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2227585388544393219axeonos2017-04-08T10:15:56.0740000-05:00Dont get the cheap toilet paper. My 50. A month should get 2 ply. Not asking for 3 ply but my butt deserves 2ply.
3115183069555589125aceat642017-04-08T12:50:00.8120000-05:00we actually invested in one of these: http://s3cf.recapguide.com/img/tv/49/7x10/The-Office-US-Season-7-Episode-10-49-876e.jpg
4115183069555589125aceat642017-04-08T12:50:06.1660000-05:00so we can turn 2 ply into 1 ply
5115183069555589125aceat642017-04-08T12:50:17.9900000-05:0050% cost savings
6227585388544393219axeonos2017-04-08T17:52:29.4880000-05:00Dont give any ideas....
7189645236908064768themitch222017-04-09T05:52:39.7770000-05:00or the 3" wide football stadium bathroom tp that just turns into rope when you pull it out
8300320547588276225clk94312017-04-09T07:56:40.0980000-05:00Do not despair. This is what Merissa posted as the new brand. https://m.uline.com/h5/r/www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-11666/Toilet-Paper-and-Dispensers/Charmin-Bath-Tissue No doubt you share my sense of *relief*.
9300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-17T13:13:02.0730000-05:00Does Logistics still use the idea of way points? I believe set up back when Allen was chair. for example he stocked pencils but they lived in Woodshop? And at one point he bought calipers that lived in 3d Fab? But all of these things were for all members to use in any committee. they just needed to be brought back to their home at the end of the day. Just curious if that was still the case.
10300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-17T13:16:23.1610000-05:00If so I'd like to get a list so I can put it in the member handbook and possibly get a map for the space.
11300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-17T17:21:11.0080000-05:00From Brandon - The idea behind the logistics shelf is to have a single stocking point for logistics items. Some stuff will go directly to the tool wall/tool cabinets in workshop, but he hasnt been stocking things in other committee areas
12300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-17T17:22:35.4630000-05:00Still figuring things out, can re-evaluate if needed for certain things
13300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-17T17:23:00.1410000-05:00Got it. Thanks.
14194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T17:36:09.9890000-05:00You should tell Brandon that discord is awesome and he should join
15194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T17:37:17.9980000-05:00Mell I think the key part of Allan's plan was "overstocking so the people who were taking supplies home wouldn't need to steal them after a while"
16302089838222376960alerho2017-04-17T17:40:30.8590000-05:00I think there are items that are used across all Committees (general tools) and those should be purchased by logistics but that's just me. calipers, blue tape, screw drivers, Allen wrenches, exactly knives, box cutters, etc...
17302089838222376960alerho2017-04-17T17:41:02.2110000-05:00*Exacto knives
18302089838222376960alerho2017-04-17T17:41:51.1530000-05:00I know Brandon has a thread with suggestions but it was only for Uline items. Uline doesn't carry pencils.
19194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T17:43:22.3330000-05:00Lets make a list and post it on the talk thread
20194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T17:43:48.8060000-05:00We could make one that's just from the Amazon basics selection
21300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-17T17:46:41.7650000-05:00Ya, I trust Brandon. I'm good with whatever. I just really hate seeing all the "shame members for this and that" when our policies are always changing. had to talk someone down the other day when someone took the 3d Fab Calipers and brought them back even. He thought it was horrible for people to take them out of the room. If that's the case that's fine but I still thought it was fine. (I know we always want them to end up back in 3d Fab.)👏 (1)
22194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T17:48:30.7430000-05:00The issue with that is it used to be ok to borrow tools but if the chance is 50/50 the tool isn't going to return to the room due to forgetfulness, we run out of the tool pretty quick
23300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-17T17:49:27.3250000-05:00Yeah that's really tough. I get it.
24189645236908064768themitch222017-04-17T18:08:43.0890000-05:00the $15 calipers Alex bought we locked half of them up so they only trickle away so fast
25189645236908064768themitch222017-04-17T18:08:58.0840000-05:00release a few in the wild not the whole herd
26194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T18:11:44.7510000-05:00Do they have to go through a lottery system to see which ones get sacrificed?
27189645236908064768themitch222017-04-17T18:14:32.4380000-05:00the calipers with missing batteries and battery covers are going in the tar pit
28302089838222376960alerho2017-04-17T18:32:09.6500000-05:00Is there another design by chance? One that doesn't have a shitty battery cover?
29194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T18:33:44.2760000-05:00I think that's what the new ones were
30300320547588276225clk94312017-04-17T19:31:24.2690000-05:00I *think* there's a digital set in CA. I know there are calipers, but I kind of remember the digital part.
31294269552705929216limeytx2017-04-17T20:20:59.9140000-05:00Yeah i believe David returned CA's missing calipers this morning. It was so new that it had a spare battery in the case 😄 I'd like to switch it out for a manual dial type though
32194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T20:21:34.5120000-05:00you guys and your manual dials
33194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-17T20:22:38.0370000-05:00its like saying digital watches are off by .2 seconds and they ruin your day
34300320547588276225clk94312017-04-20T10:32:49.3500000-05:00Time for a bigger dumpster or more pick up days? Trash seems to be a problem. Growing pains, I suppose.
35300320547588276225clk94312017-04-20T10:33:00.6150000-05:00Also, anyone know if sawdust can be reused or recycled?
36302089838222376960alerho2017-04-20T10:36:48.8900000-05:00It's the biggest dumpster available with out going to the long ones. Those are more expensive because they can't be picked up by a truck.
37300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T10:41:47.2260000-05:00Re reusing sawdust... Here's a post to remind about considerations... https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/cnc-users-lets-not-get-lazy/6672/42?u=lisaselk
38115183069555589125aceat642017-04-20T11:17:41.3720000-05:00@Alex Rhodes what about two dumpsters?
39302089838222376960alerho2017-04-20T11:18:19.2110000-05:00Personally, I'd rather us get recycling added.
40302089838222376960alerho2017-04-20T11:18:32.8450000-05:00That should help off load some from the dumpster.
41300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:20:06.3320000-05:00What about penalties if restricted items end up in the recycle container?
42300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:20:21.0210000-05:00*when
43300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-20T11:21:28.6740000-05:00Beth takes care of the recycling so that's not taking up space in the dumpster.
44300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:21:29.9130000-05:00It'd be great if we could pull it off without penalties...
45300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-20T11:22:01.2310000-05:00Not sure if you're saying she needs to do it more often.
46300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:22:22.2540000-05:00No... that's not what I was talking about at all...
47300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-20T11:22:35.4810000-05:00No that was meant for Alex.
48300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-20T11:22:42.1550000-05:00Sorry.
49300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:22:43.7740000-05:00Oh lol
50300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:22:47.7690000-05:00Sorry
51300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-20T11:24:26.3000000-05:00How many dumpster pick ups a week are we getting? Time to go up like @clk said?
52302089838222376960alerho2017-04-20T11:25:15.3500000-05:00We get there a week. Issue is when we miss one.
53300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:25:38.3410000-05:00I know we've had discussions about a large recycle container out back to supplement our waste disposal options ~ especially since so much cardboard and wood gets dumped (many boxes don't get broke down, so that kind of stuff fills the dumpster up really quick!)👍 (1)
54300320547588276225clk94312017-04-20T11:26:12.3440000-05:00Monday after a busy weekend seems to be a thing. Maybe a policy of holding sawdust until Wednesday?
55300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-20T11:29:10.0080000-05:00It would be helpful if Logistics would document what to do in cases when the dumpster gets full... Holding off waste until Wednesday could be a good idea most of the time, but there will always be exceptions and we need rules on where to hold stuff until the dumpster is available again
56300083517877125121andrew51522017-04-20T11:39:05.9480000-05:00http://www.wastecare.com/Products-Services/Compactors/Trash_Compactors/Compactors_Commercial_Mobile/Compactors_Commercial_Main.htm
57109359055532732416clone10182017-04-20T12:09:00.7900000-05:00> Be prepared for surprise Inspections by the Health Department or other Regulatory Departments
58109359055532732416clone10182017-04-20T12:09:10.7870000-05:00Haha
59300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T00:11:01.5450000-05:00So is the new logistics chair on discord?
60194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T00:11:29.4900000-05:00Dunno
61194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T00:12:57.1980000-05:00Dan Gallagher
62306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-04-25T06:46:05.0890000-05:00I am now... 😃
63300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T06:47:07.1280000-05:00Wait. There's a new logistics chair?
64300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T08:15:02.4040000-05:00Apparently so, although the board has failed to notify the acting chair. Funny how these complaints stemming from communication failures have turned out.
65300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-04-25T09:07:31.5700000-05:00^ exactly. We did the hand off and then went to celebrate the completion of our terms by going out to eat. Returned at 10pm and there were many surprises. Personally I was stunned.
66302089838222376960alerho2017-04-25T09:08:19.3050000-05:00Hopefully the minutes get posted soon.
67300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T09:09:52.9970000-05:00@missydee1206 Said not to hold your breath. She's in the middle of a move. Someone want to post a synopsis?
68300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T09:12:10.1310000-05:00So the minutes is where someone is supposed to learn they're no longer a chair or procurement officer? Really?
69303701263860760579missydee120649742017-04-25T09:13:37.0690000-05:00@@clk I also said I would be happy to answer immediate questions in the meantime.
70300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T09:13:52.6610000-05:00Cool! So what happened last night?
71300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T09:15:23.1970000-05:00Who is President and Sec'y. What happened re: Walter. Did they get to Havens complaint.
72300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T09:17:05.6020000-05:00@Alex Rhodes you know Logistics is a constant task and reading the meeting minutes when they become available is not adequate notification. I advised Brandon not to make any further purchases myself after another member facebook messaged me the news. 1000 pencils will be Brandon's last purchase for the space.
73303701263860760579missydee120649742017-04-25T09:18:32.8920000-05:00President is kris Secretary is robert, but someone else will be taking minutes. Probably me if I'm available. Whatever the complaint regardig mark havens was was withdrawn. The board did not confirm Brandon as logistics chair or procurement officer.
74300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-04-25T09:19:15.6070000-05:00Thank you Missy!
75300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T09:19:18.2660000-05:00Thanks Devin.
76300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-04-25T09:19:32.3450000-05:00Errrr, ah Devin 😉
77194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T09:25:34.0040000-05:00@dpgalla added you to the @logistics chair role. You can now post in the committee chair chat as well
78306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-04-25T09:26:40.7910000-05:00Thank you
79300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T09:28:28.3620000-05:00Thanks for the summary @missydee1206
80300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T09:29:02.3460000-05:00Ok, that funky all the numbers thing that happens when you tag someone is confusing me a bit, but I'm getting the hang of it. Just press enter and it all goes away.
81194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T09:30:04.2260000-05:00That's like a user id. If you @me you will see my actual servername pop up with my user ID # as well as my nickname and #
82300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T09:30:33.2310000-05:00Yes. That's what I finally figured out.
83109359055532732416clone10182017-04-25T10:08:49.4990000-05:00@dpgalla I'm interested to hear your plans for logistics. Will you be using TALK for communication or just the spacE?
84300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-25T10:45:23.9060000-05:00@merissa i asked if someone had talked to Brandon last night. @Robert said he called him.
85194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-25T10:46:50.2640000-05:00I'm interested as well @dpgalla I wasn't at the meeting so I didn't get to hear anything about your nomination
86300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T10:48:38.6390000-05:00I'm also interested since Dan had the opportunity to step up as chair for the committee to consider at the last special meeting that was called and he failed to do it then.
87300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T10:49:31.7900000-05:00Thanks @mell I don't think Brandon got the call. He found out when I told him.
88300300278903734282mell.jpg2017-04-25T10:50:17.9370000-05:00100% an email should have been sent anyway. Not sure what happened. Sorry Brandon had to find out that way.
89300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T10:51:27.7710000-05:00Yeah no matter the terms, it's pretty awful that the board would treat a member with that little regard when it was known Brandon could not be at the meeting
90306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-04-25T11:16:38.7820000-05:00I am working on putting together an assessment. I would appreciate as much help as possible in identifying and prioritizing immediate and future needs. I would like to have a meeting with Brandon to share his ideas and reasoning for some of tasks he was implementing. I do intend making logistics a community centric committee where ideas are welcome and increase volunteerism. I know there are many upset members about this change. I hope we can ultimately work together and make this an awesome place for all to enjoy and participate.
91300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T11:23:31.2000000-05:00Good luck to you Dan. Brandon posted lots of ideas on Talk. I suggest you start there since he put considerable thought and effort into everything he's done for logistics over the years. And getting people to volunteer their time is going to be a big job, but it sounds like you have your own ideas about how to solicit help so I hope that works out.
92306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-04-25T11:30:33.1220000-05:00Thank you...
93304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-04-25T16:14:48.4320000-05:00I just received the portion of the minutes about Brandon and will be contacting him. You are correct that the board should have let him know right away. I will take ownership of that mistake and apologize to him for not being timely in notifying him.
94300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T16:25:46.3450000-05:00Will the minutes from the meetings that are rumored to have occurred prior to official meeting also be posted?
95304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-04-25T16:37:47.4330000-05:00In less than 24 hours three new members and were added to the board of directors. The door was wide open as it always will be unless there are issues about litigation or business transactions such as The lease. This was not a board meeting this was a question and answer session to help the transition.
96300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T17:20:59.3060000-05:00Where how to handle items on the board meeting agenda was decided upon?
97300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T17:21:45.7910000-05:00Will time of these sessions be published in the future?
98300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T17:24:53.0940000-05:00And again, official board meeting have minutes available for those that couldn't attend. If decisions are going to be made outside those times minutes should be kept with a list of who was in attendance to aid in transparancy
99300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-04-25T17:31:43.0010000-05:00You expect members, who are not yet installed as BoD members, to keep notes on their casual chats? Seems a little extreme. I walked in and out of the room they were in several times, sat down for a bit and congratulated them, others were doing much the same. They were feeling out the other new BoD members for attitudes and directions... and often not agreeing with each other. It was fascinating to watch, but a conspiracy it wasn't.
100300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T17:34:21.5430000-05:00I'm asking Kris if how to handle items on the board meeting agenda were decided upon outside the official board meeting, but thanks for your insight Stan
101304719950189297674cat_skat.2017-04-25T17:42:50.1830000-05:00Asked and answered. For my part, I'm sorry it happened, but did what I saw as my duty, and have no apology to offer. But I hated having to do it, wished we hadn't been forced to deal with it. It's done, and won't be revisited this year. I do respect your instinct to defend your partner. Brandon is hardly the only person at the Space that suffers from project blindness. It doesn't make him a bad person.
102304719950189297674cat_skat.2017-04-25T17:43:13.4470000-05:00Its also time to stop beating on him and rehashing things.
103300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T17:43:35.0910000-05:00Was my question answered?
104300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T17:45:28.6390000-05:00@Cat_Skat @kriskat30
105304719950189297674cat_skat.2017-04-25T17:45:56.6490000-05:00Yes maam, it was. Stan is correct in all details.
106300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T18:06:52.2530000-05:00Thanks, in the future I'd appreciate an answer from a board member when I'm asking a question of the board
107302089838222376960alerho2017-04-25T18:07:20.8520000-05:00The meeting Stan described is what I thought I was showing up for but only accounted for about 15% of that actual conversation. When I got there I found out the new board members had a meeting the night before and essentially told me, this is the way it is. We were voted in for this.
108302089838222376960alerho2017-04-25T18:08:14.9240000-05:00I'm sure once the meeting minutes come out you can see how people voted and judge for yourself.
109302089838222376960alerho2017-04-25T18:09:23.6750000-05:00Casual chats are one thing but what happened yesterday was unlike any of the other boards.
110300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T18:11:38.6130000-05:00Please be careful everyone. Let it rest for a few days before hashing it out if you need to hash it out.
111300311540211515392robert222017-04-25T18:12:48.8160000-05:00I would agree with that never in my 5 years have I ever seen a board plan and execute without doing research and ultimately pre decide the outcome of a board meeting. What I saw was an effort to railroad without even so much as a plan to deal with the fall out. I would have expected before you kill a committee elect position you at a minimum attend a logistics meeting.
112300078993577607170merissa43082017-04-25T18:21:19.8510000-05:00Thanks for the input Alex and Robert. Since you were the only board members who attended the recent logistics meeting, I would have hoped your input would have been considered.
113302089838222376960alerho2017-04-25T18:32:18.7970000-05:00Just to clarify Brandon wasn't the main focal point of the pre meeting but he was brought up.
114306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T18:37:35.6950000-05:00Two things-I believe it was Allen who went ballistic about transparency in dealings last year regarding unofficial board meetings on hangouts and Walter has also expressed concerns in the past. I don't believe it's realistic to expect Board members not to discuss things amongst themselves to some degree, but if it was truly presented as three members had already decided for the whole Board and this is how it's going, that's not really starting a great working relationship with the two left out. Moving forward, I hope all five Board members will be included in all illicit discussions.
115306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T18:41:54.4740000-05:00Regardless of what you seem to think now, you're all going to need one another.
116300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-04-25T19:32:20.1300000-05:00Of the casual chat of the three people that were NOT YET BOARD MEMBERS, that I witnessed perhaps 30-45 minutes of, I doubt Brandon was talked about more than 3 or 4 minutes.
117306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T19:34:02.9180000-05:00I have no idea what happened. I wasn't there. Just presenting some history and a suggestion. Illicit was tongue in cheek.
118304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-04-25T19:35:56.3760000-05:00I've served on several boards over the years. It is very common for there to be a transition meeting for things to move smoothly to the next board. No one stepped forward from the previous board to make that happen. If Alex and Robert wanted things to go smoothly and to be helpful then they should have put together a time for us to transition and not had a meeting scheduled less than 24 hours after the board elections. I had to ask for a time for questions and answers since I had not heard from them. This should be something we learn from as we move forward.
119306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T19:37:21.4420000-05:00Guys this isn't helping you out. You need to work as a team. There are going to be enough people waiting to cause issues for you without it happening between old and new board members.
120306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T19:38:35.7320000-05:00I believe very strongly in at least two new members of the board from past dealings. I'm hoping you guys will figure stuff out and team it up.
121304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-04-25T19:38:38.2760000-05:00That's why we are scheduling a leadership time for all of us to bond and get to know each other better and learn some skills that will help us all work together.
122306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T19:39:30.3910000-05:00I haven't seen the minutes yet. How much is that going to cost you guys?
123304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-04-25T19:39:45.5140000-05:00I am footing the bill because I believe very strongly in this
124306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T19:40:51.6850000-05:00That's generous of you. Those aren't cheap.
125304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-04-25T19:41:04.2050000-05:00It's important
126300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T20:27:59.4110000-05:00Keep in mind that DMS runs by its own rules, not those of regularly elected political body. If members want to move to a more stoic approach, so be it, but until then, SRC3 rules the day. And guess what? One of the items on that protocol is to handle problems OUTSIDE of meetings.
127300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T20:28:01.5620000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/w/index.php?oldid=16344
128300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T20:28:48.9650000-05:00I know it's hard, but protocols like SRC3 and do-ocracy are still the core of DMS until someone changes them.
129115183069555589125aceat642017-04-25T20:56:48.8170000-05:00"Most everything should be decided on the wiki, over mailing lists and any other communication method that reaches all members."
130115183069555589125aceat642017-04-25T20:57:43.1120000-05:00We're way off topic for this chat though
131306540648234876928sewingstuff25612017-04-25T21:07:24.1980000-05:00It's somewhat relevant as it's dealing with a logistics decision. But I get your point. 😃
132115183069555589125aceat642017-04-25T21:10:50.8710000-05:00I suggest #general_chatter
133300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T21:23:53.9210000-05:00But back to that point - there were hundreds of entries on TALK prior to the logistics change that met the spirit of that requirement.
134300320547588276225clk94312017-04-25T21:24:44.6570000-05:00The wiki is much unloved. Poor wiki...
135300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-04-26T16:11:24.4060000-05:00!volunteer
136306874939535917066dallas-makerspace#47632017-04-26T16:11:24.5700000-05:00Role added
137109359055532732416clone10182017-04-30T14:45:13.4780000-05:00Logistics meeting 3pm purple don't forget
138300157480414085131.ladyl2017-04-30T14:50:58.5720000-05:00@LukeStrickland you might want to post a reminder on TALK as well...
139109359055532732416clone10182017-04-30T14:52:08.3050000-05:00Done👍 (1)
140300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-02T16:05:51.1930000-05:00I've moved the "3 Month" supply of toilet paper and folding paper towels into the Unisex bathroom shelf. This gets the paper goods down to the level where our cleaning lady can reach them easily. I think perhaps the 3 month number is a vast underestimation of how full of shit our membership is. 😉😆 (1),💩 (3)
141227585388544393219axeonos2017-05-02T23:41:06.9080000-05:00:trollface:
142194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-02T23:45:52.7400000-05:00Challenge accepted
143306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-02T23:58:35.4520000-05:00@StanSimmons Thank you....
144309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-03T00:20:06.2670000-05:00I am looking for a good time to hold another meeting of the Members Exchange comite I ned to knwo when and what time would be good for most of us
145309079425679360000raymond0119052017-05-03T00:27:25.0600000-05:00I'm out of town until the afternoon of the 6th
146309079425679360000raymond0119052017-05-03T00:28:04.4930000-05:00Dan, fix your avatar... you have the Mickey Mouse pants (default) one
147309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-03T00:53:52.3930000-05:00hahahahaha, would y all believe that this is the first time I have ever used a picture of me as my avatar?
148309079425679360000raymond0119052017-05-03T01:14:52.0000000-05:00did the camera survive? (hee hee hee)
149194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-03T01:16:43.0720000-05:00You can use the @ symbol and people's names to send them a notification, / should bring up a pop up with a few commands, and !about and !help to talk with the DMS bot that we are working to add features to
150309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-03T01:18:07.4480000-05:00That one was taken at some art festival in the TX both, I hate having my picture taken
151309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-03T02:01:22.7830000-05:00TXU booth
152300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-04T18:25:48.4460000-05:00The printer for the replacement Storage Kiosk has arrived.😃 (2),👌 (1),👏 (1),dms (3)
153309079425679360000raymond0119052017-05-04T18:32:25.6590000-05:00Nice 😃
154309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-04T21:37:09.7620000-05:00That is great news,
155306262594434629632engpin19642017-05-06T14:21:02.8430000-05:00Hey dogalla I have been trying to email you and it's bouncing back
156306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-08T00:06:01.5770000-05:00what email are you using to reach me?
157306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-08T00:17:07.9890000-05:00LOGISTICS COMMITTEE MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT 14 MAY 2017 AT 2:00 PM IN THE PURPLE ROOM Let's start taking care of business!!! All hands on deck!!! Logistics Organization Meeting continued. Vote on SRC3 Committee Meeting format Election of Vice-chairs Review of Team Responsibilities Replenishment Area Team Community Area Team Storage Area Team Status update of new Storage system Review of Current Logistical Task List Member Exchange Committee report in preparation for upcoming Board Meeting. Any other business... Hope to see everyone there!!!
158227585388544393219axeonos2017-05-08T08:17:15.6440000-05:00You do realize thats mothers day right?
159306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-09T10:13:11.9080000-05:00uh oh... Thanks for pointing that out... I just checked the room availability for Saturday and everything is booked up solid. If there is anyone who had intended to come to the next Logistics Committee Meeting and can not attend due to Mother's Day obligations please reply. We will be voting on some important agenda items and I would like to make sure everyone has a chance to vote.
160300157480414085131.ladyl2017-05-09T13:55:45.4480000-05:00@dpgalla don't forget to post something about this on TALK if you want to maximize the chances of it being seen. ☺
161306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-09T13:56:58.3320000-05:00I did! Thanks! I will get all this figured out one day... Hehehe
162300157480414085131.ladyl2017-05-09T13:58:00.5040000-05:00👍 👍 😃
163300157480414085131.ladyl2017-05-09T14:00:42.6900000-05:00I think it's great that you have jumped in with both feet, organizing teams, and communicating really well with all! Thanks! 😃 😃
164309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-10T23:13:00.6300000-05:00I will be at the space Thurs afternoon for and I need input on the freegie chelf committee proposa, and I can use a proof reader
165300465754439155712uglyknees2017-05-11T11:26:21.8910000-05:00Two shipments for @Adam are on the way. One Saturday and one 17-24th (small box) please keep an eye out.
166309189967022653441cairenn85042017-05-13T23:55:53.0810000-05:00Where do they need to be put?
167227790908035170305adam13342017-05-14T00:39:58.9350000-05:00they are put away already
168306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-14T22:34:25.3540000-05:00New Committee Proposal - Member Exchange Committee
169306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-14T22:35:27.4890000-05:00See the wiki and Talk for details...
170194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-14T23:08:01.7550000-05:00(post a link) youll get a shiny badge on talk if enough people click it
171300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-16T13:14:07.7990000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/314103238435799040/20170516_131123.jpg?ex=67b96b2f&is=67b819af&hm=4c7c682e2002992eb23ebd9ece1f1def61f27ad97df67c4189169d4def1dd0b7&
172194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-16T13:19:08.7110000-05:00"short maker dies in mountain of toilet paper"
173194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-16T13:19:14.8620000-05:00Best headline😂 (2)
174300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-16T13:20:29.7210000-05:00"No longer underestimating how full of it our membership is..."
175300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-05-16T13:23:52.7140000-05:00Costco $233.85 12 cases Kirkland TP, 3 cases paper towels... We were down to one and a partial case of ULine (Charmin) TP and out of paper towel rolls.😃 (1),😂 (1)
176300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-05-16T22:46:29.7540000-05:00that is a lot of toilet clogging goodness. Please don't use it up in a week 😉
177194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-29T17:45:34.2960000-05:00What's the deal with the storage system and slots opening up? I've been trying to get one for a while now but nothing expires anymore
178194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-29T18:26:43.2160000-05:00@logistics chair
179306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-29T20:22:28.0990000-05:00There were quite a few opened up first part of May.
180306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-05-29T20:25:30.2660000-05:00There will be more coming up around Jun 10; check with @raymond .
181227585388544393219axeonos2017-06-03T19:39:58.4980000-05:00anyone have a sams club account?
182109359055532732416clone10182017-06-03T20:25:33.0740000-05:00@Axeonos afaik Stan does
183109359055532732416clone10182017-06-03T20:25:46.1020000-05:00Or maybe thats the other big box store
184300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-06-03T20:56:46.2620000-05:00I have Costco
185302089838222376960alerho2017-06-03T21:51:46.9990000-05:00I have the space Sam's club if it's still valid.
186301506163219103755ray0122582017-06-14T14:06:07.8900000-05:00I have a Costco membership
187109359055532732416clone10182017-06-16T07:17:20.9520000-05:00If anyone has some extra time, I need to figure out what the board allocated the extra roboreels for so I can get them installed. I remember seeing it in the minutes but I have a busy day
188306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-06-16T08:23:19.8280000-05:00There are 4 Electric and 3 Air (or vice versa) RoboReels locked up in the Electrical Room. I will be on site Sunday and can show you were they need to be installed and the tool kit for installing the air hose assemblies. I think the electrical ones just plug into a regular electrical outlet..
189109359055532732416clone10182017-06-16T08:31:18.8180000-05:00Oh ok. Cool I didn't know if we knew where we needed them or not. I can do Sunday morning for a couple of hours, I'll have more time during the work week.
190109359055532732416clone10182017-06-16T08:32:05.0580000-05:00@dpgalla I also replaced one of the light fixtures with LEDs in the purple classroom, it was very easy but I say we do two person teams when we do the shop
191306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-06-16T08:49:41.6630000-05:00Thanks... I am planning on being at the Off-Siting on Sunday at noon. I will get there a little early to visit with you. Again, THANK YOU!!! Also ... there is a Logistics Committee Meeting on Tuesday evening. If you could attend you and explain what is involved in the LED process you should be able to recruit some folks for the LED project as well as the RoboReel project.
192109359055532732416clone10182017-06-16T09:01:02.5340000-05:00I'll be there Tuesday evening
193194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-22T19:02:36.1000000-05:00So I had this thought a little late but I'm going to see if Dani can get a wholesaler discount on chairs
194194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-22T19:03:15.8360000-05:00Shes pretty sure she can get 50%off from knoll
195194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-22T19:08:00.7730000-05:00The question is if her boss will buy them and sell them to us at no markup🤞 (1)
196300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-06-23T02:32:17.3500000-05:00Knoll makes good stuff.
197194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-23T02:33:20.7280000-05:00she found one similar to the caper
198194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-23T02:33:26.9250000-05:00280 retail
199194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-23T02:33:56.2790000-05:00might not be as comfortable
200109359055532732416clone10182017-06-23T07:41:12.0400000-05:00What's the warranty on it @pearce
201194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-06-23T11:59:14.7260000-05:00Dunno I didn't look them up
202109359055532732416clone10182017-06-23T13:13:47.9740000-05:00That's pretty important
203109359055532732416clone10182017-06-23T13:13:54.7750000-05:00the capers are not worth it without it
204302089838222376960alerho2017-06-28T19:14:00.0960000-05:00Caper chairs have been ordered and will be here the week of the 10th. Don't have an exact date yet.
205302089838222376960alerho2017-06-28T19:16:00.8400000-05:00Idea about auctioning off bids to select chairs? Maybe do it the 13th member meeting?
206302089838222376960alerho2017-06-29T01:00:29.4480000-05:00Scratch that, we get the exact arrival date the week of the 10th. They will take 4-6 weeks to get here.
207189645236908064768themitch222017-06-29T10:11:35.6610000-05:00I have a suggestion for people that aren't a fan of these chairs, make a slip cover with padding.
208194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:21:06.6330000-05:00Anyone know the logistics email?
209109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:22:02.1770000-05:00@pearce logistics@dallasmakerspace.org
210109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:22:06.6600000-05:00anything I can help with?
211194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:22:16.8050000-05:00Does it get checked though?
212109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:22:31.8010000-05:00Not sure, never heard Dan talk about it
213194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:22:33.1520000-05:00I can't make the storage meeting. Need to extend my slot
214109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:23:13.8620000-05:00Anyone who can proxy for you?
215194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:23:20.2470000-05:00Can you?
216109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:23:24.3270000-05:00What day is it?
217194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:23:27.1690000-05:00I was going to email
218194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:23:45.7080000-05:00I thought it was today, since the cards say it expires on July 2nd
219194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:24:07.2000000-05:00In theory they get off sited next week
220109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:24:15.5960000-05:00let me text dan
221109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:30:26.7410000-05:00@dpgalla do we have a storage meeting today
222194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T14:32:38.7220000-05:00Ay that's my line
223109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:33:16.6740000-05:00I lost his number 😓
224109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T14:33:31.9760000-05:00I messaged raymond too he's in "charge" of project storage
225306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-07-02T15:09:50.2370000-05:00i didnt schedule one for today. I had left that up to Raymond to do since I am out of pocket this weekend
226109359055532732416clone10182017-07-02T15:14:03.3190000-05:00cc @pearce
227194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T15:14:51.3240000-05:00Blaaaargh
228194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T15:14:57.6560000-05:00That's cool though
229194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T15:15:07.3560000-05:00I'll move my stuff for now
230300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-07-02T16:45:29.3390000-05:00https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/2974 Wed Jul 5 7pm — 8pm
231194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T16:52:23.2460000-05:00Huh
232194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-02T16:52:42.1930000-05:00That means all the storage cards will be expired by 3 days
233189645236908064768themitch222017-07-03T21:43:45.4020000-05:00So vacuum cleaner
234189645236908064768themitch222017-07-03T21:43:54.3860000-05:00the dyson doesn't work
235227585388544393219axeonos2017-07-03T22:02:07.3870000-05:00It doesnt suck.
236304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-04T12:18:19.7730000-05:00Reminds me to request a good replacement regular vacuum cleaner from logistics. The one we have is on its last legs. As for the dyson, did you clean it out thoroughly? It's a piece of &$$)
237456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T13:04:18.1840000-05:00@kriskat30 this is the vacuum I was telling you I have. Shark Rocket Ultra-Light Upright (HV302) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUKHACW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_hG9wzbWJ2YAW1 It's pretty great. Light weight, vacuums up pet hair really well, and is self-propelled so you don't have to push it as awkwardly.
238304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-04T13:05:56.8580000-05:00I'm wondering if it's heavy duty enough for every single day at the space
239456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T13:06:27.8030000-05:00We waited and got it on sale at Nebraska furniture. I can bring it up today to demo it since my OCD is driving me up the wall about dirt. I don't recommend vaccuming up plastic pieces, metal, or big pieces of anything with any vacuum. It seems like common sense, but not everyone understands vacuums aren't magic
240456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T13:06:52.8700000-05:00My brother broke his vacuum by sucking up cat litter with it
241456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T13:07:37.2530000-05:00Well you can give it a go before you decide. Nebraska also has a ton for you to demo up there.
242304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-04T13:08:48.2820000-05:00I won't put your vacuum to test at the space. I appreciate the offer though.
243456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T13:09:05.6800000-05:00I am a part time maid on the side and cleaned the worst pet hair/dirt/dust house I have seen in my entire life. My vacuum has seen worse then the space, lol
244304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-04T13:11:48.4180000-05:00If you can tell me you use it every single day in a 10k square ft area and it still works perfectly well then I will think about it. Thank you very much for the offer Kat👍 (1)
245456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T13:18:39.9660000-05:00Maybe look into something from a janitor supply place then? since those would be made for large surface areas daily. I think there is one off harry Hines not far from the space that is open to the public
246304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-04T13:43:01.9870000-05:00Great idea. 😊
247300083517877125121andrew51522017-07-04T14:42:43.7580000-05:00FYI, you probably already know this, but ~2 years ago, when the Dyson was purchased against what appeared to me to be better advise, this was kicked around quit a bit. Some of those opinions might still be valid, or worthy of investigation: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dear-makerspace/2824 I, for one, stand by my recommendation of spending some $$ and getting a commercial unit, e.g. http://www.janitors-world.com/sucopro10.html and "janitor's world" as recommended by Nick Sainz https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dear-makerspace/2824/9?u=jast is still a going concern, and local (probably the one alluded to by KatDell)...
248304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-04T15:06:35.7820000-05:00Thank you Andrew!
249456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-04T15:13:48.1370000-05:00Yes janitor world is the local place I was referring to!
250227585388544393219axeonos2017-07-09T19:54:49.0570000-05:00there was a vaccum on the free shelf, it works and is good for getting pets smell off carpets. can be good as a backup vacuum
251306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-07-09T20:41:55.7430000-05:00Cool... There is some logistic storage on the shelf near Vector is you need a place to store it.
252227585388544393219axeonos2017-07-09T22:07:14.4450000-05:00i put it in the janitor closet
253109359055532732416clone10182017-07-11T11:30:38.0230000-05:00@dpgalla Can I attend https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/3045 ?
254306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-07-11T11:31:54.8550000-05:00Yes... btw... Richard Box (Community Area Vice-chair) has left DMS... would you be interested in the position?
255302089838222376960alerho2017-07-11T11:33:41.5740000-05:00I'm interested.
256302089838222376960alerho2017-07-11T11:34:20.0120000-05:00But if Luke wants it I won't contest it.
257109359055532732416clone10182017-07-11T11:35:34.7690000-05:00What does a Community Area vice chair do? I'm interested in maintaining the members work areas and maintaining the building
258109359055532732416clone10182017-07-11T11:39:00.7300000-05:00I'm also not against Alex having the role lol
259109359055532732416clone10182017-07-11T11:39:05.8940000-05:00Whatever gets stuff done!
260302089838222376960alerho2017-07-11T11:40:42.0300000-05:00Agreed. Getting things done is key.
261300078993577607170merissa43082017-07-11T12:58:40.7890000-05:00It'd be helpful if the committee wiki was updated with info on vice chair roles so people know what's what
262306394419102351360dpgalla42002017-07-11T13:08:57.2450000-05:00Indeed... The whole Logistics wiki page needs a complete re-work.
263302089838222376960alerho2017-07-14T09:55:37.6140000-05:00Just got confirmation email on the chairs. They will be here 8/24.
264109359055532732416clone10182017-07-14T09:56:44.3960000-05:00woo
265302089838222376960alerho2017-07-14T09:57:11.9520000-05:00That's 8 weeks from order not 4-6 like they originally said. 😦
266302089838222376960alerho2017-07-14T09:57:43.6590000-05:00Whatever. Chairs are on their way.
267109359055532732416clone10182017-07-20T13:21:27.1350000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/337660291967877120/IMG_20170720_130050.jpg?ex=67b96ce7&is=67b81b67&hm=6b5959f440d6936b343d786ac37278527c95b482f2ac003f167c44c52f70b6a7&dms (1),😍 (1)
268109359055532732416clone10182017-07-20T13:21:44.9910000-05:00Tried to fit all the tools on the shelf
269194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-20T13:38:51.1080000-05:00Snazzy
270121823075548266496shdragon2017-07-20T13:48:27.8940000-05:00Damn that's pretty.
271109359055532732416clone10182017-07-20T16:36:17.1360000-05:00We need to get replacement dremel sets. I'm trying to figure out how we can keep all the parts together instead of all the tiny pieces wandering around. Does anyone have any ideas or do we just buy enough that its not an issue?
272109359055532732416clone10182017-07-20T16:37:24.6380000-05:00Wonder how the performance of wireless dremels are.
273302089838222376960alerho2017-07-20T16:38:19.3050000-05:00My money is on them being dead when it comes to me needing them.
