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[4/28/2017 1:54 AM] bill4934
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[4/28/2017 1:57 AM] canibalcrab
@Bill i added you as @education chair  you now have permission to post in the #committee_chairs room as well


[5/2/2017 8:28 PM] ashley_newland8586
I have a question regarding class fees. Science is planning a 3 part class. We want to charge different fees for members and non-members. Is there a way to do that with the existing calendar system?


[5/2/2017 8:31 PM] aceat64
@education chair


[5/2/2017 8:33 PM] canibalcrab
Bill is opposed to discord. I don't think he's gonna be on here


[5/2/2017 8:35 PM] aceat64
that's unfortunate


[5/2/2017 8:35 PM] missydee12064974
Probably have to use eventbrite


[5/2/2017 8:35 PM] canibalcrab
No they were talking about the DMS charging a fee


[5/2/2017 8:36 PM] canibalcrab
Eventbright takes its own cut


[5/2/2017 8:36 PM] missydee12064974
Ohhh,


[5/2/2017 8:37 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah we used to have it set up where you could charge whatever you want for a class. But the DMS would get 10% etc


[5/3/2017 1:19 AM] bill4934
No, same fees for everybody.  What's wrong with Talk?


[5/3/2017 1:22 AM] canibalcrab
Are you thinking of doing a fee based on % of $ taken in class? Or just a flat fee per class regardless of free or paid class?


[5/3/2017 4:23 AM] bill4934
The web site mentions a discount on some classes for members; that may be what she is proposing.


[5/3/2017 1:07 PM] ashley_newland8586
We want to be able to charge members a discounted rate. So if you are a member you only pay $50 but if you aren't a member you pay more


[5/3/2017 1:07 PM] alerho
So  @Ashley_Newland you can create a class for members only but in the description have an eventbrite link for non members.   It's not ideal but with the current system that is the only way I see it working.      There are some gotchas.   You won't be able to truely limit people.  So if you only have 5 spots and 5 people buy eventbrite and 5 members buy tickets, that's an issue.


[5/3/2017 1:08 PM] alerho
The non members will also see the member price listed in the event but that's not a big deal.


[5/3/2017 1:11 PM] alerho
When this calendar system started finance wanted as little work to go through them so that is why it is the way it is.   It's filled with compromise from finance and classroom at the time.    I hope that before other items are added to the calendar that they think about how it will effect finance and other volunteers.


[5/3/2017 1:14 PM] ashley_newland8586
Thank you so much for the info. It'll be okay we will figure something out.


[5/16/2017 1:22 PM] uglyknees
Silent auction is half way up but won't be live until 10p tonight. Make sure you read everything- lots of info and I'm not done yet. This auction isn't the final bid. Final bid is at the picnic. http://www.32auctions.com/DallasMakerspace17

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[5/16/2017 7:44 PM] thatoneguyoverhere6530
At our Digital Media Committee, several members brought up "Opencast" and question of which committee was working on setting it up or improving it. We agreed that the DM committee will not be focusing on opencast at the moment, so we wanted to pass that message along 😀


[5/17/2017 7:26 AM] .ladyl
Thanks for the update! 
We have a group of members working on it.  Bill Gee, Mark Havens, and Brian Terry seem to be taking the lead on it. :)


[5/24/2017 8:15 PM] robert22
We had a no call no show from Saul Portillo-Menchaca working with Eva foam for cosplay. Who can reach out and find what happened


[5/24/2017 9:01 PM] limeytx
Not sure who that is, when was the class?


[5/25/2017 2:25 AM] kriskat309685
He was there and taught the class.


[6/9/2017 2:52 PM] denzuko
is there a way to create new classes on learn.dallasmakerspace.org or has this changed?


[6/11/2017 3:59 PM] alerho
yeah there is a way


[6/11/2017 4:00 PM] alerho
what are you looking to create? Somethign for VCC or another area?   we have categories and I can create them as needed.


[6/12/2017 2:29 PM] clone1018
Hrm, you can't book things same day on the Calendar? I want to book the Purple classroom for an hour to do light replacements


[6/12/2017 2:30 PM] clone1018
I guess that makes sense


[6/13/2017 11:32 AM] stansimmons2031
For future reference, any of the Calendar Admins can book a room on short notice for projects like that. Come find me, I'd be happy to do that and help with the LED replacements.

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[6/14/2017 1:39 PM] clone1018
Thanks Stan, LED replacements would be very fast if I could just stay on the ladder lol


[6/14/2017 1:39 PM] clone1018
Now that I know its not more crazy I want to get 4 people together to come in one weekend and fix most of the shop


[6/14/2017 1:39 PM] clone1018
got a little bit more organization before that though


[6/14/2017 8:43 PM] toenolla
oof...ok, since general chat is swamped... is there a way to link the DMS calendar to my google calendar?  It'd be nice to have all the classes up on my phone.


[6/14/2017 8:44 PM] clone1018
I couldn't find a way when I tried earlier, I forgot to respond sorry :p


[6/14/2017 8:55 PM] toenolla
No problem. 😃


[6/14/2017 10:18 PM] alerho
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/new-calendar-and-honorarium-process/11144/127 for anyone else that is looking.

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New Calendar and Honorarium process
1.)   This is a feature to draw attention to current classes but people want to be able to see old events.   We will work to show old events but keep focus on newer events.    2.) There is the feed https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/feed that you can add to your google calendar as an ical.  Google instructions https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37100?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en  Add using a link.     3.)  This is a wordpress issue but like @TBJK you can access the full ca...
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[6/17/2017 10:59 AM] toenolla
Thank you Alex!


[7/17/2017 9:45 AM] kenpurcell
Where do the honorarium auditors now discuss pending events requesting honorarium?


[7/17/2017 7:05 PM] stansimmons2031
On the Honorarium Hangout is where I've been seeing sporadic discussion


[7/18/2017 10:17 AM] clone1018
I'm working on a docker compose setup so you can start working on the calendar in a dev environment in like 3 steps


[7/18/2017 10:17 AM] clone1018
So frustrated by setting up ldap lol


[7/18/2017 10:35 AM] denzuko
how are you setting up ldap?


[7/18/2017 10:36 AM] denzuko
Oh and have you tried to setup the dns records (http://www.rjsystems.nl/en/2100-dns-discovery-kerberos.php, http://www.rjsystems.nl/en/2100-dns-discovery-openldap.php)?


[7/20/2017 8:31 AM] themitch22


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[7/20/2017 8:31 AM] themitch22
I'm not sure who makes these but this is the room scheduling for MultiCAM using E-ink displays


[7/20/2017 8:32 AM] themitch22
It would be cool to hack cheap e-readers like this


[7/20/2017 10:05 AM] canibalcrab
Tanner's has a bunch of the e ink screens


[7/20/2017 1:28 PM] alerho
https://www.tindie.com/products/electronictrik/high-tech-e-paper-iot-door-sign/

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[7/20/2017 1:28 PM] alerho
The one you show looks a bit bigger though.


[7/20/2017 3:24 PM] denzuko
we do have several kindle fires that's been configured for the room scheduling kiosks and a few mounts that need redesigning


[7/24/2017 6:21 PM] denzuko
sorry, got caught up in traffic coming from the store and work. on my way for the class I'm holding. be there in a few minutes


[9/29/2017 8:36 PM] denzuko
@education chair I'm trying round up every one for the requirements gathering on mm/calendar revamp and we're needing your input. when is a good time on your schedule for a quick 45min meeting?


[4/9/2018 5:08 PM] alerho
I will not be able to attend the meeting at 6 today.   Is there an agenda?  Who all is running for the chair?


[4/9/2018 7:00 PM] talkers
There was an agenda. I'll post the minutes. In attendance, Bill G, Cairenne, Robin, Stan, and me.  

I ran for Chair unopposed and was elected. Bill is Vice-chair.

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[4/9/2018 7:02 PM] denzuko
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[4/10/2018 12:09 PM] kevpat
OK I payed $120 instead of $25 receipt Glk6
Please don't destroy my self esteem
Be gentle guys


[4/10/2018 12:12 PM] canibalcrab
Again. You need to email finance@dallasmakerspace.org the discord is unofficial and won't get you anything done with requesting a refund on a receipt mistake


[4/10/2018 12:17 PM] kevpat
K


[4/10/2018 4:12 PM] talkers
@Kevin I copied the bookkeeper too. Bookkeeper@dallasmakerspace.org


[4/24/2018 12:16 PM] denzuko
Instructor Pool Process v1.0.0 - Abstracted for committee templating

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[4/24/2018 12:16 PM] denzuko


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[4/24/2018 12:17 PM] denzuko
^ for consideration by the classroom  committee and defining the process to help update calandar/moodle/...


[5/31/2018 4:59 PM] blackfire_tx9040
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[7/9/2018 9:14 PM] talkers
Meeting Weds night


[7/13/2018 6:58 PM] limeytx
Hey John, any idea how long after a class is cancelled, that the room is free'd up on the calendar?


[7/13/2018 6:59 PM] talkers
Should be immediately


[7/13/2018 7:02 PM] cryhavoc21
hey question: so if we need a class to qualify for using a specific tool, what's a good way to see when the next class is or request/help with its scheduling?


[7/13/2018 7:42 PM] davidkessinger9707
What the calendar.  Since classes are taught by volunteers and they typically won't commit to teaching a class more than 3 weeks out (usually 12 days) they don't appear till 10-14 days out.  Nature of the beast.  It would be nie if classes in queue were read only for everybody except the auditors.


