============================================================== Guild: DallasMakerspace Channel: Committees / laser Topic: Committee meetings held the First Sunday of the month from 11am - noon, followed by Maintenance Day from noon - 2pm. ============================================================== [4/7/2017 10:53 PM] canibalcrab So laser has 15k in the bank for laser [4/7/2017 10:54 PM] canibalcrab What options are we looking at for this kind of stuff [4/7/2017 10:56 PM] jphelps Sharks? [4/7/2017 10:57 PM] canibalcrab I was thinking more lasers before we put them on sharks. [4/7/2017 10:57 PM] canibalcrab Could get a better epilog. Or another thunder. [4/7/2017 10:58 PM] canibalcrab Should probably get spare tubes for the machines we have [4/8/2017 1:34 AM] merissa4308 Are epilogs significantly more expensive than thunder? Dont think we have the funds for that yet. [4/8/2017 1:35 AM] merissa4308 Since we just decided to put money into the saur I'd prefer to get spare tubes and parts, improve the area more, and continue to save up for a while longer for a new laser [4/8/2017 3:09 AM] canibalcrab yeah spare tube for sure [4/8/2017 3:14 AM] canibalcrab epilogs are very expensive, we could probabyl get one a bit larger than the zzing for like 15k [4/8/2017 3:15 AM] merissa4308 One luke or alex and I were looking at online was like 45k [4/8/2017 3:16 AM] merissa4308 Think it was like​ 2x3. Long way to go to save up for that [4/8/2017 3:24 AM] canibalcrab yeah thats a big one [4/8/2017 3:24 AM] canibalcrab they are far better at rasters and high dpi though [4/8/2017 7:50 AM] furious_jorge Last year I backed this kickstarter. Codex Silenda. This is my next laser project https://www.codexsilenda.com/gallery {Embed} https://www.codexsilenda.com/gallery codex-silenda [4/8/2017 1:31 PM] canibalcrab That was definitely cool when I saw it. Would be awesome to make [4/10/2017 10:02 AM] furious_jorge They've finally finished the final final set of files. I'm going to give it ago in a few weeks. [4/10/2017 10:05 AM] .ladyl 👍👍 [4/10/2017 12:13 PM] clk9431 I may be asking for a Zing mentor soon. I thought Saur would be the hardest machine, but for whatever reason, I'm not getting a print from Zing. I was hoping to try the linoleum stamp thing this week. Is there a Zing master out there that would let me watch the next time they cut something? I could probably pick up enough by watching to figure out what I'm doing wrong. [4/11/2017 5:33 PM] canibalcrab whats your file type? [4/11/2017 5:47 PM] clk9431 PDF. But I think the problem is that I'm not using vector to draw before saving. I'm taking John's Inkscape class tomorrow. I know not to print from Inkscape on Zing, but it will help to understand vector drawing better. I managed to raster a couple of things today, but could not do it a second time. Something in the print sequence, I think. One was from Acrobat, another from AI. It's definitely new territory for me. [4/11/2017 5:49 PM] canibalcrab you cant print direct from inkscape. have to go the convoluted route. ie inkscape >pdf>adobe reader> print to zing [4/11/2017 5:50 PM] merissa4308 Yes it sounds like file type and path errors. Your paths have to be a certain stroke size for the zing to recognize it. I can't remember the number.... 0.01 inches maybe? It's in the book and in the laser class info book on the wiki but unfortunately dont have time to look it up right now [4/11/2017 5:50 PM] clk9431 0.001 for a cut. [4/11/2017 5:50 PM] canibalcrab it REALLY doesnt like inkscape files [4/11/2017 5:51 PM] merissa4308 It sounds like John's class will be really helpful for these kinds of questions [4/11/2017 5:53 PM] merissa4308 And thanks, couldnt remember how many zeros [4/11/2017 5:54 PM] clk9431 I'll get there. It will take longer than I expected. Should be a sign posted everywhere at DMS. 😉 [4/11/2017 5:54 PM] canibalcrab i have created "roles" for the individual lasers. this will allow people to get pinged for specific machines for help instead of all at once. if you would like to be added to a role for a machine let me know which ones you feel proficient in ie zing, thunder or saur [4/11/2017 5:54 PM] canibalcrab this is kind of a test bed for the roles [4/11/2017 5:58 PM] clk9431 Such a great idea. Thanks for your effort. Same idea was shot down on Talk a few days ago. I think it makes a lot of sense, though. You can put me to sewing if you move to other areas. [4/11/2017 6:02 PM] merissa4308 Looking for feedback... The other day John suggested installing RDWorks on the Zing computer since it is used less than Thunder so people can work on settings while waiting in queue. I have my thoughts on this but wanted to query the group. Good idea or no? [4/11/2017 6:02 PM] merissa4308 Will post in the hangout too since we're in transition [4/11/2017 6:03 PM] canibalcrab cant hurt but could hinder use on the zing, [4/11/2017 6:04 PM] canibalcrab the computers arent for designing [4/11/2017 6:04 PM] canibalcrab we put rdworks on the jump right? they could use their personal computer to prep files [4/11/2017 6:06 PM] merissa4308 That's my thought too. I dont want to encourage people to hog the computers, because that's already kind of a problem as it is [4/11/2017 6:06 PM] canibalcrab yes [4/11/2017 6:07 PM] merissa4308 Ok thanks for the feedback! Unless somebody makes a compelling argument, I'm saying no [4/11/2017 6:08 PM] canibalcrab @lukeiamyourfather one of us. one of us. [4/11/2017 6:08 PM] redbeardedpirate Yeah yeah yeah [4/11/2017 6:11 PM] canibalcrab ill win this fight somehow [4/11/2017 6:12 PM] merissa4308 I'm with ya. I'm really liking everything in one place not mixed in with my personal hangout chats [4/11/2017 7:00 PM] tomthm9900 Speaking of the Zing, it feels cramped I'm doing something on the Zing itself and when someone is working at the Thunder computer. What if the Zing and its computer were swapped? May not be any better, but what if the Zing were on the left end of the table? [4/11/2017 7:06 PM] canibalcrab merissa was talking about changing the layout up some [4/11/2017 7:10 PM] merissa4308 Yes, I want to do that asap but will be out of state for a week and a half starting next week [4/11/2017 7:11 PM] merissa4308 I'd like to have a laser area workday on maybe April 30th [4/11/2017 7:11 PM] merissa4308 Would people be available to help that day? [4/11/2017 7:11 PM] canibalcrab probably [4/11/2017 9:09 PM] clk9431 I can after 2pm. [4/11/2017 9:46 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Cindy! [4/11/2017 9:47 PM] merissa4308 Asking people on the hangout too, and will put it on the calendar soon [4/11/2017 9:49 PM] canibalcrab Get those holdouts in here [4/11/2017 9:51 PM] canibalcrab Wear cloths that can get dirty, bring gloves, .Aybe a respirator [4/11/2017 9:51 PM] canibalcrab The lasers are dirty. Moving them will not be clean [4/11/2017 9:53 PM] clk9431 The cleaning lady told me today that she really wanted to organize the stuff behind Saur for the scrap pile. I told her that the pile(s) were our problem; we'd handle it. That said, we kind of need to handle it soon. I'm the queen of that particular scrap pile having scavenged from it greatly the last couple of weeks. Mind if I take it on tomorrow? [4/11/2017 9:55 PM] merissa4308 The scrap pile is a point of frustration for me as it gets so full and hard to be usable without getting stabbed by a sharp corner of something [4/11/2017 9:55 PM] merissa4308 So I'd be very appreciative if you want to organize/clean it up [4/11/2017 9:56 PM] merissa4308 I do occasionally but it's hard to keep up with [4/11/2017 9:56 PM] clk9431 I figure anything more narrow than a couple of inches isn't going to be of use. I'd also like to separate it between wood, acrylic, and cardboard. [4/11/2017 9:56 PM] merissa4308 Yes! That would be great! Thank you! [4/11/2017 9:57 PM] clk9431 Will do. [4/11/2017 9:57 PM] merissa4308 👍 [4/11/2017 9:58 PM] merissa4308 When we reorganize I'd like to shrink it down some [4/11/2017 9:58 PM] clk9431 Girl power in play here. I have a couple of ideas that might sync with yours. [4/11/2017 10:00 PM] merissa4308 Awesome :) if you want to share before the 30th let me know [4/11/2017 10:01 PM] clk9431 We'll see how well I pull it off tomorrow. Let you know after that. [4/11/2017 10:05 PM] merissa4308 Sounds good :) [4/11/2017 10:33 PM] canibalcrab We used to have a rule that scrap that wasn't 4x4 inch or had 16² inches of usability wasn't supposed to go on the shelf [4/11/2017 10:34 PM] canibalcrab But no one fucking breaks up the tiny end parts on the large stuff so the pile is full of huge holes [4/11/2017 10:34 PM] merissa4308 I like it! Time to reinstate! [4/11/2017 10:34 PM] merissa4308 Yes that's what drives me nuts [4/11/2017 10:35 PM] canibalcrab I was going to suggest we make a 4x4 clear acrylic square and engrave it with the rule [4/11/2017 10:35 PM] canibalcrab Then hang it with some Paracord so you can hold it over the scrap to check [4/11/2017 10:35 PM] canibalcrab Scrap should be covered in the class too... [4/11/2017 10:36 PM] merissa4308 I like it, and having separate spots for different materialz [4/11/2017 10:41 PM] canibalcrab Yeah I was thinking about making more dividers and some lables [4/11/2017 10:42 PM] canibalcrab Maybe more shelves for the horizontal so it doesn't get so heavy [4/11/2017 10:44 PM] merissa4308 Maybe crazy idea... What about shallow bins you could pull out from the bottom shelf under the work table [4/11/2017 10:45 PM] merissa4308 Thinking something smaller so people have to break the pieces down to just what's usable [4/11/2017 10:45 PM] canibalcrab Could try to fit bins into the big table [4/11/2017 10:46 PM] canibalcrab It's more engineering than the slats I was going to make for the current shelf [4/11/2017 10:46 PM] canibalcrab What do you want to do with the stuff under the table currently? [4/11/2017 10:48 PM] merissa4308 First figure out what all of it is [4/11/2017 10:52 PM] canibalcrab The big question is does it fit any of our current lasers [4/11/2017 10:54 PM] merissa4308 Good poont [4/11/2017 10:54 PM] merissa4308 *point [4/11/2017 10:55 PM] merissa4308 And need a better way to lock up lenses and stuff we dont want walking off [4/11/2017 10:56 PM] merissa4308 Would prefer to have something like this instead of the toolboxes https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Classics-UltraHD-Rolling-UHD20205B/dp/B001E91SQQ [4/12/2017 6:58 AM] clk9431 I was thinking of labeling vertical storage between foam (added that), cardboard, acrylic, and wood. Then I think it makes sense to divide the horizontal storage (maybe leaving out cardboard) for smaller pieces. The one thing I've not been able to come up with is something to cut with that helps tame all those jagged edges before you put something to the bin. (Maybe a hanging utility knife?) Also, perhaps an understanding that if you shelve something for free material, you need to grab a lesser quality piece and put it to the trash? Definitely a little maker hoarder thinking going on for those shelves. I totally understand (see also fabric), but it does become impractical after a while. [4/12/2017 7:29 AM] merissa4308 All that sounds good to me and I truly appreciate the effort, but just fyi it could change in a few weeks. So if you're ok with that I am too :) On the work day on the 30th I want to figure out a smaller scrap shelf option in hopes of it being more usable. [4/12/2017 8:14 AM] clk9431 Sure. It won't take long. I'm just going to hand-write labels. [4/12/2017 8:14 AM] clk9431 Might be a good test to see if it even holds before coming up with something more specific [4/12/2017 8:47 AM] merissa4308 👍 [4/12/2017 3:45 PM] clk9431 Done. Looks darn good, but I doubt it stays that way. Took about 45 minutes. I'd propose a few drawers/bins for smaller pieces, but I know change is coming, so it's best to let it wait. [4/12/2017 3:55 PM] merissa4308 Yay! [4/12/2017 3:55 PM] merissa4308 Hmm was about to ask for pics but will be there tonight anyways :) [4/12/2017 3:55 PM] merissa4308 Let's hope it can stay clean that long! [4/12/2017 3:57 PM] merissa4308 Will probably make a talk post encouraging people to be more excellent and clean up after themselves [4/12/2017 11:46 PM] redbeardedpirate There's a new heatsink by the lasersaur computer with a label on it [4/12/2017 11:46 PM] redbeardedpirate I meant to install it but won't be able to in the near future [4/12/2017 11:46 PM] redbeardedpirate Anyone feel free to do it if you have the time 👍 [4/13/2017 9:37 AM] clk9431 Is there paste in electronics? [4/13/2017 9:38 AM] clk9431 Or do they still do that? [4/13/2017 10:51 AM] canibalcrab I don't think they would have thermal paste for PCs [4/13/2017 10:53 AM] clk9431 My stash is in WI. I'll let myself off the hook with this one. [4/13/2017 10:54 AM] clk9431 Wish I could figure out the Infrastructure/committee division on the PCs, though. Rather confusing as to who does what. [4/13/2017 10:55 AM] canibalcrab I might have some from my last build. Usually the new CPU coolers have it pre applied because people are dumb as hell now days [4/13/2017 10:56 AM] clk9431 Yeah. Like forgetting to peel the plastic. I'll check if it's still out next time I'm there. [4/13/2017 12:06 PM] clk9431 Nevermind. That heatsink could take on Godzilla. Not gonna touch it. I'm a simple girl. Best to stick to simple tasks... [4/13/2017 12:25 PM] coderzer0hkarl3670 Don't they come with thermal tape stuff now on the bottom? [4/13/2017 12:53 PM] canibalcrab Hopefully [4/13/2017 1:22 PM] clk9431 It did. I just wasn't up to pulling the motherboard. It's been a couple of years, and it's not my machine. 😃 {Reactions} 👍 [4/13/2017 1:42 PM] canibalcrab haha yeah thats why it didnt happen last night either [4/13/2017 1:42 PM] coderzer0hkarl3670 😃 [4/13/2017 3:16 PM] themitch22 I have thermal paste i can do it when I come by tonight [4/13/2017 3:16 PM] themitch22 I'll forget so if you see me remind me [4/13/2017 3:18 PM] canibalcrab cindy said it had thermal stuff on it already, you just need to be ready to take the entire mobo off to do the swap [4/13/2017 3:26 PM] themitch22 eww [4/13/2017 3:26 PM] themitch22 ok [4/13/2017 3:26 PM] themitch22 I did the other laser computer, I'm sure this one needs to be blown out too [4/13/2017 5:43 PM] clk9431 *bowing in gratitude* I appreciate your effort. [4/13/2017 5:44 PM] clk9431 Worst computer I ever cleaned out was a daily pot smoker who also kept a rabbit and a cat as pets. Hazmat would have been useful if I'd thought ahead. [4/13/2017 5:44 PM] canibalcrab did he keep it on the floor too? [4/13/2017 5:44 PM] clk9431 Oh yes. [4/13/2017 5:44 PM] canibalcrab perfect [4/13/2017 5:45 PM] clk9431 Honestly. Defined my moment as the neighborhood computer geek. Almost topped the porn I picked off a girlfriend's unit, but not quite. 😉 [4/13/2017 5:48 PM] canibalcrab thats always awkward when a friend asks you to fix a pc. just click past it [4/13/2017 5:50 PM] clk9431 I learned my lesson. Maybe that's why we keep such ridiculously small hard drives on PCs at the 'space? [4/13/2017 5:51 PM] clk9431 Less of an opportunity to store your favorites. [4/13/2017 5:51 PM] canibalcrab ahahahah im gonna jinx it but hard drives overflowing with porn hasnt been a problem at the space {Reactions} ☣ [4/13/2017 5:52 PM] clk9431 😉 [4/17/2017 10:48 PM] themitch22 Anyone know where the other lenses are for the thunder laser [4/17/2017 10:48 PM] themitch22 like the HD lens [4/18/2017 9:17 PM] canibalcrab All of the lens holders have been recovered [4/18/2017 9:39 PM] .ladyl 🖒🖒 [4/18/2017 11:06 PM] merissa4308 Fyi guys - I'm out if state with spotty cell service for the next week so if anything big comes up that I can't respond to timely I defer to Luke and Pearce [4/18/2017 11:12 PM] .ladyl Have fun! [4/21/2017 2:35 PM] .ladyl https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/advice-fixing-emblazer/20487?u=lisaselk {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/advice-fixing-emblazer/20487?u=lisaselk Advice fixing Emblazer We have a little Emblazer that was acquired for work and it's having issues moving on the gantry horizontally without a while lotta angry skipping that dislocates the belts and kills the tension. The bearings are definitely snagging Is there a certain kind of lube that must be used? If the lube doesn't fix it will someone advise on repair? https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [4/25/2017 12:13 AM] merissa4308 Got back in late tonight. Thanks to all who handled things in my absence [4/25/2017 12:16 AM] merissa4308 @pearce it says I dont have access to the committee chairs chat [4/25/2017 12:25 AM] merissa4308 Is there news no one told me about? 😋 [4/25/2017 12:35 AM] canibalcrab Oops. Let me get online and sort out all the new chairs [4/25/2017 12:35 AM] canibalcrab And yes. [4/25/2017 12:36 AM] merissa4308 Yes news? [4/25/2017 12:44 AM] canibalcrab sorry i forgot to add you to the other chairs group [4/25/2017 12:46 AM] merissa4308 No problem, thanks for fixing [4/25/2017 9:58 AM] canibalcrab @merissa sorry, you missed the acrylic and wood donation because I forgot to add the chairs role to you. That's where Alex gave chairs first dibs [4/25/2017 9:59 AM] canibalcrab I did ask for some of the plywood so we could use it for the scrap shelf [4/25/2017 10:11 AM] merissa4308 That's ok. Thanks for getting some of it! Thinking towards area clean up would be good to make some wall mounted shelves to display lasered items to solve the issue of stuff floating around on top of the lasers [4/26/2017 7:29 PM] redbeardedpirate {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/306950019229941761/IMG_20170426_192856.jpg?ex=67b91a7b&is=67b7c8fb&hm=a93c6b76cc8fd3db341bfd0cfd8134cd7d7e6b5f023594fcc9722475876fe983& [4/26/2017 7:30 PM] redbeardedpirate Lasersaur motherboard from Austria [4/26/2017 7:30 PM] .ladyl 🖒 [4/26/2017 7:45 PM] canibalcrab That metal case though [4/26/2017 7:45 PM] canibalcrab TAKE THAT RF NOISE! [4/26/2017 9:18 PM] clk9431 So the upgrade is on? [4/26/2017 9:23 PM] canibalcrab For the saur [4/27/2017 1:48 AM] themitch22 yay!!! [4/27/2017 1:48 AM] themitch22 Lasersaur FTW [4/27/2017 1:48 AM] themitch22 Luke if you need help with the lasersaur let me know [4/27/2017 7:43 AM] merissa4308 Reminder guys - laser area work day this Sunday starting at 3pm [4/27/2017 7:44 AM] merissa4308 Please come out and help maintain the lasers and clean up and organize our area [4/27/2017 7:44 AM] merissa4308 Wear something you won't mind getting dirty! [4/27/2017 10:08 AM] merissa4308 I think @gbeauw @Lampy (Ken Purcell) and @pearce said they might be available. Anyone else? [4/27/2017 11:35 AM] canibalcrab Turns out I have Alton Brown that night so I might have to miss it [4/27/2017 11:46 AM] merissa4308 Holy crap! We're going to that this weekend too that I completely forgot about! [4/27/2017 11:46 AM] merissa4308 Need to check which time we're going to... [4/27/2017 11:48 AM] canibalcrab Yeah it starts at 7 [4/27/2017 11:48 AM] merissa4308 Ahh ok. We have tickets to the saturday afternoon show [4/27/2017 11:48 AM] canibalcrab I didn't know there were multiple times. [4/27/2017 11:49 AM] merissa4308 Yeah think it was an afternoon and evening show over both days [4/27/2017 11:51 AM] canibalcrab Do you want to keep the scrap shelf as it is? Or do we want to switch to the big table with bins? We could opt for storing spare parts and stuff on the pallet rack and 0 scrap on it [4/27/2017 11:54 AM] merissa4308 I'd like to try scrap bins under the white table but need to take measurements and find a bin to purchase [4/27/2017 11:56 AM] merissa4308 Do we have enough spare parts to store that would deem keeping the pallet rack necessary? [4/27/2017 11:57 AM] merissa4308 Or could we find a better option like a lockable storage cart [4/27/2017 12:06 PM] canibalcrab Well the tubes are nice to keep very high and out of reach [4/27/2017 12:07 PM] canibalcrab And a spare for each machine wouldn't be hard to imagine [4/27/2017 12:08 PM] canibalcrab Then we have stuff like spare ducting, air line, laser accessories like the tool kits, rotary, etc [4/27/2017 12:09 PM] merissa4308 Good to know. Part of what I want to do Sunday is inventory all spare stuff because I really don't have a clear picture of what all we have on hand [4/27/2017 12:14 PM] merissa4308 Tagging others to see if yall will be available for the Sunday workday @lukeiamyourfather , @tomthm , dont think Gorman has discord... Any others? [4/27/2017 12:22 PM] alerho On Sunday after I teach the CNC class I planned on getting rid of the Freeman group wood if it's not claimed by then. Please feel free to use as much as you need. [4/27/2017 12:23 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Alex! [4/27/2017 12:23 PM] merissa4308 Do we know yet if that will become a recurring thing? [4/27/2017 12:25 PM] alerho It will I'm just not sure how often. [4/27/2017 12:25 PM] merissa4308 Awesome [4/27/2017 2:49 PM] merissa4308 So far we've got Tom, Brandon, and I for Sunday. Any other helpers available? I really want to improve the space with input from as many people as possible. [4/27/2017 2:53 PM] canibalcrab Sunday is better [4/27/2017 2:56 PM] merissa4308 ? [4/27/2017 3:00 PM] canibalcrab I thought cleaning day was Saturday [4/27/2017 3:01 PM] canibalcrab I was thinking Saturday the 29th [4/27/2017 3:01 PM] canibalcrab If it's Sunday I'm free [4/27/2017 3:01 PM] merissa4308 Ah, no Sunday the 30th at 3pm [4/27/2017 3:01 PM] canibalcrab That'll show me [4/27/2017 3:01 PM] merissa4308 Wohoo! More help! 😃 [4/27/2017 3:06 PM] alerho Im teaching CNC from 2 to about 6. If stuff is still happening I can help then. [4/27/2017 3:07 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Alex! Always know we can count on you no matter what the task :) [4/27/2017 9:24 PM] merissa4308 One of the things I want to get out of the Sunday workday is feedback about reorganizing the area to use the space more efficiently. [4/27/2017 9:24 PM] merissa4308 Since only a few have said they can come though, I drew up a sketch of my idea [4/27/2017 9:25 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/307341463132307467/unknown.png?ex=67b9358a&is=67b7e40a&hm=ffa09c6f9ae56c320d9687037df9b86057c60b9a5c37f5c948784f7733cd3d04& [4/27/2017 9:25 PM] merissa4308 if anyone has thoughts please share them! [4/27/2017 9:30 PM] .ladyl It looks like potentially better placement of the computers. What about the ventilation? Hard tubing like the Woodshop to direct it over the computers? Also, where will the replacement laser tubes and other larger stuff that may not work well stored under the table go? Just tossing out questions to consider, if not already done... I have no better solution off the top my head. Thanks for taking Laser on. :) [4/27/2017 9:32 PM] canibalcrab ventilation will be a hard thing to change. we would have to do it like lisa said, with hardlines [4/27/2017 9:33 PM] canibalcrab and having the back of the machines exposed to walkways may cause problems with disconnects and crushed air tubes [4/27/2017 9:34 PM] merissa4308 hmm yeah was thinking it would maybe need a partial wall built behind it to protect it [4/27/2017 9:34 PM] merissa4308 and yes hard ducting [4/27/2017 9:35 PM] canibalcrab i do like the pc being on the right side of the thunder, its closer to the control panel [4/27/2017 9:35 PM] merissa4308 yeah I thought that would be more convenient [4/27/2017 9:37 PM] canibalcrab saur might not need its own pc table [4/27/2017 9:38 PM] canibalcrab that would allow the thunder to move in some and have a barrier wall [4/27/2017 9:44 PM] merissa4308 yeah, liked the idea of not using the saur table for a desk anymore since your knees get squished under the table, but would have more space without adding a desk [4/27/2017 9:44 PM] merissa4308 maybe there we could add a locking cabinet for tubes and lenses? [4/27/2017 9:48 PM] merissa4308 I'd really like to have an area to lock things up. Maybe a cabinet like this... [4/27/2017 9:48 PM] merissa4308 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-36-in-x-72-in-Welded-Floor-Cabinet-KF3F361872-H9/204321513?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D59-Storage&Organization%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjwrYbIBRCgnY-OluOk89EBEiQAZER58i9NWiSN2Q60zRbzGUesL-2fuoZwCaTFN7LQ6WP370oaAtuc8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds {Embed} http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-36-in-x-72-in-Welded-Floor-Cabinet-KF3F361872-H9/204321513?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D59-Storage&Organization%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjwrYbIBRCgnY-OluOk89EBEiQAZER58i9NWiSN2Q60zRbzGUesL-2fuoZwCaTFN7LQ6WP370oaAtuc8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds Husky 36 in. x 72 in. Welded Floor Cabinet-KF3F361872-H9 - The Home Depot https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xgTuJJe6WLzJdWuMMJ3L8In35-hkLe4aihccNj7jCIo/http/www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/9f/9ff66e9f-e6f5-411c-83a9-f35ae72a9968_300.jpg [4/27/2017 10:05 PM] canibalcrab Could get the ones from Sam's like CA has. Sticking to a brand would make the space look consistent [4/27/2017 10:08 PM] merissa4308 think the tubes would fit in one of the slim ones? https://www.samsclub.com/sams/locker-gear-cabinet-ultrahd/prod20301563.ip?xid=plp7040122-auto:product:1:12 [4/27/2017 10:10 PM] merissa4308 then have a smaller rolling cart for tools and lock up lenses? https://www.samsclub.com/sams/4-drawer-cabinet-hard-wood-top/prod13760146.ip?xid=plp:product:1:2 [4/27/2017 10:30 PM] .ladyl What about this? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/307358004322500608/LaserArea_v.2.png?ex=67b944f2&is=67b7f372&hm=f26dbbdfd76216fa2b54b489d95a1870860a102ffaa70ed98c460bb3027d881b& [4/27/2017 10:31 PM] .ladyl Oh dangit... I forgot to put the co2 tank back in.. pretend you see it between the lasers 😉 [4/27/2017 10:35 PM] .ladyl admittedly this config isn't much different than it is now - except cleaner storage (I was just guessing at the area the cabinets might take....), and the computer in a more convenient location for the Thunder.. plus have the zing and it's computer not be under the armpit of whoever might be using the Saur (since the Saur and Thunder are in reversed locations in this plan - to allow better placement of the computers...). [4/27/2017 10:37 PM] merissa4308 I like that too, a improvement but still bugged by the wasted space that collects dust between the lasers [4/27/2017 10:38 PM] aceat64 is there any way to change the ducting so the lasers can be back to back? [4/27/2017 10:39 PM] canibalcrab no those two are on separate blowers so you cant combine them [4/27/2017 10:39 PM] canibalcrab and you need some sort of back access [4/27/2017 10:57 PM] .ladyl Thx n yeah the space between was intentional to allow them to be serviced relatively easily since it's probably best not to be trying to move them around any more than necessary. [4/27/2017 11:05 PM] canibalcrab sometimes i just pick them up and shake em [4/27/2017 11:15 PM] .ladyl LOLLOLLOL [4/28/2017 6:24 AM] clk9431 What's the logic in switching saur and thunder? That's basically the current arrangment, but putting a pc table to the back wall for saur. If there's not really a need to switch the two, then just do that. [4/28/2017 6:25 AM] clk9431 I like the idea of moving the saur pc, though. Had a guy land in my lap one afternoon when he missed the top step coming in the back door. No real harm. We were both a little embarassed, though. [4/28/2017 8:38 AM] redbeardedpirate I can help some on Sunday [4/28/2017 8:42 AM] mikeglass4367 I should be there Sunday [4/28/2017 8:43 AM] merissa4308 Awesome, thanks guys! [4/28/2017 10:20 AM] .ladyl Re swapping the big lasers... location of the computer in relation to the control panel. Not critical ~ just an idea :) [4/28/2017 10:26 AM] clone1018 I'll be there sunday for the logistics meeting so i'm free to help before / after [4/28/2017 10:26 AM] clone1018 I'll drop by [4/28/2017 11:08 AM] merissa4308 Sounds good! [4/28/2017 11:09 AM] merissa4308 I definitely want to move the zing at least on Sunday in addition to clean up and inventory, then we'll continue talking about other ideas [4/30/2017 7:20 AM] themitch22 Facebook reminded me of this picture of the Lasersuar 2 years ago {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/308215956801323019/11204977_10205099404577123_681988920998164442_n.jpg?ex=67b9183a&is=67b7c6ba&hm=1c20e05c7a1ff4bd9530abf2a57f5577b7d8dcd6a1bdf38a13931202f976de23& {Reactions} dms [4/30/2017 3:15 PM] merissa4308 So far it's just me and Mike cleaning up. Anyone else on the way? [4/30/2017 3:31 PM] .ladyl @merissa you might consider posting a reminder on TALK... I have stuff that I need to get done at home, so won't be able to get to the Space until later - if at all - today. Sorry. [4/30/2017 3:38 PM] redbeardedpirate @merissa I'm heading to DMS in a few min [4/30/2017 3:38 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Luke! [4/30/2017 3:38 PM] canibalcrab Our day is running late. We'll be up soon too [4/30/2017 3:56 PM] kenpurcell Damn forgot that was today. Stuck working on DMS finance. {Reactions} dumpsterfire [4/30/2017 4:39 PM] merissa4308 Anyone know if these are still needed for rotary? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/308356811344445442/20170430_163903.jpg?ex=67b8f2a8&is=67b7a128&hm=070dd23c79ea2c647860eea4d8fc97e38f931568f75f59ade8e26a4d581e7908& [4/30/2017 4:43 PM] canibalcrab I don't think those are ours [4/30/2017 4:43 PM] canibalcrab They could be stands for the rotary [4/30/2017 4:49 PM] .ladyl Are they 3D printed? I know John Gorman has printed a few adapters for specific sized objects... You might send him a PM on TALK if he's not here (I don't see him here... I tried @talkers @john... @gorman) [4/30/2017 4:49 PM] canibalcrab Those are wood glue ups [4/30/2017 4:50 PM] .ladyl Oh I was just going by the words "rotary adapters" (ha? ha?) [4/30/2017 4:51 PM] .ladyl I didn't expand the image to see that they were chunks of wood.. I thought it might be a box with the adapters that John printed in it... [4/30/2017 5:42 PM] merissa4308 Yeah no the 3d printed ones are in the small toolbox, these were up on one of the shelves above scrap {Reactions} 👍 [4/30/2017 6:13 PM] clone1018 Made great progress [4/30/2017 6:14 PM] clone1018 Were working on the ducting for the zing now it'll be real professional when luke is done with it lol [5/1/2017 12:00 AM] merissa4308 Thanks to all who helped today! Looks a lot cleaner and the Zing is located much better now with hard ducting {Reactions} dms (5) [5/1/2017 12:01 AM] merissa4308 I only managed one photo before my phone went dead... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/308467965161111563/20170430_225749.jpg?ex=67b95a2d&is=67b808ad&hm=a6e12bbc9c28d23a4addef16fd87b0a6339c8ad3c2a6d1188efa1fad9acf5bc3& {Reactions} dumpsterfire 👍 [5/1/2017 12:37 AM] canibalcrab Ay! We made good today! And I didn't set anything on fire! No dumpster fire for you! {Reactions} 👍 (2) 💯 (2) [5/5/2017 12:49 AM] canibalcrab Lasersaur blower seems to have killed its starter cap [5/5/2017 12:54 AM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/309930938375340033/JPEG_20170505_005436.jpg?ex=67b966ad&is=67b8152d&hm=55f5b44d9acdcec5294905b2ddd9bf4423481691e3b4e006b795a5fbda1e95b5& [5/5/2017 12:55 AM] canibalcrab Bleedy [5/5/2017 1:04 AM] canibalcrab Here's what blew {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/309933359012773889/IMG_20170505_010353.jpg?ex=67b968ef&is=67b8176f&hm=7d4b89dcdaccaeb4d8ae691dbf4de414a0e66a130b34f34fd1c6c9c4910fb39c& [5/5/2017 1:04 AM] canibalcrab Here's the one on the one that we have as a "spare" {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/309933459244187648/IMG_20170505_010305.jpg?ex=67b96906&is=67b81786&hm=bf82ecbd8181ab0bbbd0c3fc92d1bd4a57fb797c25faec68f496d510c8caf4e1& [5/5/2017 1:21 AM] rshill_ Wonder what it sounded like when it blew [5/5/2017 1:25 AM] canibalcrab Whiney [5/5/2017 2:26 AM] canibalcrab Tried new cap. Need to buy new blower [5/5/2017 2:26 AM] canibalcrab Zing and saur are down [5/5/2017 6:51 AM] kenpurcell They have a hard life at the makerspace. [5/5/2017 6:51 AM] kenpurcell thanks Pearce! [5/5/2017 3:42 PM] mr.clark6147 I think we need one of these: http://i.imgur.com/WoAaUOU.gifv {Embed} https://imgur.com/WoAaUOU An easier way to bend pipes. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1J5DIlu2dD4hBMV-A_Fz7w1eZinRXcvxZ6gdQuR3rfQ/https/i.imgur.com/WoAaUOUh.jpg {Reactions} 👍 (2) [5/5/2017 3:43 PM] canibalcrab Holy shit. That's cool. [5/5/2017 4:35 PM] andrew5152 Yep. Seen those. So much want. (but not enough $$ or space, or justification...) [5/5/2017 6:16 PM] canibalcrab Lasers are back in operation {Reactions} dms (2) [5/5/2017 6:52 PM] stansimmons2031 Woot! [5/6/2017 9:02 AM] kbraby6174 Technically that is a run cap that creates an additional phase angle. While a motor won't start without it, unlike a start cap, the run cap is always connected. A start cap is added in parallel for motors that need high starting torque, and is disconnected after motor start by either a timer or mechanical switch. [5/6/2017 9:05 AM] kbraby6174 A start cap installed as a run cap will usually fail really quickly because they are only designed to run a few seconds for motor start, not the whole time the motor is on. [5/6/2017 1:32 PM] themitch22 run cap is for filtering noise from the motor right? [5/6/2017 1:35 PM] themitch22 btw I got to check out the giant metal laser cutter at multicam, we definitely need one (it would take up the entire DMS laser area though. [5/6/2017 1:35 PM] themitch22 it's a fiber laser that can cut stainless really precisely [5/6/2017 2:26 PM] alerho Cost? [5/6/2017 2:39 PM] canibalcrab For the HF blower? $210. Blower +2 year warranty. [5/6/2017 2:42 PM] canibalcrab I'm totally down for them to replace the blowers with better one that have metal grates to protect the blades. I just wanted the 2 small lasers back up and running. [5/6/2017 3:06 PM] canibalcrab And with the warranty if either blower does, we can just take it back and swap it. [5/6/2017 3:08 PM] themitch22 http://www.multicam.com/quantus-fiber-laser/ {Embed} http://www.multicam.com/quantus-fiber-laser/ CNC Quantus Fiber Laser Cutting Machine - MultiCam Increase your throughput with one of the most advanced, industrial grade and cost effective CNC fiber Laser cutting systems on the market. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/NQUPtDeY3Mhejl18liD3ZcHDZZqjej85BxktzcitoIA/http/www.multicam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/fiber-laser-2.png [5/6/2017 3:08 PM] themitch22 Probably well over $100k I'm guessing [5/6/2017 3:16 PM] canibalcrab They should give us one [5/6/2017 6:48 PM] canibalcrab Saur is back. Internet was unplugged [5/6/2017 6:49 PM] canibalcrab Zing focuses fine. Not sure what to tell the person having issues [5/6/2017 6:50 PM] merissa4308 Thank you Pearce! [5/10/2017 4:50 PM] merissa4308 Replacement parts for the Zing are on their way, but please be on the look-out for a separate envelope that contains the screws to install the Guide Rails.  They forgot to include them in the shipment so they are in a separate one. [5/10/2017 4:51 PM] merissa4308 The packages should be addressed to Luke [5/10/2017 5:18 PM] canibalcrab I'm in desperate need of a software that will nest svgs, any idea? [5/11/2017 10:57 AM] merissa4308 @gbeauw I thought you had already gotten set up with discord? [5/11/2017 10:57 AM] gbeauw Not on my phone apparently [5/11/2017 10:57 AM] merissa4308 Ahh [5/11/2017 10:58 AM] merissa4308 Have you downloaded the app? [5/11/2017 10:59 AM] gbeauw I'm good now [5/11/2017 11:01 AM] merissa4308 Awesome [5/11/2017 11:49 AM] kbraby6174 (Sorry for the late/long response) Re: run caps: a brushless motor can't create torque on single phase power without doing something to create a field out of phase. A capacitor has this funny behavior on AC that current leads voltage, so connecting one on a 3rd winding of an AC motor allows it to create torque by having current out of phase from the primary feed. Much smaller motors create the phase angle other ways like shaded pole that use a secondary winding to pick up power off part of the armature and deliver it to another area of the armature to create the phase angle. Capacitors as noise filters is primarily for DC brushed motors, where the make and break of the brushes on the commutator creates voltage spikes that the capacitors pass through back to the motor. [5/11/2017 6:39 PM] canibalcrab Pew pew tools are in {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/312373152195805184/JPEG_20170511_183908.jpg?ex=67b90eab&is=67b7bd2b&hm=310e82a523d84f9ed446efad016f43fe0dcbd7dccca9a874b782302653142fd5& [5/11/2017 6:50 PM] merissa4308 Nice! That was fast. Were you going to install? [5/11/2017 6:55 PM] canibalcrab I can [5/11/2017 6:55 PM] canibalcrab The rails don't actually look the same as what we have [5/11/2017 6:56 PM] canibalcrab Why did we get new ones actually? [5/11/2017 6:56 PM] canibalcrab They look fine {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/312377545800548352/JPEG_20170511_185642.jpg?ex=67b912c2&is=67b7c142&hm=fb80da46d643c74b5d9a8e6135a2a0432ea25c346dc38c23d9a04f16d499c00f& [5/11/2017 6:58 PM] canibalcrab I'm not going to do the rails. They are all fine as is. I'll let Beau do them [5/11/2017 7:00 PM] merissa4308 Sounds good. I think he said they had been damaged or something where replacement would be best [5/11/2017 7:01 PM] merissa4308 If you'll just store them up on the shelf where Beau can find them that will work [5/11/2017 7:02 PM] merissa4308 It's not letting me tag him for some reason [5/11/2017 7:20 PM] canibalcrab They are under the zing table @gbeauw [5/11/2017 8:41 PM] canibalcrab What are the sizes that we got quoted for the smaller thunder lasers? [5/11/2017 8:42 PM] canibalcrab Did we get a quote on a new zing as well. [5/11/2017 8:42 PM] canibalcrab I spoke for the committee at the membership meeting [5/11/2017 8:43 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Pearce [5/11/2017 8:43 PM] merissa4308 Luke got a quote for 2 Nova 35 lasers [5/11/2017 8:45 PM] merissa4308 2'x3' bed [5/11/2017 8:46 PM] merissa4308 ~$14,000 shipping included [5/11/2017 8:47 PM] merissa4308 Don't know of a quote for a new zing [5/11/2017 8:56 PM] merissa4308 Does the committee want to meet to decide on getting new thunders to replace the saur, or just talk here? [5/11/2017 8:57 PM] canibalcrab I'm sure people would want a meeting for it [5/11/2017 9:09 PM] merissa4308 What about meeting next thursday evening? [5/11/2017 11:19 PM] merissa4308 Anything exciting happen at the member meeting? [5/11/2017 11:25 PM] canibalcrab Nope [5/12/2017 12:46 PM] merissa4308 Anyone good with a meeting next Thursday? Will go over potential new equipment purchases and will process payments in the box [5/12/2017 4:00 PM] gbeauw The Zing Rails were worn and the graduations getting hard to read plus they were loose. I'll install the lens and rail this weekend. [5/12/2017 4:48 PM] gbeauw Had a good call with Zing TS about focus. Have focus setup procedure. What we need for that is some anodized aluminum as a test material. Anyone have any? [5/12/2017 4:59 PM] canibalcrab I'm sure someone could find an old Mac book [5/12/2017 6:25 PM] gbeauw Did any one find the envelop with the screws from Zing? They were sent separately. [5/12/2017 6:36 PM] canibalcrab Wasn't on the table [5/12/2017 6:36 PM] canibalcrab Might be in the mail box? [5/12/2017 6:54 PM] merissa4308 Hmm no idea how often the mail is checked or by who... Anyone know? [5/13/2017 10:30 AM] tomthm9900 Anyone at DMS right now. I have a Laser class starting now, and am still in Denton car trouble. I need to get word to the Purple Classroom that I can't make it [5/13/2017 10:34 AM] merissa4308 Not at the space but I'll post to Talk to get the word out [5/13/2017 10:35 AM] tomthm9900 Didn't even think of Talk. Sheesh. Thank you. [5/13/2017 10:36 AM] merissa4308 Yw! Sorry about the car trouble, hope you arent stranded somewhere!! [5/13/2017 12:47 PM] gbeauw Gonna grab some lunch then head to DMS to work on the Zing. [5/13/2017 3:39 PM] gbeauw Zing is still not focusing. Focus probe is wrong length. Material should be 2" from bottom of lens but when set to 2", probe is 1/4" too high. [5/13/2017 3:41 PM] gbeauw Experimentation confirms the 2" distance. Sent email to Epilog TS asking why brand new probe is wrong length. [5/13/2017 3:42 PM] gbeauw No adjustment on the probe appears to be capable of adding the necessary 1/4". [5/13/2017 3:43 PM] gbeauw They also sent wrong rails. I have them and will arrange their return for correct rails. [5/14/2017 6:40 PM] kenpurcell not a particularly good deal but we may want to monitor the sale http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epilog-Helix-Model-8000-CO2-45-watt-Laser-Engraving-Machine-/272459659297?hash=item3f6fdc7821:g:W~gAAOSwo4pYNNmZ {Embed} http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epilog-Helix-Model-8000-CO2-45-watt-Laser-Engraving-Machine-/272459659297?hash=item3f6fdc7821:g:W~gAAOSwo4pYNNmZ Epilog Helix Model 8000 CO2 45 watt Laser Engraving Machine The engraver is used and in good condition but does have minor scratches from typical usage. There are not any dents. Epilog diagnosed the issue as the control board. Epilog Helix Model 8000 CO2 45 watt Laser Engraving Machine with rolling stand. | eBay! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/LIdGPGp0ADr_jaRlHPpRNDzdSJFXIFvRrogbc4qkHUU/http/i.ebayimg.com/images/i/272459659297-0-1/s-l1000.jpg [5/15/2017 9:10 AM] raymond011905 Ken, that one needs a controller board... and it seems it has already had one fail so it may have another undiagnosed issue. [5/16/2017 2:53 PM] gbeauw I discussed that Helix Model 8000 with Epilog TS. They said there are two reason for a Controller Board Failure. 1) Unplugging Rotary Attachment with power still on the unit [BIG NO-NO]. 2) Dirty AC Power or Power Surges can cause premature failure of Controller Board. That's about all that can cause this according to them. [5/16/2017 2:54 PM] gbeauw Epilog TS is sending me replacement rails so we have the correct rails for the Honeycomb Box. (I'm to return the others at no charge in the same box.) They are also sending another Focus Probe. [5/16/2017 2:57 PM] gbeauw It seems that there is a trick to adjusting the Focus Probe that requires really strong fingers to grab and unscrew the 4-40 threaded rod from the spring to adjust its length. Either that, one must use Needle-Nose pliers very carefully so as to not damage threads. [5/16/2017 2:59 PM] gbeauw When the Rails of FP comes in, I'll install and adjust the length of the FP so that we can set the focus length (lens-to-material) to 2" using the FP. [5/16/2017 3:04 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Beau. I'll be at the space tomorrow night and can check for deliveries [5/16/2017 3:05 PM] gbeauw I had them send it to my home address to avoid any possibilities of misplacement of mail. [5/16/2017 3:05 PM] merissa4308 Ahh ok [5/16/2017 3:06 PM] gbeauw However, you can be on the lookout for the envelope of screws as well as the supposedly sent piece of anodized aluminum to use as a Focus test piece. [5/16/2017 3:07 PM] gbeauw Not sure the later was "really" ever sent but we'll see. [5/16/2017 3:08 PM] merissa4308 Ok, will let you know what I find [5/16/2017 3:09 PM] gbeauw Did you see my note on the Epilog Helix 8000 Laser that some folks were considering? [5/16/2017 3:10 PM] gbeauw There were concerns about the Controller Boards having cronic failures but I think I identified the root causes of failures. That may mean it is worth considering. Controller board is $650 according to Epilog TS. [5/16/2017 3:26 PM] merissa4308 Price seems pretty steep for a small used laser. We recently got quotes for new thunder lasers that I want to discuss at a meeting. [5/16/2017 3:27 PM] merissa4308 Thursday was a problem so I want to suggest to meet next Tuesday or Wednesday evening. [5/16/2017 3:28 PM] gbeauw OK. I was just passing on what I learned in case we were interested. [5/16/2017 3:28 PM] merissa4308 Thank you for getting more info [5/16/2017 3:37 PM] gbeauw @Raymond See my post about why that board fails. May be due to mishandling or bad power. [5/16/2017 3:39 PM] gbeauw FWIW, Epilog no longer makes the 45Watt. It is the 40Watt for $18,000 or 50Watt for $19,500 new so that actually might be a good price depending on the current laser power output. [5/16/2017 3:40 PM] gbeauw Not saying we "should" consider it. Just saying . . . [5/16/2017 3:56 PM] stansimmons2031 The screws did come in. The padded brown envelope was placed next to the Zing. [5/16/2017 3:57 PM] gbeauw Thanks, Stan. [5/16/2017 3:58 PM] raymond011905 Thanks Beau [5/17/2017 2:36 AM] canibalcrab Thunder has the wiggles. But only on one side of my curve {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/314305152465108992/JPEG_20170517_023535.jpg?ex=67b8d5bb&is=67b7843b&hm=94aea396e5735eb97f025a942d6fecdb9a8919a3e4cf89f5f8312a45c37c6be3& [5/17/2017 10:45 AM] gbeauw Parts for Zing came today. I'll get them installed this weekend. {Reactions} 👍 [5/17/2017 4:09 PM] merissa4308 @pearce. Frank showed me that he was having that issue a while back so he tightened up the lense holder and it seemed better [5/17/2017 4:10 PM] merissa4308 Is there something else going on we need to look into? [5/17/2017 5:45 PM] canibalcrab I'm not sure. I just slowed it down [6/1/2017 10:54 PM] canibalcrab Man I would love for the blowers to be quieter. We should try to move them up into the ceiling [6/2/2017 9:54 AM] canibalcrab Does the laser class still not teach that you don't have to download each and every file to the thunder? It would easily solve the frequent "file won't download" issue [6/2/2017 6:03 PM] themitch22 Full spectrum Muse does the picture scanning thing that glowforged does [6/2/2017 6:03 PM] themitch22 Might be a decent 45w laser in addition to the zing [6/3/2017 10:06 AM] mr.clark6147 random question: is the tube in Thunder in good enough shape to cut 1/2" baltic birch plywood right now? [6/3/2017 12:14 PM] canibalcrab You'll probably have to lower your focus to the center of the wood [6/3/2017 12:15 PM] canibalcrab I'd do a test first [6/5/2017 5:59 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/321422784591036417/JPEG_20170605_175920.jpg?ex=67b9054b&is=67b7b3cb&hm=daefa5b330d0c925c30f5bbc249477f39f688fbaa28d8aecf040141a01cf5172& [6/5/2017 6:00 PM] canibalcrab Someone put a fuck ton of polycarbonate that said "fiber glass" on the stickers [6/5/2017 6:00 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/321423151407955968/JPEG_20170605_180047.jpg?ex=67b905a3&is=67b7b423&hm=78f43b695c36c7c4c385ac9a5b7f7247b33e708b5ba9983c12b2b58684cc8f57& [6/18/2017 3:04 PM] merissa4308 Laser Committee meeting next Saturday at 3pm! Hope to see a bunch of folks there! [6/19/2017 3:21 PM] kriskat309685 What is the bed size on the thunder ? [6/19/2017 3:23 PM] clone1018 Wiki says 1600mm x 1000m (63” x 39.4”x 9.8”) {Reactions} 👍 (2) [6/22/2017 10:35 PM] merissa4308 Hey folks, don't forget the meeting Saturday! [6/22/2017 10:58 PM] clone1018 @merissa I'm sorry I forgot to stop by tonight! [6/22/2017 10:59 PM] merissa4308 No worries!! I had to work kind of late and didn't make it either [6/22/2017 10:59 PM] merissa4308 Will be up tomorrow night and Saturday though [6/22/2017 10:59 PM] canibalcrab lasers are lasering. all is well in the white noise laden area we call home [6/22/2017 11:00 PM] merissa4308 wohoo [6/22/2017 11:02 PM] clone1018 Yeah I'm unavailable until next week however I got approval from TLAR in Auto to put the RoboReel wherever, Just incase its next to the autoshelf or something [6/22/2017 11:02 PM] merissa4308 good deal 😃 thank you for coordinating! [6/22/2017 11:04 PM] merissa4308 I'll take a look at things to see if any particular spot looks best and mark it or send you a PM on talk [6/22/2017 11:05 PM] clone1018 Awesome thanks [6/22/2017 11:05 PM] clone1018 Just so you know air will be two phase, I'll install the mounting bracket but I'll need help figuring out the air so it'll take a bit longer [6/22/2017 11:09 PM] merissa4308 Ok, I might be able to get Brandon to assist if it'd be helpful [6/22/2017 11:09 PM] merissa4308 But no big rush, I understand there's the logistics to sort out 😉 [6/23/2017 8:00 PM] stansimmons2031 Tom doesn't care for the RoboReels, he would like one of the old style air reels mounted on the lift, on the upright that can service both bays. This will require relocating airlines. [6/23/2017 9:10 PM] clone1018 Yeah that's what he told me. I asked him why he didn't like it and he said lack of pressure. Trying to figure that one out now [6/23/2017 9:11 PM] clone1018 He doesn't mind them being mounted though [6/23/2017 9:21 PM] mr.clark6147 That's a totally legit thought... but like I was saying last night, he needs flow, not pressure. Particularly for the pneumatic impacts that you use in an autoshop [6/23/2017 9:21 PM] mr.clark6147 pressure is related, but not the be-all-end-all [6/23/2017 9:22 PM] mr.clark6147 If Tom can feed a 1/2" rubber line off a 1 or 1.5" main, he'd have enough air to run the big boy toys [6/23/2017 9:22 PM] mr.clark6147 or a 5/8" rubber line [6/24/2017 12:47 PM] jupiterscomet I thought i saw a laser basics class scheduled for today. Was it cancelled or did i read the calendar wrong? [6/24/2017 12:48 PM] merissa4308 Hmm yeah, I saw it show up on the calendar for 2:30 today but now it's gone [6/24/2017 12:48 PM] merissa4308 Were you signed up to take it? [6/24/2017 12:49 PM] jupiterscomet There weren't any spots. Was going to try to 'fly standyby' [6/24/2017 12:51 PM] merissa4308 Ahh gotcha :( [6/24/2017 12:54 PM] merissa4308 I'm not sure if the teacher (think it was Tom) had to cancel. I scheduled a committee meeting for 3pm which may have influenced things, so if it did I'm sorry about that. [6/24/2017 12:54 PM] merissa4308 The meeting will be at 3 in the conference room though so we don't tie up the laser area [6/24/2017 12:59 PM] jupiterscomet Yeah it was Tom. I'll just catch the next one. Thanks! {Reactions} 👍 [6/25/2017 1:59 PM] stansimmons2031 Tom had cancelled the class and emailed everyone that was registered. [6/25/2017 3:42 PM] tomthm9900 Thanks Stan. I missed your message Merissa. [6/26/2017 3:33 PM] redbeardedpirate FedEX 690438255917 for the Lasersaur emergency stop button. Should be there tomorrow. [6/27/2017 6:39 PM] clone1018 @lukeiamyourfather for the record your package arrived and someone put it on the saur [6/29/2017 8:53 PM] clone1018 @lukeiamyourfather You there working on it tonight? Need any help? [6/29/2017 8:54 PM] redbeardedpirate I'm here [6/29/2017 8:54 PM] redbeardedpirate @clone1018 join if you want [6/29/2017 8:54 PM] redbeardedpirate Just got here [6/29/2017 9:00 PM] redbeardedpirate @LukeStrickland about to start 😀 [6/29/2017 9:03 PM] merissa4308 Luke helping Luke, love it!! 😄 [6/29/2017 9:45 PM] canibalcrab Damned clones {Reactions} 😂 [6/30/2017 11:55 AM] denzuko random question but is anodized steel or anodized aluminum save to use with the lasers? [6/30/2017 11:57 AM] merissa4308 The lasers cant cut/etch metal. You'd have to use something like ceramark on top of the metal and laser onto that [6/30/2017 12:00 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/330392089223495683/20170630_115940.jpg?ex=67b959dc&is=67b8085c&hm=26b6eb44429a2fc91a73c7e86926bbcd1655795d8fc41fdb8636045f39072776& [6/30/2017 12:00 PM] merissa4308 Would give you an effect like the writing on this [6/30/2017 12:00 PM] denzuko well the end goal is something like https://img0.etsystatic.com/178/0/13380382/il_570xN.1087702794_knec.jpg but with metal and acrylic infill but I guess ceremark might work if I can find the right white color {Embed} https://img0.etsystatic.com/178/0/13380382/il_570xN.1087702794_knec.jpg https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PN1wpGerXqP4nQs9_I_CBygnADZH1vYWHsFnDFKHjEY/https/img0.etsystatic.com/178/0/13380382/il_570xN.1087702794_knec.jpg [6/30/2017 12:01 PM] denzuko only down side is the waste and costs [6/30/2017 12:04 PM] merissa4308 Yes unfortunately the stuff isnt cheap, and you'll have some trial and error to make sure your laser settings are right [6/30/2017 12:10 PM] denzuko guess I'll have to look into chemical etching then [6/30/2017 12:11 PM] denzuko thanks @merissa [6/30/2017 1:00 PM] brockelee You might look at drag bit etching on the Cnc. You could spray paint a metal sheet blue and then etch down to the raw metal. Alternatively if you want white and blue, get a blue coated white base acrylic signboard acrylic, then etch off the blue like mentioned before. [6/30/2017 1:01 PM] brockelee I don't know a lot about the process, but that also looks like the experiments coming out of the screen printing folks recently. [6/30/2017 1:04 PM] merissa4308 Maybe screen printing? That may be an awful suggestion, dont have much experience with it {Reactions} 👌 [6/30/2017 1:09 PM] canibalcrab I think screen printing would be the way to go [6/30/2017 1:10 PM] canibalcrab Just use a high mesh screen and thin ink [6/30/2017 6:23 PM] clone1018 wont be able to help with the 'saur until saturday, tonight is 🍻 [7/7/2017 11:56 AM] tomthm9900 Sorry all. I guess I'm losing my marbles. I got ANOTHER class time mixed up and didnt show up to teach at 10:30 AM today. I'll send an email to those that were signed up. [7/13/2017 12:12 AM] canibalcrab Why is there a brake rotor under the laser table [7/13/2017 8:25 AM] clone1018 @pearce There were two brake rotors on the donation shelf yesterday [7/13/2017 8:27 AM] merissa4308 :( [7/13/2017 8:27 AM] merissa4308 Yet another issue with the returned freebie shelf [7/13/2017 8:27 AM] merissa4308 Can someone snap a picture? [7/13/2017 8:28 AM] tomthm9900 The is how The Trouble With Tribbles started. [7/13/2017 8:32 AM] clone1018 I like the idea of food and brake pads right next to each other [7/13/2017 9:15 AM] gbeauw Mmmmm. Brake pads. [Drools] [7/13/2017 9:17 AM] gbeauw Left out tools and left over materials on the laser table. Constant problem. I guess some folks think that their Mother works at DMS. [7/13/2017 11:49 AM] limeytx @LukeStrickland make that 3 brake rotors. I just went to get that photo for Merissa, noticed another on top [7/13/2017 11:50 AM] limeytx {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/335100597122498560/JPEG_20170713_115002.jpg?ex=67b95780&is=67b80600&hm=9621b636b5079d84d5d5a3ee5ce4cabd9023bbea767cee381a1b43224e2b0d29& [7/13/2017 11:51 AM] merissa4308 Thanks Mark! Did you see if there are there still any in the laser area? [7/13/2017 11:57 AM] canibalcrab I put the 3rd one on there from the laser table along with a bunch of other shit people left under there [7/13/2017 11:59 AM] canibalcrab Also it looked like a new rotor? [7/13/2017 11:59 AM] clone1018 I'd bet they fit a Toyota Prius [7/13/2017 12:07 PM] merissa4308 I always struggle with do we put random abandoned crap on the lost and found shelf or on the freebie shelf where it likely came from. If it's stuff just from people not cleaning up after themselves I toss it, but other stuff I put it on the lost and found shelf [7/13/2017 12:39 PM] limeytx Can't see anymore around laser [7/13/2017 12:41 PM] merissa4308 Awesome, appreciate it Mark :) sounds like Pearce got it all handled [7/17/2017 6:45 PM] pseudonym01 If I came in with a design on Thursday night, would anyone mind looking over my shoulder to ensure I don't set anything on fire? [7/22/2017 8:55 PM] limeytx Communication Error... what's the fox for that again? [7/22/2017 8:58 PM] limeytx Fox? Fix [7/24/2017 9:02 PM] clone1018 Can someone whos trained on any of the lasers help me cut something for logistics :D? [7/25/2017 12:21 AM] kriskat309685 Any time [7/30/2017 10:56 PM] canibalcrab Re leveled the bed on the zing. [7/31/2017 8:30 AM] merissa4308 Awesome. Thanks Pearce [7/31/2017 10:09 AM] gbeauw @Pearce, So was one corner lower than the others? [7/31/2017 11:17 AM] canibalcrab Very and causing the table to bind up [7/31/2017 12:22 PM] gbeauw Did you get adjustment instructions from Epilog TS or just figure out what needed to be tweaked? [7/31/2017 12:27 PM] canibalcrab I leveled it like a CNC machine [7/31/2017 12:27 PM] canibalcrab It was also midnight [7/31/2017 12:30 PM] canibalcrab The way it was set, it was binding and making itself worse. The bottom platform is bent it seems. It also ate a ton of my acrylic [7/31/2017 1:25 PM] gbeauw Ill get a quote for the bottom shelf that the matrix box sits on as well add info how to remove and replace. [7/31/2017 1:25 PM] gbeauw as well as [8/1/2017 12:07 AM] canibalcrab I'm pretty sure I left my Anker battery plugged into the laser pc [8/1/2017 12:08 AM] canibalcrab Put it in my personal storage box if found please [8/1/2017 12:08 AM] denzuko think its time to get some sleep. I just read that as ackbar battery [8/8/2017 5:07 PM] canibalcrab Bottoming out the zing is the reason it's going unlevel. People have to stop this shit [8/8/2017 5:18 PM] canibalcrab Hitting down until the bed makes a horrible grinding sound is not the correct way to lower the bed [8/8/2017 5:21 PM] merissa4308 Eek :( [8/8/2017 8:53 PM] clone1018 gotta hook up an embarrassing alarm 😃 [8/8/2017 8:56 PM] canibalcrab I'll just stand by it and yell at people [8/8/2017 9:33 PM] canibalcrab Why has the zing decided to stop reading my pdfs correctly? They opened fine an hour ago [8/9/2017 9:46 PM] canibalcrab Any idea what happened to the zing between 2am and 8pm tonight? It went from solid rasters to garbage for the same files [8/9/2017 9:47 PM] canibalcrab Those are supposed to be letters {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/345035387883749388/JPEG_20170809_214636.jpg?ex=67b93abe&is=67b7e93e&hm=81e0f778da5a9dd68b43841eb4218e15bb9fa349b2493be4fb2ee1c7ab10e6cd& [8/9/2017 9:47 PM] merissa4308 I can review footage, but kind of hard to see what people are doing on the zing from the cam [8/9/2017 9:51 PM] canibalcrab It sounds like the belt is off now [8/9/2017 9:52 PM] canibalcrab The lense was loose [8/9/2017 9:52 PM] canibalcrab How's that happen [8/9/2017 9:53 PM] canibalcrab Top mirror* [8/9/2017 10:12 PM] merissa4308 Disturbed by how many people I see not paying at the kiosk after laser time today [8/9/2017 10:16 PM] merissa4308 Pearce it doesnt look like anyone used the zing after you [8/9/2017 10:18 PM] canibalcrab Yeah after the mirror went back in it looks like that was an issue I was having yesterday too [8/9/2017 10:18 PM] canibalcrab It was just worse today [8/9/2017 10:18 PM] merissa4308 Ah ok [8/9/2017 10:19 PM] canibalcrab I hate how much I have to fix the laser surgery before I want to use them [8/9/2017 10:20 PM] tomthm9900 Is there a way to correlate (is that the right word?) logins at a laser PC with payments? Someone can login without actually cutting, but... [8/9/2017 10:20 PM] canibalcrab No not like the printers [8/9/2017 10:20 PM] canibalcrab Paper printers* [8/9/2017 10:21 PM] merissa4308 Yeah think best we can do is review footage. Can see that if someone is just sitting at the computer or using the laser [8/10/2017 1:02 PM] merissa4308 @pearce luke has thought of doing a laser maintenance class so more folks learn how to keep them running. Would you consider helping or doing some also? I know I need to learn more myself [8/10/2017 2:59 PM] canibalcrab Sure. I'm not sure how far to go with it though. And I don't have a reliable schedule for a while [8/10/2017 3:01 PM] merissa4308 Ok, thank you! I coerced Luke into looking at the lasersaur with me tonight, so I'll get more thoughts out of him about it [8/11/2017 6:48 PM] merissa4308 FYI - the lasersaur is realigned and back in service! [8/12/2017 8:02 PM] merissa4308 Can someone check the square kiosk in laser to see if it's working? [9/2/2017 7:08 PM] canibalcrab Should really be cleaning up if you are cutting this much tiny shit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/353692755760906241/JPEG_20170902_190816.jpg?ex=67b9158c&is=67b7c40c&hm=5dce7edf42e2502ced821438fb68d88a56e5ae2abda973b83ca406e86367c68b& [9/2/2017 7:45 PM] merissa4308 :( [9/2/2017 7:53 PM] canibalcrab That's a fire hazard [9/2/2017 7:53 PM] canibalcrab Specifically how one of the makerspace fires started [9/2/2017 7:53 PM] canibalcrab Not ours* [9/6/2017 10:30 AM] canibalcrab We got a new laser tube? [9/6/2017 10:51 AM] clone1018 yes [9/6/2017 10:51 AM] clone1018 according to stan [9/6/2017 11:10 AM] clone1018 @pearce does the box look like this ? [9/6/2017 11:10 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/355022003121684491/0.png?ex=67b94e41&is=67b7fcc1&hm=c95efc8bbc146d53aa169df71bb323ce335411dc22e80abf070ae54fd082ecbc& [9/6/2017 11:11 AM] merissa4308 That was fast! Yes we ordered a back up tube [9/6/2017 11:12 AM] canibalcrab Holy shit that's probably not a good position for it [9/6/2017 11:12 AM] canibalcrab Is that an spt tube for the thunder? [9/6/2017 11:12 AM] canibalcrab We should test it's power soon in case we need to return it [9/6/2017 11:13 AM] canibalcrab @lukeiamyourfather [9/6/2017 11:13 AM] clone1018 I think Stan moved it inside [9/6/2017 11:13 AM] clone1018 "FedEx dropped it off at the back door with no signature. I put it in the laser area." [9/6/2017 11:13 AM] canibalcrab Wow that's an expensive drop off [9/6/2017 11:14 AM] merissa4308 Can someone lay it down next to the saur? [9/6/2017 5:36 PM] merissa4308 @lukeiamyourfather @pearce are yall free soon to check out the tube with me? [9/10/2017 5:37 PM] tomthm9900 Sweet mother of pearl. The picture Pearce posted is many things, including frustrating, infuriating, and many more words ending in ing. Would it be futile or counter productive to post that very picture on a Wall of Shame, located in the laser area? If The Perp returns, they could see it every time. Y'all who've been here longer probably have heard of everything. Would that be effective, or would likely start a race to the top to get one's mess featured on the Wall of Shame? [9/13/2017 10:22 AM] winters2914 @everyone i am asking if anyone would like to help me with an urgent project two friends of mine passed away on sunday during the plano shooting. i would like to make a simple engraved box for him so people can put notes and tokens in it. i would do it myself but i am currently helping his family with funeral arrangement. I will ofc pay anyone that would take on the project.(edited) Please @ me if you would like to take on this task. Thanks [9/14/2017 3:49 PM] canibalcrab For teaching. This is not acceptable scrap. This is trash {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/357991204211916800/JPEG_20170914_154849.jpg?ex=67b8e6ca&is=67b7954a&hm=7ee4686c7e6a6da888adb381d898926c0e245b66e374dff4e1519d19a637cc19& [9/14/2017 4:34 PM] denzuko @Winters [9/16/2017 1:48 PM] ironlilac Question, there's laser basics tomorrow at 2 anything we need to bring? [9/16/2017 4:37 PM] jestersforge7494 i didnt bring anything when i took it last week [9/16/2017 4:44 PM] ironlilac Okay just checking [9/18/2017 5:49 PM] canibalcrab @merissa , @kimmie is bringing a video card up to upgrade the laser PC, can we get your approval to add it and have @StanSimmons run the driver updates for it? [9/18/2017 5:54 PM] merissa4308 Yeah I'm good with that [9/18/2017 5:54 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Kimmie! [9/18/2017 8:40 PM] canibalcrab Done and updated {Reactions} 👍 [9/19/2017 12:38 PM] merissa4308 New Thunder lasers have been ordered! I'll post here when I know an ETA {Reactions} 💕 [9/19/2017 1:30 PM] samysuicide6918 Wooohooo!!!! [9/19/2017 7:50 PM] davidmcalister1 Exciting!! What model was purchased? [9/19/2017 7:53 PM] merissa4308 Nova35s, has a 2x3ft bed [9/19/2017 8:13 PM] davidmcalister1 Oh cool, the baby nova's! Did we get another rotary? Or just share the old one? [9/19/2017 8:17 PM] merissa4308 Will likely look to get another [9/19/2017 8:32 PM] davidmcalister1 Alright, sounds good. [9/26/2017 9:12 PM] tomthm9900 Is there an ETA on new laser cutters? [9/26/2017 10:42 PM] merissa4308 Just got word that they'll be ready to ship out on Oct 9th. Waiting to hear confirmation of how long shipping will take. [9/26/2017 10:46 PM] merissa4308 Coming from China takes a while though, so I appreciate everyone's patience as this is a slow process [10/2/2017 12:14 PM] itsasolly Does anyone else get virus alerts with RDWorks? I uploaded it to Payload Security and it has very high confidence matching for malicious. https://www.hybrid-analysis.com/sample/cf3295ec4faab36e389a3c043aa5ca8d08a23e3d26fd03cc2aa87b9c4d39a55a?environmentId=100 [10/2/2017 11:36 PM] kriskat309685 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/364631849189900288/image.jpg?ex=67b9545f&is=67b802df&hm=2a5800b41b536ce50823380bfbb1a61b392f490627d3c30dfde6385fc7ba2755& [10/2/2017 11:36 PM] kriskat309685 Gee the thunder is much smaller than I thought [10/2/2017 11:37 PM] kriskat309685 Laser parts in! [10/3/2017 7:20 AM] merissa4308 Thanks, that would be replacement belts for the Nova 63 [10/17/2017 9:46 PM] hi.kim Hello! Do you know if we're getting new rotary attachments too? 😄 [10/18/2017 10:04 PM] canibalcrab @merissa howd the meeting go? i had previous plans and couldnt make it out [10/18/2017 10:06 PM] merissa4308 Small turnout but good discussion! I'm working on meeting notes to post right now. [10/18/2017 10:06 PM] merissa4308 Oh and yall are stuck with me for a bit longer! No one opposed me for the chair spot 😁 [10/18/2017 10:07 PM] canibalcrab no complaints [10/18/2017 10:08 PM] canibalcrab if we can get the proper belt settings from thunderlaser id be willing to re do them with the new ones [10/18/2017 10:09 PM] merissa4308 👍 [10/18/2017 10:09 PM] merissa4308 I'll email them tonight [10/18/2017 10:09 PM] gbeauw Sorry I missed the meeting. I didn't know about it. Was it announced here? [10/18/2017 10:09 PM] merissa4308 Sorry, not sure if I posted it here, but was on the calendar and Talk [10/18/2017 10:12 PM] gbeauw I've been swamped with other stuff including transitioning to being retired. It would be helpful if you would post the notice here too. [10/18/2017 10:13 PM] gbeauw Then again you might have and I just missed it. [10/18/2017 10:13 PM] canibalcrab i meant to pin all of the meetings but its been stupid busy for me the past few weeks [10/18/2017 10:14 PM] gbeauw Glad you Pearce and others having kept things going. Thanks. Hopefully my time will free up soon. [10/18/2017 10:15 PM] merissa4308 I think I forgot to, my apologies :( Hard to keep up with multiple locations when things get busy. [10/18/2017 10:15 PM] merissa4308 Happy retirement though! That's exciting [10/18/2017 10:15 PM] gbeauw Side note: My son joined DMS this week. He picks up his fob tomorrow. [10/18/2017 10:16 PM] merissa4308 One of the big things I need to improve on is routine maintenance. I'll be posting more about plans for getting more people "trained" on maintenance and setting a maintenance schedule [10/18/2017 10:18 PM] canibalcrab holy crap i got back from wasteland and came back to the thunder vent being 100% clogged [10/18/2017 10:18 PM] canibalcrab can we buy a better shop vac for laser? [10/18/2017 10:21 PM] gbeauw How about the compressed air outlet for blasting out lasers. Did we ever greet that? [10/18/2017 10:21 PM] gbeauw ... get that [10/18/2017 10:22 PM] merissa4308 Can we use others at the space for a bit?.. I know it wouldnt be too pricey, but I dont want to commit to more spending until we finish with all the new laser purchases (computers, blowers, etc etc) [10/18/2017 10:22 PM] merissa4308 And can see where our balance is truly at [10/18/2017 10:22 PM] canibalcrab im sure we could, id like to find the extensions on them. i have to crawl into the machine to get to the back [10/18/2017 10:23 PM] merissa4308 Ah yeah [10/18/2017 10:25 PM] merissa4308 Beau, I've talked with logistics and infrastructure in the air line and they've agreed to install it... I think the reel is in the electrical room, but not yet installed. Not sure what the hold up is. I'll inquire about it again [10/18/2017 10:25 PM] merissa4308 *about the air line [10/18/2017 10:26 PM] canibalcrab probably just volunteer time on that one [10/24/2017 11:38 AM] canibalcrab Post on talk forum asking if the thunder rotary is currently working [10/24/2017 11:48 AM] merissa4308 Thanks, replied. [10/24/2017 11:48 AM] merissa4308 As an fyi to all, the rotary is still down as we wait for replacement parts to come in so repairs can be made [10/24/2017 7:33 PM] themitch22 AFIK the motor driver is built into the rotary thing it the direction wasn't working so it only cuts one direction. [10/25/2017 5:26 PM] canibalcrab Hooooly crap the saur PC is slow [10/25/2017 8:41 PM] davidkessinger9707 There's a package in the common room from Thunder laser [10/25/2017 10:36 PM] merissa4308 Thank you. That's probably the parts for the rotary! I'll let John know so he can take a look [10/25/2017 10:57 PM] merissa4308 @pearce Thunder sent me this link regarding replacing the belts and contact info for their tech person if we need more help [10/25/2017 10:57 PM] merissa4308 http://www.thunderlaser.com/troubleshooting/how-to-replace-the-motor-and-adjust-the-belt-tension-of-the-motor.html [10/25/2017 11:17 PM] canibalcrab K [11/1/2017 10:24 AM] merissa4308 Laser area workday this Saturday, Nov 4th, starting at noon! [11/1/2017 10:24 AM] merissa4308 Lots to do to get ready for the new lasers, so please come help [11/1/2017 5:13 PM] clone1018 @merissa got uline shipment [11/1/2017 5:21 PM] merissa4308 Also we need someone with a truck to help move the saur offsite [11/1/2017 5:57 PM] merissa4308 Sorry @LukeStrickland for some reason your message just popped up. Thanks for letting me know! I wont be able to come up to the space tonight. Can it be put by the saur or somewhere out of the way for now? [11/1/2017 5:58 PM] clone1018 Is it fine under the gantry or do you want it in laser? I'm fine keeping it where it is lol [11/1/2017 5:58 PM] clone1018 Aka under the gantry [11/1/2017 5:58 PM] merissa4308 That works! Just didnt want it to be a problem [11/3/2017 4:59 PM] merissa4308 Reminder! Laser workday tomorrow starting at noon. Wear something you dont mind getting dirty! [11/3/2017 5:01 PM] canibalcrab I cleaned out the thunder the other night [11/3/2017 5:02 PM] merissa4308 Awesome, thanks! [11/3/2017 5:02 PM] gbeauw Should we wear our HazMat Suits. 😉 [11/3/2017 5:03 PM] merissa4308 Funds are looking good so probably going to pick up a new shop vac. @pearce think one of like kind to the others around the space would be best? [11/3/2017 5:04 PM] canibalcrab Just something bigger than the dinky one [11/3/2017 5:04 PM] merissa4308 Cool [11/3/2017 5:04 PM] merissa4308 Haha couldnt hurt @gbeauw ;) [11/3/2017 5:05 PM] canibalcrab New blowers going in/on the roof? [11/3/2017 5:05 PM] gbeauw So exactly what new lasers are we installing and which ones are going away (if any). [11/3/2017 5:05 PM] canibalcrab New smaller thunders [11/3/2017 5:05 PM] canibalcrab Saur leaving [11/3/2017 5:05 PM] canibalcrab Merissa typing book [11/3/2017 5:05 PM] merissa4308 Lasersaur out, two Thunder Nova 35s in its place [11/3/2017 5:06 PM] gbeauw Never been too happy with saur. I guess I should look up Nova 35's on web. [11/3/2017 5:06 PM] merissa4308 Merissa type slow on phone 😋 [11/3/2017 5:06 PM] gbeauw ha ha ha. The text-to-speech function uses some strange words to describe Emogies [11/3/2017 5:06 PM] merissa4308 The new thunders should arrive late next week, we'll be prepping the space ahead of their arrival tomorrow [11/3/2017 5:08 PM] gbeauw Ok. As it stands now, I should be able to make it. [11/3/2017 5:11 PM] merissa4308 Awesome! [11/3/2017 5:12 PM] merissa4308 Pearce we're also going to try and fix the relay on the current thunder to operate the blower [11/3/2017 5:17 PM] canibalcrab Awesome [11/3/2017 5:29 PM] gbeauw So do we have room to put two Nova 35's where the LaserSaur is now? If not, do we have a tentative arrangement figured out? [11/3/2017 5:30 PM] merissa4308 Yes they will fit, desk will be behind, got the floor plan worked out and measured [11/3/2017 5:30 PM] gbeauw So we have two new PC's for them I guess. (Or old saur PC plus one more.) [11/3/2017 5:30 PM] merissa4308 It might be a little tight, but I think the way we're planning is the best use of space [11/3/2017 5:31 PM] merissa4308 Yes :) new computers will be installed tomorrow [11/3/2017 5:31 PM] gbeauw OK. Great. Now I'm sorry I didn't make the last meeting. Guess I would have been up to speed on this if I had. [11/3/2017 5:32 PM] gbeauw Hopefully you can announce meetings here. I don't get on Talk unless I need to post something or search for something. [11/3/2017 5:33 PM] merissa4308 Hah it's no problem :) appreciate people asking, helps me not forget things [11/3/2017 5:33 PM] merissa4308 I'll try to be better in the future so everyone is in the know [11/3/2017 5:33 PM] gbeauw Forget what? I forgot what we are talking about. 😉 [11/3/2017 5:33 PM] merissa4308 Haha [11/3/2017 5:34 PM] gbeauw But I have an excuss. I'm Officially an Old Fart now. 😃 [11/3/2017 5:34 PM] merissa4308 Would it help if I like to talk posts here, or do you just prefer not to use talk? [11/3/2017 5:34 PM] merissa4308 Sorry, meant link to talk [11/3/2017 5:35 PM] gbeauw I use Discord to keep up with what's happening on Lasers. Sends me alerts if there is a problem. Do you think depending on Discord is a problem? [11/3/2017 5:36 PM] merissa4308 No not at all. Just sometimes it slips my mind to post on both. Trying better now though! [11/3/2017 5:37 PM] gbeauw OK. That's fine. See you tomorrow. [11/3/2017 5:37 PM] merissa4308 Yes see you then! 😀 [11/9/2017 8:31 PM] canibalcrab Do we have the blower for the zing? I could get it hooked up and the PC moved so people can use it [11/9/2017 8:34 PM] merissa4308 We plan to get it back online on saturday [11/9/2017 8:35 PM] merissa4308 It's going to be connected to one of the computers on the back wall that needs to be added to the domain [11/13/2017 11:01 AM] gbeauw Melissa would you please call me asap about Zing problem? [11/13/2017 11:03 AM] gbeauw @merissa my number is 972-679-4334 [11/13/2017 11:07 AM] merissa4308 I'm sorry I'm in and out of work meetings all day [11/13/2017 11:08 AM] merissa4308 Brandon looked at it more last night and thinks its an interlock issue for the door or the blower, but both of which are functioning fine [11/13/2017 11:08 AM] merissa4308 I wont be freed up to call for another hour or so [11/13/2017 5:19 PM] canibalcrab The current blower setup is pumping smoke from the thunder into the zing. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379772311340843029/JPEG_20171113_171906.jpg?ex=67b90a06&is=67b7b886&hm=a5efde77b241b029168b0f106bc5705de61793ded43dce15f7340ffc879b95e4& [11/13/2017 5:21 PM] merissa4308 Good lord... [11/13/2017 5:21 PM] canibalcrab Where's the zing PC to test? [11/13/2017 5:22 PM] merissa4308 Left one on the wall [11/13/2017 5:22 PM] canibalcrab The job manager isn't installed? [11/13/2017 5:23 PM] merissa4308 We installed the print driver and it sent jobs [11/13/2017 5:23 PM] gbeauw Can one of you post a picture of the proposed new floor plan? [11/13/2017 5:23 PM] canibalcrab Oh we need the job manager too. Its actually useful for the zing [11/13/2017 5:23 PM] merissa4308 Ok we can do that [11/13/2017 5:23 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379773368095997972/JPEG_20171113_172339.jpg?ex=67b90b02&is=67b7b982&hm=95ce6086e35d1b27c81b8e50c4b1b32f3db154def330d82d407ea0b789971a7d& [11/13/2017 5:24 PM] merissa4308 Brandon said there's a backdraft preventer, how much smoke is leaking through? [11/13/2017 5:26 PM] merissa4308 Turn on zing blower for now if it's excessive? [11/13/2017 5:26 PM] canibalcrab It's enough to smell from the zing but not see [11/13/2017 5:28 PM] merissa4308 Any proposed solutions? [11/13/2017 5:28 PM] canibalcrab Standing PC wall looks good. Much better than the towers [11/13/2017 5:29 PM] canibalcrab I'm not a vent guy. I'm going to talk to Tim about it. I just turned on the zing blower so I could work on it [11/13/2017 5:29 PM] merissa4308 Ok sounds good [11/13/2017 5:32 PM] canibalcrab Did we toss the old toggle boxes? I think this one is just wired wrong [11/13/2017 5:33 PM] merissa4308 Trying to get Brandon in here to discuss... Stuff is probably getting lost in translation with me [11/13/2017 5:33 PM] canibalcrab Wrong- has the wrong ends for me to test the trigger box with [11/13/2017 5:34 PM] agr0090 I may have completly failed and wasted money on the backdraft preventer setup with shared vent, failed to anticipate the pressure in column and leakage of backdraft preventers. Anyone want to get a quote for remote mounted exhaust that does 2000 cfm @ 4 in wc? [11/13/2017 5:35 PM] canibalcrab Just noticed the blue tape could be leaking too. May have been that blowing at the zing and causing the smell [11/13/2017 5:35 PM] canibalcrab Old zing toggle box is currently on the thunder. [11/13/2017 5:35 PM] merissa4308 So yeah, let's not say it's failed yet till we give the completed design a try [11/13/2017 5:36 PM] canibalcrab Right [11/13/2017 5:36 PM] merissa4308 Brandon where did thunder toggle switch go? [11/13/2017 5:36 PM] agr0090 there is a backdraft preventer directly behind blue tape, you can feel air leaking past which is why I put tape on. Didn't know if leakage all the way back through blower and ducting into other lasers would be noticeable or not [11/13/2017 5:39 PM] canibalcrab Part of the issue {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379777307583184897/JPEG_20171113_173914.jpg?ex=67b90eae&is=67b7bd2e&hm=25f03f25e44632349b7da4ff44bcf1b0391573fffb0a6352afb60965c6e954ef& [11/13/2017 5:39 PM] agr0090 I rewired the zing toggle box and put it on thunder because it was first switch in pile I saw and needed a switch to control thunder blower since the auto on/off wasnt working reliably [11/13/2017 5:40 PM] canibalcrab The current relay box is missing a plug for it, I think that's the issue [11/13/2017 5:41 PM] canibalcrab Is the zing blower 110v? [11/13/2017 5:41 PM] agr0090 yeah [11/13/2017 5:42 PM] canibalcrab K [11/13/2017 5:42 PM] agr0090 the switch needed for the zing grey relay box is not normal, it needs to short the hot and neutral lines [11/13/2017 5:43 PM] canibalcrab I just need the ends to fit into Kevin's control box [11/13/2017 5:43 PM] canibalcrab Definitely smell burning leather from the elbow joint going directly into the zing [11/13/2017 5:43 PM] agr0090 there are extra c13/c14 cables in bottom of tan /grey/plastic tub [11/13/2017 5:45 PM] canibalcrab I was going for not having to rewire, high voltage experiments are not my thing when it connects to machines I don't own [11/13/2017 5:46 PM] agr0090 I can work on it later, but its not clear that the exhaust approach I created will work [11/13/2017 5:46 PM] merissa4308 Does a higher quality backdraft preventer exist? [11/13/2017 5:46 PM] agr0090 there will be leaking noxious fumes back into the space through the backdraft preventers [11/13/2017 5:46 PM] canibalcrab I like this split, but it means we can't have different pressures for each machine {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/379779117307920384/JPEG_20171113_174610.jpg?ex=67b9105d&is=67b7bedd&hm=e9325fb5717b2b86937ee1743ea0630cef63bc2a0e51bc8362bced13f405f5b2& [11/13/2017 5:47 PM] agr0090 can switch to regulator per line [11/13/2017 5:48 PM] canibalcrab Can you do that after the universal fitting? That's cool [11/13/2017 5:48 PM] agr0090 yeah the lines can handle shop air pressure, can put regulator on either side [11/13/2017 5:48 PM] agr0090 there are different brands of backdraft preventers, but all would have the same issue [11/13/2017 5:49 PM] canibalcrab We could try wrapping the rest of the elbow in tape but that doesn't stop it from coming out the zing vent [11/13/2017 5:50 PM] agr0090 http://www.hoodfilters.com/2200-cfm-high-speed-direct-drive-upblast-exhaust-fan-with-15-75-wheel-75-hp-115-v.html [11/13/2017 5:51 PM] agr0090 but it says only 0.5" wc [11/13/2017 5:52 PM] agr0090 Short of completly different remote exhaust, have to go back to only a single blower per roof penetration / vent [11/13/2017 5:52 PM] agr0090 question is then how to duct 4 lasers with 2 blowers, where 3 are next to each other and 1 is 15 feet away [11/13/2017 5:57 PM] agr0090 Right now its unsafe to use thunder without zing blower also going. Will need to disconnect and block off 8" duct past where thunder is connecting and zing will down for rest of the week [11/13/2017 5:58 PM] merissa4308 Can they be set to operate at the same time? [11/13/2017 5:58 PM] merissa4308 The blowers [11/13/2017 5:59 PM] agr0090 Could do that yeah, control them both off the one switch on thunder [11/13/2017 6:00 PM] merissa4308 Would like to safely have as many lasers in operation as possible so members arent waiting for things to get back up and running [11/13/2017 6:01 PM] agr0090 Could also do that long term, instead of redoing exhaust approach, have it so that when any one laser is on all 3 blowers are going [11/13/2017 6:02 PM] agr0090 if any blower didn't turn on exhaust would backflow through it [11/13/2017 6:02 PM] merissa4308 Can we minimize blowers too? How much can one blower handle? [11/13/2017 6:02 PM] agr0090 one 2hp HF blower can exhaust 2 lasers [11/13/2017 6:03 PM] merissa4308 So not ideal, but can we vent the zing over to the second nova 35 [11/13/2017 6:03 PM] merissa4308 Basically going back to it was with the saur [11/13/2017 6:04 PM] agr0090 yeah thats what I was thinking if we go back to one blower per roof vent [11/13/2017 6:05 PM] merissa4308 Let's gets some thoughts from Tim first though [11/13/2017 6:06 PM] merissa4308 He might have thoughts on how to make this exhaust system work [11/13/2017 6:07 PM] canibalcrab @AGr did you rewire the zing switch that got moved to the thunder ? [11/13/2017 6:07 PM] agr0090 yes, it can only be used on thunder right now [11/13/2017 6:07 PM] canibalcrab Damn [11/13/2017 6:08 PM] canibalcrab It was set up to be one wire going in correct? [11/13/2017 6:09 PM] agr0090 yes, zing switch needs single wire where switch connects black and white wires [11/13/2017 6:18 PM] davidkessinger9707 You can get inline regulators that are supper small, we had them that fit pneumatic air tools. they were adjustables or presets. [11/13/2017 6:29 PM] canibalcrab Ok I got the switch going [11/13/2017 6:29 PM] canibalcrab Now I just need to get the blower plugged into the box. Interlock lights are on [11/13/2017 6:46 PM] canibalcrab And we're back online {Reactions} 😍 [11/13/2017 6:54 PM] agr0090 could splice together a cord, there are wire nuts in one of the cardboard boxes on table, putting splice inside some kind of box [11/13/2017 7:28 PM] canibalcrab Yeah I ended up making a cable so I didn't have to cut the end off the blower plug [11/13/2017 8:18 PM] merissa4308 @pearce do you know if that fixed the homing issue too? [11/13/2017 8:32 PM] canibalcrab I would assume so, it started a cut for me and did it where I set the xy to [11/13/2017 8:32 PM] canibalcrab Not sure what the issue was [11/13/2017 8:41 PM] merissa4308 Awesome. Thank you!! [11/13/2017 8:42 PM] merissa4308 @gbeauw it sounds like all is well now with the Zing. Thank you for calling Epilog and helping troubleshoot [11/13/2017 8:44 PM] gbeauw Ok. Thanks to Pearce for all the great effort. [11/13/2017 11:19 PM] agr0090 My next idea is attempt to run all 3 (nova 63, nova 35, zing) off a single 2hp hf blower going out the 8" vent. Its overrated manufacturer claim is 1500 cfm Each laser would have marginally acceptable airflow, but 100% of the air would be sent outside instead of the 3 blowers w/ backdraft preventers approach where it turns out some percentage of air gets blown to inside the space. Running 3 off 1 avoids having to run 20' of 4" duct (basically same as what the zing and saur shared previously). The Nova 35 not in the cluster would have its own blower going out the 6" duct. Could add automatic electric dampers (would be on suction side, so leaks would be space air entering vacuum) if expect only one of the 3 lasers to be firing at a time typically. Looking at other blowers rated in the 1500-2500 cfm range, looks like thye are all 240 volt, which I think we have had issues with in the past running on our 208 volts. [11/13/2017 11:31 PM] canibalcrab We have 4 lasers now though [11/13/2017 11:31 PM] canibalcrab And 2 roof holes [11/13/2017 11:31 PM] canibalcrab Oh I missed the odd one out [11/13/2017 11:33 PM] canibalcrab If anything id think the bigger one should be on its own, because it has more to pull. And marginal means there's going to be more soot left inside the machines [11/13/2017 11:33 PM] merissa4308 Bad thing is the big one is in the middle [11/13/2017 11:33 PM] merissa4308 Argh... [11/13/2017 11:34 PM] canibalcrab Could we use electric gates like the wood shop was looking into? And just have them open when the switch is turned on? [11/14/2017 12:05 AM] agr0090 yeah we can, they are around $100 each for a normal duct style powered damper, https://www.amazon.com/Acme-Miami-95006-Motorized-Damper/dp/B005279G1K [11/14/2017 12:09 AM] agr0090 Can always fall back on running the zing and nova 35 left on a blower (w/ 20' of 4" duct) if the 3 lasers with 1 blower doesn't provide enough airflow. But that would still be a single blower for both nova 63 and a nova 35. [11/14/2017 12:21 AM] canibalcrab the e-gates may be the way to go to prevent the blowers from losing suction [11/14/2017 12:44 PM] agr0090 Here are the laser counter pcs as they were configured on dell site: Dell Precision 3420 7th gen i5 7500 Win 10 Pro 240W power supply FirePro W4100 8GB DDR4 Non-ECC 128GB SSD $934 [11/14/2017 1:00 PM] agr0090 Short of getting a AC company quote for a roof top mounted 3,000 cfm @ 2-4" wc exhaust system, floor mounted dust collector type blowers are going to be loud. Could go up to a 3hp 240v 2300cfm single blower to exhaust 3 lasers w/ 1 blower, but would be getting nearly as loud as woodshop. [11/14/2017 1:00 PM] agr0090 Current 2hp hf blower is 70-75 db [11/16/2017 4:39 PM] canibalcrab Please don't use excessive force to tighten the mirrors into the laser mounts. We have to be able to remove them [11/20/2017 11:02 AM] merissa4308 Laser exhaust system was revised last night to address concerns about backdrafting. There's a common blower now so the lasers share the inlet side rather than the exhaust side of ducting [11/20/2017 11:02 AM] merissa4308 Doesn't change anything procedurally for users [11/20/2017 3:08 PM] agr0090 An electric blast gate to block exhausting zing is on order to increase airflow through thunder when zing is not in use {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/382276108957122560/3094653865666991653253Faccount_id253D0.png?ex=67b8eb5e&is=67b799de&hm=8e69c39dba5b89f693fbf7ca1e2d3cbed6839602f5b92f462d9ebe1ac8045e10& [11/20/2017 3:11 PM] agr0090 Still haven't been able to get auto blower control working on thunder (so there is a switch to control it), tried installing RC snubber on contactor coil (to prevent potential voltage spike when turning off), but that did not change behavior of thunder where it fails to auto turn off blower after the set delay (it would keep running forever). Will see if same contactor works on new lasers to determine if its an issue with TL Timer board inside thunder [11/20/2017 3:13 PM] agr0090 Larger 30 amp contactor to replace the 5 amp relay inside zing electrical box is also on order, observed some odd behavior where if you turn on zing switch, then turn on thunder switch, then turn off thunder switch, occassionally the blower would turn off, which should not happen as the relay inside zing control box should still be powering it. My guess is the undersized relay doesn't like the load being pulled through it by the 2 hp blower. [11/20/2017 3:17 PM] agr0090 Ducting for placement of nova 35 left is installed, need some kind of coord management to run the 208 coord and air assist line all the way to source {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/382278397130440707/Q6xtc0ib4rGNTw5K7VEInl1PhIqW0wAgyRC7IPuSh9WHyVFgA70ZPKiY9IO-32tG_4OCBABW8EoaLFGRu3ZmF3i-7qdnJhDFhL7N.png?ex=67b8ed80&is=67b79c00&hm=1535622f699f2f6539dfe9731b82d90a32155b9f90b578a3a592dc5fc1c07dd7& [11/21/2017 7:33 PM] merissa4308 NEW LASER UPDATE -- Things are moving much slower than they originally made it sound. The lasers cleared inspection on Friday, but it took till today for customs payment to be done by the shipper for customs to "release" them. [11/21/2017 7:33 PM] merissa4308 It may be another day or two before they actually get moved onto a truck, and with the holiday I doubt we'll see them arrive till next week [11/21/2017 7:34 PM] merissa4308 I'll post more details as I get them [11/21/2017 7:36 PM] merissa4308 Wanted to still give a big thank you to Stan, Stephenie, David S, and Coul who offered to help with receiving them this week when we thought they'd arrive sooner [11/21/2017 7:36 PM] canibalcrab we seem to be the same boat with the one we odered at polyprinter [11/21/2017 9:05 PM] stansimmons2031 Thanks for the update Merissa. [11/22/2017 3:59 PM] canibalcrab Fuck we need the other lasers [11/22/2017 4:01 PM] merissa4308 Long queue? [11/22/2017 4:10 PM] canibalcrab Yep [11/22/2017 4:10 PM] canibalcrab For stuff that's only like 12x16 {Reactions} 😕 [11/22/2017 4:24 PM] shdragon Yeah. I can't wait, been here a couple hours for what's gonna be about 2 minutes of laser time. [11/22/2017 4:26 PM] merissa4308 People running long jobs or just not ready to fire when they get to the laser? [11/22/2017 4:26 PM] shdragon A little of column a, a little of column b, it seems. [11/27/2017 7:52 AM] limeytx Any update on delivery? [11/28/2017 5:46 PM] merissa4308 Ugh... The shipping company says they should arrive in Carrollton 12/5. I'm super frustrated with this and I know many of yall are as well. I've been contacting the shipper frequently to get status updates and maybe speed things along, but it hasn't seemed to help. [11/29/2017 11:22 AM] stephenie. posted update to Talk. [11/29/2017 1:26 PM] agr0090 Will be rebuilding zing control box (going to 30 amp contactor) and installing ivac pro auto blast gate this weekend, along with finalizing remaining wiring for when new lasers arrive. Would probably also be good to install the spare new tube into the nova 63 and clean / align mirrors this weekend (will be more difficult to access back once other lasers are there) [11/29/2017 1:49 PM] pinewoodnut Are we seeing reduced laser power on the 63? [11/29/2017 1:50 PM] stephenie. @AGr Sunday has Laser Basics at 1p...needs access to both lasers. Sunday has Rotary class at 3p...needs access to Thunder. So schedule around those, please. [11/29/2017 1:51 PM] stephenie. Also, what day/time are you scheduling this maintenance? I'm at the Space now and can post a physical sign. Keep our users happy-ish or at least informed. [11/29/2017 1:52 PM] talkers Would this be the right time to move the Zing to the outside? It is difficult to teach in its current location. Only a couple of people can see at a time. [11/29/2017 1:52 PM] talkers It would also help with wheelchair access [11/29/2017 1:53 PM] stephenie. Agreed. The Zing location is tough on classes. Its frustrating not to be able to see what the instructor is pointing to. [11/29/2017 1:54 PM] pinewoodnut #stephenie can you put a sign up with the projected delivery date for those that don't check talk? [11/29/2017 1:54 PM] stephenie. Got your back @pinewoodnut . Already done. [11/29/2017 1:55 PM] agr0090 @pinewoodnut Can measure output before doing swap, it has a lot of time on it so I assume it wouldn't hurt since the new one is sitting there. Would of course keep existing on hand as the spare, would be less risk keeping old spare offsite vs keeping brand new tube offsite [11/29/2017 1:56 PM] agr0090 Would also be a good time to install new stepper belts and just generally tune it up [11/29/2017 1:57 PM] agr0090 Will be there Saturday late afternoon [11/29/2017 2:00 PM] stephenie. @AGr Name a time. That'll give a deadline for the user to wrap up her/his work. [11/29/2017 2:00 PM] pinewoodnut Lmk when you will be there and I'd like to help I'd like to help if you let me know when you'll be there [11/29/2017 2:09 PM] talkers I should be avail too on Sat evening [11/29/2017 2:09 PM] agr0090 1:15pm [11/29/2017 2:09 PM] stephenie. That'll do. Thx. [11/29/2017 2:10 PM] pinewoodnut I'm in. [11/29/2017 2:11 PM] pinewoodnut I can post it on the calendar. How much time do we think we want? {Reactions} 👍 [11/29/2017 2:11 PM] agr0090 2 hours I would guess [11/29/2017 2:12 PM] pinewoodnut Ok. I'll submit it [11/29/2017 2:18 PM] pinewoodnut Is the rotary working again? [11/29/2017 2:25 PM] talkers Yes, the rotary is back up [11/29/2017 2:31 PM] talkers I submitted Laser Maintenance as an event to get it on the calendar. [11/29/2017 2:32 PM] agr0090 Amusing that from what I can find this class of laser tube claims a 6-10k hour lifespan (4-6 years at 4 hours per day), but typically only carry a 6-10 month warranty. Not sure on if output over time is flat and then falls off rapidly at end of life or has a steady decline, will have to measure output of current tube. [11/29/2017 2:33 PM] talkers @pinewoodnut beat me to adding it to the calendar, lol [11/29/2017 2:34 PM] pinewoodnut Did we do any testing with this tube when it was installed? [11/29/2017 2:34 PM] talkers @AGr @lukeiamyourfather it would be a great time to check the alignment of the tube, which is off a little bit [11/29/2017 2:34 PM] talkers We have a power meter to test current output [11/29/2017 2:35 PM] pinewoodnut Just interested in any power output numbers we got when it was installed....... Graphs are coooooool [11/29/2017 2:52 PM] stephenie. Blue tape "signs" up in multiple locations in Laser Area. Also added "New lasers ETA is Tues, 12/5. More downtime for install" just to prepare folks. [11/29/2017 3:06 PM] merissa4308 Catching up on discussion... Thanks yall for helping with communication! [11/29/2017 4:02 PM] canibalcrab It was measured at 130watts when we got it. That's what the new one should be as well [11/29/2017 4:38 PM] talkers It will be interesting to see what it is at now [11/29/2017 4:40 PM] merissa4308 I've never used the meter to test output. Pearce could you be available on Saturday to show me and others some test/maint procedures? [11/29/2017 4:40 PM] canibalcrab Well people crank it to 100 all the time. The life is rated at lower usages [11/29/2017 4:40 PM] canibalcrab Maybe. Let me make sure I'm not doing stuff with dani {Reactions} 👍 [11/29/2017 7:24 PM] canibalcrab I'm setting up the Polyprinter one [11/29/2017 7:24 PM] canibalcrab New thunder lasers have an optical z now instead of the physical {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/385602031148335134/JPEG_20171129_192353.jpg?ex=67b92760&is=67b7d5e0&hm=0d40ad8831e74de8e9a8f852fd00d982b0c6f269bd9a936e8990e716c076a562& [11/29/2017 8:27 PM] agr0090 The z travel limit switch is optical? [11/29/2017 8:50 PM] canibalcrab On the new one we got at Polyprinter yes. Hopefully the new ones for the space do too [11/29/2017 8:50 PM] canibalcrab That way you can't crash the head into your work. [11/29/2017 8:51 PM] canibalcrab Currently it's physically limited underneath the table. So if you have a tall piece you can easily crash it [11/29/2017 11:28 PM] canibalcrab Unpacking a new thunder has made me realize how much of a beating we put the nova 63 through [11/29/2017 11:56 PM] pinewoodnut Let's hope that having 2 more will help to spread some of the load around...... But I won't be holding my breath [11/30/2017 7:32 PM] stephenie. @merissa @AGr What's the plan for staging the crates? How long once they arrive before we uncrate? Begin install? Last I looked, the receiving dock still had items stored there. We're going to be taking up real estate. [11/30/2017 7:34 PM] agr0090 plan is dissassemble crates and put lasers in laser area immediately [11/30/2017 7:43 PM] stephenie. How long is time to turnkey? First laser class on Tuesday starts at 5:30p. [11/30/2017 7:45 PM] merissa4308 It's not very reasonable to make a plan for something we dont know how long will take and we dont know what time they'll arrive [11/30/2017 7:46 PM] merissa4308 They might get there at 9am, or maybe it will be 5pm, just dont know [11/30/2017 7:46 PM] stephenie. Agreed. [11/30/2017 7:47 PM] stephenie. Which means @john a gorman needs a Plan B for the classes. And automotive needs a heads up. [11/30/2017 7:47 PM] merissa4308 I don't see a laser class on Tuesday? [11/30/2017 7:48 PM] stephenie. Nix the 5:30, that's a classroom class on Inkscape. 7p is Holiday Ornaments [11/30/2017 7:48 PM] merissa4308 Ack, ok yeah see it now [11/30/2017 7:48 PM] stephenie. Holiday Ornaments = @pinewoodnut [11/30/2017 7:49 PM] stephenie. He needs a Plan B. [11/30/2017 7:49 PM] merissa4308 With how flakey the information the shipping company has given me, I hate to say cancel it [11/30/2017 7:50 PM] merissa4308 But know we should have the new lasers up and running as quickly as possible [11/30/2017 7:50 PM] stephenie. Wait until the day of to make a go/no-go decision on the class. [11/30/2017 7:52 PM] stephenie. Oh, I don't doubt the team will work like gangbusters to get them up and running pronto. I'm looking at keeping goodwill with our already frustrated users and staying on automotive's good side. Open communication about the process and temporary headaches will go a long way. [11/30/2017 7:55 PM] merissa4308 Understand. We need folks to be patient with us right now as the area is the best it can be at the moment. And sadly we're at the mercy of a timeline we can't control 🙁 [11/30/2017 7:55 PM] talkers The ornament class is a good one. Esp for Christmas [11/30/2017 7:56 PM] canibalcrab People just need to understand we aren't in charge of the postal service [11/30/2017 7:56 PM] canibalcrab But that will never happen {Reactions} 👍 [11/30/2017 7:56 PM] talkers We just set up the lasers Weds evening & Thursday [11/30/2017 7:57 PM] merissa4308 As for automotive, I don't see any planned activities there, but we can ask tom if he's ok with us using the non-lift bay during uncrating. I don't think we'll be in the way there for long. And we really need logistics to keep the loading dock clear. We cleared it before Thanksgiving, they need to keep from storing things there [11/30/2017 7:58 PM] merissa4308 What do you mean John? [11/30/2017 7:59 PM] talkers To work around the classes. I agree with you about using the 3rd Bay. I can message Tom if you wish [11/30/2017 7:59 PM] merissa4308 I'd say it's more important to move classes and get lasers up and running myself [11/30/2017 8:00 PM] talkers Classes can't be moved [11/30/2017 8:00 PM] stephenie. Class can be cancelled. [11/30/2017 8:00 PM] merissa4308 You have a laser class Wednesday night as well [11/30/2017 8:00 PM] talkers They have to be cancelled and rescheduled for the 20+ people signed up. Diff on the install is 24 hrd [11/30/2017 8:01 PM] talkers My Weds class is classroom based [11/30/2017 8:01 PM] merissa4308 Wednesday, 8pm, making boxes [11/30/2017 8:01 PM] merissa4308 thursday night is tours [11/30/2017 8:02 PM] merissa4308 brandon and I are not available Thursday-Saturday as we'll be out of state [11/30/2017 8:02 PM] stephenie. Not the noon and 6p rotary classes. [11/30/2017 8:02 PM] stephenie. Not classroom based. [11/30/2017 8:03 PM] talkers Merissa, you are right. I was looking at the Tuesday class [11/30/2017 8:05 PM] talkers I'll be extremely upset if my classes are cancelled. [11/30/2017 8:06 PM] merissa4308 You want new lasers up and running right? [11/30/2017 8:06 PM] merissa4308 I want to find a solution, but we need help and cooperation from everyone [11/30/2017 8:07 PM] merissa4308 Like I said, we don't have an absolute time of delivery, so we'll have to wait and see [11/30/2017 8:08 PM] talkers I can wait another week for the lasers [11/30/2017 8:08 PM] merissa4308 And you think other members would agree? [11/30/2017 8:08 PM] talkers Do you and Brandon have to be there to install the new ones? [11/30/2017 8:09 PM] merissa4308 Nope, volunteers are free to help [11/30/2017 8:09 PM] talkers Yes, I think people will wait an extra 24 hours, esp those signed up [11/30/2017 8:09 PM] stephenie. Do we have qualified volunteers lined up? [11/30/2017 8:09 PM] talkers As long as they get in by Friday, I'll help [11/30/2017 8:09 PM] merissa4308 define qualified [11/30/2017 8:10 PM] merissa4308 I have no idea what qualified means [11/30/2017 8:10 PM] stephenie. They know how to install these babies? [11/30/2017 8:10 PM] merissa4308 this is all learn as we go [11/30/2017 8:10 PM] stephenie. LOL! [11/30/2017 8:10 PM] merissa4308 seriously, no one is a pro here [11/30/2017 8:12 PM] stephenie. OK [11/30/2017 8:22 PM] agr0090 I'm qualified, I read the manual {Reactions} 😛 👍 [11/30/2017 8:25 PM] merissa4308 @pearce , @lukeiamyourfather , anyone else involved in the last thunder delivery? [11/30/2017 8:26 PM] canibalcrab Pretty easy setup. Did one last night, easy enough [11/30/2017 8:29 PM] merissa4308 how long would you say it took? [11/30/2017 8:30 PM] agr0090 Main part is setup / prep we've been doing the past month, should just be plugging in and verifying alignment and functionality when they arrive [11/30/2017 8:34 PM] canibalcrab Yeah biggest part is unpacking [11/30/2017 8:34 PM] canibalcrab It comes aligned. I had to move the red dot a bit [11/30/2017 8:34 PM] canibalcrab But should check [11/30/2017 8:35 PM] merissa4308 So yes, the best thing will be to have help this weekend doing final prep so actual installation goes quickly and we don't impose on users/classes [11/30/2017 8:36 PM] merissa4308 Saturday afternoon, think it's on the calendar as starting at 1:15 [11/30/2017 8:37 PM] merissa4308 come on out and help! [11/30/2017 8:50 PM] pinewoodnut I read the manual AND watched the videos too, so I'm qualified :) {Reactions} 😃 👍 (2) [11/30/2017 9:48 PM] stephenie. Y'all crack me up like an egg. [11/30/2017 10:01 PM] pinewoodnut Is there a reason I can't do my class on Nova 63 while the small ones are being installed? Other than too many people in too small a space? [11/30/2017 10:11 PM] canibalcrab Ventilation disconnections [11/30/2017 10:19 PM] pinewoodnut Ok....fair [11/30/2017 10:20 PM] agr0090 T is already there for new Nova near counter, will just be connecting one section of semi rigid ducting to it [11/30/2017 10:20 PM] pinewoodnut I can email all the people who are signed up for my class to see if they have an alternate time that works for everyone. [11/30/2017 10:30 PM] merissa4308 I think we can work around classes if they're not too big [11/30/2017 10:31 PM] merissa4308 Might be a little distracting, but shouldn't have to take the 63 down [12/1/2017 4:55 PM] talkers Is William on here? He expressed interest on Talk in helping [12/1/2017 5:01 PM] merissa4308 Not sure, but that would be great! [12/1/2017 5:01 PM] merissa4308 Quick poll... Who's planning to come help on Saturday? [12/1/2017 5:07 PM] talkers I was planning on being there in the evening. I'll try to make it by 1pm {Reactions} 👍 [12/2/2017 7:21 PM] merissa4308 Thunder got a lot of tlc today! Alignment, lense and mirrors cleaned, tube measured 125 watts! Should be performing great now [12/2/2017 7:22 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386688510633181185/IMG_20171202_135217.jpg?ex=67b926bd&is=67b7d53d&hm=5b8daaf85a933c1e67e661f4e0928167986b2ff0544fbe5d8488707e05a8f8f3& [12/2/2017 7:22 PM] merissa4308 Will start documenting these maintenance events on the wiki [12/2/2017 7:23 PM] merissa4308 Big thanks to David S and Stephenie for their hard work [12/2/2017 7:23 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386688921326583818/IMG_20171202_163011.jpg?ex=67b9271f&is=67b7d59f&hm=8415a5386f4f0587b2966977f3e8c1d4ee213d0d8fa8c36a22efc9d83e4ce421& [12/2/2017 7:24 PM] merissa4308 Along with @AGr 😉 [12/2/2017 7:24 PM] merissa4308 More work happening on the Zing after dinner [12/2/2017 7:29 PM] canibalcrab On way up now. Hitting home Depot on the way [12/2/2017 8:35 PM] merissa4308 Pearce are you there? Can you tell me the size of the co2 air hose? [12/2/2017 8:38 PM] talkers Thank you @merissa @AGr @stephenie @pinewoodnut [12/2/2017 8:38 PM] talkers Are you thinking of checking the power output on the Zing? [12/2/2017 8:39 PM] merissa4308 Yes that's the plan to do next [12/2/2017 8:39 PM] talkers Great. Thank you {Reactions} 👍 [12/2/2017 9:33 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386721706598989824/IMG_20171202_211920.jpg?ex=67b945a7&is=67b7f427&hm=2ef6600670d863dc464e232234cf4f3b5ab5330b1a9510d75a843de2818a9f69& [12/2/2017 10:34 PM] agr0090 Yay, didn't let any smoke out {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386736810304471052/IMG_20171202_223322.jpg?ex=67b953b8&is=67b80238&hm=37ac2a249a03981993362df6899c91eb37a0a337d98c212e0b79f2a54f89207c& [12/2/2017 10:48 PM] talkers New relay? [12/2/2017 11:33 PM] merissa4308 Adding blast gate and improving switch on zing {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386751845319704577/20171202_233230.jpg?ex=67b961b9&is=67b81039&hm=884a630c225ecd8ec850960aca6a6954d8e345b0938cb10ae3bd427cdf8ef428& [12/2/2017 11:52 PM] talkers Ohhhh that looks fancy! [12/2/2017 11:52 PM] talkers I haven't seen it open. That would be a fun picture to share with the community [12/3/2017 3:38 AM] merissa4308 Zing power is at 30 watts [12/3/2017 3:39 AM] merissa4308 Realized we left without strapping the CO2 bottle back to the Thunder desk after moving things. Can someone take care of that so it's more secure? [12/3/2017 4:21 AM] canibalcrab Sure [12/3/2017 4:29 AM] canibalcrab Done [12/3/2017 8:28 AM] merissa4308 Thanks! You're awesome! [12/3/2017 12:27 PM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386946566050676746/IMG_20171203_100350.jpg?ex=67b96e52&is=67b81cd2&hm=ea6f6bced6bf0c93300e1662884830ba002ff41c8855ffbbbf25eb4dabf0dc4f& [12/3/2017 12:28 PM] clone1018 @merissa happened too soon [12/3/2017 12:28 PM] clone1018 Thankfully it was all clean stuff [12/3/2017 12:30 PM] merissa4308 Was it left or is somebody working on their auto stuff in laser? [12/3/2017 12:43 PM] merissa4308 Reviewing cam. Was left by someone driving a blue car who drove in at 8:15, and dropped the stuff after moving someone's things who was working in laser [12/3/2017 12:47 PM] merissa4308 I'll be adding big obvious signage now I guess. {Reactions} 👍 [12/3/2017 12:48 PM] merissa4308 It looks like the owner of the stuff is still there if you're willing to talk to the member about it @LukeStrickland [12/3/2017 12:48 PM] clone1018 Yeah I can tell them about dirty stuff [12/3/2017 12:49 PM] clone1018 Who? [12/3/2017 12:49 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/386952057862750218/unknown.png?ex=67b9736f&is=67b821ef&hm=a6181289c936abe4b135a97120050cf674d1ba53aef9a40f33e0119538380c68& [12/3/2017 12:49 PM] merissa4308 Laser space is for laser work only [12/3/2017 12:50 PM] clone1018 Well I think he might be cutting gaskets ? [12/3/2017 12:50 PM] clone1018 Which is technically laser work [12/3/2017 12:50 PM] merissa4308 ok [12/3/2017 1:15 PM] talkers That's Ron the Fireman. Super nice guy [12/3/2017 1:17 PM] merissa4308 Thanks John. At first I thought the auto parts were just left behind, not part of a laser project. Not ideal to have auto parts on the table (something we feared by moving the table), but looks like he's doing it in a clean way. [12/3/2017 1:19 PM] merissa4308 The first pic made me jump to conclusions 😨 [12/3/2017 1:19 PM] talkers He does a lot of volunteer work restoring an old old fire engine. Neat stuff {Reactions} 👍 [12/3/2017 1:22 PM] gbeauw Looks like you guys and gals are doing some great work. {Reactions} 💪 😃 [12/3/2017 1:23 PM] gbeauw Glad the Zing is still doing 30 watts [12/3/2017 1:24 PM] gbeauw Sorry I couldn't be there this weekend. [12/3/2017 1:26 PM] merissa4308 All good, I was happy to see full power too! [12/3/2017 1:27 PM] merissa4308 The mirrors in the left side housing were pretty dirty, so that might have been affecting performance [12/3/2017 1:28 PM] merissa4308 Thinking of planning a January Laser Maintenance Day for Sunday, January 7th [12/3/2017 1:29 PM] merissa4308 anyone have problems with that day? [12/3/2017 1:42 PM] talkers That's great. Sundays are usually quieter than Saturdays. [12/3/2017 1:43 PM] talkers Just told Tommy that discord is picking up for comms. He will look into it again [12/3/2017 3:21 PM] pinewoodnut January 7th will work for me [12/3/2017 4:46 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/387011776275021824/IMG_20171203_164556.jpg?ex=67b9024d&is=67b7b0cd&hm=330dc3ee9ea2eba383eac64c1196fe713d56112942da05aa82cc80949ea44bba& [12/3/2017 4:46 PM] talkers ? [12/3/2017 4:47 PM] merissa4308 air sensor got moved from the wall to the back of the thunder [12/3/2017 4:47 PM] merissa4308 https://dallasmakerspace.org/air/ {Embed} Dallas Makerspace https://dallasmakerspace.org/air/ Dallas Makerspace Dallas Makerspace is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, shared community workshop and laboratory. We are an organized group of local artists, engineers, makers, and thinkers who work together to provide tools and learning resources to the public. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IuUw5bVFeHu-idzPJBCBbJXc9qwKh25ykxyvpOLqvRE/https/dallasmakerspace.org/wp-content/uploads/Dallas-Makerspace-Logo-Transparent-Long.png [12/3/2017 4:51 PM] canibalcrab It's a tracking bug to steal all of your laser files {Reactions} 😁 [12/3/2017 4:57 PM] talkers Bah. Just go to my member drive [12/3/2017 5:06 PM] clone1018 All of that auto junk is still on the laser table btw, 10 hours later [12/3/2017 5:08 PM] merissa4308 🙁 definitely not excellent to tie up workspace for that long, no matter if it's in laser or anywhere else. I'll be adding signage to the area saying keep workspaces clear [12/3/2017 5:08 PM] merissa4308 from the cam looks like the member is waiting to use the laser though [12/3/2017 5:08 PM] merissa4308 or just using the computers... can't tell [12/3/2017 5:11 PM] merissa4308 FYI -- once the new lasers are here I'll be more strictly enforcing that the computers are for loading laser jobs only, not designing or web searching [12/3/2017 6:02 PM] talkers I'll tell Ron. He's still here, working on the gasket design [12/3/2017 6:08 PM] merissa4308 thank you [12/4/2017 12:25 AM] agr0090 What do you call a fitting like this, so I can have an air line solidly attached to sheet metal the air is passing through [12/4/2017 12:25 AM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/387127163876409344/unknown.png?ex=67b96dc4&is=67b81c44&hm=784b7d03bdf80cf5eb765e7cf23ac287c41f7eb9c07825ee98fd58bde8c5ddff& [12/4/2017 12:36 AM] agr0090 looks like bulkhead union / coupling, but what I drew is apparently not common, might just go with grommets and zipties instead [12/4/2017 1:17 PM] talkers @AGr ask Tim. It's his world [12/4/2017 1:21 PM] merissa4308 Hmm looks like he's not on discord [12/4/2017 1:22 PM] merissa4308 @pearce is the info I shared from Thunder on belt replacement procedure enough for us to get them changed out? [12/4/2017 1:22 PM] merissa4308 They're in a box in the tool cabinet [12/4/2017 1:25 PM] canibalcrab Did we get the big ones? [12/4/2017 1:27 PM] merissa4308 Ummm I guess so... I requested replacement belts from thunder and they sent us some 😀 [12/4/2017 1:27 PM] merissa4308 I wanted to do that Saturday but we were passed our scheduled down time and a queue was forming waiting to get on the thunder [12/4/2017 1:28 PM] agr0090 By not common I mean not stocked at home depot, my requirement is what I can pick up in 20 minutes. Would be 4.64 each off mcmaster-carr (female instead of male npt that I drew), or 7.71 each for barbed male bulkhead/throughwall fittings [12/4/2017 1:36 PM] canibalcrab Let's wait for delivery for the others before removing the belts from the 63. It works currently if you don't use high speeds [12/4/2017 1:36 PM] canibalcrab I'd hate to take it down when it's the only big one available [12/4/2017 1:37 PM] merissa4308 Good point :) [12/4/2017 1:40 PM] merissa4308 David did a test of some of his snowflakes for us on Saturday after cleaning and alignment and they came out great, very sharp lines no wavy issues, so we were pleased [12/4/2017 1:40 PM] merissa4308 Mostly yeah just need to find the right settings [12/4/2017 1:42 PM] canibalcrab John is describing a similar but separate issue [12/4/2017 4:15 PM] merissa4308 Anyone with a truck available to pick up a 4×8 pallet for us sometime this week? [12/4/2017 4:15 PM] talkers My van is down ☹ [12/4/2017 4:16 PM] talkers But I could pull a small trailer [12/4/2017 4:17 PM] talkers What's on the pallet? [12/4/2017 4:17 PM] merissa4308 Will use it to ship the saur [12/4/2017 4:18 PM] talkers So not heavy [12/4/2017 4:18 PM] merissa4308 Right would be an empty pallet to start :) [12/4/2017 4:20 PM] merissa4308 Still figuring out how to buy a single pallet... Looks like they're usually sold in bulk [12/4/2017 4:25 PM] canibalcrab The thunders should show up on pallets [12/4/2017 4:26 PM] canibalcrab PolyPrinter might still have the one ours came on. Asking. [12/4/2017 4:26 PM] merissa4308 Oh wow you're brilliant! I should have thought of that 😄 [12/4/2017 4:27 PM] merissa4308 Waiting to ship the saur till new ones get in anyways just in case [12/4/2017 4:28 PM] canibalcrab They do come on pallets [12/4/2017 4:29 PM] canibalcrab Poly still has it, but it was outside in the rain yesterday [12/4/2017 4:30 PM] merissa4308 Ok well I think we're good then. Just will make sure to tell folks to keep the pallet if I'm not there during uncrating [12/4/2017 4:30 PM] canibalcrab K [12/4/2017 10:27 PM] stansimmons2031 Are we still expecting the lasers on 12/5? [12/4/2017 10:27 PM] talkers That's the latest info [12/4/2017 10:31 PM] merissa4308 The shipping agent didn't respond to my email requesting an update today, so I'm not optimistic 😑 [12/4/2017 10:32 PM] merissa4308 typing up an email right now to thunder on the crappy shipping [12/4/2017 10:32 PM] talkers They are about a month off the estimate [12/4/2017 10:33 PM] merissa4308 Yep. Made it to the states on the day they said they'd get to us, and now delay after delay to get them to Carrollton [12/4/2017 10:34 PM] merissa4308 Really frustrated [12/4/2017 11:03 PM] talkers @merissa don't sweat it. Everyone is excited. Yet everyone understands the delays. They are just looking forward [12/4/2017 11:05 PM] merissa4308 thanks John 😃 just hate making everyone wait and the delivery being so out of our control [12/4/2017 11:05 PM] merissa4308 I'll post as soon as I know something though [12/4/2017 11:08 PM] talkers Everyone's cool about it. Happy they are coming in [12/4/2017 11:10 PM] stephenie. And the whiteboard notification has been helpful. Spoke with two users who don't read Talk and were excited to be in the loop via the board. They do understand it is a moving target. [12/4/2017 11:11 PM] merissa4308 That's awesome, thanks for taking care of that mode of communication Stephenie! [12/4/2017 11:11 PM] talkers Lots of people don't know about it at all. Maybe heard one is coming in... [12/4/2017 11:11 PM] stephenie. I'll update it tomorrow if necessary. [12/4/2017 11:12 PM] merissa4308 sounds good [12/4/2017 11:12 PM] talkers So when they hear a little, they are super thrilled [12/4/2017 11:12 PM] stephenie. I saw your full color guidelines. Is that file on your member drive? [12/4/2017 11:14 PM] merissa4308 I'm keeping my fingers crossed that tomorrow someone says the truck with the lasers has magically shown up 😄 [12/4/2017 11:15 PM] merissa4308 Stephenie can you send a message to Tom (TLAR) about possibly blocking the left auto bay whenever the lasers get here and we work to uncrate? [12/4/2017 11:16 PM] merissa4308 I don't think he uses discord [12/4/2017 11:22 PM] stephenie. Done. Will let you know his response. [12/4/2017 11:22 PM] merissa4308 Perfect, thank you! [12/4/2017 11:33 PM] stephenie. He writes that due to the late notice, probably not. [12/4/2017 11:34 PM] merissa4308 probably not what? [12/4/2017 11:34 PM] stephenie. not able to block the bay [12/4/2017 11:34 PM] merissa4308 It's a loading zone and pretty unavoidable [12/4/2017 11:35 PM] merissa4308 there really is no alternative [12/4/2017 11:35 PM] stephenie. I thought the loading zone was the space between the roll up door and the bay [12/4/2017 11:37 PM] merissa4308 Right, I'm not saying we're going to roll them into auto and leave them there, but they are large crates that we have to move through that area, possibly into the part of auto nearest the dock, for however long it takes to uncrate [12/4/2017 11:40 PM] stephenie. I hear you. [12/4/2017 11:41 PM] stephenie. We've waited until (possibly) 12-18 hrs before delivery to notify Tom. [12/4/2017 11:43 PM] merissa4308 I'm not going to debate something that is unavoidable, and as we discussed we wanted to give notification as a courtesy. If it becomes an issue for him he can discuss it with me or the board [12/4/2017 11:44 PM] talkers There should be plenty of room on the loading dock. [12/4/2017 11:45 PM] talkers Everything else might get pushed into the 3rd Bay 😬 [12/4/2017 11:45 PM] merissa4308 yeah, just two big crates, were trying to just let auto know about the activity [12/4/2017 11:45 PM] merissa4308 there is no third bay...? [12/4/2017 11:46 PM] talkers Three auto bays. Lift, behind lift, left of lift. [12/4/2017 11:46 PM] merissa4308 there are only two bays and a loading zone [12/4/2017 11:46 PM] merissa4308 semantics though [12/4/2017 11:47 PM] talkers Luke S was going to working on clearing the loading zone. I didn't check tonight [12/4/2017 11:47 PM] merissa4308 It was pretty clear on saturday, just empty carts to move [12/4/2017 11:47 PM] merissa4308 think he's monitoring it [12/4/2017 11:53 PM] stephenie. Tom says automotive has a committee meeting tomorrow and they are bring a car into the left side bay during the mtg. [12/4/2017 11:54 PM] talkers Properly placed, that car is about 12 feet from the garage door [12/4/2017 11:55 PM] stephenie. I am just the messenger. [12/4/2017 11:55 PM] merissa4308 No notice of a meeting on the calendar or Talk 🙃 [12/4/2017 11:55 PM] stephenie. See above. [12/4/2017 11:55 PM] talkers Huh [12/4/2017 11:55 PM] talkers Still, should not affect us [12/4/2017 11:56 PM] merissa4308 👍 sorry you have to hear my frustration [12/4/2017 11:57 PM] merissa4308 I'm done whining for the night 😄 but like I said, I'll post the minute I hear anything about delivery [12/4/2017 11:58 PM] stephenie. Sounds great. I'll monitor discord tomorrow with bated breath. [12/4/2017 11:59 PM] merissa4308 Well, I said I was done but I just got an email response from Thunder. [12/5/2017 12:00 AM] merissa4308 Thunder talked with the shipper, says we will receive it "this week and before delivery they will call and confirm the time" [12/5/2017 12:00 AM] talkers Oh. I was going that since we bought two, we got a third free? [12/5/2017 12:00 AM] merissa4308 The number they have is my cell, so I'll update [12/5/2017 12:01 AM] talkers *hoping [12/5/2017 12:01 AM] merissa4308 haha I wish! [12/5/2017 12:01 AM] merissa4308 throw in some free lenses maybe? 