274109359055532732416clone10182017-07-20T16:39:01.0370000-05:00I can agree with that
275302089838222376960alerho2017-07-20T16:39:02.1970000-05:00The ryobis work because of the standard battery across multiple devices and charging station.
276109359055532732416clone10182017-07-20T16:45:10.7180000-05:00We also can't forget to install safety chains on the vertical storage
277304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-20T17:23:51.9850000-05:00You rock @LukeStrickland
278304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-07-20T17:25:01.4170000-05:00I'm looking into boxed sets right now for the dremels.
279456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-21T22:31:36.9940000-05:00Printer room Computer said Samsung printer in hallway is getting low on ink.
280109359055532732416clone10182017-07-22T07:39:30.4700000-05:00@Deleted User That's @infrastructure chair
281300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-07-23T01:28:36.9720000-05:00I'm monitoring the toner level and will replace it when empty. It still has 6% according to the printer
282109359055532732416clone10182017-07-23T11:14:38.7770000-05:00I'm at home depot right now picking up some 4x4s and finish for two new work table surfaces
283456226577798135808Deleted User2017-07-23T11:29:06.6110000-05:00Alright thanks @LukeStrickland
284109359055532732416clone10182017-07-23T11:44:22.8140000-05:00Don't know why I said 4x4s lol meant plywood
285302089838222376960alerho2017-08-07T22:12:24.9460000-05:00Did Offsiting happen?
286302089838222376960alerho2017-08-07T22:12:52.2310000-05:00Also, Can I make a request for Allen Wrenches here or do you want me to make the request another way?
287109359055532732416clone10182017-08-08T08:08:41.8450000-05:00Offsiting happened
288109359055532732416clone10182017-08-08T08:09:02.1890000-05:00I'll check out our allen wrenches today and get with steve to order some
289302089838222376960alerho2017-08-10T00:17:32.3620000-05:00So my question is, dont the 7 day notices go out the first Saturday/sunday of the month? If thats the case then the 7 day notices should have gone out on 5th/6th. Off siteing should occur this coming weekend. I recently bought a sheet of foam for cutting inserts forthe Multicam drawers and went up on Monday to cut them, but foam was gone.
290302089838222376960alerho2017-08-10T00:17:54.6510000-05:00Do you know if a large foam sheet was off sited?
291194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-10T00:23:40.4170000-05:00Who knows. The dates are all fucked up.
292194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-10T00:23:51.3270000-05:00We don't even have new cards for the storage slots
293302089838222376960alerho2017-08-10T00:24:57.7110000-05:00Is anyone actively working on the electronic ticketing system?
294194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-10T00:26:57.9940000-05:00I thought Brandon open sourced it? We just needed the hardware
295302089838222376960alerho2017-08-10T00:28:18.3350000-05:00That was brought up at the last logistics meeting, Merissa offered to voluntell Brandon to help but was denied stating that it was being worked on.
296304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-10T04:24:18.4510000-05:00Several purple foam sheets were off sited.
297306967333270716416brockelee2017-08-10T08:32:13.0740000-05:00I went last night to pick up some of my lumber, there was a full sheet of foam leaning on the wall.
298109359055532732416clone10182017-08-10T08:47:29.8560000-05:00@Alex Rhodes We definitely off sited 3 foam boards
299109359055532732416clone10182017-08-10T08:47:44.6690000-05:00Currently Bill is working on the electronic ticketing system
300302089838222376960alerho2017-08-10T08:48:24.6250000-05:00I only had one. It was the pink house insulation stuff.
301109359055532732416clone10182017-08-10T08:48:30.3660000-05:00@pearce Sorry I notified Raymond about that, they should be here last night or today
302109359055532732416clone10182017-08-10T08:48:40.0400000-05:00Yeah it was pink, I think someone else had some
303302089838222376960alerho2017-08-10T08:48:52.9710000-05:00Ok.
304109359055532732416clone10182017-08-11T19:26:58.5630000-05:00Two of the air robot reels have blown their fitting this week
305109359055532732416clone10182017-08-11T19:27:29.8580000-05:00I'm not sure why. I refitted them according to the instructions👍 (1)
306303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:40:51.1570000-05:00What is the output pressure on the other side of the master regulator?
307303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:41:10.6940000-05:00if it's over 120, that's likely why
308109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:46:24.6590000-05:00@mr.clark6147 it's either 120 or 150, can't remember, either way why would that be a problem?
309109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:46:45.5800000-05:00It's rated for 300
310303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:47:30.9840000-05:00the higher the pressure, the more likely those compression fittings will blow out and fail
311303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:47:49.7590000-05:00particularly in the hostile environment that is our plenum space where it's all run
312109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:47:50.5470000-05:00I wonder if we could retrofit it with a better connection, they're loose anyway
313303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:48:11.9140000-05:00Honest to God, we need to remove the whole thing and start again with bigger hose
314303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:48:34.1060000-05:00circular loop with 2"
315303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:48:41.9490000-05:00branches come off at 1"
316303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:48:57.9640000-05:00and then the little shit that comes down to drops can be 3/4 "
317303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:49:31.0580000-05:00the combination of the pressure plus the volume is just too much for that 1/2" main loop
318303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:49:40.4560000-05:00I'm surprised we don't blow more fittings, actually
319109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:49:51.8160000-05:00Plus there's no shutoff valves for anything lol
320109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:49:59.0630000-05:00So you gotta turn off the whole line 😦
321109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:50:14.5820000-05:00I only checked the machine shop / automotive connections
322303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:50:15.5160000-05:00yeah, every place that we drop off the main loop needs to be able to be valved off
323303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:50:43.6310000-05:00it'll be expensive, but worth it
324109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:51:00.7450000-05:00Yeah I'm with you
325303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:51:03.5280000-05:00the good news is that the Pex-al-pex stuff we used is really, really tolerant of failure
326303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:51:10.9740000-05:00I'm SO GLAD we're not hard piped
327109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:51:26.7470000-05:00Would you be against hard piped?
328109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:51:30.3450000-05:00Stan was talking about it
329109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:51:36.8440000-05:00If we did it right
330303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:51:39.5220000-05:00well, he's the issue with hard piping:
331303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:51:48.1440000-05:00copper is REALLY expensive, but best.
332303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:52:26.5560000-05:00Iron is second best, but then we have to put filters at each and every drop, and clean them regularly (because of the humidity in the air line, it'll scale/rust the interior of the pipe, and we don't want that crap in our equipment)
333303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:53:03.0360000-05:00PVC is just too dangerous, because it has weak spots, and when the weak spot fails, it turns that section of pipe into a grenade
334303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:53:29.1670000-05:00If we were going to be in this location forever, I'd advocate for putting in copper lines and doing it right
335303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:53:47.4590000-05:00but it's only a 2 year lease, so I'd say let's do the pex-al-pex again, just in the right size this time
336109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:54:35.5240000-05:00Do you think we can easily do a phase over process? Run some 2in line now with a downsize fitting for the existing connection. Do one area of the shop at a time?
337303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:55:39.1720000-05:00Ummmm. Maybe?
338303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:55:57.0780000-05:00I'd advocate doing an overnight maintenance personally.
339303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:56:03.2770000-05:00many hands make light work
340303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:56:19.5230000-05:006 people could have it done in a matter of hours
341303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:56:30.2500000-05:00start at 10, finish at 2, something like that
342303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:56:35.5220000-05:00on a Friday or Saturday night
343109359055532732416clone10182017-08-13T08:56:41.1180000-05:00ok thanks for your thoughts
344303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:56:51.4340000-05:00OR, honest to God, do it first thing in the morning
345303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:57:01.5950000-05:00like, start at 0600, finish at 1000
346303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:57:04.1670000-05:00on a Saturday
347303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:57:13.2440000-05:00that's when I come in to do my woodworking
348303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:57:17.2890000-05:00because the space is DEAD
349303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:57:19.0290000-05:00it's great
350303588661855911946mr.clark61472017-08-13T08:57:31.4000000-05:00also, that'd be the point in time when the plenum is the coolest
351300083517877125121andrew51522017-08-13T16:14:11.1540000-05:00I'll 2nd the 6-10 shift. I might even make that. I'm not much of a vampire, myself.
352300083517877125121andrew51522017-08-13T16:14:41.0960000-05:00Any ballparks for the overhaul? $1,000? $10,000?
353109359055532732416clone10182017-08-17T21:30:48.9690000-05:00I added some information to the wiki for Logistics, https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Logistics_Committee
354109359055532732416clone10182017-08-17T21:40:57.1540000-05:00let me know if I did anything dumb
355304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-18T01:51:37.7500000-05:00That's awesome @LukeStrickland
356109359055532732416clone10182017-08-18T09:41:25.5070000-05:00Logistics Monthly Committee Meeting: https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/3487
357210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-08-20T23:55:22.8750000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/349053848528093186/IMG_20170820_232923.jpg?ex=67b958ba&is=67b8073a&hm=69346ee9c3624a1b8912a4ed4796bd44571b385f3eab1230d8b47727a74a6186&,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/349053848528093189/IMG_20170820_234705.jpg?ex=67b958ba&is=67b8073a&hm=b64151b23c62462bd64a2fe8d40bf2f931569a60d9c775187a4e741e40a2f051&,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/349053849140723713/IMG_20170820_232931.jpg?ex=67b958ba&is=67b8073a&hm=45aecb4d0bcedc6788c3c8b710272e3915825e84a98816574ef5dd1bbcf1187c&
358314935975182860288thereadviking2017-08-21T00:35:30.5270000-05:00Wooooo! Fancy new chairs!
35964883087749689344seri2017-08-21T01:25:15.8880000-05:00Nice! I've already used the new chairs a lot at other places
36064883087749689344seri2017-08-21T01:25:35.9430000-05:00they're pretty nice, but the nuts tend to loosen up and fall out over time
36164883087749689344seri2017-08-21T01:26:05.6840000-05:00It'd be handy to reinforce them with lock-tite or to just keep an alan wrench nearby
362306967333270716416brockelee2017-08-21T08:55:29.4640000-05:00What are we doing with the old chairs?
363109359055532732416clone10182017-08-21T09:10:46.5230000-05:00We have a comittee meeting on Tuesday at 7PM, you're welcome to come. Not sure what we're doing with them yet
364306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-08-21T10:09:35.2420000-05:00If they are put up sale for a couple of days, there are some I'd pay $20 for.
365306967333270716416brockelee2017-08-21T11:55:53.4330000-05:00Ditto
366304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-30T11:40:56.6260000-05:00Late night paint crew needed this weekend. Any !volunteer (s)?
367194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-30T11:45:17.7910000-05:00for?
368109359055532732416clone10182017-08-30T11:45:45.7080000-05:00The hallway i think, cc @kriskat30
369194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-30T11:45:52.0870000-05:00wut
370194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-30T11:45:55.7580000-05:00again?
371109359055532732416clone10182017-08-30T11:46:16.0970000-05:00🤷
372304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-30T12:19:51.8810000-05:00Stuff happens. Logistics is putting a permanent French cleat system so no more holes in walls.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/352502695116013588/image.jpg?ex=67b95e77&is=67b80cf7&hm=a9d3fee3a58ddc98d9ad5a7bbd3aa4fdc33786c6b817b22aa16be1a998664c5b&
373194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-08-30T12:22:32.4180000-05:00Oh yeah I gave up on doing touch ups while that wall was brown
374121823075548266496shdragon2017-08-30T13:20:15.2700000-05:00How late is "late night"?
375302089838222376960alerho2017-08-30T15:24:00.0010000-05:00Same color? The color for the front room is something like stardust. I can try and find it if you plan on keeping it all the same color.
376304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-30T17:12:46.0620000-05:007 pm to 11 ish. And if the night makers want to stay later I'll buy pizza
377304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-30T17:14:09.2700000-05:00Thank you Alex,logistics already took care of the paint. I volunteered to get painters.
378121823075548266496shdragon2017-08-30T17:38:35.8370000-05:00I can volunteer for that if you're still looking for people.
379304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-08-30T23:33:03.1560000-05:00Awesome!
380121823075548266496shdragon2017-09-01T12:20:00.3550000-05:00Were the painting volunteers needed tonight or Saturday or..?
381109359055532732416clone10182017-09-01T13:05:49.4910000-05:00cc @kriskat30
382304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-09-01T13:07:42.5050000-05:00Both days. We will start tonight at 7 and same tomorrow night!
383304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-09-01T13:08:00.7250000-05:00Pick which works best for you. And thank you!
384109359055532732416clone10182017-09-28T09:02:22.1350000-05:00I offsited old Logistics materials. Old / Broken Tools, Old Tool Shelf Hangers, Old Ryobi Charges (still good if we need them) and the Broken? air hose reel.
385109359055532732416clone10182017-09-28T09:02:26.2480000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/362962259171082250/5DHdxYh7DiAAiLDhpG-7nVu4-hMJwx2KCS-dUpOIUEoAaQL9-QQ5grT7Q4VUoH0xKfSTW_vVsJDYZ7Yn9lgMF-nBaIg9qx1aBZcF.png?ex=67b93032&is=67b7deb2&hm=522ff21fad0ef2b5f01f7e3d90abca32db9c550a2ff03d6c32de642adecea04f&
386207961619538378762denzuko2017-09-29T20:35:59.2790000-05:00@logistics chair I'm trying round up every one for the requirements gathering on mm/calendar revamp and we're needing your input. when is a good time on your schedule for a quick 45min meeting?
387109359055532732416clone10182017-09-30T19:14:40.2310000-05:00@Denzuko.sdf.org you let me know a time and I'll make it work
388194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-10-18T22:03:15.9580000-05:00@LukeStrickland you are now @logistics chair and can post in #committee_chairs to talk with them, sorry this took longer than i said, i forgot
389109359055532732416clone10182017-10-18T22:03:40.8540000-05:00NP thanks
390210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-10-23T07:46:07.7870000-05:00The auto leveler and dock door have been blocked for a while. Is that stuff trash? Need to go to storage?
391210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-10-23T07:52:21.3110000-05:00I'm thinking about the laser delivery in the next couple of weeks. Let me know if I can help dissolve the pile.
392109359055532732416clone10182017-10-23T09:17:05.4830000-05:00I'll throw away the tiles and insulation today
393109359055532732416clone10182017-10-23T09:17:14.8000000-05:00but we gotta find someone to take the bulbs
394109359055532732416clone10182017-10-23T19:32:36.2050000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/372180542889787392/JPEG_20171023_193225.jpg?ex=67b9c3e4&is=67b87264&hm=918fbb153ba84f64158ee59eaa2f8d2def7085e5c95391ddc2f7484ceb4cbcdb&
395109359055532732416clone10182017-10-23T19:33:16.8750000-05:00Should be good to go @lukeiamyourfather
396210812487061209088redbeardedpirate2017-10-23T20:45:25.4910000-05:00@LukeStrickland 👍👍👍👍👍
397306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-10-24T15:08:42.1230000-05:001019
398300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-08T10:35:07.5240000-06:00Meeting tonight at 6? I'm going to try to make it but may be a little late. Hard to get there by 6 with traffic coming from fort worth
399109359055532732416clone10182017-11-08T10:47:19.3510000-06:00its cool if you're late👍 (1)
400300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-11-08T13:48:18.5690000-06:00I may be a little late as well. Not sure yet how the afternoon will go.
401300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-08T17:46:48.1730000-06:00Wreck on 121/114, definitely going to be late 😢
402300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-08T18:05:05.2480000-06:00Omg guys, havent moved a mile in the last 20 mins. I might not even make it by 7 😭
403302089838222376960alerho2017-11-08T18:49:33.5980000-06:00Still currently talking about front room.
404302089838222376960alerho2017-11-09T00:25:53.8680000-06:00Found this on a FB page for another makerspace.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/378067657599090688/23275330_1733428826702375_3882403921994247700_o.png?ex=67b96df1&is=67b81c71&hm=bd02221fb85f631f4de4854e0f3fb35e3c1fb4fa8dff8ba0545f4e3985b8020d&
405194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-09T00:27:47.0540000-06:00i mean... we can post pictures of our tool wall after a cleanup day too
406302089838222376960alerho2017-11-09T00:28:36.9730000-06:00yeah, but in the logistics meeting we discussed how to arrange that wall .
407194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-09T00:28:42.1280000-06:00ah
408302089838222376960alerho2017-11-09T00:28:45.6500000-06:00right now its just got a few things on it
409109359055532732416clone10182017-11-09T08:26:05.3310000-06:00Thanks @Alex Rhodes I think that picture is accurate to what I want
410302089838222376960alerho2017-11-09T14:11:11.8250000-06:00@@LukeStrickland sent you email about towing. Let me know if you have questions.
411306285952303759360davidkessinger97072017-11-11T14:16:58.7540000-06:00I noticed there are cars left by those in Houston - hope you're back within 48 hours.
412300078993577607170merissa43082017-11-13T15:08:46.4130000-06:00Is there a hold up on installing more air roboreels? We'd still like one in laser, and if it's just a manpower issue I can try to get a volunteer to install it in our area as we're installing new lasers
413109359055532732416clone10182017-11-15T08:33:10.5730000-06:00BTW @David Kessinger no one who went to lemons left their car. The only people who carpooled was chuck and Brett and we picked them up
414194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T12:24:35.9780000-06:00Other than the potential loss of dollies and carts.... What would be the issue with having the freebie shelf take the place of the pallet rack by the 2nd garage door?
415194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T12:25:14.0050000-06:00That shelf was only there to give RC a storage area
416302089838222376960alerho2017-11-22T12:44:30.8680000-06:00Location and ease of access is what I have heard. Logistics started giving committees shelves again. I think if any shelves were to move over there it should be then. It's getting crowded by science/pallet storage.
417194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T12:56:26.0410000-06:00Im just thinking the shelf (actually the stuff surrounding the shelf) would be safer if it was isolated off on its own. Dont want stuff wandering off
418302089838222376960alerho2017-11-22T12:57:51.6020000-06:00Gotcha. Like the time the hand truck went off because someone thought it "close to the freebie shelf"
419194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-11-22T12:57:59.3890000-06:00Yep
420300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-11-22T15:20:57.5960000-06:00I think Luke S was talking about putting it where the yellow paint cabinet is now.... I may be mistaken
421109359055532732416clone10182017-11-22T16:50:07.6620000-06:00That's the goal right now, Freebie shelf by the entrance door from the classroom area, with no room for things that don't fit in the shelves.
422109359055532732416clone10182017-11-22T16:50:16.6370000-06:00Fire cabinet moves.. Somewhere
423302089838222376960alerho2017-11-22T16:50:34.4190000-06:00Near roll up door?
424109359055532732416clone10182017-11-22T16:50:51.9940000-06:00yeah, not sure how it'll fit if we allow those shelves to be used
425109359055532732416clone10182017-11-22T16:51:03.9660000-06:00I'm not at the space again until this weekend
426194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T16:20:36.5200000-06:00UTA solution to tool losshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/387730000205447168/JPEG_20171205_162011.jpg?ex=67b9a4f3&is=67b85373&hm=a49b23a7c7fe809fdc3b29ad5dabc9fcf2796f55750b7687e55f34ebe25c35a3&
427109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T16:24:27.3060000-06:00what is that thing?
428194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T16:28:47.1130000-06:00Metal cable crimped on with a 3d printed Fablab tag
429194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T16:29:19.1260000-06:00Its enough to make sure their tools don't get mixed up with someone else's toolbox
430109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T16:30:39.1060000-06:00ah I see
431194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T16:43:53.8400000-06:00There's enough space in the loop around the tool to move the cable out of the way but not to pull the cable off
432371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T17:06:25.0050000-06:00@pearce where is the cable from? I have been using zip ties for the classroom cables
433194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T17:06:56.3500000-06:00It's just 1/16 steel cable and crimps
434371416661040955403talkers2017-12-05T17:09:27.1100000-06:00Does it require a special crimping tool?
435194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-12-05T17:18:06.2830000-06:00I'd imagine so. It's a cable crimp. It's not a specific type of cable and crimps
436109359055532732416clone10182017-12-05T21:14:29.5700000-06:00I contacted Tile tonight to talk about any solutions they have in mind. I like the idea of being able to track our tools in the space. Well see what comes of it for sure
437240634037998190592jestersforge74942017-12-08T07:27:45.4290000-06:00Does anyone know if we have any more Storage Bins yet? Id like to get one, or should I run to IKEA and get mine? If so, i need the brand and dimensions plz
438371416661040955403talkers2017-12-08T08:51:54.2930000-06:00Stan ordered 10 a few days ago
439240634037998190592jestersforge74942017-12-08T09:10:11.0120000-06:00awesome
440371416661040955403talkers2017-12-08T09:16:52.8270000-06:00Still, if you are near IKEA, it would not be a bad idea to get one and secure a place. When the Space ones come in, you would then have one in the galley, and one for the car.
441109359055532732416clone10182017-12-08T09:19:17.4020000-06:00Trofast or somethingis the name
442109359055532732416clone10182017-12-08T09:19:21.7250000-06:00they're a standard size
443109359055532732416clone10182017-12-08T09:19:49.7800000-06:00http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/departments/childrens_ikea/20474/
444240634037998190592jestersforge74942017-12-08T10:14:56.2950000-06:00thanks guys
445300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-12-08T19:03:15.4780000-06:00The order from Ikea is due in Monday, 12/11.
446371416661040955403talkers2017-12-08T19:26:27.1480000-06:00Monday is like PayDay!
447240634037998190592jestersforge74942017-12-08T21:15:00.7480000-06:00😃
448194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-03T19:46:29.6650000-06:00Yep looks like the air line was pulled. All the holes have been replaced in the ceiling too
449109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:21:32.9940000-06:00Okay time to start figuring out how things fit
450109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:21:55.3070000-06:00Bluebonnet Brewoff cooler storage is max January 27 through March 10
451109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:22:09.0890000-06:00Donation shelf has to go to yellow fire cabinet
452109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:22:19.7310000-06:00So I have to figure out where to put the ladders / cabinet...
453302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:22:25.1670000-06:00I'll be up tonight and can help move things.
454109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:25:35.1870000-06:00Awesome
455109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:26:11.0140000-06:00Going to spitball for a bit
456109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:27:04.9280000-06:00One of the ideas is moving the shelf near the gantry to offsite for additional storage, if we do that we'll need to cut 4 feet off the top. If that shelf is gone it provides room for the fire cabinet and potentially the ladders.
457109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:27:39.0060000-06:00Ideally ladder storage would be a hook system with a hole in the ceiling. We had the ladders fall recently and I don't want that happening again
458109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:28:57.1220000-06:00One of the other solutions is using the storage by the gantry for our "Committee Storage" space, and removing the shelves next to the vacuum former. I'm inclined to believe machine shop would hate this
459109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:29:11.8670000-06:00I think I like idea 1
460302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:30:47.8370000-06:00What committees have "committee storage"?
461302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:30:56.2270000-06:00And do they really need it?
462302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:31:28.0350000-06:00Table space is really tight.
463109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:32:23.6860000-06:00Really it's just a couple, I use a majority of it honestly, infrastructure, motorsports, 3d fab
464109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:32:39.5540000-06:00the other 1/3 is DPRG
465109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:46:18.7170000-06:00@StanSimmons This look good for common room? split right down the middle almost ? http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80301136/
466300075929848381451stansimmons20312018-01-04T15:48:07.7000000-06:00@LukeStrickland That looks fine for the common room
467109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:48:23.2890000-06:00Awesome thanks
468302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:49:13.5110000-06:00It's not solid like the other tables just FYI.
469109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:50:46.5160000-06:00That wont work then
470302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:52:51.9870000-06:00https://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/art/60274964/
471302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:53:13.9200000-06:00They don't appear to make the solid wood ones thicker than 1 1/8th.
472109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:53:51.8180000-06:00http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20274961/?query=hammarp#/60274964
473109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:53:56.3190000-06:00Sold out though
474109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:54:09.3730000-06:00We linked the same thing lol
475302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:55:40.9330000-06:00What is it for? You can also check out floor&decor. They sell solid countertops.
476302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:55:43.7230000-06:00https://www.flooranddecor.com/wood-butcher-block-countertops/oak-builder-grade-butcher-block-countertop-8ft.-100054337.html#q=Solid%2Bcountertops&start=15
477302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:56:08.7270000-06:00They have other woods besides oak as well.
478302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:57:37.1390000-06:00https://www.flooranddecor.com/search?q=Solid+countertops
479109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:57:43.4150000-06:00The design station wall were building
480302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:58:14.7140000-06:00Cool.
481109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T15:58:15.4270000-06:00We dont need something too heavy duty just something that'll look nice
482302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T15:58:53.9110000-06:00That oak then. You can go poplar but I think that's too soft for this purpose.
483194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:00:15.7340000-06:00Side note, vacuformer needs either more space in the shelving to be rotated 90° or needs a deeper shelf
484194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:01:01.4070000-06:00Currently the handle sticks out into the walkway making a stab hazard and the power switch is unreachable
485109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:01:02.2320000-06:00I think the end goal is that you can pull it out to have all the room you need? The freebie shelf ruined those plans temporarily
486109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:01:18.5800000-06:00Where do you think it could go pearce?
487194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:01:31.4820000-06:00Rotate 90 would be perfect
488109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:01:46.8380000-06:00Where do you suggest the printing press would go?
489194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:02:46.0640000-06:00Not sure, but neither of those tools is going to fair well with the amount of dust being thrown on them.
490194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:03:27.7590000-06:00Chris and I were talking about putting panels on the shelf the vacuformer was in to get it some kind of dust protection
491109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:03:54.5170000-06:00Considerations there are sprinkler coverage and heat dissipation
492194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:04:01.0120000-06:00I wasn't aware the screen printing stuff was supposed to be there when we talked about moving it
493194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:04:55.9520000-06:00That's why we thought panels instead of cover. At 4 feet from the heaters it should be fine. It was cool enough to touch after the class
494109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:08:34.3670000-06:00I wonder where the dust is coming from
495109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:08:45.5780000-06:00I'd like to put a couple of the air monitors together
496109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:08:54.0120000-06:00To correlate with video
497109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:09:23.8550000-06:00I think router / saw usage in the general shop area
498194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T16:15:12.2850000-06:00Power sanders in the shop
499109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:16:38.4620000-06:00Alex, I think Floor and Decor will be perfect. 8ft Oak $169
500302089838222376960alerho2018-01-04T16:17:35.0870000-06:00It's builder quality at that price which means knots and such. I don't think we care but just want to make sure you know.
501109359055532732416clone10182018-01-04T16:18:04.4300000-06:00I'll ask Ian or someone to make it look good 😃👍 (2)
502306967333270716416brockelee2018-01-04T17:57:00.4660000-06:00So latex paint? 😀😂 (1)
503194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T18:05:01.9820000-06:00Bruh
504194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T18:05:06.8550000-06:00Acrylic paint.
505194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-01-04T18:05:25.1840000-06:00There's a bunch in creative arts
506371416661040955403talkers2018-01-05T01:14:49.9150000-06:00I have asked a few folks for a canvas drop cloth for the screen press. I'll just go pick one up. The area in front of it and the vacuum former really isn't a walkway. People can use it as such if they want to save walking a few extra feet, like they do cutting thru woodshop, but then they have to deal with items in the way, like they do when cutting thru woodshop.
507385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-07T21:41:58.7300000-06:00The unisex restroom has no more Windex bottles, only refill - which needs to got into spray bottles. I found one bottle after scrounging half the building. Question: is there a secret stash somewhere or do more bottles need to be purchased (and labeled "Refill. Do not discard.")?
508371416661040955403talkers2018-01-07T21:48:43.3170000-06:00Could we get regular cleaner? Spic n Span (Dollar Tree) or Simple Green or something? It would be great to have.
509109359055532732416clone10182018-01-08T07:15:28.0690000-06:00Its becoming hard to source what we need from just a few locations. I'll work on it! Going to home depot today will stock up
510371416661040955403talkers2018-01-08T08:01:33.3180000-06:00Thank you @LukeStrickland
511385477767179010049stephenie.2018-01-08T11:24:41.3650000-06:00Thank you!
512300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-13T18:46:40.0770000-06:00Hey @LukeStrickland , what time is offsiting tomorrow, and could we still use the truck to move the saur?
513109359055532732416clone10182018-01-13T19:36:34.3920000-06:00Yeah, 1pm is the packing
514109359055532732416clone10182018-01-14T13:37:22.9270000-06:00@merissa eta? Were heading to offsite now
515300078993577607170merissa43082018-01-14T13:54:26.3470000-06:00Will be by offsite storage at 2:07
516109359055532732416clone10182018-01-14T17:35:12.4250000-06:00btw found two of the ryobi spot lightsdumpsterfire (1)
517109359055532732416clone10182018-01-14T17:35:25.1990000-06:00in the space bus
518109359055532732416clone10182018-01-23T13:24:49.9180000-06:00We need to have a committee meeting
519109359055532732416clone10182018-01-23T13:24:51.5590000-06:00I forgot
520109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T16:59:24.1460000-06:00picked up some brackets at home depot for the table
521109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T16:59:28.1760000-06:00they didnt make it back to dms
522109359055532732416clone10182018-01-25T16:59:29.8070000-06:00oops
523109359055532732416clone10182018-01-31T09:01:59.8370000-06:00Project Storage Extension: https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/5094
524109359055532732416clone10182018-01-31T09:02:06.8800000-06:00Logistics Meeting: https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/5095
525109359055532732416clone10182018-01-31T09:02:16.3280000-06:00I'll be sending out the email reminder of the project storage meeting tonight
526371416661040955403talkers2018-01-31T10:54:21.9150000-06:00Thanks @LukeStrickland . That will help many people
527385477767179010049stephenie.2018-02-01T20:11:05.5320000-06:00@LukeStrickland (referring to your question to Brandon on the laser channel) thank you for installing additional air sensors. Where do you think they are needed?
528109359055532732416clone10182018-02-01T23:00:02.2290000-06:00I'm thinking a couple in the workshop and a couple in the common areas inside the building
529385477767179010049stephenie.2018-02-02T11:52:34.9110000-06:00Fired Arts for silica?
530109359055532732416clone10182018-03-13T15:08:52.9160000-05:00Fridges are gone so we have more tables again, yay!👌 (1)
531371416661040955403talkers2018-04-04T17:31:07.0050000-05:00Storage meeting today at 6pm and Saturday at 2pm.
532207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-16T14:32:00.7810000-05:00@LukeStrickland @Draco whom do we need to discuss about expanding into the room behind the VCC committee area for the exam room and lab space?
533109359055532732416clone10182018-04-16T14:32:24.2300000-05:00Expanding temporarily? Permanently ?
534207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-16T14:35:04.3240000-05:00permanently within the context of dms is still at the same location and to be clear not for use by the museum but solely to fufill the requirements that Pearson Vue has for exam centers
535109359055532732416clone10182018-04-16T14:37:30.6280000-05:00So if we do not expand, I doubt you'd be able to justify the conference room being for VCC, since it's a classroom and our purpose is education. Locking it down to specific classes would be not great
536109359055532732416clone10182018-04-16T14:37:48.4160000-05:00However, since we're potentially expanding, I recommend filling out the Committee Expansion Form
537109359055532732416clone10182018-04-16T14:37:58.8440000-05:00That'll get VCC into the hat for the new space planning
538207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-16T14:38:24.0670000-05:00correct and it's contextual of expansion
539109359055532732416clone10182018-04-16T14:38:58.4840000-05:00ok, sure, see: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/expansion-templates-due-today-4-16/34716/3?u=lukestrickland
540109359055532732416clone10182018-04-16T14:39:21.8590000-05:00If you can get us a filled out form today / tomorrow that'd be great, planning is starting very soon👍 (1)
541207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-16T14:40:24.0600000-05:00smashing
542207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-16T14:40:32.8610000-05:00we're on it
543227585388544393219axeonos2018-04-30T17:47:52.9850000-05:00Still waiting on sticker sheets for bins.
544109359055532732416clone10182018-04-30T21:53:07.6110000-05:00Am I ordering them? I dont think i am
545227585388544393219axeonos2018-05-01T00:18:19.6740000-05:00Stan ordered
546227585388544393219axeonos2018-05-01T00:19:56.8910000-05:00Truth be told you should seeing as your logistics chair.
547109359055532732416clone10182018-05-01T08:24:46.1430000-05:00i mean i trust my ~~minions~~, i mean trusted advisors
548227585388544393219axeonos2018-05-01T08:40:06.7680000-05:00I ain't no yellow overall wearing sperm reject....
549207961619538378762denzuko2018-05-02T15:08:38.1590000-05:00Minions should be robotic and make everyone smilehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/441330195639828480/1dbf4bdc78b54e7c945da07ed13b75fa.jpg?ex=67b98606&is=67b83486&hm=2dde26e1fd8e1e74f0d1e15d517cf78230b3e15768695d3f6cf1f399a0fa3136&
550207961619538378762denzuko2018-05-02T15:11:00.1330000-05:00even the nurse department can bring a smile to all 😉https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/441330790354124823/220px-DrSteelNursePoster.jpg?ex=67b98693&is=67b83513&hm=741511e3ca4c603adfb05b6dae2331399d6479cd0dc1cca15e8c5501e4710efb&
551371416661040955403talkers2018-05-03T03:27:49.2410000-05:00👌
552194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-05-10T02:33:35.3910000-05:00Hot water in janitorial closet no longer works, didn't smell gas so I suppose the water heater still works. Don't remember if it's even gas
553306285952303759360davidkessinger97072018-05-10T05:40:21.1220000-05:00electric
554371416661040955403talkers2018-05-13T22:56:58.4920000-05:00Gas is avail, but not in use
555207961619538378762denzuko2018-06-08T09:21:28.7030000-05:00What's the process for a committee to get storage space?
556109359055532732416clone10182018-06-08T09:28:02.4750000-05:00Depends on what it's for
557109359055532732416clone10182018-06-08T09:28:15.6890000-05:00If it's for "immediately useful tools post expansion", just drop it off at #1001
558109359055532732416clone10182018-06-08T09:28:40.6910000-05:00If you need it on-site, that's pretty easy depending on size
559109359055532732416clone10182018-06-08T09:28:48.3180000-05:00offsite #1000 is mostly full
560109359055532732416clone10182018-06-08T11:33:00.6900000-05:00@Alex Rhodes how do i cash in on the warranty these red chairs have?
561302089838222376960alerho2018-06-08T11:33:42.0560000-05:00I'll send you the contact
562302089838222376960alerho2018-06-08T11:34:22.8160000-05:00Also we don't know if anyone over 300lbs sat in them. Just FYI.
563371416661040955403talkers2018-07-31T18:49:42.4470000-05:00What chairs should people over 300lbs use?
564371416661040955403talkers2018-07-31T18:50:06.9900000-05:00Should we label the chairs with a warning?
565207961619538378762denzuko2018-07-31T21:09:38.3100000-05:00I feel like that's a bit pedantic but common sense seems to a scarce surply at times so maybe??
566194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-07-31T21:11:53.2580000-05:00No that's to answer the question they might have about warranty
567194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-07-31T21:12:21.6650000-05:00The answer is "I am not aware of anyone over 300lbs using the chair"🍭 (1)
568334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:01:08.1360000-05:00@Axeonos this is Brandon, I'm here
569227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T18:01:31.5170000-05:00your mic is muted
570334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:01:37.1430000-05:00Would still like to move fire cabinet and other related things this weekend
571371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:02:16.9320000-05:00How do we listen in?
572227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T18:02:30.8050000-05:00go down to voice
573334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:02:40.2450000-05:00Idea is, Clear dock Remove shelving next to dock Move orange ladders and fire cabinet as is to next to dock
574371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:03:09.3920000-05:00I like the fire cabinet where it is
575334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:05:01.4160000-05:00there are a couple shelves across from science labelled logistics, not sure what is on them
576334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:05:53.1010000-05:00orange ladders*
577371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:06:59.9700000-05:00I'm fine with the ladders as they are. They would be harder to access by the docks
578371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:09:13.7000000-05:00I'm hearing most everyone
579371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:10:23.8600000-05:00With the expansion, logistics will be one of the first to expand.
580194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T18:13:30.6480000-05:00The voice channel has push to talk as a requirement
581194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T18:13:45.5410000-05:00FYI
582334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:19:40.1480000-05:00what was last part?
583334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:20:02.8330000-05:00something about a future work day?
584334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:20:39.9280000-05:00I would only be interested in spending time if I could remove shelving next to dock and move fire cabinet to next to dock. I think logistics has enough shelf space already and wouldn't really benefit from more, what materials would logistics be storing?
585334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:21:30.8070000-05:00no
586334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:23:04.6050000-05:00Proposal is to increase project storage by moving committee storage in pallet rack across science to dock shelf?
587371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:32:16.1320000-05:00Someone will still have to put them back. These tools are also used through out the space, not just the tables
588334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:32:29.2570000-05:00white and grey are available I think
589371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:40:57.4740000-05:00Can you post a picture please
590334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:41:32.9440000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/481608824025907220/52b195a93aed625fc98752c9d7ab767734f50c09_1_690x468.png?ex=67b9b7eb&is=67b8666b&hm=7a668ebed26af763f8f6aed14c1ec0784e0f1b6670bd48938c1d99d8a334f4f9&
591371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:41:59.0440000-05:00Take a picture of the mock up for storage Kris is proposing
592371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:42:01.8510000-05:00Please
593371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T18:48:15.9410000-05:00I'm having a hard time hearing
594334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:49:26.0080000-05:00where are tool walls?
595334393967015755776agr00902018-08-21T18:50:20.4270000-05:00someday in future more info will be provided, yeah
596371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:01:47.7550000-05:00New sink
597194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:01:59.9260000-05:00Yeah there's no generic workshop?