[7/13/2018 7:44 PM] cryhavoc21
makes sense. if it's something that we have outside training on something, is there a way we can take a certification test instead of the class?


[7/13/2018 8:30 PM] limeytx
Daniel, what class are you after?


[7/13/2018 10:01 PM] cryhavoc21
The automotive lift. I currently work as general service at a Firestone, so I lift cars on a daily basis. I just want to get clearance for it, and learn that specific type of lift


[7/13/2018 10:20 PM] talkers
The lift class is only about 20-30 min long, the same as a run thru


[7/13/2018 10:24 PM] talkers
Each committee sets the rules on training and verification.

The problem on general certifications, like welding or woodshop, is the time and toll on our volunteers. They need to be compensated for making the trip and setting time aside to teach or verify.

No doubt we have talented, skillful new members join. We still have to show, as you said Daniel, the particulars of our set up, maintenance, safety,and rules.


[7/13/2018 10:24 PM] talkers
The easiest way is to funnel everyone thru the classes


[7/13/2018 10:25 PM] talkers
The extra benefit is the skilled folks are better prepared to teach after.


[7/13/2018 11:05 PM] cryhavoc21
Yep, that all makes perfect sense. I just wanted to ask and see if something was in place, but I can just wait for the next class. I'm going to the next autmotive committee meeting on the 16th I believe, so I can hopefully get plugged into the community then

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[7/14/2018 12:50 PM] davidkessinger9707
Daniel.  When you go to the Automotive Committee meeting talk with Tom if you'd like to be a Lift Instructor.  It would be greatly appreciated.   Classes are pretty much ad hoc when someone would it it and an instructor is available and willing.


[7/14/2018 4:28 PM] cryhavoc21
Sure, once I've been trained I'd be willing to volunteer

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[7/18/2018 3:31 AM] draco_the_drake
@Denzuko.sdf.org ... I have created a permanent "development" branch on the GitHub Calendar 

All, development should be merged into there first.  Then once it is has been QAed and ready for production, then merged into master.  Master needs to stay pristine.   Also, this allows the development branch to be CIed into a different domain for everyone to play with.


[7/20/2018 1:13 PM] limeytx
What is the max capacity for the interactive? Any idea?


[7/20/2018 1:16 PM] canibalcrab
Like by #of seats we have? Or by fire marshal who says we can't have books on brewing?


[7/22/2018 9:37 AM] talkers
@Limey (MReynolds) no idea...


[7/22/2018 9:38 AM] talkers
Today's meeting to review calendar requirements has been cancelled. I'll schedule another meeting soon. @Draco


[7/25/2018 12:10 PM] cryhavoc21
New person question: how do we go about creating classes/getting registered as an instructor? When I joined, some people wanted me to teach classes


[7/25/2018 12:13 PM] canibalcrab
Anyone can teach


[7/25/2018 12:57 PM] cryhavoc21
How does one go about doing that?


[7/25/2018 12:58 PM] canibalcrab
Dallasmakerspace.org/teach


[7/25/2018 1:06 PM] cryhavoc21
Cool, thanks


[8/22/2018 3:03 PM] denzuko
@john a gorman Got a potential volunteer instructor that I'd like to introduce to the space. He'll be heading up classes on CompTIA related course and be a regular contact for the VCC Instructor pool. Think you got time to meet with him?

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[9/21/2018 5:07 PM] denzuko
@here could some fix https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/edit/7850 I put in for this monday and it poped up as November.


[9/21/2018 5:09 PM] talkers
@Denzuko.sdf.org are you sure u didn't pick Nov?


[9/21/2018 5:15 PM] denzuko
damn sure


[9/21/2018 5:17 PM] denzuko
and no this is not the only time that date picker has glitched. I have half a mind to be a dick and blow away the current calendar inplace of one written in node js and react.js. or something that's not going to be such a pain


[9/21/2018 5:18 PM] denzuko
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[9/21/2018 5:19 PM] denzuko
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[9/21/2018 5:20 PM] denzuko
Now there's a datepicker for you https://elemefe.github.io/mint-ui/#/datetime-picker


[9/21/2018 5:22 PM] denzuko
better yet, android supported ui - https://vuematerial.io/components/datepicker

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[12/11/2018 9:56 PM] conic
Found a digital signage thing.


[12/11/2018 9:56 PM] conic
https://getjoan.com/

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[12/11/2018 9:57 PM] conic
A bit pricy, but has an API for integration into our booking system.


[12/12/2018 12:25 AM] talkers
@conic hi. I don't recognize the handle.


[3/20/2019 3:34 PM] mell.jpg
This should probably be changed to education committee btw. @nerds


[3/20/2019 3:34 PM] aceat64
Done


[3/20/2019 3:55 PM] kentamanos
but now it's not in alpha order! 😃

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[3/20/2019 4:03 PM] aceat64
Can't easily fix that on mobile


[3/20/2019 4:15 PM] kentamanos
no rush, timing was just funny with @merissa  comment on infra 😃


[3/20/2019 4:25 PM] merissa4308
Hah!  Didn't even notice this one 😄


[3/20/2019 4:33 PM] kentamanos
it was "classroom" until 3:34 😃


[3/20/2019 5:03 PM] merissa4308
Didn't notice that either 😆   Maybe need to work on my observational skills


[3/20/2019 9:16 PM] doug.emes
Woohoo renamed!


[5/3/2019 9:06 PM] doug.emes
threw up a calendar event for the 18th for the election for this committee of which I am a humble member


[5/3/2019 9:09 PM] doug.emes
and 100% i am NOT running


[5/4/2019 3:59 AM] draco_the_drake
https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/12074


[5/4/2019 3:59 AM] draco_the_drake
I'd vote for ya Doug


[5/4/2019 4:00 AM] draco_the_drake
But this place will suck up all your time if you let it


[5/16/2019 2:10 PM] aceat64
random thought, but how well do we explain to our teachers than they can charge for classes (and keep the proceeds)?


[5/16/2019 2:10 PM] aceat64
might be a win-win for many of the more prolific teachers to charge $10-15/student


[5/16/2019 2:11 PM] aceat64
paradoxically, charging for classes can often _increase_ the number of students who want to take the class, because of the perception of value


[5/16/2019 2:39 PM] lavarocks.
Do you mean solely through Eventbrite?


[5/16/2019 2:40 PM] aceat64
yeah, I think the calendar software has that integrated


[5/16/2019 2:41 PM] lavarocks.
You pay a fee through Eventbrite and then you would only make $10/15 for an hour and a half- that’s minimum wage.


[5/16/2019 2:42 PM] aceat64
I think there's a miscommunication here, I'm saying the teacher could charge per student $10-15 (or more if it's a very highly valued class)


[5/16/2019 2:42 PM] lavarocks.
Ah.


[5/16/2019 2:42 PM] aceat64
at $10/student, a class with 6 students nets the teacher more money, regardless of length


[5/16/2019 2:44 PM] lavarocks.
We did discuss at the last chair vice chair meeting really needing to address the dated software and possibly request to pay for a new calendar system that could integrate Eventbrite AND meetup to bring in new members. I believe Eventbrite has a pretty big fee per payment


[5/16/2019 2:44 PM] aceat64
looks like Eventbrite is 3.5% + $1.79 per ticket


[5/16/2019 2:45 PM] aceat64
we might be able to negotiate a better rate as a non-profit


[5/16/2019 2:46 PM] lavarocks.
I tried it once and wasn’t a fan. Is there anything else out there like it?


[5/16/2019 2:47 PM] aceat64
probably, the other option is just tying the calendar software into a CC processor, though we'd end up being the middle man for processing the payments to the teacher


[5/16/2019 2:48 PM] aceat64
services like Stripe are fairly straightforward to use from an programming standpoint, we'd have to hash out the financial workflow


[5/16/2019 2:48 PM] aceat64
their rate is 2.9%  + $0.30 per transaction


[5/16/2019 2:49 PM] aceat64
(might be lower for non-profits)


[5/16/2019 2:49 PM] aceat64
looks like 2.2% for non-profit


[5/16/2019 2:51 PM] aceat64
at eventbrite's pricing a $10 gets the teacher $7.86 after fees, at $15 that's $12.68


[5/16/2019 2:52 PM] aceat64
so $15/student breakeven with honorarium is at 4 students


[5/16/2019 2:53 PM] aceat64
any teacher with classes regularly over 4 students should really think about charging $15/head


[5/16/2019 2:54 PM] aceat64
example, a 10 student class that paid $15/student is $126.80 for the teacher


[5/16/2019 2:55 PM] doug.emes
Your assuming the free loving as in free beer students will choose to pay.  That's a huge assumption.  The takeaway/proj classes where you pay for materials is usually under 10 and they don't fill


[5/16/2019 2:55 PM] aceat64
I think there's loads of people willing to pay for a class, at the right price point and class qualities


[5/16/2019 2:56 PM] doug.emes
Arguably those classes Arent being taught yet


[5/16/2019 2:56 PM] aceat64
perception of value is important, there's likely plenty of people who see a free class and don't go, because they think there's a catch


[5/16/2019 2:56 PM] doug.emes
Kirk keeters class would have been bgg ut he backed out


[5/16/2019 2:56 PM] timooni
perception of value is a real emotional force that i often feel however, i have been reminding myself lately that if i wouldn't do it if it were free, i probably shouldn't do it


[5/16/2019 2:57 PM] lavarocks.
I charge for materials and they fill but then people no show🤷‍♀️


[5/16/2019 2:57 PM] timooni
such as the ruby on rails course that one guy kept pushing. his friend teaches it, that's great that he tries to support him. but he kept asking after i said no. at that point it's like, really?


