019 3:59 PM] stephenie.
squatters rights

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[6/9/2019 3:00 PM] hardsuit


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[6/9/2019 3:01 PM] hardsuit
Kermit is up and running!


[6/9/2019 3:02 PM] canibalcrab
Nice!


[6/9/2019 4:43 PM] kenpurcell
Seriously nice!


[6/10/2019 8:32 AM] nullinterface
6-station press?


[6/10/2019 4:14 PM] kenpurcell
Reminds of the days working in a t-shirt shop making concert tees. The promoters used to go in advance a couple of weeks and had most shirts made locally. I often got to wear one on the morning of the concert and everyone asked how the hell I did that. Also used to make the shirts for Fletcher's Corny Dogs. Skip Fletcher was too cheap for an extra screen so we have to hand paint in the tongue.

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[6/13/2019 1:28 PM] lavarocks.
Hey all, I want to participate in the t shirt committee class but we want yo have a contest for best logo.


[7/18/2019 10:37 AM] adam1334
With the effective exit of the two main teachers in Printmaking - Who else around the space can teach some of these classes?  Just looking for brainstorming ideas.  It's my understanding that the supplies are fairly well stocked there.


[7/18/2019 1:33 PM] lavarocks.
@judy Kriehn


[7/18/2019 2:39 PM] judykriehn3727
Astrud and Paul havent “exited” to my knowledge, but are taking the rest of the summer off.  I think the long term plan is to do one month on, one month off. I dunno if any of the serger fiends she has created will pick up that torch for Sewing, but When I talked to Astrud last week, she said that Mushashi is gearing up to take over teaching the silk screen classes. Rose is qualified to teach a few things, but hasn’t worked up the courage to leave the nest just yet. Stephenie will probably take on some of the laser/woodblock classes at some point, but her attention is focused on the finance committee and Nicks senior year of high school at the moment.

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[7/18/2019 2:59 PM] canibalcrab
Gorman used to teach the screen printing classes after I stopped


[7/18/2019 5:17 PM] hardsuit
Two months on, one month off

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[7/18/2019 5:19 PM] canibalcrab
Thats not bad


[7/18/2019 5:19 PM] hardsuit
Considering Astrud has been teaching an average of 2+ classes a week for most of a year, I don't think it's unreasonable to take a month or two off as a mental break


[7/18/2019 5:20 PM] hardsuit
Especially since she's ramping up into a new job that started three weeks ago.

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[7/18/2019 5:20 PM] hardsuit
We'll be back, don't worry.

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[7/18/2019 5:21 PM] canibalcrab
It's a much better class than I ever expected to teach when I was doing it


[7/18/2019 5:23 PM] hardsuit
Which one?  She has over a dozen different classes...


[7/18/2019 5:23 PM] hardsuit
T-shirts and totes?


[7/18/2019 5:26 PM] canibalcrab
Shit


[7/18/2019 5:26 PM] canibalcrab
I was only teaching how the screen printing press worked and getting some free labor out of it making DMS shirts


[7/18/2019 5:28 PM] hardsuit
Yeah, we have regiggered the T-shirt and totes class to generate a dozen(ish) batch of shirts & totes for PR each time we do it, and will be doing the same for the micro registration multicolor screen printing class

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[7/18/2019 5:29 PM] hardsuit
Need to come up with a few more multicolor DMS designs


[7/18/2019 6:22 PM] talkers
Screen printing is a lot of fun.


[7/24/2019 7:20 PM] denzuko
anyone up for a dms zine? Would be based around making, indie music, and hacking


[7/25/2019 12:28 AM] mizgeek
Paper or digital?


[7/25/2019 8:19 AM] denzukoatwork2317
no reason why we couldn't do both but paper prefered


[7/25/2019 12:55 PM] mizgeek
My inner ecologist hates to kill trees for ephemeral knowledge. Art is different. 😁


[7/25/2019 12:56 PM] mizgeek
Don’t even speculate how much cotton I have killed. 😝


[7/26/2019 9:50 AM] denzukoatwork2317
lol


[7/26/2019 9:53 AM] denzukoatwork2317
the archlogist in me is pondering if they always have lived on deciduous trees or was that an adaptation? Maybe they started to do the longer periods to survive doing ice ages that only lasted 13-16 years which would hint at there being a flora compointent to match


[7/26/2019 9:54 AM] denzukoatwork2317
there's even wasps and fungi that have adapted to be natural predators to them so.. something is there


[7/26/2019 9:55 AM] denzukoatwork2317
sorry, I know.. the weird things my mind ponders about


[7/29/2019 7:42 AM] judykriehn3727
Reminder: Printmaking Committee election tonight. 7 pm in printmaking committee area.