😃 [12/5/2017 12:01 AM] talkers This week is still good. January bad. [12/5/2017 12:01 AM] merissa4308 haha yes very true [12/5/2017 12:07 AM] merissa4308 so if they arrive tomorrow or Wednesday, Brandon and I will be there that evening to uncrate and install with whoever else is available [12/5/2017 12:08 AM] merissa4308 We'll be in Nebraska Thursday through Saturday afternoon though, so if others can uncrate and move them if they arrive Thursday or Friday that'd be greatly appreciated! [12/5/2017 12:09 AM] merissa4308 (all plans avoid interfering with classes) [12/5/2017 12:13 AM] stephenie. I posted an update to the Delivery thread. Tagged Tom as a way to get a little cooperation. [12/5/2017 12:14 AM] merissa4308 👍 good deal [12/5/2017 12:41 AM] stansimmons2031 I think Tom was thinking you were wanting the entire left bay. Both crates should fit mostly on the leveler and just beyond. [12/5/2017 12:42 AM] merissa4308 Yeah just might encroach for a short while [12/5/2017 12:42 AM] canibalcrab im pretty sure last time there wasnt a shelf in the way, but should be good [12/5/2017 12:43 AM] merissa4308 Sorry for the miscommunication on my part [12/5/2017 12:44 AM] stansimmons2031 I'm planning on being here for the delivery. [12/5/2017 12:45 AM] merissa4308 That's awesome! Thank you so much! [12/5/2017 11:29 AM] clone1018 @merissa a delivery truck is here [12/5/2017 11:29 AM] clone1018 not sure if its lasers [12/5/2017 11:29 AM] clone1018 I'm going to head over just incase [12/5/2017 11:35 AM] canibalcrab I'll be by in just a bit but can't stay for long [12/5/2017 11:35 AM] canibalcrab And back later for setup [12/5/2017 11:37 AM] stephenie. john and I are here in the Lecture Hall. [12/5/2017 11:46 AM] clone1018 False alarm [12/5/2017 11:46 AM] clone1018 Some member parked there [12/5/2017 11:46 AM] clone1018 Got him to move so we dont get rejected [12/5/2017 11:46 AM] clone1018 Cc @pearce false alarm [12/5/2017 11:50 AM] canibalcrab Booo I still have to swing by. Make sure we keep the pallets if y'all uncrate them early [12/5/2017 12:06 PM] merissa4308 Omg I got so excited for a sec! [12/5/2017 12:06 PM] clone1018 me too [12/5/2017 12:06 PM] clone1018 stan's got it now so I'll show up some time after 5 [12/5/2017 12:13 PM] stansimmons2031 Rhett got a box truck, I'm excited for him, but disappointed that there weren't lasers inside. 😉 {Reactions} 😂 [12/5/2017 12:58 PM] stephenie. Talked with Merissa during maintenance day re: the wiki. Added a log of laser maintenance to preserve power history. Got her go-ahead to re-organize it without removing info, aka housekeeping and consolidation. Example: eliminating the redundancies between About and Purpose. {Reactions} 👍 [12/5/2017 1:02 PM] merissa4308 I added the bit about the zing maintenance to the new section {Reactions} 👍 [12/5/2017 1:03 PM] clone1018 @StanSimmons more people blocking the loading dock.... [12/5/2017 1:05 PM] clone1018 @merissa is this a specialty freight company or fedex/usps/ups? [12/5/2017 1:05 PM] merissa4308 I wish I knew :( [12/5/2017 1:05 PM] clone1018 that knowledge will help calm my nerves [12/5/2017 1:06 PM] clone1018 fedex/usps/ups will just gtfo if someone is blocking [12/5/2017 1:06 PM] merissa4308 I can't get any specifics [12/5/2017 1:06 PM] clone1018 ok thx [12/5/2017 1:06 PM] merissa4308 I hope they keep to their word that they will call me day of to let me know time [12/5/2017 1:06 PM] stephenie. Re: wiki...do we really maintain the laser computers or did that move to infrastructure? [12/5/2017 1:07 PM] merissa4308 Um yeah I'd say just strike that comment [12/5/2017 1:28 PM] .somecallmery Anyone have issues homing the zing lately? It's been a while, so maybe I'm dumb. But when I disable xy, position the head and hit go it travels to one side in x, returns to the other side and then moves down a little in y and calls that home. [12/5/2017 1:30 PM] canibalcrab Not sure why it's going to it's reset switches to do that [12/5/2017 1:31 PM] canibalcrab We saw it the other night and couldn't figure it out [12/5/2017 1:49 PM] merissa4308 Yeah it did that right after we moved it to its new spot and someone was able to fix it. @john a gorman was that you? [12/5/2017 1:52 PM] talkers @LukeStrickland let's use the belt with the 2 posts by the laser work table to block off the ramp, if we don't have cones [12/5/2017 1:52 PM] talkers @merissa no. Not me. I can look at it late tonight. {Reactions} 👍 [12/5/2017 1:59 PM] merissa4308 Shipping agent emailed me back... [12/5/2017 2:00 PM] merissa4308 "We had some complication with the warehouse for driver to arrange pickup. So sorry for the delay on responding as I is also having problem with our email server. The cargo actual pick up from the warehouse today in Los Angeles due to release issue at the warehouse. We had to pay storage charges, not bill to you as this was an error between China and their consolidator. We’re getting the pro# from Roadrunner. Once I have receive it, will on forward to you." [12/5/2017 2:01 PM] merissa4308 So definitely can stand down for a couple days 😢 [12/5/2017 2:02 PM] clone1018 wtf [12/5/2017 2:04 PM] merissa4308 😭 [12/5/2017 2:06 PM] clone1018 someone needs to middleman this company and have a stock of lasers in the US lol [12/5/2017 2:06 PM] stephenie. Thank you for keeping us up to date, @merissa . I'll update Talk. [12/5/2017 2:08 PM] merissa4308 I know really. Recommending to Thunder they choose a new shipping company [12/5/2017 2:09 PM] canibalcrab How much did we pay for shipping?? {Reactions} 🤔 [12/5/2017 2:12 PM] merissa4308 $2,500 😡 [12/5/2017 2:13 PM] merissa4308 "Shipping cost to door" [12/5/2017 2:14 PM] canibalcrab They have a warehouse in LA that's where we got our laser from. [12/5/2017 2:14 PM] canibalcrab We ordered weeks after laser did [12/5/2017 2:14 PM] canibalcrab Something doesn't sound right [12/5/2017 2:15 PM] merissa4308 They didn't have 35s here so had to come from china is what I was told [12/5/2017 2:19 PM] canibalcrab Yeah [12/5/2017 2:19 PM] canibalcrab They probably made it when we ordered [12/5/2017 2:20 PM] merissa4308 Yeah that's what they said, and sent a video when it was complete and getting crated [12/5/2017 2:21 PM] merissa4308 I also got a quote for another 63 back then tjat we didnt pursue and shipping cost would have been the same [12/5/2017 2:21 PM] stephenie. Donner and Blitzen (their new names). It feels like Santa has passed over DMS. {Reactions} 😪 [12/5/2017 2:21 PM] merissa4308 For parts seems like those come from a us warehouse and can get here quick [12/5/2017 2:22 PM] merissa4308 The sleigh just got delayed {Reactions} 🎅 [12/5/2017 2:22 PM] merissa4308 We'll be ready for the last minute christmas gift makers [12/5/2017 2:27 PM] stephenie. @StanSimmons posted on Talk (but merissa can't see it): "I wonder if contacting Thunder and asking for half price on a rotary tool would be appropriate compensation for the colossal cluster-*@#& that this shipment has been?" [12/5/2017 3:15 PM] merissa4308 Hah I'm not great with that kind of negotiation, would rather ask for partial refund on shipping, but if anyone else wants to try 😄 [12/5/2017 4:33 PM] talkers Re rotary. The motor was rubbing against a pulley. Fixed it with Mike Churchill and Tim B. Also added a cable tie so the cord doesn't get pulled out [12/5/2017 4:34 PM] talkers I added an Ethernet cable to the Visio. The wifi was flakey for the Chromecast. [12/5/2017 4:40 PM] gbeauw Someone else reported homing issue on Zing after move. I thought Pierce did something and it started working. [12/5/2017 4:41 PM] gbeauw Zing TS said sensors need cleaning. Has anyone taken sides off and used air to blast it clean lately? [12/5/2017 4:43 PM] merissa4308 Yes, we did a thorough cleaning on saturday [12/5/2017 4:50 PM] canibalcrab We just rolled with it homing incorrectly. I didn't actually get a test cut in after the power test [12/5/2017 5:56 PM] gbeauw @merissa Did you take off the side covers when you cleaned it? [12/5/2017 5:57 PM] merissa4308 Yes [12/5/2017 5:58 PM] gbeauw Hmmm. I'll have to get back with Epilog TS and see where to go from here. [12/5/2017 5:59 PM] gbeauw I'll call tomorrow. [12/5/2017 5:59 PM] merissa4308 Ok, well let's see if John has any luck tonight when he looks at it [12/5/2017 6:05 PM] gbeauw These need to be inspected and cleaned in the Zing. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/387756299393433612/zinglimitsensor.jpg?ex=67b914b1&is=67b7c331&hm=f28b97fd9bc5297050fac5174d03c0a5bb4063f6a8d06c9263ac65baceac9553& [12/5/2017 6:05 PM] gbeauw Per Epilog TS: This will be found on the right side of the machine. You will have taken off the control panel and the keypad display to get rid of the panel. When you get access to this make sure that 1) the carriage assembly can reach the sensor. 2) Make sure the sensor is clean, you may use a dry Q-tip or compressed air to get rid of any excess debris. [12/5/2017 6:08 PM] gbeauw If John can get in there and inspect all the wires for loose connections and make sure these are clean and we still have the problem, I'll call Epilog TS tomorrow. Just let me know what happens tonight. {Reactions} 👍 [12/5/2017 6:15 PM] canibalcrab It goes and tags home but doesn't register the origin you wanted to set it to [12/5/2017 6:15 PM] merissa4308 @AGr is headed up to the space too, so maybe he can give it a try as well [12/5/2017 6:42 PM] canibalcrab We didn't take that side of the machine off [12/5/2017 6:42 PM] canibalcrab Just blew it out and it's working now {Reactions} 👍 [12/5/2017 6:44 PM] merissa4308 👍 👍 [12/5/2017 10:12 PM] talkers @pearce awesome. Thank you [12/5/2017 10:27 PM] stephenie. I finished consolidating the wiki. Grouped related material together. Created an outline format; previously all items carried the same weight, which made it hard to visually sort through, plus made the page very long. Checked all links; fixed two broken ones. [12/5/2017 10:30 PM] stephenie. Two subpages can be retired. I've kept the links on the main page until I get the go-ahead to delete the subpages. One page was just for the Thunders. All but 2 or 3 items on the page were repeated from the main page. Other page (https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/MakerSpace_Lasers) contained no new info. {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/MakerSpace_Lasers) MakerSpace Lasers) [12/5/2017 11:30 PM] pinewoodnut Can we order a couple of USB hubs for the Donner and Thunder workstations? Put them on the desktop instead of reaching under for the ports on the machines. [12/5/2017 11:31 PM] merissa4308 There is a single usb port cord for each on the desktop [12/5/2017 11:32 PM] merissa4308 Where the keyboard cord comes up [12/5/2017 11:33 PM] talkers It's for people that use USB sticks [12/5/2017 11:34 PM] merissa4308 ? [12/5/2017 11:35 PM] merissa4308 Is what's there on the desk not sufficient? [12/5/2017 11:35 PM] talkers To transfer image files. I recommend a 16 port hub for each. They fill up fast as people forget them 😂 [12/5/2017 11:36 PM] merissa4308 Have you tried what is there? Usb connector cord at each station? [12/5/2017 11:36 PM] talkers Oh, I hear you. I hadn't seen it yet [12/5/2017 11:36 PM] talkers That would work [12/5/2017 11:37 PM] merissa4308 Great, just making sure we're all on the same page [12/5/2017 11:37 PM] talkers ✌ [12/6/2017 2:30 AM] agr0090 https://www.amazon.com/Allwood-Counter-Island-options-Routed/dp/B01N9LFD7Q [12/6/2017 2:31 AM] agr0090 Allwood 6/4" (1.5") x 18" x 84" Birch Table / Counter / Island Top [12/6/2017 2:31 AM] agr0090 is the counter that was used for the computers on the red wall [12/7/2017 1:11 PM] merissa4308 NEW LASER DELIVERY UPDATE! Now with actual tracking information! 😀 {Reactions} 😍 [12/7/2017 1:12 PM] merissa4308 Delivery estimated for Monday 12/11/17 [12/7/2017 1:12 PM] merissa4308 http://tools.rrts.com/LTLTrack/?searchValues=449631977 [12/7/2017 1:13 PM] merissa4308 Roadrunner tracking Pro# 449631977 [12/7/2017 1:14 PM] merissa4308 I'll be checking the tracking page and will update if I see any changes [12/7/2017 1:15 PM] merissa4308 @StanSimmons will you be around the space and available Monday? [12/7/2017 1:37 PM] clone1018 I'm available Monday and only work a block away, I can at least accept it if needed [12/7/2017 1:43 PM] merissa4308 Wohoo! Thanks Luke! I'll keep you posted [12/7/2017 3:51 PM] merissa4308 @stephenie or @pinewoodnut can yall update Talk? Also need to update Tom on the delivery... It looks like Auto's toolbox is being delivered Monday too so hopefully that won't be a big problem [12/7/2017 4:55 PM] stansimmons2031 I'll be available {Reactions} 👍 [12/7/2017 4:56 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/388463917942308864/JPEG_20171207_165634.jpg?ex=67b904b7&is=67b7b337&hm=3b30fb332c6bd4cbf57659405c276a42590e23f8d233f50e6ee4394b15fa63e7& [12/7/2017 4:57 PM] talkers I added a few little signs around the Space [12/7/2017 5:08 PM] talkers Talk updated with date and link {Reactions} 👍 (2) [12/7/2017 6:08 PM] merissa4308 Nice. Thanks! [12/7/2017 7:39 PM] stephenie. Tom knows. He's more relaxed about the delivery now. {Reactions} 👍 [12/7/2017 7:42 PM] talkers That's good news [12/7/2017 7:47 PM] stephenie. I'm concerned about today's post: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-engrave-and-cut-1000-leather-keychains/29943. Guy's not a member. Has a large production job. [12/7/2017 7:48 PM] stephenie. I've asked Bill to add an option to the RFID queue that asks, "is any part of the laser work for profit?" [12/7/2017 7:49 PM] stephenie. Hoping we could get metrics on how production is impacting the queue, instead of just speculating. [12/7/2017 7:56 PM] talkers Setting a max time if others are in que might be nec [12/7/2017 7:56 PM] canibalcrab fuck that [12/7/2017 7:57 PM] canibalcrab we dont have a ban on people making stuff for production [12/7/2017 7:58 PM] talkers We shouldn't [12/7/2017 8:59 PM] agr0090 We could increase laser per minute cost [12/7/2017 9:02 PM] agr0090 Or an exponential rate to discourage long usage time, so it costs multiple hundreds to use all day [12/7/2017 9:05 PM] stephenie. Another guy is there now doing a for-profit production run of 30sec jobs on stacks of wood blanks. Three people in queue. Next user has been waiting since 6p (3hrs). Prime time. We've got one laser for his type of job. He is only half way through the blanks. It's holiday time. There are people who want to make gifts for family, etc. Or just want to work on a hobby. It's a tough reality. [12/7/2017 9:07 PM] agr0090 Will be interesting to see how lasers next week impact resource contention [12/7/2017 9:08 PM] stephenie. Agreed. And I do want Bill to add that option where users indicate if the job is for-profit. I can give anecdotal evidence all day long. But it's not the same as metrics. [12/7/2017 9:09 PM] canibalcrab the other people could ask to get ahead of him, {Reactions} 👏 [12/7/2017 9:09 PM] agr0090 Resource allocation in a first come first serve basis only is hard to manage as dms scales [12/7/2017 9:09 PM] stephenie. One already has asked and was let in. [12/7/2017 9:10 PM] agr0090 I like the keep buying more lasers if the new ones stay busy approach {Reactions} 👆 [12/7/2017 9:10 PM] canibalcrab its not hard, i used to do it all the time. the 2 new lasers will help with queue [12/7/2017 9:10 PM] stephenie. I know @pearce. [12/7/2017 9:11 PM] canibalcrab increasing the cost isnt really the smartest, people are already sayinbg laser over charges [12/7/2017 9:33 PM] agr0090 Supply and demand is one option, could increase supply by raising rates and driving people away to make lasers more available {Reactions} 🤑 😬 [12/7/2017 9:34 PM] merissa4308 People produce things for sale throughout DMS. The guy who posted was being very polite about it and offered to run jobs in batches to prevent hogging the machine. This is exactly what I'd like to see all members do if they have big jobs {Reactions} 👆 (2) [12/7/2017 9:35 PM] talkers The MakerSpace as a whole allows people to profit from their activity at the Space. This is a good thing. For them and us. [12/7/2017 9:36 PM] talkers It is a community of shared resources, so we need to help with the balance [12/7/2017 9:38 PM] merissa4308 I'm not in favor of a policy on limiting usage time, so I don't really see collecting data on "production jobs" as being beneficial [12/7/2017 9:39 PM] talkers Judging and rating motives for projects is not a business I want to get into {Reactions} 👏 (2) [12/7/2017 9:44 PM] agr0090 Could develop dynamic pricing, just like the new toll roads, longer line = higher prices [12/7/2017 9:46 PM] merissa4308 Brandon's full of ideas 😝 [12/7/2017 9:46 PM] talkers Toll roads are the high speed lanes. Other paths avail in that scenario. What's the equivalent in laser? [12/7/2017 9:47 PM] merissa4308 Just ignore him 😆 [12/7/2017 9:48 PM] talkers But then he would install a digital coin op at 3am {Reactions} 😋 [12/8/2017 9:18 AM] talkers Who redid the C0² air lines at the lasers? They look great. Nice to finally have hangers too. Thank you! [12/8/2017 9:19 AM] merissa4308 Brandon 😀 [12/8/2017 9:19 AM] merissa4308 Will do the same on the new ones {Reactions} 👍 [12/8/2017 10:41 AM] talkers Thank you @AGr [12/9/2017 7:44 PM] davidkessinger9707 Actually there is a rule about commercial work and DMS can opt to charge for use of equipment. Charge whatever the commercial rate is if it is work being done during prime hours. If the person is stopping and allowing people to work that is one thing and being excellent - just tying it up for hours - that is differrent. [12/9/2017 7:49 PM] talkers Where is this rule documented? [12/9/2017 7:50 PM] merissa4308 I'd like to know as well @David Kessinger [12/9/2017 8:05 PM] stephenie. @David Kessinger you posted your replies on the wrong committee/chat room. [12/9/2017 8:22 PM] davidkessinger9707 I thought the issue was commercial work on the laser? [12/9/2017 8:27 PM] stephenie. @David Kessinger yes the laser, but you posted your replies under general_chatter. [12/9/2017 8:39 PM] merissa4308 David your interpretation of that rule is pretty different than what I got out of it when that rule came about in October 2016. At the time the discussion was all about using copy paper, supplies, breaking things, etc. Thanks for your thoughts though, I'll keep them in mind. [12/9/2017 8:40 PM] merissa4308 Has that rule every been implemented before? We have members that cost the organization thousands of dollars in fees, have they been invoiced? [12/9/2017 8:40 PM] stephenie. what fees? [12/9/2017 8:40 PM] merissa4308 not related to laser [12/9/2017 8:41 PM] stephenie. OK. Still would like to know. [12/9/2017 8:42 PM] merissa4308 I'll talk with you about it next time I see you, not trying to derail discussion. Really wondering if the rule's ever been implemented at all. {Reactions} 👍 [12/9/2017 8:43 PM] stephenie. Speaking of derailing: good things at Laser today. Will share once David is through... {Reactions} 😀 [12/9/2017 8:54 PM] davidkessinger9707 Merrisa: You are the Chair of Laser, have you ever submitted anything to the BoD asking for commercial reimbursement? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389248473989644288/image.png?ex=67b93c64&is=67b7eae4&hm=60f7eb3e0c84a59e0e30ce0d00521d9aa22d2599bcc07396bc7595087559df6f& [12/9/2017 8:54 PM] merissa4308 no I have not, and I have never interpreted the rule that way. Hence my questions [12/9/2017 8:56 PM] merissa4308 how do I quantify an expense to DMS for laser usage? If they are paying for their time there is no cost to the organization, it's just inconviencing other members who want to use the laser [12/9/2017 8:56 PM] davidkessinger9707 If you belive it is a problem, you can submit it to the BoD, if you don't think it is problem, then don't submit it. The discretion is given to the chair: "Determination of excess to be submitted by Committee Chairs and the member billed by resolution of the Board. " [12/9/2017 8:57 PM] merissa4308 So is there a reason you won't answer my question? [12/9/2017 8:58 PM] merissa4308 Trying to understand if there's a precedence here [12/9/2017 9:02 PM] davidkessinger9707 DMS is not established as a cheap manufacturing source. When someone becomes a problem, which apparently it is becoming, then they can be billed if the Chair wants to take action. If you think it's alright for someone to have unlimited use for only $12/hr of run time and they deny usage to other members and don't believe that is a cost to members - that is your call as Chair. Just let the other members that can't get in to use it that it is just the way it is. [12/9/2017 9:03 PM] merissa4308 Should I stop asking if this rule has ever been implemented? [12/9/2017 9:08 PM] davidkessinger9707 t hasn't that I know of. I believe some people that were becoming problems were talked to and it resolved. But the rule was clearly put there because there was a problem at some point. If people don't want to be reasonable then this is an option. Usage rules may be an issue that Laser committee wants address at their next meeting if it is becoming a problem. Reading this thread it appears it may be becoming so. [12/9/2017 9:11 PM] merissa4308 Thank you for your thoughts [12/9/2017 9:36 PM] davidkessinger9707 If the rule hasn't been used (it hasn't that I know of) that doesn't prevent it from being implemented/used, the threat of it may be the deterrent that made it so it wasn't used. If it is now a problem, there is a rule empowering chairs with a way to deal with it. If you see me, Kris or any BoD member please speak to them also. I sincerely believe the BoD will support you, but at least for me personally, I prefer that chairs try to resolve it at their level, if it is then BoD action can be requested to support the Chairs. Having been a Chair, I preferred that the BoD have as light a touch as possible to permit maximum freedom. Only if I hear a lot of member complaints brought to me or other BoD members will it become a BoD issue. If you need support in formulating a policy I'm sure you committee and if requested, BoD members will attend if available to help. [12/9/2017 9:41 PM] merissa4308 Guess I need to go back to my original comment. People make things for sale throughout the space -- laser, woodshop, 3d fab, etc. If it's done in an a manner that is courteous to other members, it's not a problem. [12/9/2017 9:42 PM] merissa4308 I don't think its feasible to correctly track why members are making things (personal or "commercial"/"production" jobs), so then it'd be limiting time used [12/9/2017 9:43 PM] merissa4308 Which I've stated I'm not for, but if a future chair wants to pursue that I'd understand why 😃 [12/9/2017 9:43 PM] merissa4308 I just don't want to create rules that we don't have a feasible way to implement [12/9/2017 9:46 PM] merissa4308 @stephenie what was the good laser news? [12/9/2017 9:46 PM] stephenie. Oh, goody! Hold on... [12/9/2017 9:47 PM] davidkessinger9707 I agree. People make things here for sale. I don't have a problem with that as long as their usage doesn't become excessive to the point that members are complaining. It's at that point it becomes a problem. Idon't think we are in disagreement. I only mentioned it because it is a tool that can be used by Chairs, many are not aware of it. {Reactions} 👍 [12/9/2017 9:51 PM] talkers Ah, It was added last year. Laser already charges per use. [12/9/2017 9:51 PM] stephenie. It was a good afternoon in Laser today. Hobbyists making gifts. Queue moved. Everyone cheery, chatty and wanting to share their creations. I came in around noon(?), left around 3, came back because I forgot to pay (!!!!!!) and had to set things right, stayed until 6p-ish. So I had a good perspective on the day. Three people needed real help or they would have walked away unsuccessful and frustrated. They either had little experience on Inkscape/AI/RDWorks or the rotary. It was so nice to be there to lift them over whatever hump was in their way. You should have seen their faces. Relief co-mingled with success. Good day! Many happy users all around. So this got me thinking… {Reactions} 😍 [12/9/2017 9:52 PM] stephenie. ...the new lasers may make “office hours” possible. Set aside a regular night (monthly, every other week, weekly – depending on volunteer availability), reserve one of the Thunders for a couple of hours during prime time, and staff it with an experienced Laser user(s). Advertise it as “Office Hours” for anyone stuck or “not stuck, but nervous” about using the machines. No big jobs allowed on that laser, though we could advise on the software side and those users could get in the queue for the open lasers. If there’s a low period where no one needs help, we could let anyone with a short job jump on the reserved Laser. {Reactions} 👏 [12/9/2017 9:52 PM] merissa4308 yes, not an expense to DMS unless we want to consider "commercial usage" at a different cost per minute. But I don't think we can successfully do that [12/9/2017 9:55 PM] merissa4308 I like the idea Stephenie! The way I see it there is a huge need for more classes on design software (Inkscape, Adobe, etc) as that 's the big hurdle most people new to the lasers need to cross. [12/9/2017 9:55 PM] merissa4308 But help on the lasers themselves would be great also. I do hear a lot that people have taken basics, but just want someone there to help guide them the first time or two they run a job [12/9/2017 9:56 PM] stephenie. I should add that @pinewoodnut has been stopping in at night to help users. This would be more official and consistent. [12/9/2017 9:57 PM] merissa4308 What I'd like to see is Laser Basics get finished on the DMS Learn site, then there could be hands on training nights like you're thinking to help folks who aren't quite comfortable enough on their own [12/9/2017 9:58 PM] stephenie. Who is working on the Learn class? [12/9/2017 9:59 PM] merissa4308 another member who isn't involved in the committee anymore started the framework for it. I've tried to get going on it but I don't really understand the format of creating content [12/9/2017 9:59 PM] merissa4308 @AGr mentioned he could work on it [12/9/2017 10:02 PM] davidkessinger9707 Get with Nancee @designcat. She's really helpful, knowledgeable, and great resource. She's helping Machine Shop [12/9/2017 10:04 PM] merissa4308 If anyone else wants to help we can make that happen. Previous chair Patrick made videos of the laser basics class with the intent of them being used for the online class. They should still be on the committee drive [12/9/2017 10:04 PM] stephenie. While waiting for the online class, we could start out easy with once a month "Office Hours", first or second week of the month. I'd be willing to staff it once a month. Wait until the new year turns over. [12/9/2017 10:05 PM] merissa4308 That sounds good, but let's see how usage goes once all the lasers are up and running [12/9/2017 10:08 PM] stephenie. Sure. [12/10/2017 1:33 AM] agr0090 "Do or do not, there is no try". There is no could work on it, either online laser basics is already complete by someone or no one is working on it. [12/10/2017 4:52 PM] talkers Nancee and Tommy have done some work on the moodle class. They restructured it. We talked about it last week, or the week before. [12/10/2017 4:53 PM] talkers If you ask on talk, you can probably get more video. A couple dozen folks have videoed me. [12/10/2017 4:54 PM] talkers Re hands on classes. That one of the main goals of my box and tumbler classes. Walking thru all the steps, and giving people some time to try it. [12/10/2017 4:56 PM] talkers Lots of folks take the class and are still intimidated. So "office hours" would be great. I help a lot of folks. It's great to see @stephenie and @pinewoodnut doing even more. @pearce continues to help too. [12/10/2017 4:57 PM] talkers With office hours, people know they can come with their questions and problems [12/10/2017 4:58 PM] talkers I'll work on some more project classes too. I have one planned for the Zing. Etching pens, dual layer plastic, and gift tags. {Reactions} 👍 [12/10/2017 5:35 PM] pinewoodnut I'm thinking of doing a class about making jigs. I see a lot of people doing repetitive tasks that a could help with. Whether it's one off or a batch of things, they just save time and take very little effort to make {Reactions} 👍 [12/10/2017 5:40 PM] pinewoodnut I'd be happy to help with the office hour concept once we have the new Novas online {Reactions} 👍 [12/10/2017 5:44 PM] talkers Jigs are a good idea. Troy mentioned making one for the rotary, for folks with multiple jobs. [12/11/2017 1:19 AM] stansimmons2031 12/10/2017 09:00 PM Trailer arrived at terminal in GRAND PRAIRIE, TX 😃 [12/11/2017 4:33 AM] stansimmons2031 12/11/2017 01:31 AM Trailer unloaded at terminal in GRAND PRAIRIE, TX [12/11/2017 7:03 AM] talkers 1:30am would have been a good time for delivery, lol [12/11/2017 9:29 AM] stansimmons2031 12/11/2017 09:13 AM Shipment out for delivery [12/11/2017 9:30 AM] talkers Might be going to put on pants [12/11/2017 9:30 AM] talkers Might be time* [12/11/2017 9:44 AM] clone1018 @StanSimmons there's a delivery [12/11/2017 9:44 AM] clone1018 doesnt look like anything we ordered lol [12/11/2017 9:45 AM] talkers Lol [12/11/2017 9:45 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389804854555705344/image.png?ex=67b9484f&is=67b7f6cf&hm=6290184818830d0a5d1ef9906a66b7d7cf155bb4bc0125f3fa87e7e921e83d5b& [12/11/2017 9:45 AM] talkers Flat packed lasers? [12/11/2017 9:46 AM] clone1018 Are they completely disassembled lol ? [12/11/2017 9:46 AM] clone1018 whew [12/11/2017 9:47 AM] merissa4308 Hah dont think those are ours [12/11/2017 9:56 AM] clone1018 Apparently it's cash on demand wood [12/11/2017 1:00 PM] agr0090 Lots of deliveries today, I'm guessing thats the auto toolboxes in auto right now? [12/11/2017 1:07 PM] agr0090 4x6 or smaller sections of cardboard could be placed on laser scrap shelf (bottom shelf of laser white cutting mat table next to rollup door) [12/11/2017 1:19 PM] stephenie. @merissa I won't be there for delivery or set up. Nick's 16th birthday! [12/11/2017 1:21 PM] merissa4308 Oh how fun! 16 is exciting! Hope yall have lots of fun celebrating! [12/11/2017 1:55 PM] pinewoodnut The lasers have landed {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389867833263128586/JPEG_20171211_135517.jpg?ex=67b8da36&is=67b788b6&hm=aa25863cf761452c003e491ca5dba341b61ff97b482bad9d29eb21c1269da9bf& [12/11/2017 1:56 PM] merissa4308 And uncrated. I hope someone is taking pictures!!! [12/11/2017 1:56 PM] merissa4308 Can they stay somewhere out of the way until this evening? Need to stay at work a couple more hours [12/11/2017 1:57 PM] merissa4308 Please keep the pallets too! [12/11/2017 1:59 PM] stansimmons2031 Yep, keeping pallets. {Reactions} 👍 [12/11/2017 2:11 PM] agr0090 nice, looks like floor plan will work? [12/11/2017 2:15 PM] pinewoodnut They are pushed into place [12/11/2017 2:16 PM] stansimmons2031 We can pull pics and vid from security [12/11/2017 2:16 PM] pinewoodnut {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389873175124639745/JPEG_20171211_141545.jpg?ex=67b8df30&is=67b78db0&hm=090f92f25b7a1c16b044e27c4428e2e1dc280a439a1de0c087b1fab86d82e9e6& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389873175690739712/JPEG_20171211_141612.jpg?ex=67b8df30&is=67b78db0&hm=8c5c8c370c3873609244adc135bd63b34f6bfec19517ea940e9df9432bc71b39& [12/11/2017 2:18 PM] merissa4308 😍 [12/11/2017 2:29 PM] pinewoodnut I put signs saying we are working on final setup.... No date/time was given {Reactions} sloth [12/11/2017 2:42 PM] agr0090 We have a few gallons of water for chillers at home (required to power up and start testing mirror alignment), otherwise everything should be there to hook them up. [12/11/2017 2:43 PM] canibalcrab Are we using the compressors that came with them or shop air? [12/11/2017 2:44 PM] canibalcrab If shop air, do we have the 120v triggers? [12/11/2017 2:46 PM] canibalcrab We should be using the thunders control board to turn on the compressed air and blower. I still see too many people forgetting to use the switch. [12/11/2017 2:49 PM] merissa4308 Hoping that control works properly on these new ones. We tried to get the blower on the big thunder back to being controlled by the control board... It would turn the blower on but then it would fail to shut it off after [12/11/2017 2:49 PM] merissa4308 Testing the new ones will help troubleshoot the issue on the existing one [12/11/2017 2:50 PM] merissa4308 Preference would be no switches, all auto [12/11/2017 2:56 PM] pinewoodnut There is some water up here, but bring more. For now, I'm just unwrapping everything and staging stuff {Reactions} 👏 [12/11/2017 2:56 PM] merissa4308 Sounds great, thank you David! [12/11/2017 2:57 PM] merissa4308 I have a few gallons of distilled water [12/11/2017 2:58 PM] pinewoodnut I think there are about 2 gallons of distilled water here now [12/11/2017 3:12 PM] agr0090 208v air solenoids to control shop air for air assist are already there and plumbed in for new lasers, everything should be automatically controlled assuming tl timer board works as expected on new lasers [12/11/2017 3:17 PM] canibalcrab Awesome [12/11/2017 3:17 PM] canibalcrab Chillers take around 2 gals each [12/11/2017 3:18 PM] canibalcrab Have to make sure the chiller is full after you turn it on and fill the laser tubes with water as well. [12/11/2017 3:18 PM] canibalcrab I might not be able to make it until late tonight [12/11/2017 3:19 PM] merissa4308 👍 I have four gallons and some bleach if we want to add some to prevent potential algal growth [12/11/2017 3:20 PM] pinewoodnut Do we have any longer hoses for the chillers? The ones they sent are pretty short and I think the best place for the one by metal shop is by the co2 tank. [12/11/2017 3:21 PM] pinewoodnut Either way, we need a door stop so the metal shop for doesn't smack the laser [12/11/2017 3:29 PM] canibalcrab Chuck graf or @LukeStrickland should have the bits to drill into the ground to install a floor doorstop [12/11/2017 3:29 PM] clone1018 Yeah we have several masonry bits [12/11/2017 3:30 PM] clone1018 and leftover studs [12/11/2017 3:30 PM] agr0090 dont have any extra chiller tubing, can you see what size / kind it is? [12/11/2017 3:31 PM] agr0090 we could concrete anchor a 2x4 into the concrete, or we could stop by home depot and pick up one fo the 43 in stock door stops, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Satin-Chrome-Adjustable-Floor-Door-Stop-13559/203133718 {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Satin-Chrome-Adjustable-Floor-Door-Stop-13559/203133718 Everbilt Satin Chrome Adjustable Floor Door Stop-13559 - The Home Depot Visit The Home Depot to buy Everbilt Satin Chrome Adjustable Floor Doorstop 13559 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-8tlEZGyjntMNy0jUdXtIhhYxUS18zGWfuYz9tkYxOE/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/51781e31-931e-4573-bf34-ab9cff0d40bf/svn/everbilt-door-stops-13559-64_300.jpg [12/11/2017 3:32 PM] agr0090 Aisle 70, Bay 010 [12/11/2017 3:41 PM] pinewoodnut We need to sort out power too. The main power cable is a standard 3 prong {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389894481287184385/JPEG_20171211_154116.jpg?ex=67b8f308&is=67b7a188&hm=f4dbb3264be224bcc95588b730fadfbcee9a77b8168cab32318793c72541db5c& [12/11/2017 3:43 PM] agr0090 thats annoying, was expecting c13 like other [12/11/2017 3:43 PM] agr0090 there are extra 5-15p female in table, can just cut off c13 end of cable and put on the 5-15p [12/11/2017 4:44 PM] agr0090 Got some c14 to 5-15r adapters from altex, I'm assuming it won't draw 10 amps at 208v, adapters are 18awg [12/11/2017 5:04 PM] pinewoodnut I was wrong. There is only about a half gallon of distilled here. The other is spring water {Reactions} 👍 [12/11/2017 5:05 PM] talkers Check in Science [12/11/2017 5:06 PM] merissa4308 I should have enough that I'm bringing [12/11/2017 7:53 PM] merissa4308 First test cuts done {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389957951735070721/20171211_195307.jpg?ex=67b92e24&is=67b7dca4&hm=e525623a9cae685917b57cc6c0bc0ef56a893a1711851656e12e92e7ca0b8759& [12/11/2017 7:54 PM] merissa4308 On Blitzen... One nearest the back door. Checking switches on Donner [12/11/2017 7:54 PM] talkers Is that a matte finish on the blue? Looks sexy [12/11/2017 7:54 PM] merissa4308 Think it's the same as before, just clean!! [12/11/2017 7:55 PM] talkers Haha. What color do you want the vinyl? I'll cut it this week [12/11/2017 7:55 PM] merissa4308 These things are sparkly white inside [12/11/2017 7:55 PM] merissa4308 I already cut some [12/11/2017 7:55 PM] talkers Take pics! [12/11/2017 7:55 PM] talkers Excellent [12/11/2017 7:56 PM] merissa4308 Havent stuck in on yet, think this is where name will be placed though {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389958755540008963/20171211_195544.jpg?ex=67b92ee4&is=67b7dd64&hm=6e2b3f720733363a5687781ea05ee8b20ace118b4b6822284771f40229f2288c& [12/11/2017 7:57 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389958822615056384/20171211_195553.jpg?ex=67b92ef4&is=67b7dd74&hm=463ec1369052491a8171da2586c799ec3b0d00540e0c23a9aefcdac9c9310674& [12/11/2017 7:58 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/389959145895493642/20171211_191133.jpg?ex=67b92f41&is=67b7ddc1&hm=068c32e1981265c00c4c2d1d1d5dbbbd4e7c7c38c056628f8a2839b76aaecacd& [12/11/2017 7:59 PM] talkers Wonderful font {Reactions} 😃 [12/11/2017 9:16 PM] talkers How goes the phew phew?!! [12/11/2017 10:53 PM] merissa4308 Blitzen is rocking, Donner is having issues [12/11/2017 10:54 PM] talkers What kind of issues? @merissa [12/11/2017 10:59 PM] merissa4308 Wiring issues Brandon, Luke, and David are working on. Outside my realm of understanding to explain further [12/11/2017 11:40 PM] merissa4308 Anyone want to make us more focusing pucks? [12/11/2017 11:41 PM] talkers Sure [12/11/2017 11:42 PM] talkers I prob still have the design in my member folder [12/11/2017 11:42 PM] talkers What a wonderful reason to need more [12/11/2017 11:43 PM] merissa4308 Wiring issues were fixed, so all lasers are operational! Trying to figure out how to set default settings in rdworks for new computers. Seems set to mirror images [12/11/2017 11:44 PM] talkers X axis off [12/11/2017 11:44 PM] talkers Y axis on [12/11/2017 11:44 PM] talkers So much win! Thank you all [12/11/2017 11:49 PM] canibalcrab 6mm not 5.5 [12/12/2017 12:03 AM] talkers K [12/12/2017 12:03 AM] talkers Do we have the High Def lens and the long throw now? [12/12/2017 12:07 AM] merissa4308 Not yet [12/12/2017 12:08 AM] merissa4308 Mirroring thing fixed too. All good to go! [12/12/2017 12:08 AM] talkers K [12/12/2017 12:08 AM] talkers Yay [12/12/2017 12:08 AM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390022128663134208/20171211_235656.jpg?ex=67b969e9&is=67b81869&hm=4de82972ad0d1aae7d1b52197a0dc83a3487da66e0c5f4f32778be8f0fba6da3& [12/12/2017 12:09 AM] merissa4308 @stephenie or someone want to post on Talk? [12/12/2017 12:09 AM] merissa4308 Just need them on the tool status board [12/12/2017 12:10 AM] talkers You can pull the laser tracker off 😄 [12/12/2017 12:10 AM] talkers Great work everyone! [12/12/2017 12:10 AM] merissa4308 Oh haha! I forgot about that [12/12/2017 12:10 AM] talkers Or leave it and brag [12/12/2017 12:13 AM] talkers @merissa I'll post.. Who helped tonight? [12/12/2017 12:16 AM] merissa4308 David, Brandon, and Luke, and Stan received [12/12/2017 12:17 AM] merissa4308 (David Summers and Luke Olson) [12/12/2017 12:24 AM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390026015679840269/Screenshot_20171212-002345.png?ex=67b96d88&is=67b81c08&hm=a2834ecab60cf28101361175a86921ddaa430216c0632c8b4a45156e3bae02f9& [12/12/2017 12:40 AM] agr0090 Would be good to get feedback on if ventilation on each of lasers is good now, ie does it pull smoke out effectively [12/12/2017 12:56 AM] talkers Some air monitors would be ideal 😁 [12/12/2017 11:45 AM] .somecallmery Is Donner set up and running? [12/12/2017 12:10 PM] merissa4308 Yes! All lasers are ready for use 😀 Blowers start automatically on the new 35s, still have to use the switch on the big 63 [12/12/2017 12:27 PM] .somecallmery I think there are network issues then. I can't login to the Thunder computer and Donnor computer doesbt have RDworks on desktop or internet [12/12/2017 12:29 PM] merissa4308 Eek. Sorry, might be my fault. I downloaded RDWorks to the computer yesterday thinking that would make it available for all, but maybe that only made it available for my login. [12/12/2017 12:30 PM] merissa4308 Not sure why it wouldnt have internet/network connection though [12/12/2017 12:30 PM] merissa4308 @StanSimmons are you available to check out the computer and see what's up? [12/12/2017 12:34 PM] .somecallmery I'm getting by by copying to disk and moving to memory [12/12/2017 12:36 PM] merissa4308 Looking to replace that computer with the same as the new ones since it seems to be the most troublesome [12/12/2017 12:36 PM] .somecallmery It cuts good though. [12/12/2017 12:37 PM] merissa4308 Wohoo! [12/12/2017 1:12 PM] agr0090 An admin just needs to drag icon to public desktop on donner PC for icon to show up for everyone [12/12/2017 1:20 PM] agr0090 Users could launch Rd works without icon by navigating to it's program files location and finding exe [12/12/2017 3:34 PM] agr0090 Who could arrange getting electrician to install another light fixture in the corner of laser near red wall? [12/12/2017 3:35 PM] clone1018 Laser pays for it? [12/12/2017 3:35 PM] clone1018 We can call the people who did the LED replacement [12/12/2017 3:35 PM] clone1018 I'll call them for you if that's what you want, let me know. [12/12/2017 3:36 PM] agr0090 @merissa [12/12/2017 3:47 PM] merissa4308 Are we concerned that it's too dark for the Zing? [12/12/2017 3:53 PM] merissa4308 Fyi... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390259986837798924/Screenshot_2017-12-12-15-52-29.png?ex=67b8f5ef&is=67b7a46f&hm=ce920877329d535f09f1affa3ae76790bbac3927d499b2074de69a13c6b93e29& [12/12/2017 3:54 PM] merissa4308 Laser is connected internally to the computer right? [12/12/2017 3:54 PM] merissa4308 @AGr [12/12/2017 3:55 PM] merissa4308 Could things have gotten disconnected after our test runs last night? [12/12/2017 3:56 PM] agr0090 It's connected via USB (the dark grey cable going through floor conduit back around co2 cylinder then up into body), it looks unconnected because we unmounted usb b connector from face so that people cant unplug it. They should remove the ethernet [12/12/2017 3:57 PM] agr0090 rd works was already installed just without an icon on the desktop [12/12/2017 3:57 PM] merissa4308 I dont understand why it wouldnt be communicating with the pc [12/12/2017 3:57 PM] agr0090 Looking at cam its really dark in corner above zing [12/12/2017 3:59 PM] gbeauw Yeah, we need good lighting at the Zing. [12/12/2017 4:00 PM] merissa4308 I didnt have trouble operating it last night, but more light can't hurt [12/12/2017 4:02 PM] agr0090 DavidS knows about settings in rd works to tell it to connect over usb, I didn't look at how that is setup, they might have altered it by reinstalling rd works [12/12/2017 4:05 PM] canibalcrab Might not have installed the USB driver with the install? [12/12/2017 4:06 PM] agr0090 It was working, unknown what plugging network cable in did to either internal state of laser or what changes they made to rd works, an admin (@merissa or @pinewoodnut) will have to look at it [12/12/2017 4:07 PM] merissa4308 That's how we sent test jobs last night [12/12/2017 4:07 PM] merissa4308 Seems like the network issues today caused confusion on the laser connection [12/12/2017 4:09 PM] merissa4308 @LukeStrickland that would be great on lighting, can you let me know how much they quote? [12/12/2017 4:10 PM] clone1018 Any rush on the service? He said he's running about a week out at the moment [12/12/2017 4:10 PM] merissa4308 Nope, that'll be fine [12/12/2017 4:12 PM] clone1018 ok I'll get a quote for you {Reactions} 👍 [12/12/2017 4:12 PM] merissa4308 Can anyone respond to Troy on Talk regarding the usb connection that's in place on Donner? [12/12/2017 4:13 PM] merissa4308 Can just copy and paste AGr's comment above [12/12/2017 4:14 PM] canibalcrab I posted my own but can change [12/12/2017 4:16 PM] talkers To be clear, We want the Zing on the network so the other wheel chair accessible PCs can send jobs. [12/12/2017 4:26 PM] merissa4308 Will anyone be at the space tonight to take a look at things? [12/12/2017 4:26 PM] merissa4308 Spent a lot of time last night making sure the wiring was all correct on that one, so sad that there's an issue [12/12/2017 4:27 PM] agr0090 @pinewoodnut the desktop link to rd works needs to be copied to public desktop folder [12/12/2017 4:28 PM] agr0090 and we should unmount the ethernet jack from the panel to prevent people plugging things in [12/12/2017 4:30 PM] pinewoodnut I'll be at the space in a little while and check on things {Reactions} 👍 (2) [12/12/2017 4:31 PM] pinewoodnut I'll sort out the shortcut for rdworks. [12/12/2017 7:16 PM] talkers I'll be there tomorrow if anything is needed [12/12/2017 9:13 PM] pinewoodnut The computer from Donner wouldn't register the laser using USB past a single reboot. For now, I worked with Stan and we swapped out the PC for a new one he had. {Reactions} 👍 [12/12/2017 9:14 PM] pinewoodnut I got rdworks installed and tested it with a reboot and another user login. Everything went fine. Inkscape is installed, but we need to finish up the Illustrator install. [12/12/2017 9:14 PM] pinewoodnut Someone was using it went I left. 😁 {Reactions} 💪 [12/12/2017 9:20 PM] merissa4308 Sounds good. Thank you and Stan for working on it. We can see how that computer does and talk about keeping it or purchasing a new computer like the new ones we have [12/12/2017 10:38 PM] stephenie. @merissa what font was used for the vinyl cut names? [12/13/2017 8:41 AM] merissa4308 I'm not sure... I'll have to check the file next time I'm up there ( probably Saturday) {Reactions} 👍 [12/13/2017 12:46 PM] stephenie. @merissa I just saw that a Member Meeting is scheduled for tomorrow. Are you able to present on short notice? New business is re: classes and honorariums. Does Laser have a strong position on this issue? [12/13/2017 2:54 PM] merissa4308 Not sure yet if I can make it, will try. I have no comments/concerns on the honorarium topic. Anyone else have thoughts on this related to laser that need to be considered? [12/13/2017 2:56 PM] canibalcrab Not sure what laser specifically has to do with it [12/13/2017 2:57 PM] merissa4308 Me either, just checking though [12/13/2017 2:58 PM] merissa4308 If I can attend I'll give a brief update on new lasers [12/13/2017 2:58 PM] merissa4308 During committee reports [12/13/2017 2:59 PM] merissa4308 Regarding Donner issues, we're using the same usb cables on Donner as Blitzen. We can try a new one though [12/13/2017 3:01 PM] merissa4308 Now I'm wishing we had just replaced that computer from the start since that PC has always been problematic [12/13/2017 3:04 PM] agr0090 I'm assuming today meant the newly installed computer david/stan setup last night? [12/13/2017 3:04 PM] agr0090 There are supplied a/b usb cables in the black/yellow toolboxes on white table [12/13/2017 3:05 PM] agr0090 couldnt hurt to make all the computers in laser the same, would only cost 2,000 out of ~7,000 laser balance [12/13/2017 3:06 PM] merissa4308 Yes I think Jorge was saying trouble happening today [12/13/2017 3:07 PM] merissa4308 Anyone have objections to standardizing the laser PCs all to the small Dell form factors like the two at the wall mounted desk? [12/13/2017 3:13 PM] canibalcrab Best idea [12/13/2017 3:48 PM] agr0090 also interesting to note that with increased laser availability I would estimate should generate over $2,000 / month in usage fees [12/13/2017 3:52 PM] merissa4308 Which is great because if for some reason one laser ever breaks, we should have a reserve of funds to replace it [12/13/2017 3:54 PM] merissa4308 For now though more income can help buy more lenses and rotaries {Reactions} 👍 [12/13/2017 4:39 PM] stephenie. Updated signs on bulletin board today. Posted new class schedule. Added a separate sign for the filepath to the virus-free RDWorks file on committee drive, plus words of encouragement to keep the queue moving by not designing on Laser computers. @john a gorman pointed out that Illustrator is available on computers in Digital Frontier and Creative Arts, so version 2.0 of that sign will include that info. [12/13/2017 4:50 PM] talkers Standard PCs make maintenance much much easier [12/13/2017 4:52 PM] talkers Merissa does not need to be present for the membership meeting, but should submit a report. Attending the meeting though would be good. @merissa did well pushing for the new machines and organising the space [12/13/2017 4:54 PM] merissa4308 I'd like to be there to get any feedback members might have, so going to try to make it {Reactions} 👍 [12/13/2017 5:40 PM] pinewoodnut I'm not seeing any issues with Donner at this point, but moving to a single standard PC would be great. Do we replace the PC for Thunder too? [12/13/2017 5:42 PM] pinewoodnut BTW,I thought we were keeping the 63 named thunder and zing named zing. The wiki is calling them Comet and Rudolph. Thoughts? [12/13/2017 5:44 PM] stephenie. We had said Rudolph for the Zing during maintenance. Were we not serious about that? And I was proposing Comet, but that didn't get to Merissa in time. Let me go fix the wiki... [12/13/2017 5:45 PM] pinewoodnut BTW, watching the camera today I never saw less than 2 Novas in use. Most of the time it was 3. For I while I saw all 3 AND Zing in use. 😁 [12/13/2017 5:45 PM] stephenie. ditto. I was there when all was in use. [12/13/2017 5:45 PM] pinewoodnut We do need someone to install Illustrator on the new PC for Donner [12/13/2017 5:48 PM] stephenie. Removed the one instance of Comet in wiki. Do I remove Rudolph, too? [12/13/2017 5:49 PM] pinewoodnut I edited the wiki earlier to show all the Nova with 130 watt tubes. I had a few questions about them being 100 watt......that was my mistake a few weeks ago [12/13/2017 5:49 PM] canibalcrab Let's not rename the original 2 [12/13/2017 5:49 PM] canibalcrab They are all 130w [12/13/2017 5:50 PM] pinewoodnut So Rudolph goes back to Zing [12/13/2017 5:56 PM] talkers I like giving the Nova 63 another name. Because we now have 3 Thunders. Comet works with the theme the team chose. Plus Comet is the baddest of all the crew. [12/13/2017 6:05 PM] clone1018 All the lasers are being used right now! [12/13/2017 6:05 PM] clone1018 Woo [12/13/2017 6:05 PM] pinewoodnut I thought the theme was thunder and lightning, not reindeer. As for the best reindeer, I'm not even getting into that debate. [12/13/2017 6:07 PM] talkers Lol [12/13/2017 6:33 PM] stephenie. @pinewoodnut Thanks for bumping up the Talk request to update Tool Status Board. [12/13/2017 6:35 PM] stephenie. Lisa's been quiet online lately, so I tagged Chris Marlow, too. [12/13/2017 6:35 PM] merissa4308 I labeled the big thunder "Thunder" just like the names on the new ones [12/13/2017 6:36 PM] merissa4308 Since "zing" is really big right on the front of that one I didnt think it needed anything else [12/13/2017 6:36 PM] stephenie. Loved that font! [12/13/2017 6:36 PM] merissa4308 Yay! I played around with a few before picking that one [12/13/2017 6:37 PM] stephenie. I admit to spending hours I will never get back in chase of the right font. [12/13/2017 6:37 PM] merissa4308 Me too... Way too indecisive [12/13/2017 6:48 PM] pinewoodnut Can we pick a date for the next laser committee meeting? [12/13/2017 6:49 PM] talkers Maybe we can meet at the maintenance day? [12/13/2017 6:49 PM] merissa4308 Just what I was going to say [12/13/2017 6:49 PM] merissa4308 I'll get it on the calendar tonight [12/13/2017 6:49 PM] talkers I get lost in fonts [12/13/2017 6:49 PM] merissa4308 Finishing up at work [12/13/2017 6:53 PM] agr0090 @LukeStrickland was someone doing something very dusty in main workshop 30 minutes ago? (6:15) [12/13/2017 6:54 PM] clone1018 i wasnt there, was looking at cams [12/13/2017 6:54 PM] clone1018 I'll be there in 15ish [12/13/2017 6:56 PM] agr0090 blower/lasers have been going constantly with no increase in particulate, then it spiked to abnormally high levels [12/13/2017 6:56 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/390668458192404484/image.png?ex=67b920da&is=67b7cf5a&hm=93a5d64b17d91b4cd3ac2c119aa03dd8739cb67dadcd1b81e460eeea80c8b1fc& [12/13/2017 7:14 PM] clone1018 I'm gonna say yes [12/13/2017 7:14 PM] clone1018 Based on the smell [12/13/2017 7:17 PM] canibalcrab laser smell or what? [12/13/2017 7:42 PM] merissa4308 Can someone respond to Jorge on Talk that he can pay the next time he's at the space (and thank him for fessing up). We dont support paypal because the funds no longer make their way to the committee [12/13/2017 7:59 PM] stephenie. Done. [12/13/2017 8:01 PM] stephenie. From Jorge : "Ok thanks. I feel like such a tool. I’m teaching Friday night so I’ll pay then. Thank you team laser!" {Reactions} 👍 [12/13/2017 8:02 PM] merissa4308 Thank you!! [12/13/2017 8:16 PM] talkers We need to get a link to Square on the wiki [12/13/2017 8:26 PM] stephenie. I thought we couldn't take remote/off-site payments? [12/13/2017 8:27 PM] talkers We prefer immediate payments. But will settle for getting paid. [12/13/2017 8:27 PM] talkers PayPal goes into one big bucket. It's not broken out by dept [12/13/2017 8:28 PM] talkers Square is supposedly set to by committee and item [12/13/2017 8:28 PM] talkers We should be able to up how much was paid for the Thunder vs zing for example [12/13/2017 8:29 PM] talkers And even see how much was paid per day/week/month [12/13/2017 8:29 PM] stephenie. That would give us another usage metric. [12/13/2017 8:30 PM] stephenie. How do we get that data? [12/13/2017 8:56 PM] agr0090 Robert runs our square account [12/13/2017 8:57 PM] talkers Yes. That should be opened up more. But even finance has much access to it [12/13/2017 9:03 PM] stephenie. @merissa, if you are not interested in digging into data and want to give me the OK, I'll approach Robert and/or finance for access. [12/13/2017 9:04 PM] merissa4308 What is planned to use the data for? [12/13/2017 9:07 PM] merissa4308 Brandon has been brainstorming a better laser firing time tracker [12/13/2017 9:07 PM] stephenie. Knowledge. How often machines are used, demand patterns. [12/13/2017 9:08 PM] stephenie. That works, too. [12/13/2017 9:08 PM] merissa4308 What came of the log in info from infra? [12/13/2017 9:08 PM] canibalcrab we had one on the saur that measured high voltage time [12/13/2017 9:08 PM] stephenie. Nothing from Stan yet. [12/13/2017 9:09 PM] stephenie. I've not been up to the Space for any significant time recently. Busy season. [12/13/2017 9:09 PM] canibalcrab and i think rdworks may log time. i do know it knows the difference between laser time and total time [12/13/2017 9:16 PM] pinewoodnut Just leaving now. I've heard and seen members having issues with Thunder today. They run a job fine and then it won't run the next job. Loses the connection to the laser until you reboot the PC. I couldn't find anything specific, but a reboot worked. It will work fine for quite a while, then need to reboot between jobs. Then it starts working fine again. [12/13/2017 9:17 PM] merissa4308 On the 63? [12/13/2017 9:22 PM] stephenie. See how confusing it is to call it Thunder? [12/13/2017 9:22 PM] stephenie. The Talk thread is reporting the issue on Donner. [12/13/2017 9:25 PM] clone1018 e-z, change the name to "The OG" {Reactions} 😄 [12/13/2017 9:26 PM] canibalcrab its really not complicated [12/13/2017 9:42 PM] agr0090 Did anything show up in windows event viewer? I will try to repro it this weekend [12/13/2017 9:50 PM] merissa4308 Laser maintenance and committee meeting scheduled for Sunday 1/7 from 11 to 2 [12/13/2017 9:51 PM] merissa4308 Will be looking for committee chair nominees 😃 [12/13/2017 10:04 PM] pinewoodnut The issue yesterday with Donner is fixed. I'll update that thread on Talk [12/13/2017 10:06 PM] pinewoodnut The issue I'm talking about tonight is with Thunder AKA Nova 63 AKA "The OG" {Reactions} 😆 [12/13/2017 10:07 PM] merissa4308 What you describe on Thunder sounds like what Jorge reported on Donner today too, so that's why I wanted to make sure [12/13/2017 10:09 PM] merissa4308 Nothing has really changed about Thunder... wasn't unplugged/moved/anything. The cable got housed in a cord cover, but otherwise it's all the same [12/13/2017 10:10 PM] pinewoodnut I didn't realize that Donner had that issue today.... Just read the thread [12/13/2017 10:11 PM] merissa4308 weird that the lasers with the older computers are having issues [12/13/2017 10:11 PM] pinewoodnut Yes, it seems like the same issue [12/13/2017 10:12 PM] merissa4308 and I don't think anyone has reported that issue on Thunder before... so timing is weird [12/13/2017 10:14 PM] pinewoodnut We can always switch to network instead of USB, but I know we haven't wanted to do that in the past. [12/13/2017 10:15 PM] pinewoodnut I'm guessing it's to keep members from using rdworks from their personal machines [12/13/2017 10:20 PM] merissa4308 yeah don't want someone to be able to start a job like from the common room or something [12/13/2017 10:22 PM] pinewoodnut I understand [12/13/2017 10:32 PM] stephenie. Were OG Thunder's belts worked on during install? Pearce had mentioned on Talk that was the plan. [12/13/2017 10:36 PM] talkers The zing requires physical presence at the machine to start a job. So folks can send jobs all day long, but they have to be selected at the machine to go [12/13/2017 10:37 PM] talkers The Thunders do have some safe guards, like you cannot start a job, or even load a job, if one is in progress. I do not know what other protections are in place. [12/14/2017 12:26 AM] pinewoodnut To my knowledge, the belts have not been replaced yet. We talked about waiting until Donner and Blitzen were online. To me it really doesn't seem like a big issue unless you are trying to cut or make shallow cut lines at high speeds. Slowing down to something less than 300mm/sec works for me. [12/14/2017 12:34 AM] canibalcrab yeah its not getting done until they get fully online. just slow it down [12/14/2017 12:44 AM] merissa4308 Good thing to get done in January [12/14/2017 12:50 AM] talkers It would be good to compare and chart the speeds and results now for each machine as benchmarks. We can then judge degradation on the machines over time. [12/14/2017 9:52 AM] themitch22 I want to thank the laser volunteers for getting the two new Thunderlasers, I know it was a lot of work getting everything setup. {Reactions} 👍 [12/14/2017 9:53 AM] themitch22 Any idea on the maintenance we need to do on the original Thunderlaser? Does the rotary attachment work now? [12/14/2017 11:37 AM] merissa4308 Rotary is working and can be used on the 63 or 35s [12/14/2017 11:39 AM] merissa4308 The big thunder should be working well, we cleaned and aligned it just a week or two ago. Planning to replace belts after the holiday. [12/14/2017 1:01 PM] clone1018 @AGr did you update dallas.ms/air ? [12/14/2017 1:01 PM] clone1018 or was that someone else [12/14/2017 1:02 PM] agr0090 yes, moved some of the sensors around, surprised anyone knows that url [12/14/2017 1:02 PM] clone1018 I monitor it sometimes [12/14/2017 1:02 PM] clone1018 Did you remove the workshop / woodshop? [12/14/2017 1:03 PM] agr0090 yeah they werent working in previous spots, so took those down [12/14/2017 1:04 PM] clone1018 I'd like for them to still exist, how can I help get them back online? [12/14/2017 1:04 PM] clone1018 I've reset the one in machine shop a couple of times [12/14/2017 1:06 PM] clone1018 Honestly I loved the air quality sensors, wanted more of them and for the wifi to break less lol [12/14/2017 1:08 PM] agr0090 Workshop one was on but not responsive, hadn't logged anything in 5 months, its currently in cardboard box under white laser table, was going to troubleshoot it later and repurpose it to directly monitor laser firing time. Could order more pis and sensors and build new ones, all the info is linked to from the air page [12/14/2017 1:09 PM] agr0090 the pm sensor is well past its manufacturer rated lifetime [12/14/2017 1:09 PM] agr0090 isnt there a new software committee or something? Could try and get them to take up making new ones [12/14/2017 1:10 PM] clone1018 I'd rather just do it myself lol [12/14/2017 1:11 PM] clone1018 Wish rpi's were poe [12/14/2017 3:06 PM] stephenie. @Robert replied to the question of having a way to remotely pay for laser time using Square: "I have met with chairs in the past and overall the idea is people need to pay on site at the time of service. Not pay up front or pay after the fact." . I've asked him to join us on discord to revi [12/14/2017 3:07 PM] stephenie. I've asked him to join us on discord to revisit the issue since @merissa is not on Talk. [12/14/2017 3:10 PM] merissa4308 I've gotten data from Robert when needed, and I've found issues with the committee not getting all of its square payments for some reason. Robert is having the board/accountant try to correct it. [12/14/2017 3:11 PM] merissa4308 But going back to usage data, I think we should put monitors on the lasers to start gathering that [12/14/2017 3:11 PM] merissa4308 Brandon discussed a bit above about modifying the air sensors to use for this kind of purpose [12/14/2017 3:13 PM] stephenie. I'm talking about a different issue that John raised yesterday on discord: having a way to pay for laser time after someone (Jorge, for example) leaves the property. @john a gorman wanted a link to Square on the wiki as a backup. [12/14/2017 3:13 PM] stephenie. Sorry if that wasn't clear. [12/14/2017 3:14 PM] merissa4308 And I agree with Robert's comment. We want people paying onsite at the time of service. If they forget I have no problem with them paying the next time they're onsite as long as it doesn't become the norm [12/14/2017 3:15 PM] stephenie. Then I'll tell Robert we're OK and not to bother coming over to discord. [12/14/2017 3:17 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman See Merissa's response above. [12/14/2017 3:19 PM] stephenie. @merissa Would you like a post on Talk announcing the Maintenance Day + Committee Mtg? With encouragement to candidates for laser chair? I posted a sign today on the bulletin board. [12/14/2017 3:22 PM] merissa4308 Sure that'd be great 😀 [12/14/2017 3:48 PM] stephenie. Done. And I tagged Ken to remind him of his interest in the gig. {Reactions} 👍 [12/14/2017 4:52 PM] merissa4308 Every time I pull up the camera feed all three thunder lasers are in use! So awesome 😃 [12/14/2017 4:59 PM] talkers That is. I wonder if it is demand that was already there that we were not meeting, or if more people want to use it now because they have a better chance of using it. [12/14/2017 5:00 PM] canibalcrab It's December. Usage always went up for holiday gifts [12/14/2017 5:00 PM] talkers That too [12/14/2017 5:02 PM] merissa4308 Yes, and very glad they're finally here and available for people to make!! [12/14/2017 7:25 PM] talkers We need to update the sign in sheet. It needs to be bigger, longer, and let them specify if they need the 63. [12/14/2017 7:28 PM] canibalcrab we need the individual ones back [12/14/2017 7:29 PM] canibalcrab they could have an "estimated cut time" on them too [12/14/2017 7:30 PM] stephenie. Individual ones? [12/14/2017 7:30 PM] canibalcrab for each machine. at some point the zing and saur ones vanished [12/14/2017 7:30 PM] stephenie. Understood. [12/14/2017 7:31 PM] merissa4308 Those two basically got destroyed so I threw them away [12/14/2017 7:31 PM] merissa4308 How do you propose we make them bigger? What would we make them out of/where would we put them? [12/14/2017 7:32 PM] merissa4308 I can make more like what's on Thunder for each one [12/14/2017 7:33 PM] stephenie. Do we assume the RFID queue has a long lead time? [12/14/2017 7:33 PM] talkers I like one big one. Most won't care which thunder [12/14/2017 7:33 PM] agr0090 Or just have no queue and let people figure it out themselves {Reactions} 😬 [12/14/2017 7:34 PM] stephenie. Thunderdome? {Reactions} 😂 [12/14/2017 7:34 PM] stephenie. "Thunder"dome? [12/14/2017 7:34 PM] canibalcrab thumbderdome [12/14/2017 7:34 PM] merissa4308 It took eight months to make the storage kiosk when it already existed and just had to be recreated... [12/14/2017 7:34 PM] canibalcrab we can use an upside down basket for thumb wrestling cage matches [12/14/2017 7:34 PM] merissa4308 Hahahaa [12/14/2017 7:35 PM] stephenie. I ask because that determine how much we want to invest into a system. [12/14/2017 7:35 PM] stephenie. system being too strong a word, of course. [12/14/2017 7:36 PM] merissa4308 Paper versions require basically no investment:) [12/14/2017 7:36 PM] merissa4308 Pack of the plastic holders is like 15$ [12/14/2017 7:38 PM] agr0090 What have people been doing so for this week regarding ordering when more than 3 want to laser? [12/14/2017 7:38 PM] stephenie. What about a sign in board on the north wall by the zing? Make it really long. It's possible to get a sheet of melamine at Home Depot. Just spit balling here. There's not enough horizontal space on the plastic holder to write time and number and zing only or 63 only. [12/14/2017 7:39 PM] stephenie. Or mount in on the back door. Still just spit balling... [12/14/2017 7:40 PM] stephenie. One queue lets people move to the first free machine that meets their needs. [12/14/2017 7:40 PM] talkers There can be a lot of confusion knowing who is next [12/14/2017 7:40 PM] talkers One queue for the thunder is most efficient [12/14/2017 7:41 PM] stephenie. @AGr they wait for the first machine to open up. Kind of like at some stores where the express lines or self check out lines are fed by one queue and you wait for a register to open. [12/14/2017 7:42 PM] stephenie. See y'all at the member meeting... [12/14/2017 7:43 PM] talkers I just watched three people trying to figure out who was next and who to message [12/14/2017 11:15 PM] stephenie. A human-executed algorithm. [12/14/2017 11:21 PM] talkers Not a good algorithm [12/14/2017 11:25 PM] stephenie. I feel like everyone needs remedial Laser Basics, with a curriculum update to reflect the new normal. [12/14/2017 11:25 PM] stephenie. _sigh_ [12/14/2017 11:35 PM] canibalcrab ive said that for years [12/15/2017 2:56 AM] agr0090 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h1BwW6vKVFvlVCy_TNBgAMIuLue8INfZENk8ZPTN_3s/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h1BwW6vKVFvlVCy_TNBgAMIuLue8INfZENk8ZPTN_3s/edit?usp=sharing Laser wait list Laser wait list: A website that manages people waiting to use the lasers at DMS Let people easily add themselves to list, with no rfid or authentication, they just have to physically at DMS Anyone in world can view current state of laser wait list Only users accessing the site from inside DMS ca... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/VbbA1xtA9YMJxWwXA30KEGxC9xxipDNbMP_xbfG3Sek/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/DITJP5N3keitfrBIL08lWO5p5am_tV43JOt9HtZTUpJoxG_Hjc0rJsO4Eeo4IJ3xG0GrCQ%3Dw1200-h630-p [12/15/2017 2:56 AM] agr0090 Tried to describe a potential minimal viable system and use cases for a laser wait list system. Would only take a couple days to develop, but not sure it would be worth the effort. There are too many edge cases to implement a robust automated wait list solution. System doesn't work in cases of people not responding to wait list notification, someone showing up to empty laser and ignoring wait list, someone leaving laser and not checking wait list, someone getting notified and starting to use laser without removing self from wait list, not to mension user expectations being raised if they perceive it as a scheduling or reservation system [12/15/2017 3:02 AM] agr0090 A system that only works if every single laser user follows a multi step process, and becomes completely useless if one laser user forgets a step seems not very helpful. Cant send notification to person on wait list unless previous laser user remembers to check wait list when they are done, so wait listed person would wait forever unless they physically walk up to laser and see its now open [12/15/2017 3:06 AM] agr0090 If people standing there just need a way to say I was here first, we can just put up a take a number dispenser, and have a button that when pressed uses DMS intercom to say "Now serving next laser user" (since we assume they must be inside the building, message would not actually say the number, it would just be up to everyone with a number to run up to laser and see who had the lowest number, lowest goes next) [12/15/2017 1:24 PM] talkers No one on any of the lasers, lol [12/15/2017 2:03 PM] merissa4308 Questions... Why wouldnt we want rfid integration? [12/15/2017 2:04 PM] merissa4308 I'd love it if people couldnt enter the queue if their badge doesnt show they've completed laser basics [12/15/2017 2:04 PM] merissa4308 (or log into computers, but we're talking queue right now) [12/15/2017 2:05 PM] talkers I'm good with the idea of it. [12/15/2017 2:06 PM] stephenie. I thought it wasn't in dispute that we're getting an RFID queue. [12/15/2017 2:07 PM] merissa4308 It will when Bill/Stan make it happen [12/15/2017 2:07 PM] merissa4308 Brandon's talking his idea right now that he could develop and make asap [12/15/2017 2:08 PM] merissa4308 (People have stated they'd make us an electronic laser queue as long as I've been chair) [12/15/2017 2:10 PM] clone1018 Everyone at DMS is full of well-intended false promises 😃 {Reactions} 👍 [12/15/2017 2:12 PM] merissa4308 @AGr why no rfid? [12/15/2017 2:19 PM] agr0090 "a potential minimal viable system", rfid would significantly complicate development and take more than 2 days [12/15/2017 2:21 PM] agr0090 instead of a simple website with twilio that can be hosted anywhere, it would need to be hosted inside DMS and talk to other dms apis to read rfid data, and then it wouldn't be a simple kiosk, would require hardware level integration with usb reader to have a better experience than having key swipe just put keystrokes into a browser window [12/15/2017 2:21 PM] merissa4308 Ok. Maybe in a future version? [12/15/2017 2:21 PM] merissa4308 Or maybe not [12/15/2017 2:22 PM] merissa4308 Next thought... I don't think this needs to be publicly viewable [12/15/2017 2:22 PM] merissa4308 We have the cams for that [12/15/2017 2:22 PM] merissa4308 Just need something you see in the laser area [12/15/2017 2:26 PM] agr0090 My question was if its worth developing anything at all, given the fragility of such a system (requires person finishing a job to take action to function) and unknown demand going forward [12/15/2017 2:27 PM] canibalcrab Just lock the PC's to the laser basics people [12/15/2017 2:27 PM] canibalcrab Like the multicam user groups [12/15/2017 2:28 PM] merissa4308 Was that something infrastructure made happen? [12/15/2017 2:30 PM] talkers The only reason I want RFID is to help manage the queue. I don't see another reason for it [12/15/2017 2:30 PM] merissa4308 And Brandon I agree, so many things that could make an electronic queue fail because we know we cant expect all users to follow instructions [12/15/2017 2:31 PM] merissa4308 That's why I'm pretty ok with the written system now [12/15/2017 2:31 PM] merissa4308 John you dont think restricting laser usage to laser certified members is a good reason? [12/15/2017 2:33 PM] talkers I don't think it's a problem we should spend effort on [12/15/2017 2:34 PM] canibalcrab Not much effort in making the security groups [12/15/2017 2:42 PM] agr0090 not much effort creating the groups, significant effort managing group membership [12/15/2017 2:49 PM] shdragon If we're sticking with the written thing, could I at least put in a request for some more fine tipped pens to write our names and numbers down for the... good-handwriting-challenged like myself? [12/15/2017 3:01 PM] stephenie. There a box of fine tipped pens in the drawer. Don't put them all out at once. One should be out right now. [12/15/2017 3:43 PM] merissa4308 I'll try and make sure there are always some on hand too [12/15/2017 3:45 PM] merissa4308 I had them stuck with velcro to each list initially which seemed to keep them from disappearing, so maybe will try that again [12/15/2017 6:54 PM] techd84 what about doing something like the paper one we had but with strips of something that we can use dry-erase markers on and have magnets on the back, so when you walk up you grab a strip and add it to the bottom of the list. If some one finishes or bows out of the queue the list can be sifted. {Reactions} 👍 (2) [12/15/2017 6:56 PM] canibalcrab That's a much better method that erasing and rewriting like I do [12/15/2017 6:58 PM] stephenie. There are not enough thumbs up for that! [12/15/2017 6:58 PM] techd84 I have walked up to it befor and seen it be 4,5,3,1,2 we where alll wondering who was next [12/15/2017 7:00 PM] stephenie. Can we cut melamine on the laser? Get a small sheet from Home Depot, make strips, afix magnets...then stick it on what surface? [12/15/2017 7:03 PM] techd84 someone could bend a thin sheet of mettal and put it maybe somewhere near where the old plastic one is/was [12/15/2017 7:06 PM] canibalcrab They make magnet strips that you can dry erase [12/15/2017 7:06 PM] canibalcrab We use them at Polyprinter for a list similar to what you described [12/15/2017 7:07 PM] canibalcrab https://www.amazon.com/Erase-White-Magnetic-Strip-Magnet/dp/B003BCYWL2 {Reactions} 👏 [12/15/2017 7:10 PM] techd84 yep something like that [12/15/2017 7:13 PM] canibalcrab Cut to size. We could grab a plate of steel and plasma cut something up top and mount it to a wall [12/15/2017 7:14 PM] canibalcrab If we wanted to get fancy with it [12/15/2017 7:14 PM] canibalcrab I'm sure there's a plate in metal that Chuck would let laser have [12/15/2017 7:16 PM] canibalcrab I could back light it with LEDs too [12/15/2017 7:19 PM] stephenie. LEDs? Game over. [12/15/2017 7:24 PM] agr0090 Good idea, found a 2"x10' roll on amazon with one day shipping, will have it at DMS tomorrow [12/15/2017 7:29 PM] stephenie. 2" or 1"? 2 inches seems wide. [12/15/2017 7:34 PM] techd84 i wish there was a 1.5" [12/15/2017 7:47 PM] stephenie. Someone said there were 9 users in the queue at one point. If that's to be believed, board needs to be over 18" tall? [12/15/2017 9:49 PM] merissa4308 Amazing idea @Techd84! [12/15/2017 10:09 PM] andrew5152 SIARPC Lab Board {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391441632253313024/s1407-celebrity-board-list.png?ex=67b94ded&is=67b7fc6d&hm=67e3e926ff9c95075c38c7539cd623ef19e07f3f3f0d5847a884eba322c6c572& [12/15/2017 10:09 PM] andrew5152 Something like seems like a lovely idea... [12/15/2017 10:10 PM] stephenie. Where to put it? Move the small cabinet somewhere and use that spot? [12/15/2017 10:11 PM] merissa4308 Or might fit next to it and the tombstone [12/15/2017 10:12 PM] merissa4308 Will have to see how big it ends up being [12/15/2017 10:12 PM] canibalcrab could do it above the tombstone and use the stone as the base platform [12/16/2017 9:02 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391787176796356619/20171216_205358.jpg?ex=67b93e3e&is=67b7ecbe&hm=8c8f51e099b26a582b01ecc948d6fa992fd29ab2db1e0b54243035add7f05fe7& [12/16/2017 9:02 PM] merissa4308 New queue coming along. Magnet strips on the way [12/16/2017 9:06 PM] merissa4308 Also the font I used for the laser names is called Nulshock, downloaded from dafont.com [12/16/2017 9:26 PM] merissa4308 The blower on Thunder (Nova63) starts automatically now when you start a job :) [12/16/2017 9:27 PM] merissa4308 So the only laser requiring manually flipping the blower switch is the Zing [12/16/2017 10:12 PM] gbeauw What is the link to the cameras looking over the lasers? [12/16/2017 10:18 PM] andrew5152 https://dallasmakerspace.org/cgi-bin2/cam?cam=laser {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/cgi-bin2/cam?cam=laser https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/H6c0ihbzBoP_gfVBpUgxx2TAXWHo4VlYK9WbBsS-tKI/%3Fcam%3Dlaser/https/dallasmakerspace.org/cgi-bin2/cam [12/16/2017 10:18 PM] andrew5152 I like that queue board! [12/16/2017 10:19 PM] gbeauw Did we leave at least a foot between the Zing and the wall? It has to have a foot clearance to be able to access the right side for regular cleaning so you can get the controller and side cover off. [12/16/2017 10:19 PM] gbeauw Same for left side. [12/16/2017 10:21 PM] gbeauw Doesn't look like there is room. [12/16/2017 10:22 PM] gbeauw It can't be up against the wall. [12/16/2017 10:23 PM] gbeauw Need to move it to the left. Hope there is room. [12/16/2017 10:27 PM] gbeauw Thanks Spencer [12/16/2017 11:15 PM] talkers The zing needs to be swapped with the Thunder for access and teaching. {Reactions} dms [12/17/2017 12:37 AM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391841242423492618/IMG_20171217_003500.jpg?ex=67b97098&is=67b81f18&hm=d17eeae5f150481ec738de568543cc8f7e8dd4e29c53c4e86c30ea35a491ea08& [12/17/2017 12:37 AM] talkers Beautiful. Thank you @AGr [12/17/2017 12:55 AM] merissa4308 There is room on either side of the Zing, didn't see the message to measure when we were still at the space [12/17/2017 12:55 AM] merissa4308 due to the size of the Nova35 and the location of the blower, the Zing has to stay in its current location [12/17/2017 12:58 AM] merissa4308 I'd recommend that we unplug the zing and take it outside to clean all the dust out from the side panels when that's needed. Blowing it out into the laser area just moves the mess elsewhere and means people have to breathe it in... not good [12/17/2017 1:55 AM] agr0090 wow, delivery people working overtime, the dry erase magnetic strip roll was delivered at 12:31am {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/391861034639556610/image.png?ex=67b8da47&is=67b788c7&hm=203a056b142d914b82d429d6ad009787b2f000be62e89397be6429b92a227000& [12/17/2017 2:17 AM] talkers ? I didn't see it before I left, lol [12/17/2017 2:17 AM] talkers Crazy though [12/17/2017 7:34 AM] gbeauw Merrisa, Having to take the Zing outside to clean isn't very realistic. We can just use the vacuum plus air and that should avoid dust well enough. It seems to need cleaning frequently. The zing only needs to move to the left away from the wall. As along as there is room on the table to do and the exhaust hose is flexible enough to slide it, that it should be ok. [12/17/2017 12:39 PM] agr0090 Disconnect one hose clamp, power, Ethernet, interlock, air assist. Slide forward onto hydraulic lift table, cart it outside. Easier to move it than clean it in place [12/17/2017 1:07 PM] gbeauw AGr, I totally disagree because of all the steps you listed. Also, having to disconnect stuff, move it outside and then back inside and reconnect everything frequently is just asking for problems. I will continue to clean in place with air plus vacuum to catch the dust. Also, keep in mind that I'm not talking about cleaning out the grid box that way. The grid box comes out and can be emptyed and cleaned over a trash can. It is all of the other mechanizms such as the recently failed-due-to-dirty limit switches in the right side that need cleaning. However, since it doesn't have a compressed air nozzle blowing in the vicinity of the lens to help move soot into the suction of the air outlet, it seems that it gets dirty really fast and needs more frequent cleaning than the other lasers. Certainly the lens needs more frequent cleaning because of this. [12/17/2017 1:10 PM] stephenie. How often do you recommend this cleaning? @pinewoodnut has been advocating for a regular cleaning schedule. [12/17/2017 1:12 PM] gbeauw I'm not sure how often. It just seems to be really dirty when I use it. A regular cleaning schedule for all lazers sounds like a good idea. Maybe monthly? What do you think? [12/17/2017 1:14 PM] gbeauw This is kinda the same issue as dust collection in the Woodshop except that users are expected to empty the bins themselves. Cleaning lasers may require special training for the scheduled cleaning crew vs. just letting users do it (which I doubt they will do very often). [12/17/2017 1:17 PM] stephenie. @merissa has scheduled a January Maintenance Day and seems like everyone is on board with a monthly cleaning. But if Zing needs more frequent attention, that flag needs to be raised and an alternative schedule for it proposed. The guidelines clearly state only authorized maintenance folks have any business cleaning, repairing, maintain lasers. So no worries there. [12/17/2017 1:18 PM] stephenie. @merissa Any recommendations to updating this list: https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee#Authorized_Maintainers {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee Laser Committee [12/17/2017 1:18 PM] stephenie. I see Beau is not on it. I believe you've told me it's out of date. [12/17/2017 1:34 PM] gbeauw Yes, please include me in any Laser Maintenance discussions/groups. I've done a lot of the maintenance work on the Zing in the past including, belts, new laser, alignment, and so on. I haven't done any work on the others but I'm willing if needed. It's just that the Zing covers 95% of what I need to do with the Lasers so I tended to focus on it. [12/17/2017 1:36 PM] gbeauw As for Zing cleaning frequency, let's see how a monthly cleaning works out. I'll bet that a monthly cleaning will be sufficient but we can keep a close eye on it to make sure. [12/17/2017 1:36 PM] gbeauw What day/time in January so I can put it on my schedule? [12/17/2017 1:38 PM] merissa4308 Sunday, January 7th 11am-2pm [12/17/2017 1:46 PM] gbeauw OK. Marked on my schedule. See you then if not before. {Reactions} 👍 [12/17/2017 1:47 PM] merissa4308 We can scrap the old "maintainers"list and recreate at that meeting {Reactions} 👍 [12/17/2017 3:20 PM] canibalcrab @gbeauw I suggest seeing the zing in person. It's much farther away from the wall than it looks. And it has plenty of room to move around on the table. I cleaned the side you are worried about without moving it from it's current position [12/17/2017 3:49 PM] gbeauw Great. It is hard to tell from the camera. Thanks, Pearce. I've been tied up with teaching a Morse Code class but that is over now. I should be able to come out soon to say "hello" to it in person. [12/17/2017 4:26 PM] merissa4308 Just realized I forgot to count the cash box yesterday, and I dont think I can get back up there today. Finance wanted all boxes counted by Monday 😕 [12/17/2017 4:29 PM] stephenie. @merissa How long does a count take typically? I live 15m away and have a flexible schedule. Can definitely find a 2nd person for oversee the count. [12/17/2017 4:32 PM] merissa4308 About half an hour, there are forms/slips/bags near the finance drop box. And Jayson Woods has been great helping me the past couple times [12/17/2017 4:32 PM] merissa4308 He knows the process and what to look for. I can send him a message asking if he'll be around tonight [12/17/2017 4:33 PM] stephenie. Are there keys needed to get into the box? [12/17/2017 4:33 PM] canibalcrab There's drills {Reactions} 😝 (2) [12/17/2017 4:33 PM] merissa4308 Yes, infrastructure would have to get you access to the keys [12/17/2017 4:34 PM] stephenie. aka @StanSimmons ? [12/17/2017 4:34 PM] merissa4308 Yes 😀 [12/17/2017 4:34 PM] stephenie. Send Jayson a message. [12/17/2017 4:37 PM] stephenie. I am experienced counting large sums of cash from scout, ptsa, church fundraisers. Up to $2K. I've a got a counting sheet, having done it often enough. [12/17/2017 4:39 PM] merissa4308 I'll let you know if he's available. Always best to have at least two people do it so can check each other's count [12/17/2017 4:47 PM] stephenie. I wouldn't dream of so much as opening that box without a 2nd person on hand. A third is even better. My reputation is at stake. And all counting will be out in the open. {Reactions} 👍 [12/17/2017 4:55 PM] merissa4308 Sounds like he's not available till tomorrow night [12/17/2017 5:21 PM] stephenie. Too bad. [12/17/2017 9:05 PM] stansimmons2031 I'm in Bryan/College Station tonight. I'll be back Monday evening. [12/17/2017 9:38 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Stan. Sounds like we might not make it for tomorrow [12/18/2017 12:17 AM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392198689164230666/IMG_20171218_001639.jpg?ex=67b96bfe&is=67b81a7e&hm=ea681b335579e125d778fa92b0a352e41f8a5730791c159462fd88ba40792ae6& [12/18/2017 12:17 AM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392198713583468554/IMG_20171218_001652.jpg?ex=67b96c04&is=67b81a84&hm=b52c07ee9086ef616d8df84c25d4a2fad2e9b13efc63184befb659b735fe56cd& [12/18/2017 12:19 AM] merissa4308 What are we looking at? [12/18/2017 12:20 AM] talkers Donner burned out a lens. Frankie was using it. It was cutting well. Then he noticed it was smoking. [12/18/2017 12:20 AM] talkers The compressor is running [12/18/2017 12:21 AM] talkers Frankie pointed out that the burn is off center. Maybe that was generating heat? [12/18/2017 12:21 AM] canibalcrab No it can be off center [12/18/2017 12:21 AM] talkers K [12/18/2017 12:22 AM] canibalcrab Can you leave it in the holder? [12/18/2017 12:22 AM] canibalcrab It could have been flipped over [12/18/2017 12:22 AM] canibalcrab It's not off center enough to have caused that [12/18/2017 12:23 AM] talkers Should I mark Donner as down so you can look at it tomorrow? We have extra lens, right? If so, I can switch it out [12/18/2017 12:23 AM] canibalcrab It either had stuff on the lense that blocked the laser or wasn't tight enough and slipped down onto the stuff being cut and didn't let the air escape the nozzle [12/18/2017 12:24 AM] canibalcrab It's possible the single tap can't pump out enough air to run 4 lasers at once. [12/18/2017 12:24 AM] canibalcrab Either way we should contact thunder about it [12/18/2017 12:25 AM] merissa4308 Please mark it as down for now [12/18/2017 12:27 AM] talkers Pearce, do you want to contact Thunder? tech@deleted-role.com [12/18/2017 12:28 AM] canibalcrab I don't know what happened with it or what was done for setup on it, I don't know that I will help much with that [12/18/2017 12:34 AM] talkers Frankie says the lens tube didn't move. For thing he checked was the focus. [12/18/2017 12:36 AM] talkers He says it was warm, but not really hot when he checked it. He was doing 2min runs, so not really an extended job. [12/18/2017 12:45 AM] canibalcrab I mean the lens could have slipped on another job, gathered soot, and burned up on him from unfortunate timing [12/18/2017 12:51 AM] canibalcrab I'm suggesting contacting them because this close to installation it could have been a manufacturer defect [12/18/2017 1:13 AM] agr0090 to test that air assist solenoid is opening, can lower bed completely, fire short job with lens off and the air assist line off in back (push in white collar on fitting and pull blue tube out, to reconnect just push it in) , will be able to hear that its triggering air assist solenoid or not [12/18/2017 1:14 AM] talkers I have already left. I'll check tomorrow if someone else has not [12/18/2017 1:20 AM] agr0090 My guess is the plug going in to laser to power air assist vibrated out. (I noticed those plugs were not very tight the other day, and one was almost touching ducting which vibrates). Could wrap electrical tape around outside of c14 plug (to expand diameter) for exhaust fan and air assist and jam them back in so they cant fall out. There is electrical tape in cardboard box on top shelf of laser cutting mat table. [12/18/2017 1:25 AM] agr0090 To double check that machine is attempting to turn on air assist visually can look at the two relays on the right side of the machine, the green led means its turning on the relay. The top relay is air assist, the bottom is fan exhaust [12/18/2017 1:25 AM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392215720320303104/3V7TgEbOH8DK1nFZGxE0O-c9bBbVbrM1BP5TMkRIMbOb2iyKjQQ5nXAUy2FvXVnxL1j5XvprYIdxsAoEbWlg91tOeS1Sb5Gg40_X.png?ex=67b8d31a&is=67b7819a&hm=321dccbdf26871d376b29e451017dfdabb416340e4a3ca6e569a398feb18b983& [12/18/2017 1:25 AM] agr0090 Inside right door of laser, relays are under main contactor {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392215894383919114/6heXJwU8e4UGGqoAo60L1u6vTdhs4rCGt-KE7md1b56GOxE4xMNdgqzNdzSVHrqCQoOT82W8i1pCHmtEmjkjGEEDypZ0liqI9EsJ.png?ex=67b8d344&is=67b781c4&hm=e425d492f18be199766c492cc917225fb308880685aba283bb9b92d9c0b5ebe8& [12/18/2017 1:26 AM] agr0090 obviously dont touch anything when opening door while laser is plugged in [12/18/2017 1:46 AM] agr0090 Other thing to check when evaluating if its turning on air assist is what the effect of the If Blowing selection is in rd works. I haven't verified but it may be possible to disable air assist in the software (if that is possible, we may consider rewiring that relay so its not possible to control that from software) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392221165327745025/image.png?ex=67b8d82c&is=67b786ac&hm=6a843643120d642046bcc754c3977b2d5c49990074e8be229218eda714fe519f& [12/18/2017 1:25 PM] pseudonym01 Does the zing work with rd world? [12/18/2017 1:25 PM] pseudonym01 I have a bunch of smaller wood pieces I'd like to laser and the two larger ones feel like overkill but I'm not as familiar with the zing [12/18/2017 1:26 PM] canibalcrab no it uses its own software [12/18/2017 1:27 PM] canibalcrab just use the smaller nove 35 lasers, we got them so people could do smaller tasks [12/18/2017 1:30 PM] merissa4308 What Pearce said, but the zing is pretty easy to learn if you want to go that way. If you post about day/time you'll be there and need some help on it I bet someone will help walk you through it [12/18/2017 4:02 PM] pseudonym01 It's been a while since I've done anything with the lasers ... We got new ones? [12/18/2017 4:03 PM] merissa4308 Yes! They came in and we got them fired up last Monday. One is down with a broken lens right now though [12/18/2017 4:04 PM] merissa4308 So currently have the big Thunder Nova63, the smaller Thunder Nova35 we named "Blitzen", and the Zing available for use [12/18/2017 5:05 PM] pseudonym01 And that one works with RDWorks? [12/18/2017 5:06 PM] pseudonym01 Is there a manual got it on the wiki? Or do I need to take the class all over? [12/18/2017 5:07 PM] canibalcrab 3 use rd works [12/18/2017 5:10 PM] merissa4308 The new Thunder Nova35s use RDWorks and operate just like the existing Thunder [12/18/2017 5:10 PM] talkers They work the same as the large one [12/18/2017 5:10 PM] merissa4308 So if you've taken laser basics on that one then you're good to go [12/18/2017 5:11 PM] pseudonym01 Gotcha [12/18/2017 5:12 PM] pseudonym01 It's been a bit so i might put out the call for assistance on Talk [12/18/2017 5:12 PM] merissa4308 You'll see that the laser area looks a little different now. The big thunder is still in the same place. The Zing and one of the 35s are operated by two new computers on the back wall (one near the door operates the 35, one near the corner operates the Zing) [12/18/2017 5:42 PM] agr0090 Do we have extra lenses? I can look at Donner tonight if its still down [12/18/2017 5:43 PM] canibalcrab ill be up later as well, but i think we should keep it together for as long as possible to see what thunder says about it [12/18/2017 5:44 PM] canibalcrab this shouldnt have happened this fast [12/18/2017 5:44 PM] merissa4308 We do. @john a gorman didnt you say you have them locked in the classroom storage bin? We need to mount the key lockbox so all laser supplies are accessible to the committee [12/18/2017 5:44 PM] merissa4308 Agree Pearce, really disappointed :( [12/18/2017 5:45 PM] merissa4308 Took less than a week [12/18/2017 5:46 PM] merissa4308 @AGr can we mount the lockbox on the wall behind donner? [12/18/2017 5:47 PM] agr0090 where is the classroom storage bin? [12/18/2017 5:47 PM] merissa4308 Or maybe on the wall by the zing [12/18/2017 5:47 PM] merissa4308 One of the lockable personal storage bins I think [12/18/2017 5:48 PM] merissa4308 @AGr also what did we do with the extra metal scrap from the queue? [12/18/2017 5:49 PM] agr0090 yeah can mount lockbox and put keys in it [12/18/2017 5:49 PM] agr0090 There wasn't much, I think I put it on donation shelf [12/18/2017 5:49 PM] agr0090 was a ~6"x24" piece left over [12/18/2017 5:50 PM] merissa4308 Ok... Might pick up some more to finalize the sign a bit along with the magnet strips [12/18/2017 5:51 PM] merissa4308 @pearce do you know what time you'll be up? [12/18/2017 5:53 PM] canibalcrab 8 or 9 [12/18/2017 6:14 PM] merissa4308 Sounds good. Think Brandon will be there around the same time. I likely can't make it up tonight but if yall find anything we need to report to Thunder just let me know and I can handle that [12/18/2017 7:03 PM] pinewoodnut Should we check Blitzen to see if it has any impending issues? I'd like to head off anything else before it becomes an issue. [12/18/2017 7:05 PM] canibalcrab yeah ill look [12/18/2017 7:35 PM] talkers I was unable to log on to the PC by the zing [12/18/2017 7:35 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392490212095164427/IMG_20171218_190938.jpg?ex=67b929fe&is=67b7d87e&hm=4f895217fbee98a1bff1f53e16a813ffa9abfe52565a919feeceadfcc9c860a9& [12/18/2017 7:36 PM] talkers Something about not the right domain? [12/18/2017 7:36 PM] merissa4308 Is it just your login or everyone's? [12/18/2017 7:36 PM] talkers I do not know [12/18/2017 7:36 PM] merissa4308 Will need to get infrastructure on it [12/18/2017 7:36 PM] talkers I finished my class and had one to attend [12/18/2017 7:39 PM] merissa4308 Just posted in the infrastructure thread asking for help [12/18/2017 8:54 PM] stephenie. @StanSimmons should be back in town tonight, per his previous comment. [12/18/2017 9:23 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392517359673278464/JPEG_20171218_212335.jpg?ex=67b94347&is=67b7f1c7&hm=bc2e018bd971e374472a908c2c102ca926ec9042a966a3d2b81aff70c3cf2ba1& [12/18/2017 9:24 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392517429789589524/JPEG_20171218_212359.jpg?ex=67b94357&is=67b7f1d7&hm=da3f4a6fa85934d507c85b6cded08a6e04d324653a57a7cddbe16f72ddf0b5c5& {Reactions} 😬 [12/18/2017 9:40 PM] agr0090 Confirmed that If Blowing no it disables air assist [12/18/2017 9:41 PM] agr0090 I will rewire them to disable that feature [12/18/2017 9:44 PM] merissa4308 Was that the default setting and what was going on? [12/18/2017 9:45 PM] merissa4308 I still dont understand why that's even an option in the software 😑 [12/18/2017 10:12 PM] pinewoodnut There are some jobs that you MIGHT want to turn off air assist, but only if you REALLY know what you are doing. We should just prevent that as an option for our members. [12/18/2017 10:14 PM] merissa4308 Agreed [12/18/2017 10:15 PM] pinewoodnut We changed to the small diameter air nozzle and that should give higher flow and hopefully prevent further issues. I got a lot of stuff off the lense from Blitzer, but it's looking good now. [12/18/2017 10:17 PM] pinewoodnut @merissa can you get a quote from thunder for a full set of replacement lenses for all 3 types: standard/hr/4 inch [12/18/2017 10:17 PM] merissa4308 Think the air hadnt been going on that one either? [12/18/2017 10:18 PM] pinewoodnut It had the same large nozzle, but I swapped it too [12/18/2017 10:19 PM] pinewoodnut {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392531342635827200/20171218_194722.jpg?ex=67b9504c&is=67b7fecc&hm=589b42bceb86d159bf931a38a77c4cdf90dceca20797467b848bf93aa8e5ac8a& [12/18/2017 10:19 PM] pinewoodnut It was very dirty [12/18/2017 10:19 PM] pinewoodnut {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392531475482017793/20171218_192629.jpg?ex=67b9506c&is=67b7feec&hm=16cec0fa953e66fb725a5484684fa08e4467868bd527c3719cd182d5ec36f81f& [12/18/2017 10:19 PM] merissa4308 Eek [12/18/2017 10:20 PM] pinewoodnut But like I said, the lense looks good now and it has the small nozzle [12/18/2017 10:20 PM] merissa4308 Awesome, thank you [12/18/2017 10:21 PM] merissa4308 I will get info on the lenses [12/18/2017 10:21 PM] merissa4308 Is the Zing computer working for folks now? [12/18/2017 10:22 PM] pinewoodnut About the lenses. I talked with @@pearce and we would like a set of them from thunder. Then we can try to sort out generic. [12/18/2017 10:23 PM] pinewoodnut All the computers are having network issues. Something with Infrastructure, not the machines. Brandon logged in as local admin on the 2 new ones for now so people can work. [12/18/2017 10:24 PM] pinewoodnut Some people can login to Thunder, but no one seems to be able to get to Donner [12/18/2017 10:25 PM] pinewoodnut Headed home. I'll try to keep up on discord, but busy week ahead at work. Good luck to all. [12/18/2017 10:25 PM] merissa4308 Infrastructure did some kind of update this morning I think, guess it messed something up [12/18/2017 10:26 PM] merissa4308 Thank you David! [12/18/2017 10:52 PM] agr0090 Air assist relay now jumpered to fan relay, so both come on at same time, so an internal splitter instead of external splitter. Air assist stays on for same length of time as blower [12/18/2017 10:53 PM] merissa4308 Nice, no matter what setting in software says? [12/18/2017 10:59 PM] agr0090 Yeah, that setting won't do anything anymore {Reactions} 😃 [12/18/2017 11:18 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392546323620167680/IMG_20171218_231847.jpg?ex=67b95e40&is=67b80cc0&hm=22d2979587911a8f23d53b12902a300c479be8457e16e225bec7cdaf71345fdb& [12/18/2017 11:19 PM] agr0090 8 spare lenses, 20 spare mirrors, long and short focus tubes [12/18/2017 11:19 PM] merissa4308 they do exist! 😃 [12/18/2017 11:21 PM] merissa4308 will now be kept in lower locking part of laser tool cabinet [12/18/2017 11:22 PM] merissa4308 I'll share the lockbox code with laser maintainers at the January meeting [12/18/2017 11:30 PM] agr0090 Should I throw away old full spectrum lenses? [12/18/2017 11:32 PM] merissa4308 I'd say yes... @pearce see any need for them? [12/19/2017 12:03 AM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/392557469416685568/IMG_20171219_000303.jpg?ex=67b968a2&is=67b81722&hm=b6ca1e495288b1d808e6feb8da585b2675c5d3fa813d8594031ed3cd91fab56a& [12/19/2017 12:04 AM] canibalcrab They might be the same lenses. Let's keep until tested [12/19/2017 1:08 AM] agr0090 Observed the USB issue a couple times on both Nova 35s, quick fix is unplug and replug USB on the laser(the grey translucent cable). I moved donner USB plug back to face to make it easy to do this. [12/19/2017 1:55 AM] agr0090 Looks like it's using USB com port 5, I increased baud rate from 9600 to 57600 for blitzen only, will see if that makes a diffetence [12/19/2017 2:48 AM] talkers Is there a difference in lenses for the HD and long throw? Or is it the tube length? [12/19/2017 2:49 AM] talkers Having the air assist option enabled is good. In class I say to leave it on. It was not the problem with Frankie. [12/19/2017 2:50 AM] talkers The Zing software (acrobat and print driver) needs to be on all the laser computers, esp for class. [12/19/2017 2:52 AM] talkers With the current set up, I can only show 4 people at a time how to do the hands on portion, and even that is awkward, as you have to be to right to see the laser [12/19/2017 2:53 AM] talkers The zing is cutting very well. My typical settings for Vector are too aggressive. That's great news. Thank you all who have helped with it [12/19/2017 2:54 AM] talkers I have been pushing the Jan 7 meeting/work day for folks to get trained and involved in laser. [12/19/2017 2:54 AM] talkers I'll post it on Talk if it is not already there [12/19/2017 2:56 AM] talkers I do have a Zing specific class this week. Very cool to see it full. [12/19/2017 2:57 AM] talkers I wonder if the HD lens for the Thunder will be able to match the Zing's quality [12/19/2017 3:07 AM] canibalcrab I left 2 sets of speakers on the laser tables. Don't trash them [12/19/2017 3:07 AM] canibalcrab I'll be back tomorrow [12/19/2017 4:56 AM] agr0090 set them in lost and found, wasnt sure whose they were [12/19/2017 5:58 AM] canibalcrab Lost and found works. Thanks [12/19/2017 3:54 PM] agr0090 Any thoughts on idea to replace all of the random bits of metal being used as weights on lasers with som 3/16" hot rolled plate? 2'x4' = $50, would plasma cut into shapes such as corners, and have those as weights to hold down things. Would be ~4.8mm thick, so would prevent head crashing into it as long as its focused at correct height {Reactions} 💪 (2) [12/19/2017 3:56 PM] agr0090 Each piece would weigh 1.5-2 pounds [12/19/2017 4:11 PM] talkers Great idea [12/19/2017 5:31 PM] merissa4308 Love this idea! The huge chunks of metal that have accumulated in the area for weights do make me nervous for our lasers [12/19/2017 5:47 PM] pinewoodnut I like the idea, but any chance we could also get some magnets? Find something small but powerful and paint them red for laser. [12/19/2017 6:41 PM] stephenie. how would we use the magnets? [12/19/2017 6:46 PM] canibalcrab the bed is thin steel, the magnets would hold stuff to them [12/19/2017 6:46 PM] canibalcrab BUT [12/19/2017 6:47 PM] canibalcrab its so thin the magnests dont do that much [12/19/2017 6:47 PM] stephenie. (there's always a "but") [12/19/2017 6:49 PM] canibalcrab they are still weights, so theres that [12/19/2017 7:05 PM] gbeauw Be sure to engrave or mark the weights as Laser Group property. Stuff disappears too fast. With a label, they may stick around longer. {Reactions} 👍 [12/19/2017 7:57 PM] merissa4308 @pinewoodnut think we could find some magnets at 5mm or less and strong enough? [12/19/2017 9:16 PM] canibalcrab Laser blower just turned in on its own with zero people at the computers [12/19/2017 9:16 PM] canibalcrab And turned off [12/19/2017 9:17 PM] canibalcrab Can probably get a good video of me reacting to it at 9:15 {Reactions} 😆 😂 [12/19/2017 9:17 PM] merissa4308 Ghost laser user [12/19/2017 9:38 PM] agr0090 the auto delay off box I added to thunder has a usb 5v power supply plugged into the air assist outlet, probably that is triggering occassional false signals, as longs as it turns off soon I'm not too worried about it (20 to 25 seconds is the delay in the delay relay board) [12/19/2017 9:40 PM] agr0090 you could try pulling one of the neodynium magnets off the wait list and see if they would work, they are from home depot, but can order them in any size off amazon [12/20/2017 11:54 AM] adam1334 There was a large box of very powerful magnets in Machine Shop. They were effectively free for the taking, but may have all been claimed at this point. [12/20/2017 2:07 PM] talkers The blower relay on the Zing takes about 60 seconds from turning on the blower to allowing cutting. [12/20/2017 2:21 PM] merissa4308 I dont think it was doing that to me the other day, but can you put a sign up saying to turn the blower on early? [12/20/2017 2:43 PM] talkers I will. It's been an ongoing thing [12/20/2017 2:43 PM] talkers All four lasers are in use today. It's hopping. [12/20/2017 3:11 PM] gbeauw Hmm. We need to look into that Zing/blower delay issue. That shouldn't be happening. [12/20/2017 3:12 PM] gbeauw That means you don't really know if the laser will fire on the first part of your job. [12/20/2017 3:13 PM] agr0090 Is there a 60 second delay before interlock status led goes green after flipping switch? [12/20/2017 3:13 PM] gbeauw There wasn't any such delay in the past (i.e. before the move). [12/20/2017 3:14 PM] gbeauw If there is a light that comes on (Interlock status?) that shows when it is ready, we can use that as a temporary workaround by posting a notice. [12/20/2017 3:15 PM] gbeauw However, this makes me think we still have an interlock sensor problem that was discussed in the past. Not sure what Pearce did to fix it last time. I think it might have just suddenly started working again. Could be intermittent. [12/20/2017 3:18 PM] merissa4308 Lights are on the right side of the machine. @john a gorman if you're still around can you check it out? [12/20/2017 3:20 PM] gbeauw Here's what Epilog TS said about Interlock: [12/20/2017 3:20 PM] gbeauw Focus your attention on the right side wall. You will notice two wires are going to be attached to the sensors that are directly below the gaskets that keep the glass window from slamming. To test to see if these sensors are working you may loosen the screws that are keeping them in place. With two magnets I would like you to touch both the sensors. If it all works you should see the interlock notification light turn on, on the right side of the machine. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/393150776513527808/IMAG0200.jpg?ex=67b8ee31&is=67b79cb1&hm=d6c248f27da6fdb5368cf52aaa74a4b42c3008f43df30c3aba4284595cac68cb& [12/20/2017 3:22 PM] gbeauw Apparently there are two sensors and both must be activated or the Interlock light doesn't come on. [12/20/2017 3:22 PM] gbeauw I'm thinking that we have an intermittent wire to one of them or one of the sensors itself has gone intermittent. [12/20/2017 3:23 PM] gbeauw It could be that the 60 sec delay experienced was just the intermittent sensor finally activating after some vibration of the table or the Zing. [12/20/2017 3:23 PM] gbeauw Do we have two small magnets to run the test described by Epilog? [12/20/2017 3:24 PM] merissa4308 There are magnets in the top drawer of the tool chest for the magnetic dry erase board [12/20/2017 3:25 PM] merissa4308 Or on the board itself [12/20/2017 3:25 PM] merissa4308 Beau will you be around to take a look? [12/20/2017 3:37 PM] canibalcrab I did notice that the tube needing to be "warmed up" is true for the zing [12/20/2017 3:38 PM] canibalcrab It's possible that it just hadn't been used in a while and wasn't ready to cut. The blower has worked every time for me otherwise [12/20/2017 4:22 PM] gbeauw I don't think that the tube has to warm up. It should be ready to go immediately. I'll ask Epilog to confirm that. What have you experienced that leads you to believe that? I'm not being argumentative just curious as i haven't experienced that. (Or at least i haven't been aware it was happening. ) [12/20/2017 4:23 PM] gbeauw I'll come in this weekend at the latest to check it out. [12/20/2017 6:33 PM] canibalcrab Well [12/20/2017 6:35 PM] canibalcrab It hadn't been used in a while and when I started my raster it didn't do he first 6mm. And then faded into a working one. Confirmed by someone mentioning that rf tubes need a bit of warm up, saying that it was a con of rf but everything else made up for it [12/20/2017 6:36 PM] canibalcrab The zing also worked fine a few moments ago [12/20/2017 9:10 PM] gbeauw Called Epilog TS. Turns out you were right pearce. If the Zing laser has sat for awhile it can take a little while before the gas in the laser tube gets excited back up to full power. I'm trying to get more details as to how long it takes to come back up to full power from Epilog. {Reactions} 😮 [12/20/2017 9:11 PM] talkers Ahhhh [12/20/2017 9:11 PM] talkers Thanks guys [12/20/2017 9:12 PM] gbeauw They said that if it has sat very long you need to do a test run at 100% power in Vector mode. How long should that run be . . . depends. 😕 [12/20/2017 9:12 PM] gbeauw They also said that we should consider turning of the power to it when we are done using it if no one else is waiting for it. [12/20/2017 9:14 PM] gbeauw Better on the PS's in the unit AND it turns out that there is a special timer that runs after power up to "try" to account for this. I'm not real clear on this so they are going to send me an email with more details and their recommendation as to what sort of procedures we should use at DMS. [12/20/2017 9:16 PM] gbeauw They also said that this ramp up time is especially bad if you are trying to do a Raster and the unit has sat for awhile. Guess that means I need to make up a Warm-Up Vector job and run that a few times before jumping in to do some of my Raster Engraving. [12/20/2017 9:17 PM] gbeauw Now here's a question for the crew: Should we charge for laser time for warm-up runs? [12/20/2017 9:20 PM] gbeauw This timer function after Zing power on might account for the 60 sec delay AGr saw. Do you recall if you had just powered up the Zing when you saw this delay or had it been powered up for awhile? [12/20/2017 9:23 PM] canibalcrab No one had used it in a while [12/20/2017 9:24 PM] canibalcrab Along the lines of being told "I wish I could use the zing no one has been using it all day" but I don't have a time [12/20/2017 9:25 PM] canibalcrab Since we charge per 5 min, I don't think we should change the formula [12/20/2017 9:25 PM] canibalcrab Do a quick test run and see if it's working and in the right spot. It will ensure you are aligned anyway [12/20/2017 9:28 PM] gbeauw Yeah, but if I'm doing a Raster and it is critical that I have the exact Power set to only engrave through my black paint layer, how do I know if the power is back up to full strenght. 