598371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:03:54.1690000-05:00One that can fit a screen to wash out
599371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:04:54.5390000-05:00"Kennel seal" is a safe barrier
600371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:05:19.2110000-05:00That is for the wood
601194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:07:56.2390000-05:00does digital media not have a better mic that could be used for this??
602194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:09:28.0580000-05:00ive been working. you just need to borrow a usb mic when you have the meeting next time. you should hear it from this end
603194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:10:30.5010000-05:00right, i can hear kris, carieen is kinda audible, male voice was a mumble
604371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:11:40.8560000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/481616412520218625/CameraZOOM-20180707153157074.jpg?ex=67b9befc&is=67b86d7c&hm=80f9e73ee47b47528f5a146d87bad5ec40e072e2c4fcd4f09a8d5b0a90ecc81e&
605194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:11:48.8760000-05:00oh man
606371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:11:57.6880000-05:00Can we move member displays to another area?
607371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:12:15.0520000-05:00The entire table
608371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:12:43.6520000-05:00He's been doing this for months
609194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:13:02.8980000-05:00right he should let other people use it but doesnt
610371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:13:18.9390000-05:00He let's clients share it
611194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:13:33.0410000-05:00and if someone needs a stool he keeps it "in case"
612194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:14:02.4980000-05:00he doesnt need to set up all of his statues to take up the whole table
613371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:14:20.3910000-05:00You should only be able to reserve the space used for a project
614371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:14:24.2510000-05:00Not an office
615194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:14:36.1880000-05:00I would like to complain about him maintaining 6 storage spaces
616194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:16:12.3980000-05:00these are all "his"https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/481617551915221002/unknown.png?ex=67b9c00c&is=67b86e8c&hm=0f7e81f5e6ef46c6a00a77530a8543659122d0caf826b7a584fe96442180acda&
617194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:16:17.6940000-05:00you cut out kris
618371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:16:21.0660000-05:00Can someone just talk to him?
619371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:17:33.9880000-05:00I cannot hear. Please fill me in after
620227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T19:17:55.2020000-05:00we will fill in
621371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:18:12.0940000-05:00Thank you
622194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:20:15.7450000-05:00we should get more stools for the workshop area, but i missed where the generic workshop will go. is it just the hash marked areas?
623371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:22:21.4590000-05:00https://m.samsclub.com/ip/pnuematic-work-stool-15-5x15-5x25-8-30-3/prod17540491?xid=plp_product_1_3
624371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:22:26.0790000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/481619118563393577/Screenshot_20180821-192212.png?ex=67b9c181&is=67b87001&hm=6cebfa1c26db74e839af1ab896fa6cbe40bc6cf238f55124bfd5d0a5c821e21c&
625371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:22:43.6530000-05:00Sams has a nice line. Same brand as the cabinets
626227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T19:29:39.9140000-05:00the crosshatch area is work table areas.
627371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:30:07.9170000-05:00I can hear again
628194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:30:26.6240000-05:00mic pics up better in the smaller room. makes sense
629371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:31:17.3800000-05:00Some do need back support
630371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:32:13.2440000-05:00Last well
631194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:33:42.6480000-05:00my problem with doing a test means its more time without enough stools
632194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:33:56.9840000-05:00you could just grab a variety and be done with it
633194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:35:10.7530000-05:00which is why the variety works
634194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:36:30.7680000-05:00backless stools have the benefit of being able to be pushed under the tables. (provided logistics is keeping people from storing stuff under the tables)
635194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:37:02.2380000-05:00*well*
636194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:37:05.5080000-05:00its happening
637194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:37:35.7770000-05:00i heard part of that
638194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:37:41.0690000-05:00like 5 or 6 more?
639194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:38:11.6270000-05:00it just feels like the general workshop stools get taken by committees
640194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:38:28.8840000-05:00eventually we will hit a surplus
641371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:38:36.6490000-05:00Vinyl on leg
642194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:38:38.5420000-05:00which isnt bad
643371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:39:01.3410000-05:00But if they wander to other parts of the space, let them stay there.
644371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:39:09.5410000-05:00Just buy more
645194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:39:26.0580000-05:00logistics is an integral committee, they should be able to buy more stools as needed if the other committees take them
646371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:39:27.1380000-05:00Like the classroom fans in the common room and warehouse
647302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:40:22.0040000-05:00Can't join voice but I'm down to move fire cabinet.
648227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T19:40:38.4530000-05:00fire cabnet not moving
649371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:40:39.3890000-05:00Dave has talked about used office supplies stores
650302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:40:58.8640000-05:00Womp womp.
651227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T19:41:21.2880000-05:00alex: sup
652194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:41:22.6670000-05:00we make enough money to not buy everything used
653302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:41:32.3450000-05:00Haha. SUP
654194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:41:52.1370000-05:00especially if the other committees are going to take logistics stuff
655194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:42:30.2570000-05:00logistics is generic DMS assets, let them have it
656371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:42:36.2670000-05:00We do need more calipers
657371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:42:45.3700000-05:00Please get more fans
658371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:42:55.4420000-05:00The tower ones work well
659302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:43:05.8110000-05:00Pencils.
660371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:43:15.5190000-05:00Extension cords
661194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:43:20.3220000-05:00tool replenishment on the tool wall
662194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:44:09.2990000-05:00did yall cover project storage in the beginning?
663227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-21T19:44:21.6160000-05:00yes
664194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:44:32.0350000-05:00how about excessive extensions
665371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:44:34.9620000-05:00Golf pencils are not cheaper than the amazon basics regular pencils
666371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:46:00.2010000-05:00Johnnie says school supplies are on sale 😀
667194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:46:43.3940000-05:00man am i going to have to do a discord class?
668371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:46:54.1260000-05:00Blue tape, Scotch tape
669194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:47:11.0180000-05:00lol
670371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:47:32.3390000-05:00All the tapes
671371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:47:47.3380000-05:00Low on cassette tapes
672302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:47:48.4270000-05:00Agree. All the tapes.
673302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:47:54.3310000-05:00Well not those.
674194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:48:01.8270000-05:00more propaganda signs about cleaning
675194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:48:12.1600000-05:00that they wont read
676371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:48:34.4770000-05:00We can do signs on the floor
677473855311438938115discophonous2018-08-21T19:48:59.0520000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/481625799401930753/FB_IMG_1530185170685.jpg?ex=67b9c7ba&is=67b8763a&hm=4cf37b0e7f97ea6edecc0bb42558a0ac7ca70158b30d029727418682531ad2e7&
678302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:49:12.9110000-05:00@Axeonos #SUP
679194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:49:26.5550000-05:00@Narkane wrong chat
680371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:50:03.5350000-05:00Evaluate cost of a dumpster like that at 102 vs what we have
681194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:50:17.1830000-05:00:notsure:
682194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:50:22.4180000-05:00its on a huge wall
683371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:52:42.6840000-05:00Tape measures, Allen wrenches, files, center punches
684371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:53:21.2110000-05:00I would not mine taking on keeping the tools stocked in the warehouse
685194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:53:46.5690000-05:00wat
686371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:53:48.7510000-05:00Uhhh...
687371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:53:59.5810000-05:00I use them throughout the space
688194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:54:02.9090000-05:00right
689194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:54:13.9560000-05:00but the tools need to be able to travel
690371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:54:21.7130000-05:00Lol
691194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:54:38.2560000-05:00gorman gets to prevent the tools from being tied down
692371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:55:02.8680000-05:00Lol
693371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:55:11.9990000-05:00I can do that
694194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:55:21.0840000-05:00i have bolt cutters
695371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:55:54.4370000-05:00Pearce and I will find the tool tie downs
696194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:55:55.7700000-05:00good scrub soap like the orange stuff
697194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:56:11.8400000-05:00or the green bucket style we had
698371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:56:21.8450000-05:00How do we not have bolt cutters? I have one in the car too
699302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:56:22.3630000-05:00T handle Allen wrenches.
700302089838222376960alerho2018-08-21T19:56:35.2350000-05:00Laser locks theirs up now.
701194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T19:56:35.7690000-05:00right but we need the other soap too and to keep it stocked
702371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:57:45.9410000-05:00Will do
703371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:58:02.1970000-05:00Hilti tools for all
704371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:58:16.3140000-05:00Drills for all the classroom tables
705371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:58:59.5330000-05:00Jacob's enjoyed listening to the call
706371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T19:59:50.9690000-05:00Oh, logistics needs to plan for an election again
707194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-21T20:03:03.5400000-05:00im out, gotta dnd.
708371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T20:03:58.0570000-05:00Me
709371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T20:04:13.3600000-05:00Cheers
710371416661040955403talkers2018-08-21T21:12:06.3620000-05:00Did we discuss emergency lighting?
711349657021567729664shunsui892018-08-21T21:39:34.6040000-05:00I don't think so but I wasn't able to stay the whole time
712371416661040955403talkers2018-08-22T22:11:31.1300000-05:00At least two e lights came in today. Saw @StanSimmons unboxing them
713194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-08-22T23:55:17.0510000-05:00i thought i recognized those stools! thye are in rainbow sixhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/482050171509932043/unknown.png?ex=67b958b4&is=67b80734&hm=6873cea95e6eb2a530c2bb6bbe6f7c08f9c438a1f01d77e82af31e14868bf00b&
714227585388544393219axeonos2018-08-23T03:17:04.9950000-05:00Might need to specify, no video game stools
715349657021567729664shunsui892018-08-23T03:22:59.2650000-05:00Does the space have any florescent bulbs? I'd like to get the ca hall fixed and anywhere else. Is there anything I can do to take care of the random pallet of bad bulbs as well?
716334393967015755776agr00902018-09-06T17:07:53.8910000-05:00Any details / plans available on what needs to be done during work day? I'm interested in the work table item
717227585388544393219axeonos2018-09-06T17:07:54.0960000-05:00still trying to get my voice control working
718194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-09-06T17:11:43.1390000-05:00Push to talk?
719227585388544393219axeonos2018-09-06T17:12:20.1630000-05:00are you able to hear me
720334393967015755776agr00902018-09-06T17:12:57.3020000-05:00no, your icon isn't turning green indicating that you are sending any sound
721334393967015755776agr00902018-09-06T17:13:18.0890000-05:00now its green but I dont hear anything
722227585388544393219axeonos2018-09-06T17:14:20.5980000-05:00brandon whats your number we are going to confrence call you
723334393967015755776agr00902018-09-06T17:15:21.8270000-05:00no thanks
724227585388544393219axeonos2018-09-07T07:05:26.8100000-05:00Ppl have votes. Axeonos is serving another 6 months. We also agreed to paint shapes on the tools. Also we got 3 new flat dollies donated. They should be sprayed with LOGISTICS DO NOT STEAL on Saturday. Saturday is the logistics purge. Please come help beautify our space
725109359055532732416clone10182018-09-07T09:04:14.8230000-05:00> Paint shapes on the tools
726109359055532732416clone10182018-09-07T09:04:30.0860000-05:00What does that mean?
727207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-07T10:07:08.8360000-05:00shapes on tools? could the rare and expensive one have little unicorns?
728194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-09-07T11:54:24.1660000-05:00Instead of just using colors?
729227585388544393219axeonos2018-10-16T00:23:36.8430000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/501626245679808513/20181015_221823.jpg?ex=67b95f58&is=67b80dd8&hm=3b4f53816323058001500782e7b6a4c8e2cabd93a340f9269c3574846b6d598d&
730371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:01:45.5110000-05:00Just label all the things
731371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:01:58.2510000-05:00When is the next logistics meeting?
732371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:02:26.7810000-05:00We are out of workspace in the workshop.
733456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:02:37.5040000-05:00Figure out why my tub keeps getting jacked!!
734371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:03:18.8250000-05:00@blameitontexas. What is going on?
735456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:05:34.4010000-05:00My original tub in the lounge area disappeared. I commandeered an empty one and put my name on it.... sent a ton of emails, with no luck. Annnd week when I checked someone else had taken mine again :(:(
736371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:06:20.6570000-05:00🤔 😢
737371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:07:08.2330000-05:00Well, the tubs are permanent. Yours can be replaced. I pray you did not lose anything of value inside.
738456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:07:59.6480000-05:00Upside of epilepsy! I have absolutely no idea what I had in them lol
739456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:08:04.3590000-05:00😉
740371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:08:38.7850000-05:00Silly, lol
741456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:08:58.5970000-05:00Permanent seems to be up for interpretation tho. Do I need to chain one to a wall or something?
742456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:09:11.3350000-05:00(Totally okay w that)
743371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:09:52.4580000-05:00No It's an odd thing. Not sure what's happened, but we will certainly replace the tub and label
744456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:10:19.6130000-05:00Sounds good
745456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:10:32.4780000-05:00Thx!
746194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-10-16T01:11:01.1540000-05:00yeah it sounds like someone was checking the tubs and pulled yours for not being on the list or something
747194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-10-16T01:11:13.0690000-05:00the contents may be in one of the storage rooms
748456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:11:52.6530000-05:00Not worry about that as much as why I have lost two tubs now even tho I bought one when I signed up forever ago 😦
749371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:15:52.1480000-05:00We will figure it out. It's been a long time since an audit was done, so I'm not sure that was it
750456653354794483715blameitontexas2018-10-16T01:16:12.8750000-05:00Muh heroes ❤
751371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:16:36.5960000-05:00But I've not heard of any other reports of theft on tub contents. We will make it right
752371416661040955403talkers2018-10-16T01:18:26.8940000-05:00As for lack of workspace, a couple of regular users could condense their space significantly and still benefit from the workshop. I would like to discuss the parameters on what is fair for all in our shared sandbox.
753194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-10-16T01:18:43.5470000-05:00yeah for real
754194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-10-16T01:19:14.3780000-05:00and the consistent extensions on people monopolizing storage spaces
755227585388544393219axeonos2018-10-16T02:11:55.9160000-05:00I'll be down there Wednesday to go through and make labels for tubs. If you give me your name we can check. It may have been pulled last time for not having payment or laps in membership payment. No worries we will look into it.👍 (1)
756561699316394229797landras20492019-03-31T10:11:31.0010000-05:00Hey will anybody from logistics be around the space today? Id like to meet and discuss some stuff I have that I'd like to donate to the space. I'm taking the cad and Etsy class, so I'll be busy from 12-7pm. I'm headed there now though so I will be around from 11am till noon, and will probably be around for a few hours after 7pm. Lmk thanks.
757115183069555589125aceat642019-03-31T10:43:55.3120000-05:00@Axeonos ^
758227585388544393219axeonos2019-03-31T12:22:01.1450000-05:00I'm currently away for the weekend for stuff.... will be back and functional next weekend
759561699316394229797landras20492019-03-31T14:02:09.8340000-05:00@Axeonos copy that. Lmk if you're ever in during the week.. I'll be here every evening.
760300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-03-31T16:44:26.6310000-05:00I think Kris Anderson is here, in woodshop
761194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-03-31T17:39:05.1830000-05:00Buuuuuut donations gotta get authorization from the chair
762227585388544393219axeonos2019-04-02T20:08:27.2460000-05:00@LAndras i wont be at the space till friday after 8pm (this weekend dang near killed me and going back to work put the nail in the coffin. sorry man. but im eager to see what you got man
763334393967015755776agr00902019-04-16T13:43:29.2000000-05:00Fyi I will run for logistics chair at the next meeting, see here https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/im-running-for-logistics-chair-again-may-5th/54402💯 (2),🏆 (1),dms (1)
764385477767179010049stephenie.2019-04-16T14:53:33.9380000-05:00myNick really enjoyed off-siting during @LukeStrickland's tenure. He has not participated once since then.
765385477767179010049stephenie.2019-04-16T14:54:07.9040000-05:00He liked the camaraderie.
766385477767179010049stephenie.2019-04-16T15:03:29.7850000-05:00@AGr if you can bring back that sense of Band of Brothers (and Sisters) and the goals become a team's goals, rather than one person's, you can set a foundation for better storage/space management that will outlast your tenure.
767194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-16T15:12:18.4630000-05:00It was just me Brandon and Steve-o doing the work on sunday
768194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-16T15:12:28.0350000-05:00All around it was a pretty good experience
769194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-16T15:12:47.0610000-05:00Steve-o just dropped what he came in for and started helping
770334393967015755776agr00902019-04-16T15:16:42.6080000-05:00I would like to do that, although my past experience is that building a team is not one of my strong suits
771194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-16T15:18:16.8620000-05:00You need a hype man
772300078993577607170merissa43082019-04-16T15:24:50.9750000-05:00I can take up my role as cheerleader/spokesperson/Talk reminder poster of work days if needed 😁
773385477767179010049stephenie.2019-04-16T15:27:00.3570000-05:00@AGr...it is sooo important to know your strong suits. Pick a Vice Chair who can build a team.
774194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-16T15:27:07.8060000-05:00My current understanding is that my colorful vocabulary choices make me unsuitable to be a hype man
775194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-16T15:27:36.4320000-05:00But I'm willing to help out in logistics
776227585388544393219axeonos2019-04-16T15:50:15.1520000-05:00Remember the 5th of may 2pm come vote and get extension if need be. I am stepping down.
777300078993577607170merissa43082019-04-16T16:20:03.0740000-05:00@Axeonos are there any other candidates in the mix?
778227585388544393219axeonos2019-04-16T16:20:55.8370000-05:00unknown. all i know is it wont be me lol
779300078993577607170merissa43082019-04-16T16:21:38.3260000-05:00Ok thanks, just wasn't sure if anyone had expressed interest at recent meetings
780334393967015755776agr00902019-04-16T17:50:02.0820000-05:00Do we have 5 storage units at cubesmart? Cubesmart 5092 - unit 1104 Cubesmart 5092 - unit 1000 Cubesmart 5092 - unit 0015 Cubesmart 5092 - unit 1001 Cubesmart 5092 - unit 0020
781300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-04-17T00:18:26.6580000-05:00Yes
782194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-20T21:21:51.2700000-05:00We should get theses dockit systems for the drill bits and screw bits instead if throwing the cases in the drawerhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/569347035711406090/JPEG_20190420_212059.jpg?ex=67b934bf&is=67b7e33f&hm=ca04fa2942c3dc04e5c29d7e0ec23033397f9346ec3c3f9bdd0cfa5d2698ca35&
783227585388544393219axeonos2019-04-20T23:31:43.1630000-05:00you assume people will put things back
784194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-04-20T23:35:07.8750000-05:00It helps if they have a nice spot for them to go
785194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:49:50.9610000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/ill-throw-my-hat-in-the-ring-also-i-fixed-the-back-door/55099
786194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:50:12.3150000-05:00here. i posted something thats probably a bad decision
787488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:51:53.8680000-05:00grats!
788488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:52:33.8790000-05:00also i believe there was a solution being worked on for the door that fixed the issue with the handle. They keep breaking due to people hanging on them as they climb up. I think a pushbar was being ordered or is on order.
789194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:52:58.0540000-05:00sure, but leaving it totally unlocked was not the solution
790488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:53:05.7980000-05:00I'm not throwing stones
791488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:53:17.0830000-05:00Sorry if it came acrross that way
792194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:53:30.1780000-05:00i am though :face:
793488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:53:33.6710000-05:00I agree it shouldn't remain open
794488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:53:34.6020000-05:00lol
795488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:53:36.9610000-05:00toss away
796194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:53:44.8380000-05:00i did hear a handle was ordered
797194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:53:49.7070000-05:00but its been months
798194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:54:15.6990000-05:00id be glad to help install a pushbar. they make moving printers way easier for me
799488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:54:26.4460000-05:00aye
800488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T21:54:52.9670000-05:00i think an electrified pushbar would be great bahahaha
801194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:55:36.7750000-05:00like SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKER?
802194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T21:55:50.5410000-05:00because youll give someone a heart attack
803488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T22:15:34.8380000-05:00no
804488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T22:15:41.9700000-05:00lol although thats laughworthy
805488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T22:15:49.4240000-05:00i'm talking electrified latch
806488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T22:16:12.3560000-05:00as in the latch has a solenoid that opens it when badge reader is active
807194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T22:16:17.1650000-05:00tag in and it opens itself
808194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T22:16:19.4230000-05:00yeah
809194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-02T22:16:45.8190000-05:00that would probably save the walls of the door
810488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-02T22:34:02.1410000-05:00yep
811540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:10:35.6450000-05:004 candidates for logistics chair? Y'all are gonna make me sad I'm missing the meeting.
812194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T00:11:52.1620000-05:00?
813194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T00:11:58.0210000-05:00whos the 4th
814540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:16:32.5860000-05:00iirc we've got Brandon, Freddy, You, and Kris
815194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T00:16:50.3140000-05:00freddy is infra
816540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:16:50.3850000-05:00oops
817540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:16:52.6860000-05:00yup
818540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:16:56.9730000-05:00my b
819194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T00:17:07.8860000-05:00didnt know about kris until today on talk
820540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:17:47.5730000-05:00Yeah. I heard some talk that she was going for the full 'proxy bomb', but didn't realize it was her that was running
821194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T00:18:03.6270000-05:00classy
822540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:18:34.6450000-05:00Allen pointed out it'll be up to the new board to appoint the chair, and he's really pushing his 'board runs the election' approach
823540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-03T00:19:14.1280000-05:00to his credit, this is a pretty good test case for it
824334393967015755776agr00902019-05-03T00:21:10.5640000-05:00thats always been the case, the question is if board wants to do anything to discourage committee proxy wars going forward to decrease drama, when committee votes were never formal things anyway
825334393967015755776agr00902019-05-03T00:22:53.8110000-05:00I will be impressed if Kris can beat the last auto committee proxy count, was something like 200 votes total
826545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:31:09.4110000-05:00When is the logistics meeting? Im too lazy to go back to talk
827300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T09:31:48.6060000-05:00Sunday 5/5 at 2pm😊 (1)
828545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:34:22.1250000-05:00It does look a little fishy now that the board voted down Adair’s no proxy for science when a board member is now using the proxy wars to advantage. This is tiring. Earn your vote.
829545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:37:11.1110000-05:00My hope is that all the non proxy chairs can get together and decide to put an end to it and by majority bring it to the new board to vote.
830300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T09:37:11.4250000-05:00Current board members and their friends were the biggest abusers of proxy bombs in the last round of elections. And my guess is they will continue to abuse and exploit the voting process as long as they can get away with it.
831545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:37:34.6400000-05:00We were told we needed more chairs on board.
832300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T09:38:33.4520000-05:00I don't understand that logic when many of the chairs got their seat through the proxy issue 🤔
833545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:39:24.7400000-05:00We will see with this election
834300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T09:40:00.8550000-05:00True
835300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T09:43:47.7190000-05:00Anyone want to share thoughts on what logistics is doing right and what needs improvement?
836545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:49:51.3410000-05:00I personally can’t stand when projects take up giant spaces for weeks. The flight simulator in the walkway was an annoyance. Seeing tables bogged down for days with the same projects was annoying. There was no where to get anything done. I’ve heard we have twenty new work tables in the expansion. What I want to see is space available for people working on projects but not long term storage on work surfaces.
837545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T09:51:16.5520000-05:00And I do like the thought of free space for teachers who teach more than three classes a month. I have to lug a ton of stuff up there for my classes and last month I was injured and had t have my husband bring me and my stuff to all my classes.
838547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-03T10:19:35.7470000-05:00Takes someone that will say no and that will enforce rules to run Logistics
839547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-03T10:20:36.5270000-05:00you need to *move things along* whether that means not extending slow/stalled projects, hauling expired projects offsite, or dumpstering projects offsite that have outstayed their welcome
840547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-03T10:21:47.8690000-05:00DMS needs to make project storage cost *something*. Money won't be popular and has administrative overheads. But the cost needs to be more than just grabbing a spot and hanging on to it forever.
841547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-03T10:22:44.4200000-05:00But hey what do I know, I only ran Logistics for 18 months
842385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:24:18.5330000-05:00Re: "grabbing a spot and hanging on to it forever". I've been a member for 4 years and have wondered why some spots seem to be held in perpetuity. How does that happen?
843547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-03T10:25:28.9110000-05:00@stephenie last ~2 years enforcement has been spotty
844547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-03T10:27:10.0780000-05:00and a lot of ejected materials ... *miraculously* ... boomerang
845385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:29:48.1680000-05:00I'd like to see the next Board notice spotty enforcement of rules in any committee, summon the Chair to the Board meeting for questions. Then if they decide the Chair is not fulfilling their duties, rescind their appointment and call for new chair election👍 (1)
846488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:30:31.9860000-05:00How about we provide an education for chairs rather than get rid of them
847385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:30:55.1910000-05:00^^ That too
848488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:30:59.6790000-05:00The thing the vast majority fails to grasp is volunteer orgs dont attract actual leaders
849385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:31:09.4720000-05:00Right on Freddy
850488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:31:11.0030000-05:00They have to be mentored into the role
851385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:31:17.2910000-05:00They grow leaders
852488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:31:57.5880000-05:00They can grow leaders, albeit that is only the case about half the time. It takes an equal commitment on both parts
853300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T10:32:35.3530000-05:00A chair should not have to be educated on the rules of their own committee
854488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:33:23.9590000-05:00I'm not talking about reading the damn rules
855488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:33:42.3450000-05:00I'm talking about the actual herding of the cats
856385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:33:47.4740000-05:00It's one thing to know the rules, it's another thing to have the moxie to enforce them.
857385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-03T10:33:54.3030000-05:00And influence people
858194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T10:34:10.7100000-05:00I'm running because i was frustrated with the things I heard from Kris while doing off siting
859488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:34:13.2650000-05:00The DMS demographic is conflict averse for the most part
860194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T10:34:36.8650000-05:00She said she was giving extensions because she didn't want to have to load stuff up and off site it
861488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:34:47.0470000-05:00That's bs pearce
862194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T10:34:57.6170000-05:00Absolutely
863488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:34:57.6840000-05:00Complete laziness
864194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T10:35:12.5440000-05:00And that's what I want to stop
865488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:35:37.2110000-05:00I'm with you
866488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:35:54.8000000-05:00I want it to stop as well.
867194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T10:36:22.3560000-05:00But it looks like proxy bomb will be the current answer. And I'm not willing to abuse that
868488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:37:35.0390000-05:00Jm not for the proxy bomb
869488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:37:37.3520000-05:00Im
870488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:37:57.5290000-05:00I'm not running that campaign personally and I dont support it for anyone else👍 (1)
871115183069555589125aceat642019-05-03T10:38:48.5150000-05:00that's easy for you @yashsedai, you're running unopposed right? 🤣
872488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:38:50.7400000-05:00If someone brings a proxy in support of someone great, but actively collecting them no sir
873488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:39:09.0330000-05:00Regardless
874488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:40:19.4990000-05:00Haha
875488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-03T10:40:28.4100000-05:00Just saw your comment @aceat64
876194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T11:10:59.4830000-05:00It'll be up to the board to approve proxy bombs👍 (2)
877300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T15:28:31.1380000-05:00Yet another thread to talk about the candidates. Just two identified here... https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/logistics-chair-volunteers/55141
878194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T15:58:58.6580000-05:00I guess carieen is trying to shame me for not wanting paid storage
879545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:06:12.0860000-05:00Meh, cairenn also shamed ca when we *gasp* wanted rules put in place for discipline.
880115183069555589125aceat642019-05-03T16:06:57.8190000-05:00if people weren't getting drunk, jumping on tables and defacing stuff CA might not have needed those rules
881194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:07:17.7690000-05:00Fees on storage will only make the people who can't afford it have problems
882545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:08:12.2590000-05:00All of Makerspace needs disciplinary rules and they really ought to be standard
883545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:08:34.5440000-05:00Sorry Pearce, i hijacked
884194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:08:38.2080000-05:00Kind of hard to implement though
885194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:08:46.2770000-05:00What's the punishment
886545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:09:45.4260000-05:00You make a mess once we talk to you- you habitually make messes you catch a ban. You tell us you broke something we let you go, you don’t tell us you catch a ban. Assuming we catch it. But what’s so hard about that?
887545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:10:26.7730000-05:00You knowingly deface something- ban. You use equipment that’s training only and don’t have training- ban.
888194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:10:35.9070000-05:00All you have is suspensions as punishment
889194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:10:59.1680000-05:00So for most of the people it won't really change much
890194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:11:08.0130000-05:00The people causing issues*
891194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:11:35.4460000-05:00They come in, break stuff, get their benefit, and leave you with the mess
892545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:11:58.9920000-05:00If you are banned from an area like ca and cant use any of their tools for 30 days it can affect you. If it happens again it goes before board for permanent ban
893194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:12:13.6730000-05:00Like the guy who was confronted at the laser recently. He just quit on the spot
894545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:12:23.2530000-05:00F that guy.
895194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:12:48.0480000-05:00And not to mention not actually being able to enforce the small "room/committee" bans all the time
896545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:12:48.9860000-05:00Good, we got what we wanted. Not having that person habitually breaking the rules
897194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:13:04.8750000-05:00Do you really think Kris stayed out of CA?
898545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:13:11.1300000-05:00Ca is unique in that we have a lot of teachers and sig leaders in that room all the time
899545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:13:25.1620000-05:00No, I know she got other people to bring her stuff.
900194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:13:43.8000000-05:00Right. So the suspensions really don't hold water
901545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:14:07.3850000-05:00I saw it twice. I brought that up to Shay and we decided Kris was a lost cause with that ban and needed to amend it to no use of that committees tools period.
902545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:14:12.3820000-05:00Shay
903194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:14:19.3850000-05:00I'm a pessimist. But I love being proved wrong -don't let me talk you down
904545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:15:50.5760000-05:00Just because it isn’t always enforceable doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be on the books for when we can💯 (1)
905194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:17:14.3510000-05:00I just don't like that it's our only option. But I've never come up with an alternative
906545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:21:01.3050000-05:00I want everyone to get along with an abundance of space - it’s not going to happen as we continue to grow. I get that each committee has their own tools and rules to follow. But I think a baseline of common knowledge behavior. Be an adult- clean up after yourself and if you break it tell us
907545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:21:30.5070000-05:00Again, sorry for the tangent in this thread.
908300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:22:43.3830000-05:00That's what "be excellent" is supposed to mean, but some folks have made it their agenda to make that part of the ethos useless
909545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:22:57.9740000-05:00Be excellent is too vague.
910300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:23:19.6780000-05:00But it kind of has to be to apply to the space as a whole
911194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:23:32.4060000-05:00Along with "don't make us make a rule" and "we don't need a rule if it's already ilegal"
912194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:23:43.6020000-05:00Is it though?
913194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:24:33.9530000-05:00If someone says "hey you're being disruptive" should your response be "fuck off I pay for the space too" or "my bad I'll try to mitigate"
914194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:24:51.9580000-05:00That's all be excellent is asking for
915545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:25:58.9330000-05:00Why can’t we all adopt similar baseline rules. Clean up, tell us you broke it, and don’t steal. Those are baseline rules we all find as a problem. Let machine shop add that you can’t operate while drinking. Thats an addendum. If we don’t have teeth people will continue to be aholes and argue about what is and isn’t excellent
916194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:26:23.1970000-05:00I won't lie
917194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-03T16:26:32.2210000-05:00I thought those were our baseline rules
918545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:27:34.3830000-05:00But we don’t have it written down and it’s up to the chair to enforce. If it’s in the holy bible and something we put in a newbie manual like PR is pushing for, maybe it’ll be enforceable.
919300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:27:49.5940000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Rules_and_Policies#Code_of_Conduct
920300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:28:01.1020000-05:00Check this out, especially #4
921300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:28:54.6840000-05:00I think everything you mentioned is addressed, but wouldn't be a bad idea to add to it if more is needed
922545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:29:07.5240000-05:00There is nothing about consequences which is why most people shrug it off and Art handles things one way while Pearce May do it another.
923300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:29:44.2540000-05:00Ah ok, I see what you mean
924545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:29:47.4390000-05:00I’m being annoying, I’m sorry.
925300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:30:11.3420000-05:00No not at all!
926300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:30:47.7420000-05:00My job is making people follow rules, so I weirdly enjoy this kind of thing 😆
927300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:33:32.5200000-05:00Hmm, well across the board enforcement handling consistency is definitely going to be tough thing to achieve, but it's something we should strive for
928300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-03T16:33:52.6030000-05:00Is this an item the chairs will talk about at their round table?
929545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:37:57.9110000-05:00I plan to bring it up👍 (1)
930545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-03T16:38:58.8060000-05:00If it gets shot down so be it, ca will still go forward with it if it is voted through in the next meeting.
931262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-03T19:16:13.1380000-05:00How about a cleaning fee?
932262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-03T19:16:45.3250000-05:00That goes to the committee of choice of the person that cleans the mess .. approved by an officer
933262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-03T19:20:16.8570000-05:00Charged to the person that made the mess
934388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-03T21:17:10.4270000-05:00Cleaning? How about this
935388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-03T21:17:19.7710000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/574056935989706762/FB_IMG_15569361435409734.jpg?ex=67b933af&is=67b7e22f&hm=0bc7721b1bc7ec7db9303dd708e8aaff5554b89a4274db5cc551a210877bf728&
936545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-05T15:26:41.9900000-05:00What was the vote?
937300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-05T15:33:22.5390000-05:00Pearce won the in person vote, Kris brought a stack of proxies to take the win
938300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-05T15:34:23.1130000-05:00We've got a group now cleaning general workshop area... Kris, Pearce, Jim, Alex, Mell, and myself
939300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-05T18:51:04.1340000-05:00We got things cleared out from the exchange shelf and under the work tables, tool wall straightened up, and violating project storage spots marked with a 7 day notice
940300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-05T18:52:18.5100000-05:00Kris said she will be posting and contacting folks about their final notice, I didn't get a count of how many
941300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-05T18:53:50.0130000-05:00STORAGE USERS please be aware that if you did not get an extension, your spot needs to be cleared or it will be offsited next Sunday 5/12
942547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-06T07:48:38.4350000-05:00the problem with DMS, makerspaces in particular, and the cultures of nerd-esque organizations in general is they love informality to an almost unhealthy degree. Informality is great at a small scale where implicit norms can be readily enforced and *everyone knows each other*. Nerds will build out structures and rules at the slightest provocation and then pretty much **never follow them** because ... *informality*.
943547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-06T07:49:24.4340000-05:00So at one point "be excellent to one another" was the perfect one-liner code of conduct since the org was tight-knit
944115183069555589125aceat642019-05-06T13:43:32.2820000-05:00has anyone talked to PureTax to find out if the rental of storage space counts as UBI or not?
945300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-06T14:56:36.8320000-05:00We do not have business plans for any of these new ideas. Gallery, Store, Paid Storage, take your pick.
946547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-07T08:45:16.1300000-05:00but we have a *storytelling* tradition behind all of these - that counts for *something*, right?
947316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-07T11:27:40.5290000-05:00@aceat64 according to the meeting discussion, PureTax is the one making the accounting system for it.... so they'd have to at least be aware of it. Regarding a specific UBI conversation I can not say.
948115183069555589125aceat642019-05-07T11:28:14.4000000-05:00do we know if there's an added cost? I can't imagine adding more work on PureTax will be free
949316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-07T11:29:21.7730000-05:00they're making a framework, not administering it IIRC
950316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-07T11:29:29.7420000-05:00but again, I'm not a first party to that discussion with them
951316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-07T11:29:45.7590000-05:00and the counsel is making a storage agreement
952194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-12T02:47:39.4950000-05:00i will be with my mother and grandmother tomorrow but should be able to get to the logistics meeting and off siting tomorrow around 1p. i know a few others plan to show up as well but might be late
953300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T08:28:58.1570000-05:00Yeah noon might be harder.... Will try for one or both of us making it
954300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T08:30:06.1790000-05:00Guess I just looked past it on the calendar and went searching around 2-3pm
955300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-05-12T08:50:55.8710000-05:00Trying to juggle mother's day plans with multiple moms. But we're aiming for around noon.
956194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-12T12:04:12.7060000-05:00Grandma's house for mother's day just turned into me doing tech support
957300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T12:16:30.4710000-05:00Just on our way up now, will be there in about 25 mins
958300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-05-12T12:17:51.7350000-05:00Same. In the car on the way. Should be there in about 30 min.
959300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T12:18:50.0200000-05:00@kriskat30 do you know if we have access to a truck for offsiting?
960304037876054753285kriskat3096852019-05-12T12:46:10.2180000-05:00I had one and he got called into work last minute. I’m working on getting a replacement
961194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-12T12:47:40.8430000-05:00Might get boxes from home Depot or something. Would make it better for transportation and storage
962194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-12T13:22:00.2430000-05:00Headed to space
963300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T13:23:41.3750000-05:00Sounds good, thanks Pearce! Just got some boxes to pack up items
964300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T15:17:26.6810000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577227856174907396/20190512_150830.jpg?ex=67b98815&is=67b83695&hm=0e482261a867cb3591de9256dbce4d7977547f441af6c1f5790ee7fb936d532f&
965300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T15:17:31.0100000-05:00Storage violators items staged for offsiting
966194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-12T15:31:31.2840000-05:00Will be moved tomorrow night
967300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-05-12T17:37:29.6370000-05:00What time is offsiting Monday night? Doubt I'll be able to make it but can try.
968545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-12T18:48:28.8050000-05:00Dang, that’s a lot of stuff- do people just abandon their shit?