[5/16/2019 2:57 PM] aceat64
funny story, my parents had a bunch of stuff they wanted to get rid of, so they put it out front with a sign that said "Free, please take" it sat there for days, my Dad decided instead to put a sign on it that said "For sale, ring door bell" it was stolen within 2 hours


[5/16/2019 2:57 PM] aceat64
(this legit happened)


[5/16/2019 2:58 PM] lavarocks.
Lol


[5/16/2019 2:58 PM] timooni
lol but that's just it though


[5/16/2019 2:58 PM] timooni
if it's free, it's likely defective in their mind right?


[5/16/2019 2:58 PM] timooni
if you have the audacity to ask for money for something left on the lawn, then they think you know there's still some value in that thing


[5/16/2019 2:59 PM] aceat64
exactly, it's the same reason Beats puts weights in their headsets


[5/16/2019 2:59 PM] timooni
but i mean... you can put any price on knowledge and you would have no idea if it's worth anything based on that


[5/16/2019 2:59 PM] aceat64
if it _appears_ cheap, people assume it's because it's bad


[5/16/2019 2:59 PM] aceat64
(that's not a great example, Beats are bad)


[5/16/2019 3:00 PM] timooni
weights are good though


[5/16/2019 3:00 PM] timooni
they are


[5/16/2019 3:00 PM] timooni
lol


[5/16/2019 3:00 PM] timooni
i like things that are heavy


[5/16/2019 3:00 PM] timooni
i like having a heavy keyboard, and a weighted mouse


[5/16/2019 3:00 PM] aceat64
people view phones with metal and glass backs as "better" than the plastic ones, but arguably plastic is a better case material, it just looks/feels cheaper


[5/16/2019 3:01 PM] timooni
depends on the plastic


[5/16/2019 3:02 PM] timooni
plastic does scuff more and that looks ugly. form is important for some people's images. plastic can also crack. Metal and glass both smudge but they can be cleaned. Metal bends and gets hot but is good otherwise


[5/16/2019 3:02 PM] timooni
but


[5/16/2019 3:02 PM] timooni
i would have to argue that backglass is the best way to go, if you do it the way samsung does it


[5/16/2019 3:03 PM] timooni
iphone backglass is an abomination


[5/16/2019 3:03 PM] timooni
but samsung backglass is functional. It can crack. But you can easily take it off and put a new one on yourself for 15 bucks or less.


[5/16/2019 3:04 PM] timooni
thank you for coming to my ted talk there's merch in the back so...


[5/16/2019 3:08 PM] aceat64
hmm another option, if we end up handling the processing directly, could be to have the classes free to members, but cost for non-members, but we still pay the teacher the same per head anyway


[5/16/2019 3:09 PM] aceat64
it would have to be balanced against various factors though


[5/16/2019 3:09 PM] aceat64
general idea would be to encourage non-members to become members, even if just for a class or two


[5/16/2019 3:09 PM] timooni
like an a la carte honorarium that non members would subsidize?


[5/16/2019 3:10 PM] aceat64
something like that


[5/17/2019 1:22 PM] nullinterface
*[back to yesterday's conversation]* ah phone construction materials and all the largely-wasted efforts they put into aesthetics


[5/17/2019 1:23 PM] nullinterface
some huge percentage of the market slaps a case on that phone as soon as they can procure one


[5/17/2019 1:23 PM] nullinterface
thus all those premium materials never ever get looked at


[5/17/2019 1:23 PM] nullinterface
but I guess glass backs are good for one thing - the phones tend not to last as long

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[5/17/2019 1:26 PM] nullinterface
also polycarbonate is one of the better phone materials out there for everything but the screen, which we insist one being left naked while also  demanding scratch resistance


[5/18/2019 6:29 PM] doug.emes
back to actual education committee - we held our meeting and election, and John Gorman has the majority of votes, I updated talk and wil lbe updating the wiki


[5/18/2019 6:29 PM] doug.emes
he is our chairperson elect to be confirmed by the new board


[5/18/2019 8:52 PM] talkers
Nancee has agreed to be vice chair in charge of teacher development


[5/18/2019 8:57 PM] talkers
Thank you  @doug.emes for helping set up the meeting and run it


[5/18/2019 8:58 PM] mizgeek
-waves pom-poms and cheers-


[5/18/2019 9:05 PM] talkers
@MizGeek thank you 😊


[5/18/2019 9:08 PM] mizgeek
You improve anything you touch. 😁


[5/18/2019 10:01 PM] doug.emes
Awesome.


[5/20/2019 10:56 PM] doug.emes
Nice stub on the wiki


[5/21/2019 4:14 PM] doug.emes
edited the wiki to give hotlink to this channel


[5/21/2019 4:14 PM] doug.emes
and added links to jen and my talk handles etc


[5/21/2019 4:15 PM] doug.emes
John if you like ill fix yours, Bill's too (or anyone else) if they ask me too


[5/21/2019 4:59 PM] talkers
@doug.emes that would be great for me. Not sure if bill checks here.

Plus a general link to this channel. But I'm guessing you have already done this 😉


[5/21/2019 5:07 PM] doug.emes
yeah its a perm invite directly to this channel


[5/21/2019 5:07 PM] doug.emes
no expiration, no limits


[5/21/2019 5:16 PM] canibalcrab
The "xyz showed up" notice still shows in general but it'll drop them in this chat


[5/21/2019 5:30 PM] doug.emes
which it should


[5/21/2019 5:30 PM] doug.emes
thanks for having this resource configuered Pearce


[5/22/2019 11:13 AM] doug.emes
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/help-plz-w-conf-rooms-for-a-large-class/56362/6?u=dougemes


[5/22/2019 11:13 AM] doug.emes
I replied @john a gorman but something for us to think about


[5/22/2019 5:46 PM] talkers
@doug.emes thanks for the heads up


[5/22/2019 7:22 PM] merissa4308
Calendar question (think this is the best place to ask)... I just submitted an event and forgot to select a category.  Can it be edited?


[5/22/2019 10:15 PM] stansimmons2031
Admins can edit. What do you need?


[5/22/2019 10:15 PM] canibalcrab
@merissa


[5/22/2019 10:16 PM] stansimmons2031
Oops, forgot.... If it was the commintee meeting/maint. events, I'll go ahead and fix those


[5/22/2019 10:16 PM] merissa4308
Ooh thank you!


[5/22/2019 10:16 PM] merissa4308
Yes, I think I forgot it on the laser committee meeting for 6/2


[5/22/2019 10:17 PM] merissa4308
Laser category should be selected on the maintenance event


[5/22/2019 10:17 PM] stansimmons2031
Meeting fixed and approved. working  maint. event


[5/22/2019 10:18 PM] stansimmons2031
Maint. was already good. approved it too


[5/22/2019 10:18 PM] merissa4308
Thanks!  I'm about to add our monthly meetings for the next six months or so 😀


[5/22/2019 10:19 PM] merissa4308
They don't need rush approval or anything though, unless if you just want to as you see them


[5/22/2019 10:19 PM] stansimmons2031
I'll check back in a while and approve them too

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[5/22/2019 10:28 PM] merissa4308
It would be cool if the calendar had a preview option before you submit your class/event


[5/22/2019 10:28 PM] stansimmons2031
Yes it would, can you or Brandon get on the DMS Github and add that feature request?


[5/22/2019 10:29 PM] merissa4308
I'll ask him


[5/22/2019 10:29 PM] merissa4308
Not sure where to find that myself


[5/22/2019 10:29 PM] draco_the_drake
https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/issues

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[5/22/2019 10:31 PM] merissa4308
Ask and ye shall receive 😁


[5/22/2019 10:31 PM] merissa4308
Thanks guys!


[5/22/2019 10:34 PM] merissa4308
Ack, and I see now that I can edit after it's ~~approved~~ submitted.  I'll do that next time


[5/22/2019 11:39 PM] merissa4308
Request entered.  Thanks @AGr


[5/23/2019 12:08 AM] talkers
Cooler if @AGr  could code the ask


[5/23/2019 12:08 AM] talkers
😉


[5/23/2019 1:08 AM] draco_the_drake
Tell him to fork it and send a Pull Request


[5/24/2019 11:52 AM] aceat64
I'd like to move my class today to what I think is the "North Lobby Classroom" (the room they did the BoD office hours in), it says special permission required, who do I talk to?


[5/24/2019 11:52 AM] aceat64
the move was requested by people who apparently think dying of heat stroke is bad 🤣


[5/24/2019 12:50 PM] stansimmons2031
I moved the Wiki class for you to the N Lobby Classroom


[5/24/2019 12:56 PM] aceat64
thanks


[5/24/2019 1:01 PM] kenpurcell
yep disappointed that we did not get to visit with the landlord today. the purple and orange rooms where to be discussed.


[5/24/2019 3:22 PM] stansimmons2031
New thermostats with remote sensors will help with those rooms. Johnson Controls needs to do a repair on a couple of rtu's


[5/25/2019 12:18 AM] doug.emes
Great class @aceat64


[5/25/2019 1:54 AM] doug.emes
hmm, education committee isnt showing up under active committees, methinks something broke with the original redirect that was set up a couple weeks ago.


