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2306371695802056705bill49342017-04-28T01:54:19.7560000-05:00This space intentionally left blank.
3194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-04-28T01:57:41.3020000-05:00@Bill i added you as @education chair you now have permission to post in the #committee_chairs room as well
4300086522961461248ashley_newland85862017-05-02T20:28:46.9610000-05:00I have a question regarding class fees. Science is planning a 3 part class. We want to charge different fees for members and non-members. Is there a way to do that with the existing calendar system?
5115183069555589125aceat642017-05-02T20:31:56.5770000-05:00@education chair
6194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-02T20:33:12.4570000-05:00Bill is opposed to discord. I don't think he's gonna be on here
7115183069555589125aceat642017-05-02T20:35:00.6520000-05:00that's unfortunate
8303701263860760579missydee120649742017-05-02T20:35:32.7540000-05:00Probably have to use eventbrite
9194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-02T20:35:56.7750000-05:00No they were talking about the DMS charging a fee
10194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-02T20:36:10.1740000-05:00Eventbright takes its own cut
11303701263860760579missydee120649742017-05-02T20:36:18.3920000-05:00Ohhh,
12194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-02T20:37:11.1400000-05:00Yeah we used to have it set up where you could charge whatever you want for a class. But the DMS would get 10% etc
13306371695802056705bill49342017-05-03T01:19:02.0660000-05:00No, same fees for everybody. What's wrong with Talk?
14194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-05-03T01:22:04.6860000-05:00Are you thinking of doing a fee based on % of $ taken in class? Or just a flat fee per class regardless of free or paid class?
15306371695802056705bill49342017-05-03T04:23:51.2190000-05:00The web site mentions a discount on some classes for members; that may be what she is proposing.
16300086522961461248ashley_newland85862017-05-03T13:07:26.2870000-05:00We want to be able to charge members a discounted rate. So if you are a member you only pay $50 but if you aren't a member you pay more
17302089838222376960alerho2017-05-03T13:07:42.4600000-05:00So @Ashley_Newland you can create a class for members only but in the description have an eventbrite link for non members. It's not ideal but with the current system that is the only way I see it working. There are some gotchas. You won't be able to truely limit people. So if you only have 5 spots and 5 people buy eventbrite and 5 members buy tickets, that's an issue.
18302089838222376960alerho2017-05-03T13:08:11.8740000-05:00The non members will also see the member price listed in the event but that's not a big deal.
19302089838222376960alerho2017-05-03T13:11:40.4500000-05:00When this calendar system started finance wanted as little work to go through them so that is why it is the way it is. It's filled with compromise from finance and classroom at the time. I hope that before other items are added to the calendar that they think about how it will effect finance and other volunteers.
20300086522961461248ashley_newland85862017-05-03T13:14:08.9710000-05:00Thank you so much for the info. It'll be okay we will figure something out.
21300465754439155712uglyknees2017-05-16T13:22:49.9510000-05:00Silent auction is half way up but won't be live until 10p tonight. Make sure you read everything- lots of info and I'm not done yet. This auction isn't the final bid. Final bid is at the picnic. http://www.32auctions.com/DallasMakerspace17
22312707315310657547thatoneguyoverhere65302017-05-16T19:44:47.9110000-05:00At our Digital Media Committee, several members brought up "Opencast" and question of which committee was working on setting it up or improving it. We agreed that the DM committee will not be focusing on opencast at the moment, so we wanted to pass that message along 😀
23300157480414085131.ladyl2017-05-17T07:26:12.3330000-05:00Thanks for the update! We have a group of members working on it. Bill Gee, Mark Havens, and Brian Terry seem to be taking the lead on it. :)
24300311540211515392robert222017-05-24T20:15:15.1400000-05:00We had a no call no show from Saul Portillo-Menchaca working with Eva foam for cosplay. Who can reach out and find what happened
25294269552705929216limeytx2017-05-24T21:01:09.1360000-05:00Not sure who that is, when was the class?
26304037876054753285kriskat3096852017-05-25T02:25:47.7500000-05:00He was there and taught the class.
27207961619538378762denzuko2017-06-09T14:52:32.8770000-05:00is there a way to create new classes on learn.dallasmakerspace.org or has this changed?
28302089838222376960alerho2017-06-11T15:59:31.5040000-05:00yeah there is a way
29302089838222376960alerho2017-06-11T16:00:13.5990000-05:00what are you looking to create? Somethign for VCC or another area? we have categories and I can create them as needed.
30109359055532732416clone10182017-06-12T14:29:55.5820000-05:00Hrm, you can't book things same day on the Calendar? I want to book the Purple classroom for an hour to do light replacements
31109359055532732416clone10182017-06-12T14:30:22.7210000-05:00I guess that makes sense
32300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-06-13T11:32:34.1080000-05:00For future reference, any of the Calendar Admins can book a room on short notice for projects like that. Come find me, I'd be happy to do that and help with the LED replacements.👍 (1)
33109359055532732416clone10182017-06-14T13:39:10.8030000-05:00Thanks Stan, LED replacements would be very fast if I could just stay on the ladder lol
34109359055532732416clone10182017-06-14T13:39:33.6640000-05:00Now that I know its not more crazy I want to get 4 people together to come in one weekend and fix most of the shop
35109359055532732416clone10182017-06-14T13:39:45.1330000-05:00got a little bit more organization before that though
36250129661219176449toenolla2017-06-14T20:43:17.9460000-05:00oof...ok, since general chat is swamped... is there a way to link the DMS calendar to my google calendar? It'd be nice to have all the classes up on my phone.
37109359055532732416clone10182017-06-14T20:44:57.7250000-05:00I couldn't find a way when I tried earlier, I forgot to respond sorry :p
38250129661219176449toenolla2017-06-14T20:55:10.8490000-05:00No problem. 😃
39302089838222376960alerho2017-06-14T22:18:09.8720000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/new-calendar-and-honorarium-process/11144/127 for anyone else that is looking.👍 (2)
40250129661219176449toenolla2017-06-17T10:59:33.4220000-05:00Thank you Alex!
41300080747673288704kenpurcell2017-07-17T09:45:06.0740000-05:00Where do the honorarium auditors now discuss pending events requesting honorarium?
42300075929848381451stansimmons20312017-07-17T19:05:45.6110000-05:00On the Honorarium Hangout is where I've been seeing sporadic discussion
43109359055532732416clone10182017-07-18T10:17:33.1290000-05:00I'm working on a docker compose setup so you can start working on the calendar in a dev environment in like 3 steps
44109359055532732416clone10182017-07-18T10:17:41.6790000-05:00So frustrated by setting up ldap lol
45207961619538378762denzuko2017-07-18T10:35:01.7800000-05:00how are you setting up ldap?
46207961619538378762denzuko2017-07-18T10:36:21.9910000-05:00Oh and have you tried to setup the dns records (http://www.rjsystems.nl/en/2100-dns-discovery-kerberos.php, http://www.rjsystems.nl/en/2100-dns-discovery-openldap.php)?
47189645236908064768themitch222017-07-20T08:31:11.3900000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/337587244946685952/IMG_20170720_083044.jpg?ex=67b928df&is=67b7d75f&hm=bf4b0b1fe5d2c5473c06a208fe8db82cdf8869b8bff60713e3a79e8d122a4edc&
48189645236908064768themitch222017-07-20T08:31:44.2830000-05:00I'm not sure who makes these but this is the room scheduling for MultiCAM using E-ink displays
49189645236908064768themitch222017-07-20T08:32:18.5380000-05:00It would be cool to hack cheap e-readers like this
50194641296529424386canibalcrab2017-07-20T10:05:10.6630000-05:00Tanner's has a bunch of the e ink screens
51302089838222376960alerho2017-07-20T13:28:04.6070000-05:00https://www.tindie.com/products/electronictrik/high-tech-e-paper-iot-door-sign/
52302089838222376960alerho2017-07-20T13:28:27.2300000-05:00The one you show looks a bit bigger though.
53207961619538378762denzuko2017-07-20T15:24:20.3830000-05:00we do have several kindle fires that's been configured for the room scheduling kiosks and a few mounts that need redesigning
54207961619538378762denzuko2017-07-24T18:21:12.6890000-05:00sorry, got caught up in traffic coming from the store and work. on my way for the class I'm holding. be there in a few minutes
55207961619538378762denzuko2017-09-29T20:36:52.2820000-05:00@education chair I'm trying round up every one for the requirements gathering on mm/calendar revamp and we're needing your input. when is a good time on your schedule for a quick 45min meeting?
56302089838222376960alerho2018-04-09T17:08:03.0870000-05:00I will not be able to attend the meeting at 6 today. Is there an agenda? Who all is running for the chair?
57371416661040955403talkers2018-04-09T19:00:20.2900000-05:00There was an agenda. I'll post the minutes. In attendance, Bill G, Cairenne, Robin, Stan, and me. I ran for Chair unopposed and was elected. Bill is Vice-chair.👍 (1)
58207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-09T19:02:03.0450000-05:00😀
59432401820569042944kevpat2018-04-10T12:09:19.5210000-05:00OK I payed $120 instead of $25 receipt Glk6 Please don't destroy my self esteem Be gentle guys
60194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-04-10T12:12:54.9760000-05:00Again. You need to email finance@dallasmakerspace.org the discord is unofficial and won't get you anything done with requesting a refund on a receipt mistake
61432401820569042944kevpat2018-04-10T12:17:12.3780000-05:00K
62371416661040955403talkers2018-04-10T16:12:21.1990000-05:00@Kevin I copied the bookkeeper too. Bookkeeper@dallasmakerspace.org
63207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-24T12:16:39.2960000-05:00Instructor Pool Process v1.0.0 - Abstracted for committee templatinghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/438387812266672148/Class_Process.bpmn?ex=67b95db7&is=67b80c37&hm=46fe9ce7d8897abca5d884b2d10d260c3324fc6193e3ef8bc2d526ea98e8b460&dms (1)
64207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-24T12:16:53.0650000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/438387869539631105/Class_Process_1.png?ex=67b95dc4&is=67b80c44&hm=de74600511ee044e4fd80cf510334dfaf5882f991158b01b6a17dedb53046462&
65207961619538378762denzuko2018-04-24T12:17:47.5730000-05:00^ for consideration by the classroom committee and defining the process to help update calandar/moodle/...