969300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-12T19:01:08.9250000-05:00Pretty much... notice how much of it is woodshop. 😦
970115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T19:03:22.5970000-05:00I don't get it, do people just start projects and then after like one day just give up on it
971300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T19:14:24.6220000-05:00And that doesn't even include vertical storage... A lot of notice tags over there too, but we kind of gave up on that area till a truck is available
972115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T19:16:36.6970000-05:00It's such a waste, we should have people sign a contract when using storage that signs away their ownership rights to the materials if they become abandoned/don't follow the rules.
973115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T19:16:54.1750000-05:00Then we'd have good legal standing to make use of it.dms (1)
974300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-12T19:17:30.0100000-05:00I think something like that is finally in the works.
975115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T19:17:36.0520000-05:00Would likely need the rules in the contract to be solid
976300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-12T19:18:02.7640000-05:00It will have to be run past Griggs for sure
977300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T19:18:10.5250000-05:00As long as it is applied consistently I'm for it
978302089838222376960alerho2019-05-12T20:09:13.5020000-05:00Make it a public auction please.
979115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T20:12:11.2710000-05:00I wonder if theres a service we can just hand all the stuff off to for auction, for a cut of the proceeds
980115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T20:12:27.0670000-05:00Likely would be UBI either way
981115183069555589125aceat642019-05-12T20:13:11.9120000-05:00Primally I was thinking use the materials for makerspace stuff, we can't just hand it to members for inurement reasons
982300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-12T20:43:12.0050000-05:00what's up with the battery charger? Been wanting one of those...
983300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T20:52:34.8050000-05:00Good eye. There were two of those on a shelf with like an inch of dust and no storage ticket, so they're staged to go off-site. If not claimed they should be dumpstered next month.
984300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-12T20:54:35.5380000-05:00I'd feel so guilty...wheeling my chargers to the car... Those things are getting harder & harder to come by, and are so superior to today's computer-controlled pains in the butt (not that they don't have their upsides, the computer controlled ones, but...)
985300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-12T20:55:03.1270000-05:00(I truly would feel guilty. But what the hell are people thinking!?!)😉 (1)
986547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-12T20:57:06.3810000-05:00my theory is that no small percentage of these materials are *scavenged* thus the value to the member is less than if they were procured in a more straightforward manner
987300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-12T20:57:48.1430000-05:00Yeah, with current policy once it hits the dumpster it's free to be claimed but really shouldn't come back into DMS. It's painful to just throw stuff away, but it's the safest way not to get into a dispute over ownership. Hopefully its owner claims it and it finds its way home💯 (1)
988194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T18:20:30.7120000-05:00Haven't heard anything about a truck. So I'm bringing the cruelbus up to off site yesterday's stuffdms (2)
989194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T18:33:14.3120000-05:00Foiled again! It's out of registration
990194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T18:35:15.0920000-05:00Seeing if I can find an inspection place
991300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-13T18:38:07.7760000-05:00Come on Pearce, it's not like the cruel bus draws attention or anything 😉
992194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T18:48:58.9210000-05:00On way anyways. Will get inspection tomorrow
993194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T19:49:31.4530000-05:00Bus is here for off siting. All hands on deck
994194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T20:22:38.3530000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577667054048509952/JPEG_20190513_202221.jpg?ex=67b926de&is=67b7d55e&hm=6556678a293b6748ef0ee59030253ede0050ab204acee8d8b96660f442abe58b&
995371416661040955403talkers2019-05-13T20:28:44.2610000-05:00@pearce is doing so much work. Thank you
996194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T20:28:52.0650000-05:00Off to storage
997300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-13T20:31:05.2980000-05:00Thank you Pearce! Sorry we're not there to help
998194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T20:41:52.3260000-05:00Storage unit 1001 doesn't have a lock on it at all
999194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T20:42:04.3050000-05:00Good luck glass works stuff
1000262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-13T20:45:15.8400000-05:00Can we buy a lock?
1001194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T20:46:01.2400000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577672938136928276/JPEG_20190513_204544.jpg?ex=67b92c59&is=67b7dad9&hm=b74f8db11824b14153e837b2da822adc0d3189eeee74f754441b510c1803dc66&
1002194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T20:46:03.6700000-05:00Current 1015
1003300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-13T20:58:20.1150000-05:00Oh no. @kriskat30 do you know what's up with the missing lock?
1004304037876054753285kriskat3096852019-05-13T21:15:48.0860000-05:00What’s missing ??
1005529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-13T21:17:10.4250000-05:00A few years back, someone broke into the quilt guild storage locker. Cut off two padlocks. But since the stuff inside was not the stuff of storage unit war dreams, nothing was taken. Just no lock. The site manager noticed and called us after putting a lock on. Could be a similar situation here.
1006194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T21:17:48.1760000-05:00The *lock*
1007194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T21:18:06.8440000-05:00New storage stuffhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577681014298509315/JPEG_20190513_211750.jpg?ex=67b933de&is=67b7e25e&hm=734b5c7fa15ad8b3cf1586eb914774a6d89ab348566f702de16941e34d7a0070&
1008194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T21:42:56.9940000-05:00Dumpster timehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577687264927285296/JPEG_20190513_205642.jpg?ex=67b939b0&is=67b7e830&hm=397ce6e113e0412ed6b0e58b68797c93e62f3c8100a2adf8223554ea74501af3&
1009371416661040955403talkers2019-05-13T21:45:33.3220000-05:00😢
1010194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T21:57:54.9060000-05:00Off site is donehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577691030573547520/JPEG_20190513_215737.jpg?ex=67b93d32&is=67b7ebb2&hm=ac24cde24c5f7fe719f0df67f7d25e25a6c6a17a53aecf97702af5056542c89d&
1011194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T21:58:53.4610000-05:00Side note. I clean this place and it's a mess in no time
1012325498566762299393mizgeek2019-05-13T21:59:00.9410000-05:00Thank you Pearce.
1013194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T21:59:09.3590000-05:00He's cleaning out his foot btw he's gonna clean up
1014325498566762299393mizgeek2019-05-13T21:59:49.3020000-05:00Ugh. He ok?
1015194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T22:02:14.6610000-05:00Yep he's good
1016194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T22:12:53.2250000-05:00Only one I couldn't off site was nachos box. Too big to move on my ownhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577694798715027466/JPEG_20190513_201843.jpg?ex=67b940b5&is=67b7ef35&hm=aa2d570c3575e0e7202146b8484e72799d1aa327bb53b8eedf8014bbed079715&
1017371416661040955403talkers2019-05-13T22:41:21.5940000-05:00Hmmm Nacho was here today. I'll message him
1018371416661040955403talkers2019-05-13T22:45:08.3030000-05:00Nacho says Mark is going to use the material for shelves
1019529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-13T22:51:47.9910000-05:00Pearce, you are a prince to deal with this stuff. Count me in to help with the Cruel Bus costumes for the next event thing.
1020194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T22:59:51.0220000-05:00I also messaged nacho. He needs to remove it. Even if someone is going to use it.
1021194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-13T23:00:12.5960000-05:00@judy Kriehn I will hit you up for sure! We have some new people who might need some help
1022300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-14T09:53:55.1400000-05:00Thank you Pearce! Above and beyond to do that by yourself.
1023300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T09:58:31.4710000-05:00curious from you who've "been there, done that"... Why do we do offsiting once a month? I have been thinking that _if I were in charge_ it would be a continuous thing. Each time I'm there, I'd check _today's list_ and, if you're over and haven't qualified for extension, off it goes. Likewise, at storage, if it's at or over due, off it goes. It seems like this would be easier piecemeal as I'm there rather than scheduling one big day of shyt I'd rather not do...
1024115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:02:05.9920000-05:00mostly because there's a lot of stuff and it's often better to have help, so having a pre-set day makes it easier (in theory) to coordinate and get volunteers
1025115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:02:36.9140000-05:00personally, I think off-siting is the wrong approach, virtually no one ever goes to retrieve their off-sited materials from what I've seen
1026115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:02:42.8560000-05:00we could save money and time by just tossing the stuff
1027300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:09:23.1510000-05:00@A. Spencer(jast) that was similar to @AGr 's proposal, would have been more frequent and at least weekly, but he did not win the committee's support
1028194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:09:33.6640000-05:00We could save money by not having 5 storage units
1029300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:10:08.0750000-05:00@merissa well, he didn't arrive with as many votes, anyway 😉
1030194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:11:09.2980000-05:00I only used the one and not much of it. The inconvenience of making someone have to go off site is really the only punishment we have for taking storage from the rest of the membership and then making someone else deal with it
1031300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:11:13.3020000-05:00True 😉 but to be fair, Pearce won the support of the members present at the vote
1032115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:11:47.1560000-05:00we're basically paying hundreds of dollars to store what is effectively someone else's trash
1033194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:12:26.7330000-05:00No we are paying hundreds to store a bunch of committee trash because they won't move their stuff
1034115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:12:57.6350000-05:00lol so then it's _our_ trash
1035194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:13:00.9410000-05:00Like the 2 completely trashed large format printers
1036300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:14:15.7840000-05:00would it be do-ocracying it to bring _all that sh....chtuff_ and drop it in the "new warehouse" and tell the committees to deal with it?
1037194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:14:38.4120000-05:00Doing that would get in the way of electrical
1038300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:14:39.3180000-05:00or "garage sale" everything on...let's say May 17-19...
1039262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:14:40.4560000-05:00Talk to the committee and offer to put them up for sale ...
1040300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:15:15.5670000-05:00So we're saying logistics needs to have a more hard line approach with committees who want to put their stuff in offsite, right?
1041300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:15:25.1020000-05:00hm. Like the garage sale idea. Schtuff doesn't even need to come back to DMS. Just hold it right there on premises of the storage lockers...
1042194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:15:41.3090000-05:00Although I feel like we could deal with it at the space.
1043262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:15:43.1790000-05:00OR have the committee pay for storage
1044115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:15:44.0620000-05:00if the committee wants to pay for a storage unit out of their funds, I say let them, but it shouldn't be a logistics expense👆 (1)
1045194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:15:55.5990000-05:00A lot of this is problems from the expansion
1046194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:16:13.0710000-05:00Like glassworks having most of a locker
1047300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:16:20.2280000-05:00well, the BoD did approve _some_ of those storage lockers. for expansion. I think there may even be others, procured by the committees themselves...
1048300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:16:24.4050000-05:00Selling off items (properly) should be the responsibility of the committee who "owns" the item, not logistics👍 (2)
1049262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:17:13.0190000-05:00If the board approved then there should be money allocated from the board each month designated for that committee to pay
1050300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:17:13.9270000-05:00but _what do we do_ when the "owning committee" can't git'rdun?
1051300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:17:21.6230000-05:00Logistics needs to give them a hard deadline then kick stuff to the dumpster👍 (2)
1052194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:17:47.1980000-05:00I think it's all based on expansion at this point
1053194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:18:07.3090000-05:00Remember when the board said we would be in by November December?🤣 (2)
1054300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:18:10.6670000-05:00I have a feeling we have the right people in the right places, logistics committee-wise for that to happen in the next 6 months...
1055300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:18:12.6350000-05:00Not really though when some of it is broken/damaged equipment no longer used
1056262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:18:47.2370000-05:00Side point: There needs to be something somewhere that says if you leave something here.. in your storage or committee storage or whatever storage ... if it exceeds the time limit .... it can be sold or given to another org
1057194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:19:06.8080000-05:00We can't just have them fill the 102 warehouse with stuff though.
1058194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:19:19.1500000-05:00What do you mean?
1059194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:19:52.8250000-05:00Stuff abandoned in the committee areas can be dealt with as needed by the committee
1060194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:20:38.1950000-05:00Which goes hand in hand with "no personal storage in committee areas"☝ (2)
1061262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:21:34.2030000-05:00For example, if someone leaves there personal storage and is no longer a member ... and there are things in the storage that can be sold or used .. it should be known that that can happen .. this goes with off-site committee storage that isn't agree to be paid in some way
1062194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:22:52.1180000-05:00Historically we trashed stuff because we don't want to be accused of theft and the what not if the person comes back and starts trying to reclaim property
1063194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:23:18.0990000-05:00Let's say someone had a nice circular saw in their storage
1064194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:23:46.0640000-05:00And we added it to the tool wall because it had been in off site for 2 months
1065306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:24:05.3350000-05:00I really feel like if your stuff has to be off sited you should be banned from using storage for at least 3 months.
1066194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:24:17.3950000-05:00They came back and had some way to prove ownership (I have no idea. It's an example)
1067306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:24:19.8120000-05:00Because a lot used to be frequent flyers.
1068194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:24:34.6770000-05:00Claimed we stole it and benefited from stealing it
1069306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:24:39.3990000-05:00Like I could predict some of the names every month I would see.
1070262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:24:56.1940000-05:00I understand that ... perhaps selling it would be better or giving it to another 501c3 org
1071194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:24:56.3570000-05:00Yes. People need to lose storage rights
1072194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:25:20.5460000-05:00That doesn't happen currently but is on the slip they sign
1073300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:25:50.9140000-05:00is the verbiage for that slip anywhere referenceable _other than the slip_?
1074194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:26:12.2040000-05:00All over the storage rules that are posted
1075194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:26:22.9500000-05:00They *sign* the slip
1076262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:27:10.3260000-05:00It needs to be on the slip and in a membership agreement
1077262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:27:15.3870000-05:00and plain to see
1078194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:27:16.0840000-05:00Otherwise I treated it like an EULA and haven't read it in a while
1079300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:27:53.6620000-05:00I meant so that I could use them now for my own edification. I steer clear of storage for a variety of reasons (least being my forgetfulness would cause me to lose stuff)
1080262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:28:04.4340000-05:00I mean it is pretty standard to auction off items from a storage place
1081194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:28:27.4090000-05:00It's not worth the accounting that would be required
1082194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:28:38.2780000-05:00You saw what got trashed yesterday
1083194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:28:52.9200000-05:00Pile of shit woodhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577880017741021184/JPEG_20190513_205642.jpg?ex=67b94474&is=67b7f2f4&hm=4ba4c542afff4adc0f22a4426f963a56570c38d4606caa6add48985006408966&
1084262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:28:56.2450000-05:00I think it would be worth it ... IF it was worthy
1085300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:28:57.0070000-05:00what were those long thingies in the foreground? looked expensive...
1086262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:29:03.2560000-05:00not everything will be sold
1087262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:29:10.4450000-05:00most will not
1088194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:29:20.4870000-05:00Front grey thing is a broken mat cutter👌 (1)
1089306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:29:24.5320000-05:00Dude we could just trying selling the stuff that is for sure for sale first.
1090306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:29:44.7340000-05:00Rather than worrying about auctioning off random bits of wood
1091194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:29:52.8250000-05:00It was a bunch of trash wood. It's not worth doing the paperwork for
1092306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:29:52.8570000-05:00Because real talk it’s mostly wood
1093300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:30:33.2420000-05:00what about just doing a pallet @ rene bates (or whatever)? "Pallet o' whatever random junk we removed from storage this month"
1094300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:30:49.5870000-05:00shrink wrap that baby and send it off...
1095306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:30:52.5080000-05:00Those sell for like $10.
1096306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:31:03.2000000-05:00Not worth the time arranging it.
1097194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:31:15.7770000-05:00Personally. Spinning off a bunch of the storage to separate committees is a bad idea because they will have a plethora of different rules and no one will know what's going on ever.💯 (3)
1098300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:31:22.0840000-05:00it'd make me feel better than dumpstering it
1099300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:31:35.1270000-05:00and take up less precious dumpster space
1100306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:31:59.6350000-05:00Don’t we generally dumpster it at the storage space or did that change?
1101300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:32:04.6490000-05:00are we dumpstering @ storage site, or our own dumpster?
1102262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:32:16.6110000-05:00I think we need video of the dumpstering of the stuff .. I think it might cut down on people leaving stuff
1103194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:32:20.5130000-05:00If you guys are willing to put the foot work into selling it, look up how we can sell it legally. It's abandoned member items.
1104316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:32:31.4740000-05:00the time and effort involved for anything other than trashing is not in the org's interest nor valuable use of volunteer's time💯 (1),👏 (1)
1105194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:32:38.2020000-05:00Right
1106306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:32:51.1820000-05:00It’s also somewhat satisfying to dumpster it. Lol
1107316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:32:58.8770000-05:00apparently prior logistics and bod looked at abandoned property claims / sales. It's not worth the legal hassle
1108262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:32:59.6840000-05:00It depends on what it is ... if it is worth $300 ...
1109300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:33:01.5960000-05:00If we fully enforced existing storage rules, maybe people would get their act together and abide by the rules, remove their stuff, and we'd have less shit to deal with👍 (1)
1110316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:33:03.2190000-05:00easier to toss
1111194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:33:18.5050000-05:00And I have no real interest in saving it for someone to bring back for me to throw away again. Not after the off sites I've done☝ (2)
1112316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:33:32.2480000-05:00^^^ this
1113194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:33:50.5830000-05:00Right. Step 1 is getting back to full enforcement of the rules
1114306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:33:54.3990000-05:00I tossed out a sink once.
1115262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:33:55.6970000-05:00If it is over a certain value ... I say .. sell it .. if not trash it
1116306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:34:13.8590000-05:00Again there’s the legwork in selling it.
1117115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:34:20.1160000-05:00right, the focus shouldn't be on "how do accommodate people who don't care about the stuff they leave?" it should be "how do ensure there's space available for people who actually want to work on projects?"👍 (2),dms (1),💯 (2)
1118262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:34:23.6320000-05:00Yes and money to be made
1119300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:34:35.0720000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Category:Logistics#Storage_Policies🤘 (1)
1120194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:34:35.0850000-05:00Even if that means I have to do it with Kris as chair and have to figure out her random extensions she gives out
1121306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:34:47.4850000-05:00Depends on how valuable you think volunteer time is.
1122262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:34:50.2920000-05:00Pay for storage with what is in storage
1123300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:34:56.4820000-05:00There's the text from the slip @A. Spencer(jast)
1124262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:34:57.8170000-05:00make it pay for itself
1125300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:35:30.5170000-05:002016 was the last update? Really? OK.. Seems like yesterday...
1126300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:35:53.3770000-05:00Hah
1127300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:36:09.1780000-05:00I don't think the policy has changed, it just hasn't been enforced
1128316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:36:14.5430000-05:00@Draco there are legal implications on *claiming* abandoned property versus just trashing it
1129316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:36:23.3060000-05:00if we sell it we are claiming it☝ (1)
1130194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:36:29.5290000-05:00I tried to update the wiki but I can't even figure out how to get it out of the busted visual editor
1131316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:36:41.4460000-05:00@pearce just use the source editor
1132316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:36:51.8760000-05:00I gave up on the visual editor
1133194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:36:52.1360000-05:00No habla
1134262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:36:52.1830000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium ... that is what the storage agreement and membership agreement is for .. it isn't that complicated
1135194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:37:29.6460000-05:00@Draco the storage agreement was made so we could trash it. Not claim it.
1136194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:37:42.9230000-05:00Current one was at least
1137262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:38:46.3000000-05:00Everyone is so up in arms over committee spending and board spending ... they value $$ ... why don't we at least see how much money *could* be made if we did sell the things ... get some data .. and then see if it is worth the trouble
1138300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:38:46.6050000-05:00so if we retained a service, Junk Luggers, say, to _remove_ the stuff, would that be "claiming" or "discarding" the stuff?
1139306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:39:02.7330000-05:00It’s apparently complicated to claim abandoned property. Allen did some research on it so you might check with him.👍 (3)
1140262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:39:25.8420000-05:00I shall
1141194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:39:44.6190000-05:00This is all for stuff someone else has already abandoned once. It's not worth a ton of effort☝ (1)
1142115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:39:47.5500000-05:00@A. Spencer(jast) I think that would fall under discarding, same as if we just scrapped it👌 (1)
1143300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:40:38.6260000-05:00@pearce if you click on "edit" it tries to open the visualedit, but should error out and xfer you to the markup editor. Just click on "edit source" instead, and it'll take you the markup editor. ez pzvaultboythumbsup (1)
1144316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:40:49.0910000-05:00@Draco we can't out-write property laws in the state of texas; at the same time, we'd have issues over a few factors: cost of creating a proper legal document and effort of sale versus actual income; someone claiming they weren't treated the same as someone else; someone claiming that they were denied process so something could be sold; etc.
1145316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:40:49.6820000-05:00For the value of the crap people are leaving this is not worth the effort
1146316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:41:32.3490000-05:00then there are certain things you can't even write a simple document for
1147316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:41:38.2760000-05:00or sell legally
1148300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:41:51.8560000-05:00so did "we" fill our dumpster, or storage's dumpster yesterday?
1149316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:41:57.0550000-05:00and we'd have to jump down the rabbit hole of figuring all of that out using volunteer hours etc
1150194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:42:58.5250000-05:00The storage place put a fucking gate on the dumpster because we kept filling it
1151194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:43:23.0220000-05:00So it has to be loaded up and brought back to the makerspace to be unloaded and trashed
1152194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:43:44.6260000-05:00Which is why I'm 100% for taking away storage rights💯 (1)
1153262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:43:49.9740000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium cost of creating a proper legal document .... we have to create a membership agreement anyway effort of sale versus actual income ... this requires data someone claiming they weren't treated the same as someone else ... what? people arguing over if there thing was trashed or sold? Mine was unfairly trashed! It should have been sold! or the reverse? Doesn't make sense to me someone claiming that they were denied process so something could be sold ... this is valid ...
1154194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:44:28.8110000-05:00Here's a question though. How long do we hold on to lost and found? Those boxes are piling up👆 (1)
1155306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:44:38.6800000-05:00I’m actually in favor of getting rid of storage entirely unless you’re a teacher but that’s an unpopular opinion.
1156300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:44:41.3280000-05:00that. right there. good reason to find another way. Whatever that may be. I think junkluggers is likely to do us a solid...https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/577883990367928371/unknown.png?ex=67b94827&is=67b7f6a7&hm=d5e559efc344cfd706c82af16008aa6e0d013460e6c863a6945a43c1986565f3&
1157300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:45:10.6280000-05:00@SewingStuff Zach is on your side.
1158115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:45:25.4240000-05:00I think @AGr once suggested a long/slow conveyor belt that went to the dumpster, so that's also an option 🤣😃 (1)
1159300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:45:51.1460000-05:00He does need a new project... 😁
1160300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T10:46:12.3160000-05:00Now that strandbeest is done
1161306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:46:15.7720000-05:00I liked the Brooks method where he just trashed everything but Allen apparently came up with this process because it’s less upsetting.
1162300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T10:46:19.5170000-05:00wasn't that for the fridge?
1163547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-14T10:46:53.3300000-05:00there's a duty of care associated with profiting from storage
1164262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:47:36.8580000-05:00@aceat64 I really like that idea of the converyor belt ... or have the storage over the dumpster where you just press a button and it dumps into it
1165316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:47:57.3440000-05:00@Draco consider catalytic converters. If one of those is in storage and it was sold DMS could be in big trouble. The trouble is that property law is complicated, our lawyer isn't that kind of specialist (and on top of that would definitely not be in the retainer), the claim of unequal treatment is what we have right now (some people are allegedly given grace by means of personal favor by leadership), As for the effort the cost of handling all that wood, chemicals, and other crap and the value it brings in is not worth the effort. We could do better with the time spent just trashing it and doing membership outreach? The catalytic converter is a single example; there are tons of things we legally can't sell, or are logistically impractical to do so. Maintaining that list is problematic
1166316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:48:04.2450000-05:00people have all sorts of crap in there storage
1167115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:48:18.1980000-05:00we could get another dumpster, specifically for storage, just have it emptied once a week, no extension, no excuses lol😃 (2),💩 (1)
1168547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-14T10:48:45.4430000-05:00probably cheaper than renting a unit
1169262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:48:50.8380000-05:00Yes .. the storage IS the dumpster ..
1170115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:48:57.0930000-05:00"I didn't know it would be thrown away!" it was literally in a dumpster already
1171262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T10:49:11.3660000-05:00Dumpster with shelves
1172306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T10:51:29.3400000-05:00That’s sort of how I think of storage already.
1173115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:52:31.6890000-05:00no, it's clearly "scrap wood recycling with shelves" right now
1174115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:53:05.6770000-05:00you know on the plus side, I think throwing away wood might be carbon negative?
1175115183069555589125aceat642019-05-14T10:53:37.3300000-05:00could spin it as an environmental win to trash the stuff
1176316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:55:06.5090000-05:00I say we have a space wood chipper dedicated for project storage
1177316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:55:16.4900000-05:00save on some dumpster space
1178316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-14T10:55:41.5400000-05:00at least until a box with something flammable hits it. But it's ok, the agreement will say the member needs to pay for a new wood chipper
1179194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:59:55.0560000-05:00Many people had chemicals on their shelves
1180194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T10:59:58.9410000-05:00And paints
1181300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:01:31.7390000-05:00that really should be insta-ban from storage...
1182300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:01:55.1970000-05:00but painting stuff is such a big part of makery things...
1183300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:02:05.2280000-05:00🤷
1184547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-14T11:02:18.0020000-05:00industrial shredder conveying the detritus to a dumpster👍 (3),💣 (1)
1185300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:03:17.8880000-05:00x-committee project?
1186300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:04:09.8330000-05:00dammit! now I have to watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdZkSdNKSM
1187300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:04:47.9160000-05:00such a pity. That pan looks just fine in the vid...
1188547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-14T11:05:39.9960000-05:00all the stereotypes
1189300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-14T11:23:27.3730000-05:00Making Woodshop handle Woodshop storage would get rid of 75-90% of the off-site issues.... but only if they are absolutely not allowed to store wood products anywhere else.
1190194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:25:23.0110000-05:00And it would create a whole new ruleset for storage☝ (1)
1191194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:25:35.4150000-05:00People are already confused at one set of rules
1192300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-14T11:26:01.0310000-05:00I don't think it would matter if it was all inside the Woodshop area.
1193194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:26:24.6400000-05:00Not to mention storage of personal stuff in the committee areas.
1194194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:26:50.1990000-05:00Let the committee deal with keeping the tools working and finding new ones for the membership to take advantage of
1195194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:27:22.7140000-05:00We have a committee who is supposed to deal with getting project storage for the membership. Logistics💯 (1)
1196300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-14T11:27:36.4350000-05:00The current problem is that 75-90% of the storage issues are caused by projects that are clearly woodshop projects... and very little of the off-siting volunteer work is done by woodshop
1197194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:28:00.5460000-05:00Very little off siting is done at all
1198194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:28:03.9110000-05:00That's the issue
1199300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-14T11:28:40.8020000-05:00If that was true, we wouldn't have a storage unit that is damn near full of off-sited garbage.
1200194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:29:01.0460000-05:00Not anymore
1201194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:29:10.2090000-05:00It's all boxed now
1202194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:29:40.2680000-05:00But realistically who's going to police if an item is woodshop or not?
1203194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:30:35.1920000-05:00Because it's wood you have to deal with woodshop? Or would there be exceptions because it has wood, but also metal. And plastic
1204194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:30:39.4850000-05:00Where's it go?
1205300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:33:19.7260000-05:00Yeah I'm with Pearce. It seems like logistics should be finding ways to support the committee areas *better*, not push more tasks onto them💯 (1)
1206194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:34:02.0230000-05:00All I see is the storage filling up and not getting cleared because they have better things to do with committee days
1207300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:37:09.2970000-05:00has anything been discussed/tried regarding a sweat equity requirement before being allowed to use or extend storage? E.g. for every hour you spend helping with offsiting and/or auditing storage, you get 1 month "entitlement"? I can see the shortfalls in having to keep up with all the BS, but it shunts the grunt work off on to people who actually use it...
1208300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:37:58.2370000-05:00Pearce said that's how he'd base granting extensions, putting in logistics work hours👍 (2)
1209300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-14T11:38:30.6060000-05:00maybe that's when the idea entered my conscience, but I credited my creativity 😄
1210306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T11:39:59.4230000-05:00Well and you could put the people who aren’t physically capable of lifting all of that stuff on phone call duty or something.👍 (2)
1211306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T11:40:13.8760000-05:00I’d rather schlep than call any day.💯 (1)
1212300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:40:21.1120000-05:00Lol well I think he said that in the committee meeting and not on here/Talk, so it might just be that yall both come up with good ideas 😉👌 (1)
1213300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:43:19.7600000-05:00Phone calls are overkill in my opinion. People should know the rules/timeframes when they choose to use project storage and we shouldn't have to baby them.😆 (1)
1214194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:43:24.1140000-05:00My wasteland group has an unreasonable number of people with broken backs. I can find non lifting jobs to do
1215194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:45:05.0410000-05:00My plan was to do off siting first, then give extensions based on who showed up to help. If there's too many people, or not enough to off site (a best case scenario) then we find something else to do. Sweeping. Cleaning tables. Taking out every trash can you can find etc👍 (3)
1216545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:45:13.9400000-05:00Everyone has a broken back when it comes to manual labor
1217194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:45:21.4290000-05:00I noticed
1218545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:45:35.1610000-05:00I can’t get anyone to help with the ca flooring.
1219545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:45:45.9020000-05:00This is why we can’t have nice things
1220545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:45:51.6230000-05:00Like new flooring
1221300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:47:24.5410000-05:00@Lavarocks if it can it be done a weekend other than memorial day we'll help
1222545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:47:45.7650000-05:00I have the ok to move it to the next weekend.
1223545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:47:59.3210000-05:00I didn’t mean to hijack this convo Pearce
1224306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T11:48:08.3530000-05:00I’m working graduation Sunday and at the hospital on Monday otherwise I’d offer.
1225300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:48:48.6380000-05:00Awesome, I think myself or @AGr could help on 6/1
1226306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T11:48:55.0280000-05:00Flooring is pertinent to logistics.
1227300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:51:11.1720000-05:00Helping DMS feels good, whether it's logistics/CA/whereever, and we need to figure out how to get more people to see it that waydms (1)
1228306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T11:51:22.3490000-05:00Food helps.🍴 (1)
1229385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-14T11:52:28.2790000-05:00My teenage son looooved off-siting days when @LukeStrickland was Chair. Pizza. Being with his new friends.
1230545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:53:14.0300000-05:00I’m bringing pizza and drinks and we are hoping to make quick work of it.👍 (2)
1231385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-14T11:54:15.1680000-05:00We're in the thick of end-of-school. The timing is rotten, eden.
1232385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-14T11:54:37.7260000-05:00Rats.
1233194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:56:07.9400000-05:00I'm not super funded so I can't be promising pizza and beer for the meetings. And am on the side of committee funds shouldn't be use to buy food(bribes) for volunteers
1234334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T11:56:14.6080000-05:00What happens on 6 1?
1235194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T11:56:59.6910000-05:00June does
1236300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:57:09.1550000-05:00Flooring install in new CA area
1237300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-14T11:57:26.1660000-05:00I volunteered one of us to help 😉
1238334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T11:58:11.5890000-05:00will common area be migrated before then?
1239545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T11:58:56.1950000-05:00I was told it is just waiting for electric by James- I asked if he could promise end of month and he said ok. He knows it is volunteer dependent
1240334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T12:00:15.1460000-05:00meaning electrical buildout for all of 102 including the drops needed to support new common area?
1241385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-14T12:01:02.4070000-05:00@pearce They pooled their money for off-siting pizza.
1242194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T12:01:31.4150000-05:00Sounds like a plan to me
1243545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T12:01:43.5460000-05:00Yes. He said They need electric drops for common room and if digital media hadn’t moved he would move them.👍 (1)
1244334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T12:04:48.6690000-05:00```1) Fixed term project storage, no extensions, no extension meeting. Every project gets 6 weeks from the time they print a ticket. Currently you get anywhere from 8 days to 35 days to store your project before requiring an extension. Requesting / granting extensions is an extra ambiguous step that can have selective enforcement and requires extra communication / overhead 2) Local purgatory shelf, no 'off site'. To reduce volunteer labor, at least once a week expired projects will be moved to purgatory shelf. When moved there its logged whose project it is and when it was placed there. Spending 5 weeks on purgatory shelf = thrown in dumpster 3) Ticket system enforces project storage bans, if your project gets moved to purgatory shelf you lose ability to use project storage for 1 to 2 months 4) Otherwise circumventing intended rules, like taking something off purgatory and putting it back in normal storage, would result in losing ability to use project storage for 1 to 2 months.```
1245334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T12:06:17.1900000-05:00Is what I previously proposed for project storage rules, a key feature is using the ticket generating system to enforce losing privileges. Its possible that the abandoned projects are all coming from brand new members instead of repeat offenders, in which case the managing project storage rights wouldn't actually help
1246262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T12:06:54.0810000-05:00.... sell items .. buy pizza ... bribe people .. profit!
1247262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-14T12:07:00.0620000-05:00err .. nonprofit!
1248194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T12:09:34.7450000-05:00I saw quite a few repeat offenders this time
1249334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T12:15:11.9710000-05:00Other idea I didn't list above which would be hard to enforce would be trying to limit project storage to a project. Meaning it's not a catch all storage area for you, but a place to put items related to a specific project with a specific deadline. That gets into the no extensions, would need to visually know whats in storage to see if they print a new ticket for the same project and then penalize them for that
1250334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T12:21:02.6180000-05:00Other random radical idea THAT IM MENTIONING WITHOUT FULLY THINKING OUT OR CONSULTING ANY DOMAIN EXPERTS THIS IS JUST A BRAINSTORMING IDEA AND IS LIKELY BAD could be to move away from smallish shelf based project storage entirely, and only have large pallet and vertical project storage. For example I built all of strandbeest by bringing boxes of all the parts to and from DMS every time, with the exception of using vertical storage to store some sheet plywood for up to a week before I cut it down. So could say if its small enough to transport in a car you don't need to leave it at dms.
1251545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T12:24:44.6660000-05:00You’ll feel the wrath of Cairenn for this idea
1252306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-14T12:25:29.4180000-05:00I think project storage should be completely removed except for teachers anyway
1253334393967015755776agr00902019-05-14T12:31:30.1220000-05:00The big thing to guess at is how much value / utility having a spot to store a project provides to attracting new members, prompting them to join, if we could keep same membership level with no project storage then sure that would be great
1254227585388544393219axeonos2019-05-14T17:27:21.1930000-05:00id personally like to thank @pearce for all he's done for Logistics- i would nominate him for a month of membership but cant, so please accept my gratitude for all you've done, clearly giving your all when there is no rewards given. what volunteer help should be. Thank You.
1255194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T17:31:01.2980000-05:00haha i appreciate it anyway
1256194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-14T18:26:18.9770000-05:00logistic needs to apply reflective material on all the windows before texas switches back to hell
1257545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-14T18:35:18.2460000-05:00Better get started, hell starts next week.
1258547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-15T10:05:11.1110000-05:00spray foam insulation
1259334393967015755776agr00902019-05-15T12:24:47.8980000-05:00could just relocate thermostat to those rooms, keeping those rooms at normal temps while freezing out the rest of the space and burning through member money
1260334393967015755776agr00902019-05-15T12:27:01.3390000-05:00or buy a window unit, and just set it on the floor in the doorway, to slightly cool that room while generating more heat for the hallway
1261115183069555589125aceat642019-05-15T12:28:23.3360000-05:00the expensive, but ideal, option is to put more RTUs in
1262115183069555589125aceat642019-05-15T12:28:36.8940000-05:00there's a non-trivial cost though
1263488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-15T12:38:18.6810000-05:00At 15k minimum per....
1264115183069555589125aceat642019-05-15T12:51:30.4740000-05:00could possibly do a ductless split system
1265547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-15T13:04:47.8490000-05:00Those windows are immense. Are they even dual-pane?
1266115183069555589125aceat642019-05-15T13:07:17.1950000-05:00likely no
1267547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-15T13:07:17.2250000-05:00honestly, one thing the window industry has worked their d_mndest to obfuscate is the fact that windows are inherently inefficient. you can put film on them, exotic fill gasses, double/triple pane all you want - they'll pretty much never match a wall for insulation.
1268300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-15T13:08:55.2040000-05:00put they're tops in transparency, which seems to be a "thing" @ DMS presently...😁 (1)
1269547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-15T13:11:29.2770000-05:00not a lot of *outdoorsy* types at DMS - and I don't consider my ill-advised strategy last year of "construction work during the summer" putting me into the *outdoorsy* category
1270547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-15T13:11:52.8550000-05:00however, the humor wasn't lost on me 😉
1271300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-15T13:13:12.7950000-05:00dadjokes'r'us (have to be "a certain age" to get that, too)
1272300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-15T13:38:19.3970000-05:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxfWNJI5ks
1273194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T20:02:11.7490000-05:00Jeremy Aldridge was given a 2 day extension to get his stuff out and has printed a new storage ticket for himself.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/578386684601958400/JPEG_20190515_200053.jpg?ex=67b9cad3&is=67b87953&hm=e23a7c5b8501e95a7ba1b46a933ebfd4d6b207373d8fb3b162c9e6dd9e62cb1c&
1274194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T20:02:23.1450000-05:00Should have been removed yesterday
1275300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-15T20:07:35.1530000-05:00@kriskat30
1276304037876054753285kriskat3096852019-05-15T20:13:09.2080000-05:00Jimmie and he and I have been in conversation. I’ll let you know the outcome tomorrow
1277194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T20:27:00.6470000-05:00Can you document it anywhere?
1278529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-15T20:34:29.4940000-05:00Jimmie is something like 80 years old. Not excusing the behavior, just providing perspective.