[5/25/2019 2:14 AM] talkers
@doug.emes it was when I created the page this week. Let me check the tag


[5/25/2019 2:14 AM] doug.emes
it has the tag


[5/25/2019 2:14 AM] doug.emes
but its not showing up under the subcategory which shows the active committees


[5/25/2019 2:14 AM] doug.emes
and let me know what you think of the formatting


[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] talkers
That is weird. It was working a couple of days ago


[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] talkers


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[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] talkers
It does show here, but the tag is correct for active committees


[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] talkers
{{Active Committee}}


[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] doug.emes
yeah, theres a couple (i think 7)


[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] doug.emes
overall that arent pulling up


[5/25/2019 2:19 AM] doug.emes
in the upper spot


[5/25/2019 2:20 AM] doug.emes
the other thing, and this can be handled latr, is some committees pull by name some pull as category


[5/25/2019 2:20 AM] doug.emes
CA is a redirect to the category when you go to Creative_Arts_Committee


[5/25/2019 2:20 AM] doug.emes
but ours isnt


[5/25/2019 2:20 AM] doug.emes
dunno which is more "right"


[5/25/2019 2:21 AM] talkers
Eduction was showing properly after Education Committee was created and redirect added


[5/25/2019 2:22 AM] doug.emes
theres a chance i goofed it


[5/25/2019 2:22 AM] doug.emes
lemme copy all my editrs to a notepad


[5/25/2019 2:22 AM] doug.emes
and we can try a quick revert


[5/25/2019 2:23 AM] doug.emes
ok i have an offline copy now


[5/25/2019 2:24 AM] doug.emes
wanna try taking it back to the may 21st one


[5/25/2019 2:24 AM] doug.emes
?


[5/25/2019 2:24 AM] talkers
But the code looks right.


[5/25/2019 2:25 AM] talkers
Sure, let's see if it makes a difference


[5/25/2019 2:25 AM] doug.emes
lets have you roll it real quickl


[5/25/2019 2:26 AM] talkers
Wait, me roll it back?


[5/25/2019 2:26 AM] talkers
BTW formatting looks great


[5/25/2019 2:26 AM] doug.emes
for the auidit log


[5/25/2019 2:27 AM] doug.emes
since your the chair


[5/25/2019 2:27 AM] doug.emes
try the  11:25, May 21, 2019  revision


[5/25/2019 2:28 AM] talkers
That's just clicking on the "undo" link, yes?


[5/25/2019 2:28 AM] doug.emes
yes


[5/25/2019 2:28 AM] doug.emes
https://dallasmakerspace.org/w/index.php?title=Education&offset=20190521205237&action=history

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[5/25/2019 2:28 AM] doug.emes
for the undo link for that date


[5/25/2019 2:30 AM] talkers


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[5/25/2019 2:31 AM] talkers
Wrong screenshot


[5/25/2019 2:32 AM] talkers
I think undo only does that edit. That one was small. Doesn't restore state of page


[5/25/2019 2:32 AM] doug.emes
ok hold on


[5/25/2019 2:32 AM] doug.emes
im going hit it with a hammer


[5/25/2019 2:32 AM] talkers
Wait, let me undo that


[5/25/2019 2:33 AM] talkers
Let me try one more thing


[5/25/2019 2:33 AM] doug.emes
yes sir


[5/25/2019 2:33 AM] talkers


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[5/25/2019 2:33 AM] talkers
Hehe


[5/25/2019 2:33 AM] talkers
Try your hammer


[5/25/2019 2:34 AM] doug.emes
ok


[5/25/2019 2:34 AM] doug.emes
1  sec


[5/25/2019 2:36 AM] doug.emes
well removing category:education committee got rid of a recursive link list


[5/25/2019 2:36 AM] doug.emes
but doesnt show the page as a category


[5/25/2019 2:37 AM] doug.emes
i think probably we may have to engage an admin later


[5/25/2019 2:37 AM] doug.emes
once were finished cleaning it up


[5/25/2019 2:37 AM] doug.emes
do you mind haveing the discussion links moved to the top?


[5/25/2019 2:38 AM] doug.emes
i think its better to lead wit that


[5/25/2019 2:40 AM] talkers
All that works for me


[5/25/2019 2:41 AM] doug.emes
im just trying to get us to june to a point where we are current etc


[5/25/2019 2:41 AM] doug.emes
then start working into the other committees


[5/25/2019 2:41 AM] doug.emes
on theirs


[5/25/2019 2:41 AM] doug.emes
let us lead by example


[5/25/2019 3:45 AM] doug.emes
https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Education

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[5/25/2019 3:45 AM] doug.emes
https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Meeting_20190518

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[5/25/2019 3:45 AM] doug.emes
wiki edits done


[5/25/2019 3:45 AM] doug.emes
gnight 'Murica


[5/30/2019 2:15 PM] draco_the_drake
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/guide-to-build-a-group/56801

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I think we can do a lot to help people build a group of people, such as an Interest Group, Project Group, or even a Committee.  I think some people lack confidence or think they will end up doing it all and it will be too much work.  They also may not know how to really start...
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[5/30/2019 5:50 PM] talkers
I'll catch up on that later. I talk to a lot of people about the process.

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[5/30/2019 6:08 PM] draco_the_drake
I think we also might get into how to market your group and bring the public in.


[5/30/2019 6:09 PM] draco_the_drake
... giving tours and getting people to sign the waiver ... also the timer door switch


[5/30/2019 6:09 PM] draco_the_drake
It would be nice to be able to hand someone a booklet


[6/4/2019 11:21 AM] talkers
@Draco I created such a book for PR for the open house & tour guides. It would be good with a new round of committee chairs to have them review their sections.

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[6/4/2019 1:19 PM] denzukoatwork2317
got a digital version I can look over?


[6/4/2019 1:57 PM] judykriehn3727
It's on the PR committee drive.


[6/4/2019 2:58 PM] talkers
The one on the committee drive was a new member handbook also created by Mell as PR chair and others.  Mine was committee focused. I'll get a copy.


[6/4/2019 2:59 PM] talkers
I gave these and a third one to Jo. She wants to work on improving them

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[6/4/2019 3:29 PM] mell.jpg
@Apparently_Weird got with me about the New Member Handbook and I directed him to the committee drive. I had always meant to follow it up with a Committee Chair Handbook and a Teacher Handbook but seeing as how the New Member one was possibly a failure, I never did the others. If PR wants to give it a shot again the whole thing needs heavy updating bc we did it circa 2016 iirc.


[6/4/2019 3:34 PM] andrew5152
why do you view the new member one as a failure? I thought it was a hit...


[6/4/2019 4:13 PM] mell.jpg
Mostly bc it didn't stick without me pushing for it. If truly a success it would've. I'm still super proud of it and the team that created it.    And like with anything DMS, I'm good with us moving on and trying something else. 👍


[6/4/2019 4:15 PM] andrew5152
Roger that.


[6/4/2019 4:20 PM] stansimmons2031
I thought your new member handbook was fantastic. I just didn't have time/energy to print them weekly.


[6/4/2019 4:29 PM] mizgeek
I loved it. I still have mine. It made me more excited about Makerspace when we joined.

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[6/4/2019 4:36 PM] judykriehn3727
I am working on a new member handbook, a brochure, and other things. JJ probably doesn't know that. as I began the discussions with James before the election (. Well, the new member thing was started in November, but the person who insisted on "helping me" never responded. And I did not feel empowered to move forward. But now, I'm six months older and jaded. So I empowered myself.

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[6/4/2019 4:37 PM] andrew5152
Can I get a HELL YEAH!?

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[6/4/2019 4:44 PM] mizgeek
You go!!


[6/4/2019 4:46 PM] mizgeek
And 30-year tech writer is happy to help you if you need it. 😁

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[6/4/2019 11:50 PM] talkers
Excellent!


[6/5/2019 12:14 AM] apparently_weird
Well I didn’t know that but then you let the cat out the bag... 😉 The only question is, how can I support you?


[6/5/2019 2:14 AM] judykriehn3727
Pm me an email address so I can send you word files to look at text?


[6/5/2019 11:20 AM] andrew5152
If it's collaboration you're after, the G-suite works pretty darned well for file hosting, etc. And if you can use Google Docs, et.al. for your creation, more power to you, because that brings extra-enhancy functionality to the collaboration process such as simultaneous editing, comments, etc. instead of having to ship files all over tarnation via email. 
But if you're insistent on old-school file sharing, you can use "the committee drive" to accomplish similar tasks, just shipping short email requests around the globe rather than full-blown files.
all of which I presume you uns already know, but just in case, I thought it'd toss it out there...


[6/5/2019 11:23 AM] judykriehn3727
Well, first off, I hate google docs. Not so much interested in "collaboration" as in being able to share the file format I'm working in without standing on my left foot while whistling Also Sprach Zarathustra. Being 61 and cranky has it's limitations.


[6/5/2019 11:29 AM] andrew5152
Preach on, sister! Hate google too. But when you're working with an org that already has it in place... (there's some expression about Romans or something...)
youuns do what works for you. Sometimes people are excited by what's already on tap. Sometimes, they'd rather bottle their own. No bother to me either way...


[6/24/2019 5:41 PM] denzukoatwork2317
not looking for who but a reason why would be great to why VCC's classes got cancelled?


[6/24/2019 5:43 PM] draco_the_drake
We got new calendar admins that are stricken with strictness .. honorarium class have to be about making per the rules


[6/24/2019 5:44 PM] denzukoatwork2317
wow... even the make a mame cabinet got cancelled


[6/24/2019 5:44 PM] denzukoatwork2317
"Details    Build a full size Arcade machine with a Raspberry"


[6/24/2019 5:44 PM] draco_the_drake
You can and should correct them via the board


[6/24/2019 5:45 PM] draco_the_drake
That is what was said


[6/24/2019 5:46 PM] denzukoatwork2317
well that one was going to vector..