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[7/29/2019 1:40 PM] mizgeek
I have to help Wayne with a music video shoot. I’m sorry.


[7/29/2019 1:41 PM] mizgeek
And I like how your mind ponders, @denzuko-at-work


[8/16/2019 6:06 PM] judykriehn3727
Printmaking Committee meeting on Monday night @ 7 pm (Aug 19) in Printmaking committee area. Be there or be square.


[8/22/2019 11:45 AM] denzukoatwork2317
On siting a lot of items from the studio this Saturday afternoon. So be sure to look out for the donations to Printmaking


[9/1/2019 10:59 PM] stephenie.


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[9/1/2019 11:00 PM] stephenie.
Steamroller print.  Framed at Tom and Lisa's shop, Premier Gallery.

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[9/2/2019 6:56 PM] hardsuit
Beautiful!


[9/11/2019 6:19 PM] judykriehn3727
Next committee meeting is on Monday, sept 16 at 7 pm


[10/1/2019 12:09 PM] judykriehn3727
FYI- the electrical work is scheduled to start on or about Thursday n the Flex area, and take 2-3 weeks to complete.

The Expansion team has requested that all of the worktables in the middle of the space be vacated and kept that way until the work is complete. With workers up and down ladders above the dropped ceiling, they don’t want to risk having projects or personal property damaged in the process.

I would also suggest making sure that printmaking projects are not left out in the committee area anywhere near the south warehouse wall, since the committee is getting several outlets installed there.


[10/11/2019 11:36 PM] judykriehn3727
The Printmaking chairman election and October committee meeting will be held at 7 pm on Monday, Oct. 21, gathered around the tall table in the Printmaking area.


[10/11/2019 11:37 PM] judykriehn3727
FYI, I will not be seeking re-election as chair. I'm passing the virtual brayer to somebody else...


[10/25/2019 9:45 PM] Deleted User
Hey guys is there anyone that may be able to cert me on 3d printing?


[10/25/2019 10:17 PM] michaelb5250
Try #3d_fab, printmaking does things like letter press and silk-screening


[10/25/2019 10:27 PM] Deleted User
Oh I see. I may need to utilize the screen printing at some point too though. I've screen printed before but can't remember how to make the negatives for it.


[11/24/2019 9:23 PM] judykriehn3727
The co-chairs of Printmaking have scheduled a committee meeting for 7 pm on Monday December 2 in the Printmaking area.


[6/29/2020 3:29 PM] hon1nbo
@judy Kriehn @Hardsuit where are the rules posted regarding ink and dye that aren't allowed?


[6/29/2020 3:57 PM] hardsuit
That's probably the issue, it's a "known" thing by regulars, and is taught in classes to access equipment, but not posted


[6/29/2020 3:58 PM] hardsuit
If they bring in everything including their own press, then they won't be aware


[6/29/2020 3:58 PM] hon1nbo
well they're using the sink, and it is labelled on the bottle with the aquatic notice.


[6/29/2020 3:59 PM] hon1nbo
having it posted though is going to be important


[6/29/2020 4:10 PM] yashsedai
So I'm still not following why it's prohibited


[6/29/2020 4:10 PM] yashsedai
Can someone help me understand?


[6/29/2020 4:14 PM] yashsedai
The stuff cleans up with mineral spirits


[6/29/2020 4:23 PM] hardsuit
It's ***on the label*** of the ink that it's hazardous to aquatic life


[6/29/2020 4:23 PM] hardsuit
You DO NOT flush that stuff down any sink, drain, etc


[6/29/2020 4:23 PM] yashsedai
eh


[6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai
thats not how sewers work man


[6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai
and you wouldn't be dumping it down the drain


[6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai
you'd be adding soap first....


[6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai
this is industry standard stuff


[6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai
why the fuss


[6/29/2020 4:25 PM] yashsedai
everything oil based is "harmful to aquatic life"....


[6/29/2020 4:25 PM] hardsuit
We stopped using mineral spirits at least two years ago


[6/29/2020 4:26 PM] hardsuit
It's on the label!!!


[6/29/2020 4:26 PM] yashsedai
i'm not hearing a why, i'm hearing "its scary" and "its bad"


[6/29/2020 4:26 PM] hardsuit
You don't put it down the drain, period!