66263957475718463488blackfire_tx90402018-05-31T16:59:21.5200000-05:00https://twitter.com/deviantollam/status/1002232401777475584?s=19🖤 (1)
67371416661040955403talkers2018-07-09T21:14:37.9150000-05:00Meeting Weds night
68294269552705929216limeytx2018-07-13T18:58:42.3570000-05:00Hey John, any idea how long after a class is cancelled, that the room is free'd up on the calendar?
69371416661040955403talkers2018-07-13T18:59:21.8400000-05:00Should be immediately
7077222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-13T19:02:29.0080000-05:00hey question: so if we need a class to qualify for using a specific tool, what's a good way to see when the next class is or request/help with its scheduling?
71306285952303759360davidkessinger97072018-07-13T19:42:16.3800000-05:00What the calendar. Since classes are taught by volunteers and they typically won't commit to teaching a class more than 3 weeks out (usually 12 days) they don't appear till 10-14 days out. Nature of the beast. It would be nie if classes in queue were read only for everybody except the auditors.
7277222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-13T19:44:10.7090000-05:00makes sense. if it's something that we have outside training on something, is there a way we can take a certification test instead of the class?
73294269552705929216limeytx2018-07-13T20:30:01.1810000-05:00Daniel, what class are you after?
7477222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-13T22:01:39.7420000-05:00The automotive lift. I currently work as general service at a Firestone, so I lift cars on a daily basis. I just want to get clearance for it, and learn that specific type of lift
75371416661040955403talkers2018-07-13T22:20:29.6360000-05:00The lift class is only about 20-30 min long, the same as a run thru
76371416661040955403talkers2018-07-13T22:24:18.8590000-05:00Each committee sets the rules on training and verification. The problem on general certifications, like welding or woodshop, is the time and toll on our volunteers. They need to be compensated for making the trip and setting time aside to teach or verify. No doubt we have talented, skillful new members join. We still have to show, as you said Daniel, the particulars of our set up, maintenance, safety,and rules.
77371416661040955403talkers2018-07-13T22:24:41.1750000-05:00The easiest way is to funnel everyone thru the classes
78371416661040955403talkers2018-07-13T22:25:16.4860000-05:00The extra benefit is the skilled folks are better prepared to teach after.
7977222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-13T23:05:01.8880000-05:00Yep, that all makes perfect sense. I just wanted to ask and see if something was in place, but I can just wait for the next class. I'm going to the next autmotive committee meeting on the 16th I believe, so I can hopefully get plugged into the community then✌ (1)
80306285952303759360davidkessinger97072018-07-14T12:50:50.3990000-05:00Daniel. When you go to the Automotive Committee meeting talk with Tom if you'd like to be a Lift Instructor. It would be greatly appreciated. Classes are pretty much ad hoc when someone would it it and an instructor is available and willing.
8177222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-14T16:28:16.2200000-05:00Sure, once I've been trained I'd be willing to volunteer🍻 (2)
82262734618447446016draco_the_drake2018-07-18T03:31:10.3370000-05:00@Denzuko.sdf.org ... I have created a permanent "development" branch on the GitHub Calendar All, development should be merged into there first. Then once it is has been QAed and ready for production, then merged into master. Master needs to stay pristine. Also, this allows the development branch to be CIed into a different domain for everyone to play with.
83294269552705929216limeytx2018-07-20T13:13:44.1650000-05:00What is the max capacity for the interactive? Any idea?
84194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-07-20T13:16:08.1830000-05:00Like by #of seats we have? Or by fire marshal who says we can't have books on brewing?
85371416661040955403talkers2018-07-22T09:37:28.4930000-05:00@Limey (MReynolds) no idea...
86371416661040955403talkers2018-07-22T09:38:07.0820000-05:00Today's meeting to review calendar requirements has been cancelled. I'll schedule another meeting soon. @Draco
8777222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-25T12:10:59.0870000-05:00New person question: how do we go about creating classes/getting registered as an instructor? When I joined, some people wanted me to teach classes
88194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-07-25T12:13:40.4490000-05:00Anyone can teach
8977222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-25T12:57:48.2250000-05:00How does one go about doing that?
90194641296529424386canibalcrab2018-07-25T12:58:59.6270000-05:00Dallasmakerspace.org/teach
9177222289019502592cryhavoc212018-07-25T13:06:14.9850000-05:00Cool, thanks
92207961619538378762denzuko2018-08-22T15:03:08.7850000-05:00@john a gorman Got a potential volunteer instructor that I'd like to introduce to the space. He'll be heading up classes on CompTIA related course and be a regular contact for the VCC Instructor pool. Think you got time to meet with him?🤗 (1)
93207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:07:49.7950000-05:00@here could some fix https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/edit/7850 I put in for this monday and it poped up as November.
94371416661040955403talkers2018-09-21T17:09:21.8880000-05:00@Denzuko.sdf.org are you sure u didn't pick Nov?
95207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:15:03.1560000-05:00damn sure
96207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:17:21.4050000-05:00and no this is not the only time that date picker has glitched. I have half a mind to be a dick and blow away the current calendar inplace of one written in node js and react.js. or something that's not going to be such a pain
97207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:18:23.8740000-05:00https://medium.com/@avanthikameenakshi/building-restful-api-with-nodejs-and-mysql-in-10-min-ff740043d4be
98207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:19:20.4340000-05:00https://www.nativescript.org/blog/vue-and-nativescript-in-one-minute
99207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:20:26.7010000-05:00Now there's a datepicker for you https://elemefe.github.io/mint-ui/#/datetime-picker
100207961619538378762denzuko2018-09-21T17:22:08.4300000-05:00better yet, android supported ui - https://vuematerial.io/components/datepicker
101123894152260878346conic2018-12-11T21:56:33.9550000-06:00Found a digital signage thing.
102123894152260878346conic2018-12-11T21:56:34.7950000-06:00https://getjoan.com/
103123894152260878346conic2018-12-11T21:57:10.9000000-06:00A bit pricy, but has an API for integration into our booking system.
104371416661040955403talkers2018-12-12T00:25:40.3460000-06:00@conic hi. I don't recognize the handle.
105300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-03-20T15:34:11.6770000-05:00This should probably be changed to education committee btw. @nerds
106115183069555589125aceat642019-03-20T15:34:35.5970000-05:00Done
107263153628141977603kentamanos2019-03-20T15:55:55.2490000-05:00but now it's not in alpha order! 😃😄 (2)
108115183069555589125aceat642019-03-20T16:03:54.3410000-05:00Can't easily fix that on mobile
109263153628141977603kentamanos2019-03-20T16:15:07.6180000-05:00no rush, timing was just funny with @merissa comment on infra 😃
110300078993577607170merissa43082019-03-20T16:25:21.0140000-05:00Hah! Didn't even notice this one 😄
111263153628141977603kentamanos2019-03-20T16:33:24.3900000-05:00it was "classroom" until 3:34 😃
112300078993577607170merissa43082019-03-20T17:03:39.4560000-05:00Didn't notice that either 😆 Maybe need to work on my observational skills
113388213344236077056doug.emes2019-03-20T21:16:08.3290000-05:00Woohoo renamed!
114388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-03T21:06:03.7480000-05:00threw up a calendar event for the 18th for the election for this committee of which I am a humble member
115388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-03T21:09:47.9850000-05:00and 100% i am NOT running
116262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-04T03:59:16.9160000-05:00https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/12074
117262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-04T03:59:29.9080000-05:00I'd vote for ya Doug
118262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-04T04:00:02.3610000-05:00But this place will suck up all your time if you let it
119115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:10:12.6730000-05:00random thought, but how well do we explain to our teachers than they can charge for classes (and keep the proceeds)?
120115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:10:39.3120000-05:00might be a win-win for many of the more prolific teachers to charge $10-15/student
121115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:11:42.8470000-05:00paradoxically, charging for classes can often _increase_ the number of students who want to take the class, because of the perception of value
122545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:39:33.5520000-05:00Do you mean solely through Eventbrite?
123115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:40:59.6530000-05:00yeah, I think the calendar software has that integrated
124545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:41:49.2220000-05:00You pay a fee through Eventbrite and then you would only make $10/15 for an hour and a half- that’s minimum wage.
125115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:42:36.3490000-05:00I think there's a miscommunication here, I'm saying the teacher could charge per student $10-15 (or more if it's a very highly valued class)
126545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:42:50.8290000-05:00Ah.
127115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:42:54.6760000-05:00at $10/student, a class with 6 students nets the teacher more money, regardless of length
128545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:44:10.9610000-05:00We did discuss at the last chair vice chair meeting really needing to address the dated software and possibly request to pay for a new calendar system that could integrate Eventbrite AND meetup to bring in new members. I believe Eventbrite has a pretty big fee per payment
129115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:44:42.4880000-05:00looks like Eventbrite is 3.5% + $1.79 per ticket
130115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:45:07.1340000-05:00we might be able to negotiate a better rate as a non-profit
131545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:46:19.7480000-05:00I tried it once and wasn’t a fan. Is there anything else out there like it?