😕 [12/20/2017 9:29 PM] gbeauw That could really mess up one of my engraving jobs. Maybe the email will give me a better idea of the min|nominal|max warm up times. [12/20/2017 9:30 PM] gbeauw In any case, I was told that this applies to all gas lasers so technically the Thunders have the same issue. However, they are used much more often so I suspect it is not too much of an issue. [12/20/2017 9:31 PM] gbeauw I think this phenomena should be mentioned in the laser classes; especially for the Zing if it isn't already. [12/20/2017 9:33 PM] gbeauw In the past I've put in a piece of cardboard and did a test run to confirm my "basic" settings for a Raster job were correct. Sounds like it is even more important to do that now. [12/20/2017 9:33 PM] canibalcrab I seriously doubt you will be doing any long warm up rasters [12/20/2017 9:34 PM] gbeauw No they said do a warm up Vector at 100% to get it warmed up. [12/20/2017 9:34 PM] canibalcrab It took less than a few lines of the raster starting for my piece on a postage stamp sized etch. [12/20/2017 9:35 PM] canibalcrab Even more of a reason to believe you won't be spending any longer than a minute warming it up [12/20/2017 9:36 PM] canibalcrab The idea that you are going to incur a cost that's enough to merit changing the way people pay for the lasers is absurd [12/20/2017 9:36 PM] gbeauw But you don't know how long the laser had sat unfired. Could have been 10 minutes or it could have been a 10 hours. I suspect if it sits that long there could be a longer warm up. [12/20/2017 9:37 PM] gbeauw I don't have any opinion as to whether we need to change charge model. I'll leave that to others. I just mentioned it in case it was important. [12/20/2017 9:37 PM] canibalcrab Dude it sounds like you need to buy your own laser if your need is that specific [12/20/2017 9:38 PM] gbeauw I'd love to but it isn't in the cards. What I'll need to do is those test runs (which I pay for) to make sure the laser is up to full power. Then run the Raster. [12/20/2017 9:39 PM] gbeauw Now that I know about this I think it might explain some variations in some of the jobs I've done in the past. [12/20/2017 9:39 PM] canibalcrab Yep that's the first thing anyone should do. A test cut. [12/20/2017 9:40 PM] gbeauw Yep. 100% agree. Even more important if you need to do Rasters like I'm doing that "just" engrave through the top layer of paint. [12/20/2017 9:56 PM] talkers If it isn't cutting, then you should not pay. Start a test cut. Once it's working, then get your job ready. Then start the timer. [12/20/2017 9:56 PM] talkers Speaking of the Zing, I have a class on using tomorrow. [12/20/2017 9:57 PM] talkers I forgot to set a cut off. 14 people signed up to use it. [12/20/2017 9:57 PM] talkers To take* it [12/20/2017 10:03 PM] canibalcrab Should probably change it to two classes and contact them to see if they can take a later time. {Reactions} 👆 [12/20/2017 10:04 PM] talkers Yes, I'll write up an email and reach out [12/21/2017 3:20 PM] merissa4308 Anyone know how the wait list with the magnet strips is going? Are people using it as intended? [12/21/2017 3:39 PM] merissa4308 I still plan to improve on it using cermark to include instructions... Not likely to happen before the holidays though 😬 [12/21/2017 3:42 PM] gbeauw John, did the Zing work OK for your class? There was some discussion that it was still acting up and needed to be looked at. [12/21/2017 3:44 PM] gbeauw Oh, I see that class is not until 8PM tonight. Let me know if you have problems and I'll come in this weekend and try to address them. {Reactions} 😬 [12/21/2017 4:19 PM] pinewoodnut I haven't had a chance to set the computers to only allow the Laser Basics group access yet, but I'll try to get that done tonight or tomorrow. I did a check and found that group has 831 users currently [12/21/2017 4:26 PM] agr0090 what is estimated number of users that attempt to use lasers without having taken any training / class? [12/21/2017 4:40 PM] agr0090 Fyi to dump group membership, can run this in powershell: Get-ADGroupMember "CN=Laser Basics,OU=Security,OU=Groups,DC=dms,DC=local" | Sort-Object name | Format-Table -Property SamAccountName,name | Out-File laser_basics_members.txt [12/21/2017 4:43 PM] agr0090 827 in Laser Basics out of 3080 AD accounts that are in group Members [12/21/2017 5:07 PM] agr0090 can type whoami /groups at a command prompt to see what groups you are in, or net user USERNAME /domain to see groups for a specific person [12/21/2017 5:10 PM] agr0090 Another question is what is delay from finishing a class to being added to group, would someone be able to use laser right after a class? I don't think locking down pcs is worth administrative overhead, but I'm not the one who would be dealing with it [12/21/2017 5:16 PM] talkers Users without training don't get very far on the lasers [12/21/2017 5:16 PM] talkers I don't think it's worth it [12/21/2017 5:18 PM] talkers Instructors do the AD adds. They have to submit it within 2 days. Otherwise, it goes to calendar admins [12/21/2017 5:49 PM] pinewoodnut Let me know what the consensus is. I won't make the change until the committee decides [12/21/2017 5:51 PM] pinewoodnut The main concern I have is for after the laser basics class material is online. We've talked about requiring a hands-on test before getting access. [12/21/2017 5:56 PM] canibalcrab Unless they read the manual on the laser, that tells you how to use it [12/21/2017 5:58 PM] pinewoodnut No doubt..... Assuming you understand whatever language the manual is written in 😁 [12/21/2017 5:58 PM] talkers If moodle is to replace the class/be an alternative, then reading the manual is about the same [12/21/2017 5:59 PM] pinewoodnut Last I checked, it didn't appear to be in standard English [12/21/2017 6:00 PM] merissa4308 I'm most worried about people receiving the safety aspects covered in either an in or online class [12/21/2017 6:00 PM] talkers @pinewoodnut lol, I meant the ones we maintain [12/21/2017 6:01 PM] canibalcrab That's the issue. They would only know enough to be dangerous [12/23/2017 3:18 PM] ladysandry There are a couple students here at the laser waiting on the instructor for the 3pm basics class, any idea where he is? [12/23/2017 3:20 PM] merissa4308 The teacher is @tomthm. Tommy are you running late? [12/23/2017 3:29 PM] ladysandry @merissa I think they left. [12/24/2017 4:25 AM] talkers What's the guest PW for the Square kiosk? Evan and Jessica are trying to pay [12/24/2017 4:25 AM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/394435509474033674/IMG_20171223_215602.jpg?ex=67b8fd71&is=67b7abf1&hm=8d798ea2fa011c20b9b780dfa8cd07aa3838aa927c96eaa99c8f532a809eeda6& [12/24/2017 4:26 AM] talkers Check what Anita lasers on her screw driver [12/24/2017 5:03 AM] talkers Looks like the square is back up. I told Evan it was on Talk. Guess he found it [12/24/2017 5:04 AM] talkers One user complained of a comm issue on Donner. Told him to unplug to the USB. Someone posted a sign to that. Looks like a regular problem [12/24/2017 7:01 AM] clone1018 @john a gorman 1825 [12/24/2017 12:18 PM] talkers @LukeStrickland thank you [12/24/2017 7:14 PM] andrew5152 Recon everyone's busy, but FYI Thunder Laser closest the garage door: Rotary cap fell under the grill I tried to vacuum it and blow into reach. I was unable to retrieve it. Should be easy to reach if keys have to open the grill underside area. I apologize for the inconvenience. Jean Welch [12/24/2017 8:02 PM] pinewoodnut I got the rotary cap out of the bottom of Blitzen and back in the toolbox. [12/24/2017 8:03 PM] merissa4308 You're awesome David, thank you!! [12/24/2017 8:04 PM] pinewoodnut I also did a spot check on the lenses. Donner and Blitzen were fine, but Thunder was dirty. I cleaned it and the mirror on the laser head. It was still cutting fine, but dirty. {Reactions} 👍 (3) 👏 [12/24/2017 9:10 PM] stephenie. Gosh darn it! I forgot to pay! Fessing up. Post-it note in place to remind me tomorrow. [12/24/2017 9:26 PM] talkers I saw a new padlock on the tool cabinet. Is that where the keys are kept to the lasers? What's the plan for granting access? [12/24/2017 11:48 PM] stephenie. @pinewoodnut what's the link for the 300ft roll of transfer paper? I can only find transfer tape in that length. [12/24/2017 11:51 PM] pinewoodnut @stephenie this is what I just got 1 Roll 12in x 300ft Application / Transfer Tape, GreenStar Classic Adhesive - Vinyl Cutter Signs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C131Y04/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_3fjqAbEF4AH17 [12/24/2017 11:52 PM] pinewoodnut Looks like it is paper transfer tape. I can bring some up to the space for you to see before you order [12/24/2017 11:56 PM] stephenie. The description and Q&A says paper. What a great price. Shame it's not gridded. I use mine for lining up stuff too. [12/24/2017 11:56 PM] stephenie. Like the tumblers for etching. [12/24/2017 11:58 PM] pinewoodnut It's what cnczone or rdworkslab.com recommend [12/24/2017 11:58 PM] talkers Their price on vinyl is crazy $20-$25 for 24"* 30' [12/24/2017 11:59 PM] pinewoodnut Lines would be nice, but not needed for most of what I would use it for. [12/25/2017 12:00 AM] pinewoodnut Yeah, I'm going to try it with some vinyl decals, but since you can't see through it, lineup might be more difficult [12/25/2017 12:30 AM] talkers For vinyl, I like the clear without guide lines. Esp the clear shelf paper from Dollar Tree [12/25/2017 12:34 AM] stephenie. I feel the knee-jerk reaction to add the disclaimer: no transfer tape to be used in the laser. Just had to say it. Am always worried some well meaning laser user will see my xfer paper and not be able to figure out the difference. [12/25/2017 12:42 AM] canibalcrab vinyl decals are PVC do not cut them on the laser [12/25/2017 12:43 AM] talkers Yes, we should have moved the discussion to general. It's the transfer paper that Stephenie and David like for laser [12/25/2017 12:44 AM] stephenie. Right. We're talking about using transfer paper (typically used for transferring vinyl cut items) as masking with the laser. It's a dual purpose tool. [12/25/2017 12:45 AM] canibalcrab if you get the masking tape style stuff it should be fine [12/25/2017 12:46 AM] canibalcrab but not the clear plastic kind {Reactions} 👍 [12/25/2017 12:48 AM] talkers Agreed [12/25/2017 4:48 PM] stephenie. I saw this recommended by one of the transfer paper commenters: http://www.laserdark.com/application/. I wonder how it differs from straight up stain. {Embed} http://www.laserdark.com/application/ Application [12/27/2017 9:41 PM] stephenie. @merissa: I paid up my missed fee. {Reactions} 👍 [12/27/2017 9:52 PM] stephenie. Laser Field Report: (1) twice people waited to use the rotary even though thunders were free, i.e. lack of rotary created a queue where there was no queue for a laser. Longest wait was 1.5hrs. (2) People are saying nice things about the new queue system. They like the additional space to write and flexibility to shuffle the order. (3) Lots of poor scrap managment. Oversize pieces in trash can. Plywood pieces stacked up against the wall and tables and automotive shelves. I cleared some out, located missing owners, and found new users for scrap. Educated users about scrap management. (4) Someone blatantly jumped the queue ahead of another who was waiting 1.5 hrs for a specific machine. Educated user and resolved. {Reactions} 💯 [12/27/2017 11:03 PM] talkers Thank you @stephenie for both the report and the positive action [12/28/2017 12:47 AM] stephenie. @tomthm and @john a gorman Have you seen this comment? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/johnson-s-plastics-and-setting-fire-to-the-account/30570/2 [12/28/2017 12:48 AM] stephenie. "Several people I’ve talked to have said they were told during laser classes that Johnson’s plastics is a supplier and that DMS has an account there. It is a DMS use account only as it is a tax exempt account" [12/28/2017 12:48 AM] canibalcrab shouldnt have ever been mentioning to people that we had an account to use.. [12/28/2017 12:49 AM] stephenie. I've taken Laser Basics twice in the last year-plus. Neither instructor (Tommy and John) said this during those classes. But it might have creeped into the curriculum since my last class. [12/28/2017 12:50 AM] talkers I've never said it [12/28/2017 12:50 AM] talkers The documentation does not either [12/28/2017 12:50 AM] stephenie. John, I don't see Tommy on here much. Could you check with him and resolve if need be? [12/28/2017 12:51 AM] talkers I have recommended them as diy friendly, and that Curtis was a member [12/28/2017 12:51 AM] talkers Yes, I'll check in with Tommy {Reactions} dms [12/29/2017 11:30 AM] pinewoodnut How do we want to handle the office hours concept we talked about before? I'm happy to just put some time in the calendar and reserve Donner. I was thinking 2 hours at a time, but the question is when. I don't want to hold up the laser during heavy usage times. [12/29/2017 11:33 AM] pinewoodnut Also, since it isn't a specific training session or class, there isn't really an option for honorariums. I'm not personally concerned about that, but I want to put it out there so that we have discussed it. [12/29/2017 11:37 AM] stephenie. I can commit to one evening a month. 2 hours is a good place to start. It should be in primetime, meaning when the most people can take advantage of the service. It should be regular. What frequency should we offer? If we had two people, one to advise on Inkscape, another to advise on the laser operation, that might be an idea. I can't accept a 1099 honorarium without jeopardizing some of my benefits, so honorarium is a moot point with me. [12/29/2017 11:52 AM] stephenie. Wednesday nights are nearly always free for me. [12/29/2017 11:53 AM] canibalcrab I don't know that I would "reserve" a laser for it. I think you'll spend a lot of the office hour time helping people get their files straight for the lasers [12/29/2017 11:54 AM] canibalcrab Also the part where we don't reserve individual tools. Unless you are making it a class on the schedule [12/29/2017 11:54 AM] stephenie. I've met people who have good files but want someone to look over their shoulder while using the machine for the first few times. [12/29/2017 11:56 AM] stephenie. This would be a calendar event, so yes a tool could be reserved. But this was not plausible when we had only one functioning, full-service laser. [12/29/2017 12:00 PM] stephenie. We are holding several Laser Basics classes per month. They often fill up and seem to always hit their minimum. 7 classes in December = 21-56 new users who would welcome oversight on their first laser attempts. [12/29/2017 12:03 PM] stephenie. One set of office hours per month isn't going to disrupt Laser, would generate goodwill, and help integrate new users to our culture. [12/29/2017 12:25 PM] canibalcrab I'm just saying, don't reserve the tool without having it on the calendar. But y'all are already on that [12/29/2017 2:25 PM] stephenie. Thanks for the reminder, @pearce. [12/29/2017 11:18 PM] pinewoodnut Tried out lightburn software package tonight. Seems to work fine with vector cut/scan jobs. It has issues with graphic imports. It only sends a small part of the graphic. I'm just running it from my laptop for now and I make sure rdworks still works from the normal PC before I leave. I'll let you know how my testing goes. Let me know if there is something specific you'd like me to test. [1/1/2018 11:21 PM] merissa4308 Brandon finished up a couple improvements for us today. He made some new focusing pucks and better weight bars [1/1/2018 11:22 PM] merissa4308 Try them out and let us know what you think {Reactions} dms [1/2/2018 12:15 AM] agr0090 https://cad.onshape.com/documents/2448e5563c3cfe7fd9954909/w/69d26e026625dfed9924f26d/e/1daaa90be4912c89d100e5d6 [1/2/2018 12:20 AM] agr0090 Heights are 6 and 5mm, on assumption that for engraving you want focal point on surface and for cutting average of 1/8" material you would want focal point a little above center of material. Someone doing actual testing to find the best distances would be better than just guessing. Also the LASER is 4.5mm thick, and FOCUS is 4mm thick {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/397635202857304064/unknown.png?ex=67b96ca4&is=67b81b24&hm=c3cac01f2e389ff4c64111ae90b4ab9c87808da8e479af9cf4920e2ea9ea267a& [1/2/2018 8:54 AM] stephenie. Excellent. [1/2/2018 10:10 AM] shdragon That is amazing. [1/2/2018 3:21 PM] stephenie. bumped post of our Maintenance Day/Committee Mtg/Call for Chair Noms. [1/2/2018 3:29 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Stephenie! [1/2/2018 3:31 PM] merissa4308 Anyone know if the metal table that's parked between auto and our laser table belongs somewhere else in the space? [1/2/2018 3:43 PM] stephenie. I'm headed that way in the next hour. Will check if no answer turns up here in the mean time. {Reactions} 👍 [1/2/2018 4:06 PM] merissa4308 It showed up last night... Someone wheeled a wood project over on it and left the table there [1/2/2018 6:47 PM] stephenie. @LukeStrickland solved the mystery. Belongs to science. It's back home. [1/2/2018 6:54 PM] merissa4308 Awesome :) thanks yall! [1/2/2018 8:16 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/397936327280295937/IMG_20180102_201429.jpg?ex=67b93395&is=67b7e215&hm=a8b430d148700be8e6deb1f288d39dea0701679f56f9d930bc5c95a8369b53e9& [1/2/2018 8:17 PM] talkers Shawn found this on the donation shelf. He wonders if it is working or not. [1/2/2018 8:18 PM] canibalcrab looks liek the old one that was throwing arcs [1/2/2018 8:18 PM] canibalcrab its probably shorted [1/2/2018 8:20 PM] talkers Thanks Pearce [1/3/2018 12:32 PM] stephenie. Monitor is chromecasting pictures of laser creations. Couldn't have done it without @StanSimmons (google account gynastics) and @john a gorman (tv set up) and @merissa (collecting open house pics) . Best moment: Anita squealing "I'm famous!" when she saw her laser-etched screwdriver on the big screen. {Reactions} 😂 [1/3/2018 12:33 PM] stephenie. We've been getting compliments on it, especially from @kriskat30 . [1/3/2018 12:34 PM] stephenie. I'm culling pics from Show-n-Tell talk posts and adding them as time permits. If the maker included details, am adding text. [1/3/2018 10:32 PM] stephenie. @merissa Talk ban is lifted for you and Walter. [1/3/2018 10:33 PM] merissa4308 Thanks for the fyi [1/4/2018 12:08 AM] talkers What's the combo for the new locker? I'm assuming the lens cleaning supplies are there. [1/4/2018 7:52 AM] merissa4308 I'll be giving it out at the maintenance meeting on Sunday [1/4/2018 3:51 PM] clone1018 @merissa What table is that on the wall? [1/4/2018 3:51 PM] clone1018 and do they make them 9ft long 😃 [1/4/2018 3:58 PM] merissa4308 Umm, let me find info for you. It's butcher block counter ordered through amazon, think they had a couple length options... One sec [1/4/2018 4:01 PM] clone1018 Take your time [1/4/2018 4:10 PM] merissa4308 Allwood 6/4" (1.5") x 18" x 84" Birch Table / Counter / Island Top see all edge options (Routed edges both faces) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9LFD7Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gxQtAbWHCFMGF [1/4/2018 4:12 PM] clone1018 Thank you [1/4/2018 4:12 PM] merissa4308 There's an 8ft option but I don't see 9ft [1/4/2018 4:17 PM] merissa4308 Is this for the design computer station @LukeStrickland ? [1/4/2018 4:18 PM] clone1018 Yeah [1/4/2018 4:18 PM] merissa4308 Awesome [1/4/2018 4:18 PM] clone1018 Found https://www.flooranddecor.com/wood-butcher-block-countertops/oak-builder-grade-butcher-block-countertop-8ft.-100054337.html also {Embed} https://www.flooranddecor.com/wood-butcher-block-countertops/oak-builder-grade-butcher-block-countertop-8ft.-100054337.html https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/S7QkiWUYgNkweCvP-o1xaQ2OOzNcueRl9n__Z7027Mk/%3F%24parade230%24/https/i1a.adis.ws/i/flooranddecor/100054337_oak-builder-grade-butcher-block-countertop-8ft_main [1/4/2018 4:19 PM] merissa4308 Nice [1/4/2018 4:19 PM] clone1018 It requires some work vs the amazon one though [1/4/2018 4:20 PM] merissa4308 Think ours came with rounded edge on three faces, and brandon put a few coats of poly on the top to protect it, right @AGr ? [1/4/2018 4:25 PM] agr0090 I cut off one edge so it would be flush against wall [1/4/2018 4:25 PM] agr0090 3 coats of normal poly {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/4/2018 8:08 PM] talkers Lumber liquidators has 12', but it's a lot more expensive [1/5/2018 3:02 PM] stephenie. Sunday's 2p Laser class was cancelled? [1/5/2018 3:02 PM] stephenie. Laser Basics^ [1/5/2018 9:17 PM] merissa4308 Guess so since it's not on the calendar anymore [1/6/2018 12:48 PM] nclindberg Tomorrow at the committee meeting/laser maintenance are you guys starting with the maintenance first or the meeting? [1/6/2018 1:00 PM] merissa4308 We'll start with meeting unless anyone prefers differently {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/6/2018 6:48 PM] tomthm9900 Can anyone cover a laser basics class for me, tomorrow at 2 :00 PM? I was recovering nicely from flu, but today I’m going downhill. [1/6/2018 6:50 PM] merissa4308 There's no class on the calendar... Did you cancel it? [1/6/2018 7:31 PM] agr0090 Anyone with a truck going to be at meeting to help move lasersaur to dms dock? [1/6/2018 11:13 PM] tomthm9900 Thanks Marissa. Guess I did. Now I’m wondering what else I have done in my fever state. Thanks again. [1/6/2018 11:15 PM] talkers @tomthm get better [1/6/2018 11:18 PM] stephenie. @tomthm get well soon. Thank you for teaching a regular Sunday class. We've got a lot of new laser users thanks to you and @john a gorman . [1/7/2018 12:27 AM] stephenie. I was looking at the DMS online classes and was surprised to see a Laser Basics class by Ryan Caldwell. It's inaccessible. Is that a dead project? [1/7/2018 12:31 AM] talkers I can take a look. He worked on the online class, and passed it on to Nancee. Ryan was asking earlier this week if we needed teachers. His family moved to Florida as he finishes his last semester. He will have more time for the Space. [1/7/2018 6:44 AM] clone1018 @AGr I'm going to be renting a home depot one next Sunday for offsiting [1/7/2018 11:00 AM] gbeauw I'm here. What room are we meeting in? [1/7/2018 11:01 AM] gbeauw Meeting is today right or am I off a week? [1/7/2018 11:14 AM] merissa4308 Meeting now! moved to lecture hall so we can hear better [1/7/2018 11:20 AM] merissa4308 donuts and kolaches for attendees!! [1/7/2018 11:21 AM] merissa4308 anyone else planning to be here? [1/7/2018 11:27 AM] clone1018 i was going to drop by before extension meeting [1/7/2018 11:27 AM] clone1018 running late tho, it is a sunday lol [1/7/2018 11:27 AM] merissa4308 sounds good, we'll be here 😃 [1/7/2018 12:54 PM] talkers How did the meeting turn out? [1/7/2018 1:02 PM] agr0090 Why are 3 fire extinguishers missing from laser? [1/7/2018 1:03 PM] talkers Are those the ones with the bad welds? Ethan's going to repair them. [1/7/2018 1:04 PM] talkers Allen was talking about 3 the other day [1/7/2018 1:10 PM] agr0090 That's who we should send bill to for $500 if they don't show back up? [1/7/2018 1:17 PM] talkers Yes, send it to Allen [1/7/2018 1:17 PM] talkers How did the meeting go? [1/7/2018 1:37 PM] merissa4308 We're still here, come join :) [1/7/2018 1:50 PM] merissa4308 Anyone know where our "rawr" lasersaur leather strap went? [1/7/2018 1:52 PM] merissa4308 Taking things from the committee area is not allowed without chair approval [1/7/2018 1:53 PM] merissa4308 @john a gorman who is ethan and are the extinguishers here somewhere onsite? [1/7/2018 2:00 PM] talkers Ethan is a certified fire extinguisher tech. Teaches leather classes. Really nice guy. Allen said he's caring for the plethora of extinguishers we have. Allen also said you can tell if Ethan is there because the bed of his pickup truck is filled with extinguishers. The laser extinguishers might also be by the auto toolbox. [1/7/2018 2:03 PM] merissa4308 Lovely [1/7/2018 2:03 PM] merissa4308 We planned to repair them today, just needed a new rivet [1/7/2018 3:16 PM] clone1018 @merissa are you gone for the day? [1/7/2018 3:16 PM] clone1018 Found your extinguishes [1/7/2018 3:37 PM] agr0090 Gone for day [1/7/2018 3:41 PM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/399679051473616905/IMG_20180107_154122.jpg?ex=67b8f31f&is=67b7a19f&hm=e1603afbc955401feea25a31736f323a165c0d1fe5f3a36c94835acf53512ef0& [1/7/2018 3:45 PM] talkers Thanks @LukeStrickland [1/7/2018 4:16 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Luke. Just want to make sure it's known those are specifically for the lasers [1/7/2018 4:17 PM] merissa4308 Who's the storage card out to? [1/7/2018 4:21 PM] clone1018 Ethan [1/7/2018 9:46 PM] stephenie. I've added a note to the wiki maintenance history "07 January 2017. Ethan has our three extinguishers out for repair. See Laser discord channel beginning at 01/07/17, 1:02pm." [1/7/2018 9:47 PM] stephenie. Would any of today's maintenance team/committee update the wiki with what was accomplished, especially any power test readings? Thank you in advance. [1/7/2018 9:49 PM] merissa4308 I'm having trouble logging into the wiki for some reason [1/7/2018 9:50 PM] merissa4308 power tests found 125 watts on Thunder (nova63), and 130 watts on both Donner and Blitzen (nova35s) [1/7/2018 9:56 PM] stephenie. Got it. [1/7/2018 9:56 PM] stephenie. Anything done on the Zing? [1/7/2018 9:57 PM] merissa4308 don't think a power test was done on it, but not sure [1/7/2018 9:57 PM] merissa4308 all lasers got a good cleaning to include mirrors and lenses [1/7/2018 9:59 PM] stephenie. Thank you. All updates made. 👍 {Reactions} 😃 👍 [1/7/2018 10:18 PM] stephenie. @tomthm, @john a gorman and @pinewoodnut (who else teaches laser classes?) From Talk: "This is a reminder that classes that take place January 1 and into the future will require that the instructor/host must complete the attendance part in the calendar within in 24 hours after class completion. This was officially announced at the board meeting on the 17th. This is only a few check boxes and shouldn't take more than a minute. As always, let me know if you have any questions." https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/if-you-are-a-teacher-read-me-i-e-dms-instructor/15738 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/if-you-are-a-teacher-read-me-i-e-dms-instructor/15738 If you are a teacher, READ ME (i.e., DMS instructor) This is a reminder that classes that take place January 1 and into the future will require that the instructor/host must complete the attendance part in the calendar within in 24 hours after class completion. This was officially announced at the board meeting on the 17th. This is only a few check boxes and shouldn't take more than a minute. As always, let me know if you have any questions. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [1/7/2018 10:20 PM] talkers The Zing has been doing great in the last month. Better than it has in ages. It again cuts 1/8" easily and cleanly. {Reactions} dms [1/7/2018 11:52 PM] pinewoodnut I made a small update to the maintenance wiki..... It's 2018 now 😁 [1/7/2018 11:54 PM] stephenie. Where's the smh emoji? {Reactions} 🤦 [1/8/2018 12:14 AM] stephenie. hahahahaha. Of course. [1/8/2018 5:50 PM] clone1018 @merissa Ethan fixed all of your co2 , you have all lasers covered and two additional [1/8/2018 5:51 PM] merissa4308 Awesome, thank you! [1/8/2018 5:51 PM] talkers Way to go Ethan [1/8/2018 5:51 PM] merissa4308 Yes we ended up with two extra, after reporting the damaged ones to amazon they sent more [1/8/2018 5:52 PM] merissa4308 Will keep them in the laser area unless other parts of the space need co2 extinguishers [1/8/2018 5:54 PM] talkers Allen says Auto is switching over to CO2 as well. The chemical extinguishers damage cars just like the lasers would be damaged [1/8/2018 5:55 PM] talkers And that makes it safer for laser, reducing the risk someone grab the wrong one [1/9/2018 7:13 PM] stephenie. Updated wiki to reflect extinguisher status. {Reactions} 💪 (2) [1/10/2018 4:19 PM] clone1018 @merissa new light in the corner could be $100 [1/10/2018 4:45 PM] canibalcrab Worth it [1/10/2018 4:47 PM] merissa4308 Sounds great! Can cover with laser funds [1/10/2018 4:48 PM] merissa4308 Anything you need me to do to make it happen? [1/10/2018 4:54 PM] clone1018 nope, e-z [1/10/2018 4:54 PM] clone1018 I'll let you know {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/12/2018 1:19 AM] stephenie. @merissa Machine Shop published its meeting minutes on Talk. Could you do the same for us? {Reactions} 💪 [1/12/2018 7:37 AM] merissa4308 I normally do right after meetings while it's fresh on my mind, but something came up at the end of maintenance that was pressing [1/12/2018 7:38 AM] merissa4308 I'll try to get it done soon [1/12/2018 8:20 AM] stephenie. Understood. [1/12/2018 7:50 PM] agr0090 can anyone measure the diameter of the lens holder? the part that goes up and down when you loosen the set screw [1/12/2018 8:05 PM] talkers The zing is down. Bed is jammed at the bottom. I'll work on it tonight [1/13/2018 1:26 AM] ferrouswheel4299 Thanks for teaching the Laser basics tonight @john a gorman [1/13/2018 1:27 AM] ferrouswheel4299 It was really interesting and a great first class at the Space. [1/13/2018 1:28 AM] talkers @FerrousWheel you are most welcome [1/13/2018 1:28 AM] talkers Thanks for joining us on Discord [1/13/2018 1:30 AM] agr0090 I'm assuming 24mm and printing something to hold dial indicator to better test bed level {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/401639004153315328/unknown.png?ex=67b8d438&is=67b782b8&hm=d4dc4401919e70e328ff7b23f2fdc32a82d3c2cc8f511f63b376a5098a374469& [1/13/2018 3:59 PM] talkers That's a great idea [1/13/2018 4:37 PM] themitch22 OpenSCAD FTW. I seriously need to use that more. [1/13/2018 6:31 PM] talkers **Cough** Fusion 360 **cough** [1/14/2018 12:37 PM] merissa4308 Anyone available to help move the lasersaur back from offsite today? Will likely need another guy or two to help lift [1/14/2018 12:38 PM] stephenie. Take pictures? [1/14/2018 3:47 PM] clone1018 We got it back to DMS [1/14/2018 3:47 PM] clone1018 it's palletized now [1/14/2018 3:49 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402217570830385152/20180114_154804.jpg?ex=67b8f4cd&is=67b7a34d&hm=5ff0d3b63b0c561bc979fbe90313e45cd9695d9315a264e8cb36d6513d5b583d& [1/14/2018 3:49 PM] merissa4308 We owe machine shop a strap [1/14/2018 4:04 PM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402221392566943786/download_20180114_160343.jpg?ex=67b8f85c&is=67b7a6dc&hm=2d62cd48962442e5f933d6695d242a42f19fc34d7bd4a1f724d429d5244e202a& [1/14/2018 8:14 PM] stephenie. Aw. Great pics! [1/14/2018 8:15 PM] stephenie. Opened a trouble ticket on Talk. Blitzen's PC is no longer running Illustrator. Says our license has expired. @StanSimmons is on it. [1/14/2018 9:13 PM] talkers Stan said he had to wait till tomorrow [1/14/2018 9:16 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman would you write a note on the bulletin board that a ticket has been opened for this? Many users aren't on Talk. [1/14/2018 9:17 PM] talkers Will do [1/15/2018 8:47 PM] talkers Zing is fixed. I leveled the bed [1/15/2018 8:47 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402655150562344970/IMG_20180115_201803.jpg?ex=67b93ad4&is=67b7e954&hm=06cb766a7794bdd9b1808261f6352c561d638ad9b58115d1842035e3714f81bc& [1/15/2018 8:48 PM] talkers Pull the grid [1/15/2018 8:48 PM] talkers It's the lower right nut that seems to bind and go wacky [1/15/2018 8:49 PM] talkers I removed the screw for the table in that corner. Then you can raise the bed and use the feeler gauge to check level. {Reactions} 👏 dms [1/15/2018 9:18 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402662774016311297/IMG_20180115_200942.jpg?ex=67b941ee&is=67b7f06e&hm=a1806bb3035be0e5f0cc994c42f50c02acc813c4b3e3257983a140394b48980f& [1/15/2018 9:18 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402662798749990912/IMG_20180115_200939.jpg?ex=67b941f4&is=67b7f074&hm=f636d83b99ab489806766c072a923cfe6956044f4ad6145cdb0023becab62473& [1/15/2018 9:18 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/402662888302444564/IMG_20180115_200928.jpg?ex=67b94209&is=67b7f089&hm=8c72233c48e296c9e60790d000b9ae8c2e33921facae73bafa5e0c7dcf446eca& [1/15/2018 9:20 PM] talkers Blitzen does something weird. I download a job at 80% power. It then changes it to 70%. It consistently cuts power by 10% [1/15/2018 9:23 PM] canibalcrab make sure the powers are set properly at the control panel [1/15/2018 9:24 PM] canibalcrab and change them in the program not the control panel [1/15/2018 9:24 PM] agr0090 Didn't David mentioned it is firmware limited to 70% from factory currently? [1/15/2018 9:35 PM] merissa4308 Yep I think @pinewoodnut talked to thunder about that. It's a factory setting I dont think we can change [1/15/2018 9:35 PM] merissa4308 Will have to slow down your speed instead [1/15/2018 9:40 PM] pinewoodnut I talked to Thunder tech support about the 70% thing about a week ago. They are setting that as the max power for Donner and Blitzen to safeguard the machines and said we should contact them if we want to go above that. [1/15/2018 9:50 PM] pinewoodnut They never said what the safe percentage would be for the tube, so I'd rather not push it to 100% just the see what happens. [1/15/2018 10:19 PM] canibalcrab the 63 is set to 95 [1/15/2018 10:35 PM] talkers The 95% has worked well on 63, as the tube is still at 125 watts [1/15/2018 10:36 PM] talkers Let's set it to that so the settings are consistent across the board [1/15/2018 10:36 PM] talkers And we get to use near 130 watts [1/15/2018 10:37 PM] talkers Power does start to level off at a certain point though. [1/15/2018 10:38 PM] merissa4308 I'm not comfortable saying yes to changing it until we get more info from thunder on why they've made the change [1/16/2018 12:27 AM] talkers @merissa do you want to ask them? I was wondering what other firmware changes are, and if it would benefit us to update 63 [1/16/2018 12:27 AM] talkers Sorry, I meant to say, do you want me to ask them? Or maybe David [1/16/2018 12:28 AM] merissa4308 Sure anyone who wants to try and get more info would be great [1/16/2018 12:28 AM] talkers Is Clay on here yet? He and David will get on well. Both founts of knowledge [1/16/2018 12:29 AM] talkers Ok, I'll message Thunder [1/16/2018 12:29 AM] merissa4308 Are a lot of folks experiencing problems with the laser performance? I've pretty much only heard good things, cutting well, etc [1/16/2018 12:30 AM] talkers No. Most all good. Someone had the rotary the wrong way and wondered why their image was mirrored [1/16/2018 12:30 AM] talkers Lots of happy campers [1/16/2018 12:31 AM] merissa4308 Ok, guess I don't see that making an adjustment is a priority then [1/16/2018 12:31 AM] talkers A second rotary would be good. I'll ask about pricing if that's ok. [1/16/2018 12:31 AM] merissa4308 yes that'd be great [1/16/2018 12:32 AM] merissa4308 at the meeting David said he has a contact that has a different style of rotary that would be cheap, but wants to test it out first [1/16/2018 12:32 AM] talkers Oh, about the power adjustment, I wonder if users are noticing that, and then compensating [1/16/2018 12:32 AM] merissa4308 So decided to wait a bit on getting another till we evaluate options, but I'm good with getting a second when we have info [1/16/2018 12:34 AM] talkers The other style is what we had for the Full Spectrum. It gives us more options. It doesn't need an adjustment based on diameter, as it rolls as at a constant speed regardless of size [1/16/2018 12:35 AM] talkers I'll talk to Thunder and then you can decide on a second rotary. It is super popular. I'm glad people are using it so much [1/16/2018 1:27 AM] stephenie. With the roller style, will it accommodate larger diameter objects than the 3-jaw chuck? [1/16/2018 2:05 AM] talkers Yes. Most designs have one roller driven by the motor. It replaces the Y motor. No adjustments needed. It rotates the object the same as if the gantry was moving on the Y axis [1/16/2018 2:07 AM] talkers Different diameters are handled by moving the 2nd roller farther out or closer in [1/16/2018 2:07 AM] talkers You only need a few steps to handle a wide variety [1/16/2018 2:08 AM] talkers This is one version [1/16/2018 2:08 AM] talkers https://www.bosslaser.com/rotary-attachment-roller.html {Embed} https://www.bosslaser.com/rotary-attachment-roller.html https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nqx6wosDHULyw3ozXDIYfbi6O_xO5cVFqqbTrmNAHbE/https/www.bosslaser.com/skin/frontend/athlete/default/boss_laser.png [1/16/2018 1:20 PM] stephenie. Being able to handle larger diameter objects sounds like a great reason to add that rotary style to our collection. [1/16/2018 11:20 PM] brockelee I’m by no means an expert but I seem to recall reading in multiple places that setting output above 65-70% for any laser shortens the lifespan of the tube and also causes less focus in the laser output. Perhaps that’s correlated to Thunders changes? {Reactions} 👍 [1/17/2018 2:52 PM] stephenie. @merissa What time is the next laser maintenance day? I have it down for Sunday, Feb 4th and want to include it on the next paper calendar. Will add to event calendar as well. [1/18/2018 1:02 PM] merissa4308 Will be like last time 11-2 unless there's already a conflict on the calendar [1/18/2018 1:03 PM] merissa4308 I'll submit it for the calendar today {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/18/2018 11:06 PM] motopilot_ OK, I finally installed Discord and found out how to find this space. (by the way, the URL by itself wouldn't ever work for me) I had to install the application, then use the URL to "join a server." Maybe that's clear to you but it wasn't to me and i doubt it will be for any other new discord users. - Clay [1/18/2018 11:07 PM] canibalcrab yeah the webversion doesnt work on mobile very well. best to use the app [1/18/2018 11:07 PM] motopilot_ (I'm on a windows 10 pc) - looks to be an IE11 issue - it works with chrome [1/18/2018 11:11 PM] canibalcrab discord.gg does work then, which url did you use? ill have to check to make sure its correct [1/18/2018 11:12 PM] canibalcrab oh [1/18/2018 11:12 PM] canibalcrab honestly never thought to test on that [1/18/2018 11:17 PM] motopilot_ I used the laser invite link that was just posted on the laser wiki page. Works with Edge and Chrome. IE11 just displays a black page. Could also be corporate security on my computer blocking something that it doesn't like on this page. [1/18/2018 11:18 PM] canibalcrab weird, i cant imagine it was IE actually having the issue. corp probably had "gaming" blocked, discord was intended for game comms but works really well for us since its free [1/20/2018 4:56 PM] merissa4308 Still wondering... Who took the "rawr" lasersaur strap from the wall? [1/20/2018 5:05 PM] merissa4308 Anyone know why the laser would be scaling one axis differently than what's in rdworks? [1/20/2018 5:18 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404414397864345600/IMG_20180120_171749.jpg?ex=67b909c2&is=67b7b842&hm=bd8e60eb1f9e7e816c02ac69bda09e9c4b0eae0cabf333fafe091ad98e790efa& [1/20/2018 5:18 PM] agr0090 It's only scaling y, and an unknown amount between 2 and less than 2.54x [1/20/2018 5:19 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404414661119705089/IMG_20180120_171918.jpg?ex=67b90a00&is=67b7b880&hm=38ace4adbf692faeecdc45ceef6e6d320aaded5c747a334078fbc2277cc0d0f4& [1/20/2018 5:19 PM] agr0090 That was a 2x taller and 2.54x taller attempt at scaling in Rd works before downloading to laser [1/20/2018 5:22 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404415533010780161/IMG_20180120_172207.jpg?ex=67b90ad0&is=67b7b950&hm=694f7de999e47b2ca2a115e4e2bf85ce0f9dd37997775107cb2abcde9717aa41& [1/20/2018 5:23 PM] agr0090 It was the enable rotate engrave checkbox in output tab [1/20/2018 5:26 PM] canibalcrab That'll do it [1/20/2018 5:40 PM] stephenie. @merissa.... @David Kessinger has told us to provide a copy of NC's lease agreement and proof of 501c3 status before shipping Lasersaur. Do you have that? He brought this requirement up again at the Member meeting. [1/20/2018 5:41 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Stephenie [1/20/2018 5:41 PM] merissa4308 They bought a building, I've provided that info to several board members [1/20/2018 5:43 PM] merissa4308 http://fcwhack.com/ [1/20/2018 5:56 PM] stephenie. Fabulous news! I look forward to perusing their website. So we're just missing 501c3 proof? [1/20/2018 5:57 PM] merissa4308 I'll get it to the board before the saur ships {Reactions} 👍 [1/20/2018 5:57 PM] merissa4308 Intended to weigh it today but the gantry is in use [1/20/2018 6:01 PM] merissa4308 Ordering more chairs/stools from amazon today. Looking at wall mounted shelves for above the work table too to display lasered pieces [1/20/2018 6:02 PM] merissa4308 Anything else we need (other than thunder equipment) that I can order as well? [1/20/2018 6:18 PM] stansimmons2031 Larger SSD's. The little 120GB ones fllled up quickly with profiles. David Summers is working on a powershell script to clean them out regularly [1/20/2018 6:19 PM] stansimmons2031 If you want me to order them and install them, I'll be happy to do so. [1/20/2018 6:33 PM] merissa4308 Sounds like if David creates that it would solve any potential issue [1/20/2018 6:55 PM] stansimmons2031 alleviate, but not solve... I've been buying nothing smaller than 250gb SSD, high use machines get 500gb [1/20/2018 7:15 PM] merissa4308 Let's start with not installing any more unnecessary programs on our laser computers please [1/20/2018 7:29 PM] merissa4308 Strap we used for packing up lasersaur has been replaced {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404447366662586368/20180120_165927.jpg?ex=67b92876&is=67b7d6f6&hm=06a64656e143789964b241f7c10e05104b4ee798956636d5a58e5e985ab3cb12& [1/20/2018 8:37 PM] merissa4308 Mounted the material board on the wall by the zing {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/404464544182829067/20180120_203519.jpg?ex=67b93875&is=67b7e6f5&hm=9f40de40a950348d272b7a1e6b6b72b354d7d34c7c1e4f6e0d65a36eebe25b74& [1/20/2018 10:43 PM] andrew5152 @StanSimmons I'll throw into the space management suggestion that Windows 10 is now equipped with "features" to manage shared workstations that might be worth looking into, if you haven't already: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/set-up-shared-or-guest-pc {Embed} https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/set-up-shared-or-guest-pc Set up a shared or guest PC with Windows 10 (Windows 10) Windows 10, version 1607, introduces *shared PC mode*, which optimizes Windows 10 for shared use scenarios. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/C7QPFALOCmNnSU5wq68xHBR2nWvPmQPYEtU9_5Gmma0/https/docs.microsoft.com/_themes/docs.theme/master/en-us/_themes/images/microsoft-header.png [1/20/2018 10:55 PM] stephenie. @merissa would you update the wiki (https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee#Additional_Documentation) with links to where chairs and stools were purchased.? Wiki already has documentation for the whiteboard and standing desk table top. Thx. {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee Laser Committee [1/20/2018 10:59 PM] talkers The chairs and stools will be welcome for the classes. [1/20/2018 11:00 PM] talkers Thanks @merissa and @AGr for the work you put in today {Reactions} 👍 [1/20/2018 11:47 PM] merissa4308 I did that earlier today Stephenie [1/20/2018 11:47 PM] merissa4308 added toolbox too [1/20/2018 11:51 PM] stephenie. Awesome! [1/21/2018 12:12 AM] merissa4308 chairs/stools/shelf stuff ordered and should be in by next weekend. Will have two stools for the worktable and two more chairs so there's two per desk {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/21/2018 12:26 AM] stephenie. That's a great price on the chairs. [1/21/2018 12:28 AM] stephenie. At the member meeting, the board asked us to create a way for members to give us more pictures of lasered creations for the chromecast. I created a folder for new submissions on the committee drive and posted a request on Talk. [1/21/2018 12:29 AM] merissa4308 sounds good [1/22/2018 4:19 PM] motopilot_ I've seen the "enable rotate engrave" option on RDWorks cause several people headaches (including me). I'm wondering if there's a way using a logon script to reset all RDWorks settings back to a default state. When people mess with the settings, it just causes problems for the next person to use the machines. - I'll research and see what I can come up with. {Reactions} 💪 (3) [1/22/2018 4:21 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Clay! If nothing else we need to make/update an faq on common issues and include that [1/22/2018 5:20 PM] talkers Same thing with y mirror axis. I don't know why people change it, but it affects others [1/22/2018 5:20 PM] talkers RDWorks is pretty random about what settings stick [1/23/2018 10:27 AM] stephenie. I've updated the wiki with the link to the Google photo album of the chromecast under Additional Documentation and a placeholder for meeting minutes under the Committee section. [1/23/2018 10:28 AM] stephenie. The Google account's password has been saved to the admin wiki. [1/23/2018 11:19 AM] stephenie. From the Member Meeting... The four board members present reminded us that it takes approval at a Board Meeting to install a new Chair. Meaning if, @merissa , you postpone vacating your term until February, the new Chair won't be seated until late February's board meeting. The board members were in agreement...they do not want to approve a new Chair to serve only one month. They would expect you to fulfill the term with that short of a remainder. So you would be stuck. I don't know if that matters to you or not at this point, but you did say February 4th meeting was your last day. We did have a super-fast motion + second + voice acclamation at our committee meeting to elect me as chair - even though we all know it was a burst of spontaneous enthusiasm out of relief from those present that none of them would have to take the gig. LOL. Afterwards, we backtracked. No issue there. Still no issue as far as I'm concerned. But it does give you an out if you want to put a motion on this week's Board Meeting agenda to approve me as Chair. Whatever you decide would either move up what you wanted as your retirement date by 9 days or prolong it until April. I'm game either way, no skin off of my back. [1/23/2018 12:47 PM] merissa4308 It's funny the board thinks they can force anyone to remain as chair [1/23/2018 12:47 PM] stephenie. Ma'am. I'm just the messenger. [1/23/2018 12:47 PM] stephenie. sigh [1/23/2018 12:48 PM] merissa4308 If you are comfortable with becoming chair on friday then that's fine by me, but no one volunteered their name to run at the last meeting, which is why I said it's going to happen in February [1/23/2018 12:48 PM] merissa4308 So there was no actual committee vote [1/23/2018 12:48 PM] stephenie. I did. I said I wanted the gig. [1/23/2018 12:48 PM] stephenie. David made a motion, someone shouted second. [1/23/2018 12:49 PM] stephenie. A cheer went up. [1/23/2018 12:49 PM] merissa4308 I remember it being Beau nominating you for the february vote [1/23/2018 12:50 PM] stephenie. Correction. @gbeauw . I thought he nominated me for that meeting. Then it all went fast. My misunderstanding. [1/23/2018 12:51 PM] merissa4308 Right, either way I'm fine with you taking over if you're ready and the board approves [1/23/2018 12:52 PM] merissa4308 Are you ok with me putting on that on the agenda for Friday's meeting? [1/23/2018 12:55 PM] stephenie. Yep. Or I would have kept my head down. LOL. Back when we talked about my interest at the October Open House, I thought it would take a long time to get acclimated. Like as in a year from now. But this group is amazingly active. No Chair has to know everything. Not scary at all. [1/23/2018 12:56 PM] canibalcrab Hahaha why would they oppose letting a new volunteer take over. That's silly. They are just counting on the fact that you'll stay because they said no [1/23/2018 12:56 PM] stephenie. Me stay or Merissa stay? [1/23/2018 12:57 PM] canibalcrab Telling a chair that they have to stay because they don't want to make an interim chair for a month [1/23/2018 12:57 PM] stephenie. In this case, the interim is willing to run for a full term, unless the committee has other ideas. It's all good. [1/23/2018 12:57 PM] merissa4308 Yep, more unnecessary drama from the board. We have a plan and for no good reason it's unacceptable. . [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] canibalcrab Right [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] merissa4308 Fyi you will be chair until April [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] stephenie. I know. [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] merissa4308 Then all committees have to have another vote [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] stephenie. Then another election [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] canibalcrab Which just means Merissa is still the "chair" [1/23/2018 12:58 PM] stephenie. Until Friday. [1/23/2018 12:59 PM] canibalcrab Until the board decides to approve another [1/23/2018 1:00 PM] canibalcrab But basically you get to act as chair and Merissa just pushes the buttons to make what you request happen [1/23/2018 1:00 PM] stephenie. No. [1/23/2018 1:00 PM] stephenie. Merissa am I not understanding this? [1/23/2018 1:00 PM] merissa4308 It will be the same amount of "work"for the board to approve, just spaced out differently than we discussed before [1/23/2018 1:01 PM] merissa4308 You're right. I'm stepping down and you will be chair [1/23/2018 1:01 PM] stephenie. got it [1/23/2018 1:01 PM] merissa4308 The interim part is that it's only a portion of a 6 month term [1/23/2018 1:01 PM] stephenie. got that too [1/23/2018 1:02 PM] merissa4308 If we voted in early feb and vote wasnt ratified by the board till later feb, you wouldnt be official for a short bit and I'd still be chair technically as pearce is talking about {Reactions} 🍴 [1/23/2018 1:03 PM] stephenie. ahhh [1/23/2018 1:03 PM] stephenie. emoji fail. I was looking for a lightbulb! [1/23/2018 1:03 PM] canibalcrab Alright I don't understand that emote at all [1/23/2018 1:03 PM] stephenie. Got knife and fork instead [1/23/2018 1:03 PM] canibalcrab Lolol [1/23/2018 1:04 PM] stephenie. LOL [1/23/2018 1:04 PM] merissa4308 That fits perfectly because I'm typing while eating lunch 😁 [1/23/2018 1:04 PM] merissa4308 Gotta get back to work, will be away for a few hours then will update agenda tonight [1/23/2018 1:05 PM] stephenie. I needed a good laugh. Awesome. All is well. Enjoy your day. [1/23/2018 1:05 PM] merissa4308 You too! [1/23/2018 1:12 PM] stephenie. A word to @MotoPilot ... used the sample board yesterday when a member who had never lasered acrylic wanted advice. Excellent tool. Am glad @merissa found a home for it. [1/23/2018 4:51 PM] merissa4308 👍 we made the acrylic sample this weekend, so glad it came in handy 😀 {Reactions} 🍴 [1/23/2018 6:00 PM] stephenie. I am giving you a knife and fork emoji! Just because it makes me smile now... [1/23/2018 6:22 PM] tomthm9900 Thanks [1/23/2018 6:23 PM] tomthm9900 Didn’t finish my message before sending. Rest of it follows [1/23/2018 6:28 PM] tomthm9900 Thanks to past and future Chairs for the time time you spend and the headaches you endure. The laser area is greatly improved! Thank you also to the members who helped make it happen. {Reactions} 👏 (2) [1/23/2018 8:05 PM] motopilot_ regarding RDworks settings - so far I've found that some of the settings are stored in the soft.ini file which is in the same folder as the RDWorks.exe application. There's also a Param.ini file that contains pre-set materials parameters that we could populate if we want to. You can select a material and load the settings in the Layer parameters (where you set speed and power). The rotary engrave setting is a bit tricky. It appears that value is stored in one Hexidecimal value in the "config" file. I think we could restore the soft.ini and config files to a "known good" state in order to reset the settings back to a common set of defaults. Should be easy with a logon script to copy the master files into the RDWorks folder overwriting any existing files there that have been changed by the previous user. {Reactions} dms [1/23/2018 8:09 PM] talkers That's great work Clay! [1/23/2018 8:21 PM] stephenie. That would solve so many users' headaches. [1/23/2018 11:43 PM] stephenie. A member has opened a Request ticket to add Fusion 360 + DXFforLaser to the Laser computers. Any downside? [1/23/2018 11:59 PM] talkers Not that I see. Light footprint for fusion. It's avail on the jump server, but doesn't work for everyone and has some features unable. Having access on the PCs allow tweaks, just like Inkscape and Illustrator, to sizing and layout. [1/24/2018 8:21 AM] motopilot_ I'm curious as to why logging onto the jump server doesn't work. (aside from most people not knowing how) You can save files locally or to the members directory.... Seems that it would be easier to not maintain a lot of extra software on each of the laser computers. (and really, converting to .dxf from F360 should be done away from the laser so you're not designing, just cutting while at a machine) {Reactions} dms [1/24/2018 8:26 AM] motopilot_ Same with Illustrator... why install a license on the laser computer when/if you can run it on the Jump server? I notice it isn't there, though, so maybe that's a licensing limitation? [1/24/2018 8:36 AM] motopilot_ I also took a look at RDworks on the jump server. When you change settings, they are not saved on that computer because there are no user permissions to change files in the RDWorks folder. It throws an error that it doesn't have access to the tmp files too (which should be fixable though). We might be able to do the same thing on the Laser servers. Just set the RDWorks settings as we want them, and then update permissions on the RDWorks folder to not allow logged on users to write to the settings files. [1/24/2018 11:44 AM] stephenie. Laser has almost 600 members who have completed Laser Basics. I would agree that most do not know how to use the jump server or want to use it. We have 4 computers. Let's make a quick list of what SW should be installed: Inkscape, AI, RDW, Adobe Reader, Fusion360. What else? It seems like a drop in the bucket compared to what's on my machine at home. [1/24/2018 11:44 AM] stephenie. Illustrator does have licensing restrictions. Can't be on jump server. [1/24/2018 11:47 AM] stephenie. The conclusion we've reached in the recent past is that we want the HW and SW consistent throughout Laser. [1/24/2018 11:48 AM] motopilot_ We should first decide whether the laser computers are primarily design or cut computers. Installing anything other than RDWorks automatically encourages design work on those machines. [1/24/2018 11:49 AM] stephenie. Design is less about SW than it is about where you are in the making process. [1/24/2018 11:49 AM] motopilot_ Another thought would be an additional design computer in the laser area not connected to the lasers. {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/24/2018 11:50 AM] stephenie. You can have the best design possible, take it to RDW, then find problems once you are here. Everyone needs the ability to "tweek". And that takes the full suite. [1/24/2018 11:51 AM] stephenie. In theory, tweek is not nearly as time consuming as design [1/24/2018 11:51 AM] stephenie. And thus does not impede the queuu [1/24/2018 11:51 AM] stephenie. queue [1/24/2018 11:55 AM] motopilot_ And, while we're brainstorming, you could load your job onto a USB stick from the design computer and plug it into the laser to run. (not as convenient as sending it directly, but you could run a job quickly while the other person is working on their design!) [1/24/2018 11:59 AM] motopilot_ The primary issue to solve is really when does tweak turn into design, and if there is a queue, encouraging people not to use the laser computers to spend more than a few minutes in the design phase of their work. [1/24/2018 12:04 PM] stephenie. That last sentence exactly. It's a human problem, not a tech problem. [1/24/2018 12:05 PM] stephenie. Discernment. [1/24/2018 12:09 PM] stephenie. I categorize a committee's concerns as: Physical Plant, Classes, Finances, Culture. This falls into Culture. [1/24/2018 12:14 PM] stephenie. The solution needs us, the committee members. When I'm up there, which is at least 3x/wk, I walk through laser, greet users, introduce myself, look at the queue, ask if any of those people are now on the machines and need names removed. If lasers are open, I ask if the next person has been called. I'll call them myself if need be. Then I'll gently educate people about queue etiquette. I tell them I'm trying to raise awareness of the queue and that a happy queue makes for a happy Laser area. Everyone so far has responded positively. They usually tell me how much they love the new queue system and that the additional lasers keep the line moving. [1/24/2018 3:59 PM] stephenie. @merissa Donner's air assist was on the lowest flow. Fire! Flow was turned back on full. You have access to the cameras. User who reported issue was on around 1:30. Can you see who was on before him? Someone needs an education of the dangers of restricting the air assist, namely forgetting to turn it back on full. [1/24/2018 4:03 PM] stephenie. To any one of our maintenance crew: could someone take a look at Donner's optics? Now Donner's pointer is almost invisible. Smoke from fire? Unfortunately, I don't know how to clean it. [1/24/2018 4:17 PM] canibalcrab I'll look tonight {Reactions} 👍 [1/24/2018 4:34 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Stephenie, Pearce. I was afraid of this when discussion came up of people turning it off to help cutting acrylic... Everyone's human so people will forget to turn it back on. Not worth the risk of burning down the space [1/24/2018 4:34 PM] canibalcrab But it doesn't help cut acrylic? [1/24/2018 4:35 PM] stephenie. Beautiful clear edges [1/24/2018 4:35 PM] canibalcrab Power and speed combo does the same for me [1/24/2018 4:35 PM] merissa4308 Someone said it does. I have no first hand experience with that [1/24/2018 4:36 PM] canibalcrab And that's from using the one we have at poly now. Mostly turning the air down will help with paper stuff [1/24/2018 4:36 PM] stephenie. @MotoPilot gave me a demonstration. What settings do you recommend, @pearce ? [1/24/2018 4:37 PM] canibalcrab Different per machine. I couldn't give you numbers based on mine [1/24/2018 4:37 PM] stephenie. understood [1/24/2018 4:37 PM] canibalcrab And mine change over time [1/24/2018 4:38 PM] canibalcrab But it still sounds like it was turned down way too low [1/24/2018 4:38 PM] merissa4308 That's why we should always stress test cuts [1/24/2018 4:38 PM] canibalcrab You should still have enough air flow to clear the nozzle [1/24/2018 4:39 PM] merissa4308 Pearce what psi do you keep your air at? [1/24/2018 4:39 PM] canibalcrab There's also the fact that we are using a 130w tube for stuff that people should be using lower wattage for [1/24/2018 4:39 PM] canibalcrab I'll get psi later, James won't be up yet [1/24/2018 4:39 PM] merissa4308 👍 [1/24/2018 4:40 PM] canibalcrab The analogy I use is scalpel work with a chainsaw [1/24/2018 4:40 PM] merissa4308 Couldnt find recommendation from thunder [1/24/2018 4:42 PM] canibalcrab I used to keep the single thunder between 20-40 I think [1/24/2018 4:51 PM] merissa4308 @AGr what's the air assist setting currently? [1/24/2018 4:56 PM] canibalcrab Back when I made these badges I had initially planned on using the thunder for all parts of it. There's a huge difference between the orange panel and the rest of them because I found that that lower wattage zing gave much better results for edges and fine rastering {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405858366934482964/JPEG_20180124_165423.jpg?ex=67b9048f&is=67b7b30f&hm=3cb05534ce764bda2642a90e36cb20ba575386ab3588c0f512d08796f46b1f31& [1/24/2018 4:57 PM] canibalcrab That's just as the zing sits. No removing safeties [1/24/2018 4:57 PM] agr0090 15 last I saw [1/24/2018 5:01 PM] agr0090 I think someone turned it down from 20-25 I had it at, also that is a cheap regulator above all 4 lines, dont know if the regulator has a cfm limit (if psi at nozzle would drop if all 4 lasers are going at once) [1/24/2018 5:04 PM] canibalcrab I should also add that we don't have a huge air tank so the poly laser uses the little compressor that came with the machine [1/24/2018 6:15 PM] canibalcrab Welp {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405878337492221962/JPEG_20180124_181530.jpg?ex=67b91728&is=67b7c5a8&hm=16f8a9735e6385f55610ac9bb9869ba6c7c29c9522c7359788e0caf8657d3dfb& [1/24/2018 6:15 PM] canibalcrab It caught fire at some point [1/24/2018 6:16 PM] canibalcrab Annnnd it's cracked {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405878602714972170/JPEG_20180124_181621.jpg?ex=67b91767&is=67b7c5e7&hm=8471203b3aa0a104fd8bf5f37c46bfe3628206529ab14ab91b76d7af939b6036& [1/24/2018 6:16 PM] stephenie. Spare parts need ordering? [1/24/2018 6:17 PM] canibalcrab Air still flows through. No holes. But this part should never be this close to flame. (The air pushes the fire to the back of the cuts) [1/24/2018 6:19 PM] stephenie. Surely it's not operational? [1/24/2018 6:22 PM] canibalcrab Nope. Will be later {Reactions} dms [1/24/2018 6:23 PM] stephenie. fyi...@Lady L has not added Donner and Blitzen to Status Board, so can't update that. [1/24/2018 6:28 PM] canibalcrab 7 replacement lenses remaining {Reactions} 😀 [1/24/2018 6:29 PM] canibalcrab New air connection installed [1/24/2018 6:29 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405881890625683477/JPEG_20180124_182939.jpg?ex=67b91a77&is=67b7c8f7&hm=8c79ffd96ab7426f01b5ad734ceac74b0fcc14cba336e605ad1f950765075cbc& [1/24/2018 6:30 PM] stephenie. How many spares of those left? [1/24/2018 6:30 PM] canibalcrab 1 [1/24/2018 6:30 PM] canibalcrab I took it off the wide mouth holder [1/24/2018 6:31 PM] canibalcrab Suggest we remove this connection from the laser and replace with non adjustable {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/405882368461635584/JPEG_20180124_183134.jpg?ex=67b91ae9&is=67b7c969&hm=13521b2c0f4d534ce6a6ed1dbb1424a7ac05046617cbb892c4c99416e0a035d7& [1/24/2018 6:35 PM] canibalcrab Donner cuts, no smoke, no fire {Reactions} dms [1/24/2018 7:19 PM] stephenie. Once again, we owe you @pearce . [1/24/2018 8:13 PM] merissa4308 Yes, much appreciated! [1/24/2018 9:25 PM] merissa4308 Stephenie when yall reopened the air assist earlier was it fully closed? [1/24/2018 9:27 PM] motopilot_ Cutting acrylic cleanly really needs air assist turned almost to zero. The issue is remembering to turn it back on. Need to brainstorm on some way to remind people who turn it off to turn it back on again when they're done. Might also need to add "check air assist" to training and a "pre-laser checklist." A two-sided sign perhaps that you turn over and back depending on whether it is on or off? Maybe something affixed to the valve to indicate that air assist is off? (an indicator that is easy to see?) Or perhaps something similar to a "remove before flight" flag that reminds you to turn it back on once you've turned it off? [1/24/2018 9:34 PM] merissa4308 I've always been satisfied with my cuts/etches on acrylic with our current system. [1/24/2018 9:36 PM] merissa4308 The risk of fire and damaging our equipment is just too great in my opinion [1/24/2018 9:37 PM] merissa4308 With ~800 laser users, it's hard to add a step to the process to ensure safe laser use each time [1/24/2018 9:41 PM] motopilot_ All equipment can/will be damaged by lack of training and communication about proper usage. If you want to dumb the machine down to the least common denominator, it isn't very useful for those who want to use it for what it was intended for and to get good results. [1/24/2018 9:42 PM] motopilot_ When planes crash, they don't stop flying. You learn from what happend, create new training and new procedures to avoid the same thing from happening again, and press onward. [1/24/2018 9:49 PM] merissa4308 I'd recommend you attend the next committee meeting. It can be a topic of discussion there [1/24/2018 9:49 PM] motopilot_ Today's laser training materials don't even MENTION Air Assist, or why it is important in the first place. It is a critical thing to get right when cutting anything! [1/24/2018 9:49 PM] motopilot_ Happy to. [1/24/2018 9:49 PM] merissa4308 I think it's not mentioned because users should not be adjusting it [1/24/2018 9:50 PM] merissa4308 it all predates me though, so I'm just going off assumption [1/24/2018 9:50 PM] merissa4308 it definitely all needs updating, but what I'm saying is that we don't have a very effective way to retrain all the currently trained laser users [1/24/2018 10:21 PM] agr0090 https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Fitting-Tough-Straight-Connector/dp/B00E1GP5HC [1/24/2018 10:22 PM] agr0090 could replace the current valve on the air assist line [1/24/2018 10:24 PM] canibalcrab yep thats all we need [1/24/2018 10:24 PM] agr0090 Wait, it might be 6mm, I remember its the metric slightly less than 1/4 [1/24/2018 10:25 PM] agr0090 https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Pneumatic-Straight-Connectors-Fittings/dp/B009ERTKHE [1/24/2018 10:26 PM] motopilot_ Before we all knee jerk this thing... let's all sit down and talk in person about what the best action is. If you do this, the next person is just going to turn off the air at the regulator, thereby turning off air assist on 3 machines and you'll have an even bigger problem. [1/24/2018 10:26 PM] agr0090 There are likely some 6mm to 1/4npt fittings under table right now if someone wanted to use a 1/4 npt female coupler tonight [1/24/2018 10:26 PM] canibalcrab no we shouldnt be adjusting the air flow [1/24/2018 10:29 PM] motopilot_ and the person who turned off air assist on donner should have turned it back on. Air flow is DESIGNED to be adjusted on the machines becuase different materials need a different setting. That's why there is a valve in the first place. Someone's improper use of the machine (forgetting to turn it back on) is the issue. removing the valve solves one problem, but potentially creates 2 more, so you should think carefully about the possible downstream effects of doing that. Just sayin... [1/24/2018 10:31 PM] canibalcrab weve already proved that its more problematic than its worth [1/24/2018 10:31 PM] motopilot_ with one fire in several years? [1/24/2018 10:33 PM] canibalcrab its not the fire thats the issue [1/24/2018 10:33 PM] canibalcrab the lens was destroyed [1/24/2018 10:34 PM] merissa4308 umm... any fire is a big issue! [1/24/2018 10:34 PM] merissa4308 doesn't take any time at all to get out of control [1/24/2018 10:34 PM] merissa4308 if someone isn't paying attention [1/24/2018 10:37 PM] canibalcrab if you want lower air assist you should use the zing [1/24/2018 10:37 PM] motopilot_ ok, whatever. There will be more fires, air assist valve or not. You budget for a few damaged lenses and move on. I still think the trianing is weak, could be vastly improved, and a few "reminder signs" on the lasers would go a long way towards educating people about the dangers of the lasers, and the things they need to pay attention to in order to avoid damage to the machines. You can put training wheels on the equipment all day long, and eventually someone is still going to find a way to break something. And if one fire is out of control.... let's see if this happens again this year before jumping to conclusions. [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] canibalcrab you are effectivly turning off a saftey [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] motopilot_ and you're effectively saying don't cut acrylic on the thunder [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] canibalcrab wrong [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] motopilot_ I'm out. [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] canibalcrab i cut acrylic on the thunder professionally [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] merissa4308 pearce probably has more experience cutting acrylic at the space than any other member [1/24/2018 10:38 PM] canibalcrab my thunder* [1/25/2018 12:46 AM] stephenie. It can well be worth remembering that laser cutting can fail in a multitude of ways. Even with air assist running fires can and will happen. https://hackaday.com/2016/05/31/how-to-fail-at-laser-cutting/ {Embed} Donald Papp https://hackaday.com/2016/05/31/how-to-fail-at-laser-cutting/ How to Fail at Laser Cutting Laser cutters are CNC power tools, which means an operator uploads a job digitally and then pushes START to let the machine do all the work while they lie back in a hammock sipping a margarita, occ… https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/tR7f7YdHAqzdqQyxfRT04heVvhIXaHPVh-wfKxBD54E/%3Fw%3D1200/https/hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/laser.jpg [1/25/2018 12:47 AM] stephenie. "The risk of fire is never zero, even on jobs and materials that have previously run without problems. These failures cannot really be predicted and occur with little or no warning" [1/25/2018 10:03 AM] clone1018 wow such light [1/25/2018 10:03 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406116936775368705/Screen_Shot_2018-01-25_at_10.03.20_AM.png?ex=67b94c9f&is=67b7fb1f&hm=fce1a2e3439c6e762e62d0a01c27f17f236ddab852136ce5c2c1887e79e84859& [1/25/2018 10:27 AM] agr0090 It's not the same color temp, do you have more of the led replacements? [1/25/2018 10:32 AM] clone1018 The electrician could not get the LED tubes we have to work in that fixture [1/25/2018 11:18 AM] tomthm9900 Since we are have issues with the air assist pressure, I suggest we add something to the training materials pre-checklist. Along with checking that the CO2 nozzles works, always check that the air assist pressure is x. [1/25/2018 1:22 PM] stephenie. Laser Basics training materials does not have an explicit pre-checklist. I added a "Prep for fire safety" item to top of General Procedures. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SufIBiCeqGhcpOA9MKTTIdf4LPZ_xQiR8p3Mq1Kb-5k/ {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SufIBiCeqGhcpOA9MKTTIdf4LPZ_xQiR8p3Mq1Kb-5k/ Laser Class 2017.11.20 DMS’ Laser Basics v2017.11.26 Welcome! A few quick reminders about Laser Basics. Always be safe. If you’re not sure on what a procedure is, never hesitate to ask. The info contained in this document can be found in the laser area. It is contained in a blue folder. It also has troubleshooting... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/JiGrSwtgXT5DQV73e3Esdk8zbTlSXRltiRiar8uestc/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/r13ztRu4-R7l-Vs4nMQRbwTFGZfQjZDg_IOw4KoqHnX05P4PhcgMaVDG2eWs755DRBFheg%3Dw1200-h630-p [1/25/2018 1:23 PM] stephenie. I threw up a PSA slideshow on the Chromecast last night. Improving it to be more educational today. [1/25/2018 2:12 PM] agr0090 @LukeStrickland What is the size and tube spec in that fixture currently? What is color temp of the other led tubes? [1/25/2018 2:22 PM] clone1018 4ft T8 5000K 1800 Lumen LED is the other bulbs in the space [1/25/2018 2:23 PM] clone1018 I don't know what he put in that fixture, I'll be there tonight and can look at it [1/25/2018 2:59 PM] stephenie. Here are the PSA slides. Our members do pay attention to the screen. This is the easiest way to reach already-trained users. Currently, these are running as an album. I've halted the Showcase temporarily. The PSA slides are also included in the Showcase, when we've lowered the DEFCON level. Please speak up if edits are in order. https://photos.app.goo.gl/gKiGsD2AFU2S3ALh2 {Embed} https://photos.app.goo.gl/gKiGsD2AFU2S3ALh2 PSA 6 new photos added to shared album https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/QsLM8OXsPdP_Kz8gtu9mLkKsHEH7lvvSxR-GDcgu61A/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wp_ZHn7ctqpB24g_4l563jOiwa6cn_MOmx3gJtE12u5mkyU1BuaSIWMjHmZUsBtIsW4lhvxvMlOzKf7LWsNlYmnP64MniE4eUU4T0B3BDJ52Y51Sb2Q-kGNZwdXTzPE6SMF-jYEGaQ%3Dw600-h315-p-k [1/25/2018 3:33 PM] tomthm9900 Good idea (and job) on the PSA slides! [1/25/2018 3:41 PM] agr0090 Too many words, how about this picture, with text "If there is a visible flame, stop cutting, you are doing something wrong." {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406201886673469450/burnt-laser-arcbotics-com.png?ex=67b8f2fc&is=67b7a17c&hm=bf65da0f20382f870f5d39367a26cf595fa618d1514893478b017e4eb88d377f& [1/25/2018 3:43 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202567006355456/laser_cutter_fire.png?ex=67b8f39e&is=67b7a21e&hm=be9a9bf309a295573baeda936a7d8ca8828fc6fa6ea2c51fa7860c585e1e6cb1& [1/25/2018 3:44 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202603303862301/f03.png?ex=67b8f3a7&is=67b7a227&hm=36fcf745903cdcb98588a494fd7a04a1695a57cde3bb788b0858a0fc8aa1094a& [1/25/2018 3:44 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202683360411648/201620-201.png?ex=67b8f3ba&is=67b7a23a&hm=eb05e6ce02ce8583904775a5ae415da8bb041d3609f043ce546e8fcb9efbaa53& [1/25/2018 3:44 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406202749017915392/3227283_1423107037.png?ex=67b8f3ca&is=67b7a24a&hm=8c03cfeb4a7a5dd651147e9a277be377ae5d31b31dc1609e5d8ea8b6fe5b5fde& [1/25/2018 3:45 PM] agr0090 This is a well made guide http://www.tcmaker.org/wiki/images/c/ce/Basic_Laser_Packet.pdf [1/25/2018 4:32 PM] stephenie. I understand about too many words, which I lifted from our Laser Basic's training guide. The beauty of a slideshow...we can h ave both the wordy slide and your excellent picture collection (which reminds me of the scary videos shown during Driver's Ed class back in my day!). I've captured them and will incorporate them ASAP. [1/25/2018 4:40 PM] stephenie. Made a trip to the Space. I've revised my walk-through spiel. Not only greeting people, asking about th eir laser job, and checking the queue, I'm also conducting a safety check. I tell the members what I'm doing and why and make them part of the solution: verifying the fire extinguisher's location, checking the valve position, and testing the CO2 hose. [1/25/2018 5:10 PM] merissa4308 Just getting caught up with today's discussion [1/25/2018 5:11 PM] merissa4308 @LukeStrickland thank you so much for handling the lighting improvement! [1/25/2018 5:12 PM] merissa4308 @stephenie I have some suggestions on the psa but will discuss with you tomorrow if we can find some time after the meeting? [1/25/2018 5:12 PM] merissa4308 (plan to duck out of the meeting at least after they get to our chair approval item, then work in the laser area some) [1/25/2018 5:13 PM] stephenie. Sounds fine. In person often best. {Reactions} 👍 [1/25/2018 5:35 PM] stephenie. @merissa what work do you have in mind in the laser area? Or is it a personal project? [1/25/2018 5:40 PM] merissa4308 Bringing in the stuff I discussed purchasing last week... Chairs and stools, shelves for over laser worktable for a place to display lasered items, then checking computer performance and general area cleanup [1/25/2018 5:41 PM] stephenie. Link to shelving? [1/25/2018 5:44 PM] merissa4308 About to be driving... Will pull it up in amazon later and share {Reactions} 👍 [1/25/2018 10:55 PM] clone1018 there's some LED bulbs on the laser table you're welcome to use Brandon {Reactions} 👍 [1/25/2018 11:14 PM] stephenie. @merissa Stan was telling me that Laser procured its own computers. When you update the Additional Documentaton with the new shelving, would you also add documentation on our computers and monitors? [1/26/2018 12:36 AM] agr0090 posted 11/14/2017, search in:laser dell [1/26/2018 1:01 AM] talkers @AGr#0090 got link? I searched here, Talk, and the wiki. No luck. [1/26/2018 9:04 AM] clone1018 @john a gorman does this work for you? https://discordapp.com/channels/300062029559889931/300063130527203328?jump=380065483795333131 {Embed} https://discordapp.com/channels/300062029559889931/300063130527203328?jump=380065483795333131 Discord - Free voice and text chat for gamers Step up your game with a modern voice & text chat app. Crystal clear voice, multiple server and channel support, mobile apps, and more. Get your free server now! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HfR2VUvbtgDrYRhtJYtbVRG8ptOUXl0szXSCAOAiC_8/https/discordapp.com/assets/ee7c382d9257652a88c8f7b7f22a994d.png [1/26/2018 9:12 AM] merissa4308 Laser bought the two computers on the back wall, the thunder computer predates me, and the donner computer was installed by infrastructure last month when the old zing computer crapped out. Stan would have to provide information on that one as I don't have any details. [1/26/2018 9:13 AM] merissa4308 Will be figuring out if the shelves work as envisioned before adding to wiki [1/26/2018 1:37 PM] agr0090 Apparently its not possible to link to a past message in discord, {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/406533105726259222/unknown.png?ex=67b8d5f5&is=67b78475&hm=cfefc56a8072d64084669a762cb24cbb1f78f4ca7531ceab2878e1eb61b8213e& [1/26/2018 2:01 PM] talkers Thanks @AGr . I had tried searching "Laser dell" in here. [1/26/2018 2:01 PM] talkers Thanks @merissa too for the info [1/26/2018 3:37 PM] stephenie. That's very helpful. Thanks. [1/26/2018 4:31 PM] talkers Aaron got the error Illustrator license expired on Blitzen. [1/26/2018 4:47 PM] talkers The zing is making a grating noise on raising the bed. John, who makes the boogie wood glasses, says the bed doesn't go as low as it used to before the move. His jig no longer fits without removing the bed. He etches the arms of his glasses. I'll try to look at it this weekend. [1/26/2018 4:49 PM] merissa4308 Relocating it would not have done anything to the bed level [1/26/2018 4:53 PM] talkers No, I don't think so either. I said it more for the time frame [1/26/2018 4:55 PM] talkers I wonder if something is jammed under, or broken on the front right post. It seems to bottom out before the others [1/26/2018 4:59 PM] merissa4308 Hmm maybe. I'll try to remember to look tonight as well [1/26/2018 6:42 PM] stephenie. Stan uninstalled/reinstalled Illustrator. Still got the error on both Zing and Blitzen PCs. He said that makes no sense and he is on it. [1/27/2018 12:09 AM] merissa4308 Congrats to @stephenie! She's been named new chairperson of our awesome committee, and I know she'll do a great job leading us. Thanks for your service to DMS Stephenie :) [1/27/2018 1:33 AM] stephenie. And thank you @merissa for your service to Laser. To the committee: tonight we were conferring in Laser. I had Merissa turn around and just look, really look, at the sight of the fruits of her effort. A major military maneuver, getting those new lasers. [1/27/2018 8:16 PM] clone1018 Just FYI don't know if it matters but the blower for thunder kicked on for a minute and kicked off [1/27/2018 8:17 PM] stephenie. Did you hear it or was it reported by a member? [1/27/2018 8:18 PM] clone1018 Sorry forgot to finish my message.no one is at the lasers. I'm at the work tables eating and noticed it [1/27/2018 8:18 PM] clone1018 Walked over and everything looked fine [1/27/2018 8:22 PM] stephenie. Understood. Good know you observed it firsthand. Making note of it in a log. This is not the first time this has happened, right? [1/27/2018 8:23 PM] clone1018 I personally know nothing {Reactions} 😁 [1/27/2018 8:28 PM] canibalcrab It's a known issue. It does it from time to time but not when the blowers are on [1/27/2018 8:29 PM] canibalcrab Actively used*? [1/27/2018 8:35 PM] stephenie. Thank you @pearce . [1/27/2018 8:46 PM] clone1018 Just happened again [1/27/2018 8:46 PM] clone1018 Good to know it's known [1/28/2018 3:11 AM] talkers Seems to be about every 30-40 minutes the blowers will kick on for about 30-60 seconds. [1/28/2018 7:53 PM] stephenie. Thank you to @tomthm for notifying us of the low CO2 canister. To @StanSimmons for showing me were the full canisters are stowed (in electrical room behind a door). To @LukeStrickland and @somecallmery for performing the change out. [1/28/2018 7:54 PM] stephenie. We have an empty now that needs a pick up/refill from AirGas. @merissa, what is the procedure? [1/28/2018 7:55 PM] stephenie. And does the cost come out of Laser's funds? [1/28/2018 8:09 PM] merissa4308 I never had to replace a tank so I'm not sure [1/28/2018 8:10 PM] merissa4308 The control box that controls the blower can have voltage leaks that will trip the blower for 30 seconds [1/28/2018 8:11 PM] merissa4308 The control box is what we had to do to work around the tl timer board that's always had issues [1/28/2018 8:12 PM] merissa4308 The blower coming on shouldnt harm anything, other than seeming like we have a ghost in laser 😁 [1/28/2018 8:30 PM] stephenie. Thanks for the prompt reply. Plan B is to check w/ Metal Shop. Stan has the contact info and account number in the admin wiki, which helps. I've documented the change out steps on the wiki. [1/28/2018 8:38 PM] stephenie. We'll be able to track CO2 consumption now. [1/28/2018 8:38 PM] merissa4308 Yeah I think Chuck will know since they replace tanks more frequently in metal shop {Reactions} 👍 [1/28/2018 8:41 PM] merissa4308 Brandon took a pic of the dial during a maintenance day. On Dec 5th the tank had 650 psi [1/28/2018 8:44 PM] merissa4308 @pearce can you update the laser committee chair to @stephenie ? [1/28/2018 8:47 PM] canibalcrab Can later [1/28/2018 8:52 PM] merissa4308 Thanks! [1/29/2018 12:12 AM] talkers @merissa I really tried to add a "ghost in the machine" image to my post last night, lol {Reactions} 👻 [1/29/2018 12:35 AM] canibalcrab @stephenie you now have the @laser chair role, and @ committee chair role, use #committee_chairs chat to talk with other chairs and not have extra comments from non chairs [1/29/2018 12:38 AM] stephenie. Thank you @pearce [1/29/2018 8:51 AM] clone1018 Stephanie, Lee in metal shop recommended writing EMPTY on the bottle with chalk. Seemed like a good idea [1/29/2018 1:03 PM] stephenie. I marked the shroud before we moved it to the back wall. Will pick up some chalk for future use. [1/29/2018 1:18 PM] andrew5152 @stephenie Although Lee did, in fact, say "chalk", I might suggest just 'borrowing" the soapstone metal markers from the Welding toolchest. There are usually several pieces of it floating around, and it works very well for this purpose. Of course, maybe there's some reason NOT to do this, but since it wipes off fairly easily, I can't imagine why that would be objectionable. Of course, buying your own chalk is perfectly fine, too... [1/29/2018 1:19 PM] stephenie. Thanks for the tip! [1/29/2018 1:49 PM] stephenie. Team Laser, I'm keeping a running list of Action Items on our gmail account (the one set up to archive the chromecast photos). Anyone with the link (http://bit.ly/2BCfe5h fo) can make suggestions in the Google Doc. Don't panic when you see the length. If I don't write things down, I forget. People are coming at me with issues and ideas. My poor brain runneth over. Some of these items will form Sunday's meeting agenda. If you particularly want to discuss an item, start here on Discord and we'll carry it over if need be. In anticipation of a noisy warehouse, I grabbed the conference room; other rooms already taken...yikes! I run a tight meeting and am tough on excess chatter. Anything over an hour can be continued while we perform maintenance. Less than an hour? Woo-hoo...less talk, more work, go home early! Now for the important part...John has put in a request for street tacos to be our fuel of choice on Sunday. If I call in an order to El Paisa, will someone volunteer to do pick-up? {Embed} http://bit.ly/2BCfe5h Action Items February Maintenance Day/Committee Meeting: February 4, 2018, 11pm Open Items: Physical Plant Ship off Lasersaur. Merissa is waiting on logistics from NC. Fire Safety Checklist: I’m thinking a simple checklist as wallpaper on the monitors would be a good place to start. Clay’s checklist? Jack ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0bCQZ3maus43jlesZJK7Ls4SneveJ2i5JbqDWs4_WMA/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/sY9xVsp_zbMrgi2P5M6vIEyYfifxsez-IbI-hrwKoPDxKM_V2BS2E2bY_baQblwdDgUMBg%3Dw1200-h630-p [1/29/2018 2:17 PM] davidkessinger9707 Maybe some Laser etched wood tags they read EMPTY with magnet on back {Reactions} dms [1/29/2018 6:59 PM] alerho Please do not buy food with committee funds. [1/29/2018 7:08 PM] stephenie. @Alex Rhodes Many people have told me that. Thank you for the additional reminder. [1/29/2018 7:09 PM] stephenie. @David Kessinger Please add that warning to your committee chair handbook. [1/29/2018 7:13 PM] alerho Thank you. [1/29/2018 7:13 PM] canibalcrab thats one of the ones thats worth repeating [1/30/2018 2:28 AM] talkers The left Y belt on Blitzen was very loose. I could easily jiggle the tightening clamps by hand. It's fixed now. [1/30/2018 2:32 AM] talkers Zing bed continues to be a problem. I temp fixed it by leaving the bed screw on the front right post slightly loose. Tightening it binds the machine. hopefully Sunday we can look at it and find a long term solution. @gbeauw [1/30/2018 2:33 AM] talkers The bed is level though [1/30/2018 7:33 AM] stephenie. And you vacuumed Zing, too, while the bed was out. Thank you, John, for tackling this. [1/30/2018 9:08 AM] gbeauw @john a gorman would you give me the details on the nature of the Zing bed problem and I'll call their TS and find out what can be done. [1/30/2018 2:50 PM] merissa4308 Lasersaur shipping almost set, just need to set preferred pick up time. Is anyone available to be there for pick up? Maybe @stephenie or @LukeStrickland ? If so we can try for time convenient to the volunteer's schedule. [1/30/2018 2:50 PM] merissa4308 If not I can try to take a morning off work soon. [1/30/2018 2:51 PM] clone1018 If its a scheduled time I only work less than two blocks away, but I can't take a morning off right now [1/30/2018 3:01 PM] stephenie. @David Kessinger - have all the Board's stipulations been met re: Lasersaur donation? [1/30/2018 4:48 PM] merissa4308 Loading dock needs to be cleared. Guess I'll plan to take off work so we can get this going. [1/31/2018 10:40 AM] stephenie. Laser Maintenance Day & Committee Meeting: https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/5022 Starts this Sunday at 11am in the conference room. fyi [1/31/2018 10:47 AM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/408302205796614144/IMG_20180131_012547.jpg?ex=67b956cf&is=67b8054f&hm=b73b36e45212f0038fe3761c4b37866b541a75a0aafe4e6e42394446cb1ad1d4& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/408302205796614147/IMG_20180131_012532.jpg?ex=67b956cf&is=67b8054f&hm=964711f16288e4bf7a8d6af8628932fbb236b919535f6c9ef4ad512092f50dc5& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/408302206522097664/IMG_20180131_023253.jpg?ex=67b956cf&is=67b8054f&hm=e1ff554ae5735836e9daa73f2ed3d1f01833138d7df07591334071f7d675d5d8& [1/31/2018 10:48 AM] talkers I added visual aids for the air assist. let's see if that helps folks. {Reactions} 🤞 👍 (2) 💯 [2/1/2018 6:06 PM] clone1018 @AGr#0090 I want to replicate a couple more of your air quality sensors. Did you make any changes to the hardware from your previous build? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dms-air-monitor-group-project/11106?u=lukestrickland {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dms-air-monitor-group-project/11106?u=lukestrickland DMS Air Monitor Group Project Would anyone like to participate in building and deploying raspberry pi based air monitoring sensors throughout DMS? The board approved funding to build 3 devices for $300. Setting up the sensors is only half the project, then we need to do interesting things with the data being collected. I built a prototype that is currently running in woodshop, my proposed parts list includes temp/humidity and particulate matter sensors: sds 021 laser PM sensor: 35.00 raspberry pi 3: 35.00 dht22 temp: 10.... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [2/1/2018 6:10 PM] clone1018 Oh i guess brandon is gone [2/1/2018 7:49 PM] stephenie. I saw that he was gone, too. @merissa , can you get an answer from Brandon? [2/1/2018 8:03 PM] merissa4308 All is the same @LukeStrickland [2/1/2018 8:04 PM] merissa4308 Data should still be sent dallas.ms/air [2/1/2018 8:05 PM] merissa4308 Metal shop and 2 in laser area {Reactions} 👍 (2) [2/1/2018 8:21 PM] stephenie. @merissa The Donner sensor is labeled DMS Woodshop. Is it in Laser or Woodshop? It's average PM 2.5/10 are significantly higher than the Metal Shop or Laser Thunder sensors, which makes me think it has been installed in Woodshop. [2/1/2018 8:28 PM] merissa4308 It was previously in woodshop and often got unplugged, so he moved it to laser [2/1/2018 8:30 PM] stephenie. About when did he move it? [2/1/2018 8:33 PM] merissa4308 When we installed the laser 12/11 [2/1/2018 8:35 PM] stephenie. I see it now. Would you ask Brandon to update the page header to Laser (Donner) instead of DMS Woodshop? [2/1/2018 9:09 PM] clone1018 Only DMS admins have access to modify the main dallasmakerspace.org site [2/1/2018 9:09 PM] clone1018 Alex knows best [2/1/2018 9:12 PM] stephenie. I'm talking about the header on the m2x page https://m2x.att.com/d/0349cdda9597ff4a8f1d5773c0d1859b. [2/1/2018 9:12 PM] stephenie. It's not a DMS .org page. [2/1/2018 9:21 PM] clone1018 oh sorry! [2/1/2018 9:25 PM] stephenie. no worries. am grateful that you're the sort of person who replies promptly. thanks for all you do. [2/2/2018 10:35 AM] motopilot_ Just a thought. Seems we could make the alarm part of this ourselves. https://www.ulsinc.com/discover-uls-innovations/fire-suppression [2/2/2018 10:37 AM] motopilot_ or just buy some of these: http://thunderlaser.co.uk/laser-options/heat-alarm-detector/ {Embed} GreenImp http://thunderlaser.co.uk/laser-options/heat-alarm-detector/ Heat Alarm Detector - Thunder Laser Heat Alarm Detector https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/agNV64TB92t_Wf4WMKVUuNNzOLTkkLawyB0Dhhdv-cQ/http/thunderlaser.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/heat-alarm-detector.png [2/2/2018 12:12 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/409048531127762954/Screenshot_20180202-121233.png?ex=67b96ae1&is=67b81961&hm=c65824ad2374ad84c360f4c011ffaada659b73917d6fcc73afe9c1416077a487& [2/2/2018 12:13 PM] talkers The Brits get all the good Thunder stuffs [2/2/2018 12:13 PM] talkers That heat detector does look good [2/2/2018 12:13 PM] stephenie. The Brits' lasers are completely different. Which is odd. [2/2/2018 12:16 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/409049543456325632/Screenshot_20180202-121639.png?ex=67b96bd2&is=67b81a52&hm=d92bf68906fd2616b5914e509dfded381ae6f30a3de2b517b8fa3eeccb562054& [2/2/2018 12:17 PM] talkers Ours does have a better colour scheme [2/2/2018 12:26 PM] canibalcrab *Cuts 3"x5" items one at a time* [2/2/2018 2:11 PM] stephenie. On the American site: http://www.thunderlaser.com/features/heat-alarm-detector-2.html [2/2/2018 2:42 PM] stephenie. Inquiries are in to Thunder (heat sensor, air-pressure sensor, rotary, and spare parts costs) and PhotoGrav (licensing information). {Reactions} 💪 (2) [2/2/2018 7:18 PM] gbeauw Talked to Epilog today. Have info on repair of Zing bed and Z-Axis drive. Will implement on Sunday. [2/2/2018 7:19 PM] talkers Most excellent [2/2/2018 7:21 PM] gbeauw Hopefully we don't need to order a new Z-axis belt. They didn't seem to think that would be the issue. Just dirt and slack belt is most probable cause. {Reactions} dms [2/2/2018 9:57 PM] stephenie. Heat sensor is $60; rotary axis $580; yes we can get a replacement air assist connector. Waiting on air pressure sensor price. [2/4/2018 12:03 AM] stephenie. @merissa hung the display shelving and tool holders above the worktable. [2/4/2018 4:09 AM] merissa4308 Actually Brandon did while he was working on a project today, but I hope they get used as intended [2/4/2018 9:49 AM] stephenie. Already started moving tools and samples to them. Definitely more visible. {Reactions} 👍 [2/4/2018 10:47 AM] merissa4308 Going to be a couple mins late... Had to turn back and get stools i forgot [2/4/2018 11:07 AM] stephenie. In the conference room. quieter [2/4/2018 3:18 PM] .somecallmery https://www.mcmaster.com/#3204A59 {Embed} https://www.mcmaster.com/ McMaster-Carr McMaster-Carr is the complete source for everything in your plant. 98% of the products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ur246LKAS9UHNZ7qLD9mo8suN6Jca-AYJavnM6TrGxM/https/www1.mcmaster.com/mvB/gfx/mcm_logo_hires.png [2/4/2018 3:35 PM] gbeauw Zing Maintenance Performed. - Z-Axis Drive in bottom cleaned and belts checked. - Lens and Mirrors cleaned. Vacuumed out dust and debris. Leveled Bed. Greased Z-Axis Jack Screws. Aligned X & Y Guides on Bed and also Matrix Box to be aligned with Laser. Returned to service. [2/4/2018 3:36 PM] gbeauw NOTE: There appears that there is some misconceptions about how to "Level the Bed". The four Phillips Screws in the corner of the Bed have "nothing" to do with Bed Adjustment. They should be tight at all times as they are what holds the Bed to the lift mechanism. [2/4/2018 3:39 PM] gbeauw The proper way to Level the Bed requires a 3/32" Allen Wrench ("L" type) to loosen four clamps so that the plastic collars can be turned to raise/lower the corners of the bed. Please contact me if you are a Zing Maintainer and would like a copy of the correct procedure to Level the Bed that we received from Epilog. The bottom line is if Leveling the Bed wasn't a PITA, you aren't using the correct procedure or tools. Happy Lasering. 😃 [2/4/2018 3:41 PM] gbeauw Let me know if we still have problems with the Z-Axis (aka Focus) on the Zing making "grinding noises" or otherwise causing problems when trying to raise or lower the bed. {Reactions} dms [2/4/2018 3:42 PM] gbeauw Thanks to Bradley and Todd who assisted with the Zing Maintenance today. 👊 [Fist Bump] [2/4/2018 3:52 PM] talkers Thanks @gbeauw Brad and Todd. Please shoot me a copy. [2/4/2018 7:15 PM] kriskat309685 @teamlaser very proud of this group. Love what I am seeing and keep it up. You guys rock! {Reactions} 👏 [2/4/2018 7:44 PM] stephenie. Team Laser today was @JoshW , @gbeauw , @somecallmery , Brady Pamplin (@bpamplin on Talk, not yet on Discord), @merissa , @MotoPilot , Todd Bloom (@bloom on Talk), Kati Peters (@kati on Talk), and Evan, with special guest @StanSimmons . Thank you for coming out on Super Bowl Sunday to keep the machines in good shape. Lots of good work and good humor all around. [2/4/2018 8:30 PM] joshw0263 🙂 [2/5/2018 10:35 AM] talkers Thank you all [2/5/2018 4:19 PM] stephenie. @StanSimmons has installed a 30-trial copy of LightBurn on the Jump Server, in collaboration with the manufacturer. He is asking that we test it from the Jump to see if that is a good repository. If you have any issues...go see Stan. [2/5/2018 4:20 PM] stephenie. FYI: LightBurn is kicking us a discounted license and a promo code for our members to get discounted subscriptions, if we choose to purchase. NOT there yet. Test, test, test. Put your feedback here. [2/5/2018 5:29 PM] stansimmons2031 The licensing is being a bit weird, and appears to be going by user, not machine... I have reported it and they are looking into that issue. Please test anyway. They want us as a customer. {Reactions} 👌 [2/5/2018 10:41 PM] .somecallmery http://wiki.lvl1.org/Inkscape_Extension_to_Render_a_Living_Hinge {Embed} http://wiki.lvl1.org/Inkscape_Extension_to_Render_a_Living_Hinge Inkscape Extension to Render a Living Hinge [2/6/2018 12:04 AM] stephenie. Helped Finance count its cash deposits today. Laser's January and February cash deposits total $956.00. New on-site bookkeeper arrives this week, so that's the last cash count Finance will perform. [2/6/2018 1:20 AM] stephenie. Here's the running list of open and closed Action Items. It's a great way to see Laser's status at any given time. Anyone can type in suggestions, update an item, or add their name to an unclaimed idea and I'll be able to accept the edit with a click. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RpKt46AY-UbctIcSm9UzNQ2gSadPdOZRI6O8VVqJ-gA {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RpKt46AY-UbctIcSm9UzNQ2gSadPdOZRI6O8VVqJ-gA Committee: Action Items Being on this list doesn’t mean it will get done. It means it won’t get forgotten. Name = a volunteer (not an employee) is working on this. Patience. No name = not getting done. Volunteer if it is important to you. Open Items: Operations & Maintenance (Stan) Install Adobe Illustrator on Z... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0bCQZ3maus43jlesZJK7Ls4SneveJ2i5JbqDWs4_WMA/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/sY9xVsp_zbMrgi2P5M6vIEyYfifxsez-IbI-hrwKoPDxKM_V2BS2E2bY_baQblwdDgUMBg%3Dw1200-h630-p [2/6/2018 1:35 AM] canibalcrab BUT MEETINGS! [2/6/2018 7:49 AM] stephenie. LOL. [2/9/2018 5:07 PM] .somecallmery Is it okay for trainers to train and have a member approved for lasers outside of a scheduled class? [2/9/2018 5:15 PM] stephenie. Yes. Anyone requesting one-on-one should offer some sort of compensation to an approved instructor, plus be prepared to wait in the queue or attend during non-peak hours. Lasers cannot be reserved for one-on-one. All of this places a burden on our instructors, hence the value in offering compensation. [2/9/2018 5:18 PM] tomthm9900 Stan will need to add the name to AD so the person get credit for the class. Best done via email or PM to Stan with date and name. {Reactions} 👌 [2/9/2018 5:19 PM] stephenie. Our Laser Basics instructors are @john a gorman and @tomthm as far as I know. Any others? [2/9/2018 5:22 PM] tomthm9900 No others are currently doing classes that I’ve seen. [2/9/2018 7:34 PM] .somecallmery Well, next question. Last class I taught was the one I subbed for Tommy. I think it was in May. Should I shadow a more current instructor before I start teaching again? [2/10/2018 4:51 PM] stephenie. @tomthm is teaching tomorrow at 1:30. Good opportunity? [2/10/2018 7:47 PM] pseudonym01 @john a gorman For your boxes class, what material did you use? Was it just eighth inch plywood? [2/10/2018 9:11 PM] joshw0263 @john a gorman thanks for sharing your knowledge tonight in class it's always a joy to learn from you looking forward to next time. [2/10/2018 10:24 PM] talkers @pseudonym01 yes, 1/8" exactly. [2/10/2018 10:24 PM] talkers @JoshW I am glad you came and got something from the class. Cheers [2/10/2018 10:25 PM] pseudonym01 Awesome, thanks! Definitely second @JoshW [2/10/2018 10:28 PM] talkers @pseudonym01 you are most welcome [2/11/2018 12:27 AM] stephenie. @somecallmery John @john a gorman says since you have been participating in Maintenance Day, you are good to go re: teaching. Go forth and do good works. {Reactions} 💪 [2/11/2018 2:50 PM] stephenie. https://lightburnsoftware.com/blogs/news/lightburn-v0-6-00-new-trace-image-feature {Embed} https://lightburnsoftware.com/blogs/news/lightburn-v0-6-00-new-trace-image-feature LightBurn v0.6.00 - new Trace Image feature! We were going to wait on this for a little bit, but an important bug fix for one of our vendors was needed, and this was ready to go, so: LightBurn now has a Trace Image feature! We recently licensed the Potrace image tracing engine by Icosasoft (the same engine used by InkScape) and it's ready to go - take a look: Images with transparency lose their outline, but we'll get that sorted shortly and it appears to be otherwise solid. We felt the addition of image tracing has moved LightBurn a significant step closer to being https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wggZeG5aMGjfklu20A2tublLrx1_RlJfMlo5JppBi-o/%3Fv%3D1518332176/https/cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2522/3850/articles/Trace_Image_UI-smaller_1200x1200.png [2/12/2018 2:52 PM] merissa4308 LASERSAUR UPDATE! Pick up has been scheduled for tomorrow between 9am and 3pm! [2/12/2018 2:52 PM] merissa4308 Will anyone be at the space during this time who can supervise pick up? [2/12/2018 2:53 PM] stephenie. What is expected in way of supervision? [2/12/2018 2:53 PM] merissa4308 Just make sure they know what to pick up (it's all on the pallet) and they may have to sign [2/12/2018 2:54 PM] merissa4308 Basically just make sure it gets out the door 😄 [2/12/2018 2:54 PM] merissa4308 Sorry for the short notice, just got the call from FCW confirming it's been set up [2/12/2018 2:56 PM] stephenie. I can be there by 10:30am. Stay until 3p. How do we know if NC has paid? So no surprises. [2/12/2018 3:02 PM] merissa4308 I think they had to to get the tracking number [2/12/2018 3:03 PM] merissa4308 I sent a message to the board too. @David Kessinger had said he could be available as well, so hopefully that will cover us {Reactions} dms [2/12/2018 10:05 PM] clone1018 @stephenie @merissa If they use the loading dock there's no problem, however currently the auto bay door is inoperable. [2/12/2018 10:06 PM] merissa4308 Not even manual? [2/12/2018 10:07 PM] clone1018 Not without causing more damage, the tension cable for the left side is broken [2/12/2018 10:09 PM] merissa4308 Eek ok. I think they'll be loading from the dock, but not positive [2/12/2018 10:10 PM] merissa4308 Man crappy timing [2/12/2018 10:10 PM] clone1018 If you must operate it, you need to hold the release, have someone on the chain pulling it along with a minimum of two people lifting [2/12/2018 10:10 PM] clone1018 Make sure someone holds it up while its partially opened. [2/13/2018 1:58 PM] merissa4308 No call yet 😞 has the truck shown up? [2/13/2018 2:14 PM] stephenie. No. [2/13/2018 2:15 PM] stephenie. Anyway for you to reach them? [2/13/2018 2:57 PM] stephenie. @merissa No bill of lading. Trucker won't take shipment. [2/13/2018 2:57 PM] stephenie. David tried reaching you by phone. [2/13/2018 2:57 PM] stephenie. !!! [2/13/2018 3:29 PM] merissa4308 We spoke. FCW contact didnt answer the phone so I don't know when they can get the paperwork to me [2/13/2018 4:57 PM] merissa4308 Spoke with FCW, they were told a bill of lading would come at the end. This process is new to all of us. He's on hold with customer service now to discuss [2/13/2018 5:12 PM] merissa4308 @stephenie or anyone have experience with this kind of shipping/bill of lading? [2/13/2018 5:16 PM] merissa4308 Old Dominion is telling FCW they'll send a blank one for us to fill out [2/13/2018 5:21 PM] merissa4308 They're saying they can reschedule for tomorrow too 😕 [2/13/2018 5:32 PM] stephenie. Here you go. https://www.odfl.com/fillprintforms/PrintableBol.pdf [2/13/2018 5:32 PM] stephenie. I'm not available tomorrow. [2/13/2018 5:35 PM] stephenie. Other forms, just in case. https://www.odfl.com/Landings/fillprintLanding.faces [2/13/2018 5:38 PM] merissa4308 He's supposed to be emailing me more info he's gotten from OD. Instructions about this weren't provided the first time, just the confirmation number I shared [2/13/2018 8:16 PM] davidkessinger9707 We actually had it on the truck and had to remove it. [2/13/2018 8:18 PM] merissa4308 Hate that today was so difficult 😞 Old Dominion didnt give any instruction for FCW/us when scheduling [2/13/2018 8:22 PM] merissa4308 It's rescheduled for tomorrow, putting info together to send to the board again [2/13/2018 8:22 PM] merissa4308 Just want to get it out the door to them [2/13/2018 8:44 PM] davidkessinger9707 here needs to be a printed hard copy on top of the shipment. before OD arrives. [2/13/2018 9:13 PM] stephenie. @merissa will you be able to be here for pickup? [2/13/2018 9:19 PM] merissa4308 Nope, I have a doctor's appointment with a specialist tomorrow... at the doctor all the time lately. [2/13/2018 9:19 PM] merissa4308 Trying to figure things out [2/13/2018 9:20 PM] merissa4308 Brandon will likely drive up in a bit to attach a copy of the BOL to the pallet [2/13/2018 9:22 PM] merissa4308 Can't count on them to call before arriving I guess, so that makes it more difficult given such a big window for pick up [2/13/2018 9:56 PM] pseudonym01 Illustrator is saying license is expired? Any ideas how to correct that? On the computer near blitzen [2/13/2018 10:41 PM] stephenie. Thank you for alerting us. It is a known issue. Here's the open trouble ticket: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/blitzen-laser-pc-adobe-illustrator-license-appears-expired-wont-load/31997 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/blitzen-laser-pc-adobe-illustrator-license-appears-expired-wont-load/31997 Blitzen Laser PC Adobe Illustrator License appears expired - won't load ISSUE or REQUEST: On the PC connected to the Blitzen laser, when I try to launch Adobe Illustrator, I get this error message: [Capture] Affected Tool or Resource: Blitzen PC Committee, Group or Volunteer who usually handles this type of ISSUE or REQUEST (Please tag using the @ symbol. A list of current groups that can be “mentioned” is maintained at this LINK.): @Team_Infrastructure Details of ISSUE or REQUEST (Please be as specific as possible): PLEASE REMEMBER DALLAS MAKERSPACE IS A... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3MyMUSCNODOE7skogr4HZ16z6rOjb6OdWkY8xwN70iU/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/5/6/564bc2ea6868f44115a8333d31c146ccde903070_1_618x500.PNG [2/13/2018 10:43 PM] stephenie. I regret to say that you'll need to use Illustrator on another machine. [2/13/2018 10:46 PM] stephenie. An experimental option exists: trial version of LightBurn has been install on Laser's PCs. It's a substitute for RDWorks that imports an svg file. That means no need to use Illustrator as a middle step. Our testers are reporting satisfactory results. [2/13/2018 10:46 PM] stephenie. We would be interested in your experience if you try it. [2/14/2018 12:31 AM] merissa4308 Saur is prepped to go, bill of lading is taped to it [2/14/2018 12:32 AM] merissa4308 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/413220839379435530/download_20180214_003031.jpg?ex=67b96f65&is=67b81de5&hm=c201b69d09f12355a285adde0f151c2f49fb65bfa1ca343dcdbead477e032095& [2/14/2018 12:32 AM] talkers Thank you @merissa & Brandon. Thank you @stephenie and @David Kessinger for helping today. [2/14/2018 1:34 PM] merissa4308 Driver arriving in 30-45 minutes to pick up the saur! Anyone onsite and available to supervise? @deleted-role [2/14/2018 1:35 PM] clone1018 If you cannot find anyone I can drive over [2/14/2018 1:37 PM] merissa4308 Thank you luke! I posted in general too to see if I can get someone currently onsite [2/14/2018 1:37 PM] merissa4308 They said it will be no more than 45 mins from now [2/14/2018 1:37 PM] clone1018 I looked at the cameras, looks like Stan and Andrew Z (woodshop chair) are there [2/14/2018 1:38 PM] clone1018 I have a meeting at 3 I cannot miss [2/14/2018 1:39 PM] merissa4308 @StanSimmons or @azalaket would yall be able to assist? [2/14/2018 1:42 PM] clone1018 @merissa I'm in touch with Stan, do you have the Bill of Lading ready, printed and on top of the laser? [2/14/2018 1:42 PM] merissa4308 It's taped on top [2/14/2018 1:43 PM] limeytx I'm at the space also if needed [2/14/2018 1:43 PM] merissa4308 Thank you Mark! [2/14/2018 1:44 PM] merissa4308 It's Old Dominion Freight, they said driver should give us back a copy of the bill of lading with a barcode sticker on it that will have the tracking number [2/14/2018 1:44 PM] merissa4308 The pick up number for reference is 71984028 [2/14/2018 1:44 PM] merissa4308 That's on the bill of lading as well [2/14/2018 1:45 PM] clone1018 Ok, Stan is committed and Limey is committed [2/14/2018 1:45 PM] clone1018 I think we'll be good 😃 {Reactions} 👍 [2/14/2018 1:45 PM] merissa4308 And there should be two copies of the BOL there just in case [2/14/2018 1:47 PM] merissa4308 Can put the copy of the BOL with the barcode sticker from the driver in the laser toolbox top drawer [2/14/2018 1:47 PM] stephenie. I am home sick as a dog. So glad to see the DMS team making this happen. [2/14/2018 1:48 PM] merissa4308 Oh no!! Hope you feel better soon! [2/14/2018 1:48 PM] limeytx Merissa, yep two copies, one signed, one not [2/14/2018 1:49 PM] limeytx {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/413421418127163412/JPEG_20180214_134851.jpg?ex=67b8d8b3&is=67b78733&hm=7232ed8b31dca625faad8ce20ea8cd4d28d4f1e232e9519aa351899962563fb4& [2/14/2018 1:49 PM] merissa4308 Ack. My bad. I think any dms person can sign, but think he'll only need one [2/14/2018 1:49 PM] merissa4308 Printed the second one as a back up at the last sec just in case [2/14/2018 1:49 PM] limeytx Looks like you signed top one? [2/14/2018 1:50 PM] limeytx At least I think that's an M and a G [2/14/2018 1:57 PM] merissa4308 Yep that's it :) [2/14/2018 1:59 PM] merissa4308 If there are any snags with pick up please just message me, want to make sure it gets on its way today [2/14/2018 1:59 PM] merissa4308 I definitely appreciate you guys helping too [2/14/2018 2:06 PM] limeytx He is taking pics for his dispatch. Not happy with packaging. Will know more soon [2/14/2018 2:27 PM] merissa4308 Ok [2/14/2018 2:31 PM] merissa4308 Don't think they said anything about packaging yesterday, so hopefully it will fly [2/14/2018 2:50 PM] limeytx {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/413436971470422017/20180214_145020.jpg?ex=67b8e72f&is=67b795af&hm=f8d4ea2e65e91f3dd377953481916d633340353627c3f9e21741d3fceacef656& [2/14/2018 2:51 PM] limeytx And off it goes to it's new home [2/14/2018 2:51 PM] merissa4308 😍 [2/14/2018 2:51 PM] merissa4308 Sooo happy! Foothills Community Workshop will be too!! [2/14/2018 2:52 PM] limeytx Where is the laser toolbox these days? [2/14/2018 2:52 PM] limeytx Or can I drop it in the cash box [2/14/2018 2:52 PM] merissa4308 Last I saw was next to the tombstone [2/14/2018 2:53 PM] merissa4308 Either one will work :) [2/14/2018 2:53 PM] clone1018 big truck for a tiny laser 😃 [2/14/2018 2:54 PM] limeytx Omg I can't see for looking {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/413437782573187072/JPEG_20180214_145357.jpg?ex=67b8e7f0&is=67b79670&hm=360329a8a0540b5361581ded22387539c2518e508b9e91731bbbc5c3990e67a8& [2/14/2018 2:54 PM] merissa4308 Lol definitely makes it look tiny 😄 [2/14/2018 2:54 PM] limeytx Dropped it in top drawer {Reactions} 👍 [2/14/2018 2:56 PM] merissa4308 Ooh, did it have the barcode with tracking number at the top? If so can you snap a pic and share? [2/14/2018 3:14 PM] limeytx It did and I didn't. I'm gone now. Stan should still be there rho [2/14/2018 3:36 PM] merissa4308 No biggie. Thanks for everything today!! [2/14/2018 7:49 PM] pseudonym01 Can any of the lasers cut metal? [2/14/2018 7:51 PM] merissa4308 No, no cutting metal, you'll need the plasma cam for that [2/14/2018 7:53 PM] merissa4308 You can etch/print onto metal with a product like cermark [2/15/2018 9:10 AM] pseudonym01 Gotcha, thanks [2/15/2018 6:53 PM] joshw0263 Hey team laser is pink foam currently on the do not cut list ? [2/15/2018 6:54 PM] canibalcrab no, just do test cuts first [2/16/2018 1:53 PM] pseudonym01 Would anyone be willing to train me on the plasma cam this weekend? [2/16/2018 1:56 PM] clone1018 Plasma Cam is a 2 hour class hosted by the metal shop [2/16/2018 1:56 PM] clone1018 I would ask on Talk instead of the Laser channel [2/16/2018 2:48 PM] pseudonym01 Oh dang, didn't realize it was so involved, thanks [2/16/2018 2:59 PM] canibalcrab discord? thats why i set it up! that way you can get ensnared in other committees just as easily [2/16/2018 2:59 PM] clone1018 Metalshop does not use Discord at the moment, chuck barely uses talk [2/16/2018 3:00 PM] canibalcrab yar [2/16/2018 3:01 PM] canibalcrab i dont think im going to get him on it like i got kessinger either [2/16/2018 3:06 PM] canibalcrab https://www.facebook.com/groups/therpf/permalink/1653546761401569/?sale_post_id=1653546761401569 [2/16/2018 3:06 PM] canibalcrab can anyone see this? a friend is selling his 40w laser cutter, no name cheap china cutter, $160 [2/16/2018 3:07 PM] canibalcrab https://www.facebook.com/groups/therpf/permalink/1653546761401569/?sale_post_id=1653546761401569&ref=messenger_share [2/16/2018 7:14 PM] canibalcrab im really not a fan of the thunder lasers being limited to 70%, it has thrown all of my settings from the 63 through a loop [2/16/2018 10:04 PM] andrew5152 @pseudonym01 some of us (metal shop folk/plasmacam instructors) troll through discord occasionally, but Luke's dead on: post to TALK instead. Honestly, though, I might be able to save you some trouble: we rarely, if ever, do 1 on 1 training for the plasmacam. We have a bit of a gentlemen's agreement that if we're going to spend 2 hours teaching someone how to do it, it should be open for at least 5 of their buddies to join in, so it needs to be a class. IF someone is going to do it for you anyway, it's best to catch them in person and ask, rather than via any of the electronic mediums. 👍 [2/17/2018 11:41 AM] stephenie. Still sick as a dog. Think I've turned a corner though. Am heartened to see Team Laser strong on Talk and Discord. [2/19/2018 2:24 PM] stephenie. Hello. I hope you all are enjoying the holiday weekend. RDWorks however seems to want to invent problems. Anyone with admin rights able to do an uninstall/reinstall? Or know another solution? I'm tagging @StanSimmons on Talk, where he's more likely to see it. I'll be up later to take a look. (yes, have arisen from my sick bed.) https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-thuder-computer-rdworks-not-installed-correctly/32305 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-thuder-computer-rdworks-not-installed-correctly/32305 Laser Thuder Computer: RDWorks not installed correctly ISSUE or REQUEST: RDWorks System Error. The program cannot run on the computer because it says it is missing the RDCAM.dll file and suggests to reinstall the program. I look at the program files and it appears that that file does exist, not sure why it doesn’t read it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Affected Tool or Resource: Thunder Nova 63 computer Committee, Group or Volunteer who usually handles this type of ISSUE or REQUEST (Please tag using the @ symbol. A list of current groups... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [2/19/2018 2:32 PM] canibalcrab im not sure what problem they had [2/19/2018 2:33 PM] canibalcrab it could be that its set for a smaller machine or they imported the file with the wrong units(more likely, since the program detects the machine) [2/19/2018 2:34 PM] canibalcrab or they were trying to use the wrong pc for the 63 and thats why it was set for the wrong machine size [2/19/2018 2:36 PM] stephenie. RDWorks issue is a missing .dll file - that isn't actually missing. [2/19/2018 2:47 PM] stephenie. Stan says SteveO worked the issue and all is well. I can see users at the machine now. Will check in personally before closing out the ticket. [2/19/2018 6:48 PM] stephenie. Thunder 63 update...shortcut missing from Public folder and typing RDWorks into search bar would not locate the application. Frustrated users. @john a gorman assured me I could create the shortcut without screwing things up. (Don't laugh too hard, dear Team Laser!) [2/19/2018 9:09 PM] tomthm9900 This is a kluge but, but if you right click on an a .rdl file and click “open with” you get an option to open with RDWoeks. I meant to report this issue after my class Sunday and rushed off, totally forgetting to. Sorry for the oversight. [2/20/2018 8:29 AM] motopilot_ Even less of a kludge is just double-clicking the RDWorksV8.exe file. (that's what the shortcut points to) Open the C drive, open the RDWorksV8 folder, look for RDWorksV8.exe and double-click it. [2/20/2018 8:30 AM] motopilot_ I re-installed RDWorks on the 63 computer a week or so ago. It seemed to work OK until just recently, right? So, something else changed/broke since then? [2/20/2018 8:30 AM] talkers That's what @stephenie did, creating a shortcut and putting it in the public user folder [2/20/2018 8:31 AM] talkers The short cut for my account was missing at some point last week [2/20/2018 8:31 AM] motopilot_ and, if it is still broken, I think I can connect to the computer remotely and re-install it again. Just hard to actually TEST that it can cut something from downtown dallas [2/20/2018 8:31 AM] talkers It should be working now [2/20/2018 8:31 AM] motopilot_ ok - if it is acting up today, I can come by after work to fix [2/20/2018 8:32 AM] talkers Thank you [2/22/2018 1:02 AM] stephenie. I've set up a working thread on Talk to discuss the materials on the Go/No Go list. Please weigh in there. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/team-laser-materials-list-update-discussion-here/32430 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/team-laser-materials-list-update-discussion-here/32430 Team Laser: Materials List Update discussion HERE Team: The time has come to make some updates to the materials list. Non-Team members: We’ve got some experienced laser users out there who are not on Team Laser. Met one in @nicksilva the other day. Please share your knowledge. Here are the ground rules. Because we all know how Talk can quickly devolve, whether with humor, distraction, or, dare it be said, unpleasantness. I’ve got @John_Marlow on speed dial to help moderate. Don’t make me use her. This is a working thread. Keep on topi... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png {Reactions} 👏 [2/22/2018 3:50 PM] stephenie. Update...Each of the eight NO GO materials has its own thread. Click "like" if the original wording still works. Discuss as needed. One member stated that Lexan can be worked on the multicam. Pointing our users in the direction of alternate solutions may reduce temptation to ignore the prohibitions. [2/22/2018 10:00 PM] kriskat309685 Any idea why this offset on the first line happened? It’s my own fault for not testing but wondering what may have cause it? This was a gift from Walter A and I’ll sand it off but want it to be nice in his memory [2/22/2018 10:00 PM] kriskat309685 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/416444282686275584/image.jpg?ex=67b94bf6&is=67b7fa76&hm=958206156ae47b8bda3118726234731b161e7e2d25efa0ce02ad66969f197c93& [2/22/2018 10:05 PM] talkers @kriskat30 send me the original file and the rd works file please [2/22/2018 10:05 PM] canibalcrab did the nozzle catch or something? [2/22/2018 10:05 PM] canibalcrab doesnt look out of focus [2/22/2018 10:05 PM] talkers If you run a simulation, does it look like that? [2/22/2018 10:11 PM] kriskat309685 Simulation looks perfect [2/22/2018 10:12 PM] kriskat309685 Stephanie was helping me set it up but we were both surprised at the result [2/22/2018 10:13 PM] talkers I would guess a glitch in the gcode [2/22/2018 10:16 PM] kriskat309685 Got it second time around [2/23/2018 5:58 AM] davidkessinger9707 @pearce It was easier to let you put it on my computer than to constantly try to avoid you! [2/23/2018 11:03 AM] motopilot_ my guess is the piece moved, or the belt slipped? It looks too heavy for air assist to have moved it though. [2/28/2018 11:10 PM] stephenie. "Sunday 11a-2p: Lasers Down" signs are up. For Sunday's Maintenance-Day-with-a-side-of-Meeting, I'm bringing meatball sliders. Ryan @somecallmery talked me into making deviled eggs, too. Ummm...deviled eggs. Graham Bateman is bringing fruit. [3/1/2018 1:46 PM] talkers Donner is down. The blower isn't turning on [3/1/2018 1:46 PM] talkers It was working fine for John, and then quit. [3/1/2018 3:34 PM] motopilot_ blower meaning exhaust fan? [3/1/2018 3:34 PM] motopilot_ because then all the lasers should be down [3/1/2018 3:34 PM] motopilot_ or, blower as in "air assist?" [3/1/2018 3:35 PM] motopilot_ I see people using the other 2 machines right now on video [3/1/2018 3:35 PM] motopilot_ I see a phone on the desk there --- anyone have the phone number to call it? [3/1/2018 3:40 PM] clone1018 I think it's the main number? [3/1/2018 3:40 PM] clone1018 not sure [3/1/2018 7:02 PM] stephenie. At Space now. Blitzen's blower and air assist are operating correctly. Checking others... [3/1/2018 7:09 PM] stephenie. Thunder 63 checks out. [3/1/2018 7:18 PM] stephenie. Tried Donner with no material (to catch fire). Definitely no blower. I can hear a hissing sound which seems like air assist blowing against the honeycomb bed. [3/1/2018 7:43 PM] stephenie. Luke solved it...and gave me a tutorial. Power switch was flipped on the blower. Thank you, Luke @LukeStrickland . [3/1/2018 8:14 PM] stephenie. And @MotoPilot Clay came in 5 minutes after it was solved with the intent to troubleshoot Donner. [3/1/2018 8:14 PM] stephenie. Great team. [3/1/2018 11:52 PM] stephenie. We have 26 users - out of 130 - logging into our computers over the last 17 days who don't have completing Laser Basics on record. A few I could ID from Talk. Am getting names and contact info from @StanSimmons. Will have @john a gorman and @tomthm look at list to see if they recognize their students. [3/2/2018 12:04 PM] motopilot_ We should be able to get their email addresses from the directory and send a message informing them that they need to let us know if they've taken the course - or take it soon. Otherwise they'll lose the ability to logon if we don't hear back from them. [3/2/2018 12:06 PM] motopilot_ It appears I should be able to modify the current logon script that resets the RDWorks settings to also check if the user is a member of the "laser trained" group. If not, it would display a notice that they need to either take the class or get added to the group. I'll work on that. [3/2/2018 1:40 PM] stephenie. @StanSimmons gave us the names and email addresses last night. [3/2/2018 1:41 PM] canibalcrab Could have the computers not log in for people who haven't taken the class [3/2/2018 1:41 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman and @tomthm, you will be getting an invite to edit a Google spreadsheet. There's a tab for Users Without Laser Basics. Please make a note if you recognize any of your LB students. [3/2/2018 1:42 PM] stephenie. @pearce , that's the goal. [3/2/2018 1:42 PM] canibalcrab Completely removes the issue of non trained people on the PCs [3/2/2018 1:42 PM] stephenie. Agreed. [3/2/2018 1:46 PM] stephenie. The committee agreed to this at last months meeting. We have a problem with too many users having taken LB, but it not being on their record because the class was so long ago. So to minimize disruption, we are ID-ing as many as possible without LB and notifying them. We're given them a 30day grace period in which they can update their records. [3/2/2018 1:47 PM] stephenie. @pearce your ID canibalcrab is not in the LB directory. [3/2/2018 2:05 PM] canibalcrab I believe I predate the system [3/2/2018 2:08 PM] stephenie. Yep. Hoping to find more like you to save y'all the inconvenience. I'll get Stan to update your records. [3/2/2018 2:10 PM] canibalcrab When we got the first thunder I remember we had like 300 people trained but not in the ad system [3/2/2018 2:16 PM] stephenie. Yikes. We only captured 26 non-LB names in this net. [3/2/2018 2:17 PM] stephenie. Will put up notice on Talk and signage in Laser. [3/2/2018 2:22 PM] gbeauw Is my ID gbeauw in the list? [3/2/2018 2:25 PM] stephenie. Yes. You are recorded as completing LB. [3/2/2018 5:45 PM] redroosterkey6994 Hi all, I have taken the class and I’m going to drop by a bit later to try to make my first cuts. If anybody is there who wants to help a noobie, it would be greatly appreciated. [3/2/2018 6:00 PM] stephenie. If no Team Laser members are there, ask any user for assistance. They were all newbies at one time and were helped by more-experienced users...pay it forward. [3/2/2018 6:02 PM] redroosterkey6994 Roger that! 😀 [3/3/2018 2:51 AM] stephenie. Crystal is asking if Donner is having a chiller problem. Any thoughts? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/donner-cooling-issue/32816 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/donner-cooling-issue/32816 Donner Cooling Issue? ISSUE or REQUEST: Cooler problem? Affected Tool or Resource: Donner Laser Committee, Group or Volunteer who usually handles this type of ISSUE or REQUEST (Please tag using the @ symbol. A list of current groups that can be “mentioned” is maintained at this LINK.): Details of ISSUE or REQUEST (Please be as specific as possible): 3/3 1:30a The cooler is showing 19 degrees and is whirring. Air bubbles in the line. Everything is showing green still but doesn’t seem right. Asked around but no on... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [3/3/2018 12:04 PM] stephenie. Via a Talk PM, I've sent Team Laser a link to our rebuilt finances. The Google sheet is viewable, not editable. Do not post questions here. Post on the PM thread. This notice is to direct your attention to the PM. [3/3/2018 12:07 PM] stephenie. Get ready for Sunday's Maintenance-And-Meeting by catching up on our activities. See the Closed Items on our Action Items list. You can add new items - open or closed - and they will appear as comments that I can approve. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RpKt46AY-UbctIcSm9UzNQ2gSadPdOZRI6O8VVqJ-gA/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RpKt46AY-UbctIcSm9UzNQ2gSadPdOZRI6O8VVqJ-gA/edit?usp=sharing Committee: Action Items Being on this list doesn’t mean it will get done. It means it won’t get forgotten. Name = a volunteer (not an employee) is working on this. Patience. No name = not getting done. Volunteer if it is important to you. OPEN ITEMS Operations & Maintenance (Robert Davidson) “Also I ordered some ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0bCQZ3maus43jlesZJK7Ls4SneveJ2i5JbqDWs4_WMA/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/sY9xVsp_zbMrgi2P5M6vIEyYfifxsez-IbI-hrwKoPDxKM_V2BS2E2bY_baQblwdDgUMBg%3Dw1200-h630-p [3/3/2018 12:27 PM] stephenie. Laser convention plus other stuff, starts Thursday. https://thenbmshow.com/arlington-2018 [3/4/2018 2:53 PM] stephenie. Chiller's water was empty. Evidence of a leak...water stains on floor and a piece of scrap stored behind Donner. The drain plug was loose, now tightened. Bears watching. [3/4/2018 5:03 PM] canibalcrab like someone slide scrap into the line? [3/4/2018 5:51 PM] stephenie. That's a thought. [3/5/2018 3:03 AM] stephenie. Posted meeting minutes & committee report in one Talk thread. Committee Report is required in advance support of the monthly DMS Member Meeting, this Thursday at 8pm. This is the one time/place where we can talk directly to other committees, general members and the Board-members-who-show-up-to-listen. I'll be there and would like to see other Laser members there. I have financial questions to raise. And we don't know what questions others will have of us. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/march-2018-laser-committee-meeting-minutes-committee-report/32881 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/march-2018-laser-committee-meeting-minutes-committee-report/32881 March 2018 Laser Committee Meeting Minutes + Committee Report This serves as both a posting of our meeting minutes and our monthly report for Thursday’s Member Meeting (hope to see some Laser members there!) Can I just say how amazing Team Laser is? 17 people showed, made decisions, and worked! And ate meatball sliders, deviled eggs, fruit, veggies and chips. Extra tip o’ the hat to Graham and Josh for bringing food. That army marches on its stomach. I’m telling you. A great team all around. (And Graham brought me a present…confetti eggs for Easter... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/G0YWuulryxVoVccHElZkrkv0x1HWaEuFqoKHkPngAUk/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/d/fdeeb2f42d3bea63e88b9fad290ed19588b85929.jpg [3/5/2018 9:09 AM] gbeauw Sorry I couldn't make that meeting. Thanks to all that helped and to Stephenie for her leadership. [3/5/2018 5:56 PM] stephenie. No worries. See you next month.. There's always a next month... [3/6/2018 5:46 PM] tomthm9900 Tommy Thomas here. Is someone available to cover a Laser Basics class tomorrow 11:30 AM - 1:00 PM? My son is in the hospital and they need me there tomorrow at 11:00 AM. [3/6/2018 6:01 PM] tomthm9900 I know there a few of teaching. Another possibility is I’ll contact those signed up and move the class to later in the day for those who can, and a second time for those who can’t. [3/6/2018 6:17 PM] tomthm9900 Above, meant to saw “only a few”. [3/6/2018 6:32 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman? [3/6/2018 6:33 PM] talkers @tomthm I can cover it for you [3/6/2018 6:33 PM] stephenie. @tomthm Anything else we can do for you and your family? [3/6/2018 7:20 PM] talkers Yes, anything to help? [3/6/2018 7:20 PM] tomthm9900 Oh thx John. Really appreciate it. And thanks you Stephanie. He’s good, had a wreck but no life threatening injuries. John if you [3/6/2018 7:22 PM] tomthm9900 John if you will send me signin roster, I will do the Attendance and AD check offs in the calendar, unless there’s another way that you know of. [3/6/2018 7:22 PM] tomthm9900 And the honorarium of course. [3/6/2018 7:22 PM] talkers As Classroom Chair, I have access to that. No worries. [3/6/2018 7:22 PM] tomthm9900 I appreciate the response and offer SO much. [3/6/2018 7:23 PM] talkers I'll etch your son a tumbler to speed recovery. Science says tumblers help in many ways [3/6/2018 7:24 PM] tomthm9900 Cool. A guy emailed today and asked if he could show up, he’d list his password, got that sorted but still couldn’t sign up. Is it cool with you if he comes. I’ll can be there by 3:30 and can show him then if it’s easier. I’m coming down then anyway. [3/6/2018 7:25 PM] tomthm9900 So excellent. Thanks buddy. [3/6/2018 7:25 PM] talkers Nah, if you said it was ok, I'll honor it and his time [3/6/2018 7:25 PM] talkers Sent you a private message [3/6/2018 7:27 PM] tomthm9900 Cool man. I love DMS because of folks like y’all, which is how most everybody at DMS is. Sons name is Ian in case that helps. [3/6/2018 7:28 PM] talkers Any other interest to add? School, sport, game, pagan symbol [3/6/2018 7:28 PM] talkers I mean... [3/6/2018 7:35 PM] tomthm9900 He goal is a Subaru WRX. I can bring a file at 3:30 if that’s not too late. If it is, anything will be good [3/6/2018 8:43 PM] talkers @tomthm that works. I'm avail until 4:15 [3/6/2018 8:45 PM] tomthm9900 Cool man! [3/7/2018 12:49 AM] stephenie. @Motopilot and @john a gorman added a sign to whiteboard with links & QR codes for Talk, Discord, wiki, and Action Items. [3/7/2018 11:10 AM] stephenie. Thunder 63 is down. Needs new drag chain. See Talk post I've got the broken bracket to match up and counted the # of links. I need to go back and see if the chain is open, closed or semi-closed type (apparently from online search that's a thing). [3/7/2018 11:11 AM] stephenie. What I need from you....does anyone know of a local supplier? I can get a replacement today, if so, for quickest turn around. Otherwise, will mail order one. [3/7/2018 11:42 AM] clone1018 Needs a new chain or a new bracket? [3/7/2018 11:43 AM] canibalcrab Both are printable [3/7/2018 11:43 AM] clone1018 that's what I was thinking [3/7/2018 11:44 AM] canibalcrab Someone find some calipers! [3/7/2018 1:44 PM] stephenie. It needs one or two links and an end piece/anchor. [3/7/2018 1:44 PM] stephenie. @pearce what dimensions do you need? I'm available to make any measurements. [3/7/2018 1:47 PM] stephenie. or I can put the broken bracket somewhere you can find it. [3/7/2018 3:49 PM] stephenie. Size was stamped on links. No local supplier found. Ordered replacement chain for $15 from Amazon + 2 spares. Same chain used on all 3 Thunder Novas. Not a common size. 2 Day delivery. Hit or miss whether we'll get a weekend delivery, though. [3/7/2018 3:58 PM] stephenie. If @pearce or @LukeStrickland 3D print replacements with the intent to get Big Thunder in service sooner, that's good too. It's a win-win no matter what. [3/7/2018 4:14 PM] stephenie. Steve Blanchard acted as our procurement officer, so package arriving in his name. I will be out of town for Spring Break. Hiking. Little internet contact. Back Friday the 16th. Stan should let y'all know when package is here, but if you would check also when on-site, so much the better. [3/7/2018 4:15 PM] canibalcrab Pics? Someone may have made a similar one already [3/7/2018 4:15 PM] canibalcrab Otherwise wed just need the broken bits and some calipers [3/7/2018 4:16 PM] stephenie. You can pull the intact pieces from Big Thunder. Better for measurement than broken bits. [3/7/2018 4:16 PM] stephenie. Looks like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Z2R1G8/ref=twister_B074Y8LZLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 [3/7/2018 4:23 PM] stephenie. Just in case, the broken link is in my galley storage bin. Ziploc bag, top of bin. My bin is below Mark Reynold/Limey's...great landmark. Hope it helps. And thank you, as always. [3/7/2018 6:15 PM] clone1018 Maybe im missing something but to me that plastic chain is just for cable management ? [3/7/2018 6:21 PM] canibalcrab Yeah [3/7/2018 6:26 PM] stephenie. Yep [3/7/2018 6:26 PM] stephenie. And the air assist tube [3/7/2018 10:11 PM] .somecallmery I measured and got an end printed and installed, but the problem goes deeper. The airhose is stiff and the chain doesn't lay as flat as it should, which allows it to catch when traveling certain paths. Clay, I think, is working on getting some new hose. Im sure he will post up when he gets it taken care of. [3/7/2018 10:17 PM] clone1018 The 3d print is beautiful [3/7/2018 10:17 PM] clone1018 Can't even tell {Reactions} dms [3/7/2018 10:52 PM] stephenie. That is great news. [3/7/2018 10:55 PM] stephenie. Did you add links? At least one link broke off. If the chain is too short, how might that effect operation? [3/7/2018 11:41 PM] stephenie. Thank you one and all. Saw @MotoPilot 's update on Talk. [3/7/2018 11:43 PM] motopilot_ Seems to work fine with the current size chain. We moved the laser head all over the table. {Reactions} 👍 [3/7/2018 11:45 PM] stephenie. Blue air tubing is a thing. Silicone based. [3/7/2018 11:53 PM] motopilot_ We just need to be careful it isn't too soft though for that compression fitting to work properly (or insert a small metal tube on the inside to keep the end rigid. We also considered that the first two inches could be very stiff tubing, with a straight fitting to transition to silicone for the middle section that needs to be flexible. [3/7/2018 11:57 PM] stephenie. I'll bring this up to the Thunder representatives at the trade show tomorrow. I want a spare parts list. [3/8/2018 12:00 AM] motopilot_ The drag chain on the left side is also looking like it needs to be cleaned too. A couple of links on it look sticky. The left one has air hose running in it. (blue line) The right side looked ok. (there are 3 of them in the machine) [3/8/2018 12:04 AM] stephenie. I wonder if they are all KYD 1020s. Is it hoping for too much that the part be universal? [3/8/2018 12:18 AM] stephenie. @MotoPilot turn in your receipt for the hose for reimbursement. I believe forms are outside the server room. [3/9/2018 3:27 PM] stephenie. Just a reminder...I'm leaving tomorrow on Spring Break & will be out of town until late-late Thursday. Will try to stay in touch, but lots of adventure and limited cell reception a factor. Carry on, Team. You've demonstrated terrific communication + problem solving and can handle anything that comes up. [3/9/2018 4:08 PM] motopilot_ So you won't mind if we repaint all the machines pink? [3/9/2018 4:53 PM] stephenie. Depends. Will the shade coordinate with our Laser Red color? [3/12/2018 6:24 PM] pinewoodnut Only had a few minutes to checkI on Donner. No visible tube issues. Water level same as when we refilled it. Ran same test job on Donner and Blitzen with same results. Not seeing any issues. Left it out of service for now because I had to run home. Also just realized I have the keys for the cabinet and laser in my pocket. I'll be back in a while with the keys. [3/12/2018 6:25 PM] canibalcrab Check lenses and mirrors [3/12/2018 6:25 PM] canibalcrab I can't come up tonight [3/12/2018 7:04 PM] pinewoodnut I hurt my knee and can't come back. Sending keys, but someone else will need to check lenses and mirrors [3/14/2018 1:22 PM] nclindberg Do anyone know if we are going to get a light burn license. The free trial has expired [3/14/2018 11:11 PM] pinewoodnut Stan is working with the vendor to get the license keys stop for all users. [3/15/2018 10:23 AM] bara5725 I am looking for the document that states good places to buy materials that was mentioned in class but am having a hard time locating it on the website. Can someone kindly point me in the right direction? [3/15/2018 10:52 AM] clone1018 https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Plastics_Suppliers {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Plastics_Suppliers Plastics Suppliers [3/15/2018 10:56 AM] bara5725 Thanks! [3/15/2018 1:37 PM] pinewoodnut I put Donner back in service. I can't find any issue with it and haven't been able to repeat the problem. [3/16/2018 9:25 PM] loganc100910 Where does the power meter live for the lasers? I'd like to do some grid / quadrant power loss, linearity tests, and comparisons across the different laser outputs at some point. [3/16/2018 10:22 PM] .somecallmery It is in the laser cabinet. Curiosity had me check top left corner and bottom right corner of the grid to see what the loss was on Donner last maintenance day. [3/16/2018 10:26 PM] .somecallmery We got 60watts top left, and about 40 bottom right, which was way more loss than any of us expected. [3/16/2018 10:32 PM] loganc100910 Thanks, that was the primarily the piece of info I was after. [3/17/2018 10:06 AM] bara5725 I had a delivery of Acrylic from AlliedPlastics it sounds like that came in Yesterday afternoon and I know who signed for it, but I have not made it back to DMS to check..When I get there later today is there a typical location I should look? I read a post about a black table in the commons area? [3/17/2018 10:08 AM] clone1018 yeah it's in the common room [3/17/2018 10:08 AM] clone1018 We have a table in the front of the hallway for packages [3/17/2018 10:12 AM] bara5725 Ok great. I just want to confirm where it is and hopefully that it is there (10 sheets) because the place that delivered will be closed before I can check myself. Not sure who is onsite though that could look [3/17/2018 10:16 AM] clone1018 I am [3/17/2018 10:17 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/424587000406999040/JPEG_20180317_101705.jpg?ex=67b941b5&is=67b7f035&hm=1620e7ea1040ad340b2bcebb270280f292627507f548c5b2cdb09b10d854510c& [3/17/2018 10:17 AM] clone1018 10 sheets [3/17/2018 10:17 AM] bara5725 Awesome. I really appreciate it [3/17/2018 11:31 AM] jbeiler551288 I apologize if I missed a list somewhere but where are good places to buy plywood for laser cutting? Looking for 3/8" or 1/2". I'm assuming the pine plywood from home depot won't work well? [3/17/2018 11:46 AM] bara5725 https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Wood_Suppliers Try looking here {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Wood_Suppliers Wood Suppliers [3/17/2018 4:29 PM] jbeiler55 Thanks! [3/17/2018 4:57 PM] denzuko Hey guys, I hear someone here is working with software that interfaces with the active directory? [3/18/2018 11:41 AM] banditbingo is anyone near the laser right now? [3/18/2018 11:46 AM] bara5725 I am in a woodworking class right now. What do you need? [3/18/2018 11:48 AM] banditbingo oh cool! @Bara when you are done, could you please take a picture of the materials board with the circles of optimal settings? [3/18/2018 12:31 PM] banditbingo @Bara actually it's OK, thanks for asking. I've got it taken care of [3/18/2018 12:32 PM] bara5725 My apologies, had to go directly from wood class to Haas class and hadn’t had a chance to take the pic yet 😦 [3/18/2018 9:38 PM] jbeiler55 Anyone have experience with the laser not cutting all of the design? It says it's done with the job and just didn't cut the bottom. [3/18/2018 9:54 PM] redroosterkey6994 Anyone know what I’m doing wrong with the color mapping on epilog? It seems not to save the settings when I change them. [3/18/2018 9:59 PM] canibalcrab Has to be specific colors [3/18/2018 9:59 PM] canibalcrab I'm pretty sure it can only see 8 [3/18/2018 10:01 PM] redroosterkey6994 I was not hitting the right button. Rookie mistake [3/18/2018 10:12 PM] canibalcrab Ah the check box for it. Yeah happens a lot [3/19/2018 12:34 AM] redroosterkey6994 I actually wasn’t clicking the little double arrow that saves the color config [3/19/2018 12:34 AM] redroosterkey6994 Also somebody’s glasses were there by the epilog station when I left. Meant to get a picture and post on talk, but forgot [3/21/2018 5:42 PM] stephenie. Hello, Team. Back from Spring Break. Posted on Talk our official meeting notice with announcement of Committee Chair election. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/monthly-maintenance-comm-mtg-chair-election-sun-april-8th-11a-2p/33531 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/monthly-maintenance-comm-mtg-chair-election-sun-april-8th-11a-2p/33531 Monthly Maintenance + Comm Mtg + Chair Election, Sun, April 8th, 1... (clears throat; uses official sounding voice) Let this serve as the formal 2 week notice prior to our Committee Chair election, per https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Rules_and_Policies#Committee_Responsibilities_and_Rules2. Nominations welcome ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/LXnA2jH4KNqUrJEYJmRhnpIYX1Z4yJE7ivx2-vfU6Hc/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/f/6/f6bd4eb6f9bf9561af5195e2a66fa6f5d21a657a_1_631x500.jpg [3/25/2018 10:19 AM] loganc100598 I'm seeing a noticeable power degradation on Donner in the upper left quadrant (say 30-40%+) and slightly lower (10%-25%) in the rest of the quadrants. It seems that there is a large smudge on the lens that could be causing it. I assume cleaning it isn't as easy as Windex and paper towel? If so, is this something that could be looked at prior to the maintenance day in a few weeks? [3/26/2018 9:49 AM] pseudonym01 How long is too long (time wise) to run a job on one of the thunder lasers? [3/26/2018 9:50 AM] pseudonym01 I have a wood rastering/etching job that is simulated to take 45 minutes and I'm worried that the laser would potentially be damaged in some way of it was continuously used for that long [3/26/2018 9:50 AM] pseudonym01 Am I being overly cautious? [3/26/2018 11:16 AM] canibalcrab It has a water chiller for this reason [3/26/2018 7:19 PM] tomthm9900 Anybody know if the Light Burn software is going to become part of our arsenal? [3/27/2018 12:13 AM] stephenie. @StanSimmons purchased the licenses. Are they installed yet? [3/27/2018 2:10 PM] pseudonym01 @pearce alright thanks [3/28/2018 6:41 AM] tomthm9900 Don’t think Big Thunder’s worked. I talked to Stan briefly on my way to Blake’s Arduino Class (excellent, by the way). Will follow up on Friday when I’m up there. [3/28/2018 6:45 AM] tomthm9900 Big Thunder’s LightBurn I meant to say. [3/28/2018 6:50 AM] tomthm9900 And....Brady. Not Blake. Sorry to y’all getting notifications with each of my corrections. Last one. [3/31/2018 12:19 AM] banditbingo anyone at the Space? [4/2/2018 11:14 AM] motopilot_ Note for maintenance day - Blitzen red positioning laser is pretty dim. Not sure if it is alignment or a dirty mirror. When I looked at the mirror just over the final lens it looks like there's a smudge in the center too. Also, Blitzen is a mess in general (see post on talk for pictures). [4/2/2018 11:14 AM] motopilot_ (no, it wasn't a result of tattoo removal) [4/2/2018 11:27 AM] canibalcrab Probably needs cleaning. Soot lands on the mirror and gets heated up by the laser making the smudge. [4/2/2018 1:10 PM] stephenie. Will vacuuming take care of the mess on the honeycomb bed? Or do we need to follow Todd Bloom's advice for wet cleaning the bed? [4/2/2018 1:13 PM] canibalcrab No we would need something active [4/2/2018 1:13 PM] canibalcrab Like compressed air blowing on the mirrors to prevent soot from landing [4/2/2018 3:43 PM] stephenie. I was referring to the mess we have, not future mess. How to clean it up. [4/2/2018 3:49 PM] canibalcrab Oh I meant the dirty mirrors. Is blitzen closest to the door? Someone was rastering the crap out of foam. It was pretty messy [4/2/2018 3:52 PM] stephenie. Blitzen is closest to the back door. When did you see the foam being rastered? What color was the foam? The residue is black. Am trying to locate the user on camera. [4/2/2018 3:57 PM] canibalcrab Pink foam [4/2/2018 3:57 PM] canibalcrab Two nights ago? I was doing car work [4/2/2018 3:58 PM] stephenie. Thank you. [4/2/2018 3:58 PM] canibalcrab Foam was nacho, there's been a lot of rastering on that machine of other odd things too [4/2/2018 3:59 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman was Nacho rastering pink stamping rubber on Blitzen or Zing? [4/2/2018 4:00 PM] talkers Blitzen [4/2/2018 4:00 PM] canibalcrab Near door [4/2/2018 4:00 PM] canibalcrab I was talking with him [4/2/2018 4:03 PM] stephenie. Sounds like the messy "pink foam" was the Speedball Speedy Carve, which is a no-go material due to PVC. @john a gorman , you spoke with Nacho and corrected this? [4/2/2018 4:03 PM] talkers @yoda it is speedball [4/2/2018 4:05 PM] canibalcrab If it was we should wipe down the smooth rods [4/2/2018 4:05 PM] canibalcrab And bearing surfaces [4/2/2018 4:06 PM] motopilot_ Wet cleaning the grids is likely needed on Blitzen, and could be done on the others... Is the process terrible or just a matter of building a 2x4 frame on the ground with a plastic tarp, pouring in the solution, and putting the grid in it for a while? I suppose for the smaller machines, we could buy a new grid, swap out the existing one, clean it, then swap out that one on the next machine, and would always have a clean grid ready to go. [4/2/2018 4:07 PM] canibalcrab In the future the black floor foam(Eva) works really well for stamps {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/430473272501731329/JPEG_20180131_225951.jpg?ex=67b8eaf9&is=67b79979&hm=826c991bd9fce98045cff14c85d68f2242e7c8df4be085c6a10a08d9e97a54c6& [4/2/2018 4:07 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/430473422909341706/JPEG_20180131_225732.jpg?ex=67b8eb1d&is=67b7999d&hm=3f493935f675a23827acbf3aa36ce418c09f0a3925318ffe269013b37e297a12& [4/2/2018 4:08 PM] motopilot_ The black soot looks like it could have come from black foam. It didn't seem like wood soot. [4/2/2018 4:09 PM] motopilot_ I have time to go back and do some cleanup. I want to work on the LightBurn license stuff anyway. [4/2/2018 4:09 PM] canibalcrab I literally watched it come off the pink foam [4/2/2018 4:10 PM] canibalcrab And talked about how to reduce how much he was having to burn away [4/2/2018 4:10 PM] motopilot_ I guess burning pick foam is probably going to turn black [4/2/2018 4:10 PM] canibalcrab Especially if it's pvc [4/2/2018 4:10 PM] motopilot_ ugh [4/2/2018 9:14 PM] stephenie. Thanks to @pearce 's info, I located the camera feed and watched @yoda laser the Speedy Carve. Can confirm Pearce's description. It filled the interior with plumes of soot. Very obvious. Can see that @MotoPilot is working on Blitzen now. What kind of shape is it in? Were you able to wipe down the smooth rods & bearing surfaces per Pearce's recommendation? [4/2/2018 9:25 PM] talkers 2 of the 3 types of speedball have PVC. I'll post it on talk tonight. If it is generating so much smoke, that's also a problem even without PVC [4/2/2018 9:26 PM] stephenie. thank you [4/2/2018 9:26 PM] stephenie. Any stamping materials need to say "laserable" or "chlorine free". I've updated the wiki. [4/2/2018 9:37 PM] talkers @MotoPilot todd said purple power works well. there is also car wash east on Valwood for pressured water [4/3/2018 9:03 AM] motopilot_ Blitzen is mostly clean now. Will need a full detailing this weekend's maintenance day. I did not remove the bearings and they could use some cleaning. The bearing surface rods were wiped down and they look OK. The two rods at the very back that come off that center stepper motor look to have a little corrosion on them but nothing serious. I cleaned the lens with alcohol (hope that's ok) to remove the haze on it. Someone was attempting to cut 1/2" acrylic when I got there (which is really, really pushing the limit on that machine) and it originally wasn't working well. The lens barrel was extremely hot after their test cut. That didn't happen after I cleaned the lens. The mirrors should all be removed and cleaned this weekend too (and realigned). Isopropyl alcohol and paper towel did a good job of cutting through the grime and yellowish film on the interior. The bottle is almost empty so I'd bring another one. [4/3/2018 9:04 AM] motopilot_ Also, LightBurn license installation instructions are posted at the 3 design computers and the nova 35s. I couldn't get on Thunder because it was busy. Just need to put a license file on the desktop and it will be able to run LightBurn too. [4/3/2018 9:24 AM] motopilot_ I didn't even try to clean the bed. It is really dirty too though. Be careful with pressure washing... keep your distance or else that thin grid could really get bent up. [4/3/2018 2:16 PM] talkers @MotoPilot Thank you Clay! [4/5/2018 11:31 AM] stephenie. @MotoPilot Great seeing you and @pinewoodnut last night. No thank you is big enough for all the work you all do. [4/5/2018 11:34 AM] stephenie. Team - Tonight is a special last minute Board of Directors meeting re: renting Suite 102 next door. Starts at 7pm. Laser needs to be in the seats. If you can get there, please be there. [4/5/2018 11:34 AM] stephenie. Last night was the Meet the Candidates. I did not attend. Clay did. (I was working with David at Office Hours and making our consumable purchases.) I wasn't concerned about missing it as I've been talking with the candidates at length. [4/5/2018 11:35 AM] stephenie. I should have been concerned. One question from the floor, asked by the chair of Metal Shop, was "Should Laser be allowed to keep its money?" [4/5/2018 11:37 AM] canibalcrab Good Lord really [4/5/2018 11:39 AM] stephenie. By 2nd hand accounts, the candidates gave a variety of answers. Including - paraphrasing and 2nd hand, so take with a grain of salt: (a) Laser should give some of their money to the general fund, (b) Laser's fees may be too high, (c) Laser is self-funding, faces big maintenance bills if something goes wrong, and is saving for a fiber laser, and (d) if you want to change Laser, join its committee and legislate from there. [4/5/2018 11:40 AM] stephenie. Basically, I won't miss a meeting if I can help it. Also I am extending an invite to the candidates to attend Sunday's meeting and work day. If they need to get to know us. [4/5/2018 11:46 AM] canibalcrab We've had this fight before fyi [4/5/2018 11:47 AM] canibalcrab The board needed money to buy a PC for another committee and took 1500 from laser without talking to the chair first [4/5/2018 11:48 AM] canibalcrab It was brought up when we asked for funding for the lasersaur [4/5/2018 11:48 AM] canibalcrab STOP [4/5/2018 11:49 AM] canibalcrab We can't use DMS or committee funds to buy food for volunteers [4/5/2018 11:49 AM] motopilot_ I know that [4/5/2018 11:50 AM] canibalcrab Especially if it's expected as part of volunteering. It's constitutes payment. [4/5/2018 11:50 AM] canibalcrab Well don't add that as a reason we should keep it [4/5/2018 11:50 AM] motopilot_ food honorarium? [4/5/2018 11:51 AM] motopilot_ tough to see the difference between paying someone to volunteer to teach a class and giving them a taco for volunteering to clean a machine though. [4/5/2018 12:02 PM] motopilot_ I've only been a member for a year or so, and I'm trying to understand how the money really flows around this space, which hasn't been easy. Some things I just don't understand, and some things make me shake my head and say "really?" I believe that committees/areas should in some respects be partially self funded - through whatever means that they choose. If they price themselves out of the market and die, that's on them. I also believe each member should choose 1-3 committees and a small portion of their monthly membership gets allocated to the committees they choose. That would also ensure that the committees that people care about and use get more funding (as they should) and people have a direct say in where their membership dollars go. (committees like classroom would be treated differently) It might also encourage committees to be the best they can be to encourage members to choose them. I also believe when the board agrees to fund a $10-15,000 machine, there should be a plan in place about how the committee will "pay that back" in some way, or at least be able to say they'll have the money saved to buy a replacement when the machine is at end-of-life. That's only reasonable and would ensure we're really buying things that will benefit the group and we're not just throwing money away. So much more I could write here, but don't have time right now. [4/5/2018 12:40 PM] clone1018 @stephenie for the record, my response was d {Reactions} 👍 [4/5/2018 3:36 PM] stephenie. @pearce I'm confused about your segue re: food for volunteers. If you are referring to me providing snack on Sunday, I want to reassure you and everyone that I pay for it out of my own pocket. Pearce is correct that we cannot pay for it with committee funds. The reason why I provide a sandwich is 4-fold: (a) you all work so hard for 3 hours, right through lunch and (b) a bribe and (c) breaking bread knits us together and (d) I don't really much cook anymore, it's nice to feed happy people. I hope this clarifies. {Reactions} 🙏 [4/5/2018 3:37 PM] canibalcrab Sorry the message I was referring got deleted [4/5/2018 3:37 PM] stephenie. Oh! That helps. [4/5/2018 3:37 PM] canibalcrab I know you buy yours out of pocket. Thanks for that [4/5/2018 3:37 PM] stephenie. You're welcome. [4/5/2018 3:39 PM] stephenie. If anyone feels so moved to bring something to share, that's lovely. William Petefish is joining to help with the expansion project paperwork. He's bringing something involving hot peppers from a BBQ joint. Last month, folks added fruit and veggie trays and chips. I try to bring stuff that doesn't require utensils. {Reactions} 👏 [4/5/2018 4:18 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-requests-the-presence-of-candidates-on-maintenance-day-mtg/34243 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-requests-the-presence-of-candidates-on-maintenance-day-mtg/34243 Laser requests the presence of Candidates on Maintenance Day + Mtg @Adam_Oas @Know @Photomancer @extralanyap @Haley_Moore @Kriskat30 @LukeStrickland @dr_cee @Diplomat This Sunday, April 8, from 11a-2p. Attire: Clothes that can get dirty. Refreshments served. At last night’s Meet the Candidates forum, the c... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [4/5/2018 4:20 PM] motopilot_ I deleted my original comment, which had an offhand remark about how a committee should be able to spend their funds on more or less whatever they want including food/drink for volunteers who give their time to come clean/maintain the equipment. In my mind, this really isn't different than providing an honorarium for volunteering to teach a class. I don't know of the prohibition on food is a DMS policy to keep committees from buying a lot of food, or an actual law that governs nonprofits. (I suspect the former) As with all policies, they sometimes aren't quite right the first time. For example, if the policy was strictly written to say "A committee may spend up to $50/month on Food/drink to be used as refreshments during committee meetings or maintenance events" I don't think anyone would have an issue with that... Again, if it doesn't violate any laws. [4/5/2018 4:28 PM] stephenie. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-tax-free-benefits-can-nonprofits-give-volunteers.html {Embed} https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-tax-free-benefits-can-nonprofits-give-volunteers.html What Tax-Free Benefits Can Nonprofits Give Volunteers? [4/5/2018 4:51 PM] canibalcrab Spoke to Chuck (machine shop chair) and he appears to have been misquoted about taking away laser funds [4/5/2018 4:51 PM] motopilot_ I'm not a lawyer, but reading that I don't think providing refreshments at a maintenance event would cause any legal issues. By policy, I think DMS should still limit the amount spent on such things to be fiscally responsible and to avoid any issue with the law. [4/5/2018 4:53 PM] canibalcrab I'm not going to argue volunteer law, the DMS doesn't allow committee funds to be spent on food [4/5/2018 4:53 PM] canibalcrab It's a CYA thing [4/5/2018 4:58 PM] motopilot_ Have someone who was recording the event play it back and we'll see what the real question was. [4/5/2018 5:02 PM] canibalcrab When I talked to him he was saying that laser shouldn't be charging for time. Arguably he right. We are clearly overcharging for time and maintenance, because we have upgraded machines and tube suppliers to units that no longer destroy themselves (power supplies on the fsl) cost half as much to replace for better tubes (spt instead of shitty reci brand) and we haven't reduced the fee needed for them [4/5/2018 5:05 PM] canibalcrab Every other tool in the space is treated differently. No charge, when repairs are needed the board is asked, and usually provides(relaiabilty of the board is a sticking point) [4/5/2018 5:06 PM] motopilot_ That's fine. You and I fundamentally disagree on usage fees and why they are a good thing too it sounds like. [4/5/2018 5:06 PM] canibalcrab Laser could move to be more uniform with the rest of the space and go to the board occasionally to aks for the now $1500 for a new tube if something happens [4/5/2018 5:06 PM] motopilot_ And he asked about taking funds from laser. [4/5/2018 5:08 PM] canibalcrab My statement wasn't directed to you. [4/5/2018 5:08 PM] canibalcrab I'm telling the committee about the conversation I had with Chuck [4/5/2018 5:09 PM] canibalcrab I don't even know who you are, so I can't make any statements on if we agree on usage fees. [4/5/2018 5:11 PM] motopilot_ ok, cool.. and I was at the meeting and I heard the question and the responses. If his question was about charging usage fees, then that's what he should have asked in the meeting. The discussion then turned to usage fees as to why laser HAD the funds he was asking about recapturing. [4/5/2018 8:28 PM] stephenie. Pearce (@pearce) meet Clay (@MotoPilot) . Clay meet Pearce. Pearce has been maintaining our lasers since time immemorial. He works for Poly Printer. He pre-dates my time, so I cannot do his accomplishments justice. His mom taught at my son's school, so I'm biased. He is (I hope) enjoying semi-retirement from the care and feeding of these machines thanks to a functioning Team Laser. And yet, he always responds to our questions on Discord. Clay is a very active member of the Team. His first contribution was the sample board, then he wrote new Laser Basics materials. His biggest contributions have been to the computers. We now have login data. RDWorks resets its settings with each login. Safety warnings on the wallpaper. He created two pinboards. He cleaned Blitzen when it got nuked this week with PVC-enfused residue. I'm forgetting stuff, I know. But these are his bona fides, Pearce. He's good people. You both are good people. [4/5/2018 8:49 PM] stephenie. @merissa we're checking in on you. Due date is soon. How are you holding up? [4/5/2018 9:06 PM] merissa4308 Hey all! Thanks for checking @@stephenie :) Our little guy actually made an early arrival Tuesday night! We're doing good and basking in the baby joy right now :) {Reactions} 🙌 [4/5/2018 9:13 PM] stephenie. Whoa!!!!! Good job, Merissa. May we see a picture? What's his name? Hope you recovering well. Give our wishes to Brandon, please. [4/5/2018 10:04 PM] tomthm9900 Congrats Merissa! [4/5/2018 10:19 PM] tomthm9900 The statements at the Meet the Candidates varied lot. It seems like most were focused on how much money we had, but on whether charging for usage was a policy that served space. While I’m not sure what he meant, Eric said more than once that Laser was the only committee that could print money. Photomancer stated that Laser started charging for time back when tuned were $10k and now they’re $2500. The fundamental question for me is this: Is charging for time an model that DMS endorses? [4/6/2018 12:56 AM] stephenie. http://support.epiloglaser.com/article/8205/11941/cleaning-vector-cutting-grid {Embed} http://support.epiloglaser.com/article/8205/11941/cleaning-vector-cutting-grid Cleaning the Laser's Vector Cutting Grid Cleaning Your Vector Grid The vector grid is an invaluable tool for operators who perform cutting tasks. With continual use, the vector grid can become dirty from the residue left behind from certain materials - especially wood. Here we'll discuss [4/6/2018 12:57 AM] stephenie. For Sunday for Blitzen's grid. Todd Bloom uses this degreaser at work. I'll pick it up. Needs to be diluted. The idea about the kennel tray is interesting. [4/6/2018 12:58 AM] stephenie. People have talked about putting the grid flat in a pickup truck bed and taking it to the DIY carwash. Using low pressure setting to rinse. Any opposition to this? [4/6/2018 1:11 AM] stephenie. On a side note, @MotoPilot, read this. http://support.epiloglaser.com/article/8205/11964/cleaning-xaxis-linear-encoder {Embed} http://support.epiloglaser.com/article/8205/11964/cleaning-xaxis-linear-encoder Cleaning the X-Axis Linear Encoder Cleaning the X-Axis Linear Encoder Strip Machines: Epilog Mini 18/24, Helix, 36EXT Laser, and FiberMark. If you are seeing wavy engraving, or the engraving seems to be drifting across the page, you probably have a dirty linear encoder. Cleanin [4/6/2018 1:12 AM] stephenie. Could this have something to do with Donner and Thunder's engraving slippage? [4/6/2018 1:14 AM] motopilot_ As far as I know they don't have linear encoders. But the stepper motors might have some kind of encoder that reports position back to the controller that might be dirty. [4/6/2018 2:54 AM] talkers I tightened 2 very loose belts on Blitzen today. When the gantry was moving in the y axis only, the x belt was actually flopping back and forth. Belts on the other thunders were OK. I cleaned the lens and mirrors on Donner too. [4/6/2018 9:06 AM] stephenie. Thank you, @john a gorman. [4/6/2018 9:36 AM] redroosterkey6994 @john a gorman is there by any chance an opening in the laser box class? I have been playing around in this area and I would be very interested in learning more. [4/6/2018 9:40 AM] talkers @redroosterkey the class is currently full. There is a chance someone does not show. I'll put you first on standby. I use 2 websites. Makercase.com and https://www.festi.info/boxes.py/ [4/6/2018 9:41 AM] talkers It's important to accurately measure the thickness of your material. [4/6/2018 9:42 AM] redroosterkey6994 Cool! So to be on standby do I just need to show up and hope someone else does not? [4/6/2018 9:51 AM] talkers Yes [4/6/2018 9:52 AM] redroosterkey6994 Ok, thank you! And this link looks really cool also! [4/6/2018 10:00 AM] talkers Makercase is nice and simple. Boxes.py has a lot more options, like living hinge. [4/8/2018 8:01 AM] davidkessinger9707 It is also a policy issue. There was a problem at one time where a chair provided food for committee meetings. [4/8/2018 11:01 AM] m9e /is there a way to break apart something that has been imported to lightburn? It wants to cut everything imported, and I can't seperate items into different objects/cut layers [4/8/2018 11:04 AM] m9e nevemind! someone else got me [4/8/2018 5:20 PM] stephenie. Another good Maintenance+Mtg Day. I don't have the sign sheet in front of me, but at least 15 people participated. They were swarming over the area. I always like to stand back for a moment to take in the sight. Then again afterwards when it looks so clean, to appreciate the difference. Two lenses were replaced...one cracked, one smoked...Donner and Thunder should be working better now. Will order a new set. Blitzen's vector grid degreased; hope it cleared out the rest of the PVC residue. Oh...and they elected me chair for the next 6 months and Scott Blevins is Vice Chair. {Reactions} 👍 (3) [4/9/2018 10:00 AM] stephenie. Team Laser, please check your Inboxes and Spam folder for an invitation to online vote for our Board of Directors. I just did this. Piece of cake. [4/9/2018 2:43 PM] merissa4308 @stephenie sorry I didnt give more details the other day. Brandon and I welcomed little Isaac to the world last Tuesday. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/432988866450948116/20180406_092202.jpg?ex=67b8d74e&is=67b785ce&hm=1a90bde8eda594e0a7b94307fc110bee292ef1f5a058ecff72b9f4a8e364b9ca& {Reactions} 🙌 (3) [4/9/2018 2:43 PM] merissa4308 Everything's been a blur since then :) [4/9/2018 2:45 PM] merissa4308 Sounds like yall are continuing to make great improvements for laser!! Glad you'll be continuing on as chair [4/9/2018 4:15 PM] stephenie. Oh my gosh! Look at him! So cute. I forget they start out so tiny. Good job, Merissa! {Reactions} 💚 (2) [4/10/2018 4:44 AM] davidkessinger9707 Congratulations! Just think how many years this project is going to take to complete! [4/10/2018 11:51 AM] kevpat Is there someone who can help adjust the price paid on the Laser. I paid for minutes instead of $1 every 5 minutes. [4/10/2018 11:59 AM] canibalcrab You would be asking for a refund [4/10/2018 12:00 PM] canibalcrab Email finance@dallasmakerspace.org [4/10/2018 6:27 PM] gbeauw Talked to Epilog TS today. They recommended we purchase and new Z-Axis belt ($11) and install that to see if that fixes the binding. Also we need to do a close inspection of the lead screws with the bed out. If the belt doesn't fix the binding, we may have to order new lead screws (~ $200). Stephenie, how do you want me to send you details of how to order the belt? [4/10/2018 6:30 PM] talkers Did they say anything about an end stop/limit switch? [4/10/2018 6:32 PM] gbeauw They said the Zing 16 doesn't have limit switches on the Z-Axis (i.e. Focus). [4/10/2018 6:33 PM] talkers 😐 [4/10/2018 6:33 PM] gbeauw exactly [4/10/2018 6:33 PM] gbeauw The way they said that seemed like other (Zing 24?) did have limit switches. [4/10/2018 6:36 PM] gbeauw [Thinking out loud.] If you think about it, when you hit the limit and the stepper motor keeps driving away. I'm not sure if the grinding sound that it makes when that happens is the belt slipping on lead screw cogs, the drive motor cogs or what. I suspect if this happens over time, the belt can certainly get worn out in spots which might lead to this binding issue. [4/10/2018 6:37 PM] talkers Could very well be [4/10/2018 6:59 PM] stephenie. @gbeauw send them to me by PM on Talk. [4/10/2018 9:08 PM] redroosterkey6994 Hey the laser accidentally hit the metal I was using to hold my material down. I did an emergency stop. I probably should have hit pause but I panicked. How do I get the laser to boot back up. [4/10/2018 9:09 PM] redroosterkey6994 Huge apologies, but I want to be transparent about it [4/10/2018 9:12 PM] redroosterkey6994 Donner BTW [4/10/2018 9:19 PM] redroosterkey6994 Anyone? [4/10/2018 9:23 PM] redroosterkey6994 @john a gorman hate to draw your attention to this 😪 [4/10/2018 9:23 PM] redroosterkey6994 My phone battery is almost dead [4/10/2018 9:31 PM] canibalcrab you have to twist the estop to untrigger it [4/10/2018 9:31 PM] canibalcrab oops [4/10/2018 9:32 PM] redroosterkey6994 Ah thank you! [4/10/2018 9:33 PM] redroosterkey6994 The estop button does not do any damage does it? [4/10/2018 9:33 PM] redroosterkey6994 Thank you for replying Pearce! I am eternally grateful [4/10/2018 10:31 PM] redroosterkey6994 I was able to finish my job and the laser seems fine as far as I can tell [4/10/2018 11:32 PM] stephenie. Thank you for letting us know, @redroosterkey [4/10/2018 11:36 PM] redroosterkey6994 Yeah, I did press the frame button but I guess if you are etching a raster it needs a little more space on the left and right. [4/11/2018 2:36 AM] talkers @redroosterkey it happens. The machines are surprisingly rugged. The red e- stop button is very safe to use. It resets the machine. And still remembers your origin. You are correct too about rastering. The machine needs a little space to accelerate. [4/14/2018 2:06 PM] stephenie. Team Laser, got your picnic tickets yet? I'm afraid of Nicole., so I bought 3. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/rage-post-why-arent-people-buying-tickets-to-the-picnic-yall-bout-to/34607 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/rage-post-why-arent-people-buying-tickets-to-the-picnic-yall-bout-to/34607 RAGE POST - Why Aren't People Buying Tickets to the Picnic? Ya'll ... Current Nicole Mood: [Unknown] To everyone waiting I’m 'bout to flip a table up on ya’ll like any sensible Chicago born Texas raised lady-friend would in this situation. I’ll insult your grandmas cooking and not fix you a plate and I’ll... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/20O_5raCbzhhYrcWcnk10nfvSeknNy19oK0im2R0xqk/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/9/7/97232d5c6f00ab8738b9c3ae62bd4e98b4c5be89.jpeg [4/14/2018 10:34 PM] pinewoodnut I got mine over a month ago. I plan to eat a lot, so I bought an extra one. 😀 Not afraid, just trying to be courteous [4/14/2018 11:00 PM] joshw0263 Got mine looking forward to fellowship in with my laser friends and making new ones. [4/14/2018 11:27 PM] talkers I'm waiting to see if I need one or 4 [4/15/2018 12:15 AM] stephenie. @JoshW I feel the same. Whenever Team Laser is together, we're talking business. So nice to have an opportunity to socialize. [4/15/2018 12:16 AM] stephenie. See you all there. [4/15/2018 2:44 PM] stephenie. Vice Chair Scott Blevins @Scott_Blevins is now on Discord. Welcome aboard. Do you have your picnic ticket? See posts above. [4/15/2018 6:27 PM] stephenie. @pinewoodnut & @john a gorman , sent you a PM on Talk. [4/15/2018 6:27 PM] talkers K [4/16/2018 10:44 PM] stephenie. Turned our expansion paperwork in. Grateful to the small "subcommittee" who worked together to meet a tight deadline: @MotoPilot , @pinewoodnut , @john a gorman, @Scott_Blevins , William Petefish, and @pearce [4/16/2018 10:44 PM] stephenie. @pearce replaced the mirrors in Thunder today. It is now cutting through 1/4" ply again in the lower right corner. I'll let him explain more. [4/16/2018 10:48 PM] stephenie. He also re-aligned Donner's bed. Alignment pins were not in alignment holes. [4/16/2018 10:59 PM] talkers Thank you @stephenie [4/16/2018 10:59 PM] talkers Thank you @pearce [4/17/2018 1:03 AM] clone1018 @stephenie I dont see it where did you send it [4/17/2018 1:18 AM] canibalcrab William petefish = @Blackfire_tx [4/17/2018 1:21 AM] canibalcrab Alignment pin and hole in the bed. If they aren't in there the bed isnt going to be flat. The 63 doesn't have these. It's a new model feature {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/435686240151666690/JPEG_20180417_012002.jpg?ex=67b96cee&is=67b81b6e&hm=ab36a198e7fa4133a179c02ef55d6b8d5db19f9f5c03b23bd71e6d6be4bb0f1c& [4/17/2018 1:43 AM] talkers The alignment pins are great. Bed is always in the same place for reference. Not so on big thunder [4/17/2018 1:51 AM] stephenie. @LukeStrickland with Alex and Chris's permission, used Google Sheets for easier team collaboration. Sent shareable link to Alex and Chris.. All is well. Thanks for checking on us. [4/17/2018 12:58 PM] clone1018 they forwarded it to me, thanks! {Reactions} dms [4/17/2018 2:55 PM] m9e are we pro or anti HDPE (starboard) with the lasers? [4/17/2018 5:32 PM] motopilot_ It is on the do not cut list. It would be a great material to be able to cut, but milling with CNC might be better. Not finding anything definitive about cutting it, but my guess is it would melt, smell bad, and wouldn't be worth the potential issues. [4/17/2018 5:33 PM] canibalcrab ^^^ [4/17/2018 5:38 PM] talkers My understanding is the meltiness as well [4/17/2018 5:38 PM] talkers Delrin works though [4/18/2018 9:52 AM] gbeauw Stephenie, did you get my PM with the quote from Epilog on the Z-Axis (i.e. Focus) belt replacement? [4/18/2018 9:58 AM] gbeauw I'm having trouble getting Discord to give me audible alerts so I may have missed some posts. Not sure what I did to cause this. Settings look fine but no Notifications on Laptop or phone anymore. [4/18/2018 12:34 PM] stephenie. Yes, I did. Expansion paperwork and my taxes have taken precedent. [4/19/2018 8:40 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-consumables/34828 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-consumables/34828 Laser Consumables [Sign_Amenities_withBackground] The polishing system works really well. Great on scrap acrylic that lost its protective masking. Goo Gone removes residue from engraved powder-coated tumblers better than any other compound so far. CerMark is use... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/srzmFoj7FfpTHZCkdxh-2yDoFhYXVqRII7SUuxSSnuM/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/b/5/b5b7988db162ef0126736a3689f3038d1a8ce9dd_1_395x500.jpg [4/19/2018 8:46 AM] talkers 🙌 [4/19/2018 8:46 AM] stephenie. $8 IKEA stand meant for craft paper. Can you believe it?!? Credit to @john a gorman for spying it, notching the bottom plate, and locating an old hacksaw blade. Stand was meant for smaller diameter rolls. John removed enough material to accomodate the 300-ft roll of masking paper. Stand did not come with a cutting edge. Hence the hacksaw blade. Used some of the paper to engrave the stand. Great paper. Much better than what I own. [4/19/2018 8:46 AM] talkers Looks better with your etching and paint [4/19/2018 8:47 AM] stephenie. Keeping up with @merissa 's standards! Laser likes to look its best. [4/19/2018 8:49 AM] stephenie. Remember we were wondering about the cutaway at the top? Turns out you can press down where that dip occurs to tear the paper against the cutting edge. [4/19/2018 8:50 AM] stephenie. @john a gorman , @tomthm, and @pinewoodnut please tell your students about these items and that they are available at no additional charge. I'll be adding a sign to the bulletin board. [4/19/2018 9:00 AM] talkers I charge my students to know what's free {Reactions} 💯 [4/19/2018 9:52 AM] redroosterkey6994 The Matthew Lesko strategy [4/19/2018 10:15 AM] furious_jorge Team Laser, ScottB and I chatted about adding mixed domain Leather and Lasers classes. Who wants to Rep the laser committee and chat with me further about this idea? I have a Mother's Day project that I think will work well for this. [4/19/2018 10:43 AM] stephenie. @FuriousJorge Are you looking for someone to co-instruct with? Or would like guidance on logistics, like how to reserve the laser, whether to do a laser demo/limit class to Laser Basics-trained members/have one person cut material, etc? [4/19/2018 10:45 AM] stephenie. P.S. we love crossover classes and will help you promote it. [4/19/2018 10:53 AM] furious_jorge Logistics mostly I think. I'm plenty comfortable using the laser to cut leather specifically so I can teach and speak to that just fine. I would like to sort out reserving, paying for use, honorarium, class fees. Most important is I don't want to misrepresent laser. I can write up a Lesson Plan if it will help. [4/19/2018 2:33 PM] stephenie. @FuriousJorge Then, as Laser Chair, I'm the person with whom to speak. Meet in person or private message? I will be at the Space tonight, fyi. [4/19/2018 4:35 PM] limeytx Exciting stuff @FuriousJorge and @stephenie love crossover ideas [4/19/2018 4:49 PM] furious_jorge @stephenie PM is fine. I'll be at the space tomorrow evening but I'm teaching a class. I'll start a PM on talk {Reactions} 👍 [4/20/2018 4:11 PM] stephenie. fyi, developing a Crossover Class Policy on a direct message with @FuriousJorge, our Instructor Team (@john a gorman, @tomthm, @pinewoodnut) and the Printmaking SIG leaders, who have already been holding successful "guerrilla" crossover classes. If you want to weigh in , ask and I will add you to the msg. [4/21/2018 8:22 PM] stephenie. Rent-a- @john a gorman for $60 at the auction. Included the right to reserve on the calendar their laser of choice for the 3-hr session - bypassing the queue (...wouldn't that be great at holiday time?) - and Team Laser waived the $36 max usage fee. [4/21/2018 8:29 PM] canibalcrab But we don't allow users to reserve the machines? [4/21/2018 9:19 PM] talkers @pearce only for classes. This was a charity exception. [4/21/2018 9:20 PM] canibalcrab that still doesnt seem right for us to do. [4/21/2018 9:31 PM] bara5725 @pearce I believe it has been posted on talk over 16 days ago. Aren’t you also active on Talk? [4/21/2018 9:34 PM] canibalcrab not really. i only get on that clusterfuck when im really bored, and even then i dont read much of it [4/21/2018 9:36 PM] canibalcrab that alone is a good reason, not many people would have known about it and will most likely be upset that they are going be kicked off a laser because someone paid for the spot [4/21/2018 9:37 PM] bara5725 It can easily be reserved via the calendar. [4/21/2018 9:38 PM] canibalcrab only for classes and not by a user [4/21/2018 9:39 PM] bara5725 It is a personal one on one class with John for 3 hours. That is not a “user” reserving it. [4/21/2018 9:40 PM] canibalcrab what was posted in the chat does not read like a class at all [4/21/2018 9:42 PM] bara5725 Discord is meant for an exchange just like a conversation. I am sorry you were confused. [4/21/2018 9:45 PM] canibalcrab im aware. i set it up. [4/21/2018 9:46 PM] bara5725 Much appreciated [4/21/2018 9:46 PM] canibalcrab johns response also makes it seem like its not a class. we are making an exception for someone paying for the reservation [4/21/2018 9:48 PM] bara5725 He said it was a charity and it is an exception because there aren’t any classes where only one student is allowed for lasers. I believe you are arguing over semantics. [4/21/2018 9:49 PM] canibalcrab im arguing that we are setting a bad precedent of paying to break rules set up over the entire space [4/21/2018 9:50 PM] canibalcrab "for charity" [4/21/2018 9:58 PM] bara5725 So a reserved one-on-one class for charity breaks the rules and you feel that this is what will cause DMS to crumble to ruins? Please elaborate. I would like to see this clause you are referring to. [4/21/2018 9:59 PM] canibalcrab thats hyperbolic and you know it. [4/21/2018 10:00 PM] canibalcrab https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/private-event-to-reserve-a-machine/12585 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/private-event-to-reserve-a-machine/12585 Private event to reserve a machine? Hypothetical question. Let's say that I would like to use .... ummm, let's say the Thunder laser (chosen completely at random). Let's say that I really hate driving to the space and waiting for someone else to finish using it and I have a ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [4/21/2018 10:01 PM] bara5725 It is not an event [4/21/2018 10:01 PM] canibalcrab its a fucking reservation on the calendar [4/21/2018 10:01 PM] bara5725 It is a one on one class [4/21/2018 10:02 PM] bara5725 Classes are usually reserved on the calendar, last I checked [4/21/2018 10:05 PM] canibalcrab I would like to see the course outline then [4/21/2018 10:08 PM] bara5725 It is not scheduled yet. Once it is, you can see it on the calendar and request an outline. [4/21/2018 10:25 PM] stephenie. Laser Chair speaking. Each committee was asked by the Board via NIcole to create a "basket" for the DMS picnic fundraiser silent auction. Laser's offering was a one-on-one non-honorarium class with one of our instructors, not to exceed 3 hours, including laser time, to be reserved on the calendar. The reservation prevents any regular user from being kicked off of a machine without notice. The online calendar + the bulletin board calendar + @john a gorman 's notice on the queue are all sufficient notice. No honorarium will be granted. No curriculum needs to be filed. [4/21/2018 10:27 PM] stephenie. My church does something similar at its silent auctions. One pew is set aside for each of the Easter and Christmas masses for the auction. They always raise hundreds of dollars for our mission trips. [4/21/2018 10:28 PM] stephenie. Team Laser is proud that they could come up with a single unique auction offering that was desirable and educational. {Reactions} 🙌 [4/21/2018 10:29 PM] stephenie. Thank you as always, @pearce , for being our watchdog. That all committees should be so fortunate. [4/21/2018 10:31 PM] stephenie. Thank you, @Bara , for addressing Pearce's concerns so accurately. Much obliged! [4/21/2018 10:56 PM] bara5725 No problem. Glad to be of assistance anytime. {Reactions} 👏 (2) [4/21/2018 11:07 PM] stephenie. Worth noting: only @merissa's major military maneuver of acquiring and installing new lasers makes this donation possible. Three lasers will still be available to serve the queue. [4/22/2018 7:53 AM] clone1018 I'm not seeing any rules or policies against it @pearce [4/22/2018 7:57 AM] clone1018 I guess the question is private inurement.... [4/25/2018 7:43 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-maintenance-mtg-sun-may-6th-11a-2p-or-be-prepared-to-work-for-this-kinda-cooking/35217 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-maintenance-mtg-sun-may-6th-11a-2p-or-be-prepared-to-work-for-this-kinda-cooking/35217 Laser Maintenance + Mtg, Sun, May 6th, 11a-2p...or "Be prepared to... [lasermeeting_May] @Team_Laser. Mark you calendars. Who knows when Scott will bless us with his cooking again? Bring something to share because we’re not small eaters on Work Day. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FiZIz3e0RovekFfcQScQ6uIVjdaGEFmjeBrjrxAsNbM/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/c/3/c35293da2250615bff135f963a6671f2772ef7f0_1_638x500.jpg [4/25/2018 8:44 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-lock-out-or-whos-got-class/35220 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-lock-out-or-whos-got-class/35220 Laser Lock Out..."Or Who's Got Class?" [CountdownToLockDown] Giving everyone a grace period to get their Laser affairs in order. (fingers crossed) https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/QBqTJrt7cd_suj9g40m31iZwK3GY51LFCuh0WxR3Y3o/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/e/0/e08b718ad6108f3744263625cb6d60869418c9ec_1_647x500.jpg [4/26/2018 8:29 PM] joshw0263 @stephenie hey I'm at the space on Thursday at 830 PM laser keys not in lock box [4/26/2018 8:32 PM] stephenie. @JoshW Because they are in my pocket. Will be there in 15 min! [4/26/2018 8:54 PM] stansimmons2031 Stephenie just put the keys back in the box [4/29/2018 12:59 AM] stephenie. I have reformatted, cleaned up and clarified the wiki rules. Not changed rules. We have lots of unwritten rules for mistakes and screw ups. I've added these. Like what to do if you go home without paying. Like you need a laser-trained proxy to watch your laser if you need to step away. And that proxy must be within arms reach of the laser...just like you. @LukeStrickland upgraded the wiki to new formatting. Took it for a test drive. [4/29/2018 1:00 AM] stephenie. Like what does clean up for yourself mean. Because apparently people need to be told. sigh. [4/29/2018 1:03 AM] stephenie. Day trip to Oklahoma. Tag, vice chair @Scott_Blevins , you're it. Because the cell reception is non-existent there. [4/29/2018 8:26 AM] scott_blevins Duly noted; I have the helm. Safe travels. {Reactions} dms 😁 [4/29/2018 4:37 PM] canibalcrab @pinewoodnut did we figure out how to turn the power limit of 70% off the new machines? I need to get 100% out of my shop laser [4/30/2018 11:56 PM] stephenie. Ryan @somecallmery's leaves us on May 11. This Sunday is his last Maintenance Day. He says his favorite desert is Reese's Peanut Butter Pie. [4/30/2018 11:56 PM] stephenie. Ryan...there are like 100 recipes online from which to choose. Help me out here. [5/1/2018 2:25 PM] stephenie. The following has been posted on our whiteboard: [5/1/2018 2:25 PM] stephenie. NEVER run more than one laser at a time. VIOLATES Rule #2 “be within arms reach” and Rule #6 “honor the queue”. AUTOMATIC invalidation of your Laser Basics training. WHY?!? Laser machines can catch on FIRE. Takes a human to put out. THREE members have been observed leaving a running laser in the last week. All have had their training invalidated. Two have been referred to the Board for further action. [5/1/2018 2:28 PM] canibalcrab Wow [5/1/2018 2:29 PM] stephenie. I ran out of room to write that all three are not allowed back in Laser for 2 weeks, the max I'm allowed per the Rules. [5/1/2018 2:30 PM] canibalcrab ? Must be new. You used to be able to ban people from committee areas [5/1/2018 2:31 PM] canibalcrab Permanently [5/1/2018 2:31 PM] stephenie. Yes. Recent. [5/1/2018 2:31 PM] stephenie. I can petition the Board for more stringent consequences and have done so for two people. [5/1/2018 2:31 PM] canibalcrab That's butts. So much for the board not micro managing [5/1/2018 2:32 PM] canibalcrab Two weeks would be nothing for some people who only show up once a week [5/1/2018 2:33 PM] stephenie. Not having been a chair under the old system, I can't compare. I can say that I am very, very pleased with the way the Board has been working with me and our Vice Chair this week. {Reactions} ✌ [5/1/2018 2:34 PM] canibalcrab It just consolidates power to fewer people. And those people are in unpaid positions so it can be a burden after a while [5/1/2018 2:35 PM] stephenie. In many ways, these are test cases for a new system. One that is more professional, less drama filled, and smoother, meaning less work. [5/1/2018 2:37 PM] stephenie. I agree about it being a burden. I've really felt that in the last week. [5/1/2018 2:37 PM] canibalcrab Less work =\\= moving petty committee things up to the board. You should be able to ban for whatever time you feel necessary and if you feel like they need a time out from the space because the offender won't respect your decision, then it gets pushed up [5/1/2018 2:38 PM] stephenie. Pause for a second. I realize I haven't given you enough information. Let me type for a moment. Bear with me. [5/1/2018 2:48 PM] stephenie. Four individuals have committed a variety of violations, discovered in the last 7 days. I have only disclosed on Discord today's notice about running multiple lasers. To everyone reading this, please notice that I have replaced the Laser Showcase on our monitor with a series of Public Service Announcement slides covering how to pay for laser time, a warning about staying with the lasers, and a list of our Rules. I am not free to discuss details at this time, nor do I have the time to do so right now. What I can tell you is that the issues with two of the four people, I was able to resolve without involving the Board. With the other two, the actions were such that petitioning the Board for more stringent consequences was necessary. I am very satisfied with the range of options available to me as Chair and believe the outcomes in all four situations are in the best interests of Laser. [5/1/2018 2:48 PM] canibalcrab I'll be back later. Hopefully you had to push an issue to the board for something like tattoo removal [5/1/2018 2:48 PM] canibalcrab Dang you posted first {Reactions} 😀 [5/1/2018 2:51 PM] canibalcrab Right, you should be able to just remove their AD accounts from the computers for whatever time you as chair feel is right. No need to come to the board. If they come back during the ban, and use a USB cable to circumvent your ban - go to board, ban from space for some amount of time [5/1/2018 2:56 PM] stephenie. If you feel strongly about this, your best course of action is to put a motion before the Board. [5/1/2018 2:56 PM] stephenie. Meanwhile, I must act within the limits currently set. [5/1/2018 2:56 PM] canibalcrab This isn't a laser chair problem btw. It's the board making more work for themselves and making the punishments take up more time in the meetings {Reactions} ☝ [5/1/2018 2:56 PM] stephenie. Understood. [5/1/2018 2:57 PM] canibalcrab I'm more upset the chairs keep losing power over their elected positions [5/1/2018 3:02 PM] stephenie. I hear you. What has made me happy this week is that the two people who committed serious multiple violations over long periods of time are being dealt with by the Board. The Board is keeping me in the loop, but they are also insulating me from more stress and work. Just as I am insulating them from unnecessary stress and work by handling the smaller violations at the committee level. It's actually working well. [5/1/2018 3:03 PM] stephenie. Oh, and it is great having an active Vice Chair. Shout out to @Scott_Blevins! [5/1/2018 3:04 PM] stephenie. So I expect the burnt out feeling to go away shortly...after I finish my Steamroller Block Print. [5/1/2018 3:05 PM] clone1018 @pearce the only thing that's changed about banning from a committee area is a committee chair cannot ban you permanently from their area [5/1/2018 3:05 PM] stephenie. Aren't the two week suspensions new? [5/1/2018 3:05 PM] stephenie. I thought Chairs previously didn't have a limit. [5/1/2018 3:07 PM] clone1018 Actually I'm not convinced you have a limit [5/1/2018 3:07 PM] clone1018 I can't find it in the rules [5/1/2018 3:07 PM] stephenie. The Chair/Vice-Chair shall be empowered to enforce the rules of the Committee, and of the Dallas Makerspace within the Committee area, and may limit access to the Committee area for a time not to exceed two weeks. The Chair may petition the Board to enforce a longer or more stringent consequence. [5/1/2018 3:08 PM] stephenie. There. [5/1/2018 3:08 PM] clone1018 What's that under? [5/1/2018 3:08 PM] stephenie. Item 3 under https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Rules_and_Policies#Committee_Responsibilities_and_Rules {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Rules_and_Policies Rules and Policies [5/1/2018 3:08 PM] clone1018 Oh i see [5/1/2018 3:08 PM] stephenie. A month would be more helpful. [5/1/2018 3:08 PM] clone1018 I always use the wrong search terms... [5/1/2018 3:09 PM] stephenie. 30 days. [5/1/2018 3:09 PM] clone1018 30 days at least allows you to ban someone until the next board meeting [5/1/2018 3:09 PM] stephenie. Exactly. [5/1/2018 3:09 PM] stephenie. More practical. [5/1/2018 3:11 PM] canibalcrab Yeah that's what I was thinking about too. 2 weeks is too short [5/1/2018 3:11 PM] canibalcrab Because the board can't take action unless they are at a meeting [5/1/2018 3:12 PM] stephenie. I asked the Board to permanently ban two members. Was very concerned that my two week suspension would end before the May 21 board meeting. [5/1/2018 3:12 PM] canibalcrab I'll have Scott added as a vice chair later tonight {Reactions} 👍 (2) [5/1/2018 3:13 PM] stephenie. Even with invalidating training, they would be eligible to retake the training on Day 15. And start lasering again between then and the Board meeting. [5/1/2018 3:14 PM] stephenie. Sounds like time for a motion on the next BoD mtg agenda. [5/1/2018 3:21 PM] scott_blevins Sorry for the late entry into the fray, but have been in Executive meetings all day with folks 3-4 pay grades above me. Thanks for the kind words Stephenie, but It’s your World; I’m just living in it. :). I think it would be helpful to have a (lasered?) version of our Ten Commandments posted prominently on the wall for all to see. Heck, I’d even go so far as to have it in the shape of Cecil B. DeMille stone tablets. Just in the past week, I had a dude (non-member) not knowing who I was, ask me if I could laser something for him. Right after that, I witnessed a guy walk away from an active Laser job. Heck, even a “smile, you’re on candid camera” sign might help people who are morally ambiguous follow the rules. You’re doing a great job Stephenie. Do NOT burn out; That is an order. [5/1/2018 3:23 PM] clone1018 rofl @stephenie [5/1/2018 3:23 PM] clone1018 I was trying to create that page [5/1/2018 3:23 PM] stephenie. LOL. Are you going to create a motion to increase limit to 30 days? [5/1/2018 3:23 PM] clone1018 No I was just trying to make the new meeting page [5/1/2018 3:24 PM] clone1018 You beat me to it by seconds [5/1/2018 3:25 PM] gbeauw I concur with @Scott_Blevins you are doing a great job, Stephenie. I think there's going to be some rough spots as you get many of the things under control but it looks to me like very good progress at bringing order to the laser area. Hope you don't burn out. [5/1/2018 3:26 PM] stephenie. @Scott_Blevins Currently playing on overhead monitor. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/440972319306022912/LaserRules_11.jpg?ex=67b8e179&is=67b78ff9&hm=404fa3d8c2c13b3976944ae6c093062b315ce4a7915601a4d6c455b07067a815& [5/1/2018 3:27 PM] stephenie. @gbeauw Zing part is in the server room, waiting for install on Sunday. @StanSimmons will get you into the server room. [5/1/2018 3:28 PM] scott_blevins It looks great on the monitor. Thinking we need to post it even more prominently. [5/1/2018 3:29 PM] stephenie. Agreed. I'd also like to change #2 to say "Must monitor laser and remain with in arms reach for duration of your job." [5/1/2018 3:30 PM] gbeauw Thanks, Stephenie. I'll try to install it Sunday. {Reactions} dms [5/1/2018 3:33 PM] scott_blevins And not to get too Old Testament on everybody, but there needs to be some language along the lines of..”Laser Privileges Are Too Cool To Lose, so Don’t Be ‘That Member’” on the sign. [5/1/2018 3:34 PM] scott_blevins I’m generally not about accentuating punishment, but... [5/1/2018 3:35 PM] stephenie. ...but a Laser fire threatens the whole facility and everyone within. [5/1/2018 3:35 PM] scott_blevins Excellent point. [5/1/2018 3:36 PM] stephenie. Make us a sign, Scott. [5/1/2018 3:36 PM] stephenie. Please. [5/1/2018 3:36 PM] scott_blevins LOL, okay but we need to align on language. [5/1/2018 3:37 PM] stephenie. Schedule a meeting with me. [5/1/2018 3:37 PM] stephenie. I am sick of typing. [5/1/2018 3:38 PM] scott_blevins Lol...drinks over typing then it is. {Reactions} 👍 [5/1/2018 3:38 PM] scott_blevins Gtg...ciao all [5/1/2018 3:38 PM] stephenie. Me, too. I'm wording a motion before the board re: extending the suspension. [5/1/2018 3:39 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/440975540514455552/PhotoFunia-1525207096.jpg?ex=67b8e479&is=67b792f9&hm=f26d74890ea9608d1e024896575428c39d55df4bc32f471c3a15f8e7b0402563& {Reactions} 💯 🙌 👍 [5/1/2018 3:39 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/440975555135799326/PhotoFunia-1525207144.jpg?ex=67b8e47d&is=67b792fd&hm=fa258e3877cfaff73926863e68098ce49320e1f0f7d2ae2148f918f3b2234c3d& [5/1/2018 3:39 PM] stephenie. then more Steamroller Block Print work before Paul and Astrud beat me about the head and neck for missing a deadline. [5/1/2018 3:39 PM] canibalcrab I hit text limits [5/1/2018 3:39 PM] stephenie. Pearce. That's amazing. [5/1/2018 4:28 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/bod-agenda-item-increase-length-of-maximum-committee-area-suspension/35469 [5/1/2018 4:28 PM] stephenie. Reconsidered the length. 30 days doesn't cut it. Needs to be until the end of the subsequent month to account for the irregular scheduling of the Board meetings. [5/1/2018 5:04 PM] clone1018 Thanks for the brainpower! [5/1/2018 5:24 PM] davidkessinger9707 Might add to your rules: If you have an outstanding balance you can not use the Lasers until paid current. This avoids bans - it's a payment and use policy. [5/1/2018 5:46 PM] stephenie. That implies that we are tracking balances. Which we are not. Payment is rendered at time of service. If a member gives me cause to have to spend my valuable time auditing Square data, login files, and watching camera footage until 5 in the morning to come up with their balance, I am going to suspend their access to Laser and then I'm going to invalidate their training because clearly they weren't listening when John and Tommy covered payment. Time for a re-take. Now if someone missed one payment and they fess up right away and have a plan to pay at next visit, thereby demonstrating high character and Not.Wasting.My.Time, I will not bust their chops. I will thank them for setting a good example, trust them to make it right, and tell them to go forth and sin no more. [5/1/2018 5:57 PM] canibalcrab Do we have a test at the end yet? [5/1/2018 5:57 PM] stephenie. There was one back in the day when LB was held in a classroom. Now they are held at crowded, noisy Laser. [5/1/2018 6:01 PM] canibalcrab I'm just thinking the offender will bum through a class and not pay attention [5/1/2018 6:02 PM] stephenie. I hear you. [5/1/2018 6:03 PM] canibalcrab Have a way to log offences? Probably something the other committees could copy [5/1/2018 6:05 PM] stephenie. Interesting. [5/1/2018 6:07 PM] canibalcrab The test taken by them with their name on it gives you something to point to and say "you are knowingly breaking this rule" [5/1/2018 6:07 PM] canibalcrab "AGAIN" [5/1/2018 6:08 PM] canibalcrab No chance for them to say "oh I must have missed that" [5/1/2018 6:53 PM] talkers We should consider a second monitor. The dynamic display of the rules is eye catching, esp as @stephenie and @pearce have generated them. We would still want the primary monitor for the showcase and for classes. Once the expansion plan is in place, we will most likely need another monitor as well. [5/1/2018 7:02 PM] stephenie. We need a second whiteboard, next to exisiting one. [5/1/2018 7:02 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman do you want a 2nd monitor before the expansion? [5/1/2018 7:05 PM] talkers We can discuss it Sunday. Prob best to wait to know what size would benefit us most [5/1/2018 8:28 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/04-30-18-office-hours-report/35485 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/04-30-18-office-hours-report/35485 04/30/18 Office Hours Report Wow. By another measure, this should have been called a class, not an event. 2.5 hours of intense Inkscape, laser operation, rotary engraver operation and design review attended by 5 members: Bob @bobjeppson, Rani @Trivial, Frank, Diana and Ala... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [5/1/2018 8:34 PM] scott_blevins 👨🏻‍🎓👩🏻‍🎓👩🏻‍🎓👨🏻‍🎓👩🏻‍🎓 [5/2/2018 11:52 AM] clone1018 Is the Zing down? [5/2/2018 12:27 PM] canibalcrab Is the compressed air back up? [5/2/2018 12:59 PM] scott_blevins My understanding is that of late last night the air compressor was an issue keeping the lasers from being operational. I do not know the current status of the air compressor. [5/2/2018 1:02 PM] clone1018 Based on talk the compressor is operational [5/2/2018 1:02 PM] clone1018 I'll be there at 5 either way [5/2/2018 1:23 PM] canibalcrab I'll be in, in a bit. I'll peek at the zing {Reactions} 👍 dms (2) [5/2/2018 3:46 PM] canibalcrab Zing does not appear to be zinging [5/2/2018 3:59 PM] stephenie. Ah, I see we're speaking in scientific terms. [5/2/2018 3:59 PM] stephenie. calling @gbeauw, who will be interested. [5/2/2018 4:03 PM] canibalcrab It was a quick test, but it was not cutting on a file I had previously used for production [5/2/2018 4:05 PM] canibalcrab Like not firing the laser at all. I'll get back to it after this printer repair [5/2/2018 4:05 PM] clone1018 Awesome thanks pearce [5/2/2018 4:05 PM] clone1018 My wife was v confused lol [5/2/2018 4:06 PM] canibalcrab It could just think one of the safeties is being triggered [5/2/2018 4:07 PM] clone1018 Do we have air compressor on? [5/2/2018 4:10 PM] canibalcrab Yeah [5/2/2018 4:52 PM] blackfire_tx9040 Teh compressor is being temp fixed by a pair of vice grips [5/2/2018 4:53 PM] clone1018 Beautiful. [5/2/2018 11:47 PM] stephenie. @pearce fixed the Zing. [5/3/2018 12:33 AM] talkers @pearce thank u. What was the cause and fix to the zing? [5/3/2018 12:34 AM] canibalcrab Problem. Tester did not turn on blower fan. Solution. Turn on blower fan. [5/3/2018 12:36 AM] talkers Lol, thank you [5/3/2018 7:07 AM] scott_blevins Lol... [5/4/2018 8:04 AM] scott_blevins Laser SME’s, Quick Reminder - Laser Committee Meeting : This Sunday / 11:00am- 2:00pm. Committee Meeting at 11:00am in Purple Classroom, followed by Laser Maintenance and a tasty bbq lunch. Hope to see you there! {Reactions} ✌ [5/6/2018 1:18 PM] kriskat309685 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/team-laser-maintenance-day-or-holy-smokes-im-in-love-with-scotts-brisket/35718 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/team-laser-maintenance-day-or-holy-smokes-im-in-love-with-scotts-brisket/35718 Team Laser maintenance day. OR HOLY SMOKES IM IN LOVE WITH SCOTTS ... [39879B46-1109-43FC-B076-12B029DDF894][C4E5BAF1-C52B-4C0D-BEE7-34BCB9919E0C]Many thanks to @Team_Laser for inviting me to laser maintenance day and their monthly meeting. Very productive and great team work! And I’ve decided @Scott_Blevins mak... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CFKWTO-O-gqyNnWAtd7OxRcGFFmeubjOem2HARfrNdU/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/1/3/13c67afb062f2a3c8edb7ae444840a2bf3743910_1_375x500.jpeg [5/6/2018 10:06 PM] stephenie. Hello, Team Laser. Missed being with you today. Thanks for supporting the machines and each other. Was glad to see Sayed and @MotoPilot visit us at the Steamroll Print event. Laser was used to either transfer patterns for hand engraving or performing the engraving on a few of the pieces. So exciting! [5/6/2018 10:11 PM] stephenie. I'm wrung out though. It's been a long two weeks for me. Precious little sleep. You heard why at the committee meeting, followed by catching up on my engraving. I snapped at @MotoPilot today when he was kidding around. Not proud of myself. My sense of humor died about 7 days ago. Need to lay low and recharge for a few days and wanted to let you all know. Will keep an eye on Discord and Talk, though. [5/6/2018 10:16 PM] motopilot_ You did? I didn’t notice. Get some rest! [5/6/2018 10:16 PM] stephenie. I said "shut up" [5/6/2018 10:16 PM] stephenie. strongly. [5/6/2018 10:17 PM] stephenie. In front of your kids! Gosh, that's low. [5/6/2018 10:17 PM] stephenie. And you're not the only one. I've snapped at more than a few recently. I suspect sleep will fix all. [5/6/2018 10:18 PM] scott_blevins Team, thank you for a productive laser Committee meeting and laser maintenance day. We had over 15 people show up for both the meeting AND the maintenance effort. Great turn out today! I will post meeting minutes when I get some time in the next 24 hours. {Reactions} 🙌 [5/6/2018 10:20 PM] stephenie. 15! That's amazing. I feel conflicted about missing the brisket, but enjoying the steamroll event. [5/8/2018 10:11 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/donner-flares-up-and-has-red-soot-on-laser-head/35946 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/donner-flares-up-and-has-red-soot-on-laser-head/35946 Donner flares up, and has red soot on laser head ISSUE: Laser : Donner: @Team_Laser Details of ISSUE or REQUEST (Please be as specific as possible): Hey all, I was using Donner this morning to cut chipboard and there were two things I noticed. I got a pretty bad flare up when cutting (22 sp... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [5/8/2018 10:14 AM] stephenie. Told Jorge to put a note on machine and place it out of order. Checking logs now. @somecallmery was using it late last night without problems. [5/8/2018 10:15 AM] stephenie. According to logs, Shaun Dixon was using it between Ryan and @FuriousJorge . He works with red acrylic. Betting that the air assist was left off. [5/8/2018 10:18 AM] stephenie. Notified Jorge on Talk. Will swing by Space to verify. [5/8/2018 12:13 PM] stephenie. Yup. Air Assist flag. [5/8/2018 5:09 PM] clone1018 I'm paying $2 for my wife's zing usage she forgot to pay {Reactions} dms [5/9/2018 11:28 AM] stephenie. DMS-wide Member Meeting on Friday at 7pm. Expect expansion to be main topic. It's what's on everyone's mind. I'm bringing hot food to share. Team Laser making a showing would be a good thing. [5/9/2018 11:28 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/reminder-friday-may-11-7pm-monthly-member-meeting/35948 [5/11/2018 11:15 PM] canibalcrab From Donner {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/444714140095873024/JPEG_20180511_231453.jpg?ex=67b94f51&is=67b7fdd1&hm=1ed93092a509c8c000ba3b79c5ec67c94b2f9bea13cb41becf7bd47999bbaf03& [5/12/2018 6:21 AM] redroosterkey6994 What is it? [5/12/2018 10:13 AM] canibalcrab That's the lens. It should look like clear yellow glass but the foggy circle is damage. Think of it like a cataract [5/12/2018 10:14 AM] redroosterkey6994 No Bueno [5/12/2018 6:34 PM] stephenie. New lenses ordered. Plus masking paper. Wiki updated with purchasing links under Additional Documentation, so future orders are a click away. [5/12/2018 6:35 PM] stephenie. https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee#Additional_Documentation {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee Laser Committee [5/12/2018 8:37 PM] stephenie. Started order for 3 heat sensors @ $60/each. U.S. distributor said 4 days ago that they will be in stock in a few days. Because they are located in TX, I've sent them a Tax Exempt Form. More waiting. [5/12/2018 10:47 PM] canibalcrab Nice [5/13/2018 10:34 PM] pinewoodnut I just realized that I forgot to pay for laser time. I'll be back tomorrow to pay..... Sorry {Reactions} 😶 🙄 😆 🤑 [5/13/2018 10:56 PM] talkers Doh! I owe $3 as well. I had hoped to finish another project but ran out of time. [5/15/2018 10:10 AM] stephenie. @john a gorman is holding office hours a week from today. Thanks, John. I'll advertise it on the board. {Reactions} ✌ [5/16/2018 2:29 AM] stephenie. Lenses arrived today. @pinewoodnut {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/446212528272572418/NewLenses.jpg?ex=67b8d40c&is=67b7828c&hm=4006ba7bd8cdb4ba2a17b51d15f14f4ff78b49f3e0c83c6fa55375b24e54d4ec& [5/16/2018 1:22 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/may-22nd-laser-office-hours-or-how-may-we-help-you/36395 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/may-22nd-laser-office-hours-or-how-may-we-help-you/36395 May 22nd Laser Office Hours...or "How May We Help You?" [8x10Sign_LaserOfficeHours] Two weeks ago, we had a terrific turnout. Five members got the in-depth help they needed. Thank you to @pinewoodnut and @sawdeck who helped out then. I plan to be one of the helpers on the 22nd. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/R6GGc7NcfcUsRgzOYNR-O-ezWiGgiNfL2altYUF_y0Y/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/c/4/c4317234b62f45af371d3b894f1b6901ded95944_1_647x500.jpg [5/16/2018 5:56 PM] stephenie. New roll in. First roll not used up yet, but almost. Will have lasted a little over a month. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/446445868971982848/LaserMaskingPaper.jpg?ex=67b9049d&is=67b7b31d&hm=d26c8c4ca7dc8b161c873678e0f716a1ede195fdbb01a210131e944cc5076651& [5/16/2018 5:57 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman says he'll test the new lenses tomorrow unless someone else wants the gig. [5/17/2018 1:48 AM] stephenie. Laser's meeting with the Expansion Committee is set for Thursday, May 24. I cannot bring you guys with me. Troy's modular footprints for the workstations will be important. I may be asking some of you who understand more than I do, for support and prep beforehand. Please stay tuned. {Reactions} 👍 [5/17/2018 8:53 AM] stephenie. If you see that the roll of masking paper is finished, new roll is in the short cabinet. Used the last bit of room to store it. [5/17/2018 9:18 AM] stephenie. Using the last few square inches left in Laser to add 2 more short cabinets. Conferred with @pinewoodnut, @JoshW , @Scott_Blevins , and @john a gorman. There's a need for an unlocked cabinet open to our users. They moved the tombstone next to Blitzen. Current cabinet will move to NE corner. New cabinets will fit at end of Donner. Buying same brand in 3D Fab and CA from Sam's Club. $150 each vs $240-300 for our existing brand. Will need help with pickup and delivery and assembly. Who has trunk space and time? [5/17/2018 3:06 PM] gbeauw Still trying to get Epilog TS to send me the next procedure to try to fix the bed binding issue. I'm having to "dun" them as they promised to email me the info we need and I have yet to see it. [5/17/2018 3:31 PM] scott_blevins Thanks Beau [5/18/2018 6:18 AM] stephenie. Let me know what we need to order. Thanks for sticking with this. [5/18/2018 10:05 AM] gbeauw Finally got an email back from them but I don't fully understand it. I need to have another phone conversation with them to clarify details. Standby for more on this. {Reactions} dms (2) [5/21/2018 3:47 PM] stephenie. Hello, Team Laser. Just a heads up that on tonight's Board agenda are Laser's petitions to permanently ban two members from Laser, though the Board may choose to ban them from DMS completelyl. One for theft of service ($840) and walking away from a running laser. The other for theft of service ($100+), leaving the Laser Area for periods of 5, 7 and 15 mins while laser was running, and operating two lasers at once. The process leading up to this was a learning one for both me and the new Board. To close a loophole, I have placed a motion before for the Board to extend the limit a Chair can restrict access to their Area, from the current 2 weeks to the end of the following month. I would appreciate the company of any of Team Laser, if your schedules allow. No worries if they don't. [5/21/2018 3:48 PM] canibalcrab Good Lord $840 [5/21/2018 4:01 PM] stephenie. That we know of. [5/21/2018 4:02 PM] stephenie. It's been paid back. fyi [5/21/2018 8:47 PM] stephenie. Update: Board passed motions to permanently ban two members from DMS, not just Laser, for the above described infractions. They also passed the motion to close the access loophole as written. [5/23/2018 1:07 PM] talkers Beautiful new cabinets [5/23/2018 1:08 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/448910068449280000/CameraZOOM-20180523130808542.jpg?ex=67b969d4&is=67b81854&hm=07289910dd6b6f05a3aeca049fb31000dda5aa9f6e1dbf2c922c005d64b1a5a0& [5/23/2018 1:08 PM] talkers And they do not block the fans [5/23/2018 1:08 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/448910143472533505/CameraZOOM-20180523130658486.jpg?ex=67b969e6&is=67b81866&hm=664ba20ff28255f4c13455636013b773a8b9c4dc81016f4ecdc265b571b7a3d1& [5/23/2018 2:10 PM] davidkessinger9707 They look great and have held up so far in all the committee areas. I think the various cabinets that Sam's sells in this serious are a great buy. The tall work tables in CA get real workouts and are doing just fine. I would like to suggest that a block or something be put between the laser and the cabinet so they can't be pushed back accidentally. [5/23/2018 2:17 PM] clone1018 Isnt that what the wood there is? [5/23/2018 2:21 PM] talkers @LukeStrickland exactly [5/23/2018 2:21 PM] talkers Those cabinets are a fantastic bargain. [5/23/2018 4:08 PM] davidkessinger9707 Luke: Not sure what they are, could be part of machine. If that's what they are for then great. I would probably double them, if possible, to ensure minimal airflow restriction since the exhaust has to make an immediate right angle turn. Heat is a real enemy. [5/23/2018 4:12 PM] talkers @David Kessinger that is what they are. Each fan has one on either side [5/23/2018 4:43 PM] talkers Welcome @holoptics to the laser team [5/23/2018 5:08 PM] talkers Illustrator is no longer working on Donner. 63 is still down [5/23/2018 11:27 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman please open a ticket on Talk. @StanSimmons has a stronger team now on Infrastructure. [5/24/2018 11:40 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-maintenance-mtg-sun-june-3rd-11a-2-or-laser-has-a-spokesmodel/36785 [5/24/2018 3:42 PM] talkers Did anyone order 2 sheets of 12"*24" acrylic from Johnson's? One sheet is mirrored red [5/24/2018 3:42 PM] talkers They arrived yesterday at the Space without a name on the order [5/24/2018 4:01 PM] canibalcrab Sounds like we need to cut 2 big DMS logos from them [5/24/2018 4:17 PM] talkers Lol, yes. That might be the best response. [5/24/2018 4:19 PM] canibalcrab I saw the mirrored red, would make a good sign [5/24/2018 5:17 PM] scott_blevins I know our soon-to-be Cal-Tech student was lasering mirrored acrylic recently. [5/24/2018 5:19 PM] talkers From the Epilog website [5/24/2018 5:19 PM] talkers "There is no need for concern that your laser will be damaged by any reflected light, since the light does not penetrate the surface layer of glass to reach the reflective backing of the mirror. ... So as you can see, mirror is safe and aesthetically pleasing to engrave on either side." [5/24/2018 5:20 PM] talkers http://support.epiloglaser.com/article/8205/29907/mirror-engraving {Embed} http://support.epiloglaser.com/article/8205/29907/mirror-engraving Mirror Engraving Mirror Engraving from the Front and Back Mirror engraves beautifully with a CO2 laser and allows you to create different effects depending on which side of the mirror you are etching. Read on to learn more. In this photo we've engraved half of th [5/24/2018 5:28 PM] canibalcrab i just cut with the matte side up. you cant raster the shiny side anyway, the reflection makes the raster double up and look odd from any angle other than dead on [5/27/2018 12:56 PM] stephenie. I made a change to the Go/No Go list. Reduced the wood/ply/mdf max thickness to 1/2 inch. On Talk, Evan was reporting fire at 3/4 thickness. 3/4" through-cuts are best left to woodshop. Plus the cuts hourglass at high thicknesses and take multiple passes. [5/27/2018 12:57 PM] stephenie. Went to check the Laser Basics training materials for consistency. Made a couple of updates. Read through the list. [5/27/2018 12:58 PM] stephenie. Does anyone have an objection to removing the section on Go/No Go materials from the LB documents and replacing them with a link to the wiki page? The online doc would have a live link. [5/27/2018 12:59 PM] stephenie. We can include a bitly and a QR code. [5/27/2018 1:00 PM] stephenie. The wiki needs to be our one-stop shopping for critical info. We can't afford to have inconsistencies. [5/27/2018 1:00 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman? [5/27/2018 3:12 PM] stephenie. anyone on site to clean Donner's mirrors and lens. Evan was on Donner when cutting the mdf. [5/27/2018 3:16 PM] canibalcrab I'd say remove them from the slide show but still go over the list in class [5/27/2018 3:17 PM] canibalcrab I don't think I'll be at the space tonight, but if I do go i will clean the lasers [5/27/2018 5:21 PM] pinewoodnut I cleaned everything and used the opportunity to show Tommy how to do the cleaning. Evan reported that he was talking about something from a year ago, but Donner's lens was filthy from something. It took at least 10 swabs to clean the air nozzle/bottom of the lens. It had a cloudy haze and the swab kept coming back yellow. It eventually all cleaned off and it's working fine now. Went ahead and cleaned Blitzen and big thunder while we were there. The rest of the cleaning can wait for next week and we'll look at the optics again just because. Happy holiday weekend to everyone. {Reactions} dms (2) [5/27/2018 10:14 PM] stephenie. Thanks, @pinewoodnut ! I need to learn to clean a lens. [5/27/2018 10:15 PM] pinewoodnut I'll show you the next time we are there..... Or Sunday at the maintenance [5/27/2018 10:16 PM] canibalcrab Step 1. Swab. Step 2. More swab. Step 3. Swab more swab. Step 4. Forever swabbing. This is your life now. Settle in [5/28/2018 12:05 PM] redroosterkey6994 Laser receipt printer is out of paper. Is this something I am allowed to refill? [5/28/2018 12:05 PM] redroosterkey6994 If so, let me know where the rolls are. [5/28/2018 12:06 PM] redroosterkey6994 And if not, I’ll open a ticket later [5/28/2018 12:31 PM] clone1018 Under the sink in the front hallway [5/28/2018 12:36 PM] redroosterkey6994 Thanks, I have replaced the printer paper [5/29/2018 8:54 AM] redroosterkey6994 Well I tried *shrug* [5/30/2018 12:11 AM] stephenie. @redroosterkey seemed to work. Thanks for stepping up. [5/30/2018 12:50 AM] stephenie. Maintenance Day on Sunday. Ruebens. Practicing....rye is trickier than the croissants for the hot ham and cheese sandwiches. [5/30/2018 1:30 PM] pinewoodnut I've got a derby on Sunday, so I won't be able to attend the meeting it the maintenance session. Enjoy the ruebens! [5/31/2018 12:54 AM] stephenie. Thanks for the heads up. Good luck with the derby. [6/1/2018 1:01 PM] stephenie. Answering all your questions about expansion at Sunday's Committee Meeting. FYI. starts at 11am. [6/1/2018 1:06 PM] canibalcrab Individual vents and blowers for all lasers? Place them in ceiling? My sleep schedule will prevent me from being alive enough to go to the meeting [6/1/2018 1:07 PM] canibalcrab A side to that, we could push for the space to own their own cherry picker. [6/1/2018 1:07 PM] stephenie. We're limited on the number of roof piercings, fyi. Which limits everything for us. No more piercings allowed in current suite. [6/1/2018 1:08 PM] stephenie. Cherry picker or scissor lift? [6/1/2018 1:08 PM] canibalcrab But the new one gets like 6? [6/1/2018 1:08 PM] stephenie. 4 [6/1/2018 1:08 PM] canibalcrab Scissor lift sorry. Much safer [6/1/2018 1:08 PM] stephenie. Some of us are already talking about a scissor lift. [6/1/2018 1:09 PM] canibalcrab Yeah it came up a while back too. [6/1/2018 1:09 PM] canibalcrab But it would resolve a lot of the "but we can't fix stuff in the ceiling" arguments [6/1/2018 1:10 PM] canibalcrab But the blowers almost never die anymore [6/1/2018 1:10 PM] canibalcrab *blower dies* [6/1/2018 1:29 PM] stephenie. stop.it. [6/1/2018 1:29 PM] stephenie. Don't you dare jinx us! [6/7/2018 10:26 AM] gbeauw Sorry I couldn't make maintenance day. I was in Netherlands visiting friends. I still need to get with Epilog on bed binding issue but I've been swamped with other projects that are demanding 110% of my attention. [6/7/2018 1:46 PM] scott_blevins I need to get back to the Netherlands soon. I miss the weather and the bicycles. [6/8/2018 5:22 PM] stephenie. Sigh. I'd just be happy to get anywhere. My vacation - i.e. Nick going to Philmont high adventure camp - has been cancelled. Camp closed due to wildfires. [6/8/2018 5:23 PM] stephenie. Potluck and member meeting tonight, Team Laser. Bring something to share. I'm tapped out with cooking, fyi. Would love to see you again. [6/8/2018 6:30 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/june-2018-meeting-minutes-member-meeting-report/37588 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/june-2018-meeting-minutes-member-meeting-report/37588 June 2018 Meeting Minutes + Member Meeting Report Laser Committee Action Items: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RpKt46AY-UbctIcSm9UzNQ2gSadPdOZRI6O8VVqJ-gA Meeting Minutes: 06/03/18. MONTHLY COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES Attendees: Stephenie Webb, Chair (@heyheymama); Scott Blevins, Vice Chair (@Scott_Blevins); Josh Wi... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wzZOQRndLklsFYFfB0bLHehm1_QcJeniOkE_C5Lek3k/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/6/8/687df50349d80d1d5a17f9b2369721dedcaa12ec.jpg [6/8/2018 6:30 PM] stephenie. Thank you to Troy for taking minutes! [6/8/2018 10:18 PM] limeytx Does anyone speak funky?? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/454846685739352064/JPEG_20180608_221729.jpg?ex=67b941fc&is=67b7f07c&hm=4038e964ee2dcc862495340a453ddeb699578e04ed91f5a3b4efb54950c7178a& {Reactions} 😂 [6/8/2018 10:36 PM] canibalcrab One of them will have a language menu that says english [6/9/2018 6:45 AM] scott_blevins I have run into this language situation on more than one occasion. Does anyone know if it’s some default language setting that presents itself from time to time? A bug? I seriously doubt Members are proactively selecting this view as their default. [6/9/2018 12:38 PM] pinewoodnut The login script should take care of this. Just log out and when you log in, wait about 30 seconds. You should see a black box open/close. Then you can open rdworks. The script should set everything back to our defaults..... English is one of the defaults [6/9/2018 3:03 PM] canibalcrab It does it on my laptop at my workshop too. Seems entirely random [6/13/2018 3:31 PM] clone1018 @stephenie Push for action! Hold responsible persons accountable! [6/13/2018 3:31 PM] clone1018 😃 [6/13/2018 5:48 PM] stephenie. Only one PC without an Illustrator license, Donner's. [6/13/2018 7:12 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-laser-issue/37799 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-laser-issue/37799 Thunder laser issue Thunder laser would not allow new jobs to be done. It keeps going back to the previous job. Then when the lid was open, it started burning hole in my wood. Just message @heyheymama to let her know. ISSUE or REQUEST: Affected Tool or Resource: Committee, Group or Volunteer ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [6/13/2018 7:13 PM] stephenie. I've got a previous engagement. Is anyone around who can purge the file log on (I'm assuming) Big Thunder? Also ask about the laser firing with the lid open...that is concerning. [6/15/2018 9:05 AM] stephenie. @pinewoodnut Thanks for taking care of this! [6/15/2018 10:30 AM] pinewoodnut No worries. I was already up there. [6/15/2018 10:33 AM] pinewoodnut Does anyone know if the rdworks login script sets the rotary settings? I found it was set to 1000 instead of 16000 steps. Someone else said they had the same issue. [6/15/2018 1:14 PM] stephenie. @MotoPilot is out of town, fyi. Looking at the script I'd say, no, it doesn't set the steps. [6/15/2018 1:19 PM] stephenie. Ben Hoggatt is teaching an interesting new class to support Laser usage. His first ever. https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/6314 [6/15/2018 1:34 PM] clone1018 Every project he works on is larger than life [6/15/2018 1:34 PM] clone1018 pretty amazing [6/15/2018 3:00 PM] stephenie. I had to move the class to Purple. Attendance up to 12. Conference Room no longer up to snuff. [6/15/2018 4:11 PM] motopilot_ not quite yet... no it doesn't change any of those settings AFAIK. [6/15/2018 5:24 PM] pinewoodnut @MotoPilot I ran a test while I was up there today. It does change the setting back to 1000 when the script runs. Maybe we can adjust the setting to 16000 and run another export of the files. [6/15/2018 11:10 PM] motopilot_ Ok. Any idea it it does that on the other ones too?? They should all be using the same settings file. [6/16/2018 8:04 PM] pinewoodnut I checked 2 machines and they both did it. [6/17/2018 10:32 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/458111730367725589/photo_2018-06-17_22-28-01.jpg?ex=67b9454b&is=67b7f3cb&hm=1877b1e249db57d8a0e000efdb9b9ba1c6449a837e95961b2b01552cd66e07fb& [6/17/2018 10:33 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/458112035583164418/photo_2018-06-17_22-27-27.jpg?ex=67b94594&is=67b7f414&hm=4a4c55a557821ffdef29014705b41c05c785af75368014f7e162e9b531d3019c& [6/17/2018 10:34 PM] stephenie. Addressing egress safety issue. [6/19/2018 3:31 PM] pseudonym01 Laser Cutter Turns Scrapped To Shipped http://hackaday.com/2018/06/19/laser-cutter-turns-scrapped-to-shipped/ {Embed} Tom Nardi http://hackaday.com/2018/06/19/laser-cutter-turns-scrapped-to-shipped/ Laser Cutter Turns Scrapped To Shipped We’ll go way out on a limb here and say you’ve probably got a ridiculous amount of flattened cardboard boxes. We’re buying more stuff online than ever before, and all those boxes … https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8j4U1vKHUCkthGTqWFDfjD0FnRl9232_ivRc8O_QeZw/https/hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/laserbox_feat.jpg [6/19/2018 6:33 PM] andrew5152 I've got my template for my laser-cut-from-scrap-shipping-box riiight here on my fusion365 cloud...where I've never actually managed to get it to the laser cutters, and now, all the stuff I intended to ship with it has "been handled". [6/19/2018 6:36 PM] bara5725 Usually have to export/save from fusion360 to .dxf then can import but lines may not be perfect. If not perfect, then open .dxf in illustrator [6/20/2018 2:03 AM] talkers @Bara spot on [6/20/2018 12:31 PM] andrew5152 Oh yeah. Thank you. Did all that. Just never managed to get my tail end to DMS with enough free time for both me and the laser to try it out... [6/21/2018 2:28 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/maintenance-day-committee-meeting-sunday-july-1st-2018-11a-2p/38102 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/maintenance-day-committee-meeting-sunday-july-1st-2018-11a-2p/38102 Maintenance Day + Committee Meeting, Sunday, July 1st, 2018, 11a - 2p [July_Bulletinboard] https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IfG9cqta_U1oZjTFEAVoZuZrBUgqoqn9qPGzrGu1JDE/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/d/b/dbfc0bf618ce2c5d38b926ba822e7008d84871fb_1_645x500.jpg [6/21/2018 5:22 PM] scott_blevins *Clears his 3rd person speaking voice* “Scott doesn’t just ‘say’ he’s making Cuban sandwiches for the July 1 Laser Maintenance Day Team, he’s actually smoking 8 lbs. of pork shoulder over hickory, cherry and apple wood for 16 hours and he’s pre-ordering authentic handmade Cuban bread from a local Cuban bakery in Carrollton.” ~Nuff Said {Reactions} 🍻 👌 [6/21/2018 6:00 PM] stephenie. You're going to put me out of business. [6/24/2018 11:37 AM] pinewoodnut Anytime know where the keys are? I came up to take some pics of the HD and 4" lenses, but the keys are missing. The last time I saw them was earlier in the week. [6/24/2018 4:43 PM] scott_blevins Laser keys issue resolved: Your Vice Chair found them in his cargo shorts at midnight last night. They are back in the lockbox as of 12:15pm today. David, thank you for the 1-1 laser lens maintenance overview and the Laser Optics discussion. Very much looking forward to this ‘107’ class coming into existence. [6/27/2018 10:21 PM] .comter There appears to be an issue with the Thunder Laser 63 bed. It is not in line with the edges of the hole so the bed at the top left corner is catching and not allowing the bed to raise any further. It appears that the bed is bolted to the frame (won't move). [6/27/2018 11:32 PM] .comter Problem solved. [6/28/2018 6:40 AM] talkers Here is the related thread on the problem @Comter ran into: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-63-bed-leveled-possible-recurring-problem/38394 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-63-bed-leveled-possible-recurring-problem/38394 Thunder 63 bed leveled. Possible recurring problem @Comter discovered a problem tonight using Thunder 63. The bed had shifted and was caught under the frame. The bed was also no longer aligned left to right, being lower on the right. We pulled the bed out. It’s pretty rough. I put a flat board on it and walked it, reducin... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7vsCahbAhoWXsx2_OiArQXbkOEpb1vtT5LCGLWADQ-o/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/d/1/d149e480c4a2b2da407a2256ebe6b5dcf0122dc5_1_375x500.jpg [6/30/2018 8:27 AM] scott_blevins {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/462610085546295297/image.jpg?ex=67b927f7&is=67b7d677&hm=1d8b9f66655bb7553a96c3666ad76a7e9855b67bd4d9eef508e12c6d740d5696& [6/30/2018 8:27 AM] scott_blevins {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/462610126575108106/image.jpg?ex=67b92801&is=67b7d681&hm=6696f498db3edfb03a4fdc90661db245f2fe68f369275508c87e4e1de1faf90f& [6/30/2018 8:27 AM] scott_blevins {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/462610145558528010/image.jpg?ex=67b92805&is=67b7d685&hm=d8fe85aec1c87addde6ea26fdf717347099e716dc7eb81fd29e95dbd9dd93b10& [6/30/2018 8:38 AM] scott_blevins Greetings Team Laser! Saturday morning: I’ve just brined and seasoned a 10 lb. whole pork shoulder overnight in classic Cuban seasonings 8:30am: Into the smoker it goes. An 18 hour bbq marathon has just begun. Why, you may ask? Because Team Laser deserves the very best for those who come to Laser Committee Meeting and Laser Maintenance Day tomorrow! Lovingly crafted homemade Cuban sandwiches for everyone who shows up to 11:00am Laser Committee Meeting and stays to help maintain the lasers afterward. Later I’m off to Carrollton to pick up my Cuban bread order from a renowned Cuban bakery... {Reactions} 🕺 dms [6/30/2018 8:49 AM] jestersforge7494 😮 {Reactions} 😀 [6/30/2018 11:38 AM] talkers You are a good man Mr @Scott_Blevins {Reactions} 👌 🍴 [6/30/2018 1:54 PM] stephenie. At what point does another committee attempt to poach you, @Scott_Blevins ? {Reactions} 😆 [7/1/2018 9:45 PM] canibalcrab I pad updated. I owe $3 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/463173460236173313/JPEG_20180701_214546.jpg?ex=67b93a66&is=67b7e8e6&hm=f6d8b2e2bb86eff9ec370c9dc1373f7f1cf5e08fb0195bb4b3ac86d02b45017a& [7/2/2018 2:28 PM] stephenie. ^^^ Fixed. Now accepting payment. {Reactions} 👍 [7/2/2018 2:42 PM] canibalcrab Awesome [7/3/2018 11:19 AM] gbeauw At the Maintenance Day Sunday, I did some minor adjustments to the Zing bed to try to stop binding. Basically the procedure is to remove the Grate-Box, then loosen 3 of the 4 bed attachment screws in the corner (leave upper right tight) and then run the bed up and down. Should not bind. Then run bed to bottom limit and tighten screws. {Reactions} 👍 [7/3/2018 11:19 AM] gbeauw Let me know if we have more binding issues and I'll get back with Epilog TS to see what's next. [7/3/2018 11:25 AM] stephenie. Updated wiki with your instructions. [7/3/2018 11:31 AM] stephenie. Team, is there any reason why we should not upgrade our RDWorks version to the latest? I know there have been issues in the past with virus alerts on RDW's downloads. Are we sticking to an older (virus free) download, for instance? [7/3/2018 11:31 AM] stephenie. From @Indytruks138 on Talk today: "Have any of the machine been upgraded to V8.0.19? That is also what I downloaded from Thunder and my files would not open on the big Thunder yesterday." [7/3/2018 4:59 PM] pinewoodnut I've got some time tonight, so I'll come up and run some tests. The other versions aren't actually infected. It's just that the software isn't signed and AV programs flag it. I'll try it out tonight and if there are no issues I'll get it upgraded on all of them {Reactions} 👍 [7/3/2018 5:02 PM] pinewoodnut The funny part is that rdworks is actually up to V8.0.30, but thunder hasn't put anything newer on their site. I know that some of the controllers aren't supported with the new versions, but I'm not sure about the 2 controller versions we have in Big Thunder and Donner/Blitzen. {Reactions} 👍 [7/3/2018 5:09 PM] stephenie. Thanks @pinewoodnut . Much appreciated. [7/4/2018 4:37 PM] pinewoodnut @stephenie I did the upgrade yesterday, but big thunder had an issue. I had to disable the rdworks login script by renaming the script folder. When it runs, it breaks the .19 version and rdworks won't run. Hopefully @MotoPilot can sort out the script for big thunder. [7/4/2018 7:43 PM] stephenie. Terrific. You made many users happy today. Good job and thanks! Hope you and Kirsten are enjoying the Fourth. [7/4/2018 8:36 PM] talkers Where is the laser lock box for the cabinet keys? [7/5/2018 4:39 PM] stephenie. on the wall beneath Dr. Evil. [7/5/2018 4:40 PM] talkers I found a way to fix the laser anyway {Reactions} dms (4) [7/7/2018 9:43 AM] hasteur1068 Wanting a pre-clear on some acrylic/plastic before I put down some money in on materials for a project: https://www.johnsonplastics.com/engraving/engravable-sheet-stock/plastic/ipi-blacklites-black-radical-green-1-16-engraving-plastic SDS: https://www.johnsonplastics.com/downloads/dl/file/id/709/product/1093/ipi_attention_grabber.pdf Wanting to be extra careful {Embed} https://www.johnsonplastics.com/engraving/engravable-sheet-stock/plastic/ipi-blacklites-black-radical-green-1-16-engraving-plastic IPI Blacklites Black/Radical Green 1/16" Engraving Plastic - Engra... Exciting, eye-catching materials for engraving, silk-screening, hot stamping or vinyl lettering. Perfect for warning, directional, product merchandising or specialty signage. [7/7/2018 11:00 AM] canibalcrab I use the pink and black version. The tunder lasers are too strong to raster it. The zing works perfectly on it though {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/465185464484364299/JPEG_20180706_232947.jpg?ex=67b94bf9&is=67b7fa79&hm=5f986dbcb2539783919cc853df71d1521d47c547651237b90f976b4d45831654& [7/7/2018 11:21 AM] hasteur1068 @pearce Planning on using thunder to cut it down to zing size, then doing a bunch of cutouts for anti-Blue keychains after getting the idea from @john a gorman [7/7/2018 11:22 AM] hasteur1068 Initial design from class last night {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/465190938571177994/1f8576b3-be69-44af-a695-99dc06e0c28d.png?ex=67b95112&is=67b7ff92&hm=d84d4d412fdfa91278c527f8bed88c617935feae2e70312c74f77a237b900bee& [7/7/2018 11:33 AM] canibalcrab Just make sure you set the dpi to 400 or less on the zing or it gets a weird tacky edge [7/7/2018 7:54 PM] .guyzilla Is there anyone in the building who can help with CerMark? [7/8/2018 12:35 AM] talkers @pearce I've been using 500 for most everything on raster. I wonder what it is about that plastic. [7/8/2018 12:36 AM] talkers @Guyzilla sorry. Looks like both @pinewoodnut and I missed this request. I'll be there tomorrow from 1:30-10pm [7/8/2018 12:38 AM] canibalcrab dunno, thats also what the epilog says for dpi setting [7/8/2018 12:38 AM] talkers 400 would be faster [7/8/2018 12:42 AM] canibalcrab i never got an explanation but it made the sticky edges go away [7/8/2018 12:42 AM] talkers Edges? On the raster? [7/8/2018 12:43 AM] canibalcrab edges [7/8/2018 1:53 PM] hasteur1068 @pearce The Example I put up was 500dpi on the Epilog from @john a gorman class friday evening [7/8/2018 1:55 PM] hasteur1068 Going to bring some scrap cardboard up to play with a design on the Epilog before I move on to the plastic. [7/8/2018 2:43 PM] canibalcrab @Hasteur if the plastic you posted is the same as my pink and black (and I think it is) it has a different property than mirrored acrylic. It's abs over acrylic [7/13/2018 8:32 PM] scott_blevins Does anyone have the recommended Thunder settings for Cermark-coated metals? [7/14/2018 6:10 AM] hon1nbo I found it varies a little, but the other day when doing aluminum lettering for my powder coat samples it worked well with 25% @ 50 {Reactions} dms [7/14/2018 2:03 PM] scott_blevins Illustrator Tips for laser cutting, thanks to Jen Schachter and TESTED.com. I’ve met Jen before and she’s equal parts extremely talented and very enthusiastic about Laser cutting. Recommended: https://youtu.be/tjgkCf4G9R0 [7/14/2018 2:36 PM] mizgeek Omg! That is so cool! I’ve taken the laser class, now I just need to find time to do some projects. {Reactions} dms [7/16/2018 3:18 PM] scott_blevins Big Thunder is down. Suspect it needs lens and mirror cleaning. At a minimum, laser needs to be taken offline until one of us can service it. Anyone at the space: please put a note on Big Thunder saying it is unavailable. [7/16/2018 3:18 PM] scott_blevins Thank you [7/16/2018 3:32 PM] canibalcrab I might head up tonight after DND [7/16/2018 3:33 PM] canibalcrab Will look if someone else doesn't beat me to it [7/16/2018 5:37 PM] loganc10. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/468546626806611970/image.jpg?ex=67b9000d&is=67b7ae8d&hm=539207e0919c01ac4338c59195beba8195dd7bcee482d77c17e60a9f9e8df260& [7/16/2018 6:00 PM] canibalcrab Woah [7/16/2018 6:00 PM] canibalcrab That *MIGHT* be ok [7/16/2018 6:00 PM] canibalcrab It's just the red Dot and the last lense makes it focus again [7/16/2018 6:01 PM] canibalcrab But that's not normal [7/16/2018 7:06 PM] loganc10. I didn’t think the red dot was associated with the actual cut beam. But I’d figure if the optics were what throwing the beam off, then the same could be happening with the cut beam. [7/16/2018 7:09 PM] canibalcrab The red dot isn't "connected" but it doesn't normally look like that. Something might be up with the mirrors [7/16/2018 7:09 PM] loganc10. Just did a test, nothing is firing either.. [7/16/2018 7:10 PM] loganc10. More specifically, it’s trying to fire/run, just isn’t cutting. [7/16/2018 7:10 PM] canibalcrab Thermal paper test to see if it's out of alignment? [7/16/2018 7:19 PM] canibalcrab i couldnt find the kays last time i was there, couldnt clean the mirrors inside the case [7/17/2018 8:15 AM] scott_blevins Keys should be in the two lockboxes recently moved underneath the Vinyl Dr. Evil. [7/17/2018 8:15 AM] scott_blevins (Actually closer to the Metalshop doors) [7/17/2018 9:44 AM] canibalcrab I did not make it out last night btw [7/18/2018 3:08 AM] talkers @Scott_Blevins how do we access the new lock box? It doesn't have the same code system [7/18/2018 3:28 PM] canibalcrab Dirty bits {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469239082401398804/JPEG_20180718_152827.jpg?ex=67b8e1f3&is=67b79073&hm=e2fb58e175174b58f384a585bfa06239e8daa9c74325da596f51f9e5872f9701& [7/18/2018 3:29 PM] canibalcrab Looks like there might be a leak in the water hose [7/18/2018 3:29 PM] canibalcrab Some corrosion [7/18/2018 3:29 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469239406113587201/JPEG_20180718_152938.jpg?ex=67b8e240&is=67b790c0&hm=51d1a2b5ce9bc14df68485f0e6b2d400c0227c796fb943cfdb46b7a13cf352b4& [7/18/2018 3:30 PM] canibalcrab Little white bits around the aperture [7/18/2018 3:30 PM] canibalcrab Looks like evaporation pools down at the bottom {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469239650578333696/JPEG_20180718_153026.jpg?ex=67b8e27a&is=67b790fa&hm=8d49c25db12811e80d45eb97fcf40152e2b486b9a6118d32bcddb3a38f8b63e4& [7/18/2018 3:31 PM] canibalcrab Signs of leaking down the back too and floor {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469239847089995797/JPEG_20180718_153121.jpg?ex=67b8e2a9&is=67b79129&hm=cfac35cc0b0b3532cafd460b57ebc9cdbc0484042280ccccf866ecca178dac42& [7/18/2018 3:40 PM] canibalcrab Red dot splitter looks cooked. Not sure what it's actually called {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469242063402041356/JPEG_20180718_154005.jpg?ex=67b8e4ba&is=67b7933a&hm=54d9370e306560643d9f7eff7b39ba50ee1dc204faccf936632a4aac9ecc38b8& [7/18/2018 3:41 PM] canibalcrab Can confirm it's slowly leaking from the tube [7/18/2018 3:42 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469242513853775903/JPEG_20180718_154207.jpg?ex=67b8e525&is=67b793a5&hm=949a39dc078acb7ff2e0b6de970f777e05f049afc3d84139cc4d8d49bfd221e3& [7/18/2018 3:49 PM] canibalcrab Tube was at Max depth. This will prevent cutting if it's really dirty. 3rd mirror was also loose in it's holder {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469244468969603074/JPEG_20180718_154905.jpg?ex=67b8e6f7&is=67b79577&hm=66001e0bfacbdbc38aab03fb7f78e168b5e614b722504177ddff6ca2a3bb3804& [7/18/2018 3:50 PM] canibalcrab Can see the gap on it {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469244544999751720/JPEG_20180718_155007.jpg?ex=67b8e709&is=67b79589&hm=7569092e78071d7d807d6802fe54d7de819a1c43f5925ffb9b27a63d8ecce991& [7/18/2018 3:57 PM] canibalcrab Thunder is operational again {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/469246416783540254/JPEG_20180718_155722.jpg?ex=67b8e8c7&is=67b79747&hm=67c73e7f082bc0c82b0d414f37f2fb70b120251449a8f083f5db607b96be7c09& [7/18/2018 5:51 PM] canibalcrab And aligned. Good Lord someone went ham on the screws it was so far out of alignment [7/19/2018 6:53 AM] draco_the_drake Thanks @pearce [7/20/2018 6:27 PM] talkers Thank you @pearce ! [7/20/2018 6:49 PM] talkers Mark Salas taught a great 102 laser class. He's good to go. [7/21/2018 11:51 PM] talkers Zing fixed. Andrew and Allison leveled the bed [7/21/2018 11:52 PM] talkers Andrew and I tightened the belts on blitzen. Sloppy loose on left and esp x [7/23/2018 11:09 PM] canibalcrab The bed is really dented on thunder [7/23/2018 11:10 PM] talkers Any suggestion on where to get a replacement? [7/23/2018 11:10 PM] talkers We talked about it at the last meeting [7/23/2018 11:52 PM] canibalcrab Does thunder sell them? [7/24/2018 5:49 PM] stephenie. Thunder's USA distributor does not sell vector grids. [7/24/2018 5:51 PM] stephenie. Hi! Back from vacation. @pearce, great job getting Big Thunder operational. [7/24/2018 5:54 PM] stephenie. @john a gorman , would you contact Yumiko to see if Thunder will ship a vector grid from China. And for how much? We've got a meeting on Aug 5th. Can vote then to purchase if exceeds purchasing limit. [7/24/2018 5:54 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/maintenance-day-committee-mtg-food-sun-aug-5-2018-11a-2p/39835 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/maintenance-day-committee-mtg-food-sun-aug-5-2018-11a-2p/39835 Maintenance Day + Committee Mtg + FOOD, Sun Aug 5 2018, 11a-2p [August_BulletinBoard] https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/RMLoNIDhlNsL7lYApbepFfSNqWyGVAbHIbyn8dsCCFo/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/d/c/dc6b87ad795e943599cfe23bfb1a53ccbe17ead1_1_636x499.jpg [7/24/2018 7:53 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/471479953687445516/JPEG_20180724_195238.jpg?ex=67b91fec&is=67b7ce6c&hm=c669defa42b622e38086e0dab5a8c14d4c396cdca0f807bbf6a39e9f11ede0ee& [7/24/2018 7:54 PM] canibalcrab Blitzen [7/24/2018 7:57 PM] canibalcrab Doesn't appear to be pulling smoke very well. Even after cleaning [7/24/2018 8:00 PM] scott_blevins Vent’s still pretty coated. Possible fan motor issue as well? [7/24/2018 8:02 PM] canibalcrab Not sure. It was a pretty agressive raster that I noticed it on [7/24/2018 8:02 PM] canibalcrab Cleaned it out pretty well and talked the user into a lighter raster [7/24/2018 8:03 PM] canibalcrab Back door panel next to vent was also just hanging open [7/24/2018 8:04 PM] scott_blevins MDF? [7/24/2018 8:07 PM] scott_blevins Thank You for helping and checking / cleaning Blitzen. [7/24/2018 8:08 PM] canibalcrab Raster was on birch {Reactions} dms [7/28/2018 10:41 AM] stephenie. Good Morning, Team. Even with the back vent vacuumed clear, Big Thunder is not evacuating. Todd Burnside is running a vector cut job (making boxes - no rastering) and when he lifts the lid, the chamber air is very smoky. The Zing is running also. Blitzen was not running. [7/28/2018 10:42 AM] stephenie. Is there any action we can take prior to Maintenance on August 5? [7/28/2018 11:01 AM] talkers Assuming blitzen is fine, Check the ductwork to the blower. @stephenie [7/28/2018 11:02 AM] talkers @stephenie just saw the post about the bed. I'll contact Yumiko [7/28/2018 11:11 AM] stephenie. I checked the ductwork. Intact. Securely connected. [7/28/2018 11:11 AM] talkers Open it up. Might be blocked by debris [7/28/2018 11:15 AM] stephenie. Will do after Zing work done. I'm sticking around ... Fired Arts running a test of different metal oxides, lasering them into pre-glazed tiles. [7/28/2018 12:22 PM] stephenie. We think one blower is fixed. Testing. [7/28/2018 12:51 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/blitzen-zing-big-thunder-down-for-maintenance/40018 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/blitzen-zing-big-thunder-down-for-maintenance/40018 Blitzen, Zing, Big Thunder DOWN for MAINTENANCE Donner is operational. @jphelps, Shelly, Chuck, Alex got Donner’s blower working again. Clogged intake. Will do same for single blower running other 3 lasers once last job (on Zing) is finished. Until then, 3 lasers down: Blitzen, Zing, Big Thunder. Thank you for your... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [7/28/2018 3:07 PM] stephenie. Laser has re-opened. 2nd blower fixed. All is well. This time @NickWebb and Dan Dornback did the dirty work. Much gratitude. [7/31/2018 12:19 AM] canibalcrab Blitzens bed is very unlevel. Makes a racket when raising the z to the top [7/31/2018 12:20 AM] canibalcrab Could just be the mesh [7/31/2018 12:20 AM] canibalcrab Bent [7/31/2018 3:21 PM] canibalcrab im having issues with etching glass and having the glass get flakey on one side of the raster [7/31/2018 3:23 PM] stephenie. Ugh, we re-leveled it last week. Not perfect but good. [7/31/2018 3:24 PM] stephenie. I'm coming up in a bit. Will take a look. [7/31/2018 3:28 PM] canibalcrab ill be up too, blitzens grid droppec back into place when i took it out and rebent some small dents in the lower left corner, but when i raised it up it felt like the whole grid was bent on a diagonal. top left and bottom right were low, high in the other two [7/31/2018 3:33 PM] stephenie. roger that [7/31/2018 5:56 PM] stephenie. When I got here, the front edge of the bed support was 1/2 inch lower than the back. The back edge of the bed was in contact with the supports, but the vector grid was higher than the auto-focus. [7/31/2018 5:57 PM] stephenie. The front edge was lifted off its supports. [7/31/2018 5:58 PM] stephenie. When I lower the bed about 6.5 inches, the vector grid levels out. Little to no gap between it and supports. [7/31/2018 6:05 PM] stephenie. I raised it again Got the diagonal wobble that @pearce noted. [7/31/2018 6:08 PM] stephenie. The upper left of the vector grid has a trench carved in it. At some point the lens tube re-homed while the back edge was proud. [7/31/2018 6:08 PM] stephenie. Am concerned that the tube is now no longer plumb. [7/31/2018 6:26 PM] stephenie. @pearce is here now. [7/31/2018 6:28 PM] stephenie. He just wants to make, instead has to fix. [7/31/2018 6:58 PM] stephenie. Lower left belt off its drive gear. [7/31/2018 6:58 PM] stephenie. Bed re-leveled. Bent honeycomb preventing full contact, but acceptable. [7/31/2018 7:00 PM] stephenie. Pearce found aluminum shavings in tip of nozzle from where it dragged across vector grid. [7/31/2018 7:17 PM] stephenie. he cleared them out. [7/31/2018 7:45 PM] stephenie. @pearce rescued Blitzen!!!! {Reactions} 👍 (3) 🖤 [8/1/2018 2:14 PM] limeytx Hey @stephenie when is the next Lassr office hour thingy? [8/1/2018 2:21 PM] stephenie. @Limey (MReynolds) I have most of my evenings free. Do you have a preferred day? [8/1/2018 2:39 PM] gothannie Thanks to @tomthm for teaching an informative class today! [8/1/2018 2:44 PM] limeytx I'll just catch you next time I see you Steph [8/1/2018 2:51 PM] stephenie. Will be at the Twisted Root fundraiser. [8/1/2018 3:08 PM] talkers @Limey (MReynolds) what do you need help with? You are an experienced user. [8/1/2018 3:16 PM] limeytx I am, but needing help with rotary and the cermark [8/1/2018 3:16 PM] limeytx Got a tumbler to decorate [8/1/2018 3:17 PM] talkers We are doing tumblers Thursday & Friday evening {Reactions} dms (3) [8/1/2018 3:18 PM] limeytx Oh perfect [8/1/2018 5:53 PM] stephenie. Sunday's agenda is shaping up like this: [8/1/2018 5:54 PM] stephenie. Agenda: 1. Quick stuff: 10x10 Show + Open House; member not paying, walking away from lasers for hours at a time, and leaving materials behind in lasers. 2. $400 controller board for Thunder 3. No-Go Materials Review of ABS. [https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/discuss-laser-no-go-material-3-abs/32453/18](https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/discuss-laser-no-go-material-3-abs/32453/18) [8/1/2018 5:54 PM] stephenie. Let me know of other adds. [8/2/2018 11:00 AM] scott_blevins 4. Light Burn progress 5. Upcoming Optics courses (timeframe) 6. Any more discussion needed regarding publicly communicating & deploying ‘Holiday Laser commercial user usage protocols’? 7. 60 Days out from needing new Committee leadership 8. Change in maintenance protocol to incorporate a recurring check and cleaning of the blower fans [8/2/2018 11:52 AM] canibalcrab Need to add buying extra beds from thunder. Theyve been abused. [8/2/2018 7:05 PM] stephenie. Expansion Team gave us our footprint and location. We must provide a layout of utilities by Thursday. That's holding up the request for proposal. Will need to meet with @MotoPilot , @pinewoodnut , @JoshW, @Scott_Blevins , at a minimum ASAP. @pearce, if you are willing. [8/3/2018 8:58 AM] scott_blevins I’m flexible. Will defer to the others on timing [8/3/2018 9:56 AM] andrew5152 @pearce is there any merit to the idea of flycutting the existing beds, to true them back up and use them some more? Not unlike the process for the spoilboard on the MulitCAM. [8/3/2018 1:08 PM] canibalcrab It's thin aluminum flaps, I'm sure they would just deflect before cutting them [8/3/2018 1:09 PM] canibalcrab You can also tap them back into shape when placed on a flat surface, but that only does so much. The replacements from thunder are cheap in comparison to the work we would have to do to make one [8/3/2018 1:10 PM] canibalcrab We would probably end up with more cost in supplies because of ordering in bulk [8/3/2018 1:10 PM] canibalcrab Not sure why your tags aren't working for me btw [8/4/2018 8:37 AM] andrew5152 @pearce probably I did it wrong (typing @pearce does nothing; one must select your user from the list or know your actual handle). So. User error. Also, 10-4 on the infeasibility. Just thought it might be worth a ask... [8/4/2018 9:04 PM] stephenie. Meeting & maintenance tomorrow. Kris & Scott are supplying chicken salad and bread. I'm making cupcakes. Attendance will be lower due to team members being out of town. So am pressing my teen into service. [8/4/2018 9:22 PM] scott_blevins Unofficial word on the street is that the Swedish Chef is planning a little something as well. [8/5/2018 5:45 AM] stephenie. come to the meeting to see our Expansion location and get an update. [8/6/2018 4:09 AM] canibalcrab @stephenie im looking to get into contact with the guy who makes wooden journal covers on the lasers or the guy who makes tons of earrings on the lasers, i believe earring guy is jeff. do you happen to know his/thier talk handles or emails? [8/6/2018 11:53 AM] stephenie. I haven't me the person who makes the earrings. The person who makes the wooden journal covers is named Daniel Cisneros. His Talk ID is Dancis, but according to his stats, he's never on. You can find him most mornings at Laser. [8/6/2018 11:57 AM] talkers Jeff makes the earrings. Maybe covers too [8/6/2018 11:59 AM] talkers https://www.etsy.com/shop/CatesConcepts {Embed} https://www.etsy.com/shop/CatesConcepts by CatesConcepts You searched for: CatesConcepts! Discover the unique items that CatesConcepts creates. At Etsy, we pride ourselves on our global community of sellers. Each Etsy seller helps contribute to a global marketplace of creative goods. By supporting CatesConcepts, you’re supporting... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/e71kcP-gmGU0YIsM6RfyzXqm3QHebwWklhBp_4Pvpjs/%3Fversion%3D0/https/i.etsystatic.com/isla/80df73/31974863/isla_fullxfull.31974863_tgs4ucyu.jpg [8/6/2018 11:59 AM] talkers Jeff & Julie's etsy shop. Should have contact info [8/6/2018 12:15 PM] scott_blevins Yes, Jeff is the man who sells at local markets and fairs. I believe he’s currently ramping up for LeakyCon. [8/6/2018 1:20 PM] bonestorm. I made my first ever laser project today and had the pleasure of meeting Jeff and Daniel! {Reactions} dms (3) [8/6/2018 4:19 PM] talkers @Bonestorm congrats! And nice way to tie the above conversions together [8/8/2018 9:58 PM] joshw0263 Blitzen in need of advanced maintenance still operational use with caution sign left on machine reported on talk [8/8/2018 10:00 PM] joshw0263 We understand mistakes happen not reporting them is a bigger issue damage was caused by another user please remember reporting an accident is part of being a good member of makerspace {Reactions} dms (3) [8/9/2018 4:12 PM] stephenie. Tonight I will be at the Space to review prelim layout with any of the Team. [8/9/2018 4:12 PM] stephenie. 7:30. [8/9/2018 4:14 PM] stephenie. Not sure which room. It is Tour Night, so might decamp to restaurant with wifi. Will post here. [8/9/2018 4:46 PM] scott_blevins Lots of classes scheduled for tonight as well. Offsite might be the better option. [8/9/2018 5:46 PM] stephenie. Let's see how many show. All classrooms taken. Common Room has been busy. Conference room not in use. Can't book though through calendar; too late. [8/9/2018 7:02 PM] pinewoodnut I'll be up there around 730. [8/9/2018 7:52 PM] pinewoodnut In the conference room [8/9/2018 8:38 PM] joshw0263 I lol be up tomorrow for membership meeting can help with blitzen after [8/9/2018 9:41 PM] stephenie. @pinewoodnut will fill you in. He's got some time tomorrow during the day to chase down a few parts. [8/10/2018 2:33 PM] pinewoodnut I will have to order the valve, but I think I have a workaround. As for the belts,I started working on it but ran out of time. I'll see if I can come back by tonight and sort them out. After that it's just the lens, but that's easy. {Reactions} dms (2) [8/10/2018 2:35 PM] talkers The head is loose on the gantry. The lower two bearings can be adjusted to tighten (and probably remove) the head. [8/10/2018 3:29 PM] pinewoodnut I looked up the process for that too. I'll see if I can tighten it up. {Reactions} dms [8/10/2018 6:50 PM] pinewoodnut I have tightened the Y axis belts, firmed up the eccentric nuts for the X axis roller bearings, bypassed the broken air valve, and replaced the smoked/cracked lens. Testing went fine, so I asked Celia to run another test. She ran a 15 minute cut test job and it came out fine. I told her not to worry about paying for that job. Blitzen is back in service. Can someone mark it closed on talk? {Reactions} dms [8/11/2018 1:49 PM] talkers Celia later noted a problem on Blitzen. It repeated the error twice, where it had a little hiccup, moving a mm to the left. She cut about 12 Texas shapes, about 2" tall. Both skips in the same place of the image. [8/11/2018 3:39 PM] stephenie. Crud. [8/11/2018 5:08 PM] talkers Hard to say if it's the laser or the software [8/11/2018 5:44 PM] shunsui89 Did she run the cut 12 separate times or all on one sheet of material? [8/11/2018 5:45 PM] talkers 12 objects, one run [8/11/2018 6:33 PM] shunsui89 What mechanical issue would be that consistent on the laser? [8/11/2018 6:51 PM] canibalcrab blitzen still has belt issues we need to figure out [8/11/2018 6:51 PM] canibalcrab the skips are most likely from a movement on the vector [8/12/2018 9:26 PM] stephenie. @loganc10 was using Blitzen today with excellent results. [8/12/2018 9:26 PM] stephenie. The acrylic wisps were interrupting the pointer beam on Donner. A cleaning fixed that. [8/12/2018 9:28 PM] stephenie. Big Thunder's Chiller level was down to halfway, still in the green "good" area. We refilled it last Sunday, but not sure to what level. So topped it off today and will monitor. [8/18/2018 10:01 PM] pinewoodnut I looked at the issue with blitzen and think the y axis gear in the back on the right side is slipping. I'm out of town, but I'll try to get a ticket opened with thunder to see what we can do [8/19/2018 11:08 AM] stephenie. @MotoPilot ^^^ [8/19/2018 11:09 AM] canibalcrab Could it just be missing a set screw? I might have some metric ones in my printer tool box. [8/19/2018 11:10 AM] canibalcrab Hopefully it didn't fall out. It would have likely been sucked up during cleaning [8/19/2018 11:33 AM] pinewoodnut I'm not sure how the gear is fixed to that shaft. If someone wants to take a look at it, feel free. Otherwise I'll try to take a look when I'm back in town. [8/19/2018 11:40 AM] canibalcrab There's a small screw set below the surface of the teeth on the gear if I remember correctly [8/19/2018 11:40 AM] canibalcrab I hear the DMS has no power at the moment [8/19/2018 11:40 AM] canibalcrab I might go in later tonight [8/19/2018 11:41 AM] scott_blevins It was back up as of the last 30 minutes. [8/19/2018 11:49 AM] canibalcrab Gotta get that FB team better at making any kinds of posts at all.... [8/19/2018 2:32 PM] motopilot_ The hard part is getting to that set screw, right? I just hope it isn’t sheared off with one part in the drive axle. [8/19/2018 2:36 PM] canibalcrab Yeah you have to either move the gantry so the gear is in a position to get a driver into it [8/19/2018 2:36 PM] canibalcrab Or take the belts off via tension point (not recommend) [8/19/2018 10:09 PM] stephenie. Some folks tried Blitzen today and said it was "fixed". I am skeptical. [8/19/2018 10:10 PM] stephenie. "Look, the power outage fixed it!" was the refrain. [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] stephenie. @pearce Bill Scott says he had problems vector etching font into his 10x10. The lines wobbled at high speed. He said you told him to slow it down and that worked. [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] canibalcrab yep [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] stephenie. Donner? [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] canibalcrab that is like a bandaid solution for backlash [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] stephenie. What was "high" speed? [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] canibalcrab 100 [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] canibalcrab not really [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] stephenie. that's not high [8/19/2018 10:17 PM] canibalcrab 50 fixed it [8/19/2018 11:25 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/maintenance-day-committee-mtg-food-first-sun-sep-2-2018-11a-2p/41198 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/maintenance-day-committee-mtg-food-first-sun-sep-2-2018-11a-2p/41198 Maintenance Day + Committee Mtg + FOOD, First Sun Sep 2, 2018, 11a-2p [MaintenanceDayAnnouncement_] @Team_Laser, we are officially scheduled on the First Sunday of the month. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ExWOc_Zm2QQdzu4dQFwPjpOZnEOO_qLcVeQmDoSU_sk/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/f/b/fb0aeeb304aaab887cc6c586172366b647f8f56d_1_625x500.jpg [8/19/2018 11:37 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/480958603499667466/LaserSignIn.jpg?ex=67b9549a&is=67b8031a&hm=e0d3e2aef571456417d66fa5b4d6b7641150edd515de1e91581f3258319e6a68& [8/19/2018 11:40 PM] stephenie. DMS Rules: "The Chair may hold an emergency Committee meeting with 5 days notice on the forums of DMS, and on signs conspicuously posted in the committee area, provided a good faith effort to notify all current committee members is performed, and that the time of the meeting is not unreasonably restrictive on the members." [8/19/2018 11:44 PM] stephenie. We've got a real problem with members staying on a laser for 9-12 hours at a stretch. Some of those folks are here nearly everyday. It's being noticed. And complained about. I'm getting private messages and it's being talked about publicly on Talk. At least one of those members was underpaying significantly and would not let another member play through (I suspended his access.) [8/19/2018 11:52 PM] stephenie. I would like to hold a meeting outside of the regular Committee Meeting to hash out new queue rules. I thought we'd done this for the holidays, but it did not make it into the minutes (which only say we discussed it). We need something good year-round. I expect much lively discussion and don't want to use up all of the committee meeting to do so. [8/19/2018 11:54 PM] stephenie. Am thinking Sunday Aug 26 at noon. Because we already meet mid-day on Sundays, I think the date meets the "not unreasonably restrictive" criteria in the DMS Rules. Give our churchgoers a little extra time to get to the Space, too. [8/19/2018 11:55 PM] stephenie. Thoughts? [8/19/2018 11:56 PM] bara5725 Sounds Reasonable {Reactions} 👍 [8/21/2018 10:52 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/bod-agenda-08-20-2018-committee-chairs-election-completed-by-sept-14-for-terms-ending-in-the-spring/41228/2 [8/21/2018 11:11 AM] stephenie. The motion passed says by Sept 30th. [8/21/2018 11:13 AM] stephenie. Will not be holding a meeting this Sunday to discuss queue management rules. [8/21/2018 11:14 AM] stephenie. We currently have a committee meeting for Sept 2 on Labor Day weekend. Published and everything. [8/21/2018 11:22 AM] stephenie. Shall we change the date? [8/21/2018 12:03 PM] stephenie. >>> Oh, wait. We do have to change the date. Elections need a minimum 2-week notice. <<< [8/21/2018 12:04 PM] stephenie. (EDITED to remove the 9th) Sept 16 or 23rd. Preferences? [8/21/2018 2:44 PM] joshw0263 9th [8/21/2018 2:48 PM] scott_blevins 2nd, but I know Labor Day Sunday may provide problematic for some. [8/21/2018 2:48 PM] scott_blevins Wait...16th is what I meant. [8/21/2018 2:49 PM] scott_blevins (Post-lunch serotonin levels crashing) [8/21/2018 2:53 PM] stephenie. I'm out of town the 9th. Just realized. -smh- [8/21/2018 2:53 PM] scott_blevins Same here [8/21/2018 2:54 PM] scott_blevins I’ll be in Austin. [8/21/2018 2:57 PM] stephenie. Let's try again. 16 or 23rd for election. [8/21/2018 2:59 PM] stephenie. We could keep the 2nd for a meeting + maintenance, just not hold a vote. Then hold a vote on either the 16th or 23rd. [8/21/2018 2:59 PM] stephenie. so.many.options. [8/21/2018 3:00 PM] stephenie. (this is why regular meetings are a good thing. no cat herding. quick, someone find a gif!) [8/21/2018 3:33 PM] scott_blevins {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/481561461156741121/image.png?ex=67b8e30f&is=67b7918f&hm=37d73af16466b9937e138097777cab5320307032356bafafb9e4b764e3e9837d& [8/21/2018 4:20 PM] stephenie. Moved discussion of election day to private Talk thread. Seem to get more response there. [8/23/2018 9:43 AM] untiedclownshoes Question, Where do people buy their acrylic sheets from? Is there a place in Dallas where I can physically go pick it up or do I have to have it shipped to me? Thanks! [8/23/2018 12:46 PM] andrew5152 http://estreetplastics.com/ is in Royse City. http://www.portplastics.com/ is in DFW (airport freeway). Long list of stuff that might do what you want on the wiki... https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Plastics_Suppliers {Embed} http://estreetplastics.com/ Plexiglass Acrylic and Other Plastics - Precut Sheets or Cut To Si... Shop for plexiglass sheets, acrylic, lexan polycarbonate, acrylic mirror, acrylic tubes, rods, styrene, and other plastics. Precut sheets or cut to size. {Embed} http://www.portplastics.com/ Plastics Distribution | Port Plastics Trust Port Plastics, a plastics distribution company, for exceptional service, a wide range of superior products, and top-notch technical support. {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Plastics_Suppliers Plastics Suppliers [8/23/2018 1:10 PM] untiedclownshoes awesome Thanks! [8/24/2018 9:05 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/election-laser-chair-vacancy-09-16-2018-11am/41562 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/election-laser-chair-vacancy-09-16-2018-11am/41562 [ELECTION] Laser Chair (vacancy), 09/16/2018, 11am [SpecialElection] Let this serve as our official notice of a Special Election. Our regular monthly meeting does not meet the rules for 2 weeks public notice. I will not be running for Laser Chair. It was an honor to serve the Laser community. Team Laser is a fabulous grou... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4T26Jla-7rKgGutc7UwsjigQIlcIsMhiHQHeCJ_-U-4/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/b/f/bf00487a636a334e78b86c85c12a86c7a3d3749b_1_690x388.jpg [8/25/2018 9:21 PM] tomthm9900 Thank you Stephanie for your hard work and great results as chair. I can hear you now saying, “I didn’t do this alone”, but the fact that you kept the focus on doing the right thing - not just for Lasers - but for all DMS members, was key to the successes so far. {Reactions} 👏 [8/26/2018 4:28 PM] limeytx Anyone from team laser currently at the space? [8/26/2018 4:30 PM] scott_blevins I believe John Gorman is teaching a class in CA currently. Need Cermark? [8/26/2018 4:38 PM] limeytx Yeah cermark and a helping hand [8/28/2018 10:21 PM] stephenie. Reminder: Sunday is Maintenance Day + Committee Meeting, 11a-2p. Since it's my last as Chair, will be making the hot ham-and-cheese croissant sandwiches. {Reactions} 👍 😋 [8/28/2018 10:26 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/donner-rotary-attachmnt-connector-loose-8-28-2018/41743 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/donner-rotary-attachmnt-connector-loose-8-28-2018/41743 Donner Rotary Attachmnt Connector Loose 8/28/2018 ISSUE or REQUEST: ISSUE (1) Affected Tool or Resource: Donner Thunder Laser (2) Committee, Group or Volunteer who usually handles this type of ISSUE or REQUEST: @Team_Laser (3) Details of ISSUE or REQUEST: The connector for the rotary attachment has come loose on the mal... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [8/28/2018 10:29 PM] talkers It's been loose for a while. Need to open the side to access the other side of connector and tighten. Something for Sunday [8/31/2018 12:20 AM] canibalcrab Thunders final tube is so hot to the touch that it burns fingers [8/31/2018 10:57 AM] stephenie. Chiller level? [8/31/2018 10:58 AM] stephenie. @pearce what gave you a clue to check the tube? [8/31/2018 10:59 AM] canibalcrab It fell down mid cut [8/31/2018 10:59 AM] canibalcrab But always check the tube when the cut lines have echos or shadows [8/31/2018 11:00 AM] stephenie. The tube fell down? [8/31/2018 11:00 AM] canibalcrab Because if it's off center and hitting the nozzle after the last lens it'll just heat everything [8/31/2018 11:00 AM] canibalcrab Sorry focus tube [8/31/2018 11:00 AM] stephenie. OOOOOhhhhhh [8/31/2018 11:01 AM] canibalcrab Was late and I was angry at the laser [8/31/2018 11:01 AM] stephenie. I am laughing so hard...and I feel bad about it because it's like laughing at your suffering. [8/31/2018 11:02 AM] stephenie. OK. re-reading your texts... [8/31/2018 11:02 AM] stephenie. So you are saying the laser beam needs re-alignment? [8/31/2018 11:03 AM] canibalcrab I tried to make sure everything was lined up, and it was, I didn't see a reason for it to be hitting anywhere else and causing heat [8/31/2018 11:03 AM] canibalcrab It was totally aligned [8/31/2018 11:03 AM] stephenie. I swear these lasers are inventing new problems. [8/31/2018 11:03 AM] canibalcrab Yes [8/31/2018 11:03 AM] canibalcrab More members more problems [8/31/2018 11:04 AM] canibalcrab It also sounds really odd when traversing the whole x stretch [8/31/2018 11:06 AM] stephenie. Did you put Big Thunder out-of-service? [8/31/2018 11:19 AM] canibalcrab No I actually got through my cut [8/31/2018 11:19 AM] canibalcrab I'm just unclear why it was getting so hot. I probably should have marked it down [8/31/2018 11:21 AM] canibalcrab There are other airflow nozzles with wider aperatures in the accessory box, but that's how we smoke lenses. That's the only fix I can think of [8/31/2018 11:29 AM] andrew5152 Donner crash mentioned on TALK (not yet been turned into Issue Post...) {Reactions} 👍 [8/31/2018 11:43 AM] stephenie. Just saw that. it was a bit vague. Replied with an instruction. [8/31/2018 11:43 AM] stephenie. Did ask member to verify that focus tube was raised - since coming loose is an issue - before restarting machine. [8/31/2018 10:48 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-down-blitzen-is-out-of-service/41902 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-down-blitzen-is-out-of-service/41902 [LASER DOWN] Blitzen is out of service One member of Team Laser is tackling the issue of Blitzen’s gear/axle problem. ETA unknown. We will let you know when it is back in service. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [9/2/2018 12:32 AM] talkers Meeting at 11am. Maintenance party at 12pm today [9/2/2018 1:33 AM] shunsui89 Depending on family plans I might miss it sorry :/ [9/2/2018 2:18 AM] shunsui89 I'll miss the meeting either way because I'd like to assist on the forge repair I'll be there for maintenance though, not that my presence is a big deal haha [9/2/2018 3:11 PM] talkers @Nate thanks for making it Nate. Thanks everyone. Another great turnout! [9/2/2018 5:23 PM] pseudonym01 I keep running in to a "Hard Limit Prot Please press escape" can someone advise add to what I am doing incorrectly? [9/2/2018 5:36 PM] pseudonym01 Found the issue, was too close to the edge [9/2/2018 5:36 PM] shunsui89 A little more context? [9/2/2018 5:36 PM] pseudonym01 Have since corrected [9/2/2018 5:36 PM] shunsui89 O ok [9/2/2018 5:36 PM] pseudonym01 Thanks [9/2/2018 5:37 PM] shunsui89 I wouldn't have been able to help probably but know who to tag at least haha [9/2/2018 5:37 PM] pseudonym01 Gotcha, thanks either way [9/2/2018 5:37 PM] pseudonym01 Definitely learned something today [9/2/2018 5:42 PM] talkers I think that's either a sizing issue or the wrong origin setting (like expecting origin to be upper left but it's really lower left) [9/2/2018 6:03 PM] pseudonym01 Hmm alright, new problem, laser head will not move on x axis [9/2/2018 6:03 PM] pseudonym01 Hit frame, it drew the frame and is now pegged all the way to the right [9/2/2018 6:05 PM] pseudonym01 Can move on y axis [9/2/2018 6:06 PM] talkers Reset the laser [9/2/2018 6:06 PM] talkers You hit an end stop [9/2/2018 6:07 PM] pseudonym01 Alright, reset button? [9/2/2018 6:07 PM] talkers Sure [9/2/2018 6:08 PM] pseudonym01 Okay, anything else? [9/2/2018 6:08 PM] talkers Review your file and the origin setting [9/2/2018 6:08 PM] talkers Something is making it run out of bounds [9/2/2018 6:10 PM] pseudonym01 File is unloaded, not sure how to set origin other than moving it with arrow keys which aren't working at the moment [9/2/2018 6:11 PM] pseudonym01 Well up and down are, but left right don't move the head [9/2/2018 6:11 PM] pseudonym01 Is there another way to adjust it? [9/2/2018 6:15 PM] talkers In the file in RDWorks, where is the little green square? [9/2/2018 6:15 PM] talkers That's the origin position you are setting [9/2/2018 6:15 PM] talkers Typically, upper left [9/2/2018 6:18 PM] pseudonym01 Upper left [9/2/2018 6:18 PM] pseudonym01 Loaded that file, still unable to move left or right [9/2/2018 6:19 PM] pseudonym01 It looks like it thinks the upper right of the bed is 0,0 [9/2/2018 6:20 PM] talkers Check in the lower right in RDWorks. Look for "current" position. Not absolute or what ever the other 2 options are [9/2/2018 6:22 PM] pseudonym01 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/485952616082178048/JPEG_20180902_182150.jpg?ex=67b90aa4&is=67b7b924&hm=c44fc6fe5de26578f4dcfaffd0df566afef33a119f3c0a4aac15f1126fa65998& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/485952616585756673/JPEG_20180902_182111.jpg?ex=67b90aa4&is=67b7b924&hm=ed870d9da66355548f5f9fa11a8bc849b6fe5cfb8b3c7ab126907673a7a242cf& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/485952617059581981/JPEG_20180902_182141.jpg?ex=67b90aa4&is=67b7b924&hm=a51c19063d1283335daa161a43b61189f13fc30b26f7e0bbd672902f849e2cb2& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/485952617667624967/JPEG_20180902_182125.jpg?ex=67b90aa4&is=67b7b924&hm=a6c93b4407eaa2d5e5272c1009841c1af02cfc82e078632ccf9ba0c945cadacb& [9/2/2018 6:23 PM] pseudonym01 Not sure if that helps but that's everything as it currently is [9/2/2018 6:24 PM] pseudonym01 If need be can download and load that file but the file is not currently the issue [9/2/2018 6:31 PM] talkers Show me the lower right screen in reworks [9/2/2018 6:31 PM] pseudonym01 Sent [9/2/2018 6:31 PM] pseudonym01 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/485955023344500737/JPEG_20180902_183136.jpg?ex=67b90ce2&is=67b7bb62&hm=e32c47c00f59f470ba25a3ef957aa16a20281da2c4433fc7cf378ab087a4d36d& [9/2/2018 6:35 PM] talkers Odd. [9/2/2018 6:36 PM] talkers Sorry I missed it before. Network issues [9/2/2018 6:36 PM] pseudonym01 The position numbers on the laser change when pressing the arrow keys but the laser head doesn't move [9/2/2018 6:36 PM] pseudonym01 No problem [9/2/2018 6:37 PM] talkers Try turning off the laser. Make sure nothing under lens. Close lid. Two switches on the right. First turn off machine, then laser [9/2/2018 6:37 PM] talkers Wait a minute. Turn on machine, turn on laser [9/2/2018 6:38 PM] pseudonym01 Alright standby [9/2/2018 6:38 PM] talkers K [9/2/2018 6:39 PM] pseudonym01 Laser head tracked left [9/2/2018 6:39 PM] pseudonym01 Issue seems to be resolved [9/2/2018 6:39 PM] pseudonym01 Appreciate the tech support {Reactions} 💜 [9/2/2018 6:41 PM] talkers ✌ {Reactions} 💜 [9/2/2018 6:56 PM] pseudonym01 Adobe requiring sign in now? [9/2/2018 6:56 PM] talkers No [9/2/2018 6:57 PM] talkers Two versions on some machines. Be sure to choose the 2018 [9/2/2018 6:57 PM] pseudonym01 Yep 2018 asking for sign in [9/2/2018 7:01 PM] pseudonym01 Oh well just saw my next cut will take an hour almost so I don't have the time unfortunately [9/2/2018 7:01 PM] pseudonym01 I'll try again later [9/2/2018 7:04 PM] scott_blevins Pseudonym01, might we know you by another name? [9/2/2018 7:06 PM] talkers @pseudonym01 usually you can ignore the creative cloud prompt [9/2/2018 7:10 PM] pseudonym01 I've met John a couple times in person butt I don't think we've met yet [9/2/2018 7:10 PM] pseudonym01 @john a gorman tried a couple times [9/2/2018 7:10 PM] pseudonym01 But oh well, line I said I needed to head out anyways [9/2/2018 7:11 PM] scott_blevins Okay, figured you might be a new Committee member that I might have known. [9/2/2018 7:20 PM] talkers @pseudonym01 but I don't know you as @pseudonym01. I know you as ______? [9/2/2018 7:51 PM] pseudonym01 Jake [9/2/2018 7:52 PM] pseudonym01 Taken a number of your classes, most notably, the pen making class on the lathe, where I super glued my hand together and had to restart the project twice due to exploding wood {Reactions} 🍭 [9/2/2018 8:01 PM] talkers Lol ✌ [9/3/2018 12:55 AM] gothannie lol @pseudonym01 omg same! I felt like a dweeb when it busted; but the second try portion of the pen *turned* out great (pun unavoidably intended) {Reactions} 😂 [9/3/2018 12:56 AM] talkers It happens. A lot. 🙄 [9/3/2018 12:57 AM] shunsui89 @Scott_Blevins I caught that joke Scott, it wasn't in vain {Reactions} 👍 [9/3/2018 9:56 AM] pseudonym01 Hmm still getting asked for Adobe sign in when launching illustrator 2018, any suggestions? [9/3/2018 11:18 AM] talkers Ask in the Infrastructure channel [9/6/2018 12:20 AM] merissa4308 FYI Brandon posted about fix to big thunder on Talk. If someone will take a look to confirm all is well, then can show it as operational again {Reactions} 👏 (2) [9/6/2018 9:44 AM] stephenie. Even though I live close, am booked for most of today. Will be up to the space for the PR vote tonight. Can look at it afterwards. [9/6/2018 9:44 AM] stephenie. If no one gets to it first. [9/6/2018 9:45 AM] stephenie. Brandon @AGr ...thank you for the prompt response. [9/7/2018 12:53 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/resolved-big-thunder/42171 {Reactions} 👍 [9/9/2018 3:20 PM] merissa4308 Are minutes for the August or September committee meetings available somewhere? [9/9/2018 3:46 PM] stephenie. Merissa, I've been booked this week. I will get to it on Monday when Nick is in school. [9/9/2018 3:47 PM] stephenie. August meeting minutes are on talk. Forgot to link to wiki [9/9/2018 3:47 PM] stephenie. Will fix tomorrow [9/9/2018 3:48 PM] merissa4308 Ok, thank you. Not trying to be a pest, but interested in the status of things since chair voting soon [9/9/2018 3:48 PM] stephenie. understood. [9/9/2018 3:49 PM] merissa4308 Don't see anything on Talk for August [9/9/2018 11:29 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/member-meeting-tomorrow-or-makers-assemble/40621/32 [9/10/2018 6:20 AM] merissa4308 Thank you! [9/10/2018 3:55 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/september-2018-laser-meeting-minutes-including-rules-change/42564 [9/10/2018 3:56 PM] stephenie. ^^ this surely will not blow up Talk. Right? [9/10/2018 3:57 PM] canibalcrab *she said, knowing the real answer* [9/10/2018 3:58 PM] stephenie. _wonders if her bar is stocked enough for the storm ahead_ [9/10/2018 3:59 PM] merissa4308 Can the expansion layout be shared? [9/10/2018 4:00 PM] canibalcrab its been posted on the walls so i imagine its okay to share [9/10/2018 4:01 PM] merissa4308 Are we talking specifically for the laser area or just where the committees are going? [9/10/2018 4:02 PM] stephenie. Am walking out the door. typing fast. [9/10/2018 4:02 PM] stephenie. will post when I can get to laptop. [9/10/2018 4:03 PM] stephenie. laser layout is at mercy of engineer expansion team has hired, as he/she is figuring blower size, location, and roof penetrations. [9/10/2018 4:03 PM] merissa4308 Ok thank you! [9/10/2018 4:12 PM] agr0090 Who is directly communicating with this engineer? [9/10/2018 4:15 PM] canibalcrab The ever transparent "expansion committee" is [9/10/2018 4:18 PM] agr0090 Curious how much we would be paying to be told we need 3 or 4 roof penetrations the same size as the current ones over laser. Also using industrial blowers will be over 10x more than continuing with the $200 harbor freight blowers that works great [9/10/2018 4:32 PM] canibalcrab We should be using blowers like the plasmancutter [9/10/2018 4:32 PM] canibalcrab But as far as I know we are going to have to really fight for more roof penetrations [9/10/2018 4:38 PM] agr0090 style of blower on plasma cutter is not rated for the pressure that laser manufacturers recommend [9/10/2018 4:41 PM] scott_blevins We have made our desire for adequate roof penetrations (to accommodate an eventual 5-6 lasers in the new space allocated to us) very well known to the expansion committee. I would hope the independent Engineer’s assessment aligns with this ‘To-Be’ scenario. If there are other penetrations we can effectively and efficiently tap into as part of the new design, I’m sure that will be considered as well. [9/10/2018 4:44 PM] agr0090 Last time I tried to contact someone like Cincinnati Fan (https://www.cincinnatifan.com) when specing out last time we got more lasers, (requested quote for ~500-700 cfm @ 3" wc, so something in the 2000 - 2500 cfm total range for 3 lasers), they forwarded my request for a quote to Texas Air Handlers (local distributor) and then they never got back to me [9/10/2018 4:45 PM] agr0090 The first build out each penetration was something like $500-700 I think, the largest hurdle being getting landlord approval, putting in 4 shouldn't be a problem, but where exactly they are put is critical to reduce length of piping [9/10/2018 4:46 PM] scott_blevins Agreed on the landlord approval hurdle. [9/10/2018 4:50 PM] agr0090 I think I was asking for 3 inches water column pressure to decrease price, most install guides I can find are actually 6 inches water column for ventilation [9/12/2018 10:00 AM] damons4731 Hi #laser I'm new to the Dallas Makerspace. I read there's a intro laser class this morning; however, I discovered registration too late. Is it possible to drop in to this class this morning? I'm here at the space, but I don't want to be disruptive. 😃 Appreciate any advice. [9/12/2018 10:05 AM] damons4731 @stephenie ^^ [9/12/2018 10:09 AM] scott_blevins You can fly standby [9/12/2018 10:09 AM] stephenie. The instructors are very kind. Tommy is teaching that class. The worst that can happen is he will say no. [9/12/2018 10:10 AM] scott_blevins Arrive and announce your intention to attend. If there’s room, you can join. [9/12/2018 10:10 AM] scott_blevins Instructors prerogative. [9/12/2018 10:10 AM] stephenie. The issue is crowding around the lasers. [9/12/2018 10:10 AM] scott_blevins ^^^^^This. [9/12/2018 10:19 AM] damons4731 Got it. Thank you. [9/12/2018 3:13 PM] kylealty7118 Is gold foil laser-able? I want to cut out a flamingo and use it in an art project for my daughter's about me poster board for pre-school. [9/12/2018 3:44 PM] kylealty7118 According to google imitation gold foil is 85% copper and 15% zinc. I'm guessing vaporized copper is a bad thing... 😦 [9/12/2018 3:48 PM] merissa4308 Would gold vinyl work for your project? Then cut on the vinyl cutter in CA? {Reactions} 👆 [9/13/2018 12:44 AM] hon1nbo is the gold foil going to be already adheared to some other substrate? Could probably use the Shapeoko CNC instead if you want to keep the material. [9/13/2018 8:25 AM] kalty7342 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I like that idea [9/13/2018 11:29 AM] shdragon Would these be ok to put under the laser - https://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMASTER-Black-Gray-24-in-x-24-in-x-0-47-in-Dual-Sided-Gym-Floor-4-Pack-24120HDUS/301152506 Sadly, the product page doesn't say what they're made of, just saying they're "...made from a proprietary co-polymer formulation." I'm not looking to cut through, just mark some score lines. (I have a design I need cut, but I have it at small size and need to scale it up and just realized that I can scale things up in ImageWorks, then score the lines and then cut by hand. {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMASTER-Black-Gray-24-in-x-24-in-x-0-47-in-Dual-Sided-Gym-Floor-4-Pack-24120HDUS/301152506 TrafficMASTER Black/Gray 24 in. x 24 in. x 0.47 in. Dual Sided Gym... Add rich expression to your living area or gym floor by choosing this gorgeous TrafficMASTER Black or Gray Dual Sided Gym Floor. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fVMVxaGGG6-SuHh4JYug8kokhE5yRnKpNBpUGlIfpzE/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/db37ba1d-c5b3-49c3-a868-eef33da17b4e/svn/black-and-gray-trafficmaster-gym-flooring-24120hdus-64_300.jpg [9/13/2018 12:36 PM] canibalcrab Eva floor foam cuts pretty well [9/13/2018 12:39 PM] shdragon Yeah, I just can't confirm 100% that this is *actually* EVA. [9/13/2018 12:39 PM] shdragon They go out of their way to assure you that it's safe, but refuse to tell you what it actually IS. [9/13/2018 12:46 PM] canibalcrab Er sorry we use that a lot in cosplay stuff. Eva is usually used as it's generic name [9/13/2018 12:47 PM] canibalcrab But it lasers well and will destroy bladed tools (fair warning) [9/13/2018 12:48 PM] canibalcrab I use it to make stamps. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/489854868056571906/JPEG_20180829_023542.jpg?ex=67b96525&is=67b813a5&hm=8c4f94c28078304c7bc01e0421b6754b4688d537ed8a8dd33237b127b6c9712b& [9/13/2018 12:48 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/489854960385654784/JPEG_20180829_023322.jpg?ex=67b9653b&is=67b813bb&hm=fd16ef7ac19dc49e9bcc5823f2f1cd3165b624e9dadb6c9c6b245fe066bd64e8& [9/13/2018 5:13 PM] stephenie. wow. I wish there was a stamp making class. [9/13/2018 5:14 PM] stephenie. @merissa hi. thank goodness Brandon started posting on layouts. I am falling down on the job! [9/13/2018 5:14 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-expansion-layout-ideas/42815 [9/13/2018 5:17 PM] merissa4308 No worries, thank you for sharing! [9/13/2018 5:17 PM] merissa4308 I was thinking the same thing on a stamp class! I want to learn! [9/13/2018 5:22 PM] canibalcrab I'll see if I remember to do a step by step when I go to the Polyprinter shop tonight [9/13/2018 5:22 PM] canibalcrab Then someone can run with it in a class {Reactions} dms (2) [9/13/2018 5:54 PM] joshw0263 Any body at the space now with first hand knowledge of dinner z axis problem I am not getting any grinding noise want to double check before I open it for use [9/13/2018 6:18 PM] joshw0263 Donner online and ready for use {Reactions} 🏆 (3) [9/13/2018 6:25 PM] canibalcrab nice [9/15/2018 8:13 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/new-rule-session-limit-in-effect/43043 [9/15/2018 8:14 PM] stephenie. ^^^ Whew. Wordsmithing. Not for the faint of heart. [9/16/2018 10:42 AM] merissa4308 Running a couple mins late for the meeting, but will be there soon! [9/16/2018 4:31 PM] stephenie. Laser Chair-elect is Andrew Kongs @sixvolts_ and Vice-Chair is Josh Wims @JoshW . [9/16/2018 4:36 PM] canibalcrab I'll move chair titles after the board meeting. Thanks for stepping up yall {Reactions} 👍 (2) [9/18/2018 11:32 AM] merissa4308 Since we were talking Epilogs the other day, thought I'd share the price list I got from them middle of last year as an fyi {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/491647595199070208/Epilog_Laser_Price_List_V1702.pdf?ex=67b95341&is=67b801c1&hm=951401ff83b5cfe8bbf64e5c6263d83b6d35f766aecb34e648ac310dad95f266& [9/18/2018 11:33 AM] merissa4308 I asked about discounts for us as a non profit but didn't get anything specific back from them [9/19/2018 1:00 PM] sixvolts_ I wonder if we can buy the chassis cable of dual-source and add the fiber laser later, so that we're not paying for everything up front. [9/20/2018 11:26 AM] stephenie. Blitzen is not cutting true. [9/20/2018 11:26 AM] stephenie. I'm working on my 10x10. Two layers to be glued together. [9/20/2018 11:26 AM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/492371096478416900/photo_2018-09-20_11-19-51.jpg?ex=67b95211&is=67b80091&hm=ebcfc4071b569ba407cedbbb1e0828379b96b3fcc97f77bf2869b9e56c56d4b6& [9/20/2018 11:27 AM] stephenie. I lined up one edge (resting on the worktable...you can't see it.) [9/20/2018 11:27 AM] stephenie. This is the opposite edge [9/20/2018 11:28 AM] scott_blevins Is it under warranty? [9/20/2018 11:28 AM] scott_blevins Lots of issues lately [9/20/2018 11:28 AM] stephenie. @merissa Warranty thoughts? [9/20/2018 11:29 AM] stephenie. I will put a sign on the laser and notify membership on Talk. [9/20/2018 11:38 AM] merissa4308 I saved warranty docs in the laser committee drive [9/20/2018 11:42 AM] stephenie. @sixvolts_ ^^ [9/20/2018 11:43 AM] stephenie. So my work was in 10x10. Wanted to eliminate user error possibility, so cut two plain 3x3 cardboard squares directly from RDWorks. Doesn't show, but cardboard is squishy. So... [9/20/2018 11:44 AM] stephenie. Cut 6x6 from scrap hardboard. Now the skewing shows at that size. [9/20/2018 11:48 AM] stephenie. The two squares match up when layered in the original cut orientation. [9/20/2018 11:48 AM] stephenie. Rotate one 90-degrees and ...ouch...clearly not cutting true. [9/20/2018 11:49 AM] stephenie. Just showed @john a gorman [9/20/2018 11:50 AM] sixvolts_ Ok, that’s likely a mechanical issue. Optics on the machine should be spot on, realigned everything Sunday with Pearce. [9/20/2018 11:53 AM] sixvolts_ What does warranty work look like? Does thunder have on-site service in the US? [9/20/2018 12:30 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/492387091477692427/Product_Warranty_Certificate_1706321-1.pdf?ex=67b960f6&is=67b80f76&hm=76adfc1d01a59fa9693b5ae83138dc0ef5b4dc8f14eaa1b71610edc89b258055& [9/20/2018 12:30 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/492387209010479109/Product_Warranty_Certificate_1706321-2.pdf?ex=67b96112&is=67b80f92&hm=a9d9a9530cf30a23485ceef159f56801a497270623df404a0e09049dcd0d9734& [9/20/2018 12:31 PM] stephenie. One goes to Blitzen, the other to Donner. I don't know which is which. [9/20/2018 12:31 PM] stephenie. Considering this is the result of a severe head crash, I don't see how the warranty applies. [9/20/2018 12:32 PM] stephenie. (The optics were wonderful, btw. Beautiful raster.) [9/21/2018 10:46 PM] talkers Power at the space flickered. The blower for thunder 63 is not coming on. [9/21/2018 10:46 PM] talkers It's working on the other lasers [9/21/2018 10:47 PM] talkers @AGr [9/21/2018 11:57 PM] talkers Problem fixed. Rebooting 63 fixed it {Reactions} dms (2) [9/27/2018 10:35 PM] joshw0263 Blitzen not ideal do not turn air down [9/28/2018 6:30 PM] stephenie. Shaun Dixon needs to know. He uses Blitzen and turns the air down. [10/2/2018 11:04 AM] andrew5152 sounds like big thunder's been FUBAR'd... https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-laser-down-after-bed-raised-too-high/44081 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-laser-down-after-bed-raised-too-high/44081 Thunder laser down after bed raised too high Laser bed raised too high crashed into laser. Out of order sign in place. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [10/3/2018 6:46 PM] scott_blevins Due to Open House being on Sat., Oct. 5, the Lasers definitely all need maintenance BEFORE Sunday’s Maintenance Day. Tommy and I tried using Big Thunder today, and the power was probably 20% of its’ capacity. If anyone on Team Laser can give the 3 Thunder Lasers a detailed check-up late Friday night, or very early Saturday morning, it will greatly help with Open House. I had to get back to work today, otherwise I would have started looking at them. [10/4/2018 2:09 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-down-blitzens-lens-trashed-10-04-18/44252 [10/4/2018 3:30 PM] merissa4308 Seems lenses are getting destroyed way too often lately [10/4/2018 3:31 PM] scott_blevins Laser usage seems to be on an up-tick recently, but yes I agree. [10/4/2018 3:55 PM] canibalcrab Lots of rastering with a close nozzle [10/5/2018 5:42 PM] canibalcrab Here's the problem with the big thunder {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/497901346234826773/JPEG_20181005_174151.jpg?ex=67b90143&is=67b7afc3&hm=4f9c3e0546d44f29a4619bbfba39449f05c7adfb42c6f4f9469b984327b9e0dc& [10/5/2018 5:46 PM] canibalcrab It works now on the x y [10/5/2018 5:59 PM] canibalcrab Aligned [10/5/2018 5:59 PM] canibalcrab And vacuumed [10/5/2018 5:59 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/497905662827954205/JPEG_20181005_175914.jpg?ex=67b90548&is=67b7b3c8&hm=9d44eb439ec5951bffc757e7f70426b220c85bb0ee8cbd4b0002823f6e0feba0& [10/5/2018 6:06 PM] canibalcrab Big thunder is fixed now {Reactions} 🏆 [10/5/2018 6:14 PM] canibalcrab I put it back in service [10/5/2018 6:20 PM] merissa4308 Nice work Pearce! [10/5/2018 6:22 PM] canibalcrab I have no idea how that part gets bent [10/5/2018 6:58 PM] joshw0263 I will be there for clean up at HD renting a tool for the space [10/5/2018 10:20 PM] joshw0263 Thanks for all the great volunteers who came out to make laser look great for open house. [10/6/2018 8:18 AM] stephenie. I overheard a few compliments about how many and how happy our Team Laser was in action. [10/7/2018 9:34 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-oktoberfest-or-monthly-meeting-10-7-18-11am/44407 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-oktoberfest-or-monthly-meeting-10-7-18-11am/44407 Laser Oktoberfest...or "Monthly Meeting" (10/7/18 11am) [photo5030901241022097382] [photo5030785062156740613] [photo5030785062156740614] @Team_Laser…three Laser “meetings” in one weekend? Why not! Friday’s open house cleaning, Saturday’s Open House, and today’s First Sunday Maintenance Day with a side of Committee ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CVW8m554ltNNkB5jqSeSKjnVouJD8OB2UiRb1z8yZeY/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/9/0/906fa48287f1360a8e8b2fd33a6ca3f096951243_1_666x500.jpg [10/15/2018 11:44 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-105-office-hours-in-october-and-november-2018/44813 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-105-office-hours-in-october-and-november-2018/44813 Laser 105 Office Hours in October and November 2018 [LaserOfficeHours] I’m committing to offering Office Hours in October and November on nights that my son @NickWebb is busy elsewhere. Am hoping to give some members a boost with their skills, especially with the gift giving season coming up. Happy Lasering! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7O75SH5fDZtBcwmxxd_l2UP6DhE3Op7EuXbs3RTs2sA/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/b/8/b84023479f7c6b7110af5f312243929213ba8bcb_1_690x394.jpg [10/15/2018 11:48 PM] stephenie. Office Hours went well tonight. Two members, Angel and Matt, needed Inkscape help. Taught Bitmap Trace, Document Properties, Break Apart, Combine, Fill & Stroke, Inset/Offset, and how to manipulate nodes. Also taught how to remote into the desktop to get around the lost thumbdrive problem. Both members walked away very happy. [10/15/2018 11:49 PM] stephenie. My son Nick has a men's woodworking group on Mondays through November, so I'll keep holding Office Hours through that time. {Reactions} 👍 (3) [10/16/2018 11:25 AM] gbeauw You're awesome Stephenie. Great mentoring you are doing. [10/16/2018 11:29 AM] stephenie. Any of our team can host office hours or help out on another session. @pinewoodnut has hosted before. And his Laser 204 Holiday Ornaments is a hands-on Inkscape class that I will be recommending. Having two people staffing Office Hours can be beneficial when there are lots of people wanting help. If anyone would like to join me, see the published dates. [10/16/2018 11:30 AM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/501793998013333546/Laser204.jpg?ex=67b952d4&is=67b80154&hm=804e0c04037792099e267256bc12e1884d81049f844ebc7bd91d83e3c3149954& {Reactions} dms [10/19/2018 7:26 PM] gothannie I'm too lazy to search. I have my file, but using a USB Flash drive to open it on the laser computer says some sort of "incorrect version" message. I just installed RDWorks on my laptop. I also tried Google drive, but same issue. [10/19/2018 7:26 PM] gothannie I'm sure there's a work around or someone else ran into this issue [10/20/2018 9:31 PM] pinewoodnut Sounds like a version mismatch in rdworks. Take a look at the committee drive and you should find the install files for the version we have on the laser computers. The latest version from the internet is probably newer. They keep changing the file formats and the newer versions aren't backwards compatible with the older. We'll see about getting the new version tested on our machines with our lasers, then we can upgrade. [10/21/2018 10:54 AM] gothannie Thank you so much!! [10/22/2018 8:43 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-office-hours-tonight-10-22-2018-at-7pm/45094 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-office-hours-tonight-10-22-2018-at-7pm/45094 Laser Office Hours tonight 10-22-2018 at 7pm [LaserOfficeHours] https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7O75SH5fDZtBcwmxxd_l2UP6DhE3Op7EuXbs3RTs2sA/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/b/8/b84023479f7c6b7110af5f312243929213ba8bcb_1_690x394.jpg [10/29/2018 10:50 PM] stephenie. Office Hours report. Aided 5 members: Gary Rogers, Mike Jones, Julia, a John Doe, and Steve Wynne. Gary needed to practice the workflow; took him through Inkscape-to-RDWorks-to-laser operation. Mike, an experienced user, needed help on an intricate design that was running into common bugs. Julia had a quick question. The John Doe brought in a found foam and asked if he could laser it; told him "no", to order known materials that are approved. Steve had box making questions that were answered by Ryan. An all around good evening. [11/1/2018 4:59 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/issue-donner-laser-malfunctioning-poor-cutting/45637 [11/2/2018 1:35 PM] joshw0263 Remember laser maintenance day Sunday Nov 4th lasers down from 12 to 2:30ish [11/29/2018 8:25 AM] spookyspeck Not sure if anyone knows but I figured I'd ask, I'm setting up Lightburn on my computer so I can get started with some projects. When setting up the program it asks for a laser or controller but Thunder isn't on the list? Does anyone know which device am I going to be selecting so my projects will work on the Thunder Laser machines? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/517707602273239040/unknown.png?ex=67b93586&is=67b7e406&hm=8f46be2ddb97aaa9a0207e4ab0b436dd60e583a7784b4cc31099d80d8cf4a194& [11/29/2018 9:32 AM] spookyspeck Scratch that, I didn't see that it lists what lasers each controller supports. For anyone else's reference, you have to use the Ruida controller 😃 [11/29/2018 9:31 PM] joshw0263 Sunday December 2nd is meeting and maintenance day.🙂 {Reactions} 🍷 [12/3/2018 9:59 AM] stephenie. From Shaun this morning: "Saturday night I was cutting & etching 1/32 inch plastic on Donner. Today (Monday) cutting the same material and the laser is off. Donner is cutting a double line, another line from my etch line. I also had to cut the speed in half for it to cut through. Tried Thunder cutting 1/8 inch acrylic at 85% power & 16 speed ran it twice and it still didn’t cut through. Used Blitzen and I had to use 85% power & 12 speed to cut 1/8 acrylic. I know when the laser lens are changed the lasers cut much better. Do we have a time set to change the lens?" [12/3/2018 10:00 AM] stephenie. FYI: Shaun now has a job on Sundays, so can't make the meetings and Maintenance. [12/3/2018 11:11 AM] canibalcrab I couldn't cut though 1/4 wood on thunder the other night. [12/3/2018 11:12 AM] canibalcrab Also of note, I forgot to pay. I'll do that today [12/5/2018 7:29 PM] hasteur1068 Concurring that Thunder doesn't seem to cut as nice as Donner. Same job that etched down to an acceptable depth on Donner barely cut through a first layer of acrylic on Thunder. [12/6/2018 5:40 PM] hasteur1068 Confirming that rockler in Richardson still offers the dms discount [12/6/2018 5:54 PM] canibalcrab yep [12/6/2018 5:54 PM] canibalcrab at least as of 2 weeks ago [12/6/2018 6:27 PM] hasteur1068 Confirmed tonight [12/6/2018 6:28 PM] hasteur1068 Picked up a lovely piece of walnut [12/6/2018 10:07 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/big-thunder-needs-a-new-lens-12-06-2018/47473 [12/6/2018 10:08 PM] stephenie. Big Thunder's lens is cracked. I need to be trained on lens replacement. Until then...trouble ticket has been opened and laser is out of service. [12/6/2018 11:11 PM] stephenie. All three Thunders are out of service. [12/6/2018 11:12 PM] stephenie. See above for Big Thunder. [12/6/2018 11:13 PM] stephenie. Blitzen's blower will not come on. It also has a ticket open for an error message. [12/6/2018 11:14 PM] stephenie. Donner's barely etching, not cutting, and the vector cut has a path that looks like a fountain pen drew it. [12/6/2018 11:17 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/blitzen-extended-space-error-not-powering-laser-12-06-18/47465 [12/6/2018 11:53 PM] mizgeek A moment of silence for the lasers. -bows head- [12/7/2018 12:00 AM] shdragon o7 [12/7/2018 12:07 AM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/out-of-service-donner-is-weak-and-poorly/47479 [12/7/2018 12:08 AM] stephenie. Donner's lens and mirrors were clean, but I cleaned them anyway just in case. No visible burns or cracks. No improvement on the cutting. [12/7/2018 6:35 AM] scott_blevins Lots of newly minted laser users on-boarded over the past few months. I’d be curious to know if the machine’s average runtime has jumped this past quarter, relative to the previous 3-4 quarters. [12/7/2018 6:58 AM] canibalcrab Always does in November/December [12/7/2018 6:58 AM] scott_blevins Yes, a confounding variable for sure. [12/7/2018 7:14 AM] scott_blevins Perhaps a measure of wear and tear would be to compare this OND quarter versus last years same quarter, factoring for the net increase in the number of newly minted Laser users and incremental hours of machine runtime. [12/7/2018 2:56 PM] stephenie. From @john a gorman on Talk: "Donner is back up. I put the wide open cone and it fixed the problem. Better fix is aligning the mirrors again." [12/7/2018 3:53 PM] canibalcrab Wide nozzle will mean it will need cleaning more often [12/7/2018 10:46 PM] talkers @pearce the tube on 63 is getting hot quickly. I think that's why the lens was completely shot. [12/7/2018 10:47 PM] canibalcrab Right. So it's off center [12/7/2018 10:47 PM] talkers It still would cut though with a new lens. But I believe that lens would quickly crack too [12/7/2018 10:47 PM] canibalcrab But [12/7/2018 10:47 PM] canibalcrab The wider nozzle will help [12/7/2018 10:48 PM] canibalcrab It means the dirt will collect faster. Just keep on top of the cleaning [12/7/2018 10:48 PM] talkers Even with the wider cone off Blitzen it was getting hot [12/7/2018 10:49 PM] canibalcrab Then it's waaay off [12/7/2018 10:50 PM] canibalcrab Lense flipped the right way? [12/7/2018 10:53 PM] talkers Yes [12/7/2018 11:04 PM] canibalcrab Gotta be off then [12/9/2018 12:20 PM] pseudonym01 If I was wanting to etch something on wood, but wanted to reduce burn "stains" could I successfully use masking tape over the wood to help with that? [12/9/2018 12:21 PM] canibalcrab A bit of sanding will take the burns off the top of the wood [12/9/2018 12:22 PM] canibalcrab Tape can leave residue from the glue inside the rasters and can be harder to clean out [12/9/2018 12:29 PM] pseudonym01 Noted, thanks [12/10/2018 9:22 AM] gbeauw Team, I need to let you know that I'm having to deal with a very aggressive Glioblastoma (GBM) Brain Cancer. They 100% removed a big tumor about 3 weeks ago and I start Radiation and Chemo this week. Following that, I will look into shaving my head and wearing an electrode cap that will apply electro-magnetic fields to the GBM cancer cells to try to keep them from dividing and creating more tumors. (I will have to do this the rest of my life.) The hope is that the cap will extend my life from the 14 - 18 months that GBM often cuts you short to 4-5 or more years . [Fingers Crossed]. The reason I'm telling you is that all of this will limit the amount of time I can help with Laser Maintenance. {Reactions} 🌻 [12/10/2018 1:49 PM] stephenie. Oh Beau, not you! Say it isn't true! [12/10/2018 2:24 PM] gbeauw I wish it wasn't true. When initially told, I had a really hard time taking this in. Since then I've made plans to fight these cancer cells with every treatment (including the electrode cap) or any other thing that will buy me more time. I'm now really hoping I can squeeze another 4-5 years of life out of this or hopefully even more. [12/10/2018 2:25 PM] gbeauw BTW, Glioblastoma is the same cancer that killed Senator John McCain. I think he may have had it worst than what they found in me. Right now I feel fine and have no mental or motor skill issues. I hope that means I have a higher/longer survival chance. [12/10/2018 2:41 PM] stephenie. This saddens me more than I can say. The selfish benefit of chairing Laser is getting to know so many members. Am so glad you are one of them. [12/10/2018 2:44 PM] stephenie. You are darling to even think of notifying Team Laser. We'll break the news to Zing. [12/10/2018 2:45 PM] stephenie. I've found making and the Space to be a sanctuary. May you find it to be so as well. [12/11/2018 2:29 PM] merissa4308 @gbeauw this news saddens me too. But we all know how strong and determined you are, so if anyone can fight it you can. [12/11/2018 4:34 PM] tomthm9900 Thank you for letting us know. Thoughts and prayers and my offer to help if there is anything I can do. Tommy, 940-783-5259 [12/14/2018 12:30 PM] merissa4308 I'm a couple days late, but happy birthday to our baby thunders! 🎂 🎇 Donner and Blitzen came online a year ago on Dec 11th {Reactions} dms [12/14/2018 8:02 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/thunder-laser-not-cutting-well-12-14-2018/47942 [12/14/2018 11:32 PM] joshw0263 The following is a PSA if you are an authorized maintainer only do things you are trained to do and please lock things back up. Thanks Joshua W [1/6/2019 7:51 AM] stephenie. Meatball sliders today! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/531469872434118657/photo5012602635936704582.jpg?ex=67b92da3&is=67b7dc23&hm=0618927837216c531d402b205c434c29aaba7f862be43bfb82844de87a5bf4df& [1/6/2019 7:52 AM] stephenie. Might not make 11am meeting. Could be wrapping sandwiches. [1/6/2019 9:45 AM] gbeauw Won't be able to make it to the meeting today. I am unable to drive while getting these treatments. I've been having to have wife drive me everywhere. However, she is busy this AM so I can't make it. Have a good meeting folks. {Reactions} 👍 (2) [1/7/2019 7:51 PM] stephenie. @gbeauw If you'd ever like a ride, sing out! [1/7/2019 7:51 PM] stephenie. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-finances-or-how-to-replace-30-40k-worth-of-lasers-every-2yrs/48987 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-finances-or-how-to-replace-30-40k-worth-of-lasers-every-2yrs/48987 Laser Finances...or how to replace $30-40K worth of lasers every 2yrs TLDR: By collecting a laser fee, when these machines need replacing, we are not putting a $30,000-40,000 burden on the General Fund every two years. The risk is spread out among the laser users in proportion to their rate of usage. The fee is a pittance compared to commerci... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [1/7/2019 7:51 PM] stephenie. ^^^ the education continues. [2/14/2019 2:10 PM] canibalcrab I missed the laser meeting last night I guess [2/14/2019 2:10 PM] canibalcrab Did y'all fill up the chiller on the big thunder [2/14/2019 2:14 PM] canibalcrab Wtf is this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/545699434676224023/JPEG_20190214_141429.jpg?ex=67b8deb3&is=67b78d33&hm=967c56f796ea3ca62eece03e20e5570605c410f0c55e01aea3627b290a8d26e7& [2/14/2019 2:29 PM] sixvolts_ That’s someone’s idea of a fix. Not team laser for sure. [2/14/2019 3:15 PM] canibalcrab It's a good way to start a fire [2/14/2019 3:15 PM] canibalcrab But big thunder is fixed and the bed is aligned now [2/14/2019 3:16 PM] canibalcrab Looking at donner [2/14/2019 3:25 PM] canibalcrab We didn't actually use up all the mirrors did we? [2/14/2019 3:35 PM] canibalcrab I was wrong, left z motor is likely dead on big thunder. Works occasionally [2/14/2019 3:50 PM] canibalcrab Special note. Make sure tensioners are tightened before releasing laser to public. [2/14/2019 3:53 PM] canibalcrab Big is fixed. I was wrong on motors [2/14/2019 4:00 PM] canibalcrab The auto blower isn't working for thunder either [2/14/2019 4:26 PM] canibalcrab Donner is double cutting lines and I'm not sure how to fix it at the moment {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/545732581455560714/JPEG_20190214_162601.jpg?ex=67b8fd92&is=67b7ac12&hm=f650f1ff6f5dfcafa0703fb8db1f23e50b5ed75fae792c1dd90d9f487c83e0d9& [2/14/2019 5:20 PM] canibalcrab I aligned it pretty well. But it's still double cutting. I'm not sure what else to check. It could be the head that's crooked from over tightened belts [2/20/2019 3:16 PM] canibalcrab School I'm doing repairs at actually got a glowforge {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/547889278970232833/JPEG_20190220_151557.jpg?ex=67b8ed27&is=67b79ba7&hm=a9e409bcd6473c5f5df363c9ed9c2ba1fe8278cac801737e4f2a02d8517b6400& [2/20/2019 3:16 PM] canibalcrab They hate it [2/27/2019 4:49 PM] jbeiler55 Is Big Thunder running currently? Apologies if status is listed somewhere. [2/27/2019 4:52 PM] aceat64 @pearce was there last night, he might know [2/27/2019 5:08 PM] canibalcrab @jbeiler55 sorry I didn't look at the lasers last night [2/27/2019 7:12 PM] jbeiler55 @pearce No worries, thanks anyways! [3/10/2019 8:12 PM] dioxim Hey I took a thunder class and the attendence must have not set me up for the rfid scanner on the thunder lasers. Is there any way to get this fixed? Making it to another class would be quite a challenge [3/10/2019 8:42 PM] canibalcrab I didn't think they were locked out yet [3/10/2019 8:42 PM] canibalcrab You might be able to use it without the reader [3/10/2019 9:01 PM] dioxim I can still use it just wanna get official ^_^ [3/10/2019 9:05 PM] canibalcrab @sixvolts_ would know about the rfid readers [3/10/2019 9:25 PM] dioxim Awesome! Yall good if I use it till he is able to help? [3/10/2019 9:47 PM] dioxim The laser I mean haha [3/10/2019 9:58 PM] canibalcrab hes the chair so he would be the one to answer that [3/10/2019 10:01 PM] dioxim Cool! [3/12/2019 11:47 AM] pseudonym01 Anyone have experience cutting cloth? Is it possible to do without starting a fire? [3/12/2019 12:51 PM] canibalcrab What kind? [3/12/2019 12:51 PM] canibalcrab Denim works really well if it's all natural. [3/12/2019 12:52 PM] canibalcrab Synthetic is going to be the real issue. Melty and chatching fire is just a recipe for napalm [3/12/2019 12:54 PM] merissa4308 I know some members have cut cloth for quilting designs, I think mainly on the Zing, but I don't have experience with it myself. You might post the question on Talk and tag Chris Marlow. [3/12/2019 12:55 PM] merissa4308 She had some pictures posted to show and tell a while back [3/12/2019 1:06 PM] canibalcrab You need to turn the air down, but that means watching it really close. You can do some cool stuff with fabrics as long as it doesn't get melty or have PVC/vinyl in it [3/12/2019 1:11 PM] pseudonym01 Makes sense, thanks all [3/12/2019 6:55 PM] mizgeek Does mounting it on heatnbond or freezer paper help or hurt? [3/12/2019 7:00 PM] canibalcrab I have no idea [3/12/2019 7:00 PM] canibalcrab The laser might not play nice with the heat bond glue [3/12/2019 7:03 PM] mizgeek Bah. Long term goal to do silhouettes on black fabric to appliqué on quilts. Because I don’t have enough projects going 😆 [3/13/2019 4:03 AM] ashley772 Anyone operate one of these or similar? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/555315028971225088/maxresdefault.jpg?ex=67b8ea2c&is=67b798ac&hm=bbe2278d288d08cba30e00ef8044a3c56992a9b7b09b05675e87b423c5ba47c5& [3/13/2019 4:24 AM] canibalcrab Looks like a large CNC laser? [3/13/2019 4:27 AM] ashley772 Yes. It's a TRUMPF TruLaser 5030 Fiber. I don't know if this group covers CNC lasers or not... I'm still new to the game and am trying to learn as much as possible. [3/13/2019 4:33 AM] canibalcrab @themitch22 might have used a similar one from multicam. But we don't have anything close to that at the DMS [3/15/2019 2:23 PM] alyssa_25033 All the lasers Multicam have made are CO2 lasers. The largest one they had while I was there was a 4KW one but they never ran it and it mostly collected dust. It had so much power though it needed water cooled optics [3/17/2019 11:56 AM] pseudonym01 Thunder seems to be having a communications error when trying to download file to the laser [3/17/2019 11:56 AM] pseudonym01 Any suggestions? [3/17/2019 12:03 PM] canibalcrab Unplug and try again [3/17/2019 12:03 PM] canibalcrab Or power cycle laser and pc [3/17/2019 12:42 PM] pseudonym01 Thanks! [3/27/2019 12:10 PM] aceat64 Fyi, I suggest the old laser be sold via public auction. There's not a huge market for used lasers, so defending an arbitrary price would be difficult, bidding via a public auction is clear fair market pricing. [3/27/2019 12:11 PM] aceat64 Everyone is given a chance to buy it and the DMS will get as much as possible for it [3/27/2019 12:11 PM] andrew5152 Whaaa?!? I was told I could have it for COLD ham&cheese! [3/27/2019 12:13 PM] aceat64 You didn't offer $25? 🤣 {Reactions} 🤣 [3/27/2019 12:13 PM] andrew5152 "They" said "name your price". Wonderbread, ham, cheese was all I had on me... {Reactions} 😂 [3/27/2019 12:18 PM] aceat64 Not even a condiment? Disgusting [3/27/2019 12:20 PM] andrew5152 That's now the worst...it was Kraft Singles!!! 🤣 {Reactions} 💩 🤣 [3/27/2019 1:20 PM] agr0090 does public auction mean ebay or are there other services? [3/27/2019 1:21 PM] aceat64 Could do silent auction via craigslist, I'm sure there's lots of options [3/27/2019 1:21 PM] aceat64 Just be sure to mention it's on the buyer to pick up the laser lol [3/27/2019 1:24 PM] canibalcrab @lukeiamyourfather headed up the full spectrum laser sale, I believe it was done via Craigslist auction [3/27/2019 3:58 PM] redbeardedpirate Started internal because it seemed like a good idea at the time, later went external to get fair market value once I realized that wasn't going to happen internal [3/27/2019 3:59 PM] redbeardedpirate eBay would probably be the best option or a combination of eBay and Craigslist [3/27/2019 4:03 PM] kenpurcell Yes the best option was to the broader public. [3/28/2019 9:21 PM] nullinterface Probably a day late and a dollar short, but was there an impactometer on the new Thunder? [3/28/2019 9:21 PM] agr0090 No idea who uncrated it [3/28/2019 9:22 PM] canibalcrab They mentioned who unpacked on the talk thread about the dock being cleared [3/28/2019 9:23 PM] canibalcrab https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/resolved-order-from-thunder-arriving-wed-3-27-19-am/53330/21 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/resolved-order-from-thunder-arriving-wed-3-27-19-am/53330/21 [RESOLVED] Order from Thunder arriving Wed 3/27/19 AM Stan ,There was a lot of damage to the crate and th e top had been pried open so Tommy, myself and one other member opened it and the unit appeared ok but we didn’t want to throw the crate away until we were sure it wasn’t going to be returned. Tommy and I took photos of... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GREycx0bNWOKA1OUaw6ZU0D1XpdrlJ8hnKWQpPazGFQ/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/letter_avatar/jeff_moore/200/5_1017516fff9cfe3c69f855e6deabc902.png [3/28/2019 9:25 PM] nullinterface Ala... [3/28/2019 9:25 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/561012931869933578/Screenshot_20190328-212438.png?ex=67b93582&is=67b7e402&hm=206f67b917d052e9cf550fa11f71ee6a4f7d88874d50d1a14ea5f0dce84bb636& [3/29/2019 10:50 AM] merissa4308 Multiple reports on Talk that all three lasers are down. Anyone from team laser working on this? @JoshW @sixvolts_ [3/29/2019 10:52 AM] sixvolts_ Josh is our of town and I can’t make it up there till tomorrow. Hopefully someone can check them out before tomorrow {Reactions} 👍 (2) [3/29/2019 10:56 AM] merissa4308 Is there a known issue with the chiller or do we think it's just time to refill? [3/29/2019 11:09 AM] sixvolts_ I think there’s a small leak [3/29/2019 11:16 AM] sixvolts_ It’s been filled too much recently. There shouldn’t be a noticeable drop in water regularly [3/29/2019 11:58 AM] canibalcrab Well I found out that if you mysteriously lose 1.75 gallons of water and none is on the floor, it's inside your laser tube. Hopefully that's not the case here [3/29/2019 1:02 PM] sixvolts_ Nope thankfully not. Looks like it has been fixed per a post on Talk {Reactions} dms [3/29/2019 1:04 PM] canibalcrab We have to stop letting people turn the air assist off [3/29/2019 1:05 PM] canibalcrab The lense use is insane {Reactions} ☝ (2) [3/29/2019 2:15 PM] stephenie. Former Chair supporting removal of the valves. In ideal enviroments, the valves are features, not bugs. So we kept them and added warning flags as a half measure to see if that would slow down the deterioration. No dice. The users have proven that the valves are a bug in a 634+ user shop. We can afford the lenses...we cannot afford the wear and tear on our volunteers. [3/29/2019 2:18 PM] merissa4308 +1 from another former chair [3/29/2019 2:23 PM] kentamanos just curious, what are the legitimate use cases for turning off the air assist? [3/29/2019 2:28 PM] stephenie. Yes. That's why it's a feature. But our instructors do not teach those reasons because we don't want the practice to be widespread. There's ways to get same results without turning off air assist. So the time has come to remove that amenity. [3/29/2019 2:40 PM] aceat64 The only reason I ever remember was when cutting fabric, so it wouldn't blow away [3/29/2019 2:41 PM] aceat64 Even then it doesn't alway need to be off {Reactions} 👍 [3/29/2019 2:41 PM] canibalcrab @Kentamanos it can help get better edges on acrylic. But that can be done with lower air pressure instead of turning it off {Reactions} 👍 [3/31/2019 2:12 PM] nullinterface Either of the small Thunders in service? [3/31/2019 4:43 PM] stansimmons2031 I think the one near Metal Shop is working. David Summers was using the Big Thunder 30 min ago [3/31/2019 10:31 PM] nullinterface Guess I'll determine as much experimentally sometime during the week. [4/2/2019 8:31 PM] nullinterface Since I ghosted without paying... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/562811376876126219/Screenshot_20190402-203040.png?ex=67b928f0&is=67b7d770&hm=f8467339c88e6716995475c681d616030b9d1128a13356401390d85f7002378a& [4/2/2019 9:15 PM] stephenie. Thanks for following through [4/2/2019 9:28 PM] nullinterface Turned onto Valwood and remembered [4/6/2019 1:36 PM] kalty7342 The laser on Donner isn’t firing. Tried restarting the machine, varying power from 30-65%, and loading new file. X/Y is tracking but no laser action. Any advice? [4/6/2019 2:14 PM] kalty7342 Update, laser on Donner will fire from light burn but not RDWorks... [4/6/2019 7:27 PM] canibalcrab I helped someone the other day would had the low power setting on rdworks set to 100 and the high power set to 00. This made it not fire [4/6/2019 7:27 PM] canibalcrab Dunno if that's the case. But worth a shot [4/9/2019 11:33 AM] mell.jpg This little thing makes reference to team laser's wiki. Good job y'all! https://hackaday.com/2019/04/08/a-laser-cutting-101/ {Embed} Al Williams https://hackaday.com/2019/04/08/a-laser-cutting-101/ A Laser Cutting 101 If you’ve worked with a laser cutter before, you might not find much new in [Maker Design Lab’s] recent post about getting started. But if you haven’t, you’ll find a lot of … https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ammnvkY9AuwqLg_jShmRW5dEL5hlS-_1-DcJISrXQkg/https/hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/laser.png {Reactions} 👏 👍 (3) dms [4/9/2019 12:24 PM] andrew5152 I can't really explain how exciting a silly little thing like that is to me. But I suspect, seeing that you posted it here, I don't really NEED to explain it to this audience. Thank you for the share! [4/9/2019 12:57 PM] mell.jpg No I get it That's what makerspaces are all about. We're sharing our knowledge everywhere and it's so cool to see! [4/9/2019 12:59 PM] mell.jpg AND it's great that we sourced some of that from the ATX Hackerspace. {Reactions} dms [4/17/2019 5:27 PM] scott_blevins Anybody know why DMS Talk is on ‘lockdown’? [4/17/2019 5:28 PM] canibalcrab I guess it was to update [4/17/2019 5:29 PM] merissa4308 There's discussion about it over in the General Chatter channel [4/17/2019 5:29 PM] scott_blevins Ah okay thx. [4/17/2019 5:30 PM] merissa4308 Is it down again? [4/17/2019 5:31 PM] scott_blevins It appears to be back up now [4/17/2019 5:31 PM] scott_blevins Was down as recently as the last hour [4/17/2019 5:31 PM] scott_blevins Stan’s pointing to a software update/upgrade [4/17/2019 5:32 PM] merissa4308 Ah, ok [4/17/2019 5:34 PM] merissa4308 Also earlier on Talk there was a post about the Zing running unattended... @sixvolts_ , @JoshW just wanted to make sure y'all were aware in case you want to try and track down the user [4/17/2019 5:35 PM] scott_blevins Saw that. Thx. As a former Committee VC, I have no access to cameras. [4/17/2019 5:37 PM] merissa4308 Same. Willing to assist if help is needed though [4/17/2019 5:47 PM] sixvolts_ I saw, we’re looking into it. Thanks [4/17/2019 5:51 PM] merissa4308 Awesome, thanks! [4/23/2019 4:11 PM] scott_blevins Greetings Laser enthusiasts, I have submitted a statement of intent to run for the 2019-2020 BoD. I invite you all to review my SOI content on Talk and if you like what you see, please consider me during the upcoming election. Thank You {Reactions} dms (7) [4/23/2019 4:21 PM] scott_blevins Here’s a link for ease of use: https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/2019_Statement_of_Intent_Scott_Blevins {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/2019_Statement_of_Intent_Scott_Blevins 2019 Statement of Intent Scott Blevins [4/24/2019 9:23 AM] hon1nbo I think you're late on the SOI submission [4/24/2019 9:26 AM] merissa4308 No, I don't think so. People have until midnight tonight (April 24th) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/570616486310313995/Screenshot_2019-04-24-09-25-17.png?ex=67b935c3&is=67b7e443&hm=a8b9c4f182b0dbc33978be1ca692911f443c7cba62d57c42b2eb3ee239447afb& [4/24/2019 9:27 AM] scott_blevins That is correct. 11:59 PM tonight is the deadline for submitting statement of intent. [4/24/2019 9:53 AM] aceat64 Funny enough, we don't have any minutes for when either deadline was approved {Reactions} dms [4/24/2019 9:59 AM] hon1nbo ah, for some reason thought it was last week [4/24/2019 9:59 AM] hon1nbo there's still no official minutes [4/24/2019 9:59 AM] hon1nbo and lots of confusion [4/24/2019 10:00 AM] hon1nbo so go figure [4/24/2019 10:00 AM] scott_blevins Improved communications is a pretty widely shared platform goal for the current slate of candidates. I am strongly optimistic that the 2019-2020 incarnation of the Board (provided the right people are elected) will address this communication gap. {Reactions} 👏 (5) [4/24/2019 10:00 AM] merissa4308 Originally it was, the dates have been muddied several times [4/26/2019 7:23 PM] canibalcrab I might have left some small aluminum stamps on a laser table [4/26/2019 7:24 PM] canibalcrab Something like this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/571491819859476500/JPEG_20190415_041959.jpg?ex=67b9193b&is=67b7c7bb&hm=3046580c2cfb1623e974da12f8c67dc495a38b06014ed4578fc36094dc43b265& [4/26/2019 7:24 PM] canibalcrab If someone finds them let me know please [4/26/2019 10:48 PM] yashsedai What time? [4/26/2019 11:09 PM] canibalcrab We left around 4am so sometime between 3 and 4. I was also in the machine shop and table at automotive using them [4/26/2019 11:11 PM] yashsedai ill check the video [4/26/2019 11:11 PM] canibalcrab Thanks [4/26/2019 11:12 PM] canibalcrab Don't put a ton of effort into it though, I'll likely just get more made when mill time opens up on our machine [4/26/2019 11:44 PM] yashsedai aight [4/26/2019 11:44 PM] yashsedai so it looked like you put at least one in the bag you wear on your person [4/26/2019 11:45 PM] yashsedai can you check it? [4/26/2019 11:45 PM] yashsedai black waist bag? [4/26/2019 11:53 PM] canibalcrab I have but will check again [4/26/2019 11:53 PM] yashsedai im still watching the video [4/26/2019 11:53 PM] yashsedai lol trying to hit the obvious points 😛 [4/26/2019 11:55 PM] canibalcrab Negative [4/27/2019 12:04 AM] yashsedai hrm [4/27/2019 1:22 PM] canibalcrab We just ended up making revised ones {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/571763110428278800/MVIMG_20190427_124816.jpg?ex=67b96d24&is=67b81ba4&hm=97b5bc405dab6d24b797f64d651e03aa1bf43f7c0f7af6921feeeabc906b33b9& [4/28/2019 12:58 PM] mizgeek So when is the class on making cool stamps like that? [4/28/2019 2:52 PM] canibalcrab Right now [4/28/2019 2:54 PM] canibalcrab Step 1. Have a bunch of scrap from 3d printer production Step 2. Get bored with a 4 axis mill Step 3. Pick up leather work as a hobby Step 4. Figure out way to use scrap aluminum+mill+hobby to make tools [4/28/2019 2:56 PM] mizgeek My inner mother says I have to finish my current projects before I get any new hobbies. 😝 [4/28/2019 2:57 PM] mizgeek I have ABS scraps 😉 [4/30/2019 12:15 PM] scott_blevins Request for Agenda Topic to the be added to the 5/5 Laser Committee Meeting: Review recent Laser usage infractions and determine appropriate ‘next-step’ actions to be taken in order to (A) address known infractions with said members and (B) implement procedures to try and curb future member infractions going forward.. Thanks, Scott [4/30/2019 1:37 PM] stephenie. @yashsedai ...redirecting to this channel...Team Laser does a pretty good job handling its corrective actions off of open online forums (public Talk and Discord). We're fortunate that our equipment has userlogs so we can easily match up photo to name and take it from there. It also helps that a chair of another committee (Jim Hartnett/Metal Shop) took the initiative to confront a safety issue in another committee's area. Laser wouldn't have caught it otherwise. And it helps that the chair of another committee (Stan/Infrastructure) was willling to handle the removal of the offending member as a way to reduce tension. [4/30/2019 1:41 PM] stephenie. When I was Chair and Scott was VC, we always included recent enforcement in the agenda. It's important to notify the Team so they can keep an eye out for issues, educate people when on site, plus they have voted or given feedback on consequences. [4/30/2019 3:50 PM] merissa4308 So committee meeting is this Sunday right? Will there be voting on chair for the next term? [4/30/2019 5:01 PM] mell.jpg Hi Team Laser! Just a friendly reminder that Office Hours don't qualify for honorarium. Feel free to message me if you want to talk about it. Just rejected a couple of requests. (it's still very valuable and thank you!) [4/30/2019 7:08 PM] stephenie. @mell thanks for the reminder. Having held several Laser Office Hours, I can attest that they don't qualify for honorarium. Just a service to the Laser community. {Reactions} 👍 [5/1/2019 6:36 PM] canibalcrab So blitzen seems to be getting stuck. I'm telling you info you already know [5/1/2019 6:36 PM] canibalcrab But I'm gonna take a stab at it. [5/1/2019 6:37 PM] canibalcrab First thought is it's getting stuck on this gouge. It lines up with the bearing when it stops {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/573291914380443672/JPEG_20190501_183647.jpg?ex=67b90e33&is=67b7bcb3&hm=bbf746a887b6c0d9329753ec8329e11bca1b49b6ed9d18d3256ca7e052e2ef10& [5/1/2019 6:40 PM] canibalcrab And nope [5/1/2019 7:16 PM] canibalcrab The software parameters check out fine. It could be the encoder being bad in the motor [5/1/2019 7:16 PM] canibalcrab We should reach out and see if they will send us a motor [5/1/2019 7:21 PM] canibalcrab There's your problem {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/573302945127464981/JPEG_20190501_192056.jpg?ex=67b91879&is=67b7c6f9&hm=ee290957746070ac614cbb7238ec81e7567f8120bde9f07ead6718378d6297d9& [5/1/2019 7:21 PM] canibalcrab It thinks this was 119mm of movement [5/1/2019 7:21 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/573303038006132756/JPEG_20190501_192133.jpg?ex=67b9188f&is=67b7c70f&hm=38983dc798063a71e235d31cb69c861d7ce9e2afc2b3191f29ae5428ad36b97d& [5/1/2019 7:23 PM] canibalcrab @sixvolts_ or whoever contacts thunderlaser [5/1/2019 7:25 PM] sixvolts_ Thanks for investigating. I’ll ask thunder [5/1/2019 7:28 PM] michaelb5250 @pearce We had an issue like this on big thunder when some software was updated. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/big-thunder-down-4-20-2019-resolved/54570/5 [5/1/2019 7:39 PM] canibalcrab @michaelb it's not a rotary problem [5/1/2019 7:39 PM] canibalcrab It will only move hall way down the gantry because the encoder thinks it's moving faster than it really is [5/1/2019 7:40 PM] canibalcrab Just slightly more than double [5/1/2019 8:05 PM] canibalcrab Allen clarified @michaelbs post for me [5/1/2019 8:07 PM] canibalcrab Open rdworks Go to output on left side. Click read under rotate engrave(but don't check the box) Laser shows it thinks it's in rotary mode Uncheck rotate box Send cut program in flat mode Test [5/1/2019 8:07 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/573314634866753556/JPEG_20190501_200728.jpg?ex=67b9235c&is=67b7d1dc&hm=3328177c57a579bac0274f56a7402fa645d40d31bb025d2525a8f47dd1d025eb& [5/1/2019 8:08 PM] canibalcrab Laser thought it was in rotary {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/573314718228414475/JPEG_20190501_200742.jpg?ex=67b92370&is=67b7d1f0&hm=529c3006851e336c96c4a97fd48a11cbdcafb0bba32594a35da55e40cf0ef27b& [5/1/2019 8:09 PM] canibalcrab To solve the issue of only moving half way: Make sure the enable rotary box is unchecked. Click write. Problem solved [5/2/2019 6:49 AM] kenpurcell Thanks @pearce! glad it was "user" error. [5/2/2019 7:17 PM] merissa4308 Does team laser still do potluck style food for meeting days? If so, trying to plan what to bring... 🍴 [5/2/2019 7:53 PM] stephenie. @sixvolts_ @JoshW [5/2/2019 8:37 PM] sixvolts_ Yes, we try to. Would be appreciated! [5/2/2019 8:38 PM] andrew5152 not telling you what to do, but I AM telling you Bon Apetit publishes seasonal recipe lists... https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/slideshow/spring-recipes {Embed} https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/slideshow/spring-recipes 29 Recipes to Get You Really Excited for Spring These are our 29 very best springtime recipes—bring on the peas! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IT24USdbNYoD2hyzx5qrnQyLHwmk0h4hzaXUlv15CEs/https/assets.bonappetit.com/photos/57d6dd412e9e46792492c750/16%3A9/w_1600%2Cc_limit/herbed-pea-sauce.jpg [5/2/2019 8:56 PM] merissa4308 Oh my, some of those look super yummy [5/3/2019 12:16 AM] michaelb5250 @sixvolts_ I won't be able to make it this week, I'd like to propose an automatic blast gate on big thunder so we don't waste airflow when it's not in use. 6" automatic gates are expensive (~$250), so the option to roll our own is certainly on the table. I feel comfortable enough with the blower system to say that we can tie it in and have it open only when needed, no user involvement required. [5/3/2019 9:19 PM] sixvolts_ I think getting one of those for each machine would be pretty reasonable [5/3/2019 9:23 PM] yashsedai Sooo [5/3/2019 9:23 PM] yashsedai I actually have a gate design [5/3/2019 9:23 PM] yashsedai And the components for 1 [5/3/2019 9:24 PM] yashsedai Cost for the components minus a normal gate is sub $50 [5/3/2019 9:24 PM] yashsedai Happy to share [5/3/2019 9:24 PM] yashsedai Uses a current transducer to open [5/3/2019 9:28 PM] doug.emes Awesome! [5/3/2019 10:06 PM] yashsedai its based in part off of these http://www.nmpproducts.com/exhaust.htm [5/4/2019 2:33 PM] michaelb5250 @yashsedai We have a 5v signal output from the laser, it's time delayed so it'll stay on after the laser job stops, which lets it clear the last of the smoke out. [5/4/2019 2:33 PM] michaelb5250 However, the mechanics of the blast gate and the opener would be very useful [5/4/2019 2:34 PM] yashsedai Sure [5/4/2019 2:34 PM] yashsedai I'll order a 6" gate for testing I think they are twenty bucks [5/4/2019 2:35 PM] yashsedai The air Valve controller that runs the Piston that uses five so that'll work fine {Reactions} 👍 [5/5/2019 3:57 AM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/574519968364888074/JPEG_20190505_035711.jpg?ex=67b8e8aa&is=67b7972a&hm=e819fc61f8f7a9b5de1a08278f678be2a0dee3718528641f4aeb4c42fc5f9bc1& [5/5/2019 3:57 AM] canibalcrab This stuff has been on the laser table for a few days now. [5/5/2019 5:50 PM] merissa4308 Laser had a good short meeting today. The chair election will be Sunday May 19th [5/5/2019 5:51 PM] merissa4308 All four lasers we're back in service after maintenance too [5/5/2019 5:52 PM] draco_the_drake okay .. I will update the committee election list {Reactions} 👍 [5/5/2019 8:15 PM] talkers Thanks @merissa & @Draco. Anyone running/rerunning for chair? [5/5/2019 8:18 PM] merissa4308 @sixvolts_ said he's willing to stay on, his intent was to see things through expansion, but I think he'd be supportive if anyone else wants to step up [5/5/2019 8:20 PM] sixvolts_ Yep, I’m willing to continue. {Reactions} 👍 (2) [5/5/2019 8:23 PM] merissa4308 Thanks Andrew! Laser's lucky to have your expertise! [5/5/2019 8:51 PM] talkers 👌 ✌ [5/5/2019 9:46 PM] merissa4308 @sixvolts_ want me to submit the calendar event for the election? [5/5/2019 10:38 PM] merissa4308 Well I went ahead and submitted event because of the silly notification 13 days and 12 hrs rule [5/5/2019 10:40 PM] merissa4308 I put it in for Sunday 5/19 at 1pm in the conference room because purple was taken. If we end up duplicating I'll cancel that one [5/6/2019 3:39 AM] draco_the_drake I approved the meeting in the calendar {Reactions} dms [5/6/2019 9:09 PM] sixvolts_ Thanks Merissa {Reactions} 👍 [5/6/2019 9:09 PM] sixvolts_ And Draco [5/6/2019 9:41 PM] draco_the_drake No problem [5/6/2019 9:42 PM] draco_the_drake Now if we can just Automotive, Hatcher's, Software and Blacksmithing to schedule meetings 😉 [5/6/2019 9:42 PM] draco_the_drake err elections [5/6/2019 11:02 PM] canibalcrab software chair is MIA/banned someone else will need to make the meeting [5/7/2019 2:21 PM] limeytx Anyone know if Allied plastics is best place for neon acrylic? [5/7/2019 2:45 PM] kenpurcell I like EStreet Plastics for Neons https://www.estreetplastics.com/ {Embed} https://www.estreetplastics.com/ Plexiglass Acrylic and Other Plastics - Precut Sheets or Cut To Si... Shop for plexiglass sheets, acrylic, lexan polycarbonate, acrylic mirror, acrylic tubes, rods, styrene, and other plastics. Precut sheets or cut to size. [5/7/2019 3:07 PM] limeytx Are they out in Royse City? [5/7/2019 3:08 PM] andrew5152 my "research" says yes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/575413775956574210/unknown.png?ex=67b8dd56&is=67b78bd6&hm=02776baab536fdc1db59c3acbae786635d0d9803fbde5ca94a1488b703fcabdb& [5/7/2019 3:09 PM] andrew5152 https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Plastics_Suppliers {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Plastics_Suppliers Plastics Suppliers [5/7/2019 4:26 PM] kenpurcell Yes, I do a fair amount of will call pickups. Good in a pinch [5/8/2019 10:12 PM] joshw0263 Acrylic only please No lexan on lasers it causes damage. [5/9/2019 11:01 AM] andrew5152 any laser proficient lurkers? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/catching-fire-on-the-new-laser/55437 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/catching-fire-on-the-new-laser/55437 Catching Fire on the new laser Today a fellow member and came in early to laser cut some Radio Controlled plans from Dollar Tree $1 foam. We have previously cut many sheets of foam on the lasers. One of them was un-serviceable and another was occupied so we had to use the NEW laser. Does it have a name?... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [5/9/2019 11:31 AM] canibalcrab Responded {Reactions} 👍 (2) [5/9/2019 11:32 AM] canibalcrab He likely compensated for the power levels of the old machines and used those settings on a fairly new machine {Reactions} 👍 [5/9/2019 11:33 AM] canibalcrab There's that tip people always ignore "*ALWAYS* do a test cut" [5/9/2019 11:33 AM] scott_blevins Probably could use some eyeballs on it to check for soot. [5/9/2019 11:33 AM] canibalcrab Yeah [5/9/2019 11:34 AM] canibalcrab I might be over later tonight {Reactions} 👍 (3) [5/9/2019 4:53 PM] limeytx Hoping to use it in an hour or so. Is it out of action? [5/9/2019 4:53 PM] canibalcrab I haven't been able to check [5/9/2019 4:54 PM] canibalcrab Tag me when you get there and I can walk you through a checklist [5/9/2019 5:00 PM] michaelb5250 I was up there at 3 and it was in use. Didn't get to check the lens [5/17/2019 11:21 AM] merissa4308 Hey folks, don't forget that there's a laser committee meeting Sunday at 1 pm to vote on chairperson [5/17/2019 11:27 AM] lavarocks. Who is running [5/17/2019 11:48 AM] merissa4308 Current chair Andrew (@sixvolts) is running for another term. [5/17/2019 11:49 AM] merissa4308 Don't know of anyone else, but would be nice for people to come out and support him [5/17/2019 1:43 PM] stephenie. 👍 [5/17/2019 1:56 PM] nullinterface so what *are* the failure modes for our lasers? I'm aware of lens cracks, head crashes, mirrors getting smoked up... [5/17/2019 2:06 PM] canibalcrab Those [5/17/2019 2:13 PM] nullinterface z-axis issues? [5/17/2019 2:13 PM] nullinterface or is that uncommon? [5/17/2019 2:14 PM] canibalcrab Uncommon [5/17/2019 2:14 PM] canibalcrab Unless people try to crush things under the table [5/17/2019 2:17 PM] nullinterface hydraulic press not so reliable in that regard these days ... [5/17/2019 2:43 PM] hon1nbo also z axis problems when someone tries to make a wood shim to level the bed instead of leveling it properly. [5/17/2019 2:45 PM] canibalcrab Yar [5/17/2019 2:45 PM] canibalcrab Because fire is good for lasers [5/17/2019 2:56 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah not sure I would call them failure modes but common maintainence is mirror alignment, dirty plenum space, bed not level. Recently also the linear rails are coming lose. None of those require replacement parts but do take time. Some days I feel like fire would be a good solution... {Reactions} dumpsterfire [5/17/2019 3:17 PM] nullinterface it can have cleansing properties [5/19/2019 2:19 PM] merissa4308 Congrats to Andrew @sixvolts_ ! Re-elected for another term as laser chair [5/19/2019 2:19 PM] mizgeek Congrats Andrew! [5/19/2019 2:50 PM] sixvolts_ Thanks! I appreciate the support. Happy lasering! {Reactions} 👍 (3) [5/19/2019 4:32 PM] michaelb5250 @sixvolts I've got some replacement duct for big thunder [5/19/2019 9:12 PM] stephenie. @sixvolts_ https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/no-show-instructor-common-new-member-question/56182 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/no-show-instructor-common-new-member-question/56182 No Show Instructor Common? (New Member Question) I’m a new DMS member and rsvp’d for my first class this evening but the instructor did not show up. I confirmed with some others working in the area that we were in the right spot; after 20 minutes or so of waiting, my son and I gave up and left. Is this something that h... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [5/19/2019 9:13 PM] stephenie. I don't know if Mark Salas is on discord. Can you find out what happened and circle back on that thread? [5/19/2019 9:13 PM] stephenie. https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/12242 [5/19/2019 9:25 PM] sixvolts_ Ok, posted. I saw him at the space today [5/20/2019 6:26 PM] canibalcrab @sixvolts_ do you have a stash of spare lenses? [5/20/2019 6:27 PM] sixvolts_ Yes, black cabinet in the corner. [5/20/2019 6:30 PM] sixvolts_ just sent you the code to the cabinet [5/20/2019 6:46 PM] canibalcrab all fixed {Reactions} dms (2) [5/27/2019 9:22 PM] hon1nbo Just walked by a laser running with no one around it [5/27/2019 9:22 PM] hon1nbo I paused the job [5/27/2019 9:23 PM] hon1nbo The computer is not logged in nor is the RFID kiosk active with a user, would need to load up a camera to see who it is. [5/27/2019 9:23 PM] hon1nbo Blitzen @ ~9:20pm Monday May 27, 2019 [5/27/2019 9:23 PM] hon1nbo @sixvolts_ [5/27/2019 9:25 PM] hon1nbo Also for future reference, is the job timer HH:MM:SS? If so it looks like it may have been running for quite a while [5/27/2019 9:25 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/582756371473367052/IMG_20190527_212511.jpg?ex=67b935aa&is=67b7e42a&hm=a4134865311809b3bb80084b2b2a6acf8721b54a028a6f6f56e6d77c4b899e55& [5/27/2019 9:26 PM] sixvolts_ Is there a flash drive in the laser [5/27/2019 9:26 PM] hon1nbo I checked there is not [5/27/2019 9:26 PM] hon1nbo Just the USB B cable [5/27/2019 9:26 PM] hon1nbo They could have logged out, just wasn't an unlocked desktop when I got here [5/27/2019 9:27 PM] hon1nbo Yeah logged off, not locked [5/27/2019 9:27 PM] sixvolts_ Yes, hours/minutes/seconds works that way [5/27/2019 9:29 PM] hon1nbo He's back [5/27/2019 9:30 PM] hon1nbo Looks to have been gone for almost 10min based on camera [5/27/2019 9:30 PM] hon1nbo How do you want to proceed? [5/27/2019 9:31 PM] sixvolts_ Get his name, ask him to stop his job and leave. Have him PM me on talk [5/27/2019 10:09 PM] canibalcrab Thanks @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium [5/29/2019 7:13 PM] merissa4308 Laser committee meeting and maintenance day this Sunday 6/2 [5/29/2019 7:14 PM] merissa4308 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-committee-meeting-and-maintenance-day-sunday-6-2/56748 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-committee-meeting-and-maintenance-day-sunday-6-2/56748 Laser Committee Meeting and Maintenance Day Sunday 6/2 Hey everyone! Interested in our lasers? Come be part of the @Team_Laser committee! We meet the first Sunday of every month, with our next events this Sunday, June 2nd. Committee Meeting from 11am-noon in Lecture Hall https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/125... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [6/2/2019 1:01 PM] joshw0263 Just a gentle reminder you must remain in arms length of machines in operation at all times this rule is being enforced as has been dont risk our machines or space. Thanks Team laser {Reactions} 🔥 (3) dms (3) 👍 [6/7/2019 12:50 AM] doug.emes Fyi were Lmost our of the backers for the badges were mKe on the zing. [6/7/2019 11:42 AM] judykriehn3727 @doug.emes Did a certain opinionated short person who had her clay dried out when somebody’s piece of metal poked a hole in the clay bag type this for you? [6/7/2019 1:47 PM] doug.emes hah, no just my ability to type when im in bed on my phone about to go to sweet slumber... my typing on my phone is drastically reduced. 😃 [6/7/2019 1:47 PM] doug.emes so, today, after much coffee [6/7/2019 1:48 PM] doug.emes FYI, we are almost out of the self adhesive magnetic backer plates for our self-made badges. the Bicolor plastic ones we raster and vector on the Zing laser. with the DMS logo on the left hand side [6/7/2019 2:24 PM] nullinterface hm, I value anonymity *(at least as much as I can realize being almost **outlier** tall)* but perhaps I need one being a DMS officer and everything [6/7/2019 2:25 PM] doug.emes i'd suggest you need 2: one for when you generally speaking availabel, and one when you are "off the clock, doing my own personal thing, please find someone else" [6/7/2019 2:27 PM] nullinterface My ability to disregard randoms when I'm "off the clock" is rather pronounced [6/7/2019 3:40 PM] yashsedai i need one haha [6/7/2019 3:42 PM] canibalcrab i thought my giant headphones would work as "im off the clock" but noooo [6/7/2019 3:57 PM] stansimmons2031 People here just ignore headphones. 😦 [6/7/2019 4:23 PM] mizgeek I don’t ignore them on you, Stan. I just stand there looking stunned and panicked while I look for alternatives. You usually take pity on me. 😁 [6/7/2019 5:51 PM] judykriehn3727 Or ducks lower behind the monitors... [6/7/2019 5:52 PM] mizgeek He has done that. 😝 [6/7/2019 7:33 PM] stansimmons2031 ... it doesn't seem to work. 😮 [6/7/2019 7:33 PM] stansimmons2031 lol [6/13/2019 10:12 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/588928606693097484/IMG_20190613_220411.jpg?ex=67b94081&is=67b7ef01&hm=18c6b8860151f57782b47622e969494dd0930a6e265b7ec8019cd33567f631c9& [6/13/2019 10:12 PM] michaelb5250 That's the upper water tube on Donner. We think that was the cause of the leak [6/13/2019 10:13 PM] michaelb5250 We replaced the tube, I'm going to let it run for a few hours and check again, call it working if it's not leaking [6/13/2019 10:13 PM] agr0090 Given I never learned the names, which one is donner? next to metal or next to epilog? [6/13/2019 10:14 PM] agr0090 is that build up just where water was leaking and evaporating or would other internal coolant loop parts look like that as well? [6/13/2019 10:25 PM] aceat64 Could be galvanic corrosion if there are dissimilar metals in the loop, unless we've got additives in the water to help prevent it [6/13/2019 10:33 PM] michaelb5250 Metal shop [6/13/2019 10:33 PM] michaelb5250 It's worst at that spot. A few others had similar issues but not as bad [6/14/2019 8:48 AM] kenpurcell Was the tube non-functional? Also do we have plenty of DI or Distilled water on hand. I have seen people put plain tap water in. Might be worth it to fluss the cooling loops/chillers. [6/14/2019 8:54 AM] michaelb5250 There's generally some distilled kept in one of the silver cabinets. The tube was working but it was leaking enough water that we didn't want the laser to be used for fear or running it dry and damaging it {Reactions} 👌 [6/14/2019 8:54 AM] aceat64 If we're only doing DI and there's dissimilar metals it can happen again, for PC water cooling there's additives we use to prevent it [6/14/2019 8:55 AM] michaelb5250 A big label on each that says distilled only might stop people from putting in tap water. That could be a problem. [6/14/2019 8:57 AM] michaelb5250 @aceat64 I think you're on to something there. I've suggested automotive antifreeze but that didn't go over well. It needs something in it long term. [6/14/2019 8:59 AM] aceat64 How much water is in the loop roughly? [6/14/2019 9:00 AM] aceat64 I can check on pricing for additives but will need a ballpark idea for how much water we need to treat [6/14/2019 9:01 AM] michaelb5250 Looks like the answer is expensive. Iirc there's 3-4 gallons in the loop [6/14/2019 9:01 AM] kenpurcell Officially strange request. If we have now or in the future any truly dead tubes. I would like one for science for a project. We would like to attempt to recharge either as a flowing gas tube or even better a sealed mix. Airgas actually is now carrying the premix for sealed tubes. [6/14/2019 9:03 AM] michaelb5250 We did have one dead tube, but I don't think it'll ever function as a laser again (cracked output mirror). I forget who claimed it. [6/14/2019 9:09 AM] aceat64 Good news, it looks like we can use automotive solutions like Water Wetter [6/14/2019 9:09 AM] aceat64 That should cut down on corrosion [6/14/2019 9:09 AM] aceat64 Probably just a bottle or two per loop should do it [6/14/2019 9:10 AM] aceat64 ~$10/bottle [6/14/2019 9:17 AM] kenpurcell Cool, we are in no hurry. Science can only handle 3 concurrent projects. [6/14/2019 9:18 AM] kenpurcell I use a little car antifreeze in my laser but it is a tiny 50 watt. [6/14/2019 9:36 AM] andrew5152 hm. car guys say water wetter does NOT inhibit corrosion... (also, Holy Flippin' Flashbacks, Batman! I had no idea it was still around, nor had any idea it had infiltrated the computer cooling market) PS car guys say just add a drop or 2 of Dawn to your coolant, and it has the same effect... [6/14/2019 9:40 AM] michaelb5250 The laser is an open system, I'd be worried about the dawn frothing up in the tank. Problem with any of this is that it'll take months or more before we can even tell if it's working. [6/14/2019 9:41 AM] michaelb5250 I'd suggest we throw something in big thunder since it's a new tube and check back in 6 months, see if there's any corrosion. [6/14/2019 9:44 AM] andrew5152 oh, I'm not advocating putting dawn in the laser. I have no idea what'll happen there, although I will say that you only get froth if you introduce air, so keeping the lines submerged would mean no sudz. Also, at those concentrations, you don't really get sudz even with extra air; you're using too much if you do. Never the less, I know nothing about doing that with laser coolers. I was just saying what I've observed in the last um...let's say 20 years in the automotive enthusiast segment. [6/14/2019 12:14 PM] judykriehn3727 Should we ask how many years in the covered wagon enthusiast segment? (Just kidding) [6/14/2019 12:24 PM] judykriehn3727 I wonder how Tanner Electronics feels about their new parking lot resident? [6/14/2019 12:29 PM] yashsedai LOL [6/14/2019 12:29 PM] andrew5152 ¿!? [6/14/2019 6:23 PM] michaelb5250 Well fix one thing and another pops up. I can run the water pressure up a bit and make donner spray out of the brass fitting. Next up, jb weld on the OD of the fitting. [6/14/2019 6:31 PM] hon1nbo yeah we knew the fitting itself was leaking. Was the spare tube not installed? [6/14/2019 6:31 PM] hon1nbo at least the fitting itself was leaking last week or so when it was first found [6/14/2019 6:32 PM] canibalcrab yeah the fitting was deff loose [6/14/2019 6:54 PM] michaelb5250 I saw the fitting moving when we first took it out of service, but it doesn't anymore. I assumed it was either fixed or imagined. [6/20/2019 3:30 PM] joshw0263 any one know what happed to blitzen front locks [6/20/2019 3:33 PM] canibalcrab Bent or was that the cylinder I saw on the table nearby? [6/20/2019 3:33 PM] joshw0263 cylinder completely missing I will look around for it [6/20/2019 3:35 PM] canibalcrab i saw it on the pc desk near the door yesterday, but i dont know much else. lots going on [6/20/2019 10:37 PM] joshw0263 Dear Makers and @Team_Laser Impromptu laser area clean up saturday 22 3:30pm till 4:30-4:45 pm otter pop fest. Join me in making OUR space better. The clutter of things in laser area has gotten out of hand and will be fixed saturday if you have accedientally left items in our area pleas remove them before this as there is no personal storage in committee area minus direct permission from chair or vice chair most often granted for teachers in laser. Decisions will be made actions taken. We wish the machine clear and ease of use for all makers. Thanks Joshua If you have something in laser message me to make arrangments or discuss. {Reactions} 👏 (4) [6/21/2019 12:40 AM] stephenie. I'll come help [6/22/2019 5:38 AM] tomthm9900 I’m out town but go team_laser! [6/22/2019 3:06 PM] joshw0263 The otter pops are frozen and ready for consumption come have some fun help improving our space at meeting friends new and old. [6/27/2019 5:31 PM] limeytx Anyone know why zing is saying " Not Ready Yet!" When trying to hit go? [6/28/2019 3:45 PM] canibalcrab i am in need of 1/2 thick acrylic, anyone have a good source? [6/28/2019 3:46 PM] kenpurcell E Street Plastics [6/28/2019 3:46 PM] canibalcrab clear, could actually be polycarb too [6/28/2019 3:46 PM] kenpurcell in Royse City so can do will call pickup [6/28/2019 3:48 PM] canibalcrab man it looks like my going rate will be around $50 each for a 24x24 [6/28/2019 3:50 PM] kenpurcell I have a 12" x 12" x 1" clear if you can use it [6/28/2019 3:52 PM] canibalcrab i have to be able to mill out the center so im using 2x 1/2" to make 1" total [6/28/2019 3:56 PM] kenpurcell yeah even the discount doesn't really help [6/28/2019 4:00 PM] canibalcrab e street has the best price so far [6/28/2019 4:00 PM] canibalcrab allied wanted 160 for a 48x48 though. might do that for the just in case backup sheet [6/28/2019 11:41 PM] redbeardedpirate if you're interested in maintaining the lasers but don't know how, i'd be happy to hold a informal sessions on how to maintain the lasers. alignment, cleaning, tuning, etc. let me know if you're interested by tagging me or hit me up on talk. {Reactions} dms (2) [7/6/2019 1:53 PM] joshw0263 meeting and maintenance sunday 7/7 starts at 11 in lecture hall [7/6/2019 5:34 PM] gbeauw Can't make the meeting. I have a conference call with someone in CA from 10AM to 1PM. [7/7/2019 9:34 PM] joshw0263 @gbeauw hope your day went well know you are missed and appreciated hope to see you around again soon. [7/16/2019 11:30 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/600907080777596939/JPEG_20190716_232958.jpg?ex=67b952d4&is=67b80154&hm=9ababf65590682aebba4f919dd4704700500690d797da6926b4d815584d3d732& [7/16/2019 11:30 PM] canibalcrab @michaelb {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/600907134292590596/JPEG_20190716_233013.jpg?ex=67b952e1&is=67b80161&hm=0662c23422c54d454db42663d640e1bcca507676e6d94a23920d6c2bc486c9ec& {Reactions} 👍 [7/16/2019 11:40 PM] michaelb5250 @sixvolts_ The current motors are leadshine, it's the Chinese part number not the US one. They're NEMA 23 sized so we should be good with any off the self nema 23 stepper. Give me a few minutes for links [7/16/2019 11:42 PM] michaelb5250 https://www.geckodrive.com/g201x-digital-step-drive.html fairly common higher end stepper drive. It's not capable of the same microstepping but that's an adjustable setting in RDWorks. (Original drive is using 1/8th, but gecko does 1/5th or 1/10th) {Embed} https://www.geckodrive.com/g201x-digital-step-drive.html G201X Digital Step Drive The G201X is designed to run a large stepper motor efficiently and inexpensively.  