[6/29/2020 4:26 PM] yashsedai
ok, so how do you dispose of it then?


[6/29/2020 4:26 PM] yashsedai
after usage


[6/29/2020 4:27 PM] hardsuit
Wipe it off with paper towels and put in fireproof trash can
 It's also highly flammable.  Which is ALSO on the label


[6/29/2020 4:28 PM] yashsedai
so is tons of shit at dms


[6/29/2020 4:29 PM] hardsuit
I'll admit we don't have it visibly posted, which we will fix ASAP.


[6/29/2020 4:29 PM] yashsedai
So here's where i sit, you need to put on the wiki a set of rules voted by the committee


[6/29/2020 4:29 PM] yashsedai
not what used to be


[6/29/2020 4:29 PM] hardsuit
But it's been committee policy and actively taught in classes for years that we don't do non water based inks


[6/29/2020 4:29 PM] yashsedai
There is no committee policy


[6/29/2020 4:30 PM] yashsedai
tribal knowledge isn't policy


[6/29/2020 4:31 PM] hardsuit
Dude, not your committee


[6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai
dude


[6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai
your not either


[6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai
you don't get to say yea verily that something is or isn't


[6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai
i'm over people acting as if they get the say when its committee based


[6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai
put a set of rules together and vote on them


[6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai
then you can tout that its the will of the committee


[6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai
until then


[6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai
you have no standing for banning anyone or regulating it


[6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai
"because its committee policy"


[6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai
oh and by the way


[6/29/2020 4:34 PM] yashsedai
dms members = committee


[6/29/2020 4:36 PM] hardsuit
It's been committee policy AND taught in classes for over two years


[6/29/2020 4:36 PM] yashsedai
THERE IS NO COMMITTEE POLICY


[6/29/2020 4:36 PM] ferricyanide7475
So is the city not monitoring DMS's output? I thought that was what was told to science and that nothing the city would dislike is to go down the drain.


[6/29/2020 4:36 PM] hardsuit
Did we screw up in not posting it?  Yes


[6/29/2020 4:36 PM] yashsedai
YOU HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION


[6/29/2020 4:36 PM] hardsuit
Dude


[6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai
Dude yourself


[6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai
You don't get to make up the rules as you go along


[6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai
Post it or don't


[6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai
but don't expect anyone to back your whining if you don't have a rule set


[6/29/2020 4:48 PM] hardsuit
This isn't making it up as I go along


[6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit
Yes, it's not documented


[6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit
But that doesn't mean it hasn't been in use for YEARS


[6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit
And now that we realize we fucked it up, we'll fix the documents


[6/29/2020 4:49 PM] yashsedai
So think about it logically. How do you expect anyone to adhere to a policy that isn't published


[6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit
But I'm not making shit up on the spur of the moment


[6/29/2020 4:50 PM] hardsuit
Did I ask for punishment?


[6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai
Does it matter?


[6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai
You make the claim someone is breaking the rules or policy


[6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai
said policy doesn't exist


[6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai
it's not as if you haven't been a member for years


[6/29/2020 4:51 PM] yashsedai
you know this group just as well as I


[6/29/2020 4:51 PM] yashsedai
As it's been said multiple times, if its not on the wiki, it doesn't exist


[6/29/2020 4:51 PM] yashsedai
This goes doubly for new members


[6/29/2020 4:51 PM] hon1nbo
I mean it's taught in the training; even I knew that just casually observing them. We also aren't expected to make rules for things that can't go down drains anyway


[6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai
There is nothing that says it can't go down the drain


[6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai
That is some made up crap


[6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai
Go talk to a print shop


[6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai
How do you think they wash the screens off?


[6/29/2020 4:52 PM] hardsuit
It says do on the goddamn ink bottle


[6/29/2020 4:52 PM] hardsuit
Is this your shit?


[6/29/2020 4:53 PM] yashsedai
Why would I bring ink to the space and leave it?


[6/29/2020 4:53 PM] yashsedai
I'm tired of seeing this behavior, I'm speaking against it


[6/29/2020 4:53 PM] yashsedai
Undocumented rules and made up assumptions because things are "scary" or "toxic"


[6/29/2020 4:53 PM] hardsuit
Same here, as far as your continued pedantry


[6/29/2020 4:54 PM] yashsedai
Least I'm not wrong though Paul


[6/29/2020 4:54 PM] yashsedai
I'm happy to show up and force your hand if you like


[6/29/2020 4:55 PM] ferricyanide7475
So if there isn't a global DMS rule to not pour toxic stuff down the drain, that means all the other committees that dont have a rule against can do so?