132115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:47:40.2300000-05:00probably, the other option is just tying the calendar software into a CC processor, though we'd end up being the middle man for processing the payments to the teacher
133115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:48:27.8910000-05:00services like Stripe are fairly straightforward to use from an programming standpoint, we'd have to hash out the financial workflow
134115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:48:51.0650000-05:00their rate is 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction
135115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:49:07.1970000-05:00(might be lower for non-profits)
136115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:49:37.8800000-05:00looks like 2.2% for non-profit
137115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:51:59.8460000-05:00at eventbrite's pricing a $10 gets the teacher $7.86 after fees, at $15 that's $12.68
138115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:52:31.2240000-05:00so $15/student breakeven with honorarium is at 4 students
139115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:53:00.4550000-05:00any teacher with classes regularly over 4 students should really think about charging $15/head
140115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:54:24.1340000-05:00example, a 10 student class that paid $15/student is $126.80 for the teacher
141388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-16T14:55:11.0980000-05:00Your assuming the free loving as in free beer students will choose to pay. That's a huge assumption. The takeaway/proj classes where you pay for materials is usually under 10 and they don't fill
142115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:55:54.4310000-05:00I think there's loads of people willing to pay for a class, at the right price point and class qualities
143388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-16T14:56:19.1620000-05:00Arguably those classes Arent being taught yet
144115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:56:33.7680000-05:00perception of value is important, there's likely plenty of people who see a free class and don't go, because they think there's a catch
145388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-16T14:56:36.6570000-05:00Kirk keeters class would have been bgg ut he backed out
146190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T14:56:44.4750000-05:00perception of value is a real emotional force that i often feel however, i have been reminding myself lately that if i wouldn't do it if it were free, i probably shouldn't do it
147545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:57:44.4120000-05:00I charge for materials and they fill but then people no show🤷‍♀️
148190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T14:57:45.2940000-05:00such as the ruby on rails course that one guy kept pushing. his friend teaches it, that's great that he tries to support him. but he kept asking after i said no. at that point it's like, really?
149115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:57:53.4400000-05:00funny story, my parents had a bunch of stuff they wanted to get rid of, so they put it out front with a sign that said "Free, please take" it sat there for days, my Dad decided instead to put a sign on it that said "For sale, ring door bell" it was stolen within 2 hours
150115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:57:59.7620000-05:00(this legit happened)
151545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-05-16T14:58:06.9760000-05:00Lol
152190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T14:58:22.5870000-05:00lol but that's just it though
153190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T14:58:34.7090000-05:00if it's free, it's likely defective in their mind right?
154190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T14:58:52.2870000-05:00if you have the audacity to ask for money for something left on the lawn, then they think you know there's still some value in that thing
155115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:59:27.0720000-05:00exactly, it's the same reason Beats puts weights in their headsets
156190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T14:59:32.3260000-05:00but i mean... you can put any price on knowledge and you would have no idea if it's worth anything based on that
157115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:59:41.9950000-05:00if it _appears_ cheap, people assume it's because it's bad
158115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T14:59:51.8360000-05:00(that's not a great example, Beats are bad)
159190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:00:01.7940000-05:00weights are good though
160190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:00:08.6930000-05:00they are
161190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:00:09.4460000-05:00lol
162190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:00:19.8430000-05:00i like things that are heavy
163190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:00:27.7140000-05:00i like having a heavy keyboard, and a weighted mouse
164115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:00:58.2660000-05:00people view phones with metal and glass backs as "better" than the plastic ones, but arguably plastic is a better case material, it just looks/feels cheaper
165190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:01:34.1940000-05:00depends on the plastic
166190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:02:20.3820000-05:00plastic does scuff more and that looks ugly. form is important for some people's images. plastic can also crack. Metal and glass both smudge but they can be cleaned. Metal bends and gets hot but is good otherwise
167190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:02:21.5020000-05:00but
168190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:02:34.3660000-05:00i would have to argue that backglass is the best way to go, if you do it the way samsung does it
169190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:03:05.3470000-05:00iphone backglass is an abomination
170190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:03:42.0800000-05:00but samsung backglass is functional. It can crack. But you can easily take it off and put a new one on yourself for 15 bucks or less.
171190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:04:40.6940000-05:00thank you for coming to my ted talk there's merch in the back so...
172115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:08:46.4640000-05:00hmm another option, if we end up handling the processing directly, could be to have the classes free to members, but cost for non-members, but we still pay the teacher the same per head anyway
173115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:09:08.2360000-05:00it would have to be balanced against various factors though
174115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:09:37.1850000-05:00general idea would be to encourage non-members to become members, even if just for a class or two
175190945022399610890timooni2019-05-16T15:09:44.7970000-05:00like an a la carte honorarium that non members would subsidize?
176115183069555589125aceat642019-05-16T15:10:24.7710000-05:00something like that
177547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-17T13:22:42.7370000-05:00*[back to yesterday's conversation]* ah phone construction materials and all the largely-wasted efforts they put into aesthetics
178547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-17T13:23:03.9130000-05:00some huge percentage of the market slaps a case on that phone as soon as they can procure one
179547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-17T13:23:21.6320000-05:00thus all those premium materials never ever get looked at
180547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-17T13:23:52.7930000-05:00but I guess glass backs are good for one thing - the phones tend not to last as long👍 (1)
181547106163842613259nullinterface2019-05-17T13:26:37.7010000-05:00also polycarbonate is one of the better phone materials out there for everything but the screen, which we insist one being left naked while also demanding scratch resistance
182388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-18T18:29:12.2580000-05:00back to actual education committee - we held our meeting and election, and John Gorman has the majority of votes, I updated talk and wil lbe updating the wiki
183388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-18T18:29:21.7220000-05:00he is our chairperson elect to be confirmed by the new board
184371416661040955403talkers2019-05-18T20:52:22.8790000-05:00Nancee has agreed to be vice chair in charge of teacher development
185371416661040955403talkers2019-05-18T20:57:51.3440000-05:00Thank you @doug.emes for helping set up the meeting and run it
186325498566762299393mizgeek2019-05-18T20:58:38.3340000-05:00-waves pom-poms and cheers-
187371416661040955403talkers2019-05-18T21:05:37.1660000-05:00@MizGeek thank you 😊
188325498566762299393mizgeek2019-05-18T21:08:04.2560000-05:00You improve anything you touch. 😁
189388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-18T22:01:51.4970000-05:00Awesome.
190388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-20T22:56:34.5710000-05:00Nice stub on the wiki
191388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T16:14:35.9920000-05:00edited the wiki to give hotlink to this channel
192388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T16:14:43.0780000-05:00and added links to jen and my talk handles etc
193388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T16:15:05.0240000-05:00John if you like ill fix yours, Bill's too (or anyone else) if they ask me too
194371416661040955403talkers2019-05-21T16:59:26.7590000-05:00@doug.emes that would be great for me. Not sure if bill checks here. Plus a general link to this channel. But I'm guessing you have already done this 😉
195388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T17:07:42.6750000-05:00yeah its a perm invite directly to this channel
196388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T17:07:46.9870000-05:00no expiration, no limits
197194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-21T17:16:37.1980000-05:00The "xyz showed up" notice still shows in general but it'll drop them in this chat
198388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T17:30:31.9690000-05:00which it should
199388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-21T17:30:41.8880000-05:00thanks for having this resource configuered Pearce
200388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-22T11:13:46.1460000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/help-plz-w-conf-rooms-for-a-large-class/56362/6?u=dougemes
201388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-22T11:13:59.9900000-05:00I replied @john a gorman but something for us to think about
202371416661040955403talkers2019-05-22T17:46:59.1310000-05:00@doug.emes thanks for the heads up
203300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T19:22:16.3120000-05:00Calendar question (think this is the best place to ask)... I just submitted an event and forgot to select a category. Can it be edited?
204300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T22:15:14.5110000-05:00Admins can edit. What do you need?
205194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-05-22T22:15:34.7370000-05:00@merissa
206300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T22:16:22.8190000-05:00Oops, forgot.... If it was the commintee meeting/maint. events, I'll go ahead and fix those
207300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:16:27.4950000-05:00Ooh thank you!
208300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:16:47.3360000-05:00Yes, I think I forgot it on the laser committee meeting for 6/2
209300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:17:23.7980000-05:00Laser category should be selected on the maintenance event
210300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T22:17:38.8170000-05:00Meeting fixed and approved. working maint. event
211300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T22:18:21.3400000-05:00Maint. was already good. approved it too
212300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:18:29.6640000-05:00Thanks! I'm about to add our monthly meetings for the next six months or so 😀
213300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:19:15.6190000-05:00They don't need rush approval or anything though, unless if you just want to as you see them
214300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T22:19:16.3060000-05:00I'll check back in a while and approve them too👍 (1)
215300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:28:10.8470000-05:00It would be cool if the calendar had a preview option before you submit your class/event
216300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-22T22:28:54.7000000-05:00Yes it would, can you or Brandon get on the DMS Github and add that feature request?
217300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:29:21.3170000-05:00I'll ask him
218300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:29:41.2030000-05:00Not sure where to find that myself
219262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-22T22:29:55.9990000-05:00https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/issues
220300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:31:00.4940000-05:00Ask and ye shall receive 😁
221300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:31:05.3040000-05:00Thanks guys!
222300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T22:34:57.3670000-05:00Ack, and I see now that I can edit after it's ~~approved~~ submitted. I'll do that next time
223300078993577607170merissa43082019-05-22T23:39:51.4240000-05:00Request entered. Thanks @AGr
224371416661040955403talkers2019-05-23T00:08:11.7160000-05:00Cooler if @AGr could code the ask
225371416661040955403talkers2019-05-23T00:08:21.0610000-05:00😉
226262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-23T01:08:26.1190000-05:00Tell him to fork it and send a Pull Request
227115183069555589125aceat642019-05-24T11:52:29.4930000-05:00I'd like to move my class today to what I think is the "North Lobby Classroom" (the room they did the BoD office hours in), it says special permission required, who do I talk to?