[6/24/2019 5:46 PM] draco_the_drake
It doesn't matter .. it shouldn't have been rejected


[6/24/2019 5:46 PM] denzukoatwork2317
agreed


[6/24/2019 5:46 PM] draco_the_drake
You do know about all the stuff that went on in the committee chair meeting?


[6/24/2019 5:47 PM] draco_the_drake
They are limiting honorarium total dollars per month both committee and payments to $15000


[6/24/2019 5:48 PM] draco_the_drake
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/information-about-last-nights-meeting-6-20-19-with-the-board-chairs/58064/82


[6/24/2019 5:51 PM] draco_the_drake
Several committees and teachers are not happy


[6/24/2019 5:51 PM] draco_the_drake
and think the numbers are BS


[6/24/2019 5:53 PM] draco_the_drake
Oh and Infra and Logistics are now Groups with Freddy being the decider officers for Infra ... and Pearce being the decider officer for Logistics ... they can pick and choose who and what gets done


[6/24/2019 5:53 PM] draco_the_drake
and who attends or has say


[6/24/2019 5:56 PM] draco_the_drake
.... no more committee chair elections either .. normal committees still vote to nominate ... groups do not require a vote


[6/24/2019 6:00 PM] canibalcrab
@denzuko-at-work I haven't seen the mame cabinet class write up but I assume it was rejected for being a "watch me work" kind or a workshop style class.  Maybe a rewrite would help


[6/24/2019 6:01 PM] canibalcrab
Like another example would be 3d fab can't buy a cr10 and get honorarium for a "let's build a printer class"


[6/24/2019 6:02 PM] canibalcrab
Or better example, logistics couldn't have gotten one for the weld a table event


[6/24/2019 6:03 PM] draco_the_drake
Unless you were teaching a practical class on how to weld and using the tables as an example and place for people to learn ... each person welds a leg for example


[6/24/2019 6:04 PM] canibalcrab
That would have been a welding class with the tables just as an opportunity. I'm just saying he might be able to resubmit. It should have had a reason. Or message the auditors


[6/24/2019 6:06 PM] denzukoatwork2317
there's a shopping list for members to bring in the materials and be guided otherwise they'll be doing the building as a team (with supervision) and installing the software on thier own


[6/24/2019 6:07 PM] michaelb5250
Hmmm... 'how to build a printer' a 10+ part class, with a big up front materials fee but you walk out with an i3 clone all made at the makerspace.


[6/24/2019 6:10 PM] michaelb5250
Might not need that many parts, but there would be some homework like 'print all these parts before the 5th class'...


[6/24/2019 6:10 PM] canibalcrab
Mitch tried that once


[6/24/2019 6:10 PM] canibalcrab
It was kits tho


[6/24/2019 6:23 PM] michaelb5250
I'll have to ask him about it... I'm afraid it'd turn into a lot of teaching people who have never used a printer before.


[6/24/2019 6:26 PM] denzukoatwork2317
sounds like the usual. Most that attend our programming classes either a) already programmers and feel underskilled or b) have no understanding of any the basics and we have to tailor for the least common denominator to make attendance


[6/24/2019 8:30 PM] lavarocks.
I ran both the ctf and lockpicking classes before the board before denying them. I didnt deny the cabinet but you should have received a reason in the email.


[6/25/2019 8:59 AM] kenpurcell
The writeup was a group project. Optionally there was a shopping list if they wanted to build their own: 

About this Event
We’ll be making a full size cabinet to be hosted in the Interactive Computer Museum which runs RetroPI. Why have a full size cabinet in VCC’s ICM? Because after getting a donation of a vintage 19" server computer case that can support multiple motherboards. Rackie McRack will be hosting several retro boards, (some in customized cases, some in drop in configurations) and we’re able to install a kvm switch which the Mame Cab will interface with.

To build one's own they must use the following shopping lists: https://www.amazon.com/ideas/amzn1.account.AFZSV7IEXCYVDTA2FUEEFMKZ3OCA/WCAR0BLRJ9XV?ref=idea_cp_vl_ov_d

We'll be following the instructable in: https://www.instructables.com/id/Full-Size-Arcade-Cabinet-Using-Raspberry-Pi/

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RetroPi Cab Class
-- Idea List by Dwight A Spencer
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Full Size Arcade Cabinet Using Raspberry-Pi
Full Size Arcade Cabinet Using Raspberry-Pi: How to build a full size MAME (Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) Arcade Cabinet.I had wanted to build a arcade machine for a long time and was surprised how easy it was to build. My design is based on an instructable by ExperiMende...
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[6/25/2019 11:14 AM] talkers
Looks legit


[6/25/2019 8:46 PM] doug.emes
Are u going g to schedule a meeting for the committee for June?


[6/25/2019 9:24 PM] draco_the_drake
Update: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/vcc-committee-report-06-2019/57983/3

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VCC Committee Report 06/2019
Update @Team_VCC be aware that all of our classes got cancelled without warning or reason.  Below is the updated classes:  Build an Arcade Cabinet class:    Midnight Hackers CTF: https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/13148    Locksport 101    Same days, same times...
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[6/26/2019 8:48 AM] lavarocks.
Interesting, I seem to remember giving a reason/explanation. This is exactly  how rumors start.


[6/26/2019 5:33 PM] talkers
@doug.emes looking at 7/7.  I wanted this next Sunday, but it needs to be 10 days out


[6/26/2019 5:34 PM] talkers
@Lavarocks yes, a reason was in the rejection. Not sure if Dwight got it though

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[6/26/2019 5:34 PM] canibalcrab
Only elections need to be that far out


[6/26/2019 5:37 PM] talkers
@pearce thanks. Well, 5 days notice might still be too little for attendance


[6/26/2019 5:37 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah


[6/27/2019 11:58 AM] denzukoatwork2317
no I didn't get a notice on the rejection or a reason.


[6/27/2019 11:59 AM] denzukoatwork2317
where do we post that? email right?


[6/27/2019 1:48 PM] mell.jpg
It's been a while since I've seen my test cases for what members see when a rejection is given but yes I believe it would've come as part of the rejection email.


[6/27/2019 2:28 PM] lavarocks.
I'll submit a test Mell


[6/27/2019 2:57 PM] denzukoatwork2317
ok. so then I'll need to set a filter in gmail to make sure it flags things like that. What's the address those rejection email come from?


[6/27/2019 3:06 PM] stansimmons2031
@Lavarocks I just saw your test and rejected it.


[6/27/2019 3:26 PM] lavarocks.


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[6/27/2019 3:42 PM] stansimmons2031
Cool, what was the sender string?


[6/27/2019 4:25 PM] lavarocks.
Admin@dallasmakerspace.org


[6/27/2019 4:33 PM] mell.jpg
@Lavarocks yeah I just did a test earlier today too after I posted this. You can see it in the rejection list. Great minds or whatever.


[6/27/2019 4:38 PM] lavarocks.
Did you notice the typo in the rejection? I just noticed it and now I'm twitchy. Lol


[6/27/2019 4:51 PM] michaelb5250
Even I noticed it!

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[6/27/2019 7:37 PM] doug.emes
I pity the fool who doesn't use my letter

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[6/27/2019 9:27 PM] judykriehn3727
@Lavarocks  shoulda used dejected.  So dejected I’m rejected.


[7/3/2019 10:01 AM] denzukoatwork2317
well.. just found a potential exploit of the calendar system that could lead to gaming the honorarium system.  email+random@domain is not parsed thus treated like a new person


[7/3/2019 10:02 AM] denzukoatwork2317


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[7/3/2019 10:02 AM] denzukoatwork2317
Zek Odun    dwightaspencer+testacct@gmail.com    5129208169    No    Confirmed    View


[7/3/2019 10:03 AM] denzukoatwork2317
I'm removing that one but its going on the back log of items in github to fix


[7/3/2019 10:12 AM] denzukoatwork2317
https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/issues/105

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[7/3/2019 10:15 AM] andrew5152
I feel stupid asking, but... how can you guard against this? Isn't this a "feature" of email? And... how does the calendar know that dwightaspencer+testacct@gmail.com is NOT valid and/or the same as {x}?


[7/3/2019 10:16 AM] denzukoatwork2317
adding a validator to the model which uses regex: /\w+\\+.*@.*\\.{com|org|net|edu}/


[7/3/2019 10:17 AM] denzukoatwork2317
if the validator finds an entry that the regex returns true then there's an existing email/user registered


[7/3/2019 10:18 AM] denzukoatwork2317
false then the validator allows the model to commit the record


[7/3/2019 10:18 AM] denzukoatwork2317
most languages; a few lines of code


[7/3/2019 10:20 AM] andrew5152
my (weak) regex-fu is overtaxed with that expression... what, roughly, in Englishish, is it checking?


[7/3/2019 10:20 AM] denzukoatwork2317
ok how's your bnf?


[7/3/2019 10:21 AM] denzukoatwork2317
<alphanum> "+" <alphanum> "@" <domain>


[7/3/2019 10:21 AM] denzukoatwork2317
the delta here is we're expressly looking for the "+" instead of <alphanum> "@" <domain>

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[7/3/2019 10:22 AM] andrew5152
ah. So a literal plus sign between the two <alphanum>s?


[7/3/2019 10:22 AM] denzukoatwork2317
yes


[7/3/2019 10:23 AM] denzukoatwork2317
the second <alphanum> gets ignored in context of testing if an entity exists


[7/3/2019 10:24 AM] denzukoatwork2317
for identity its allowed if unique


[7/3/2019 10:25 AM] andrew5152
I need an emoji beavis * butthead style where the lighter strikes over Beavis' head...