1279194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T20:36:55.9820000-05:00Right, we talked about that, but extending his spot prevents other people from getting a change to store their projects
1280194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T20:38:02.6460000-05:00There was an inpromptu discussion with a lot of logistics about "where's the middle ground" while we were waiting on trucks to not show up on sunday
1281194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T21:21:00.2060000-05:00Took the last box of stuff to off site after I talked to @yoda and he got rid of the big boxhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/578406516269383710/JPEG_20190515_212016.jpg?ex=67b9348b&is=67b7e30b&hm=fb8b320d92718bc4dc48dbb97ddb7754202ae4a7c9cd894f67482c86e32dc6c5&
1282529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-15T21:39:04.0860000-05:00Gotcha
1283194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-15T21:44:09.1820000-05:00The tldr is that he was given extra chances recently and asked to not expand to multiple shelves, but ended up doing that anyway. And didn't ask for an extension on top of it
1284300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-16T13:42:17.5580000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium can you or @yashsedai fix my f'up with the title /name of the wiki page https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20190516_Special_Meeting should be https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20190515_Special_Meeting
1285488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:07.8670000-05:00sure
1286488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:13.6350000-05:00well
1287115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T13:43:15.7440000-05:00you can move the page
1288488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:16.1190000-05:00i can recreate the page
1289115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T13:43:30.8420000-05:00top right under the arrow/dropdown
1290488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:38.1910000-05:00ah
1291488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:42.2260000-05:00move should do
1292488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:44.6850000-05:00^^
1293488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:43:48.4180000-05:00damn weird terminology
1294115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T13:44:14.9530000-05:00think of it like in the linux command line, you don't rename files you `mv` them🤣 (1)
1295115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T13:44:41.4410000-05:00(yes I know there's a `rename` utility, but it's not a core util)
1296488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-16T13:52:23.4860000-05:00aye
1297388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-16T14:53:01.3910000-05:00I fixed denzokus meeting.minutes same way... he had month and date flip.flopped
1298115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:53:25.7730000-05:00YYYY-MM-DD is the how it should be, but that's a whole debate lol
1299190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:07:26.9980000-05:00people say that MDY is unintuitive, but honestly... In my mind, it's not any different from YMD, it just takes the year and puts it in at the end where it belongs since it only changes once a year.
1300190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:08:10.5930000-05:00I don't like DMY for the same reason I wouldn't like SS:MM:HH
1301547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:10:44.5510000-05:00most significant digits first
1302115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:11:31.0810000-05:00it bothers me that _almost_ everything in technology is most to least, except dates and DNS
1303115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:11:46.4780000-05:00it should be org.dallasmakerspace.talk
1304547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:11:48.0950000-05:00but hey. this is America and just because the rest of the world does it a more intuitive way doesn't mean will change our ways - witness the confusion at 24 hour time.
1305547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:12:04.6800000-05:00newsgroups are that way
1306190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:12:12.3480000-05:00hey why do we use radial subdivisions of hours
1307190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:12:20.7310000-05:00we don't use sundials anymore
1308547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:12:25.4920000-05:00natural division
1309547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:12:54.7430000-05:00decimal was resisted for so long because it has so few natural dividers
1310115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:13:02.7930000-05:00I tried and failed to find a gif from the Simpsons about metric time
1311115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:13:17.9730000-05:00I believe it was the monorail episode
1312190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:13:22.6350000-05:00monoraaaaaaail
1313547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:13:26.9620000-05:00Swatch was big on measuring time in *Beats* for a while
1314547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:14:21.9730000-05:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
1315547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:14:32.0700000-05:001000 divisions per day
1316300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-16T15:14:52.4600000-05:00this one, or a different one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP3nZ13AULs
1317547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-16T15:15:22.4180000-05:00one beat being 86.4 seconds per my hasty math
1318115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:16:11.0780000-05:00@A. Spencer(jast) that's the one
1319334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:26:17.6630000-05:00@pearce what do you need help with for logistics?
1320194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:26:52.2330000-05:00Ability to remove users from the storage system
1321194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:27:05.3790000-05:00Working with expansion on build out
1322194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:27:14.5060000-05:00And moving storage
1323334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:29:48.5210000-05:00Is the current code not on the dms github? https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace
1324334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:29:58.1620000-05:00not sure who originally deployed the current storage system
1325194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:31:52.7140000-05:00I'd like to plan to consolidate storage units
1326334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:41:44.1850000-05:00removing users from storage systems I guess begs the question of updating storage rules to setup punishments / rules
1327194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:44:33.7020000-05:00Rules as currently written.
1328334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:44:35.4230000-05:00would need more volume or a mass purge to consolidate units, not enough volume available
1329194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:45:41.5320000-05:00Loss of storage ability would coinside with removal from rfid system
1330194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-20T20:46:11.9710000-05:00I want to work on more storage. and a purge of vertical
1331334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:46:35.6690000-05:00Ha, I guess it does already mention bans, https://dallasmakerspace.org/w/images/f/fe/Project_Storage_1.0_2016-04-30.pdf
1332334393967015755776agr00902019-05-20T20:47:46.8650000-05:00Not sure if I have ever read that pdf, didnt realize the wiki wasn't the full policy, "Members that have violated storage rules may be banned from using Storage for a period of time to be determined by the Logistics Chair"
1333371416661040955403talkers2019-05-21T00:25:04.5630000-05:00Was that written by @ESmith or @know ?
1334316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-21T00:33:20.6000000-05:00Make sure you let infra know about the details to actually implement RFID revolution for the storage tickets. Other committees / groups have been using those tickets for non-storage things since it's a fast way to get a printout of member info with an entered description. Examples include automotive bays (parts run notices) lockout-tagout safety interlocks (who has key / why locked), etc
1335316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-21T00:33:40.0260000-05:00I'll probably push for deploying another, more purpose made kiosk at that time
1336194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T01:02:02.7300000-05:00It would be the same system
1337194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T01:02:11.5050000-05:00Brandon was talking to Bill about it
1338334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T01:44:41.9220000-05:00Said that code only exists on that tablet, I forgot to ask what credentials are or how to escape the local browser page
1339300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-21T07:47:23.6450000-05:00You might need another unit to stage out of while you consolidate the units we have.😂 (1)
1340300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-21T08:17:57.2940000-05:00Or do we have parking spots at cubesmart now? I've seen DMS member vehicles parked there long term
1341316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-21T10:03:22.1810000-05:00Oh no, this parking stuff is getting out of hand. Also code only exists on that tablet? That's a problem and we need to get it in our GitHub asap (after double checking no secret tokens are in it)
1342300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-21T10:04:43.5890000-05:00I have more RPI's with screens if you need one for a second system.👍 (2)
1343547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-21T10:27:39.1890000-05:00not sure who wrote that policy offhand - timestamp is from when I was chair
1344547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-21T10:28:14.5440000-05:00looks like my doing
1345547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-21T10:31:02.9800000-05:00wiki page was TL;DR version
1346547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-21T10:31:58.3640000-05:00not sure what *oral tradition* has translated into the general understanding of project storage usage among the membership in the >2 years since I was involved
1347194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:12:14.9870000-05:00Let's start planning for a meeting soon, what stuff do we need to buy/replace/repair.
1348194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:14:00.5030000-05:00June 2nd is the extension meeting, we should have a planning meeting before that, as the extension meeting will be spent doing physical work cleaning up the space. In an effort to reset the storage for more usability, extensions will be very hard to get.
1349334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:22:42.5380000-05:00Some ideas for potential talking points 1) When to start setting up shelving in 102 warehouse Auto and machine shop are probably ~3 months out from moving (I'm guessing August / September), and there are several phases after that. When should we have work tables and some storage setup and useable in 102 warehouse? 2) Project Storage How to keep current approach and rules with the modification of 'offsiting' to a special shelf that is in the warehouse, does that shelf need to be locked with time limited access to retrieve items? Automate ability to ban / limit members from printing new tickets after violation 3) Tool approach, per work table vs fixed tool walls vs tool carts I think the best approach would be having two fixed tool walls and an abundance of project carts stored next to wall. Intended workflow would be a member goes to tool wall, pulls off what they need to use currently, use the cart to hold and move the tools to their work area, and then later returns tools 4) Standardized tool list Sticking with ryobi, need to come up with list of ryobi tools to 5) Cleaning supplies A refresh / standardization of simple things like brooms and dust pans 6) Work tables Build awesome steel 4'x8' tables to displace current 5'x10' tables and some of the old Allen tables (not replacing the newly built tables, there are extra birch plywood tops that could be repurposed for these) 7) Come up with regular consumables list Things logistics will need to purchase every month
1350334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:23:21.9040000-05:008) How to downsize / reduce number of cubesmart storage units
1351388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:24:43.2530000-05:00Regarding ryobi, there's several newer hand vac portable vac models, would be nice to have one for woodworking area outside of woodshop. They also have battery powered soldering irons now, pretty nifty I bought one
1352334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:25:44.3640000-05:00Interesting hadn't seen that, that is one of the good things about ryobi, a ridiculous number of tools https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Hybrid-Soldering-Station-Tool-Only-P3100/305124211
1353194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:26:56.5790000-05:00The hand vac was actually functional when I used it at the space. I was expecting an asthmatic tool
1354194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:27:02.7410000-05:00I was impressed
1355334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:27:31.6830000-05:00probably an artifact of no one ever vacuuming, lol
1356194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:27:41.2220000-05:001) expansion is having a meeting tonight, I can't attend but they should have some answers
1357194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:28:41.2760000-05:002) could modify a pallet racks to have doors. Maybe tie it into the RFID system. And have it print a slip saying they lost storage rights( working idea)
1358194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:29:43.4580000-05:003) how do we get people to use the carts and not just take tools. Otherwise not terrible
1359194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:29:57.0640000-05:004) yes
1360194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:30:49.9280000-05:005) 6) 7) 8) more yes
1361388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:33:30.8360000-05:00The hand vac still works I emptied it couple night ago, but the bigger ones hold more wood crap etc, or spilled polypill beads, or whatever. Technically it's a wet dry one too
1362388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:34:31.1930000-05:00i own these three:
1363388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:34:31.8860000-05:00https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Stick-Vacuum-Cleaner-P718K/302681787
1364388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:35:02.4650000-05:00https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-3-Gal-Project-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-with-Accessory-Storage-Tool-Only-P3240/303579585
1365334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:35:15.1220000-05:00With things being so spread out, I think carts will be used because its easier than making multiple trips from your table to the tool wall. I'm not a fan of the distribute tools to every work table idea just because of the overhead of managing it, so the providing carts for people to use is an inbetween solution
1366334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:35:21.9390000-05:00Other rule for tool wall, NO ryobi powered sanding equipment allowed
1367388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:35:26.3750000-05:00https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-6-Gal-Cordless-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-Tool-Only-with-Hose-Crevice-Tool-Floor-Nozzle-and-Extension-Wand-P770/302775352
1368388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:35:36.1340000-05:00the 3rd one is a little anemic for its size
1369194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:36:55.9800000-05:00I'd agree with no sanders
1370194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:37:54.3040000-05:00I'm not sure if we need to go Ryobi on the large vacuums if they aren't better/cost effective. Unless they want to sponsor us or something
1371388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:38:07.8840000-05:00the middle one is great for spills oops
1372388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:38:11.0320000-05:00dry or wet
1373388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:38:23.5360000-05:00rather than hauling around a 10gallon one
1374388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:38:56.6430000-05:00the stick one we use in the kitchen, the dog room, etc
1375388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:39:13.1350000-05:00and technically on my ceiling fans
1376388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T13:39:14.3500000-05:00heh
1377334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:39:52.4710000-05:00Note this is not an actual floorplan but just what I found immediately to photoshop, but a general approach to where I think the general work areas and tool walls could go roughly.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/580464785984847874/unknown.png?ex=67b97135&is=67b81fb5&hm=eda44eccaa5ff2887206df6fd9dc3070f8d309f3b8fb9d1ed4e4cd4b394e0549&
1378334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:40:35.9200000-05:00I couldn't find a marlow final layout on my hd and cant access talk right now
1379194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:40:39.9540000-05:00Oh so they would never come back together like I had thought
1380194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:41:03.2290000-05:002 separate ones doesn't feel unreasonable
1381300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-21T13:41:54.7800000-05:00The north primary worktable area is in the front, not back
1382334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:41:54.8040000-05:00they would be ~150 feet apart
1383194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:44:56.5060000-05:00That map is a bit out dated but good start to go on
1384334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:48:09.7700000-05:00Potential tool wall locationshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/580466869278867473/unknown.png?ex=67b97326&is=67b821a6&hm=5e7cd71b1a476893193d1e0d2225faa10903c41caf227ffe1d8ce1f6d6c62f8f&
1385334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T13:49:04.6990000-05:00I can work on making a drawing of current location of things for future planning purposes later this week
1386194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:52:45.8390000-05:00Might use the upper right corner instead of the woodshop windows but otherwise reasonable
1387194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:53:08.7460000-05:00Nope that's a fake dotted line not a wall
1388194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T13:53:54.2630000-05:00That's annoyingly lacking in usable wall space
1389300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-21T13:58:22.1320000-05:00Since the woodshop walls haven't been built, float any minor changes you want to expansion. Walls without windows are cheaper....
1390334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T14:12:11.3230000-05:00https://www.grainger.com/product/WESTWARD-Phillips-Slotted-Square-Recess-1CLG1
1391334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T14:12:16.5270000-05:00https://www.grainger.com/product/product/WESTWARD-Black-Blue-Foam-Insert-6ZGT9?opr=OAPD&pbi=6ZGT9&analytics=relItems
1392334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T14:12:57.7170000-05:00One idea for tool walls, no tool chest or drawers anywhere, buy premade sets of tools and foam inserts, the foam inserts would be mounted on tool wall at a 45 degree angle
1393334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T14:13:38.8120000-05:00of course it would be much cheaper to make our own foam holders, but someone selling both the foam trays AND tools means for only 2-5x more money its already done and easily replaceable in the future💯 (1)
1394529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-21T15:04:29.6080000-05:00FYI- James indicated that that northern end of the 102 warehouse is being reworked. At the time he was providing overview, hatchers was going to go somewhere along the north wall, the sink was going to back up to plastics, and JSM and Ceramics might be shifted as well. I’ve slept since then, so don’t remember specifics.
1395334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T15:24:03.3030000-05:00Sounds like something I would have suggested https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/expansion-layout-finalized-8-10/40720/130
1396194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T20:56:34.0370000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/free-toolbox-or-donation/56332
1397194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T20:56:48.0390000-05:00does logistics need another toolbox?
1398194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T20:57:13.6370000-05:00for the new big committee room maybe?
1399334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T21:05:13.1680000-05:00I would suggest having no toolboxes at all, makes it hard to find stuff and just becomes a hidden mess
1400194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T21:05:37.8330000-05:00yeah i could see that
1401334393967015755776agr00902019-05-21T21:05:39.2230000-05:00Could instead have open face bins or foam organizer shelves on tool wall
1402194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T21:05:54.5160000-05:00its also smaller than i thought. the picture finally got added
1403194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-22T22:25:01.4080000-05:00Might be the best area to do locked shelves for "off site eviction"https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/580959343667838987/JPEG_20190522_222424.jpg?ex=67b9438d&is=67b7f20d&hm=4c7366683c99105e2bb7fe01120a214fe67f24e48a88208783d33796d800257e&
1404300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:26:28.2530000-05:00Can we name the area project purgatory? 😁trollface (1),dms (2)
1405388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-22T22:27:42.6360000-05:00Like both
1406194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-22T22:29:18.4970000-05:00Print makings current wall setup. Could be used as tool wallshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/580960421943574528/JPEG_20190522_222841.jpg?ex=67b9448e&is=67b7f30e&hm=fe229b67f05fac6367cf5977baa462100b23b031d3148d9670b26190180fffce&
1407529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-22T22:58:16.7540000-05:00Astrud is planning to use the wall facing 3D fab as a gallery wall. FYI.
1408194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-22T23:02:58.7460000-05:00Yeah I was told about that, I think it's better as a gallery on that side. That way people seleting tools won't be in the walkway
1409300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T23:07:35.7990000-05:00@pearce I have a business card from someone looking to do cleaning services for us to replace the current cleaning lady. I have it with me if you want it.
1410334393967015755776agr00902019-05-22T23:37:44.9120000-05:00Could also consider simply not having locked access (that would require either fencing around shelf or some kind of rollup netting or door on shelves) and depend on taking pictures of whats put there and enforcing penalty by restricting ability to print tickets for new projects for some time
1411194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:35:38.8260000-05:00@AGr I was thinkg rfid locked access. And badges that unlock the fence get auto removed from the storage system for x time.
1412194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:36:12.1590000-05:00So in order to get your stuff back you have to knowingly revoke your storage ability
1413194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:37:02.3060000-05:00@StanSimmons I will pick it up from you next time I see you, but I don't know that logistics controls that contract or if we are having issues with the current cleaning lady
1414194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:37:24.4540000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/landlord-agent-on-site-friday-5-24-2019-a-m/56422
1415194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:37:30.7040000-05:00/tableflip
1416334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:38:28.7340000-05:00ah, interesting idea of rfid access to secured area changing your permissions
1417194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:38:32.1300000-05:00Anyways, we have a bunch of shit to clean up. The fire cabinet has stacks of chems *on top* of it.
1418194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:38:52.4400000-05:00There's a metric fuck ton of parking lot violations. There's paint all over everything outside. The place is generally a mess.
1419334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:39:02.8270000-05:00the bottom shelf of paint cabinet could be restacked to fit more into it, but be sure to wear suitable respirator while doing it
1420334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:39:26.9190000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581174352976936960/Hbw-UjXOLsRM-EebZfXY9NS5Dd2nt8xZiWoAzVpG67KebG8qL8XkCfr6g5LX-xYEI7G-aZpC2qcvWngdqp5uyx2WThlJogdjlrgw.png?ex=67b9630b&is=67b8118b&hm=f1c5b97a0a6c65aa2cf8e0aee606b39de8e01cd7eb6a284f75c5a7edbc27a416&
1421334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:39:30.5520000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581174372413472771/WexivaqTPesUULT7z72cEpUHJyalhL5zSGH-DiDyOHLKyg8hHEbY3hT6eMrT_giPadUgkhCeQ__zx5MsLr-LcxivtaWO7vNrcoIf.png?ex=67b96310&is=67b81190&hm=faf928e1335e163bad611b24577d8aede36dd8e4166ea3bdfb0e3777c9a659f7&
1422334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:39:35.9830000-05:00Could move 5 gallon paint buckets onto logistics committee shelf
1423334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:40:16.9050000-05:00dont think I can make it tonight, need to wash car and watch spacex launch
1424194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:40:18.6250000-05:00I'll be there tonight, I have to wait for a package to get to my house before I can leave
1425300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-23T12:40:29.1830000-05:00what happens if you put fire _inside_ the fire cabinet?
1426334393967015755776agr00902019-05-23T12:40:43.5170000-05:00it gets hot
1427194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:40:43.9920000-05:00It cleans itself👍 (4)
1428488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T12:54:33.4270000-05:00latex paint doesnt belong in the fire cabinet
1429194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T12:57:23.3410000-05:00Personal storage doesn't either. If we can spray paint we shouldn't be storing it as well
1430488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T13:07:47.6780000-05:00Aye
1431115183069555589125aceat642019-05-23T13:09:57.1710000-05:00self cleaning fire cabinet, just like an oven
1432488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T13:11:28.4560000-05:00lol if only
1433488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T13:11:38.8090000-05:00just add some boiled linseed oil and paper towels
1434547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-23T13:15:06.6510000-05:00sequester that carbon in the atmosphere
1435488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T13:22:59.1290000-05:00spontaneous combustion GO!
1436300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:47:00.7180000-05:00@pearce the cleaning lady is just getting WAY too comfortable. She sits and chats with members regularly and disappears occasionally during the day. She does an ok job cleaning but doesn't understand anything about cross contamination... I've seen her mop the bathroom then immediately mop the kitchen. She has been talked to about that.
1437488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T13:49:46.4400000-05:00ewwwww
1438194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:50:59.1100000-05:00I've heard the complacency argument for swapping cleaning services every year or so
1439194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:51:26.2200000-05:00I'll look into who oversees the contract
1440300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:51:33.5910000-05:00Logistics
1441388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-23T13:51:51.2840000-05:00Perhaps he ment on her firm side
1442300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:52:23.3850000-05:00Kris has been handling the contract on our end... so good luck with that.
1443488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T13:52:30.7400000-05:00lol
1444300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:52:44.2670000-05:00She is not a happy camper right now
1445385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T13:53:16.4670000-05:00What are the contract terms for requesting the cleaning company to send us a new cleaning lady?
1446300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:53:38.9160000-05:00I've never seen the contract
1447194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:53:54.8460000-05:00I'm pretty sure it was a board action though. Because they sign contracts
1448385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T13:54:33.2230000-05:00It's one of the benefits of having an arm's length relationship, being able to replace workers as needed.
1449194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:54:58.9630000-05:00Happy camper or not, Kris should be able to hand over the needed info
1450300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:55:19.9710000-05:00Steve B may have info on the contract and will be easier to have a conversation with
1451385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T13:55:21.0920000-05:00Surely contract is on file on site?
1452300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:55:47.2680000-05:00Might be, not being on the BoD, I've never seen it.👍 (1)
1453300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:56:13.5430000-05:00Didn't care enough to ask either. 😉
1454194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:56:30.1380000-05:00I'll ping when I can look up the meeting minutes where it was approved
1455300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:57:10.6120000-05:00want me to text a pic of the card the other guy left?
1456194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:57:16.0060000-05:00Sure
1457385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T13:57:17.1690000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581193950073847828/unknown.png?ex=67b9754b&is=67b823cb&hm=32441435df245559dfdb3de1d47cacdbf4bf0683f2023fcf7155fa6de6960a17&
1458385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T13:57:23.5480000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20170319
1459300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T13:58:40.3930000-05:000470?
1460194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T13:58:45.4570000-05:00Yes
1461316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-23T14:07:06.8360000-05:00also Kathy might have info; I'm assuming we're actually paying
1462194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T14:15:15.1710000-05:00From that screenshot it does look like it comes from logistics. Nothing on the contract or company though
1463385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T15:33:43.7810000-05:00Promise Total Services https://www.promisesvc.com/ourservices.php
1464385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T15:34:00.5310000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581218292358709251/unknown.png?ex=67b98bf7&is=67b83a77&hm=ecd9acc260e1a98696a749a99d54589349fb009176228f3bda2701ec1a2811c1&
1465194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T15:34:05.5210000-05:00Good find
1466385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T15:34:24.3700000-05:00QBO-ing over here.
1467385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T15:35:13.8580000-05:00Look...we are due regular site inspections. that would help with issues. So much easier than switching companies.
1468385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-23T15:37:50.8130000-05:00Memo field in QBO: "Monthly Day Porter Service 5 days a week/ 7 hours a day schedule $16.25/hr x 7/hrs/day 5 days/ week x 4.33 weeks"
1469194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T15:38:14.1850000-05:00I'll get some authority to make contact as a DMS rep and give them a shout. Or get the bod or another official to do so with me
1470300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-23T15:47:36.2630000-05:00Seems to me Logistics would already have the authority
1471194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T15:57:32.0700000-05:00I would think so, but I'm not a fan of that "acting on behalf of DMS rule" that was made. Will play the game until rules are changed.
1472194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T15:57:59.0100000-05:00CYA and all that
1473316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-23T20:47:13.7130000-05:00I don't think that time applies, it's only representing DMS to a public official. It's logistics contract and allocation iirc
1474488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T20:54:48.1200000-05:00👌
1475194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T21:30:11.4300000-05:00Top left - labeled committee stuff. Mostly not fire hazard stuff. Top right - flammable stuff, unknown owners, disposal issues. Middle left - spray paint. Cant use it here. Shouldn't be storing it. Potential disposal issues. Middle right - deep gloss stainless maintainer 10x bottles. Unknown owner. 7x map gas 2x propane tanks. Various owners Bottom shelf big bottles. Bleach, muriatic acid, aquascat2 (?) Compressor oil, machine shop gear oil. Most of bottom shelf doesn't need to be in cabinethttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581307932390588440/JPEG_20190523_212528.jpg?ex=67b936b3&is=67b7e533&hm=9e3de96a3c081115600856146b44270ff05fca8629cef9c7f67c8eb617e32024&👍 (3),dms (1)
1476488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T21:54:10.5420000-05:00lol
1477488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T21:54:27.1020000-05:00you know about chlorine and oil right?
1478488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T21:54:41.3380000-05:00*shudders*
1479488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T21:55:19.7610000-05:00!help
1480488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T21:55:40.0440000-05:00/slaps @dallas-makerspace
1481300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-23T21:57:34.8300000-05:00I know nothing of chlorine + oil. what's the story on that?
1482488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:04:17.5520000-05:00fire...
1483488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:04:34.5560000-05:00the sodium hypochlorite content may be low enough in the consumer stuff to not matter
1484488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:04:46.5850000-05:00having seen pool tabs and oil is not pretty
1485488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:10:03.1660000-05:00not shooting the messenger
1486194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:10:04.6940000-05:00We literally just emptied this shelf off.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581317970517819422/JPEG_20190523_220947.jpg?ex=67b9400c&is=67b7ee8c&hm=183b464f1053d35e655750f35b16ef921683e1ad116f2f83d81262ad506190df&
1487194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:10:13.3630000-05:00It's not a storage rack
1488488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:10:16.9870000-05:00agree
1489488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:10:20.7720000-05:00its a logistics shel
1490488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:10:40.2840000-05:00read the sds, dont store the bleach in the fire cabinet 😛
1491194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:10:52.3850000-05:00Where to store then?
1492488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:11:02.0370000-05:00put it in the cleaning closet up by ca
1493488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:11:06.7810000-05:00there are shelves behind the door
1494488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:11:23.1480000-05:00also any ammonia based products in that cabinet?
1495194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:18:00.5230000-05:00Not that I know of
1496194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:18:11.3450000-05:00Moved the bleach
1497300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-23T22:20:16.2500000-05:00_scribbling notes that I should try a pool tablet in oil bucket experiment_
1498488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:21:58.3010000-05:00lol
1499300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-23T22:23:06.5430000-05:00how far back should I stand?
1500488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:23:19.5090000-05:00bleach + ammonia is even worse
1501488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:23:41.1680000-05:00the chlorine and oil bit is not violently explosive
1502488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:23:52.3240000-05:00id step back a good 15-25 feet
1503488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:25:45.0140000-05:00it will take a minute and then spout sad flame as long as its not enclosed,
1504300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-23T22:27:32.1580000-05:00_bleach and ammonia_ right. got it. 😆 Wait. We had a housekeeper do ammonia+bleach in a dorm commode once...
1505300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-23T22:27:49.6900000-05:00chlorine gas, IIRC
1506488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:37:00.4950000-05:00lol yep
1507488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:37:14.2910000-05:00thats just one of the products in that reaction
1508488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:37:37.2760000-05:00This post explains
1509488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:37:37.9640000-05:00https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/2759/synthesis-of-hydrazine-with-bleach-and-ammonia👍 (1)
1510194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:42:12.0400000-05:00All that trash painthttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581326054287998976/JPEG_20190523_224156.jpg?ex=67b94793&is=67b7f613&hm=c285f6ebae71abffb0622929956d496188df34b03642860bc98a0395ec456732&
1511529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-23T22:55:29.0620000-05:00Welp. I live close to the Dallas county chemical collection place. It’s on Plano Rd between Forest and Miller rd.
1512194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:57:02.0260000-05:00Yeah I'm close too but I recently had to dump a ton from my previous home owner. I don't want to make people dump it on behalf of dms
1513194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T22:57:17.7320000-05:00That might be needed if we can't find a solution
1514488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:58:50.4480000-05:00That lokos awesome!
1515488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T22:58:54.9890000-05:00Looks*
1516529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-23T22:59:41.1540000-05:00Lokos=band name
1517488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T23:21:50.6460000-05:00Do you know how much of that is latex vs oil base?
1518488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T23:22:38.3020000-05:00for all the latex, this can be used https://www.homedepot.com/p/Paint-Hardener-SSA-2170-PK/205572888
1519488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T23:22:49.2800000-05:00we can put it in our regular trash
1520194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T23:48:25.3390000-05:00I didn't read that far into the labels
1521488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T23:49:15.4800000-05:00no worries, i can look
1522488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-23T23:49:23.5330000-05:00should be around tomorrow
1523194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-23T23:57:04.0880000-05:00I was only looking for "flammable/inflammable"
1524488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-24T00:19:56.2550000-05:00Not trying to nit pick ya to death I promise! Just trying to make life easier
1525316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:20:40.8250000-05:00Home depot will take the Bher paint for disposal
1526316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:20:50.5760000-05:00At least that's what I used to do
1527316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:21:33.1760000-05:00Just don't try and take valspar to HD for disposal.... Or whatever the Lowe's one is,and vise versa. The policy is if they sell it they'll dispose of it. I've brought in upwards of 12 cans
1528316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:24:15.7850000-05:00@pearce regarding "emptying" of the loading dock shelves what all was actually removed? Hard to tell from the photo; a chunk of that stuff is actually DMS resources.
1529194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:27:41.6560000-05:00We tossed trash wood and broken stuff
1530194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:27:59.9950000-05:00We moved a bunch to the emptied out logistics committee shelf
1531194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:28:17.0050000-05:00Like LED lights and stuff
1532194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:28:57.5000000-05:00Moved two old air reels that probably got decommissioned when the roboreels when up, gave them to automotive tonight
1533194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:29:45.2930000-05:00Extension cables were put on the tool walls with surge protectors and what not
1534194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:30:15.6230000-05:00Grill was left there along with pop up tent thing. but should find a better home
1535194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:30:44.4770000-05:00It's mosts car interior parts that got moved onto the shelf.
1536316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:31:02.3680000-05:00The rest of the tent setup is in the storage facing woodshop annex as it's home; it got overpacked in the annex area so the tent itself didn't fit with the blower etc
1537316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:31:15.3230000-05:00If room can be made would be best to go with the rest of the gear
1538316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:32:34.1570000-05:00Also some of those LED lights were part of the tent; there should have been a wiring harness with them
1539194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:33:54.3250000-05:00they looked like replacements for the ones in the roof, the ones with duct tape pigtails were left intact and moved to the logi shelf
1540194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:34:18.3560000-05:00i dont remember a harness for them to plug into though
1541316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:34:43.7560000-05:00IIRC they're similar models. I wasn't aware of duct tape work on the cables; of have to take a look, someone may have damaged it or tried to make a new one
1542316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:35:18.1760000-05:00Basically it looked like orange tombstones so the lights could be hung on the tent frame and hooked up to power
1543194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:35:21.9020000-05:00there were several that looked like someone rigged them to work on 120 outlets
1544316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:35:28.0030000-05:00Yeah that's them
1545316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:35:41.7480000-05:00Personally I think some proper plugin lighting would be better
1546316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:35:50.5660000-05:00But that's what we currently have
1547194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T00:35:51.0930000-05:00they were all crudely taped up
1548316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:35:57.8010000-05:00Le sigh
1549316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:36:10.8560000-05:00Someone probably got rough with them and tried to fix it
1550316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T00:36:24.8260000-05:00It's been ages since I needed the lights personally using the tent so I hadn't looked at them
1551547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-24T08:16:37.2940000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium "tent" is something to do with ... powder coating?
1552316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T09:18:25.6620000-05:00powder coating is what I use it for, it's really for anything outside that just needs a roof over it's head
1553316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T09:18:49.7380000-05:00Like if someone is using an epoxy or something that's noxious I'd help them set up the tent to do it outside if they're able
1554316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T09:18:59.7940000-05:00(well, more willing than able. :P)
1555547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-24T09:23:35.5570000-05:00gotcha
1556316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T09:42:47.8380000-05:00We actually need to patch some of the side walls; it's seen better days. The blower and door setup is pretty nice but could prbably be tweaked to make it more user friendly. Some of the tent is not clear to someone who has never seen it assembled how it all fits together if you need the filtered air coming in and filtered air going out.
1557316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T09:43:04.8050000-05:00I usually teach it as part of my powder coating class assuming the weather and other space goings are conducive to using it
1558300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-24T10:35:41.7390000-05:00Looks like you got a lot done! Thank you @pearce ! 🏆 :dms:dms (3)
1559194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T10:37:11.9240000-05:00@aceat64 came up and heleped me sort through all that paint as well. Can't take all the credit
1560300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-24T10:38:06.9490000-05:00Awesome, great work guys!
1561300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-24T10:42:27.7450000-05:00Looks like the stuff for the second LED picnic bench got dumped. That was Ben P.'s eagle scout stuff that he was doing for DMS.
1562300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-24T10:43:44.1330000-05:00Weeks ago Kris said she was going to make Ben get rid of it or it would be trashed
1563115183069555589125aceat642019-05-24T10:53:52.5880000-05:00The only stuff we threw away last night was trash, e.g. completely empty plastic bottles
1564194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T10:56:01.6480000-05:00His stuff was still under the table as far as I know.
1565194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T10:57:05.6780000-05:00If you are referring to the resin that was on top of the fire cabinet, it was open and too old to be cured properly. And had someone elses name on it
1566194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T11:00:38.8730000-05:00What Merissa said + the fact that none of her special cases are documented anywhere.
1567300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-24T11:02:33.9120000-05:00Ah yeah I only knew of the wood and stuff under the table
1568194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T11:25:00.4670000-05:00As far as I know Ben's stuff is still herehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581518021244223491/JPEG_20190524_112438.jpg?ex=67b9519c&is=67b8001c&hm=19386461846f792cdd60ec2e760c20d175b3781a0fbcc129a332528f31dfa709&
1569194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T11:51:47.4820000-05:00Is woodshop just moving all their broken/unwanted tools into 102 warehouse?
1570194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T11:58:12.6990000-05:00What's this for?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581526376923004968/JPEG_20190524_115758.jpg?ex=67b95964&is=67b807e4&hm=6c2caa4ce609b1722e43e82c572f70ad3e14c1d9648ea5809df01a53dddcbaa5&
1571115183069555589125aceat642019-05-24T11:58:39.2820000-05:00[smartass answer about holding items vertically]
1572194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T11:59:12.9100000-05:00And the large printer that's in pieces.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581526629570838588/JPEG_20190524_115852.jpg?ex=67b959a0&is=67b80820&hm=08d528eabac1125fcc30beca233e4e708189b4f1c9b96b63fd2bc1197c9f5f0f&
1573300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-24T12:00:58.6850000-05:00Is that the big printer that was in CA annex?
1574194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T12:12:11.0860000-05:00No those are in storage👍 (1)
1575300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-24T12:15:03.3640000-05:00So no indication of who/what committee it belongs to?
1576194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T12:15:14.1930000-05:00Nope
1577194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T12:15:42.4980000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium these are the rigged LEDshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/581530780355002368/JPEG_20190524_121519.jpg?ex=67b95d7e&is=67b80bfe&hm=9f5a67f0794ab001aee59e98d4ea07f37d7730a6411d84724d60b00c90e50959&
1578194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T12:21:11.3390000-05:00Talked to the guy with car parts on the shelf we cleaned, he should be moving them to project storage
1579529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-24T14:25:44.7850000-05:00The broken woodshop stuff is (supposedly) earmarked for a garage sale. Mark was a bit gun shy about trying to quickly divest Dms of the stuff after the bus brouhaha.
1580529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-24T14:27:01.7030000-05:00Astrud and Paul said something about a large format printer on the dock that had not been disposed of, but I’m not real clear on the thing above vs the stuff in offsite.
1581115183069555589125aceat642019-05-24T14:45:01.4600000-05:00As long as it's posted publically and we aren't cutting special deals for members it shouldn't be a problem to sell
1582529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-24T14:46:37.9300000-05:00Or special deals for non members
1583334393967015755776agr00902019-05-24T14:58:14.0100000-05:00maybe a subject for next logistics meetings, but wondering what state of electrical work is, should we plan on setting up all the pallet racks next week?
1584300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-24T15:19:32.6180000-05:00Not next week, we are still getting bids for electric. In fact the stuff automotive put up needs go come down for fire alarm wiring work that is happening Wednesday.👍 (1)
1585547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-24T15:25:37.3620000-05:00in my observation that printer has been in various degrees of being stripped for parts
1586488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-24T15:50:36.5020000-05:00mmmm
1587488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-24T15:50:38.3550000-05:00partsss😆 (2)
1588316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:24:01.4930000-05:00@pearce good, it's not what I feared. It's still using the proper tombstone's looks like someone just added some stability. Thosr are push in wire tombstone's so I'm not worried but I think when we have time we can do better Regarding Ben's work, the table was *paid* for by DMS. If we tossed the surface we may be in trouble, as the one outside we recently explained to him he used bartop resin, which was already cracking since it's not UV rated. That was the replacement top IIRC
1589194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:24:26.6680000-05:00I posted the resin he was using
1590194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:24:32.1330000-05:00It's still with his stuff
1591316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:24:39.7470000-05:00BTW, as logistics here is the skinny on that table, if you see Ben working on anything other than the table at DMS his scoutmaster is supposed to be informed
1592316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:25:00.9200000-05:00He cut the project short below what the project was stated at and if he doesn't finish it they have to know for his eagle status
1593194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:25:03.1750000-05:00The resin I threw away was wasted by being opened and not used. And wasn't the stuff you would use on a table
1594316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:25:15.9900000-05:00Yeah I pointed out to him it was the wrong stuff
1595194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:25:19.6340000-05:00And there wasn't enough for a table
1596316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:25:26.1530000-05:00Just making sure the replacement top was still around
1597194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:25:51.9460000-05:00I'm at least familiar with resisns. The top is still under the table where it's not being worked on.