228115183069555589125aceat642019-05-24T11:52:53.0200000-05:00the move was requested by people who apparently think dying of heat stroke is bad 🤣
229300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-24T12:50:36.9180000-05:00I moved the Wiki class for you to the N Lobby Classroom
230115183069555589125aceat642019-05-24T12:56:05.2750000-05:00thanks
231300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-05-24T13:01:24.9100000-05:00yep disappointed that we did not get to visit with the landlord today. the purple and orange rooms where to be discussed.
232300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-05-24T15:22:14.2230000-05:00New thermostats with remote sensors will help with those rooms. Johnson Controls needs to do a repair on a couple of rtu's
233388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T00:18:41.4350000-05:00Great class @aceat64
234388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T01:54:20.7060000-05:00hmm, education committee isnt showing up under active committees, methinks something broke with the original redirect that was set up a couple weeks ago.
235371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:14:16.0310000-05:00@doug.emes it was when I created the page this week. Let me check the tag
236388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:14:29.5400000-05:00it has the tag
237388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:14:42.5290000-05:00but its not showing up under the subcategory which shows the active committees
238388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:14:48.7910000-05:00and let me know what you think of the formatting
239371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:19:08.4370000-05:00That is weird. It was working a couple of days ago
240371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:19:14.6490000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/581743063697719306/Screenshot_2019-05-25-02-18-29.png?ex=67b97a72&is=67b828f2&hm=8b737a8510f4c4637f2318671adf1df994cfb0ec8c95d1016bcb67d99bfa4fdf&
241371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:19:38.0190000-05:00It does show here, but the tag is correct for active committees
242371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:19:41.1880000-05:00{{Active Committee}}
243388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:19:47.1330000-05:00yeah, theres a couple (i think 7)
244388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:19:53.3190000-05:00overall that arent pulling up
245388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:19:57.3700000-05:00in the upper spot
246388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:20:15.1160000-05:00the other thing, and this can be handled latr, is some committees pull by name some pull as category
247388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:20:37.1820000-05:00CA is a redirect to the category when you go to Creative_Arts_Committee
248388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:20:48.4210000-05:00but ours isnt
249388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:20:54.6100000-05:00dunno which is more "right"
250371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:21:44.8650000-05:00Eduction was showing properly after Education Committee was created and redirect added
251388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:22:17.3320000-05:00theres a chance i goofed it
252388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:22:24.1140000-05:00lemme copy all my editrs to a notepad
253388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:22:28.4220000-05:00and we can try a quick revert
254388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:23:20.3700000-05:00ok i have an offline copy now
255388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:24:05.4550000-05:00wanna try taking it back to the may 21st one
256388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:24:07.5410000-05:00?
257371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:24:46.0580000-05:00But the code looks right.
258371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:25:18.4370000-05:00Sure, let's see if it makes a difference
259388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:25:32.5120000-05:00lets have you roll it real quickl
260371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:26:44.1490000-05:00Wait, me roll it back?
261371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:26:56.0580000-05:00BTW formatting looks great
262388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:26:58.2140000-05:00for the auidit log
263388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:27:00.7610000-05:00since your the chair
264388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:27:41.1280000-05:00try the 11:25, May 21, 2019 revision
265371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:28:27.6360000-05:00That's just clicking on the "undo" link, yes?
266388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:28:30.8000000-05:00yes
267388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:28:39.2400000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/w/index.php?title=Education&offset=20190521205237&action=history
268388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:28:50.3130000-05:00for the undo link for that date
269371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:30:59.6580000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/581746020719788032/Screenshot_2019-05-25-02-30-39.png?ex=67b97d33&is=67b82bb3&hm=e8cd03fc41e45b19bfa945d6c4408c647d3b513abae101227c370036a13ffa3b&
270371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:31:25.1190000-05:00Wrong screenshot
271371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:32:10.2360000-05:00I think undo only does that edit. That one was small. Doesn't restore state of page
272388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:32:18.4120000-05:00ok hold on
273388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:32:26.0530000-05:00im going hit it with a hammer
274371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:32:29.5660000-05:00Wait, let me undo that
275371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:33:08.9380000-05:00Let me try one more thing
276388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:33:26.9070000-05:00yes sir
277371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:33:49.9030000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/581746734779203604/Screenshot_2019-05-25-02-33-38.png?ex=67b97ddd&is=67b82c5d&hm=667a091a8a2c6a413c29dfd7c87efa860491706c9a16dd14e4590a733bf9e53f&
278371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:33:51.5140000-05:00Hehe
279371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:33:58.9040000-05:00Try your hammer
280388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:34:01.7710000-05:00ok
281388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:34:04.1510000-05:001 sec
282388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:36:42.8840000-05:00well removing category:education committee got rid of a recursive link list
283388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:36:58.3110000-05:00but doesnt show the page as a category
284388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:37:10.1170000-05:00i think probably we may have to engage an admin later
285388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:37:14.0990000-05:00once were finished cleaning it up
286388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:37:28.1690000-05:00do you mind haveing the discussion links moved to the top?
287388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:38:04.4620000-05:00i think its better to lead wit that
288371416661040955403talkers2019-05-25T02:40:57.0560000-05:00All that works for me
289388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:41:14.0350000-05:00im just trying to get us to june to a point where we are current etc
290388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:41:35.8650000-05:00then start working into the other committees
291388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:41:38.7590000-05:00on theirs
292388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T02:41:43.6830000-05:00let us lead by example
293388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T03:45:29.1380000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Education
294388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T03:45:35.7420000-05:00https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Meeting_20190518
295388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T03:45:37.9360000-05:00wiki edits done
296388213344236077056doug.emes2019-05-25T03:45:53.3560000-05:00gnight 'Murica
297262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T14:15:29.3090000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/guide-to-build-a-group/56801
298371416661040955403talkers2019-05-30T17:50:28.5570000-05:00I'll catch up on that later. I talk to a lot of people about the process.👍 (1)
299262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T18:08:30.6230000-05:00I think we also might get into how to market your group and bring the public in.
300262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T18:09:01.4350000-05:00... giving tours and getting people to sign the waiver ... also the timer door switch
301262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-05-30T18:09:40.4380000-05:00It would be nice to be able to hand someone a booklet
302371416661040955403talkers2019-06-04T11:21:17.9710000-05:00@Draco I created such a book for PR for the open house & tour guides. It would be good with a new round of committee chairs to have them review their sections.⭐ (1)
303564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-04T13:19:42.7510000-05:00got a digital version I can look over?
304529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-04T13:57:03.2060000-05:00It's on the PR committee drive.
305371416661040955403talkers2019-06-04T14:58:38.5580000-05:00The one on the committee drive was a new member handbook also created by Mell as PR chair and others. Mine was committee focused. I'll get a copy.
306371416661040955403talkers2019-06-04T14:59:08.7640000-05:00I gave these and a third one to Jo. She wants to work on improving them👌🏼 (1)
307300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-04T15:29:53.7270000-05:00@Apparently_Weird got with me about the New Member Handbook and I directed him to the committee drive. I had always meant to follow it up with a Committee Chair Handbook and a Teacher Handbook but seeing as how the New Member one was possibly a failure, I never did the others. If PR wants to give it a shot again the whole thing needs heavy updating bc we did it circa 2016 iirc.
308300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T15:34:00.2020000-05:00why do you view the new member one as a failure? I thought it was a hit...
309300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-04T16:13:56.0380000-05:00Mostly bc it didn't stick without me pushing for it. If truly a success it would've. I'm still super proud of it and the team that created it. And like with anything DMS, I'm good with us moving on and trying something else. 👍
310300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T16:15:46.3820000-05:00Roger that.
311300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-04T16:20:56.3530000-05:00I thought your new member handbook was fantastic. I just didn't have time/energy to print them weekly.
312325498566762299393mizgeek2019-06-04T16:29:22.4220000-05:00I loved it. I still have mine. It made me more excited about Makerspace when we joined.👍 (1),dms (2)
313529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-04T16:36:57.8390000-05:00I am working on a new member handbook, a brochure, and other things. JJ probably doesn't know that. as I began the discussions with James before the election (. Well, the new member thing was started in November, but the person who insisted on "helping me" never responded. And I did not feel empowered to move forward. But now, I'm six months older and jaded. So I empowered myself.💯 (1),🏆 (1),dms (5),👏 (1)
314300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-04T16:37:37.5530000-05:00Can I get a HELL YEAH!?😁 (1)
315325498566762299393mizgeek2019-06-04T16:44:02.8820000-05:00You go!!
316325498566762299393mizgeek2019-06-04T16:46:24.3870000-05:00And 30-year tech writer is happy to help you if you need it. 😁dms (1),👏 (1)
317371416661040955403talkers2019-06-04T23:50:54.2460000-05:00Excellent!
318517420952959844354apparently_weird2019-06-05T00:14:21.7810000-05:00Well I didn’t know that but then you let the cat out the bag... 😉 The only question is, how can I support you?
319529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T02:14:14.1460000-05:00Pm me an email address so I can send you word files to look at text?
320300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-05T11:20:52.9060000-05:00If it's collaboration you're after, the G-suite works pretty darned well for file hosting, etc. And if you can use Google Docs, et.al. for your creation, more power to you, because that brings extra-enhancy functionality to the collaboration process such as simultaneous editing, comments, etc. instead of having to ship files all over tarnation via email. But if you're insistent on old-school file sharing, you can use "the committee drive" to accomplish similar tasks, just shipping short email requests around the globe rather than full-blown files. all of which I presume you uns already know, but just in case, I thought it'd toss it out there...
321529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-05T11:23:49.8840000-05:00Well, first off, I hate google docs. Not so much interested in "collaboration" as in being able to share the file format I'm working in without standing on my left foot while whistling Also Sprach Zarathustra. Being 61 and cranky has it's limitations.
