============================================================== Guild: DallasMakerspace Channel: Committees / printmaking ============================================================== [5/5/2019 9:08 PM] anutterbutter Steam roll print moved to May 19, 2019. [6/2/2019 12:20 AM] ardamass Hi yall just to let you know we have our own discord sever of our own at https://discord.gg/YCkBmGj [6/2/2019 1:19 AM] aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/584627230529945652/giphy.gif?ex=67b96c89&is=67b81b09&hm=5cb3543486c31a368aee441388710c2d3ab1ccf9bc62677fc159b8eda8f072f3& [6/2/2019 1:51 AM] draco_the_drake @aceat64 ... I can't speak to the specific reason for this specific discord but I would imagine that some people don't like other people and want to be able to set the rules and tone and cannot do it on Talk or here. [6/2/2019 1:52 AM] aceat64 We can setup permissions for moderation on a per-channel basis though, I'm a big fan of simplification of communication channels [6/2/2019 1:53 AM] aceat64 Fragmentation decreases the ability to communicate effectively {Reactions} πŸ’― (2) πŸ‘ (2) [6/2/2019 1:56 AM] draco_the_drake What I suggest then is to make that information avaliable to people. One reason that I think people go with something outside is for its equality in ownership. What I mean is that Discord doesn't have a dog in the hunt when it comes to DMS. Facebook groups do not either. But the admins of this server and Talk do. [6/2/2019 1:58 AM] draco_the_drake I think people feel that there is a fairness that they can get from having their own server or group outside of DMS, that they couldn't get inside [6/2/2019 2:04 AM] draco_the_drake But I am with you on the fragmentation... I wish there was a good solution to having independent areas that are on;y moderated and managed by those that create it. [6/2/2019 2:04 AM] draco_the_drake but under the same thing [6/2/2019 2:04 AM] draco_the_drake People could easily find and subscribe to the groups they want or create new ones for projects [6/2/2019 2:05 AM] draco_the_drake The easiest for most people is create a facebook group or discord server ... they make it simple to do rather than asking permission [6/2/2019 3:05 AM] canibalcrab Let's take it to #general_chatter [6/5/2019 3:36 PM] lavarocks. Why have one method of communication when we can fragment into a thousand so no new members know which end is up. πŸ‘‡ [6/5/2019 3:39 PM] nullinterface because #DMSTalkIsBad [6/5/2019 3:49 PM] canibalcrab Shoo! Back to general! This is printmaking. Shoo! [6/5/2019 3:54 PM] lavarocks. Lol [6/5/2019 3:59 PM] stephenie. squatters rights {Reactions} 🀣 πŸ€™ [6/9/2019 3:00 PM] hardsuit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/587370532908040222/9934cea9a3923b245ecec5592006868cf15dd7d7_2_1000x1000.jpeg?ex=67b8db6f&is=67b789ef&hm=901db0c178f3af6a47e1da7fa0bce07815ac111ccdb204290b76717b251cf67d& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/587370533444780042/ae55f62eace8d0bbaef9f583bf5a87a74dda623f_2_1000x1000.jpeg?ex=67b8db6f&is=67b789ef&hm=64ae056372005be2b4207104f9fba97593f6ebe0f497a7bb3453bb521712702f& {Reactions} πŸ‘ (2) [6/9/2019 3:01 PM] hardsuit Kermit is up and running! [6/9/2019 3:02 PM] canibalcrab Nice! [6/9/2019 4:43 PM] kenpurcell Seriously nice! [6/10/2019 8:32 AM] nullinterface 6-station press? [6/10/2019 4:14 PM] kenpurcell Reminds of the days working in a t-shirt shop making concert tees. The promoters used to go in advance a couple of weeks and had most shirts made locally. I often got to wear one on the morning of the concert and everyone asked how the hell I did that. Also used to make the shirts for Fletcher's Corny Dogs. Skip Fletcher was too cheap for an extra screen so we have to hand paint in the tongue. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/587751554845638658/54f23b65f12cffd9c315407bc8a3bd5c-personal-history-texas-travel.jpg?ex=67b8ecca&is=67b79b4a&hm=79c47b7ce6f1a8f0197a48d49c8703855a3bb3d9ed2a5b87442bea2a16f2a60b& [6/13/2019 1:28 PM] lavarocks. Hey all, I want to participate in the t shirt committee class but we want yo have a contest for best logo. [7/18/2019 10:37 AM] adam1334 With the effective exit of the two main teachers in Printmaking - Who else around the space can teach some of these classes? Just looking for brainstorming ideas. It's my understanding that the supplies are fairly well stocked there. [7/18/2019 1:33 PM] lavarocks. @judy Kriehn [7/18/2019 2:39 PM] judykriehn3727 Astrud and Paul havent β€œexited” to my knowledge, but are taking the rest of the summer off. I think the long term plan is to do one month on, one month off. I dunno if any of the