============================================================== Guild: DallasMakerspace Channel: Committees / infrastructure ============================================================== [4/7/2017 10:28 PM] aceat64 Iโ€™m Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite chat on the citadel [4/8/2017 11:52 AM] robert22 FYI 3 iPads arrived today I will get them into DMS tonight to get them installed {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [4/10/2017 1:58 PM] aceat64 anyone else getting annoyed by the who's online thing? [4/10/2017 1:59 PM] aceat64 it lags out my browser for a few frames just moving my mouse past it [4/10/2017 2:00 PM] canibalcrab I already made my argument against it. Brooks seems to think it works fine on desktop so im wrong thinking it's garbage on mobile [4/10/2017 3:50 PM] clk9431 "member list" toggles on and off on the desktop by clicking the cozy couple next to the search. Just looked - the couple of heads to the right of the magnifying glass top right on my iPad. (That's what you're talking about, right?) [4/10/2017 3:51 PM] aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/301096944334536704/Screenshot_from_2017-04-10_15-51-36.png?ex=67b8e761&is=67b795e1&hm=43bb7fa61908b353a6bdcab8744268a4b74eebdcbccf8427f75e6d399e649fd1& [4/10/2017 3:51 PM] aceat64 this thingy [4/10/2017 3:52 PM] aceat64 it expands when you hover over it too, and if enough people are online it goes to a second line [4/10/2017 3:53 PM] clk9431 Ah. Yeah. Wouldn't let me go for whatever reason. I noticed I was showing up even when I wasn't logged in. [4/10/2017 4:30 PM] aceat64 I think it just shows whoever was seen in the last ___ minutes [4/10/2017 4:33 PM] clk9431 Ah. That would explain it. [4/10/2017 6:16 PM] .ladyl Five minutes, Andrew... ๐Ÿ˜‰ I'm indifferent about it myself. It works perfectly fine using Chrome, Firefox, and the Android Internet browser on my Samsung Galaxy S7. No odd behavior or performance issues. It also works fine on my really sucky 2 GB RAM laptop... But again, I'm pretty much indifferent about that particular plugin myself. Since some members seem to like it while others don't, and since it's an optional "enhancement" type of plugin, perhaps we should post a poll to allow the members who use TALK the opportunity to vote on whether they feel it enhances their experience or makes it better...??? A very simple, "keep it" or "don't keep it" poll for a week, perhaps? [4/10/2017 8:01 PM] aceat64 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/whos-online-display-do-you-like-it-hate-it-or-are-you-indifferent/19801 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/whos-online-display-do-you-like-it-hate-it-or-are-you-indifferent/19801 Who's online display, do you like it, hate it or are you indiffe... I'm talking about this thingy up top. [image] I've heard some arguments for it, some arguments against it, and a whole lot of "oh, I never noticed that". It's an optional plugin to Discourse, but before we go and disable it, I'd like to get a feel for what people think of the feature. I like it I don't like it I'm indifferent 0voters Show results https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/S9HGUSI6dgfPxgpm76acLrp96wtO8OUolk9yrVURTz0/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/2X/d/d54f6559756e9efbf58bd5516ab77c8093f78bd8_1_690x75.png [4/10/2017 9:03 PM] aceat64 looks like the majority are in "don't like it" and "indifferent" [4/10/2017 9:10 PM] .ladyl ๐Ÿ‘ kewl Thanks for posting it... :) Did you set an expiration date on the thread or anything? Or just going to let it roll for the week or ? It's kewl to have a poll that is being used and not turning into any type of drama... ๐Ÿ˜„ [4/10/2017 9:12 PM] .ladyl I had a typo... I can't see if the edit history can be pulled up or not... ๐Ÿค” [4/10/2017 9:17 PM] aceat64 I haven't set an expiration [4/10/2017 9:26 PM] .ladyl Okie dokie... I'm posting a reply right now... I'll add a blurb about closing it in a week. Thx again :) [4/11/2017 10:39 AM] .ladyl @aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/301380777894084618/Screenshot_20170411-103819.png?ex=67b946f8&is=67b7f578&hm=8576ed3acd22b20ac41b60bf24817f6d326a2e3a86298fdce30a0298a96c8b96& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [4/11/2017 10:40 AM] aceat64 lol [4/11/2017 10:41 AM] .ladyl The ratios change every couple of hours of course, but I just had to share this with you hehe [4/11/2017 11:07 AM] merissa4308 That's pretty funny. The only poll to not stir up drama and it's completely split. [4/11/2017 11:17 AM] robert22 FYI there was an API upgrade on smart waiver we may need to make some changes in 2018 [4/11/2017 1:28 PM] robert22 I was looking at WHMCS and saw we are on an old version of PHP 5.6 [4/11/2017 1:29 PM] robert22 Any reason not to update? [4/11/2017 1:30 PM] robert22 Also have 7.35 curl installed which has vulnerabilities [4/11/2017 1:35 PM] aceat64 WHMCS didn't support newer versions of PHP [4/11/2017 1:35 PM] aceat64 it might now [4/11/2017 1:35 PM] aceat64 curl is kept up-to-date by the package management system [4/11/2017 1:35 PM] aceat64 it has backported patches [4/11/2017 5:36 PM] canibalcrab whens the next infra meeting? [4/12/2017 3:46 PM] robert22 Cool if you have time if you could take a look whmcs was quite upset about it when I logged in one day [4/12/2017 3:47 PM] robert22 Also Andrew do you know if you have any storage arrays being decommed? [4/12/2017 3:47 PM] robert22 Or something with some CPU for another Blue iris server [4/12/2017 4:07 PM] aceat64 I'll check with IT [4/12/2017 5:26 PM] stansimmons2031 Andrew, Mike Kelp and I have some questions about WHMCS, when is the next time that you plan on being up at DMS and will have an hour or so available? [4/12/2017 6:39 PM] aceat64 I'm heading up in a bit for the moderator meeting, may have some time before it [4/12/2017 6:40 PM] aceat64 Or after if it doesn't explode into a whole thing [4/12/2017 6:40 PM] aceat64 Or during, if it does [4/13/2017 9:46 AM] alerho What's with the group ".Needs Repair" in AD? [4/13/2017 12:59 PM] stansimmons2031 That is some that I'm doing research on... the are ones that got the GUID tacked on the the end of their names and duplicated. It is just a placeholder group. [4/13/2017 1:03 PM] stansimmons2031 I had already deleted the dups that had the GUID tacked on, because they were causing login issues. I still don't know why they sometimes get created. [4/13/2017 1:42 PM] alerho Looks like those didn't get added to members group. So maybe in the process of adding it to the member group it fucks up and creates the guid ones. [4/13/2017 1:43 PM] alerho Just a guess at this point. [4/13/2017 3:06 PM] stansimmons2031 Fixed the "Members" group for those. [4/13/2017 3:17 PM] themitch22 Hoping on this channel since Lisa suggested. we were discussing new PC's for the space [4/13/2017 3:19 PM] canibalcrab @clk had computer spec questions. do we still have a standard base build for PCs or is it too old? [4/13/2017 3:23 PM] themitch22 I think the Intel NUC's are neat http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc6i7kyk-features-configurations.html {Embed} http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc6i7kyk-features-configurations.html Intelยฎ NUC Kit NUC6i7KYK Features and Configurations The Intelยฎ NUC Kit NUC6i7KYK features an Intelยฎ Coreโ„ข i7 processor, Irisโ„ข Pro graphics, a redesigned chassis, and full-sized performance for gaming. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Kgoy3bsswvBn9wr8_vKWA5gus03Ng04KBFo0YY0400k/http/www.intel.com/etc/designs/intel/us/en/images/printlogo.png [4/13/2017 3:23 PM] themitch22 I mean they'd be about as good if not better than our current systems, except for digital media [4/13/2017 3:23 PM] themitch22 also they give you the STEP files for the cover so you can 3D print your own I thought that's pretty neat [4/13/2017 3:24 PM] canibalcrab thats a cool feature that costs them nothing [4/13/2017 3:25 PM] themitch22 excatly, it's gamer marketed but I think anything decent will be because graphics power [4/13/2017 3:25 PM] themitch22 actual workstations are hella expensive because they opt to quadro gpu's [4/13/2017 3:26 PM] canibalcrab its got the same graphics card problems though [4/13/2017 3:28 PM] themitch22 at least the skull canyon version has a more powerful intel graphics [4/13/2017 3:28 PM] .ladyl @lukeiamyourfather may have some opinions [4/13/2017 3:28 PM] stansimmons2031 I've had problems with NUC's at one of my customers who has dust problems similar to ours... Not gonna recommend them for DMS even though they are neat little computers [4/13/2017 3:29 PM] themitch22 3d fab at least kisslicer needs RAM. Meshmixer is about the same it's CPU calculations [4/13/2017 3:30 PM] themitch22 the jump server doesn't seem to have any GPU support so. [4/13/2017 3:30 PM] themitch22 yeah same issue with dust I understand. the plasmacam pc has shop towels inserted into the fan ducsts not sure how that's working but it's a cheap solution [4/13/2017 3:31 PM] themitch22 there was talk of dedicated design/CAD PC's in the common room but we couldn't police them [4/13/2017 3:38 PM] redbeardedpirate Nucs are not a good fit for our needs IMHO [4/13/2017 3:38 PM] redbeardedpirate I can put together a list of what I think would be a good build for DMS that's customizable per committee as needed [4/13/2017 3:40 PM] canibalcrab luke the 8 core cpu made a huge difference in slicing [4/13/2017 10:35 PM] clk9431 Huh? What? I've clearly not kept up. All I know is that RAM is my friend for both video and photo editing. I'd think at least 8 as a minimum standard and then 16 and 32 sprinkled around like it is now. [4/13/2017 10:37 PM] clk9431 Face it, DMS computers are mostly used for checking online social media accounts. [4/13/2017 11:03 PM] aceat64 the computers we've built before always had at least 16GB of RAM I think [4/13/2017 11:03 PM] aceat64 at least they did when I was building them [4/13/2017 11:14 PM] mlass Only if they where 64 bit [4/13/2017 11:34 PM] aceat64 they were [4/13/2017 11:34 PM] aceat64 I don't think I've ever built a 32bit PC for the space [4/14/2017 1:03 AM] canibalcrab plasma cam pc is win 10 32bit somehow [4/14/2017 2:12 AM] stansimmons2031 If I remember right, the Plasma Cam PC is an old dual core that doesn't support 64bit [4/14/2017 7:08 AM] clk9431 There are a couple of computers in CA that only have 8 (or 9!) mb of RAM. [4/14/2017 7:09 AM] clk9431 So 64bit is a goal for a couple of machines. I notice from an earlier thread on talk that I missed a machine in Aero, too. [4/14/2017 7:12 AM] clk9431 Do we have room room for second monitors anywhere? I know that in theory DM could use them for editing. [4/14/2017 7:36 AM] clk9431 @StanSimmons that little computer I set up in the back of the common room is 64 bit, isn't it? Could it be swapped out for the Plasma Cam in #metal_shop? Or isn't there one more setup still stashed? [4/14/2017 7:36 AM] clk9431 At the rate it's going, we may or may not see the extra i5s. [4/14/2017 7:38 AM] clk9431 Oh, and I missed the plasma cam machine in my walkabout the other day. Will work on a solid list of machines later this weekend... Will all of them let me sign in to check hardware specifics or are some restricted for sign in due to training requirements? [4/14/2017 7:53 AM] stansimmons2031 Standard logins will let you choose properties on "My Computer" or "This PC" to see what version and how much RAM. [4/14/2017 7:55 AM] stansimmons2031 The Plasma Cam hardware requires an LPT port, most modern machines do not have one. [4/14/2017 12:13 PM] themitch22 The commodore 128 in the vintage computer committee has 128kb of ram [4/14/2017 12:14 PM] themitch22 Btw Dwight got an SD card adapter that emulates a floppy drive for it so you can store BASIC programs [4/14/2017 10:21 PM] clk9431 Haven't heard from the guy with the computer stash yet about bringing some in on Sunday. I'd say it's looking slim... [4/15/2017 7:16 AM] clk9431 Woke up this morning to several subjects walking about to different categories on Talk. It's like the logisitcs chair gained moderator privileges overnight. [4/15/2017 11:02 AM] .ladyl A couple of new categories have been added, as a result some threads were moved to more appropriate categories. It's like the person who has had the primary responsibility to manage the forum continued to use their privileges as has been the case since before you ever joined. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™€ [4/15/2017 11:36 PM] aceat64 There can't possibly be any modern systems with 8 _mb_ of ram :) [4/15/2017 11:39 PM] canibalcrab Maybe if they got it from rent a center [4/15/2017 11:45 PM] .ladyl I suddenly feel much better about the blazing fast 2 GB RAM on my laptop now ๐Ÿ˜Ž [4/15/2017 11:46 PM] aceat64 My phone has more RAM than your laptop :p [4/15/2017 11:46 PM] .ladyl LOL [4/15/2017 11:48 PM] .ladyl Why do you think I use my phone more often than my laptop - even when I'm logged into and sitting in front of my laptop! ๐Ÿ˜œ [4/15/2017 11:48 PM] aceat64 Btw, I've got lte but just barely out on this mountain [4/15/2017 11:48 PM] aceat64 Might drop off suddenly [4/15/2017 11:48 PM] .ladyl w00t [4/15/2017 11:48 PM] .ladyl ENJOY!!!!!!! /jealous [4/15/2017 11:51 PM] .ladyl I just checked the RAM on my phone... 4 GB. No wonder it's better and faster than my laptop! LOLLOLLOL ๐Ÿ˜‚ [4/18/2017 1:33 PM] stansimmons2031 I've got an RFQ out to TWC/Spectrum for backup and/or replacement internet service. We'll see what they have to offer. I've asked for both low-end failover service and high-end replacement service quotes. My understanding is that TWC has fiber to our MDF at the back of the building already. Our pfsense router can easily handle failover to another carrier. Vpn on failover is problematic but we could easily do failover for browsing, etc. to keep the rioting down when there are internet outages. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [4/18/2017 2:44 PM] clk9431 How are we supposed to get our exercise if we aren't prompted to riot now and then? [4/19/2017 10:19 AM] clone1018 I'm going to be fixing some of the lights tonight around the DMS, starting with the laser area, does anyone have any specific requests? [4/19/2017 12:16 PM] andrew5152 @LukeStrickland no specific requests, but I'm curious if you (youse) work on a live fixture, or shut down the circuit (flip breaker, for example)? [4/19/2017 12:40 PM] .ladyl Oh Gawd PLEASE shut down the circuit! On that note, please also check with members using any power before flipping breakers... (not saying you would not have... just a simple reminder ๐Ÿ˜‡) [4/19/2017 12:44 PM] clone1018 Haha yeah I don't work on live electricity. Today I think I'm mainly going to get the supplies I need out of the closet, look at the new mounting and look at our old ballasts to see what needs to be done [4/19/2017 12:45 PM] clone1018 I'm a big proponent of excessive communication [4/19/2017 12:55 PM] andrew5152 10-4. that's how I'd do it, but I wasn't sure about others... [4/19/2017 12:58 PM] .ladyl ๐Ÿ–’๐Ÿ–’ [4/19/2017 1:01 PM] canibalcrab Yeah ladders + high voltage is a bad idea [4/19/2017 1:07 PM] andrew5152 most commercial electricians work on live circuits for ballast changes & such. Me? No thanks. I was just wanting to test the waters 'round here. I'm more willing to help if the expectation is that the circuit will be dead for the changeover... [4/19/2017 1:21 PM] .ladyl So far every time I've seen one worked on at the Space, the circuit has been off. [4/19/2017 1:21 PM] clone1018 Off at breaker or light switch lol [4/19/2017 1:21 PM] clone1018 hopefully our breakers are labeled [4/19/2017 1:22 PM] clone1018 also yeah when electricians always just go at it it scares me [4/19/2017 1:26 PM] .ladyl I've seen it done both ways... When just turning off the light switch, someone is usually standing near it to prevent people from turning it on. The labelling is better than it used to be......... I'd suggest having someone watching the lights in question while someone else flips the breaker to be sure the correct one is flipped. ;) [4/19/2017 1:39 PM] andrew5152 I only do off @ breaker. off @ switch leaves live wires in the ceiling (or so I believe) ๐Ÿ™‚ [4/19/2017 2:04 PM] mr.clark6147 @A. Spencer(jast) It depends on how it's wired. If the light is wired on a switch leg, there will still be a live neutral up at the fixture. If it's wired in series with the switch, the power will be completely dead at the fixture. [4/19/2017 2:09 PM] andrew5152 yep. so, much like all guns are loaded, and all snakes are poisonous, I only work on broken circuits. ๐Ÿ™‚ [4/19/2017 11:11 PM] kriskat309685 Thank you for your help with this. The LED lights make a huge difference. [4/20/2017 8:35 AM] clone1018 Yeah, I'm wondering if there are any areas that can immediately benefit from the different light [4/20/2017 9:10 AM] clone1018 it just dawned on me that lights are logistics btw [4/20/2017 9:40 AM] clk9431 Light switched on, huh? (Sorry. Well, not really. But truly couldn't resist...) [4/20/2017 9:40 AM] clk9431 So is the dumpster logistics or infrastructure? [4/20/2017 9:46 AM] stansimmons2031 Logistics [4/20/2017 10:31 AM] clk9431 I'd say it's time for a bigger dumpster or more pick ups. Part of growing pains. [4/20/2017 10:32 AM] clk9431 Any idea if the sawdust could be recycled? [4/20/2017 1:19 PM] aceat64 anyone know how to access the member drive from the SSH jump server? [4/20/2017 1:22 PM] .ladyl I think Walter put the instructions on the wiki [4/20/2017 1:23 PM] aceat64 ahh cool it's under /mnt/files [4/20/2017 4:52 PM] .ladyl ๐Ÿ‘ [4/20/2017 5:25 PM] denzuko do we have some sort of internal dns for service discovery? [4/20/2017 5:27 PM] denzuko looking to do something like `_kiosk._http.dms.local SRV ... purpleclassroom.dms.local` [4/20/2017 7:06 PM] canibalcrab @aceat64 [4/20/2017 7:07 PM] aceat64 Heck if I know [4/20/2017 7:13 PM] .ladyl If we do, it's news to me (we didn't use to... not sure if that's changed or not...) [4/20/2017 7:14 PM] .ladyl I don't see Brooks in here. I'll ask him about it. [4/20/2017 7:22 PM] .ladyl @Denzuko.sdf.org ~ it is something that we can do.... It's through AD (I didn't realize that... Learned something new today ~ w00t!) [4/20/2017 7:23 PM] .ladyl I'll probably be at the 'Space tomorrow night if you want to get with me about it. [4/20/2017 7:24 PM] denzuko We're using a full active directory stack?! Quite impressive. Yes since it's just adding DNS records [4/20/2017 7:24 PM] .ladyl Brooks was asking what you are going to use it for. We can go over that when I document the change though [4/20/2017 7:25 PM] denzuko I'm meeting up with ebony in a few minutes but we can chat after at the space [4/20/2017 7:25 PM] denzuko Oh that's where I'm meeting her too [4/20/2017 7:25 PM] .ladyl I won't be there tonight.... Will you be around tomorrow? [4/20/2017 7:25 PM] denzuko Not sure yet until lunch time [4/20/2017 7:26 PM] .ladyl I guess we can just play it by ear.... if it doesn't get done before you go camping, can it wait until after the weekend? [4/20/2017 7:39 PM] cat_skat. DNS resolves 192.168 addresses, so offhand I'd say yes. [4/20/2017 7:40 PM] cat_skat. Not sure whether it's split servers inside, or doing external stuff from remote [4/20/2017 7:42 PM] .ladyl Thx as always Tapper! โ˜บ There was a time that I had been told it couldn't be done. Of course, we've had a lot of improvements over time as well. Now I get to learn a new trick... w00t! ๐Ÿ˜ [4/20/2017 7:43 PM] cat_skat. DNS on active directory is easy [4/20/2017 7:44 PM] .ladyl I trust you on that :) [4/20/2017 7:45 PM] .ladyl Brooks suggested that I look into Microsoft DNS srv records server 2012 so that'll be my homework tonight :) [4/20/2017 7:47 PM] cat_skat. Have you worked on DNS? [4/20/2017 7:50 PM] .ladyl Not really... When I started helping with network stuff at the Space, we just did redirects and mapped IP addys via the router... [4/20/2017 7:51 PM] cat_skat. It's a really really really old system [4/20/2017 7:51 PM] cat_skat. And way simpler than it sounds [4/20/2017 7:53 PM] cat_skat. Just a database. [4/20/2017 7:54 PM] .ladyl Kewl kewl! ๐Ÿ˜ [4/21/2017 8:17 PM] denzuko I'm here at the space. And yes. DNS is easy! But a big part of what the internet works with. [4/21/2017 8:18 PM] denzuko Btw is there a different DNS name for the jump server internallyโ€‹ than from outside the network? [4/21/2017 8:21 PM] .ladyl I understand what DNS is... I've just never configured it. I've always just mapped IP addys via the router because that's how we had to do it when I first started helping and I didn't realize we'd upgraded to have that functionality (via AD). We use physical.dallasmakerspace.org both inside and outside. [4/21/2017 8:22 PM] denzuko Inside ssh doesn't go-to the same server [4/21/2017 8:24 PM] .ladyl Check the wiki for JUMP info via ssh. I always just connect to JUMP via RDP. The other servers I use IP addys to ssh into... [4/21/2017 8:25 PM] .ladyl I'll be at the Space around 9 PM, but will be working with Ebony to clean up my resume. I need a decent job like last month! [4/21/2017 9:04 PM] andrew5152 far as I can tell, the wiki is accurate for ssh access. https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/JumpServerFAQ#How_can_I_access_Linux_tools_via_ssh.3F {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/JumpServerFAQ#How_can_I_access_Linux_tools_via_ssh.3F JumpServerFAQ [4/21/2017 9:27 PM] .ladyl Thx yeah it should be. I've just never bothered trying. I actually need to though... ๐Ÿ˜„ [4/24/2017 11:34 AM] limeytx Lisa, a member on talk having an issue with the Metaza not printing. I tried to respond to the thread but there's no reply button for me. Also, I thought we had the metaza added to the tools status board [4/24/2017 11:41 AM] limeytx K ignore, seems it was me that couldn't reply. I logged out and back in and now have the power back :) [4/24/2017 1:37 PM] .ladyl Thx for replying to him. I replied as well. As far as I know, only you, Kris and I are trainers on it so far. I checked the calendar and don't see any records showing that he took the class, so unless you or Kris gave him a one on one, he will need to take a class before having access. I put the gist of that in my response. Thanks again! โ˜บ [4/26/2017 4:11 PM] stansimmons2031 !volunteer [4/26/2017 4:11 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 You already have that role [4/26/2017 4:12 PM] aceat64 yeah, I guess this would be the best chat to talk about the bot in [4/26/2017 4:12 PM] stansimmons2031 Seems silly to volunteer for my own committee, but hey, there it is. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [4/26/2017 4:12 PM] aceat64 looks like it added the role "volunteers" to you and @pearce withotu issue [4/26/2017 4:12 PM] aceat64 @StanSimmons the idea is to replace stewards chat with an opt-in chat on discord [4/26/2017 4:14 PM] canibalcrab The part I didn't communicate to Andrew when I was brain storming was that it would give a small description of the chat and what was expected from it like people who spend too much time at the space, people who are willing to come up to work on a non project task, etc [4/26/2017 4:15 PM] canibalcrab Like opting in to volunteer enlistment for the space [4/26/2017 4:16 PM] aceat64 we can add all that, I just went super bare bones for the first iteration [4/26/2017 4:16 PM] aceat64 let me know what you want the bot to say and when, and I can do it [4/26/2017 4:16 PM] aceat64 !about [4/26/2017 4:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I'm the friendly bot for managing various automatic rules and features of the Dallas Makerspace Discord chat server. My source code is available at: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot Contribute to dms-discord-bot development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/h94bcxCSt4wuY2METAsHH2Aq72l0sS4PQCIhdVcrKxc/%3Fv%3D3%26s%3D400/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‹ ๐Ÿ‘ [4/26/2017 4:17 PM] canibalcrab And example of what goes on would be this chat is the first place to go with " we're headed back from Sam's, we need people to clear the bay and get ready to help unload" like the stewardsโ€‹ chat [4/26/2017 4:56 PM] mell.jpg Ohhhhhh thanks for the explanation. Wasn't sure what the purpose was. Get it now. [4/26/2017 4:56 PM] mell.jpg !volunteer [4/26/2017 4:56 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Role added [4/26/2017 6:51 PM] canibalcrab The tldr is the #deleted-channel is an opt in chat that will replace the Hangout called the stewards chat. [4/26/2017 7:34 PM] aceat64 I moved #deleted-channel up to the top of the chat list [4/26/2017 7:35 PM] aceat64 I also pinned a message explaining the chat's purpose and how to enter/exit it [4/26/2017 7:41 PM] denzuko damn.. there goes my elaberate irc bot to discord via bitlebee gateway [4/26/2017 7:46 PM] aceat64 you can have multiple bots in discord [4/26/2017 7:47 PM] aceat64 just send me the `Client ID` and I can add your bot to the server [4/26/2017 9:19 PM] denzuko not quite my point but sure, 306976431915925505 [4/26/2017 9:19 PM] denzuko ChanServ will live again [4/26/2017 9:50 PM] aceat64 you'll need to check "public bot" for a bit [4/26/2017 9:50 PM] aceat64 so I can join it to the server [4/26/2017 9:59 PM] canibalcrab Sounds cool. It will be cool to be able to ask it about the next class when it has the calendar attached [4/27/2017 1:04 AM] aceat64 @Denzuko.sdf.org I can't seem to authorize your bot [4/27/2017 5:08 AM] .ladyl !volunteer [4/27/2017 5:08 AM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Role added [4/27/2017 8:38 AM] robert22 !volunteer Stan the purple classroom and metal shop camera is down again [4/27/2017 8:39 AM] robert22 @StanSimmons [4/27/2017 1:57 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 1:57 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64#6357, you have been removed from the #on_hand_volunteers channel, to re-join send `!volunteer` in any channel. [4/27/2017 1:57 PM] aceat64 hmm, the mention didn't work [4/27/2017 1:57 PM] robert22 #!volunteer [4/27/2017 1:58 PM] robert22 Trying again [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] canibalcrab Robert try without extra text and no hashtag [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] aceat64 literally just `!volunteer` [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] robert22 !volunteer [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @Robert, you are now able to post in the #on_hand_volunteers channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] robert22 Success! [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] aceat64 cool, mention worked with my new code [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] aceat64 !test [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 This is a test response @nerds [4/27/2017 1:59 PM] aceat64 hmm, didn't there though [4/27/2017 2:00 PM] canibalcrab Nope [4/27/2017 2:13 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:13 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 2:13 PM] aceat64 whoops [4/27/2017 2:14 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:14 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 2:14 PM] canibalcrab ITS BORKED [4/27/2017 2:14 PM] aceat64 yeah, I'm working on something a bit faster/cleaner [4/27/2017 2:15 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:15 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 2:15 PM] aceat64 wtf it's not a list you stupid script, it's a dict [4/27/2017 2:31 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:31 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 2:33 PM] aceat64 ok, apparently they're all lists not dicts, that's dumb [4/27/2017 2:33 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:33 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 2:34 PM] canibalcrab !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 2:35 PM] canibalcrab !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:35 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 2:35 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:38 PM] alerho !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:38 PM] aceat64 it's still down, I'm working on it [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64 you already have access to the #on_hand_volunteers channel. [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @aceat64, you have been removed from the #deleted-channel channel, to re-join send `!volunteer` in any channel. [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64, you have already unsubscribed from the #on_hand_volunteers channel [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @aceat64, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64 you already have access to the #on_hand_volunteers channel. [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] canibalcrab !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @pearce, you have already unsubscribed from the #on_hand_volunteers channel [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] canibalcrab !volunteer [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @pearce, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 2:41 PM] aceat64 damnit, only some of them have the channel mention working [4/27/2017 2:42 PM] canibalcrab Looks like just unvolunteer [4/27/2017 2:42 PM] canibalcrab And already unsubscribed [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64 you already have access to the #deleted-channel channel. [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @aceat64, you have been removed from the #deleted-channel channel, to re-join send `!volunteer` in any channel. [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64, you have already unsubscribed from the #deleted-channel channel [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @aceat64, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 3:03 PM] aceat64 cool, all of the mentions are working now [4/27/2017 3:04 PM] aceat64 also, turns out everything was lists and not dicts, stupid confusing documentation [4/27/2017 3:06 PM] alerho !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:06 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @Alex Rhodes, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] aceat64 lol [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the #on_hand_volunteers channel does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:16 PM] aceat64 whoops [4/27/2017 3:20 PM] aceat64 eventually I get this working well enough that I'll stop messing with it [4/27/2017 3:26 PM] canibalcrab That one went nuts [4/27/2017 3:33 PM] aceat64 it got stuck in a loop [4/27/2017 3:33 PM] aceat64 it posted the error, which generated a call to on_message() which posted an error, which generated a call to on_message() and so on [4/27/2017 3:38 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:38 PM] aceat64 hmm, still broke [4/27/2017 3:39 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:41 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 An error has occured, the volunteers role does not exist. Please tell @nerds something is wrong! [4/27/2017 3:41 PM] aceat64 almost there lol [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64 you already have access to the #deleted-channel channel. [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @aceat64, you have been removed from the #deleted-channel channel, to re-join send `!volunteer` in any channel. [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 !unvolunteer [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64, you have already unsubscribed from the #deleted-channel channel [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 !volunteer [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @aceat64, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 sweet [4/27/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 and the code is a bit cleaner now [4/27/2017 3:49 PM] aceat64 !help [4/27/2017 3:49 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I'm the friendly bot for managing various automatic rules and features of the Dallas Makerspace Discord chat server. My source code is available at: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot Contribute to dms-discord-bot development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/h94bcxCSt4wuY2METAsHH2Aq72l0sS4PQCIhdVcrKxc/%3Fv%3D3%26s%3D400/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [4/27/2017 3:49 PM] aceat64 cool [4/27/2017 3:55 PM] aceat64 !help [4/27/2017 3:55 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I'm the friendly bot for managing various automatic rules and features of the Dallas Makerspace Discord chat server. If I'm not working correctly or you'd like to help improve me, please join the infrastructure channel. My source code is available at: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot. [4/27/2017 3:55 PM] aceat64 !help [4/27/2017 3:55 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I'm the friendly bot for managing various automatic rules and features of the Dallas Makerspace Discord chat server. If I'm not working correctly or you'd like to help improve me, please join the #infrastructure channel. My source code is available at: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot. [4/27/2017 3:55 PM] aceat64 there we go, that's nicer looking [4/27/2017 3:56 PM] aceat64 I might need to make a bot testing channel [4/27/2017 3:56 PM] clone1018 ^ [4/27/2017 3:56 PM] alerho !voluntell @aceat64 make me a sandwich :) [4/27/2017 4:00 PM] aceat64 done, I'll spam #bot_testing now [4/27/2017 4:02 PM] aceat64 I was thining about it, we may want to make #deleted-channel viewable only by people with the volunteers role, so that way it shows who is "in" the chat, that or we make volunteers be a visible role [4/27/2017 4:12 PM] canibalcrab I think making it readableโ€‹ but not postable will get people into it and helping [4/27/2017 4:26 PM] aceat64 maybe make the volunteers role visible or mentionable? [4/27/2017 4:27 PM] aceat64 I could also make a command for the bot that does something [4/27/2017 4:38 PM] aceat64 what if I made a command like `!helpme my key card isn't working`, where the message and who sent it would be posted to #deleted-channel and tag them [4/27/2017 4:40 PM] aceat64 or maybe a `!whocanhelpme` that just PMs the person with a list of who is online as a volunteer [4/27/2017 4:42 PM] canibalcrab I think a lot of people with opt in and then never leave [4/27/2017 4:43 PM] alerho Time out? Maybe 24 hours? [4/27/2017 4:43 PM] aceat64 hmm a timeout would work [4/27/2017 4:44 PM] alerho If only you could do Geo fencing. [4/27/2017 4:47 PM] aceat64 too creepy, I'd need people's location data [4/27/2017 4:48 PM] alerho Or if the IP matched the spaces? [4/27/2017 4:49 PM] aceat64 I don't have the ability to see that [4/27/2017 4:53 PM] canibalcrab Nah I could be on hand and be down the street [4/27/2017 4:54 PM] canibalcrab I was also going to go through and make all the people in stewards have the role as well [4/27/2017 4:54 PM] canibalcrab Because on hand should replace it [4/27/2017 5:07 PM] aceat64 ok, I've created a `!volunteers` command that lists who's available [4/27/2017 5:07 PM] aceat64 but doesn't mention them, so it won't spam out notifications [4/27/2017 5:11 PM] aceat64 I think a timeout could work [4/27/2017 5:11 PM] aceat64 that or I just make sure to mention people who have the role whenever someone does the `!helpme` command [4/27/2017 5:12 PM] canibalcrab The second one [4/27/2017 5:12 PM] aceat64 so they'll naturally want to drop it when they aren't doing stuff [4/27/2017 5:35 PM] stansimmons2031 !volunteer [4/27/2017 5:35 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 There are currently 1 volunteers available. @lisaselk [4/27/2017 5:35 PM] stansimmons2031 !volunteer [4/27/2017 5:35 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @StanSimmons, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 5:36 PM] aceat64 how does this look for the about/commands stuff? [4/27/2017 5:36 PM] aceat64 !about [4/27/2017 5:36 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I'm the friendly bot for managing various automatic rules and features of the Dallas Makerspace Discord chat server. I understand the following commands: `!about` or `!commands` - This about message. `!help` - Request help from volunteers, for example `!help I can't access the fileserver` will send a request to the active volunteers. `!volunteer` - Add yourself to the list of active volunteers, gain access to post in the #deleted-channel channel. `!unvoluntter` - Remove yourself from the list of active volunteers once you are done for the day. `!volunteers` - List the active volunteers. If I'm not working correctly or you'd like to help improve me, please join the #infrastructure channel. My source code is available at: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot. [4/27/2017 6:24 PM] kenpurcell damn you @aceat64 we are back to IRC days I see. Great work, love it! {Reactions} dms [4/27/2017 8:33 PM] .ladyl !volunteer [4/27/2017 8:33 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @Lady L, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 8:41 PM] themitch22 !volunteer [4/27/2017 8:41 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 Hello @themitch22, you are now able to post in the #deleted-channel channel. You can use `!unvolunteer` to be removed from the channel at anytime. [4/27/2017 8:41 PM] themitch22 Yeah that's going to get annoying to see all over [4/27/2017 8:44 PM] clk9431 Easy peasy. Never volunteer. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [4/27/2017 9:01 PM] aceat64 I can change it to make it send you a PM [4/27/2017 10:01 PM] aceat64 done, most of the commands just output to PM and #deleted-channel now [4/27/2017 10:01 PM] aceat64 you can also PM the bot directly to send it commands [4/27/2017 10:03 PM] aceat64 there's also this one: [4/27/2017 10:03 PM] aceat64 !voluntell someone to do something [4/27/2017 10:03 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @aceat64 do it yourself [4/27/2017 10:04 PM] canibalcrab Haha is voluntell a commandโ€‹ [4/27/2017 10:04 PM] canibalcrab !voluntell [4/27/2017 10:04 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @pearce do it yourself [4/27/2017 10:07 PM] aceat64 it's just an easter egg ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [4/27/2017 10:07 PM] alerho Nice [4/28/2017 7:49 AM] limeytx !volunteer [4/28/2017 8:57 AM] aceat64 Whoops, I shut down the bot when I went to bed [4/28/2017 8:57 AM] aceat64 I'll run it off my server in a bit, so it'll have better uptime {Reactions} dumpsterfire [4/28/2017 9:29 AM] alerho :sloth: [4/28/2017 11:03 AM] aceat64 it's running on my server now [4/28/2017 11:03 AM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I'm the friendly bot for managing various automatic rules and features of the Dallas Makerspace Discord chat server. I understand the following commands: `!about` or `!commands` - This about message. `!help` - Request help from volunteers, for example `!help I can't access the fileserver` will send a request to the active volunteers. `!volunteer` - Add yourself to the list of active volunteers, gain access to post in the #deleted-channel channel. `!unvoluntter` - Remove yourself from the list of active volunteers and stop receiving notifcations. `!volunteers` - List the active volunteers. If I'm not working correctly or you'd like to help improve me, please join the #infrastructure channel. My source code is available at: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot. [4/28/2017 11:03 AM] aceat64 !about [4/28/2017 11:32 AM] alerho Just passing this along since I know we are looking at storage. https://slickdeals.net/f/10097440-wd-red-4tb-nas-hdd-wd40efrx-115-65-amazon-or-walmart {Embed} https://slickdeals.net/f/10097440-wd-red-4tb-nas-hdd-wd40efrx-115-65-amazon-or-walmart 4TB Western Digital Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $116 + Free Shipping Walmart.com has 4TB Western Digital Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (WD40EFRX) on sale for $118.13 - $2.48 pick-up discount = $115.65. *Select in-store pick up to get this price. If you ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/14a9HzbBmRzeU9ztLI4M6OEJqO00HY-Qm8lwk3ZyTd4/https/static.slickdealscdn.com/attachment/6/8/4/1/7/1/5467844.attach [4/28/2017 12:45 PM] kenpurcell Same price at Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Red-4TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B00EHBERSE [4/28/2017 12:46 PM] kenpurcell Damn, the 8TB drive will really make you cry when that crashes. [4/28/2017 12:49 PM] alerho I wonder if they price matched. It was $139 on Amazon earlier. [4/28/2017 1:22 PM] aceat64 I've been thinking of grabbing a pair of 6TB or 8TB disks for my home file server, probably use RaidZ on them [4/28/2017 1:24 PM] aceat64 maybe do raidz2 (so I have 3 copies total) [4/28/2017 1:46 PM] mr.clark6147 Andrew, I don't suggest that. When you lose a drive, it'll take DAYS to restripe and get up and running [4/28/2017 1:48 PM] aceat64 it's not a high priority system, it's mostly archival [4/28/2017 1:48 PM] aceat64 so data integrity is more important [4/28/2017 2:35 PM] clone1018 @Lady L do you write the software for the the tool status too? [4/28/2017 2:51 PM] .ladyl @LukeStrickland I didn't write it, I just maintain it. [4/28/2017 2:52 PM] clone1018 Do you know who wrote it @Lady L ? [4/28/2017 2:52 PM] canibalcrab Churchill? [4/28/2017 2:52 PM] .ladyl Yup [4/28/2017 2:53 PM] canibalcrab It might be nice to have a secret part of it with buttons to reset or disable all [4/28/2017 2:53 PM] clone1018 Are they still around? [4/28/2017 2:53 PM] canibalcrab For events like the move [4/28/2017 2:53 PM] canibalcrab Mike Churchill is. He's a good guy [4/28/2017 2:53 PM] .ladyl Mike is still a member [4/28/2017 2:54 PM] .ladyl It's what he calls a flat file [4/28/2017 2:54 PM] canibalcrab I hate having idea is for web stuff because I have no way to help with it [4/28/2017 2:55 PM] .ladyl Yeah... I only know how to add and remove tools and status options [4/28/2017 2:55 PM] canibalcrab Maybe we should sick the nerds on it [4/28/2017 2:55 PM] clone1018 It would be interesting to have version similar to the calendar or the maker manager, where you can login with your AD credentials to do things [4/28/2017 2:56 PM] .ladyl Do you code? [4/28/2017 2:56 PM] clone1018 Yeah, I'm a web developer by profession [4/28/2017 2:56 PM] clone1018 and passion lol [4/28/2017 2:56 PM] .ladyl If so, offer to help Stan create a new tool status tool [4/28/2017 2:57 PM] .ladyl He works with another member to do stuff that integrates with Maker Manager [4/28/2017 2:58 PM] clone1018 I'd like to learn more about how the tool status is used and updated also [4/28/2017 2:58 PM] .ladyl I haven't worked with that stuff at all [4/28/2017 2:58 PM] clone1018 Do people check it? Is it valued? [4/28/2017 2:58 PM] .ladyl Are you at the Space right now [4/28/2017 2:58 PM] clone1018 No i'm at work [4/28/2017 2:58 PM] .ladyl A few people use it for sure [4/28/2017 2:59 PM] clone1018 I'm gonna come by tomorrow and Sunday though for sure [4/28/2017 3:01 PM] .ladyl I'll be doing family stuff part of the time... let me know when you are here, and I'll let you know if I'm able to swing by or not [4/28/2017 3:02 PM] clone1018 Sure [4/28/2017 3:03 PM] .ladyl ๐Ÿ‘ [4/28/2017 3:37 PM] aceat64 can someone send me the info for connecting to AD for auth? if I get a chance this weekend I have an idea for an app/bot but I'll need to authenticate to AD [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] clone1018 here's the meat @A. Spencer(jast) https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager/blob/ec18fe9a08886a874ab45e2bf229e43e10eb8822/src/Auth/LdapAuthenticate.php#L10 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager/blob/ec18fe9a08886a874ab45e2bf229e43e10eb8822/src/Auth/LdapAuthenticate.php Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager Contribute to makermanager development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/h94bcxCSt4wuY2METAsHH2Aq72l0sS4PQCIhdVcrKxc/%3Fv%3D3%26s%3D400/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] clone1018 shoot sorry jast [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] aceat64 awesome [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] clone1018 @aceat64 [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] clone1018 However you'll have to get with someone else on the values of the ActiveDirectory config [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] aceat64 I want to tie more things into discord, looking at the webhook stuff now [4/28/2017 3:39 PM] clone1018 afaik the ldap auth is also somehow very slow [4/28/2017 3:40 PM] aceat64 yeah, the login for the wiki crawls [4/28/2017 3:40 PM] alerho It's faster now. [4/28/2017 3:40 PM] alerho Brooks fixed the firwall in aws [4/28/2017 3:40 PM] alerho I haven't had any delays since he did that. [4/28/2017 3:40 PM] aceat64 neat, I just checked, it's a lot better [4/28/2017 3:41 PM] clone1018 Good to know [4/28/2017 3:41 PM] alerho Also Mike kelp created a rest API to interface with AD. [4/28/2017 3:42 PM] alerho Stan knows more about that though. [4/28/2017 3:42 PM] clone1018 What uses that? [4/28/2017 3:42 PM] alerho So far the new access control, Stan's badge thing and the locker for resin in 3d fab. [4/28/2017 3:42 PM] alerho That's what I'm aware of so far. [4/28/2017 3:42 PM] clone1018 Awesome [4/28/2017 6:53 PM] limeytx Thanks @aceat64 [4/28/2017 6:53 PM] limeytx !volunteer {Reactions} dms (2) [4/29/2017 12:04 AM] stansimmons2031 https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/RFID_Member_Info_Portal#Software_3 has a python example of the api that Mike Kelp wrote. It currently doesn't do any auth checking, but will soon have an api key available and required. When given an rfid, it returns groups, and user info. {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/RFID_Member_Info_Portal RFID Member Info Portal [4/29/2017 2:21 PM] kriskat309685 Cameras down in purple classroom and lecture room [4/29/2017 3:33 PM] kenpurcell someone must have fixed since they are both up now. [4/29/2017 3:35 PM] kenpurcell however, 2991 is at 95% CPU utilization. [4/29/2017 3:36 PM] kenpurcell 2992 is at 51% CPU utilization [4/29/2017 5:15 PM] aceat64 @StanSimmons I can't seem to talk to that sign at all over serial [4/29/2017 5:15 PM] aceat64 not sure what I'm doing wrong [4/29/2017 5:29 PM] alerho Can someone look into Todd Caldwell's badge please? [4/29/2017 8:36 PM] tmc42423886 Thanks for posting, Alex. Still not working on any of the doors. DOES work on the kiosk in the big room though. [4/29/2017 9:37 PM] stansimmons2031 Todd's badge was messed up in the Chinese door controller system. Using MakerManager to delete and re add his badge fixed the problem. [4/30/2017 11:53 AM] tmc42423886 Thanks for the help, Stan. [4/30/2017 12:20 PM] stansimmons2031 @aceat64 https://www.industrologic.com/betasoft.htm [4/30/2017 12:21 PM] aceat64 I'll see it's that works with WINE [4/30/2017 12:22 PM] aceat64 You've used the software with this sign and it worked? [4/30/2017 12:22 PM] stansimmons2031 The BetaMsg.exe is what I've been using [4/30/2017 12:55 PM] aceat64 hmm, it's not working with that software, even under windows [4/30/2017 12:55 PM] aceat64 maybe the cable is wired wrong? [4/30/2017 2:52 PM] stansimmons2031 I don't think so, I used that usb adapter, yellow rj12 adapter and phone wire to program that thing a few weeks ago. You do have to set the com port in the software before it will talk, and I think it is stuck at 9600 N81 [4/30/2017 3:43 PM] aceat64 I just have a drop down to select com ports, nothing for baus rate etc [5/1/2017 1:35 AM] stansimmons2031 I've got three quotes for electricity. They are all very close. I would like everyones opinion. [5/1/2017 1:35 AM] stansimmons2031 TXU Energy, 36 month term, 0.03779 MP2 Energy, 36 month term, 0.03762 Constellation, 36 month term, 0.03753 [5/1/2017 1:36 AM] robert22 Which one supports online bill pay and provides the best metrics of internet usage [5/1/2017 1:37 AM] robert22 And paying by CC [5/1/2017 1:37 AM] robert22 Without a fee [5/1/2017 2:37 AM] .ladyl If all else is equal, go with TXU for reasons mentioned by Tapper [5/1/2017 7:19 AM] clone1018 Just in my personal experience, constellation has an out dated bill pay system [5/1/2017 7:20 AM] cat_skat. TXU has online stats, if you have an electronic meter - not sure what we have [5/1/2017 7:20 AM] robert22 Yep we do [5/1/2017 7:25 AM] robert22 I was thinking MP2 I have heard good things about them from people with solar city and they have far fewer complaints than TXU [5/1/2017 8:14 AM] clk9431 @StanSimmons Are those three quotes without using an energy broker like the one @Robert had quote the deal, or are these his numbers? [5/1/2017 8:49 AM] stansimmons2031 Those were from a broker. [5/1/2017 8:51 AM] stansimmons2031 http://ucepartners.com/ {Embed} collective http://ucepartners.com/ Home-final Our Mission Our mission is simple. Weโ€™re here to provide energy solutions for businesses. But not just your regular old ordinary energy solutions. We want to bring you solutions that match your needs, improve your business and fit your budget. Thanks to deregulation of electric and gas energy in many states across our great country, https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/NZxYOUtNXj-t4efSYGeX5Mlhfyac_7XarlSEzecIur4/http/ucepartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/UCEP-logo.png [5/1/2017 9:06 AM] clk9431 So it's the set @Robert had his friend put together. [5/1/2017 9:07 AM] robert22 same guy new quotes [5/1/2017 9:07 AM] robert22 The quotes expired that went on talk [5/1/2017 9:08 AM] clk9431 Great rates. As I told Robert once - you are buying a commodity with less differntiation than toilet paper. Choose the interface you want. Make certain there are no charges for setup or switching, and buy it. All those customer service, etc., complaints are residential, which is a whole different game. [5/1/2017 9:08 AM] clk9431 Teeny tiny bit lower, the new ones, right? [5/1/2017 9:09 AM] robert22 Yep really small difference [5/1/2017 9:09 AM] clk9431 TXU is a client of my husband's so I'm not going to help you pick one. And an interface can change on a whim. So put three names in the hat and draw one? [5/1/2017 9:41 AM] clone1018 Hey @StanSimmons will you be at the space tonight about 6PM? I'm wondering if I can borrow your brain to think about if we should make any changes to this tool status board [5/1/2017 10:34 AM] stansimmons2031 I should be there before then. [5/1/2017 10:36 AM] stansimmons2031 With less than 1% difference, it really comes down to which we feel comfortable with [5/1/2017 10:37 AM] stansimmons2031 On the power. .. [5/1/2017 7:57 PM] clone1018 Whew our tools are scattered [5/1/2017 7:58 PM] clone1018 Working on a database type list currently: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15P4exxqN6vs6ISAOoxyzQfBBKmmeiQ88OklHSkQMIjg/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15P4exxqN6vs6ISAOoxyzQfBBKmmeiQ88OklHSkQMIjg/edit?usp=sharing DMS Tool Initial Database Sheet1 Comittee, Tool, Manufacturer, Model, Power Requirements, Manual, Training Required, Ownership 3D Fab, 3D printers( QTY: 6), Polyprinter 229, 110V, Yes, Partially Donated by Ed Koffeman and PolyPrinter 3D Fab, 3D printer, PrintrBot Simple Metal, 110V, No, DMS 3D Fab, 3D printer, Mendel... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/C9L8ibaRYfoqZ1w-ep405a6uGEyIlM6q-6py51VbyEg/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/lbpTP3oxR20SywtYxykl8koSQ_c-atvldQMJyeoW1mKC6HAHh8XmWK8YxaQVDspqMKhkmg%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [5/1/2017 8:19 PM] clone1018 I love Machine Shop's pictures [5/3/2017 11:41 PM] stansimmons2031 @aceat64 Found the problem... 9600,7,E,1 [5/3/2017 11:44 PM] stansimmons2031 Page 3 of the manual... [5/3/2017 11:45 PM] aceat64 I swear I tried that lol [5/5/2017 5:05 PM] stansimmons2031 @Alex Rhodes I picked up two reams of the paper. Which committee should it charge to? Infra or PR? [5/5/2017 6:04 PM] alerho Infra. Thanks!! [5/9/2017 7:13 PM] stansimmons2031 @perpetual has created an update to the API server that lets us list out members of specific AD groups. I've used that feature to create Approved User Lists for Auto Lift, CNC Plasma, MIG Welding, TIG Welding, Woodshop Basics, Wood Lathe, Multicam CNC, 3d Basics, 3d Form2, 3d NinjaFlex, and Laser. I've added links to these (always up to date) lists in each of the committee wiki pages and have created some stickers with QRCodes for the areas. Please let me know if any other areas would like similar setups. If you don't show up on one of the lists, and you think you should, please see whomever taught your class and get their sign-off so I can add you to the list. [5/9/2017 11:42 PM] stansimmons2031 @aceat64 any luck with the sign? [5/9/2017 11:43 PM] aceat64 haven't had a chance to play with it, been getting ready for a trip [5/10/2017 11:39 PM] redbeardedpirate It seems I can't create new posts in the volunteer opportunities category on talk. What gives? [5/11/2017 12:24 AM] .ladyl https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/about-the-volunteer-opportunities-category/20015?u=lisaselk {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/about-the-volunteer-opportunities-category/20015?u=lisaselk About the Volunteer Opportunities category The Volunteer Opportunities category is a place for Committees and the Board of Directors to post volunteer opportunities at Dallas Makerspace. โš  NOTE: This category is NOT for discussion threads. Any "discussion" will be split out by one of the TALK Moderators to create a separate "discussion thread". How it works: A volunteer opportunity at Dallas Makerspace is posted by a committee (by the current committee chairperson or other member authorized by the current chair) or board m... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [5/11/2017 11:36 AM] mell.jpg I didn't realize only chairs and board members could post those either. [5/11/2017 12:35 PM] .ladyl Yup yup... it's been like that every since we rolled it out. The idea is that while a lot of members express interest in helping out, they often aren't aware of what the current needs are, or who to approach to find out what the committees or the Space in general may need help with at any given time. The Volunteer Opportunities category allows committee chairs and members of the board to get word out so members know what some of the current needs are. ๐Ÿ˜Š [5/11/2017 10:44 PM] redbeardedpirate {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/312434873367527424/Screenshot_20170511-224155.png?ex=67b94826&is=67b7f6a6&hm=b3f14f86c782916b484ce924979cd5c37eb9d6e2d8bc5a20c2c1c09d6c04c7d6& [5/11/2017 10:45 PM] redbeardedpirate Nothing against Nicole but be consistent or don't bother {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [5/11/2017 10:45 PM] redbeardedpirate Discretion of the mods would make a lot more sense IMHO [5/11/2017 10:52 PM] aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/312436739333423105/Screenshot_20170511-205155.png?ex=67b949e3&is=67b7f863&hm=1201a393704efb3ddb668b08649ef148b3d88ffb40ea7d1b2ed81bf860b9b758& [5/11/2017 11:40 PM] redbeardedpirate If a mod wants to post the sentiment from this it would be appreciated. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/issue-alarm-system-on-the-yellow-cyclone-dust-collector-in-the-woodshop-in-inop/20318/10?u=lukeiamyourfather {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/issue-alarm-system-on-the-yellow-cyclone-dust-collector-in-the-woodshop-in-inop/20318/10?u=lukeiamyourfather ISSUE: Alarm system on the yellow cyclone (dust collector) in the woodshop in inop I was going to post this in volunteer opportunities but apparently I don't have permission to do that. I ordered three sensors and buzzers and one Raspberry Pi with a screen. If you'd like to work on something in parallel (either micro-controller or Pi) let me know and I'll hook you up with the parts. I'm not able to work on this as quickly as I had planned to. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ZU38XuyOOzkQe6Dr7RGonGg-WvhQ2zLIJAOHRiHoO1Q/http/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/user_avatar/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/lukeiamyourfather/200/982_1.png [5/11/2017 11:40 PM] redbeardedpirate There are parts if someone wants to work on the sensor and alarm for the dust collector. [5/11/2017 11:42 PM] redbeardedpirate I assumed Nicole posted directly rather than it being moved. My bad. Regardless I think opening the category to more people would be beneficial. [5/12/2017 3:48 AM] .ladyl It was setup like that at Robert's request and related discussion in Infrastructure regarding his request to have the category created. As far as the update you made, I brought it to the Woodshop committee's attention and reminded them that Andrew Z or a Board member could post it and they didn't respond yet. I have no problem posting it on behalf of Woodshop - since I know it's something that you had discussed with them via Hangouts before you left it. As such, in this instance, I highly doubt they would object. [5/12/2017 8:04 AM] redbeardedpirate Thank you Lisa! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [5/12/2017 4:51 PM] robert22 The iPad I grabbed from the smartwaiver system is charging now at least it did with my charger. I am going to reinstall it today [5/12/2017 6:43 PM] limeytx IPad in Creative Arts is saying offline [5/12/2017 6:43 PM] limeytx Ipad/switch payment [5/12/2017 6:43 PM] limeytx Anything I can do to fix? [5/12/2017 6:44 PM] robert22 Fixed [5/12/2017 6:45 PM] limeytx Bueno!! I like the service around here [5/13/2017 10:47 AM] limeytx Anyone at the space able to adjust thermostat for lecture and interactive? Many bodies making much heat [5/13/2017 2:26 PM] stansimmons2031 I knocked them down a few degrees. [5/13/2017 4:18 PM] stansimmons2031 The AC for the Lecture Hall is down. It is RTU-6 and it is dripping in the workshop now. As soon as it unfreezes we will replace the filter. [5/14/2017 11:22 AM] limeytx Gotcha thanks Stan [5/14/2017 2:37 PM] kenpurcell We had a recent invoice from Lex Air, did they not replace all the filters in all units? [5/14/2017 2:42 PM] stansimmons2031 I'm not sure. I'm not convinced they are doing what they are billing us for. I'll have Jayson look when he goes up there this afternoon to see. [5/14/2017 7:50 PM] canibalcrab Any idea why my Hangouts would be broken on the "DMS member" WiFi network? [5/14/2017 8:22 PM] stansimmons2031 Hangouts and YouTube are both broken on the FiOS feed. VPN outside works, as does cell phone. [5/14/2017 9:25 PM] stansimmons2031 Fixed now. [5/15/2017 4:21 PM] canibalcrab How do people not understand they can't put stuff in front of the trash {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/313788116618182656/JPEG_20170515_162125.jpg?ex=67b8ee74&is=67b79cf4&hm=abab8f5428b2c5d335aaa6f5aa2757c3b9cfe7f6ef5c5b4977274de522a56e6b& [5/15/2017 4:31 PM] raymond011905 What is that? [5/15/2017 4:32 PM] canibalcrab I thought they were drawers but they were panels on all sides [5/15/2017 4:32 PM] canibalcrab Didn't bother to look at the bottom. Just threw them out [5/15/2017 4:38 PM] raymond011905 Was that cardboard? Perhaps from the film folks who were out side working? [5/15/2017 4:44 PM] canibalcrab Wood [5/15/2017 4:44 PM] canibalcrab Heavy [5/15/2017 4:54 PM] stansimmons2031 Probably Jimmy's bat boxes, waiting on him to drive around and get them... [5/15/2017 4:57 PM] canibalcrab That's what they sound like. I guess he pulled them from the dumpster already [5/16/2017 2:50 PM] brockelee Those are someone's bat boxes... [5/16/2017 3:55 PM] stansimmons2031 I talked to Jimmie Alridge today, those are his bat boxes. He had put them there and was in the process of getting his wife to drive around back. He recovered them from the dumpster. All is good. [5/16/2017 3:56 PM] robert22 What is a bat box? [5/16/2017 3:57 PM] stansimmons2031 A box for bats to live in. Large enough for a small colony, and typically built so that birds have a hard time getting in. [5/16/2017 4:01 PM] robert22 Got it [5/16/2017 5:54 PM] canibalcrab Yeah I didn't smash them to put them in the trash so they should be fine [5/16/2017 7:49 PM] limeytx Camera in Creative Arts doesn't seem to be working [5/16/2017 9:48 PM] stansimmons2031 Known issue, working on it. [5/17/2017 10:56 AM] limeytx Thanks Stan [5/18/2017 3:59 PM] stansimmons2031 Finally got word back from Spectrum Internet (Charter/TWC). Fiber 25/25 is $399/mo with 3yr contract. Fiber buildout is $12,586 (waived), $245 install (waived), 100 days contruction to get fiber to the suite. This would be "backup" internet for when FiOS drops again. [5/18/2017 4:00 PM] alerho thats almost what we pay for the 500/500 [5/18/2017 4:01 PM] alerho Any super objection to a cradlepoint with a sim? [5/18/2017 4:51 PM] stansimmons2031 Nope, other than slow. [5/18/2017 5:36 PM] alerho Yeah but it's just back up to keep AD synced and such right? [5/18/2017 8:52 PM] stansimmons2031 yeah, pretty much. [5/18/2017 8:53 PM] stansimmons2031 The camera system, Blue Iris, just got an update today... it messed up the web interface. Please use the phone interface or direct app. until they fix it. [5/19/2017 12:17 PM] stansimmons2031 Blue Iris got an update to the update that broke it. It is working again. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [6/2/2017 1:55 PM] jphelps Is there an air line above the ceiling to the purple classroom? Was looking at possible dropping a low volume line into CA for the Shapeoko. [6/2/2017 1:58 PM] alerho I'm pretty sure there is. I remember there being talk about it. If there is it is run near the wall towards tv. [6/2/2017 1:59 PM] alerho You'll need a ladder and a flash light to verify though. [6/2/2017 1:59 PM] jphelps Thanks. I need to grab a ladder and a light and take a peek. [6/2/2017 1:59 PM] jphelps ๐Ÿ˜‰ [6/2/2017 2:04 PM] canibalcrab Yes there is. I ran it for CA to do air brushing [6/2/2017 2:04 PM] canibalcrab Waaaay back when they were in there [6/8/2017 11:52 PM] robert22 Can anyone reach jump? [6/8/2017 11:53 PM] robert22 I am getting an error the user profile service failed the Sign-in User profile can not be loaded [6/9/2017 12:07 PM] stansimmons2031 It seems to be working fine for me today, and was working fine for me Thurs evening during tours and signups [6/9/2017 8:49 PM] limeytx Are we having internet issues? The vinyl computer is connected to network but cannot reach internet [6/9/2017 8:50 PM] limeytx Same for dual screen in CA. No internet [6/12/2017 9:01 PM] albertm0015239 Hello everyone, I'm a new member and was told to check the infrastructure chat to see if anyone can help me with my RFID badge issue. I paid my dues last Thursday but haven't been able to go to the makerspace without my card. is there a way anyone can help me? [6/13/2017 11:30 AM] stansimmons2031 Come by the space most evenings and either David K or I will be available to get you an RFID. You can even do it yourself once you get someone to let you in the building. The RFID's are in a tub in the kitchen, labeled RFID. There are two machines in the Common Room that have RFID readers where you can login to MakerManager and activate them yourself. [6/13/2017 1:01 PM] albertm0015239 Awesome ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I can't, wait I'll head there right after my physicians appointment. Thank you so much! [6/13/2017 10:45 PM] kriskat309685 It was great to meet you @albertm001 ! [6/13/2017 10:56 PM] albertm0015239 Like wise in meeting you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ and to everyone else I had the pleasure of meeting. Although I only understood about half of what was going on in my first committee meeting, I look forward to learning and growing with you all. I couldn't be more excited to be a part of an organization thats sole purpose is to help us all become better people and a more valuable parts of society. Thank you all so much for making my day! [6/17/2017 4:57 AM] themitch22 @StanSimmons can you please reserve the octoprint pi currently on 192.168.207.18 for 192.168.200.95 please? It should be ready to go [6/17/2017 9:15 AM] stansimmons2031 @themitch22 I've setup a static dhcp entry for B8:27:EB:1A:F6:7C on 192.168.200.95 [6/17/2017 4:42 PM] themitch22 Thanks Stan it works [6/19/2017 2:09 PM] clone1018 Hey @StanSimmons I would like to get temporary access to the electrical room in order to facilitate installing the robo reels and replacing some of the lights in the building. How would I go about that? [6/19/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018 Ideally the timeline would be until the end of the month [6/19/2017 7:46 PM] stansimmons2031 @LukeStrickland The next time you are at the space, let me know the date and time, then swipe your RFID on the electrical room door 5 times. I'll be able to give you access for as long as you need it for that project. [6/19/2017 7:46 PM] clone1018 Awesome, thanks [6/19/2017 7:47 PM] clone1018 I'll be there tomorrow night for the logistics meeting anyway [6/19/2017 7:48 PM] clone1018 It's at 7PM [6/19/2017 7:52 PM] stansimmons2031 I'm hoping to make the meeting, but may be stuck in Ft Worth at a client site. [6/20/2017 6:29 PM] clone1018 @StanSimmons I scanned my badge 5 times at the electrical door [6/20/2017 6:29 PM] clone1018 Just now [6/20/2017 6:39 PM] stansimmons2031 You should be good to go on the Electrical Closet access. I'm not going to make it to the Logistics meeting.... I'm still at Alliance Airport working. [6/20/2017 6:40 PM] stansimmons2031 @LukeStrickland Please test the door at your earliest convenience. [6/20/2017 6:42 PM] clone1018 It works thanks Stan [6/24/2017 6:36 PM] limeytx Both computers in CA are connected to network, can access internet, but can't find member drive [7/2/2017 7:44 PM] alerho @StanSimmons I have scheduled an initial meeting with that billing company I showed you for 6pm on Wednesday. This will be a very breif call to just introduce what we are and what we do. If you have any questions let me know before then so I know to ask. [7/2/2017 8:00 PM] canibalcrab Thunder laser has internet but no member drive [7/2/2017 10:38 PM] stansimmons2031 @Alex Rhodes If the call is at the space, I'd be happy to sit in. I'll work on some questions either way. [7/2/2017 10:47 PM] alerho That will depend on how my work day goes on Wednesday and if I can get to the space by 6. [7/7/2017 6:39 PM] limeytx Is the internet connection ok? [7/29/2017 10:51 AM] alerho Stan. I was going to update vcarve but there is not enough space on server. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/340884083079118858/unknown.png?ex=67b949ca&is=67b7f84a&hm=5b3f25cb4cc0163f3c740e5aee8101f7a421f773dc666b7d878e9e5a01b37845& [7/29/2017 10:52 AM] alerho I was going to clear out some profiles and found yours to be one of the biggest. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/340884241569284108/unknown.png?ex=67b949f0&is=67b7f870&hm=969fe4dbce13069fdceb7a11b655f8b6b8d40bbaa1fd50eadd699a2b4d3e341f& [7/29/2017 10:52 AM] alerho @StanSimmons [7/29/2017 11:04 AM] seri 147GB isn't that large? [7/29/2017 11:04 AM] alerho correct [7/29/2017 11:04 AM] alerho and there is a bunch of stuff installed [7/29/2017 11:04 AM] seri if the biggest concern is a 2.26GB account, it might be better to just buy more storage [7/29/2017 11:05 AM] alerho yeah, but im not going to solve that today [7/29/2017 11:06 AM] alerho I just want to install vcarve because people are asking for it [7/29/2017 11:07 AM] seri Ah okay [7/29/2017 12:59 PM] canibalcrab That's on a single machine where people aren't supposed to save stuff to the desktops [7/29/2017 1:01 PM] alerho If they dont log in for 7 days (I think) it kills the profile [7/29/2017 1:01 PM] alerho but i also noticed some other profile funkiness on the server [7/29/2017 1:02 PM] alerho Some people have multiple profile folders [7/29/2017 3:09 PM] stansimmons2031 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I'll go clean it up [7/29/2017 7:30 PM] denzuko rhetorical question here but what are you guys doing to take up Gb's of profile space which couldn't go to a member drive, or usb storage? [7/29/2017 7:58 PM] canibalcrab Save to local hd. Happens all the time. It's just easier for people [7/29/2017 7:59 PM] denzuko of course [7/30/2017 11:00 PM] limeytx Any idea when the cameras will be up again? [7/31/2017 1:41 AM] denzuko O.O did the go down? time to set up monitoring and alerting system [7/31/2017 8:05 AM] limeytx Not sure if its the cameras or the software {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/341567138445918210/unknown.png?ex=67b922ef&is=67b7d16f&hm=e8a8b6efecf0c936a86038b0e702b214c4493b486a8fa4aea0755b39a3faede8& [7/31/2017 8:52 PM] axeonos Let stan work on it, till then work on the dyesub [7/31/2017 9:47 PM] denzuko the dyesub? [7/31/2017 9:48 PM] denzuko oh that printer in the annex.. yeah that needed a service call. [8/1/2017 12:06 AM] stansimmons2031 Cameras on both servers should be working [8/2/2017 11:07 AM] denzuko I'm working on a network plan for our SSO/ldap auth and wondering where do most of our users come into the network from? [8/2/2017 11:30 PM] canibalcrab Zing laser PC does not connect to the member drive [8/2/2017 11:30 PM] canibalcrab Does connect to internet [8/4/2017 11:25 PM] denzuko https://sourceforge.net/p/snmpb/wiki/Home/ < snmp browser and minor graphing tool. I'm setting up snmp v2c with public community enabled across our network use a snmp browser to access the performance telemetry [8/4/2017 11:26 PM] denzuko https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.snmpbrowser&hl=en {Embed} https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.snmpbrowser&hl=en SNMP MIB Browser - Android Apps on Google Play [8/4/2017 11:26 PM] denzuko for android userss [8/12/2017 1:03 PM] robert22 Can someone check the system that emails people from talk [8/12/2017 1:04 PM] robert22 It does not appear to be sending out emails [8/12/2017 1:04 PM] robert22 Sending out activation emails [8/12/2017 1:53 PM] davidkessinger9707 I get emailed copies of PM's or when someone replies to my post. So that part of the system is working. [8/12/2017 6:24 PM] shdragon I signed up for talk yesterday and still no registration email for me, so something is stuck somewhere. [8/12/2017 8:02 PM] merissa4308 Can someone check the square kiosk in laser to see if it's working? [8/12/2017 8:24 PM] canibalcrab Seems normal {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/346101570154266626/JPEG_20170812_202353.jpg?ex=67b92734&is=67b7d5b4&hm=ccbf0131ff8f9a261f0d97af6ea489282afdd0b55dbb54416760d48412fcd75f& [8/12/2017 8:25 PM] canibalcrab Printer is broken though {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/346101987743629314/JPEG_20170812_202531.jpg?ex=67b92798&is=67b7d618&hm=af87e5b388c3d6c2a9b4b11bfcff6b55910f3cabdf83edabce97f9da3b0a3add& [8/12/2017 8:39 PM] merissa4308 Hmm ok. Looked like people were having trouble with it earlier today [8/12/2017 8:39 PM] merissa4308 Thanks for checking [8/12/2017 10:58 PM] clone1018 @pearce whenever you get back to the space, flip the printer tape over [8/12/2017 10:58 PM] clone1018 someone put new paper in incorrectly [8/12/2017 10:58 PM] clone1018 only one side has themal capabilities [8/12/2017 11:04 PM] canibalcrab K [8/12/2017 11:05 PM] canibalcrab I didn't think they could be loaded wrong [8/12/2017 11:27 PM] davidkessinger9707 Pearce: How long have you been around the Makerspace? {Reactions} trollface [8/12/2017 11:29 PM] canibalcrab Today? [8/12/2017 11:29 PM] canibalcrab Oh you mean dealing with stupid [8/12/2017 11:29 PM] canibalcrab I was spoiled by retail with printers that couldn't be loaded wrong [8/12/2017 11:29 PM] canibalcrab Magic. [8/12/2017 11:31 PM] davidkessinger9707 LOL [8/14/2017 12:30 AM] redbeardedpirate I'm not able to access my DMS email but other DMS systems work like the calendar. Is someone on infrastructure able to look into it? [8/14/2017 1:31 AM] denzuko I'll check into it on our side but is there any error messages that show up? [8/14/2017 8:25 AM] redbeardedpirate Okta says incorrect password or username [8/14/2017 8:26 AM] redbeardedpirate However other DMS systems work so I know the credentials are correct [8/14/2017 8:43 AM] denzuko have you changed your password lately? [8/14/2017 11:33 AM] canibalcrab That sounds like some sort of tag line from a medical commercial [8/14/2017 11:38 AM] redbeardedpirate @Denzuko.sdf.org my account was locked due to a billing issue that has been resolved. Changing the password seems to have to affect [8/14/2017 1:05 PM] redbeardedpirate No affect* [8/14/2017 1:07 PM] denzuko I didn't see an lock on the ad server last nite, but this helps narrow ot down. I'll remote in shortly and see how we can get this resolved. I do apologize for the inconvenience your encountering and well work quickly to get this matter taken care of asap. [8/14/2017 1:14 PM] redbeardedpirate @Denzuko.sdf.org thanks for the help ๐Ÿ˜€ [8/14/2017 1:31 PM] denzuko I applied an lock to your ad account on the master. It could take up to an hour for the ones in aws to apply the change. If theres any further issues, try resetting your password, clear your browser cache, and login again. [8/15/2017 12:36 AM] redbeardedpirate @Denzuko.sdf.org thank you. I'll try it out and let you know how it goes. [8/17/2017 2:10 AM] seri So I'm having some issues running Autodesk Fusion 360 over RDP [8/17/2017 2:11 AM] seri I've connected into physical.dallasmakerspace.org, and can access the internet(through both web browsers and `ping`), but the Autodesk launcher complains that it cannot access the internet [8/17/2017 2:12 AM] seri I'm not sure if the issue is due to some routing rules on the DMS side, or an issue with Autodesk's software [8/18/2017 9:39 AM] the_pi_rho When is the last time we updated the unifi components, they have made some really neat changes to the controller and fixed bugs on the app firmware. [8/20/2017 2:35 PM] stansimmons2031 It has been a few months. Are you volunteering? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [9/29/2017 8:36 PM] denzuko @infrastructure chair I'm trying round up every one for the requirements gathering on mm/calendar revamp and we're needing your input. when is a good time on your schedule for a quick 45min meeting? [10/2/2017 5:03 AM] stansimmons2031 any evening for me [10/7/2017 11:15 AM] Deleted User what software are you folks using for cameras? I'm trying to figure out monitoring for our makerspace and it's driving me nuts how terrible NVR software is (the free stuff at least). [10/7/2017 11:18 AM] robert22 Blue Iris itโ€™s not free but itโ€™s nice [10/7/2017 11:18 AM] robert22 You will need a decent pc [10/7/2017 11:20 AM] Deleted User thanks [10/7/2017 11:21 AM] robert22 cpu and storage are the most critics [10/7/2017 11:21 AM] robert22 Critical [11/4/2017 6:10 PM] alerho I was just told rc has disbanded. Let's use that nook to create a standing workstation area. Move all the computers off the main tables. Those computers are mainly for quick things like sign ups. We have laptops if people need to sit for a while. Who's in?!?! [11/4/2017 6:15 PM] clone1018 We're having a meeting about the common room next wednesday [11/4/2017 6:16 PM] clone1018 I'm gonna put it on the calendar nowish [11/4/2017 6:20 PM] canibalcrab Rc has storage on that pallet rack by the gantry [11/4/2017 6:22 PM] clone1018 wonder what we can do with that space [11/4/2017 6:23 PM] canibalcrab Big tools and vacuums? [11/4/2017 6:23 PM] alerho I won't be able to do meeting on Wednesday. I'm giving a tour at 5. Class at 7. Unless meeting is after 8:30. [11/4/2017 6:24 PM] canibalcrab That could be other committee storage, instead of having committee storage in the project storage racks [11/4/2017 6:25 PM] alerho Hold off on that area for the time being. [11/5/2017 3:43 PM] davidkessinger9707 Suggest we could get three graphic workstations in there very easily. So people don't tie up computers at work stations doing design work, should only be doing tweaking. They are very visibile so people that want to do other things like watching YouTube will be readily detectable. [11/6/2017 6:44 PM] stansimmons2031 And how about quit making the Makerspace a less comfortable place to be.... [11/6/2017 6:50 PM] canibalcrab More of making the design PC's used for Design and not searching eBay listings or playing Farmville {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ (3) ๐Ÿ‘ [11/7/2017 10:45 PM] denzuko sounds like we may need to look at kiosk software that can lock down the system to only a role needed [11/7/2017 11:07 PM] andrew5152 @Denzuko.sdf.org I'm not advocating it, nor have I used it that I know of, but I'm just saying it's out there: windows 10 does Kiosks: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/set-up-a-kiosk-for-windows-10-for-desktop-editions {Embed} https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/set-up-a-kiosk-for-windows-10-for-desktop-editions Set up a kiosk on Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, or Education (Windows 10) A single-use device is easy to set up in Windows 10 for desktop editions (Pro, Enterprise, and Education). https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/C7QPFALOCmNnSU5wq68xHBR2nWvPmQPYEtU9_5Gmma0/https/docs.microsoft.com/_themes/docs.theme/master/en-us/_themes/images/microsoft-header.png [11/14/2017 8:39 PM] denzuko updated maker manager for smart waver Json api [11/14/2017 8:41 PM] denzuko Mike kelm for API gateway [11/15/2017 5:15 PM] denzuko sorry guys, had to write those down quickly and discord was the only thing open [11/15/2017 6:42 PM] stansimmons2031 Mike Kelp [11/15/2017 6:47 PM] denzuko thanks Stan :) [12/10/2017 3:38 PM] karlthane What is DMS using for its SIP trunks? [12/10/2017 3:41 PM] denzuko we have an on-site asterisk server [12/10/2017 3:43 PM] denzuko as for the upstream to pots lines... that's in the admin wiki [12/10/2017 3:45 PM] karlthane Ok thanks [12/11/2017 1:15 AM] stansimmons2031 VoIP.ms [12/11/2017 2:12 AM] karlthane Thank you Stan. [12/18/2017 7:37 PM] merissa4308 A problem is being reported with logging into the PC in laser that operates the Zing (left side of back wall) [12/18/2017 7:38 PM] merissa4308 Gorman just posted about it in the laser thread. Can someone on infrastructure take a look? [12/18/2017 10:26 PM] merissa4308 Now hearing that all the laser computers are having network issues. Any help from @infrastructure chair ? [12/18/2017 10:54 PM] stansimmons2031 Working on it. [12/18/2017 10:55 PM] stansimmons2031 Something changed on the network while I was gone.... GRRR [12/18/2017 10:57 PM] denzuko right, check the ticket on GitHub. remember you brought up the vlan thing [12/18/2017 10:59 PM] merissa4308 thanks guys! [12/18/2017 10:59 PM] denzuko two firewall policies where added one for vl9 and the other for vl2. hitting the pfsence address will give the admin app but this is obviously the original issue why there was an open policy between the two vlans [12/18/2017 11:36 PM] stansimmons2031 That kind of stuff needs to be tested. Can you get in and reverse what was changed until we get a chance to look at what is going on? I'm getting complaints about not being able to login, I cant get to the cameras, etc. [12/18/2017 11:39 PM] stansimmons2031 BTW, discord will never be the primary way to get time sensitive info to me. [1/13/2018 6:29 PM] talkers @Robert what is password for Square? The CA kiosk is logged out. Stan cannot find the information in the Admin wiki. [1/13/2018 6:29 PM] talkers Who is your backup for Square? The chair of Finance? {Reactions} dms (3) [3/13/2018 11:20 AM] denzuko Just got done upgrading the dashboard for the community grid to the latest version - http://stats.communitygrid.dms.local:3000/d/000000001/system-metrics?refresh=5s&orgId=1 [3/13/2018 11:20 AM] denzuko current login is admin:admin ldap auth coming soon [3/13/2018 11:24 AM] denzuko next stages is applying a gpo for snmp on all windows machines, deploying a vm for snmp polling/traps and installing snmp on all linux/network attached systems that support it. [3/13/2018 11:27 AM] clone1018 So @Denzuko.sdf.org I wrote an app to handle voter registration, can you help me some night get it setup at DMS? externally available ? [3/13/2018 11:39 AM] denzuko @LukeStrickland be glad to, we're still on for Wednesday? [3/13/2018 11:44 AM] clone1018 yeah I'll be there [3/13/2018 11:44 AM] clone1018 I forgot what for though [3/13/2018 11:52 AM] denzuko hack-a-thon on gitlab and deploying apps to the new cloud infrastructure design {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ž [3/13/2018 11:52 AM] denzuko (ie deploying your voter registration app via cicd) [3/13/2018 11:52 AM] clone1018 ah yeah [3/13/2018 11:53 AM] clone1018 I have a metal shop meeting at some point, but it'll be quick [3/13/2018 11:54 AM] denzuko righty oh [3/13/2018 11:57 AM] denzuko oh and at some point I'd like to start enabling syslog on all the things and play around with https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/configuration/modules/omsnmp.html {Embed} admin https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/configuration/modules/omsnmp.html RSyslog Documentation The rocket-fast system for log processing https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fxDzDMd7LzPZndy5siIXVw3GO5n4XXAgAt9qX9hhVJI/http/www.rsyslog.com/files/2018/02/logo7-1.png [3/13/2018 11:58 AM] denzuko but one thing at a time [3/13/2018 3:01 PM] clone1018 What are your thoughts on MakerManager @Denzuko.sdf.org ? [3/13/2018 3:01 PM] clone1018 What are your plans [3/13/2018 3:27 PM] denzuko high level, self service portal [3/13/2018 3:27 PM] denzuko but also merge parts of it with calendar, and inventory [3/13/2018 3:29 PM] denzuko of course I'd like to just pull calendar, inventory and what we currently have for markermanager into separate smaller rest apis and take the ui parts on each for the merger [3/13/2018 3:30 PM] clone1018 what's inventory? [3/13/2018 3:33 PM] denzuko https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/inventory - inventory management system designed for the Dallas Makerspace {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/inventory Dallas-Makerspace/Inventory Inventory - An inventory management system designed for the Dallas Makerspace https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [3/13/2018 3:35 PM] popados @Denzuko.sdf.org what did you mean by framework [3/13/2018 3:35 PM] popados ive been using canvas and p5 to start [3/13/2018 3:35 PM] denzuko @LukeStrickland reading over the models looks more like a location tracker for tools, would be a good way to tie into the rfid badge system [3/13/2018 3:41 PM] denzuko @popados check my reply in general [3/14/2018 7:00 PM] denzuko @LukeStrickland hey mate, I missed my transfer so I'll remote in from the office [3/14/2018 7:03 PM] denzuko oh, do you have a ssh pub key that you prefer or could we use the one registered with GitHub? [3/14/2018 7:34 PM] clone1018 Github is fine [3/14/2018 7:42 PM] denzuko :+1: [3/19/2018 12:19 PM] clone1018 Idea for later [3/19/2018 12:20 PM] clone1018 QBO API integration to show committees their balances [3/19/2018 12:29 PM] denzuko ?? [3/19/2018 12:44 PM] alerho Quick books online. [3/19/2018 12:45 PM] alerho So if you're a chair you can log into MM and see committee balance. [3/19/2018 12:45 PM] alerho I guess you don't have to be chair [3/19/2018 12:45 PM] alerho But just my thinking of who would want it. [3/19/2018 12:48 PM] davidkessinger9707 I believe there is a function in QBO that allows custom reports to be automatically created and forwarded by email. I don't know how to do it - but believe capability exists. need to look into this. What would be great is if every day a transaction report were sent - this would allow closer moniotring of expenses. [3/19/2018 1:03 PM] clone1018 My goal for my work at DMS this year is to make everything easier for everyone via software. I want to help committees understand their funding, and the power they have [3/19/2018 1:22 PM] alerho ๐Ÿ‘ [3/19/2018 1:22 PM] alerho If there is any way I can help let me know. [3/19/2018 1:22 PM] clone1018 I'll definitely need you soon ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [3/19/2018 1:22 PM] alerho Great! [3/19/2018 2:45 PM] denzuko perfect, I think we talked a bit about this in the last priority meeting and if qbo has some good documentation then we might be able to get that rolled into say maybe.. maybe, maker manager or a central API. I'd love to see where this goes over all [3/19/2018 2:49 PM] clone1018 I'd like to maybe have a development session every week [3/19/2018 3:04 PM] denzuko same here which reminds me.. who's had a good experience with ide's on a tablet? [3/19/2018 3:04 PM] denzuko windows or android of course [3/19/2018 3:05 PM] clone1018 I don't have any, I've heard there are some electron frontend + real language backends though [3/19/2018 3:05 PM] clone1018 So for example you could run the heavy processing on a server somewhere [3/19/2018 3:07 PM] denzuko that's my thought. I've got a good set of development tools setup on the jump server (for anyone with a login to use) but the mobile network is shotty at best on the ride home so it's got me thinking of alternitives [3/19/2018 3:09 PM] clone1018 always wondered why you dont have a laptop? [3/19/2018 3:09 PM] clone1018 or dont bring one [3/19/2018 3:53 PM] denzuko Well without going into full details about the many project rigs littering my back inventory. Its mainly because I have too many each usually has its function and pain points. The biggest one is my current rig is a Lenovo - G51 (B074HCS5F2 on amazon) looks great on paper but frack unless I'm running android its a POS no matter the OS or distro. At this point I've been toying with the idea of either a Microsoft Surface or Asus ZenPad as my main rig and any other laptops in the fleet gets downgraded to cluster nodes in the studio or donated to a favorite non profit we all know and love. [3/19/2018 3:55 PM] clone1018 Ah [3/19/2018 3:55 PM] clone1018 I buy $100 lenovos on craislist [3/19/2018 3:56 PM] denzuko yeah, their good deals over all for the price. can't stand the crappy cases but the hardware is solid. [3/19/2018 3:57 PM] clone1018 Like the laptop shell? [3/19/2018 3:58 PM] clone1018 I've never really dropped mine [3/19/2018 3:58 PM] denzuko its a quality kind of thing. [3/19/2018 4:01 PM] denzuko if I can stress a corner a few mm with the pressure of a wrist and the whole top plate tries to pop open in the opposite corner then well one's truly getting what they paid for. [3/19/2018 4:02 PM] denzuko personally though, I'm really wanting to jump hard core into AR interfaces and having the computer to be this ephemeral thing that's apart of the network itself while having an ui that's more of a virtual "AI" [3/19/2018 4:04 PM] denzuko you know something like Auger's setup on Earth Final Conflict or the Andromeda Ascendant herself. [3/19/2018 4:05 PM] clone1018 Yeah [3/19/2018 4:06 PM] clone1018 I'd rather go right from my lenovo to a full cyberbrain [3/19/2018 4:06 PM] clone1018 So I'll wait [3/19/2018 4:06 PM] denzuko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fggE3VI3NRg {Embed} untitled network https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fggE3VI3NRg Holographic Cortana Appliance This is a concept Cortana appliance Iโ€™ve built. Itโ€™s basically what I imagined Microsoftโ€™s version of Alexa or Google Home would be like if they were to use ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/O5sTq9h97UWCfH5cxLu2NepcVZqsAPywD1a5XPXf__s/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/fggE3VI3NRg/hqdefault.jpg [3/19/2018 4:08 PM] denzuko yes.. a cyberbrain would be great. plus an additional chip for processing power [3/19/2018 4:09 PM] denzuko oh and skilljack [3/19/2018 4:17 PM] denzuko anywho.. next gen computing aside. While I'm aware on how to access the pfsense myself. I'm working on getting the root ca used by all devices that use ssl certs. So, I'm wondering how do we usually access , e.g. typing the ip address, hostname, via magical holographic pixies inside the computer we talk too, the pfsence overall as group? [3/19/2018 4:23 PM] clone1018 I think stan just remembers things ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [3/19/2018 4:23 PM] clone1018 Btw, instead of a root ca, I instead used a FQDN at my company to issue valid certificates to internal assets [3/19/2018 4:24 PM] clone1018 For example buy a wildcard cert for dms-local.com or something and have things be pfsense.dms-local.com [3/19/2018 4:24 PM] clone1018 But I'm not a real network engineer so ๐Ÿคท [3/19/2018 5:40 PM] denzuko lol yeah no I've setup a cert chain. soo.. we sign fqdn + san on the intermediate and the root gets installed so the chain becomes valid [3/19/2018 5:41 PM] denzuko but there's also code signing too and user certs on top of it so one still needs a root ca for those plus the revocation lists. [3/19/2018 5:42 PM] denzuko <- not a network engineer but dev that's a member of CACert and IETF with infosec and datacenter background [3/20/2018 9:01 AM] clone1018 the chain isnt valid for any users computers right? since we're not on the domain so you dont have ca authority ? [3/20/2018 9:10 AM] denzuko so in the case of users or other devices that are not have the trusted root ca cert. they can ( just like thier os and browser already does for several ca cert providers ) install our root canal into thier trusted zone. There's a wiki article already on this and has the root ca available for download. [3/20/2018 9:11 AM] clone1018 yeah [3/21/2018 6:55 PM] denzuko can we have some one test connecting the jump server? need to validate the certificate is correct [3/23/2018 9:49 AM] alerho I still get prompted for the cert if that's what you're asking. [3/23/2018 1:10 PM] denzuko ok, two follow up questions on that @Alex Rhodes 1) is the Certificate Issuer "intermediate-certificate"? and have you installed the root ca chain from our wiki? [3/27/2018 4:11 PM] denzuko @LukeStrickland sorry if I muddled up your mm4 repo, got inspired to add in the api controller, a unit test, and setup the docker container stuff. [3/27/2018 4:11 PM] denzuko If anything breaks do let me know and I'll make sure to clean that up [3/27/2018 4:40 PM] clone1018 Well so [3/27/2018 4:41 PM] clone1018 for starters I'm a bit confused. [3/27/2018 4:41 PM] clone1018 It looks like you're operating under the assumption that I'm using CakePHP [3/27/2018 5:47 PM] clone1018 I pushed your commits off to their own branch for now [3/27/2018 5:47 PM] clone1018 `master` is currently production [3/27/2018 5:48 PM] clone1018 and none of the PHP code works, didnt test docker [3/27/2018 5:53 PM] denzuko righty oh, I'll spin up a test run on the community grid when I get in and clean it up. [3/27/2018 5:54 PM] denzuko oh and any further changes will be via a pull request [3/27/2018 5:56 PM] clone1018 If you want to get together sometime this week we can talk about it and get the api implemented [3/27/2018 5:59 PM] denzuko love to, I'm in route already [3/27/2018 6:28 PM] clone1018 unlikely that I'll be there tonight [3/27/2018 6:29 PM] denzuko right, I'll get something on the calendar then [3/28/2018 9:34 AM] clone1018 I'll be around Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I think [3/28/2018 9:49 AM] clone1018 Two things I want to get done this week, WHMCS hook logs and door log scraping [3/28/2018 9:51 AM] clone1018 I also want to compile the kernel necessary to get gokrazy running on an rpi 3 B+ [3/28/2018 10:00 AM] denzuko https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/5655 [3/28/2018 10:01 AM] clone1018 Ok, I'll be there next wednesday also [3/28/2018 10:01 AM] denzuko well those nodes on that din rail in the interactive museum are Rpi 3 [3/28/2018 10:06 AM] clone1018 Yeah I have a pi with me [3/28/2018 10:06 AM] clone1018 this is just recreational, it's basically a minimal bios + kernel for an rpi to only run go code [3/28/2018 10:06 AM] clone1018 no c compiler at all [3/28/2018 10:22 AM] denzuko yeah I was reading over their site and it looks promising. Just wonder how one can run docker in parallel [3/28/2018 10:23 AM] clone1018 What site? [3/28/2018 10:23 AM] clone1018 The goal would be ephemeral software [3/28/2018 10:23 AM] clone1018 I'm imaging using it with PXE boot [3/28/2018 10:24 AM] clone1018 So your bios + kernel + software is under 50MB and can be transferred to the rpi in under 10 seconds [3/28/2018 10:24 AM] clone1018 we played with PXE boot from a zero to a rpi3b+ and it was quite slow lol, lots of software overhead [3/28/2018 10:32 AM] denzuko https://gokrazy.org/showcase.html [3/28/2018 10:32 AM] clone1018 yeah [3/28/2018 10:33 AM] denzuko that actually is an interesting idea but how about network storage? [3/28/2018 10:33 AM] clone1018 I'm interested in no storage ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [3/28/2018 10:34 AM] clone1018 no practical uses just fun [3/28/2018 10:46 AM] denzuko ah [3/28/2018 10:47 AM] denzuko well I was thinking of grid computing and generally one needs some sort of storage for sharing data results and/or the computational jobs [3/28/2018 10:47 AM] clone1018 ok, so have a remote data source that all the computers are connected to [3/28/2018 10:48 AM] clone1018 that way you plug in as many rpis as you want and they all write to it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [3/28/2018 10:48 AM] clone1018 physical containers hah [3/28/2018 10:49 AM] denzuko exactly [3/28/2018 10:50 AM] denzuko that's really been the promise of grid based super computing since the 80's [3/28/2018 4:45 PM] alerho @Denzuko.sdf.org I didn't have the certs but will try soon. [3/29/2018 2:09 PM] denzuko heads up guys, the prwjump got rebooted and the updated are taking a while to complete so end users will get a please wait spinner [3/29/2018 2:09 PM] denzuko just wait it out and the updates will complete in an hour or so [3/29/2018 2:11 PM] denzuko root cause, we haven't updated the jump server in ages [3/29/2018 2:12 PM] denzuko I'll look into setting up a rdp gateway and a few backup instaces for fail over [3/29/2018 2:15 PM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org do you know what happened to Fusion 360 on the design computers? [3/29/2018 2:16 PM] denzuko there should be a gpo applied to install it [3/29/2018 2:16 PM] clone1018 It seems to have uninstalled it. [3/29/2018 2:18 PM] denzuko what?! ... let me look into it. do we know the location of the correct installer? [3/29/2018 2:19 PM] denzuko oh and is there an issue ticket ? [3/29/2018 3:21 PM] denzuko just checked. there's no gpo for the installation so I just need the msi file for fusion 360 and then that can be applied [3/29/2018 3:29 PM] clone1018 https://dl.appstreaming.autodesk.com/production/installers/Fusion%20360%20Admin%20Install.exe?_ga=2.58870830.2027482446.1521845880-1536149501.1521845880 [3/29/2018 3:29 PM] clone1018 Maybe? Thats from talk [3/29/2018 3:35 PM] denzuko right.. that's an exe. not that its a problem but I'll have to spend time converting it to a msi version [3/29/2018 3:36 PM] denzuko where there any extra steps needed like say entering a registry key? [4/4/2018 11:20 AM] denzuko cloudflare has a public tls based dns offer that's faster than Google. [4/4/2018 11:21 AM] denzuko https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-1111/ {Embed} https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-1111/ Announcing 1.1.1.1: the fastest, privacy-first consumer DNS service Cloudflare's mission is to help build a better Internet. We're excited today to take another step toward that mission with the launch of 1.1.1.1 โ€” the Internet's fastest, privacy-first consumer DNS service. This post will talk a little about wh... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/g3fW5IzEiWGLvqujIukwGzwUht7PDkEK3fR3UFUHOiw/https/blog.cloudflare.com/content/images/2018/04/1.1.1.1-fancycolor.gif [4/4/2018 11:21 AM] redroosterkey6994 I just heard about that on SecurityNow [4/4/2018 11:21 AM] denzuko it would be interesting to test it at the space [4/4/2018 11:23 AM] denzuko yes.. ipv6 resolvers at 2606:4700:4700::1111, 2606:4700:4700::1001 [4/4/2018 11:24 AM] denzuko ok, I'll set those up on the pfsense and we can text ipv6 speeds ;) [4/4/2018 11:27 AM] denzuko https://www.netgate.com/blog/dns-over-tls-with-pfsense.html {Embed} https://www.netgate.com/blog/dns-over-tls-with-pfsense.html DNS over TLS with pfSense This is the first blog post in our new series, Tips and Tricks, https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/O8fEuJCqzASOI6Wnp5bFihEVnMwbgK4ZIJyJUdGvzeA/https/www.netgate.com/assets/img/netgate-avatar.jpg [4/5/2018 7:43 PM] iamdebug I was wondering when someone was going to do that to 1.1.1.1 [4/6/2018 3:19 PM] clone1018 didnt see you on wednesday btw @Denzuko.sdf.org [4/19/2018 10:34 AM] denzuko is anyone at the space currently? [4/19/2018 10:34 AM] denzuko looks like design01 is offline [4/19/2018 10:39 AM] clone1018 Are those the 3 design computers? [4/19/2018 10:40 AM] clone1018 Sometimes members plug in a different computer, turning one of them off [4/19/2018 10:51 AM] denzuko Yeah those are the design computers [4/19/2018 10:52 AM] clone1018 I'm betting someone unplugged [4/19/2018 10:57 AM] denzuko hmm... well then.. [5/3/2018 9:54 PM] denzuko @here looks like all the linux virtual machines need to be rebooted in recovery mode and had fsck ran on the filesystem otherwise users are unable to login. [5/4/2018 12:35 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 I've been trying to get access to the DMS Youtube channel. Coul suggested I talk to Lisa, who I think was the infrastructure chair before. Does #infrastructure have the credentials for one of the Youtube channels? It would be a little embarrassing to have to create a 3rd Youtube channel because of lost credentials. [5/4/2018 12:38 AM] denzuko I'm surprised that it's not something @pr could help with. [5/4/2018 12:47 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 I'll check there too. [5/4/2018 1:04 AM] canibalcrab Sounds like you are looking for access to the admin wiki. As a chair you should have access... I think. @LukeStrickland ? [5/4/2018 9:07 AM] clone1018 My understanding is the admin wiki is a bit more controlled, most committee chairs do not have access [5/4/2018 9:07 AM] clone1018 Have you tried creating an issue / request for this @Daniel_the_Hawn [5/4/2018 9:11 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 I have not. You mean via Talk, right? [5/4/2018 9:11 AM] robert22 I looked a bit into this the original YouTube account is setup to admin@dallasmakerspace.org the problem is after moving to Okta I donโ€™t know of a way to gain access to the account anymore [5/4/2018 9:11 AM] clone1018 Yeah [5/4/2018 9:12 AM] clone1018 Actually @Daniel_the_Hawn Alex's response in #public_relations is the answer [5/4/2018 9:12 AM] robert22 I am an admin though [5/4/2018 9:12 AM] robert22 So possibly I can find a way to add you [5/4/2018 9:15 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 @Robert that would be awesome. If you can't do it today I'll talk to Stan next time I'm up there [5/4/2018 9:15 AM] robert22 Ok I found it [5/4/2018 9:15 AM] robert22 What is your email address [5/4/2018 9:16 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 Danieljhawn@gmail.com [5/4/2018 9:17 AM] robert22 Should have an invite your way [5/4/2018 9:17 AM] robert22 Btw notably coul also is an owner [5/4/2018 9:17 AM] robert22 So can also give access our [5/4/2018 9:17 AM] robert22 Out [5/4/2018 9:19 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 He said he tried and wasn't able. Got the invite, much appreciated! [5/4/2018 10:20 AM] canibalcrab We could contact YouTube and tell them to shut one of the extras down [5/4/2018 11:22 AM] daniel_the_hawn9773 I need to download the vids from the older one first, but that would be awesome, would ease my OCD for sure. [5/4/2018 3:23 PM] denzuko I still need to see why a few servers are not returning results from snmp queries but for the most part there is a monitoring system on the vl9 - https://192.168.0.213/health/metric=storage/view=graphs/ [5/4/2018 3:29 PM] denzuko say goodbye to the fog of war and hello to modern inventory alerting {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/442060194420097034/Untitled.png?ex=67b8e223&is=67b790a3&hm=fc1574fe29ea587de8475d7b4334b10d00ce4a7fb8332b6ca431ee896fa3524a& [5/7/2018 1:42 PM] denzuko whoohoo.. got the jumpbox added and logging as well [5/7/2018 1:42 PM] denzuko https://192.168.0.213/device/device=4/ [5/7/2018 1:42 PM] denzuko ^ jump box [5/7/2018 1:42 PM] denzuko login with guest / demo to take a look around [5/7/2018 3:16 PM] draco_the_drake @Denzuko.sdf.org guest / demo doesn't seem to be working [5/7/2018 3:23 PM] clone1018 @Draco guest / guest [5/7/2018 3:27 PM] draco_the_drake Thanks [5/7/2018 4:10 PM] denzuko was it guest / guest ?? [5/7/2018 4:11 PM] denzuko I can update the password or add in users if we like [5/7/2018 4:12 PM] clone1018 Yeah for me it was guest / guest [5/7/2018 4:14 PM] denzuko ok then that's the correct one [5/7/2018 4:26 PM] denzuko so from what you guys seen, any questions or comments? [5/7/2018 4:29 PM] draco_the_drake I'm learning more about the network. I learned that we have /21 network on vlan2 and a /24 on vlan10 [5/7/2018 4:30 PM] draco_the_drake I'm still trying to configure my new server .. I think it is suppose to be on vlan 2 with ip address 192.168.202.60/21 .. I think [5/7/2018 4:30 PM] draco_the_drake but right now it is getting dhcp from the 192.168.0.0/24 network [5/7/2018 4:30 PM] draco_the_drake so it must default to vlan10 [5/7/2018 4:31 PM] draco_the_drake or that port [5/7/2018 4:32 PM] denzuko so vlan2 is meant for the members (ie byod, wifi, workstations, etc..) the servers are vlan 9 [5/7/2018 4:32 PM] draco_the_drake oh ok [5/7/2018 4:32 PM] draco_the_drake and vlan 10? [5/7/2018 4:33 PM] draco_the_drake Where can I find the subnets / vlans listed? [5/7/2018 4:33 PM] denzuko 10.0.0.1 [5/7/2018 4:33 PM] denzuko that's the vpn into aws [5/7/2018 4:33 PM] denzuko https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/12KqZMwFknME2BR73HTrMNTqOchM3GG1MgD2HMCAh94o/edit?ouid=107761522727165666775&usp=sheets_home&ths=true {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/12KqZMwFknME2BR73HTrMNTqOchM3GG1MgD2HMCAh94o/edit?ouid=107761522727165666775&usp=sheets_home&ths=true DMS CMDB - Infrastructure Footprint ID, Name, Region, Site, Cost Center, Customer, Role, Owner, Application, Org, OrgUnit, Environment, Size i-022585d18045d049f, PRLXTALK, us-east-1, AWS, FUNDS_MONTHLY: Web Hosting, COMMITTEES: PR, Application Server, COMMITTEES: Infra... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/RVhWDscScqNM69nGQAaO1wYOn30k0kJffiBLpktDcT0/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/XM_4JsUNOf3UTpSGkKQ4fEteCVAl3FlnYdjUuPrZ5w2XQKJcLn_XAgVy7XHuTB03pZRHQA%3Dw1200-h630-p [5/7/2018 4:34 PM] denzuko that's what I've been able to gather which isn't in the admin wiki and between the two would be in that observium app linked above [5/7/2018 4:35 PM] denzuko lol.. anonymous panda n.n [5/7/2018 4:36 PM] draco_the_drake ah ok [5/7/2018 4:36 PM] draco_the_drake cool [5/7/2018 4:36 PM] draco_the_drake What are the phones on? [5/7/2018 4:36 PM] draco_the_drake That might be your misssing vlan [5/7/2018 4:37 PM] draco_the_drake okay .. so the server PRLXOCAST02 needs to be on VLAN9 and subnet 192.168.0.0/24 [5/7/2018 4:37 PM] draco_the_drake ok good [5/7/2018 4:38 PM] draco_the_drake I just need someone to assign me an address and change the DNS over [5/7/2018 4:38 PM] draco_the_drake right now it is set to 192.168.202.60 [5/7/2018 4:39 PM] draco_the_drake Also, stan assigned me a new ip address for the ocast-lecture lecture hall computer [5/7/2018 4:40 PM] draco_the_drake He assigned it as 192.168.200.51 but the DNS is not looking it up [5/7/2018 4:41 PM] denzuko I can get that once there's a ticket in the help desk [5/7/2018 4:52 PM] draco_the_drake created two issues [5/7/2018 5:01 PM] draco_the_drake ughhhh I can't contact the lecture hall computer any more .. I did eariler but now nothing [5/7/2018 5:01 PM] draco_the_drake not even a ping [5/7/2018 5:05 PM] draco_the_drake I will go up there and reboot everything at some point this week [5/7/2018 5:05 PM] draco_the_drake I appreciate your help and Stans [5/7/2018 5:14 PM] denzuko n.n that's why we're here [5/7/2018 5:17 PM] denzuko is cast02 a physical server? [5/7/2018 5:19 PM] denzuko I'm not seeing it in hyper-v so unless its in aws I'd take a guess that it is [5/7/2018 5:24 PM] draco_the_drake Yes it is a physical server [5/7/2018 5:24 PM] draco_the_drake It currently needs a reboot because the network in a non-tennable position but not saved [5/7/2018 5:24 PM] denzuko ah.. ok then. we'll need to make sure ad users can login particularly those of infrastructure [5/7/2018 5:25 PM] draco_the_drake Stan told me that I can set it up however I wanted [5/7/2018 5:25 PM] draco_the_drake but the other server is set up with centrify and joined to the domain .. so I don't see why this one would be any different [5/7/2018 5:26 PM] draco_the_drake This server is a worker server and wouldn't normally have public access [5/7/2018 5:26 PM] draco_the_drake the virtual server cast01 does [5/7/2018 5:26 PM] draco_the_drake and will eventually need a nice sounding name ... [5/7/2018 5:26 PM] draco_the_drake but that is later [5/7/2018 5:27 PM] denzuko righty oh. yeah I'm not about to step on anyone's toes, stan's especially so if he's said configure how ever then ok [5/7/2018 5:28 PM] denzuko just was thinking if I'm needing to configure the vlan settings on the server then there's got to be a way to login [5/7/2018 5:29 PM] denzuko @StanSimmons I think its about time we schedule the switch over to having the rdp behind openvpn [5/7/2018 5:29 PM] denzuko https://192.168.0.213/device/device=4/tab=logs/section=syslog/message=ADMINISTRATOR/ [5/7/2018 5:30 PM] denzuko Account Name: ADMINISTRATOR Failure Information ... Unknown user name or bad password [5/7/2018 5:31 PM] denzuko that's malware or someone being malcious trying to take over the jump server and there's already 408 events in the past four hours. [5/7/2018 5:35 PM] draco_the_drake Any server exposed to the internet will get all kinds of bot attacks [5/7/2018 5:37 PM] draco_the_drake Pick whatever system you are willing to keep up to date the most to be exposed [5/7/2018 5:38 PM] draco_the_drake I will say it will confuse alot of people moving it behind a VPN ... VPNs are not easy to setup .. remote desktop client is dead easy to connect [5/7/2018 5:39 PM] draco_the_drake and you don't need any extra software for RDP [5/7/2018 5:39 PM] draco_the_drake Perhaps if you made to VPN easily setupable from windows and mac like many VPN providers do [5/7/2018 5:40 PM] denzuko that's do-able [5/7/2018 5:40 PM] draco_the_drake Question .. will it go through two VPNs? Many people are getting more and more VPNs for their own internet access .. can you double up? [5/7/2018 5:43 PM] draco_the_drake What subnets would it route? I assume it wouldn't route 192.168.0.0/24 .. that is used by most home routers [5/7/2018 5:44 PM] draco_the_drake And ofcourse it would not be able to get out the gateway to our internet [5/7/2018 5:45 PM] draco_the_drake or 192.168.1.0/24 [5/7/2018 5:48 PM] draco_the_drake What you could do is setup a small subnet for the VPN and give it access to only the jump server [5/7/2018 5:49 PM] draco_the_drake and dns? [5/7/2018 5:49 PM] draco_the_drake or make the jump server as a public DNS entry [5/7/2018 5:49 PM] draco_the_drake with a private address [5/7/2018 5:49 PM] draco_the_drake that way you wouldn't need to assign a dns server to the connection [5/7/2018 5:50 PM] draco_the_drake just the small subnet [5/7/2018 5:50 PM] draco_the_drake enough for however many users you expect to connect to jump [5/7/2018 5:51 PM] draco_the_drake I'm just brainstorming here [5/7/2018 5:53 PM] denzuko no worries. most of that malicious traffic is going to be automated so basically unless we close the port everyone that's port scanning 0.0.0.0/0 for rdp and others is going to find the jump servers [5/7/2018 5:54 PM] draco_the_drake The question is has microsoft patched all or most of the exploits ... [5/7/2018 5:54 PM] denzuko the openvpn already joins as vlan 2 just like anything on the wifi / network [5/7/2018 5:54 PM] denzuko no [5/7/2018 5:54 PM] denzuko no they have not [5/7/2018 5:54 PM] draco_the_drake has openvpn? [5/7/2018 5:55 PM] draco_the_drake ah that makes sense .. it come in as a wifi .... does it set a default route or just the subnet? [5/7/2018 5:56 PM] draco_the_drake wifi like [5/7/2018 5:56 PM] draco_the_drake in other words can I join the vpn and send traffic out bound [5/7/2018 5:59 PM] draco_the_drake so basicily it gets a dhcp address in the 192.168.200.0/21 range [5/7/2018 5:59 PM] draco_the_drake I guess it wouldn't be dhcp [5/7/2018 5:59 PM] denzuko yes and from there is litterly just like being on the wifi [5/7/2018 6:00 PM] denzuko and yes it's DHCP [5/7/2018 6:01 PM] denzuko https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2018/03/credssp-rdp-exploit.html?m=1 {Embed} https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2018/03/credssp-rdp-exploit.html?m=1 CredSSP Flaw in Remote Desktop Protocol Affects All Versions of Wi... CredSSP vulnerability in Microsoft Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) affects all versions of windows and allows hackers to steal data and run malicious code. [5/7/2018 6:03 PM] draco_the_drake So we are bridging then [5/7/2018 6:03 PM] draco_the_drake it isn't just IP [5/7/2018 6:05 PM] draco_the_drake ``` Discovered by researchers at Cybersecurity firm Preempt Security, the issue (CVE-2018-0886) is a logical cryptographic flaw in CredSSP that can be exploited by a man-in-the-middle attacker with Wi-Fi or physical access to the network to steal session authentication data and perform a Remote Procedure Call attack. ``` [5/7/2018 6:05 PM] draco_the_drake Looks like you need WiFI, physical access or bridging? [5/7/2018 6:07 PM] draco_the_drake I think just IP access to the network [5/7/2018 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake as a side note .. we might not want to bridge for our VPN and move away from DHCP for it and get OpenVPN to assign addresses [5/7/2018 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake from a predefined pool [5/7/2018 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake this way we aren't dealing with all kinds of non-IP protocols potentally [5/7/2018 6:13 PM] draco_the_drake This should limit all discovery protocols that people have installed on their systems [5/7/2018 6:14 PM] draco_the_drake or many anyway [5/7/2018 6:14 PM] draco_the_drake unless we want that [5/7/2018 6:16 PM] draco_the_drake like I said .. I'm just throwing out ideas .. I'm not really advocating anything seriously [5/8/2018 10:59 AM] denzuko No worries, I appreciate it. Tends to help me think things out when I have friends that I can bounce things off of [5/8/2018 11:02 AM] denzuko and looks like that cve-2018-0886 has been moved into "mitigated" status as of this month: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4093492/credssp-updates-for-cve-2018-0886-march-13-2018 {Embed} https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4093492/credssp-updates-for-cve-2018-0886-march-13-2018 CredSSP updates for CVE-2018-0886: March 13, 2018 Describes details for the CredSSP updates for CVE-2018-0886. [5/8/2018 11:03 AM] denzuko today at that [5/8/2018 11:22 AM] denzuko looks like the syslog feature of the monitoring server is running out of ram. I'll add another 512Mb to see if that helps. If not then I'll see about migrating it over a docker based environment with auto scaling enabled. [5/8/2018 1:00 PM] denzuko ok the syslog view has been restored [5/8/2018 2:40 PM] draco_the_drake Hey @Denzuko.sdf.org ... can you just turn on the tagging to PRLXOCAST02 [5/8/2018 2:40 PM] draco_the_drake it would help me alot [5/8/2018 2:41 PM] draco_the_drake Do you need the MAC to find the port? [5/8/2018 2:44 PM] draco_the_drake The MAC is 84:2b:2b:51:a6:d0 [5/8/2018 2:44 PM] draco_the_drake VLAN2 ip is 192.168.202.60 [5/8/2018 2:45 PM] draco_the_drake default VLAN ip is 192.168.0.214 via DHCP [5/8/2018 5:05 PM] denzuko I'd actually need to do that on the server [5/8/2018 5:07 PM] denzuko neither are allowing me to connect [5/8/2018 5:09 PM] denzuko I am able to see it in the dhcp lease table but outside of that it doesn't seem to be responding [5/8/2018 5:11 PM] denzuko ok had to go through the linux jump server but now its a permission denied. go ahead and do a user add for adm_denzuko and add in my ssh key [5/8/2018 5:11 PM] denzuko `curl -sSLk https://github.com/denzuko.keys >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys` [5/8/2018 6:52 PM] draco_the_drake k [5/8/2018 6:52 PM] draco_the_drake just a sec [5/8/2018 7:03 PM] draco_the_drake ok done [5/8/2018 7:04 PM] draco_the_drake You can also get it on the domain and your stats program if you want .. same with prlxocast01 [5/8/2018 7:04 PM] draco_the_drake I just need to be able to NFS and communicate between prlxocast01 and 02 and the lecture hall ocast-lecture [5/8/2018 7:04 PM] draco_the_drake as well as the file store [5/8/2018 7:05 PM] draco_the_drake ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [5/8/2018 7:14 PM] draco_the_drake "I'd actually need to do that on the server" .. how will you switch it to tagged on the server .. when you need it switched on the switch ? [5/8/2018 7:15 PM] draco_the_drake Oh well.. as long as it does the above .. I will be happy .. switch it however you like [5/8/2018 8:48 PM] draco_the_drake @Denzuko.sdf.org [5/8/2018 11:41 PM] denzuko got prlxocast02 to join to the domain I'll revisit 01 in the morning [5/8/2018 11:43 PM] denzuko for those whom want to know, its an easy thing to do without installing centrify - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Active_Directory_Integration#GPO_considerations {Embed} https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Active_Directory_Integration Active Directory Integration [5/8/2018 11:44 PM] denzuko most of the config / hard parts is handed out by dns and dhcp anyways while the rest is making sure pam, samba, krb5, ldap-client, and resolvconf are setup with the bear minimum [5/8/2018 11:45 PM] denzuko oh Draco, we should have that as a CTF challenge triple points for the team that can replicate the domain controller and take control from that [5/9/2018 1:19 AM] draco_the_drake hmm.. well I still can't get from prlxocast02 to prlxocast01 [5/9/2018 1:20 AM] draco_the_drake Did you set tagging on the switch for the port? [5/9/2018 1:21 AM] draco_the_drake Thanks for your hard work [5/9/2018 1:22 AM] draco_the_drake I'm very appreciative [5/9/2018 1:22 AM] draco_the_drake Tomorrow is our meeting [5/10/2018 12:05 PM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org you around? [5/10/2018 12:06 PM] clone1018 DNS is down at the space or something [5/10/2018 12:11 PM] denzuko it's not just dns the pfsense is non responsive [5/10/2018 12:11 PM] denzuko physical.dallasmakerspace.org is off line [5/10/2018 12:14 PM] denzuko I'm taking a lunch break and zipping over [5/10/2018 12:31 PM] clone1018 pfsense was accessible for me [5/10/2018 12:31 PM] clone1018 but i couldnt login [5/10/2018 12:32 PM] denzuko almost on site [5/10/2018 12:34 PM] clone1018 I just left [5/10/2018 12:39 PM] denzuko {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/444191809812561920/JPEG_20180510_123931.jpg?ex=67b9631c&is=67b8119c&hm=298ffdd93f8d949e852b5afb093fd0c23f95f91f1f725ce72aeb9a35985c2fcb& [5/10/2018 12:40 PM] denzuko {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/444192094823776256/JPEG_20180510_124035.jpg?ex=67b96360&is=67b811e0&hm=db5e1568d7ac93175fc429502a38be3ca95e43d982b57cb9d731161783140f4b& [5/10/2018 12:41 PM] denzuko disk storage usage has grown [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] clone1018 great [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] denzuko {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/444192977649139722/JPEG_20180510_124410.jpg?ex=67b96432&is=67b812b2&hm=bd8c783e37fbae7acdc5ee98b131ae0e1baac5f32617d0a3bd5175d1dcf3e263& [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] clone1018 that's the physical windows server with all of the vms? [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] clone1018 yeah [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] denzuko windows jump server is the worst [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] denzuko yes it is [5/10/2018 12:44 PM] clone1018 Anyway to get into the JUMP fileserver? [5/10/2018 12:45 PM] clone1018 Also what does PRLXWWW even host? [5/10/2018 12:45 PM] clone1018 I thought all www was on aws [5/10/2018 12:46 PM] denzuko check the cmdb sheet [5/10/2018 12:46 PM] denzuko why though is prwjump 232GB?! [5/10/2018 12:47 PM] clone1018 Local file storage on the vm? [5/10/2018 12:47 PM] denzuko yeah but why... -.- [5/10/2018 12:48 PM] clone1018 It's unavoidable with members [5/10/2018 12:48 PM] clone1018 Just need to delete some of it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [5/10/2018 12:49 PM] denzuko we should set up their profiles to use their members drive be default [5/10/2018 12:50 PM] denzuko anywho. cleaning up some of the old vms here and then we can get things booted back up [5/10/2018 12:55 PM] denzuko I think we need to look into setting up replication and most likely use VMware or openstack for our vm hosts [5/10/2018 1:00 PM] clone1018 What experience do you have with a San and multiple VM hosts [5/10/2018 1:01 PM] denzuko that was a core function of my tech firm before I sold it off and got a job with softlayer [5/10/2018 1:02 PM] denzuko most of my consulting clients bring me in for openstack, docker, elk, and automation on top of the devops and it architecture work I do [5/10/2018 1:21 PM] denzuko we're live [5/10/2018 1:22 PM] denzuko I would greatly appreciate it if some would do some Post mortum on the jump server? [5/11/2018 6:58 AM] draco_the_drake @LukeStrickland ... how many new waiver signs happened yesterday? I thought you said 400 or so but I don't think we had 400 people did the walk through [5/11/2018 10:15 AM] clone1018 Very sad [5/11/2018 10:16 AM] clone1018 I was testing out new smartwaiver integration [5/11/2018 10:16 AM] clone1018 and apparently they send the same webhook multiple times [5/11/2018 10:16 AM] clone1018 Only 60 people last night [5/11/2018 10:16 AM] clone1018 `select count(distinct unique_id),date(created_at) from smartwaiver_hooks group by date(created_at)` [5/16/2018 1:55 PM] denzuko @draco I found the root cause of why I was not able to login to the admin wiki and also found the link for AWS. let me work on getting that dev db setup [5/16/2018 2:07 PM] draco_the_drake yay! [5/16/2018 2:07 PM] draco_the_drake ๐Ÿ˜„ [5/16/2018 2:14 PM] denzuko also we're still on for tonight? [5/16/2018 5:12 PM] draco_the_drake What is happening tonight? [5/17/2018 7:23 AM] denzuko got the times mixed up. I'll swing by at 1pm [5/17/2018 7:29 AM] draco_the_drake Alright good [5/17/2018 7:29 AM] draco_the_drake see you then [5/17/2018 7:30 AM] draco_the_drake Calendar software works wonders [5/17/2018 7:30 AM] draco_the_drake hehe [5/17/2018 7:30 AM] denzuko I'll love to see that :) [5/17/2018 4:50 PM] denzuko monitoring I'd buzzing about the lounge camera failing [5/17/2018 4:53 PM] denzuko almost 500m corrupted packets per second. we should check the wires and connections [5/17/2018 4:55 PM] denzuko same for cam w-mtwr [5/17/2018 5:14 PM] denzuko @Draco and @LukeStrickland once we get all the unit tests in place and a prod/preprod deployment with testing I'll take us all out to top golf [5/17/2018 5:15 PM] draco_the_drake Sounds interesting .. never been [5/17/2018 5:15 PM] draco_the_drake Can the unit testing do simple curl gets? Like for example check if the feed is working without going into the selenium stuff? [5/17/2018 5:16 PM] draco_the_drake I think we can do alot with it if it can [5/17/2018 5:16 PM] draco_the_drake I can start building tests [5/17/2018 5:20 PM] draco_the_drake ```php interface HttpRequest { public function setOption($name, $value); public function execute(); public function getInfo($name); public function close(); } class CurlRequest implements HttpRequest { private $handle = null; public function __construct($url) { $this->handle = curl_init($url); } public function setOption($name, $value) { curl_setopt($this->handle, $name, $value); } public function execute() { return curl_exec($this->handle); } public function getInfo($name) { return curl_getinfo($this->handle, $name); } public function close() { curl_close($this->handle); } } ``` [5/17/2018 5:21 PM] draco_the_drake That class should work .. [5/18/2018 5:52 AM] draco_the_drake @StanSimmons @Denzuko.sdf.org ... Do you know if we any free external IP addresses or do we just have one? Also, I'm looking into a way to put port 80 and another streaming port up on the internet for opencast. [5/18/2018 5:53 AM] draco_the_drake or 443 [5/18/2018 5:55 AM] draco_the_drake oh it should just be for our members not the general public [5/18/2018 10:02 AM] denzuko if its public then one can use the wildcard cname for apps.communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org otherwise we can create a Virtual IP and setup the traffic management for internal to the network. [5/18/2018 11:40 AM] stansimmons2031 We have a block of 5, we are only using one. Let me know what you need... on something other than discord... I can barely read this garbage app [5/18/2018 2:32 PM] draco_the_drake @StanSimmons .. I rarely use the app .. there is a desktop version [5/18/2018 5:27 PM] stansimmons2031 ... which still won't let me set a decent background/font combo that can be read by anyone over 50. [5/18/2018 5:28 PM] stansimmons2031 Get off my lawn! ๐Ÿ˜‰ [5/19/2018 12:14 AM] jestersforge7494 lol [5/25/2018 11:14 AM] denzuko @here we have a SEV One situation with talk. Lets get on the server and find out what happened. then we can figure out a strategy to ensure we do not have any further disruption of services. [5/25/2018 11:15 AM] denzuko The conference line for our break fix is 469-549-2055 [5/25/2018 11:17 AM] clone1018 I wont be available to call in [5/25/2018 11:17 AM] clone1018 I can type in discord though [5/25/2018 11:18 AM] clone1018 CPU on the server is 20% [5/25/2018 11:19 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/449607402048978955/unknown.png?ex=67b95045&is=67b7fec5&hm=83ea6182fc7ac049515a29fc2856ac3220bde7d58b5f62ae8f701a6b2d2ff66d& [5/25/2018 11:19 AM] denzuko https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/41 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/41 (SEVONE) Talk's backend is off line. ยท Issue #41 ยท Dallas-Makers... Expected Behavior Discuss server is operational Actual Behavior 502 Bad Gateway returned from server Steps to Reproduce the Problem visit https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fSk5wB3CyJU-6Te3Q15ZPemgcFAbBcumsEzM0QzbbHE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/19776 [5/25/2018 11:19 AM] denzuko discord is fine but we'll need to write up the findings on the ticket [5/25/2018 11:20 AM] clone1018 If you can ssh in I'd be curious about `df -h` [5/25/2018 11:20 AM] denzuko I'm about to setup sysdig on the instance [5/25/2018 11:21 AM] clone1018 Is discourse a container? [5/25/2018 11:21 AM] denzuko oh and logstash. We'll dig out the root cause ๐Ÿ˜„ [5/25/2018 11:21 AM] clone1018 How are you going to install software if the server is out of disk... [5/25/2018 11:23 AM] denzuko do we know which instance its running on? [5/25/2018 11:23 AM] denzuko wait.. dns '-.- [5/25/2018 11:23 AM] clone1018 `i-022585d18045d049f` [5/25/2018 11:23 AM] clone1018 `ec2-54-158-96-161.compute-1.amazonaws.com` [5/25/2018 11:23 AM] denzuko well that helped [5/25/2018 11:24 AM] denzuko PRLXTALK [5/25/2018 11:32 AM] denzuko looks like that server was rekeyed. I'm unable to access [5/25/2018 11:32 AM] denzuko going to try a different route. [5/25/2018 11:33 AM] clone1018 it probably uses brooks.pem [5/25/2018 11:33 AM] denzuko that's the one I have [5/25/2018 11:33 AM] clone1018 Oh, great [5/25/2018 11:35 AM] denzuko I'm putting a copy of the brooks key onto the jumpserver and trying from there [5/25/2018 11:36 AM] clone1018 Yeah that's my problem lol, i'm out of network [5/25/2018 11:37 AM] denzuko permission denied [5/25/2018 11:37 AM] denzuko so we'll have to backup the disk image and create a new vm [5/25/2018 11:37 AM] denzuko do we have backups/repos for the software and configs? [5/25/2018 11:38 AM] denzuko @here ^ [5/25/2018 11:38 AM] clone1018 my understanding is no [5/25/2018 11:39 AM] clone1018 I'd check with Stan for his access before doing anything destructive [5/25/2018 11:39 AM] clone1018 He may have changed the key out [5/25/2018 11:40 AM] denzuko that's the very same key he has [5/25/2018 11:40 AM] denzuko Plan of action: Create a new vm instance Backup Volume vol-0c9031e60c190630d attach a copy of the backup to the new vm instance as /recovery move all configurations and code over to a private git repo [5/25/2018 11:41 AM] denzuko fyi non of that is destructive just reactionary [5/25/2018 11:42 AM] clone1018 Are you 100% sure? Lisa and Stan have done a bunch of work on the talk server over the years [5/25/2018 11:42 AM] clone1018 plugins / etc [5/25/2018 11:43 AM] denzuko yes. item two, back up the volume. this creates a snapshot. that snapshot becomes a external drive on the new vm. the old vm just gets powered down [5/25/2018 11:43 AM] clone1018 No, i'm talking about access [5/25/2018 11:43 AM] denzuko then when services are restored we can backup all the things into a git repo [5/25/2018 11:43 AM] denzuko why are we so concerned about access? [5/25/2018 11:44 AM] clone1018 Why am I concerned about access to a broken server? lol [5/25/2018 11:45 AM] clone1018 Ok. let me know if you need anything from me [5/25/2018 11:45 AM] denzuko lol will do. [5/25/2018 11:47 AM] denzuko "Lukes Home for Dev" ๐Ÿ˜‰ [5/25/2018 11:47 AM] denzuko makes sense. [5/25/2018 11:48 AM] clone1018 Yes [5/25/2018 11:52 AM] denzuko The following instance launches have been initiated: i-090c24014fed7b5d2 [5/25/2018 11:52 AM] denzuko proceeding with migration [5/25/2018 12:05 PM] denzuko APM Account: https://rpm.newrelic.com/accounts/1908218/setup, login email is infrastructure@dallasmakerspace.org [5/25/2018 12:14 PM] denzuko belay that.. they pushed the server monitoring behind a vendor gateway. [5/25/2018 12:25 PM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org might want to communicate with stan, he just emailed me "It looks like there are TWO instances of talk running. I'm stopping both, then bringing up one." [5/25/2018 12:25 PM] clone1018 @StanSimmons [5/25/2018 12:25 PM] stansimmons2031 two instances on aws. I stopped both and am bringing one back up [5/25/2018 12:26 PM] clone1018 @StanSimmons Dwight created the second instance to recover the first instance [5/25/2018 12:26 PM] stansimmons2031 oops. [5/25/2018 12:27 PM] stansimmons2031 I had about a dozen emails, texts, etc. about talk. [5/25/2018 12:28 PM] clone1018 @StanSimmons The brooks.pem key did not work to login to the talk ec2 instance [5/25/2018 12:28 PM] clone1018 Do you have another key that works? [5/25/2018 12:28 PM] stansimmons2031 checking [5/25/2018 12:29 PM] clone1018 If not, Dwight will need to continue restoring the instance [5/25/2018 12:31 PM] denzuko hey stan [5/25/2018 12:31 PM] stansimmons2031 hmmm. my key doesn't work either. [5/25/2018 12:31 PM] denzuko that's what I thought. [5/25/2018 12:31 PM] denzuko bringing up the replacement again [5/25/2018 12:32 PM] stansimmons2031 ok, I'll get out of the way. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [5/25/2018 12:33 PM] denzuko righty oh. your more than welcome to jump in [5/25/2018 12:33 PM] denzuko need to know which software packages to install so we can finish provisioning the new instance [5/25/2018 12:35 PM] denzuko I saw a bunch of entrees in the firewall, also what else is running on that instance? [5/25/2018 12:37 PM] denzuko @StanSimmons @LukeStrickland is there anything else on the original instance other than talk? I'm about to move the block device over to the new instance [5/25/2018 12:37 PM] clone1018 I dont know if anyone knows that answer [5/25/2018 12:37 PM] clone1018 Any reason not to just mount the drive, replace the key, reboot the original ? [5/25/2018 12:38 PM] clone1018 That way we dont have to reverse engineer a server setup [5/25/2018 12:38 PM] denzuko that's basically the same procedure here [5/25/2018 12:38 PM] clone1018 Ah, so you'll be destroying the new server you created? [5/25/2018 12:38 PM] clone1018 That'll be easier I think [5/25/2018 12:39 PM] clone1018 I suspect it's simply out of disk space, so maybe deleting a log file or something while you're in there too [5/25/2018 12:48 PM] denzuko wow.. shite load of old kernel images [5/25/2018 1:20 PM] davidkessinger9707 The error message has changed. Not sure if that is progress or not. New message "Secure Connection Failed" [5/25/2018 1:26 PM] denzuko I've updated the dns and booted up the old instance [5/25/2018 1:26 PM] denzuko still getting permission denied [5/25/2018 1:27 PM] denzuko the app hasn't came back [5/25/2018 1:29 PM] davidkessinger9707 Now owrks [5/25/2018 1:29 PM] denzuko @David Kessinger semi related [5/25/2018 1:29 PM] denzuko smashing [5/25/2018 1:30 PM] denzuko @LukeStrickland @StanSimmons can you guys check if the brooks key works? [5/25/2018 1:31 PM] denzuko otherwise this is going to go down again and I'd like to ensure we have access [5/25/2018 1:34 PM] clone1018 I cannot until I'm at DMS later sorry [5/25/2018 1:35 PM] clone1018 Can you make a post on talk @Denzuko.sdf.org ? [5/25/2018 1:35 PM] denzuko yes [5/25/2018 1:35 PM] denzuko so that's back online [5/25/2018 1:35 PM] denzuko but not the ssh [5/25/2018 1:36 PM] denzuko at lease one can create an image of it and I'll work with that then [5/25/2018 1:37 PM] denzuko oh and I also incressed the storage size by 50Gb [5/25/2018 1:48 PM] denzuko post motum writeup : https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/41#issuecomment-392147986 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/41 (SEVONE) Talk's backend is off line. ยท Issue #41 ยท Dallas-Makers... Expected Behavior Discuss server is operational Actual Behavior 502 Bad Gateway returned from server Steps to Reproduce the Problem visit https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fSk5wB3CyJU-6Te3Q15ZPemgcFAbBcumsEzM0QzbbHE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/19776 [5/29/2018 4:02 PM] denzuko community grid logins should be corrected. [5/30/2018 11:03 AM] denzuko https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/43 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/43 [Maintenance] DMS Talk server maintence window ยท Issue #43 ยท Dal... Calendar Event Procedure Create snapshot Take down Talk's vm and attach storage to recovery vm Rekey instance and validate sshd_config Reattach Storage and Restart VM Prune docker Setup second... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fSk5wB3CyJU-6Te3Q15ZPemgcFAbBcumsEzM0QzbbHE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/19776 [5/30/2018 11:04 AM] denzuko just a heads up ^ [5/30/2018 11:13 AM] andrew5152 Hm. Your TOD is all over the place... Realizing it's not terribly important, but... calendar has 10-11AM, talk says 9-11AM, but notes CST, even though we're on CDT here in the Dallas area in June, meaning, if intentional, that this is scheduled from 8-10AM "local time"... Lookit that. Time for me to move along to other pedantic endeavors... {Reactions} dms [5/30/2018 11:16 AM] denzuko thanks for catching that. @.@ [5/30/2018 11:21 AM] denzuko post has been updated {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/1/2018 10:05 AM] clone1018 Talk maintenance ? [6/1/2018 10:14 AM] clone1018 What's the plan @Denzuko.sdf.org [6/1/2018 1:06 PM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org ?? [6/3/2018 1:10 AM] denzuko maintnece window is opening [6/3/2018 1:31 AM] denzuko found the cause: ``` #ssh-rsa AAAAB3.... brooks ``` the only key on the box was commented out [6/3/2018 1:31 AM] denzuko Looks like this happened on 2017-04-28 [6/3/2018 1:37 AM] denzuko key restored and updated management key added [6/3/2018 1:45 AM] denzuko access restored [6/3/2018 1:45 AM] denzuko moving on to installing ddns [6/3/2018 2:08 AM] denzuko ddns, console diagnostic, and auto-updater /cleanup installed [6/3/2018 2:09 AM] denzuko auto scanner not installed this round [6/3/2018 2:09 AM] denzuko proceeded to backup to ECR [6/3/2018 2:27 AM] denzuko clean up underway [6/3/2018 3:06 AM] denzuko wow.. the site backups are 40Gb but uploads is less than 9Gb [6/3/2018 3:10 AM] denzuko aborting the backup to ecr since that would take over 100Gb of s3 storage [6/3/2018 3:12 AM] denzuko I also went though the error logs and didn't find much other than there was some messages being delayed for sending because of frequency of concurrent messages sent. [6/3/2018 3:13 AM] denzuko maintence window has been completed successfully [6/3/2018 9:17 PM] shunsui89 So no fix on the repeat old notifications and not being notified on posts you are watching/actively participating in then? [6/4/2018 5:42 PM] draco_the_drake Also now it seems we are missing images ... s3 is reporting access denied [6/5/2018 9:39 AM] clone1018 Yeah, still slow also [6/5/2018 12:19 PM] draco_the_drake Can we reinstall discourse? Then reimport some of the messages? [6/5/2018 12:19 PM] draco_the_drake Upgrade as well [6/5/2018 12:19 PM] draco_the_drake I noticed that it isn't using RDS [6/5/2018 3:09 PM] clone1018 @Draco you gonna be around tonight? [6/5/2018 3:31 PM] draco_the_drake No most likely not at the space until later this week [6/5/2018 3:31 PM] clone1018 ok np [6/5/2018 3:32 PM] draco_the_drake I am wanting to take a look a talk ... see if I can figure out what is wrong .. I need to get access to it [6/5/2018 3:32 PM] draco_the_drake @StanSimmons [6/5/2018 3:44 PM] clone1018 I'm going to fix it tonight {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/5/2018 3:44 PM] clone1018 That's why I was inviting you lol [6/5/2018 5:26 PM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org which user can I use to login to the discourse server? [6/5/2018 5:42 PM] clone1018 We're out of cpu credits [6/5/2018 5:43 PM] clone1018 I'm enabling T2 unlimited to let it catch back up [6/5/2018 5:43 PM] clone1018 I verified our s3 bucket policy [6/5/2018 5:44 PM] clone1018 seems like expected files do not exist there [6/5/2018 5:48 PM] clone1018 https://dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/d/fd8d36f5e70e02d9be00d1451802cd8a3c2726d8.png {Embed} https://dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/d/fd8d36f5e70e02d9be00d1451802cd8a3c2726d8.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jbC6b5dm4KOcEemD30O0N_pbQmyWBgZZKM_ygMmtpqw/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/d/fd8d36f5e70e02d9be00d1451802cd8a3c2726d8.png [6/6/2018 9:39 AM] clone1018 I'm getting notifications from 3 days ago [6/6/2018 9:39 AM] clone1018 maybe it's catching up? [6/6/2018 9:48 AM] robert22 More CPU!!!! [6/6/2018 2:02 PM] davidkessinger9707 I've gotten several today that are are 3rd or 4th repeats form 3 days ago. [6/6/2018 3:22 PM] clone1018 not surprised [6/6/2018 4:56 PM] canibalcrab Any ideas on how to get better internet speeds at the space? [6/6/2018 4:56 PM] robert22 What speeds are you getting? [6/6/2018 4:58 PM] canibalcrab I couldn't tell you for sure. I was just trying to stream out and the internet was garbage. [6/6/2018 4:59 PM] robert22 Stream out? So upload [6/6/2018 4:59 PM] canibalcrab Right [6/6/2018 4:59 PM] robert22 Check it Speedtest.net [6/6/2018 4:59 PM] canibalcrab I will when I get to the space in a bit. I just know I never get close to what we say we have [6/6/2018 5:00 PM] robert22 Think it could be the streaming service? [6/6/2018 5:01 PM] canibalcrab I do know whatever we have running in pfsense kills some other stuff. Like it won't allow you to play overwatch on your personal pc [6/6/2018 5:01 PM] canibalcrab I use twitch, I'll run the stream test from them as well [6/6/2018 5:01 PM] robert22 Ya that sounds good for sure you want all the packet inspection off [6/6/2018 5:02 PM] robert22 Not sure why filtering would be emailed to block over watch [6/6/2018 5:02 PM] robert22 Enabled [6/6/2018 5:04 PM] clone1018 As far as I'm aware, it's not the internet speed. [6/6/2018 5:04 PM] canibalcrab Dunno. Brooks never looked into it because he said we shouldn't be playing at the space. That's just my example of stuff being blocked by the space routers [6/6/2018 5:04 PM] clone1018 pfsense is pretty open [6/6/2018 5:05 PM] clone1018 Can you still not play overwatch? [6/6/2018 5:05 PM] canibalcrab Haven't tried, can see what happens while I'm working on the printer [6/6/2018 5:05 PM] clone1018 Dwight & Stan got rid of a couple of useless buzzkill rules 6mo ago [6/6/2018 5:06 PM] canibalcrab We were thinking it was the APs, my laptop has newer end wifi hardware [6/6/2018 5:07 PM] clone1018 Right, so something is completely fucked between a computer and the outbound internet [6/6/2018 5:07 PM] clone1018 Sometimes the wifi will be absolute shit, sometimes it'll work great on 5GHz, sometimes plugging in a network cable is shit, sometimes its not [6/6/2018 5:07 PM] canibalcrab That's butts [6/6/2018 7:10 PM] denzuko so fyi if we're able to get me a list of overwatch's IP's/domains then I can open up the firewall for that game. if its using bittorrent or tor/i2p in anyway then no dice. [6/6/2018 7:11 PM] denzuko as for many of the speed issues theres factors like cable quality, usage traffic (yes we have a lot of users on the wifi) [6/6/2018 7:11 PM] denzuko just about anyone can see the traffic metrics by visiting prmonitoring.dms.local [6/6/2018 7:12 PM] denzuko correction, http://prlxmonitoring01/ [6/6/2018 7:16 PM] denzuko ok just checked and it looks like we're peaking around 75Mb/s usage over the past month. Daily we're barely pushing 30Mb/s. [6/7/2018 9:16 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/454468713584918558/unknown.png?ex=67b93378&is=67b7e1f8&hm=d11a75bae17990f460af35b0b2f56c7243c671a97d1dbdf3e995ccce4e811973& [6/8/2018 1:12 AM] draco_the_drake @LukeStrickland said "Sometimes the wifi will be absolute shit, sometimes it'll work great on 5GHz, sometimes plugging in a network cable is shit, sometimes its not" I noticed something strange with the wifi .. I was getting 2000ms ping times local name server .. then it came down to 500ms .. we might need to do a frequency scan and see if we might need to change channels? [6/8/2018 1:13 AM] draco_the_drake I've also noticed something when plugging in non-domain computers .. sometimes it takes a while to connect to the internet with any speed .. [6/8/2018 1:13 AM] draco_the_drake but that might have been a nameserver issue .. I don't know if that got worked out [6/8/2018 1:14 AM] draco_the_drake We have two local IP addresses that are nameservers for each network .. at one time they were not returning the same results ... @Denzuko.sdf.org did you work on them? [6/8/2018 5:19 PM] clone1018 Powered through and added all the WHMCS hooks [6/8/2018 5:19 PM] clone1018 so MM4 can start handling them [6/8/2018 5:21 PM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org do we have anything like Sentry for exception monitoring? [6/8/2018 5:47 PM] denzuko yes. [6/8/2018 5:48 PM] denzuko newrelic and logstash / syslog going into prlxmonitor01 [6/8/2018 10:06 PM] stansimmons2031 Sweet, Thanks @LukeStrickland [6/9/2018 12:19 PM] clone1018 i did finish it friday night [6/9/2018 12:19 PM] clone1018 got all the endpoints hooked up [6/13/2018 4:56 PM] draco_the_drake Has anyone looked into BuddyPress? https://buddypress.org/about/groups/ {Embed} r-a-y https://buddypress.org/about/groups/ Groups ยท BuddyPress.org Fun & flexible software for online communities, teams, and groups [6/13/2018 5:44 PM] denzuko I'd have to see a good use case for adding something that big of a change to our WordPress site [6/13/2018 5:46 PM] draco_the_drake Different site [6/13/2018 5:48 PM] draco_the_drake I'm looking to create a maker community independant of DMS [6/13/2018 5:49 PM] draco_the_drake I would like to create something that other makerspaces can use as they start up or join .... the maker community is much bigger than any one makerspace [6/13/2018 6:50 PM] denzuko yes it is. So, got to ask how would it differ from hackerspaces.org, hackaday, makerspace.com, instructables, or the other five big sites out there dedicated to makery, makerspace/hackingspaces? [6/13/2018 7:13 PM] draco_the_drake Because it is more about helping makerspaces have the tools they need to build their space [6/13/2018 7:14 PM] draco_the_drake And cooperate with other spaces [6/13/2018 7:23 PM] clone1018 makeamakerspace [6/13/2018 7:23 PM] clone1018 MAKEaSPACE [6/14/2018 7:56 PM] alerho @Denzuko.sdf.org you at the space? [6/14/2018 7:56 PM] denzuko Roger [6/14/2018 7:57 PM] alerho Ok [6/14/2018 8:02 PM] denzuko I'm in the break room getting coffee [6/19/2018 4:09 PM] canibalcrab normal for remote? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/458740045784940544/unknown.png?ex=67b8eb75&is=67b799f5&hm=f69d56202a2cdd7a4b53acb839f0f8138cb40993d698a17d439fac5331de64ad& [6/19/2018 4:19 PM] clone1018 yes [6/19/2018 4:50 PM] denzuko yes until we're using rdp gateway then it's our standard letsencrypt certs [6/19/2018 4:57 PM] canibalcrab k [6/23/2018 7:14 PM] stansimmons2031 0000386432 [6/23/2018 7:14 PM] stansimmons2031 oops [6/23/2018 9:31 PM] draco_the_drake Does anyone know how to get the number of voting members? @StanSimmons do you know? [6/23/2018 10:02 PM] andrew5152 @Draco check the active directory security group "voting mebers". Currently shows 266. [6/23/2018 10:12 PM] denzuko ldap search for CN=Voting Members,... [6/23/2018 11:20 PM] draco_the_drake Thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [6/24/2018 1:41 AM] stansimmons2031 192.168.200.32:8080/api/v1/tools/getCertifiedUsers?tool=voters&format=html [6/24/2018 3:42 PM] denzuko cool. should we set up an internal dns name for that? [6/25/2018 6:01 PM] clone1018 Stan told me @Denzuko.sdf.org and @Draco are waiting on me for calendar deployments? [6/25/2018 6:29 PM] denzuko we should sync up wensday and see what's needed to deploy the latest round of updates [6/26/2018 5:46 PM] clone1018 Deployed. [6/30/2018 10:12 PM] draco_the_drake @Denzuko.sdf.org do you mind if I give a try in setting up the samba share for domain users on the large server? [7/2/2018 1:52 AM] denzuko sure [7/2/2018 2:28 AM] draco_the_drake @Denzuko.sdf.org could you PM me the info for it? [7/3/2018 1:48 AM] draco_the_drake @Denzuko.sdf.org @StanSimmons .... it looks like PRDC1 is not accepting replication ... my adm account is in PRDC2 and PRDC3 but not in PRDC1 .. along with a few others .. I ran a status on them and that confirms that there seems to be a problem with PRDC1 [7/3/2018 1:58 AM] draco_the_drake I added a helpdesk issue [7/3/2018 1:57 PM] draco_the_drake Our DNS is out of sync .. https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/47 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/47 DNS out of sync ยท Issue #47 ยท Dallas-Makerspace/tracker Expected Behavior To run this script and get the result of 1. for ns in $(dig ns dms.local +short); do dig soa dms.local @$ns +short | cut -f 3 -d ' '; done | sort -u | wc -l This looks up ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/L_UmNP4FHvTzFhz0-GjFrsC_s0ypPMuuep8KU367SE4/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/19918682 [7/4/2018 3:16 PM] draco_the_drake It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make it tonight .. my truck has two tires that need replacing and the tire store is not open [7/9/2018 7:10 AM] limeytx Is Talk down? I can't access, getting a "took to long to respond" error [7/9/2018 7:13 AM] talkers The network at the MakerSpace was down when I left at 11pm last night. [7/9/2018 7:13 AM] talkers I'm certain it is related [7/9/2018 7:18 AM] furious_jorge Stan posted about it last night but talk was still up yhen. I'm sure its related. [7/9/2018 7:20 AM] denzuko https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/talk.dallasmakerspace.org [7/9/2018 7:22 AM] denzuko I'll have to pop on the server when I get in the office. sorry for the disruption of services guys we'll get things fixed up ASAP [7/9/2018 7:23 AM] clone1018 Who is we? [7/9/2018 7:25 AM] clone1018 Whmcs is not down, so its not RDS or the vpn causing it [7/9/2018 7:26 AM] clone1018 Calendar is also up [7/9/2018 7:26 AM] furious_jorge Wiki is up too [7/9/2018 7:28 AM] clone1018 Very strange that talk would be down [7/9/2018 7:28 AM] clone1018 Its the most disconnected service we have lol [7/9/2018 7:28 AM] clone1018 doesn't talk to the internal network for anything as far as I know [7/9/2018 7:28 AM] talkers Strange the network at the space was down. That's more pressing [7/9/2018 7:33 AM] denzuko that's more than likely because a few guys change settings to use prdc2 instead of finishing prdc4 and fixing prdc1 [7/9/2018 7:34 AM] denzuko if I can rdp in then I'll prioritize the network otherwise I'll get talk online and call the team for an emergency sev one break fix [7/9/2018 7:39 AM] denzuko mobile hotspot and rdp not a good mix but looks like the network is online [7/9/2018 8:15 AM] denzuko ok. I'm in the office and on rdp. going to check things in prlxmonitoring [7/9/2018 8:15 AM] denzuko and there we go [7/9/2018 8:15 AM] denzuko http://prlxmonitoring01/ is not resolving [7/9/2018 8:16 AM] denzuko @Draco @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium did you guys copy over the local dns settings when you got prdc1b online? [7/9/2018 8:17 AM] clone1018 Talk is pegged at 100% cpu [7/9/2018 8:17 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/465869100091047936/unknown.png?ex=67b925a8&is=67b7d428&hm=37dac7f638e9927990a83bb7e07d55c384cb1ab5577b66d52c05426c5391ff07& [7/9/2018 8:19 AM] denzuko and the pfsence is unable to authenticate [7/9/2018 8:19 AM] denzuko ok, we're in a sev one state [7/9/2018 8:19 AM] clone1018 i dont know what sev one is [7/9/2018 8:21 AM] denzuko severity priority one on the Incident Priority Matrix: https://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Checklist_Incident_Priority {Embed} https://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Checklist_Incident_Priority Checklist Incident Priority | IT Process Wiki An Incident's priority is usually determined by assessing its impact and urgency: 'Urgency' is a measure how quickly a resolution of the Incident is required. 'Impact' is measure of the extent of the Incident and of the potential damage caused by the Incident before it can be... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l4EBnj7dFCVymBP2VRNklfbBG26Iw-LQ8Pl5raGf1O0/https/wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/images/7/79/Incident-prioritization.jpg [7/9/2018 8:21 AM] denzuko so lets divy up the work here and tag team this thing [7/9/2018 8:22 AM] clone1018 ok [7/9/2018 8:22 AM] denzuko luke, looks like your already signed into aws and looking over talk. do you want to take point on that one and I can address dms.local issues that are on our home network? [7/9/2018 8:25 AM] clone1018 Sure [7/9/2018 8:25 AM] clone1018 I'll add myself to the security group so I can remote in [7/9/2018 8:28 AM] hon1nbo @Denzuko.sdf.org we rebuilt PfSense last night due to a drive failure in the unit; we also haven't finished fixing the Leap post DC rebuilt due to what I suspect is a certificate issue from the leap instance on that DC that hasn't been updated in the PfSense config [7/9/2018 8:29 AM] clone1018 What state did you leave it in? Are you working on it now? [7/9/2018 8:29 AM] clone1018 cc @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium [7/9/2018 8:30 AM] clone1018 rofl the aws control panel is down for me [7/9/2018 8:30 AM] clone1018 10/10 [7/9/2018 8:30 AM] clone1018 good now [7/9/2018 8:31 AM] denzuko righty oh @LukeStrickland besure to clean up the security holes you poke when done [7/9/2018 8:32 AM] denzuko @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium so as of right now our monitoring system (snmp and syslog with email notifications on prlxmonitoring01.dms.local) is inaccessible. What's the plan of action with the pfsense? [7/9/2018 8:34 AM] denzuko @LukeStrickland just checked, the community grid is amazingly, still online. That thing just keeps on trucking ๐Ÿ˜‰ [7/9/2018 8:35 AM] clone1018 Nice [7/9/2018 8:42 AM] clone1018 Talk's IP changed again, had to reboot to remote in, I updated DNS [7/9/2018 8:42 AM] clone1018 Figuring out what went wrong now [7/9/2018 8:42 AM] hon1nbo PfSense is currently using local auth; check with Stan for the current cred [7/9/2018 8:42 AM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/resolved-internal-network-at-dms-is-down/38967/3 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/resolved-internal-network-at-dms-is-down/38967/3 [RESOLVED] Internal network at DMS is down Looks like Iโ€™m headed back up there โ€ฆ @hon1nbo โ€ฆ are you around? https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7XDgd3EM0sR0mNzryRqZFazp5woA0cjMxY88rDkXCJM/http/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/user_avatar/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/draco/200/21690_1.png [7/9/2018 8:46 AM] clone1018 ``` Jul 8 15:57:42 ip-10-255-0-198 kernel: [3075686.112966] Out of memory: Kill process 25149 (ruby) score 93 or sacrifice child Jul 8 15:57:42 ip-10-255-0-198 kernel: [3075686.120417] Killed process 25149 (ruby) total-vm:2069436kB, anon-rss:374948kB, file-rss:0kB Jul 8 15:57:43 ip-10-255-0-198 dockerd[1041]: time="2018-07-08T15:57:42.944608073-05:00" level=error msg="libcontainerd: failed to receive event from containerd: rpc error: code = 13 desc = transport is closing" ``` [7/9/2018 8:49 AM] clone1018 Nothing in the discourse logs, last thing running before oom was hourly cron but started ooming 15 minutes after cron started [7/9/2018 8:49 AM] clone1018 I'll be curious to see the monitoring on this server when that's back up [7/9/2018 8:50 AM] denzuko same here [7/9/2018 8:51 AM] denzuko in the mean time lets get telegraf and grafana on the server [7/9/2018 8:51 AM] denzuko https://github.com/Docker-example/alpine-telegraf {Embed} https://github.com/Docker-example/alpine-telegraf Docker-example/alpine-telegraf alpine-telegraf - Docker image Telegraf (Alpine) https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3JoKPqgqXeFKby7S4Wg10EBGdpOBNhnLOcfcEGeYBgE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/26881227 [7/9/2018 8:52 AM] denzuko http://www.blog.labouardy.com/monitor-your-infrastructure-with-tig-stack/ {Embed} Mohamed Labouardy http://www.blog.labouardy.com/monitor-your-infrastructure-with-tig-stack/ Monitor your Infrastructure with TIG Stack - Mohamed Labouardy In this tutorial, I will show you how to setup a monitoring stack for your infrastructure. So you can collects data from your servers, docker containersย ๐Ÿ‹, and other kinds of network devicesย ๐Ÿ“ถ so you can analyze it for trends or problems. Note: All code is available o... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xD2Jsm3KDm0wfNg68fXsn1wwmW2fNp4qF3prIvE-3MA/http/www.blog.labouardy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/tig_stack-1.png [7/9/2018 8:52 AM] denzuko better tutorial outside of our own published to hackaday [7/9/2018 8:57 AM] clone1018 i gotta go to a meeting so I'm doing nothing at the moment btw [7/9/2018 8:58 AM] denzuko yeah I think we're out of the sev one since talk is back online and we have discovered the root cause with pfsense logins [7/9/2018 8:59 AM] denzuko Thank you @LukeStrickland and @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium for your assistance today [7/9/2018 9:05 AM] hon1nbo Added another 0 to my DMS paycheck since I came in at 1 am to work on that router [7/9/2018 9:09 AM] clone1018 shit @Denzuko.sdf.org do you remember who we use for outgoing smtp? [7/9/2018 9:09 AM] clone1018 If the IP changes, SMTP cant auth and will eventually bring talk down again lol [7/9/2018 9:09 AM] denzuko isn't that gmail? [7/9/2018 9:09 AM] clone1018 No, we use a different provider [7/9/2018 9:10 AM] clone1018 For talk / wiki / calendar [7/9/2018 9:10 AM] denzuko should be in the admin wiki then [7/9/2018 9:10 AM] clone1018 Yeah I'm searching [7/9/2018 9:10 AM] clone1018 Sparkpost! [7/9/2018 9:11 AM] denzuko that's an odd choice [7/9/2018 9:11 AM] clone1018 I agree [7/9/2018 9:11 AM] clone1018 The Allowed IP's is updated now [7/9/2018 9:11 AM] denzuko good catch [7/9/2018 9:11 AM] clone1018 Yeah, Discourse reminded me [7/9/2018 9:11 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/465882798570340362/unknown.png?ex=67b9326a&is=67b7e0ea&hm=b1bf5793411a46d784d629ba3bac00a971637000968bc3ffb034231e399ba71e& [7/9/2018 9:12 AM] clone1018 Neat feature [7/9/2018 9:12 AM] denzuko ๐Ÿ‘ [7/9/2018 9:13 AM] denzuko ok, I'll be logged in but my night day job is starting to blow up in my inbox so if we need me for any sev two or higher ring my desk - 469-549-2055 [7/9/2018 2:43 PM] draco_the_drake Someone needs to go through the txt DNS Backup of PRDC1 which Stan has and check the currrent Domain DNS servers because I am certain there are many that are not in there .. [7/9/2018 2:44 PM] draco_the_drake The old PRDC1 is running but with the network disabled [7/9/2018 2:46 PM] draco_the_drake I found the issue with the new virtualization server ... it is a Secure Bios setting that is keeping the hypervisor from running.... [7/9/2018 3:03 PM] denzuko on the drop down the VM version should be the older one not the default highlight [7/9/2018 3:03 PM] denzuko otherwise it doesn't work [7/9/2018 3:05 PM] denzuko imho, strongly suspect we should start using openstack instead of hyperv [7/9/2018 6:27 PM] draco_the_drake Are you talkiing about Gen 1 and Gen 2? [7/9/2018 9:24 PM] denzuko yes, gen 1 works and gen 2 doesn't. also the VM would need to be blown away and remade instead of trying to get the gen 2 to work [7/9/2018 11:34 PM] draco_the_drake PRDC1b is working fine with gen 2 [7/9/2018 11:35 PM] draco_the_drake the problem with PRVIR02 is in the bios [7/10/2018 12:05 AM] hon1nbo Hell no to OpenStack; that's asking for trouble. It's not meant for this size scale and would be an absurdly complex deployment for our needs. HyperV is fine for this, and works better with windows guests. If we were to switch, something like OpenNebula is better for our scale, or setup a vcenter cluster. [7/10/2018 7:42 AM] denzuko opennebula is just as complex as openstack if not more so and while I'm pro VMWare they do get costly to run over time. the thing that's good about openstack besides we're already deployed it and it's well documented is that it's really just a bunch of python apps wrapping around xen and [7/10/2018 7:44 AM] denzuko I agree hyperv is great for windows hosting but we mostly have Linux and only a rdp and ad server to host plus one cannot use rest to manage hyper v [7/10/2018 8:17 AM] draco_the_drake I'm curious why we need to create/manage VMs with REST or an API? [7/10/2018 8:23 AM] draco_the_drake Also, we hopefully will be getting another DC locally on different physical hardware .. [7/10/2018 8:37 AM] denzuko HA redundancy for systems is planned and in the works. got to least the ground work first. [7/10/2018 8:40 AM] denzuko managing our systems via an API is the cornerstone of automation and auto remediation. if the network can self detect errors and discover itself then we should help enable the network to self heal as well. [7/10/2018 8:42 AM] denzuko think it like this, the pfsense went down, that should have been caught earlier by the monitoring system and sent a billing report to Stan and myself (ie thechairs of infrastructure) for the replacement parts [7/10/2018 8:44 AM] denzuko we then can pull the report from the monitoring system and used the cicd to run scanning playbooks to verify the results [7/10/2018 8:45 AM] denzuko these same play books have web hooks that the monitoring system is able to call [7/10/2018 8:46 AM] denzuko depending on the severity the monitoring system could even use these webhooks to create virtual hardware for fail over [7/10/2018 12:04 PM] hon1nbo @Denzuko.sdf.org have you ever setup either of them? OpenStack is far more complex and intensive than OpenNebula. It has a large number more moving pieces, and a lot more requirements that make it an unreasonable choice for us. [7/10/2018 12:16 PM] denzuko outside of the interim CTO,fund management,and project management work I do. openstack and docker has been my bread and butter for years. Nmap motherboard sometime and you should find the instance I setup for the space [7/10/2018 12:21 PM] hon1nbo I review OpenStack, OpenNebula, Eucalyptus, etc as part of my work and run several private cloud deployments. I did not ask about your CTO or fund management, I asked if you yourself have deployed them (and to clarify, asking if you've ever actually deployed OpenNebula as well as OpenStack) [7/10/2018 12:22 PM] hon1nbo so don't assume openstack is best for the space because you've used it before, I ask if you've actually used anything else [7/10/2018 12:29 PM] denzuko ok let's turn this around why would open nebula be better than anything we already have? [7/10/2018 12:31 PM] hon1nbo Simpler to deploy and manage, has clean upgrade paths for long term, and easier maintanence [7/10/2018 12:32 PM] hon1nbo OpenStack is more featureful and better suited for public deployments, but separating the clutter from the basics is not sustainable [7/10/2018 12:33 PM] hon1nbo we have to operate as if someone like yourself or I are not always going to be managing things; OpenNebula, whilst simpler in terms of function, is something the average person with basic sysadmin experience can maintain [7/10/2018 12:49 PM] denzuko on that I agree, but we should also stive to have something that our caliber of tech shouldn't have to be called in to repair. So then how good is the documentation? Does one have to get a cert and read more than a manpage or is stackover more than enough to become a overnight sme? [7/10/2018 12:50 PM] hon1nbo for OpenNebula, between their docs and StackExchange anyone with basic sysadmin can manage it. I don't like to plan for someone else to handle something either, but it's not just possible outages. We have to consider that, as volunteers, we suddenly are not available or, god forbid, the truck factor activates [7/10/2018 12:53 PM] hon1nbo it's a ruby based web interface for users, an RPC API for automation, and SSH between the hypervisors to make clusters simple. It has a well documented CLI interface as well for the components. As far as Orchestration frameworks get, it's as close to "it just works" as one can get without using something like VMWare VMotion [7/10/2018 12:55 PM] hon1nbo If we had, say 100 different VLANs, that's where I'd probably switch to OpenStack since Neutron handles larger network deployments better. ONE also has hybrid cloud support (it can tie into the AWS and deploy things in sync). I believe something similar exists for OpenStack but haven't used the hybrid functionality in a while [7/10/2018 1:35 PM] denzuko that's something to keep in mind, we are a hybrid cloud in aws and on prem with a few wanting to use Google app engine (nope not happen to that or azure) so can open nebula orchestrate aws, xen, and hyperv? [7/10/2018 1:52 PM] hon1nbo I used it with HyperV back when I had those hypervisors, I ran my DCs on KVM once I graduated college since I no longer had TechNet licenses for my research labs. Haven't played with the driver since, but looking for the past few minutes and they may dropped it for some reason. Lemme do some digging to make sure. That might be a breaker right there. [7/10/2018 10:57 PM] draco_the_drake I spoke with Stan a bit today about upgrading. He wants things as simple as possible and as uncomplicated as possible. We don't have staff to manage it and the next group of volunteers will have to pick up and run with it. Documentation and Support are highly important. Both locally and the system we choose. [7/10/2018 10:58 PM] draco_the_drake I don't think we mind paying if we can get something that is well supported and simple. [7/14/2018 3:31 AM] draco_the_drake I have Hyper-V Server 2016 on PRVIR02 .. you can access it from any admin MMC ... PRDC1 is installed on it with Server 2016 but with just the OS install .. not even domain ... I was trying to access the pfSense web admin but apparently it is down and needs to be restarted via SSH .. Stan has the admin password .. I was going to take down 192.168.0.33 Vip to install the server .. DHCP needs to be changed to not use it yet [7/14/2018 3:41 AM] draco_the_drake Let me know if you work on it [7/16/2018 12:20 PM] clone1018 @Draco Hey, Stan let me know you wanted to get deploying the calendar working. [7/16/2018 12:20 PM] clone1018 We have one critical bug preventing the deployed master from launching, and it is a bug that prevents calendar events from showing up after two weeks (or something similar) [7/16/2018 12:21 PM] clone1018 @Draco can you send me a SSH key? I can add you to the deploy user so you can deploy [7/16/2018 2:40 PM] draco_the_drake @StanSimmons ... Since I am helping out with infrastructure .. I was talking to Stan about just putting a new key or keys for different people instead of the brooks.pem .. and getting rid of that [7/16/2018 2:41 PM] draco_the_drake I'm thinking that I need to be able to do what you did last week ... I need SSH access to the calendar, so that I might run cakephp console commands and composer commands ... [7/16/2018 2:44 PM] draco_the_drake I'm also going to deploy on a pre-production server before pushing anything to prod [7/16/2018 2:45 PM] draco_the_drake This is so we might test, look at changes and make certain they are what we want and in the way we want. [7/16/2018 2:45 PM] draco_the_drake @john a gorman [7/16/2018 2:45 PM] draco_the_drake @LukeStrickland [7/16/2018 2:45 PM] clone1018 The prod server has two vhosts, one for prod and one for test [7/16/2018 2:46 PM] clone1018 Deployment is done with deploy.php [7/16/2018 2:46 PM] clone1018 https://deployer.org/ {Embed} https://deployer.org/ Deployment Tool for PHP A deployment tool written in PHP with support for popular frameworks out of the box. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/N7KHGYugEPkDV_ndgxn20pN0gjQH9O8fOs4jBeRgHrg/https/deployer.org/images/opengraph-v4.png [7/16/2018 2:46 PM] draco_the_drake Ok great [7/16/2018 2:47 PM] draco_the_drake What is the URL of the test? [7/16/2018 2:48 PM] clone1018 I gotta get to my laptop, so I don't have it right now You'll have to add a host entry on your computer. [7/16/2018 2:48 PM] clone1018 it's either calendar-test.dallasmakerspace.org or test-calendar.dallasmakerspace.org [7/16/2018 2:48 PM] clone1018 The vhost should point to the EC2 instance [7/16/2018 2:48 PM] draco_the_drake I need to be able to give it out to the people deciding the features of the calendar ... okay .. I will have to add a real domain name to it [7/16/2018 2:49 PM] clone1018 I didn't make it "real" so people wouldn't accidentally discover it [7/16/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake We can put a NOINDEX on it [7/16/2018 2:49 PM] clone1018 Sure [7/16/2018 2:49 PM] clone1018 Whatever you want to do [7/16/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake *nods* .. sounds good [7/16/2018 2:49 PM] clone1018 Do you have brooks.pem? [7/16/2018 2:51 PM] draco_the_drake Stan hasn't gotten around to giving that to me .. He has wanted to for some time but you know how things go .. I suggested that I didn't need access to all of the servers and that he just add my pem to the calendar [7/16/2018 2:51 PM] draco_the_drake We just haven't gotten around to changing all of it [7/16/2018 2:51 PM] clone1018 Ok, I agree with that [7/16/2018 2:51 PM] clone1018 Has your key been added to the calendar yet? [7/16/2018 2:51 PM] clone1018 If not, please send the public one my way and I can add you [7/16/2018 2:52 PM] draco_the_drake Ok .. I will send it to you [7/16/2018 2:52 PM] draco_the_drake later today [7/16/2018 3:50 PM] talkers Thanks guys [7/16/2018 3:50 PM] talkers Having a test version avail for user test would be ideal. I'm sure I can find a few folks to help [7/16/2018 6:05 PM] clone1018 @Draco it's http://test-calendar.dallasmakerspace.org [7/16/2018 6:06 PM] clone1018 52.87.106.101 test-calendar.dallasmakerspace.org [7/16/2018 6:06 PM] clone1018 is the hosts entry [7/16/2018 6:07 PM] draco_the_drake Alright thanks [7/16/2018 6:08 PM] draco_the_drake Is that the IP for SSH? [7/16/2018 6:08 PM] draco_the_drake What is the username? [7/16/2018 6:08 PM] clone1018 root ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [7/16/2018 6:08 PM] clone1018 and I added your key [7/16/2018 6:08 PM] draco_the_drake oh haha [7/16/2018 6:08 PM] draco_the_drake thanks [7/16/2018 6:09 PM] clone1018 actually hold on [7/16/2018 6:09 PM] clone1018 I already added users [7/16/2018 6:09 PM] clone1018 @Draco what do you want your username to be? [7/16/2018 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake "draco" is fine .. or "adm_draco" ... [7/16/2018 6:12 PM] clone1018 Ok you can login with draco now with your key [7/16/2018 6:13 PM] clone1018 You can also deploy using `dep deploy prod` [7/16/2018 6:13 PM] clone1018 Which will deploy to that test-calendar [7/16/2018 6:14 PM] clone1018 Once we're confident in our deploy strategy and master code, we switch calendar over to the /srv/http/calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/app/current/public directory and we're done [7/16/2018 6:15 PM] clone1018 from then on out, easy deployments whenever [7/16/2018 6:17 PM] draco_the_drake I need to use the VPN to get to the server not the public IP, correct? [7/16/2018 6:19 PM] clone1018 Yes sorry, it's only available "at" dms [7/16/2018 6:19 PM] clone1018 So if you VPN to DMS, that should work [7/16/2018 6:25 PM] draco_the_drake I got in... thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [7/16/2018 6:26 PM] clone1018 existing calendar is something like /var/www/??? [7/16/2018 6:26 PM] clone1018 what else do you want access to @Draco ? [7/16/2018 6:29 PM] draco_the_drake I will look into it .. but that should give me what I need for the calendar .. [7/16/2018 6:30 PM] draco_the_drake We also should look into sometime this year upgrading Ubuntu releases .. it is almost at the end of life [7/16/2018 6:31 PM] draco_the_drake Thanks Luke [7/16/2018 7:10 PM] clone1018 Couldn't get OpenCast working btw [7/16/2018 7:10 PM] clone1018 From the looks of it it cant find the webcam [7/16/2018 7:10 PM] clone1018 one of the webcams [7/17/2018 3:46 AM] draco_the_drake Thanks for looking into that .. [7/17/2018 3:46 AM] draco_the_drake It is the HTML to USB that it seems to be missing [7/17/2018 3:46 AM] draco_the_drake HDMI [7/17/2018 3:47 AM] draco_the_drake but I will be up there Wedenday [7/17/2018 3:48 AM] draco_the_drake oh @LukeStrickland ... I thought I would say that I am working in the test-calendar and I'm currently working on getting it running under php 7.2 .. right now it isn't working yet .. just a note [7/17/2018 3:48 AM] draco_the_drake but it is running 7.2 on test-calendar ... still 5.6 on the production [7/18/2018 3:28 AM] draco_the_drake --- [7/18/2018 3:44 AM] draco_the_drake Also, where do I add server notes .. I feel like I need to be documenting all changes I have made to the server structure ... admin wiki? I don't have access ... perhaps someone could get me into it [7/18/2018 3:45 AM] draco_the_drake I just added a 1G swap to the calendar instance [7/18/2018 3:45 AM] draco_the_drake composer was running out of memory .. [7/18/2018 3:45 AM] talkers Documenting is good. Very good. Thank you @Draco [7/18/2018 3:46 AM] draco_the_drake We all should be doing it constantly [7/18/2018 3:46 AM] talkers An infrastructure wiki would be better than the admin wiki. Really a different group needing access [7/18/2018 3:47 AM] draco_the_drake Perhaps we need one ... I think even chairs need to be documenting changes and reasons .. [7/18/2018 3:48 AM] draco_the_drake When you have many people doing things all over the place, it would be nice to search and find some background [7/18/2018 3:48 AM] talkers Truth [7/18/2018 3:51 AM] draco_the_drake I'm not certain the wiki format is really perfect for this sort of thing .. it does give structure and information but it is not the easiest to find anything [7/18/2018 10:50 AM] alerho So last night I tried to print but the print server/DC was gone. I noticed there is now a PRDC1b but the printer isn't shared off of it. Is the printer set up on another server or are people expected to do direct IP adds? [7/18/2018 10:51 AM] alerho I know there have been issues and willing to help out where I can but I don't want to step on toes. Also my admin creds have been removed. [7/18/2018 1:04 PM] stansimmons2031 When we lost PRDC1, we lost a lot. There is almost no documentation for that stuff that I've been able to find. Until we are able to rebuild it, the direct IP is the way to go for the printer [7/18/2018 1:05 PM] stansimmons2031 @Draco , I'm still waiting on @aceat64 to set me up as admin on the admin wiki, I can't add/remove anyone until that happens. I've asked him a couple of times.... [7/18/2018 1:07 PM] stansimmons2031 In the mean time most documentation should go in the regular wiki under Infrastructure. Only security or sensitive info needs to go in the Admin Wiki. [7/18/2018 1:14 PM] alerho Unless it's changed the admin credentials for the admin wiki were tied to an AD group. [7/18/2018 1:22 PM] stansimmons2031 Andrew and Brooks are listed as local admins on it. [7/18/2018 1:42 PM] aceat64 well shit, I just saw this tag and now I see the hangouts message [7/18/2018 1:42 PM] aceat64 I can't even login to the admin wiki [7/18/2018 1:43 PM] aceat64 it rejects my creds [7/18/2018 1:47 PM] draco_the_drake Some how @Denzuko.sdf.org added himself [7/18/2018 1:49 PM] draco_the_drake Also, I don't think our internal server structure should be open to the general public. It is a security risk. [7/18/2018 1:50 PM] draco_the_drake There may need to be a members only wiki [7/24/2018 9:10 PM] canibalcrab Booooo "your network is setup with *strict NAT* this will affect game play" [8/1/2018 5:28 PM] denzuko https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/getting-meta-with-ansible-and-automation {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/getting-meta-with-ansible-and-automation Getting meta with ansible and automation After having to play around with Chef and being confronted with documentation more sparse and ivory tower than java and the plan9 os combined. Iโ€™ve decided to take a few best ideas and apply them to ansible (not that they where missing to begin with) Ansible roles Instead ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [8/1/2018 7:53 PM] gothannie I read ansible, I think Ender's Game. [8/5/2018 11:04 AM] alerho Anyone here to help a user with access? [8/5/2018 11:05 AM] alerho William (bill) James needs to have his AD rights reinstated. I no longer have access to fix it. [8/5/2018 1:19 PM] talkers Check with @MotoPilot . he's by laser [8/5/2018 1:19 PM] talkers @Alex Rhodes [8/5/2018 1:35 PM] motopilot_ At dinner now [8/6/2018 7:35 AM] woody1181 Did anyone get to this yet? [8/6/2018 7:35 AM] woody1181 "William (bill) James needs to have his AD rights reinstated." [8/6/2018 8:34 AM] denzuko did we put it up as an issue ticket? [8/6/2018 9:18 AM] woody1181 I don't see one under infrastructure [8/6/2018 9:24 AM] denzuko should be on helpdesk.dallasmakerspace.org [8/6/2018 9:24 AM] denzuko that alerts all of the team whom can fix things [8/15/2018 3:38 PM] denzuko DMS now has a dedicated tensorflow and python serverless environment. Check it out at https://tensorflow.communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org/?token=72d68548c56900f356795fa1d0bfef7e533e1b0cdce33020 [8/15/2018 5:10 PM] denzuko Doxing issue: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/52 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/52 PRLXCOMPUTE-01 Offline ยท Issue #52 ยท Dallas-Makerspace/tracker Server storage has filled up. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fSk5wB3CyJU-6Te3Q15ZPemgcFAbBcumsEzM0QzbbHE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/19776 [8/18/2018 8:52 PM] denzuko is someone working on the pfsense or switched? [8/18/2018 8:54 PM] denzuko external access to our services like the VPN, ssh/rdp, web and community grid are offline [8/18/2018 8:58 PM] denzuko Stan says there's a power outage. is everyone ok do we need some extra hands? [8/18/2018 9:00 PM] shunsui89 It was storming pretty bad over by my shop at Dnt and bush I think it was heading DMS s way, lots of rain and hailed a bit here also quite a bit of lightning [8/18/2018 9:04 PM] denzuko yeah I was about to race in through the storm but I guess everyone is enjoying a spooky time at the space from what I hear. hopefully everyone drives safe today [8/18/2018 9:48 PM] shunsui89 We have a VPN? What are those other things ? [8/18/2018 10:07 PM] denzuko yes, openvpn. it's documentation on talk. as for rdp that's remote desktop ( windows tech ) and ssh is the cli version (unix tech) [8/18/2018 10:08 PM] denzuko as for the community grid... [8/18/2018 10:09 PM] denzuko https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/vcc-computer-community-grid-signup-sheet/22523 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/vcc-computer-community-grid-signup-sheet/22523 VCC Computer Community Grid Signup Sheet Want to join the grid? [image] VCC is building a cluster just for BOINC, Tenserflow, and Docker Swarm for members to do computation using data flow graphs for scalable machine learning and running nearly any linux application inside a container. BOINC is a program that enab... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/bXDL5IMRdQBXbyk3vaH43IlrQ6HGkzFYdlaja6yeKAY/https/s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0f/d1/5b/0fd15b40756f2479ad6cc1f238a78574.jpg [8/18/2018 10:11 PM] denzuko basically think of it as free for members serverless cloud for tensorflow, nodejs, or any other thing that one can put into a docker container [8/18/2018 10:22 PM] shunsui89 Ah ok I didn't connect rdp and ssh to what they were so it's mainly the community grid and vpn I'll have to read up on thanks [8/23/2018 6:16 PM] stansimmons2031 Talk server is having difficulties. [8/24/2018 8:23 AM] denzuko @Woody got the link to the helpdesk issue ticket for the maintenance on the 26th? [8/24/2018 8:26 AM] clone1018 @Denzuko.sdf.org https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/planned-network-maintenance-8-26-3-30-5-30-am/41471 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/planned-network-maintenance-8-26-3-30-5-30-am/41471 Planned Network Maintenance 8/26 3:30 - 5:30 am There will be a planned outage of the network to perform required maintenance on our switching infrastructure. Outages will include server, network share (member and committee drives), WiFi and Internet access. Offsite Services should remain accessible from the outside reso... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CAnz8Y6i2mvfds1vIIcCALsvev7-YdOAf7vy8mSXebg/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/images/default-apple-touch-icon.png [8/28/2018 1:08 PM] denzuko @Woody you where asking about our NMS? [8/28/2018 1:09 PM] denzuko https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Infrastructure#Central_Logging_and_inventory_.28PRLXMONITORING01_.2F_monitoring.communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org.29 {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Infrastructure Infrastructure [8/28/2018 1:30 PM] denzuko http://admin-www/admin/wiki/Network#PRLXMONITORING01 [8/28/2018 1:31 PM] denzuko that and the TICKstack are in mvp stages and we're needing to get snmp or the telegraph agent setup around the space along with configuring syslog forwarding [8/28/2018 1:32 PM] denzuko if there's any volunteers for setting that up via automation then smashing [8/28/2018 3:38 PM] woody1181 yes Thanks! [8/28/2018 3:41 PM] woody1181 prlxmonitoring01 seems to be down rught now. "DB Error 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" Guessign the DB Daemon isn't running [8/28/2018 3:42 PM] denzuko I'm guess there's an ip conflict, had to go into the console and give it a static ip. [8/28/2018 3:42 PM] woody1181 What IP are you using ? [8/28/2018 3:42 PM] denzuko 0.213 [8/28/2018 3:43 PM] woody1181 .214 looks to be free if you want it. [8/28/2018 3:44 PM] denzuko sigh.. ok we'll need to update the load balencer, dns, and maybe a lot of other things too [8/28/2018 3:46 PM] woody1181 that's a vm right? [8/28/2018 3:47 PM] woody1181 we can shut it down and hunt down the other system with the Dup IP if that is the problem. [8/28/2018 3:48 PM] woody1181 easier than all the changes to the FW & DNS [8/29/2018 4:12 PM] denzuko yep its a vm [8/29/2018 4:13 PM] denzuko I'm suspecting the dup one is the util server (prlxutil) [8/29/2018 5:40 PM] hon1nbo @StanSimmons is the camera system (port 2992) down? I'm getting Connection Refused [8/29/2018 6:03 PM] hon1nbo back up [8/29/2018 6:56 PM] denzuko sounds like there's some buzz lately with the wifi acting up [8/29/2018 6:56 PM] denzuko oh.. and guess what https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/61 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/61 Motherboard offline - no dhcp lease ยท Issue #61 ยท Dallas-Makersp... Expected Behavior Undercloud server motherboard is accessable via all services Actual Behavior Layer 2 passes tests Layer 3 does not get dhcp lease Steps to Reproduce the Problem ping motherboard.d... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fSk5wB3CyJU-6Te3Q15ZPemgcFAbBcumsEzM0QzbbHE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/19776 [8/29/2018 6:57 PM] denzuko lets be kind to motherboard.. after all its running a lot of the core monitoring tools {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/29/2018 9:57 PM] stansimmons2031 I've asked @Woody to move the DHCP and DNS services from the PFSense box over to the Domain Controller as soon as he finishes fixing the Cisco routers. [8/29/2018 9:57 PM] stansimmons2031 Hopefully that will put the DHCP issues to bed and fix some of the wierdness that we see in DNS. [8/30/2018 12:23 PM] hon1nbo The new Dynatorch for Metal will have AD support, finally! [8/30/2018 12:24 PM] hon1nbo if we run a hard wire we'd have to isolate with some FW rules though, but WiFi wouldn't be an issue as long as no one bridges the ethernet on the computer to the wireless interface. The torch controller talks to the system over TCP/IP [8/30/2018 1:28 PM] hon1nbo hmmm, camera system offline again it seems [8/30/2018 6:05 PM] stansimmons2031 F*ing DHCP on PFSense is acting up again. [8/30/2018 6:55 PM] denzuko o.O .. I'll poke around after the scrum [8/31/2018 10:08 AM] hon1nbo also tonight / this weekend may try and get that other camera working in Metal finally [8/31/2018 10:08 AM] hon1nbo is the cable tester in the server room? [8/31/2018 12:06 PM] denzuko there should be a few in there. [8/31/2018 1:54 PM] woody1181 I started to migrate the DHCP last night and found abunch of static entries so it will be done tonight while I am on site [8/31/2018 1:58 PM] denzuko smashing. any way we can also make sure there's no dhcp poisoning or arp attacks? [8/31/2018 2:53 PM] woody1181 I'll See what I can do. [8/31/2018 3:04 PM] denzuko smashing. thanks Woody [8/31/2018 3:05 PM] denzuko that'll get us a lot closer to PCI compliance and kicking off things with killbill [8/31/2018 4:31 PM] hon1nbo Domain Controller can't reliably do ARP poison detection when it also can be ARP spoofed, but IMHO most malicious actions stopped doing that because it's too noisy; best to do it at the Router or Switch level [8/31/2018 4:31 PM] hon1nbo DMS can't have it' [8/31/2018 4:32 PM] hon1nbo s current systems be PCI by any stretch of the imagination; there is too much uncontrolled assets and lack of other security measures without rebuilding a *lot* of stuff [8/31/2018 4:33 PM] hon1nbo the iPads using Square or a Stripe system on the backend are one thing, but as an org that has very poor asset control we really shouldn't be trying to do anything PCI on-site [8/31/2018 5:04 PM] denzuko yeah I know. it's a big push for all of the changes we've been churning through [8/31/2018 5:05 PM] denzuko for instance the docker based systems with cicd deployments, secrets stored in vault instead of a wiki, and locking down the networks. [8/31/2018 5:08 PM] denzuko we've come a long way since I joined up and we're getting better. once we knock out the stability of the DHCP and ad then it's just a matter of enforcement for the central logging, apm and vlans segmentation of wifi, desktops, and the like [8/31/2018 5:09 PM] denzuko then services can be deployed via a private docker registry where images are scanned on builds and nids can be implemented higher up the stack [8/31/2018 9:28 PM] hon1nbo part of the bigger issue is that you'll need a new domain for the PCI stuff or make it all local auth [8/31/2018 9:28 PM] hon1nbo currently the domain auth services are too exposed, and you would need a lot of changes on the DMS workstations and hosts to lock things down enough to prevent pivoting [9/1/2018 3:58 PM] denzuko quite true. think we could hash out a few ideas on how to go about resolving that? [9/1/2018 5:04 PM] stansimmons2031 https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/7547 [9/1/2018 9:28 PM] gothannie ๐Ÿ˜ข I won't be back in town until the 14th at the earliest- I wish I could go to that meeting! [9/1/2018 11:14 PM] stansimmons2031 https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/7548 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’œ [9/3/2018 4:39 PM] hon1nbo @Denzuko.sdf.org yeah I'm down for a chat on it; in the end I don't see a reason why we would want to do anything PCI on our end; it's a lot of trouble for not much benefit. However, I'm all ears for whatever idea you have going. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/3/2018 10:43 PM] denzuko https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/62 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/tracker/issues/62 Observium 15 Released ยท Issue #62 ยท Dallas-Makerspace/tracker Recently version Observium 15 was released by TurnKey Linux. With prlxmonitoring01 offline it's time to upgrade. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fSk5wB3CyJU-6Te3Q15ZPemgcFAbBcumsEzM0QzbbHE/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/19776 [9/3/2018 11:14 PM] denzuko @Woody prlxmonitoring01 restored [9/3/2018 11:14 PM] denzuko @StanSimmons admin password on the wiki [9/3/2018 11:14 PM] woody1181 thank you [9/3/2018 11:14 PM] denzuko closing ticket [9/3/2018 11:15 PM] woody1181 i have the basics of your dev server done. I just need to finalize it. [9/3/2018 11:15 PM] denzuko cool [9/3/2018 11:17 PM] woody1181 finally got dns and dhcp moved off of pfsense. need to document it. switch clean up still continues [9/3/2018 11:18 PM] denzuko What would be the best route for us to setup snmp on all the systems(win, lin, cisco, pfsence, ...) at the space? cicd based ansible task, shell script, or gpio? [9/3/2018 11:19 PM] woody1181 for windows GPO is easiest if it is working. [9/3/2018 11:19 PM] woody1181 I'm signing off for the night. 530 is early [9/3/2018 11:23 PM] denzuko righty oh. lets plan out a method that's repeatable for updating all change items to use syslog and snmp -> prlxmonitoring01 (or a vip pool at the pfsense which forwards to a few instances of observium/tick stack) [9/3/2018 11:33 PM] denzuko hey.. if we setup dynamic dns then have a task to register devices via `POST https://dmsmonitoring:dmsmonitoring2018@prlxmonitoring01/api/devices` with the device's hostname then we can get away from worrying about dhcp issues [9/3/2018 11:33 PM] denzuko or dns issues at that [9/3/2018 11:36 PM] denzuko and in the end the source of truth for inventory becomes the inventory management system instead of some wiki page that no one ever updates [9/4/2018 1:00 AM] denzuko phase one ip's for vlan9 populated in observium / prlxmonitoring01. time to call it a night. hopefully soon here motherboard will be back online [9/4/2018 11:41 AM] denzuko Status for the day. Doing some maintenance today after some devops leadership work. Focus: Gitlab + ldap auth and redeploying swarm nodes (infrastructure only ones not community grid ones) in a 3:5 master/slave config via vagrant, ansible, and gitlab. Stretch goal: deploy community grid stack and hashicorp vault [9/4/2018 12:33 PM] denzuko This site canโ€™t be reached admin-www took too long to respond. Search Google for admin wiki Main Page ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT [9/4/2018 12:33 PM] denzuko admin wiki is down [9/4/2018 12:34 PM] denzuko go figure, just about to document the gitlab server too [9/4/2018 12:36 PM] denzuko denzuko@prlxjump:~$ ping admin-www.dms.local PING admin-www.dms.local (192.168.200.60) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.200.36 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.200.36 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.200.36 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable ^C --- admin-www.dms.local ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4023ms pipe 3 [9/4/2018 12:36 PM] denzuko which vm is that on? [9/4/2018 2:05 PM] denzuko @Woody how are we assigning ip addresses on vlan9 now? [9/4/2018 2:06 PM] woody1181 prvir2 [9/4/2018 2:14 PM] woody1181 dhcp [9/4/2018 2:29 PM] woody1181 @Denzuko.sdf.org checking into it. [9/4/2018 4:11 PM] denzuko MMC Console for administering DMS systems. Yes it lives on \files\committees\infrastructure {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/486644601986351114/domain-and-asset-management.msc?ex=67b8ec1a&is=67b79a9a&hm=31f15b37e63f34d005328672dd3eb707306e6c442f0b5c26a9e0c03c436381ec& [9/4/2018 4:17 PM] denzuko anywho lunch then heading to the space for the priorities meeting. anyone coming? [9/6/2018 6:52 PM] denzuko Tensorflow and community grid is back online: https://tensorflow.communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org/?token=35270f72a91526179ba6a374fef2dff97ae22b0fb460ca76 [9/8/2018 2:49 AM] mizgeek (Moved from General Chatter) @Nate No problem on the wiki subject. Since I have such a background in knowledge bases, it makes sense for me to help. One of my projects for BofA was gathering information on over 100 different software from different companies. This falls under Infrastructure so Iโ€™ll ask if they want a team to deal with it. [9/8/2018 9:35 PM] denzuko not too sure what your wanting to help with @MizGeek ? [9/8/2018 9:39 PM] mizgeek Some were lamenting the organization of the wiki. (In General Chatter and Talk) [9/8/2018 9:42 PM] denzuko as a committee we are going over the operations requirements for our infrastructure and that includes the standards for documentation so if your interested then we'll meet this coming Wednesday at 7pm [9/8/2018 9:44 PM] mizgeek Itโ€™s on my calendar ๐Ÿ™ƒ I have over 25 years of documentation and knowledge bases. Which I probably shouldnโ€™t admit. ๐Ÿ˜ [9/8/2018 9:47 PM] mizgeek Wait... is the meeting this coming Wednesday or the 19th? [9/9/2018 3:17 PM] denzuko the work group checks in on Wednesdays [9/10/2018 5:10 PM] denzuko I think we're still having some issues with the network. Just added in one of the nodes to the cluster and now motherboard is dropping packets. @here @Woody [9/10/2018 5:26 PM] woody1181 what is the IP o f the node you just added> [9/10/2018 5:26 PM] woody1181 ? [9/10/2018 5:51 PM] denzuko 192.168.0.105 [9/10/2018 5:52 PM] denzuko prlxcompute02 is the offender [9/10/2018 5:52 PM] denzuko 01 joined just fine and 03 ... [9/10/2018 6:04 PM] stansimmons2031 !members [9/10/2018 6:04 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 There are currently 1945 members. [9/10/2018 6:14 PM] denzuko https://communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org/#/swarm/visualizer [9/10/2018 6:14 PM] denzuko yep keep seeing both workers go down [9/10/2018 6:14 PM] denzuko we may want to do some packet inspection [9/10/2018 6:35 PM] woody1181 192.168.0.105 is leased to boot2docker.dms.local is that the correct machine? [9/10/2018 6:35 PM] woody1181 and 105 and 106 [9/10/2018 6:35 PM] woody1181 and 107 [9/10/2018 6:39 PM] denzuko ah..ok so guess need to use some sort of way to set the host name on first boot up instead of after [9/10/2018 6:42 PM] woody1181 I think I can try a reservation and see if that will set the name. I will try it with 105. What name is on that one. [9/10/2018 6:47 PM] denzuko prlxcompute01 through 04 [9/10/2018 6:47 PM] denzuko four nodes [9/10/2018 7:14 PM] woody1181 I've assigned 01- .105, 02- .106, 03- 107, 04 - .99 [9/10/2018 7:15 PM] woody1181 I've also given them names in the reservations so we will see how that works out [9/10/2018 7:15 PM] denzuko smashing [9/10/2018 7:15 PM] denzuko thanks @Woody [9/10/2018 7:15 PM] woody1181 I'm going to put static DNS Entries also [9/10/2018 7:15 PM] denzuko :+1: [9/10/2018 7:18 PM] denzuko is there any way to automated that say via ldap, http, or powershell? [9/10/2018 7:18 PM] woody1181 automate which part? [9/10/2018 7:18 PM] woody1181 poershell for sure [9/10/2018 7:19 PM] woody1181 powershell [9/10/2018 7:19 PM] woody1181 that is not the subnet that random stuff will go on. That is the current mgmt subnet [9/10/2018 7:20 PM] denzuko static DHCP registering with hostname and dns entry? [9/10/2018 7:20 PM] denzuko yes but I'm thinking about chaos monkey level architect [9/10/2018 7:21 PM] woody1181 ? [9/10/2018 7:22 PM] woody1181 reading [9/10/2018 7:22 PM] denzuko ie a job in gitlab runs a script that can bring up a new VM for boot2docker at any point (updates, outages, etc.) [9/10/2018 7:24 PM] denzuko if your looking for things to read it's called infrastructure as code [9/10/2018 7:25 PM] woody1181 not really I'm looking for solutions that are easy to implement, easy to train, everyday skill set to use. We are DMS not aws or azure or google. [9/10/2018 7:26 PM] denzuko yes I'm looking at that too plus also looking at what the market trends are. [9/10/2018 7:28 PM] denzuko devops and infrastructure as code is how everyone else is doing things for the past 10 years. and we're going to need to be agnostic since we have both aws and on prem [9/10/2018 7:28 PM] woody1181 i've got to go for now [9/10/2018 7:28 PM] denzuko :+1: [9/10/2018 8:26 PM] stansimmons2031 Ummm... the wifi's are on 192.168.0.101-109 [9/10/2018 8:27 PM] stansimmons2031 Unifi WiFi AP's [9/10/2018 8:41 PM] stansimmons2031 @Woody & @Denzuko.sdf.org [9/10/2018 8:41 PM] woody1181 umm Ok I will move them [9/10/2018 8:41 PM] woody1181 the dockers [9/10/2018 8:42 PM] stansimmons2031 I can move the Unifi's pretty easily too, what would be a good range for 16 of them [9/10/2018 8:43 PM] woody1181 i can move the docker. My OCD didn't like them not being contiguous [9/10/2018 8:43 PM] stansimmons2031 I had the same thought about the Unifi AP's, I have 7 more to add, maybe 8 [9/10/2018 8:44 PM] woody1181 I will start at 192.168.0.50 if available [9/10/2018 8:46 PM] woody1181 101-125 for you ok? [9/10/2018 8:46 PM] woody1181 for AP's [9/10/2018 8:47 PM] stansimmons2031 yep, there are some DHCP addresses already leased in that range [9/10/2018 8:48 PM] stansimmons2031 Can you check the DHCP lease range to make sure it doesn't overlap? [9/10/2018 8:48 PM] woody1181 it's set for 100 -200 currently [9/10/2018 8:49 PM] woody1181 I need to scan that subnet to see where everything lands [9/10/2018 8:49 PM] stansimmons2031 do we have anything in the 200-254 range? [9/10/2018 8:49 PM] stansimmons2031 ... scanning now [9/10/2018 8:50 PM] stansimmons2031 looks like nothing active above 210. [9/10/2018 8:50 PM] woody1181 210, 254, 230 [9/10/2018 8:51 PM] woody1181 254 is killbill and 230 is the Drac on motherboard [9/10/2018 8:51 PM] stansimmons2031 ah, ok neither is responing to ping [9/10/2018 8:53 PM] stansimmons2031 Lets carve out 240-254 for wifi AP's and move killbill... or at this point kill him off since no one has done anything with him for a year [9/10/2018 8:56 PM] woody1181 ok [9/10/2018 9:15 PM] stansimmons2031 I've moved all of the Unifi AP's out of 101-109. [9/10/2018 9:22 PM] woody1181 ok Thank you! [9/10/2018 9:32 PM] woody1181 sure you dont want 231 thru 254. Plannind for 106? [9/10/2018 10:04 PM] denzuko @StanSimmons I'll be added it to the cluster this week [9/10/2018 10:05 PM] denzuko do it should have one is for the nic and one for the idrac [9/10/2018 10:07 PM] denzuko that would give us our prod and test environments plus some compute to spare [9/10/2018 10:12 PM] woody1181 Sorry I am unfamiliar with your project. What are you adding and what are you needing? [9/10/2018 10:14 PM] woody1181 oh not to me. nevermind [9/10/2018 10:22 PM] stansimmons2031 Shouldn't we have a seperate subnet for the idrac's? [9/10/2018 10:23 PM] woody1181 yes and will when we resubnet into more sensible IP Spaces. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/10/2018 10:32 PM] draco_the_drake speaking of unreasonable subnets ... I went to an Ihop to and used their wifi ... they have a seperate address space for the IPs tthey give for the one or two wifi people in the restaurant ... it was 10.0.0.0/8 ... the problem came in when I needed to connect to a VPN that was on a 10. / 24 .. [9/10/2018 10:33 PM] stansimmons2031 lol [9/10/2018 10:35 PM] woody1181 hmmmmm. turn off split tunnelling on your VPN. If you can. also called local lan access. but that's just funny. why didn't they use 1.0.0.0 /1 or 1.0.0.0 /0 if it would take it [9/10/2018 10:36 PM] woody1181 !members [9/10/2018 10:36 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 There are currently 1946 members. [9/10/2018 10:36 PM] woody1181 !weather [9/10/2018 10:36 PM] woody1181 !? [9/10/2018 10:36 PM] woody1181 !help [9/10/2018 10:37 PM] woody1181 ! I Need to sleep now [9/11/2018 4:34 PM] denzuko ok, prod/preprod environemtns setup - https://communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org/#/swarm/visualizer I'll add kill bill as a second manager once I visit the space and diagnose why layer 3 is failing [9/11/2018 4:48 PM] denzuko we now also have password and certificate management - https://communitygrid.dallasmakerspace.org/#/secrets [9/12/2018 1:51 PM] clone1018 We updating talk right now or something? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [9/12/2018 4:13 PM] denzuko nothing was put on the calendar [9/13/2018 12:41 AM] hon1nbo talk is down [9/13/2018 12:41 AM] hon1nbo 504 gateway timeout from Nginx [9/13/2018 12:41 AM] hon1nbo so assuming the backend is down [9/13/2018 12:42 AM] hon1nbo also FYI I got the ball rolling with okta to fix our email aliases with google [9/13/2018 8:50 AM] denzuko smashing. [9/13/2018 8:51 AM] denzuko 504 with talk might mean storage issues with the VM [9/13/2018 9:37 AM] clone1018 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/talk-is-slow-we-doin-anything/42772 [9/14/2018 8:54 PM] hon1nbo I got the proxy addresses in Okta set again for G Suite; it ended up renewing our authentication token with g suite [9/14/2018 8:54 PM] hon1nbo I don't have an alias yet to test with, but it should be there though it might wait for the next directory sync to actually push out [9/14/2018 8:54 PM] hon1nbo IIRC 30 min sync intervals [9/15/2018 12:06 AM] denzuko :+1: [9/15/2018 5:42 AM] hon1nbo still not functional completely, but at least now that the attribute mapping is present again should be workable. Gonna debug it later though [9/18/2018 2:07 PM] denzuko just checking in, was there anything going on tonight? [9/21/2018 5:07 PM] denzuko https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/edit/7850 [9/30/2018 5:10 PM] talkers @Denzuko.sdf.org thanks for getting me access to the website. How do I access? Where is it maintained? Is there documentation? [9/30/2018 5:11 PM] denzuko think I'm missing the context, which site? [10/1/2018 12:33 AM] talkers @Denzuko.sdf.org dallasmakerspace.org [10/1/2018 12:34 AM] talkers I want to change the graphic on the landing page and some of the text. Later we will look at the entire website [10/1/2018 12:35 AM] denzuko its a wordpress site so hit dallasmakerspace.org/login [10/1/2018 12:36 AM] denzuko https://learn.wordpress.com/ {Embed} Krista Stevens https://learn.wordpress.com/ Tutorials and Courses for Beginners โ€“ Learn WordPress.com Visit the post for more. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hUV03jLa_odhj8NZr0RilduOROW_pkWrlBeReNJoM_Q/https/learn.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/artboard-14x8.png [10/1/2018 12:37 AM] talkers Excellent! I haven't used WordPress in a few years, but I have set up and customized a few WP sites. [10/1/2018 12:45 AM] talkers @Denzuko.sdf.org sent you a pm [10/6/2018 9:16 AM] talkers Member drives are down. Aliases not working. [10/7/2018 5:40 PM] clone1018 @Draco You messing with www? [10/7/2018 10:22 PM] draco_the_drake We were trying to remove the old admin wiki .. and got a bit carried away with the commenting out bit .. thanks for fixing it [10/7/2018 11:19 PM] denzuko ๐Ÿ‘ [10/12/2018 5:41 PM] themitch22 @StanSimmons the MultiCAM software is it's on /committee/infrastructure/applications/S4 Installer Only [10/12/2018 5:50 PM] stansimmons2031 Got it, thanks [10/12/2018 5:50 PM] stansimmons2031 Mitch, can you bail out of the jumpserver, we need to reboot it to complete the install? [10/13/2018 2:44 PM] themitch22 Yeah I wasn't in it anymore hope it was restarted [10/13/2018 2:56 PM] draco_the_drake @StanSimmons ... Two questions ... [10/13/2018 2:58 PM] draco_the_drake One .. Can you refund my account for the second "1st Monthly Family Add-on" .. I signed up for a second one because I thought the first one had dropped .... registered 10/13/2018 [10/13/2018 2:58 PM] draco_the_drake Two .. How does one change the password for an addon? [10/13/2018 6:27 PM] stansimmons2031 I've killed off the second "1st Family Addon". MakerManager / My Badges is where you change the family addon info. In the future, please send an email to Accounts@DallasMakerspace.org [10/13/2018 9:55 PM] draco_the_drake okay .. thanks @StanSimmons [10/21/2018 5:43 PM] clone1018 @Draco has the calendar been touched? [10/22/2018 2:15 AM] draco_the_drake What do you mean by touched? [10/22/2018 6:54 PM] denzuko @LukeStrickland what's the url door the changelog? [10/22/2018 6:54 PM] clone1018 ? [10/22/2018 6:54 PM] clone1018 What [10/22/2018 6:56 PM] denzuko https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/commits/master {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/commits/master Dallas-Makerspace/calendar Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/calendar development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [10/22/2018 6:56 PM] clone1018 What's up? [10/22/2018 6:56 PM] denzuko https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/commits/development {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/commits/development Dallas-Makerspace/calendar Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/calendar development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [10/22/2018 6:57 PM] denzuko looks like on dev Draco fixed a few depricated items [10/22/2018 6:58 PM] denzuko was there changes on the server which where out of the repo? [10/22/2018 7:00 PM] clone1018 I know WHMCS was upgraded to PHP7 [10/22/2018 7:00 PM] clone1018 So that would be untracked from the repo [10/22/2018 7:01 PM] denzuko that's outside of the calendar code base [10/22/2018 7:01 PM] clone1018 Same thing I just said ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [10/22/2018 7:01 PM] denzuko lolz [10/22/2018 11:19 PM] draco_the_drake Makermanager 3 was also upgraded to 7.2 [10/22/2018 11:20 PM] draco_the_drake We are going to upgrade the talk server next on Wednesday evening, Thursday Morning ... or at least thats the plan [10/22/2018 11:21 PM] draco_the_drake The Dev Branch of calendar is under http://calendar-dev.dallasmakerspace.org ... [10/22/2018 11:22 PM] draco_the_drake There are bugs I am working on in it [10/22/2018 11:22 PM] draco_the_drake The header is red to differentiate it from production [10/22/2018 11:23 PM] draco_the_drake They are separate databases [10/22/2018 11:33 PM] draco_the_drake I have not made any changes to calendar production [10/23/2018 6:45 AM] clone1018 Nice! That's awesome [10/24/2018 10:55 PM] hon1nbo https://www.freeipa.org/page/Active_Directory_trust_setup {Embed} https://www.freeipa.org/page/Active_Directory_trust_setup Active Directory trust setup [12/7/2018 5:46 AM] clone1018 talk is down [12/7/2018 5:46 AM] clone1018 hopefully no one is working on it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [12/7/2018 5:49 AM] clone1018 docker is up, instance is up [12/7/2018 5:49 AM] clone1018 load avg 0 [12/7/2018 5:54 AM] clone1018 `./launcher stop app` did not work [12/7/2018 6:05 AM] jestersforge7494 XD [12/7/2018 10:06 AM] clone1018 Guess talk is down again? [12/7/2018 10:07 AM] andrew5152 looks like... [12/7/2018 10:10 AM] clone1018 I guess it's on me [12/7/2018 10:11 AM] clone1018 Can't login to aws... [12/7/2018 10:11 AM] andrew5152 me neither [12/7/2018 10:12 AM] clone1018 Can you normally login to aws? [12/7/2018 10:12 AM] andrew5152 (kidding! I have no access nor login info) [12/7/2018 10:12 AM] clone1018 oh ok ๐Ÿ˜› [12/7/2018 10:14 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/520634283082121217/unknown.png?ex=67b94f36&is=67b7fdb6&hm=9a0eac65158b620d0cd3672b4a552ebf751f5f36622dbbe41302e3f343beeb00& [12/7/2018 10:16 AM] clone1018 Redis error again [12/7/2018 10:23 AM] clone1018 Going to try "rebuilding" [12/7/2018 10:43 AM] clone1018 Upgrading the instance [12/7/2018 10:48 AM] furious_jorge You can just say. "Performing magic" [12/7/2018 10:49 AM] clone1018 "Performing Magic" [12/7/2018 10:50 AM] furious_jorge Better [12/7/2018 10:56 AM] clone1018 Rebuild apparently does a full upgrade [12/7/2018 10:57 AM] furious_jorge May as well since its offline anyway no? [12/7/2018 11:00 AM] clone1018 Yeah [12/7/2018 11:07 AM] clone1018 back up?? [12/7/2018 11:22 AM] clone1018 cc @Draco [12/7/2018 11:33 AM] yashsedai Omg [12/7/2018 11:33 AM] yashsedai Breaking all the forums! [12/7/2018 11:33 AM] yashsedai Sky is falling! [12/7/2018 11:33 AM] clone1018 Draco is just confusing me... [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] yashsedai Aye [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] clone1018 If we had a DoS that's fine, but the logs wont help [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] clone1018 We use CloudFlare... So everything is proxied... [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] yashsedai I'm still confused on the version upgrade [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] clone1018 That was accidental [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] yashsedai Ah, as long as it was you it's all good [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] clone1018 `rebuild` apparently reinstalls everything to newest [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] yashsedai Hehe [12/7/2018 11:34 AM] clone1018 I thought it reinit'd the docker image [12/7/2018 11:35 AM] yashsedai Is ok, their man pages suck [12/7/2018 11:35 AM] yashsedai Looks like we have to reinit email [12/7/2018 11:35 AM] clone1018 I turned it off [12/7/2018 11:35 AM] clone1018 It slowly crashes the server [12/7/2018 11:35 AM] yashsedai I appreciate you being the man! [12/7/2018 11:36 AM] yashsedai Server needs a cron job to reboot nightly [12/7/2018 11:36 AM] yashsedai Will fix the slow email death [12/7/2018 11:36 AM] clone1018 I'm going to limit all traffic to only from CloudFlare i think [12/7/2018 11:36 AM] clone1018 if I find out we're being DoS'd [12/7/2018 11:38 AM] clone1018 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/520655351180165120/unknown.png?ex=67b962d5&is=67b81155&hm=d4562012e2d55444078efbcb7b7b7dd2454dd6ebd9c97ca953d75ac82d58b2cb& [12/7/2018 11:39 AM] clone1018 I'd like to resize the instance, it's constantly hitting the ram limit and pruning threads [12/7/2018 11:43 AM] yashsedai If we are hitting the ram limit then it makes sense [12/7/2018 11:43 AM] clone1018 Resizing per approval from stan [12/7/2018 11:43 AM] clone1018 Yeah and there's no swap [12/7/2018 11:44 AM] yashsedai :( [12/7/2018 11:44 AM] yashsedai No swap is not good [12/7/2018 11:45 AM] clone1018 discourse is terribly inefficient software [12/7/2018 11:45 AM] clone1018 very mad at it [12/7/2018 11:46 AM] yashsedai I've always love vbulletin [12/7/2018 11:46 AM] clone1018 Mannnn [12/7/2018 11:46 AM] clone1018 that takes me back [12/7/2018 11:46 AM] yashsedai Was never free but worked good and had a huge base [12/7/2018 11:46 AM] furious_jorge Mr fancy with vbulletin. I cut my teeth on phpbb [12/7/2018 11:47 AM] yashsedai Haha I did as well [12/7/2018 11:47 AM] yashsedai Then I traded up! [12/7/2018 11:47 AM] furious_jorge Vbulletin template pages were a dream. So great [12/7/2018 11:48 AM] yashsedai So much nice functionality built in too [12/7/2018 11:49 AM] yashsedai Sky is falling again, Luke broke the forums [12/7/2018 11:50 AM] yashsedai Let's get out the pitchforks and tiki torches [12/7/2018 11:51 AM] clone1018 54.211.14.53 is talk's new permanent IP [12/7/2018 11:52 AM] furious_jorge This is why I'm here [12/7/2018 11:52 AM] furious_jorge Inside info [12/7/2018 11:53 AM] yashsedai Keys up the low orbit in cannon [12/7/2018 11:53 AM] draco_the_drake Here are the logs ...... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/520659181934608418/error.log.1.zip?ex=67b96666&is=67b814e6&hm=5be44027b8b33a8e49c4acd7d25a3c44738334743e18cd1542115298bb7d7377& [12/7/2018 11:53 AM] yashsedai Wtf phone [12/7/2018 11:53 AM] draco_the_drake This shows a Ddos [12/7/2018 11:54 AM] yashsedai *Keys up Low Orbit Ion Cannon* [12/7/2018 11:54 AM] furious_jorge Lol [12/7/2018 11:55 AM] furious_jorge Luke you ready for the onslaught of "why did you uprgade" questions?! [12/7/2018 11:55 AM] clone1018 Can I respond with middle finger? [12/7/2018 11:55 AM] clone1018 Or no [12/7/2018 11:55 AM] clone1018 We can downgrade [12/7/2018 11:55 AM] clone1018 I did take a backup first ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [12/7/2018 11:56 AM] clone1018 Talk is back up [12/7/2018 11:56 AM] draco_the_drake We were getting flooded from many IP addresses [12/7/2018 11:56 AM] draco_the_drake I don't think it was going through cloudflare [12/7/2018 11:56 AM] clone1018 Yes, check bgp.he.net [12/7/2018 11:57 AM] clone1018 Those IPs point to cloudflare [12/7/2018 11:57 AM] clone1018 So we'll need to investigate some settings there [12/7/2018 11:57 AM] draco_the_drake Well.. last night it was enough to take the server offline [12/7/2018 11:57 AM] clone1018 Yeah that's crazy [12/7/2018 11:58 AM] draco_the_drake why would someone be flooding ... 2018/12/07 04:34:21 [error] 55#55: *24415693 limiting requests, excess: 12.508 by zone "flood", client: 162.158.186.71, server: _, request: "GET /notifications?recent=true&limit=11&_=1544133180048 HTTP/1.1", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/2018-advent-of-code/47147/10" [12/7/2018 11:58 AM] draco_the_drake It is to your post [12/7/2018 11:58 AM] clone1018 Never seen that error [12/7/2018 11:58 AM] clone1018 I didnt realize we had ratelimiting on in nginx [12/7/2018 11:59 AM] clone1018 @yashsedai seemed to have fixed performance... [12/7/2018 11:59 AM] clone1018 Resizing that is [12/7/2018 11:59 AM] clone1018 We now have surplus ram [12/7/2018 11:59 AM] clone1018 Before it was constantly killing threads [12/7/2018 12:00 PM] draco_the_drake But why would we be getting so many requests with the referrer of one URL [12/7/2018 12:00 PM] draco_the_drake Someone was doing something [12/7/2018 12:01 PM] clone1018 Might reach out to CloudFlare, see if they can help a lowly nonprofit [12/7/2018 12:01 PM] yashsedai That ip belongs to cloudflare [12/7/2018 12:01 PM] draco_the_drake Yes [12/7/2018 12:01 PM] draco_the_drake There are many IPs [12/7/2018 12:01 PM] draco_the_drake they all might be cloudflare [12/7/2018 12:01 PM] draco_the_drake I don't know [12/7/2018 12:02 PM] furious_jorge Our own host DOSed us??? Jk. I'll be over in the corner [12/7/2018 12:02 PM] draco_the_drake Download the logs and see if you can make any sense of it [12/7/2018 12:02 PM] yashsedai Ok [12/7/2018 12:02 PM] clone1018 Nah they're just passing all traffic through [12/7/2018 12:02 PM] yashsedai Sed awk time [12/7/2018 12:04 PM] clone1018 ``` cat error.log.1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr 33893 162.158.186.173 30053 162.158.186.11 19087 108.162.238.112 17435 108.162.237.99 15994 162.158.186.71 14717 162.158.186.191 14621 162.158.186.95 13629 162.158.187.36 12030 162.158.186.119 6877 108.162.238.100 82 162.158.186.149 27 162.158.142.69 4 172.68.65.125 2 162.158.78.213 ``` [12/7/2018 12:04 PM] clone1018 brb lunch [12/7/2018 12:05 PM] yashsedai All cloudlfare [12/7/2018 12:06 PM] draco_the_drake I wonder what limits they place on requests before they start limiting them [12/7/2018 12:06 PM] draco_the_drake I thought that was one of the reasons we had it [12/7/2018 12:06 PM] draco_the_drake perhaps there is a way to set them [12/7/2018 12:06 PM] yashsedai What is the time frame for that error log [12/7/2018 12:06 PM] yashsedai One day? [12/7/2018 12:06 PM] draco_the_drake yes [12/7/2018 12:07 PM] draco_the_drake I have the rest of the logs as well [12/7/2018 12:07 PM] yashsedai How does it compare to previous days? [12/7/2018 12:08 PM] draco_the_drake {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/520662952475492352/error.log.2.zip?ex=67b969e9&is=67b81869&hm=dafd49dace93935de17c28e56fc97c0c950a09ecd6d3f6f9c68428cbdf7e1644& [12/7/2018 12:08 PM] draco_the_drake There is the previous day ... I believe ... [12/7/2018 12:11 PM] draco_the_drake Before that .... just one error .... ``` 2018/12/04 13:59:27 [error] 54#54: *23267026 open() "/var/www/discourse/public/assets/components/gallery/css/mgr.css" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.33.88, server: _, request: "GET /assets/components/gallery/css/mgr.css HTTP/1.1", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "http://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/assets/components/gallery/css/mgr.css" ``` [12/7/2018 12:12 PM] draco_the_drake the day before that .. ``` 2018/12/03 19:04:43 [error] 55#55: *22964233 limiting requests, excess: 12.496 by zone "flood", client: 172.69.62.69, server: _, request: "GET /posts/292707?