322300083517877125121andrew51522019-06-05T11:29:50.4560000-05:00Preach on, sister! Hate google too. But when you're working with an org that already has it in place... (there's some expression about Romans or something...) youuns do what works for you. Sometimes people are excited by what's already on tap. Sometimes, they'd rather bottle their own. No bother to me either way...
323564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T17:41:47.0840000-05:00not looking for who but a reason why would be great to why VCC's classes got cancelled?
324262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:43:38.1710000-05:00We got new calendar admins that are stricken with strictness .. honorarium class have to be about making per the rules
325564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T17:44:23.8250000-05:00wow... even the make a mame cabinet got cancelled
326564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T17:44:35.8950000-05:00"Details Build a full size Arcade machine with a Raspberry"
327262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:44:42.6380000-05:00You can and should correct them via the board
328262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:45:02.9920000-05:00That is what was said
329564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T17:46:07.4870000-05:00well that one was going to vector..
330262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:46:24.9600000-05:00It doesn't matter .. it shouldn't have been rejected
331564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T17:46:33.3330000-05:00agreed
332262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:46:52.3870000-05:00You do know about all the stuff that went on in the committee chair meeting?
333262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:47:28.7300000-05:00They are limiting honorarium total dollars per month both committee and payments to $15000
334262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:48:11.9840000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/information-about-last-nights-meeting-6-20-19-with-the-board-chairs/58064/82
335262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:51:28.1720000-05:00Several committees and teachers are not happy
336262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:51:39.4730000-05:00and think the numbers are BS
337262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:53:07.8260000-05:00Oh and Infra and Logistics are now Groups with Freddy being the decider officers for Infra ... and Pearce being the decider officer for Logistics ... they can pick and choose who and what gets done
338262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:53:31.1440000-05:00and who attends or has say
339262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T17:56:18.5120000-05:00.... no more committee chair elections either .. normal committees still vote to nominate ... groups do not require a vote
340194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-24T18:00:39.2040000-05:00@denzuko-at-work I haven't seen the mame cabinet class write up but I assume it was rejected for being a "watch me work" kind or a workshop style class. Maybe a rewrite would help
341194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-24T18:01:08.9270000-05:00Like another example would be 3d fab can't buy a cr10 and get honorarium for a "let's build a printer class"
342194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-24T18:02:34.7310000-05:00Or better example, logistics couldn't have gotten one for the weld a table event
343262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-24T18:03:48.1690000-05:00Unless you were teaching a practical class on how to weld and using the tables as an example and place for people to learn ... each person welds a leg for example
344194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-24T18:04:59.6570000-05:00That would have been a welding class with the tables just as an opportunity. I'm just saying he might be able to resubmit. It should have had a reason. Or message the auditors
345564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T18:06:51.0610000-05:00there's a shopping list for members to bring in the materials and be guided otherwise they'll be doing the building as a team (with supervision) and installing the software on thier own
346540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-24T18:07:42.4580000-05:00Hmmm... 'how to build a printer' a 10+ part class, with a big up front materials fee but you walk out with an i3 clone all made at the makerspace.
347540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-24T18:10:14.9890000-05:00Might not need that many parts, but there would be some homework like 'print all these parts before the 5th class'...
348194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-24T18:10:34.4210000-05:00Mitch tried that once
349194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-24T18:10:50.3510000-05:00It was kits tho
350540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-24T18:23:17.1770000-05:00I'll have to ask him about it... I'm afraid it'd turn into a lot of teaching people who have never used a printer before.
351564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-24T18:26:09.1130000-05:00sounds like the usual. Most that attend our programming classes either a) already programmers and feel underskilled or b) have no understanding of any the basics and we have to tailor for the least common denominator to make attendance
352545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-24T20:30:27.4000000-05:00I ran both the ctf and lockpicking classes before the board before denying them. I didnt deny the cabinet but you should have received a reason in the email.
353300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-06-25T08:59:53.8660000-05:00The writeup was a group project. Optionally there was a shopping list if they wanted to build their own: About this Event We’ll be making a full size cabinet to be hosted in the Interactive Computer Museum which runs RetroPI. Why have a full size cabinet in VCC’s ICM? Because after getting a donation of a vintage 19" server computer case that can support multiple motherboards. Rackie McRack will be hosting several retro boards, (some in customized cases, some in drop in configurations) and we’re able to install a kvm switch which the Mame Cab will interface with. To build one's own they must use the following shopping lists: https://www.amazon.com/ideas/amzn1.account.AFZSV7IEXCYVDTA2FUEEFMKZ3OCA/WCAR0BLRJ9XV?ref=idea_cp_vl_ov_d We'll be following the instructable in: https://www.instructables.com/id/Full-Size-Arcade-Cabinet-Using-Raspberry-Pi/
354371416661040955403talkers2019-06-25T11:14:34.0050000-05:00Looks legit
355388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-25T20:46:46.5970000-05:00Are u going g to schedule a meeting for the committee for June?
356262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-06-25T21:24:52.0130000-05:00Update: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/vcc-committee-report-06-2019/57983/3
357545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-26T08:48:52.0930000-05:00Interesting, I seem to remember giving a reason/explanation. This is exactly how rumors start.
358371416661040955403talkers2019-06-26T17:33:55.9900000-05:00@doug.emes looking at 7/7. I wanted this next Sunday, but it needs to be 10 days out
359371416661040955403talkers2019-06-26T17:34:38.4060000-05:00@Lavarocks yes, a reason was in the rejection. Not sure if Dwight got it though😦 (1)
360194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-26T17:34:58.4600000-05:00Only elections need to be that far out
361371416661040955403talkers2019-06-26T17:37:07.2150000-05:00@pearce thanks. Well, 5 days notice might still be too little for attendance
362194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-06-26T17:37:25.7090000-05:00Yeah
363564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-27T11:58:56.6180000-05:00no I didn't get a notice on the rejection or a reason.
364564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-27T11:59:23.5050000-05:00where do we post that? email right?
365300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-27T13:48:10.4310000-05:00It's been a while since I've seen my test cases for what members see when a rejection is given but yes I believe it would've come as part of the rejection email.
366545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-27T14:28:05.2300000-05:00I'll submit a test Mell
367564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-06-27T14:57:51.1810000-05:00ok. so then I'll need to set a filter in gmail to make sure it flags things like that. What's the address those rejection email come from?
368300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-27T15:06:41.1890000-05:00@Lavarocks I just saw your test and rejected it.
369545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-27T15:26:21.1120000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/593899944960852010/Screenshot_20190627-152611_Gmail.jpg?ex=67b98a2d&is=67b838ad&hm=a04d02c86622fb66ebb66e0e0c17132006f3b4cfe01bc5b8a5d13ad47518e715&
370300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-06-27T15:42:10.5080000-05:00Cool, what was the sender string?
371545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-27T16:25:18.3670000-05:00Admin@dallasmakerspace.org
372300300278903734282mell.jpg2019-06-27T16:33:30.5060000-05:00@Lavarocks yeah I just did a test earlier today too after I posted this. You can see it in the rejection list. Great minds or whatever.
373545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-06-27T16:38:39.9600000-05:00Did you notice the typo in the rejection? I just noticed it and now I'm twitchy. Lol
374540021655909695488michaelb52502019-06-27T16:51:35.6830000-05:00Even I noticed it!👆 (1)
375388213344236077056doug.emes2019-06-27T19:37:38.1670000-05:00I pity the fool who doesn't use my letter😀 (2)
376529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-06-27T21:27:48.5720000-05:00@Lavarocks shoulda used dejected. So dejected I’m rejected.
377564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:01:55.8330000-05:00well.. just found a potential exploit of the calendar system that could lead to gaming the honorarium system. email+random@domain is not parsed thus treated like a new person
378564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:02:06.8860000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/595992670133026849/Screen_Shot_2019-07-03_at_10.01.51_AM.png?ex=67b93e2d&is=67b7ecad&hm=ae2cdc32ed1046dd0611e729a1e0ae8255df67c4c85af2ff028e262b519e7527&
379564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:02:38.5130000-05:00Zek Odun dwightaspencer+testacct@gmail.com 5129208169 No Confirmed View
380564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:03:16.1290000-05:00I'm removing that one but its going on the back log of items in github to fix
381564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:12:25.9230000-05:00https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/issues/105
382300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:15:12.4560000-05:00I feel stupid asking, but... how can you guard against this? Isn't this a "feature" of email? And... how does the calendar know that dwightaspencer+testacct@gmail.com is NOT valid and/or the same as {x}?
383564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:16:53.6060000-05:00adding a validator to the model which uses regex: /\w+\\+.*@.*\\.{com|org|net|edu}/
384564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:17:35.7000000-05:00if the validator finds an entry that the regex returns true then there's an existing email/user registered
385564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:18:01.4300000-05:00false then the validator allows the model to commit the record
386564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:18:39.7270000-05:00most languages; a few lines of code
387300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:20:20.6710000-05:00my (weak) regex-fu is overtaxed with that expression... what, roughly, in Englishish, is it checking?
388564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:20:48.5300000-05:00ok how's your bnf?
389564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:21:23.4970000-05:00<alphanum> "+" <alphanum> "@" <domain>
390564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:21:53.3370000-05:00the delta here is we're expressly looking for the "+" instead of <alphanum> "@" <domain>👍 (1)
391300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:22:22.5620000-05:00ah. So a literal plus sign between the two <alphanum>s?
392564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:22:30.9820000-05:00yes
393564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:23:31.3440000-05:00the second <alphanum> gets ignored in context of testing if an entity exists
394564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:24:52.4510000-05:00for identity its allowed if unique
395300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:25:39.3480000-05:00I need an emoji beavis * butthead style where the lighter strikes over Beavis' head...