serger fiends she has created will pick up that torch for Sewing, but When I talked to Astrud last week, she said that Mushashi is gearing up to take over teaching the silk screen classes. Rose is qualified to teach a few things, but hasn’t worked up the courage to leave the nest just yet. Stephenie will probably take on some of the laser/woodblock classes at some point, but her attention is focused on the finance committee and Nicks senior year of high school at the moment. {Reactions} dms [7/18/2019 2:59 PM] canibalcrab Gorman used to teach the screen printing classes after I stopped [7/18/2019 5:17 PM] hardsuit Two months on, one month off {Reactions} πŸ‘ [7/18/2019 5:19 PM] canibalcrab Thats not bad [7/18/2019 5:19 PM] hardsuit Considering Astrud has been teaching an average of 2+ classes a week for most of a year, I don't think it's unreasonable to take a month or two off as a mental break [7/18/2019 5:20 PM] hardsuit Especially since she's ramping up into a new job that started three weeks ago. {Reactions} dms [7/18/2019 5:20 PM] hardsuit We'll be back, don't worry. {Reactions} πŸ‘ (2) dms [7/18/2019 5:21 PM] canibalcrab It's a much better class than I ever expected to teach when I was doing it [7/18/2019 5:23 PM] hardsuit Which one? She has over a dozen different classes... [7/18/2019 5:23 PM] hardsuit T-shirts and totes? [7/18/2019 5:26 PM] canibalcrab Shit [7/18/2019 5:26 PM] canibalcrab I was only teaching how the screen printing press worked and getting some free labor out of it making DMS shirts [7/18/2019 5:28 PM] hardsuit Yeah, we have regiggered the T-shirt and totes class to generate a dozen(ish) batch of shirts & totes for PR each time we do it, and will be doing the same for the micro registration multicolor screen printing class {Reactions} πŸ‘ (2) [7/18/2019 5:29 PM] hardsuit Need to come up with a few more multicolor DMS designs [7/18/2019 6:22 PM] talkers Screen printing is a lot of fun. [7/24/2019 7:20 PM] denzuko anyone up for a dms zine? Would be based around making, indie music, and hacking [7/25/2019 12:28 AM] mizgeek Paper or digital? [7/25/2019 8:19 AM] denzukoatwork2317 no reason why we couldn't do both but paper prefered [7/25/2019 12:55 PM] mizgeek My inner ecologist hates to kill trees for ephemeral knowledge. Art is different. 😁 [7/25/2019 12:56 PM] mizgeek Don’t even speculate how much cotton I have killed. 😝 [7/26/2019 9:50 AM] denzukoatwork2317 lol [7/26/2019 9:53 AM] denzukoatwork2317 the archlogist in me is pondering if they always have lived on deciduous trees or was that an adaptation? Maybe they started to do the longer periods to survive doing ice ages that only lasted 13-16 years which would hint at there being a flora compointent to match [7/26/2019 9:54 AM] denzukoatwork2317 there's even wasps and fungi that have adapted to be natural predators to them so.. something is there [7/26/2019 9:55 AM] denzukoatwork2317 sorry, I know.. the weird things my mind ponders about [7/29/2019 7:42 AM] judykriehn3727 Reminder: Printmaking Committee election tonight. 7 pm in printmaking committee area. {Reactions} ❀ [7/29/2019 1:40 PM] mizgeek I have to help Wayne with a music video shoot. I’m sorry. [7/29/2019 1:41 PM] mizgeek And I like how your mind ponders, @denzuko-at-work [8/16/2019 6:06 PM] judykriehn3727 Printmaking Committee meeting on Monday night @ 7 pm (Aug 19) in Printmaking committee area. Be there or be square. [8/22/2019 11:45 AM] denzukoatwork2317 On siting a lot of items from the studio this Saturday afternoon. So be sure to look out for the donations to Printmaking [9/1/2019 10:59 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/617931612121726976/IMG_20190901_214613_844.jpg?ex=67b94ba8&is=67b7fa28&hm=89a6b8d86c43c2a8b69233ad6df40eb1a0ea57629e2ae3db3383eaaf74a30ed0& {Reactions} πŸ‘ πŸ’— [9/1/2019 11:00 PM] stephenie. Steamroller print. Framed at Tom and Lisa's shop, Premier Gallery. {Reactions} πŸ‘ (5) β™₯ (2) πŸ’° [9/2/2019 6:56 PM] hardsuit Beautiful! [9/11/2019 6:19 PM] judykriehn3727 Next committee meeting is on Monday, sept 16 at 7 pm [10/1/2019 12:09 PM] judykriehn3727 FYI- the electrical work is scheduled to start on or about Thursday n the Flex area, and take 2-3 weeks to complete. The Expansion team has requested that all of the worktables in the middle of the space be vacated and kept that way until the work is complete. With workers up and down ladders above the dropped ceiling, they don’t want to risk having projects or personal property damaged in the process. I would also suggest making sure that printmaking projects are not left out in the committee area anywhere near the south warehouse wall, since the