This is made possible due to its CPLD design, which moves most formerly analog operations to firmware while still maintaining its large dual H-bridge power section. It’s oversized MOSFETs ca... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Gxe9WANmH5ROR1-hdIt3RnWNLdYrGObHyfx6rf4zzFg/https/www.geckodrive.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0f831c1845fc143d00d6d1ebc49f446a/g/2/g201x-1.jpg [7/16/2019 11:46 PM] michaelb5250 https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-23-stepper-motor/nema-23-bipolar-18deg-283nm-400-ozin-4a-226v-57x57x84mm-8-wires-23hs33-4008s.html that's a generic double length nema 23. It's an 8 wire version, which we don't need, but all of the 80ish mm length motors they had were 8 wire. {Embed} https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-23-stepper-motor/nema-23-bipolar-18deg-283nm-400-ozin-4a-226v-57x57x84mm-8-wires-23hs33-4008s.html Nema 23 Bipolar 1.8deg 2.83Nm (400 oz.in) 4A 2.26V 57x57x84mm 8 Wires Nema 23 Bipolar 1.8deg 2.83Nm (400 oz.in) 4A 2.26V 57x57x84mm 8 Wires - This nema 23 stepper motor with step angle 1. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/O84MqnBdtF4yN7mJCLgS9MhCdbGPt4VV12xn-gdM2bg/https/www.omc-stepperonline.com/image/cache/catalog/stepper-motor/23/nema-23-bipolar-18deg-283nm-400-ozin-4a-226v-57x57x84mm-8-wires-136-1000x1000.jpg [7/16/2019 11:47 PM] michaelb5250 No connector goodness yet, sorry [7/17/2019 12:03 AM] canibalcrab Why can't I print PDFs to the zing anymore? The new windows print queue is garbage [7/17/2019 12:48 AM] kevpat maybe because the adobe cc subscription license was updated to a new system monday night [7/17/2019 12:55 AM] canibalcrab The Adobe needs to be logged back in. [7/17/2019 12:55 AM] canibalcrab But my issue was caused by me trying to use Microsoft edge to read and print the PDF and not Adobe reader. [7/17/2019 12:56 AM] canibalcrab It's been a year since I needed to use the zing [7/17/2019 1:13 AM] hon1nbo the laser and creative adobes should work for another 29 days under the legacy license [7/17/2019 1:14 AM] hon1nbo we're going to setup federation with the g suite so we don't have to keep having an admin login when adobe gets logged out [7/17/2019 1:14 AM] hon1nbo but we need to test it well and make some little placards to put by the computers with friendly pictures showing how Okta works [7/17/2019 1:17 AM] canibalcrab It has an Andrewb email on it [7/25/2019 11:06 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/604162653513973791/IMG_20190725_224823.jpg?ex=67b94d51&is=67b7fbd1&hm=b2a115604c8ca474b57bc93c6b736e9674f3a74fcc554cf94b0efe2984a3d7cc& [7/25/2019 11:07 PM] michaelb5250 Donner test cut {Reactions} 👍 (4) dms [7/27/2019 5:23 PM] merissa4308 Donner is struggling cutting and the mirror on the gantry is getting really hot [7/27/2019 5:23 PM] merissa4308 Brandon and I could do an alignment, but I don't think I have the lockbox code anymore [7/27/2019 5:24 PM] merissa4308 @michaelb did you align just the other day? [7/27/2019 5:25 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/604801598564204544/IMG_20190727_172519.jpg?ex=67b8fd61&is=67b7abe1&hm=0d47ad746a4ad08a39a273540e3cc3c74e9a25e54c1fd2af3762c489dd9b02aa& [7/27/2019 5:26 PM] agr0090 Don't know code to open cabinet for the themral paper, tape is not good to use it melts [7/27/2019 5:30 PM] michaelb5250 Yes. I was afraid it would go out quickly [7/27/2019 5:30 PM] michaelb5250 I was a bit daft and forgot to tighten the laser mount screws 😅 [7/27/2019 5:32 PM] canibalcrab Don't put the paper on the mirror side. Put it on the flat hole cut out in front of it [7/27/2019 5:32 PM] canibalcrab Better for the mirrors {Reactions} 👍 [7/27/2019 5:34 PM] merissa4308 I marked it as out of service and will make a talk I&R post [7/27/2019 5:35 PM] merissa4308 We did like 8 passes trying to cut through 1/4 mdf and it barely etched the surface [7/27/2019 5:37 PM] michaelb5250 @merissa I PMd Brandon the code if y'all want to align it. Otherwise no worries we can get to it soon [7/27/2019 5:49 PM] merissa4308 Blitzen isn't performing any better 😞 [7/27/2019 7:06 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/604826852464263198/IMG_20190727_190540.jpg?ex=67b914e6&is=67b7c366&hm=9beedde80dc2c4ed79ae1deb68d8ae1acaf782a784514e9ca070f9651f1876c1& [7/27/2019 7:06 PM] agr0090 One pass after aligning tube and all mirrors [7/27/2019 7:06 PM] agr0090 Red dot no longer aligned at all but I'm done aligning for today {Reactions} 👍 (2) [7/27/2019 7:10 PM] merissa4308 Brandon alignment ftw!! [7/27/2019 7:21 PM] talkers Check the max power on Blitzen. One time someone had set it 30%. [7/27/2019 7:40 PM] merissa4308 Blitzen is definitely out of alignment... not as bad as Donner was, but the mirror bracket on gantry was getting hot [7/27/2019 7:42 PM] merissa4308 Donner is performing great now though other than red dot [7/27/2019 7:44 PM] merissa4308 I was going to mark Blitzen as out of service, but another member was going to cut some cardboard which it should do ok, so I asked him to put the OOS sign up after [7/29/2019 8:36 PM] sixvolts_ Blitzen is running again. Cut through 1/4 in ply just fine {Reactions} 👍 [7/29/2019 8:36 PM] sixvolts_ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/605574508811911174/image0.jpg?ex=67b92a35&is=67b7d8b5&hm=0a41642430777564a04dfea777dd180761e35b101e56c8697604de3351b989f4& [7/29/2019 8:53 PM] merissa4308 Awesome. Did it need alignment? [7/31/2019 7:11 AM] joshw0263 Meeting and work day sunday at 11 please join in making laser area better. [8/1/2019 12:44 AM] kevpat Can I upgrade the Thunder PC to Win 10 to get the new Adobe on there [8/1/2019 12:44 AM] kevpat P.S. Windows 8 sucks [8/1/2019 12:54 AM] michaelb5250 A few meetings back we voted to get new computers... I believe we've just been having a lot of issues with procurement. Of course, that doesn't help anyone out soon. [8/15/2019 8:44 PM] michaelb5250 @sixvolts_ it sounds like someone might've done a cut on big thunder tonight even though it had the big sign on it, do we do anything about that [8/15/2019 8:50 PM] michaelb5250 Looks like it's fine so no harm no foul [8/15/2019 10:45 PM] hon1nbo big thunder is loaded with material and l [8/15/2019 10:46 PM] hon1nbo and computer unlocked. can't tell if the sign on the back of the unit is a new laser sign or not. Are we still using the red and white signs? [8/16/2019 12:21 PM] joshw0263 has the chiller water level been checked it needs to be out of order until a trusted maintaner can sign of that is is good to use please. [8/17/2019 12:38 AM] michaelb5250 Oops, next time I'll leave it for a trusted maintainer [8/17/2019 8:00 AM] joshw0263 @michaelb thou art one them thanks for all you do. [8/17/2019 8:43 AM] stephenie. @michaelb and @JoshW thank you both for keeping our lasers operational. [8/17/2019 3:23 PM] kaze0013 It looks like Donner and Blitzen are both down. I didn't see reports of why [8/17/2019 6:12 PM] sixvolts_ Anyone know what the “thermal problem” with thunder is? [8/17/2019 6:38 PM] sixvolts_ No observable issues with big thunder. [8/17/2019 6:38 PM] sixvolts_ Replaced a smoked lens on donner [8/17/2019 6:39 PM] sixvolts_ All machines are back in service. {Reactions} 👍 [8/17/2019 6:43 PM] sixvolts_ Err, almost. Blitzen is acting up. Y-axis is not working well [8/17/2019 6:46 PM] kaze0013 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/team-laser8-13-19-big-thunder-tagged-out-of-order/60992 [8/17/2019 6:47 PM] kaze0013 I didn't see anything there about big thunder being fixed [8/17/2019 10:01 PM] talkers @sixvolts_ was that after the Communication error was resolved in Thunder 63? Unplugging USB didn't fix. Haley said rebooting was the solution. I was on the way out and didn't retry. [8/17/2019 10:02 PM] sixvolts_ I think the USB ports on that machine are wearing out. New computers should be in this coming week. [8/17/2019 10:03 PM] talkers Excellent news!! @sixvolts_ did you check alignment on Donner? After one member used it, the tube was hot. Not sure if because of the bad mirror. [8/17/2019 10:03 PM] sixvolts_ The lens was smoked up. I replaced it [8/17/2019 10:04 PM] talkers I saw that. Didn't see the replacement lenses or thermal paper to test. But I didn't have much time either to really look [8/17/2019 10:07 PM] sixvolts_ Yep, it’s there, but disorganized. Reorganizing the cabinets is certainly on the todo list [8/18/2019 12:50 PM] talkers Any one else coming to the laser teacher meeting? Tommy just joined David and me. @sixvolts_ [8/18/2019 12:51 PM] sixvolts_ Crap, got my days mixed up. Can someone call me and do speaker phone? [8/18/2019 12:52 PM] talkers I am writing up a report to infrastructure because the T-Mobile hotspot is down. [8/18/2019 12:52 PM] talkers David's calling you [8/25/2019 8:53 AM] sister_of_battle Did something change with Adobe software on PCs attached to the lasers? Illustrator is asking for a login, so cannot convert svg files to ai [8/25/2019 2:50 PM] hon1nbo @Kevin @sixvolts_ were the last machines moved to the new adobe licenses? [8/25/2019 2:50 PM] hon1nbo @BobTheMad#3423 if the were moved to the new license, which I suspect they were, you need to make an Adobe account. Free account, it's a "shared machine" license but it requires an active login [8/25/2019 2:51 PM] sixvolts_ Yes, they are on the new license [8/25/2019 2:51 PM] sixvolts_ You will need to make a free adobe account unfortunately [8/25/2019 4:21 PM] kaze0013 (Semi-related) What happens if we have our own paid account with Adobe? Do we need to create a separate one? [8/25/2019 4:23 PM] hon1nbo Unsure honestly, but I think the local install takes precedence. The new Adobe licensing requires a login. It can't hurt to make a new one, but I also don't see harm in trying yours. We disabled sync, and since we have a full suite I don't think it would be a problem [8/25/2019 4:34 PM] kaze0013 Cool. [8/25/2019 4:35 PM] kaze0013 Thanks for the info. [8/25/2019 7:32 PM] kevpat Hacker Space aka computer committee aka vcc aka software dev donated a Mac Pro today that hasn’t been setup yet. But besides that yeah {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/615342821733433365/image0.jpg?ex=67b91b29&is=67b7c9a9&hm=08efa458e7e55d17dd83a326007505864186fd39f568ce64eb221a433d4fcecb& [8/25/2019 8:39 PM] merissa4308 Laser voted several months ago to replace all the computers and has the funds to purchase so we have like machines across all the lasers. @sixvolts_ can you give a status update? [8/25/2019 8:40 PM] sixvolts_ I brought them to the space Saturday. The first one has been setup to replace Blitzen’s computer, but it needs to be joined to the domain by an Admin and have software installed. [8/25/2019 8:41 PM] sixvolts_ Once we have everything configured on that one, we will start rolling out the others. [8/25/2019 8:41 PM] merissa4308 Awesome news! [8/25/2019 8:41 PM] merissa4308 Don't you have admin as chair? [8/25/2019 8:42 PM] merissa4308 I thought we worked that out long ago [8/25/2019 8:42 PM] sixvolts_ I have admin on the machine, but not Domain admin for the whole space [8/25/2019 8:42 PM] merissa4308 Ahh gotcha [8/25/2019 8:42 PM] merissa4308 Coordinating with @yashsedai then I guess? [8/25/2019 8:44 PM] sixvolts_ Yep, that’s the next step. [8/25/2019 8:45 PM] merissa4308 Great! Thank you for your work improving things! [8/25/2019 8:46 PM] sixvolts_ No problem. The whole funding situation slowed things down a bit, but we have them now [8/25/2019 9:17 PM] yashsedai join to domain privilege granted [8/31/2019 1:28 PM] joshw0263 Remember because it's a holiday weekend we will have our meeting maintenance day Sunday September 8th [9/7/2019 4:30 PM] joshw0263 Meeting tomorrow at 11 then maintenance day [9/14/2019 2:34 PM] michaelb5250 Big thunder today {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/622515586513109003/JPEG_20190914_143432.jpg?ex=67b8d551&is=67b783d1&hm=e46e2dad4dbf2eee5136e1ee209da0fe8a3292042107f57a62c2881e1425a845& [9/14/2019 2:40 PM] canibalcrab Probably from those dirty fingers {Reactions} 🙄 [9/19/2019 11:44 PM] michaelacks6 anyone know the true status of Big Thunder? talk is unclear...is the USB plugged into the laser? [9/19/2019 11:51 PM] andrew5152 90% sure @pearce says it's plugged into the laser {Reactions} 👍 [9/19/2019 11:52 PM] michaelacks6 Thanks! [9/19/2019 11:55 PM] canibalcrab I fucking used my lockpicks to open the laser and plug it in [9/19/2019 11:56 PM] canibalcrab Because I guess I'm not allowed to maintain it? {Reactions} 😂 [9/20/2019 12:04 AM] michaelacks6 @pearce your efforts are much appreciated by those of us who have not yet learned to maintain it [9/20/2019 12:06 AM] canibalcrab The USB is not connected to a computer. The cable is connected internally and waiting for a PC that works with it [9/20/2019 12:06 AM] michaelacks6 especially since i fucked up my project tonight and have to re-do my job [9/20/2019 12:06 AM] canibalcrab That sucks [9/20/2019 12:06 AM] canibalcrab You didn't need the big one did you? [9/20/2019 12:06 AM] michaelacks6 right, i was there the other night and figured out that the donner computer works with it [9/20/2019 12:07 AM] michaelacks6 i do. 36 diameter [9/20/2019 12:07 AM] canibalcrab Yeah just use that one but make sure no one trips on the cable [9/20/2019 12:07 AM] michaelacks6 something on Big Thunder's computer is FUBAR...RDWorks needs a reinstall at the very least [9/20/2019 12:09 AM] michaelacks6 and if RDworks is really all it is, then it should be a quick fix by someone with admin/domain admin rights [9/20/2019 1:25 PM] michaelacks6 so now talk post with all 3 lasers down but zero details....anyone know anything? [9/20/2019 1:30 PM] merissa4308 @sixvolts_ @JoshW any info? [9/20/2019 1:30 PM] canibalcrab @michaelb can wizard some lasers too [9/20/2019 1:31 PM] michaelacks6 I need to come to a mx day so I can help maintain. Starting to use them more and more [9/20/2019 1:31 PM] sixvolts_ Kevin Patel might be able to help. I don’t have permissions to do Domain things [9/20/2019 1:31 PM] yashsedai you should [9/20/2019 1:31 PM] yashsedai you should be able to admin them and add them to the domain [9/20/2019 1:32 PM] sixvolts_ Ok, I’ll give it a go [9/20/2019 1:32 PM] yashsedai if you have any issues let me know [9/20/2019 1:32 PM] michaelacks6 Are the issues computer related? [9/20/2019 1:32 PM] michaelacks6 All computer related* [9/20/2019 1:33 PM] michaelb5250 If there's anything not computer related I'll be up tonight just let me know. [9/20/2019 1:46 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb i plan to be up there tonight. Ill reach out if i see any problems [9/20/2019 3:18 PM] redbeardedpirate What are the issues, I might have time today. [9/20/2019 3:19 PM] redbeardedpirate Or is half the issue that the issues are unknown lol [9/20/2019 7:15 PM] redbeardedpirate @sixvolts_ where's the laser keys [9/20/2019 7:15 PM] redbeardedpirate @JoshW [9/20/2019 7:15 PM] michaelb5250 I got it [9/20/2019 7:15 PM] sixvolts_ Not in the box? [9/20/2019 7:15 PM] sixvolts_ Ok [9/20/2019 7:16 PM] redbeardedpirate Nvm, got it [9/20/2019 8:03 PM] redbeardedpirate Lubed the screws. They're fine. It still stalls on the right side. I suspect the stepper driver or motor is bad [9/20/2019 8:03 PM] redbeardedpirate I propose swapping the stepper driver with the other smaller thunder [9/20/2019 8:03 PM] redbeardedpirate @sixvolts_ what do you think? [9/20/2019 8:04 PM] sixvolts_ There’s the whole spare laser in the new space [9/20/2019 8:05 PM] redbeardedpirate The old thunder? [9/20/2019 8:05 PM] sixvolts_ Yes [9/20/2019 8:05 PM] sixvolts_ It never sold [9/20/2019 8:05 PM] redbeardedpirate Okay, I might swap a driver with that too see if that's the issue. If it is, another should be ordered [9/20/2019 8:05 PM] redbeardedpirate Ok, I'll let you know how it goes [9/20/2019 8:06 PM] sixvolts_ 👍🏻awesome, thanks [9/20/2019 8:27 PM] michaelacks6 @lukeiamyourfather im about to head that way. Hoping to use big thunder. Also happy to help in any way i can [9/20/2019 10:57 PM] michaelacks6 I was able to determine the issue with big thunder's computer. Even after it was formatted and everything reinstalled, RDWorks still sent weird crap to the laser [9/20/2019 10:57 PM] michaelacks6 I moved the USB from the front of the computer to the back and files transfer much faster and without any random vectors [9/20/2019 10:58 PM] michaelacks6 The mouse is now plugged into the front USB port and is working fine [9/20/2019 10:58 PM] michaelacks6 I sent multiple files to the laser and they all worked. {Reactions} 🏆 (2) [9/20/2019 10:59 PM] michaelacks6 So this on top of the efforts by @lukeiamyourfather , we appear to have three functioning lasers {Reactions} dms (3) [9/20/2019 11:00 PM] merissa4308 Great work guys! [9/20/2019 11:20 PM] stephenie. I ❤ Team Laser! [9/21/2019 12:00 AM] kevpat How come the Indian IT guy never gets any love 😭 [9/21/2019 12:00 AM] kevpat I helps 2 [9/21/2019 12:11 AM] michaelb5250 Zing keeps bluescreening. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/624835110474219539/JPEG_20190921_001103.jpg?ex=67b95c8b&is=67b80b0b&hm=96a2cb65d915c189381b1f9641dd9de1c6340fe571a06bac8750da9a29fe378d& [9/21/2019 12:18 AM] canibalcrab Tell it to stop {Reactions} 👍 [9/21/2019 12:24 AM] redbeardedpirate @Kevin thanks for reinstalling windows on the laser machine 👍 {Reactions} 😊 [9/21/2019 12:27 AM] kevpat Just use Intel instead of AMD and the Zing will be fine [9/21/2019 2:45 PM] hardsuit Been using AMD for over 20 years with no issues [9/22/2019 2:02 AM] kevpat Well this one doesn’t like the and power chipset power management driver {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/625225317941903411/image0.png?ex=67b97673&is=67b824f3&hm=d7036f1ae5f81e687751a35705fb560d52ff4cab1591b504f5d9211021175bbd& [9/22/2019 5:46 AM] hon1nbo Probably just has the wrong driver installed [9/26/2019 9:19 PM] michaelb5250 We should find a way to disable the switch user option... There's 8 people logged into blitzen already [9/26/2019 10:34 PM] andrew5152 https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-fast-user-switching-feature-windows-10 {Embed} https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-fast-user-switching-feature-windows-10 Disabling Fast User Switching on Windows 10 You can remove the option of quickly switching user accounts on Windows 10. Here's why you might want to, and how to do it. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lsrPh86iY4sQz-_e5evgHuZBcL3uMUTdy_6egT2LvqU/%3Fitok%3DLHexulOd/https/www.windowscentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/styles/large/public/field/image/2017/05/disable-fast-user-switching-windows-10.jpg [10/6/2019 10:35 AM] joshw0263 Meeting and maintenance day today we will also be taking nominations for new chair. [10/6/2019 10:35 AM] joshw0263 See you at 11 [10/7/2019 6:30 PM] joshw0263 Laser had a great meeting and maintenance day however we are still looking for a new chair if you have the time and love lasers and volunteers you are a great candidate meeting october 19th 2pm in interactive room. [10/9/2019 4:37 PM] agr0090 That is suspicious, got alert that my email was identified in dark web three days after I signed into that email account on a laser computer (my email is behind 2fa so I'm not too concerned) [10/9/2019 4:40 PM] canibalcrab @yashsedai [10/9/2019 4:41 PM] aceat64 Might be worth scanning the systems for malware, it's not an unprecedented occurrence on the PCs at the space [10/9/2019 4:42 PM] agr0090 Of course could be from random dump from some service and not related, but that is the only non personal machine I have signed into my email in months. Was on big thunder PC [10/10/2019 9:50 AM] hon1nbo breaches don't usually happen in that short of a span from malware to for sale; they're usually aggregated over months first [10/11/2019 1:32 PM] michaelb5250 Scott posted a 5'x10' laser up on talk, if only we had already moved and had the space, right? [10/11/2019 1:40 PM] agr0090 Would use case be giant foam signs? [10/11/2019 1:41 PM] agr0090 Not sure when you would use that over CNC router [10/11/2019 2:31 PM] michaelb5250 Likely quicker and easier to set up than the router, it'd be useful for cutting tons of small items (like from a 4x8 sheet), or jobs even larger than big thunder is capable of. As an example, I have organizational trays I sometimes cut out of the 1/8" hardboard, it'd be way easier to throw a whole sheet on and cut out a dozen at once, than cutting up a sheet on the table saw and running a dozen small jobs. [10/11/2019 3:57 PM] nullinterface the ability to cut from a full sheet would be awesome [10/15/2019 1:17 PM] michaelacks6 Hey laser team. I was at the space last night and noticed an out of order sign on Donner. Didn't see anything notes here or on talk. But wanted to call it out in the event that it's unknown [10/19/2019 5:09 AM] joshw0263 Today is the day a new leader will be elected please come promptly at 2pm it will not be a long meeting. Thanks Joshua [10/20/2019 12:39 PM] agr0090 @michaelb What are your laser plans? Need any help? [10/20/2019 12:54 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure yet, but I think the first thing will be some more organization in the area, we've got all those cabinets but they're pretty full at the moment. [10/20/2019 12:56 PM] michaelb5250 Maybe look into the ventilation and see if there's anything we can do with what we've got to hold us over, I've toyed with adding a vent to draw air from above the table and maybe help keep the optics cleaner [10/20/2019 12:58 PM] agr0090 As in redirecting airflow inside laser or increasing exhaust cfm? [10/20/2019 1:00 PM] agr0090 An unpopular idea would be to remove all ability to store laser scraps and direct people to put it in dumpster only, but seems unlikely members would follow through [10/20/2019 1:00 PM] michaelb5250 Hopefully we can get a bit more CFM but that depends on the layout and blowers. I was going to talk to Charles a bit since he's done that professionally. [10/20/2019 1:01 PM] michaelb5250 But yeah I'd be willing to sacrifice some airflow from the bottom port if we can get rid of the smoke more efficiently [10/20/2019 1:01 PM] agr0090 Auto blast gates on the two lasers that share an exhaust could help if they aren't used at same time [10/20/2019 1:01 PM] michaelb5250 Luckily all of the scrap storage should be in the annex table so it doesn't get in the way of the main laser area [10/20/2019 1:02 PM] agr0090 Also need to do something with old big thunder that's in watehouse [10/20/2019 1:04 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah not sure what to do with that for the moment. Probably pitch some options at the next committee meeting [10/20/2019 1:07 PM] agr0090 Sell it, not sure what the required hoops to jump through are, DMS almost never sells equipment [10/20/2019 1:08 PM] agr0090 Giving to another 501c3 would be easiest, that's how we got rid of the lasersaur we built [10/20/2019 1:45 PM] canibalcrab I would like to move the freebie shelf back to the location where the table currently is. Thoughts on that if we can get a scrap area organized? [10/20/2019 1:58 PM] agr0090 Could put some 2 foot deep vertical scrap storage as part of free shelf, free shelf wouldn't be very wide [10/20/2019 2:05 PM] agr0090 https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-5415/Industrial-Steel-Shelving/Bulk-Storage-Rack-Wire-Decking-48-x-36-x-72 {Embed} https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-5415/Industrial-Steel-Shelving/Bulk-Storage-Rack-Wire-Decking-48-x-36-x-72 Bulk Storage Rack - Wire Decking, 48 x 36 x 72" H-5415 - Uline Store your heaviest, extra-wide or bulky items. Up to 3,000 lbs. per shelf. Boltless assembly . Shelves snap into place and adjust at 2" increments. Galvanized steel mesh. 2 x 4" openings prevent dust and dirt buildup, maximize fire sprinkler efficiency. Welded steel upright... [10/20/2019 2:11 PM] hon1nbo That table is also used for prepwork though, not just scrap.. ideally we'd start to see a limit on good scrap for the bottom shelves rather than a piece that has a circle cut out edge to edge :P [10/20/2019 2:14 PM] michaelb5250 A few different groups have asked for the space. We'll bring up the annex table at the next committee meeting, but my guess is that it'll stay with laser for the foreseeable future. [10/20/2019 2:28 PM] canibalcrab Never should have given up the space {Reactions} ❤ [10/20/2019 2:30 PM] agr0090 Blame Strickland [10/22/2019 12:25 PM] michaelb5250 Does anyone have suggestions for laser committee meeting times? [10/22/2019 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 I don't mind Sunday afternoons but figured this would be a good time to change it if people want. [10/22/2019 12:31 PM] agr0090 Can it be named something besides a 'meeting' [10/22/2019 12:43 PM] michaelb5250 Uhhhh, gathering of people to talk about things related to the the laser committee? [10/22/2019 12:44 PM] michaelb5250 Theres typically a separate 'workday' event on the calendar immediately after that covers the maintainence [10/24/2019 1:57 PM] agr0090 All Laser transactions from qbo for 2019 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/637001865988407337/DallasMakerspace_TransactionDetailbyAccount.xlsx?ex=67b97577&is=67b823f7&hm=cf3aaf860fa857184cfd478dde51a992edbb1d5b1d20a71503bf56283b9cb3ea& [10/24/2019 1:58 PM] agr0090 According to QBO profit and loss by class for all time, laser has $66,002.43, but no idea if that is what finance would say laser currently has [10/24/2019 2:00 PM] agr0090 So far in 2019, laser brought in 23,691.34 from usage fees and ~5,000 from honorarium [10/24/2019 2:03 PM] agr0090 So averaging about $80 per day, or 6.67 hours of paid laser on time across all the lasers [10/24/2019 2:18 PM] michaelb5250 Hey that's what I trying to get quickbooks access for 😂 [10/24/2019 2:21 PM] michaelb5250 Assuming we pay the standard 10c+2.6% per square transaction, that's $24323.41+(# payments/10) or a guess of $24728.79 in laser usage fees (avg of 30min/job) [10/24/2019 2:21 PM] michaelb5250 Means we've run the lasers for just over 2000 hours this year [10/24/2019 2:33 PM] agr0090 Should you assume something like only 80% of people pay? or lower? [10/24/2019 2:49 PM] michaelb5250 I guess you're not wrong... I might see if the controllers have a counter for tube on hours. Can track next month's usage and see how it matches revenue. [10/24/2019 2:51 PM] agr0090 I would be impressed if they did, I dont recall ever seeing something like that in the manuals [10/24/2019 3:03 PM] canibalcrab The software might [10/24/2019 3:03 PM] canibalcrab It has data on sent files [10/24/2019 5:36 PM] hon1nbo Going forward could put a current sensor on the laser output, and add an industrial hour counter to the unit. [10/24/2019 5:38 PM] canibalcrab The lasersaur used to have a setup like that [10/24/2019 5:38 PM] canibalcrab It worked until the display died on it [10/24/2019 5:43 PM] michaelb5250 There's a lot of options if we want to DIY something, Andrew's suggestion was beaglebone blacks for each laser that would communicate with the Pi server we have, could run badge interlocks and do analytics [10/24/2019 5:45 PM] michaelb5250 And I think I found that setup the other night... laser cut acrylic enclosure with a serial LCD on it and an arcade button. It really gives off that makerspace vibe {Reactions} dms [10/24/2019 6:15 PM] hon1nbo the infrastrucutre RFID system is capable of doing current sensing. The current limiting factor is getting people to friggin document the thing and start producing the units outside of the few that are already built [10/24/2019 6:29 PM] michaelb5250 Lol, 'current limiting' factor. If we can find some interested software people in sure some sort of interlock can get worked out. [10/24/2019 6:30 PM] michaelb5250 I'm comfortable with the hardware but there's a whole web/PHP side of the stack that's out of my depth. [10/24/2019 6:52 PM] hon1nbo so the system works already [10/24/2019 6:52 PM] hon1nbo we would just have to make some little graphs for that data [10/24/2019 6:52 PM] hon1nbo problem is components were made by different people [10/24/2019 6:53 PM] hon1nbo documentation is sparse and scattered [10/24/2019 6:53 PM] hon1nbo that all needs to be fixed and some things tuned up for deployment. [10/24/2019 6:54 PM] hon1nbo next time I'm there I'll show you one of the units. They're pretty nice [10/25/2019 1:45 PM] kinetiqj The Ruida controllers do track time and I know RDWorks can read it. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/637361229534593044/photo5154508823547979809.jpg?ex=67b972a6&is=67b82126&hm=1ae7eaf375af41f077a52f61e0d5ccb0324b692910978c525dd05b7355e80b86& {Reactions} 👌 (3) [10/25/2019 2:39 PM] michaelb5250 Heck yes. I'll pull all the times on Nov 1st and we can track usage through the preset making season [10/27/2019 3:21 PM] pinewoodnut Run some tests before you trust the numbers. I've seen lots of different strange things there before [10/28/2019 7:39 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/638537468747972698/IMG_20191028_193630.jpg?ex=67b91cdc&is=67b7cb5c&hm=716ad38de8130d134fc5eae0af2f04499a624e9d1ee1262e6425f6e8096dd9cf& [10/28/2019 7:40 PM] michaelb5250 Exhaust on donner. [10/28/2019 7:42 PM] yashsedai eww [10/28/2019 7:44 PM] agr0090 Did you avoid inhaling while opening? [10/28/2019 7:57 PM] michaelb5250 I probably should've just left the blower on while removing it. Sucked most of it off and knocked the rest in. Seems to be running ok now [10/28/2019 7:59 PM] merissa4308 Wooooow 😳 [10/28/2019 8:47 PM] michaelb5250 Gonna add filtration to the list of possible upgrades. [10/28/2019 8:55 PM] agr0090 Don't recall if that blower was 100 or 200, just replace them every year [10/28/2019 8:57 PM] michaelb5250 I still don't think those blowers ever flowed enough air to properly evacuate the smoke, the blower I'd like is more than 10x that price [10/28/2019 8:57 PM] yashsedai or... we could buy an actual quality blower tie the whole system together and do it right once with filtration {Reactions} 👍 (2) [10/28/2019 8:58 PM] yashsedai i get that its cheap to buy them [10/28/2019 8:58 PM] yashsedai but its not impossible to get that stuff done up right so it is maintainable [10/28/2019 8:59 PM] agr0090 It's the 30 foot vertical that may be impacting that specific blower, it's specs alone should be enough air [10/28/2019 9:00 PM] michaelb5250 I agree, the CFM rating at ambient pressure is more than enough, but to get that same CFM at 6" water column, which is what American laser manufacturers spec for their exhaust, takes about a 5hp motor. [10/28/2019 9:00 PM] yashsedai yep [10/28/2019 9:00 PM] agr0090 Would be closer to 100x more for a professional level exhaust system [10/28/2019 9:00 PM] yashsedai what is the cfm rating needed for that machine at ambient? [10/28/2019 9:01 PM] michaelb5250 Well, first thing first is some dampers on big thunder and blitzen. [10/28/2019 9:01 PM] michaelb5250 That's cheap and easy. Then we can build up from there [10/28/2019 9:01 PM] yashsedai Sounds like you want the system i'm putting together for expansion [10/28/2019 9:02 PM] yashsedai dry contact indicating laser is on, dampers open and blower runs for specificed time post laser, variable speed blower, speed changes on amount of lasers in use [10/28/2019 9:02 PM] michaelb5250 Thunder doesn't give a specific CFM rating, I've been using ratings from ULS to estimate what we want. Something in the 1000-1500 CFM range is my guess for big thunder. [10/28/2019 9:02 PM] yashsedai if not dry contact then CT [10/28/2019 9:03 PM] michaelb5250 The system we've got now does most of that. It's not variable speed but it does turn on with lasers and have an off delay. The machines all have blower contacts built in that provide 208v signals. [10/28/2019 9:05 PM] yashsedai well, then adding some relays for a damper would be trivial [10/28/2019 9:06 PM] yashsedai which would be good as long as you upsized the fan [10/28/2019 9:07 PM] michaelb5250 But considering that $10k is still within reason for a laser purchase, and anything that gets speced now will certainly be intended to go in the new space whenever we move, I dont think it's too outlandish. But certainly plan to prove that more airflow is the solution with donner first. [10/30/2019 8:02 AM] michaelb5250 New lenses should get to the space today. Unless something changed big thunder needs one. {Reactions} 👍 (3) [10/31/2019 3:37 PM] talkers Great news about the lenses! [10/31/2019 3:37 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/639563669390229555/IMG_20191031_153546.jpg?ex=67b8e415&is=67b79295&hm=8504484587565926fbcd459ee8931a3581759cf35f501639b8e9718324fc4068& {Reactions} 😮 [10/31/2019 3:37 PM] talkers Thunder's is cracked. [10/31/2019 3:38 PM] talkers I checked out Ellen Lovings to clean mirrors and lenses (she is the one that bought our old laser) [10/31/2019 3:43 PM] michaelb5250 Thunder's been cracked for a while, but it was cutting alright we just rolled with it. Not the best I know, but we were making do with what we had. [10/31/2019 3:43 PM] michaelb5250 If it's finally having issues, let's shut it down until we find the lenses. [10/31/2019 3:45 PM] michaelb5250 The new lenses should be in the building, they were delivered at noon yesterday. [10/31/2019 3:45 PM] michaelb5250 They're from cloudray in nanjing china, have my name on them [10/31/2019 4:00 PM] talkers @michaelb new lenses are too small [10/31/2019 4:01 PM] talkers 19mm vs 20? [10/31/2019 4:01 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/639569670650855425/IMG_20191031_155931.jpg?ex=67b8e9ac&is=67b7982c&hm=1570ee27e757d159be6b5366884c31035a384c2a7f86953ff6a5976567afdfd7& [10/31/2019 4:01 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/639569701630115850/IMG_20191031_155956.jpg?ex=67b8e9b3&is=67b79833&hm=92803574eed9a757c1615279d117b48ad510f8c36d016cf0b226ec4d40e4602a& [10/31/2019 4:02 PM] michaelb5250 Ahhhh frack. [10/31/2019 4:02 PM] michaelb5250 Thought I double checked that. [10/31/2019 4:02 PM] kenpurcell laser cut a 1mm shim 😉 [10/31/2019 4:02 PM] kenpurcell sorry 0.5mm shim [10/31/2019 4:02 PM] michaelb5250 Actually yeah assuming they don't fall through the lens tube let's find a way to shim it. [10/31/2019 4:03 PM] michaelb5250 Think that will work? [10/31/2019 4:03 PM] talkers We can print spacers with the flex resin. I'll model and print tomorrow. [10/31/2019 4:04 PM] talkers I'll put the old lens back in. I can come back and test tomorrow [10/31/2019 4:05 PM] michaelb5250 That sounds perfect. thanks [10/31/2019 4:05 PM] michaelb5250 Lens Diameter: 20mm [10/31/2019 4:05 PM] michaelb5250 there now I can go search for it next time 😂 [10/31/2019 4:54 PM] agr0090 What is lead time of ordering more 20mm? Have you already placed order? [10/31/2019 4:55 PM] canibalcrab Whatever you shim with needs to be heat tolerant [10/31/2019 4:55 PM] canibalcrab You could probably get machine shop to lathe a ring out with a little step so it sits nice and flat [10/31/2019 4:55 PM] michaelb5250 The order's about a week to get in but I doubt they can be returned so it'd be best if we can use them. [10/31/2019 4:56 PM] canibalcrab I'd ask for the return though [10/31/2019 4:57 PM] michaelb5250 Honestly I'm not sure they need a shim? The bottom of the lens is flat, and pressed against the nut that secures it. So the lens is flat, but not necessarily centered, I don't think centering it is going to be a problem. [10/31/2019 4:57 PM] canibalcrab We already have a lot of alignment issues [10/31/2019 4:57 PM] canibalcrab I don't think adding more to that mix will help [10/31/2019 4:58 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, it's not like the beam hits the center of the lens anyways, so what difference does it make? [10/31/2019 4:58 PM] stephenie. How much did the shipment cost? [10/31/2019 4:58 PM] michaelb5250 $300 even, shipping included [10/31/2019 5:00 PM] canibalcrab I believe it will be a difference. And if you add the chronic misalignment they will be worse [10/31/2019 5:00 PM] agr0090 I vote for use as interim while ordering 20mm ones now, then make a $300 necklace [10/31/2019 5:00 PM] stephenie. Order a new batch immediately [10/31/2019 5:01 PM] canibalcrab It should be pretty easy to mill out a ring to use them in the interim [10/31/2019 5:01 PM] canibalcrab @michaelb send me the measurements you need and I'll see if James can make one before I go to the shop [10/31/2019 5:04 PM] michaelb5250 Well it'd be a snug fit around a 19.05mm lens and drop into a spot designed for a 20mm lens. So a ring 19.15mm ID and 20mm OD, 2mm thick? Sounds very crushable [10/31/2019 5:06 PM] stephenie. @michaelb send me the (correct link) to the cloudray lens. I'll update the wiki. The last link is for the Amazon source. [10/31/2019 5:07 PM] stephenie. https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Category:Laser#Consumables {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Category:Laser Category:Laser [10/31/2019 5:08 PM] stephenie. Amazon has one day shipping. Get one lens that fits by tomorrow. [10/31/2019 5:08 PM] stephenie. Then wait on the cheaper replacements. [10/31/2019 5:08 PM] stephenie. Laser users have lived through down machines before. [10/31/2019 5:09 PM] stephenie. Just an option. [10/31/2019 5:10 PM] michaelb5250 https://www.cloudraylaser.com/collections/co2-focusing-lens-1/products/cloudray-ii-vi-znse-focus-lens-dia-19-05mm-fl-50-8-63-5mm-2-2-5?variant=44518852488 I think the variant tag should open it up right. 20mm Dia 50.8mm focal length {Embed} https://www.cloudraylaser.com/collections/co2-focusing-lens-1/products/cloudray-ii-vi-znse-focus-lens-dia-19-05mm-fl-50-8-63-5mm-2-2-5?variant=44518852488 HQ ZnSe CO2 Focus Lens Dia 19.05/20mm FL 50.8-101.6mm Meniscus lenses are designed to minimize spherical aberration producing a minimum focal spot size for incoming collimated light. II-VI Infrared is the world leader in laser optics, delivering an unbeatable combination of innovation, quality, and expertise. II-VI Infrared also... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zGsL9vw7FqVIkqnoTl6NehtrsZc33rOrz4z_HxiQ-aE/%3Fv%3D1565853271/https/cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2222/7859/products/II-VI_CO2_Focusing_Lens_grande.jpg [10/31/2019 5:11 PM] stephenie. It doesn't. [10/31/2019 5:11 PM] stephenie. Defaults to another size. Alas. [10/31/2019 5:11 PM] michaelb5250 I'll be at the space this evening to take a look [10/31/2019 5:11 PM] stephenie. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DP2HFU2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 [10/31/2019 5:12 PM] stephenie. Amazon option for a stop gap [10/31/2019 5:13 PM] stephenie. Am I reading that correctly? There's only a 90-cent difference between Cloudray and Amazon? [10/31/2019 5:14 PM] stephenie. @michaelb would you confirm? [10/31/2019 5:17 PM] michaelb5250 We ordered plano/convex the Amazon link is concave/convex. That's not to say we can't find the same lenses on amazon [10/31/2019 5:19 PM] michaelb5250 Sorry, looks like the common term is a meniscus focus vs a plano/convex [10/31/2019 5:21 PM] stephenie. We ordered successfully from the Amazon link plano/convex. The style is not mentioned in the description. [10/31/2019 5:22 PM] stephenie. But commenters are saying they are plano/convex. [10/31/2019 5:22 PM] canibalcrab Worth the $30 if we are just going to wait for the new order [10/31/2019 5:24 PM] stephenie. Hmm...there is a chart of the specs in the sidebar. Has the 50.8 as meniscus [10/31/2019 5:25 PM] stephenie. Damn the inconsistencies. [10/31/2019 5:25 PM] stephenie. I know the lenses we ordered in 2018 were correct [10/31/2019 5:25 PM] michaelb5250 Huh, the image showed a meniscus lens. It'd be interesting to try the meniscus. In theory it should cut better, but they're typically more expensive. [10/31/2019 5:25 PM] stephenie. $30 gamble [10/31/2019 5:26 PM] stephenie. Which is less than 3 hrs of laser fees. [10/31/2019 5:26 PM] michaelb5250 But either way, I still think we can make what we have work, so I doubt we'll be down a machine and waiting on lenses. [10/31/2019 5:32 PM] michaelb5250 We have 30 days to return them, by the way. Must remain unopened so we'll just have the one to play with. Return shipping isn't cheap (like 15-25% the cost of the lenses), so that's another good motivator to make them work. [10/31/2019 5:33 PM] stephenie. *Laser is not hurting for money.* [10/31/2019 5:34 PM] stephenie. Time though, can be in short supply. [10/31/2019 5:34 PM] canibalcrab ^ [10/31/2019 5:40 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/639594451991265350/unknown.png?ex=67b900c0&is=67b7af40&hm=1b7c2fee8694d212744733c3ee430c60aee9cd8d151fb2505d8853f9bebcc953& [10/31/2019 5:40 PM] stephenie. Updated. [10/31/2019 5:41 PM] stephenie. @michaelb I created this list on the wiki back in the day. So future chairs could order consumables quickly. [10/31/2019 5:42 PM] stephenie. Looking forward to the day we have ample storage for keeping consumables on hand. [10/31/2019 6:45 PM] kenpurcell Yea team laser! [10/31/2019 7:04 PM] talkers @pearce that's a good point on heat resistance. Cloud Ray sells silicon washers for the lenses. I ordered some before (just don't like the tactile feel of glass on metal). Silicone heat resistance is 572' F. The form labs flex softens at 456'F. Not certain what than means. Minor reference to cracking after that. I can check with their tech support tomorrow. [10/31/2019 7:05 PM] canibalcrab I've seen some melted washers on the lenses [10/31/2019 7:05 PM] canibalcrab 465 should be okay honestly {Reactions} ✌ [10/31/2019 7:06 PM] talkers The 20mm are still a surprisingly loose fit. But they self center unlike the 19mm based on 60 secs of testing. Washers in general should be used. [10/31/2019 7:09 PM] canibalcrab Anything like rastering would shake the crap out of the lenses you'll need some sort of compression [10/31/2019 7:58 PM] michaelb5250 Big thunder has a new lens. [10/31/2019 7:59 PM] michaelb5250 I'm running the old one through the ultrasonic just to see if it'll clean it off. It'd be cool to have a lens cleaning station where anyone can just drop a lens tube after heavy use and clean it up [10/31/2019 8:04 PM] canibalcrab I think your venting solution will help with that [11/2/2019 1:44 PM] doug.emes Running 15 minutes behind [11/2/2019 9:48 PM] doug.emes Great job today Michael and kris wong [11/2/2019 10:36 PM] michaelb5250 Thanks to Judy, Doug, Kris, Holly, Brad, Angela, Allen, and anyone I might have missed for helping out today! We really thoroughly cleaned all 4 machines and checked alignment, lenses, and bed leveling. Not only that but the turnout was so great we did it all in 3 hours! [11/2/2019 10:37 PM] michaelb5250 We'll have the committee meeting on a Saturday near the end of November, I'll put it on the calendar next week. {Reactions} ✌ (3) [11/13/2019 12:45 PM] michaelb5250 Anyone know offhand dimensions of the laser area? [11/13/2019 1:58 PM] merissa4308 @AGr maybe? [11/13/2019 2:00 PM] agr0090 thought you were asking dimension of laser bed, I can find a map [11/13/2019 2:01 PM] agr0090 roughly 10' x 30' [11/13/2019 2:06 PM] agr0090 https://cad.onshape.com/documents/31935cdcea7a10241f7d548e/w/935d50cad79bffe7582499db/e/291855a6fd9d76d6b16a0926 {Embed} https://cad.onshape.com/documents/31935cdcea7a10241f7d548e/w/935d50cad79bffe7582499db/e/291855a6fd9d76d6b16a0926 Onshape Login / Signin to Onshape - the modern CAD system used by thousands of companies worldwide. [11/13/2019 2:07 PM] merissa4308 I assumed committee space area, but I might be wrong [11/13/2019 2:42 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, committee space. Thanks! [11/16/2019 12:21 PM] michaelb5250 CO2 tank was changed {Reactions} dms (2) [11/16/2019 12:22 PM] talkers Good. Thank you [11/16/2019 1:19 PM] michaelb5250 @john a gorman any materials you need for laser classes? That former member is coming with their donation at 2. [11/16/2019 1:21 PM] michaelb5250 Planning on leaving anything we don't want out for members to use. I think Kevin is going to try and grab up clear acrylic too (hopefully not all of it...). [11/16/2019 4:24 PM] michaelb5250 Nevermind, I didn't see them show up. Oh well [11/17/2019 4:46 PM] kevpat Someone grabbed all of the acrylic before I even got to go through it today. Except one mirrored piece [11/17/2019 4:47 PM] michaelb5250 I'm glad members are able to use it, they might not have the funding the committees do to buy the materials they need. [11/17/2019 4:49 PM] talkers @michaelb generally I use 3mm ply for the thunders. The same +dual layer on the Zing. [11/17/2019 5:02 PM] michaelb5250 Awesome, if you need any just let me know. [11/17/2019 8:01 PM] michaelb5250 @Kevin the two 1/4" sheets from that donation are still on the shelf. Aside from the large piece of mirrored acrylic it's pretty much all there. [11/23/2019 11:56 AM] stephenie. @michaelb i cleaned Donner's exterior and its desk. One last thing for Team Laser today. {Reactions} dms [11/23/2019 11:57 AM] michaelb5250 Thanks! If you're still around, could I trouble you for a note saying maintenance at 3? If not I'll be up soon [11/23/2019 12:18 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/647863663843213332/JPEG_20191123_121833.jpg?ex=67b96c4e&is=67b81ace&hm=1ed6f7153c3cd15791c4d005d9e14f01a82bc31a1baa6068400a9d5a2216ff2f& [11/23/2019 12:19 PM] stephenie. Cleaned the white board too [11/23/2019 12:19 PM] michaelb5250 You the best! [11/23/2019 12:19 PM] stephenie. No, you the best! [11/23/2019 12:20 PM] stephenie. Would you add dry erase markers to the consumables shopping list? [11/23/2019 12:20 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/647864172993839104/JPEG_20191123_122020.jpg?ex=67b96cc7&is=67b81b47&hm=90a62e18f1b725523b9477152deb96c503692ddb95d939c31d2403092360b61f& [11/23/2019 12:21 PM] michaelb5250 Dry erase, got it! [11/23/2019 12:21 PM] michaelb5250 And I should reprint the signs for next time... [11/23/2019 12:21 PM] stephenie. These were what I put out when I arrived in maintenance day back in the day [11/23/2019 12:23 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/647864748762857482/JPEG_20191123_122259.jpg?ex=67b96d50&is=67b81bd0&hm=1688c676651247e1949a7fa7a6597e3c98aa89a4734d50573125b816b4352608& [11/23/2019 12:23 PM] stephenie. Works in a pinch {Reactions} 👌 [11/23/2019 12:24 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/647865006477803522/JPEG_20191123_122343.jpg?ex=67b96d8e&is=67b81c0e&hm=2656ea9cd4aec151c2e819040bff059477417a15de524c12c48c366a76fe195f& [11/23/2019 12:24 PM] stephenie. The safety orange pops when you walk in the door. [11/25/2019 12:40 PM] michaelb5250 Quick brainstorm here... What do y'all think are the most challenging materials that get cut/engraved on the lasers? [11/25/2019 12:41 PM] michaelb5250 I'm thinking paper, 1/4-3/8" MDF, 1/2" Acrylic, fabric [11/25/2019 12:44 PM] canibalcrab Wood with burls, melty plastic [11/25/2019 12:45 PM] canibalcrab Just make sure the fabric isn't pvc vinyl or fake leather [11/25/2019 12:46 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah thinking polyester for the extra possibility of melting. [11/25/2019 12:47 PM] michaelb5250 Burl is one I didn't think of [11/25/2019 12:50 PM] canibalcrab Burls are the worst. They make cutting plywood a pain too. Keep an eye out for "footballs" when selecting plywood [11/25/2019 12:51 PM] michaelb5250 Do you mean knots? Like where a branch was growing out of the trunk? [11/25/2019 12:52 PM] michaelb5250 I guess they're similar. I've only ever seen Burl sold as a chunk, and quite expensive. [11/25/2019 12:55 PM] canibalcrab I just meant burls for when people are trying to cut/raster projects from the woodshop [11/25/2019 12:56 PM] canibalcrab Plywood has knots or repair footballs that can make it really hard to cut through [11/25/2019 12:56 PM] canibalcrab I'll post a pic of one [11/25/2019 12:57 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, I might see if I can find some verneer with crazy grain. Going to play with a trotec this week and want to challenge it [11/25/2019 1:44 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-heads-available/65427 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-heads-available/65427 Laser heads available Does DMS have both the standard and 4" long laser heads for the Thunder Lasers? The etch and cut materials settings are defined for both of these laser heads (tubes). I have only needed to cut up to 1/4" plywood but am now wanting to experiment with thicker pieces (1/2" to 3/... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [11/25/2019 1:44 PM] nullinterface it's been a while since I've taken laser basics [11/25/2019 1:45 PM] nullinterface but I do recall that one sets depth and takes your chances with the ability to cut the material regardless of thickness [11/25/2019 1:45 PM] nullinterface is this person speaking to an entirely different lens optimized for cutting thicker materials? [11/25/2019 1:47 PM] canibalcrab The 4" lens tube takes the focus and makes it longer. It's not going to get through 3/4 ply better. It's more for soft stuff like foam. [11/25/2019 1:47 PM] canibalcrab We also don't have lenses for it that I know of. Some fuck decided to swap them between the different tubes and put them upside down and broke them [11/25/2019 1:48 PM] canibalcrab 4" just refers to the distance from lens to work surface. Not cutting thickness [11/25/2019 1:53 PM] michaelb5250 It does give you a longer length inside the 'focus band' which helps cutting thicker materials. I just don't think we have the power to cut 3/4" plywood no matter the lens. [11/25/2019 1:53 PM] michaelb5250 Plus, multicam... [11/25/2019 1:54 PM] apparently_weird When all you have is a hammer...... maybe not checked out on multi cam? [11/25/2019 1:56 PM] michaelb5250 I mean, strictly from wear and tear on tools, it's better he gets checked out on the multicam than trying to use the laser for a multicam job. [11/25/2019 1:58 PM] apparently_weird I don’t disagree, just saying he might be trying to use the best tool he has access to currently. Doesn’t make it the best tool overall. [11/25/2019 2:04 PM] nullinterface Eh, I've seen 3/4" plywood cut on the thunder. It was ***rather*** ugly due to the number of passes. [11/25/2019 2:04 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, I guess I'm considering anything more than 1 pass a 'wont cut' [11/25/2019 2:05 PM] michaelb5250 But yeah with sufficient passes I guess you could get through [11/25/2019 2:05 PM] nullinterface I personally lost motivation on the multicam. the workflow was agonizing from the autocad derived software I use. [11/25/2019 2:05 PM] nullinterface not that I found RDWorks to be any more amenable to DXFs [11/25/2019 2:08 PM] michaelb5250 God RDWorks and DXFs are like the worst part of using those lasers for me [11/25/2019 2:08 PM] nullinterface doesn't help that there are $MaxInt flavors of DXF [11/25/2019 2:09 PM] nullinterface every time I've tried SVG I get some sort of cubist abstract art [11/25/2019 2:09 PM] michaelb5250 I was so used to using AutoCAD with our ULS in school because it just worked. You printed from AutoCAD to the laser cutter, assigned colors to cut powers and hit go. [11/25/2019 2:09 PM] michaelb5250 Lightburn us better with DXFs so far [11/25/2019 2:10 PM] nullinterface Lightburn an alternative to RDWorks or has it replaced it? [11/25/2019 2:12 PM] michaelb5250 Ehhh alternative at the moment [11/25/2019 2:12 PM] michaelb5250 Pretty soon RDWorks will be the alternative to lightburn, but I think we'll always have both installed. [11/25/2019 2:12 PM] michaelb5250 Just, RDWorks support will be... Lacking [11/25/2019 2:13 PM] nullinterface It's bizarre how CAD apps can decipher DXFs no problem, but art-focused apps and anything that generates g-code throws up its hands at the sight of it [11/25/2019 2:14 PM] nullinterface will have to re-learn all of this next week [11/25/2019 2:14 PM] michaelb5250 No kidding. For the price of AutoCAD or solidworks they can certainly afford to write a good dxf engine [11/25/2019 2:15 PM] michaelb5250 Lightburn is pretty easy, but it's only on big thunder and donner right now [11/25/2019 2:15 PM] nullinterface hell, even the knockoff that I use - Draftsight - has no issues with it [11/25/2019 2:17 PM] nullinterface and maybe someday see if I can learn and acquire licenses for the new hawtness in CAD apps since the Fusion360 model of doing things seems to be the way of the world [11/25/2019 2:18 PM] michaelb5250 Definitely do not enjoy fusion 360... Not even sure how to do 2D drawings with it [11/25/2019 2:19 PM] michaelb5250 I will cling to AutoCAD for dear life. For 2D work at least [11/25/2019 2:20 PM] nullinterface the *cool kids* will point to the benefits of parametric design [11/25/2019 2:21 PM] nullinterface and they're not necessarily wrong, but sometimes one just wants to use the seemingly more powerful 2D raw geometry engine in the likes of AutoCAD [11/25/2019 2:22 PM] michaelb5250 I mean I use solidworks for most things. But man if you can wrap your head around a three view projection there are some pretty powerful tricks you can play with it in AutoCAD. [11/25/2019 2:23 PM] michaelb5250 Anything with expensive material or that'll take lots of work to cut I do in 3D Cad because it's pretty easy for me to make a mistake otherwise. [11/25/2019 2:24 PM] canibalcrab Fusion 360 just redid their menus and ruined any habit people had [11/25/2019 2:25 PM] canibalcrab I ended up just saying fuck it. And I made my model on SketchUp real quick for a demo [11/25/2019 3:02 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/648629650402181130/JPEG_20191125_150223.jpg?ex=67b8e9ef&is=67b7986f&hm=e45766581eaac97005920f0e4f8e00f0eb83fa7875b56c86f75720f0df460e25& {Reactions} 🏈 [11/25/2019 3:03 PM] canibalcrab Footballs you see in plywood. They usually indicate a knot was removed and repaired or there's a knot in that location inside one of the internal plys [11/25/2019 3:03 PM] canibalcrab They don't laser well at all [11/25/2019 3:04 PM] canibalcrab And they shred [11/25/2019 3:04 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/648630108088827945/JPEG_20191125_150418.jpg?ex=67b8ea5c&is=67b798dc&hm=69bce9ae3ca87540c9a23f935155d76761399a352e82ba1dfdfccad9a653e17b& [11/25/2019 4:16 PM] nullinterface The couple of times I experimented with Fusion360 and OnShape I found the tutorials far too handwavey to be of use [11/25/2019 4:19 PM] michaelb5250 OnShape was pretty nice. It was more or less online solidworks. If I didn't already have solidworks I would probably use it instead [11/25/2019 11:50 PM] michaelb5250 3443 minutes later, ours are up: https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee_Meeting_Minutes_20191123 {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee_Meeting_Minutes_20191123 Laser Committee Meeting Minutes 20191123 {Reactions} Ani100 [11/26/2019 12:35 AM] doug.emes :dms: [11/26/2019 9:58 AM] nullinterface sir, the unit of time in the FFF system is the fortnight [11/26/2019 2:35 PM] agr0090 what kind of dampers? [11/26/2019 2:37 PM] michaelb5250 None selected, but so far this style https://www.grainger.com/product/48C159 {Embed} https://www.grainger.com/product/48C159 Remote Balancing Damper, For Use In Designed to Regulate the Flow... Remote Balancing Damper, 6 In https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/38VWHRwY5ktixlSrYAFG7_7kz0ceOx5GDq5Oq46-dps/https/static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/48C159_AW01 [11/26/2019 2:38 PM] yashsedai if the laser is off + 15 minutes damper is closed [11/26/2019 2:39 PM] yashsedai or w/e the time we set [11/26/2019 2:39 PM] agr0090 ah, probably a lot cheaper than blast gates, arm chair thought would be I wonder if the amount of pressure (much more than typical AC duct) could cause issue with actuation [11/26/2019 2:39 PM] yashsedai nah [11/26/2019 2:39 PM] yashsedai it wont matter [11/26/2019 2:40 PM] yashsedai they are used in blower systems as well [11/26/2019 2:40 PM] yashsedai same setup is being blessed next door [11/26/2019 2:41 PM] michaelb5250 It's one of those butterfly valve things, pressure across the disc doesn't increase the load required to actuate it, since it's balanced on either side of the pivot. [11/26/2019 2:44 PM] agr0090 would woodshop notice if you steal a couple of the blast gates they have sitting around? Are those all 4 inch? [11/26/2019 2:46 PM] michaelb5250 Lol, they might have some 6". With the incredible speed they're installing their new system I bet it'd be months before they noticed {Reactions} 😂 [11/26/2019 10:15 PM] michaelb5250 For anyone interested, 1/2" plywood guy has done projects on the multicam but thinks his job is too intricate for the router, fwiw, I agree, lots of small pockets with sharp interior angles. Not sure he'll be able to cut it on the laser either but at least it's not a matter of sending a laser to do a routers job. [11/26/2019 10:22 PM] nullinterface clearly we need a big fiber laser {Reactions} 🤞 [11/27/2019 12:16 AM] andrew5152 and a water jet [11/27/2019 12:17 AM] andrew5152 (everybody drinks) [11/27/2019 3:14 PM] nullinterface the waterjet - truly the monorail of makerspace tools [11/27/2019 3:15 PM] michaelb5250 Hey they work great for Disney [11/28/2019 1:51 AM] michaelb5250 Has laser traditionally allowed pass through operation with the machines? I just assumed we didn't but some guy is acting like they do it normally [11/28/2019 4:51 AM] canibalcrab nope never [11/28/2019 4:51 AM] canibalcrab especially the back pass through [11/28/2019 6:38 AM] stephenie. Ditto nope never. [11/28/2019 6:39 AM] stephenie. Add it to the wiki rules if not there already [11/28/2019 8:04 AM] michaelb5250 Thanks, figured I'd doublen check [11/28/2019 10:22 AM] kenpurcell I the new laser lab it could be a possibility but currently that is a no! [11/28/2019 11:11 AM] hon1nbo What does "pass through" mean in this context [11/28/2019 11:13 AM] yashsedai talking about opening the side/back/front panels of the laser to accomodate larger stuff [11/28/2019 12:43 PM] hon1nbo Ah. I'd seen it permitted before by the prior chair under certain conditions (around minimizing exposure and enforcing glasses) [11/28/2019 12:43 PM] hon1nbo Just the front panel though [11/28/2019 1:04 PM] scott_blevins Just the front panel. Shaun Dixon has used front panel access on larger items. Complete pass-thru? No. [12/2/2019 8:43 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/651252207949447169/IMG_20191202_204222.jpg?ex=67b939e2&is=67b7e862&hm=ab5bb0a428697a7836416cbd249822b7e51037c35d75f169c13aafd0db6f9d09& [12/2/2019 8:43 PM] michaelb5250 I'm surprised the connector shorted before this [12/2/2019 8:53 PM] yashsedai lol [12/2/2019 8:53 PM] yashsedai say it aint so [12/2/2019 8:57 PM] kenpurcell Ummmm, sooty dust and high voltage. [12/2/2019 9:16 PM] canibalcrab Metal shop dust [12/2/2019 9:21 PM] hon1nbo Which unit is this? [12/2/2019 9:37 PM] canibalcrab Donner next to the metal shop door [12/2/2019 9:37 PM] canibalcrab The power supply side is directly next to the door [12/2/2019 9:47 PM] hon1nbo Sounds right. I've been wanting to ban grinding at the door for a while and now I have yet another reason [12/2/2019 9:52 PM] michaelb5250 Some of it is metal dust, but honestly old thunder wasn't any different. [12/2/2019 9:53 PM] canibalcrab It's likely coincidence [12/2/2019 9:54 PM] canibalcrab But I'd bet it wouldn't be as bad if you checked the power supply on blitzen [12/2/2019 9:54 PM] canibalcrab I'm going to take a peek at the one we have in our shop [12/3/2019 12:42 AM] michaelb5250 See the problem is if there were significant amounts of metal dust, the power supply would've shorted out long before the connector. [12/3/2019 12:43 AM] canibalcrab So I just tried to open ours while the blower was on. It has enough negative pressure to hold the door closed and make you fight to open it. It could just be dust, not metal dust, due to the fact that it has its own single blower instead of a shared setup [12/3/2019 12:44 AM] canibalcrab Ours is dirty but not black dust [12/3/2019 12:44 AM] canibalcrab But I have the sides of ours taped off to make sure the pull is all from the lid and not the doors [12/3/2019 12:46 AM] michaelb5250 I'll buy that. Stronger ventilation... Hmmm... Definitely would cut down on buildup like that [12/3/2019 12:56 AM] canibalcrab No I think the strong pull from the single blower caused more build up [12/3/2019 12:58 AM] canibalcrab Ours is sealed, and pushes out from the fan {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/651316242006802432/JPEG_20191203_005627.jpg?ex=67b97584&is=67b82404&hm=cf5b23702255c3da5932f071c5dde410af006eef3ce761f1fd3a952964f70311& [12/3/2019 12:59 AM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/651316458600660993/JPEG_20191203_005742.jpg?ex=67b975b8&is=67b82438&hm=0cda669377ae4ee2aff18b1b6fec5390f176c177a2bb74f73facf049b6deec96& [12/3/2019 12:59 AM] canibalcrab Medium sized thunder so it has double doors instead of single [12/3/2019 1:01 AM] canibalcrab And this laser is actually in a room with an aluminum polishing setup. So in theory we should have some pretty bad metal dust [12/5/2019 2:54 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/652251570410618945/IMG_20191205_145336213.jpg?ex=67b8e81c&is=67b7969c&hm=2f835386f7a62ac93d4de5870d2d542fdeb2b6f64558e436fb870c1ba7519642& [12/5/2019 2:55 PM] nullinterface I <3 lightburn [12/5/2019 3:22 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/652258441494265868/IMG_20191205_152155505.jpg?ex=67b8ee82&is=67b79d02&hm=7e214bf586e13f032e2a15278df173bfed232aaa13dac21cef6e47b857bada59& [12/5/2019 3:22 PM] nullinterface And maybe I don't. That's par for the course... [12/5/2019 3:45 PM] kenpurcell I usually bring some pins and get my work off of the honeycomb. [12/5/2019 4:17 PM] nullinterface The laser by metal shop doesn't seem to be cutting consistently. Or maybe lightburn had some settings I need to learn. [12/5/2019 4:36 PM] canibalcrab Were you in the top left corner? The bed looked pretty banged up and nonflat over there [12/5/2019 4:37 PM] canibalcrab Is that foam? [12/5/2019 6:09 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, that laser's got quite a dip in the top left. I thought I saw wood grain in the first picture which would make it cheap plywood. [12/5/2019 6:13 PM] nullinterface EVA foam + triply plywood [12/5/2019 6:13 PM] nullinterface Guess I'll locate it ... further ... from the laser next time [12/5/2019 6:14 PM] nullinterface But corners it seems to cut consistently while long straight cuts less so [12/5/2019 6:22 PM] nullinterface Guess I can just do double runs or somesuch... [12/5/2019 6:23 PM] nullinterface Foam in particular doesn't much care [12/5/2019 6:28 PM] nullinterface But I just could not find a combination of speed and power that would consistently cut the long straights [12/5/2019 6:29 PM] nullinterface Near corners, fewer problems, likely because it has to decel to make them [12/5/2019 6:30 PM] nullinterface What variant of DXF does RDWorks speak? [12/5/2019 6:36 PM] michaelb5250 The corners are most likely due to acceleration, the laser runs slower around sharp corners than it does down long straights. Reducing the speed should help, and shouldn't impact the corner quality [12/5/2019 7:07 PM] nullinterface It's already pretty slow on the plywood ... [12/5/2019 7:08 PM] nullinterface 20mm/sec or so, full power [12/5/2019 7:08 PM] nullinterface Foam I think I had it 200 mm/sec 10 or 20% power [12/5/2019 7:09 PM] nullinterface The vector *raster* worked out well enough [12/5/2019 7:10 PM] nullinterface But in the future I think I'll just prep a separate file for that and walk over to the zing [12/5/2019 7:58 PM] canibalcrab Raster works faster and better with bmp in rdworks btw [12/5/2019 8:52 PM] nullinterface OK. My raster needs are however quite basic. [12/5/2019 8:52 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/652341687204446228/IMG_20191205_205246805.jpg?ex=67b93c0a&is=67b7ea8a&hm=4db845540f67bab197f76023564133a2d9dc940fe49dd98d3d51fb90a31684ce& [12/5/2019 8:53 PM] nullinterface Quite satisfactory [12/6/2019 4:19 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/652635305563783169/IMG_20191206_161048792.jpg?ex=67b8fbfe&is=67b7aa7e&hm=64db39e1b0f517c4a4a70322b49e9c09d1a1135837044a92c2bbb3ff3356b3f2& [12/6/2019 4:19 PM] nullinterface So that happened [12/6/2019 4:19 PM] nullinterface Not sure if I did something wrong. Also, I owe for 10 minutes of Thunder time. [12/6/2019 4:22 PM] michaelb5250 I assume you focused it? Looks like someone either left theong throw in or out that damn window in place again. [12/6/2019 4:28 PM] canibalcrab That looks very out of focus [12/6/2019 4:28 PM] canibalcrab Perhaps someone was cleaning and flipped the lense over? [12/6/2019 4:30 PM] nullinterface I did focus it the outline above is a previous cut using the same settings [12/6/2019 4:36 PM] canibalcrab Yeah that's why we are thinking the hardware was changed [12/6/2019 4:37 PM] canibalcrab Still there? [12/6/2019 4:38 PM] michaelb5250 The outline above is from yesterday right? [12/6/2019 4:39 PM] canibalcrab Maybe they replaced the tube with a sharpie {Reactions} dms (2) [12/6/2019 4:39 PM] canibalcrab A well used sharpie [12/6/2019 4:40 PM] michaelb5250 Nah no way they would've found a sharpie {Reactions} 😂 [12/6/2019 4:40 PM] canibalcrab Ill be honest I have no idea where they go [12/6/2019 4:43 PM] nullinterface In hindsight I was in a hurry I got distracted and it most likely got unfocused [12/6/2019 5:05 PM] canibalcrab I could be an issue with the focus not being able to tighten up enough and then the tube moved [12/6/2019 6:37 PM] nullinterface Reasonably certain I bumped the z axis, got distracted z then blithely continued [12/6/2019 10:19 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/652725863825014784/IMG_20191206_221549.jpg?ex=67b95054&is=67b7fed4&hm=0413698211cceeda432ac5ca0e2d05d70a0b163424e9336e4f185bdbba347b0f& [12/6/2019 10:21 PM] stephenie. You stacked two short cabinets? [12/6/2019 10:27 PM] agr0090 Lol, nice [12/6/2019 10:34 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, took the wheels off and stacked. Much easier than buying a tall cabinet. [12/7/2019 9:03 AM] nullinterface got some *nice plywood* from dad - will have to cut something decent from it [12/7/2019 9:03 AM] nullinterface ¼" 5-ply as opposed to the trrbl 5mm underlayment I've been using [12/20/2019 1:22 PM] agr0090 woodshop does indeed have some 6 and 5 inch blast gates [12/20/2019 1:24 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/657664524920553473/hsI4v-bIc53zfmgxFf0utgQl_UupP_AEs5o4Po2mT63JiL8X05IErX4LjaNdQWc4Xz-jW-EDpPfNBKYXISgTJAKtVcGbmz4LUrpf.png?ex=67b8d2d1&is=67b78151&hm=a342d836fd4cac60c58c768c4cea6745895cc6d6d50dfb2570f93be0ddecc2e5& [12/20/2019 1:28 PM] michaelb5250 Oh how fancy, haven't managed to order anything yet but that looks tempting. [12/20/2019 4:11 PM] nullinterface pneumaticly actuated? [12/20/2019 4:12 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, but that might mean they're better for dealing with the junk that will inevitably build up on the surface. Might. [12/20/2019 4:22 PM] agr0090 if diameter of that cylinder is 1 inch @ 120 psi it would have over 90 pounds of closing force [12/20/2019 4:23 PM] agr0090 if it is closer to 1/2 inch diameter, would be 25 pounds [12/21/2019 9:59 AM] jmb2122 Wanting the engrave a tumbler. Does anyone know the status of the rotary device? Is it working? Thanks! [12/21/2019 10:00 AM] michaelb5250 None of them are working at the moment. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/etching-powder-coated-yeti/66327 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/etching-powder-coated-yeti/66327 Etching powder coated yeti Hi, I need help with a last minute Christmas gift. I need to get a yeti bottle etched with the laser machine. I know what I want it to say but I don’t have the program to set it up. I will need help making the design come to life and get it etched. I will pay you! If you ca... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [12/21/2019 11:01 AM] jmb2122 Thank you for the update! [12/21/2019 7:09 PM] canibalcrab just noticed us on the thunderlaser website {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/658113894279282699/unknown.png?ex=67b923d3&is=67b7d253&hm=8799a8d99d2f7c8c8b17fa4320a5f0ff46929c96f58d30d16bff9545266f0961& {Reactions} 🙂 [12/21/2019 7:16 PM] michaelb5250 Uhhhhh I mean we speak to their pricing [12/21/2019 7:19 PM] canibalcrab ill give them credit for quality over our previous two lasers [12/21/2019 7:19 PM] canibalcrab the space doesnt treat any of the tools well, so they can at least withstand that too [12/21/2019 7:26 PM] michaelb5250 True but better than a full spectrum is a really low bar lol [12/21/2019 7:54 PM] nullinterface That FSL rep never did get back to us... [12/21/2019 7:57 PM] canibalcrab @michaelb what machine would be better at around 10k, 100-120w, 55"-60" wide bed [12/21/2019 7:59 PM] talkers A while back, at committee we approved buying the two different rotary devices from Cloudray. Can we go ahead with those purchases? [12/21/2019 7:59 PM] talkers Should be in the meeting notes [12/21/2019 7:59 PM] nullinterface How far back is "a while back" ? [12/21/2019 8:00 PM] talkers 6 months? [12/21/2019 8:00 PM] nullinterface Eh... I'd meet about that again [12/21/2019 8:00 PM] talkers Because we have more money now? [12/21/2019 8:00 PM] nullinterface Because the issue is stale [12/21/2019 8:01 PM] canibalcrab ^ [12/21/2019 8:01 PM] talkers The issue is always on talk [12/21/2019 8:02 PM] canibalcrab Simple enough to meet about it again and just do a procedural vote {Reactions} 👆 [12/21/2019 8:06 PM] nullinterface If there's a constituency for it, it will pass again [12/21/2019 8:11 PM] michaelb5250 @pearce McDonalds may be the best of the fast food hamburgers but that doesn't mean it's quality. [12/21/2019 8:12 PM] canibalcrab No im legit asking you [12/21/2019 8:13 PM] canibalcrab I need those specs but can't break the bank [12/21/2019 8:13 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, I thought you were being snide, sorry. We haven't found any similarly sized machines in that footprint [12/21/2019 8:14 PM] michaelb5250 They seem to top out at 48" wide, Boss was the recent one Andrew and Josh were looking at [12/21/2019 8:14 PM] canibalcrab Our Nova 51 at PolyPrinter has been awesome. But it's me and one other person who use it [12/21/2019 8:15 PM] canibalcrab I could possibly do 48 [12/21/2019 8:16 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, Boss has a 48" machine but the only real difference is theyre US based and probably have better support [12/21/2019 8:22 PM] canibalcrab Uta fablab has a boss and I'm always concerned with the amount of flair up they have [12/21/2019 8:23 PM] canibalcrab I seem to remember some customer service trouble stories too. I'll see if I can get an opinion from Eric about it from a space perspective [12/22/2019 1:10 AM] michaelb5250 @john a gorman we approved purchases at the last meeting for the rotaries, I'm just waiting on someone to do this: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/what-is-the-rotary-status-for-the-laser/51142/69?u=michaelb Before making the purchase. {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/what-is-the-rotary-status-for-the-laser/51142/69?u=michaelb What is the Rotary Status for the laser? It’s a double stack NEMA23 stepper, so we just need to find a driver that has a wide range of microstepping adjustment and can run that motor. 24-48v input, step/for/en signals are all 5v. I don’t know what resolution the controller is expecting, sadly. Actually, if anyo... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/uA45BibYdJNM8-S_ZgxDZNXkHk74cvq5I-xR41o0NxI/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/user_avatar/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/michaelb/200/38028_2.png [12/22/2019 4:21 AM] talkers @ @michaelb that's a different thing. A good, important thing. But different. I thought we had agreed on both a roller system and a chuck system. Cloudray has a roller system and a chuck system (chuck without a tail stock last I looked) [12/22/2019 10:22 AM] michaelb5250 Without people willing to help service the existing rotaries, I don't want to purchase any more. [12/22/2019 8:23 PM] talkers What? They are very different things. The new ones should be good to go. I have spent many many hours on the old ones, going thru hoops with tech support, replacing the motors, updating the diagrams for the wiring. The state they are in now is beyond my skill set. The proposed and previously approved rotaries are a different breed. They would allow some crossover, as well as new options. Demand for this functionality is huge. I get asked weekly. For the last 15 months. [12/22/2019 8:54 PM] nullinterface then it will be an easy sell at a committee meeting {Reactions} 👍 🤔 [12/22/2019 9:04 PM] michaelb5250 I've seen one request a month. [12/22/2019 9:35 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, I apologize for not posting this sooner, the next committee meeting is the 28th, this Saturday. Since it's the holidays and late notice I'm willing to have one in early January as well, if people are interested. Second Saturday would be good. In addition to the typical January meeting on the 25th. [12/22/2019 9:35 PM] michaelb5250 I can post it to talk and calendar later tonight, or if someone else does I'll fill in agenda items [12/22/2019 9:44 PM] talkers Thank you @michaelb [12/22/2019 9:46 PM] talkers @michaelb the difference may be that I taught many, many people to use the rotary, not just the lasers. [12/22/2019 10:06 PM] michaelb5250 I'll keep asking, but the response from people so far is 'yeah I learned to use the rotary but I just never needed it' [12/22/2019 10:07 PM] michaelb5250 So, for now, my conclusion is that the maintenance headaches we've had to keep these running is not worth the relatively small number of members they serve. [12/22/2019 10:08 PM] michaelb5250 Obviously, a rotary with fewer maintenance problems, or a larger group of people needing it, change that conclusion. But that's where I'm at for now [12/22/2019 10:36 PM] talkers Not having one avail for 15 months does kill the momentum. The 2 we previously approved from Cloudray are different models. One of a 2 roller system, vs a chuck. The second is a chuck without tailstock. Regardless, the problems we have had with the thunder systems are either controller board or steeper motor issues. Neither should fail easily if well made [12/22/2019 10:38 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb as one of those waiting on the rotary, not having it has been a killer. I used to do powder coating classes where I suggested bringing yeti cups and we would laser them. It's one of those things people think less of if it's always down [12/22/2019 10:40 PM] talkers Last month my mom bought tumblers for presents and asked me to etch. I'm like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [12/22/2019 10:43 PM] canibalcrab hit the meeting. it doesnt sound like anyone is saying no to them [12/22/2019 10:44 PM] talkers You mean the things everyone said yes to before? [12/22/2019 10:45 PM] canibalcrab months ago [12/22/2019 10:46 PM] canibalcrab just get a new confirmation [12/22/2019 10:46 PM] canibalcrab sounds like you are just looking for things to nit pick [12/22/2019 10:46 PM] aceat64 it's 6 days from now, I don't think this issue is so pressing that it needs to be done before a proper committee meeting [12/22/2019 10:47 PM] talkers Or just frustration. I researched and presented before. I have family in town for the holidays this next weekend [12/22/2019 10:47 PM] canibalcrab sounds like a good use for a proxy [12/22/2019 10:51 PM] aceat64 looks like his hands are tied either way, I checked the committee minutes and can't find a vote to approve buying them, so even if this was urgent, the documentation isn't there {Reactions} ☝️ [12/22/2019 10:57 PM] michaelb5250 @pearce slim chance, but do y'all have a rotary at polyprinter? [12/22/2019 11:03 PM] canibalcrab no we dont have a need. but i almost bought one for myself to use there [12/23/2019 12:22 AM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/658555030453878785/IMG_20191223_002142.jpg?ex=67b96d2a&is=67b81baa&hm=15ff24717400cbd6e42e976b2fb937f39b06e54af5fbf0886d9748d383746ac9& [12/23/2019 12:23 AM] stephenie. The orange and white tumblers have been waiting since before 2 Halloweens ago. [12/23/2019 12:27 AM] stephenie. I recall the rotary tool & class as being much sought after, especially at holiday time. [12/23/2019 12:27 AM] canibalcrab i dont think any one is arguing that [12/23/2019 12:28 AM] canibalcrab i even could have used it before wasteland to make some cool stuff to take out [12/23/2019 12:28 AM] canibalcrab the only sticking point is wanting minutes for the transaction [12/23/2019 12:30 AM] michaelb5250 I'm not gonna disagree that it's cool to have [12/23/2019 12:31 AM] stephenie. *"I'll keep asking, but the response from people so far is 'yeah I learned to use the rotary but I just never needed it'. So, for now, my conclusion is that the maintenance headaches we've had to keep these running is not worth the relatively small number of members they serve. Obviously, a rotary with fewer maintenance problems, or a larger group of people needing it, change that conclusion. But that's where I'm at for now"* Sounds like a sticking point also. So I am bearing witness to the large demand dating back to pre-Sept 2018. [12/23/2019 12:32 AM] michaelb5250 But yeah, I don't want to just keep buying rotaries when they break. The last one we bought didn't even work on arrival [12/23/2019 12:33 AM] stephenie. @Scott_Blevins, @pinewoodnut and @MotoPilot can attest that we realized we needed at least 2 rotaries to keep up with demand. [12/23/2019 12:33 AM] stephenie. Why wasn't the busted one returned? [12/23/2019 12:34 AM] michaelb5250 I'm not sure, but if I had to guess, it's probably exceedingly difficult to return something to thunder laser in China. [12/23/2019 12:34 AM] canibalcrab they have us support [12/23/2019 12:35 AM] stephenie. The U.S. distributor is in Waxahachie [12/23/2019 12:47 AM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/658561273323192320/unknown.png?ex=67b972fb&is=67b8217b&hm=2bada44c5c7ea245a30f2094efcc0da7f3232145cdda33ec3d2d471c89930bf2& [12/23/2019 12:47 AM] stephenie. March 2018 [12/23/2019 12:48 AM] stephenie. We had to abandon that purchase because of difficulty contacting mfg. [12/23/2019 12:49 AM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/658561808189227057/unknown.png?ex=67b9737a&is=67b821fa&hm=9c5fd278d9e49e1d84371df16f6eb11b403d3689e8287bcd8eca5c56dab5a8fe& [12/23/2019 12:49 AM] stephenie. June 2018 [12/23/2019 12:52 AM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/658562626783019021/unknown.png?ex=67b9743d&is=67b822bd&hm=c5ed484bf62f10f9121c7445f8d85aedb3317e1becf934d22f945010564e9868& [12/23/2019 12:52 AM] stephenie. October 2018 [12/23/2019 12:55 AM] stephenie. The replacement Thunder-brand rotary was to be bundled with a replacement vector grid for Big Thunder and a new control panel to save on shipping costs. Those were voted on at the tail end of my tenure. [12/23/2019 12:58 AM] stephenie. Then around Jan 2019 laser decided to scrap Big Thunder and replace it in whole. [12/23/2019 1:29 AM] stephenie. I'm looking at the receipt for the rotary. Invoice is dated Feb 15, 2019 and was ordered from the U.S. distributor, located two hours from here near Tyler, TX. (I was wrong about the town. Was Whitehouse, TX, not Waxahachie) [12/23/2019 1:29 AM] stephenie. Cost: $580 + 28.45 S/H = $608.45 [12/23/2019 1:30 AM] stephenie. Our QBO balance is $71,000+. [12/23/2019 1:31 AM] stephenie. The cost of a rotary is less than one percent of our balance. [12/23/2019 9:34 AM] michaelb5250 All I'm asking for, to fix the current rotaries, is someone to do a test cut. That's it. For me to continue to put effort into them when no one else is willing to spend even 20 minutes to help feels futile. They're cool, and it's perfectly reasonable to expect us to have the ability, but the fact that no one is willing to put even the smallest bit of work towards fixing them anymore tells me I shouldn't waste my time on it either. As for buying more from thunder instead of fixing the current one, I've seen zero evidence that it'll improve the situation. If we bought another, I fully expect to be having this same conversation again in 6 months. There's a slim chance a cloudray rotary will perform any better, slim. If someone wants to come to the meeting, vote on it, and handle the purchase of it I'm not going to get in the way, other than to say that when it does break, I hope someone else is willing to do the work to fix it. [12/23/2019 8:46 PM] michaelb5250 @pearce stopped by today, the rotary works on blitzen, using lightburn with 8000 steps/rev. RDWorks should work, but test it out first. Big thunder has some weird issue where it still stretches things, even with the new steps/rev setting. Donner has issues with the connector that we can fix on Saturday. [12/23/2019 10:15 PM] doug.emes There is no reason to use it on the big laser is there? The rotary that is [12/23/2019 10:24 PM] michaelb5250 That's exactly what we were thinking [12/23/2019 10:25 PM] michaelb5250 Donner however, we'll fix. Just a soldering iron and some patience. [12/23/2019 11:27 PM] canibalcrab 1000% correct @doug.emes the rotary is too far in the big thunders right corner and is just a poor use of the large bed footprint [12/26/2019 1:10 PM] limeytx Does anyone know an Andrew Bojorquez? [12/26/2019 1:11 PM] limeytx He left his phone and wallet in Laser area [12/26/2019 1:17 PM] canibalcrab He's the kid who makes guitars [12/26/2019 1:18 PM] michaelb5250 Oh see if there's a subura Baja truck out back. If so just page him on the intercom [12/26/2019 2:59 PM] doug.emes Intercom is still down until we reconfigure all the voip endpoints [12/26/2019 3:00 PM] michaelb5250 Whoops. Didn't know that. [12/26/2019 3:43 PM] doug.emes Moved from voip.ms to 3cx platform. Hoping to assist when fred and I can meet up [12/27/2019 4:30 PM] michaelb5250 Holy shit. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/660248112043917312/JPEG_20191227_162958.jpg?ex=67b8fe78&is=67b7acf8&hm=139b2b78e8be2896bfbe5c96e281c83328310f7d5e51b5d7cf78323428cb9e0e& [12/27/2019 4:31 PM] nullinterface I'm no expert, but that lens appears to have led a hard life [12/27/2019 4:37 PM] michaelb5250 Drilled a hole into the lens {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/660249895336149012/JPEG_20191227_163642.jpg?ex=67b90021&is=67b7aea1&hm=5791a66d9ed19843c034dfa1b231043339c2546a9c24c0c215a51dd6042c4a33& [12/27/2019 5:03 PM] canibalcrab It's a speed hole [12/27/2019 7:17 PM] doug.emes Do the 3 thunder use same lens [12/27/2019 7:21 PM] talkers @doug.emes yes. Our default lens tube has a 50mm throw. One thing to test would be using the 100mm throw lens tube. Deeper penetration. Less likely to be on fire from the material it's cutting. Would have to see about the loss of detail [12/27/2019 7:22 PM] canibalcrab I might suggest using the small compressors that came with the machines. We could have our air set too high or something. [12/27/2019 7:29 PM] talkers You are right about the air. That can be dialled back at each machine or the source. I haven't seen guidelines about how much we need to pump. Someone set it at 20lbs and we went with it. That pressure BTW isn't how much air is moved at the point of presence [12/27/2019 7:29 PM] talkers Lots of air interferes with cutting acrylic [12/27/2019 7:29 PM] talkers (Bubbles in the melt) [12/27/2019 7:34 PM] michaelb5250 So we're assuming less airflow will help out? I would've guessed the opposite. [12/27/2019 7:35 PM] doug.emes We should consider bulk lenses and allowing individual purchase. This weekly ruining of lenses is nuts. [12/27/2019 7:38 PM] michaelb5250 We've talked about a group buy of lens tubes and lenses but we couldn't do it officially through the space afaik [12/27/2019 7:50 PM] doug.emes We vend consumables via kiosks. Vinyl, etc. [12/27/2019 7:51 PM] michaelb5250 Oh that's an interesting plan. I had not considered doing it at the kiosk. [12/27/2019 8:14 PM] michaelb5250 The lenses we buy are $28 and I'm not 100% on the lens tube but between $9-$15 depending on which OD is it. [12/27/2019 8:14 PM] michaelb5250 (Yes I looked up the right lens this time) [12/27/2019 8:16 PM] agr0090 I wonder if members improperly setting focus and nozzle basically touching material could be reducing airflow [12/27/2019 8:17 PM] michaelb5250 To be fair, 20psi is what I would expect for air assist. Maybe even a little higher since we typically have those large openings in the cone and poor ventilation. [12/27/2019 8:19 PM] michaelb5250 Certainly if the nozzle is touching material it'll limit airflow. I think that's the argument for the long throw lenses, I just don't want the drawbacks of having to get people to use new focus tools, reduced engraving resolution, lower power density, etc. [12/27/2019 8:19 PM] doug.emes I'm thinking of at least 15 folks who would jump at owning a committee approved self owned tube and lend [12/27/2019 8:20 PM] michaelb5250 Even at a $45 cost? [12/27/2019 8:20 PM] doug.emes Yes [12/27/2019 8:20 PM] doug.emes Versus ruining large sheets [12/27/2019 8:20 PM] michaelb5250 I would love to do it [12/27/2019 8:20 PM] doug.emes Let's bring it up to a vote to specifically allow it [12/27/2019 8:20 PM] michaelb5250 Less wear on our equipment, and less frustration for people that come in and find broken lenses [12/27/2019 8:21 PM] michaelb5250 We can do that tomorrow. [12/27/2019 8:22 PM] doug.emes :+1: [12/27/2019 8:22 PM] michaelb5250 Also going to get quotes on a HEPA for the small Zing. [12/27/2019 8:22 PM] michaelb5250 http://www.quatro-air.com/sph400-laser-fume-extractor.html {Embed} http://www.quatro-air.com/sph400-laser-fume-extractor.html SPH-400 Laser Fume Extractor 1 877 978 2876 • Air purifiers, Fume extractors and dust collectors for Laser Cutting, Laser Marking, Laser Engraving, Dental Labs, Jewelry, Medical, IVF, Digital Printing, Offset Printing, Large Format Printing, Optical Labs [12/27/2019 8:22 PM] michaelb5250 http://www.quatro-air.com/lph400-laser-fume-extractor.html {Embed} http://www.quatro-air.com/lph400-laser-fume-extractor.html LPH-400 Laser Fume Extractor 1 877 978 2876 • Air purifiers, Fume extractors and dust collectors for Laser Cutting, Laser Marking, Laser Engraving, Dental Labs, Jewelry, Medical, IVF, Digital Printing, Offset Printing, Large Format Printing, Optical Labs [12/27/2019 8:24 PM] michaelb5250 I've used these guys on a PCB mill and was quite happy, I wouldn't want to use these all the time (noise) but it'd let Zing be put on a cart and brought around to classrooms. [12/27/2019 8:24 PM] michaelb5250 Shouldn't be super expensive. {Reactions} 👍🏻 [12/27/2019 8:28 PM] kenpurcell ^ +1 [12/27/2019 8:50 PM] michaelb5250 Anyone want to do up a little wall mounted station for lens cleaning supplies? If we're going to sell lenses, we should have stuff for people to clean their own lenses out and available. [12/27/2019 8:52 PM] michaelb5250 Speaking of cleaning, where did we come up with the isopropyl and qtips method? In the past I've used some pinkish lens cleaning solution and the packs of cleaning paper, iirc they were far more effective that our current process... [12/27/2019 8:58 PM] doug.emes What time Saturday for the meeting it's not on the calendar [12/27/2019 8:58 PM] michaelb5250 Shit. [12/27/2019 8:59 PM] michaelb5250 I started to add that event and forgot. [12/27/2019 8:59 PM] michaelb5250 2pm tomorrow, we'll probably start a bit late [12/27/2019 9:01 PM] michaelb5250 We'll set a date and time for the January meeting tomorrow so this doesn't happen [12/27/2019 9:02 PM] kenpurcell If you want to make an event, I can approve it [12/27/2019 9:02 PM] talkers @michaelb that would be great. I might be able to make tomorrow, but for January I can plan [12/27/2019 9:02 PM] talkers @Lampy (Ken Purcell) I no longer can [12/27/2019 9:05 PM] michaelb5250 @Lampy (Ken Purcell) I appreciate it, but the page won't let me add an event less than 48 hours away. [12/27/2019 9:06 PM] michaelb5250 FWIW, here's what I have listed: -Vote on providing lens/lens tubes through square. -Vote on new power supply for dead thunder -Replace limit switch on blitzen -Check Air Assist Pressure -Fix Donner Rotary Connector -Remove TV and check power supply -Discuss Laser 101 Online -Set a date/time for the January Meeting [12/27/2019 9:06 PM] doug.emes It would take fred access to edit date inside 48 [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] kenpurcell Yeah, doing do would require changing some settings temporarily. [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] yashsedai What is the title [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] yashsedai of your event [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] michaelb5250 Laser Committee Meeting [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] doug.emes Thank you sir [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] yashsedai What time tomorrow? [12/27/2019 9:07 PM] michaelb5250 2pm-6pm, purple [12/27/2019 9:08 PM] michaelb5250 I didn't think many people would show since we're right in the middle of the holidays, and I guess I made sure of that by forgetting to put it on the calendar 😅 [12/27/2019 9:08 PM] doug.emes Gives us some strategic goal setting time [12/27/2019 9:09 PM] kenpurcell Thanks Freddy [12/27/2019 9:15 PM] yashsedai https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/14878 [12/27/2019 9:16 PM] doug.emes Registered [12/27/2019 9:16 PM] doug.emes Woohoo [12/27/2019 9:17 PM] doug.emes Michael you wanna post or I can do it for you on talk real quick [12/27/2019 9:20 PM] doug.emes Found your post. You mentioned 3pm, I can reply it's from 2pm [12/27/2019 9:20 PM] doug.emes I did put the event link in the convo [12/27/2019 9:21 PM] scott_blevins I won’t be able to make the Laser Committee tomorrow, but will try to make the January mtg. Glad to hear about the forward momentum on the HEPA unit for the Zing. [12/27/2019 9:23 PM] scott_blevins Beau would also be happy to hear about that. [12/27/2019 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 Oh uhh, ok so in reality it's whatever Kris Wong can make. So if she said she was going to be a little late to 3pm then it should be 3pm. [12/27/2019 9:31 PM] scott_blevins If you make an edit to the Talk event, you should also edit the event title ‘Lasers Down 3-6pm’. [12/27/2019 9:32 PM] scott_blevins Or 4-6, whichever. [12/27/2019 9:44 PM] stephenie. @michaelb can't make the meeting this month. Out of town for the holidays. Am with Team Laser in spirit. [12/28/2019 2:30 PM] doug.emes Kitchen sink leak issues in the drain piping. Not going to make meeting. [12/28/2019 2:31 PM] doug.emes Michael please take my strong proxy which auto revokes January 1 2020 [12/28/2019 2:31 PM] doug.emes And ask for a vote regarding authorizing member owned tubes and lenses, and a 2nd action to purchase bulk qt for vending [12/28/2019 4:32 PM] michaelb5250 Approved for ~10 sets of lenses and tubes. We'll restock as needed. {Reactions} 🥇 (3) [12/28/2019 5:10 PM] doug.emes Hooray [12/30/2019 10:33 PM] michaelb5250 the local Epilog distributor offers this for a filter: https://bofainternational.com/us/find-products/extraction-systems/results/ad-base-z/ at $2550 and shipping. They have a slightly cheaper model that has to sit next to the laser, but I think the base is better for us {Embed} https://bofainternational.com/us/find-products/extraction-systems/results/ad-base-z/ AD Base Z - BOFA [12/30/2019 10:33 PM] michaelb5250 Haven't heard back from Quatro yet on pricing for their system [12/30/2019 11:01 PM] michaelb5250 How's January 18th for the next meeting? I'd like to bring up the HEPA filter for approval, and maybe a new laser if the environment looks right. [12/30/2019 11:02 PM] michaelb5250 Also, I PMd Brad on talk about a month ago asking for a rough idea of our balance. Haven't heard anything. Is there a better way to reach him? [12/31/2019 12:27 AM] hon1nbo anyone at the space? PA is broken [12/31/2019 12:27 AM] hon1nbo guy keeps walking away from their job on blitzen [12/31/2019 12:28 AM] hon1nbo @here [12/31/2019 12:30 AM] hon1nbo now it looks like someone took over while they prep another job on donner? Unsure [12/31/2019 12:35 AM] hon1nbo now has walked away from the job on donner [12/31/2019 12:37 AM] hon1nbo now both away from the running raster on blitzen and after a few moments split up and swapped machines again... I think this guy is running two machines and he's having someone sit at the other to look like another job, but every so often one of them leaves one of the two machines unattended [12/31/2019 12:52 AM] hon1nbo all thunders are in use; the camera is washed out on the queue sign so I can't tell if there is writing on the queue or not [12/31/2019 1:29 AM] hon1nbo Member will be reaching out to the chair directly [12/31/2019 9:59 AM] michaelb5250 We could pick up a 1500VA UPS that could run the exhaust and the Zing for a few minutes. It might not be a bad idea to prevent the possibility of tripping over the cable problems. [12/31/2019 4:26 PM] doug.emes I'll donate a mikrotik for the bridge [1/2/2020 12:58 PM] michaelb5250 Quatro came back with a unit that's about $100 more but with cheaper filters, and more airflow. Just waiting on fumex to respond. [1/2/2020 1:23 PM] doug.emes Does the cabinet have room for a NUC style pc? [1/2/2020 1:23 PM] doug.emes In general? [1/2/2020 1:26 PM] michaelb5250 We would have to build a cabinet for the quatro or fumex systems, so yeah, they'll have room 😝 [1/2/2020 1:27 PM] michaelb5250 I think the bofa would too. In the case, it'd be the cleanest and coolest nuc ever because we could probably sit it inside the exhaust plenum of the unit. Imagine all that airflow, with zero dust [1/2/2020 2:19 PM] nullinterface are there plans to offer laser basics in January? [1/3/2020 10:18 AM] michaelb5250 Fumex got back with a $1700 quote and the cheapest replacement filters so far. I'll do up a little summary soon and if anyone's got input into picking one (Bofa AD Base Z vs Quatro SPH-400+Prefilter vs Fumex FA1-E) before the meeting it'd be much appreciated. [1/3/2020 10:19 AM] michaelb5250 I'd still like to pick up a UPS as well so we're looking at $5k max to make the Zing portable (<$3k extractor + <$2k UPS). [1/3/2020 10:20 AM] nullinterface assume this is for portable / *road show* usage of the Zing? [1/3/2020 10:20 AM] nullinterface or classroom usage as well? [1/3/2020 10:20 AM] michaelb5250 All of the above, hopefully. [1/3/2020 10:21 AM] nullinterface UPS would protect the unit for brief power interruptions, allow for offgrid usage, both? [1/3/2020 10:21 AM] michaelb5250 To Chris's point on talk, we're talking about as much power as a large microwave. [1/3/2020 10:21 AM] michaelb5250 The UPS would let you keep going if someone trips on the plug, or pause the job safely if the breaker trips. [1/3/2020 10:22 AM] michaelb5250 Which, I mean, if someone plugs a heat gun or large shop vac in the same circuit as us, might happen. [1/3/2020 10:45 AM] stephenie. The primary purpose back in the day was to be able to move it to a classroom. It's current location is darn near impossible for teaching. Students block use of Blitzen. Hard to see monitor. etc etc [1/3/2020 10:46 AM] stephenie. It's a great machine. Deserves more use. [1/3/2020 10:46 AM] nullinterface fabulous for engraving [1/3/2020 10:47 AM] nullinterface just wish it allowed for upper-corner indexing and the workflow allowed for "send file to machine" ala the thunders [1/3/2020 10:49 AM] stephenie. Made EVA foam stamps for my return address...wonderful feature. [1/3/2020 10:50 AM] stephenie. Perforating paper...that's lovely too. [1/3/2020 10:59 AM] michaelb5250 From the incident a few nights ago (member walking away from the laser while running). But the time it got to me he was sufficiently apologetic, so since he's sweated it out for a few days waiting I let him know he's all ok, just not to cause problems again. For the future, I think it's fine if someone wants to run a large job across two lasers (with two laser certified members obviously), as long as no one is in the queue and they understand that they should be ready to come to a quick stopping point and reliquish the second laser if another member comes up. Additionally, I don't mind a user finding someone else laser certified to complete their job if they're kicked off for a safety violation. Our immediate concern is the safety of the laser and the users, and having someone else step in fixes those problems. We can deal with consequences later. All in all, we don't have many problems in laser. I don't want to get people worried that they'll be harshly punished for infrequent mistakes. They'll be too nervous to go near the machines. Personally, I'll always feel that those lapses in judgement are best addressed face to face with the presumption that it was an honest mistake, and a solid explanation of why we have said rules in place. I'd hate to see the makerspace become a place where groups of people patrol the building expecting fellow members to do as they say soley because of a position they hold. [1/3/2020 11:00 AM] michaelb5250 @ESmith if that's what you're looking for, let me introduce you to the new laser I'm hoping to purchase 😉 [1/3/2020 11:08 AM] nullinterface not sure if the zing is just old / unsupported, but I know newer epilogs will at the very least allow for corner zero as opposed to center/center or edge/center [1/3/2020 11:11 AM] michaelb5250 The Fusion uses a newer print driver that gives you a preview of the job on the bed before you send it to the machine. Also has a camera that's surprisingly well aligned, so you can position the job on your actual part before cutting. [1/3/2020 11:13 AM] canibalcrab I always corner zero with our zing [1/3/2020 11:20 AM] nullinterface did not see that option last I used it [1/3/2020 11:25 AM] canibalcrab I'd have to look before I could explain it [1/3/2020 11:25 AM] canibalcrab I'll see if it's open tonight [1/3/2020 11:31 AM] nullinterface also, I'd be ecstatic if we had a Lightburn license for all the lasers [1/3/2020 11:33 AM] michaelb5250 We do? [1/3/2020 11:34 AM] michaelb5250 Oh, forgot to announce that maybe. All the thunder computers have lightburn now [1/3/2020 11:35 AM] michaelb5250 Going to vote on switching the remaining licenses over to a floating network license at the next meeting, so we can put it on all computers at the space (maybe 5 or 10 seats total). [1/3/2020 11:38 AM] nullinterface perhaps that change was implemented after the ~second week of December [1/3/2020 12:04 PM] nullinterface my laser usage comes in intermittent bursts [1/3/2020 12:06 PM] canibalcrab That's how my zing use works [1/3/2020 12:20 PM] nullinterface so to repeat myself ... are there plans to offer laser basics / 101 / etc this month? [1/3/2020 12:21 PM] nullinterface asking in response to an inquiry I've received [1/3/2020 12:22 PM] canibalcrab He's doing admin stuff [1/3/2020 12:22 PM] michaelb5250 Best thing to do is post on talk, obviously we should have classes this month but the teachers on talk will know when they're going up [1/3/2020 12:22 PM] nullinterface Also, could someone exerienced with laser usage *comp out*? [1/3/2020 12:25 PM] michaelb5250 Uhhh... I mean the interface just varies so much between different machines. Like, I would easily say I had laser experience before I got here, but having to manually focus, set an origin, and use an intermediate software like RDWorks were not things I would have considered. [1/3/2020 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 If someone has experience with similar (Chinese, glass tube, maybe with a ruida controller) machines I wouldn't be opposed to a checkout process. But if they're coming from somewhere with an epilog/trotec/etc then I'd prefer they take the class. [1/3/2020 12:26 PM] nullinterface they mention epilog [1/3/2020 12:26 PM] nullinterface I'll point them towards Talk [1/3/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, like you'd think it's be fine but imagine if all you'd ever used is the zing and you try and jump on a thunder. So much different. [1/3/2020 12:27 PM] nullinterface sure [1/3/2020 12:28 PM] nullinterface and by the time you figure out where they are and go over the differences you've spent a decent fraction of a class interval [1/3/2020 12:29 PM] michaelb5250 Exactly. Theres overlap but it's not much [1/3/2020 2:40 PM] canibalcrab Heads up on the talk thread, with "I'm an exception to the rules, can I cut a banned material" {Reactions} 🤣 (2) [1/3/2020 2:44 PM] sewingstuff2561 That’s like a DMS plague. The special rules member. [1/3/2020 2:45 PM] michaelb5250 I mean neither of you are wrong. Like he technically could cut that just fine (it doesn't produce chlorine gas), and to his point the banned material is listed as >1mm PC, but it is annoying that he asked as if he wants special treatment. [1/3/2020 2:45 PM] michaelb5250 I was planning on moving it to its own thread and responding tonight [1/3/2020 2:46 PM] andrew5152 Ha! not just DMS... It's worldwide from my limited observations... [1/3/2020 2:46 PM] canibalcrab We've seen damage from cutting chlorine bases plastics. It's not actually making mustard gas [1/3/2020 2:46 PM] canibalcrab But it does ruin steel parts on the machines [1/3/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250 Polycarbonate doesn't contain chlorine, it's a bunch of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. I really don't know where the chlorine line came from. [1/3/2020 2:47 PM] canibalcrab Who knows [1/3/2020 2:48 PM] canibalcrab I'm not fact checking [1/3/2020 2:48 PM] canibalcrab But im pretty sure you can still see the damage on the thunder nearest the back door [1/3/2020 2:49 PM] canibalcrab But even if it's fine to do a small amount of cutting it, we have too many people who would be doing small cuts [1/3/2020 2:49 PM] michaelb5250 No argument from me that it produces a nasty white smoke and leaves a horrible burnt edge. I've tried to cut 1/4" before and we decided to shop bot all PC after that [1/3/2020 2:51 PM] michaelb5250 But we'll either change the banned material to all polycarbonate or let him do it since it's extremely thin which means we have enough power and not as much smoke [1/3/2020 2:51 PM] canibalcrab I don't know why it had a thickness honestly [1/3/2020 2:52 PM] canibalcrab As far back as I remember it's always been flat banned [1/3/2020 2:53 PM] michaelb5250 you just don't get that huge volume of smoke and cut issues when it's really thin stuff. 0.02" was about as much as we could manage to cut with a 60W ULS machine, iirc. [1/3/2020 2:54 PM] michaelb5250 But probably, the answer to say no because of our poor ventilation. Maybe if we have good extraction in the future we can allow thin stuff again. [1/8/2020 8:12 PM] michaelb5250 45 jobs and 26 hours of usage before someone reported the CO2 nozzles were down. [1/9/2020 12:08 AM] doug.emes Sounds like the safety check is being ignored [1/9/2020 10:00 AM] nullinterface Wow. I always make sure they'll release a puff. [1/9/2020 10:07 AM] michaelb5250 It could be people not reporting issues to talk, or people not making use of the CO2, or both. [1/9/2020 10:09 AM] michaelb5250 I tend to think that most people (having never seen a massive flair up), won't share the level of concern that anyone who was at ladybird probably has [1/9/2020 12:02 PM] kenpurcell well got to make sure the brakes are on the bus?! Why not some "safety gas" [1/9/2020 12:20 PM] hon1nbo How fast does laser go through gas? [1/9/2020 12:20 PM] canibalcrab they shouldnt unless stuff is catching fire [1/9/2020 12:20 PM] michaelb5250 Like a tank every 6 months [1/9/2020 12:21 PM] michaelb5250 The event yesterday was we shut it off because it was leaking, not running out of gas [1/9/2020 12:23 PM] michaelb5250 Though if y'all stock a 6pack of argon/co2... [1/9/2020 12:28 PM] michaelb5250 We could just tee off and use that instead, it'd probably be just as good [1/9/2020 6:05 PM] hon1nbo we'll have flow monitoring on the 6 pack too to track usage, when things are low, etc [1/9/2020 10:34 PM] robert22 https://youtu.be/WnDjIDhxnMs {Embed} styropyro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnDjIDhxnMs Destructive Testing of Laser Goggles! Find out which goggles to use with your high powered laser and also see how those eBay goggles hold up to a direct hit with a laser! In this video I broke out some of my huge lasers and blasted some goggles from ebay as well as survival lasers. The ebay goggles gave mixed ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/g2UM2VpHj8Qs0iGGYpVQ0v1mQH1rlsK25F14k--R-ME/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/WnDjIDhxnMs/maxresdefault.jpg [1/9/2020 10:35 PM] robert22 Interesting video [1/17/2020 1:26 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-banned-materials-question/67358 how could that not possibly go over anything but awesome? {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-banned-materials-question/67358 Laser Banned Materials Question So I don’t see pizza on the banned materials list. Is lasers policy more like dont cut it if it’s on the banned list or only cut it if it’s on the approved list which doesn’t really exist. I feel like pizza falls in a grey area but won’t hurt or kill anyone or damag... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Ks3JWxJIvB0sY48Vp2rax5BvbrLVrSe-nxa8oIzOqY0/%3F_nc_ht%3Dscontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com%26_nc_cat%3D1%26_nc_ohc%3DurKuxRFilqYAX-QvB-j%26oh%3D4baedb04b79c182c69a91324a06674e7%26oe%3D5E244AA7/https/scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/81829542_567628387416102_8338922841387004282_n.jpg [1/17/2020 1:49 PM] michaelb5250 I'll be honest in college I engraved a friend some happy birthday tortillas. Food can be fun [1/17/2020 1:50 PM] andrew5152 nicole did tortillas in DMS', too [1/17/2020 1:50 PM] andrew5152 should be on talk under "tortilla" [1/17/2020 1:51 PM] michaelb5250 But not pizza. And that means it's easiest just to say no to food. [1/17/2020 1:52 PM] andrew5152 it is, indeed [1/17/2020 1:52 PM] andrew5152 👍 [1/17/2020 1:52 PM] andrew5152 and the only answer the chair of laser can really give [1/17/2020 1:52 PM] andrew5152 in good concience [1/17/2020 1:52 PM] andrew5152 wish I could splel (or type, apparently) [1/17/2020 1:53 PM] kenpurcell Made sugar ornaments on my K40. Smelled great! [1/17/2020 1:54 PM] michaelb5250 Like lay out a bed of sugar and melt it together with the laser? [1/17/2020 1:59 PM] kenpurcell Yep 50:50 granulated sugar, powdered sugar [1/17/2020 2:06 PM] canibalcrab We did pumpkins one year [1/17/2020 2:06 PM] canibalcrab It was awful [1/17/2020 2:14 PM] nullinterface I'm sure those tripod-mounted laser engravers that kickstarter ~~hucksters~~ *innovators* keep trying to launch work ***great*** for things like pumpkins [1/18/2020 11:45 AM] joshw0263 A pumpkin pie was rastered a while back no not by me I do not know settings used. [1/18/2020 6:08 PM] michaelb5250 Laser minutes are up, thanks to everyone who came out and helped! https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee_Meeting_Minutes_01182019 {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Laser_Committee_Meeting_Minutes_01182019 Laser Committee Meeting Minutes 01182019 [1/18/2020 6:12 PM] doug.emes Awesome results [1/18/2020 6:14 PM] michaelb5250 Exciting things in store. As Josh pointed out, we just have to make sure we follow through with them. Lots of good intentions have come and gone. [1/19/2020 1:31 PM] nullinterface ``` CO2 - 50, 60, 80, or 120 watt air-cooled, metal/ceramic tube, 10.6 micrometers Fiber - 30 or 50 watt air-cooled, includes collimator, 1065 nm, Beam quality: M2 < 1.1``` nitpicking here, but FFS use consistent units, epilog [1/19/2020 1:32 PM] michaelb5250 Hmm? They used meters both times 😝 {Reactions} 🍠 [1/19/2020 1:33 PM] michaelb5250 For the record [1/19/2020 1:33 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/668538605991362577/JPEG_20200119_133340.jpg?ex=67b8d518&is=67b78398&hm=71216e2144c3f4e70134bff01e7f7afe09d8d45a1bee21eca9db4b7f6f8d8fac& [1/19/2020 1:34 PM] nullinterface so they cut us a sweet discount? [1/19/2020 1:34 PM] michaelb5250 Those are the dual source prices, sorry. We're getting a CO2 only [1/19/2020 1:35 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/668538924276121663/JPEG_20200119_133455.jpg?ex=67b8d564&is=67b783e4&hm=9f676de26a312a40134893450c303365450dd2d585f99f3f816b8b240d070457& [1/19/2020 1:35 PM] nullinterface possible to bolt on a fiber laser later? [1/19/2020 1:35 PM] michaelb5250 I don't see why not, but I haven't asked them yet [1/19/2020 1:48 PM] michaelb5250 They're giving us a good discount though. It's not super hard to calculate with the agenda item and their price sheet I just don't want to advertise cause you know other people will expect the same. I did send the quote to the admin email so I assume you can take a look if you're curious. Everyone at the meeting saw the quote as well. {Reactions} ❤️ [1/19/2020 2:49 PM] michaelb5250 On the dual source, they're going to say no upgrade option for now, they've gotten some indications from corporate that it might be a possibility in the future but nothing for sure. Probably, if we we gather the money and demand to spend on a fiber laser, we'll be willing to just pick up a second machine. 30W fiber almost doubles the price of the laser, so even the upgrade will be big money. [1/19/2020 2:51 PM] michaelb5250 By the way, they're sending quotes and replying to my emails on a Sunday. Engraving Concepts has been great to work with so far. [1/20/2020 12:03 PM] canibalcrab https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/beau-williamson-n5py-sk-passed-away/67475 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/beau-williamson-n5py-sk-passed-away/67475 Beau Williamson N5PY SK passed away Beau, who was a long time DMS member and very active with the laser committee, passed away early yesterday morning. He was also very active with Cisco and amateur radio groups. In amateur radio circles, it is respectful to follow the name of a passed member with their call ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/NHqEtxT5gGuVaNywd1lNNxjsd_tn4upU21cpEyTHujk/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/7/9/7966bd5741b00d3ed3ca836108f0470497497b78_2_563x500.jpeg [1/20/2020 12:03 PM] canibalcrab thats sad [1/21/2020 10:54 AM] nullinterface did some more casual reading on the fiber upgrade and that looks like a *factory* option as opposed to a bolt-on [1/21/2020 10:58 AM] michaelb5250 It's another source. In ULS terms it'd be a drop in module, so if they're trying to compete it will eventually be the same. That being said, the Fusion Pro platform is only a year old, so they're still releasing new software features, and it sounds like a field upgrade to fiber is on their wishlist. [1/21/2020 10:58 AM] michaelb5250 Any particular reason you're interested in the fiber laser? [1/21/2020 11:40 AM] nullinterface I'm no longer interested since I neglected to consider that the wattages where one can cut metal are orders of magnitude greater than this platform offers [1/21/2020 12:12 PM] kenpurcell You can cut metal with CO2 but only once you get upwards of 150 watts. Beam shape and O2 assist gas are very important. Fiber has about 3-10x more absorption so you can "cut" with about 30 watts and up. For both MORE is better. [1/21/2020 12:50 PM] michaelb5250 Cloudray actually sells a head that fits the thunders with autofocus and oxygen assist, it's a bit too pricey for something that's really just a novelty though [1/21/2020 1:18 PM] nullinterface I was thinking *plasma cutter substitute* [1/21/2020 1:19 PM] nullinterface those lasers seem to be in the kW **net** output range {Reactions} 👍 [1/21/2020 9:11 PM] doug.emes Toured IFI / vex robotics and yeah, most metal work done by punches, but they also had a 5kw laser iirc. The "bed" moved instead of the laser. Bed was yardage [1/21/2020 9:15 PM] michaelb5250 Nice! I've got a few friends that work there. They've got some cool toys [1/21/2020 11:33 PM] aceat64 TIL lasers consist of only a lens [1/21/2020 11:33 PM] aceat64 🤣 [1/21/2020 11:34 PM] michaelb5250 I mean, technically, you could cut something with just a lens if you're outside during the day [1/21/2020 11:36 PM] aceat64 I feel like this is something we could get @AGr to actually build and test [1/22/2020 6:45 AM] kenpurcell I have heard of solar pumped fiber lasers. Just not practical ones. [1/22/2020 5:44 PM] joshw0263 Metal shop has a fiber laser waiting for pickup but need expansion to be moved along so they can have space we are to vacate in our move. {Reactions} 🤞 [1/22/2020 9:21 PM] hon1nbo Well it's just the laser itself. Need to contact the other donor for the table. It's been long enough need to make sure it's still available. If not we can find a gantry for it somewhere [1/22/2020 9:21 PM] hon1nbo We need the electrical work mostly. Requires 50A of 480v [1/22/2020 9:21 PM] hon1nbo 3ph [1/22/2020 9:31 PM] michaelb5250 Do you know how many hours are on the lamps? And how big is that transformer y'all have in 102 [1/22/2020 10:08 PM] hon1nbo it's a 90A transformer. Unsure of the lamps, but it has spares included [2/8/2020 2:08 AM] canibalcrab that one time we lasered pumpkins on the FSL and it smelled awful {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/675613826191982602/unknown.png?ex=67b8dd28&is=67b78ba8&hm=be9564d7f340fe5390722e6f0abaae40550b05154e8f83c69ae06b905e55fbd9& [2/8/2020 2:10 AM] canibalcrab and when the laser tube caught fire {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/675614529249476628/unknown.png?ex=67b8ddd0&is=67b78c50&hm=3bc63c897239d29a880ec0ca7b0d5156f975359b21d21657430fd9f67feb4f9c& [2/8/2020 7:10 PM] agr0090 Has anyone tried ceramark on tungsten? [2/16/2020 1:52 PM] agr0090 In the past that layout was not used due to harder access for maintenance behind lasers [2/16/2020 1:53 PM] michaelb5250 That's fair, there's 9" back there but that's not much to walk between. Each laser has 12" between its not too much different than donner at the moment. [2/16/2020 1:54 PM] michaelb5250 Not great but it fits another laser [2/16/2020 1:54 PM] michaelb5250 Worlds most densely packed laser committee space. Big thunder, 2 35s, Fusion 32, the Zing cart, a computer desk and two more work benches for computers (commercially available size but ofc it'd be more fun to roll our own). There's a 9" service space for ducting, a 48" aisle, and space under the desk for the blower if needed. Chillers fit between the lasers. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/678690713046614016/JPEG_20200216_134925.jpg?ex=67b8d9fb&is=67b7887b&hm=e8b72a76b75fcd41f3cae017cbcebdff294666a673dcbdf35620392cb447fc87& [2/16/2020 1:57 PM] agr0090 Nice, has fusion 32 been ordered? [2/16/2020 1:57 PM] michaelb5250 The board has to approve it at the meeting today [2/16/2020 2:00 PM] agr0090 Post here when you schedule work day to rearrange [2/16/2020 2:27 PM] michaelb5250 Will do. Probably early March [2/16/2020 2:30 PM] canibalcrab are those the laser shelves against the walkway? [2/16/2020 2:30 PM] agr0090 How many gallons of paint to make the walls dark gray? [2/16/2020 2:38 PM] michaelb5250 Lol gray all the walls [2/16/2020 2:39 PM] michaelb5250 And yes shelves against the walkway, but not 'shelves' persay. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/678702057091366912/0040635817849_A.jpeg?ex=67b8e48c&is=67b7930c&hm=c5072c1c61f5bea8d52fc6fae78d495cd54b7c8bc3ae3d6da19ff6771d0485c6& [2/16/2020 3:37 PM] kenpurcell ^^ 👍 ^^ [2/17/2020 12:15 PM] scott_blevins 👍🏻👍🏻 [2/17/2020 12:30 PM] scott_blevins Is the Zing on the table next to Big Thunder in the above floor plan?? [2/17/2020 12:31 PM] scott_blevins Design workstations go where? [2/17/2020 12:32 PM] scott_blevins Chillers? Blowers? [2/17/2020 12:32 PM] agr0090 Found these old pics when we planned last layout, I recommend making scale model pieces to physically move around [2/17/2020 12:33 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/679032576056361006/rKZPu1YA8VXitfKdt3aPwnw4V2NSaPZ81bnY2uuHInCVfX5UM_waLHBimYoiIbtGkVAbMgz1dlar54GgJEf11Q4glIfNPG8GJMrz.png?ex=67b96f9d&is=67b81e1d&hm=e633190cce2c10366812de13bee4c20c310ea98f12234d6e4e4f4ae28c7799fc& [2/17/2020 12:33 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/679032605521215554/vg2vN25ELRwC6c7c0FCwwqxfJ2xrGGDpo97EH3pEXLN-aXftlAgGHhLHsO5jjsSQLSNiLQ2I4TC2cKqz5BpvXborFxNHXVBI1-0V.png?ex=67b96fa4&is=67b81e24&hm=1f3cc295c8f2aa9a6f894113b67bea6095f8df342ca9e2dbd784a217722b57a5& [2/17/2020 12:37 PM] agr0090 Also whatever you do never try to have multiple blowers pushing into common exhaust trunk where you depend on one way dampers to prevent backflow, that was a large mistake I made {Reactions} 👍🏻 (2) [2/17/2020 12:39 PM] michaelb5250 Good to know because that definitely was a thought. I would've expected the one way dampers to solve the problems. [2/17/2020 12:40 PM] michaelb5250 Still have approval for those powered ones, so they'll probably go in line but we'll stick with the single existing blower on the Thunders [2/17/2020 12:40 PM] michaelb5250 (powered dampers) [2/17/2020 12:40 PM] michaelb5250 Fusion runs it's own separate exhaust on a 2HP blower that should be here soon. [2/17/2020 12:42 PM] michaelb5250 The zing is that abnormally large cart next to the workbenches. Two computers on the desk, two on the workbenches, and one in the Zing cart (we do have 5 computers already). Chillers are actually in place there just hard to see. two under the desk and the other 35s is between the units. Fusion doesn't use a chiller. {Reactions} 👍🏻 [2/17/2020 12:43 PM] michaelb5250 Fusion blower goes behind it, We'll put thunder's blower on a shelf halfway up the wall. [2/17/2020 12:43 PM] agr0090 This is what I tried with spring loaded dampers, with idea of blower per laser going into common trunk, but there was noticeable leakage, and leaking noxious fumes is very bad so I had to trash all those parts {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/679035173299552276/YDP_fkG-hLPhJKC9ZlZUYUisCyvU0iQQQXvN3I5-mBx97eLltJzhbrs5GnHrlfTysfacL_jz3IjanrUn4oYVmV_YlQ_L1FfUfGvJ.png?ex=67b97209&is=67b82089&hm=d02f8d1c041839d9c192ae6f45c27e345edad3b3c3a9c95e1302f6a24b6e2bda& [2/17/2020 12:43 PM] michaelb5250 That's where those fans came from lol [2/17/2020 12:44 PM] michaelb5250 We'll just stick to one blower per roof exhaust then. That's what Charles has been pushing for as well {Reactions} 👍 [2/17/2020 12:51 PM] scott_blevins How often does that single blower need to be cleaned out if it’s servicing all three thunder lasers? We’ve cleaned it out before when it was completely clogged with debris which got us to wondering how often those things need to be checked. [2/17/2020 12:55 PM] michaelb5250 It'll be approximately above the desk so checking it won't be too hard. {Reactions} 👍🏻 [2/17/2020 12:55 PM] agr0090 I recommend cleaning by throwing it in the dumpster and buying a new one https://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html {Embed} https://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html 70 gallon 2 HP Heavy Duty High Flow High Capacity Dust Collector https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fX-4OUTB2V3AXtTkoxqXo2qnQFxvAnJ7n3FROvxwtew/https/shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/450x450/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/9/7/97869_W3.jpg {Reactions} 👍🏻 😂 [2/17/2020 12:56 PM] michaelb5250 Is that the one that's back there? [2/17/2020 12:56 PM] michaelb5250 But yeah that would get it a lot cleaner than we ever could. [2/17/2020 12:59 PM] agr0090 yeah that the blower that has been used for a long time (only on second one over 6+ years I think), the other laser on its own blower has a slightly smaller blower from a different supplier [2/17/2020 1:08 PM] michaelb5250 We're replacing the smaller one with a 2HP blower from Penn State that was recommended by engraving concepts [2/17/2020 1:12 PM] michaelb5250 We'll check out the thunder blower this weekend. It'd be a good time to replace it [2/18/2020 11:29 PM] michaelb5250 Alright, we've got problems... I thought I had about a month to get this all done [2/18/2020 11:30 PM] michaelb5250 Turns out, the laser's shipping around the 28th and will spend 2-3 days in transit. Soooo about the 5th of march [2/18/2020 11:31 PM] michaelb5250 Bare minimum to move the lasers around is more ducting. [2/18/2020 11:31 PM] canibalcrab Party [2/18/2020 11:31 PM] michaelb5250 Ideal is powered dampers, a 24v AC transformer to open them, ducting, and a shelf to throw the blower up on the wall. [2/18/2020 11:33 PM] michaelb5250 Yup, laser party saturday evening. [2/18/2020 11:33 PM] michaelb5250 @AGr [2/19/2020 12:34 AM] hon1nbo Party hardy [2/19/2020 12:43 AM] michaelb5250 Hey so Jim, how much would I need to bribe you to let us tee into your argon/co2 6-pack for our air guns, instead of using our co2 tank? We use a cylinder every few months right now. [2/19/2020 6:09 AM] hon1nbo Lots of central market bread. That's my current addiction that needs satisfaction. [2/19/2020 6:10 AM] hon1nbo No beer... I still have three Tavour crates that haven't even made it to the beer fridge yet [2/19/2020 6:53 AM] kenpurcell Homemade sourdough? [2/19/2020 7:36 AM] hon1nbo That works [2/19/2020 7:42 AM] michaelb5250 Lol well we can work that out I'm sure. I'll be by tonight and figure out what fittings, valves, and pipe runs we need to make it work. [2/19/2020 7:43 AM] michaelb5250 It looked like the DMS side was all low pressure stuff when I glanced at the system? [2/19/2020 9:04 AM] michaelb5250 Engraving Concepts had reserved a production slot with epilog since we were looking to purchase, so once we accepted the quote they dropped our laser in the slot and let us bypass the 6 week leadtime for new orders. [2/19/2020 9:11 AM] kenpurcell nice [2/19/2020 9:49 AM] hon1nbo @michaelb I can swing in between around 9 or so. The regulators are on the 6 packs themselves, and drop to 150 PSI to plumb into the building. There are a few Tees already, however you'd want to put a new one in since the current setup the ball valves would shut the pressure to the tees when welders are turned off [2/19/2020 9:49 AM] hon1nbo you can run it as the same stuff that is currently used for shop air, or you can run it as pipe [2/19/2020 9:50 AM] hon1nbo we're currently using 1/2" black pipe, so you can get a 1/2" NPT tee fitting with whatever reducer / combination of things you want. [2/19/2020 9:55 AM] michaelb5250 Alright so conduit it is! [2/19/2020 9:56 AM] michaelb5250 Kidding. I was going to run two sets of the black pipe down the wall and out a tee at each laser, one for air one for mix. [2/19/2020 10:01 AM] michaelb5250 Above that we'll mount the ducting to the wall (probably well above the lasers), that'll run to a tee above the desk, up to the blower, on its side and on a shelf about as high as the gray ladder reaches, the exhaust will tie into the existing like 10" duct. That'll give us room to fit the dampers and give me a good starting place for the 'focus plane plenum' I've been talking about adding to the lasers for years. Only other service we need is electrical so we might hang that from the wall behind the lasers on hooks. I'm not a big fan of things laying on the floor permanently. Of course this all depends on how well I can plan and how much work we get done saturday [2/19/2020 10:22 AM] agr0090 do you have a napkin sketch of new ducting routing? [2/19/2020 10:23 AM] agr0090 note that the one coming down by metalshop has two 90s in it with a horizontal run of about 10 feet, the two exchause ports are actually fairly close to each other [2/19/2020 10:23 AM] michaelb5250 Oh that's nice I thought the single exhaust was like way far away [2/19/2020 10:24 AM] agr0090 will the floating desk (mounted on red wall) still be there? [2/19/2020 10:24 AM] michaelb5250 Plan for now is to keep it but shorten it a bit to squeeze beside big thunder [2/19/2020 10:25 AM] agr0090 currently only two brackets and it could move closer to door [2/19/2020 10:25 AM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/679725292738314302/zWH5ElIBn5txFUVPc27T3xrXlT7lhQVY3k0MQxV7EMtX-9pgxHkq_WrHcfHE1bj5o1WvWolTo-pOKcsQ-Kl4MWTCcBJEQeNNUZo-.png?ex=67b951c2&is=67b80042&hm=3c6c6d10173c276d4746495a1dde4f5f857eef0d30c6602bac98a132d5eff1cb& [2/19/2020 10:26 AM] agr0090 Also this is one of the exhausts (closer to metalshop), the reducer was installed higher than I could reach {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/679725418789863431/ThvYs4FG1E1Uv-dl4zfJDZyLkGE7NEF7t3yW4Dit5owWNyUqUGIwrulJmUEZh55AzfRS3caxQX9VEZ_9cpoZHEi7a1rLFO4RpzlW.png?ex=67b951e0&is=67b80060&hm=8ae6e1d8af277c66def160af40574a14e23d7fc6add5b7481c49ec1c9462bfb8& [2/19/2020 10:27 AM] agr0090 I think its going 8 to 6 [2/19/2020 10:29 AM] agr0090 using man lift to make it go 8 all the way to blower would be good [2/19/2020 10:44 AM] michaelb5250 Ill add that too the list. That's the exhaust for the fusion and the plan is just crazy amounts of airflow for it [2/19/2020 10:58 AM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/679733584986112000/JPEG_20200219_105458.jpg?ex=67b9597b&is=67b807fb&hm=3e8835709c178a5770a1454eb1220682b5ce762ee75ec4bbc277df4deb39ea0c& [2/19/2020 10:58 AM] michaelb5250 Not sure if I just double sent the picture.... [2/19/2020 11:01 AM] agr0090 The roof penetrations are the same size I think, so if other is 10" then the reducer might be 10 to 8 or something [2/19/2020 11:31 AM] michaelb5250 There's a lot of trade offs here, namely pressure loss vs cfm and pressure loss vs flow velocity. Since there's lightweight debris in here Id like the keep the velocity up high. I think it's best to stick with 8" on the fusion and keep the 10" on the others. Might mean we have to replace the 6" on the fusion so I'll check that before saturday [2/19/2020 11:56 AM] agr0090 Does that much debris actually make into exhaust stream? If so I can imagine it just floating around in the 30 feet of vertical ducting before roof vent. Could go to roof and inspect around vent if ladder is still unlocked [2/19/2020 12:00 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure yet, i figure we'll see when we take it apart. I have seen a nice layer coating the ducts behind big thunder, and the inlet to the small blower completely caked up a few months ago. [2/19/2020 12:01 PM] michaelb5250 One consideration, instead of a right angle at the base we could put a tee and cap it. Like water in an air system all the debris would fall down into the cap and could be cleaned out {Reactions} 👍 [2/20/2020 5:14 PM] michaelb5250 The new blower should arrive tomorrow via UPS, so we'll be able to install it this weekend [2/20/2020 5:15 PM] michaelb5250 I'm going to make an initial home depot run tomorrow evening, probably another after the meeting saturday if we figure out anything that was forgotten. [2/20/2020 5:56 PM] michaelb5250 I'm curious how people would react if I didn't put a CO2 nozzle next to the fusion and just told them, 'if you think it might catch fire, don't do it'. [2/20/2020 5:59 PM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/680201925936807945/cl.gif?ex=67b91368&is=67b7c1e8&hm=d0788dff9511cd802e7bf4cc3144bf31341422a4eba7c12f80fedfabdd28a98a& [2/20/2020 6:02 PM] agr0090 How often are people setting their material ablaze? [2/20/2020 6:04 PM] michaelb5250 Afaik virtually never. The CO2 was out for over a month, iirc two people reported it and no one admitted to needing it [2/20/2020 6:05 PM] agr0090 thats good, seems like having a full scale red co2 extinguisher mounted on every laser should be sufficient [2/20/2020 6:06 PM] canibalcrab The puff guns that use co2 cartridges should be sufficient [2/20/2020 6:06 PM] michaelb5250 That's what pearce and I were thinking of. If the fire's bad enough to need extinguishing, just use the extinguisher. [2/20/2020 6:08 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, yeah forgot you mentioned that. I'd rather just run compressed air to the nozzles before using cartridges. [2/20/2020 6:45 PM] andrew5152 https://fr.myzoo.design/pages/video-dassemblage {Embed} https://fr.myzoo.design/pages/video-dassemblage Vidéo d'assemblage Vidéo d'assemblage [2/20/2020 8:57 PM] andrew5152 arg! people are practicing singing in the hallway [2/20/2020 8:57 PM] yashsedai whyyyyyy [2/20/2020 8:57 PM] andrew5152 I guess the soundbooths are rented out? [2/20/2020 8:57 PM] andrew5152 😄 [2/20/2020 8:58 PM] andrew5152 why did I put that video in laser? [2/20/2020 8:58 PM] andrew5152 sorry! [2/21/2020 7:58 PM] michaelacks6 Anyone from team laser around? [2/21/2020 7:58 PM] michaelacks6 Big thunder is acting up. Can't get it to move full y [2/21/2020 7:58 PM] michaelacks6 Stops after 1000mm [2/21/2020 7:59 PM] michaelb5250 Try turning it off and on again lol [2/21/2020 7:59 PM] michaelb5250 Thats been the trick for blitzen recently [2/21/2020 8:00 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb did it a few times [2/21/2020 8:00 PM] michaelb5250 Otherwise, i told myself I would head up there soon, so I can come take a look [2/21/2020 8:00 PM] michaelacks6 It's almost like it's not fully resetting [2/21/2020 8:00 PM] michaelb5250 Dammit. Gimme ~20 minutes? [2/21/2020 8:00 PM] michaelacks6 Rgr. Thanks [2/21/2020 8:04 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, did you check the rotary option? [2/21/2020 8:04 PM] michaelacks6 Switch is off [2/21/2020 8:05 PM] michaelb5250 In RDWorks [2/21/2020 8:05 PM] michaelb5250 Go to the rotary box and click read, see if it checks itself on [2/21/2020 8:05 PM] michaelacks6 Enable rotary engrave is unchecked [2/21/2020 8:05 PM] michaelacks6 It does [2/21/2020 8:05 PM] michaelacks6 Check itself [2/21/2020 8:06 PM] michaelb5250 Uncheck, click write [2/21/2020 8:06 PM] michaelacks6 Success [2/21/2020 8:07 PM] michaelacks6 Thank you!! [2/21/2020 8:11 PM] michaelb5250 That's like the first thing to check, I totally spaced [2/21/2020 8:11 PM] michaelacks6 I was aware of the checkbox ...was not of read/write [2/21/2020 8:11 PM] michaelacks6 So I appreciate it [2/21/2020 9:48 PM] michaelb5250 New blower arrived, it is quite powerful [2/21/2020 9:50 PM] canibalcrab I heard it sucks though [2/21/2020 9:50 PM] michaelb5250 It's very good at sucking [2/21/2020 10:32 PM] yashsedai thats what she said [2/21/2020 11:38 PM] ferricyanide7475 he* said [2/21/2020 11:50 PM] yashsedai lol [2/22/2020 2:25 PM] michaelb5250 @stephenie didn't you do office hours? [2/22/2020 2:26 PM] michaelb5250 Kris is looking at doing them again. Any tips? [2/22/2020 2:40 PM] michaelb5250 @yashsedai we're wondering if we can pull login data from the laser computers, maybe a better way to track peak usage time [2/22/2020 2:41 PM] yashsedai I think we could [2/22/2020 2:41 PM] yashsedai Lemme have a look [2/22/2020 2:42 PM] yashsedai If you dont get an answer today please pester a reminder [2/22/2020 3:14 PM] michaelb5250 Kris Wong doing office hours sorry for the confusjon [2/22/2020 3:58 PM] stephenie. We have login capture files [2/22/2020 5:36 PM] stephenie. I loved office hours! [2/22/2020 5:40 PM] stephenie. Best tip: whenever possible, let the person do the driving. Sometimes you have to use the mouse or key pad to demonstrate, but undo what you did and have that person repeat the clicks. [2/22/2020 5:40 PM] stephenie. Brace yourself for the gratitude! People are thankful. {Reactions} 👍🏻 [2/22/2020 6:00 PM] michaelb5250 Thanks! Good to have someone motivated enough to do it lol [2/23/2020 11:27 AM] agr0090 Using 2 pieces of 2x4 in an L with plywood on outsideedges as gusset(with 3 inch radius) might make better supports for ducting than zipties [2/23/2020 12:16 PM] agr0090 Also is there any extra drywall laying around DMS? [2/23/2020 7:54 PM] agr0090 Headed to dms [2/23/2020 8:10 PM] michaelb5250 Awesome. Big thunder is almost running {Reactions} 👍 [2/24/2020 1:10 AM] michaelb5250 Big thunder is up, blitzen will be up by the end of the week. Needs some blower control work. Donner needs a power supply but we'll get everything else plugged in over the next few weeks. Need to order another blower for the fusion since we used it's blower for thunders, mount it up at the ceiling and run the ducting. Good news is fusion fits in the space. [2/24/2020 1:12 AM] agr0090 I put some not operational signs on them to avoid confusion [2/24/2020 12:46 PM] michaelb5250 Hey if anyone's around the space today there's an amazon box and a UPS in the common room for laser, they need to find their way back to the committee area. I won't be back for a few days [2/24/2020 2:30 PM] michaelb5250 Automation Direct has an 'Arduino in a box' PLC that would be fun to play with for the ventilation. [2/24/2020 2:33 PM] agr0090 but can you order it from amazon? [2/24/2020 2:34 PM] agr0090 not prime shipping, https://www.amazon.com/PLC-Controller-Controllino-100-100-00-Arduino-Compatible/dp/B0107XC1U6 [2/24/2020 2:34 PM] agr0090 could simplify having all signals going into that instead of a bunch of different hand wired relays [2/24/2020 2:53 PM] michaelb5250 https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/programmable_controllers/open_source_controllers_(arduino-compatible)/productivityopen_(arduino-compatible)/controllers_-a-_shields/p1am-100 That's the idea. Easier to track laser on hours too [2/24/2020 3:05 PM] agr0090 how do you turn presence of 120 or 208 AC on a line to a digital input [2/24/2020 3:07 PM] canibalcrab If line = shocking Then yes [2/24/2020 3:07 PM] agr0090 The stick a cheap usb power brick on it to generate 5v from 120/208 seems hacky [2/24/2020 3:07 PM] michaelb5250 I mean its a pretty good solution, even if it seems hack [2/24/2020 3:07 PM] michaelb5250 I'm expecting most AC input Solid State Relays to take the full voltage range [2/24/2020 3:08 PM] michaelb5250 Amazon has one for $10 that does 70-300Vac in and 24-480v out. Since we've already got 24Vac for the dampers we can use that. The automation direct line has 24v AC input modules [2/24/2020 3:09 PM] michaelb5250 Phone chargers are far cheaper lol [2/24/2020 3:10 PM] agr0090 Should order a few extra and then video just putting 208 AC into the digital input line and see what happens [2/24/2020 3:11 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure how these react, the ones I used at an old job just popped and didn't work anymore. I think the connectors would pop off if they had the removable kind [2/24/2020 3:58 PM] yashsedai So the output of the laser is 208 right? [2/24/2020 3:59 PM] agr0090 Control signal out for blower / air assist is 208 on 2 of them and 120 on other one [2/24/2020 3:59 PM] yashsedai Get a contactor like this, [2/24/2020 3:59 PM] yashsedai https://www.grainger.com/product/EATON-208-240VAC-Definite-Purpose-49C062?cm_sp=Product_Details-_-Products_Based_on_Your_Search-_-IDPPLARECS&cm_vc=IDPPLARECS {Embed} https://www.grainger.com/product/EATON-208-240VAC-Definite-Purpose-49C062?cm_sp=Product_Details-_-Products_Based_on_Your_Search-_-IDPPLARECS&cm_vc=IDPPLARECS 208/240VAC Definite Purpose Contactor; No. of Poles 1, 30 Full Load... Definit Prpose Cntactr, 208/240VAC, 30A, 1P https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/A-DJS7qE6lLug97wM-0NbOlLEc1CYNMdFsI_Q1kiOfQ/https/static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/49C057_AS01 [2/24/2020 3:59 PM] yashsedai 208 is the coil voltage [2/24/2020 3:59 PM] yashsedai run your control signal across the mains [2/24/2020 3:59 PM] yashsedai same for the 120 [2/24/2020 4:00 PM] yashsedai you need a contactor with 120v coils [2/24/2020 4:01 PM] yashsedai https://www.grainger.com/product/EATON-120VAC-Definite-Purpose-Contactor-49C049 {Embed} https://www.grainger.com/product/EATON-120VAC-Definite-Purpose-Contactor-49C049 120VAC Definite Purpose Contactor; No. of Poles 1, 25 Full Load Amp... Definit Prpose Cntctr, 120VAC, 25A, 1P, Open https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/2MvPJ2I4Mfb4vYE-zgD-zKYLrM1CNuKrBIvk29UXbhM/https/static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/49C048_AS01 [2/24/2020 4:02 PM] michaelb5250 I'd rather not have a mix of coil voltages. Imagine rearranging the lasers, switching plugs around and suddenly blowing up a relay because you plugged a 208v laser into a 120v input on the control box. [2/24/2020 4:03 PM] michaelb5250 Most solid state relays that have an AC input will handle the full voltage range [2/24/2020 4:03 PM] yashsedai lol this is why you make lables [2/24/2020 4:03 PM] yashsedai and don't put plugs [2/24/2020 4:04 PM] yashsedai solid state relays imo are not the answer, to each their own [2/24/2020 4:22 PM] ferricyanide7475 labels.... have you met some of our membership? [2/24/2020 4:35 PM] yashsedai i have, but the not putting plugs on the end is much more likely to control the situation [2/24/2020 4:56 PM] hon1nbo What about current sensing relays rather than typical control coils? [2/24/2020 4:57 PM] agr0090 that would skip the dependency on the TLtimer circuit and relays inside the lasers to know when they are firing [2/24/2020 5:01 PM] agr0090 of note, we have had the thunder TLtimer become unreliable multiple times [2/24/2020 6:19 PM] yashsedai Suggest you have some logic that looks for the laser to be on, keeps the blower on until the laser goes off + 10 minutes [2/24/2020 6:31 PM] michaelb5250 Yes, there's definitely some coordination to avoid unnecessary restarts [2/24/2020 6:31 PM] michaelb5250 @ferricyanide not only have I met them, I've labeled them too {Reactions} 🤣 [2/25/2020 2:39 PM] michaelb5250 New laser has shipped. [2/25/2020 2:40 PM] michaelb5250 Scheduled delivery is... Tomorrow. [2/25/2020 2:41 PM] michaelb5250 That's... Unexpected [2/25/2020 2:41 PM] andrew5152 ZOOM! [2/25/2020 2:42 PM] agr0090 isn't their distribution center in arlington? or is that just a showroom? [2/25/2020 2:42 PM] michaelb5250 Just the local company that does sales, but they dont do any stock. Lasers are built to order and shipped from Colorado [2/25/2020 2:44 PM] michaelb5250 I'm gonna go finish ducting for donner since I have the day off work. For now we can drop it in place of Donner and I'll have to wire a switch for the exhaust system [2/25/2020 2:45 PM] agr0090 as in physical light switch? there are a bunch in black plastic tub [2/25/2020 2:45 PM] michaelb5250 Yup. That's what they used at engraving concepts lol [2/25/2020 2:45 PM] michaelb5250 I guess that's what zing used too [2/25/2020 2:50 PM] agr0090 Can you experiment with attaching a ceiling tile to a 2x4 with some screws (making like a ceiling tile popsicle, could be either horizontal or vertical orientation) and then screwing 2x4 to front edge of shelf in front of blower? should take just 5 minutes to experiment with that to see what it does to sound across shop [2/25/2020 2:52 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/681966893573210201/unknown.png?ex=67b8e7a9&is=67b79629&hm=4a557452b63d25fa9ecd602014a3653cfb5fc688604eaaa86c8e772aac2f2737& [2/25/2020 3:01 PM] hon1nbo if we're gonna do that I'll check if I have any leftover acoustic foam [2/25/2020 3:02 PM] hon1nbo would be about that size if I do since it would have been for a subwoofer pad [2/25/2020 3:06 PM] michaelb5250 I can do that and just see what happens [2/25/2020 7:27 PM] michaelb5250 Lol so I never put that TV up on the wall and today John stopped me while he was teaching, told me he loved the cart idea and asked if we could get another one. [2/25/2020 7:28 PM] michaelb5250 I did not get a chance to do anything today the laser was busy af. I'll probably have to schedule a maintenance window this week to run ducting for donner and blower control for blitzen. [2/25/2020 7:29 PM] agr0090 Is that a cart that just floats around DMS? [2/25/2020 7:30 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, Patrick has been using it in the pillar room for watching tv iirc [2/25/2020 7:33 PM] agr0090 Easier to buy cart and mount existing tv on it than above ducting on wall [2/25/2020 7:35 PM] michaelb5250 Yup absolutely [2/26/2020 5:38 PM] michaelb5250 Other laser fun. Keep zing down for 2-3 weeks or kludge it into existing ventilation system? [2/26/2020 5:39 PM] agr0090 keep zing down [2/26/2020 5:42 PM] canibalcrab Will the new one be semi up? [2/26/2020 5:42 PM] agr0090 getting damper control functional seems higher priority [2/26/2020 7:04 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/682392684966576163/JPEG_20200226_190447.jpg?ex=67b922b6&is=67b7d136&hm=d0eb82b90235da63ee42b7e6711c036a50d00aebcd9217f68a75c46d6de3f4eb& [2/26/2020 7:05 PM] agr0090 It came with ramps to uncrate itself? [2/26/2020 7:06 PM] michaelb5250 Yup [2/26/2020 7:06 PM] agr0090 Wow, much better than what you get from china [2/26/2020 7:06 PM] nullinterface Determined that it can be rolled from 102 to 104? [2/26/2020 7:07 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/682393274077675537/JPEG_20200226_190706.jpg?ex=67b92342&is=67b7d1c2&hm=7787bfc22f7681f88b3210db45d029c2184e2ecbda752c2636574e3346c3e468& [2/26/2020 7:08 PM] agr0090 Who is spanning that far in a table with only a 2x4? {Reactions} 👍 [2/26/2020 7:09 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/682393803495047228/JPEG_20200226_190914.jpg?ex=67b923c1&is=67b7d241&hm=79157b32d690751e00afaba1bf903dee7ad1ee29ef37d36b666f53ea702548ab& [2/26/2020 7:09 PM] canibalcrab @AGr someone storing personal shit in 102 [2/26/2020 7:11 PM] agr0090 Is it 35 inches wide? [2/26/2020 7:11 PM] agr0090 Put some cardboard around it [2/26/2020 7:12 PM] nullinterface But YOLO'ing it is more exciting {Reactions} 🍻 [2/26/2020 7:13 PM] sewingstuff2561 I think the sensible thing would be to dumpster the personal shit since people have been told and told not to do that. [2/26/2020 7:42 PM] michaelb5250 Got it through [2/26/2020 7:43 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/682402459234205725/JPEG_20200226_194336.jpg?ex=67b92bd0&is=67b7da50&hm=3f4e3b655936c571f1b5edb968c0a07a7dcf74299d84cb34a2916300c8c3e32a& {Reactions} 😍 [2/26/2020 7:43 PM] aceat64 If it gets stuck anywhere just declare that the new laser area {Reactions} 👍 (3) [2/27/2020 1:19 AM] michaelb5250 Ok, remaining tasks... -Ventilation Control System (parts here monday) -Desk cleared off -Donner Computer -Fusion Computer (In laser cabinet) -Donner Damper+Ducting -Fusion Blower (mount on wall) -Fusion Ducting -Fusion Blower Switch (120v switch near laser?) -Fusion Power (NEMA L6-15R needed) [2/27/2020 1:22 AM] michaelb5250 I think that's it. They all have Air, Chillers, Power, and CO2 as of tonight. Most of the ducting for Donner is done just need the last damper from Rich. [2/27/2020 1:23 AM] michaelb5250 Fusion needs to be ready by saturday morning for training so if it comes to it I'll steal the blower back from JSM and kludge it together. Hopefully the real blower shows up friday and it can be in place for real [2/27/2020 1:28 AM] michaelb5250 I had one person begging to use the Zing but it's just going to be down for 2-3 weeks while the exhaust shows up. Anyone that needs it and is a regular user can get Fusion training and start working with that. Otherwise they're just sol. {Reactions} 🍻 (2) [2/27/2020 12:43 PM] agr0090 by steal blower back you mean the white one? [2/27/2020 12:49 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah. Easiest one to power temporarily [2/27/2020 12:52 PM] michaelb5250 But, the UPS claims the new blower will arrive tomorrow, so hopefully not a problem [2/27/2020 12:53 PM] agr0090 is there another 208 plug on that wall or will it just be an extension going to the 208 plug the other blower is plugged into right now? [2/27/2020 12:54 PM] michaelb5250 That's all we've got so it'll have to be an extension going to the other blower [2/27/2020 12:54 PM] agr0090 is it a 30 amp circuit? [2/27/2020 12:54 PM] michaelb5250 It is [2/27/2020 12:54 PM] michaelb5250 So, 8 amps per blower and then blitzen, donner, and the fusion. Hopefully it's enough and the motor inrush doesn't trip breakers... [2/27/2020 1:36 PM] agr0090 to clean desks / tables in laser area just pile everything on top of the old big thunder in warehouse [2/27/2020 1:45 PM] michaelb5250 Lol true, but it's already got a bunch of junk so have to clean it off first [2/27/2020 1:45 PM] agr0090 Does laser need a 2'x6.5'x6.5' tall shelving unit? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-77-in-W-x-78-in-H-x-24-in-D-4-Shelf-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-with-Wire-Deck-in-Black-ERZ782478W-4/202251082 {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-77-in-W-x-78-in-H-x-24-in-D-4-Shelf-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-with-Wire-Deck-in-Black-ERZ782478W-4/202251082 Husky 77 in. W x 78 in. H x 24 in. D 4-Shelf Welded Steel Garage St... Organize your garage, workshop or jobsite with this Husky 4-Shelf Welded Steel Garage Storage Shelving Unit with Wire Deck in Black. Easy to install. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/91a4MY6dhUYWCt8sAmtIBApgPunzQEoq_B9SkWTxfOI/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/c85d4fce-39f1-44b2-99d6-41c8a9457a73/svn/black-husky-freestanding-shelving-units-erz782478w-4-64_300.jpg [2/27/2020 1:50 PM] agr0090 I have an extra and I'm trying to con someone into picking it up from my garage since I need it removed before monday [2/27/2020 1:50 PM] agr0090 it could fit against wall behind the table thats next to roll up door or in warehouse [2/27/2020 1:58 PM] nullinterface I *might* be able to take that off your hands [2/27/2020 2:05 PM] michaelb5250 Probably would push the table too far in to the walkway [2/27/2020 2:07 PM] michaelb5250 Hey how does the zing interlock work? We need it to run without the box/blast gate/switch setup... [2/27/2020 2:16 PM] agr0090 I think there is some writing on tape on the box, would have to inspect it [2/27/2020 2:17 PM] michaelb5250 Ok, I'll take a look tonight [2/27/2020 2:26 PM] agr0090 this picture is all the documentation I have, I don't remember the wiring {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/682685052177481797/ossPJaHnfkwa9Qd91FE6mzD0eUZ7lor84ejJXnSglOTZbxTeJUadaaqh9JLZiPqnJJuLcVDo70RDEgn0_oxcZTbAeUT7qUpbmGKL.png?ex=67b8e180&is=67b79000&hm=8cc986db6350e37af22ebd5dc67a33a200390ff57e1223e5e9e597f39328d780& [2/27/2020 2:36 PM] michaelb5250 10/10 documentation [2/27/2020 2:36 PM] michaelb5250 no worries we'll get it figured out [2/28/2020 12:18 PM] michaelb5250 Blower should be here today, so goals for tonight are: -Mount blower above fusion -Run ducting -Temporarily power blower -get fusion computer on the desk (incl. mounting the monitor somehow since we don't have the stand) -connect fusion and computer to network [2/28/2020 12:25 PM] hon1nbo is the fusion being driven by the network or by USB? If network do you have it separated from ours? [2/28/2020 12:26 PM] hon1nbo People can and do stupid shit on our network; I wouldn't trust the machine on the network at this time until we can segment the ports [2/28/2020 12:27 PM] agr0090 Note there is a horizontal run of ducting resting on the drop ceiling to get to the ducting coming down along the wall next to metalshop door. Although there is nowhere else to really put the ducting other than where it is now [2/28/2020 12:28 PM] agr0090 I have to prep my garage for powerwall install on monday so I can't help tonight {Reactions} 👍 [2/28/2020 12:31 PM] michaelb5250 It's designed to be connected over ethernet, which is the same as the Zing [2/28/2020 12:33 PM] michaelb5250 Are you going solar with the powerwall? [2/28/2020 12:33 PM] agr0090 is the software available online such that anyone could install it on their laptop and then run the laser? [2/28/2020 12:33 PM] agr0090 yeah 7.53kw of panels, my roof is really horrible for solar [2/28/2020 12:34 PM] agr0090 so most of my panels are facing either east or west [2/28/2020 12:34 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, you can pick up the software online. A couple members run Zing off their own computer. [2/28/2020 12:35 PM] michaelb5250 We don't advertise it though so it's pretty much limited to people who are clever enough to figure it out or have their own epilog machines they run [2/28/2020 12:35 PM] michaelb5250 at the end of the day, I'm not worried about either of those groups causing problems with the machines. [2/28/2020 1:32 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb network driven straight from the computer, or on the network via the switch? [2/28/2020 1:32 PM] hon1nbo we've had someone break some machine ops recently with stupid crap line nmapping the network [2/28/2020 1:32 PM] hon1nbo and the damn pwnagotchis people are making breaking the wifi for people [2/28/2020 1:35 PM] michaelb5250 Switch is the plan. The computer isn't set up for wifi right now so it'd be a pain to try and run a seperate network and still be on the domain. [2/28/2020 1:35 PM] hon1nbo yeah that's a no-go [2/28/2020 1:35 PM] hon1nbo we're not gonna risk a 5 figure purchase on our network [2/28/2020 1:36 PM] hon1nbo snag a cheap USB ethernet adapter to setup a second network interface on the computer [2/28/2020 1:36 PM] hon1nbo or a wifi adapter [2/28/2020 1:36 PM] hon1nbo IDC [2/28/2020 1:36 PM] hon1nbo as long as that laser isn't on the general DMS network [2/28/2020 1:36 PM] hon1nbo I can get you guys a managed switch drop which will allow tagging the machines away from the general network, but that isn't going to happen right away [2/28/2020 1:38 PM] hon1nbo for some examples: dynatorch is a private network, multicam has mitigating controls on it's networking for the controller, RFID interlocks are an entirely different network. [2/28/2020 1:38 PM] hon1nbo you can do a link local network between the machine and a USB ethernet adapter on the computer [2/28/2020 1:38 PM] hon1nbo static IPs on each, doesn't have to be routable outside of it [2/28/2020 1:43 PM] hon1nbo looking at the manual it's intended for static linkage anyway https://www.epiloglaser.com/assets/downloads/manuals/fusion-manual-web.pdf [2/28/2020 1:44 PM] hon1nbo page 26 [2/28/2020 1:44 PM] hon1nbo and page 16 [2/28/2020 1:44 PM] michaelb5250 I do not understand your reasoning. With no knowledge of the laser or how its control system operates, you're assuming that putting on the DMS network will risk $10k+ in damages? If that's possible, it sounds like we should just never put anything on the network. That's the most secure answer. [2/28/2020 1:45 PM] hon1nbo to quote the manual: " Your Epilog Laser has all of the versatility of a network capable peripheral. As such, there are many different ways that the laser can be connected to a computer or a network**. A direct connection using a crossover cable is the only method that will be described in this manual.** Connect the crossover cable (included in the accessories kit) to the Ethernet port, located at the back of the machine. Plug the cable into the Ethernet port on the laser, then plug the other end into the Ethernet port on your computer." [2/28/2020 1:45 PM] hon1nbo Michael, this is *literally* my job [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] agr0090 with physical access they could burn down DMS, but at least they would be on video, I guess with general network someone could be in parking lot and send malicious commands or start it firing? [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo I test industrial machinery all the time [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo industrial hardware network interfaces do *not* like being poked in unintended ways [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo and people like poking things on our network [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo I'm not worried about someone being malicious [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] nullinterface *and people like poking things on our network* boy howdy [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo I'm worried about the fact people like to nmap our network [2/28/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo and even nmap breaks industrial equipment pretty often [2/28/2020 1:47 PM] hon1nbo it can be done safely through VLAN tagging etc, but that is not in place [2/28/2020 1:47 PM] hon1nbo the switches over in laser right now do not support this [2/28/2020 1:47 PM] hon1nbo I don't mind getting you those switches that do and setting them up [2/28/2020 1:47 PM] agr0090 crossover cable with a cable channel along floor seems easy [2/28/2020 1:47 PM] hon1nbo but that wouldn't be running today [2/28/2020 1:48 PM] hon1nbo hell we had a factory burst into flames from a friggin port scan, twice. the first time was because someone ran nmap. The second was because the people that heard about it didn't believe it, *so they promptly decided to try and connect to the unit and see what happens* [2/28/2020 1:49 PM] hon1nbo I'm not worried about dmg to the DMS network, I'm worried about this machine being damaged by someone doing something with our network [2/28/2020 1:49 PM] agr0090 it has both ethernet and usb option for connection? [2/28/2020 1:49 PM] hon1nbo or the network getting malware running through it [2/28/2020 1:49 PM] hon1nbo @AGr it does [2/28/2020 1:50 PM] michaelb5250 I get that your job is securing very highly protected networks, I just want to point out that DMS is not the class of system that you probably deal with. I'm concerned that the network here is going to become some overly secure system that makes it extremely difficult to use. That's great for large corporations or systems that people actively try to break, but we're a makerspace and those security protocols could easily become more overhead than any of us want to deal with. [2/28/2020 1:50 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb my job isn't just highly protected networks [2/28/2020 1:50 PM] hon1nbo it's reasonable risk [2/28/2020 1:50 PM] hon1nbo putting a very expensive laser on the network is cool, but an unecessary risk [2/28/2020 1:50 PM] hon1nbo that has a good chance of the machine breaking [2/28/2020 1:50 PM] hon1nbo I have no intention of heavily securing this network [2/28/2020 1:51 PM] hon1nbo but it is my job to prevent our fancy equipment from breaking [2/28/2020 1:51 PM] hon1nbo I can't stop malicious actions due to the nature of our operations [2/28/2020 1:51 PM] hon1nbo but I can prevent some idiot that decides to run a scanner for the fun of it from breaking our shit [2/28/2020 1:51 PM] nullinterface aren't the thunders presently USB-controlled by their respective workstations anyway? [2/28/2020 1:51 PM] hon1nbo remember my job is *reasonable risk* [2/28/2020 1:51 PM] hon1nbo not high security [2/28/2020 1:52 PM] hon1nbo I do networks of all sizes for my work; heck I even had a public school recently where I could have broken them any which way, but the only ones I cared about were the ones that were absolutely trivial to exploit with critical damange. Not *some nation state is gonna drop this complex chain of exploits over a 3 month campaign* [2/28/2020 1:53 PM] hon1nbo but rather *hey this wireless network you can literally sniff the credentials over the air with free software and zero effort, that's a problem for your data compliance for the students who are minors" [2/28/2020 1:54 PM] hon1nbo this machine is designed to be on networks where you either have other industrial machinery on a separate network, or people are employees where it's not common for someone to decide to run a scanner on the network for the lulz like we have here [2/28/2020 1:54 PM] michaelb5250 Better plan. Anyone that wants to use it can run it from their laptop. Problem solved. [2/28/2020 1:55 PM] hon1nbo fine with me, but I don't see why we can't just do the direct connection *like the manual advises* [2/28/2020 1:56 PM] michaelb5250 I have to have it running tomorrow morning and I can't do that with the existing computer unless it's either a) on the DMS network or b) someone else can provide a network adapter. [2/28/2020 1:56 PM] hon1nbo it's a $10 adapter [2/28/2020 1:56 PM] hon1nbo I'll friggin prime now one to the space [2/28/2020 1:56 PM] hon1nbo or you can get it at microcenter [2/28/2020 1:56 PM] hon1nbo whatever IDC [2/28/2020 1:57 PM] agr0090 what happens saturday morning? [2/28/2020 1:57 PM] hon1nbo two routes for an adapter: wifi the computer, or a USB ethernet adapter for the laser; I'd go the ethernet adapter. PRetty much the same cost and better performance for the machine [2/28/2020 1:57 PM] hon1nbo heck I may have one here you can just take [2/28/2020 1:57 PM] michaelb5250 Engraving Concepts shows up to do the training and install [2/28/2020 1:59 PM] hon1nbo checked my bin, got a free USB ethernet adapter for laser [2/28/2020 1:59 PM] hon1nbo I can drop it off [2/28/2020 1:59 PM] michaelb5250 I barely have time to think at the moment I'm not keen on going out and buying an Ethernet adapter at the moment [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] hon1nbo as I just said I have one on hand and can drop it off [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] michaelb5250 Zing has been on the network for >1 year without issue. Engraving concepts actually runs their lasers on the network and not directly connected. [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] hon1nbo the zing being on the network is news to me [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] michaelb5250 Awesome, sorry, bad service in the building at work [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] hon1nbo but networking controllers on embedded devices in machine is unpredictable [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] hon1nbo some handle stupid crap just fine, others do not [2/28/2020 2:01 PM] hon1nbo the way network scanners work is by sending traffic that doesn't meet the protocol spec [2/28/2020 2:02 PM] hon1nbo some systems handle bad packets gracefully.... others not so much [2/28/2020 2:02 PM] hon1nbo and them running it on their network is common... but they aren't makerspace [2/28/2020 2:02 PM] hon1nbo with members doing stupid stuff on the network because they aren't beholden to a manager etc [2/28/2020 2:02 PM] hon1nbo anyway I'll have a proper switch with VLAN support for you guys in the near future [2/28/2020 2:02 PM] hon1nbo and that will allow you to do whatever [2/28/2020 2:03 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, I've been around industrial Ethernet parts for years, Siemens, wago, Allen Bradley, GE and not had issues so it's a surprise. [2/28/2020 2:04 PM] michaelb5250 But hey if you can get us a vlan and we'll just setup the desktops to work on both yhat'll be awesome [2/28/2020 2:04 PM] hon1nbo yeah it's because they have networks where they control what's going on [2/28/2020 2:04 PM] hon1nbo it's different when you have all the unknown variables [2/28/2020 2:04 PM] hon1nbo and those Siemens and AB units fail particularly hard when that happens [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] michaelb5250 No I mean I designed and set up several of those networks. I've actually run nmap on a few of them 😝 [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] hon1nbo and what flags were used... that's what makes the difference here [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] hon1nbo there is a proper way to nmap them [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] hon1nbo but not the way people here are [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] hon1nbo or they're using masscan [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] michaelb5250 We were building equipment with S7-414H's when stuxnet came about [2/28/2020 2:05 PM] hon1nbo one person ran nessus on the network because they could [2/28/2020 2:06 PM] hon1nbo ugh I was just dealing with some of those a couple months ago [2/28/2020 2:06 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah pretty calm stuff like ping scans iirc. Not my personal favorite 'nmap -sT -O' [2/28/2020 2:07 PM] hon1nbo that '-sT' is your saving grace [2/28/2020 2:07 PM] hon1nbo it means it does a TCP full connect, rather than half-open and broken states [2/28/2020 2:07 PM] hon1nbo which is what kills most of these things [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] michaelb5250 Ahh, go figure [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] hon1nbo if you leave that off nmap tries to use raw packets to manipulate the destination socket to get more information out of devices [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] hon1nbo yup [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] hon1nbo some devices still don't like even the full connection states if you move too fast [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] hon1nbo but that's less common [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] hon1nbo it's the broken state machine that the devices aren't expecting, since they aren't expecting anything other than HMIs and engineers to connect to it [2/28/2020 2:08 PM] michaelb5250 A&M was able to drop you from wifi or blacklist your Mac address if they picked up a scan/packet storm/etc [2/28/2020 2:09 PM] hon1nbo yeah it's doable, but usually they are based on volume [2/28/2020 2:09 PM] hon1nbo and takes cycles to kick in after making that determination [2/28/2020 2:09 PM] hon1nbo so whatever was already hit was alread yhit [2/28/2020 2:09 PM] hon1nbo those systems are looking and see that the connections are never finished etc [2/28/2020 2:10 PM] hon1nbo they have fancier switches and monitoring systems that can support that [2/28/2020 2:10 PM] hon1nbo unfortunately not in our budget [2/28/2020 2:10 PM] michaelb5250 Made for an interesting tech support discussion one day. The poor kids working the help desk didn't realize they did that and were certain my laptop was having wifi issues. [2/28/2020 2:10 PM] hon1nbo lawl [2/28/2020 2:10 PM] hon1nbo my ISP once flagged me; I explained what I did and never heard from them until I swapped my modem [2/28/2020 2:10 PM] hon1nbo they tagged my MAC apparently [2/28/2020 2:11 PM] michaelb5250 I finally spoofed the Mac from my weird adapter onto my wireless and it connected immediately. Made them go back and talk to the network engineer who took my Mac off the blacklist and said 'never do that again' [2/28/2020 2:11 PM] hon1nbo anyway I'll have that adapter over today [2/28/2020 2:11 PM] hon1nbo it's a little Lenovo ethernet adapter [2/28/2020 2:12 PM] michaelb5250 That'd be great. If we need to pick up a layer 3 switch or something let me know. Do you think our desktops will be able to use a tagged vlan? Love to be able to get to both vlans with the single Ethernet cable [2/28/2020 2:15 PM] hon1nbo absolutely [2/28/2020 2:15 PM] hon1nbo as for the switch you don't need a layer 3 [2/28/2020 2:15 PM] hon1nbo there are managed layer 2 switches where you can tag the VLANs [2/28/2020 2:16 PM] hon1nbo we may have a Cisco around, or we can use something more basic like a Netgear Prosafe (which are cheap too). Infra would have to manage it since it can hop VLANs but you'd be able to have ports tagged as needed [2/28/2020 2:18 PM] hon1nbo something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M1C0186/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_wvxwEb9X6R6M3 [2/28/2020 2:18 PM] hon1nbo actually even better: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Managed-Switch/dp/B00R92CI20/ref=dp_ob_title_ce?th=1 [2/28/2020 2:19 PM] hon1nbo 16 port now available and wall mounted [2/28/2020 2:26 PM] nullinterface speaking of networks, nothing like being advised to dump the entirety of Juniper's equivalent of **show running-config** trying to find something [2/28/2020 2:34 PM] doug.emes But that was the way for Big Red [2/28/2020 2:48 PM] nullinterface only 150k lines [2/28/2020 2:49 PM] nullinterface naturally that info isn't there [2/28/2020 3:08 PM] agr0090 will probably need a couple more 2x4s and plywood to mount other blower [2/28/2020 3:09 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah I believe one more 2x4, another quarter sheet of plywood, and another pack of 1/4" toggles [2/29/2020 2:39 AM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/683231978215964672/IMG_20200229_015738.jpg?ex=67b8e49d&is=67b7931d&hm=743dc6936a98f265bf799007403747055e37d0df2dfe4d4b2e3e6a8be4e928b7& {Reactions} dms [2/29/2020 2:40 AM] agr0090 According to my phone the ceiling tile does nothing to make the blower quieter when standing in laser area {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/683232154083262464/Screenshot_20200229-013123.png?ex=67b8e4c7&is=67b79347&hm=cf9cfdc2d63030dc18e9d60ebfce5329e902fe28b9b6913e8913e14ac0aaaf75& [2/29/2020 7:41 AM] skyspook Yay, great success! [2/29/2020 11:13 AM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/683361187529752644/IMG_20200229_111238.jpg?ex=67b95cf3&is=67b80b73&hm=041783f4e50bcb21208e695c0ade7d79e8edf8710156caeed08c6b35c0c6f2fa& [2/29/2020 11:49 AM] agr0090 Any video of max speed rastering? [2/29/2020 11:53 AM] agr0090 Would putting cheap sound panels on wall behind blower be a fire risk? https://www.amazon.com/Siless-pack-Acoustic-Panels-Soundproof/dp/B082QK7B8N [2/29/2020 12:02 PM] michaelb5250 We didn't do a long enough part for max speed [2/29/2020 12:02 PM] michaelb5250 I'll do one later to show the speed [2/29/2020 7:40 PM] michaelb5250 As long as the sound tiles don't get too close to the drop ceiling I dont think they'd be an issue [3/1/2020 5:57 PM] michaelb5250 Can't post videos here? Fusion engraved a 10" square at 500dpi in about 13 minutes. [3/1/2020 5:59 PM] agr0090 What would that take on thunder? [3/1/2020 6:01 PM] michaelb5250 Actually not sure... I was hoping someone else could make a guess [3/1/2020 6:01 PM] agr0090 Running engraving business out of DMS will be a lot more profitable [3/1/2020 6:04 PM] michaelb5250 I was actually planning on charging $2/minute for the time being. But it might still be a better deal [3/1/2020 6:05 PM] agr0090 That makes sense [3/1/2020 6:07 PM] michaelb5250 Sorry, $0.40/minute, 2x the thunder price. Not 10x the thunder price. {Reactions} ❤️ [3/2/2020 4:16 PM] doug.emes Under a buck a minute beats the paper napkin "brother in law rates". You could even round to 50 cents I think [3/4/2020 3:44 PM] walteravoir Does anyone here use lightburn when designing stuff at home? If so, how did you go about porting it to rdworks? I was using rdworks on the thunder laser today and did not enjoy using it with the thunder. It kept flipping my lettering, cutting through the boards (all i could find were fill or line for cutting). It kept cutting through everything, even on low power, but i think that is because of the lightburn choices (only line and fill). {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/684878885569036360/Screenshot_20200304-153101_Messages.jpg?ex=67b8f3aa&is=67b7a22a&hm=ce3eb9ff0b2f495bc6c7719dfc95a15a29639078ce7f76e94ab92e6c2b471f80& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/684878886181273616/Screenshot_20200304-153109_Messages.jpg?ex=67b8f3aa&is=67b7a22a&hm=3ad02e22f3ad81680a5339a61f4d518565e0fbaab20c2d6ecbd2cf00606a9e5c& [3/4/2020 4:03 PM] michaelb5250 We have lightburn on the laser computers, was it not working for you? [3/4/2020 4:21 PM] walteravoir I was using lightburn when i lasered these out. [3/4/2020 4:22 PM] walteravoir It kept flipping my text, and i couldnt find an option to "make a line" instead of "cut a line" [3/4/2020 4:23 PM] walteravoir I like designing stuff in lightburn, this was just my first time using it with the laser. [3/4/2020 4:38 PM] michaelb5250 Ok, I was confused why you were porting things to RDWorks. I think you're asking to engrave a line instead of cutting a line, that's done by making the lines different colors and setting the appropriate power to engrave instead of cut. [3/4/2020 5:52 PM] walteravoir I set max power to 20 for my last test run (there were people waiting behind me and i didnt want to hog it). Generally what power should it be at for engraving on wood? If i remember correctly the power was 20 and the speed was 200. [3/4/2020 5:57 PM] walteravoir Any ideas why would it be putting my text backwards? The text lines and lines in my image are separately marked lines. I even flipped my text on the last test run and it still printed it backwards 😂 [3/4/2020 5:57 PM] michaelb5250 It really depends on a lot of factors so I don't have good numbers for you. If it's cutting through just keep going lower power power and higher speed. There's also a 'pierce' or 'cut through' option to uncheck when you're doing engravings. [3/4/2020 5:58 PM] michaelb5250 And no, I don't really use your workflow so I have no idea why it would do that, it sounds like something in the design but I really don't know [3/4/2020 6:02 PM] walteravoir Ya thats probably something i need to find in lightburn, the only options for lines (aside from power and speed) i could find were "line and fill", but it didnt specify if it was a cutting line, or etching lines. Im going to mess around with it to remove some other lines anyways because it kept stacking the laser over places it had already been, so hopefully i can find something out when i do that. [3/6/2020 8:22 AM] michaelacks6 Is it accurate that only big thunder is operational at the moment? [3/6/2020 8:25 AM] michaelb5250 It is. Hopefully that changes tonight or tomorrow. Just trying to find a few feet of din rail and a bigger cabinet to put the ventilation control stuff, then blitzen should be up. {Reactions} 👍 [3/6/2020 8:26 AM] michaelb5250 Donner needs some electrical tape on the tube or something (high voltage electrode arcs to the chassis), then it'll be good. {Reactions} 👍 (2) [3/6/2020 8:27 AM] michaelb5250 Fusion is running, but we're starting the train the trainer next week. Zing is still a week or two away on account of the new HEPA filter for it. [3/6/2020 8:31 AM] kenpurcell Tanner's probably has some silicone sleaving or corona dope to help with arcing. I have had good luck with the self sealing rubber tape. [3/6/2020 8:33 AM] michaelb5250 Oh yeah that like super thick rubber tape might be a good choice. I'll see if I can find any. Getting to Tanner's during the week is a problem for me. [3/6/2020 8:34 AM] skyspook I'll be around tonight if you want help. [3/6/2020 9:43 AM] hon1nbo second on the corona dope. It's made to form a conformal coating with on HV equipment. It's on their MG Chemicals shelf. [3/6/2020 9:55 AM] skyspook I may be able to get there before they close today. Hopefully they'll still have stuff. [3/6/2020 10:30 AM] michaelb5250 That'd be awesome. Not sure if they do enclosures but if they have a 16"x16"x6" enclosure I would be really greatful. Just fill out a reimbursement form and I can sign off on anything you manage to pick up. [3/6/2020 11:40 AM] skyspook 👍 [3/6/2020 11:51 AM] abnoba12 I want to do some work leather using the laser. Last time I tried it, it fried the leather bad. I heard there is a mythical laser settings book that floats around to help you figure out your settings. Anyone know where this book is hidden and/or know some good settings for cutting/rastering on leather? [3/6/2020 11:54 AM] michaelb5250 Specifically though the book is floating around. I think most paper stuff got put in a white box on the back table for the moment. Could also check the top drawer of the wood topped cabinet by fusion. [3/6/2020 11:55 AM] abnoba12 I always feel so nosey and guilty digging through drawers, lol. I'll look around for it. [3/6/2020 12:25 PM] hon1nbo I ended up at tanner's cleaning out some Wihas. I snagged a bottle of the Corona dope whilst at it (also they have 100' rolls of 1" 3M brand heat shrink for $12) [3/6/2020 12:26 PM] hon1nbo So naturally I bought 2 :P [3/6/2020 3:13 PM] michaelb5250 Also for laser, we should have a new monitor for blitzen and a 16 port Ethernet switch to out on the wall in place of the current one (it's the one Jim suggested) [3/6/2020 3:39 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/685602566381502495/JPEG_20200306_153934.jpg?ex=67b8f2a5&is=67b7a125&hm=fe0788227ea6912289b9fd10ce94d33970cfcd1f06d0e84fea41dcbf99231707& [3/6/2020 3:40 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/685602730383114294/20200306154014.gif?ex=67b8f2cc&is=67b7a14c&hm=0147db62f9a70cdb1ab62a88a1fdeb49bd93fc1ab6be3d1184855ee285e7d233& [3/6/2020 3:42 PM] michaelb5250 Lol where is that? [3/6/2020 3:45 PM] canibalcrab A school robotics lab [3/6/2020 3:46 PM] canibalcrab I won't out them [3/6/2020 3:46 PM] canibalcrab But damn [3/6/2020 5:06 PM] skyspook @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium did you see if they have enclosures? [3/6/2020 5:07 PM] hon1nbo They had various ones I recall offhand but wasn't a focus of mine. They usually have a lot and their stock seems alright [3/6/2020 5:09 PM] michaelb5250 I called and they don't have anything that big [3/6/2020 5:15 PM] skyspook Yep, I just saw that, lol. [3/6/2020 5:15 PM] skyspook Just use a tupperware box ;) [3/7/2020 12:21 PM] michaelb5250 I'll be in today, it'll probably get screwed to a piece of plywood with a giant temporary sign while I get a box from Grainger next week. [3/7/2020 12:42 PM] skyspook I'm helping metal shop for a bit today, but can hop over if you need help [3/8/2020 5:43 PM] michaelb5250 Put some of the Corona dope on the crack in Donner but we might have upset the gas mix enough that it's not lasing anymore. [3/8/2020 5:43 PM] michaelb5250 Have to check if we have a new tube in 102 otherwise order 2 from china [3/8/2020 5:49 PM] michaelb5250 And the tale of the missing switch was solved, it won't be here until Tuesday [3/8/2020 11:13 PM] michaelb5250 Hey has anyone seen John Gorman using the new laser recently? I'm worried he's going to try and teach a class tomorrow on a laser he hasnt been trained on or used... [3/8/2020 11:18 PM] yashsedai which event leads you to believe that? [3/8/2020 11:18 PM] canibalcrab Hide yo keys [3/8/2020 11:19 PM] yashsedai never mind [3/8/2020 11:19 PM] yashsedai i see it [3/8/2020 11:19 PM] yashsedai i'm blind af [3/8/2020 11:19 PM] michaelb5250 He's got full classes on the calendar lol [3/8/2020 11:19 PM] yashsedai wow [3/8/2020 11:19 PM] yashsedai thats most interesting [3/8/2020 11:20 PM] yashsedai i'm guessing that he things since he's taught the zing its the same? [3/8/2020 11:20 PM] michaelb5250 As for not using it... I didn't tell him how to turn it on [3/8/2020 11:20 PM] michaelb5250 Not close enough to be the same class [3/8/2020 11:20 PM] yashsedai if there has been no training why would he think it would be ok? [3/8/2020 11:22 PM] yashsedai sounds like a reason for lockout tagout 😛 [3/8/2020 11:22 PM] michaelb5250 I dont think anyone knows the way he thinks we'll enough [3/8/2020 11:22 PM] yashsedai especially if there has never been any training developed or approved [3/8/2020 11:59 PM] skyspook I was actually wondering that. I figured you had cleared it... [3/8/2020 11:59 PM] skyspook Very curious [3/9/2020 12:16 AM] hon1nbo @michaelb Well if they're on the calendar it sounds like I need to cancel them [3/9/2020 12:17 AM] ferricyanide7475 🤦‍♀️ [3/9/2020 12:24 AM] michaelb5250 I just double checked and it looks like he hasn't logged into the computer for the fusion. [3/9/2020 12:26 AM] michaelb5250 So, not having used the laser, with no established ciriculum (none that I've seen), without the decided on prereq (Zing users first), and before any sort of 'train the trainer' type class... I'm not ok with him teaching this {Reactions} ☝️ (2) [3/9/2020 12:28 AM] hon1nbo cancelling them {Reactions} 👍 (2) [3/9/2020 12:28 AM] michaelb5250 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I'm going to send him and admin an email, but yeah the classes need to come down. Hes had student pay him personally in advance so I'm expecting this to cause upsetp [3/9/2020 12:38 AM] hon1nbo ueaj [3/9/2020 12:38 AM] hon1nbo **yeah [3/9/2020 12:38 AM] hon1nbo well they're cancelled. He had three up for the fusion [3/9/2020 12:39 AM] michaelb5250 Yup. I emailed him and admin about it. [3/9/2020 12:39 AM] michaelb5250 I have both keys to the laser. [3/9/2020 12:46 AM] canibalcrab Should probably copy one and get it in the finance office [3/9/2020 12:48 AM] michaelb5250 Yup, not a bad plan. [3/9/2020 10:03 AM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/686590106357727242/JPEG_20200309_100341.jpg?ex=67b93e9d&is=67b7ed1d&hm=6fc14ddcfc14827851e89191ef3b6cc91553429cf9a0a1d52b765a2816d96bf2& [3/9/2020 10:19 AM] michaelb5250 Our laser didn't go down but that's exactly what would happen to the printers when any class had a project due at the University lab [3/9/2020 8:39 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/686750071550771222/JPEG_20200309_203931.jpg?ex=67b92ad8&is=67b7d958&hm=e7bd977ba5236472f5de2f00669e4bb78f64ababa15a4b279a2e935378bbc4d0& {Reactions} 👍 (2) [3/9/2020 10:48 PM] kenpurcell Badasses [3/9/2020 10:50 PM] skyspook Getting closer. Needs to be programmed and then hung. Then we'll have moar lazer. [3/9/2020 10:52 PM] canibalcrab And less potential fire [3/9/2020 10:55 PM] skyspook Less excitement you mean [3/9/2020 11:43 PM] michaelb5250 Made a little more progress, mounted, cable run into dampers, hooked up to lasers/blower but had some issues programming. It didn't want to pick up the IO modules or something. I reverted it back to big thunder only and will be back tomorrow to troubleshoot the software and possibly hook up the dampers (need really tiny wire nuts, 18ga) {Reactions} 👀 [3/9/2020 11:44 PM] agr0090 what kind of microcontroller did you go with? [3/9/2020 11:49 PM] michaelb5250 It's a P1AM Arduino based PLC from automation direct [3/9/2020 11:52 PM] skyspook Sweet. Would butt connectors work? I can bring my nice ones in tomorrow. [3/9/2020 11:53 PM] canibalcrab Hehehe [3/9/2020 11:55 PM] agr0090 is it going to be based on the output from the thunder laser outlet like it was before to know the damper should open? [3/10/2020 12:03 AM] michaelb5250 Anything for 18ga but the damper wires are super short. Soldering is also an option [3/10/2020 12:05 AM] michaelb5250 And yeah, so the box is setup with three male IEC cables, each one corresponds to a digital input on the 8ch 24v AC/DC input module (there's a relay in between). [3/10/2020 12:05 AM] michaelb5250 So there's 4 outputs, one blower, and three dampers. It should just see one input go high, open the corresponding damper and turn on the blower [3/10/2020 12:06 AM] michaelb5250 If another goes high at the same time open the new damper. When it goes low, delay a few seconds and close the damper and if all are low turn off the blower. [3/10/2020 12:20 AM] ferricyanide7475 whoot! go laser [3/11/2020 3:48 PM] michaelb5250 Hey if anyone is at the space can someone put a sign on the lasers that they're down for maintenance between 8-10? Like to give people notice before kicking them off [3/11/2020 11:57 PM] michaelb5250 Thanks to whoever put the signs. [3/11/2020 11:58 PM] michaelb5250 As expected, enabling the Arduino serial terminal kicked off the PLC stuff, so turning that off fixed it. The code is really basic at the moment just does damper control and blower on/off. No timing, reporting, or delays (beyond what's already in the laser. [3/11/2020 11:59 PM] michaelb5250 The dampers are super slow (15sec to actuate in some cases) so we might want to switch to blast gates when we move. [3/12/2020 12:03 AM] agr0090 they must be very geared down [3/12/2020 12:03 AM] michaelb5250 Next up is mounting the blower switch for fusion so it can't fall, then running the new Ethernet switch and cables, cleaning up wiring, moving long term committee storage to the fusion crate in 102, replacing donners tube (need to order) and by then zing filter should have arrived and be ready for cart-ification. [3/12/2020 12:03 AM] michaelb5250 They are. And there's a ton of slop so the motor can move for a few seconds before it even begins to actuate. [3/12/2020 12:03 AM] agr0090 I think you accidentally misspelled "next month" as "when we move" [3/12/2020 12:04 AM] michaelb5250 I'm not opposed. Just haven't looked into powered 6" blast gates. They might be pricey enough that we should roll our own. [3/12/2020 12:06 AM] agr0090 Last I looked its hard to find them online, not sure of retailer for the pneumatic ones woodshop ordered. https://shop.ivacswitch.com/products/ivac-pro-6-metal-blast-gate-made-to-order {Embed} https://shop.ivacswitch.com/products/ivac-pro-6-metal-blast-gate-made-to-order iVAC Pro 6" Metal Blast Gate Electrically driven 6" Metal Automatic Blast Gate. Installed between the dust exhaust of a power tool and the main dust collector ducting. Includes metal 6″ diameter blast gate and approved power supply. For detailed information, visit: http://ivacswitch.com/ivac-pro-blast-gat... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pwZVof4fk9STXsBSAa2hkA28a2ztrRN1lwDQ8gRrUoU/%3Fv%3D1457112442/https/cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1131/7834/products/blast-gate-6_grande.png [3/12/2020 12:07 AM] michaelb5250 Think woodshop bought from nordfab? [3/12/2020 12:08 AM] agr0090 look similar [3/12/2020 12:09 AM] michaelb5250 https://www.nordfab.com/en/Products/QF-Ducting/Blast-Gates/SBAS-Automatic-Damper [3/12/2020 12:09 AM] michaelb5250 Haven't looked at woodshop but I remember their ducting is nordfab (the quick clamp rings to connect pieces is the tell) [3/12/2020 12:10 AM] agr0090 I would guess in the 500 dollar each range for those, but unlikely to find prices online [3/12/2020 12:11 AM] agr0090 3245-0600-1000006" AUTO BLAST GATE, GALVANIZED STEEL A=20.50" B=8.66" C=5.25" D=7.00"$1039.20 [3/12/2020 12:12 AM] michaelb5250 Even at $250 I'm willing to consider rolling our own thats a lot more expensive than these dampers were. [3/12/2020 12:12 AM] michaelb5250 And wow that's crazy. [3/12/2020 12:13 AM] agr0090 extra feature to add before its even fully implemented, pressure sensor on laser side so controller can sound an alarm if either the blower doesn't start or damper doesn't open [3/12/2020 12:22 AM] michaelb5250 Seems like a good idea [3/12/2020 12:27 AM] yashsedai the 6" gates are about $20-$30, piston is about 30, pneumatic solenoid is about 25 [3/12/2020 12:27 AM] yashsedai easy to make and work like a dream [3/12/2020 12:27 AM] yashsedai design is similar to this guy [3/12/2020 12:29 AM] yashsedai http://www.nmpproducts.com/exhaust.htm [3/12/2020 8:01 AM] nullinterface *pneumatic* solenoid ... sounds suspiciously like the "control air" concept from early HVAC systems [4/17/2020 11:06 AM] engpin1964 Is laser still looking for a wait list or way to que up? [4/17/2020 11:06 AM] michaelb5250 To replace the magnetic whiteboard strips? [4/17/2020 11:08 AM] michaelb5250 I like the simplicity of the strips, no documentation, training, or maintenance needed. The only thing people complain about is that they can't see how long the queue is from the camera page. [4/17/2020 11:08 AM] canibalcrab Waaaah [4/17/2020 11:09 AM] canibalcrab Next they will be upset they can't sign up on the queue from home [4/17/2020 11:10 AM] michaelb5250 I wouldn't be opposed to an additional camera right in front of the queue, or something along those lines. [4/17/2020 11:10 AM] canibalcrab It wouldn't change the fact that unless you live 5 minutes away there's a good chance someone else can sign up in front of you with a much larger job {Reactions} ☝️ [4/17/2020 11:39 AM] engpin1964 https://waitwhile.com/pricing/ {Embed} https://waitwhile.com/pricing/ Waitwhile - The World's Smartest Free Waitlist app Waitwhile™ is a smart Waitlist & Scheduling app. Improve your wait times and notify guests with SMS/Email. Create a free waitlist in 3 min! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/45ocN6qvz99ozLLe41pwOUMAcxIhs3v3jlkfNQV0-Co/https/waitwhile.com/assets/images/favicon-large.png [4/17/2020 11:39 AM] engpin1964 Look at this and see if it can help [4/17/2020 12:32 PM] kenpurcell No wait currently {Reactions} 👆 [4/17/2020 12:52 PM] ferricyanide7475 Good luck getting in though [4/17/2020 12:53 PM] michaelb5250 I didnt have a problem the other day. Got all the laser cutting I needed done. [4/17/2020 12:54 PM] michaelb5250 Oh wait... I didn't need any laser cutting done.... [4/17/2020 1:43 PM] kenpurcell Have laser cutter at home but no materials unless you count cereal boxes. [4/17/2020 1:49 PM] nullinterface I've got some designs for tri-ply I need to cut eventually ... which I'm sure is a good description the pace at which a K40 cuts 5mm plywood [4/17/2020 2:43 PM] hardsuit Overclock it! [4/17/2020 5:06 PM] themitch22 https://cohesion3d.com/shop/controllers/cohesion3d-laserboard/ {Embed} Brian Bell https://cohesion3d.com/shop/controllers/cohesion3d-laserboard/ Cohesion3D LaserBoard - Cohesion3D Cohesion3D LaserBoard is back in stock!  Orders ship in 2-3 business days! Liberate your Laser Cutter to use better software, variable power for full grayscale engraving, and Z Table/ Rotary capability.  The all-new Cohesion3D LaserBoard can be dropped into the K40 Laser Cutte... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/uBYCsvBQu59MeQjN8EsEtJnRQnKSuHIkiFe4Ru7sHVE/https/cohesion3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/LaserBoard-top.jpg [4/17/2020 5:06 PM] themitch22 here you go [4/17/2020 5:08 PM] talkers Gray scale??! That's awesome [4/17/2020 5:12 PM] themitch22 yeah it really changes the K40 [4/17/2020 5:12 PM] themitch22 and can use lightburn [4/17/2020 5:12 PM] themitch22 I wish I had a K40 but honestly I wouldn't use it as much as having a small desktop CNC router [4/17/2020 5:20 PM] talkers You probably need something like a Mendel90 with a retrofit [4/17/2020 7:05 PM] themitch22 Hell no [4/17/2020 7:06 PM] talkers Hahaha [4/18/2020 8:34 AM] kenpurcell I have a K40 and the cohesion 3D made it usable. I have not implemented some of the advanced features like a camera. [4/18/2020 7:27 PM] hardsuit I've thought it might be cool for DMS to buy a K40, and then document/stream/blog a full upgrade for it, then sell it off. [4/18/2020 7:28 PM] michaelb5250 We've talked out that. I really like the idea, the limiting factor I know of was floor space and someone willing to head the project. [4/18/2020 7:29 PM] michaelb5250 Last I remember we kinda said 'that would be cool once we move' and of course that's taken longer than we thought [4/18/2020 7:36 PM] hardsuit Yep [4/18/2020 7:36 PM] hardsuit I don't know about solo heading it up, but I'd be willing to share that lead of such a project [4/23/2020 11:29 AM] hon1nbo someone at OU is looking for advice on thunder lasers for a student group (they use Epilog and Universal currently, but they want a large format machine like ours and don't think they can justify the budget for one of those vendors at that size) [4/23/2020 11:29 AM] hon1nbo I CC'd @michaelb and the laser@ mailing list [4/23/2020 11:29 AM] michaelb5250 Oh shit I was supposed to reply to that. [4/23/2020 11:30 AM] hon1nbo lawl [4/23/2020 11:31 AM] michaelb5250 I'll get it when im back home. It's basically yes, but be ready to be your own tech support because thunder laser won't talk to you. [6/3/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 Welp blitzens tube was leaking today. So that's 2 tubes with issues at the moment and no spares. Wohooooo [6/3/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 Bliten might be able to be fixed. Same problem donner had with water leaking from the exit mirror [6/3/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 Might try and solder it this time [6/3/2020 9:31 PM] skyspook Is that what it was? I just remember the tube letting the magic lightning out. [6/3/2020 9:31 PM] michaelb5250 Ohhhh so magic lightning tube is like 4 months old. The tube before that had a leak [6/3/2020 9:32 PM] skyspook Ah 🙂 [6/3/2020 9:32 PM] michaelb5250 I forgot there was a tube in between for a second. We should probably switch brands lol [6/3/2020 9:33 PM] skyspook Or just have a recurring order for replacements [6/3/2020 9:37 PM] michaelb5250 Ahh yes the makerspace way of course [6/3/2020 9:38 PM] skyspook Makerspace? I'm pretty sure every business I've ever worked with has done "thow more of x at it" as their go-to solution [6/3/2020 9:38 PM] skyspook Usually people or servers 🙂 [6/3/2020 9:40 PM] michaelb5250 Man I wish my employer would throw people at problems. [6/3/2020 9:41 PM] michaelb5250 Honestly though if they were cheap that'd be the answer, but at $1k a piece, 4 months is really not long enough imho [6/3/2020 10:36 PM] michaelb5250 Good news, for the first time in like a lot of months, all the lasers have power, CO2, air assist, chillers, and automatically controlled ventilation. Even though 2 aren't actually working at the moment. Gotta fix the power to the air solenoid on blitzen and of course the two tubes. Then it's computers, networking, and cleaning. [6/3/2020 10:37 PM] skyspook Good job! And thanks [6/3/2020 10:41 PM] hardsuit Nice! https://media.tenor.com/images/32e438131b328e62f4deee9d8cf917fd/tenor.gif {Embed} https://media.tenor.com/images/32e438131b328e62f4deee9d8cf917fd/tenor.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/V4kxLvjFy7DRqVwyLhS0Fz34hdetAhPLGsxG-Ij736Q/https/media.tenor.com/images/32e438131b328e62f4deee9d8cf917fd/tenor.gif [6/3/2020 11:00 PM] stephenie. Thanks, @michaelb ! [6/4/2020 11:55 AM] themitch22 Flex seal won't fix the leaky tubes? [6/4/2020 12:00 PM] michaelb5250 Jb weld didn't [6/4/2020 12:01 PM] themitch22 How do they break? [6/4/2020 12:04 PM] michaelb5250 Shouldn't be hard to solder it up. [6/4/2020 12:05 PM] michaelb5250 There's a brass donut to cool the exit mirror it's capped by a brass ring that's pressed in over time it goes loose and water leaks through the gap [6/4/2020 12:24 PM] kenpurcell If there are any tubes that are no longer salvageable can we donate one to science? Always wanted to build a CO2 laser and Airgas now has a laser gas mix for sealed tubes. Be interesting to try. Science already has the vacuum pumps and power supplies capable of running a tube. If not I have laser stuff to donate for such a project. [6/4/2020 12:25 PM] michaelb5250 We've got two I believe. I think it's one with a cracked mirror and another with a leak. [6/4/2020 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 I'm going to try and fix the leaky one (in addition to the leaky one in blitzen) but the cracked mirror could be used. I think it was running just massively reduced power when it came out [6/4/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, and the 4th dead tube, currently in donner, could also be donated but I think it might have a crack in the glass tube so not sure if it's useable. [6/4/2020 12:35 PM] kenpurcell I have a couple of 35w RF tubes one is watercooled and the other is aircooled. They can used those if they want for some death ray 😉 [6/4/2020 12:36 PM] michaelb5250 firing those will be much more interesting than firing the glass tubes! [6/4/2020 12:52 PM] kenpurcell interested in testing refilling a sealed tube. I have a ceramic RF tube that needs to be regassed. It was used on an assembly line that did dot matrix style dots on products as they went by on an assembly line. They had 7 tubes arranged vertically and they pulsed the tubes as they stuff went by. [6/4/2020 5:02 PM] ferricyanide7475 death ray @Lampy (Ken Purcell) [6/4/2020 5:02 PM] ferricyanide7475 Hey hey we can't be using that language around science. It starts rumors and next thing i know, im getting questioned {Reactions} 🤣 [6/5/2020 9:45 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/718656736248201266/IMG_20200605_214446.jpg?ex=67b93a3d&is=67b7e8bd&hm=b8cde3c1d3f63b461eab09f3f5f8c1cbf48d29dcda16e6b8fc48168d0aa5550c& [6/5/2020 10:01 PM] skyspook https://tenor.com/view/minion-despicable-me2-dave-amaze-gif-3571101 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/minion-despicable-me2-dave-amaze-gif-3571101 Minion https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/d8SGnweb-URqIRfeJOF5skWgbo9CYSrgMGjr0ZUsH7w/https/media.tenor.co/images/9223135a8b30990b58dfcf5ef10b2243/raw [6/5/2020 10:50 PM] agr0090 Will that table pass the stand on it test? [6/5/2020 10:53 PM] michaelb5250 Probably but I didn't try it. Only temporary [6/6/2020 10:10 AM] doug.emes Ok yeah hate the folding table [6/6/2020 10:11 AM] themitch22 How much was that filter? [6/6/2020 10:18 AM] canibalcrab That's not a folding table {Reactions} thatsbait [6/6/2020 1:28 PM] draco_the_drake Does this mean that DMS has the ability to use the Zing for PR and off site demos/classes? [6/6/2020 1:29 PM] draco_the_drake I think michaelb has me ignored .. can someone else ask? [6/6/2020 2:01 PM] agr0090 When is auto moving? Could shift walkway to door and laser could claim 4 or 5 feet more depth [6/6/2020 2:04 PM] hon1nbo Auto isn't moving any time soon [6/6/2020 2:15 PM] michaelb5250 @Draco only have you ignored in politics and off topic lol Not yet on the zing. [6/6/2020 5:49 PM] draco_the_drake Thanks [6/6/2020 6:24 PM] michaelb5250 @themitch22 filter price is on the wiki. I think ~$1200, we approved $2k to include the UPS, air compressor, and a cart that will get put together eventually. [6/6/2020 6:26 PM] draco_the_drake I think it would get alot of people into the space when people see what they can do ... I still meet people that haven't heard of DMS [6/6/2020 6:27 PM] canibalcrab are you trying to talk people into making the zing a demo piece? [6/6/2020 6:27 PM] canibalcrab because you are way late [6/6/2020 6:32 PM] draco_the_drake No not specific to the Zing ... just something we can take out [6/6/2020 6:33 PM] draco_the_drake and showcase [6/6/2020 6:34 PM] draco_the_drake I think it would be brilliant to make something custom that the public can take with them that has our web address on it [6/6/2020 6:41 PM] canibalcrab like i said, way late [6/6/2020 6:41 PM] draco_the_drake What am I missing? [6/6/2020 6:42 PM] draco_the_drake Are we already doing that? If so .. great .. I didn't know [6/6/2020 6:49 PM] canibalcrab thats what it was all bought for [6/6/2020 6:50 PM] michaelb5250 ITT: We learn why laser spent $2k on zing. 😝 [6/6/2020 6:50 PM] draco_the_drake I knew it was an option but last I knew it was just being used in house. [6/6/2020 6:53 PM] michaelb5250 But you're not far off, it'll be a while before we let it out of the building. Traveling with the laser is difficult and prone to damage, misalignment, and probably other things we don't know about yet. Zing is by far our best option for a travel unit but we need to get a solid something together to hold all the pieces, protect them, and keep them together. Then we need to make sure its good enough to survive the space before we try putting it in cars and going over speed bumps and potholes. It'll be a while. [6/6/2020 6:54 PM] draco_the_drake *nods* ... ok cool 🙂 [6/7/2020 6:26 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/719331509777203260/IMG_20200607_182558.jpg?ex=67b90bac&is=67b7ba2c&hm=3cd21d1d60860433290cd4e23ea7b98b10265cb74ac0f7a4b6365b59b47618e2& [6/7/2020 6:42 PM] michaelb5250 Never saw more than 70% capacity on the UPS, should give 10ish minutes of backup even at full power. Can't run the blower because of the motor start current but combined at the outlet it's less than 15A max. [6/7/2020 6:42 PM] michaelb5250 The air assist is weak, so the dual pump airbrush compressor would be a good idea, but the exhaust is plenty of flow and can be dialed down for some jobs. [6/8/2020 10:33 AM] nullinterface the fun part of inductive loads [6/12/2020 9:41 PM] michaelb5250 I think this is about enough space under the table for scrap storage. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/721192492023676948/IMG_20200612_214011.jpg?ex=67b93959&is=67b7e7d9&hm=1b46b5b0222ca973cd6a0d67900e1e2daa93fe6740491aa4eb70295e6ceca053& [6/13/2020 12:23 PM] canibalcrab Who thinks this is actually usable scrap {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/721414537928114377/JPEG_20200613_122311.jpg?ex=67b95f65&is=67b80de5&hm=8b6d7b30e6142fcb104068dc123952fd9db6b60120b89d8712e963fd1628ac45& [6/13/2020 12:24 PM] canibalcrab Should dedicate like 10 minutes of the classes to making sure people know what to toss [6/13/2020 12:24 PM] agr0090 If there is a scrap area people assume they can put anything there so they don't have to carry it to dumpster [6/13/2020 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah that looks a lot like the stuff I cleaned off the back table last night. [6/13/2020 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 The argument is usually 'oh I'll be able to use a small piece of it to test my settings' and some people are good about breaking off the useless bits. [6/13/2020 12:27 PM] canibalcrab If that's the argument they should be cutting the bad parts off [6/13/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 But enough people just leave sheets of trash that it's not worth it. Anyways, how often is there scrap that's exactly what you're cutting lol [6/13/2020 12:29 PM] agr0090 My suggestion would be no scrap but stock cardboard for free usage, but I'm not implementing anything so suggestion isn't worth anything [6/13/2020 12:30 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah I talked to machine shop about taking all their extra cardboard at one point. Not sure what happened to it [6/13/2020 12:30 PM] canibalcrab I think combination scrap freebie shelf [6/13/2020 12:30 PM] michaelb5250 They have probably 12 4x8 sheets even after laying out their space. [6/13/2020 12:31 PM] canibalcrab Then committees don't have to dedicate space to it and all the "free" stuff is in one place [6/13/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 I like it. Especially tiny committees like laser [6/13/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 that filled all their space with... lasers... [6/13/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 what a stupid decision [6/13/2020 12:44 PM] kenpurcell New rule no napping in the lasers. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/721419795085393980/FB_IMG_1592068611935.jpg?ex=67b9644a&is=67b812ca&hm=f42499179968505c90b187b17021d4ce918f8f656ffaa4966cde594a794b9d38& [6/13/2020 12:49 PM] michaelb5250 Damn big thunder always made a great hiding spot [6/13/2020 12:54 PM] anutterbutter lol [6/13/2020 1:02 PM] agr0090 Is old big thunder still sitting around? [6/13/2020 1:02 PM] michaelb5250 Yup it's back in the warehouse still. We've talked about sending it to auction but that hasn't happened yet [6/13/2020 1:10 PM] nullinterface there's useful material in those sheets, but ~6x6 looks to be the largest chunks one could harvest [6/13/2020 1:28 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb Tim was asking committees who wanted all their cardboard the other day [6/13/2020 1:36 PM] michaelb5250 Sweet. I saw 55 gallon drum and my brain turned off. [6/15/2020 2:20 PM] michaelb5250 I've only got tonight before I leave town for the week, anyone want to meet up and try to solder the leak shut on one one of those broken laser tubes? [6/15/2020 2:53 PM] kenpurcell Going to solder or epoxy it? [6/15/2020 2:53 PM] michaelb5250 We've tried JB Weld in the past and it didn't work. It's clean brass so solder seemed like a better solution [6/15/2020 2:57 PM] kenpurcell I have some low temp alloy but I think it is low enough that it would melt from hot water. 🙂 [6/15/2020 3:01 PM] michaelb5250 The brass needs to be above a certain temp for solder to wet to it anyways. [6/15/2020 4:20 PM] jupiterscomet Since they opened today, just checking, are all the lasers up and running or just thunder? [6/15/2020 4:22 PM] michaelb5250 Big Thunder and Zing are up. The other two have broken tubes at the moment. {Reactions} 👍 (2) [6/15/2020 5:52 PM] michaelb5250 @pearce how long did that take? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/722222059702190191/JPEG_20200615_175223.jpg?ex=67b903b5&is=67b7b235&hm=7243f611f06274f52a1bab832451cd727e129b8bfd6ccb7041ed45decc96adb3& [6/15/2020 6:05 PM] canibalcrab God [6/15/2020 6:05 PM] canibalcrab Time for a "not a dumpster" sign [6/15/2020 6:05 PM] canibalcrab Or we pin that one to the wall with a sign that says "trash not scrap" [6/15/2020 6:22 PM] skyspook Can we have a waiver to put someone's hand in and laser that on them? [6/15/2020 7:37 PM] michaelb5250 Alright, well I don't have the patience to solder that tube in place with a 70W iron. Sounds like it needs a less electronics based approach and a more jewelery focused one. Gotta find someone else for that.... {Reactions} 👍 [6/15/2020 8:16 PM] kenpurcell got propane or mapp gas torch if you want. Jewelry probably has much more controlled tools. [6/15/2020 8:17 PM] michaelb5250 It's honestly a skill thing, I'm very concerned I'll crack the mirror with a torch. Was comfortable with the electric iron. [6/17/2020 1:07 AM] chocolatelasagna Very interested in learning / getting cert for any of the lasers if possible. I will buy you lunch or something like that. And am available at any time :) ty ty sry if spam [6/20/2020 12:31 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/723953225052717156/IMG_20200620_123121.jpg?ex=67b9613b&is=67b80fbb&hm=9fa38829c80a24d25fdf5c28c8eed5731a1fff9116237a1bb2318ff15c43c95b& [6/20/2020 12:31 PM] michaelb5250 Gee I wonder why Donner's tube was arcing out [6/20/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 Superglued one of the leaky tubes and later today we'll see if the cyanoacrylate idea holds water [6/20/2020 12:55 PM] judykriehn3727 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/723959329203552356/image0.gif?ex=67b966ea&is=67b8156a&hm=a5009e884cfc6319f2786ad65793417d3051d6f9cb450f8943a6f1d6c3289d80& [6/20/2020 8:46 PM] michaelb5250 Alright superglue doesn't work. So no jb weld, no superglue, and Johnny didn't think it could be soldered without issues... [6/20/2020 8:48 PM] judykriehn3727 Duct tape? [6/20/2020 8:59 PM] michaelb5250 I think the next step is low temp solder and see if it'll wet. Charles seems to think it will. @Lampy (Ken Purcell) is that offer still on the table? [6/20/2020 9:02 PM] michaelb5250 Oh or better yet, found a brand new tube in old thunder.... That was unexpected {Reactions} 🏁 (2) [6/20/2020 9:12 PM] andrew5152 (How is there no "ftw" emoji?) [6/20/2020 9:16 PM] canibalcrab What would that look like [6/20/2020 9:16 PM] canibalcrab Gif keyboard works for it too [6/20/2020 9:30 PM] agr0090 Check again tomorrow, maybe another will appear [6/20/2020 9:37 PM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/724090546439847987/unknown.png?ex=67b9385f&is=67b7e6df&hm=2e96d5d1ea2c576b5bffe3dfd69ff1564a5053fedd1c01bbc30ae5c6564b5bc4& [6/20/2020 9:37 PM] andrew5152 surely an artistic soul could do better... [6/20/2020 10:20 PM] kenpurcell Sure it is available but saw some cerabend alloy on top of the yellow cabinet in the old jewelry area. [6/21/2020 1:21 AM] michaelb5250 Alright, scratch everything. The brass broke in half while removing a tube. New theory is a corrosion issue. [6/21/2020 1:22 AM] michaelb5250 Used to be a barb where that hole is {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/724147120088678461/JPEG_20200621_012153.jpg?ex=67b96d0f&is=67b81b8f&hm=78163049dfdcd3d91d49a827669c24d6dd6d6dbe4536ecf89c53ed00cc44a2d3& [6/21/2020 1:22 AM] canibalcrab Time for regular tap water and biocides? [6/21/2020 1:22 AM] michaelb5250 Maybe not biocides but some anti corrosion agent yeah [6/21/2020 1:23 AM] michaelb5250 Or both. Mayhems X1 anyone? 😂 [6/21/2020 1:23 AM] aceat64 what about just some automotive coolant? [6/21/2020 1:23 AM] michaelb5250 Booooo [6/21/2020 1:23 AM] michaelb5250 But yeah [6/21/2020 1:24 AM] michaelb5250 Gotta find one that won't go bad with the laser light [6/21/2020 1:24 AM] michaelb5250 Or uv or w/e it gets exposed too [6/21/2020 3:10 AM] michaelb5250 Looks like anything with glycol is too conductive to be near the tube. Some sources say a biocide and a surfactant in distilled. So distilled, dish soap, and some biocide from a pet store (aquariums) it is. I'll leave big thunder alone and we'll see what happens. [6/21/2020 9:18 AM] kenpurcell I use that verry mix in my two lasers but I have very few hours of cutting time. [6/21/2020 2:03 PM] michaelb5250 Blitzen is running just have to route the USB cable. Big Thunder had the air assist control fail so it's hot wired for now. [6/21/2020 4:23 PM] canibalcrab How'd it fail? [6/21/2020 4:23 PM] canibalcrab The last big thunder had it's controller shorted because we had it wired into the blower system in a weird way too [6/21/2020 4:34 PM] michaelb5250 Could be something like that. It's not closing the small relay in the cabinet. The relay is good so something in the wiring or the controller. [6/22/2020 7:26 PM] michaelb5250 Ahh the joys of laser maintenance. Like trying to flush the tube and instead spraying vinegar all over your clothes. [6/22/2020 7:27 PM] skyspook Fun! [6/22/2020 7:46 PM] michaelb5250 Found a splitter so big thunder is running, air assist driven off blower output. [6/22/2020 8:13 PM] michaelb5250 Oh and some ultra blue rtv seemed to stem the leak in donner pretty well. I'll check on it in a few hours and see if it's good enough [6/23/2020 3:07 PM] pondit Blitzed is turned on and there is a computer attached; is it up and working now? [6/23/2020 3:07 PM] pondit I don’t hear the air on it is why I ask. [6/23/2020 3:08 PM] michaelb5250 What do you mean by that? [6/23/2020 3:08 PM] michaelb5250 Like, you're trying to cut and the air doesn't turn on? [6/23/2020 3:09 PM] michaelb5250 Yes, it was working last night. But we've had issues with air assist recently so I'm a bit sensitive to it. 2 cracked lenses in the past week. [6/23/2020 3:09 PM] pondit No, just the generic hun when opening the lid [6/23/2020 3:09 PM] michaelb5250 Ohhh [6/23/2020 3:09 PM] pondit If the doesn’t run while laser it I’ll stop [6/23/2020 3:10 PM] michaelb5250 In the past, if someone was running big thunder you'd get that noise because the exhausts were connected directly together. [6/23/2020 3:11 PM] pondit Ohhh! Makes sense [6/23/2020 3:11 PM] michaelb5250 We've got some automatic valves in place now so it won't make that noise anymore, just make sure the blower and air assist turn on when you start cutting. [6/23/2020 3:15 PM] pondit It’s working great [6/23/2020 3:15 PM] michaelb5250 Sweet. Someone else had USB issues, glad it worked for you. [6/26/2020 8:31 PM] chocolatelasagna Does the chair use discord? [6/26/2020 8:32 PM] skyspook Nah, it mostly just sits there. {Reactions} 👍 [6/26/2020 8:32 PM] chocolatelasagna Yeah u guys make that joke a llt [6/26/2020 8:32 PM] chocolatelasagna Lot* [6/26/2020 8:32 PM] skyspook Well, @michaelb also just sits there too. {Reactions} 😆 [6/26/2020 8:32 PM] chocolatelasagna Lol [6/26/2020 8:33 PM] chocolatelasagna It's hard to know if names match people. And I don't Wana go around accusing people of being someone haha Thanks. [6/26/2020 9:22 PM] canibalcrab @laser chair just sits there and wonders why his car has a gas tank strapped to the front bumper [6/26/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure if the chair is in here tbh [6/26/2020 10:12 PM] michaelb5250 Also, my car hasn't ever had a gas tank strapped to the front of it. [6/26/2020 10:13 PM] michaelb5250 My truck on the other hand... [6/26/2020 10:13 PM] skyspook Why are you me, now? [6/26/2020 10:13 PM] skyspook I'm very confused [6/26/2020 10:30 PM] michaelb5250 I thought we were doing names that didn't match people [6/26/2020 10:30 PM] michaelb5250 Oh well [6/26/2020 10:32 PM] skyspook I mean, we can [6/26/2020 10:32 PM] skyspook I've been drinking wine, and got very confused and thought I was talking to myself [6/26/2020 10:32 PM] michaelb5250 😂 wohoo. [6/26/2020 10:51 PM] judykriehn3727 @Skyspook he was just applying for the job as your evil twin. [6/26/2020 10:54 PM] skyspook Two of me would be pretty scary [6/26/2020 10:54 PM] michaelb5250 I can think of worse [6/28/2020 11:56 PM] chocolatelasagna Is there any way to fix the connection issue with the middle laser cutter ? Did a power cycle on both laser and the computer as well as fiddle with the USB cable but never got it to connect. I know it works sometimes though. [6/28/2020 11:57 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah it's very finicky, I really don't know of a solid way to get it working at the moment. Plan is to go to an active extension like big thunder is on and maybe that'll help. [6/29/2020 12:09 AM] canibalcrab juts keep retrying [6/29/2020 2:12 AM] talkers Did we try replacing the USB cables? Other option is putting the lasers on the network [6/29/2020 7:25 AM] nullinterface lasers on the *DMS* network probably not a good plan as much playing around as some of our members do with port scanning and the like. Isolated segment with a gateway between the DMS network and the lasers, perhaps. [6/29/2020 8:18 AM] canibalcrab It's not like you have to restart every time [6/29/2020 8:19 AM] canibalcrab Just hit re-send and I usually works within 3-5 tries and then stays connected for the time you are using it [6/29/2020 8:19 AM] michaelb5250 Yes, tried a few different USB cables. That's why I'd like to go to the active one. It seems to have worked for big thunder. [6/29/2020 8:20 AM] michaelb5250 Rather not throw them on the network just to avoid the retraining and hassle if someone sends a job to the wrong laser. I don't believe we get an interface like octoprint with these machines. [6/29/2020 10:10 AM] chocolatelasagna Gotcha thanks. Yeah retrying did not work in my experience [6/29/2020 12:34 PM] hardsuit Is it software issues, and not hardware with a bad plug/socket? [6/29/2020 12:50 PM] talkers It affects all the thunder lasers. Problem with the USB connection. Plugging/unplugging often resets the connection. I suspect the board Thunder uses. [6/29/2020 2:30 PM] canibalcrab It happens to the thunder at polyprinter, I use USB connection [6/29/2020 2:31 PM] canibalcrab When I plug in my laptop the first time, it will either say connection failed, or work. Retry a couple times and it works and stays connected [6/29/2020 2:32 PM] nullinterface physical port worn out? [6/29/2020 2:44 PM] michaelb5250 Lol [6/30/2020 12:23 PM] chocolatelasagna Gotcha I'll give that a try [6/30/2020 12:23 PM] chocolatelasagna The big laser is double cutting or sorta out of focus but I'm not sure how to trouble shoot lose or dirty mirros [6/30/2020 12:24 PM] chocolatelasagna So I'm trying to get other one to connect . Only annoys me cause I watch people use it all day lol! [6/30/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 You can check the lens by disconnecting the air assist line and dropping the whole tube out of the laser. Unscrew the cone at the end of the tube and look through it. Lens may be cracked or dirty. Just make sure the air assist is reconnected when you put it all back. [6/30/2020 12:29 PM] michaelb5250 If you're brave just look up a few YouTube videos on cleaning and go for it, supplies are in the upper silver cabinet by metal shop. If it's not dirty it's an alignment issue and that takes a lot more time to realign. [6/30/2020 12:31 PM] chocolatelasagna I wouldn't mind printing on usb on the smaller but I can't get it to read a file [6/30/2020 12:31 PM] chocolatelasagna I think it might be alignment cause it seems location dependent [6/30/2020 12:31 PM] chocolatelasagna I'll look into it some mkre and get back to you [6/30/2020 12:31 PM] chocolatelasagna More* [6/30/2020 12:32 PM] chocolatelasagna Like left side prints better than middle or right [6/30/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 Oh yeah location dependent sounds like alignment. Left side is closer to the source so it's less sensitive to alignment issues [6/30/2020 12:33 PM] chocolatelasagna If you get time at some point or anyone else lmk and I'd be down to help / learn for future issues [6/30/2020 12:34 PM] michaelb5250 I need to get some videos up on this stuff. It's on my list but Fusion is mostly useless for people and Donner is an asshole so it's been pushed down. [6/30/2020 12:34 PM] michaelb5250 I'll let you know if I head up some evening to check. Probably tonight or tomorrow after 6? [6/30/2020 12:46 PM] chocolatelasagna Sounds good 👍 [6/30/2020 4:23 PM] talkers Double lines are alignment issues. I believe the laser is bouncing inside the cone. Prob most likely on the mirror above the lens. It's the hardest to adjust 🙁 [6/30/2020 4:26 PM] michaelb5250 We've seen double lines due to a cracked lens several times. [6/30/2020 4:26 PM] talkers Oh that's interesting! [6/30/2020 4:27 PM] michaelb5250 The lens is most likely to crack right where the laser passes through, so it can cause any number of issues with the beam depending on exactly how the crack forms. Two weeks ago was the most recent example, and replacing the lens fixed the double lines {Reactions} 👍 [6/30/2020 5:56 PM] michaelb5250 @chocolate lasagna and anyone else, I'll be up at the space before meet the candidates tonight (6:30ish) to check blitzen and thunder, willing to show anyone who's there what's up in regards to maintenance. [6/30/2020 6:24 PM] chocolatelasagna I'm about to go run and get some hardware before store closes. Should be back shortly [6/30/2020 8:40 PM] michaelb5250 Big Thunder was realigned. Since fixing the air assist, done more realignments than lens cleanings. [6/30/2020 8:41 PM] michaelb5250 Someone came in to cut leather and you could watch the exhaust stream straight back and out, it was wonderful. And the door is notably harder to open with the blower running. I am happy. {Reactions} 😋 🙌 (2) [6/30/2020 8:42 PM] skyspook Awesome. 🙂 [7/1/2020 7:46 PM] judykriehn3727 don't you love when a plan comes together? [7/3/2020 10:06 PM] michaelb5250 Laser Election Saturday 7/25 in person and on Google meet! [7/7/2020 12:25 PM] michaelb5250 Laser has a culture of 'don't fix the lasers (if you haven't been specifically trained)' is more accurate. [7/7/2020 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 Which is great and all, but it has its own issues. [7/7/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 Like a couple weeks ago when big thunder ran with a cracked lens for 4 days. Someone made a report on talk, 'hey its cutting double lines', and I mentioned it likely had a cracked lens but wouldn't be around to fix it. Well, the laser sat for 4 days because (imho) perfectly competent people are too afraid to touch it. Until one of our commercial users came by and replaced the lens. [7/7/2020 12:28 PM] michaelb5250 And it's frustrating to me, because there are tons of people who really want to help and the culture surrounding the system stops them from doing so. [7/7/2020 12:29 PM] kentamanos It's a tough balancing act for sure. The fear is overconfident and underskilled don't know what they don't know and and up making the situation worse. How likely that is to happen I don't have a feel for, but then I'm underconfident 🙂 [7/7/2020 12:30 PM] michaelb5250 It's absolutely a balancing act. And I know my argument in 3D fab is certainly swinging all the way to the far side. [7/7/2020 12:31 PM] michaelb5250 But the extreme opposite buts a lot of pressure on the committee to both fix things and train people to use the lasers. And I'm here with, broken lasers, untrained members, and a ton of people who want to help, but no time to actually train them [7/7/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 So now there's willing volunteers, problems to fix, and a cultural barrier standing between them. We'll get through it, and I'm sure it'll work out, it's just frustrating in the mean time. [7/7/2020 12:34 PM] kentamanos I guess the annoying part on balancing acts is you only know you're way out of balance when a fall occurs 🤣 {Reactions} 💯 [7/7/2020 12:34 PM] skyspook We'll get through it. Been trying to work my way through manuals so I can help out a bit. I'm sure others will as well [7/7/2020 12:36 PM] kentamanos You seems to be doing a good job from my POV FWIW. [7/7/2020 12:36 PM] stephenie. @michaelb has worked his butt off for Laser. Lucky to have him. {Reactions} 💯 (4) [7/7/2020 12:41 PM] slinkygn Looks like the lousy wifi over at 3d ate my responses - long story short, I see the 3D scanner issue as a very narrow one, due specifically to its unique nature in a committee for whom the majority of other equipment is 1) commodity priced and 2) easily field repairable. I wouldn't (and actively haven't, the Rostock being a recent example) advocated that sort of restriction for anything else in 3D Fab. [7/7/2020 12:42 PM] slinkygn Responses still filtering in, and I'm catching up - like I said in the other thread, I certainly meant no offense. I actually meant what I was saying as a compliment, and don't know how I screwed that up that badly that it came across as the opposite but I regret that it did. [7/7/2020 12:43 PM] nullinterface we've probably got a lot more training, maintenance, usage documentation than the casual user can easily find, but I suspect a lot of it is not on the wiki or other DMS platforms [7/7/2020 12:45 PM] kentamanos also FWIW, 4 days of downtime on one laser is certainly a much better SLA than people could expect at certain times in our past, and IMO not a huge amount of downtime. [7/7/2020 12:56 PM] slinkygn ^^^ true that - at the same time, though, I'd say it's hard to fault striving to maintain an even higher standard :) [7/7/2020 12:58 PM] nullinterface having done a moderate amount of technical writing during my career I find the absence of technical documentation a bit distressing, but on the other hand I simply lack the energy to do more of it myself [7/7/2020 12:59 PM] kentamanos striving to maintain higher standards without affecting your health or burnout rate is...well, you know... ⚖️ 🙂 {Reactions} 👍 [7/7/2020 1:01 PM] nullinterface my most recent Talk post being evidence of this [7/9/2020 8:45 PM] michaelacks6 Are all 3 thunder lasers up? Looking at the camera I don’t see signs on any of them but I recall @michaelb saying that donner is being a bitch [7/9/2020 8:45 PM] michaelb5250 Big Thunder and blitzen are up [7/9/2020 8:45 PM] michaelb5250 Donner's getting a new tube but we don't have any so it'll be a while [7/9/2020 8:53 PM] michaelacks6 Got it. Thanks! [7/9/2020 10:40 PM] michaelb5250 Well, correction, apparently they're all down now. Must've been a pretty bad air leak but the entire old air system got shut down... [7/9/2020 11:14 PM] michaelacks6 Ugh. Lovely [7/10/2020 5:51 AM] canibalcrab I'm confused why they keep saying old air system [7/10/2020 5:51 AM] canibalcrab There's no separated one? [7/10/2020 5:52 AM] canibalcrab So it's the whole system [7/10/2020 6:16 AM] michaelb5250 Im pretty sure it's old plumbing vs new. All the steel pipe Tim ran a while back. [7/10/2020 6:36 AM] canibalcrab But its all the same source [7/10/2020 6:38 AM] michaelb5250 Right but they installed some valves so the old plumbing can be isolated iirc [7/10/2020 6:40 AM] michaelb5250 On talk Charles mentioned that when he had the old system connected both compressors could only manage 55psi. Turning off the older plumbing seemed to fix the issue. [7/10/2020 7:09 AM] canibalcrab Interesting [7/10/2020 12:23 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb I see the compressor issue is resolved. I can head to the space and remove the signs if we are set to use the lasers [7/10/2020 12:28 PM] michaelb5250 Yup sounds like a plan. [7/10/2020 12:28 PM] michaelacks6 👍 [7/14/2020 1:03 AM] hon1nbo Fusion does some cool stuff {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/732477237869412443/lasered_blacklight.jpg?ex=67b96896&is=67b81716&hm=7332c583691412296c30e9efeddefce783d2dfd34265e4241f3d4b45a6770d8a& [7/14/2020 1:08 AM] canibalcrab nice [7/14/2020 2:40 AM] hon1nbo CRC Dry Moly Lube, (Net Weight: 11 oz.) 16 oz Aerosol Can, Dark Gray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013J62P4/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_4dwdFbEM612XQ [7/14/2020 2:40 AM] hon1nbo Next up for the fusion to try: apparently this dry lube is a great alternative to Cermark at about 1/10 the cost [7/14/2020 2:44 AM] canibalcrab that would be cool [7/14/2020 11:02 AM] hon1nbo I ordered a can to try [7/14/2020 11:02 AM] hon1nbo reviews on amazon are pretty good (for people buying it for lasering, and algorithms had already been recommending it for me). The photos shown seem a little faded but for $10 I can try settings to see what makes better results. It's cheap enough I'd like to see us providing it again [7/14/2020 11:09 AM] doug.emes Not throwing shade, but a permissive explanation that although it's an aerosol, it's not beholden to the paint fiasco, etc. Might be a good idea [7/14/2020 11:23 AM] hon1nbo oh the city already explained that to Rich [7/14/2020 11:25 AM] hon1nbo so the Paint fiasco and rules from the city's environmental group only apply to decorative paint. It doesn't apply to industrial processes, things like applying a spray sealant, etc. It's a rule that applies to business that try to do high-volume painting with VOCs such as spray paint which is not by law supposed to be used in such quantities commercially Businesses would say "oh it's just this amount" but would hide it, so the city passed the rule because of abuse of the amounts allowed [7/14/2020 11:25 AM] hon1nbo outside of a paint booth [7/14/2020 11:27 AM] hon1nbo in the case of things like Cermark, it's an industrial process versus just getting around the right type of paint / application processes. Rich may have a better way of explaining it [7/14/2020 11:27 AM] hon1nbo but I've already talked with him about it [7/14/2020 11:27 AM] hon1nbo I think "colour" was actually in the definition from the City on what they were concerned with [7/14/2020 11:29 AM] brsims2406 I think you're gonna need to cite sources on this. I'm not sure we've ever got a a clear picture on the spray paint prohibition, much less these types of exceptions to it. [7/14/2020 11:30 AM] brsims2406 To be clear- I'm not saying you're wrong- just that I want to read where this comes from. [7/14/2020 11:37 AM] hon1nbo I'll follow up with Rich on it [7/14/2020 11:38 AM] hon1nbo if we're to provide / allow it sprayed on-prem. For my own purposes in the time being I'll spray it at home then bring it in. As a side note though, the replacement substitute that was found is a dry-lubricant that's already used on machinery and other cases but happens to work well for the same purposes as Cermark since it forms the chemical reaction required and still washes off without solvents [7/14/2020 11:39 AM] hon1nbo (I'd also thumbs up your "cite sources" since I intended to follow up with Rich anyway since he informed me originally when we talked about it, but I'm still not allowed to do that :P) {Reactions} 👍 (2) [7/14/2020 12:42 PM] Deleted User never used cermark but I've tried dry moly and it was disappointing [7/14/2020 12:42 PM] Deleted User this is another fairly cheap option that was better https://brilliancelaserinks.com/ {Embed} https://brilliancelaserinks.com/ Brilliance Laser Marking Inks Laser, Spray, laser spray, laser marking, CO2 laser marking, printing, hot stamping, pad printing, ink jetting, Powder, Laser marking powder, additives, masterbatch, colorants, plastic laser marking, laser marking additives, animal tags, security seals, wire and cable marking,... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pwDM2-eOuI7q2f-3CLOxGlc3kVKu6EuiTlnPGtdzpNA/%3Fheight%3D628%26pad_color%3Dfff%26v%3D1570589089%26width%3D1200/https/cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0054/4129/0343/files/Brilliance_Logo_bcda54fb-7895-43f1-ba58-9fe7d63ad75a.png [7/14/2020 2:36 PM] hon1nbo yeah that's what I was going to get until I saw this. I figure for $10 worth a try. Even if not good enough for artistic use, if I can get a readable mark for just asset tagging and mechanical needs it's already an improvement [7/17/2020 2:28 PM] chocolatelasagna How do you compensate (if able) for round objects like a cylinder on the laser? [7/17/2020 2:29 PM] skyspook For a Cylinder you'd use the rotary if possible {Reactions} 👍 [7/17/2020 6:01 PM] hon1nbo @chocolate lasagna if you're trained on the thunders I can teach you the Epilog [7/17/2020 6:01 PM] hon1nbo the rotary tool for it is really nice [7/20/2020 7:47 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/734934619308163143/IMG_20200720_194645.jpg?ex=67b91eb3&is=67b7cd33&hm=b99b1e872d17dd911721c780c380c5440e2cbb08230168b2d7eb2aa570e1f77b& [7/20/2020 7:47 PM] hon1nbo 2020 Themed Shooters {Reactions} 😆 (6) [7/20/2020 8:03 PM] agr0090 Just read article about prospect of a busy hurricane season, potentially creating a covicane [7/20/2020 8:03 PM] skyspook I think I need one of those 🙂 [7/20/2020 8:06 PM] themitch22 That shot glass needs to be bigger. [7/20/2020 8:28 PM] ferricyanide7475 > Just read article about prospect of a busy hurricane season, potentially creating a covicane @AGr i see you and i read the same article [7/20/2020 9:12 PM] skyspook Yea, I'm gonna have to try some custom shot glasses, @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium Thanks for adding yet another project to my todo list! [7/22/2020 8:36 PM] michaelb5250 Walked in to see all three lasers being used tonight, this is awesome! {Reactions} ❤️ [7/22/2020 8:36 PM] skyspook Just need to get more tubes and make it 4 (socially distant, of course) [7/22/2020 8:37 PM] michaelb5250 Also, I'm not sure if other people are getting there first but big thunders lens hasn't needed cleaning nearly as much as it used to [7/22/2020 8:38 PM] michaelb5250 Yup! We'll approve a pair of tubes Saturday. I may have caused some confusion in science that resulted in a spare tube, so we might even have a refurb in the interim {Reactions} 🙄 (3) [7/24/2020 12:58 PM] hon1nbo Bed bath and beyond has all these vacuum walled containers and metal water bottles on sale. Great for rotary lasting gifts [7/24/2020 12:58 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/736281254835781692/IMG_20200724_125646.jpg?ex=67b9679a&is=67b8161a&hm=725872c84e02916fc4d1296497959f69df15ec30371d66eeea85df7c1139174d& {Reactions} ❤️ [7/24/2020 1:04 PM] michaelb5250 We got that rolling pin stamp engraved last night, that should be interesting as well [7/24/2020 1:05 PM] michaelb5250 And to announce it here, there's some unexpected behavior with the autofocus probe, it's focusing a bit too high. [7/24/2020 1:05 PM] michaelb5250 manual focus or thickness mode seem to give the best results for nwo [7/24/2020 1:05 PM] skyspook I saw. Anything from them yet? [7/24/2020 1:06 PM] michaelb5250 no, I'm really bad about remembering to actually do things [7/24/2020 1:06 PM] michaelb5250 so I just got gmail open to send the email [7/24/2020 1:07 PM] skyspook Lol. I do that all the time [7/24/2020 1:07 PM] skyspook Manual focus isn't too hard [7/24/2020 1:07 PM] skyspook But would be good to know what's up [7/24/2020 1:13 PM] michaelb5250 Yup. Email Sent. I'm wondering if it's something like placing the focal point a little bit down to help with cutting thicker materials. [7/24/2020 1:13 PM] michaelb5250 We only tested with 1/8" acrylic. [7/24/2020 1:14 PM] michaelb5250 Also makes me wonder if we shouldn't just be teaching the 'thickness mode' where you tell it how thick the material is and it sets the Z automatically. That was the only option we had on our ULS machine. [7/24/2020 1:16 PM] skyspook I haven't taught it yet (want to play with it this weekend first) but I was going to do that and manual first. I just see the plunger as something that won't always work [7/24/2020 1:16 PM] skyspook Weird shape stuff, etc [7/24/2020 1:17 PM] michaelb5250 I'm leaning that way. especially since it seems to collect dirt and it rather delicate to clean. [7/24/2020 1:17 PM] skyspook It's a good idea, but I think I'd rather see a no touch version. [7/24/2020 1:18 PM] michaelb5250 it's on a very light spring that's easy to stretch too far when cleaned. caught me off guard laser night but didn't seem to leave any permanent damage. [7/24/2020 1:19 PM] michaelb5250 it's their first try with autofocus, material compatibility is difficult [7/24/2020 1:19 PM] michaelb5250 you've got the spectrum of glass (no IR) and soft materials (no ultrasonic) [7/24/2020 1:20 PM] skyspook I was just typing that, lol [7/24/2020 1:20 PM] michaelb5250 🤣 [7/24/2020 1:20 PM] skyspook It's a fun problem [7/24/2020 1:20 PM] skyspook But difficult [7/24/2020 4:09 PM] michaelb5250 Turns out there's a focus calibration procedure buried in the user manual. Appendix C. Calibrate the laser focus, then calibrate the auto focus plunger to that. [7/24/2020 4:09 PM] michaelb5250 Gives me something to do this evening if the laser's freee [7/24/2020 4:09 PM] andrew5152 RTFM! {Reactions} dms [7/24/2020 4:09 PM] andrew5152 🤣 [7/24/2020 9:11 PM] skyspook hah. At least we know now? [7/25/2020 2:03 PM] doug.emes Justin and I are on the meeting google wise [7/25/2020 2:03 PM] doug.emes @michaelb [7/25/2020 2:12 PM] skyspook You went away @michaelb [7/26/2020 1:06 AM] slinkygn > We only tested with 1/8" acrylic. @michaelb ooh, is acrylic back on the OK list? ❤️ [7/26/2020 10:23 AM] skyspook Apparently I either wrote down the wrong code or @michaelb gave me the wrong one, but I can't get into the box for the fusion key. Code works for the box that has the cabinet key though. Anybody help me out? [7/26/2020 12:26 PM] michaelb5250 I don't believe acrylic has ever been on the do not cut list. It's one of the most common materials people use {Reactions} ☝️ [7/26/2020 12:29 PM] michaelb5250 So everyone knows, it's the right code, but the box has been jamming up if the key falls off the hook. [7/26/2020 1:01 PM] skyspook Jammed good enough that I certainly can't get in. It was already half off the wall, and is a bit worse from my meddling. I'd remount it if I could get in [7/26/2020 1:01 PM] skyspook Also the usb port on blitzen is definitely a problem [7/26/2020 1:01 PM] skyspook Was just taking a look [7/26/2020 2:00 PM] slinkygn > I don't believe acrylic has ever been on the do not cut list. It's one of the most common materials people use @michaelb you're absolutely right. I was mistaken. looked back at the Talk thread where I saw that; it was a year and a half ago, and somebody confused Plexiglas with PC. Thanks! Wish I'd realized that sooner 🙂 [7/26/2020 6:24 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/737088044498288670/IMG_20200726_182410.jpg?ex=67b90b3c&is=67b7b9bc&hm=eb5de47438b2382b227a8aa1ed92c3c2e87fbcb699adf952b2d43523a96bafb8& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/737088045387612230/IMG_20200726_182413.jpg?ex=67b90b3c&is=67b7b9bc&hm=45f753f9dcabb896eefd3ce4463423da9e3050dcd0d3d7480fd2e4a4486cef85& [7/26/2020 6:24 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb I don't think this one could have run better {Reactions} ❤️ (2) [7/26/2020 6:25 PM] skyspook Wow! [7/26/2020 6:25 PM] skyspook That turned out great [7/26/2020 6:25 PM] hon1nbo And the CRC Moly dry lube for stainless as a Cermark replacement is pretty effective {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/737088247607591044/IMG_20200726_182501.jpg?ex=67b90b6c&is=67b7b9ec&hm=713faf71622166560513f64086271b9868c53ed7014e37a8fa4456a2c5d5a246& [7/26/2020 6:28 PM] michaelb5250 Nice! I like the way the purple turned into more of a blue that's really cool. [7/26/2020 7:11 PM] hon1nbo Yeah that was a super nice effect. 