396262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:25:45.7170000-05:00draco+something@notgmail.com is valid and different than draco+somethingelse@notgmail.com A+Computer@notgmail.com A+Plumbing@notgmail.com
397488485682184978442yashsedai2019-07-03T10:28:49.7000000-05:00.....
398564831190390145025denzukoatwork23172019-07-03T10:30:35.9710000-05:00@A. Spencer(jast) I know that scene. only if one can find the gif
399300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:37:23.2020000-05:00Good point, Draco. And a more knowledgeable representation of what I was thinking...
400300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:39:02.0280000-05:00PS: bnf? No idea, so I'll say.... Infinitesimal
401262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:43:56.0910000-05:00Also, many web hosting providers have a way to send all emails that are not defined on the domain to one address. It comes in handy to be able to make up email addresses on the fly because all emails not defined go into your email.
402300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:45:31.3080000-05:00so when I use "dontwanntellya@aliceandbob.com" to sign up for services, some poor bastard at aliceandbob.com actually get an email?
403262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:45:51.4600000-05:00If they have it configured on their hosting provider .. yup
404262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:46:13.8020000-05:00It is a called a Default Email Address
405262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:47:19.2540000-05:00If you really want to be more secure on signups then have them verify via text message or something
406262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:47:29.1020000-05:00text back confirm
407300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:47:45.2910000-05:00yep, but that's a whole new layer of shyte (or 3), I think
408262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:47:51.1310000-05:00I agree
409316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:48:45.1770000-05:00@denzuko-at-work that regex is going to miss a *lot* of stuff. Heck, email addresses can even have multiple '@' characters that aren't a location reference. Email basically allows any ASCII character to the left of the right-most '@' character. Validators aren't supposed to attempt to validate that. As for someone gaming the system, they don't need to use the '+
410316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:48:55.4260000-05:00' method; they could just sign up a new email
411316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:49:03.4820000-05:00unless this gets them something specific and unique
412316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:50:16.7850000-05:00https://haacked.com/archive/2007/08/21/i-knew-how-to-validate-an-email-address-until-i.aspx/
413316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:50:19.4540000-05:00great write up
414262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:50:20.7110000-05:00It will be hard pressed to actually get counted twice for attendance and really that is all that matters as far as honorarium ... unless you can be your own twin....
415262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:51:43.6730000-05:00If the instructor is going to cheat .. they can just use anything
416316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:51:45.7370000-05:00even with the '+', different providers treat it differently. Some providers it's a unique account, some like gmail it's a folder sorting thing
417316809616828923904hon1nbo2019-07-03T10:51:53.1040000-05:00^^ what Draco said
418262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:55:08.2390000-05:00If you want to make it complicated, you could use the text method and/or RFID scan method for members to verify that they are indeed real and only the real people could be counted for attendance .. But is this a real issue? I'm not convinced
419300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:56:49.1720000-05:00except we need to accommodate non-members, too, right?
420300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:57:00.4240000-05:00retinal scan for attendance?
421262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T10:57:02.6710000-05:00hence the text method ...
422300083517877125121andrew51522019-07-03T10:57:16.5060000-05:00ah, misunderstood your intent on that. gotcha now
423115183069555589125aceat642019-07-03T11:18:26.7540000-05:00Gmail ignores periods, so username@gmail and user.name@gmail go to the same place
424115183069555589125aceat642019-07-03T11:18:56.2370000-05:00But if we disallowed periods in an email address, my work email would be invalid
425300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-07-03T11:21:46.6210000-05:00I use the "." in the name for non-members to be able to re-register on Calendar if they accidentally hit the unregister buttondms (1)
426262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T11:22:48.6910000-05:00If someone wants to pick up the calendar software .. the development branch has a patch to allow non-paid registrations to reregister
427262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T11:23:07.4490000-05:00It was never integrated do to lack of testing
428300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-07-03T11:23:55.2920000-05:00Brandon McClain has expressed an interest in doing so, I've asked him to contact @yashsedai for credentials
429262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T11:24:00.4370000-05:00It also shows if a class/event gives or requires an AD group
430262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-07-03T11:24:14.5520000-05:00Good to hear
431300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-07-03T11:24:27.1730000-05:00Two very useful changes, thanks for coding those
432388213344236077056doug.emes2019-07-03T11:44:30.9550000-05:00:+1:
433388213344236077056doug.emes2019-07-05T01:05:38.0780000-05:00https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07HT8MZ7S/
434300075929848381451stansimmons20312019-07-05T13:30:08.2920000-05:00It's an 800 x 480 screen... but not bad for $85
435388213344236077056doug.emes2019-07-06T17:13:50.9310000-05:00Yeah for a crash cart styke
436388213344236077056doug.emes2019-07-06T17:14:34.5400000-05:00Not quite disposable but it, a cheap webcam, and a dms laptop for a teach anywhere at the space setup
437388213344236077056doug.emes2019-07-07T15:30:50.5230000-05:00See yall at 4
438388213344236077056doug.emes2019-07-07T19:05:13.3580000-05:00Minutes posted on wiki👍 (2)
439385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:14:46.5720000-05:00Pasting @yashsedai's thoughts: *"Might suggest they start with the basics. Keeping the classrooms stocked with tables and chairs so they don't have to be shuffled between rooms. Projectors permanently mounted in the rooms."*
440488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:15:25.9680000-05:00If help is needed in procuring projectors or mounts all someone needs to do is ask
441385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:15:42.9210000-05:00@Draco Win is Win Shields.
442262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:15:55.1030000-05:00I guess I've never met the person
443547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:15:59.2140000-05:00I'd also like to see those space-inefficient Z-racks replaced with wall-mounted whiteboards
444547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:16:34.5470000-05:00I am tempted to take a sawzall to those things
445385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:16:38.1590000-05:00He teaches film industry and scriptwriting classes. Says he's a producer.👌 (1)
446262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:16:47.8490000-05:00I would say that if we are going to accuse someone of abusing the calendar or classrooms, we need to have some policy in place defining that
447262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:17:02.4150000-05:00Something we can also talk about
448385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:17:18.4510000-05:00That's the issue.
449385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:17:51.6480000-05:00He's well within our lack of policy
450547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:18:09.6370000-05:00the Z-racks are moderately useful as mobile whiteboards out in the workshop
451385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:18:14.9920000-05:00There are no boundaries
452547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:18:48.6610000-05:00I recall an attempt at a rubric circa 2017 that was met with much screeching
453262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:19:38.2650000-05:00We do have *some* boundaries ... we have a tiered system of who gets the room ... and we have certain classes that are inappropriate ... this really needs to be discussed and proposed to the Education committee and get some classroom policy
454300083517877125121andrew51522019-09-06T13:19:40.3860000-05:00yeah. Everything is someone's sacred cow
455547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:20:16.2780000-05:00thus my skepticism given my recollection that some of the *movers and shakers* in Education were doing the screeching
456488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:20:55.0220000-05:00I think that is the issue here. Education is the roadblock to their success with exceptions
457488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:21:25.1500000-05:00We can discuss this till people are blue in the face. There is no motivation for any of it to change.
458262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:22:01.0480000-05:00We need to define the problem before we develop the solution
459262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:22:11.4790000-05:00What is the issue with Win's classes, for example
460488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:22:11.5550000-05:00The problem is clearly defined
461262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:22:15.2370000-05:00not to me
462262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:22:18.2390000-05:00please explain
463488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:22:34.0590000-05:00What part of one class taking up 4 nights of prime time classroom is hard?
464488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:22:45.9900000-05:00It provides no benefit to us
465488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:22:56.3290000-05:00It eats prime classroom space
466262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:23:09.5630000-05:00Is there room for other classes? Do the classes support our mission?
467488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:24:18.6070000-05:00Considering are mission is open to vast interpretation, thats irrelevant.
468488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:24:36.2530000-05:00As for room for other classes, how would you know if the space is taken up consistently
469262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:25:10.0550000-05:00*quirks head* ... if the mission is irrelevant, what are we doing here? I'm not saying the mission statement either
470488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:25:27.8690000-05:00I know what I'm doing here....
471262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:25:33.3300000-05:00We might have to update the mission statement
472262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:25:51.5020000-05:00to match what we are now here for
473194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:26:08.5370000-05:00That's not the goal
474194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:26:35.9610000-05:00You wanted to make guidelines and now you say we should change the mission instead
475262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:26:47.7460000-05:00It is important because ... this is in the rules "Scheduled classes/events should uphold our Mission Statement"
476547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:26:52.2370000-05:00wow. my skepticism from ~2 years ago is playing out again before my eyes.
477194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:27:06.5430000-05:00Yep
478385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T13:28:02.1590000-05:00Oh god. Why do I even bother.
479194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:28:16.2660000-05:00One issue with his classes is that he pushes other classes out of the primetime slots, doesn't have many members taking them
480194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:28:43.0350000-05:00Much like six sigma did, pulling in random strangers who like to look down on us
481262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:28:47.5100000-05:00What classes is he pushing? That was my first question, are their avaliable rooms for other classes
482194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:28:55.4170000-05:00He only uses us as a free meeting space
483262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:29:01.9810000-05:00if the answer is no .. that makes it more imporatnt
484194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:29:13.4480000-05:00His "acting / writing" classes
485262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:29:36.0090000-05:00I'm not certain that is actually part of our mission ...
486262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:30:16.2650000-05:00but it *may* be complementary to Digital Media
487194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:30:23.3550000-05:00So everyone says a person can just ask him to move, but the population of the space is least likely to want to deal with that potential conflict of asking someone to inconvenience themselves by moving
488194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:30:39.7490000-05:00That goes for any class
489262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:30:52.6130000-05:00Well, what should the policy be?