committee is getting several outlets installed there. [10/11/2019 11:36 PM] judykriehn3727 The Printmaking chairman election and October committee meeting will be held at 7 pm on Monday, Oct. 21, gathered around the tall table in the Printmaking area. [10/11/2019 11:37 PM] judykriehn3727 FYI, I will not be seeking re-election as chair. I'm passing the virtual brayer to somebody else... [10/25/2019 9:45 PM] Deleted User Hey guys is there anyone that may be able to cert me on 3d printing? [10/25/2019 10:17 PM] michaelb5250 Try #3d_fab, printmaking does things like letter press and silk-screening [10/25/2019 10:27 PM] Deleted User Oh I see. I may need to utilize the screen printing at some point too though. I've screen printed before but can't remember how to make the negatives for it. [11/24/2019 9:23 PM] judykriehn3727 The co-chairs of Printmaking have scheduled a committee meeting for 7 pm on Monday December 2 in the Printmaking area. [6/29/2020 3:29 PM] hon1nbo @judy Kriehn @Hardsuit where are the rules posted regarding ink and dye that aren't allowed? [6/29/2020 3:57 PM] hardsuit That's probably the issue, it's a "known" thing by regulars, and is taught in classes to access equipment, but not posted [6/29/2020 3:58 PM] hardsuit If they bring in everything including their own press, then they won't be aware [6/29/2020 3:58 PM] hon1nbo well they're using the sink, and it is labelled on the bottle with the aquatic notice. [6/29/2020 3:59 PM] hon1nbo having it posted though is going to be important [6/29/2020 4:10 PM] yashsedai So I'm still not following why it's prohibited [6/29/2020 4:10 PM] yashsedai Can someone help me understand? [6/29/2020 4:14 PM] yashsedai The stuff cleans up with mineral spirits [6/29/2020 4:23 PM] hardsuit It's ***on the label*** of the ink that it's hazardous to aquatic life [6/29/2020 4:23 PM] hardsuit You DO NOT flush that stuff down any sink, drain, etc [6/29/2020 4:23 PM] yashsedai eh [6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai thats not how sewers work man [6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai and you wouldn't be dumping it down the drain [6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai you'd be adding soap first.... [6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai this is industry standard stuff [6/29/2020 4:24 PM] yashsedai why the fuss [6/29/2020 4:25 PM] yashsedai everything oil based is "harmful to aquatic life".... [6/29/2020 4:25 PM] hardsuit We stopped using mineral spirits at least two years ago [6/29/2020 4:26 PM] hardsuit It's on the label!!! [6/29/2020 4:26 PM] yashsedai i'm not hearing a why, i'm hearing "its scary" and "its bad" [6/29/2020 4:26 PM] hardsuit You don't put it down the drain, period! [6/29/2020 4:26 PM] yashsedai ok, so how do you dispose of it then? [6/29/2020 4:26 PM] yashsedai after usage [6/29/2020 4:27 PM] hardsuit Wipe it off with paper towels and put in fireproof trash can It's also highly flammable. Which is ALSO on the label [6/29/2020 4:28 PM] yashsedai so is tons of shit at dms [6/29/2020 4:29 PM] hardsuit I'll admit we don't have it visibly posted, which we will fix ASAP. [6/29/2020 4:29 PM] yashsedai So here's where i sit, you need to put on the wiki a set of rules voted by the committee [6/29/2020 4:29 PM] yashsedai not what used to be [6/29/2020 4:29 PM] hardsuit But it's been committee policy and actively taught in classes for years that we don't do non water based inks [6/29/2020 4:29 PM] yashsedai There is no committee policy [6/29/2020 4:30 PM] yashsedai tribal knowledge isn't policy [6/29/2020 4:31 PM] hardsuit Dude, not your committee [6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai dude [6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai your not either [6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai you don't get to say yea verily that something is or isn't [6/29/2020 4:32 PM] yashsedai i'm over people acting as if they get the say when its committee based [6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai put a set of rules together and vote on them [6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai then you can tout that its the will of the committee [6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai until then [6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai you have no standing for banning anyone or regulating it [6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai "because its committee policy" [6/29/2020 4:33 PM] yashsedai oh and by the way [6/29/2020 4:34 PM] yashsedai dms members = committee [6/29/2020 4:36 PM] hardsuit It's been committee policy AND taught in classes