1598194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:26:06.1030000-05:00Kris did tell him it needed to leave during an off site
1599316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:26:11.4990000-05:00Yeah, basically his current plan is to try and fix the existing one
1600316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:26:23.6470000-05:00That's news to me, Kris told me it was still there to fix the current table
1601316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:26:38.6270000-05:00But *throws hands up* this is why we need documentation☝ (1)
1602194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:27:50.0580000-05:00Yep
1603316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:29:33.5290000-05:00BTW, infrastructure is getting LucidChart setup for our diagramming. Since it's in blocks of users for smaller licensing, would logistics be interested in a user or two for floor planning and the like? The nice thing about it is you can embed the linked images in the wiki, and they autoupdate as changes are made.
1604194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-24T16:30:22.8840000-05:00I'm sure we could use it but I don't know who right now
1605316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:31:25.7130000-05:00Well there's not a rush on it, but it's an option. It's going to be tied to the DMS Google/Okta SSO
1606316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:31:35.2860000-05:00Supports teams etc
1607316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-24T16:32:05.2230000-05:00Unlike Visio supports collaborative editing
1608300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-24T19:56:57.8630000-05:00Does Logistics handle the Parks Pantry thing, or does the BoD?
1609227585388544393219axeonos2019-05-24T19:58:26.2060000-05:00Both a little bit. Board talks to parks and we make sure parks cards are requested
1610300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-24T19:58:53.3520000-05:00BoD did the agreement?
1611227585388544393219axeonos2019-05-24T20:00:28.1260000-05:00Yup
1612194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-27T23:10:20.3380000-05:00Looking to have a logistics meeting on thursday night to get a roadmap going for logistics
1613334393967015755776agr00902019-05-27T23:13:22.2680000-05:00Submitted to calendar yet?
1614194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-27T23:14:42.4540000-05:00no just got out of DnD
1615194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-27T23:19:34.4680000-05:00submitted and pending
1616194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-27T23:19:50.1660000-05:00thursday at 730👍 (2)
1617547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-28T08:49:15.1880000-05:00did some minor cleanup on the Logistics wiki pages: - listed Pearce as provisional chair - updated some past meetings with the correct tags so they'd auto-accumulate - removed a redundant links section to past meeting minutes (2017) some other cleanup seems necessary but that's something that will come from the meetingdms (2)
1618300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-28T09:23:43.3610000-05:00I bumped the meeting up to the calendar
1619300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-28T10:38:28.7830000-05:00@pearce, we are out of paper towel rolls, and low on other paper goods. Do you want me to continue to get that stuff from Costco/Sams like I have in the past?
1620300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-28T10:59:36.9650000-05:00@pearce
1621194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T11:06:08.3840000-05:00That's one of the things i wanted to look at in the meeting
1622194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T11:08:13.3180000-05:00Thanks @ESmith
1623194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T11:33:18.4040000-05:00@StanSimmons I had the logistics meeting in the lobby classroom, was that available to use? I figured the (do not use)from the certificate of occupancy stuff and just hadn't been removed
1624300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-28T11:36:33.6880000-05:00We don't have cameras up everywhere yet, so still limiting non-DMS business meetings in the north side, but Logistics is obviously fine.
1625194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T11:39:11.2540000-05:00Ah cool. Thanks. If you need help running cable for cameras I can do that
1626300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-28T12:29:07.3830000-05:00Most of it is pending getting the fiber terminated so we can have fast connection between 102 and 104. But we will need more ethernet run in the next few weeks
1627334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T12:44:47.9870000-05:00Trying to list everything on current tool wall / what could be standard list of updated tool wall
1628334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T12:44:49.0360000-05:00https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l0aj0mGCbLDAOqDsyaGFKmaJrycv4LfCC2QI_lvVDao/edit?usp=sharing
1629334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T12:44:56.2020000-05:00Is this list missing anything big?
1630194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T12:45:49.6980000-05:00I'll have to look when I can compare with a list
1631194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T12:46:23.9390000-05:00Jim was asking if I could get a corded hammer drill so we could mount stuff to the floor
1632334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T12:47:23.6320000-05:00I have used the ryobi rotary hammer to mount things into the floor, which is much better than any hammer drill
1633334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T12:48:01.5540000-05:00https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-1-2-in-SDS-Plus-Rotary-Hammer-Drill-Tool-Only-P222/206824269 is what we have, should be some sds+ bits in red toolbox
1634316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:03:17.5870000-05:00@AGr the Ryobi rotary hammer is undersized
1635316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:03:28.2790000-05:00We need to be able to do 3/4" holes due to heavy equipment
1636316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:03:55.1270000-05:00I never suggested a hammer drill, though people often use the terms interchangeably
1637334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:04:09.5820000-05:00ah, thats a big hole, what is the anchor strength of something that large?
1638316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:04:27.8110000-05:00Massive, i.e. automotive lift and steel bollards for parking lot
1639316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:05:07.9010000-05:00We have 5-6 bollards left to anchor, move the blacksmithing cage when they get to it, and when machine moves over they will need to anchor some stiff
1640316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:05:20.5640000-05:00And that's before getting into auto
1641547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-28T13:10:44.8250000-05:00probably need 120V AC or air for that sort of work?
1642334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:11:54.0650000-05:00found picture, looks like we rented one when installing lift previously
1643547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-28T13:12:01.9040000-05:00the Ryobi One+ tool was sufficient for anchoring racks in the warehouse, but those were ~1/2" if I recall?
1644334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:12:08.1180000-05:00August 22 2015https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/582994519167991827/8ch59kA_OxOMdW67eD_vZ5UiIOokFPRSVUtfo8lrag7jqm7iN2JVEHyiYDRQ_38NUwrivvZAZTRcRn_NjuXV83twsCLjs8KRTT9s.png?ex=67b96ab4&is=67b81934&hm=bf266399c956dfc2ba031a81dc15594342f05d43f7d3d6a5349e3b6112c4e08d&
1645547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-28T13:12:21.4830000-05:00120V. Interesting.
1646194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T13:16:11.8150000-05:00We could probably get the ryobi for maker projects and the bigger one for space use (read -not available for general public)
1647334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:18:50.9570000-05:00Brings up question of how Pearce wants to handle <$500 purchases, could just request a purchasing officer buy a better rotary hammer right now for ~$300
1648334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:21:27.8020000-05:00($53 per day to rent from home depot)
1649334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:28:19.9590000-05:00crazy that ryobi doesn't make a portable band saw like https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Metalworking/Band-Saws/2729-20
1650334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:31:13.7900000-05:00or a mag drill, I wonder what other more industry oriented vs home gamer tools ryobi doesn't make
1651316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:33:05.8820000-05:00We have that Milwaukee bandsaw in metal, it's awesome. @pearce yeah if we got the bigger one it should be kept in electrical or similar IMHO That Ryobi struggled with 3/8 holes as well when I would use it, and it was a 3/8 that it finally gave out
1652316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:33:59.3870000-05:00Was piloting before trying to do the 3/4" It could have been worn previously or something else but it really doesn't have that much impact
1653194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T13:34:19.2730000-05:00Purchasing is something I wanted to cover at the meeting. Also figuring out why we are in the negative for funds.
1654334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:34:41.2460000-05:00(I'm subtlely trying to give pearce reasons to abandon ryobi)
1655194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T13:35:45.2350000-05:00I get abandoning Ryobi. But we have to contend with people using the tools wrong.
1656316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:36:25.3630000-05:00^^this. You cant beat the cost/wear ratio
1657194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T13:36:35.6600000-05:00I think the other committees could buy the more substantial tools like metal with the Milwaukee stuff, while logistics covers the basic stuff with ryobi
1658316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:36:52.4750000-05:00Metal locks up the good Milwaukee portaband and some other stuff, made a world of difference
1659194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T13:37:04.0080000-05:00Then we don't have to try and train people how to use a drill. We can just deal with the abuse
1660316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-28T13:37:12.1710000-05:00Just have to talk to the committee to get access. Forces accountability. But we can't do that elsewhere
1661334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T13:37:47.8190000-05:00I see 7k for logistics in qbo (incoming bin charge is not in qbo yet)
1662194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T13:38:48.4050000-05:00I still don't have camera access to test. But 3dfab switched to only carrying bright orange filament so they could see it easier on camera. I think the Ryobi green is another good stand out color we can see on camera footage easier
1663300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-28T14:24:07.3860000-05:00@pearce Come by sometime and Freddy or I can get you setup on the new cameras.
1664194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T14:25:06.7450000-05:00Thursday for sure, might be there really late tonight
1665300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-28T14:27:40.8750000-05:00having the logistics meeting during tour night is a bit of a PITA....
1666194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T14:38:29.4150000-05:00Noted
1667334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T16:06:07.5960000-05:00one of the previous attempts at stocking tool wall, doesn't seem like the hand tools last very longhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583038307861135376/DcYWTsHZQKWKjktWbNaZJEvfd3dHVhSoNtWXxIRsLnwu3vAIL1DKa6fjP-0EWKRdVaH2MFb36To8GLf-ErnK4rXp5t9TirlANtcg.png?ex=67b9937c&is=67b841fc&hm=4572551117792f47087461e69ce73615ca113ce8d92b143c8aa0233e1ddad50c&
1668115183069555589125aceat642019-05-28T16:07:25.1180000-05:00perhaps if we have prybars more visible we'll see less... interesting uses of the hand tools
1669115183069555589125aceat642019-05-28T16:09:04.6650000-05:00we could also just buy a truck load of hand tools from HF
1670115183069555589125aceat642019-05-28T16:09:30.2470000-05:001) who would steal HF hand tools 2) flooding the space with a tool worked for pens
1671334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T16:12:26.3850000-05:00Could try an expensive experiment and get https://www.grainger.com/product/WESTWARD-Phillips-Slotted-Square-Recess-1CLG1 and https://www.grainger.com/product/product/WESTWARD-Black-Blue-Foam-Insert-6ZGT9 for $140 x 4 = $560 and see how long they last
1672334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T16:14:40.6720000-05:00vs $30 per set of https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Variety-Screwdriver-Set-25-Piece-H25PCSDS/302348387 or $10 per set of https://www.harborfreight.com/22-pc-screwdriver-set-69420.html
1673334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T16:15:15.6010000-05:00personally I would like to try the order of magnitude more expensive than harbor freight option
1674334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T16:16:47.2950000-05:00I'm going to come up with a tool list option for meeting, likely 10-15k to build out 2 tool walls with all new components and a spare of everything
1675194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T16:38:04.1590000-05:00So they don't have to be matching tool walls.
1676194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T16:38:34.6260000-05:00The interior tool wall won't need stuff like circular saw etc
1677529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-28T20:44:12.9680000-05:00Could we also consider more trash cans in logical locations? Like why do we not have a trash can next to the copier? but there are a half dozen in the kitchen?
1678300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-28T20:44:55.9030000-05:00people move them around...
1679300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-28T20:45:02.8850000-05:00no idea why
1680194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-28T20:52:46.3000000-05:00id just move them, they move all the time. can probably get more
1681334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T20:55:56.8570000-05:00The ones on wheels in galley were all sourced from Uline (available other places, that's just where I bought them last time)
1682334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T20:57:22.9800000-05:00Rubbermaid slim Jim, https://www.uline.com/BL_8792/Slim-Jim-Accessories
1683334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T23:02:14.9530000-05:00Pearce is of course free to run meeting how he likes and isn't bound by this, but figured I would precreate a wiki page for meeting and post some ideas for consideration https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Logistics_Committee_Meeting_20190530
1684334393967015755776agr00902019-05-28T23:02:36.0990000-05:00This is also assuming would be able to get a large allocation from board to fund tool wall and other general improvements (to the tune of 10k), otherwise the $3,200 for pallets and tables is basically the entire remaining logistics balance
1685194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T03:22:17.8460000-05:00Thanks for making an agenda. I was going to do that later today after the landlord walkthrough
1686547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-29T08:25:38.1050000-05:00I get that there are zero *cool kids* points associated with Ryobi, but I doubt that better quality tools would be a better value for DMS given that they're no more immune to abuse that routinely occurs at intervals well under the tool's best-case MTBF
1687547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-29T08:34:05.0690000-05:00within committee areas where the users are seemingly a bit more ... considerate ... than the open workshop is another matter
1688547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-29T08:37:21.9990000-05:00do we want the ~~dumpster fire~~ *drama* of a Talk post or just show up and conspire in person tomorrow evening?trollface (1),dumpsterfire (3)
1689194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T09:54:17.3380000-05:00Feels like a catch 22 on that
1690540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-29T11:54:27.5040000-05:00I'd love to see that talk thread, but I know I wouldn't be able to resist being dragged in.
1691540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-29T11:56:04.2580000-05:00I'm all for nice tools. I don't think we know enough about their resilience to say if they're the better investment. I say we try it and find out. At least that way we'd know for sure
1692334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T11:57:00.3540000-05:00Still working on price list to see how much buying ryobi tools to create an exact mirror tool wall would cost
1693334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T11:57:28.2360000-05:00We can all agree that having more pallet storage would be a benefit right? Therefor we have no choice but to build awesome 4'x8' work tables immediately
1694334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T12:01:15.2870000-05:00In other random questions, can we agree that DMS money (and especially limited logistics money) shouldn't be buying food for volunteers? ```04/30/2019 Expense 44454229NR Domino's Pizza COMMITTEES:Logistics Domino's Pizza 2550.02 Credit Card MASTER 07132018 166.35```
1695385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-29T12:04:56.6300000-05:00when my son was participating in off-siting under Luke Strickland's tenure, they had pizza and everyone went in together on the cost, throwing down a few bucks per person.
1696385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-29T12:05:55.1050000-05:00It definitely wasn't $166 worth of pizza, just a one or two pies.
1697385477767179010049stephenie.2019-05-29T12:06:34.9640000-05:00He had such a good time participating in off-siting, btw.
1698334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T12:08:16.8310000-05:00Was curious how much food that would be, looks like ~12 large pizzas
1699488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:08:25.9340000-05:00I would bet that was for a work day no?
1700334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T12:08:58.0620000-05:00A work day for 30 people?
1701488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:09:01.4830000-05:00I think we should be reminded that feeding volunteers a few slices each is ok
1702488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:09:13.6390000-05:00But not the whole fucking space
1703488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:09:25.5640000-05:00I am not arguing that it is excessive
1704488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:09:37.4240000-05:00But notes and attendees fed mitigate these circumstances
1705488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:10:05.4910000-05:00If the process was that you had to turn in a sheet with who was fed and what was ordered and that was accessible, don't you think that would be a happy middle ground?
1706488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:10:23.5740000-05:00At least you would have actionable data on which to counsel folks about behavior
1707488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:10:53.6820000-05:00As it stand now there was a shit load of pizza ordered and likely nobody knows who consumed or why it was ordered
1708334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T12:11:13.5500000-05:00Will put an agenda item for next board meeting to ban buying any food for volunteers with DMS money so they can decide
1709488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:12:23.0940000-05:00Go for it, I'll speak out in support against it. Making rules to address the exceptions is a terrible plan. Exceptions get dealt with on a case by case basis so that ornerous rules dont get created
1710316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-29T12:13:46.3840000-05:00it's been up already, and was left to committees to decide how to use their funds. You can hope for a different outcome but it's a fairly touchy subject since it's generally the exception and not the norm that a committee is not ok with what happened. I personally used to buy pizza for the metal shop meetings until I got a little tighter on my end, since we didn't want to spend our funds on it. However that's a committee decision on how they maintain their volunteer base and run their meetings
1711300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-29T12:15:58.5800000-05:00I agree with Jim right up until a committee gets a stipend (or whatever we're calling allotments from the General Fund). Then, that ain't your money, and if you're pissing away committee funds on food, AND taking a stipend, one or the other has to go. I'd have zero beef if funds were earmarked for food, and donations accepted, but we aren't doing that.
1712194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T12:53:28.6050000-05:00Party pooper here. I'm not planning on using committee funds to buy food. If someone wants to pitch in for pizza, got for it.👍 (1)
1713488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T12:54:03.0920000-05:00😃
1714488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:03:53.8950000-05:00oh yay
1715488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:03:57.0000000-05:00tornado warning
1716306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-29T13:04:57.8740000-05:00Yup. In the downstairs bathroom with all six pets. 3 dogs and 3 cats.
1717194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:06:05.3820000-05:00Landlord doesn't like the trashy areas around the parking lothttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583355397914624000/JPEG_20190529_130441.jpg?ex=67b9694d&is=67b817cd&hm=f1158b29aaaebe989303d5f523688d4c1c3a141d998c5394139f4e8748b4f8b1&
1718194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:06:22.2180000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583355468202770433/JPEG_20190529_130605.jpg?ex=67b9695d&is=67b817dd&hm=7d55b7e469be1499b7b24170f1fac5279b5f6894182845d4596973d45193181b&
1719115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T13:07:30.1730000-05:00should we even be storing gas like that?
1720194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:07:34.3800000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583355771832631306/JPEG_20190529_130657.jpg?ex=67b969a6&is=67b81826&hm=bded5b4ca1945c0378e71f6858018beec9425f5b85501c4a5191d2eb39d3a338&
1721115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T13:07:49.4940000-05:00yeah, that looks like literal trash around the transformer
1722194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:08:11.2070000-05:00Junk stored outside
1723194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:08:36.1060000-05:00Called out trailers being stored
1724194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:08:40.5010000-05:00Eyesores
1725334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T13:10:15.1860000-05:00is the fence for knife throwing?
1726334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T13:11:23.1710000-05:00should be a bit closer to the flammable containers to make it more exciting
1727194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:12:24.0430000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583356986347880450/JPEG_20190529_130845.jpg?ex=67b96ac7&is=67b81947&hm=18ad213875811f0e92f98124f041526195caa660777a66389e7b05abb1e5abca&
1728540021655909695488michaelb52502019-05-29T13:12:35.2570000-05:00The gas should almost certainly be inside the cage, but no one could find the key.
1729300083517877125121andrew51522019-05-29T13:12:41.2080000-05:00feels like the onion fields back home...
1730488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:13:09.5680000-05:00That gas shouldnt be there in those containers
1731488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:13:26.1780000-05:00it definitely does not belong in the cage
1732194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:13:36.2460000-05:00Dunno why they are there
1733488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:13:55.9830000-05:00aye, not sure where it came from
1734194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:13:56.2200000-05:00But she was commenting on the trash and junk outside not the gas storage
1735488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:14:06.5580000-05:00aye, its terribel
1736488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T13:14:23.8300000-05:00i ran out of time yesterday, meant to pick up all the garbage on the north side
1737194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:14:54.4470000-05:00Understands we have a need for occasionally storing cars for projects. Will be in talks about it
1738194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:15:08.9340000-05:00But not for storage stuff /living in👍 (3)
1739194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T13:16:21.4200000-05:00Also acknowledged that the lease says no storage over night on premises. She was just reporting based on what management saw and didn't like seeing.
1740334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T15:55:11.8590000-05:00https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/18v-one-plus-heat-gun I'm skeptical
1741488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:06:17.6960000-05:00just whyyyyyyyy
1742115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:08:02.5350000-05:00this kills the battery
1743334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T16:09:10.9200000-05:00the battery soldering iron and hot glue gun seem more plausible
1744334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T16:10:06.6370000-05:00getting rough numbers, this list is $6,334 for all new ryobi tool for 2 tool wallshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583401696110182404/unknown.png?ex=67b9946b&is=67b842eb&hm=b34ea72bad7279da6dcabbef8c603018627da9cc45829789b2fe35a1e6cadde4&
1745488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:13:53.8090000-05:00that could be pared down greatly
1746488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:15:06.8800000-05:00i would remove the following, caulk gun, tire inflator, hand vacuum, blower, soldering iron and heat gun
1747115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:15:20.1690000-05:00I agree with that list, but I'd keep the vacuum
1748115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:15:25.0820000-05:00always good to encourage cleaning
1749488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:15:35.1380000-05:00i can go either way on the vacuum, but the rest is garbage imo
1750115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:15:41.0350000-05:00I have the ryobi caulk gun and it kinda sucks imo
1751488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:15:52.0530000-05:00solution in search of a problem
1752488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:16:20.4710000-05:00soldering iron and heat guns hahahahahaaha
1753488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:16:26.2010000-05:00rename those to BATTERY KILLERS
1754115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:16:46.6390000-05:00eh, the soldering iron probably works fairly decent
1755488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:16:56.7320000-05:00get a damn corded one
1756115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:17:02.2300000-05:00those batteries are like 70Wh
1757115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:17:55.2680000-05:00so at ~60W (guessing) that's about an hour of runtime, which isn't bad
1758488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:18:35.0120000-05:00its not but seriously, a soldering iron for crappy use is 15 or 20 dollars
1759488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:19:08.4320000-05:00and i would much rather we buy a few reasonable ADJUSTABLE heat guns vs cordless
1760334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T16:19:54.6900000-05:00https://www.amazon.com/Titanium-Drill-Bit-Set-Metal/dp/B00BSEZOVW bulk chinesium drill bits for $65 a case
1761115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:20:18.1350000-05:00that's not bad, considering we'll snap them before they wear out anyway
1762488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:21:16.2070000-05:00lol
1763488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:21:50.6580000-05:00MASTERCRAP!
1764488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:21:59.5220000-05:00aye, that makes sense
1765115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:22:22.8900000-05:00what would be most useful for us would be automatic sorting of bits
1766115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:23:08.0150000-05:00I wonder if we could print out a ramp than when rolled down, the bits (smallest first) fall into the appropriate holes and into stacks
1767115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:23:26.3140000-05:00ramp/holder
1768334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T16:23:59.8850000-05:00could label all drill bits single use only, and just buy a bunch of them, no sorting needed
1769115183069555589125aceat642019-05-29T16:24:08.0710000-05:00lol
1770488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:24:39.1390000-05:00i think we would be good having a used drill bit bin, if in doubt, toss it in
1771488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-29T16:24:57.4520000-05:00sorting wouldnt be terrible
1772388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-29T16:59:29.1890000-05:00I have 2 of the ryobi 18v glue guns and 1 of the ryobi soldering irons. I'd be down for buy ing a heat gun later once I have some spare fundage.
1773529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-29T17:42:25.5620000-05:00Before shopping for tool wall in new area, do we have an idea of the types of projects to happen over there? I’d kinda vote to not provide for every sort of project known to man ”just in case”. People generating clouds of dust are not going to be welcomed by science, electronics, resin or printmaking. On the other hand, I find it annoying to be unable to locate a decent broom, a dustpan that actually collects the dust, or a trash can when I need it. James H, Anette and I certainly managed to generate mass quantities of wood chips while we were working on those giant printmaking blocks, but cleaning up after ourselves was often a challenge. Once glass is up and running, you’ll have glass shards adding to the floor mess mix, if/when independent mosaic, stained glass, and larger fused glass works start happening. I’ve held a BROOM more frequently than a stinkin’ power drill when I’ve been at the space, but I suspect the power drills might outnumber the brooms. Just sayin...
1774334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T17:45:11.1700000-05:00Pearce mentioned customizing tool wall load out per area, the list I posted above was with the idea that they should be identical tool walls to make administration and replenishment easier, members dont have to guess "oh I have to walk to the other one to get the thing I really need" if they are identical
1775300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-29T17:48:12.7980000-05:00They will be identical for about 30 minutes, until the first dremel grows legs.
1776194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T18:43:50.6720000-05:00So we don't lose the big drill bits. The small ones get broken. We need a surplus of the small ones
1777334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T18:47:42.0650000-05:00There are similar packages on Amazon for just groups of smaller sizes, but the one above has bonus of coming in a case vs needing more hubot drill indexes
1778194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T18:50:49.7610000-05:00Probably a good starter.
1779194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T18:50:56.7850000-05:00Then we restock
1780194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T18:51:36.3540000-05:00You are thinking that the tools being hidden in drawers is causing some of the mess/ loss of tools?
1781194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T18:52:49.0160000-05:00I do want to make separate tool walls based on the area usage, more that the front room one will have a few less heavy duty tools
1782334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T18:58:37.5810000-05:00Hope is having a single obvious place to return tool via foam shadow board or labelled small bin would increase chance of person returning tool
1783334393967015755776agr00902019-05-29T18:59:13.4660000-05:00Having everything visible on wall also helps with quickly seeing what is available for use
1784194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T19:09:03.5190000-05:00Right
1785194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T19:18:11.0370000-05:00Turns out the visual editor doesn't like being edited from mobile. I'll add stuff when I get home
1786194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-29T22:21:24.5480000-05:00made some edits
1787334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T12:10:48.7300000-05:00from the expansion kickoff post it sounds like auto is a fair ways off, so if we are going to put up pallet racks around auto, that wouldn't impact current electrical work
1788334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T12:13:55.0090000-05:00I wonder if it would be useful to ballpark 6-8 months for phase 2, which means moving of woodshop would be a ways out, that impacts how much effort we should put into 104 workshop tool wall / tables today, as 104 workshop tables would be in same spot until woodshop move work starts
1789334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T12:14:37.2060000-05:00Could be an extended time of just auto, laser, woodshop being in 104 workshop
1790194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T12:43:26.8220000-05:00I think the biggest hold up for us is we don't get to put storage up in 102 yet
1791334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:15:51.0840000-05:00why not?
1792334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:20:23.9470000-05:00if things will be in way for expansion, then we can move them out of the way on an as needed basis once the work has actually been scheduled
1793334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:20:32.8890000-05:00otherwise it will be a year before we could put up storage in 102
1794488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:21:43.3020000-05:00the biggest impediment is that expansion has not released the space yet for that purpose and won't do so until more of the electrical work is done
1795334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:22:17.6880000-05:00not released the space yet to store anything there? do we need to move everything out of 102 that is currently stored there?
1796488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:22:31.1370000-05:00no, not released the space to put up racks.
1797488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:22:53.2390000-05:00i suspect there will be more forthcoming on things having to be moved around
1798334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:23:27.7390000-05:00Whats the difference between 3 pallets on the floor and a pallet rack if we are going to move it as needed ourselves?
1799334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:23:55.9740000-05:00As an alternative we could put up the pallet racks in former science + vector floorspace
1800194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T13:25:18.7460000-05:00102 is so full of trash not because other committees are allowed to use it for storage
1801194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T13:26:08.2200000-05:00Woodshop moved all of their broken tools. There's a stack of shitty pallets. Dismantled printers. A laser cutter that should have been sold off already
1802194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T13:26:30.9850000-05:00All of that is going to be in the way of electrical more than stood up pallet racks
1803334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:27:08.2410000-05:00Keep in mind we are paying over $10,000 per month for the 102 warehouse, saying we can't get any benefit from it for 6+ months seems like an inefficient use of DMS resources
1804488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:43:21.2980000-05:00....
1805488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:43:40.6310000-05:00thats a bit disingenous
1806194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T13:45:03.3250000-05:00I would argue that electrical could work around some of the pallet racks. Especially if they get other clutter off the floor
1807334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:48:25.1350000-05:00Putting some of the stuff scattered on the floor onto shelves could actually make more room for electrical work
1808488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:51:01.5930000-05:00I think your alternative of putting racks up in vcc and science areas makes a lot of sense
1809488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T13:51:59.6880000-05:00it would give you a fair bit more storage space
1810194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T13:53:32.8280000-05:00I'm not opposed to racks in old science. But can see an issue with freebie shelf being too close and people shopping the storage shelves
1811194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T13:54:25.6970000-05:00It would be nice to set up the racks in/near their final space though. I don't move them for fun
1812334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T13:57:58.2780000-05:00how else will we get our exercise / workout routine without regular moving of heavy stuff
1813194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:00:26.2590000-05:00I'm not familiar with the activities you speak of
1814545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-30T14:02:44.9670000-05:00That one guy wanted a punching bag, also there are knife throwing festivities happening out back👍 (1)
1815194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:03:23.0930000-05:00Not anymore
1816262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T14:16:58.0980000-05:00We also have a SiG that just started that has an aspect of martial arts in it
1817545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-30T14:41:42.4420000-05:00Telm me it's not a poi spinning group
1818194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:42:18.3210000-05:00It's a hallway defense group
1819316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:42:18.4020000-05:00the rule about putting things next door per expansion is it is on a pallet, or on wheels. These can be moved easily. Storage racks cannot. Woodshop storing busted tools there irks me, as do the busted printers
1820316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:42:47.3450000-05:00the big laser apparently someone has taken upon themselves to do a restoration last I heard; would need to follow up with the chair on that one
1821194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:42:51.8810000-05:00Woodshop storing things on the carts over there bothers me.
1822316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:42:59.5830000-05:00same
1823194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:43:10.9190000-05:00I put the drill press on a pallet
1824194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:43:46.8480000-05:00What I heard about the broken laser was that infrastructure (?) Decided to fix it and sell it for cash?
1825194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:44:08.7210000-05:00We need to just sell it as is and let someone else fix it. This is hoarder mentality
1826316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:44:14.4660000-05:00I'm not aware of Infra making that decision. @StanSimmons @yashsedai can you confirm?
1827316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:44:41.0010000-05:00I agree it just needs to go, but last I heard laser was allowing someone to; they need to just sell it for what they can get
1828194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:44:52.3110000-05:00If it's not a committee trying to fix it, then it's personal storage in 102 and we have another non public sale to deal with as well. I don't think that's the case though
1829488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T14:44:55.1840000-05:00I did not make a decision
1830316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:45:26.6390000-05:00last I heard it was a repair project to put it back into service
1831316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T14:45:41.1710000-05:00but again, that was back like the week after they put the new one into active duty
1832488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T14:45:42.6660000-05:00i do know that tim bene was working on it
1833194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T14:46:08.6330000-05:00@sixvolts_ know anything about busted thunder and the new owner?
1834334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T14:49:00.8230000-05:00Not sure if these prices are any lower, but currently a promotional time for Ryobi at HDhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583743673309593639/IMG_20190530_144521.jpg?ex=67b98169&is=67b82fe9&hm=29cd0e6615812671b3509a315ad95ba8a7f1fc52b57c9e99fc0d9584aa19385d&
1835334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T14:49:07.3160000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583743700933541923/IMG_20190530_144649.jpg?ex=67b9816f&is=67b82fef&hm=d4891749632d37a667196cadce1f45bd53353241fd916b0ce33806ab0505d6b4&
1836334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T14:49:21.9620000-05:0070 for a 6ah battery
1837347190614972039180sixvolts_2019-05-30T14:50:38.4200000-05:00@pearce we are keeping it (provisionally) to fix it up.
1838334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T14:50:51.3750000-05:00Could add electric bolt cutters to tool listhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583744139540299787/IMG_20190530_145028.jpg?ex=67b981d8&is=67b83058&hm=3c54a7cae7f7c262d52bda19fbd973cb89180ace49551fbeb71c7cdde432900f&
1839488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T14:52:52.9320000-05:00lol
1840194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:03:54.7370000-05:00While I don't agree that the electrical workers will move stuff because it's on a pallet I think we can work with the 104 space
1841334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:04:55.3620000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583747682384871454/IMG_20190530_145808.jpg?ex=67b98524&is=67b833a4&hm=7e80f92ae852ee2b4cdf85f03294f5ba4f017d9c05a72d09e8c188e84d01c46d&
1842334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:05:16.1830000-05:003/8 shank rotary hammer at HD for 250
1843488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:07:25.9230000-05:00FYI logistics
1844488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:07:42.2350000-05:00infra is buying a quality rotary hammer that everyone can use
1845488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:07:49.2340000-05:00don't bother spending your funds
1846194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:07:54.8860000-05:00I posted the one @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium asked me about. I have no experience with them
1847194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:08:05.1470000-05:00K. Will be removed then
1848488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:08:15.3970000-05:00Will go get it this weekend
1849488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:08:24.2190000-05:00Its a larger bosch
1850488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:08:40.1690000-05:00the hilti was too much 😛
1851194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:08:48.4370000-05:00300?
1852488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:08:52.2380000-05:00HAHAHAHAHA
1853488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:09:32.8300000-05:00if it was going to get used regularly i would buy this https://www.hilti.com/c/CLS_POWER_TOOLS_7124/CLS_ROTARY_HAMMERS_SDSMAX_7124/CLS_CORDED_ROTARY_HAMMERS_SDSMAX_7124/r1021424
1854488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:09:48.6360000-05:00that retails for close to 1500 😛
1855194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:10:09.4230000-05:00Bit much
1856488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:10:18.8290000-05:00lol
1857488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:10:31.3260000-05:00if you had to use it all day, you would appreciate the active vibration reduction
1858488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:10:58.0290000-05:00as we don't we will go with something cheaper and nearly as functional
1859488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:11:49.4130000-05:00jim smoked those poor prosumer ones
1860194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:12:05.5630000-05:00Having cut apart a 2 door car down to >2 foot sections with a sawzall. Yes I would bet active vibration reduction is worth paying for
1861488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:12:11.0090000-05:00haha
1862316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T15:12:49.9310000-05:00@pearce you should have felt what that HF rotary was like when trying to make the 3/4" holes. I've had better experiences with jackhammers
1863488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:13:03.4240000-05:00haha
1864488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:13:06.7790000-05:00poor Jim
1865194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:13:43.3380000-05:00In Russia, shake weight shakes you!
1866194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:17:16.7080000-05:00So re: evacuate cubesmart- use pallet racks in 0020 to make more shelves in old science/vector. Then use those shelves to move the committee storage and other DMS items from cubesmart to DMS. Potentially use one shelf for locked rack storage to replace the "off site purgatory" storage unit.
1867488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:18:17.6910000-05:00aye
1868194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:21:30.5030000-05:00@AGr if you are still at home Depot, can you brainstorm chain link fence options for making pallet rack doors to lock them somehow?
1869488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:22:12.4220000-05:00May I suggest using some of the already owned expanded metal pieces we have?
1870334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:22:15.0640000-05:00Looked at them, no premade options, question is if it would be door mounted to rack or posts mounted to concrete
1871115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T15:22:25.6480000-05:00expanded metal is usually sharp?
1872488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:22:31.8850000-05:00these are not sharp
1873488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:22:58.9840000-05:00its not expanded metal per se
1874488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:23:26.4240000-05:00trade name is pallet rack wire decking
1875488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:23:48.6970000-05:00a simple tube frame and hinges
1876334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:23:54.9750000-05:00Some kind of role up netting that locks in down position is also possible
1877194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:24:47.2290000-05:00That's probably better than swing out
1878194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:26:09.2930000-05:00At this point I'm more for a prebuilt solution than making one we need to catch up not add project time
1879488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:27:02.1990000-05:00heh, get ready to pay!
1880488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:28:35.0370000-05:00let me know if you want design help
1881488485682184978442yashsedai2019-05-30T15:28:46.2000000-05:00and what size openings are acceptable
1882334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:29:10.0540000-05:00https://www.amazon.com/Containment-Bordering-Basketball-Volleyball-Multipurpose/dp/B013J6ZD0I could be like a curain with steel cable locked on one side
1883262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T15:29:47.0370000-05:00@Lavarocks said "Telm me it's not a poi spinning group" and @pearce said "It's a hallway defense group" .. Yes, we will be learning to guard the Finance office. lol ... actually Medieval Fighting .... https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/12624
1884334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:31:33.7150000-05:00note that there is steel cable and crimping tools / supplies in trebuchet box in offsite storage👍 (1)
1885334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:35:55.5800000-05:00https://www.amazon.com/Topeakmart-Baseball-Softball-Backstop-Practice/dp/B01LCR67OM some kind of locked net across face of pallet rack would be easiest to setup, of course could cut through it with anything, but I'm assuming thats not a big concern, members could cut through anything we put up
1886194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:38:33.0120000-05:00Honestly it doesn't even have to be actual security, if someone cuts into it (vandalism) or attempts to bypass it (b&e) we just ban them
1887300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:45:01.2870000-05:00@pearce Don't believe everything you hear. You will get it half right at best. Some of the guys in Machine Shop want to try repairing it so Laser can keep using it, rather than selling it. The bullshit runs deep in those that don't listen to the whole story... or don't bother to actually talk to other people.
1888194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:46:59.1980000-05:00Thanks? I did ask for clarification. Doesn't change that I think we need to get rid of it instead of keeping it in storage. It's clearly not getting worked on
1889194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:47:23.6080000-05:00Storage in the 102 warehouse no less
1890300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:49:46.3840000-05:00Expansion allows stuff on pallets, and stuff on wheels, both of which can be moved by one volunteer in a timely manner when needed. Racks can not be moved by one volunteer.
1891300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:50:41.2490000-05:00Whoever told you Infra was going to fix the laser and sell it obviously didn't hear the whole story and didn't bother to confirm it. Perhaps they work for CNN👎 (1)
1892194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:51:26.3840000-05:00Right. But volunteer time schedule + bright electrical schedule ( they are doing work for us when they have down time between jobs) means we are going to be a long way out on getting anything done
1893334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:54:53.2070000-05:00We should move the pallet rack uprights not sitting on a pallet out of 102 asap
1894300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:55:13.8840000-05:00If people would show up and help rather than bitch, things might go faster.
1895194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:56:01.3350000-05:00:notsure:
1896300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:56:21.4890000-05:00Joe King and I put all the green rack uprights in 102 on a long pallet last night. They can now be moved by one volunteer with a floor jack and a furniture dolly
1897194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T15:56:48.7030000-05:00I'll see you at off siting then?