490194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:31:23.8520000-05:00I don't believe we would ever actually remove a class when the schedule was full up, even if a better suited class showed up.
491194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:31:56.1900000-05:00That's what was being asked of education when you said we should change the mission instead
492262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:32:27.1030000-05:00I'm saying that we should change the mission to what we actually are doing instead of some vague thing
493488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:33:02.5790000-05:00Wait, wait! I have a proposal!
494262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:33:12.0390000-05:00Does it involved potatos?
495488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:34:00.1680000-05:00Sweet Potatoes
496262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:34:17.1770000-05:00lol
497488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:34:22.3610000-05:00mmmm, lurve me some sweet potatoes
498300083517877125121andrew51522019-09-06T13:34:28.2100000-05:00Wasn't there some kind of "waiting list" in the works? Kinda like to see that for teaching space, too. That might help us go "why has basket weaving been waiting for 2 weeks"? "because it needs 35 seats, but the Interactive is always filled with Acting classes" "Oh." "Let's fix that..." Right now, we have no idea what, if anything, letting someone use this as personal studio space is displacing. But, there I go, adding to the problems instead of offering any solutions
499488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:35:02.9200000-05:00I think a waiting list is possible but it would be better if driven by something
500262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:35:04.1090000-05:00Yes there was a queue in the works for some classes
501488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:35:21.3220000-05:00As it stands currently, we can't get people to put up classes due to blue flu
502488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:35:29.7480000-05:00That and major disinformation campaigns
503300083517877125121andrew51522019-09-06T13:35:45.3360000-05:00"blue flu"?
504488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:36:07.0000000-05:00I think a completely reasonable course of action would be that Education head up "educating" the teachers that there are no restrictions on classes being put on the calendar, etc
505262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:36:07.1380000-05:00sorry ... can't give any disinformation for only $25
506300083517877125121andrew51522019-09-06T13:36:17.4530000-05:00and I know stuff has cooled because (my opinion) many folks are confused about just excatly what the hell is going on
507300083517877125121andrew51522019-09-06T13:36:51.0220000-05:00and that's partly because, board down, nobody knows
508488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:36:55.1570000-05:00Blue flue is a reference to police calling out sick en masse to protest a policy decision they didnt care, happens quite a bit in union localities👌 (1)
509545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T13:36:55.7360000-05:00I fully expect a post about this on talk by end of day
510488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:37:00.5550000-05:00oh?
511300083517877125121andrew51522019-09-06T13:37:04.3310000-05:00because the proposal is still being looked at...
512488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:37:18.7910000-05:00What are we posting?
513545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T13:37:28.5210000-05:00It is prime for the disinformation campains😐 (1)
514488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:37:35.0890000-05:00lol yes
515545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T13:37:40.0550000-05:00I'm not posting anything
516488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:37:42.4510000-05:00what will be said?
517262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:37:46.1760000-05:00Can ya'll take this out of Education ?
518545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T13:37:50.4360000-05:00No
519488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:37:53.6110000-05:00can we write our own disinfo?
520262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:38:02.5820000-05:00Damn LOL
521262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:38:52.9690000-05:00I'm thinking outer space mexicans
522194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:39:20.1440000-05:00Arguably education should be *educating* people on how the honorarium system works currently.👍 (4)
523262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:39:27.9000000-05:00Yes I agree
524262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:39:52.1500000-05:00We need a pamphlet for teachers
525262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:40:01.8680000-05:00or people wanting to become teachers
526488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:40:04.8140000-05:00So when can we expect to have one?
527262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:40:33.4940000-05:00There is no such thing as outer space mexicans ... or are you talking about the pamphlets?
528488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:40:55.1680000-05:00Well as outer space mexicans are racist, i'd be talking about the pamphlets
529262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:40:57.6070000-05:00I will have to talk to the committee and see what we can come up with
530262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-06T13:41:25.4660000-05:00Racist? hmmm
531488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:42:04.6030000-05:00🍠
532194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:42:27.0540000-05:00Yeah I'm not sure what you meant by it but my first reaction was to delete that post
533547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:45:37.0560000-05:00I had a framework at one point. can't find it any more.
534547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:46:35.3560000-05:00ah here we go: https://dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/a/a5c2655e518eb14aa700d4e58097e2d32b4e1920.pdf
535547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:46:56.2080000-05:00*score* classes or events using standardized criteria
536547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:47:46.1950000-05:00I recall the rage at this was ~80% *how dare you reduce precious DMS education down to gameable **numbers!***
537547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:48:19.8580000-05:00<20% was useful feedback on the specifics of the framework or alternative means of assessment
538194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:49:55.5910000-05:00The time length could probably be refocused
539545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T13:51:28.1510000-05:00Doug had to put up several of the meetings recently.
540545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T13:51:45.9890000-05:00Where has John been
541194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:52:01.9180000-05:0060 or less (-1) 60-120(0) 120-180(-1) 180+ (-2) Maybe? The goal would be to stay in the 1-2 hour range
542194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:52:29.3220000-05:00But I don't know how that changes the rest of the system
543547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:56:03.4610000-05:00it's not the specific weights so much as it was to develop categories to judge calendar entries by
544547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T13:57:22.9200000-05:00introduce the concept of a *standardized assessment* of calendar events in the event of a conflict and we decide that maybe an organizational meeting is more important than anime club holding a marathon screening of all episodes of Inu Yasha
545488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T13:57:49.4530000-05:00lololol
546194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-06T13:59:31.2840000-05:00But how will we find out what happens to the shinigami world and the internal power struggle within
547547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-06T14:02:36.1270000-05:00crunchyroll-dot-com or some sh_t
548545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T14:06:19.5890000-05:00Well next week I'm taking that lecture hall.
549545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T14:06:31.6860000-05:00Dammit
550385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-06T14:10:10.1180000-05:00Madam President, please do.
551488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-06T14:11:20.9760000-05:00Let me know I can get it on YouTube
552545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-06T14:13:54.2220000-05:00I need some robotic Dobermans
553529874076752150539judykriehn37272019-09-07T06:45:08.0480000-05:00Lara is no gentleman.
554388213344236077056doug.emes2019-09-07T14:13:35.7330000-05:00I'll be driving in Colorado still later today.
555545650746838745089lavarocks.2019-09-09T09:22:08.6850000-05:00Are there minutes from the meeting?
556262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-09T10:19:28.2250000-05:00Yes .. I think someone named Joe was taking them
557262734618447446016draco_the_drake2019-09-09T10:19:53.6270000-05:00@john a gorman ... I can't remember his name
558267128283244527617sinless55552019-09-09T21:44:51.0300000-05:00@Robodude919
559342442054132957185robodude9192019-09-09T22:04:02.7130000-05:00Hey! I took minutes but I wouldn't say I was good at it. I sent them to John Gorman in case they needed reformatting.
560488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-09T22:04:40.2350000-05:00can you post them here?
561388213344236077056doug.emes2019-09-10T07:06:04.9520000-05:00There is a wiki entry preformatted, you can just paste them raw into it, and we can clean it up
562342442054132957185robodude9192019-09-10T07:31:17.4440000-05:00https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/620959482276741140/Education_Committee_Meeting_9.7.19_No_Emails.docx?ex=67b9c395&is=67b87215&hm=66d950d65ea1d74f70fb0122e390f34bc006d898e1232d871d570bf1528bb3bb&
563547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-10T08:15:12.9490000-05:00the current template : https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Committee_Meeting_(Blank)
564388213344236077056doug.emes2019-09-10T08:23:38.9140000-05:00See already use our own but thanks
565388213344236077056doug.emes2019-09-10T08:23:44.9330000-05:00We not see
566547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-10T08:26:58.9040000-05:00every committee their own idea of "minutes" now ... small wonder the bookkeeper is so confused as to what's authorized and what's not👍 (2)
567385477767179010049stephenie.2019-09-10T09:26:33.1580000-05:00From minutes: *"Will need to make a push to get the old printmaking room back."* Is that currently in use as Logisitic's project storage purgatory, @pearce and @AGr?
568488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-10T09:31:08.8390000-05:00that is correct
569488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-10T09:32:54.9760000-05:00Why does education believe that they need the old printmaking room back?
570547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-10T09:34:23.2810000-05:00Presumably that Bad Plan™ of a sub-ceiling-height wall is going to be taken down, thus making that space part of the interactive room again
571547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-10T09:34:52.3500000-05:00I recall the fire marshal making mention of it at some point but have no documentation offhand
572488485682184978442yashsedai2019-09-10T09:34:57.4860000-05:00aye
573547106163842613259nullinterface2019-09-10T11:43:57.1610000-05:00thus, *project purgatory* will relocate once the demo has been arranged. but I don't expect that to happen anytime well in advance of that time.
574194641296529424386canibalcrab2019-09-10T12:54:43.9780000-05:00Especially considering how effective it's been for storage.
575540021655909695488michaelb52502019-10-29T10:27:17.1650000-05:00@doug.emes Will you be around the space this evening? Love to talk about what gets filmed this weekend
576388213344236077056doug.emes2019-10-29T10:42:25.9210000-05:00Yes find me in the weekly RBNO in interactive most of the evening
577488485682184978442yashsedai2019-11-02T22:00:05.4560000-05:00Great job this evening Doug!
578388213344236077056doug.emes2019-11-02T22:48:09.8030000-05:00Thank you will have minutes up tomorrow
579300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-11-19T18:43:49.3240000-06:00Where is the meeting tonight?
580294269552705929216limeytx2019-11-19T18:51:51.2020000-06:00Which meeting?