100s/30p with the grey scaling. Never did get the proper colour separation of processes to work [7/26/2020 7:11 PM] skyspook Need to figure that out at some point [7/26/2020 7:12 PM] hon1nbo For the stainless ran the CRC at 30s / 100p for the first pass and 10s /100p for the second pass. Will test if the latter settings work solo on another piece [7/28/2020 10:48 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/737879176195080263/IMG_20200728_224753.jpg?ex=67b94908&is=67b7f788&hm=b2d574e9bec9753d31486226777c959c43bce860807ece9d1f04a2601677ddc8& [7/28/2020 10:48 PM] skyspook More dry moly? [7/28/2020 10:48 PM] hon1nbo Most excellent results with CRC Moly dry lube using 100p/3s [7/28/2020 10:48 PM] hon1nbo Yup [7/28/2020 10:48 PM] skyspook Nice [7/28/2020 10:49 PM] hon1nbo Doing some Sake cups right now [7/28/2020 10:49 PM] hon1nbo Would be much better if they weren't white but it's a good ceramic test [7/28/2020 10:49 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/737879504961273906/IMG_20200728_224743.jpg?ex=67b94957&is=67b7f7d7&hm=d46334d1c8f59c06061b5f8767a8abfb89de9dcde27ed3f7ccd6df82814a6151& {Reactions} 👍 [7/28/2020 10:49 PM] skyspook That could open up some interesting things [7/28/2020 10:51 PM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/737879828740571236/IMG_20200728_225054.jpg?ex=67b949a4&is=67b7f824&hm=587908953cd07596a525b693fa9bd564a6b4d5f7ee9a4479748cdf8607aa4f7f& [7/28/2020 10:54 PM] ferricyanide7475 Kan? Same cup as 20s? [7/28/2020 10:56 PM] hon1nbo Kanpai And same settings, just I made one with the settings to leave in the laser area {Reactions} 👍 [7/28/2020 10:57 PM] ferricyanide7475 Ah that makes more sense. [7/28/2020 10:57 PM] ferricyanide7475 Cute [7/31/2020 9:47 AM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738769692914876507/20200731_094637.jpg?ex=67b93aa4&is=67b7e924&hm=312f4c28d7c09b85cbbf4fc3e3ab59cd6bf01d12e843adbf22b4992f9c6eca82& [7/31/2020 9:47 AM] michaelb5250 🤣 [7/31/2020 9:47 AM] themitch22 I mean thats one way to disable air assist [7/31/2020 9:47 AM] michaelb5250 Wohoooo. Gonna suggest it get marked as down until the tube is fixed [7/31/2020 9:48 AM] michaelb5250 How's the lens? [7/31/2020 9:48 AM] skyspook Ouch [7/31/2020 9:48 AM] themitch22 Wait is big thunder not usable? [7/31/2020 9:48 AM] michaelb5250 Well, with no air assist it'll kill the lens pretty quick [7/31/2020 9:49 AM] themitch22 Ok so I will shut it down and leave a note [7/31/2020 9:50 AM] michaelb5250 Yeah... could move the tube out of the way and tape it up, that might work. [7/31/2020 9:50 AM] themitch22 Which ones have a usable tube [7/31/2020 9:50 AM] themitch22 I dont have any blue painters tape to patch it [7/31/2020 9:50 AM] michaelb5250 There's electrical tape in the black cabinet next to the fusion. Top shelf [7/31/2020 9:51 AM] michaelb5250 Might work better than masking tape anyways. [7/31/2020 9:51 AM] michaelb5250 Long term.... I'll look at moving that cable track and everything back a little bit so the tube won't reach around front. [7/31/2020 10:00 AM] themitch22 Looks like it works for now [7/31/2020 10:01 AM] themitch22 I use to have 6mm tubing and couplers for pneumatics [7/31/2020 10:02 AM] michaelb5250 We probably have some in all the laser spare parts bins but it'd take some digging so this will work for now [7/31/2020 10:22 AM] themitch22 Not that I'm already going to have my hands full here volunteering but if you need some simple laser stuff done I can help [7/31/2020 10:23 AM] themitch22 Huge improvement over the arrangement a year ago [7/31/2020 10:23 AM] themitch22 Quieter dust collection, the automatic turn on, etc [7/31/2020 10:26 AM] skyspook I can poke at it this weekend too. I promise I won't destroy it this time... [7/31/2020 10:26 AM] themitch22 I need to actually use lightburn [7/31/2020 10:26 AM] skyspook It's much better than the other software [7/31/2020 10:26 AM] skyspook I find, at least [7/31/2020 11:10 AM] kenpurcell oooopsies [7/31/2020 11:10 AM] skyspook For some reason I keep thinking "stop hitting yourself" [7/31/2020 11:29 AM] themitch22 Hmm no communication to blitzen from rdworks or lightburn [7/31/2020 11:31 AM] michaelb5250 Justin found it was a USB connector issue on the laser end. I never got a chance to move the cable from the external plug into the controller. [7/31/2020 11:31 AM] themitch22 So try jiggling the connection? [7/31/2020 11:32 AM] michaelb5250 Yeah pretty much [7/31/2020 11:32 AM] themitch22 Yeah not happening big thunder it is [7/31/2020 11:33 AM] themitch22 Whats the com port supposed to show [7/31/2020 11:33 AM] michaelb5250 Not sure really [7/31/2020 11:34 AM] themitch22 It kind of just doesn't do anything {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738796676164091904/JPEG_20200731_113403.jpg?ex=67b953c5&is=67b80245&hm=ee7fa9c2cc1b46b8d154f6304be5e58a53a91e8d37a07f935dc0ff1bb0f3838c& [7/31/2020 11:34 AM] themitch22 Both apps lock up [7/31/2020 11:34 AM] themitch22 So we need a longer USB cable [7/31/2020 11:35 AM] themitch22 I can internally route it if that works tomorrow i don't have the key to open it [7/31/2020 11:35 AM] michaelb5250 Should be a brand new USB cable in the common room, art picked it up off amazon on monday. [7/31/2020 11:36 AM] themitch22 Ok ill look for it. The controller board is on the left side of the machine? [7/31/2020 11:36 AM] michaelb5250 No, it's on the difficult (right) side [7/31/2020 11:36 AM] michaelb5250 part of why I didn't get a chance to do it. [7/31/2020 11:37 AM] themitch22 So remove the extension port. Run the wire though the hole and into the right side cabinet [7/31/2020 11:37 AM] themitch22 Or replace the panel mount extension [7/31/2020 11:37 AM] michaelb5250 I don't have a panel mount extension yet. It's on the list [7/31/2020 11:37 AM] themitch22 They have etherner why don't we use it [7/31/2020 11:38 AM] michaelb5250 Uhh... I've never tried tbh [7/31/2020 11:38 AM] themitch22 Infrastructure's heads would 'splode lol [7/31/2020 11:38 AM] michaelb5250 Nah, fusion is already running on ethernet [7/31/2020 11:38 AM] michaelb5250 but [7/31/2020 11:39 AM] michaelb5250 it's a completely seperate 'machine specific' vlan so it's not straightforward [7/31/2020 11:39 AM] skyspook May need to unplug the machine as well since the power switch is on that panel [7/31/2020 11:39 AM] themitch22 Also lightburn probably doesn't have a way to connect to it over the network? [7/31/2020 11:39 AM] michaelb5250 I'm not sure how the ethernet works in rdworks/lightburn, it would probably throw people off. And they might be able to send a job to the wrong laser? [7/31/2020 11:40 AM] skyspook It can do ethernet, just needs to be setup correctly... In a way we don't know yet :) [7/31/2020 11:40 AM] themitch22 Is there an Octoprint for Chinese lasers {Reactions} 🐙 (2) [7/31/2020 11:40 AM] skyspook Another reason for me to script the machine config for LB [7/31/2020 11:41 AM] themitch22 It auto adds the laser as a GRBL compatible machine [7/31/2020 11:41 AM] themitch22 But not sure if that's right [7/31/2020 11:41 AM] skyspook Oh, I know [7/31/2020 11:41 AM] skyspook It's not [7/31/2020 11:41 AM] skyspook Need to be Ruida [7/31/2020 11:41 AM] skyspook I spent too much time figuring that out one day [7/31/2020 11:43 AM] themitch22 Light burn supports Ruida [7/31/2020 11:43 AM] themitch22 But still no serial com [7/31/2020 11:44 AM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738799213416022066/JPEG_20200731_114406.jpg?ex=67b95622&is=67b804a2&hm=11c0bf2412ab9323957af4d6e6f49254ff7440aa86ba492b8153721276cf729d& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738799213722337402/JPEG_20200731_114415.jpg?ex=67b95622&is=67b804a2&hm=9633d892c2a164ea43eac36a62cb11fa17d1252b862c21e6bba005e7bbcded07& [7/31/2020 11:44 AM] themitch22 Ethernet UDP? [7/31/2020 11:44 AM] skyspook Trying to setup the ethernet? That's probably it [7/31/2020 11:45 AM] themitch22 No tried usb serial and packet both no go [7/31/2020 11:46 AM] skyspook normal is usb serial for the usb connection. Should show up as a COM port. It was Com 10 last I saw, but it can chnage [7/31/2020 11:46 AM] skyspook If it's not showing up, the connection just needs to be worked on [7/31/2020 11:48 AM] hon1nbo @michaelb @Skyspook we sure Blitzen it's just a loose connector? I even tried setting up the Ethernet device controller at one point and, whilst the machine was visible to the PC, it still wouldn't accept downloads [7/31/2020 11:49 AM] skyspook No, but I did sit there and wiggle then laser-side connector and watched the com port come and go [7/31/2020 11:49 AM] themitch22 Ok solution: create machine in Lightburn with Ruida firmware, then save file as .rd onto flash drive. Load flash drive on laser and copy to memory [7/31/2020 11:49 AM] themitch22 That seems to work [7/31/2020 11:49 AM] skyspook Though there may be more than one problem, or something may be wrong with the connection internally [7/31/2020 11:50 AM] skyspook @themitch22 winner! [7/31/2020 11:51 AM] themitch22 It definitely recognized com 10 when I plugged it in so thats it [7/31/2020 11:51 AM] themitch22 Ok it worked when I clicked start [7/31/2020 11:52 AM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738801162345775135/JPEG_20200731_115200.jpg?ex=67b957f3&is=67b80673&hm=b8dc367f6ffda536f611d4a36c40c3a848c55181c194e8296b5817f954910f82& [7/31/2020 11:52 AM] themitch22 Interesting [7/31/2020 11:52 AM] themitch22 Don't think it's a com port issue just software being dumb [7/31/2020 11:52 AM] skyspook Send should upload the file now [7/31/2020 11:52 AM] skyspook Well, you'd think, but there's just a lot of flakiness going on [7/31/2020 11:53 AM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738801406080712734/JPEG_20200731_115257.jpg?ex=67b9582d&is=67b806ad&hm=c50280679a63f0214f1a5ff6cba8c8b017ca7b4b30cb919dfe498478bba1ff89& [7/31/2020 11:53 AM] themitch22 Yay [7/31/2020 11:53 AM] themitch22 Too late because the big thunder is almost done [7/31/2020 11:53 AM] skyspook Lol [7/31/2020 11:54 AM] themitch22 Anyway hope Joe random user figures that out.... [7/31/2020 11:54 AM] hon1nbo > No, but I did sit there and wiggle then laser-side connector and watched the com port come and go @Skyspook So the COM port was active when the downloads would still fail [7/31/2020 11:55 AM] skyspook Could be an issue with the interface board as well. [7/31/2020 11:55 AM] themitch22 Rdworks just would sit and spin forever when I tried downloading my file. Lightburn had to have the right firmware Ruida and com 10, and I had to press the right buttons to have it show ready apparently [7/31/2020 11:56 AM] skyspook Shouldn't be that hard. Though I'm loathe to take it apart to check things until we have donner running again... Just in case [7/31/2020 11:56 AM] themitch22 Thats a piece of cake compared to the polyprinter octoprints that will randomly disconnect constantly [7/31/2020 11:57 AM] skyspook I figured out some of that too, at least for .91 [7/31/2020 11:57 AM] skyspook Our usb cables just suck [7/31/2020 11:57 AM] themitch22 Flash drives and SD cards, bring your own and just disconnect all tools here (except the multicam because why make that easy), done [7/31/2020 11:58 AM] skyspook Lol [7/31/2020 11:59 AM] themitch22 We invest $1000 in monster/anker usb cables and lots of zipties and hot glue to protect them? [7/31/2020 12:00 PM] skyspook Nah, the problem is the usb standard wasn't originally designed for the number of inserts or physical strain we put them under [7/31/2020 12:00 PM] themitch22 Kind of tried for the polyprinters I thought, i had the usb cables ziptied to the pi cases. [7/31/2020 12:00 PM] skyspook In .91's case, the cable to the internal control board is loose [7/31/2020 12:00 PM] skyspook Couldn't tell if it was the cable or port [7/31/2020 12:01 PM] themitch22 I could bypass the polyprinter panel extensions and do 90 degree micro usb to the pi [7/31/2020 12:02 PM] themitch22 I've never really had problems with usb connections but DMS is a special place [7/31/2020 12:03 PM] themitch22 I'm 100% for ethernet connections to machines but unless Polyprinter wants to retrofit Duet Ethernet boards on their printers, we stick with USB [7/31/2020 12:03 PM] skyspook Type A is only rated for 1500 insertions, mini is 5000 [7/31/2020 12:03 PM] skyspook How many curious people does it take to go over that? :) [7/31/2020 12:03 PM] themitch22 I could pot the whole thing in epoxy [7/31/2020 12:03 PM] skyspook Lol. Do it [7/31/2020 12:04 PM] themitch22 Or solder the usb directly [7/31/2020 12:04 PM] themitch22 I'm sure pearce would appreciate it [7/31/2020 12:05 PM] themitch22 The thunderlasers really have been reliable controller wise considering how much they are used and abused [7/31/2020 12:05 PM] skyspook May have just reached the lifetime of one, who knows? [7/31/2020 12:05 PM] skyspook How old is blitzen? [7/31/2020 12:06 PM] themitch22 1000s of lifetimes according to lore [7/31/2020 12:06 PM] themitch22 How many tubes old is Blitzen is the real question [7/31/2020 12:07 PM] skyspook 🤔 [7/31/2020 12:12 PM] michaelb5250 They've both outlived old big thunder. I would love to keep them going long enough to make a solid argument for replacing both with a single fusion pro 48, but I'm not comfortable enough with the fusion and I don't think we're in a good spot financially to do it right now. [7/31/2020 12:26 PM] skyspook I'm happy to help keep them running. I think it's solvable, just needs a bit of love [7/31/2020 12:26 PM] themitch22 Whats the iPad passcode [7/31/2020 12:26 PM] themitch22 Nope iPad is disabled [7/31/2020 12:26 PM] skyspook Can't just back out? Usually it's just someone tried to void out an order or something [7/31/2020 12:26 PM] skyspook Ah [7/31/2020 12:26 PM] themitch22 Can I IOU? [7/31/2020 12:27 PM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738809980236464158/JPEG_20200731_122701.jpg?ex=67b96029&is=67b80ea9&hm=08482f703ba150ef1b8a6ba87b0576e1c788701051a40bb702e40b929e0c3a4c& [7/31/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 no worries. [7/31/2020 12:27 PM] michaelb5250 thats... annoying [7/31/2020 12:27 PM] themitch22 I'll just pay later today $12 1 hour. [7/31/2020 12:28 PM] themitch22 And 2 hours of messing with software and no burning all the way through the mdf [7/31/2020 12:32 PM] themitch22 Could have plasma cut this out of steel in 15 min lol [7/31/2020 12:32 PM] skyspook Lol. That'll teach you [7/31/2020 12:34 PM] themitch22 Even the multicam even a simple job takes 3 hours [7/31/2020 12:35 PM] michaelb5250 Maybe that's the trade off with community tools. Cost goes down, time to use goes up. [7/31/2020 12:36 PM] themitch22 If i could paid to be unemoyed or retired I see the benefit [7/31/2020 12:36 PM] themitch22 This laser job was for work actually thsts even why im up before noon on a Friday [7/31/2020 12:36 PM] michaelb5250 I'll be in this evening to do brake work on the truck. While it's cooling down I'll take a look at the USB cable and iPad. [7/31/2020 12:36 PM] themitch22 I'll be there tonight battleboting [7/31/2020 12:37 PM] michaelb5250 Oh I don't feel so bad you got paid for your frustrations 😝 [7/31/2020 12:37 PM] themitch22 And tomorrow cnc routing and 3d fab meeting [7/31/2020 12:37 PM] themitch22 True but I have a large format printer to run today [7/31/2020 12:38 PM] themitch22 And now i know why dms doesn't have a large format printer those print heads need constant purging and cleanijg [7/31/2020 12:39 PM] michaelb5250 Yupppp I've got a couple prints from a friend who would just run stuff in their plotter to keep the heads clean [7/31/2020 12:39 PM] themitch22 Unless we want to have a BYO $500 print heads [7/31/2020 12:39 PM] themitch22 $8000 in my case [7/31/2020 12:39 PM] michaelb5250 Cron job, send off some junk to the printer once a night. I believe if you keep it in use it doesn't get as bad. [7/31/2020 12:39 PM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738813177319391283/JPEG_20200728_153905.jpg?ex=67b96323&is=67b811a3&hm=2d312f8262852b444d4446fc795b634c5c9edd24272cef6f9c8414b536142e50& [7/31/2020 12:39 PM] themitch22 This was a head cleaning print [7/31/2020 12:40 PM] skyspook @themitch22 - Did you guys actually get to go film battlebots stuff before Covid nonsense hit? [7/31/2020 12:40 PM] themitch22 Its been postponed to October [7/31/2020 12:40 PM] themitch22 Or so we are told [7/31/2020 12:40 PM] themitch22 We are prepping like we are going in October [7/31/2020 12:41 PM] skyspook That's the smart thing. Guess we'll find out 🙂 [7/31/2020 12:41 PM] themitch22 And driving to long Beach instead of flying. We get tested before and after and twice a week [7/31/2020 12:41 PM] themitch22 The pits are separated [7/31/2020 12:41 PM] themitch22 Cast and crew will probably be isolated too [7/31/2020 12:42 PM] themitch22 I need to lesrn the embroidery machine so we can make jackets [7/31/2020 12:43 PM] themitch22 Logan has been at dms welding the second frame [7/31/2020 12:43 PM] themitch22 We might need a third [7/31/2020 12:43 PM] themitch22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/738814143745884262/JPEG_20200728_144038.jpg?ex=67b9640a&is=67b8128a&hm=9d3fc544e11f2d211cec82417491a91222f35e88e5c385bf545c62767162b3fb& [7/31/2020 12:43 PM] themitch22 Test print for our banners [7/31/2020 12:44 PM] themitch22 Btw Sendcutsend.com I'm going to plug here because this is the laser chat [7/31/2020 12:44 PM] themitch22 Since our fiber laser is a pipedream their service is great [7/31/2020 12:47 PM] themitch22 Haha i should get a raycon nordvpn squarespace sponsorship nobody will want to talk to me as a sell out [7/31/2020 12:48 PM] skyspook lmao [7/31/2020 12:48 PM] skyspook Though you could probably get them to sponsor you. They do everyone else 😉 [7/31/2020 12:49 PM] skyspook I did like the gears and such I saw. If I have need for metal parts like that, they're on my list. [7/31/2020 1:28 PM] themitch22 I want to make some project with metal just to try them out for thin stuff [7/31/2020 2:47 PM] yashsedai ugh [7/31/2020 2:47 PM] yashsedai who messed with it [7/31/2020 2:47 PM] yashsedai i hate it when people keep punching buttons until they lock it out [7/31/2020 3:03 PM] robert22 https://youtu.be/WAI7Lu4UFi4 {Embed} TheBackyardScientist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAI7Lu4UFi4 200 Watt car mounted laser! Visit https://bit.ly/30eG6YG and use promo code H4MUUKFG5VZY to get 5% off when purchasing the DJI Mavic Mini or Mavic Mini Fly More Combo I have been wanting to make this laser FOREVER and i could have made a hour long video on it. But dont worry, I have much more planned ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/VQ6l1Ta4NFbW2RqTt9sXdPR48S9PoxiX2awlDlgwWqY/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/WAI7Lu4UFi4/maxresdefault.jpg [7/31/2020 4:37 PM] michaelb5250 Ohhhh so, death ray? [7/31/2020 4:37 PM] skyspook We can put it on the remote controlled car [7/31/2020 4:38 PM] michaelb5250 Ohhh yeah! [7/31/2020 5:22 PM] kenpurcell Oh if the FDA or FAA see that his ass is toast. [7/31/2020 5:23 PM] michaelb5250 I like the 'we checked the flight radar for 100 miles, we're ok' comment. [7/31/2020 5:28 PM] kenpurcell Funny enough that is the same type and power fiber laser that was in the Lisa Sinterit that was donated. [7/31/2020 5:31 PM] michaelb5250 Oh nice! I think I found it on AliExpress for $1700, but it's a 910nm and I'm not sure how it would do in a cutting application. Takes as much cooling as a very high end desktop cpu as well. [7/31/2020 9:35 PM] hardsuit @themitch22 Yo, you might know this [7/31/2020 9:36 PM] hardsuit How much ooomph is in a motor with a stall torque of 68 oz-in? [7/31/2020 10:39 PM] themitch22 At least 5 ooomphs [7/31/2020 10:40 PM] themitch22 But really what are you looking for? [7/31/2020 10:42 PM] andrew5152 it's roughly 1/3 of a ft-lb...so...1/3 of a lb hanging off a 1 ft bar, or a 1 lb hanging off a 4-inch bar... I can't imagine that's helpful, though.... [8/11/2020 9:16 PM] michaelb5250 I heard a rumor that laser has historically avoided RECI for.... reasons. anyone know what those reasons are? [8/11/2020 9:29 PM] canibalcrab we used to get reci tubes with the full spectrum laser [8/11/2020 9:29 PM] canibalcrab and they were trash [8/11/2020 9:29 PM] canibalcrab they would test at way lower than rated power most of the time [8/11/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 and y'all blamed the tubes instead of the full spectrum [8/11/2020 9:30 PM] canibalcrab the tubes werent from FSL [8/11/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 ? [8/11/2020 9:30 PM] canibalcrab we knew FSL was trash too [8/11/2020 9:30 PM] michaelb5250 power supply? [8/11/2020 9:30 PM] canibalcrab had a few of those too [8/11/2020 10:28 PM] kenpurcell RECI was at one time known for having good metal/glass seals. Then went to shit. [8/12/2020 11:03 AM] michaelb5250 https://www.lightobject.com/Laser-Tubes/High-power-GSI-260W-CO2-Sealed-Laser-Tube gotta squeeze one of these in and see how fast we can cut 1/8" plywood. [8/12/2020 11:04 AM] kenpurcell YES! [8/12/2020 11:07 AM] kenpurcell This discussion mentions that GSI tubes are refillable https://www.cnczone.com/forums/general-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-discussion/174351-forum.html [8/12/2020 11:14 AM] michaelb5250 I would actually be up for putting it in big thunder since it would be a good fit for the machine, but I somehow doubt I could pull off a $7k spend at the moment. [8/12/2020 11:14 AM] michaelb5250 Too much else going on. [8/12/2020 11:16 AM] kenpurcell If you are already spending $7k you can get a 500watt fiber for that. But you need a new head and that is another $1-2k. [8/12/2020 11:39 AM] hon1nbo given the current rate of metal shop going anywhere that may be worth it even if it's less than half the output power of our unit [8/12/2020 11:47 AM] canibalcrab Metal could sell the other one to help fund it? [8/12/2020 11:48 AM] canibalcrab Also laser could sell their husk [8/12/2020 11:48 AM] michaelb5250 Sell it or use it as an enclosure and motion system. [8/12/2020 12:13 PM] hon1nbo is the motion system on it good? If so can definitely use it for the metal shop unit [8/12/2020 12:38 PM] skyspook Wait, is this what you're doing instead of finding replacement tubes, @michaelb ? 😉 [8/12/2020 12:58 PM] michaelb5250 Apparently so 😅 [8/12/2020 1:15 PM] skyspook I approve. Carry on. [8/12/2020 1:17 PM] themitch22 We get a bunch of Chinese UV laser diodes and fiber couple them, then make our own [8/12/2020 1:23 PM] michaelb5250 Oh that would be an interesting beast. Only ever seen UV lasers used for PCB manufacturing [8/12/2020 6:52 PM] michaelb5250 https://www.lightobject.com/Laser-Tubes/High-Quality-GSI-130W-CO2-Sealed-Laser-Tube New tubes. [8/12/2020 6:53 PM] skyspook Oooo, those look different [8/12/2020 6:53 PM] skyspook And in the US no less [8/12/2020 6:55 PM] canibalcrab Looks refillable [8/12/2020 6:56 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, it's a 3rd brand, we've tried the other two (RECI and SPT) they offer. No output mirror cooling which has been the failure point for the last three tubes. [8/12/2020 6:58 PM] michaelb5250 It's allegedly refillable, as Ken said above, don't think we could do it ourselves though. Also we haven't had a tube go bad in that manner since I've been here. It's just been mirrors cracking and leaky waterblocks. [8/12/2020 7:01 PM] michaelb5250 Also, kid you not, our recent replacement tubes have shipped from a quilt shop in Whitehouse TX called 'lone star laser co'. Apparently they're the thunder laser people around here. [8/12/2020 7:01 PM] skyspook huh [8/12/2020 7:02 PM] michaelb5250 Lastly, it looks like that 260W tube I posted will fit in big thunder. [8/12/2020 7:04 PM] canibalcrab Thunder is based in quitman tx for the local distributor [8/12/2020 7:04 PM] canibalcrab They probably drop shipped the tubes from lone star [8/12/2020 7:11 PM] michaelb5250 My favorite part was that it's a quilt shop 😂 [8/12/2020 7:24 PM] michaelb5250 Repaired tube somehow works. Gotta reglue the output cooler on it and install it properly. [8/12/2020 7:24 PM] skyspook Neat! [8/12/2020 7:25 PM] skyspook Unless it blows up again 😉 [8/12/2020 7:25 PM] skyspook I never asked, do we have a power meter for testing the tubes? [8/12/2020 7:27 PM] michaelb5250 Well we still approved the purchase for new ones so we'll have a spare. The repaired one is an OG thunder tube which seem to hold up slightly better than the replacements we were buying. [8/12/2020 7:28 PM] michaelb5250 The glorified thermometer is usually in the gladiator cabinet in one of the larger clear/green bins. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/743264774384779314/20200812_192814.jpg?ex=67b91a43&is=67b7c8c3&hm=56bea5da1e8b270f9f377c23223aceae68ce67d94b2ca96110db7a9f6686e5d5& [8/12/2020 7:29 PM] skyspook Looks more meat thermometer than photon measurer [8/12/2020 7:32 PM] canibalcrab It is in fact a thermometer [8/12/2020 7:32 PM] canibalcrab But it works [8/12/2020 7:32 PM] skyspook Just a calibrated one with a known absorption, I would assume [8/12/2020 7:35 PM] michaelb5250 'works' it would be fun to send it out to be recalibrated but yeah it gives approximately the measurements we expect. [8/12/2020 7:35 PM] michaelb5250 I would love to make it a weekly or more thing to run as an indicator for tube life, optics alignment and stuff, but we rarely pull it out as is. [8/12/2020 7:37 PM] canibalcrab It only takes 20 seconds to do it [8/12/2020 7:37 PM] canibalcrab But the backs need to be a bit more accessible [8/12/2020 7:52 PM] michaelb5250 Nah you can run the power measurements from the bed as well, it's a fun way to determine if you're clipping the beam or have dirty optics. [8/12/2020 7:53 PM] michaelb5250 I don't trust the actual watt number to begin with, I'm more interested in how it changes over time. [8/12/2020 8:50 PM] kenpurcell Graphing over time shows tube decline. The interim jumps up/down does help with knowing we need to do alignment checks. [8/12/2020 10:19 PM] michaelb5250 Tube installed, reglued. When the glue dries we can connect up the water lines, fill it up, make sure it hasn't broken again and do an alignment. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/743307814071566366/20200812_221858.jpg?ex=67b94258&is=67b7f0d8&hm=facfa1e81771508943533c64dcc0639323eb1b77367b93313bb868d79496107c& [8/12/2020 10:20 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, and it needs the ground wire soldered together first. [8/12/2020 10:20 PM] skyspook That's just slightly important [8/12/2020 10:21 PM] themitch22 just screw the grounds to the chassis right? [8/12/2020 10:24 PM] judykriehn3727 So Stitching Heaven is a thunder laser distributor? [8/12/2020 10:25 PM] michaelb5250 The HV tends to find its own ground if it gets disconnected, it'll still work. Just slightly more deadly! [8/14/2020 9:09 PM] michaelb5250 Welp. Laser tube did not fire today. Not sure what's up with that [8/14/2020 9:09 PM] skyspook boo [8/15/2020 11:55 PM] skyspook @michaelb - blitzen is very slow and noisy when moving the axes manually. But it can run itself at normal speed. Hiw do we fix that? [8/15/2020 11:57 PM] canibalcrab someone changed the movement speed [8/15/2020 11:57 PM] skyspook That's what we thought. But changing the number under speed didn't seem to work [8/15/2020 11:58 PM] skyspook I even turned it off and on again :) [8/16/2020 12:05 AM] michaelb5250 Slow it down maybe it's missing steps? Idk that speed setting should do it. [8/16/2020 12:05 AM] michaelb5250 Like 1000 is normal for me [8/16/2020 12:18 AM] skyspook https://photos.app.goo.gl/ie8oe3yyHeBSKHEM6 {Embed} https://photos.app.goo.gl/ie8oe3yyHeBSKHEM6 New video by Justin Walker https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l5Vc7QKdBNSI0Ider2btcfUi0amI7MX4rPms_O3-Qek/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/iFRyyMt3ScO7izQhahBJ3l_zJvo4Ed9656V2HKR7svmO_CglJaJWXVOOR2AxP9RhO32TUmf5pryjrc5PQBHCAn4tYoKhv6r6XG3CCXiFiaGKuIbQjKqJmY2hbmBeu06G-0THtEaKuqU%3Dw320-h240-p-k-no [8/16/2020 10:27 AM] michaelb5250 It looks like a motor issue but that doesn't explain why it can run normally on a cut. [8/16/2020 10:29 AM] skyspook Very confusing. Cause I recorded that, then immediately after had it go to origin and it was normal [8/16/2020 10:29 AM] skyspook Z axis was behaving the same way [8/16/2020 11:58 AM] andrew5152 as I recall, the plasmacam had something like a "pause after move" setting that could act like this... for the life of me, can't recall where, but if turned on, anything the user did paused after, including just running across the bed. If the machine did it, it worked as per normal. [8/19/2020 4:27 PM] canibalcrab Laser sure has a whole bunch of shit piling up {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/745755917248888914/IMG_20200819_162712.jpg?ex=67b8efd2&is=67b79e52&hm=ec16bb377419b6fee483f4245b6e62d1a6b7972511fcd0cdd0a27170e9245ae4& [8/19/2020 4:37 PM] michaelb5250 😂 [8/19/2020 4:39 PM] skyspook 🤦‍♂️ [8/19/2020 4:53 PM] canibalcrab She's on other tables too [8/19/2020 4:53 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/745762359683055639/IMG_20200819_162655.jpg?ex=67b8f5d2&is=67b7a452&hm=ca567e3139547090d7e48f47cc4182ad96d622dd5a6a0f4b3532f0899ed6dd23& [8/19/2020 4:58 PM] michaelb5250 She's pretty friendly, she'll probably move everything over if you ask. The area itself is... problematic. Stuff gets dropped off at that back table and forgotten, so it doesn't get much use as a laser table, afaik. I know I left a laser tube on it, but I think there's also a random projector screen sitting there? And the box in the back corner has been there for quite some time. [8/19/2020 4:58 PM] skyspook Time to reclaim things for laser then [8/19/2020 5:05 PM] michaelb5250 I'm not sure how to go about that. The table was empty when we opened, but it quickly fills up. I could throw a bunch of laser stuff on it, but then it's equally useless. [8/19/2020 5:12 PM] hon1nbo nice big warning sign about it being for laser only, and start putting things in purgatory [8/19/2020 5:12 PM] hon1nbo is that projector screen the one from DM? [8/19/2020 5:33 PM] michaelb5250 No idea where the screen came from [8/19/2020 5:34 PM] canibalcrab Rich donated a bunch [8/19/2020 5:34 PM] canibalcrab For some reason [8/19/2020 5:35 PM] michaelb5250 I think he's just happy to have a place to offload the 'great deals' he gets at auctions. We've got a couple other people at work like that [8/19/2020 5:45 PM] hon1nbo in all honesty, at least what Rich tends to bring in are either pricier items in good condition or useful. The core problem with DMS is that most committees are loath to get rid of things that "could be useful" I can't tell you how much crap I've thrown out of metal shop that was just useless for practical purposes [8/19/2020 5:46 PM] skyspook But IS mETaL ... could be USefUl [8/19/2020 5:50 PM] andrew5152 yeah, I'm a collector of useless shit. I appreciate you (all) doing that. We need folks to make those hard decisions, because most of us are incapable (apparently). [8/20/2020 12:26 AM] judykriehn3727 I’m incapable of weeding my OWN possessions, but can be pretty ruthless with other people stuff. Had a couple former members helping me plow through the donation from Jeanne Harrell’s estate yesterday. I had been told it was going to be fiberart stuff and jewelry and small metal stuff. Welp, the only vaguely jewelry -related items we found was a mostly empty packet of gold-colored seed beads and one of those stained glass-inset decorative mirrors. (Maybe 6” long oval.) Of the remains gazillion boxes and tubs, six tubs had yarns for weaving, and everything else was fleece. Like a thundering herd of sheep dashed through, flinging their clothes off as the clipclopped through the space. Some had attracted bugs or was otherwise too Icky to keep. I think all told, we downsized the herd by at least a third, and moved mass quantities of moldy boxes to the dumpster. More to figure out to continue the hoard reduction beyond the stuff dreamed appropriate for future classes, but at least it doesn’t feel as overwhelming as it did. {Reactions} ❤️ [8/24/2020 12:11 PM] nullinterface > yeah, I'm a collector of useless shit. @A. Spencer(jast) Same. Came from a family of certifiable packrats. Back in the 80s when companies would present a blank check for relocation, the family moved 3 times - *setting the annual weight record* every year we moved. A 53' trailer would routinely cube out and also be right at the weight limit. [8/24/2020 12:12 PM] nullinterface I mean, they had to load up dad's '49 Suburban with boxes and carefully load it into the back of the trailer for one move... [8/24/2020 12:14 PM] andrew5152 lol [8/24/2020 12:14 PM] nullinterface the icing on the cake was the antique wood-fired cast-iron *kitchen stove* that just occupied a corner of the garage [8/24/2020 12:15 PM] nullinterface never used as anything other than an awkward horizontal surface [8/24/2020 12:16 PM] nullinterface wait. did I say *garage*? I meant *shop*. The folks' house never really had a garage until they moved out of state and dad got an 800 ft² outbuilding shop. [8/24/2020 12:17 PM] nullinterface cars parked in the ~~garage~~ *shop* as a novelty the first day of occupying the house and the last day before leaving. [8/24/2020 12:18 PM] andrew5152 oh wow. One for the museum. y'know, on the Oregon trail, they packed their kitchen stove... for me, my grandfather downsized his 50kft^2 machine shop into a 3.5ft^2 shop, that was PACKED to the gills when he had to sell the place. Dad packed THAT into 2 1100ft^2 sheds. I have a 3 car garage with 3 cars in it... My mother took my bride aside and whispered (so I could hear) "do NOT let him pack anything to the rafters, because he will..." and gestured to the shop my dad had at the time... "but I THINK it's getting smaller with each generation, so maybe you'll be OK..." [8/24/2020 12:19 PM] nullinterface the shop was otherwise dominated by a construct referred to as *the aircraft carrier* that ran the length one side that housed some 400 ft³ of storage for lumber, stubby shelves built into the side, and a surface atop which sat other stock, drawer units, shelves, boxes... [8/24/2020 12:19 PM] nullinterface the other side contained dad's stationary power tools for woodworking [8/24/2020 12:22 PM] andrew5152 well, you've got a good start with your 2017, 18, 19 shed... [8/24/2020 12:22 PM] andrew5152 😄 [8/24/2020 1:20 PM] nullinterface the city *will not* allow me to build another outbuilding [8/24/2020 1:28 PM] andrew5152 lol [8/24/2020 1:32 PM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/747523720939176016/eric_mole.PNG?ex=67b96f77&is=67b81df7&hm=a071f11f0822c26e4ec254f5cb455aea9c7ebc445aa36500985086dbf9858245& [8/24/2020 1:34 PM] nullinterface subterranean structures do fascinate, however permitting is a challenge and amateur-built tunnels have a nasty habit of collapsing, flooding, or both ... and the authorities take a dim view of them. [8/24/2020 2:00 PM] kenpurcell shit ya'll are funny. Looks over shoulder to a baby grand piano with a laser cutter on it. [8/24/2020 2:02 PM] andrew5152 lol [8/24/2020 2:46 PM] nullinterface I hear you're not really living it up until you have a wood lathe in your dining room [8/24/2020 2:53 PM] kenpurcell Ahhh that is Mr. Blatz [8/24/2020 6:26 PM] themitch22 4x8 Cnc mill in an apartment living room is my dream [8/24/2020 6:35 PM] michaelb5250 4"x8"? That might fit. [8/24/2020 6:42 PM] skyspook It'd fit in mine, but then I have no room for VR [8/24/2020 6:42 PM] themitch22 If its strong it could be a motion platform. [8/24/2020 6:54 PM] michaelb5250 Oh you'd have plenty of room. That's hardly a third of a sheet of paper. [8/24/2020 8:04 PM] skyspook Took me this long to realize you put inches... pretty sneaky there, or I'm just slow [8/24/2020 8:04 PM] skyspook Maybe both [8/24/2020 8:09 PM] themitch22 I mean I am building a 4x8" CNC but a 4'x8' CNC would be preferable [9/8/2020 1:25 PM] jackb923 Hey I recently just joined DMS, and am trying to get certified with the laser cutter. Seems like the only class for the rest of the year is full (this week), will there be other opportunities posted? [9/8/2020 1:29 PM] michaelb5250 Yes, most definitely. A lot of our laser training is sporadic at the moment, due to covid and a few other changes (new laser, no online courses). There are a few talk posts requesting laser training, you could post there or message some of the teachers that have replied to those threads directly. [9/8/2020 1:46 PM] jackb923 thank you! [9/8/2020 1:49 PM] hon1nbo also classes often don't hit the calendar until the week of the class, as teachers are all volunteers figuring out when they have time [9/8/2020 1:49 PM] hon1nbo so check often [9/9/2020 11:24 AM] michaelb5250 Donner update, it's still down, but the tube is installed and firing. Roughly aligned. but it will take a lot more tweaking before it's ready to go. [9/9/2020 11:25 AM] michaelb5250 Ordered some torque seal so I can mark all the alignment screws when it's done. [9/9/2020 11:28 AM] skyspook Nice [9/9/2020 11:29 AM] skyspook Did Freddy get the computer back to control it? [9/9/2020 11:30 AM] yashsedai still working on it [9/9/2020 11:30 AM] yashsedai if i have time ill finish it today [9/9/2020 11:32 AM] skyspook Cool. Was just curious -- no hurry since it's not up yet 🙂 [9/9/2020 11:36 AM] michaelb5250 Still need a monitor for it, so... no rush 😅 [9/9/2020 11:40 AM] skyspook Comeon, get your act together michael 😉 [9/9/2020 11:43 AM] themitch22 I got a monitor in the back of my car if you want it [9/9/2020 11:44 AM] michaelb5250 I'm sure we can finagle a temporary one. Just sent art an email about it, so hopefully gets here next week. [9/9/2020 12:31 PM] kenpurcell Thanks gents! [9/11/2020 5:31 PM] michaelb5250 Will anyone have some time tonight at DMS to help align Donner? I'd like to give it another go but it's a bit annoying to do alone. [9/11/2020 5:44 PM] skyspook I won't be around tonight. Could help later this weekend if needed [9/11/2020 5:53 PM] themitch22 I might be able to help [9/12/2020 2:28 AM] michaelb5250 Donner's test cuts. 1/4" plywood at 80% power and 50mm/s. Red dot needs to be aligned. Rear left Z axis ball screw is rusted solid, so the Z is disabled, but thin materials can still be cut. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/754241985040220210/20200912_022729.jpg?ex=67b8d3d6&is=67b78256&hm=629b3119e61e1bcfb40d13d86c8e05b10bec5134778ecd5a7f8a733be768e753& [9/12/2020 2:28 AM] michaelb5250 Oh, well, all of that when we get the computer set up. [9/12/2020 5:20 PM] judykriehn3727 It looks like you made oyster crackers. {Reactions} 👍 [9/13/2020 2:08 PM] talkers Is the meeting online too? I'm waiting to get in [9/13/2020 2:09 PM] michaelb5250 Yup, just got started. If you sign in with your DMS google account you don't have to wait to be let in. [9/13/2020 2:10 PM] talkers Or check those waiting to join? [9/13/2020 2:10 PM] michaelb5250 I wasn't in the meeting. [9/13/2020 2:11 PM] canibalcrab Or use the Google accounts so the people running the meeting can run the meeting and not play doorman [9/13/2020 2:11 PM] talkers Or keep the meetings public [9/13/2020 2:11 PM] michaelb5250 We're not keeping anyone out... [9/13/2020 2:12 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/754781553640603729/Screenshot_20200913-141217.jpg?ex=67b8d019&is=67b77e99&hm=42f4eba3ec156d4eb31b29dc8817dca96857c24502cd4e7251d3cd35578e1f48& [9/13/2020 2:12 PM] canibalcrab As a member you get an account [9/13/2020 2:12 PM] canibalcrab :palmface: [9/13/2020 2:13 PM] talkers Yeah, add that to the instructions for meetings for laser. No other committee requires it [9/13/2020 2:13 PM] michaelb5250 I added you. I guess you left? Don't see where to add you again. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/754781938799083591/Screen_Shot_2020-09-13_at_2.13.21_PM.png?ex=67b8d075&is=67b77ef5&hm=492a0a0fc25cd367767d55ff53d930b772c39c89078dde55ce2d201e87580282& [9/13/2020 2:14 PM] talkers Timed out [9/13/2020 2:14 PM] talkers No, shows still waiting [9/13/2020 3:09 PM] talkers Thank you @michaelb Good meeting. [9/13/2020 3:31 PM] michaelb5250 5/8" Baltic Birch. Not recommended but fun to play with. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/754801526416998550/20200913_153114.jpg?ex=67b8e2b3&is=67b79133&hm=e00d1e43d67d4bd0a0ff53132274723342361657a80d21bb8bba24bf2fe83bb4& [9/13/2020 3:34 PM] talkers Very fun. Try the long throw lens! [9/13/2020 3:35 PM] talkers Rather clean cut too [9/13/2020 8:02 PM] cecilsan Can anyone tell me if any of the lasers are operational? Don't want to make the drive if they arent [9/13/2020 8:02 PM] cecilsan Based on Talk it seems as they are all down [9/13/2020 8:15 PM] michaelb5250 I've stopped telling people blitzen works. I can use it, but for some reason others have trouble. It's a bit annoying 😂 [9/13/2020 8:15 PM] michaelb5250 If you do go, I'd appreciate some pictures of big thunder if possible. The report on talk left much to be desired... [9/13/2020 10:19 PM] themitch22 The fusion is being unused right now if you were lucky enough to get trained on it [9/13/2020 11:15 PM] cecilsan I left not long ago. Blitzen and Big Thunder were working. Apparently the air assist tube came loose. It was fixed by another user {Reactions} 👍 (2) [9/13/2020 11:49 PM] michaelb5250 Sweet! Thanks for the update [9/15/2020 3:42 PM] kenpurcell yes buddy {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/755529043083788399/119425147_2680015885594213_5199289216734069044_n.jpg?ex=67b8e540&is=67b793c0&hm=4aa8e9b62ffe76438de457dbb7aecf5fede2aa6aa9b6f463e2ecaf3a16e5edc1& [9/15/2020 3:43 PM] skyspook Wonder what the settings are to toast bread [9/15/2020 3:48 PM] andrew5152 all that, and he forgot to cut it on the proper bias...now, now, no sailboats 😦 [9/15/2020 3:54 PM] kenpurcell Just do not cut pumpkins, stinks so bad. Light marking on a pumpkin pie however smells great. I have made raster candy on my laser. Put a tray of 50:50 powdered and plain sugar and raster at 3-5% power. {Reactions} 👍 [9/19/2020 2:27 PM] michaelb5250 Donner's computer is set up. Should be good to go as soon as we can log in to it. The network light flashes on the switch, and the PC, but no network connection to the computer. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/756959675542667445/20200919_142725.jpg?ex=67b8d3a2&is=67b78222&hm=9f55da20b50b05f8982a62fcc7fd6d82b32e7f209461aae92fe4e3f2dc9a4617& [9/19/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250 Also, @Skyspook if that Lightburn script is working we might need to make a few changes in the next week or so. Moving to ethernet for the lasers instead of USB. Just used it for Donner, much impress. Fewer cables too. [9/19/2020 3:08 PM] talkers Excellent. Thank you @michaelb and @Skyspook [9/20/2020 3:12 PM] walteravoir Anyone up there right now? Are the lasers busy/operational? I have a bit of a drive [9/20/2020 3:12 PM] talkers https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Area_cameras {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Area_cameras Area cameras [9/20/2020 3:13 PM] talkers You can see the laser area [9/20/2020 3:13 PM] walteravoir Whatttttt [9/20/2020 3:13 PM] walteravoir Thanks! [9/20/2020 3:13 PM] talkers ✌️ [9/22/2020 10:31 AM] themitch22 @michaelb you still selling the old thunderlaser? [9/22/2020 10:33 AM] canibalcrab https://media.tenor.com/images/38241b7bfb28c6b3f67566aaa6b8ea8c/tenor.gif {Embed} https://media.tenor.com/images/38241b7bfb28c6b3f67566aaa6b8ea8c/tenor.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xDlj78cwMxFyk07hNLokZSPvHPgjuo4nnn83dTjlHfA/https/media.tenor.com/images/38241b7bfb28c6b3f67566aaa6b8ea8c/tenor.gif [9/22/2020 10:36 AM] themitch22 But functional? Needs a new tube, belts, lenses? [9/22/2020 10:37 AM] canibalcrab New tube, new power supply, control board is fucky [9/22/2020 10:37 AM] canibalcrab I'd imagine mirrors and lenses got used by now [9/22/2020 10:37 AM] canibalcrab Mirrors and lenses are 175 from thunder [9/22/2020 10:43 AM] michaelb5250 Yeah we're looking at sending it to auction. Haven't decided on getting someone to handle eBay or a local auction house. [9/22/2020 10:44 AM] michaelb5250 New tube, power supply. Mirrors should still be there. We haven't scavenged much more than that. Mechanical parts probably need a once over they were not in great shape last I remember. It was a pita to keep it in alignment. [9/22/2020 10:44 AM] michaelb5250 If we wait to long it might be missing one ball screw because Donner's is rusted solid. [9/22/2020 10:46 AM] canibalcrab Oh did donnors rust up because the tube leaked onto that corner? [9/22/2020 10:47 AM] canibalcrab What was the determination for keeping the brass from corroding in the future? [9/22/2020 10:47 AM] michaelb5250 We kept the brass from corroding by buying tubes that don't contain brass 😛 [9/22/2020 10:48 AM] michaelb5250 Not sure why the screw rusted so bad, its shouldn't have gotten wet when the tube leaked, but it might have [9/22/2020 10:48 AM] michaelb5250 that's the corner where the leak was [9/22/2020 10:50 AM] canibalcrab One of the lasers was leaking into the back corner [9/22/2020 10:51 AM] michaelb5250 Yeah, but not into the cutting area where the screw is. [9/22/2020 10:52 AM] canibalcrab Water is mysterious [9/22/2020 10:52 AM] canibalcrab Perhaps too much cleaning? Those z rods are supposed to be pretty greased [9/22/2020 11:33 AM] themitch22 I was trying to get a laser for work, but it seems that old thunderlaser is basically worth its scrap value [9/22/2020 11:38 AM] canibalcrab It probably needs a $1500-2000 in repair [9/22/2020 11:58 AM] themitch22 Thats not too bad, depends on what we expect to sell it for [9/22/2020 12:02 PM] canibalcrab That really is the question [9/28/2020 10:10 PM] hon1nbo Laser is now officially out of CO2 I'm not gonna hook it to the 6 pack line since I think @michaelb was going to try and reseal some spots first or make a better manifold... Or somethinf [9/28/2020 10:11 PM] hon1nbo I'll let him make the swap [10/5/2020 6:44 PM] jupiterscomet How does one get certified to teach laser basics? Also are we starting (small) classes again? [10/5/2020 6:48 PM] michaelb5250 Classes are running, iirc the limit was 3 students per class. Most have been one on one recently, but that's at the discretion of whoever's teaching. [10/5/2020 6:50 PM] michaelb5250 If you'd like to teach (and you're already pretty familiar with the lasers) I can post a train the trainer class up for next week. [10/9/2020 2:38 AM] canibalcrab pew pew laser area complete {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/764029087664177162/20201009_023742.jpg?ex=67b8d649&is=67b784c9&hm=b09229604d03b3a962b6734a7418b3feef17393c476bbd894393eef705e1d40a& {Reactions} 🏆 (4) [10/9/2020 10:46 AM] themitch22 Awesome [10/9/2020 10:47 AM] skyspook Very nice. I like it [10/9/2020 1:48 PM] doug.emes I like you have it, shudder at blocking access to power and door. But your decision as homeowner [10/9/2020 2:12 PM] canibalcrab That's not a door. It's door storage for one that was removed upstairs. I still have to put a hole in the brick for the vent so it's not in its final placement [10/9/2020 2:16 PM] canibalcrab There's a small walkway to the breaker box currently [10/9/2020 2:24 PM] doug.emes Electricians are usually not your svelte slim size, but good to know. [10/9/2020 2:36 PM] hon1nbo I'd assume if an electrician was around I probably don't want a laser in running mode when they're working [10/9/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250 At the end of the day they're not hard to move if needed. We could pull any of the three out at the space for major repairs in probably <15 minutes. [10/9/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250 Which... Might happen to Donner's Z axis screw. We'll see. [10/9/2020 3:09 PM] canibalcrab Yeah and we just had an electrician out to do the line you can see just above the laser. And a 220v plug for big tools later [10/13/2020 7:50 AM] nullinterface I am reminded that I need to consult an electrician Real Soon Now™ [10/18/2020 12:18 PM] canibalcrab https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/402662177846198273/767435966230429706/DSC01817.JPG?width=686&height=1220 {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/402662177846198273/767435966230429706/DSC01817.JPG?width=686&height=1220 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/402662177846198273/767435966230429706/DSC01817.JPG?ex=67b95db0&is=67b80c30&hm=782fe1d6bd519d98e0a882d714f1e724b1e9840c3a8c6c698b2a8bf104186ef2& [10/18/2020 12:18 PM] canibalcrab laserin mirrors [10/18/2020 1:30 PM] skyspook @pearce - That looks really cool. Did you laser the paint off the back and do something? [10/18/2020 1:31 PM] canibalcrab Yeah flip the mirror over and raster the coating off the back {Reactions} 👍 [10/18/2020 1:31 PM] canibalcrab There's a layer of vellum on the back to help diffuse the LEDs better [10/18/2020 1:31 PM] skyspook Sweet. That's a really cool idea. [10/18/2020 1:32 PM] canibalcrab Going to try some big ones later [10/27/2020 12:38 PM] nullinterface Some issues on Blitzen [10/27/2020 12:38 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/770703012041719808/IMG_20201027_123750636.jpg?ex=67b962dd&is=67b8115d&hm=c5f222b340d4ebe1428df944107292470e8bc75042ef1ea35b7390f67e8e5a08& [10/27/2020 12:38 PM] nullinterface I can deal with the lines [10/27/2020 12:39 PM] nullinterface Might also be related to the table not wishing to elevate fully [10/27/2020 12:41 PM] michaelb5250 Hasn't been aligned in a while I think. I've been slacking on the whole committee thing. Sorry [10/27/2020 12:44 PM] nullinterface Works for my purpose. Just letting the committee know. [10/27/2020 2:10 PM] canibalcrab Did you notice if the table was level? [10/27/2020 2:30 PM] nullinterface uhm, seemed level [10/27/2020 2:32 PM] canibalcrab The lines seem faint enough it's probably just the mirrors [10/27/2020 4:59 PM] canibalcrab what was the solution to getting the "go frame" button back on rdworks [10/27/2020 5:28 PM] michaelb5250 Bin it all and use Lightburn, generally. {Reactions} ☝️ [10/27/2020 6:54 PM] canibalcrab Yeah we had free codes for lightburn too [10/29/2020 2:56 PM] nullinterface Big Thunder responsiveness on the control panel is ... *theoretical* [10/29/2020 7:40 PM] nullinterface What's the general strategy for handling soot on cut edges of plywood? [10/29/2020 7:40 PM] skyspook The way I've seen is to cut slightly larger then sand flat. [10/29/2020 8:29 PM] nullinterface I oversize the male tabs already, just wondering if there's a method to minimize the soot or easily remove it [10/29/2020 8:29 PM] skyspook Probably not much on the edges, but could mask it off with tape. might help the surfaces a bit [10/29/2020 8:50 PM] nullinterface Edge cleanup is a lot of the labor with plywood [10/29/2020 8:50 PM] nullinterface I also obsess over the inside edge re: adhesion [10/30/2020 6:08 PM] canibalcrab https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616826034804752400/771859016153956352/DSC01862.JPG {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616826034804752400/771859016153956352/DSC01862.JPG https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/616826034804752400/771859016153956352/DSC01862.JPG?ex=67b8fa39&is=67b7a8b9&hm=9d21c14e2ef7ffaa6a8207b24c34e8284c6a2da4e37e4e8969ea3aa32915d89e& [10/30/2020 6:08 PM] canibalcrab making some lasered mirror lights {Reactions} 🥰 [10/30/2020 6:10 PM] skyspook Those are awesome. Actually gave me some gift ideas 🙂 [10/30/2020 6:15 PM] themitch22 Thats are amazing [10/30/2020 6:25 PM] canibalcrab i have to figure out how to use my table saw correctly for the boxes [10/30/2020 6:37 PM] themitch22 45 degree router bit maybe? [10/30/2020 6:40 PM] canibalcrab yeah but i have a table saw [11/9/2020 10:23 PM] michaelb5250 Fusion power cable, at the PDU end. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/775576403944669204/20201109_222325.jpg?ex=67b95150&is=67b7ffd0&hm=9a753f1a141e249d5d3cdaed903e3b4d7c82a0d1489e29b0988da7d3d2b63cc8& [11/9/2020 10:23 PM] skyspook Hmmmm [11/9/2020 10:24 PM] skyspook That looks suspect [11/9/2020 10:24 PM] skyspook It's like our building wants to catch fire or something [11/9/2020 10:25 PM] michaelb5250 Outlet is 15A, cable is 20A, fusion is 15A. Not really sure why that happened [11/9/2020 10:25 PM] skyspook Could be lots of things. I would send this to our dealer guys, ask if they've seen it before [11/9/2020 10:25 PM] skyspook This is one of their newer machines, maybe something is wonky [11/9/2020 10:27 PM] michaelb5250 True. Wish the PDU was logged, it's a fancy fully monitored thing. Oh well. [11/9/2020 10:38 PM] yashsedai cable got loose and arced? [11/10/2020 5:35 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb I donated a monitored/switched PDU a while back. Last I saw infra wasn't using it. Might ask Andrew if you could use it to evaluate. I may have more sitting in my storage unit still if that one is no longer available [11/10/2020 5:36 PM] hon1nbo I think it's got a C19 on it. It's a 30A PDU with 20A breakers on the banks IIRC [11/10/2020 5:37 PM] hon1nbo > cable got loose and arced? @yashsedai Barring anything else though this is my thought. C19 fittings aren't well suited for where people are moving around the cables. I've had that happen to a couple of them. [11/10/2020 6:10 PM] michaelb5250 I hope this didn't get bumped much. You have to crawl behind Donner to reach it, it was secured so you couldn't just tug it from the other end. Next cable will be a bit longer if I can find one though [11/10/2020 6:20 PM] hon1nbo I'm thinking it would loosen just as people would service the machines. I doubt someone replugs the service side fitting it every time it's aligned / power checked / insert maintenance here [11/10/2020 6:21 PM] hon1nbo Like for leveling and pulse for power metering I know I just use the master switches for power killing than the plug [11/10/2020 6:21 PM] hon1nbo When I have panels open [11/10/2020 6:29 PM] michaelb5250 I'm not sure what you mean, if it's just sitting there, not being tugged on or moved, I'm not sure why it would initially come loose. [11/10/2020 7:29 PM] hon1nbo I mean the act of whoever is servicing the machine walking around it, or someone else being around it for whatever reason. I hadn't looked at the cable management behind the lasers in a while but last I recall there were a number of power cables on the floor someone could briefly snag if they weren't careful [11/11/2020 8:54 AM] kenpurcell This came to PR email: ``` Hi, We’re considering adding a new laser cutter to our scenic studio, and I see that y’all have a 130w Thunder Laser. Would anyone there be willing to give me a brief review of your experience with it? We used to have a FullSpectrum laser, but I am at this point debating between a Boss and a Thunder… Tristan Decker Associate Professor of Professional Practice: Technical Director Department of Theatre Texas Christian University 817-257-6744 Theatre.tcu.edu www.tqdsign.com``` Anyone from Laser want to help him out? [11/11/2020 4:20 PM] talkers Uhhh... I think they should have asked before buying it [11/11/2020 4:20 PM] talkers Oh, they haven't yet! [11/11/2020 4:41 PM] kenpurcell I initially read it the same way [11/11/2020 4:57 PM] talkers My suggestion then is get an Epilog. With a better plug [11/11/2020 5:16 PM] canibalcrab id imagine they are out of that price range if they are looking at thunder and boss [11/20/2020 9:50 AM] skyspook @michaelb - For the fusion, did we figure out what we wanted to do about the PDU? [11/20/2020 9:52 AM] michaelb5250 No. Best answer I have is to buy another cable, make sure it can't budge, and get logging to work on the PDU so we have more data if it happens again. [11/20/2020 10:38 AM] skyspook What kinda cord do we need? [11/20/2020 10:43 AM] michaelb5250 Similar to StarTech's PXTC19C2010 on amazon. [11/20/2020 10:43 AM] michaelb5250 I think the existing cord was a tripplite but I can't find the order. [11/20/2020 10:44 AM] skyspook Cool, I should have it in hand tomorrow then 🙂 [11/20/2020 10:46 AM] michaelb5250 Awesome, thanks! [11/20/2020 10:46 AM] skyspook I won't be able to make it in until the evening, but maybe I'll give the lasers some love and see about the network connections too and such. [11/20/2020 10:47 AM] michaelb5250 That'd be great, I tried a bit Tuesday but didn't make much progress :/ [11/20/2020 10:48 AM] hon1nbo @Skyspook @michaelb last I recall infra had some of those not in service that could get things running whilst waiting on an order or them. Server Store also likely has them [11/20/2020 10:48 AM] hon1nbo C19 cables [11/20/2020 10:48 AM] skyspook Sweet. [11/20/2020 10:48 AM] hon1nbo they're be with those dell blade chassis [11/20/2020 10:49 AM] hon1nbo and if not, Peter likely can throw some our way (C19 to C20 cables) [11/20/2020 10:59 AM] michaelb5250 So 765 was the machine VLAN, it's limited to the local switch. The PCs use a realtek driver to present two virtual interfaces, on 1 and 765. All the Pi's are disconnected for now. There should be a cable for the PDU made up but not plugged in. I was repurposing the Pi cables for the lasers for now. Otherwise, that should be approximately what it is and the plan. The killer has been getting the realtek nics to behave as expected... They're not very good. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/779390548954972180/20201120_105404.jpg?ex=67b959c3&is=67b80843&hm=190febff65051adc150f0ea63426869f3cd8e19c098612fb922b91189bc6c8a7& [11/20/2020 11:03 AM] skyspook Awesome. What's really fun is the subnet mask on the ruida controllers is hardcoded to 255.255.255.0 no matter what you try to input in laser. That took longer than necessary to find out [11/20/2020 11:04 AM] skyspook So we'll need to do appropriate reservations for them all. I can take care of that [11/20/2020 11:05 AM] michaelb5250 I think the idea was that they're all segmented on their own network so we could just chose that VLAN 765 is a /24. [11/20/2020 11:06 AM] michaelb5250 Also, there's a magic password you have to put in on the ruidas to actually change the IP address or gateway. That was a pain to figure out. [11/20/2020 11:11 AM] skyspook Gotcha. And at least we know how to get the wifi enabled on those machines as well, so we won't lock ourselves out messing with the network adapter again 🙂 [11/20/2020 11:11 AM] michaelb5250 Yeah 😅 [11/20/2020 11:25 AM] skyspook And if I get to it, what does that z-axis screw need on donner? Just cleaning up and praying? Or actually diagnosising and maybe needing a new one? [11/20/2020 11:27 AM] skyspook or was it blitzen? I can't keep them straight [11/20/2020 11:27 AM] michaelb5250 I haven't looked to closely. I'm pretty sure it needs a complete replacement. I'm guessing the water from the tube leak got to it somehow and rusted it solid. You're right, it's donner [11/20/2020 11:29 AM] skyspook Either that or someone decided lasering things with chlorine in it would be fun. [11/20/2020 1:01 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb might be worth looking at the Port Based VLAN option the newer firmwares of the netgear switches have. Might be available on that one. You could set a subnet that just isn't routable for the rest of DMS that is between the lasers and computers. {Reactions} 👍 [11/22/2020 3:02 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb do we still have a working light burn discount code? [11/25/2020 1:55 PM] jupiterscomet Hey.... Maybe this is a dumb question, but are we no longer going to be able to use RDworks on the lasers since they are networked? [11/25/2020 1:57 PM] michaelb5250 RDWorks also works with the networking, but we're trying to push people away from it so we didn't provide instructions. And yes, Lightburn licensed will be renewed shortly. [11/25/2020 5:51 PM] skyspook Btw, @michaelb , here's the documentation for that PDU. Doesn't seem too hard to get it connected. https://www.apc.com/shop/in/en/products/Rack-PDU-Metered-Zero-U-32A-230V-20-C13-4-C19/P-AP7853 {Embed} https://www.apc.com/shop/in/en/products/Rack-PDU-Metered-Zero-U-32A-230V-20-C13-4-C19/P-AP7853 Rack PDU, Metered, Zero U, 32A, 230V, (20)C13 & (4)C19 - APC India Rack PDU, Metered, Zero U, 32A, 230V, (20)C13 & (4)C19 [11/25/2020 5:59 PM] yashsedai im curious what information you expect the pdu to provide [11/25/2020 6:00 PM] skyspook He was curious about different draws on it, mostly about if the fusion was drawing more than we thought. [11/25/2020 6:00 PM] yashsedai why not get a clamp meter and test it that way [11/25/2020 6:00 PM] skyspook Cause we have a PDU that logs it all anyway 🙂 [11/25/2020 6:00 PM] yashsedai eh... [11/25/2020 6:00 PM] yashsedai you guys have fun with that [11/25/2020 9:09 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb is anyone aware that there’s the a-axis on dinner is inop? There’s a sign but didn’t see a talk post [11/25/2020 9:10 PM] michaelacks6 Never mind. Looks like it’s an ongoing thing [11/25/2020 9:10 PM] michaelacks6 Sorry [11/25/2020 9:10 PM] skyspook Yep, it was mentioned on the mega-post he made I believe. One of the screws is rusted solid and the motors unplugged [11/25/2020 9:10 PM] skyspook No worries! [11/25/2020 9:10 PM] michaelacks6 Rgr. [11/25/2020 10:49 PM] michaelb5250 No worries, it's an issue but lowish priority because a lot of members can still use it. [12/4/2020 6:27 PM] kenpurcell Found a full can at the jewelry manufacturing place in Highland Village. Were to leave it for laser? [12/4/2020 6:27 PM] kenpurcell {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/784576652264603648/IMG_20201204_182438.jpg?ex=67b919f2&is=67b7c872&hm=2677ea2bd912b42143f36a482abea444666f35c28652fbf2b4c979c28cb8885d& [12/4/2020 6:28 PM] michaelb5250 Oh nice, bottom of the two silver cabinets is perfect. [12/4/2020 6:29 PM] kenpurcell Thanks! Let you know if I get the 50 watt fiber laser/engraver. [12/4/2020 6:29 PM] michaelb5250 Oh that sounds fun. Hope you do! [12/4/2020 9:44 PM] michaelb5250 Lightburn has been licensed on all three computers, wohoo. [12/4/2020 9:44 PM] skyspook success! [12/4/2020 9:47 PM] michaelb5250 Just a note, we've got three keys that are current, however, all the computers are using the same key since it had three activations. Technically, we have a few more activations we could use, but I think we should stick to one key per computer, since that's probably the spirit of the license. [12/9/2020 3:59 PM] michaelacks6 What are the statuses of donner and blitzen? [12/9/2020 4:00 PM] michaelb5250 Blitzen has an air assist issue, Donner should be good to go. [12/9/2020 4:08 PM] michaelacks6 Z-axis is good on donner? [12/9/2020 4:09 PM] michaelacks6 Regarding blitzen, I’m not trained but happy to learn and help fix [12/9/2020 4:09 PM] michaelb5250 Ahh yes, z axis is dead on Donner. [12/9/2020 4:10 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure exactly where the issue is with Blitzen. Something causing the air assist solenoid to not trigger. [12/9/2020 4:10 PM] michaelacks6 Ok [12/9/2020 4:11 PM] michaelacks6 Thanks. As always [12/9/2020 4:12 PM] michaelacks6 I see the post on talk about big thunder tube swap. How complex and roughly how much time needed? [12/9/2020 4:16 PM] michaelb5250 It takes a full alignment, which is the complex part. I'd guess 4-6 hours to get it all done. [12/9/2020 4:16 PM] michaelb5250 I'd be willing to show up sunday to do it if I could get one of two people to be there too. [12/9/2020 4:34 PM] michaelacks6 Let me check with the boss regard Sunday’s schedule and let you know [12/9/2020 7:32 PM] talkers Can someone pm me the code to the laser lock box with the keys to Thunder please? Shaun wants to try to align the mirrors. They are way way off. ,,224.799.0299. I'll check back here too [12/11/2020 8:49 PM] yashsedai @michaelb can you message me? [12/12/2020 7:43 PM] michaelacks6 Hey sorry for the late notice. I will not be able to make it tomorrow. Forgot that my son has a hockey game. [12/12/2020 7:43 PM] michaelacks6 I do still need and want to learn how to maintain these machines though [12/12/2020 8:11 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb And is anyone aware that the laser camera is out? [12/12/2020 8:11 PM] michaelacks6 I know that’s an infrastructure thing [12/12/2020 8:23 PM] michaelb5250 No worries, I think we got one or two people on talk that will be there. [12/13/2020 9:06 AM] skyspook Btw, @michaelb , I tried adding the laser configs to the defaultprefs.ini file for lightburn. We'll see if it works. A copy is in the committee folder [12/13/2020 11:01 AM] michaelb5250 Wohooo [12/13/2020 11:55 AM] skyspook If it's their very first time launching lightburn, the user will need to exit and relaunch. Think they have a bug in the initial launch loader. But it works after that [12/13/2020 12:51 PM] talkers Thank you @Skyspook [12/13/2020 6:31 PM] michaelacks6 @michaelb how did today go? [12/13/2020 6:37 PM] michaelb5250 I'll make a post later, but all of the lasers should be working. We agreed one would be down again tomorrow 😂 [12/13/2020 6:44 PM] talkers Haha 😂 Thank You. That's awesome [12/13/2020 7:18 PM] talkers Now that both Donner and Blitzen are working and on ethernet, can we move the computer for Blitzen to a new table? Those two and the Fusion computers are too close together. Spacing them is needed to meet the safety recommendations for the pandemic. {Reactions} 😷 (2) [12/13/2020 7:59 PM] michaelacks6 Nice. Glad everything is up and running. Donner have a working z-axis now too? [12/13/2020 8:05 PM] skyspook Nope, need to find a new screw for it we think. I started looking but I haven't found it (didn't look hard). Probably just need to meaure it to find one [12/15/2020 4:04 PM] bigdumplinghead8709 Alright. Seems the lasers aren’t very fond of me 😩 accidentally pressed reset instead of esc on big thunder and now he’s not lasering. When I try to frame my file, it just says “Tracking Frame” and nothing else. Anyone available to help? [12/16/2020 8:01 PM] canibalcrab setting up light burn on a pc not connected to the thunder. what controller should i select? [12/16/2020 8:27 PM] skyspook None? Won't work unless it's hooked into that switch appropriately. It's vlaned off [12/16/2020 8:28 PM] skyspook Or if you're doing it just for you, ruida [12/16/2020 8:29 PM] canibalcrab yeah lightburn wouldnt let me continue without picking something [12/16/2020 8:30 PM] skyspook Ah, gotcha. Don't think it matters much. Thunders are the ruida controller, 600x900 I think for the standard size. [12/26/2020 2:08 AM] nullinterface I am contemplating something that might be ill-advised - designing and laser-cutting a 3-drawer dresser from 2 layers of 5mm plywood laminated together to ~10mm. This will be a utilitarian maker-y thing so I don't care that I'll have to expose the tabbed joints. [12/26/2020 2:09 AM] nullinterface general dimensions 30x30x20 inches [12/26/2020 8:18 AM] andrew5152 ```I am contemplating something that might be ill-advised``` this +/- alcohol is how all worthwhile projects start, isn't it? [12/26/2020 11:30 AM] nullinterface Probably, yeah [12/26/2020 12:12 PM] michaelb5250 Seems reasonable to me. I've got furniture kind of like that anyways (multicam, not multiple layers on the laser, but same design). [12/26/2020 3:05 PM] nullinterface 2x 5mm seems like it would be adequately stiff [12/26/2020 3:05 PM] nullinterface 20x30 looks doable on the nova 35s [12/26/2020 3:06 PM] nullinterface the treacherous nature of 5mm tri-ply will be the tricky part [12/26/2020 3:06 PM] nullinterface I'm going to need ***a lot*** of clamps [12/26/2020 3:21 PM] canibalcrab https://c.tenor.com/zOS4DlMYGVUAAAAM/futurama-robot-mafia.gif {Embed} https://c.tenor.com/zOS4DlMYGVUAAAAM/futurama-robot-mafia.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/F4SMcdaB93KDf9Ldeq9M4I_Q_RHM2kDW1WbN4X2tcgg/https/c.tenor.com/zOS4DlMYGVUAAAAM/futurama-robot-mafia.gif [12/26/2020 3:43 PM] nullinterface Also an *anti-cheating* enclosure for the cat feeder [12/26/2020 3:44 PM] nullinterface Fleabags love to empty that thing prematurely and/or push it over [12/29/2020 3:48 PM] nullinterface theoretical outside area of 4378 in²; a sheet of plywood is 4608 in² so doubling and triple-layering means I might be able to do the whole thing with 4-5 sheets [12/29/2020 3:51 PM] nullinterface that assumes footprint of 19x32x31 DxWxH. drawer slides I'm lousy with thanks to my father's ~~laziness when moving out of the region~~ *generosity* are 22" deep. [12/29/2020 3:53 PM] nullinterface looks like I can just shoehorn this into the footprint of the nova 35 [12/30/2020 7:25 PM] pondit If anyone knows Jonathan or Dana Glidden; they left a thumb drive wit sensitive documents in the fusion laser computer [12/31/2020 3:35 AM] hon1nbo I'd ping admin@dallasmakerspace.org [12/31/2020 3:36 AM] hon1nbo they'll usually hold onto anything that seems sensitive, private, etc separately from the lost and found [1/10/2021 8:25 PM] canibalcrab finished a late holiday gift [1/10/2021 8:25 PM] canibalcrab https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402662177846198273/797998153810575380/PXL_20210111_011831734.MP.jpg {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402662177846198273/797998153810575380/PXL_20210111_011831734.MP.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/402662177846198273/797998153810575380/PXL_20210111_011831734.MP.jpg?ex=67b92631&is=67b7d4b1&hm=6c47f983a66639658d76da38a4528dd9371a8ac4cf1776cf36051fd4a87e5e63& [1/10/2021 8:25 PM] canibalcrab https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402662177846198273/798014275574169600/PXL_20210111_022304335.MP.jpg {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402662177846198273/798014275574169600/PXL_20210111_022304335.MP.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/402662177846198273/798014275574169600/PXL_20210111_022304335.MP.jpg?ex=67b93535&is=67b7e3b5&hm=b9aff59cab7dcb8d31b91629f79989772f5dca37ef51bd86a30ac2435fe94e4c& [1/10/2021 8:27 PM] skyspook Very nice. Cut acrylic? [1/10/2021 8:27 PM] canibalcrab layered acrylic and then color swapped onto an acrylic base [1/10/2021 8:28 PM] canibalcrab https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401488471946166283/797978796329402398/20210110_180237.jpg {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401488471946166283/797978796329402398/20210110_180237.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401488471946166283/797978796329402398/20210110_180237.jpg?ex=67b9142a&is=67b7c2aa&hm=e5ef973f5736044fe47114f9cd118fda068acfd2aafdfd941e79477f5f09b774& [1/10/2021 8:28 PM] skyspook Looks great [1/10/2021 8:28 PM] canibalcrab havent peeled the second. gonna leave that for another day [1/10/2021 8:32 PM] pondit Does anyone know why I would be getting an error when using epilogue for cups but not flat cutting? [1/10/2021 8:32 PM] pondit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/798016404442841158/image0.jpg?ex=67b93731&is=67b7e5b1&hm=1fda607b27ff7da2cb756dbce0243886eb6ecbf3472773d845be22f64236149a& [1/10/2021 8:33 PM] skyspook Haven't seen that error before. It really doesn't like something about that job. [1/10/2021 8:34 PM] pondit It’s not the job, it won’t open the print interface at all [1/10/2021 8:35 PM] skyspook Does it open for another file? [1/10/2021 8:35 PM] pondit Checking [1/10/2021 8:37 PM] pondit If I’m trying to print from chrome yes but not illustrator or Adobe reader [1/10/2021 8:37 PM] skyspook Odd, wonder if Adobe is up to something. Could try a print or save to PDF from those, open in chrome and print from there. [1/10/2021 8:38 PM] pondit Chrome is changing my files size? [1/10/2021 8:39 PM] skyspook Oh, you mean into the dashboard? Yea, it may default to the maximum size. There's a way to go into the preferences during print and change the paper size to something else. I forget the name of the "smart" sizing page size. May be obvious [1/10/2021 8:40 PM] pondit Looking. Thanks for the help [1/10/2021 8:40 PM] skyspook No problem. The print driver thing can be a bit weird, but they've done it for years, so 🤷‍♂️ [1/10/2021 8:40 PM] canibalcrab "actual size" [1/10/2021 8:40 PM] pondit It’s called engraver [1/10/2021 8:40 PM] canibalcrab not "fit to page" [1/10/2021 8:40 PM] skyspook Ah yes, and make sure its PDF actual size as well 🙂 [1/10/2021 8:42 PM] pondit I’m seeing it now good call [1/10/2021 8:42 PM] skyspook Awesome. Glad it worked! [1/13/2021 5:25 PM] sister_of_battle Is anyone aware if big laser is offline? There's no signage stating that it was, but all I'm getting is Communications errors when trying to download to it [1/13/2021 5:26 PM] michaelb5250 With the correct IP address? (Not usb) [1/13/2021 5:26 PM] michaelb5250 I haven't heard of any issues for a while. [1/13/2021 5:28 PM] sister_of_battle Didn't check. Where is the IP address recorded? [1/13/2021 5:28 PM] michaelb5250 There should be a multicolored flyer floating around someone about 'connecting to the lasers' [1/13/2021 5:29 PM] michaelb5250 Big Thunder is 192.168.201.210 [1/13/2021 5:29 PM] michaelb5250 In theory, Lightburn will automatically set everything up for you if that's what you're using [1/13/2021 5:33 PM] sister_of_battle Using RDWorks [1/13/2021 5:36 PM] michaelb5250 I haven't done it in RDWorks, and it looks like I don't have a working copy to help you out. It's probably a fairly analogous process to what that document describes. If there isn't a paper copy in laser, it's on the committee driver under laser, setting up ethernet for the thunders was the name I believe. [1/13/2021 5:37 PM] michaelb5250 We're trying to push people to Lightburn as it's been better supported and more stable, which is why we don't have as much info for RDWorks [1/13/2021 5:43 PM] sister_of_battle Sounds good, thanks. Just haven't taken the time to learn how to use Lightworks [1/13/2021 5:46 PM] michaelb5250 No worries, if you get it connected over ethernet in RDWorks let me know. [1/13/2021 9:05 PM] gtometich Is Lightburn easy to pick up if I've only used RDWorks? [1/13/2021 9:07 PM] skyspook I think so. It was easier for me to pick up than RDWorks. Same kind of interface, but I feel like it's a bit more user friendly (and the developer is very responsive if we had issues) [1/13/2021 9:09 PM] gtometich I'll check it out on the jump server then, thanks! [1/13/2021 9:09 PM] gtometich does it work for the big laser? [1/13/2021 9:09 PM] themitch22 it's way better optimized to handle vectors as well [1/13/2021 9:36 PM] skyspook Yep, it works on all the thunders [1/14/2021 1:12 PM] gtometich Might be a dumb question, I’ve only used the big thunder. How much do I need to adjust settings to cut the same 3mm ply on the smaller lasers? [1/14/2021 1:12 PM] gtometich I see power listed the same on the wiki, but the Thunder website doesn’t show the smaller ones going up that high in power, just wanted to be sure [1/14/2021 1:13 PM] skyspook Yep, they're all the same power, though each individual laser has variations in power (mirrors dirty, focus, age of the laser). But it should be approximately the same. [1/14/2021 1:13 PM] skyspook Ours have an extension on the back that lets them take the higher power tubes [1/14/2021 1:14 PM] gtometich Well now I feel dumb sitting around waiting for the big thunder lol [1/14/2021 1:14 PM] skyspook Nah, just learned something new is all 🙂 [1/14/2021 1:15 PM] skyspook In addition the fusion is lower powered, but better at engraving (and much better at rotary). So cutting is better on the thunders generally [1/14/2021 1:19 PM] gtometich I haven’t done any engraving yet, I’m not the most exciting of laser users 🙂 [1/14/2021 1:19 PM] gtometich {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/799357050068926464/image0.jpg?ex=67b8d1c4&is=67b78044&hm=4630032bf6a4f3bdd061b32f2df0c0b8dcd4154437edc47f06c5d898f1d94cdb& [1/14/2021 1:24 PM] skyspook Looks great to me. Custom keyboards? [1/14/2021 1:29 PM] michaelb5250 I mean, that's a pretty cool keyboard soooo... Like Justin said, we have some custom version of the thunders that take a longer tube. Makes it easier to keep spare tubes around. [1/14/2021 1:29 PM] michaelb5250 Which reminds me, we should order a spare since we used ours in big thunder recently [1/14/2021 1:29 PM] skyspook Yes, yes you should 🙂 [1/14/2021 6:44 PM] gtometich Sorry, got in the zone when I started using the laser haha. But yep, a custom keyboard case, I’m building it around the Hiney h87c PCB. I want to get it CNC’d from aluminum, but I figure I’d best try a prototype if I can hah [1/14/2021 6:45 PM] gtometich CNC quotes is another fun task... I got one back that was 1/3 of the same price range of the others, I’m trying to figure out the catch [1/14/2021 6:46 PM] gtometich Oh, and a brass plate, but that’s another issue 🙂 [1/14/2021 6:55 PM] themitch22 @Greg Tometich look at sendcutsend.com laser cut steel would be just as precise and cost less than a CNC'd one. [1/14/2021 6:56 PM] themitch22 they now do carbon fiber [1/14/2021 6:56 PM] gtometich I’m checking them BigBlueSaw(assuming their server is working again), and I even found a guy that did Carbon Fiber [1/14/2021 6:56 PM] themitch22 yeah bigbluesaw is another popular one [1/14/2021 6:57 PM] gtometich Small quantities just require more diligence 😦 [1/14/2021 6:57 PM] gtometich I should’ve checked here sooner. Thanks for the help! [1/14/2021 6:58 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah if it's flat sheets laser cut would be the way to go. I just sent my first part through sendcutsend and was pretty happy with it. It should be a lot cheaper than cnc milled. [1/14/2021 6:58 PM] michaelb5250 Was your 1/3 cost quote outsourcing the work? [1/14/2021 6:59 PM] themitch22 possibly with a fine nozzle on the plasma cutter you could do it, but our cnc plasma with belts has wicked wobble at higher speeds [1/14/2021 6:59 PM] themitch22 You could use the HAAS but I remember nobody that isn't already checked out is getting access to it. [1/14/2021 7:00 PM] canibalcrab wat [1/14/2021 7:00 PM] gtometich I don’t mind paying a bit to ensure the plate is accurate. Everything depends on that hah [1/14/2021 7:01 PM] gtometich I’d love to do the HAAS, especially since I have a few years of experience as a manual machinist. But that’s for another day 🙂 [1/14/2021 7:01 PM] themitch22 mad respect if you manually milled a keyboard plate. [1/14/2021 7:01 PM] michaelb5250 I mean, it's all square 😝 [1/14/2021 7:02 PM] gtometich @michaelb So the 1/3 cost was for to top and bottom case halves milled out of aluminum. Matching up both sides isn’t difficult, but does require some competency. The bottom also has a 7° angle on the base. Plus chamfers and fillets. So the drastic price difference gave me pause [1/14/2021 7:02 PM] michaelb5250 IMHO though, any experience with a manual machine will put you ahead of most people trying to learn the Haas. People jump on it because it's cool but fail to understand the basics [1/14/2021 7:03 PM] gtometich I’m all about fixturing {Reactions} 👍 [1/14/2021 7:03 PM] gtometich The key to good machining [1/14/2021 7:03 PM] themitch22 you could do it on the Multicam if it wasn't in the wood shop [1/14/2021 7:04 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, in the PCB world that kind of price difference is what you see from a US based house vs a house that outsourced jobs to china, et al. [1/14/2021 7:05 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure about machined parts though [1/14/2021 7:06 PM] themitch22 we have a PCB mill, but you might get voluntold fixing/training on it [1/14/2021 7:06 PM] gtometich So 3D hubs was $840, and Rapid Direct was $290. Only difference was bead blasting and anodizing [1/14/2021 7:07 PM] gtometich {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/799444515551051786/image0.png?ex=67b92339&is=67b7d1b9&hm=173b57c3aa4ea0d4411bc48d32c9741c5e22097525a3945a0b0dba5e260bec2a& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/799444515780952064/image1.png?ex=67b92339&is=67b7d1b9&hm=e5f1e1086253bd8e3d8d36c8784b4b94520f3280aea325d85ecca822cb4d3ae2& [1/14/2021 7:07 PM] gtometich I know $840 isn’t cheap, but their bulk pricing made sense [1/14/2021 7:07 PM] gtometich How the other was so cheap I can’t figure out [1/14/2021 7:07 PM] michaelb5250 And the Haas class I took was very specific, ' going to teach you what buttons to hit, how to fixture your part, order of operations, etc are on you.' Which didn't work well with the 'my introduction to machining is the Hass' crowd. [1/14/2021 7:07 PM] themitch22 that's why geekhack keyboards are always groupbuys [1/14/2021 7:08 PM] gtometich Yeeep. I’m a glutton for punishment [1/14/2021 7:09 PM] gtometich I should just put it in the hiney discord and make someone else run a GB 😛 [1/14/2021 7:10 PM] themitch22 you on /r/mechanicalkeyboards? [1/14/2021 7:10 PM] gtometich I am, though I just lurk [1/14/2021 7:10 PM] themitch22 I've hosted several mech key meetups at DMS pre-covid, probably won't do it anymore [1/14/2021 7:10 PM] gtometich No way? I got into the hobby too late hah [1/14/2021 7:11 PM] themitch22 never too late, it's a dangerous hobby. I spent $300 on a 60% and realized this hobby is dangerous [1/14/2021 7:12 PM] gtometich I can see it. I eventually want to rope my buddy into machining a 60% out of titanium [1/14/2021 7:12 PM] gtometich I’m also going to try wood 60%s on the multicam, but that’s a bit further off [1/14/2021 7:15 PM] themitch22 that would be beautiful. I want to do wooden keycaps, but that's definitely a fixturing thing too [1/14/2021 7:16 PM] themitch22 probably not too bad with tabs/onion skinning [1/14/2021 7:16 PM] gtometich I didn’t even know that was doable, that would look great [1/14/2021 7:18 PM] themitch22 I'm trying to build my own CNC so I don't have to rely on the makerspace. looking forward to see how your keyboard stuff comes out [1/14/2021 7:18 PM] themitch22 china has impossibly cheap cnc prices if you're willing to wait [1/18/2021 5:40 PM] apparently_weird Anyone on that knows passcode to laser iPad? [1/18/2021 5:40 PM] michaelb5250 is it locked again? [1/18/2021 5:42 PM] apparently_weird Messaged you directly [2/19/2021 12:37 PM] canibalcrab https://news.mit.edu/2021/less-wasteful-laser-cutting-fabricaide-0217 {Embed} https://news.mit.edu/2021/less-wasteful-laser-cutting-fabricaide-0217 Less-wasteful laser-cutting Fabricaide is a new tool for laser-cutting that provides live feedback on how different parts of the design should be placed onto their sheets. The work, from MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, aims to make cutting more precise and lessen wasted material. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XgG0Wyb1qoKdMQfTTz8U6kJ0vYVFTHcpXpMa7KwoMeo/https/news.mit.edu/sites/default/files/images/202102/Fabricaide.png [3/8/2021 8:45 AM] sister_of_battle I have a co-worker who is all ready to join DMS and has a special interest in the lasers. He said he will sign up once he can get into one of the laser classes. I keep seeing them pop up on the calendar but fill up REALLY quickly. Do we know when the next one will be and when it might hit the calendar? [3/8/2021 8:46 AM] skyspook There are folks who will do 1:1s too. I can do one with him if he joins. {Reactions} ❤️ (3) [3/8/2021 9:06 AM] sister_of_battle Awesome, @Skyspook - Thanks! I'll tell him to get his butt in gear and get registered. [3/15/2021 8:15 AM] purpleporpoise5870 Can anyone help me figure out how to get the computer for the Epilog Fusion started? It simply says no connection. [3/15/2021 2:31 PM] hon1nbo I'd guess that's the monitor saying the computer isn't on. Power button on the small black computer box on the table [3/15/2021 2:34 PM] talkers It was the hidden power button at issue [3/29/2021 6:31 PM] hon1nbo Anyone know where all the hooks and magnets for the inert gas nozzles went? Came in today and checking a low gas alert half of them are just on the floor with their homes gone [3/29/2021 6:31 PM] hon1nbo Checked around the machine floors etc and did not find them [4/5/2021 5:46 PM] pondit Can anyone dm me the fusion code? It’s been a while and I forgot my notes; not sure how I can prove I’ve taken the class but I have [4/5/2021 5:47 PM] pondit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/828762754927296552/image0.jpg?ex=67b90276&is=67b7b0f6&hm=167371f9568643f6437ac363a6ff2d7b7e42ff0eafb5cc6ca5636d26b144ad3f& [4/5/2021 5:47 PM] pondit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/828762824150876160/image0.jpg?ex=67b90286&is=67b7b106&hm=7f85e56b3cb8dfd735a66881ee7f2117545353370629887a25c4b672eed1d46a& [4/5/2021 5:47 PM] canibalcrab very nice [4/5/2021 5:47 PM] pondit Oh hey Pearce [4/5/2021 5:47 PM] canibalcrab hola [4/5/2021 5:48 PM] canibalcrab I don't have the fusion code tho [4/5/2021 5:50 PM] pondit Nvm I was trying the wrong lockbox! I’m good now [4/5/2021 5:54 PM] michaelb5250 happens every so often. We should just write 'fusion' on the wall and draw an arrow to the correct box. [4/5/2021 6:32 PM] pondit Lol [5/11/2021 3:30 PM] canibalcrab https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/740672589935512/?ref=facebook_story_share {Embed} https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/740672589935512/?ref=facebook_story_share Log into Facebook Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know. [5/11/2021 3:30 PM] canibalcrab k40 I saw for sale [5/11/2021 9:02 PM] talkers Someone from the MakerSpace bought it [5/11/2021 9:02 PM] talkers Don't know who [5/11/2021 9:08 PM] canibalcrab nice [5/11/2021 9:59 PM] kenpurcell Depending on the upgrades it was all the money already. [5/11/2021 10:29 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/841879688192458762/be350b04eb5865d32fb8ca0ac6a94e5118fb48e8-14.jpg?ex=67b9448f&is=67b7f30f&hm=b048ca51dfc475ef875b031b234dd9ba72752fc3c77d6fe48c0f0f779cc4c1da& [5/11/2021 10:29 PM] talkers I had a friend looking at it [5/11/2021 10:30 PM] talkers They were 2nd in line [5/11/2021 10:32 PM] themitch22 a k40 would be cool to have but not going to setup a vent in my apartment [5/11/2021 10:32 PM] themitch22 k40's are awesome with a cohesion3d controller board with smoothieware [5/11/2021 10:33 PM] talkers Most of what I cut is 3mm, so it would be ok. I could prob work with the small bed size too. Light burn works on it, so that's a plus [5/11/2021 10:35 PM] themitch22 yeah that helps [5/26/2021 8:33 AM] sheephavewool Hi all! Is there still a way to get a discounted copy of LightBurn via Makerspace? It looks like the code we had previously expired. [5/26/2021 8:46 AM] andrew5152 I believe not presently [5/26/2021 10:22 AM] sheephavewool Thank you. [5/26/2021 12:28 PM] talkers Has no one asked Lightburn yet? Aaargh [5/26/2021 12:29 PM] talkers It takes just an email. I provided the data. The Lab got it right away [5/26/2021 12:30 PM] hon1nbo provided to who? [5/26/2021 12:31 PM] skyspook Yes, lighburn was asked. I believe there were issues locating the purchased keys they needed to validate and we'll be renewing soon anyway -- we can get the discount then. {Reactions} 👍 [5/26/2021 12:54 PM] michaelb5250 The info should be listed in the laser_committee_chair Google group. laser_committee_chair@dallasmakerspace.org was set up to hold the Lightburn keys since they kept getting passed around. Especially during renewals. They seem to get assigned to whoever was logged on when the renewal goes through. Art had them a few times and didn't even know it. {Reactions} 👍 [5/26/2021 12:56 PM] skyspook Thanks for the much more detailed explanation :). [5/26/2021 12:59 PM] michaelb5250 No problem. I think I've got the keys in an old email if you need. When it works, their cryptlex key management app is actually really useful. [6/8/2021 1:13 PM] limeytx Planning on hitting up the Lasers this weekend for the first time since pre-covid. Has much changed other than the purchase of the new laser?? I'm just planning on using one of the older models [6/8/2021 1:19 PM] talkers Lasers are now connected over Ethernet instead of usb [6/8/2021 1:19 PM] talkers They still have Rdworks avail, though Lightburn is also an option [6/8/2021 1:29 PM] skyspook Lightburn is preferred, and if you launch it twice it should auto-setup the laser for you, if you don't want to mess with connection settings. Fusion requires additional training, but is pretty simple to use (especially the rotary). [6/8/2021 2:00 PM] talkers The Fusion is very much like the Zing in operation, just slight differences in interface. It still acts like a printer. But the camera let's you position your art. [6/8/2021 2:00 PM] talkers And scale it [6/8/2021 2:00 PM] skyspook Yea, the camera is really cool [6/9/2021 9:14 AM] limeytx Fancy!! Yeah i'm just going in with AI files in hand. old school [6/11/2021 8:06 PM] limeytx @john a gorman @Skyspook I'm trying to install lightburn on my home pc, get ahead of the curve as it were and learn about it. Is there a machine file out there that I can import for the thunders and the fusion? [6/11/2021 8:08 PM] skyspook There's a .ini file in the laser drive that has all the settings - \\\\files\committees\laser\LightBurn [6/11/2021 8:09 PM] limeytx but outside of DMS? [6/11/2021 8:09 PM] skyspook Just a sec [6/11/2021 8:09 PM] limeytx Thanks chap [6/11/2021 8:10 PM] skyspook Set it up as a basic ruida controller - 600mm x 900mm. That should suffice for disconnected use [6/11/2021 8:10 PM] skyspook If you want to use big thunder, it's 1000 x 1600 [6/11/2021 8:10 PM] limeytx How are they cutting right now? Any issues? [6/11/2021 8:10 PM] limeytx the Nova's that is [6/11/2021 8:10 PM] skyspook None that I know of [6/11/2021 8:11 PM] limeytx cool cool [6/11/2021 8:11 PM] skyspook Just did maintenance last month and they were in good shape [6/11/2021 8:14 PM] limeytx damn, Lightburn is very similar to rdworks [6/15/2021 9:27 AM] purpleporpoise5870 Can someone please clarify whether or not the fusion is useable? It had a note on it indicating that the autofocus is not working and it says to not use it but the wording is not clear as to whether to not use the autofocus or the machine. Thanks [6/15/2021 9:28 AM] andrew5152 the autofocus [6/15/2021 9:28 AM] purpleporpoise5870 Thank you! [6/20/2021 1:22 AM] hon1nbo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/856056462987100160/PXL_20210620_045231968.jpg?ex=67b96d35&is=67b81bb5&hm=c84e231aeef06b2fee577360ad16b9111b629b871ff43e507994d6e40a7f7d16& [6/20/2021 1:22 AM] hon1nbo To laser users: This is *not* cool [6/20/2021 1:23 AM] hon1nbo Also to those cleaning the machine, please check you actually grab a trash bin. I appreciate any cleaning but this was the automotive spill media bucket: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/856056635676033034/PXL_20210620_045256576.jpg?ex=67b96d5e&is=67b81bde&hm=ad65ea44f135a27bf37e071b0276ef50427b61270924ed4dc55221c6f7dd9147& [6/20/2021 1:23 AM] hon1nbo The latter is a common mistake until we get a more clearly visible indication of what it is so eh [6/20/2021 1:23 AM] hon1nbo But all the cutout trash is just ridiculous [6/24/2021 3:10 PM] canibalcrab what's a reputable site to buy laser safety glasses from? 450nm blocking is needed [6/25/2021 9:20 AM] kenpurcell I bought mine at https://lasersafetyindustries.com/ they have a good search by wavelength tool and they are certified goggles. Expect $100-$180+ depending on the ND and wavelength. Also made in USA so you don't get color tinted BS like on AliExpress. {Embed} https://lasersafetyindustries.com/ Laser Safety Industries | Certified Glasses and Goggles | Windows |... Certified Laser Safety Glasses and Goggles | Laser Safety Windows | Laser Safety Curtain Systems and Barriers | Face Shields and Accessories {Reactions} ❤️ [7/2/2021 5:56 PM] quattroquattro Can you laser a vinyl record? [7/2/2021 6:06 PM] canibalcrab NO {Reactions} 👍 [7/2/2021 6:06 PM] skyspook Produces hydrogen chloride, which corrodes the internals [7/2/2021 6:06 PM] canibalcrab unless it's pre like 1940s [7/2/2021 6:06 PM] skyspook So on your machine? Sure. On ours? Nope :) [7/2/2021 6:06 PM] canibalcrab you can mill them [7/2/2021 6:08 PM] doug.emes Vinyl records are made by unifying chlorine and ethylene. The liquid resulting is called ethylene dichloride or EDC. The EDC is put through a cracking process which results in PVC. The PVC is a clear color so the addition of carbon creates the classic black color of records. www.ChemistryIsLife.com - The Chemistry of Vinyl Records www.chemistryislife.com/the-chemistry-of-vinyl-records [7/2/2021 6:16 PM] quattroquattro Glad I asked 😜 [7/2/2021 6:17 PM] skyspook Lol [7/2/2021 7:28 PM] themitch22 I'd be happy to cnc cut a vinyl record if anyone has one to donate [7/2/2021 7:29 PM] canibalcrab I have a stack of them you can play with [7/2/2021 7:30 PM] themitch22 If only the good songs are the inner tracks I wouldn't feel so bad about trimming the outside parts they'd still play. [7/2/2021 7:34 PM] canibalcrab it's all garbage music and they have been terribly stored [7/6/2021 3:05 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/862061663124455424/PXL_20210706_200451094.MP.jpg?ex=67b8dc7c&is=67b78afc&hm=5f7be21a10b59fbc6468b48f91cda1b557d02bd662611b3bcd78a450357e8cce& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/862061663830278164/PXL_20210706_200446003.MP.jpg?ex=67b8dc7c&is=67b78afc&hm=e4986bcc7c82fc93a0ae31021cacaebe19b6183c5a1d580eee0991b7c0d03972& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/862061665447837696/PXL_20210706_200443767.MP.jpg?ex=67b8dc7d&is=67b78afd&hm=a9ba3cecb1d67798df19b8815a430397c39aa806ced805e93600586320c19a48& [7/6/2021 3:05 PM] canibalcrab this is not okay [7/6/2021 3:06 PM] michaelb5250 https://c.tenor.com/fKIG2kiLVPgAAAAM/this-is-fine-its-fine.gif {Embed} https://c.tenor.com/fKIG2kiLVPgAAAAM/this-is-fine-its-fine.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/78Y7MV79LScZG8F655iqGHI7rEMHiU3O_36GpfRvyeM/https/c.tenor.com/fKIG2kiLVPgAAAAM/this-is-fine-its-fine.gif [7/6/2021 3:16 PM] doug.emes Guessing a jig saw never made it to the area permanently. 🤔 [7/6/2021 3:19 PM] andrew5152 GAH! what we need is a crotch-punching robot that provides IMMEDIATE reminders that this is shitty behaviour... {Reactions} 🤖 (2) 👊 (2) [7/6/2021 3:21 PM] yashsedai lol yes [7/6/2021 3:21 PM] yashsedai turn it lose! [7/6/2021 3:34 PM] canibalcrab you don't need a jigsaw at all [7/6/2021 4:57 PM] hon1nbo See photo above few back; some of this looks like repeat offenders since the design seems to be the same [7/6/2021 4:59 PM] canibalcrab 7 sheets of the acrylic [7/6/2021 4:59 PM] canibalcrab 4x2 [7/6/2021 6:28 PM] doug.emes i meant jigsaw because theres arguably some uisable scrap, but if there was a saw RIGHT there, then theres a slightly greater chance they get broken down [7/6/2021 7:01 PM] canibalcrab it was all easily broken free [7/6/2021 7:01 PM] canibalcrab by hand [7/6/2021 8:01 PM] nullinterface probably a ryobi one+ jigsaw not 50 feet away on the general-use tool wall [7/6/2021 8:01 PM] yashsedai can confirm [7/7/2021 10:13 PM] kenpurcell has need for 2" x 3" pieces of unknown plastic [7/19/2021 7:19 AM] nullinterface Have a project in mind which calls for a laser-friendly plastic material that can be etched to reveal a different color. ideally available in 4 distinct colors with a common-color outer 'ply'. Being a tad ignorant on these matters, not sure what to start looking for. [7/19/2021 7:29 AM] skyspook Engraving plastic. Johnson's is of good quality: https://www.jpplus.com/engraving/sheet/laser/plastic {Embed} https://www.jpplus.com/engraving/sheet/laser/plastic Plastic | Laser | Sheet Materials | Engraving Shop over 600 laser engravable plastic sheet products from leading brands, including 450+ from Rowmark and 150+ from IPI. [7/19/2021 7:37 AM] nullinterface oh crap. just realized that the embedded color will be visible on the edges, which will likely be a problem. [7/19/2021 7:59 AM] nullinterface Thanks for the reference, @Skyspook . I imagine there's some workaround, albeit not quite as pretty as I was envisioning. [7/19/2021 8:08 AM] skyspook I haven't played around too much with them, so I'm not sure how clean the edges will be. You will most likely be able to see a small strip of the interior color, like you said. Maybe able to paint, tape, plastidip, etc. the edge, but it is a lot more work 🙂 [7/19/2021 8:09 AM] nullinterface could probably just use one color and introduce some distinct symbol on the engraved side to differentiate [7/19/2021 8:17 AM] michaelb5250 Usually the color that you etch off is very thin and hard to see from the side, but it is visible if you look closely. [7/19/2021 8:21 AM] nullinterface the 3-layer material is what I'm interested in. outer layers need to be uniform while the inner layer revealed by the engraving will differ. [7/19/2021 8:21 AM] nullinterface 1/8" material would be ideal and it looks like the inner layer is the most prominent [7/19/2021 8:28 AM] nullinterface TL;DR is I'm making a set of tiles for a game and from the 'blank' side they should be indistinguishable. Color would be the most distinct way to subdivide, but I could also just do a symbol - classic playing card suits would be somewhat appropriate. [7/19/2021 8:58 AM] kenpurcell @ESmith I have some if you want to play around with it before buying some. I think black with white core and silver front, white core and black back layer. [7/19/2021 8:58 AM] nullinterface identical front/back ideal [7/19/2021 9:03 AM] nullinterface but likely good to experiment with [7/19/2021 9:10 AM] kenpurcell I was wrong black with white core/back and silver with black core/back. Welcome to have it for testing. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/866683400903327745/IMG_20210719_090832.jpg?ex=67b93210&is=67b7e090&hm=040c01cab09b48ce16b1c2105a7d7ad1e3d122a50b84eae5554440ef499f021b& [7/19/2021 9:10 AM] nullinterface very generous - thanks for the offer! [9/7/2021 6:01 PM] canibalcrab https://hackaday.com/2021/09/06/smart-laser-cutter-ad-on-detects-material-optically/ {Embed} Dave Rowntree https://hackaday.com/2021/09/06/smart-laser-cutter-ad-on-detects-material-optically/ Smart Laser Cutter Ad-on Detects Material Optically Come on now, admit it. You’ve done it. We’ve done it. You know — you were really sure that sheet of plastic stock you found lying around the hackerspace was acrylic right? You dia… https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9OUBSCHQUjc0YIM1-eLAy3mRGUOJ2kwBwgtwoV8zcE4/https/hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/M-wMjrhg.png [9/7/2021 6:21 PM] skyspook That's... pretty impressive really. Especially running a neural model on a pi-zero. [9/7/2021 7:55 PM] aceat64 you can run a NN on surprisingly low power hardware if the model isn't too complex [9/7/2021 7:55 PM] aceat64 voidstarlabs did a gesture recognition model on a teensy [9/7/2021 7:57 PM] aceat64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6raRftH9yxM {Embed} Zack Freedman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6raRftH9yxM AI Data Glove: Somatic I turned my favorite hand into a keyboard! Tools/software used: TensorFlow Lite, Fusion 360, Prusa i3 Mk3S Design files, training utility, and pretrained network: https://github.com/ZackFreedman/Somatic Assembly instructions: https://www.instructables.com/id/Somatic-Data-Glove-for-the-Real-World/ Project page: https://hackaday.io/project/16929... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/X6wuoXcqpvZRK8vLoA6yc7hgoDxBaCoBKEZ3ECsejK0/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/6raRftH9yxM/maxresdefault.jpg [9/7/2021 8:06 PM] michaelb5250 We were doing ocr (just digits 0-9) on a 96MHz Cortex-M4f at my last job. It could run the model in something like 300mS. [9/7/2021 8:06 PM] skyspook Poor cpu. Why you make it do that [9/7/2021 8:10 PM] michaelb5250 We had some R&D project and needed a basis for comparison. [9/29/2021 5:50 PM] canibalcrab anyone have tool cribbing files to laser out of foam? [10/7/2021 12:41 AM] canibalcrab I worry about the amount of fire I saw on the fusion while someone was trying to cut through 1/4 wood [10/7/2021 12:41 AM] canibalcrab he seemed to thing it was okay [10/7/2021 12:43 AM] canibalcrab and this is either belt rub or metal shavings coming from the gantry {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/895546732228796426/20211007_004226.jpg?ex=67b963e3&is=67b81263&hm=a390acac5854159e034bead13a6929682fe518a44c52e6997dca0b39005a8466& [10/7/2021 12:43 AM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/895546942648643594/20211007_004332.jpg?ex=67b96415&is=67b81295&hm=18c40acfe3cc40f627215e22e5844e246ca4a6d186cbd73dc1fe2bccdc3c2f74& [10/7/2021 10:02 AM] michaelb5250 It's been a few years at this point, I wonder what it would cost to get engraving concepts to come out and give it a checkup. [10/7/2021 10:02 AM] skyspook And here I am worrying when something even smells funny -- they may see our lasers and run away. [10/7/2021 10:04 AM] yashsedai I thought the fusion was more for engraving than cutting? [10/7/2021 10:05 AM] skyspook Preferred, yes [10/7/2021 10:05 AM] skyspook But it can cut [10/7/2021 10:06 AM] skyspook Thunders have more power and cut a bit better in my opinion, fusion has better control. [10/7/2021 10:54 AM] michaelb5250 Yeah, really it excels at engraving, but if you're going to engrave something like a coaster there's no point in having to bring it to a thunder and line it up again to get it cut, might as well just cut it out on the fusion. [10/7/2021 10:55 AM] skyspook I'd be tempted to cut out on the thunders first, then either use the camera or the better alignment on the fusion to line up and engrave. But that's me 🙂 [10/7/2021 11:56 AM] canibalcrab yeah it can cut, but this guy was making a lot of coasters. he should have made a jig to etch on the fusion and cut on the thunder [10/7/2021 11:57 AM] canibalcrab tons of passes making a lot of flame just seems like a bad way to treat the most expensive of our lasers [10/7/2021 11:58 AM] michaelb5250 At the very least he should've stopped when he saw flames.... Or had to do more than 1 pass. [11/5/2021 1:38 PM] nullinterface Is there something obvious to making lightburn with the nova 35s other than adding the device by IP? [11/5/2021 1:45 PM] michaelb5250 You've also got to pick the right controller, but it should be able to talk with just that. There's a colorful guide that lives by the DMS lasers and on the laser committee drive [11/5/2021 1:49 PM] nullinterface Followed it. No love. Out of time anyway. [11/5/2021 2:01 PM] skyspook If you open lightburn like 3 times it should autofill the device. Also need to power cycle the computer a lot since people stay logged in with lightburn open, which screws everything up [11/5/2021 2:22 PM] nullinterface Will have to give it another go next weekend [11/5/2021 2:37 PM] nullinterface Sounds like a `shutdown -r -f -t 0` would do wonders [11/5/2021 2:41 PM] nullinterface didn't see an apparent way to log off - I did so command line since I know those switches all too well [11/5/2021 5:12 PM] skyspook Happy to help reconfigure the laser computers to force logoffs :) [11/5/2021 6:03 PM] doug.emes assigned Jonathon my proxy for this weekend [11/13/2021 3:02 PM] ericmsilver I missed classes today as it was full [11/13/2021 3:03 PM] ericmsilver Is there another class coming up? Wife wants doll house to assemble [11/19/2021 11:23 AM] thuban7200 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/911305799291252836/20211118_225341.jpg?ex=67b95f69&is=67b80de9&hm=3eac034d9d01bf9e30aa607a79180644845741bbe90924f09cd7b21e0a831149& {Reactions} dms (3) ❤️ (3) [11/19/2021 11:24 AM] thuban7200 Laser cut out of a gingerbread man for the tree in the lobby [11/19/2021 11:25 AM] skyspook Wonderful! [11/19/2021 11:25 AM] skyspook Thank you! [11/19/2021 11:26 AM] rayearth42 Thank you so much!!! ❤️ [11/29/2021 7:43 PM] canibalcrab anyone have a ruler svg file i could use to laser measurements into a portable work table? [11/29/2021 9:32 PM] kenpurcell https://robbbb.github.io/VectorRuler/ {Embed} https://robbbb.github.io/VectorRuler/ Vector Ruler SVG Generator A web-based applet for the generation of downloadable vector rulers, suitable for laser etching [11/29/2021 9:39 PM] canibalcrab well shit [11/29/2021 9:39 PM] canibalcrab i made one in inkscape [11/29/2021 9:39 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/915084684516556850/PXL_20211130_023001892.png?ex=67b94706&is=67b7f586&hm=47bc2e97b153f166a3461c72045f505e256533798ae8f3a6aac6b277b91aeae0& [11/30/2021 8:34 AM] kenpurcell Great idea though, I might make one for baking with circles for pie crusts, 8", 9" etc. [11/30/2021 8:54 AM] skyspook A grid version would be useful, I think [11/30/2021 3:55 PM] kenpurcell Basically like a cutting mat except for a worktable version. Could run any new worktables through the thunder. [11/30/2021 3:57 PM] skyspook Think they're big enough we might need to drop the front panel, but could get an exception to do it [11/30/2021 4:00 PM] canibalcrab for a portable table top for glass I didn't want the lines going all the way. thought about it tho [11/30/2021 4:01 PM] canibalcrab dropping the front panel is ezpz and the blowers are strong enough it wont matter [11/30/2021 4:01 PM] canibalcrab just don't stick your face down there [11/30/2021 4:06 PM] skyspook Oh yes, I just like making sure they know I'm breaking the normal rules. That way if I ever do something stupid and I forgot to ask, I may get some leeway 🙂 [11/30/2021 5:51 PM] doug.emes Cardboard works amazing for closing up drop panels on the lasers. [1/18/2022 11:37 AM] kenpurcell not sure why this shows up in Dallas listings by hey up to you https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tls/d/albuquerque-epilog-helix-75-watt-laser/7433333675.html {Embed} https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tls/d/albuquerque-epilog-helix-75-watt-laser/7433333675.html Epilog Helix 75 watt laser engraver-cutter - tools - by owner - sale The Epilog Helix has a 18”x 24” bed size. The 75 watt is the highest wattage of this model. It has a vacuum table and a honeycomb table for vector cutting. The sale includes a rotary unit along with... [1/18/2022 12:41 PM] themitch22 I saw Epilog at CES, it probably sucks competing with China and glowforge [1/18/2022 12:41 PM] themitch22 They must be doing well enough to go to CES [1/22/2022 4:29 PM] nullinterface Lewisville library has added a Fusion Pro to their makerspace [1/22/2022 4:34 PM] nullinterface Talked to the Lewisville library folks at length about their makerspace some time back and they felt the service experience from Epilog was well worth the upfront premium [1/23/2022 10:26 AM] kenpurcell Yeah, their staff is not interested in trying to maintain fix stuff so the longer stays working the better! [4/11/2022 5:50 PM] canibalcrab https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/quick-hacks-countersinking-screw-heads-with-3d-laser-engraving/ {Embed} Dave Rowntree https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/quick-hacks-countersinking-screw-heads-with-3d-laser-engraving/ Quick Hacks: Countersinking Screw Heads With 3D Laser Engraving Here’s a fun quick hack from [Timo Birnschein] about using the 3D laser engraving (or ‘stamp’ engraving) mode of certain laser cutter toolchains to create a handy countersink shap… https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ze6Px-fRfUUtvvYHRgr2F99B0OmvNpT6yYR1dQc-MCc/https/hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/7035691649606792226-featured.jpg {Reactions} 👍 (2) [4/11/2022 5:50 PM] canibalcrab I'm going to have to try this for my lamp bases [4/11/2022 5:51 PM] canibalcrab countersinking is a pain and is the only step I have to do manually [4/11/2022 7:03 PM] themitch22 I wonder if there's an actual time savings, maybe in large batches. [4/11/2022 7:23 PM] michaelb5250 For me it just resulted in a lot of gunk to clean up. It's not horrible otherwise, maybe with the right material it'd have been better [4/12/2022 12:41 PM] kenpurcell if you got a couple mounting holes around the perimeter it looks like a great idea. Trying to make your own pegboard, not so much. [5/3/2022 9:07 AM] quattroquattro I need some small sheets of laserable leather for work. Is there anywhere in town that is good for that sort of stuff. [5/3/2022 9:33 AM] themitch22 Tandy leather still have a store front? [5/3/2022 9:50 AM] canibalcrab lots of Tandy's in town. big one is near Arlington off 20 [5/3/2022 9:50 AM] canibalcrab Michaels and hobby lobby will also have some leathers as well [5/3/2022 11:57 AM] quattroquattro Thanks, so to laser it the leather just needs to not be chrome tanned right? [5/3/2022 11:59 AM] andrew5152 aw geezus, man! Y U want to start that debate up again? [5/3/2022 11:59 AM] andrew5152 😄 [5/3/2022 12:16 PM] themitch22 If you don't want to risk it, I can cut it on my laser. [5/3/2022 12:16 PM] themitch22 Hope my neighbors like the smell of burning skin :-) [5/3/2022 12:16 PM] canibalcrab pretty much yes. test to see what kind of smoke it makes, then let it vent a lot [5/3/2022 12:16 PM] canibalcrab vegtan is what you are looking for [5/3/2022 12:17 PM] canibalcrab I also have a laser you can use if you don't want to try it on the space's {Reactions} 👍 [5/3/2022 12:17 PM] canibalcrab and some leather at home too [5/3/2022 2:47 PM] kenpurcell he said burning skin! Or it gets the hose again. [5/3/2022 2:59 PM] themitch22 I did envy Buffalo Bills basement floor space [5/11/2022 6:52 PM] emewy76 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063130527203328/974096588353962004/IMG_9219.jpg?ex=67b911a4&is=67b7c024&hm=f70a6c6c9508678eccba471b4052204d2453cfc81135267b5fe39dfd2c1c5f73& {Reactions} 👍 [5/11/2022 6:52 PM] emewy76 This is my first completed project through makerspace! [6/7/2022 11:37 AM] jupiterscomet Hey I see the big thunder chiller is broken. I have a new 6L chiller at home. It's still in the box. Just offering in case we haven't ordered it yet. [6/18/2022 11:40 AM] jupiterscomet @laser chair [6/22/2022 2:42 AM] glaciel Hey, sorry, meant to get back to this earlier. [6/22/2022 2:42 AM] glaciel So we have a spare chiller that we're going to be swapping in as soon as we have the time, so you don't *need* to donate your chiller to us if you don't want to. [6/22/2022 2:43 AM] glaciel That said, if you want to, you are more than welcome to actually donate it if you'd like 🙂 But you don't need to. we have a spare. It's a matter of man hours, rather than of hardware. [6/22/2022 6:55 AM] jupiterscomet Ok! Thanks for getting back with me @Glaciel [8/5/2022 3:16 PM] michaelb5250 Has anyone seen the backsweep tube for fusion? Looks like it fell off the laser head but I can't it anywhere. I found the manual focus screw and parts of a latch that had fallen... [8/5/2022 3:28 PM] michaelb5250 Also I suspect the air assist hole wasn't lined up correctly when the lens tube was installed, the lens is quite dirty. [8/22/2022 12:41 PM] michaelacks6 @Glaciel are any of the lasers operational ? I know that they have been varying degrees of issues [8/22/2022 1:15 PM] glaciel I'm honestly unsure. I've been out of town for the last 3-4 days. I'll go take a look tonight and see what the status is. The fusion should be up, as should donner, last I heard. Big Thunder probably needs a new bed, and blitzen is defying all my undersatanding of optics by not doing remotely what I think it should with its shadowing problem. [8/22/2022 2:41 PM] michaelacks6 Appreciate it. I need to get schooled on the fusion. [9/7/2022 8:21 PM] doug.emes https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5455727 {Embed} https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5455727 Honeycomb Adjustable Alignment Square V 2.0 by TriniD Adjustable square jig for honeycomb beds. Both sides adjusts to accommodate most honeycomb beds. Only parts that should need supports are the pins. If you wish to purchase this part in lieu of 3D printing it yourself please visit our etsy page and we will be happy to help you. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1269840254/adjustable-square-for-honey... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/rIB3MPjxuOrkFpGJrpie6PcLu-UU1w0Zx_lnu5hkqgM/https/cdn.thingiverse.com/assets/77/43/0a/2b/d0/featured_preview_84a12482-92bf-4817-96bc-2c3331928b15.JPG {Reactions} 👍 [12/19/2022 7:52 PM] hardsuit Does laser only have the existing "standard" lens assembly, or do we have any of the fine detail and/or long throw lenses? [12/19/2022 7:56 PM] hardsuit Looking at at Thunder's website they're listed as the "Hi-res Head" and "4 inch Head" [1/6/2023 6:39 PM] stephenie. I thought I saw the long throw in one of the tool boxes [1/19/2023 9:02 PM] hardsuit I checked the toolboxes, and there is a spare long throw lens, but not sure if we have a full/proper housing assembly to put it in [1/30/2025 12:01 PM] crimsonwolf1071 Hey, could somebody dm the access code for the fusion pro please? I just did the class last night but forgot to get the code to access the key😅 ============================================================== Exported 6,998 message(s) ==============================================================