for over two years [6/29/2020 4:36 PM] yashsedai THERE IS NO COMMITTEE POLICY [6/29/2020 4:36 PM] ferricyanide7475 So is the city not monitoring DMS's output? I thought that was what was told to science and that nothing the city would dislike is to go down the drain. [6/29/2020 4:36 PM] hardsuit Did we screw up in not posting it? Yes [6/29/2020 4:36 PM] yashsedai YOU HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION [6/29/2020 4:36 PM] hardsuit Dude [6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai Dude yourself [6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai You don't get to make up the rules as you go along [6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai Post it or don't [6/29/2020 4:37 PM] yashsedai but don't expect anyone to back your whining if you don't have a rule set [6/29/2020 4:48 PM] hardsuit This isn't making it up as I go along [6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit Yes, it's not documented [6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit But that doesn't mean it hasn't been in use for YEARS [6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit And now that we realize we fucked it up, we'll fix the documents [6/29/2020 4:49 PM] yashsedai So think about it logically. How do you expect anyone to adhere to a policy that isn't published [6/29/2020 4:49 PM] hardsuit But I'm not making shit up on the spur of the moment [6/29/2020 4:50 PM] hardsuit Did I ask for punishment? [6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai Does it matter? [6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai You make the claim someone is breaking the rules or policy [6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai said policy doesn't exist [6/29/2020 4:50 PM] yashsedai it's not as if you haven't been a member for years [6/29/2020 4:51 PM] yashsedai you know this group just as well as I [6/29/2020 4:51 PM] yashsedai As it's been said multiple times, if its not on the wiki, it doesn't exist [6/29/2020 4:51 PM] yashsedai This goes doubly for new members [6/29/2020 4:51 PM] hon1nbo I mean it's taught in the training; even I knew that just casually observing them. We also aren't expected to make rules for things that can't go down drains anyway [6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai There is nothing that says it can't go down the drain [6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai That is some made up crap [6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai Go talk to a print shop [6/29/2020 4:52 PM] yashsedai How do you think they wash the screens off? [6/29/2020 4:52 PM] hardsuit It says do on the goddamn ink bottle [6/29/2020 4:52 PM] hardsuit Is this your shit? [6/29/2020 4:53 PM] yashsedai Why would I bring ink to the space and leave it? [6/29/2020 4:53 PM] yashsedai I'm tired of seeing this behavior, I'm speaking against it [6/29/2020 4:53 PM] yashsedai Undocumented rules and made up assumptions because things are "scary" or "toxic" [6/29/2020 4:53 PM] hardsuit Same here, as far as your continued pedantry [6/29/2020 4:54 PM] yashsedai Least I'm not wrong though Paul [6/29/2020 4:54 PM] yashsedai I'm happy to show up and force your hand if you like [6/29/2020 4:55 PM] ferricyanide7475 So if there isn't a global DMS rule to not pour toxic stuff down the drain, that means all the other committees that dont have a rule against can do so? [6/29/2020 4:55 PM] yashsedai @ferricyanide nice try, being a chemist you should know better than being disingenous [6/29/2020 4:56 PM] yashsedai Even a layperson can figure this out [6/29/2020 4:56 PM] hardsuit Done here, you do what you gotta do [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] Deleted User You know what else has that warning? Laundry detergent and dish soap. [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] Deleted User https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018/01/187753/household-products-harmful-aquatic-life {Embed} https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018/01/187753/household-products-harmful-aquatic-life Have You Ever Read The Small Print On The Back Of These Common Hous... You've probably never noticed this warning on the back of your household cleaning products. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/52UBzh1X-L5G3JHNbcceieo7r9KidollhnvwBZAG-Fw/https/s1.r29static.com/bin/entry/bee/0%2C675%2C2000%2C1050/x%2C80/1919861/image.jpg [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] yashsedai lol its true [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] hardsuit I will be in after work to post up the chemical policy {Reactions} πŸ‘ [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] yashsedai And it won't be valid until you have a committee meeting and vote on it [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] hardsuit And if you take it down I will file a formal complaint with the Board [6/29/2020 4:57 PM] yashsedai ooh scary man gonna threaten me [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] ferricyanide7475 Im being just as ridiculous as you [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai sorry paul, you aren't gonna bully your way thru this one [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai do it right [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai or don't do it [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai you know the damn rules [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai You aren't even the damn committe chair [6/29/2020 4:58 PM] yashsedai which makes it more the laughable [6/29/2020 5:00 PM] yashsedai not that that would fix this, see Max and his rules [6/29/2020 5:02 PM] hardsuit Not arguing. You do you. I'll do me [6/29/2020 5:03 PM] hardsuit Dice shall fall as they may. [6/30/2020 12:40 AM] michaelb5250 Man for someone who hates pedants you sure do a good impersonation of one Freddy. {Reactions} πŸ‘† [6/30/2020 5:52 AM] yashsedai @michaelb thanks for the compliment [6/30/2020 8:59 AM] kenpurcell I thought @yashsedai was channeling someone for awhile {Reactions} πŸ€” [6/30/2020 8:59 AM] yashsedai lol [6/30/2020 8:59 AM] yashsedai only myself [7/14/2020 2:37 PM] hon1nbo @slinkygn (George) re: your question about what non-toxic inks are any good, @Hardsuit may be able to answer here {Reactions} πŸ‘ [7/14/2020 2:37 PM] hon1nbo in a little more detail [8/27/2020 12:12 AM] andrew5152 @Hardsuit doubt you're interested, but... https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/zip/d/anna-free-screen-printing-machine/7185044965.html {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/748409520031662121/screenprinter.pdf?ex=67b95cae&is=67b80b2e&hm=8b8d5daf390f3cb32a621f93be261432054ec7dad998e208f0570cac2e405aa0& {Embed} https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/zip/d/anna-free-screen-printing-machine/7185044965.html Free Screen printing machine - free stuff FREE HIX Manual Screen Press (4 stations/6 color) Has to moved by Sunday 8/30/2020 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/QYXeto7R44g-khGNhcFSV2v00u_8lqvq9vhCSXyH-lE/https/images.craigslist.org/00i0i_kFM64aXP7Wh_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg [4/21/2021 1:33 PM] gtometich Any recommendation on budget screen printing paper? I don’t want to go crazy on price, but I would like to get something that can handle some ink being laid down [4/21/2021 1:33 PM] gtometich https://www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-400-series-printmaking-paper/ {Embed} https://www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-400-series-printmaking-paper/ Strathmore 400 Series Printmaking Paper | BLICK Art Materials Strathmore Printmaking Papers were born out of a unique collaboration between Strathmore Artist Papers and the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point. RiverPoint papers are ideal for a wide variety of techniques including relief, lithography, intaglio, screen print, and more. [4/21/2021 1:33 PM] gtometich Was leaning toward that [4/21/2021 2:47 PM] hardsuit Astrud gets packs of paper locally from Clampitt [4/21/2021 2:48 PM] hardsuit Forget exact type, will ask [4/21/2021 6:43 PM] gtometich I am going to try and be at the meeting tomorrow, I didn’t think to ask her. Thanks! [4/21/2021 10:24 PM] hardsuit There's a ream package of what Astrud buys in the red cabinet at the space, we can check tomorrow [4/21/2021 10:25 PM] hardsuit Accent Digital cover stock we think, under $20 for a 11*17 ream of 100 sheets [4/21/2021 11:06 PM] gtometich Thank you! [4/22/2021 7:05 PM] hardsuit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570474333726703627/834943132939976714/20210422_190542.jpg?ex=67b914e3&is=67b7c363&hm=a76849b938dfbeeb26b99ea67cd1bec0714e44e11a8aa5ce2056bbbd2c0e8f06& {Reactions} πŸ‘ (3) [6/30/2021 4:30 PM] denzuko Any suggests for a quick profession printer for a large run of trading cards? [6/30/2021 11:42 PM] hardsuit Use Zazzle or similar for business card/post card sizes? [6/30/2021 11:43 PM] hardsuit Can get nice plussed designs for not too much extra using upgraded paper and spot gloss clear ink... [6/30/2021 11:49 PM] hardsuit Trading card size of 2.5"*3.5" matches a wedding invitation enclosure card. 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