1898300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:57:25.7560000-05:00I do plenty around here. Now that you are starting to show up occasionally, you might notice that👎 (1)
1899334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T15:58:45.1340000-05:00I'll PM Radcliff and see what his thoughts are on how to maximize benefit from floorspace while not impedding progress
1900300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T15:59:33.4580000-05:00You might PM Rich Meyers as well, since he is the one getting the electrical taken care of.
1901300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T16:00:27.8690000-05:00Ratcliff is primarily running the ventilation project for the science, glass, jewelry and ceramics areas.
1902194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T16:00:47.3890000-05:00Fuck off with the "showing up" bullshit
1903300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T16:01:50.2620000-05:00Watch the personal attacks there buckwheat.💤 (1),👎 (1)
1904194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T16:07:14.6330000-05:00Maybe the showing up comments would come across better if you didn't live at the space
1905194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T16:07:55.1410000-05:00Don't threaten me with your personal attack bullshit
1906115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T16:08:22.0470000-05:00Stan, first off his comment wasn't a personal attack. Second, you started the convo very adversarial "The bullshit runs deep in those that don't listen to the whole story... or don't bother to actually talk to other people." which wasn't needed
1907115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T16:09:08.3510000-05:00the comment "If people would show up and help rather than bitch, things might go faster." was completely unneeded as well
1908115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T16:10:17.9610000-05:00please consider the tone of your messages and try to keep things constructive and not antagonistic
1909300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-05-30T16:49:43.0620000-05:00@StanSimmons can you stop with the discrediting anyone you don't agree with that isn't at DMS 7 days a week? I can't speak for anyone but myself but it really kills the desire to volunteer when I can.dms (2)
1910115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T16:53:25.1700000-05:00I know for me that it was especially unwelcome _while I was dealing with my wife's cancer_dms (1),☝ (1)
1911194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T18:11:27.7020000-05:00This map isn't right. I'm trying to plan for moving the common room so CA can start the pulling up floorhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/583794635738972160/JPEG_20190530_181001.jpg?ex=67b9b0df&is=67b85f5f&hm=f2eeac5ff96197d970a3ee91c0af19bcfcfc86470ad946e39e9cfc0ec3dacf27&
1912300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T18:26:25.4400000-05:00Seems like the expansion chat channel needs more use 😉
1913300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T18:38:08.1930000-05:00I don't discredit people that aren't up here daily... The ones I discredit and dismiss are the ones that are bitching and moaning about the way things are done, but either don't come to the space at all, or show up very rarely... yet still have strong opinions about how the volunteers that are here should do things.
1914334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T18:38:56.0400000-05:00Sounds dangerously close to advocating for a doocracy☝ (1)
1915300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T18:39:03.2960000-05:00Why is this discussion needed? Can we remove the negativity and get back to topics for tonight's meeting?
1916300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T18:39:22.2630000-05:00There are several people who have paid for DMS memberships for the sole purpose of gaining access to the Hidden Talk forums
1917300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T18:39:43.5990000-05:00Doesn't sound at all applicable to logistics👍 (1)
1918545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-30T18:45:25.3360000-05:00If you pay money for a membership you should have a say.
1919194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T18:48:17.5690000-05:00Stan had a setup for tables so we just need to move them after the meeting
1920194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T19:01:09.3920000-05:00meeting will have live audio via discord general. i will try and field questions from the chat as well.
1921300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T19:04:16.3810000-05:00@Lavarocks Have a say, yes, bitch loud and long about how the people that are up here, actually doing stuff, are doing their volunteering... no, not so much.
1922300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T19:09:13.4850000-05:00Stan it seems you are the only one doing the bitching right now. Can you stop and go back to something more productive?👍 (1)
1923300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-30T19:12:50.7530000-05:00You mean like helping new members sign up, get their keyfobs and get signed up for classes? Yeah.... doing that right now.
1924300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T19:15:11.5570000-05:00Awesome, thanks for that
1925262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T19:16:03.3580000-05:00I think sometimes we have a problem with Backseat Drivers ... I try to ignore them and carry on
1926300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T19:23:30.3640000-05:00Ooh @pearce audio is really spotty
1927300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T19:24:07.2030000-05:00But so far it's only me in there, so not that important 😁
1928194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T19:25:38.4450000-05:00my connection was a bit off but it looks like its better
1929300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T19:26:34.8150000-05:00Yes definitely better
1930300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T19:32:28.3270000-05:00Thank you for broadcasting and Erik for taking minutes!
1931300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T19:37:58.9020000-05:00Coming through good now
1932570472690541002764hardsuit2019-05-30T19:39:22.9630000-05:00https://www.amazon.com/Learniture-Steel-Hardboard-Height-NOR-TY-538-24-4/dp/B06XFWDWTW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=lab+stools+24&qid=1559263123&s=gateway&sprefix=lab+stool&sr=8-3
1933194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T19:39:36.0570000-05:00@Lampy (Ken Purcell) do you know the committee balance for us?
1934570472690541002764hardsuit2019-05-30T19:40:58.8370000-05:00Link for 24" stools with backs:👌 (1)
1935570472690541002764hardsuit2019-05-30T19:41:04.2990000-05:00https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MTBFTXS/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1
1936300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T19:44:34.7280000-05:00As of the 5/20 official report from Kathy, Logistics had 7,496.83
1937300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T19:45:42.5330000-05:00Don't know what has been spent in the last 10 days. Also this may be paid as part of expansion.
1938194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T19:46:27.5670000-05:00the tables might?
1939300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T19:47:00.5620000-05:00I would think so if outfitting the new areas.
1940262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T19:50:47.3560000-05:00I think @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium wanted it
1941262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T19:51:13.7820000-05:00the trebuchet
1942300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:01:00.3890000-05:00They're saying the plan is to list it on Craigslist and sell asap
1943300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T20:05:40.5780000-05:00The large bins are about 4x bigger but depending on what is in them, they may to heavy for some.
1944300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:06:40.3620000-05:00How is payment/rental timeframes going to the tracked and administered?
1945300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T20:08:21.4470000-05:00Science kinda does this. Each regular class has a supplies box for that topic.
1946300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:12:26.5710000-05:00It seems like personal storage boxes work because it's a one time fee. I don't like the big bin idea till someone states how financials and tracking is going to be administered.
1947300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:16:05.2550000-05:00We lost audio again
1948300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:16:37.8960000-05:00Think it's back
1949300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:19:48.7340000-05:00Could it be a monthly fee that is worked into whmcs?
1950300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:20:12.1970000-05:00So when you pay it with your dues?
1951316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-30T20:20:53.1830000-05:00@Draco Couldn't get the new home for the trebuchet setup, so it has to go. I was only offering to re-home it and try to get a team together again.
1952262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:21:21.6840000-05:00I think they are going to put it up on Craigslist
1953300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T20:23:56.6210000-05:00Could move it out to the farm in Caddo Mills.
1954300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:26:42.9190000-05:00Motion and second, time to vote
1955115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T20:38:43.8780000-05:00Live document for the Paid Storage Rules (Draft): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kQ6FkFrAWQK47ukjiZFR-HYuilPMIUxwMxGuTR_JOdo/edit?usp=sharing
1956334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T20:39:03.6530000-05:00I requested a quote from both metals4u and metals supermarket for tables, will forward smallest quote to a procurement officer when they come back
1957115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T20:41:34.3460000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/help-write-a-proposal-for-paid-storage/56826
1958262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:42:25.9740000-05:00I still think storage above the dumpster would be best .. with a dump button
1959262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:43:28.2730000-05:00Why do we off-site?
1960262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:44:15.2360000-05:00as opposed to just dumping it
1961300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-30T20:46:16.3680000-05:00I think optimum design is a slow moving belt to the dumpster
1962300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:47:37.5080000-05:00Should submit a design for review. I'm sure Brandon would help build it 😉
1963306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-05-30T20:47:49.1100000-05:00I liked the really old way of gleefully giggling while trashing people’s stuff but I’m told that resulted in some death threats.
1964262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:48:14.8830000-05:00Why can we not do like other storage places ... just lock it for a month ... we have the storage place AND the place to off-site in 102 .. why not just have lockable storage that we just come by and lock for a month .. then dump
1965262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:48:54.4890000-05:00we could double our storage
1966300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T20:49:12.6780000-05:00That sounds just like Brandon's project purgatory idea and what Pearce is saying about creating a locked area
1967262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:49:57.6670000-05:00*nods*
1968115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T20:50:06.4990000-05:00live doc for storage extension criteria: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EbCLppRVHhIjssnwz0-yFbGV5RfQ5G0HIrxCSwR81qM/edit?usp=sharing
1969115183069555589125aceat642019-05-30T20:51:22.4690000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/help-write-a-proposal-for-project-storage-extensions/56827
1970262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:52:48.0720000-05:00That knife throwing is Hatcher's Armory
1971262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:52:56.7540000-05:00ok
1972262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:53:03.0490000-05:00Yes
1973262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T20:53:21.3810000-05:00I will tell the committee
1974334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T20:55:26.9720000-05:00Have option of picking up pallet jack from HarborFreight for $260 or order it for $312 from uline and have it delivered with the pallets, or a smaller capacity (2 ton instead of 2.5 ton) for $200 from northern tool
1975300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T21:03:37.7410000-05:00Isn't the paint cabinet supposed to be committee storage only? It needs signage stating that
1976300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T21:30:09.8020000-05:00Good job @pearce Thank you for your work on everything!
1977547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-30T22:32:58.7460000-05:00Will look over minutes and notes tommorow to make sure I didn't knacker anything too badly👌 (1),dms (1),🏆 (1)
1978194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T22:43:11.9980000-05:00Thanks for taking minutes Erik
1979300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T23:22:24.6100000-05:00Question about storage... It was mentioned that the big bins are needed so members can store their tools onsite. Is this something that could be somewhat remedied by better equipped tool walls?dms (1)
1980334393967015755776agr00902019-05-30T23:23:33.9070000-05:00No, bringing own tools would always be better than shared tools, especially for things like drill bits or cutting tools😊 (1)
1981300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-30T23:37:25.1400000-05:00Man you could fit a whole lot of drill bits in those black bins 😆
1982194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-30T23:46:00.0670000-05:00Better stock would help, but the bins would be useful for personal tools for sure👍 (1)
1983529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-31T01:06:01.9660000-05:00Like Dremels, since they apparently make a beeline for the exits upon learning that random DMs members will be using them.
1984325498566762299393mizgeek2019-05-31T01:11:38.9920000-05:00They know 😝
1985194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-31T01:15:36.5730000-05:00I forgot I was going to head back to the space after food. I will replace the lock on the lady's room stall tomorrow and move some of the leftovers from the old common room tomorrow
1986529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-31T02:48:08.8190000-05:00Yay! Latchable potty doors! My washers and duct tape fix worked for two months, but...
1987194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-31T02:48:58.6950000-05:00Lol
1988194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-31T02:49:35.8070000-05:00I'd say someone else could hop on it and get it done now, but I put the part in my pocket while moving tables. My bad
1989316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-31T08:15:21.4460000-05:00@AGr do we need a second pallet jack?
1990316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-05-31T08:15:39.3770000-05:00I don't think I've encountered a case where I needed it and it was in use, has anyone else?
1991547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-31T08:20:03.9290000-05:00there has often been the *want* for a second pallet jack
1992547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-31T08:20:36.4760000-05:00this is apt to be stronger with the huge increase in warehouse space and pallet-jack friendly tile floors in the flex area
1993529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-05-31T09:13:32.1240000-05:00Re: potty doors- as previously noted, my washers ‘n duct tape fix lasted TWO MONTHS. Prior to that, it was the “hope nobody dashes in here! Theory for a couple of months. Nobody bothered to “jump on it” in the ensuing time. It wasn’t gonna happen until somebody put the part in their pocket. Just sayin. Thus, you are my hero.dms (2)
1994334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T12:00:05.4790000-05:00Should the overhangs be symmetrical? As drawn here there is 3" overhang on long sides and 9" overhang on the endshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584063556673208360/unknown.png?ex=67b959d3&is=67b80853&hm=9a799e25ced3afff8a89a9164a798fdef25614c25140a58d63a841060173a880&
1995334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T12:00:14.9840000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584063597273939991/unknown.png?ex=67b959dc&is=67b8085c&hm=e15c3f236eae9b26e1057ec9c101a58fbc7840812fc4f923cf0e582a041429ca&
1996334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T12:16:17.7670000-05:00Realized can decrease end overhang to just 6 inches with same material cost, since can get 3 long pieces out of 20' length at 78 inches
1997334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T12:17:03.4370000-05:00Metals4u and metalsupermarket quoted same price +/- 1 dollar for order
1998547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-31T12:57:43.0210000-05:00not trying to *voluntell*, but if Logistics wants the BoD to cough up 12 large for power tools + tool wall, the committee is going to want to have a detailed proposal ready to go
1999334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T13:00:03.9090000-05:00There is a spreadsheet of tool cost that was based on linked to in item, but some discussion in meeting alluded to modifying tool distribution
2000334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T13:20:21.9210000-05:00Doing some napkin math, to store 300 of the 23 gallon bins (assuming 16" wide bins), it they were on shelves 5 high (that would be ~10' high), would take 80' of shelving (not accounting for shelf uprights), note that the 102 warehouse is 72'x119'. So imagine a 10' high wall of storage bins along the entire wall behind new fired arts / jewelry
2001334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T13:21:55.4130000-05:00The entire 102 flex area is 68'x82'think (2)
2002334393967015755776agr00902019-05-31T13:34:05.7600000-05:00All orders have been placed for 2019-05-30 1.1 agenda item, Metals4U for metal, Jwwinco.com for feet, boltdepot.com for couplers and screws, Uline for pallets, will probably have a welding day next saturday
2003300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-31T13:47:03.2000000-05:00The wall behind Ceramics, Jewelry, Glass kilns will have lots of hot kilns firing, with ventilation above them... not too great for plastic tubs.
2004300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-01T11:21:24.9660000-05:00kitty
2005194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-01T11:25:10.6700000-05:00No cats please, woodshop is already killing me with dust
2006194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-01T11:25:39.1460000-05:00I'm beginning to believe the theory that my head would explode if you threw a cat at me
2007262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-01T11:25:49.2550000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584417322857398302/cat_peek.jpg?ex=67b951cb&is=67b8004b&hm=42db79920376507101830459a4c8cf88b315f0885500c5bdd0580458dd3bf556&😃 (3)
2008300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-01T11:29:50.0450000-05:00Oops, was bringing up a terminal program and lost window focus. 😃
2009300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-01T11:31:12.8010000-05:00Multitasking fail
2010529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-01T22:25:53.3980000-05:00@pearce - This is an FYI. I confirmed with Shay and Lara that Logistics can dispose of the large format printers. (mostly just a formality since the individuals who were tasked with doing so obviously have NOT.) Next time y'all go to off-site, can y'all confirm this info?<br>Epson 7880 - 24" width Epson 11880 - 64" width? That's what listed on the CA wiki and
2011194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-01T22:27:23.2640000-05:00Nice. Thank you. We will probably clear out some of the units tomorrow
2012334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T02:15:27.8750000-05:00What would be best finish for plywood work table top? My default would be oil based poly
2013334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T02:15:53.8820000-05:00What kind of paint was used on flex area work tables?
2014334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T02:30:57.6960000-05:00Could also glue 1/4" hardboard on top of lower grade plywood subsrtrate for the work tables
2015540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-02T08:32:05.0670000-05:00I'm still thinking replaceable hardboard tops. Those tops on the older tables have been destroyed and for some reason people arent willing to replace the whole plywood sheet.
2016547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T08:43:35.1280000-05:00The plywood is the most valuable component on the old 4x4 tables
2017334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T09:08:23.3420000-05:00Would hardboard need paint or anything to mitigate water damage?
2018540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-02T09:33:13.2060000-05:00I never had issues when I've use it in the past. There's a glossy side that was good enough. And if it gets really bad, you're out a few bucks for that section
2019334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T09:39:22.6240000-05:00Sounds good, 1/8 or 1/4 thick hardboard?
2020334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T09:40:17.9290000-05:00Will pick up remaining supplies tomorrow to stage for Friday assembly
2021547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T11:06:57.9280000-05:00I'd think that gluing hardboard down would come with its own set of problems replacing it
2022194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T11:07:20.1340000-05:00Right that's why you'd only screw it
2023334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T11:07:38.4680000-05:00Yeah was thinking just using some countersunk screws
2024547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T11:08:28.9300000-05:00excellent
2025302089838222376960alerho2019-06-02T11:12:42.8220000-05:00please no screw heads on top. Can we weld tabs to bottom
2026302089838222376960alerho2019-06-02T11:13:06.4980000-05:00this makes it easier to replace as screw heads dont get gunked up, grinded off , etc
2027302089838222376960alerho2019-06-02T11:13:34.3850000-05:00also screw heads wont mar your workpiece .
2028547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T11:16:14.7150000-05:00how do you propose securing thin material to the strength layer below?
2029547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T11:16:45.7060000-05:00reasonably countersunk screw heads ought avoid damaging work pieces
2030194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T11:21:28.5250000-05:00With 1/4 inch we could counter sink deep enough to make it work. I could see them getting gunked but just break the hard top and grab some pliers
2031547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T11:22:58.1680000-05:00Or use torx head screws, which are tolerant of staggering abuse
2032302089838222376960alerho2019-06-02T11:23:04.2410000-05:00I dont think the hard board is worth the effort
2033302089838222376960alerho2019-06-02T11:23:25.1650000-05:00Say just keep the plywood but just screw it from the bottom
2034547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T11:24:16.1920000-05:00Woodshop can buy its own worktables for *Fine Woodworking* grade projects
2035334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T11:28:36.8850000-05:00Screw from the bottom is the plan for plywood with or without extra hardboard. Thought was to do half hardboard and see what happens, would be easier than applying paint or finish to plywood
2036547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T12:18:42.8080000-05:00Less downtime to implement
2037540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-02T12:18:50.6770000-05:00You can countersink #6 screws into the 1/8", but the 1/4" will be more resistant to warping on the spans between screws. I think it's about 2x more expensive but it's still not bad
2038334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T12:24:23.6960000-05:00http://centralhardwoods.com/products/sheet_goods/hardboard I'm guessing s2s means smooth surface on both sides?
2039540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-02T12:24:26.9100000-05:00The point of the hardboard is to have something a member can replace when someone spills glue or resin on the tops, so they have a nice flat surface to work on. I'm thinking a stack of predrilled tops somewhere that are only expected to last a few weeks each
2040540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-02T12:25:58.7330000-05:00Yeah, S2S is usually used for lumber, surfaced 2 sides or something. All sheet goods would technically be S2S...
2041300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-02T13:15:25.7570000-05:00We're here. Just helping CA for a bit. Let us know when you're here @pearce
2042194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T13:17:31.5670000-05:00Be about 20 mins
2043289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:52:01.1670000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584831533224034304/20190602_144938.jpg?ex=67b9820f&is=67b8308f&hm=e8a08a46cf246676596971067f1c23499a883877ecea689102a07126003b9f1f&
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2046289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:52:47.4480000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584831787784732702/20190602_144209.jpg?ex=67b9824b&is=67b830cb&hm=b5cd314ab1d5f680fc3e576d468a0f5fdff3c0dc18ea45af435e305c00b073b4&
2047289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:52:59.1980000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584831838539874317/20190602_144153.jpg?ex=67b98257&is=67b830d7&hm=fc36c96a1c3797d65cf7a8f84a5c4377172c0ccb6c13fa73c87356e2487cf907&
2048289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:53:10.7130000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584831883704008788/20190602_144146.jpg?ex=67b98262&is=67b830e2&hm=a309bccf68caae61a77f1662c3ec4891e01cdd50cb1baa38177fe7442bf7c583&
2049289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:53:21.1940000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584831928524603392/20190602_144104.jpg?ex=67b9826d&is=67b830ed&hm=589cb9ec95fed64a0dd1adbf76130a5fece452a1b4093f08b1dac665042695f3&
2050289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:53:30.9600000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584831970647867452/20190602_144052.jpg?ex=67b98277&is=67b830f7&hm=3c3b750df8ecab4d6ef75b13d4819371471da77f33cf17a9f241d8c9c49a924a&
2051289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:53:39.9420000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584832017200447488/20190602_144035.jpg?ex=67b98282&is=67b83102&hm=f7f4e9fd6566362bd9f0fb696051ba85b136e58830f4d860a5e2ad11b2182153&
2052289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:54:13.2360000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584832144682123264/20190602_144026.jpg?ex=67b982a0&is=67b83120&hm=da7b5ce99210bdbd527746b72dba8cb78e00a5ebc3ef53c9c6746f16751b8383&
2053289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:54:23.5320000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584832190236327937/20190602_144022.jpg?ex=67b982ab&is=67b8312b&hm=fc2a4a8bbe56d389ce958e7d0c6f5d77bb347f93b7a6a4486cdc2158743d3b75&
2054334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T14:55:14.2720000-05:00Looks like 75% or more with expiration notices
2055289953071306506241roomatologist2019-06-02T14:56:00.1130000-05:00I also took photos before they finished tagging, there's more
2056115183069555589125aceat642019-06-02T16:38:30.0050000-05:00I'm over in 102, ready to move whatever we need
2057334393967015755776agr00902019-06-02T16:45:44.4390000-05:00Can you count the number of 3/4 Birch sheets there?
2058547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-02T17:55:51.5280000-05:00The number of EOL Ryobi tools is distressing
2059194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T18:38:43.3390000-05:00Anyone know what this big metal thing is?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584888659237666837/JPEG_20190602_183823.jpg?ex=67b9b743&is=67b865c3&hm=c3315a6678500c529078d7a17fce2ea48b303249ac4d78c641721f89185be67b&
2060316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-02T18:39:34.4260000-05:00No idea
2061529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-02T18:47:08.4860000-05:00Peg leg for really tall pirate.
2062115183069555589125aceat642019-06-02T19:13:08.1030000-05:00Really heavy scrap metal
2063194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T19:17:56.7190000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium metal wat it for scrap?
2064316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-02T19:18:18.8280000-05:00I'd have to take a look in person
2065316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-02T19:18:32.7420000-05:00Or bring it to me in digital media. Using their chair to take care of my muscle before I leave
2066115183069555589125aceat642019-06-02T19:23:02.5030000-05:00There's no way we're bringing it to you lol
2067194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T20:49:04.4170000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584921463707140109/JPEG_20190602_204851.jpg?ex=67b92d10&is=67b7db90&hm=9cb2618ee5a37882e1b44fffad3e457947e21e53c4914bd396f8a216dbf9e466&
2068194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T20:49:21.9460000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584921536876511242/JPEG_20190602_204906.jpg?ex=67b92d21&is=67b7dba1&hm=8e0afa4ced1bddc4b1933d2789c887b76c96501f0cd0e3c9652c92f61d0610f3&
2069194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T20:50:32.5230000-05:00Clean tableshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584921833078259712/JPEG_20190602_205012.jpg?ex=67b92d68&is=67b7dbe8&hm=de4facafd27cdf9aa8ceb8a42b2faf9e2619b62fe749e689e1ed2f2b0381227c&
2070194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T20:55:48.8890000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/584923159749197848/JPEG_20190602_205539.jpg?ex=67b92ea4&is=67b7dd24&hm=ddb24089732618b17e31f3923ef2a3cf6807446ff13dd3e8bfe93fb972c19fc0&
2071529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-02T21:22:21.6810000-05:00This is the new freebie shelf? Is the pirate peg leg part of the freebie shelf booty?
2072194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T21:23:29.4890000-05:00That's a negative on the leg taller than I am
2073194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-02T21:23:40.5020000-05:00Yes on new shelf
2074529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-02T21:24:21.1920000-05:00👌
2075194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T03:03:59.4680000-05:00Not totally happy with the freebie shelf in it's new location. Might approach laser and see if they want to give up the table by the door so we can put the donation shelf back there since the table is almost always filled with automotive junk storage.
2076371416661040955403talkers2019-06-03T03:05:11.6650000-05:00The table is not usually filled with automotive junk. I use it quite often for classes and projects, as do others
2077194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T03:05:42.1530000-05:00Every time I see it it has auto junk on it
2078194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T03:06:13.8240000-05:00It had scotty B's saddle bags and motorcycle stuff on it for almost a week
2079194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T03:06:32.6250000-05:00And has had air lines and random bits on it for the past few days
2080371416661040955403talkers2019-06-03T03:06:40.4540000-05:00Did all the veneer on the freebee shelf get scooped up? That was nice stuff.
2081194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T03:06:58.2040000-05:00Looked like it. We didn't have to move it over
2082371416661040955403talkers2019-06-03T03:07:09.2740000-05:00K
2083300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-03T10:37:11.3060000-05:00I'm about to request to Talk admins to be added to the Team Logistics tag. Anyone else want that? I can just add you to my request.
2084300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-03T10:37:29.2040000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/g/Team_Logistics?filter=
2085115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T10:37:46.0220000-05:00sure
2086115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T10:38:05.2300000-05:00they should just make @pearce the group owner
2087115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T10:38:08.4540000-05:00then he can add/remove
2088115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T10:38:18.1680000-05:00oh he is
2089115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T10:38:36.8840000-05:00no need to bug admin 😃
2090194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T10:41:50.9710000-05:00Yes it appears I can add members
2091300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-03T10:41:55.6840000-05:00Okay. Bugging Pearce now. Add me please.
2092194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T11:51:01.0580000-05:00@mell added.
2093194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T11:51:05.7250000-05:00Anyone else?
2094115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T11:52:18.3870000-05:00me please
2095194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T11:53:22.0610000-05:00Done👍 (1)
2096547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-03T12:44:08.4390000-05:00not sure if I'm going to be a Logistics regular or just work on the occasional project
2097300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-03T12:47:54.0510000-05:00The part of Dr. Dorian will be played by Eric, while the TurkCarla will be played by Logistics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0im2CW1jVaU
2098227585388544393219axeonos2019-06-03T16:50:50.9590000-05:00I'd say Eric is more like Laverne👍 (1)
2099300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-03T17:16:22.2180000-05:00A pallet of pallets, and a pallet jack on a pallet were delivered today.
2100300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-03T17:16:44.3240000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585230415615230017/20190603_171509.jpg?ex=67b9a40c&is=67b8528c&hm=4cf52cc8945cf102a6f87eecccca7499126f879a3fbdb1b531d7547d0fde670c&
2101334393967015755776agr00902019-06-03T17:17:01.0770000-05:00Thanks
2102194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T17:17:12.0240000-05:00That's so you can lift pallets while you lift pallets
2103547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-03T18:04:34.7100000-05:00man this Eric guy sounds familiar
2104194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T18:05:43.8820000-05:00I get that feeling sometimes too
2105115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T18:06:03.1970000-05:00But if you don't already have a pallet jack how do they deliver the pallet jack?
2106115183069555589125aceat642019-06-03T18:06:35.4220000-05:00This is like the scissors that need scissors to open.
2107194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T18:13:32.2160000-05:00Bigger pallet jack. One pallet on each leg
2108488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-03T23:25:09.1770000-05:00palletjackception
2109227585388544393219axeonos2019-06-03T23:42:11.4150000-05:00in before it becomes some ones 10X10
2110194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-03T23:45:36.8660000-05:00I feel like you missed a unit on the size guide
2111227585388544393219axeonos2019-06-04T00:25:10.1790000-05:00Math was never my strong suit... but phrasing was.
2112334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T08:12:27.2970000-05:00Thinking of trying out linseed oil as finish for work tables
2113547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:04:23.9720000-05:00the *bundling* of Rigid's tools doesn't seem so attractive to us as Ryobi where almost every tool is available bare
2114547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:08:10.8340000-05:00in particular their bundles heavily feature ***highly undesirable*** single-series battery packs. these might work for the casual hobbyist that works leisurely projects during the summer on weekends but at DMS they're not going to hold up to our levels of intense, serial usage.
2115300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T11:09:32.0000000-05:00but if the replacements are free for a lifetime, maybe we don't care how well they hold up?
2116547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:12:46.5120000-05:00In my experience warranties are a pain in the a__ even if the company will stand behind them🤐 (1)
2117547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:13:26.8150000-05:00in Rigid's case, they seem not to apply to *organizations*
2118371416661040955403talkers2019-06-04T11:15:51.6210000-05:00@AGr b oil will not help protect the tables. The simplest finish would be a glossy wipe on poly. That projects against water, oil, grime & easy to apply.👍 (1)
2119300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T11:16:26.8080000-05:00it appears to me rigid clearly does not intend for an organization to be the beneficiary of their generosity... Which isn't to say we couldn't get away with it...for some time...at the possible expense of some sucke....er...benevolent individual's rep with HomeDepot...
2120547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:18:03.3760000-05:00as in whoever gets to be **It** doing the RMAs?👍 (1)
2121388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-04T11:19:52.9980000-05:00which tools are getting "worn" out and what activities are being involved in wearing them out is probably more important to determine than simply switching brands. If we have people using drills when they should be using impact drivers for automotive work, then yeah, wrong tool (but similar shape)
2122388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-04T11:20:38.1970000-05:00ive used my ryobi hammerdrill driver for 3 years (2 of which using it nightly at work replacing battery straps, unbolting rack mounted gear etc) - looks / works the same as day 1.
2123388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-04T11:20:55.6160000-05:00but I dont use it to unstick stuck bolts, thats the impact driver's job
2124547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:22:16.4040000-05:00the typical DIY'er seems not to understand *the impact driver*
2125547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:23:09.8840000-05:00I didn't until I finally used one and realized that it allows flawless application of fasteners under conditions where a drill would be stripping screwheads and leaving you with a sore wrist
2126547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:23:42.2570000-05:00thus, drills see a lot of abuse
2127547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:24:05.1930000-05:00some of that from fasteners, but also from radial stress
2128547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T11:29:18.1100000-05:00The 1/2" impacts see a lot of heavy use from automotive, although those may well be original based on the grime and wear
2129334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T11:33:58.2250000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585506531920052254/IMG_20190604_112743.jpg?ex=67b953b3&is=67b80233&hm=ddca6c9911154285c5e5d1b8b67bd365fbe5beef0539996bea10920bc387cc0b&
2130334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T11:34:17.7260000-05:00Supplies are in for tables
2131115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T11:50:49.5330000-05:00might be worth marking all drills as "for drilling only" and the impacts as "not for drilling"
2132115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T11:50:58.4220000-05:00plus only stocking impact bits
2133334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T11:51:38.1100000-05:00Forgot to put a sign on pieces before leaving, hopefully no one thinks they are on free shelf
2134115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T11:52:11.5260000-05:00there's a big sign saying the freebie shelf moved
2135334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T11:52:33.2310000-05:00Yeah, a whole 3 feet above
2136194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T11:58:00.0510000-05:00Yeah that's potentially bad placement
2137547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T12:11:17.4660000-05:00@aceat64 yeah, I'd just stock impact bits consistently, in quantity, and limit the selection of the short non-impact bits to a single 115-in-one set per year per toolbox
2138529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-04T12:11:51.9260000-05:00I’m here. Want me to tape a few of these on the stash?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585516070794952716/image0.jpg?ex=67b95c95&is=67b80b15&hm=f9d5d41834ebdc39f5461c30c16e47ede7888a94791b37cdb0f66eb46122d83d&dms (1),👌 (2)
2139300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T12:12:45.0490000-05:00Perfect, some people might even read it.
2140334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T12:15:12.4310000-05:00@judy Kriehn that would be awesome thanks
2141529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-04T12:19:01.2630000-05:00Mission accomplished.
2142529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-04T12:19:32.6500000-05:00Can you repost the time your construction party begins? Johnny asked and I only remembered Friday.
2143300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T12:20:27.7940000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/logistics-table-welding-party-6-7-9-30pm/56867
2144547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T13:01:16.8800000-05:00I see the *enthusiast* desire for better tool brands is all too present
2145334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T13:04:08.4610000-05:00metabo or bust!
2146115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T13:04:49.7370000-05:00we should get Wera hand tools (this is a joke)
2147300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:06:15.7050000-05:00Why did Logistics buy a hair dryer?🤣 (3)
2148300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:06:41.7280000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585529878133211148/JPEG_20190604_130630.jpg?ex=67b96971&is=67b817f1&hm=948d9bd8dc30f054b7a8159135bfdb91ad7428802540b3dcd4f55b60de495306&
2149300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T13:07:42.5330000-05:00oh my! I thought you were joking!
2150300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:09:09.9580000-05:00I'm very confused... maybe somebody thought they were buying a heat gun.
2151194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T13:10:19.4950000-05:00Don't know
2152194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T13:10:38.8690000-05:00Can you stash it away unopened until we can figure it out?
2153300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:11:35.1310000-05:00It is in the new common room at the mail station
2154194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T13:13:01.0000000-05:00Can you put it in the server room so we can return it unopened? Unless we get an actual reason for buying it
2155300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:13:30.0600000-05:00sure
2156194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T13:14:15.9210000-05:00Thanks. I'm sure it has a use as a low power heat gun, we just don't have any documentation for it
2157529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-04T13:15:06.0200000-05:00You don't think we should be stylin'?
2158115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T13:16:21.4910000-05:00I prefer to air dry
2159300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:17:53.1960000-05:00Not nuclear fission?
2160115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T13:18:58.9140000-05:00too harsh on my hair
2161300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-04T13:19:33.2900000-05:00He's gotta protect those beautiful blue locks.
2162300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:20:55.1370000-05:00Thats not how he got the beautiful blue glow?
2163300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T13:21:37.7550000-05:00I was thinking he might be plugging the new bike into his helmet. 😉
2164115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T13:22:51.3820000-05:00the blue is actually cherenkov radiation
2165488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-04T13:32:49.8830000-05:00ya
2166488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-04T13:33:08.6440000-05:00about that chrenenkov radiation, no thanks, if you are ionizing air i dont want to be anywhere near you🤣 (1)
2167547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T13:46:58.0700000-05:00smart fella🤣 (1)
2168334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T15:11:22.3540000-05:00Anyone have a cheap metal cutoff saw they could loan logistics for friday? (I think metalshop no longer has one due to constant blade replacement) Would be easier than making 32 cuts by hand
2169334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T15:12:58.4260000-05:00ie something like thishttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585561649029840917/61389_W3.png?ex=67b98708&is=67b83588&hm=941580bc7e64e1db18c4fe3e78a6c86fd834ad3677183c15310e7a405376eb66&
2170547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T15:19:22.6270000-05:00coldcut saw in machine shop not up to snuff?
2171334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T15:20:42.1040000-05:00Ah yeah I guess thats an option, would take longer and it tends to splash coolant everywhere, but would make excessively accurate cuts
2172300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T15:23:04.9930000-05:00https://www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-7-1-4-in-x-48-TPI-Cermet-Steel-Demon-Ferrous-Metal-Cutting-Saw-Blade-D0748CFR/307789803 ?
2173194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T15:29:58.3420000-05:00metal has a handbandsaw thats awesome
2174194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T15:30:06.9340000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium
2175316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T15:32:07.4510000-05:00we have a few options: horizontal bandsaw, a milwaukee portaband, diamond cutoff wheels for grinders, and a hand plasma👍 (1)
2176316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T15:46:35.0100000-05:00also @AGr if you do borrow a saw like that, there may be a 14" diamond wheel stashed somewhere that was procured before the saw was not replaced on its last failure
2177316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T15:46:50.6450000-05:00can look when I'm there next, or ping me and I'll give you a few places to check
2178300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T17:28:23.9360000-05:00I've compiled a list of stuff I've been getting from Costco in a Google Sheet. It has sku, online and instore pricing. Orders over $75 have free shipping. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NC6S_ellZ3gdsDOnKSIel6jeTlJhKhnh6pMfwii109o/edit?usp=sharing
2179300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T17:29:16.4350000-05:00@pearce do you want me to continue picking up paper goods at Costco.?We are very low on several items
2180547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T20:53:53.6540000-05:00If anyone wants to help build a list of *workshop* hand tools, tooling, and consumables ... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15sCA3-EgHap908s7s9YKwSRpb29p9uMR-2FIA3WNo3g/edit?usp=sharing
2181306540648234876928sewingstuff25612019-06-04T20:55:35.9650000-05:00What if I just want to argue about it?😆 (1)
2182334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T20:57:01.8010000-05:00Are there things we don't currently have on tool wall or the red toolbox that would need to be added?
2183547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T20:58:30.0860000-05:00My idea here is to nail down what goes into the toolbox/wall/whatnot
2184334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T20:59:26.9890000-05:00Punches, files, consumables like tape, zip ties, hot glue sticks?
2185547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T20:59:39.2410000-05:00The inventory in the current toolbox is leftovers from an apparent long period of neglect
2186547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:00:08.8700000-05:00Whatever goes into the workshop on Logi budget and serves a wide variety of use cases
2187547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:00:51.3900000-05:00So of those, files and tape ... sure. Not so certaim about zipties (auto tends to stock those) and glue sticks.
2188334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T21:01:02.8010000-05:00List is already better than my haphazard few Amazon links
2189547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:01:07.9890000-05:00Punches probably
2190547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:01:25.7270000-05:00It's clearly incomplete
2191547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:01:34.0830000-05:00But also some deliberate omissions
2192547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:01:44.4560000-05:00Like sockets since automotive has those
2193547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:02:34.9350000-05:00Also hesitant to stock many screwdriver bits, thus the common impact bits
2194334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T21:02:41.6780000-05:00Could also bring up the idea I once tried of free for members screws / bolts as consumables, but those are easier to abuse
2195547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:03:09.8340000-05:00If we stocked screws they'd be the absolute cheapest: *drywall screws*
2196547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:03:43.3020000-05:00If someone wants stainless grip-rite torx screws they can go to the despot on their own dime
2197547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:04:26.8560000-05:00Drill bits ... not gonna enumerate those since we buy those by the kilo
2198547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:06:47.8000000-05:00Should maybe stock some quality quality harbor freight flashlights. Think they sell the COB LED lights for cheap enough now - they spit out more lumens than the trrrrrrrbllllll 9-LED versions.