581300080747673288704kenpurcell2019-11-19T18:54:19.7880000-06:00My understanding is that there is a meeting about education this evening
582388213344236077056doug.emes2019-11-19T23:32:11.0850000-06:00There was a meeting with officers and coordinators that board members were also attending
583388213344236077056doug.emes2019-12-20T20:32:48.4490000-06:00Will post minutes tomorrow, typing up room inventories etc❤️ (2)
584540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-19T10:26:30.7290000-06:00@doug.emes a little premature since we still need board approval, but we talked a bit about a training plan for the new epilog at the meeting. We think the best thing is to do an online supplement, so if you've taken 101 or 102 you can watch some training content, maybe take a short quiz, and that clears you for the fusion. Does that sound possible?
585388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-19T10:44:42.7050000-06:00Absolutely
586540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-19T11:40:39.3700000-06:00Awesome. When we get approval I'll probably have more questions about how to do that, but for now at least we have a good answer for the question of training.
587388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-19T11:44:58.0550000-06:00Whats your availability next weekend? I'll schedule and event and demonstrate the tools I use for maki ng courses
588540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-19T12:04:28.5720000-06:00I mean you don't need to, I think I missed the last one so that's on me. But I am available next weekend, let me check with Kris first since she's been wanting to convert 101 for a long time.
589388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-19T12:49:17.9360000-06:00Lemme know Monday night? I only am planning on attending the mini paint class ,(collision wise)
590540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-19T13:05:40.2950000-06:00Will do, I just messaged her about it.
591540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-20T18:34:11.3840000-06:00@doug.emes We're good with either 12-2 saturday or 1-3 sunday, which works best for you?
592388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-20T19:59:57.3130000-06:00Check9 ng
593388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-20T20:01:23.1550000-06:00Sunday 1to3
594388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-20T20:02:36.6680000-06:00I can create the event
595388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-20T20:15:02.0760000-06:00https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/15117
596388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-20T20:19:44.7780000-06:00Made talk post. Will update wiki tomorrow
597540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-20T21:18:48.5680000-06:00That's great! Thank you
598540021655909695488michaelb52502020-01-26T12:53:25.2780000-06:00@doug.emes running about 10 minutes late, sorry
599388213344236077056doug.emes2020-01-26T14:38:59.6390000-06:00Thanks all for attending
600388213344236077056doug.emes2020-03-14T16:35:44.1890000-05:00Update. Computing lab work ongoing ngf this weekend. Will be allocating the new to us chairs for that room only.
601316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-03-14T16:42:00.9840000-05:00@doug.emes I believe there are already enough chairs in the room
602316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-03-14T16:42:28.4070000-05:00Also any idea what the wood leaning on the wall in here is for?
603388213344236077056doug.emes2020-03-14T16:43:19.6060000-05:00It dates back to ca departure. Was goi g to be for a large table
604388213344236077056doug.emes2020-03-14T16:43:47.4720000-05:00Re chairs. The short stacks need to go back to interactive, and all the theater chairs need to go home to lecture
605388213344236077056doug.emes2020-03-14T16:53:50.5130000-05:00Posted on volunteer oopty
606316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-03-14T17:49:03.9950000-05:00Awesome
607316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-03-14T21:11:26.3940000-05:00@doug.emes what should I do with the wood?
608388213344236077056doug.emes2020-03-15T13:22:46.6370000-05:00I'll talk with joe and get an answer by Tuesday
609388213344236077056doug.emes2020-03-18T14:36:18.4010000-05:00Thanks @aceat64 for the calendar edit.
610115183069555589125aceat642020-03-18T14:36:39.2640000-05:00np
611388213344236077056doug.emes2020-04-13T23:45:59.7990000-05:00@pearce didja mean to lock me out of comm chairs?
612194641296529424386canibalcrab2020-04-14T00:08:14.2370000-05:00:ThinkMultiply:
613194641296529424386canibalcrab2020-04-14T00:08:34.9120000-05:00I think I reset roles a while back
614488485682184978442yashsedai2020-04-14T00:34:20.3670000-05:00Aye ye did
615388213344236077056doug.emes2020-04-14T00:38:18.1690000-05:00==> looks over at right side of discord screen, showing officer 2, board 1, chais 2 (including me)
616388213344236077056doug.emes2020-04-14T00:39:29.7100000-05:00and its avail again, thanks to the powers that be
617388213344236077056doug.emes2020-07-21T23:05:42.9470000-05:00I'll not be putting my name back in for consideration at this time for education coordinator. My family is high risk for covid, so I cannot be at the space very much. Happy to communicate remotely and offer assistance to the next.👍 (2)
618570472690541002764hardsuit2020-07-23T11:18:42.0560000-05:00Dies Education have any input into what they'd want on the streaming cart proposal? Gonna be putting the request up on the August BoD meeting agenda
619388213344236077056doug.emes2020-07-23T11:31:40.4950000-05:00I've commented on the google doc, and certainly am pro using the kiosk approach of it always being ready.
620570472690541002764hardsuit2020-07-23T15:19:31.0540000-05:00Google doc?
621570472690541002764hardsuit2020-07-23T15:20:17.0780000-05:00I didn't make one, and am unaware of any parallel documents
622188482200658903040skyspook2020-07-23T17:47:08.6050000-05:00I had linked one earlier of a draft, but it's really of no consequence
623188482200658903040skyspook2020-07-23T17:47:28.4340000-05:00It was just a description of the reasoning for it
624388213344236077056doug.emes2020-07-29T18:00:22.6560000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/smu-cox-free-webinar-tomorrow-leading-change-in-volatile-times/73546❤️ (1)
625388213344236077056doug.emes2020-09-11T02:29:56.5380000-05:00re: streaming cart... not the same thing, but I REALLY enjoyed watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZANDiX18gk
626570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-11T21:43:25.2820000-05:00This one's pretty good for basic lighting info and gear on the cheap ( home depot)👍 (1)
627570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-11T21:43:28.7020000-05:00https://youtu.be/U61AA-CTc5c
628570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-17T09:42:58.2050000-05:00Streaming/streaming cart SIG. Thoughts? Thinking we need to form one to build up teachers, create classes and procedures, maintain the cart hardware, etc
629570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-17T09:43:53.6480000-05:00Would like to have the first of several train the teachers classes by mid October at the latest.👍 (3)
630316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-09-17T09:58:46.9470000-05:00I'm in
631316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-09-17T09:59:29.3520000-05:00Also, as promised, I have a stream deck to donate to it
632316809616828923904hon1nbo2020-09-17T09:59:44.4360000-05:00If it ends up using OBS❤️ (1)
633570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-17T11:25:57.5200000-05:00StreamDeck doesn't work with StreamlabsOBS?
634194641296529424386canibalcrab2020-09-17T11:27:58.4780000-05:00Doesn't streamlabs want a subscription now
635194641296529424386canibalcrab2020-09-17T11:28:07.3910000-05:00I went back to regular obs
636194641296529424386canibalcrab2020-09-17T11:28:31.9820000-05:00But I switched back because streamlabs was eating ram
637388213344236077056doug.emes2020-09-17T11:36:55.7900000-05:00yes it supportshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306659373965508630/756191969268596976/unknown.png?ex=67b95466&is=67b802e6&hm=9c971741b98bc5ef965a202ba0dabe953793bcdd89ffd717f668067f5e410500&
638388213344236077056doug.emes2020-09-17T11:37:43.4690000-05:00on my personal machine when I plug it in i get to also run hwinfo64 which has been AWESOME to track temp and core freq etc
639570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-17T11:42:11.5790000-05:00Something to discuss as I/we build out the system
640388213344236077056doug.emes2020-09-17T11:42:58.4880000-05:00👍
641388213344236077056doug.emes2020-09-17T11:44:02.8480000-05:00i picked up a sudotack boom arm mic, theres probably a dozen plus vendors selling similar items, 192kHz, USB2, metal housing, sound is improved over my jabra commercial headset
642570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-17T12:05:34.1220000-05:00Got that in the list with two items from monoprice👍 (1)
643570472690541002764hardsuit2020-09-18T13:47:06.3440000-05:00When would be a good time for a Google meet to talk on streaming needs? Thinking Wednesday evening for to start right now, but will have multiple opportunities over next month or so👍 (1)
644388213344236077056doug.emes2020-09-25T18:35:23.2380000-05:00https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/best-online-courses/ Published Sep 21, 2020👍 (1)
645188482200658903040skyspook2020-10-04T20:10:07.9100000-05:00https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/moodle-learn-dallasmakerspace-org/75499 -- Thinking of doing a "this is the basics of getting things onto moodle" class (though not an expert on moodle... yet). Feel free to chime in.👍 (3)
646388213344236077056doug.emes2020-10-19T21:23:43.8400000-05:00a different make art now video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjbt-webmdg
647388213344236077056doug.emes2021-03-15T03:38:49.4090000-05:00example of some quick work in descript to make an audiogram: https://share.descript.com/view/gVQyLq0c9mh
648300080747673288704kenpurcell2021-03-15T09:18:34.0600000-05:00🦈
649529874076752150539judykriehn37272021-03-15T10:01:51.8920000-05:00Why are you awake at 3:30 am?😳
650422448326068142100lastcoolnameleft2021-03-26T23:32:03.1940000-05:00@doug.emes That's pretty neat! That could be a good way to do training for thelab.ms
651388213344236077056doug.emes2021-06-01T17:16:49.7780000-05:00FYHI OBS released major version 27.0 today, can be downloaded directly from GITHUB https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/releases/download/27.0.0/OBS-Studio-27.0-Full-Installer-x64.exe or from their website probably tonight or tomorrow.
652371416661040955403talkers2021-06-01T17:28:41.8700000-05:00Big release?
653977629003185799168chadpursley2023-01-25T14:55:09.6710000-06:00I am not sure what Education committee is, but if there are teachers here I wanted to let you know about a resource. I have been adding some classes to KERA and have been told by participants that they read my events on the radio for Art&Seek. https://artandseek.org/calendar/organization/5447/dallas-makerspace