[7/3/2019 10:25 AM] draco_the_drake
draco+something@notgmail.com is valid and different than draco+somethingelse@notgmail.com

A+Computer@notgmail.com
A+Plumbing@notgmail.com


[7/3/2019 10:28 AM] yashsedai
.....


[7/3/2019 10:30 AM] denzukoatwork2317
@A. Spencer(jast) I know that scene. only if one can find the gif


[7/3/2019 10:37 AM] andrew5152
Good point, Draco. And a more knowledgeable representation of what I was thinking...


[7/3/2019 10:39 AM] andrew5152
PS: bnf? No idea, so I'll say.... Infinitesimal


[7/3/2019 10:43 AM] draco_the_drake
Also, many web hosting providers have a way to send all emails that are not defined on the domain to one address.   It comes in handy to be able to make up email addresses on the fly because all emails not defined go into your email.


[7/3/2019 10:45 AM] andrew5152
so when I use "dontwanntellya@aliceandbob.com" to sign up for services, some poor bastard at aliceandbob.com actually get an email?


[7/3/2019 10:45 AM] draco_the_drake
If they have it configured on their hosting provider .. yup


[7/3/2019 10:46 AM] draco_the_drake
It is a called a Default Email Address


[7/3/2019 10:47 AM] draco_the_drake
If you really want to be more secure on signups then have them verify via text message or something


[7/3/2019 10:47 AM] draco_the_drake
text back confirm


[7/3/2019 10:47 AM] andrew5152
yep, but that's a whole new layer of shyte (or 3), I think


[7/3/2019 10:47 AM] draco_the_drake
I agree


[7/3/2019 10:48 AM] hon1nbo
@denzuko-at-work that regex is going to miss a *lot* of stuff. Heck, email addresses can even have multiple '@' characters that aren't a location reference. 
Email basically allows any ASCII character to the left of the right-most '@' character. Validators aren't supposed to attempt to validate that.
As for someone gaming the system, they don't need to use the '+


[7/3/2019 10:48 AM] hon1nbo
' method; they could just sign up a new email


[7/3/2019 10:49 AM] hon1nbo
unless this gets them something specific and unique


[7/3/2019 10:50 AM] hon1nbo
https://haacked.com/archive/2007/08/21/i-knew-how-to-validate-an-email-address-until-i.aspx/

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[7/3/2019 10:50 AM] hon1nbo
great write up


[7/3/2019 10:50 AM] draco_the_drake
It will be hard pressed to actually get counted twice for attendance and really that is all that matters as far as honorarium ... unless you can be your own twin....


[7/3/2019 10:51 AM] draco_the_drake
If the instructor is going to cheat .. they can just use anything


[7/3/2019 10:51 AM] hon1nbo
even with the '+', different providers treat it differently. Some providers it's a unique account, some like gmail it's a folder sorting thing


[7/3/2019 10:51 AM] hon1nbo
^^ what Draco said


[7/3/2019 10:55 AM] draco_the_drake
If you want to make it complicated, you could use the text method and/or RFID scan method for members to verify that they are indeed real and only the real people could be counted for attendance .. But is this a real issue?  I'm not convinced


[7/3/2019 10:56 AM] andrew5152
except we need to accommodate non-members, too, right?


[7/3/2019 10:57 AM] andrew5152
retinal scan for attendance?


[7/3/2019 10:57 AM] draco_the_drake
hence the text method ...


[7/3/2019 10:57 AM] andrew5152
ah, misunderstood your intent on that. gotcha now


[7/3/2019 11:18 AM] aceat64
Gmail ignores periods, so username@gmail and user.name@gmail go to the same place


[7/3/2019 11:18 AM] aceat64
But if we disallowed periods in an email address, my work email would be invalid


[7/3/2019 11:21 AM] stansimmons2031
I use the "." in the name for non-members to be able to re-register on Calendar if they accidentally hit the unregister button

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[7/3/2019 11:22 AM] draco_the_drake
If someone wants to pick up the calendar software .. the development branch has a patch to allow non-paid registrations to reregister


[7/3/2019 11:23 AM] draco_the_drake
It was never integrated do to lack of testing


[7/3/2019 11:23 AM] stansimmons2031
Brandon McClain has expressed an interest in doing so, I've asked him to contact @yashsedai  for credentials


[7/3/2019 11:24 AM] draco_the_drake
It also shows if a class/event gives or requires an AD group


[7/3/2019 11:24 AM] draco_the_drake
Good to hear


[7/3/2019 11:24 AM] stansimmons2031
Two very useful changes, thanks for coding those


[7/3/2019 11:44 AM] doug.emes
:+1:


[7/5/2019 1:05 AM] doug.emes
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07HT8MZ7S/


[7/5/2019 1:30 PM] stansimmons2031
It's an 800 x 480 screen... but not bad for $85


[7/6/2019 5:13 PM] doug.emes
Yeah for a crash cart styke


[7/6/2019 5:14 PM] doug.emes
Not quite disposable but it, a cheap webcam, and a dms laptop for a teach anywhere at the space setup


[7/7/2019 3:30 PM] doug.emes
See yall at 4


[7/7/2019 7:05 PM] doug.emes
Minutes posted on wiki

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[9/6/2019 1:14 PM] stephenie.
Pasting @yashsedai's thoughts:
*"Might suggest they start with the basics. Keeping the classrooms stocked with tables and chairs so they don't have to be shuffled between rooms.  Projectors permanently mounted in the rooms."*


[9/6/2019 1:15 PM] yashsedai
If help is needed in procuring projectors or mounts all someone needs to do is ask


[9/6/2019 1:15 PM] stephenie.
@Draco Win is Win Shields.


[9/6/2019 1:15 PM] draco_the_drake
I guess I've never met the person


[9/6/2019 1:15 PM] nullinterface
I'd also like to see those space-inefficient Z-racks replaced with wall-mounted whiteboards


[9/6/2019 1:16 PM] nullinterface
I am tempted to take a sawzall to those things


[9/6/2019 1:16 PM] stephenie.
He teaches film industry and scriptwriting classes.  Says he's a producer.

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[9/6/2019 1:16 PM] draco_the_drake
I would say that if we are going to accuse someone of abusing the calendar or classrooms, we need to have some policy in place defining that


[9/6/2019 1:17 PM] draco_the_drake
Something we can also talk about


[9/6/2019 1:17 PM] stephenie.
That's the issue.


[9/6/2019 1:17 PM] stephenie.
He's well within our lack of policy


[9/6/2019 1:18 PM] nullinterface
the Z-racks are moderately useful as mobile whiteboards out in the workshop


[9/6/2019 1:18 PM] stephenie.
There are no boundaries


[9/6/2019 1:18 PM] nullinterface
I recall an attempt at a rubric circa 2017 that was met with much screeching


[9/6/2019 1:19 PM] draco_the_drake
We do have *some* boundaries ... we have a tiered system of who gets the room ... and we have certain classes that are inappropriate ...  this really needs to be discussed and proposed to the Education committee and get some classroom policy


[9/6/2019 1:19 PM] andrew5152
yeah. Everything is someone's sacred cow


[9/6/2019 1:20 PM] nullinterface
thus my skepticism given my recollection that some of the *movers and shakers* in Education were doing the screeching


[9/6/2019 1:20 PM] yashsedai
I think that is the issue here. Education is the roadblock to their success with exceptions


[9/6/2019 1:21 PM] yashsedai
We can discuss this till people are blue in the face. There is no motivation for any of it to change.


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] draco_the_drake
We need to define the problem before we develop the solution


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] draco_the_drake
What is the issue with Win's classes, for example


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] yashsedai
The problem is clearly defined


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] draco_the_drake
not to me


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] draco_the_drake
please explain


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] yashsedai
What part of one class taking up 4 nights of prime time classroom is hard?


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] yashsedai
It provides no benefit to us


[9/6/2019 1:22 PM] yashsedai
It eats prime classroom space


[9/6/2019 1:23 PM] draco_the_drake
Is there room for other classes?   Do the classes support our mission?


[9/6/2019 1:24 PM] yashsedai
Considering are mission is open to vast interpretation, thats irrelevant.


[9/6/2019 1:24 PM] yashsedai
As for room for other classes, how would you know if the space is taken up consistently


[9/6/2019 1:25 PM] draco_the_drake
*quirks head* ... if the mission is irrelevant, what are we doing here?   I'm not saying the mission statement either


[9/6/2019 1:25 PM] yashsedai
I know what I'm doing here....


[9/6/2019 1:25 PM] draco_the_drake
We might have to update the mission statement


[9/6/2019 1:25 PM] draco_the_drake
to match what we are now here for


[9/6/2019 1:26 PM] canibalcrab
That's not the goal


[9/6/2019 1:26 PM] canibalcrab
You wanted to make guidelines and now you say we should change the mission instead


[9/6/2019 1:26 PM] draco_the_drake
It is important because ... this is in the rules "Scheduled classes/events should uphold our Mission Statement"


[9/6/2019 1:26 PM] nullinterface
wow.  my skepticism from ~2 years ago is playing out again before my eyes.


[9/6/2019 1:27 PM] canibalcrab
Yep


[9/6/2019 1:28 PM] stephenie.
Oh god.  Why do I even bother.