2199547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:08:09.9980000-05:00Broom station. Blue paper towels. Big stack of PPE was donated - and maybe not all walked off.
2200547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-04T21:09:01.9240000-05:00As much as Ferman loves Rigid, they're surely not going to be cost-effective for workshops
2201316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T22:08:40.7610000-05:00Anyone know where the pop up tent went?
2202115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T22:13:04.2780000-05:00it's in committee storage
2203115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T22:13:10.4790000-05:00bottom shelf/floor
2204115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T22:13:48.4510000-05:00wedged between some stuff iirc
2205334393967015755776agr00902019-06-04T22:23:28.6410000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585669983523045407/JPEG_20190602_204906.png?ex=67b9432d&is=67b7f1ad&hm=1261e6e0ba07399f38e51fce867f8fdc5a4c0779a42a109bad4a18efc7684fa3&
2206115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T22:35:39.8100000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585673064306442240/JPEG_20190602_204906.png?ex=67b9460b&is=67b7f48b&hm=97d0274fd40cdd78e4fbbb98b4405427d89210aa74d2baf61ee2a9083e5c85e9&
2207316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:42:22.9540000-05:00Yeah had found it
2208316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:42:35.5830000-05:00Now anyone know where the new airhoses had gone?
2209316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:42:56.5650000-05:00Also looks like one of my posts didn't succeedhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585689994941956106/IMG_20190604_214912.jpg?ex=67b955d0&is=67b80450&hm=fa122edce9880c68af37a4897025519b99400fdad35304d1c0b98cd6d7bc45d1&
2210316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:42:59.6680000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585690007696834560/IMG_20190604_214915.jpg?ex=67b955d3&is=67b80453&hm=d433ebc9aa276e682248986d90f56668e30d61630c8145fc689f1637a472da64&
2211316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:43:08.3170000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585690044392669214/IMG_20190604_214918.jpg?ex=67b955dc&is=67b8045c&hm=c2a2d7401e6b5b4feed342b6369625e3ebe4014daadb69162585a70bd931d832&
2212194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T23:43:08.8900000-05:00the ones on the laser table?
2213316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:43:12.9270000-05:00Look what was at the freebie shelf
2214316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:43:15.4600000-05:00Yeah those ones
2215194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T23:43:18.3040000-05:00we dont know what that is about
2216194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T23:43:35.6030000-05:00it was there before the shelf got there so it wasnt dropped off
2217316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:44:35.8960000-05:00But anyway ant idea on those hoses?
2218194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T23:44:48.6490000-05:00last known spot was on the laser tables
2219194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T23:44:56.1670000-05:00might have moved to 102?
2220316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:45:24.7790000-05:00Found one
2221316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:45:29.7880000-05:00On automotive shelf
2222316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:45:44.3180000-05:00But not with the fittings
2223316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-04T23:45:52.1790000-05:00Will check next door
2224115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T23:46:38.4490000-05:00I'd really like to know who thought it was cool to leave a bucket of battery acid
2225115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T23:46:57.4850000-05:00it was kinda hidden away on the shelf when we found it
2226300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T23:47:38.6550000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585691173818204160/iu.png?ex=67b956e9&is=67b80569&hm=036a66a51e43ed9e7b0c2f7efbb549a29d77cd37c4aff19f0bd3b4d8d5667aac&
2227115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T23:47:52.6450000-05:00I'd also like to know _how_ they got a bucket of battery acid lol
2228115183069555589125aceat642019-06-04T23:48:25.1240000-05:00I'm guessing from a car battery
2229194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-04T23:48:26.2900000-05:00white bucket was inside the yellow one
2230227585388544393219axeonos2019-06-05T10:40:55.0420000-05:00@pearce do you want Stan to get Costco shit? Forks and bowls and shit?
2231115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:06:57.0630000-05:00does Parks stock anything that requires utensils/bowls/etc?
2232547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-05T11:10:34.3320000-05:00I'd say paper towels, toilet paper, any loose soap that we still stock
2233300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-05T11:12:44.3990000-05:00isn't cintas doing paper towels and toilet paper?
2234300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T11:13:38.3860000-05:00Paper towels at sinks only. not for general use in the shop, though people have been grabbing the big cintas rolls and taking them out there
2235300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T11:14:02.8130000-05:00the TP is of the John Wayne variety...
2236300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-05T11:14:04.5930000-05:00well, sure.
2237115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:14:07.6900000-05:00do we have a copy of the contract so we can see what all is being paid for?
2238300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T11:14:30.0530000-05:00I've never seen it,
2239115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:16:05.0800000-05:00the only board minutes I'm finding for cintas are old ones about the first aid
2240115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:16:20.1260000-05:00was it done at the committee level?
2241300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T11:17:58.1720000-05:00Dunno, never saw it. @pearce might want to check with the previous chair/vice-chair
2242529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T11:21:23.5530000-05:00Totally off topic, but do the animations (spinning heads, etc) indicate an admin?
2243115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:21:41.6020000-05:00nah, if you have discord nitro you can have an animated avatar
2244115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:21:48.6390000-05:00so it just means I paid money to Discord
2245115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:22:18.5770000-05:00it also lets me use emojis from other discord servers
2246115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:23:00.2660000-05:00:dogdance: like this one
2247529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T11:25:25.6730000-05:00What the heck is that? A twerking pit bull?
2248115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:27:47.8940000-05:00dunno, I picked a random one from another server lol
2249529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T11:29:06.8820000-05:00It's so puny on my laptop screen, that it sorta looks like a dog, sorta like a polar bear, sorta like those dinosaurs-that-look-vaguely-hippo-like...
2250115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T11:30:03.5490000-05:00:think:
2251300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-05T11:30:52.7780000-05:00Yeah. I have "hover" over them, and try to decipher the intent from the popup
2252529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T11:34:54.9060000-05:00Andrew's spinning head keeps making me think of the pea-soup-spewing scene in The Exorcist💯 (1)
2253316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-05T12:47:15.3680000-05:00Cintas was done at a committee level IIRC
2254316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-05T12:47:42.0380000-05:00I had made a complaint about the "shell shock" crap they replaced the summit hand scrub with
2255316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-05T12:48:26.9230000-05:00It's bad enough that multiple bottles of the summit stuff were broken open so people could use them. Cintas removed our dispenser from the wall to install theirs
2256316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-05T12:49:10.9360000-05:00I personally have a personal little squeeze bottle of the stuff, but it shows how much people dislike the new stuff. Their sanitary soap / paper towel dispensers are nice, but the tp and scrub are terrible
2257194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T12:54:21.1210000-05:00@StanSimmons your list doesn't have # to be purchased, can you make it editable?
2258300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T13:12:00.4480000-05:00@pearce your gmail and dallasmakerspace accounts can edit it now
2259115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:31:08.3150000-05:00I've put together a Trello team and board for Logistics, it's publicly viewable. To join either request it via the website/app or let me know your Trello username/email. https://trello.com/dmslogistics
2260115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:31:12.1290000-05:00Pinned a message.
2261334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T13:37:59.8940000-05:00I'm not seeing how to request joining team on teh site
2262547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-05T13:40:09.9490000-05:00another tool, another set of credentials ...
2263334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T13:40:29.2750000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585900763163656230/unknown.png?ex=67b9715b&is=67b81fdb&hm=daf59a4a709f96d3f8210d13f41824954eda9eba36b7e6249135669232d0627b&
2264194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T13:41:12.1660000-05:00I'm really bad about checking trellos but I've seen people do good work with them
2265194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T13:41:34.4240000-05:00The space has a few other trellos as well.
2266194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T13:42:32.6720000-05:00Does Trello have a way to make "projects" that are basically separate boards for each one but all in the same place? Kinda like discord here with the text channel for each committee
2267194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T13:43:06.4540000-05:00If so DMS could probably benefit from a consolidated trello
2268115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:47:09.4990000-05:00looks like I have to add you, I thought there was a request access button
2269115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:47:38.8040000-05:00@pearce it does, I've created a team, we can have multiple boards
2270115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:47:46.3860000-05:00right now we just have the "General Tasks" board
2271115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:47:53.1510000-05:00but we can totally make boards for big projects
2272194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T13:48:28.1420000-05:00We might see if we can talk one of the more invested boards like PR into mutating into a DMS board so they don't lose work
2273334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T13:48:48.9700000-05:00found a blog post that mentions self joining a board once you are already a member of that team
2274194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T13:49:02.1490000-05:00Oh I was referring to committees as projects
2275115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:50:14.5270000-05:00Trello have a concept of organizations, but that's a paid feature
2276115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:50:33.2720000-05:00Orgs > Teams > Boards > Cards
2277334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T13:50:36.5460000-05:00https://help.trello.com/article/1024-invite-people-by-using-a-shareable-link
2278115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T13:52:49.1700000-05:00https://trello.com/invite/b/YbWzPngQ/b95660e58bdc867a10cba639d04fb9a0/general-tasks
2279300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-05T14:03:02.1770000-05:00I used Trello when I was PR chair and IMO it was the perfect tool for what I needed. I didn't have a huge PR team but that was primarily how we communicated that designs were ready to go out or that orders were placed, etc. Had links to all working documents. And I posted the read only version to TALK.
2280325498566762299393mizgeek2019-06-05T14:05:53.1730000-05:00I use Trello to organize sewing patterns and ToDo lists. It’s very flexible.
2281325498566762299393mizgeek2019-06-05T14:06:32.1910000-05:00My best friend and I can easily share our lists plus keep track of videos we each have.
2282115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T14:20:16.1690000-05:00@AGr I added you to the table card
2283488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:37:22.2390000-05:00*waves hand*
2284115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T14:37:32.9230000-05:00Ok, anyone who joins via the invite link I can add to team easily: https://trello.com/invite/b/YbWzPngQ/b95660e58bdc867a10cba639d04fb9a0/general-tasks
2285115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T14:37:36.5650000-05:00Pinned a message.
2286488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:37:46.5510000-05:00lol got it
2287115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T14:37:54.3390000-05:00just added you
2288488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:38:09.2390000-05:00ty
2289300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:42:28.1590000-05:00@pearce I just saw your response on Talk in the PM thread. If you don't want me doing the Costco runs, that's fine, but don't lie about it.
2290194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:43:57.6880000-05:00I told you twice when you asked me in person that you could buy papergoods if we were running out and that we would figure out how to to proceed with ordering on a subscription later.
2291300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:44:11.9070000-05:00No you did not
2292300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:44:24.0610000-05:00You may have meant to, but you did not
2293194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:44:55.6740000-05:00Once in 3d fab when you approached me while fixing printers and another time in the kitchen.
2294194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:45:19.6350000-05:00You mentioned people were stealing the cintas paper towels to take to the workshop
2295300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:45:24.5160000-05:00In the 3d lab, you told me to wait for the meeting.
2296194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:46:08.7350000-05:00Here's the listening problem, I told you to buy what was low to hold us over. And then we would figure out the rest at the meeting
2297300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:46:48.4920000-05:00When I told you about the paper towels you told me to pick some up while I was out. I picked up some at Home Depot when we got CA's flooring
2298194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:46:56.2840000-05:00But if this is how you are going to handle procurement, no I do not want you ordering for logistics
2299488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:47:18.4320000-05:00*sigh*
2300300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:47:39.6310000-05:00Don't get your back up over poor communications.
2301300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:48:33.9820000-05:00I'm offering to help you out, doing stuff I've been doing for 2+ years and you are being a dick about it
2302488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:48:52.9210000-05:00Can we chock it up to failed communication and misunderstanding?💯 (2),dms (1)
2303488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:49:10.9240000-05:00Fact, we need paper goods
2304488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T14:49:19.1920000-05:00Fact, members get unhappy when we don't have them
2305194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:52:34.6700000-05:00I'm going to take care of it this afternoon
2306300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T14:52:35.2420000-05:00I added DMS to my Costco account 5-6 years ago. If you don't want me to keep using it, fine... less shit for me to deal with.
2307194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T14:55:44.9390000-05:00Sounds like a plan
2308300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T15:06:34.6310000-05:00FYI: don't order forks from ULine. they are short, weak and overpriced
2309334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T15:25:21.3380000-05:00https://www.cutting-mats.net/cutting-mats-4x8.html
2310488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T15:25:47.9610000-05:00Good grief those are expensive
2311334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T15:25:51.9020000-05:00Will be interesting to compare how the $14 hardboard holds up, would be $200 for a 4x8 cutting mat
2312334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T15:26:44.8180000-05:00There is a mat on one of the 5x10 tables that's been there for a few years
2313194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T15:28:23.1320000-05:00Yeah that's why it was really upsetting when they got destroyed in the first week after donation
2314547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-05T15:30:35.1040000-05:00DMS workshop is a *hostile environment*
2315488485682184978442yashsedai2019-06-05T15:30:44.4720000-05:00haha
2316547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-05T15:33:39.1520000-05:00they've had some hardboard floor protectors in the lobby of my building for about a month for ongoing renovations and they've held up well ... *shiny side **down***
2317300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T15:44:12.0900000-05:00FYI: Cintas Defib machine is beeping.
2318545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-05T16:03:10.1790000-05:00Stop poking it
2319115183069555589125aceat642019-06-05T16:04:47.8320000-05:00probably just low battery, iirc we have to charge it from time to time
2320547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-05T16:07:05.4960000-05:00I'd expect a primary cell
2321300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-05T16:18:42.9370000-05:00Cintas replaces the battery occasionally and had done so withing the last few months
2322194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T16:38:56.4020000-05:00Purchased some stuff from Costco. Will be at the space later tonight
2323194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T16:39:23.6460000-05:00Should hold us over until an order can be madehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/585945793127645227/JPEG_20190605_163858.jpg?ex=67b99b4b&is=67b849cb&hm=8c783e60f45bba22bf5c6e9ab394e881b898599e0fb6395640cce322b7caecaf&
2324540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-05T22:28:24.3530000-05:00Anyone plan on fixing a busted roboreel? The one that used to hang near automotive. Not sure why we didn't just toss it..
2325194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T22:31:46.0610000-05:00i diddnt think we coould fix them
2326529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T22:33:36.3540000-05:00Can we fix the bathroom stall door in the original women's restroom? Pleeezzzeee?
2327194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T22:33:52.2290000-05:00tonight, sorry absent minded
2328540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-05T22:38:25.7220000-05:00@canibalcrab I agree. Trash it is
2329334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T23:29:32.4340000-05:00Brings up electrical drop install in new areas, are we planning on having reels or only plugs at 7 or 8 feet you plug into?
2330334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T23:30:47.3250000-05:00Would be nice to use same approach in all places and replace roboreels with whatever common approach
2331334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T23:32:15.4860000-05:00Of course that's just electrical not air, ceiling mount air robo reels seem good, since you aren't pulling as hard on ceiling tile grid (no matter how well it's secured to roof structure)
2332540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-05T23:34:25.0750000-05:00Rich has a standard drop he's planning on using throughout the space, it's a twist lock plug on the cieling to a quad outlet box, the idea is to build a bunch in different lengths and have plugs around the flex area
2333540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-05T23:34:33.4570000-05:00Not sure what's happening in the warehouse
2334334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T23:35:53.7940000-05:00So the quad box is on a table or floor or floating in air?
2335540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-05T23:38:25.3460000-05:00Good point, I'm not sure. He might be using it for fixed equipment where it can go on the floor. I assume we could make some to sit on tables.
2336334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T23:39:18.6840000-05:00Plausible, my drive by criticism would be these boxes would be hanging down in the way always and you'd need a ladder to disconnect them
2337540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-05T23:40:28.8390000-05:00Yeah, I assume that's been considered so I might be missing something from his explanation
2338194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-05T23:40:30.4020000-05:00box is mounted to roof, cords of various lengths are so you can do floor/table boxes
2339334393967015755776agr00902019-06-05T23:42:26.5610000-05:00Do we still have a couple new roboreels sitting in boxes for the past 2 years or did they get used?
2340529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T00:00:35.9400000-05:00My understanding was that roof anchors would be installed to extend from the building roof to the drop ceiling at locations where the suspension grid intersect. The twist-lock plug boxes would be installed at the ceiling, and the variously sized drops would allow for connections where needed, without gigantic pools of cable to be trip-hazards on the floor. (I'm attempting to describe the drop by the big table in CA.)
2341194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T02:09:18.3780000-05:00Well that was uneventful. Just had to go to machine shop and get a bolt from the shelves. Didn't even need the drillhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586089216480641024/JPEG_20190606_020838.jpg?ex=67b9781e&is=67b8269e&hm=1e5cd73af9feab5309e6bbadd56154382240674f2786cf518288d95e9a813ad3&dms (3),😀 (1)
2342316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-06T02:57:21.3550000-05:00@pearce I've repaired the robowheels before. The biggest issue that I couldn't fix was damaging the remotes. However, they are actually wireless and don'
2343316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-06T02:57:30.9950000-05:00t need to be on the cable. Could inlay them into the table sides
2344194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T02:57:38.0340000-05:00cool
2345194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T02:57:57.7290000-05:00sounds like it might have been tossed
2346547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T07:17:34.7290000-05:00@michaelb RMA it since RoboReel has such an ***awesome*** warranty?
2347300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T07:21:09.3910000-05:00http://roboreel.com/policy/warranty/ 4 years, 4k winds, whichever comes first...
2348547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T07:45:50.6020000-05:00it's not that I don't believe in warranties, it's just that outside of extraordinarily expensive goods like cars - where there's often *service revenue* associated with working on it - they've been nothing but a bitter disappointment for me
2349547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T07:47:55.2910000-05:00which, incidentally, as much as I loathe car dealers this *is* a grudging argument for their existence as an independent entity - they've got more leverage extracting concessions from the OEM on your behalf than you do👍 (1)
2350300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T07:49:10.6500000-05:00Yep. I've largely come to regard warranties as _bog fodder_
2351547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T07:54:43.2450000-05:00Although I do hear that despite their lack of terms in the published literature, Ruger stands behind their product like no other manufacturer
2352300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-06T09:19:32.2890000-05:00Ruger has OUTSTANDING customer support. Amazingly, KelTec does as well. Smith & Wesson I've had issues with.
2353540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-06T10:09:49.3490000-05:00Yeah, it's in the trash. Its been down for a month, so I figured no one was going to try and fix it. I'll keep the RMA in mind next time.
2354547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T10:12:47.2760000-05:00for all the hoopla about RoboReels, my sense is that the basic spring reels have lower TCO even if they need to be replaced or serviced more frequently
2355547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T10:20:35.6770000-05:00one wonders if the twistlock ceiling drops and hardwired pigtails will fare any better. at least we can service the pigtails on the other side of the outlet on our own.
2356334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:21:45.7150000-05:00Didn't we start out having these? How long did they last? https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660257_200660257
2357334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:22:39.3730000-05:00October 2014https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586213358064369690/odwbBhDcP7fUeZI-s6eA6wwLznGuE_cV6kaOAjFK4-L8rkfQpJyKYVb3nv3cKQeaPUlO7UdIFl-fgHJpSA2r2HISImqxO_-Mm6Gt.png?ex=67b942fb&is=67b7f17b&hm=1221d50d5d1d04b1a7af98eb01b1ab0840c8d144e289d84ed956104d49e3faf9&
2358334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:23:11.9560000-05:00maybe we took them down after work tables weren't clustered around columns like original design plan, dont recall
2359547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T10:23:19.3830000-05:00I recall the basic spring reels lasting a long time
2360547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T10:23:48.0640000-05:00not sure if it was those or one of the cheaper 'zon brands
2361334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:23:48.6070000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586213647684993045/CD6CUQFno5iSvqTdWg8aDmVLTGckgFSFBNNz1h5G9mQ03QCKiz-FREd8k0IPUr-h_OgVVZHC_gzo70_F3dH5sZ6WJ59V97lB0qG3.png?ex=67b94340&is=67b7f1c0&hm=c909f957cc7092c69530f306f38caf04f9ed767810256b85b6790cd19d9516ed&
2362334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:24:26.9970000-05:00I wonder how well mounting one of those to celing the same way I mounted the robo reels would work
2363334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:26:52.0020000-05:00Is the next logistics meeting scheduled? I can put an item to purchase air and power reels above 104 workshop general tables
2364334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T10:29:52.3330000-05:00Now that we have the lift on site, could mount pole directly to girder down through ceiling tiles, then have wires off that pole to steady lateral movement
2365300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-06T10:31:19.7130000-05:00We could set a quick meeting before offsiting on Sunday? I know Sundays are already packed for @pearce though.
2366300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-06T10:32:28.3290000-05:00Rich Myers bought a pole that is designed to attach wires to the girders from the floor, you don't even have to get the lift out. It is in the 102 server room, with the clips for the girders. Let me or Rich know if you want to use it, that way you won't have to move a bunch of stuff out of the way to get the lift in place.
2367194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T11:08:19.2990000-05:00@AGr the reason we wanted to try the roboreels was because the red wall mounted ones whipped around all the time. It was pretty dangerous
2368194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T11:09:32.0430000-05:00We should get a meeting scheduled before the next board meeting. So before the 22nd?
2369334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T11:16:29.0610000-05:00yeah, but everyone complains about buying roboreels (~300), we could spend even more on reelcraft reels (400)
2370194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T11:17:26.1400000-05:00I know. You just asked why we switched
2371334393967015755776agr00902019-06-06T11:18:02.8360000-05:00I dont remember if the cheap power reels we had originally actually failed or not before we got rid of them
2372194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T11:18:25.2390000-05:00One might have broken
2373194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-06T11:18:46.2980000-05:00I only remember people just letting them fly
2374300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T11:52:28.8300000-05:00https://www.hydropneumatic.net/pneumatic-hose-reel-with-slow-retraction.html
2375300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T11:53:12.6850000-05:00made in sweden, so you know those'll be cheap... Wonder how they do it, though...
2376300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T11:56:05.3810000-05:00https://hosereelsdirect.co/hosereels/ez-t-series another, probably not made in sweden...
2377540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-06T11:58:21.1820000-05:00I mean they look good, easily replaceable hoses, slow retraction.
2378529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T11:59:27.0300000-05:00Unrelated to the momentary obsession with retracting air hoses, I went to the UNT Surplus Sale on Tuesday and scored four of these swivel-top stools for the budget-busting price of $10/each. They’re aren’t new, in fact NTSU is scribbled in marks-a-lot on the bottom of the seats, which means they are at least 31 years old. But sturdy as all get-out. Pearce indicated I should ask y’all if you think they are appropriate for the space. I took one into the flex area last night and used it while I finish scanning bins. Perfect height for me. I estimate they are the same height as the stool that Paul brought into the meeting last week. Or maybe it was the week before... If logistics wants these, I have a receipt for the purchase. If not, I retrieve the one I left in 102 and use them elsewhere in my life. No harm, no foul.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586237723631812609/image0.jpg?ex=67b959ad&is=67b8082d&hm=b48282be921a6b3f54883a0188ce9b4aa4809a860925e3ad45617079de532ab7&
2379529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:03:30.6730000-05:00And as far as the air hose situation goes, is life as we know it today going to come to a screeching halt if we don’t remedy a problem RIGHTTHISMINUTE? From what I’ve seen, they’ve been crappy/dysfunctional for some time. Maybe we should focus on fixing the stuff we’re already committed to before we add MORE stuff to Pearce’s plate?
2380547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-06T12:06:13.9020000-05:00those look fabulous for workshop usage
2381300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:08:12.4900000-05:00I love those stools, and remember them fondly (maybe even those particular ones, as a former attendee of NTSU, er, UNT)... I so regret watching the current regime throw out perfectly good stuff just 'cause it's old. Dumpsters and pallets of shit that just. still. works. getting tossed in favor of junque... sigh.... sorry. Particularly downer day. Rainbows and unicorns and myspace! OHMY!😂 (1)
2382529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:23:24.5250000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586243755183570944/image0.jpg?ex=67b95f4b&is=67b80dcb&hm=dc22c53dad76e7ae0d43a2c7721b2e33bc4a443697c4fffbc92f3777c7f2b09f&
2383529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:23:59.5080000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586243897987170317/image0.jpg?ex=67b95f6d&is=67b80ded&hm=23c7ecfa953a83ab48712c0206a57341346f49c2b2b340564380629eebace451&
2384529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:24:19.6370000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586243985094213643/image0.jpg?ex=67b95f81&is=67b80e01&hm=3977e636b5c9e2bb76769393d6c6b78aca765ee11a04dfbe6dd4625149cc3f24&
2385529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:24:51.1240000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586244114652332062/image0.jpg?ex=67b95fa0&is=67b80e20&hm=e8b3b59d71ea81d59b59eece7e238438e70c74df7d7c83ae4b562c661750a2d2&
2386529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:25:06.9770000-05:00Salivating much, Andrew?
2387300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:27:29.5910000-05:00indeed. in fact, I recall using those worktables. In p-lab and c-lab, if I recall properly. great equipment!
2388529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-06T12:32:20.1630000-05:00Solid oak legs. $35. If only I had a larger house. Or was outfitting my own biology lab.
2389300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:36:24.3890000-05:00yep. if only.
2390300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:37:33.6320000-05:00i'll confess being mildly confused that furnture refurbing isn't bigger business, because I can guaratnee they're putting in mdf crapola that will be busted and useless in less than a decade...
2391300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:38:13.7060000-05:00once that stuff is landfilled, it's g.o.n.e, friends. Show me your gree initiatives again?
2392300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:40:51.2220000-05:00hm. wondering if i could found my own nonprofit to buy up, warehouse, and refurb this kind of thing, for the future, about 15 years from now once people realize how stupid they've been. Could be a nice retirement "thing to do" to refurb a warehouse full of 1960's/70's "furniture"... 🤔
2393316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-06T12:49:01.1200000-05:00I recall there are more roboreels in storage; wouldn't hurt to at least install the ones we have
2394300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T12:50:18.5280000-05:00or auction them off if we don't want to use them.
2395300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T13:05:44.0560000-05:00demo of slow retract https://youtu.be/TUD9pY7iNNg?t=111
2396300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T13:07:55.3010000-05:00prices on the coxreels https://www.new-line.com/crimpers-reels/hose-reels/heavy-duty-spring-rewind-hose-reels-for-air-water-fluids/coxreels-ez-coil-slow-retracting-spring-rewind-hose-reel
2397115183069555589125aceat642019-06-06T13:24:08.3630000-05:00and it's probably a fairly simple centrifugal governor in there I bet
2398115183069555589125aceat642019-06-06T13:24:18.9690000-05:00which is hopefully more robust
2399300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-06T13:25:07.6170000-05:00dunno. more curious how they do it than interested in having them, but... (sorry for spamming the channel; i'll shove off now)
2400547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-07T08:21:35.1130000-05:00Not *entirely* Logistics but related: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/standard-dms-drill-bit-library/57257/14
2401547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-07T08:22:30.6520000-05:00TL;DR : for the workshop it looks like we really only need about a dozen drill bit sizes to realize most of the need for drilling pilot holes and through-holes in wood for common lag screws and bolts
2402334393967015755776agr00902019-06-07T12:21:44.8100000-05:00Coming up with specific drill bit sizes to stock seems like overkill to me, why not just go with whatever comes in the standard cheap bulk set?
2403334393967015755776agr00902019-06-07T12:23:12.7760000-05:00The 32PCS 3/64",30PCS 1/16",30PCS 5/64",30PCS 3/32",20PCS 1/8",20PCS 9/64",12PCS 5/32",12PCS 11/64",12PCS 3/16",8PCS 7/32",4PCS 15/64",6PCS 1/4",4PCS 9/32",2PCS 5/16",3PCS 21/64",2PCS 23/64",1PCS 3/8",1PCS 1/2" with no number letter or metric options stocked
2404194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-07T12:30:19.8310000-05:00That's what I was thinking
2405194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-07T12:30:44.9850000-05:00But I won't turn away someone wanting to make a buy list
2406316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T12:40:09.1310000-05:00on an unrelated logistics note, can we get a drop-box for LOTO keys? Right now we train people to stick them under the server room door if they need to leave the space. Something small, with a little keybox like the one metal / laser use
2407316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T12:40:18.6140000-05:00all committee chairs could have access
2408316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T12:40:48.9370000-05:00I've had people tag stuff out, but then not be able to wait around the space for someone to fix it
2409300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-07T12:51:36.4700000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium maybe something like this:
2410300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-07T12:51:48.9250000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063154044534784/586613297206526010/JPEG_20190607_125142.jpg?ex=67b965f4&is=67b81474&hm=4599e1a0b0bf3051a08d0d0ee7581f11f83c49a72c3eee9653bc644bd4f32fa0&
2411316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T12:52:34.3390000-05:00yeah for the drop key, or what we already use; it's the users dropping in keys I'm more concerned about
2412316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T12:52:37.4600000-05:00we don't have a spot
2413388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:49:41.3840000-05:00or, better yet, make an rfid for a big keyring on a welded circle, and have it where admins can temp add someone to the permission list
2414388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:49:57.4010000-05:00the lock out tag out locks should be available for all to grab sans badge
2415388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:50:02.6850000-05:00the unlocker is the one to track
2416388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:50:27.6910000-05:00though id suggest some kind of auto print like / akin to the storage thing, so we could get a date/time/user stamp
2417316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:52:48.8600000-05:00@doug.emes the current instruction is to use the storage kiosk to print a ticket with contact info for taping to the lock and key. The problem is them having a spot to leave the key if they need to leave the sapce
2418316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:52:56.4430000-05:00anyone can walk up and grab a LOTO set currently
2419388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:53:00.8510000-05:00cool
2420316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:08.7050000-05:00each lock is individually keyed
2421388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:53:12.8840000-05:00ahhh
2422316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:16.6370000-05:00no one should have keys for locks other than the one they install
2423388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:53:32.6370000-05:00arguably none of the keys should be available
2424388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:53:34.7970000-05:00ever
2425316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:35.1630000-05:00unless they can't stay for fixing it, in which case it gets up to the committee chair or member responsible to fix the machine
2426316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:37.4620000-05:00no
2427316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:39.9840000-05:00absolutely not
2428316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:43.2350000-05:00they need to be available
2429316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:47.5680000-05:00that's the point of LOTO
2430388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:53:49.8570000-05:00no
2431316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:53:56.4990000-05:00they are available to the person who needs to lock it
2432388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:54:00.3160000-05:00the point of lock out tag out is safety
2433316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:54:01.8020000-05:00proper loto locks are key retaining
2434316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:54:04.7940000-05:00you can'
2435316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:54:11.3770000-05:00t provide the lock without the key
2436316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:54:18.3890000-05:00one man, one key, one lock
2437316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:54:20.8090000-05:00that's the rule
2438388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:54:51.3840000-05:00the key on lockout then since were a multiple user place shoudl go into a timed or badged lockbox
2439316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:54:58.7240000-05:00the person locking it out is also usually the one that unlocks it
2440316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:55:16.6840000-05:00the only reason we have to consider a key drop is for conditions that do not clear
2441316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:55:36.2280000-05:00in metal shop for example we have users that lock the oven so they can setup larger projects or batch jobs, and clean the oven
2442316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:55:50.4700000-05:00they are required to use a loto on the disconnect when working inside the oven
2443316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:56:04.3390000-05:00and they remove it when they are done
2444388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:56:34.6600000-05:00the point im trying to illustrate is that once the key is disengaged from the lock, it should then be in a tracked timed videod or photod location
2445388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:56:45.1990000-05:00if its in a pocket, it means we will end up losing them
2446388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:56:53.8470000-05:00they go offsite
2447388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T13:56:55.6730000-05:00etc
2448316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:57:13.4920000-05:00and loto keys are not supposed to be handed off except in exceptional circumstances
2449316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:57:15.7550000-05:00like they have to leave
2450316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:57:24.9210000-05:00or have to escalate it
2451316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:57:38.4030000-05:00otherwise no one else is supposed to get access to that key
2452316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:58:01.5250000-05:00otherwise someone *will* try to run the equipment
2453316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:58:24.9630000-05:00I say this as someone who watched a member rip off the warnings and plug cover on a shorted sander and catch the belt on fire
2454316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:58:38.6700000-05:00(this was before we had proper loto covers)
2455547106163842613259nullinterface2019-06-07T13:58:40.3890000-05:00glorious
2456316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:58:53.3840000-05:00I still see people trying to bypass the hardware lockouts on occassion
2457316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T13:59:17.9200000-05:00we can't trust they won't just use the key if they can find it
2458316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:00:41.9780000-05:00we looked at individually locking RFID capable keyboxes and they are incredibly expensive. The locks themselves are cheap
2459316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:00:50.4760000-05:00I've had a total of one key walk off in metal
2460316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:00:59.0340000-05:00it was 4 hours labor inspecting the machine, and
2461316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:01:13.0810000-05:00after clearing it some bolt cutters and 8 dollars
2462388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:01:51.4240000-05:00and my point is a culture thing. you tag, you lock, you put the key on the holder, and the facility system allows that user to input a minimum time for the lock
2463316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:02:18.8630000-05:00and that's not viable; often we don't know how long a lockout will last
2464316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:02:35.9010000-05:00and at the same time, we still need to prevent people from getting the key once it expires if it runs long for example
2465316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:03:08.1830000-05:00it's an overly complex system; KISS👍 (1)
2466388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:03:22.2270000-05:00so the default can be 1day, the point is to make the key go somewhere specific, you guys are saying in another punch code lockbox, and im saying use our identift system we all aready HAVE TO HAVE
2467316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:03:32.1350000-05:00a key drop box that only chairs/bod or similar is all it needs
2468316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:04:16.0090000-05:00$20 box, versus upkeep of another inhouse rfid system that to this day we still haven't gotten deployed properly
2469316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:04:35.1740000-05:00that's what I'm getting at
2470388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:08:33.4370000-05:00im extremely anti using physical code lockboxes, but ive stated my opinion. i really do appreciate your effort in trying to increase physical safety of members
2471194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-07T14:08:47.9190000-05:00@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I don't see why we can't get a box, find a solution and we can take it to a meeting
2472194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-07T14:09:13.8950000-05:00For whatever y'all decide. It sounds like there's some debate
2473316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:12:21.5590000-05:00@doug.emes I understand the concern, but in the end it don't need but a handful of people that can open the box, as it's only for the exceptional case that the person locking it out is not the person that puts the equipment back in service. In all honesty it could be a key and we add it to the admin keybox in the server room, or we just cut drop slots in existing committees' locked areas
2474316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:13:19.2490000-05:00there are options, but IMHO there are usually only a handful of people that would be qualified to override lock outs in each area. Given that it is a very rare case I'd rather we not over complicate it
2475316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:14:28.6620000-05:00like in metal there are maybe 4 people, including myself, that would be able to do it for any machine in metal (Tim, Freddy, Charles, and myself) and a couple more with a restricted set of tools.
2476316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:14:47.8630000-05:00I'm not trying to persuade you at this point, just providing background since I feel this should be discussed in the future
2477388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:14:53.4540000-05:00i gotcha
2478388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:15:18.1090000-05:00and im saying a large part of a new culture of safety is to enable ANYONE to lock out a machine
2479316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:15:28.7230000-05:00and anyone *can* lockout a machine
2480316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:15:46.0200000-05:00the concern is the exceptional case that the person who did *not* lock it is the one that *unlocks* it
2481388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:15:46.7540000-05:00if you polled the DMS (non metal shop) what kind of response would you get on it currently?
2482316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:15:54.5330000-05:00no idea
2483316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:16:03.0370000-05:00we provide LOTO training in metal as part of some classes
2484388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:16:11.5360000-05:00because i forsee laser needing it immediately, die sub possibly, certainly many things in woodshop
2485316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:16:13.8300000-05:00it needs to be more known to the space as a whole
2486388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:16:18.7880000-05:00yep yep
2487316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:16:25.0120000-05:00woodshop some members are comfortable, but def not all
2488316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:16:34.9360000-05:00sometimes a committee member will call someone at the space to perform a lockout
2489316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:16:47.9500000-05:00and they'll drop the key for a committee member in the server room or some other area
2490316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:17:04.9710000-05:00which is what we do when a member in metal needs to lock something out due to a hazard, but can't stick around
2491316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:17:12.0530000-05:00they just slide the key under the server room door currently
2492316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:17:28.8930000-05:00but I'd rather have a drop box, like right next to the LOTO tools
2493388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:17:40.9350000-05:00im mostly there as well
2494316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:17:41.8830000-05:00logistics already has a LOTO set for members to grab as needed
2495316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:18:07.4480000-05:00it's on the tool wall next to the cintas box in front of automotive
2496316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:18:13.8290000-05:00small bag
2497316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:18:50.4420000-05:00I'd rather we make a nicer, easier to see lock out station (we could make the station; they're way too expensive to want to buy one for what's just a glorified hanging rack for padlocks)
2498388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-07T14:20:03.4460000-05:00handgun safes come to mind
2499316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:24:56.2330000-05:00woah
2500316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-06-07T14:25:11.4270000-05:00just found what may be a perfect one (negating cost, could probably make something like it without too much trouble): https://www.amazon.com/Brady-Combined-Lockout-Station-Padlocks/dp/B003XU7HUA/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=loto+station&qid=1559935137&s=gateway&sr=8-14
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