[6/29/2020 4:55 PM] yashsedai
@ferricyanide nice try, being a chemist you should know better than being disingenous


[6/29/2020 4:56 PM] yashsedai
Even a layperson can figure this out


[6/29/2020 4:56 PM] hardsuit
Done here, you do what you gotta do


[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] Deleted User
You know what else has that warning? Laundry detergent and dish soap.


[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] Deleted User
https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018/01/187753/household-products-harmful-aquatic-life

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[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] yashsedai
lol its true


[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] hardsuit
I will be in after work to post up the chemical policy

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[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] yashsedai
And it won't be valid until you have a committee meeting and vote on it


[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] hardsuit
And if you take it down I will file a formal complaint with the Board


[6/29/2020 4:57 PM] yashsedai
ooh scary man gonna threaten me


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] ferricyanide7475
Im being just as ridiculous as you


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai
sorry paul, you aren't gonna bully your way thru this one


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai
do it right


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai
or don't do it


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai
you know the damn rules


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai
You aren't even the damn committe chair


[6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai
which makes it more the laughable


[6/29/2020 5:00 PM] yashsedai
not that that would fix this, see Max and his rules


[6/29/2020 5:02 PM] hardsuit
Not arguing. You do you. I'll do me


[6/29/2020 5:03 PM] hardsuit
Dice shall fall as they may.


[6/30/2020 12:40 AM] michaelb5250
Man for someone who hates pedants you sure do a good impersonation of one Freddy.

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[6/30/2020 5:52 AM] yashsedai
@michaelb thanks for the compliment


[6/30/2020 8:59 AM] kenpurcell
I thought @yashsedai was channeling someone for awhile

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[6/30/2020 8:59 AM] yashsedai
lol


[6/30/2020 8:59 AM] yashsedai
only myself


[7/14/2020 2:37 PM] hon1nbo
@slinkygn (George) re: your question about what non-toxic inks are any good, @Hardsuit  may be able to answer here

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[7/14/2020 2:37 PM] hon1nbo
in a little more detail


[8/27/2020 12:12 AM] andrew5152
@Hardsuit  doubt you're interested, but...
https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/zip/d/anna-free-screen-printing-machine/7185044965.html

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[4/21/2021 1:33 PM] gtometich
Any recommendation on budget screen printing paper? I don’t want to go crazy on price, but I would like to get something that can handle some ink being laid down


[4/21/2021 1:33 PM] gtometich
https://www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-400-series-printmaking-paper/

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Strathmore 400 Series Printmaking Paper | BLICK Art Materials
Strathmore Printmaking Papers were born out of a unique collaboration between Strathmore Artist Papers and the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point. RiverPoint papers are ideal for a wide variety of techniques including relief, lithography, intaglio, screen print, and more.


[4/21/2021 1:33 PM] gtometich
Was leaning toward that


[4/21/2021 2:47 PM] hardsuit
Astrud gets packs of paper locally from Clampitt


[4/21/2021 2:48 PM] hardsuit
Forget exact type, will ask


[4/21/2021 6:43 PM] gtometich
I am going to try and be at the meeting tomorrow, I didn’t think to ask her. Thanks!


[4/21/2021 10:24 PM] hardsuit
There's a ream package of what Astrud buys in the red cabinet at the space, we can check tomorrow


[4/21/2021 10:25 PM] hardsuit
Accent Digital cover stock we think, under $20 for a 11*17 ream of 100 sheets


[4/21/2021 11:06 PM] gtometich
Thank you!


[4/22/2021 7:05 PM] hardsuit


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[6/30/2021 4:30 PM] denzuko
Any suggests for a quick profession printer for a large run of trading cards?


[6/30/2021 11:42 PM] hardsuit
Use Zazzle or similar for business card/post card sizes?


[6/30/2021 11:43 PM] hardsuit
Can get nice plussed designs for not too much extra using upgraded paper and spot gloss clear ink...


[6/30/2021 11:49 PM] hardsuit
Trading card size of 2.5"*3.5" matches a wedding invitation enclosure card.


[6/30/2021 11:49 PM] hardsuit
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Customizable Enclosure Card made by Zazzle Invitations. Personalize it with photos & text or shop existing designs!
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