[9/6/2019 1:28 PM] canibalcrab
One issue with his classes is that he pushes other classes out of the primetime slots, doesn't have many members taking them


[9/6/2019 1:28 PM] canibalcrab
Much like six sigma did, pulling in random strangers who like to look down on us


[9/6/2019 1:28 PM] draco_the_drake
What classes is he pushing?   That was my first question, are their avaliable rooms for other classes


[9/6/2019 1:28 PM] canibalcrab
He only uses us as a free meeting space


[9/6/2019 1:29 PM] draco_the_drake
if the answer is no .. that makes it more imporatnt


[9/6/2019 1:29 PM] canibalcrab
His "acting / writing" classes


[9/6/2019 1:29 PM] draco_the_drake
I'm not certain that is actually part of our mission ...


[9/6/2019 1:30 PM] draco_the_drake
but it *may* be complementary to Digital Media


[9/6/2019 1:30 PM] canibalcrab
So everyone says a person can just ask him to move, but the population of the space is least likely to want to deal with that potential conflict of asking someone to inconvenience themselves by moving


[9/6/2019 1:30 PM] canibalcrab
That goes for any class


[9/6/2019 1:30 PM] draco_the_drake
Well, what should the policy be?


[9/6/2019 1:31 PM] canibalcrab
I don't believe we would ever actually remove a class when the schedule was full up, even if a better suited class showed up.


[9/6/2019 1:31 PM] canibalcrab
That's what was being asked of education when you said we should change the mission instead


[9/6/2019 1:32 PM] draco_the_drake
I'm saying that we should change the mission to what we actually are doing instead of some vague thing


[9/6/2019 1:33 PM] yashsedai
Wait, wait! I have a proposal!


[9/6/2019 1:33 PM] draco_the_drake
Does it involved potatos?


[9/6/2019 1:34 PM] yashsedai
Sweet Potatoes


[9/6/2019 1:34 PM] draco_the_drake
lol


[9/6/2019 1:34 PM] yashsedai
mmmm, lurve me some sweet potatoes


[9/6/2019 1:34 PM] andrew5152
Wasn't there some kind of "waiting list" in the works?
Kinda like to see that for teaching space, too.
That might help us go "why has basket weaving been waiting for 2 weeks"?
"because it needs 35 seats, but the Interactive is always filled with Acting classes"
"Oh." "Let's fix that..."
Right now, we have no idea what, if anything, letting someone use this as personal studio space is displacing.
But, there I go, adding to the problems instead of offering any solutions


[9/6/2019 1:35 PM] yashsedai
I think a waiting list is possible but it would be better if driven by something


[9/6/2019 1:35 PM] draco_the_drake
Yes there was a queue in the works for some classes


[9/6/2019 1:35 PM] yashsedai
As it stands currently, we can't get people to put up classes due to blue flu


[9/6/2019 1:35 PM] yashsedai
That and major disinformation campaigns


[9/6/2019 1:35 PM] andrew5152
"blue flu"?


[9/6/2019 1:36 PM] yashsedai
I think a completely reasonable course of action would be that Education head up "educating" the teachers that there are no restrictions on classes being put on the calendar, etc


[9/6/2019 1:36 PM] draco_the_drake
sorry ... can't give any disinformation for only $25


[9/6/2019 1:36 PM] andrew5152
and I know stuff has cooled because (my opinion) many folks are confused about just excatly what the hell is going on


[9/6/2019 1:36 PM] andrew5152
and that's partly because, board down, nobody knows


[9/6/2019 1:36 PM] yashsedai
Blue flue is a reference to police calling out sick en masse to protest a policy decision they didnt care, happens quite a bit in union localities

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[9/6/2019 1:36 PM] lavarocks.
I fully expect a post about this on talk by end of day


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] yashsedai
oh?


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] andrew5152
because the proposal is still being looked at...


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] yashsedai
What are we posting?


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] lavarocks.
It is prime for the disinformation campains

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[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] yashsedai
lol yes


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] lavarocks.
I'm not posting anything


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] yashsedai
what will be said?


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] draco_the_drake
Can ya'll take this out of Education ?


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] lavarocks.
No


[9/6/2019 1:37 PM] yashsedai
can we write our own disinfo?


[9/6/2019 1:38 PM] draco_the_drake
Damn LOL


[9/6/2019 1:38 PM] draco_the_drake
I'm thinking outer space mexicans


[9/6/2019 1:39 PM] canibalcrab
Arguably education should be *educating* people on how the honorarium system works currently.

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[9/6/2019 1:39 PM] draco_the_drake
Yes I agree


[9/6/2019 1:39 PM] draco_the_drake
We need a pamphlet for teachers


[9/6/2019 1:40 PM] draco_the_drake
or people wanting to become teachers


[9/6/2019 1:40 PM] yashsedai
So when can we expect to have one?


[9/6/2019 1:40 PM] draco_the_drake
There is no such thing as outer space mexicans ... or are you talking about the pamphlets?


[9/6/2019 1:40 PM] yashsedai
Well as outer space mexicans are racist, i'd be talking about the pamphlets


[9/6/2019 1:40 PM] draco_the_drake
I will have to talk to the committee and see what we can come up with


[9/6/2019 1:41 PM] draco_the_drake
Racist?   hmmm


[9/6/2019 1:42 PM] yashsedai
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[9/6/2019 1:42 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah I'm not sure what you meant by it but my first reaction was to delete that post


[9/6/2019 1:45 PM] nullinterface
I had a framework at one point.  can't find it any more.


[9/6/2019 1:46 PM] nullinterface
ah here we go:
https://dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/a/a5c2655e518eb14aa700d4e58097e2d32b4e1920.pdf


[9/6/2019 1:46 PM] nullinterface
*score* classes or events using standardized criteria


[9/6/2019 1:47 PM] nullinterface
I recall the rage at this was ~80% *how dare you reduce precious DMS education down to gameable **numbers!***


[9/6/2019 1:48 PM] nullinterface
<20% was useful feedback on the specifics of the framework or alternative means of assessment


[9/6/2019 1:49 PM] canibalcrab
The time length could probably be refocused


[9/6/2019 1:51 PM] lavarocks.
Doug had to put up several of the meetings recently.


[9/6/2019 1:51 PM] lavarocks.
Where has John been


[9/6/2019 1:52 PM] canibalcrab
60 or less (-1) 
60-120(0) 
120-180(-1) 
180+ (-2) 
Maybe? 
The goal would be to stay in the 1-2 hour range


[9/6/2019 1:52 PM] canibalcrab
But I don't know how that changes the rest of the system


[9/6/2019 1:56 PM] nullinterface
it's not the specific weights so much as it was to develop categories to judge calendar entries by


[9/6/2019 1:57 PM] nullinterface
introduce the concept of a *standardized assessment* of calendar events in the event of a conflict and we decide that maybe an organizational meeting is more important than anime club holding a marathon screening of all episodes of Inu Yasha


[9/6/2019 1:57 PM] yashsedai
lololol


[9/6/2019 1:59 PM] canibalcrab
But how will we find out what happens to the shinigami world and the internal power struggle within


[9/6/2019 2:02 PM] nullinterface
crunchyroll-dot-com or some sh_t


[9/6/2019 2:06 PM] lavarocks.
Well next week I'm taking that lecture hall.


[9/6/2019 2:06 PM] lavarocks.
Dammit


[9/6/2019 2:10 PM] stephenie.
Madam President, please do.


[9/6/2019 2:11 PM] yashsedai
Let me know I can get it on YouTube


[9/6/2019 2:13 PM] lavarocks.
I need some robotic Dobermans


[9/7/2019 6:45 AM] judykriehn3727
Lara is no gentleman.


[9/7/2019 2:13 PM] doug.emes
I'll be driving in Colorado still later today.


[9/9/2019 9:22 AM] lavarocks.
Are there minutes from the meeting?


[9/9/2019 10:19 AM] draco_the_drake
Yes .. I think someone named Joe was taking them


[9/9/2019 10:19 AM] draco_the_drake
@john a gorman  ... I can't remember his name


[9/9/2019 9:44 PM] sinless5555
@Robodude919


[9/9/2019 10:04 PM] robodude919
Hey! I took minutes but I wouldn't say I was good at it. I sent them to John Gorman in case they needed reformatting.


[9/9/2019 10:04 PM] yashsedai
can you post them here?


[9/10/2019 7:06 AM] doug.emes
There is a wiki entry preformatted, you can just paste them raw into it, and we can clean it up


[9/10/2019 7:31 AM] robodude919


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[9/10/2019 8:15 AM] nullinterface
the current template : 
https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Committee_Meeting_(Blank)

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[9/10/2019 8:23 AM] doug.emes
See already use our own but thanks


[9/10/2019 8:23 AM] doug.emes
We not see


[9/10/2019 8:26 AM] nullinterface
every committee their own idea of "minutes" now ... small wonder the bookkeeper is so confused as to what's authorized and what's not

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[9/10/2019 9:26 AM] stephenie.
From minutes:  *"Will need to make a push to get the old printmaking room back."*
Is that currently in use as Logisitic's project storage purgatory, @pearce and @AGr?


[9/10/2019 9:31 AM] yashsedai
that is correct


[9/10/2019 9:32 AM] yashsedai
Why does education believe that they need the old printmaking room back?


[9/10/2019 9:34 AM] nullinterface
Presumably that Bad Plan™ of a sub-ceiling-height wall is going to be taken down, thus making that space part of the interactive room again


[9/10/2019 9:34 AM] nullinterface
I recall the fire marshal making mention of it at some point but have no documentation offhand


[9/10/2019 9:34 AM] yashsedai
aye


[9/10/2019 11:43 AM] nullinterface
thus, *project purgatory* will relocate once the demo has been arranged.  but I don't expect that to happen anytime well in advance of that time.


[9/10/2019 12:54 PM] canibalcrab
Especially considering how effective it's been for storage.


[10/29/2019 10:27 AM] michaelb5250
@doug.emes Will you be around the space this evening? Love to talk about what gets filmed this weekend


[10/29/2019 10:42 AM] doug.emes
Yes find me in the weekly RBNO in interactive most of the evening


[11/2/2019 10:00 PM] yashsedai
Great job this evening Doug!


[11/2/2019 10:48 PM] doug.emes
Thank you will have minutes up tomorrow


[11/19/2019 6:43 PM] kenpurcell
Where is the meeting tonight?


[11/19/2019 6:51 PM] limeytx
Which meeting?


[11/19/2019 6:54 PM] kenpurcell
My understanding is that there is a meeting about education this evening


[11/19/2019 11:32 PM] doug.emes
There was a meeting with officers and coordinators that board members were also attending


[12/20/2019 8:32 PM] doug.emes
Will post minutes tomorrow, typing up room inventories etc

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[1/19/2020 10:26 AM] michaelb5250
@doug.emes a little premature since we still need board approval, but we talked a bit about a training plan for the new epilog at the meeting. 

We think the best thing is to do an online supplement, so if you've taken 101 or 102 you can watch some training content, maybe take a short quiz, and that clears you for the fusion. Does that sound possible?


[1/19/2020 10:44 AM] doug.emes
Absolutely


[1/19/2020 11:40 AM] michaelb5250
Awesome. When we get approval I'll probably have more questions about how to do that, but for now at least we have a good answer for the question of training.


[1/19/2020 11:44 AM] doug.emes
Whats your availability next weekend?  I'll schedule and event and demonstrate the tools I use for maki ng courses


[1/19/2020 12:04 PM] michaelb5250
I mean you don't need to, I think I missed the last one so that's on me. But I am available next weekend, let me check with Kris first since she's been wanting to convert 101 for a long time.


[1/19/2020 12:49 PM] doug.emes
Lemme know Monday night?  I only am planning on attending the mini paint class ,(collision wise)


[1/19/2020 1:05 PM] michaelb5250
Will do, I just messaged her about it.


[1/20/2020 6:34 PM] michaelb5250
@doug.emes We're good with either 12-2 saturday or 1-3 sunday, which works best for you?


[1/20/2020 7:59 PM] doug.emes
Check9 ng


[1/20/2020 8:01 PM] doug.emes
Sunday 1to3


[1/20/2020 8:02 PM] doug.emes
I can create the event


[1/20/2020 8:15 PM] doug.emes
https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/15117


[1/20/2020 8:19 PM] doug.emes
Made talk post. Will update wiki tomorrow


[1/20/2020 9:18 PM] michaelb5250
That's great! Thank you


[1/26/2020 12:53 PM] michaelb5250
@doug.emes running about 10 minutes late, sorry


[1/26/2020 2:38 PM] doug.emes
Thanks all for attending


[3/14/2020 4:35 PM] doug.emes
Update.  Computing lab work ongoing ngf this weekend.  Will be allocating the new to us chairs for that room only.


[3/14/2020 4:42 PM] hon1nbo
@doug.emes I believe there are already enough chairs in the room


[3/14/2020 4:42 PM] hon1nbo
Also any idea what the wood leaning on the wall in here is for?


[3/14/2020 4:43 PM] doug.emes
It dates back to ca departure. Was goi g to be for a large table


[3/14/2020 4:43 PM] doug.emes
Re chairs.  The short stacks need to go back to interactive, and all the theater chairs need to go home to lecture


[3/14/2020 4:53 PM] doug.emes
Posted on volunteer oopty


[3/14/2020 5:49 PM] hon1nbo
Awesome


[3/14/2020 9:11 PM] hon1nbo
@doug.emes what should I do with the wood?


[3/15/2020 1:22 PM] doug.emes
I'll talk with joe and get an answer by Tuesday


[3/18/2020 2:36 PM] doug.emes
Thanks @aceat64 for the calendar edit.


[3/18/2020 2:36 PM] aceat64
np


[4/13/2020 11:45 PM] doug.emes
@pearce  didja mean to lock me out of comm chairs?


[4/14/2020 12:08 AM] canibalcrab
:ThinkMultiply:


[4/14/2020 12:08 AM] canibalcrab
I think I reset roles a while back


[4/14/2020 12:34 AM] yashsedai
Aye ye did


[4/14/2020 12:38 AM] doug.emes
==> looks over at right side of discord screen, showing officer 2, board 1, chais 2 (including me)


[4/14/2020 12:39 AM] doug.emes
and its avail again, thanks to the powers that be


[7/21/2020 11:05 PM] doug.emes
I'll not be putting my name back in for consideration at this time for education coordinator.  My family is high  risk for covid, so I cannot be at the space very much.  Happy to communicate remotely and offer assistance to the next.

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[7/23/2020 11:18 AM] hardsuit
Dies Education have any input into what they'd want on the streaming cart proposal?  Gonna be putting the request up on the August BoD meeting agenda


[7/23/2020 11:31 AM] doug.emes
I've commented on the google doc, and certainly am pro using  the kiosk approach of it always being ready.


[7/23/2020 3:19 PM] hardsuit
Google doc?


[7/23/2020 3:20 PM] hardsuit
I didn't make one, and am unaware of any parallel documents


[7/23/2020 5:47 PM] skyspook
I had linked one earlier of a draft, but it's really of no consequence


[7/23/2020 5:47 PM] skyspook
It was just a description of the reasoning for it


[7/29/2020 6:00 PM] doug.emes
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/smu-cox-free-webinar-tomorrow-leading-change-in-volatile-times/73546

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[9/11/2020 2:29 AM] doug.emes
re: streaming cart... not the same thing, but I REALLY enjoyed watching this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZANDiX18gk

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[9/11/2020 9:43 PM] hardsuit
This one's pretty good for basic lighting info and gear on the cheap ( home depot)

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[9/11/2020 9:43 PM] hardsuit
https://youtu.be/U61AA-CTc5c

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[9/17/2020 9:42 AM] hardsuit
Streaming/streaming cart SIG.  Thoughts?  Thinking we need to form one to build up teachers, create classes and procedures, maintain the cart hardware, etc


[9/17/2020 9:43 AM] hardsuit
Would like to have the first of several train the teachers classes by mid October at the latest.

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[9/17/2020 9:58 AM] hon1nbo
I'm in


[9/17/2020 9:59 AM] hon1nbo
Also, as promised, I have a stream deck to donate to it


[9/17/2020 9:59 AM] hon1nbo
If it ends up using OBS

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[9/17/2020 11:25 AM] hardsuit
StreamDeck doesn't work with StreamlabsOBS?


[9/17/2020 11:27 AM] canibalcrab
Doesn't streamlabs want a subscription now


[9/17/2020 11:28 AM] canibalcrab
I went back to regular obs


[9/17/2020 11:28 AM] canibalcrab
But I switched back because streamlabs was eating ram


[9/17/2020 11:36 AM] doug.emes
yes it supports

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[9/17/2020 11:37 AM] doug.emes
on my personal machine when I plug it in i get to also run hwinfo64 which has been AWESOME to track temp and core freq etc


[9/17/2020 11:42 AM] hardsuit
Something to discuss as I/we build out the system


[9/17/2020 11:42 AM] doug.emes
👍


[9/17/2020 11:44 AM] doug.emes
i picked up a sudotack boom arm mic, theres probably a dozen plus vendors selling similar items, 192kHz, USB2, metal housing, sound is improved over my jabra commercial headset


[9/17/2020 12:05 PM] hardsuit
Got that in the list with two items from monoprice

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[9/18/2020 1:47 PM] hardsuit
When would be a good time for a Google meet to talk on streaming needs? Thinking Wednesday evening for to start right now, but will have multiple opportunities over next month or so

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[9/25/2020 6:35 PM] doug.emes
https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/best-online-courses/  Published Sep 21, 2020

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[10/4/2020 8:10 PM] skyspook
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/moodle-learn-dallasmakerspace-org/75499 -- Thinking of doing a "this is the basics of getting things onto moodle" class (though not an expert on moodle... yet). Feel free to chime in.

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[10/19/2020 9:23 PM] doug.emes
a different make art now video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjbt-webmdg

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[3/15/2021 3:38 AM] doug.emes
example of some quick work in descript to make an audiogram:  https://share.descript.com/view/gVQyLq0c9mh

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Overdub times 3 example for Lasers - Descript
This is the Don Announcer voice in Descript, and this audiogram will demonstrate 3 separate additional voices.  
They are Henry, Emily, and a synthetic version of Doug Emes created from reading 15 min
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[3/15/2021 9:18 AM] kenpurcell
🦈


[3/15/2021 10:01 AM] judykriehn3727
Why are you awake at 3:30 am?😳


[3/26/2021 11:32 PM] lastcoolnameleft
@doug.emes That's pretty neat!  That could be a good way to do training for thelab.ms


[6/1/2021 5:16 PM] doug.emes
FYHI OBS released major version 27.0 today, can be downloaded directly from GITHUB https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/releases/download/27.0.0/OBS-Studio-27.0-Full-Installer-x64.exe  or from their website probably tonight or tomorrow.


[6/1/2021 5:28 PM] talkers
Big release?


[1/25/2023 2:55 PM] chadpursley
I am not sure what Education committee is, but if there are teachers here I wanted to let you know about a resource. I have been adding some classes to KERA and have been told by participants that they read my events on the radio for Art&Seek. 
 https://artandseek.org/calendar/organization/5447/dallas-makerspace

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