_=1543847627393 HTTP/1.1", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/past-due-receipts-23-383-unaccounted-expenses/47009/202" 2018/12/03 19:10:34 [error] 55#55: *22967125 upstream prematurely closed connection while reading response header from upstream, client: 172.69.33.148, server: _, request: "GET /onebox?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amsat.org%2Ffox-1cliff-launch-live-blog%2F&refresh=false&user_id=94 HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3000/onebox?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amsat.org%2Ffox-1cliff-launch-live-blog%2F&refresh=false&user_id=94", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/c/interest-groups/amateur-radio" 2018/12/03 22:33:23 [error] 55#55: *23047059 upstream prematurely closed connection while reading response header from upstream, client: 162.158.79.184, server: _, request: "GET /onebox?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amsat.org%2Ffox-1cliff-launch-your-help-is-needed%2F&refresh=false&user_id=3398 HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3000/onebox?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amsat.org%2Ffox-1cliff-launch-your-help-is-needed%2F&refresh=false&user_id=3398", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/fox-1cliff-in-orbit/47258" 2018/12/04 06:00:19 [error] 54#54: *23184203 upstream prematurely closed connection while reading response header from upstream, client: 162.158.59.99, server: _, request: "GET /onebox?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqdl.recycledknockers.com%2Fqdl%2F&refresh=false&user_id=655 HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3000/onebox?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqdl.recycledknockers.com%2Fqdl%2F&refresh=false&user_id=655", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/site-trouble/47264/3" ``` [12/7/2018 12:12 PM] draco_the_drake that is in total for that day [12/7/2018 12:12 PM] draco_the_drake so the floods are unusual [12/7/2018 12:13 PM] draco_the_drake It could be a misbehaving bot? [12/7/2018 12:28 PM] aceat64 that GET request wasn't to Luke's post, it was "from" it [12/7/2018 12:28 PM] aceat64 could be a bug with the client side code [12/7/2018 12:28 PM] aceat64 could be with the spoilers code? [12/7/2018 12:32 PM] draco_the_drake You are correct @aceat64 ... the referrer was all pointing to Lukes post [12/7/2018 12:33 PM] aceat64 I believe /notifications is part of the API that's used by the client-side javascript [12/7/2018 12:33 PM] aceat64 that URL is a bit odd though, specifically the query string [12/7/2018 12:33 PM] aceat64 this: GET /notifications?recent=true&limit=11&=1544133180048 [12/7/2018 12:33 PM] aceat64 where's the variable name for the last part? [12/7/2018 12:33 PM] aceat64 copy/paste error is that exactly as it appears in the log? [12/7/2018 12:34 PM] draco_the_drake The last part is generally to keep from caches happening [12/7/2018 12:34 PM] draco_the_drake It is just a unique number [12/7/2018 12:34 PM] aceat64 weird, I've never seen it done without a variable name, but I haven't had to deal with front-end in a long time [12/7/2018 12:36 PM] aceat64 could have someone `tail -f` the log file and open that thread again [12/7/2018 12:36 PM] aceat64 at least in my browser I'm not making multiple requests to`/notifications` though [12/7/2018 12:37 PM] draco_the_drake The code was upgraded and is likely different code now .... [12/7/2018 12:37 PM] aceat64 yeah, likely that resolved it then [12/7/2018 12:37 PM] aceat64 currently it only seems to call that endpoint if I click on my profile picture [12/7/2018 12:37 PM] draco_the_drake I would think that we would have the issue quite often if it was a bug ... [12/7/2018 12:38 PM] draco_the_drake But I'm not seeing it [12/7/2018 12:38 PM] aceat64 interesting, the query string variable name for that cache busting is _ (underscore) when I make the request [12/7/2018 12:38 PM] aceat64 probably discord stripped it out in the first copy/paste [12/7/2018 12:39 PM] aceat64 anyway, seems like it's all good now I guess [12/7/2018 12:40 PM] draco_the_drake We need to setup some sort of log monitoring for our servers ... I believe Dwight set something up locally called observium but we may be upgrading that to another package and plug Talk into it [12/7/2018 12:40 PM] aceat64 I spoke too soon [12/7/2018 12:40 PM] aceat64 getting an error when trying to look at a profile [12/7/2018 12:41 PM] aceat64 e.g. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/u/mblatz {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/u/mblatz mblatz GOD said... โˆ‡ โ‹… D = ฯ โˆ‡ โ‹… B = 0 โˆ‡ x E = - โˆ‚B/โˆ‚t โˆ‡ x H = โˆ‚D/โˆ‚t + j ...and then there was LIGHT!!! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/J1ozBRlK2uyvi3g3q8CQ6RfseGHLUx2td00WLgEzARg/http/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/user_avatar/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/mblatz/45/1674_1.png [12/7/2018 12:41 PM] aceat64 just getting constant spinner/loading [12/7/2018 12:42 PM] aceat64 ahh finally timed out: :( Server Error while trying to load /u/mblatz/summary.json Error code: 502 error [12/7/2018 12:42 PM] draco_the_drake Yup .. looks like a bug. I'm not surprised as it was an unexpected upgrade [12/7/2018 12:42 PM] draco_the_drake It most likely is misconfiguration and it didn't upgrade properly [12/7/2018 12:42 PM] aceat64 seems to only be the summary page, `/activity` works [12/7/2018 12:43 PM] aceat64 can even view my own summary, maybe related to the green dot plugin or some other plugin [12/7/2018 12:44 PM] draco_the_drake My idea when we upgraded was to install a fresh version and then import the data. Then install the plugins that we want. I know one of the plugins was half installed [12/7/2018 12:44 PM] draco_the_drake It said it was installed but it wasn't working [12/7/2018 12:45 PM] aceat64 probably retort, that one has been broken for a long time [12/7/2018 12:45 PM] draco_the_drake yup [12/7/2018 1:01 PM] draco_the_drake We are now getting a whole lot of messages such as this with different urls in the error logs ``` 2018/12/07 18:31:58 [error] 61#61: *14574 upstream timed out (110: Connection timed out) while reading response header from upstream, client: 173.245.52.69, server: _, request: "POST /topics/timings HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3000/topics/timings", host: "talk.dallasmakerspace.org", referrer: "https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/" ``` [12/7/2018 1:11 PM] draco_the_drake When I attempt to load a profile summary .. I get this in the unicorn logs .. ``` D, [2018-12-07T19:09:48.747779 #71] DEBUG -- : waiting 16.0s after suspend/hibernation I, [2018-12-07T19:09:49.895993 #6650] INFO -- : worker=3 ready E, [2018-12-07T19:10:14.773319 #71] ERROR -- : worker=2 PID:5565 timeout (31s > 30s), killing ``` [12/7/2018 1:18 PM] draco_the_drake We seem to be getting alot of these ``` Failed to optimize image: unknown reason location: /tmp/gravatar20181207-192-1eikt4v.png error_message: ImageOptim::TimeoutExceeded ``` [12/7/2018 1:21 PM] clone1018 I'm back now [12/7/2018 1:21 PM] draco_the_drake wb [12/7/2018 2:23 PM] clone1018 Not liking this [12/7/2018 2:23 PM] clone1018 I have no idea what's causing the slowdown [12/7/2018 2:28 PM] clone1018 User profiles do not load even with ALL plugins disabled [12/7/2018 2:32 PM] draco_the_drake We could spin up a new VM and install a fresh instance and then import the data over [12/7/2018 2:32 PM] draco_the_drake and install the plugins [12/7/2018 2:32 PM] draco_the_drake that was the original plan on upgrading [12/7/2018 2:40 PM] clone1018 How do you import the data? Is that built in? [12/7/2018 2:41 PM] clone1018 It's rare to find software that supports backups and restores [12/7/2018 2:42 PM] clone1018 66GB [12/7/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake There is a backup and restore function [12/7/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake in the admin section [12/7/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake also .... [12/7/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake ``` Started GET "/latest.json?order=default&_=1544209660177" for 162.158.78.246 at 2018-12-07 20:46:31 +0000 Processing by ListController#latest as JSON Parameters: {"order"=>"default", "_"=>"1544209660177"} Rendering text template Rendered text template (0.0ms) Rendering text template Rendered text template (0.0ms) Rendering text template Rendered text template (0.0ms) Completed 200 OK in 1278ms (Views: 0.1ms | ActiveRecord: 1043.5ms) ``` [12/7/2018 2:49 PM] draco_the_drake 1.2 seconds for a latest list of topics? [12/7/2018 2:50 PM] draco_the_drake that does seem excessively slow [12/7/2018 2:50 PM] draco_the_drake It looks like the Database is slow [12/7/2018 2:50 PM] draco_the_drake ActiveRecord is taking up 1 second [12/7/2018 2:52 PM] clone1018 db is 9GB [12/7/2018 2:52 PM] clone1018 which isnt too bad [12/7/2018 2:52 PM] draco_the_drake Also .. one of the top processes is Imagemagick convert ``` 18679 discour+ 20 0 311668 186236 7356 R 66.7 2.3 0:02.00 convert ``` [12/7/2018 2:53 PM] draco_the_drake 66.7% [12/7/2018 2:53 PM] draco_the_drake of cpu [12/7/2018 2:53 PM] clone1018 max image is 409kb [12/7/2018 2:54 PM] clone1018 so thats impossible to even see that [12/7/2018 2:54 PM] clone1018 it should be amazingly quick [12/7/2018 2:55 PM] clone1018 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dallas-makerspace-show-tell-december-2018/47201/30?u=lukestrickland {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dallas-makerspace-show-tell-december-2018/47201/30?u=lukestrickland Dallas Makerspace Show & Tell - December 2018 Havenโ€™t been to the Space much lately. Building this stitch & glue kayak at home with a couple of friends. More to come! These pics are scarfing the plywood blanks, bonding them together. Finally, the finished panels ready to start stitching. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CGrn-4I7A97PsGfKwVGHX2gFEt_dZPa6HUhc4RVN-vE/http/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/user_avatar/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/rovingtow/200/15192_1.png [12/7/2018 2:55 PM] clone1018 Those were the 3 photos [12/7/2018 2:55 PM] draco_the_drake from the tmp space .. ``` -rw------- 1 discourse www-data 597165 Dec 7 20:54 discourse-download20181207-15746-1wax8e6.jpeg -rw------- 1 discourse www-data 1070515 Dec 7 20:54 discourse-download20181207-15746-gdvc8d.jpeg -rw------- 1 discourse www-data 1080099 Dec 7 20:54 discourse-download20181207-15746-k715gp.png -rw------- 1 discourse www-data 220124 Dec 7 20:55 discourse-thumbnail20181207-15746-17q67ml20181207-15746-1p70wf1.png -rw------- 1 discourse www-data 220124 Dec 7 20:55 discourse-thumbnail20181207-15746-17q67ml.png ``` [12/7/2018 2:57 PM] draco_the_drake ``` 27838 discour+ 20 0 221556 92428 7356 R 93.3 1.1 0:00.59 convert ``` [12/7/2018 2:57 PM] draco_the_drake 93.3% [12/7/2018 2:58 PM] clone1018 those are all less than 1mb [12/7/2018 2:58 PM] draco_the_drake ``` convert jpeg:/var/www/discourse/tmp/download_cache/5e6a3c34de47bbb9804124774a6c3ca1817fdc32.jpeg[0] -auto-orient -gravity center -background transparent -thumbnail 999x750^ -extent 999x750 -interpolate catrom -unsharp 2x0.5+0.7+0 -interlace none -quality 98 -profile /var/www/discourse/vendor/data/RT_sRGB.icm jpeg:/tmp/discourse-thumbnail20181207-15746-fqcpth.jpeg ``` [12/7/2018 2:59 PM] draco_the_drake I wonder if it is just converting all the images , one by one as part of the upgrade? [12/7/2018 3:02 PM] draco_the_drake there are 500 files in that folder totalling 436M [12/7/2018 3:10 PM] clone1018 @Draco the number of images is only going up [12/7/2018 3:11 PM] clone1018 44k jobs in queue... [12/7/2018 3:11 PM] clone1018 what the fuck [12/7/2018 3:13 PM] clone1018 45k [12/7/2018 3:13 PM] clone1018 Is it going through every post? [12/7/2018 3:14 PM] clone1018 Looks like it's "rebaking posts" [12/7/2018 3:20 PM] clone1018 50k queued [12/7/2018 3:23 PM] clone1018 52k [12/7/2018 3:23 PM] draco_the_drake Yup I bet it is pulling them from s3 and converting them and then uploading them back. ... exactly rebaking [12/7/2018 3:26 PM] clone1018 51k [12/7/2018 3:26 PM] clone1018 going down [12/7/2018 3:36 PM] clone1018 56 going up [12/8/2018 12:29 PM] yashsedai lukeeeeee [12/8/2018 2:00 PM] draco_the_drake I found the discourse pull request for the full quote removal https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/6729 {Embed} https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/6729 FEATURE: Remove full quotes of direct replies. by nbianca ยท Pull ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/TmUXvbpzOU-BO-sujrj2FX4Hy7mQD-JyaLi0gyBZVKI/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/23153890 [12/8/2018 2:01 PM] draco_the_drake Looks like it was a very recent change [12/8/2018 2:12 PM] clone1018 @Draco what do you and Stan want me to do? [12/8/2018 2:13 PM] clone1018 Its unacceptable that discourse forces you into the fucking master branch [12/8/2018 2:21 PM] clone1018 Okay it was 155k this morning 124k now [12/8/2018 2:21 PM] clone1018 so it is working [12/8/2018 2:28 PM] draco_the_drake I'm thinking that either we leave it and allow it to just process everything. Or we install a fresh docker container where you can specify a version and then restore a backup database from a couple of days ago, loosing the new data. One other thing to think about is if this is the future of discourse with this feature, then we would have to modify it later to upgrade. I don't think we want to do that. It might be best to let it finish recooking everything. It would be good to download a backup of the old data while it still exists from S3. We are having a Infrastructure committee meeting on Wednesday https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/8922 perhaps you would like to phone in? [12/8/2018 2:30 PM] clone1018 Sure, I can [12/8/2018 2:30 PM] clone1018 I don't mind letting it finish, I think it will end up being faster from the looks of us [12/8/2018 2:30 PM] clone1018 and this rips the update bandaid straight off [12/8/2018 2:32 PM] draco_the_drake yup ... people going to bitch with any change ... The main issue right now, is the admin panel has errors but they may go away once it finishes processing like the profile problem went away .... we upgraded from a really old version [12/8/2018 2:38 PM] clone1018 The quickest way around the admin panel issue for now is to navigate away and then refresh to get the new URL [12/8/2018 2:38 PM] clone1018 I hope that ends up resolving itself {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ [12/8/2018 4:14 PM] clone1018 118k [12/8/2018 5:31 PM] clone1018 22 hours of pain remaining [12/8/2018 5:43 PM] andrew5152 ah, good to have an estimate. This is really annoying. ๐Ÿ˜„ It's good to have a guess of how much longer it's going to continue... [12/8/2018 7:38 PM] clone1018 what unacceptable software [12/8/2018 7:38 PM] clone1018 90k [12/8/2018 7:38 PM] clone1018 18 hours! [12/8/2018 7:41 PM] yashsedai LUKE BORKED IT {Reactions} ๐Ÿ† [12/8/2018 7:41 PM] draco_the_drake If we had upgraded sooner, we wouldn't be going through this [12/8/2018 7:41 PM] yashsedai I'm pretty sure we would have still had to deal with this [12/8/2018 7:45 PM] draco_the_drake It is doing much more than just one thing ... it is resizing all the images, checking various things in the messages, lots of checks and processes. All of these processes where added over time. We would be going through a much shorter version, each successive upgrade. ... It looks we upgraded about 53 versions [12/8/2018 7:47 PM] clone1018 So I guess we have pain now or later? [12/8/2018 7:48 PM] draco_the_drake We have a little pain spread out over time .. or a whole lot of pain at once all added up [12/8/2018 7:48 PM] clone1018 we should probably schedule an update a month or something [12/8/2018 7:48 PM] clone1018 Ideally discourse will start doing stable releases? [12/8/2018 7:49 PM] draco_the_drake *nods* [12/8/2018 7:50 PM] draco_the_drake I'm planning on writing some automatic issue creation for regular scheduled tasks and reminders ... one of them could be to check for updates, gather them and create an issue for infrastructure with a list [12/8/2018 7:50 PM] draco_the_drake once a month [12/8/2018 8:17 PM] andrew5152 On the other hand, none of these things are improvements as far as I can tell, which is what leads to people not bothering for...fitythree or so releases... But it does seem like the first and 15th, say, of every month being "upgrade fortnight" would be a less painful swim. [12/8/2018 8:21 PM] clone1018 85k [12/8/2018 8:46 PM] draco_the_drake @A. Spencer(jast) .... we just updated with 1000s of new features and bug fixes [12/8/2018 9:43 PM] andrew5152 lovely, but it did nothing positive for the user experience, is what I'm saying. When new features and "bug fixes" are not noticed (or worse, noticed negatively) by the end users, it sort of discourages admins from wanting to adopt them... we like upgrades that do things we need/want/like. Not having to "upgrade" despite worsening the experience. [12/8/2018 9:49 PM] clone1018 annoyed every time I have to RDP into dms to get into the admin wiki ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [12/8/2018 10:02 PM] draco_the_drake You can setup a SSH port forward script ... connects via SSH with key then opens a browser [12/8/2018 10:03 PM] draco_the_drake I have scripts that download databases and open terminals to AWS through that method [12/8/2018 10:03 PM] draco_the_drake download and update local databases [12/8/2018 10:28 PM] draco_the_drake Create a /etc/hosts entry [12/8/2018 10:28 PM] draco_the_drake ``` 127.0.0.1 admin-www.dms.local ``` [12/8/2018 10:29 PM] draco_the_drake Put your public key in the .ssh/authorized_keys on the linux jump server .. test ssh [12/8/2018 10:29 PM] draco_the_drake then you can modify this script to work [12/8/2018 10:29 PM] draco_the_drake ```bash #!/bin/bash PROXY_SSH_HOST='physical.dallasmakerspace.org' PROXY_SSH_PORT=2222 PROXY_SSH_USER='draco' LOCAL_SSH_HOST='127.0.0.1' LOCAL_SSH_PORT=8345 REMOTE_SSH_HOST='admin-www.dms.local' REMOTE_SSH_PORT=80 echo "Connecting to proxy ..." ssh -C $PROXY_SSH_USER@$PROXY_SSH_HOST -p $PROXY_SSH_PORT -N -L $LOCAL_SSH_HOST:$LOCAL_SSH_PORT:$REMOTE_SSH_HOST:$REMOTE_SSH_PORT & while [[ -z "$nc_output" ]]; do read -r nc_output < <(nc -v -d $LOCAL_SSH_HOST $LOCAL_SSH_PORT 2>&1) sleep 2 done /c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Google/Chrome/Application/chrome.exe http://$REMOTE_SSH_HOST:$LOCAL_SSH_PORT/ echo Press enter to exit proxy .... read kill % ``` [12/8/2018 10:35 PM] draco_the_drake Or you can setup a VPN connection to the DMS network ... https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Vpn {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Vpn Vpn [12/8/2018 11:01 PM] yashsedai So noticed another bug [12/8/2018 11:02 PM] yashsedai I created some messages to team infra metal shop. Etc. They never move to the message inbox. Only way to see replies is to look in sent [12/8/2018 11:05 PM] yashsedai Gonna guess this may be due to the job backlog [12/8/2018 11:10 PM] draco_the_drake I think they only move to inbox when someone replys [12/8/2018 11:11 PM] draco_the_drake That is the same with the old system [12/9/2018 12:29 AM] yashsedai They both had multiple replies [12/9/2018 6:36 AM] clone1018 okay [12/9/2018 6:36 AM] clone1018 The queue is all caught up [12/9/2018 6:56 AM] clone1018 I've opened an issue for the admin not loading https://meta.discourse.org/t/502-error-on-admin-dashboard-general-json/103828 {Embed} https://meta.discourse.org/t/502-error-on-admin-dashboard-general-json/103828 502 error on /admin/dashboard/general.json Hey folks, In addition to the problems at How to Modify or disable the actions of the System Bot and Quotes weโ€™re also having issues loading our admin dashboard. The steps to reproduce are to login as an administrator, navigate to /admin, wait for loading indicator to go ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pNd3I5ws1n96s0yjwjYbfodfD6EzeeiiErUm-pyPi_Y/https/discourse-meta.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/c/ac166452701ce353fa6c8865e99879e8cacfb960.png [12/9/2018 7:24 AM] clone1018 The user profiles started loading [12/9/2018 7:47 AM] clone1018 Tried bumping all topics in the last 3 days back to the top [12/9/2018 7:47 AM] clone1018 No bueno..... [12/9/2018 8:44 AM] draco_the_drake I wonder if we should log some DB queries and see if there is any issues there [12/9/2018 8:44 AM] draco_the_drake There might also be a way to kick up the debug level [12/9/2018 8:48 AM] draco_the_drake also they say that they are in beta .... why would they accept new features? [12/9/2018 8:48 AM] draco_the_drake It should only be bug fixes [12/9/2018 9:16 AM] clone1018 Continuous release vs versioned release I guess [12/13/2018 6:59 PM] clone1018 > and she mentioned that Dallas uses an open source project called Maker Manager to keep track of member data. > After a fairly basic search I saw that MM3 uses PHP... I was about to give up when I saw meeting notes on the dallas makerspace site talking about testing MM4. We'd be happy to give it a try as well as help contribute documentation and code to this project if that would be useful. It's not in PHP anymore, right? ๐Ÿ˜„ [12/13/2018 6:59 PM] clone1018 ouch [12/19/2018 8:25 PM] hon1nbo I noticed we don't appear to have a camera that can see the member exchange shelf [12/20/2018 9:41 AM] andrew5152 anyone lurking herezabout that works with (DMS's) Wordpress/Blog/etc.? [12/27/2018 12:57 PM] aceat64 I think PR handles that for the most part, other than upgrades and such [12/27/2018 10:16 PM] andrew5152 mhm. was looking for someone to assist with what I presume were out of space issues... it got looked into eventually... No idea where "we" are on it. Thank you for getting back to me! [1/12/2019 3:57 PM] andrew5152 So I guess we turned on MFA on gsuite? That's moderately annoying... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/533766504270004246/unknown.png?ex=67b8f6cb&is=67b7a54b&hm=5f28321f07e158b07b490209007234583e59998c9c255217bc79fe6e94cfe7c1& [1/12/2019 3:58 PM] andrew5152 But even better, clicking setup doesn't let you set it up... [1/14/2019 10:16 AM] hon1nbo yeah it's only for admins [1/14/2019 10:17 AM] hon1nbo clicking setup should just pass you through [1/14/2019 10:17 AM] hon1nbo Okta apparently now prompts that even for non-2fa users, but it's not actually required. [2/14/2019 7:03 PM] redbeardedpirate The board removed Kris from admin on Talk. Why is she suddenly an admin? [2/14/2019 7:07 PM] redbeardedpirate @StanSimmons can you shed some light on this? [2/14/2019 8:10 PM] stansimmons2031 She is not an admin on talk [2/14/2019 8:18 PM] andrew5152 @lukeiamyourfather but she is "trust level 4", making the account "near admin", and capable of posting, locking the thread, etc. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/badges/4/leader apparently there are about 15 or so such accounts (some of which are duplicates for individuals). I don't remember and can't find that post from the (fairly) past wherein "Leaders" were enumerated. I think it was after Stephenie made an unpopular decision with a thread that this all came out. Kris may or may not have been "Leader" at that time... {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/badges/4/leader Leader badge on Dallas Makerspace Talk This badge is granted when you reach trust level 4. Youโ€™re a leader in this community as selected by staff, and you set a positive example for the rest of the community in your actions and words here. You have the ability to edit all posts, take common topic moderator actio... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hsgsESK4Ux8CBbgyoqQeiukGR56faBhWk7e7YKa43LM/http/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [2/15/2019 12:07 AM] stephenie. It was unpopular. Bad choice on my part. Naive. Wouldn't do it again. Apologized. [2/15/2019 12:08 AM] stephenie. I should be a Level 3 now [2/15/2019 12:30 AM] jottwell5334 I demand level 7 access now. [2/15/2019 12:31 AM] jottwell5334 Or I dont think I care who has what access. A phone call or email can get whatever admin thing done. [2/15/2019 12:32 AM] aceat64 there's trust levels and then there's staff permissions [2/15/2019 12:33 AM] aceat64 trust levels are automatic based on activity, with the exception of level 4 which has to be manually done, the permissions for mod and admin are just check boxes [2/15/2019 10:44 AM] andrew5152 @stephenie my apologies for picking that scab. I merely meant it as a point-in-time reference precipitate event. It is largely water under the bride, I think. FYI, you are still "Trust Level 4": {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/546008825254379521/unknown.png?ex=67b95618&is=67b80498&hm=77dd8444d5b0caeec7fc7101343ac63c512884dc1c9549982c4cc0f0d00f3089& [2/15/2019 1:35 PM] stephenie. Totally ok. I own my mistakes. Up front about it. May others learn from them. {Reactions} dms [2/17/2019 12:36 AM] aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/546580586912022548/discobot.PNG?ex=67b97056&is=67b81ed6&hm=d8afee85f4bb819328c6d1f5f391544af0729634bd47095d2aba4d34bd241235& [2/17/2019 12:36 AM] aceat64 well this is new, I guess we have a bot now that interacts with new users via PM and as part of the tutorial (if it goes long enough) is to delete and undelete a post [2/17/2019 12:36 AM] aceat64 kinda annoying that it generates a flag though [2/17/2019 12:42 AM] aceat64 it does resolve it instantly so we don't get the new flag notification [2/17/2019 12:51 AM] aceat64 ok, we gotta do something about the crashing to a 502 on the admin dashboard problem [2/17/2019 2:34 PM] aceat64 Still getting those "shit is broken" PMs from system, we probably need to upgrade and rebuild the container [2/17/2019 7:10 PM] draco_the_drake What we decided about the issue was to install a fresh version of a stable version of Discourse in a new VM and then import the data into it. No one has taken up the task as of yet. [2/17/2019 7:10 PM] draco_the_drake It is because Luke accidentally upgraded our Talk version from a very old beta to a bleeding new beta [2/17/2019 7:12 PM] draco_the_drake @aceat64 [2/17/2019 7:58 PM] aceat64 Ahh [2/17/2019 7:59 PM] aceat64 I'll should have time next weekend to work on that if someone can setup the new VM, personally I like Ubuntu 18.04 [2/18/2019 1:16 AM] hon1nbo as much as I would prefer we use CentOS for stability, more people here seem to be familiar with a debian base. Luckily it's in a container so shouldn't be as big of an issue [2/18/2019 1:16 AM] hon1nbo did anyone ever get FreeIPA running by chance? [2/18/2019 1:16 AM] hon1nbo been meaning to check in on the status of that [2/18/2019 7:54 AM] aceat64 I don't have the time atm, but I can rant at length as to why Ubuntu is better ๐Ÿ˜ [2/18/2019 4:42 PM] draco_the_drake I like Ubuntu as well [2/18/2019 11:51 PM] hon1nbo I get why people like ubuntu, but there's a reason CentOS has fewer failures :P I can't even trust a server to come online with an apt upgrade anymore since the QA on their grub package is trash. [2/18/2019 11:52 PM] hon1nbo when I say failures, I mean as a system overall. Things like the lack of PHP7 in the base repo are still breaking my heart. [2/19/2019 4:33 AM] aceat64 CentOS is great if you don't mind a ton of 3rd party repos so you can have versions of software newer than 7 years old ๐Ÿคฃ [2/19/2019 6:27 AM] draco_the_drake @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium said "when I say failures, I mean as a system overall. Things like the lack of PHP7 in the base repo are still breaking my heart." What are you talking about? It has been default since April 21, 2016 when 16.04 came out ... keep up man ๐Ÿ˜› [2/19/2019 6:28 AM] draco_the_drake ```apt install php``` will get you php 7 [2/19/2019 6:44 AM] draco_the_drake I've never had a serious problem upgrading ubuntu [2/19/2019 12:41 PM] aceat64 @StanSimmons @Draco @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium who can spin up a new VM for talk? I really do want to get this fixed and I have a decent chunk of time (for once) this weekend to do it [2/19/2019 12:42 PM] aceat64 I've done it before, so I know the process, I probably have the most experience in dealing with the insanity that is discourse administration [2/19/2019 12:47 PM] hon1nbo I'm under the weather and on a bunch of loopy stuff so it would be unwise to edit infra. @Draco was talking about CentOS, bot Ubuntu. And while the feature sets are older, they back port security fixes. There's a reason it's so stable. [2/19/2019 4:22 PM] aceat64 who has AWS access and authorization to spin up a VM? [2/19/2019 4:52 PM] draco_the_drake Any VM spin up, I would okay it with Stan [2/19/2019 5:01 PM] draco_the_drake @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium Ubuntu has something called LTS or Long Term Support. They are versions of Ubuntu that are supported with security fixes and upgrades for many years. Also, here are the status of Ubuntu Security Backports https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/main.html {Embed} https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/main.html Ubuntu CVE Tracker Ubuntu CVE Tracker [2/19/2019 5:20 PM] hon1nbo That's not what I mean. I get that they both have security fixes Ubuntu, even LTS, includes feature updates regularly that alter functionality. It's not as reliable as CentOS in that regard CentOS doesn't put in the misc feature inprovemebts regularly, but backports the security of newer versions regardless [2/20/2019 12:36 AM] draco_the_drake I believe that you can turn off all updates except security [2/20/2019 2:15 AM] hon1nbo not quite how that works in Apt [2/20/2019 2:15 AM] hon1nbo you can turn off updates unless it includes security, but you can't turn off the random feature and major updates [2/20/2019 2:15 AM] hon1nbo if they happen to have a security patch in it [2/20/2019 2:40 AM] draco_the_drake ``` Updates that fix security vulnerabilities. They are managed by the Ubuntu Security Team and are designed to change the behavior of the package as little as possible -- in fact, the minimum required to resolve the security problem. As a result, they tend to be very low-risk to apply and all users are urged to apply security updates. ``` https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu [2/20/2019 6:54 AM] stansimmons2031 Someone please spin up an AWS vm for Andrew to fix the Talk version issue. I'm still ill and too loopy on benadryl to do it myself. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/20/2019 8:10 AM] draco_the_drake I'm spinning one up [2/20/2019 11:41 AM] hon1nbo @Draco that's a different but welcomed mode of update operation [2/21/2019 3:40 AM] draco_the_drake Yup and you can set it up in an unattended fashion if you wish from the CLI [2/21/2019 11:11 AM] aceat64 confirmed I can login to the new VM, will play around with restoring from backup when I get a chance [2/21/2019 11:11 AM] aceat64 last time I did it, it was pretty straightforward [2/21/2019 11:46 PM] andrew5152 TALK is dragging pretty hard. Hoping ya'll are doing something...intensive...with it... [2/21/2019 11:52 PM] draco_the_drake It seems quick for me at the moment [2/21/2019 11:52 PM] draco_the_drake I'm not doing anything [2/22/2019 12:08 AM] draco_the_drake It does seem to be slow [2/22/2019 12:22 AM] yashsedai was gonna ask [2/22/2019 12:22 AM] yashsedai it looks like shit [2/22/2019 12:26 AM] draco_the_drake @yashsedai .. what do you mean looks like shit? [2/22/2019 12:26 AM] yashsedai i mean its acting weird and pooping errors [2/22/2019 12:26 AM] yashsedai as in it has a heavy load [2/22/2019 12:26 AM] yashsedai i havent logged into the vm [2/22/2019 12:26 AM] yashsedai i guess i could look at utilization [2/22/2019 12:26 AM] yashsedai is lecody doing something to it? [2/22/2019 12:27 AM] draco_the_drake I logged and it is sitting idle [2/22/2019 12:27 AM] draco_the_drake 0.11 load avg [2/22/2019 12:27 AM] yashsedai wonder if its a redis problem then [2/22/2019 12:29 AM] draco_the_drake A few minutes ago I tried to login as adm and it just sat and spun [2/22/2019 12:29 AM] draco_the_drake finally got it [2/22/2019 12:29 AM] draco_the_drake in [2/22/2019 12:36 AM] yashsedai any opposition to kicking it in the ass for a restart? [2/22/2019 12:36 AM] yashsedai its been up for 76 days [2/22/2019 12:36 AM] draco_the_drake Nope ... I will reboot it [2/22/2019 12:36 AM] yashsedai aye [2/22/2019 12:36 AM] draco_the_drake Rebooting .... [2/22/2019 12:37 AM] yashsedai lol that was LOUD! [2/22/2019 12:37 AM] yashsedai putty went bong [2/22/2019 12:37 AM] yashsedai volume was higher than expected here [2/22/2019 12:37 AM] draco_the_drake hehe [2/22/2019 12:38 AM] draco_the_drake ok .. looks like it is working better [2/22/2019 12:38 AM] yashsedai seems better behaved [2/22/2019 12:39 AM] yashsedai isn't that just annoying how a restart produces better behavior [2/22/2019 12:39 AM] yashsedai some days i wish we could do it to people [2/22/2019 12:40 AM] draco_the_drake ... just tell them to go back to sleep and try again [2/22/2019 12:41 AM] draco_the_drake I found this in the logs ... ``` 'hijack onebox show' is still running after 90 seconds on db default, this process may need to be restarted! ``` [2/22/2019 12:41 AM] yashsedai hrm [2/22/2019 12:48 AM] draco_the_drake Apparently it is something internal that tries to recover badly behaving threads/processes [2/22/2019 10:14 AM] aceat64 Yeah, def wasn't me lol I was in bed around 11 [2/22/2019 10:19 PM] aceat64 Welp going to be hard to migrate talk now lol [2/22/2019 10:30 PM] stansimmons2031 Dude, you should have let ANYONE else moderate that thread. [2/22/2019 10:38 PM] aceat64 I only moderated the duplicate posts after telling Nick how to unhide his post. If you look through all my flags historically I avoid acting on or flagging any posts directed at me. I get you're mad, but I only wanted to keep the thread uncluttered. [2/22/2019 10:39 PM] aceat64 I'll ping y'all next time though. [2/22/2019 10:39 PM] aceat64 Kinda tired of handling flags imo, would rather just fix the VM. [2/22/2019 10:44 PM] aceat64 I get your position and I'm not upset with you btw [2/22/2019 10:45 PM] stansimmons2031 If you want to fix the VM, I'll reinstate the Admin priv tomorrow. I just want everyone to chill for tonight. [2/22/2019 10:45 PM] aceat64 That's fine with me, I probably will have the most time to work on it Sunday anyway [2/22/2019 10:46 PM] aceat64 Gotta get my hair did tomorrow, it ain't easy being this pretty [2/22/2019 10:46 PM] stansimmons2031 k, go have a beer or a blunt... or whatever. [2/22/2019 10:46 PM] aceat64 It's national margarita day! [2/23/2019 8:14 AM] clone1018 Was it last night? [2/23/2019 8:14 AM] clone1018 Cause I drank a pitcher of margarita [2/23/2019 8:42 AM] aceat64 It was [2/23/2019 8:43 AM] aceat64 Was in a crunch at work so we didn't go get some during lunch like we had planned [2/23/2019 11:13 PM] canibalcrab I was told that I could see who was a committee chair via AD, how would I do that? I assume jumpserver is needed but what's the next step [2/25/2019 2:39 PM] andrew5152 @pearce I assume you already got a response to your query? I can offer pointers, but not "a good way" to accomplish what I think you want... [2/25/2019 2:40 PM] canibalcrab Nope [2/25/2019 2:40 PM] canibalcrab Well for starters I just want an easy list of current chairs. [2/25/2019 2:40 PM] canibalcrab I need to update roles [2/25/2019 2:41 PM] canibalcrab I would love to automate it [2/25/2019 2:44 PM] andrew5152 Here's the skinny: The security group "commitee chairs" contains groups such as "3d fab chair" and "vector chair", which in turn, contain the person who is (currently, per whomever is keeping these up to date, which I assume to be Stan, but might be someone else in Infrastructure) the chair of said committee. So, hard and laborious but easily accomplishable by the likes of me (GUIbaby) is to use Active Directory Users and Computers, pull up each sub-group in "Committee Chairs", and note the committee and its chair. This SHOULD be easily accomplishable with a script, powershell being the environment of choice these days, but I don't really know how to get there. Getting the members of a group is easy; getting the members of a nested group is actually not even hard; getting that list, along with their respective committee groups to make notating this all easy peasy, outside my ken... [2/25/2019 2:47 PM] canibalcrab There's also a big discontent between ad logins and discord accounts [2/25/2019 2:47 PM] andrew5152 THAT I know from nothing, being completely ignorant of Discord other than typing into this little "type here to post" bar... [2/25/2019 2:48 PM] andrew5152 A script. something like this, would probably be what one needs to concoct in order to accomplish gathering the data... [2/25/2019 2:48 PM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/549694295150428160/unknown.png?ex=67b8e6b4&is=67b79534&hm=5132a7a3c47c6eddabc93d5d1503967d538613c92aeef97ca7fff06128fbe06a& [2/25/2019 2:49 PM] andrew5152 Taken from here https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2180603-groups-and-nested-groups {Embed} https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2180603-groups-and-nested-groups Groups and Nested Groups Dear AllGood Day. I have an audit for AD and they gave me a bunch of groups to extract the members. checking the groups not only users are in it but nested groups as well.I trie... [2/25/2019 2:49 PM] canibalcrab :gross: [2/25/2019 4:11 PM] aceat64 We could maybe put in an attribute in AD for discord username [2/25/2019 4:12 PM] aceat64 It would be on the chairs to ensure that's set [2/26/2019 1:24 PM] aceat64 @StanSimmons any update on my talk account? I may have time tonight to work on stuff [2/26/2019 4:37 PM] stansimmons2031 Ok, I've set you back to admin. Please play nice. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/26/2019 5:03 PM] aceat64 Step 1, all category names are now in camel case [2/26/2019 5:04 PM] aceat64 Step 2, posting requires using emacs keybindings [2/26/2019 5:05 PM] aceat64 Step 3, site wide banner urging use of IE only [2/26/2019 7:37 PM] shdragon Netscape Navigator [2/26/2019 7:41 PM] aceat64 I'm not a monster [2/26/2019 9:30 PM] stansimmons2031 lol [2/26/2019 9:34 PM] aceat64 do we have an SSL cert for talk? [2/26/2019 9:34 PM] aceat64 I know cloudflare handles the public facing side, but did we buy one for the backend? [2/26/2019 9:42 PM] draco_the_drake We should most likely use LetsEncrypt [2/26/2019 9:42 PM] draco_the_drake There is an installer avaliable [2/26/2019 9:42 PM] draco_the_drake We are using that on the calendar and accounts [2/26/2019 9:55 PM] aceat64 looks like for now I can run with an invalid cert, will setup letsencrypt after stuff is moved over [2/26/2019 9:58 PM] aceat64 doesn't look like I'll have time tonight to do more than test the migration, lets shoot for 7pm tomorrow for the actual run [2/26/2019 9:59 PM] aceat64 basic order of operations is: I'll make the current forums read-only, take a backup, restore to new vm, then we update DNS [2/26/2019 10:02 PM] aceat64 can someone update the TTL now to be like 60s? [2/26/2019 10:02 PM] aceat64 I think it's like 300s, but faster is better for a migration [2/26/2019 10:16 PM] aceat64 ok, verified that the restore works! [2/26/2019 10:16 PM] aceat64 I'll post something on the forums later to let people know shit gonna be down [2/26/2019 10:58 PM] draco_the_drake Does it have the admin problem? [2/26/2019 11:42 PM] aceat64 shit, I should have checked [2/26/2019 11:42 PM] aceat64 I got tired because it took so damn long to import that I just verified it came up [2/27/2019 12:36 AM] aceat64 ok, I spun it back up real fast, and yeah the admin dashboard works again {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/27/2019 6:46 PM] aceat64 ok, I'm all setup for the migration [2/27/2019 6:46 PM] aceat64 at 7pm I'll put Talk into read-only [2/27/2019 6:58 PM] hon1nbo glfh [2/27/2019 7:01 PM] canibalcrab *talk server catches fire* [2/27/2019 7:01 PM] aceat64 it's immutable now, fire can't harm it [2/27/2019 7:01 PM] aceat64 that's physics [2/27/2019 7:02 PM] aceat64 backup started [2/27/2019 7:02 PM] canibalcrab Will this update bring back emojis? [2/27/2019 7:02 PM] aceat64 no, we'll actually have fewer plugins at least to start [2/27/2019 7:02 PM] aceat64 after shit is fixed I can look into retort [2/27/2019 7:03 PM] canibalcrab Cool [2/27/2019 7:04 PM] aceat64 well that's weird, I guess the backup process disabled the readonly mode [2/27/2019 7:05 PM] aceat64 oh, it disabled once the backup ended [2/27/2019 7:06 PM] aceat64 sorry Nick and @Draco your posts are going to be lost [2/27/2019 7:07 PM] aceat64 they were made after the backup ๐Ÿคท [2/27/2019 7:07 PM] canibalcrab Copy them? [2/27/2019 7:08 PM] aceat64 eh, I leave that up to them to repost [2/27/2019 7:09 PM] aceat64 bah, it keeps kicking out of readonly [2/27/2019 7:09 PM] aceat64 very annoying [2/27/2019 7:09 PM] hon1nbo maybe just kill access to the web service to mitigate? [2/27/2019 7:10 PM] hon1nbo change the allow all web config to whatever the source IPs are for your work [2/27/2019 7:10 PM] draco_the_drake Lets just take it out of DNS [2/27/2019 7:10 PM] canibalcrab Yeah they will survive for a bit without access [2/27/2019 7:11 PM] draco_the_drake Everything points to cloudflare anyway [2/27/2019 7:11 PM] draco_the_drake didn't we setup a redirect, @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium [2/27/2019 7:11 PM] draco_the_drake on Cloudflare for this type of thing? [2/27/2019 7:12 PM] aceat64 I was hoping to keep it up but readonly for most of this :\ [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] hon1nbo if it kicks out of readonly too much I think it's an acceptable trade off [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] hon1nbo we don't want inconsistent states [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] aceat64 it's almost done with the backup [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] hon1nbo as for cloudflare DNS can just be killed [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] aceat64 yeah, just kill the DNS for now [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] hon1nbo however that depends on how Andrew is logging in [2/27/2019 7:13 PM] hon1nbo but my guess is CLIU [2/27/2019 7:14 PM] hon1nbo CLI [2/27/2019 7:14 PM] aceat64 yeah, I'm SSH'd in [2/27/2019 7:14 PM] hon1nbo so that shouldn't affect much [2/27/2019 7:14 PM] hon1nbo do it Draco [2/27/2019 7:14 PM] aceat64 I'm blaming this on the broken ass state of the install [2/27/2019 7:17 PM] draco_the_drake I'm leaving [2/27/2019 7:17 PM] draco_the_drake I can't be here right now [2/27/2019 7:19 PM] aceat64 restore is going on the new vm [2/27/2019 7:21 PM] aceat64 so who's handling DNS? [2/27/2019 7:24 PM] canibalcrab Can't be at the space? [2/27/2019 7:28 PM] hon1nbo I don't have the info for it [2/27/2019 7:28 PM] aceat64 @Denzuko.sdf.org said he should be at the space/online [2/27/2019 7:55 PM] aceat64 import is successful, it's going through and doing background tasks now [2/27/2019 7:55 PM] aceat64 we should be able to switch over the DNS whenever [2/27/2019 8:00 PM] aceat64 just need one of the two people who said they'd be online to do it lol [2/27/2019 8:08 PM] aceat64 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium do you have access to the admin wiki? the cloudflare info is probably in there [2/27/2019 8:09 PM] hon1nbo I never got the info for it and I'm working on something at home. Been out of the country until today and someone attempted to assault my colleague at the client site last night so I decided to Check Out for everything today [2/27/2019 8:09 PM] aceat64 well shit, hope they're ok [2/27/2019 8:20 PM] hon1nbo they're fine but we both wanted some time to not have to put up with shit [2/27/2019 8:22 PM] aceat64 makes sense [2/27/2019 8:36 PM] yashsedai I can do it [2/27/2019 8:36 PM] yashsedai What is the new ip [2/27/2019 8:40 PM] canibalcrab @aceat64 ^ [2/27/2019 8:40 PM] aceat64 54.89.170.89 [2/27/2019 8:40 PM] aceat64 thanks @yashsedai [2/27/2019 8:40 PM] yashsedai Gimme a second [2/27/2019 8:44 PM] yashsedai Done [2/27/2019 8:44 PM] aceat64 thanks! [2/27/2019 8:45 PM] yashsedai Looks like its resolving [2/27/2019 8:46 PM] aceat64 yup, re-enabling email now [2/27/2019 8:46 PM] mizgeek Thank you guys for all your hard work! [2/27/2019 8:47 PM] yashsedai Ping if you need anything else. Thanks for doing this! [2/27/2019 8:47 PM] aceat64 everything is looking good so far [2/27/2019 8:48 PM] mizgeek Iโ€™m back in without a problem... FYI [2/27/2019 8:50 PM] aceat64 there may be some broken images, mostly on old posts [2/27/2019 8:50 PM] aceat64 it's going through and resizing them for some reason [2/27/2019 9:18 PM] clone1018 Hows the sidekiq queue? [2/27/2019 9:18 PM] clone1018 I think it's talk.dallasmakerspace.org/sidekiq [2/27/2019 9:18 PM] clone1018 or something [2/27/2019 9:18 PM] clone1018 as an admin [2/27/2019 9:19 PM] clone1018 all fonts are bigger now rofl [2/27/2019 9:24 PM] aceat64 925 enqueue [2/27/2019 9:26 PM] aceat64 913, it's going down fairly fast [3/1/2019 3:59 PM] aceat64 We may want to bump up to a much larger VM for a few days to burn through this backlog [3/1/2019 3:59 PM] aceat64 9,813 jobs in queue [3/4/2019 5:29 PM] aceat64 I'm going to install plugins again, now that things have settled with the backlog [3/4/2019 5:29 PM] aceat64 if anyone has suggestions, drop me a link to the plugin [3/4/2019 5:37 PM] canibalcrab Emoji {Reactions} ๐Ÿ  (2) [3/4/2019 5:38 PM] aceat64 I can't seem to find it anyone [3/4/2019 5:38 PM] aceat64 Anymore* [3/4/2019 5:38 PM] canibalcrab If possible the Green Dot need to to move on to the user image more. It overhangs on text fields [3/4/2019 5:38 PM] canibalcrab Minor thing [3/4/2019 10:28 PM] yashsedai denzuko [3/7/2019 7:50 PM] mizgeek Is anyone with keys to the front case around? [3/7/2019 7:51 PM] mizgeek I was going to rescue R2D2 [3/7/2019 9:29 PM] stephenie. ^^^ resolved. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/9/2019 4:19 PM] hon1nbo did we end up getting any Chromebooks for the space? [3/9/2019 4:19 PM] hon1nbo if we did since I"ve been in the G Suite so much I realized we should turn on their MDM [3/9/2019 6:42 PM] draco_the_drake Yes .. I think we got 10 and there are 2 in the laptop cabinet [3/9/2019 6:43 PM] draco_the_drake I was thinking about converting them to thin clients [3/9/2019 10:23 PM] hon1nbo that's a possibility but to what backing? [3/9/2019 10:23 PM] hon1nbo I thought we were going to set an RDP script or something on it [3/9/2019 11:10 PM] draco_the_drake Some chromebooks have the ability to run android apps. These have been locked down. However, there is a method for these models to have android installed natively. Then one could setup and use Microsoft's remote desktop client to connect to JUMP or some other APP server. This would make them a whole lot more useful for classes. [3/9/2019 11:35 PM] hon1nbo yeah that was what I thought we were doing. Our G Suite supports MDM, which would prevent other apps and stuff from being installed and we could remote wipe / reset them etc [3/9/2019 11:35 PM] hon1nbo we can also have it presinstall configured apps so when one has to be reset it already has the clients installed [3/10/2019 6:21 PM] draco_the_drake Well, Stan said I was welcome to try it out on one of them up in the laptop cabinet .. So, I think you would be welcome to try [3/10/2019 8:31 PM] doug.emes Jim you avail? That vinyl cutter pc is still hosed I'm in front of it right now [3/10/2019 8:33 PM] doug.emes @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium now ya tagged sorry [3/11/2019 1:44 AM] doug.emes Fyi he and I looked at the vinyl machine. See talk for updates [3/18/2019 1:56 PM] mell.jpg Talk changed right? No longer showing New and Unread for me on the drop-down on mobile. [3/18/2019 2:00 PM] andrew5152 as far as I can tell, those now show up only when you have posts which flag New and/or Unread... but yeah, I think that's a change from previous behaviour (like, I think I remember those being part of the pulldown yesterday, even if there were no New/Unreads in my feed)... [3/18/2019 2:08 PM] aceat64 Yeah I updated us to a new version a few weeks ago, it likely changed [3/18/2019 2:09 PM] mell.jpg weird. Just changed for me today though. [3/18/2019 2:17 PM] aceat64 Maybe someone ran an update? [3/18/2019 2:17 PM] aceat64 I can't check lol [3/20/2019 11:54 AM] mell.jpg Nick getting dinged for that first strike is weird bc rule wasn't published anywhere and minutes weren't up. What the heck? How do other moderators feel about this? [3/20/2019 11:58 AM] aceat64 were the mods even aware of the rule other than Stan? [3/20/2019 2:43 PM] merissa4308 Are more moderators needed? I will volunteer and have experience doing it in the past under Lisa when the moderator policy was being developed. [3/21/2019 10:21 AM] andrew5152 anyone else notice the missing "+ New Topic" button on TALK? It was there last I knew, now appears to not be there. Wondering how to create a new topic from an existing post with out it... [3/21/2019 10:21 AM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/558309172509409316/unknown.png?ex=67b942af&is=67b7f12f&hm=7e7297bf67997411d9ab5279dc2ce107f54c5b7a08d5c403d42091c14332976a& [3/21/2019 10:48 AM] andrew5152 Ah. Found it. It's now in the "hidden" "Reply Arrow Thingy We All Have Been Ignoring Since Inception" button function [3/21/2019 10:48 AM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/558316093450747924/unknown.png?ex=67b94921&is=67b7f7a1&hm=77106aece1fc2616b7ce54d99eb204d0b8a56575fdb227e177eab8f3aa9a553a& [3/22/2019 4:40 PM] doug.emes RFID thingy tonight [3/22/2019 4:46 PM] yashsedai ? [3/22/2019 5:06 PM] canibalcrab Some sort of cryptic message [3/22/2019 6:00 PM] stansimmons2031 There is a meeting tonight to discuss the software side of the rfid system, with an eye to making aggregate data available to members [3/25/2019 2:15 PM] hon1nbo http://www.keysystemsinc.com/ [3/25/2019 2:16 PM] hon1nbo this is one of the units I had been looking at for key control. [3/25/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo it has a lot of nice audit features and committee leaders can delegate access to equipment keys. Supports our RFID system and MFA. Can even send an SMS or Email if a key isn't returned and who checked it out [3/25/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo it also only requires one controller for multiple panels, so can add more slots over time [3/26/2019 10:46 AM] stansimmons2031 I'm very interested if they give substantial non-profit discounts. $7k + is too steep for us. [3/26/2019 10:53 AM] kenpurcell It is expensive but access control is becoming so important. Especially is used with tons of tools. [3/26/2019 2:28 PM] canibalcrab Is it though Ken? [3/26/2019 2:28 PM] canibalcrab We leave the back door without a handle {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [3/26/2019 3:04 PM] kenpurcell WHAT? Are we neglecting maintenance, say it ain't so. There hasn't been a bathroom I'm willing to visit at DMS for 10 months. and that is standing up. {Reactions} sloth [3/26/2019 3:14 PM] canibalcrab If I knew how to fix toilets or urinals I would have given the installs on the toilets a stab [3/26/2019 3:14 PM] canibalcrab But flooding is bad [3/26/2019 10:14 PM] draco_the_drake The urinal has the issue of the plumbing in the wall being too small [3/26/2019 10:14 PM] draco_the_drake or in need of repair [3/26/2019 10:15 PM] draco_the_drake They are going over the bathrooms in expansion [3/26/2019 10:45 PM] hon1nbo I'm waiting to hear back on discounts, the local rep isn't authorized for that so they're asking up. But given how reliant we are on a ton of keys still for a lot of things it's worth considering [3/27/2019 1:14 PM] canibalcrab Talk appears to be down [3/27/2019 1:15 PM] canibalcrab @StanSimmons @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium and I think @Denzuko.sdf.org ? [3/27/2019 1:16 PM] mizgeek Wayne just caught me repeatedly poking my phone yelling โ€œNo! No! No!โ€ ๐Ÿ˜› [3/27/2019 1:16 PM] mizgeek CPR! Quickly! [3/27/2019 1:19 PM] aceat64 Main site and accounts are still up, so likely an issue with the forums specifically [3/27/2019 1:19 PM] aceat64 Someone click on the upgrade button and not give a heads up? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [3/27/2019 1:21 PM] draco_the_drake It's back [3/27/2019 1:22 PM] mizgeek -applause- [3/27/2019 1:22 PM] aceat64 Weird [3/27/2019 1:22 PM] aceat64 @Draco anything in the admin logs? [3/27/2019 1:24 PM] draco_the_drake Apparently the system decided it was time to delete a whole lot of inactive users [3/27/2019 1:24 PM] draco_the_drake It looks like it is still deleting [3/27/2019 1:25 PM] canibalcrab :think: [3/27/2019 1:26 PM] aceat64 Well that's odd [3/27/2019 1:27 PM] draco_the_drake Looks like it is deleting any users that haven't signed on in a year [3/27/2019 1:27 PM] draco_the_drake I wonder if it is deleting the posts? [3/27/2019 1:28 PM] aceat64 It shouldn't, you can't delete users with posts [3/27/2019 1:28 PM] draco_the_drake ok [3/27/2019 1:28 PM] canibalcrab That's a weird auto feature, did we leave a box unchecked when it updated? [3/27/2019 1:28 PM] aceat64 Can you send a screenshot of the log [3/27/2019 1:28 PM] aceat64 I've never seen it delete users [3/27/2019 1:29 PM] draco_the_drake Just looking through them .. I looked through 6 or 7 .. all with trust level 0 [3/27/2019 1:30 PM] draco_the_drake It deleted several with IP 127.0.0.1 [3/27/2019 1:30 PM] aceat64 Could be users with no posts [3/27/2019 1:30 PM] draco_the_drake looks like it [3/27/2019 1:31 PM] aceat64 Does it say "automatically deleted due to old and unverified"? [3/27/2019 1:31 PM] draco_the_drake no [3/27/2019 1:31 PM] draco_the_drake looking in the error log [3/27/2019 1:31 PM] draco_the_drake see lots of "Error: Could not find module discourse/components/home-logo" [3/27/2019 1:32 PM] aceat64 That's new [3/27/2019 1:33 PM] draco_the_drake Also lots of these with different urls ``` Uncaught [object Object] Url: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/assets/ember_jquery-5dbd79abddf53926275c73f77dbe61e7351258de8d2e886bf2ce86f144368848.js Line: 1 Column: 267485 Window Location: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/seeking-sunlight-post-your-joy-here/53402/5 ``` [3/27/2019 1:34 PM] aceat64 The error log is real chatty [3/27/2019 1:34 PM] aceat64 Might be nothing [3/27/2019 1:34 PM] aceat64 Any admin actions before the deletions [3/27/2019 1:34 PM] draco_the_drake There are hundreds of these two errors [3/27/2019 1:34 PM] draco_the_drake and they are continuing [3/27/2019 1:35 PM] draco_the_drake The earliest is Tuesday at 6:16pm [3/27/2019 1:36 PM] aceat64 You'll want to look for settings changes or upgrades just prior to the mass delete [3/27/2019 1:38 PM] draco_the_drake This is strange .... it just suspended Alex Rhodes .. calling him a Troll with the details "We only allow humans on the forum. " [3/27/2019 1:40 PM] draco_the_drake Who is user "dmstalkadmin" ? [3/27/2019 1:40 PM] canibalcrab :notsure: [3/27/2019 1:42 PM] draco_the_drake Ok sorry the suspension looks like it happened a while ago [3/27/2019 1:43 PM] draco_the_drake Apparently I was reading this completely wrong [3/27/2019 1:43 PM] draco_the_drake never mind about the suspension of Alex [3/27/2019 1:44 PM] draco_the_drake It was Alex that was suspending a user called Troll back in '15 [3/27/2019 1:44 PM] draco_the_drake *doh* [3/27/2019 1:45 PM] canibalcrab Yeah that was a whole thing [3/27/2019 1:49 PM] aceat64 I guess just let it do it's thing and see how it settles out [3/27/2019 1:49 PM] aceat64 Worst case restore from this morning's backup [3/27/2019 2:38 PM] draco_the_drake oh it just banned the board members and chairs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [3/27/2019 2:38 PM] draco_the_drake *kidding* [3/27/2019 2:40 PM] aceat64 THE PURGE {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (2) [3/27/2019 3:27 PM] shdragon Thanos is snapping the database? [3/27/2019 3:28 PM] canibalcrab Lol [3/27/2019 9:36 PM] nullinterface DROP TABLE members; [3/27/2019 10:32 PM] yashsedai nooooo [3/27/2019 10:54 PM] aceat64 technically in discourse it would be users [3/27/2019 11:38 PM] draco_the_drake I bigger question is if AWS completely locked our account or lost all our data ... could we recover easily and do any backups we make work? [3/28/2019 2:10 PM] andrew5152 This is annoying... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/560903570992398336/unknown.png?ex=67b8cfa8&is=67b77e28&hm=18512ae2e03a1ec040fdd34b4167e6071e92637d81687dabfeac2c661ee82f62& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [3/28/2019 2:10 PM] canibalcrab Weird [3/28/2019 2:20 PM] aceat64 That's new [3/28/2019 2:45 PM] kenpurcell Talk version of when was the last time you were at the space. [3/28/2019 2:47 PM] canibalcrab *untrustworthy* [3/28/2019 4:07 PM] hon1nbo @Lampy (Ken Purcell) I would love to see that recorded somewhere honestly [3/28/2019 4:36 PM] kenpurcell In person conversation is great but not sure why so much is discounted when work happens remotely. [3/28/2019 4:38 PM] draco_the_drake It is not about work but so much more different conversation happens at the space and in person is so much more expressive than text [3/28/2019 4:39 PM] aceat64 In person doesn't scale though [3/28/2019 4:40 PM] aceat64 You can't do governance in person with 2200 people [3/28/2019 4:41 PM] kenpurcell they are trying but it breaks down to just the people in the room. And a lot of people are not invited. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [3/28/2019 5:20 PM] hon1nbo @lampy the big difference is staying informed. Information asymmetry is a big cause of a lot of out problems when it comes to discussions online, and for forming plans forward. Sometimes that information is being withheld, and other times people just assume they know everything and argue it to the end. I think most people know how much Brandon hates certain committees, and it's clear he doesn't pay any attention to them. I'd like to see a counter for when he last visited X committee he's trying to make a proposal to shrink / otherwise neuter {Reactions} dumpsterfire [3/28/2019 5:21 PM] hon1nbo governance is even worse than planning construction projects; we've all already seen how the lack of scaling for all this in person dealing is affecting us [3/28/2019 5:26 PM] canibalcrab One of the issues with "in person" is stuff like memory. We have way too many people with bad memories to be able to rely on in person chatter. I don't think Brandon was trying to neuter, making the floor plan work with as few wall changes seemed to be the goal of his napkin redraw [3/28/2019 5:42 PM] agr0090 lol, who do I hate? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [3/28/2019 5:45 PM] canibalcrab Word on the street is clutter [3/28/2019 5:45 PM] canibalcrab And tools that don't work [3/28/2019 5:46 PM] agr0090 that is true, generally not a fan of unorganized / unoptimized areas [3/28/2019 5:46 PM] agr0090 I twitch every time I walk past the logistics shelf across from science, its just cold storage / junk that never moves and is denying members access to more project storage shelf space [3/28/2019 5:48 PM] agr0090 Took this picture August 9th, it hasn't changed significantly since {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/560958450734071808/6Sc3Crylq6VoqDmXr7MHgEmxGQxkRzUiJD8iPF_rpFRCDuQfEKienH7KTXCXMQB9o49bkIkA8JYGmqSyijuT7EIX-JyjruUvQ8zL.png?ex=67b902c4&is=67b7b144&hm=6346f21306d7a5b0d609e0779c17c2e112377c3122b498de64481fd1d5892dd2& [3/28/2019 10:36 PM] hon1nbo @AGr referring to this thread https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/cheaper-expansion-layout-ideas [3/28/2019 10:37 PM] hon1nbo I get that certain things aren't well organized but need to actually understand what goes on in a committee if you want any of it too be taken seriously [3/28/2019 10:55 PM] agr0090 Working from problem of how to connect two suite workshop areas and brainstorming doing it by expanding metalshop into new area to allow for a walkway is a plausible idea [3/28/2019 10:56 PM] agr0090 I took some measurements of metalshop equipment last week to be able to write up a more concrete idea [3/28/2019 10:58 PM] hon1nbo but did you measure equipment as *operating* [3/28/2019 10:59 PM] hon1nbo that plasma needs nearly ~18' of length clearance just to be able to get the damn drawer open [3/28/2019 11:00 PM] hon1nbo but most importantly, it's also what people actually do in there. I can't train people fast enough on our ovens which get regular use, and we've been eating through steel so I've been trying to come up with some new storage ideas to handle the higher volume moving through [3/28/2019 11:01 PM] hon1nbo We've procured about 200 feet of tubing the past two months alone, and have already eaten over half of it [3/28/2019 11:01 PM] hon1nbo but we've been getting them as 12' sticks. [3/28/2019 11:02 PM] hon1nbo that's going to be the really tricky stuff to find a solution for; I'd like to see it stored next door when we can, but we need to make a viable way to move all of it [3/28/2019 11:02 PM] hon1nbo regularly, without it being cut down [3/28/2019 11:02 PM] agr0090 Good info thanks, what is tubing used for? [3/28/2019 11:03 PM] hon1nbo in house projects and teaching. The rate is going to drop, but not any time soon [3/28/2019 11:03 PM] hon1nbo we're making some new equipment stands, various jigs [3/28/2019 11:03 PM] hon1nbo there were things like the water buffalo that still have more work to go on them [3/28/2019 11:03 PM] hon1nbo the oven jig and a lot of its associated shelves are up next [3/28/2019 11:05 PM] hon1nbo hopefully with the jigs I can also start upping the average powder coating class size and feed people through the training. It's the thing I get requested to teach most, though the tubing bender has started to have an increase since people started seeing the projects some have been working on like that pickup roll cage [3/28/2019 11:06 PM] hon1nbo that whole area, minus tubing, is pretty much always in flux; between the eating through 3/16 and 10ga for plasma classes, to the sheets being used to make new shelving and equipment panels. [3/28/2019 11:07 PM] hon1nbo some members toss in shit without us realizing, and it becomes hard to pull things out so we try to do a pick and sort every couple of meetings to check what's still there, what we need stock of, and anything that we aren't using [3/28/2019 11:07 PM] hon1nbo we reuse the hell out of stuff too. When we tossed the old oven table, we actually took the portaband to it and reused the steel from it to make some of the new shelving for some of the tool boxes [3/28/2019 11:08 PM] hon1nbo and I've recently been designing new tool holders for various things to give more equipment a proper home rather than let them just be "wherever" [3/28/2019 11:08 PM] agr0090 You've been doing a lot, thanks for the improvements [3/28/2019 11:09 PM] agr0090 I used the new angle grinders last time I was there [3/28/2019 11:09 PM] hon1nbo we also still catch members taking our teaching supplies for personal projects, then leaving the trash metal we can't use [3/28/2019 11:09 PM] hon1nbo those milwaukee units are nice [3/28/2019 11:09 PM] hon1nbo they even have intake filters [3/28/2019 11:09 PM] hon1nbo since it's not ryobi they also gravitate back to us [3/28/2019 11:10 PM] hon1nbo we also have a milwaukee portaband and the transfer pump on the buffalo too [3/28/2019 11:10 PM] hon1nbo if you see me around feel free to grab me and I'll show you how we've been putting stuff to use [3/28/2019 11:10 PM] hon1nbo we had to shift priorities around through as things have broken ' [3/28/2019 11:10 PM] agr0090 Nice, I went with all m18 for my home tools [3/28/2019 11:11 PM] hon1nbo / users always manage to do something progressively stupider [3/28/2019 11:11 PM] hon1nbo the m18 series has been great [4/1/2019 3:44 PM] denzuko @AGr do we need better storage bins? [4/1/2019 3:47 PM] agr0090 dont know what you are asking, personal storange bins? better how? [4/1/2019 4:39 PM] denzuko Looking over that pic of there you posted I'm seeing crushed boxes and looks like things are hard to find. if we need something better then let me know and I'll go get them [4/1/2019 4:41 PM] canibalcrab That's all committee/logistics storage @Denzuko.sdf.org it's up to them to contain stuff [4/1/2019 4:41 PM] canibalcrab But that stuff hasn't moved in at least a year [4/1/2019 4:41 PM] canibalcrab The bottom two shelves have a bit as glassworks gathered stuff [4/9/2019 6:55 PM] andrew5152 @yashsedai somebody cast confundus on the jumpserver? [4/9/2019 6:56 PM] yashsedai Lol [4/9/2019 6:57 PM] yashsedai May as well jave [4/9/2019 6:57 PM] yashsedai I put on my wizard robe and hat [4/9/2019 6:57 PM] yashsedai And cast unfuckus serverus [4/9/2019 6:58 PM] andrew5152 lol [4/9/2019 6:58 PM] andrew5152 wonder what the burn time is on that baby... [4/9/2019 7:00 PM] yashsedai Haha [4/10/2019 8:15 PM] denzuko guys, how do we resolve an account that signed up but forgot to sign the waiver? [4/10/2019 8:16 PM] denzuko they have just now gotten the waiver signed but MM3 is still not finding the waiver associated with thier account (same email) [4/10/2019 8:16 PM] robert22 How did he sign up with out a waiver [4/10/2019 8:16 PM] denzuko not sure [4/10/2019 8:17 PM] denzuko but he's got the wavier signed now and an account in maker manager/whmc just can't get past the find waiver part [4/10/2019 8:17 PM] robert22 Itโ€™s going to be a mm3 issue [4/10/2019 8:17 PM] robert22 Whmcs does not know@about the waiver [4/10/2019 8:18 PM] denzuko ok, so one has to what? go into the mm3 admin and then what from there? or does one need to fix it in the database? [4/10/2019 8:18 PM] robert22 Not sure on MM3 [4/10/2019 8:19 PM] denzuko it has the same schema and routing as mm2 [4/10/2019 8:19 PM] robert22 Are you confident the email is exactly the same? [4/10/2019 8:22 PM] denzuko yes [4/10/2019 8:22 PM] robert22 No idea [4/10/2019 8:25 PM] denzuko damn [4/10/2019 8:25 PM] denzuko thanks @Robert [4/10/2019 9:39 PM] canibalcrab It's likely a typo on one or the other [4/10/2019 10:13 PM] yashsedai what is the users name [4/10/2019 10:13 PM] yashsedai i'll take a look [4/10/2019 10:14 PM] canibalcrab @Denzuko.sdf.org ^ [4/10/2019 10:36 PM] stansimmons2031 There is a persistent bug in MM3 that sometimes won't find attach the smartwaiver to the account. I have a little script that will fix that when I input the smartwaiver key and the mm3 account number [4/14/2019 4:59 PM] denzuko @StanSimmons mind sharing that script so I and Brently can fix things on a more permanent basis? [4/14/2019 5:16 PM] stansimmons2031 UPDATE `dms-makermanager`.users SET waiver_id = 'jLubFZxDsA83nMNRSLrGp5' WHERE id = 6291 ; [4/14/2019 5:16 PM] stansimmons2031 I find the waiver id in SmartWaiver and the id in MM3 [4/15/2019 2:59 AM] denzuko smashing. thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [4/19/2019 8:55 PM] draco_the_drake Talk is having issues .... ``` top - 01:53:00 up 19:03, 1 user, load average: 27.32, 27.22, 26.72 Tasks: 179 total, 26 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 40.9 us, 1.4 sy, 1.1 ni, 0.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 56.7 st KiB Mem : 8166948 total, 664176 free, 3982720 used, 3520052 buff/cache KiB Swap: 0 total, 0 free, 0 used. 1812268 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 16976 dnsmasq 20 0 2369256 986.8m 988408 R 12.5 12.4 60:39.31 postmaster 20930 dnsmasq 20 0 2369596 984896 963344 R 12.1 12.1 50:03.95 postmaster 4829 dnsmasq 20 0 2366896 0.980g 983.3m R 11.8 12.6 16:50.93 postmaster 8704 dnsmasq 20 0 2370248 998.0m 977.6m R 11.8 12.5 9:37.19 postmaster 24478 dnsmasq 20 0 2371956 980376 955372 R 11.8 12.0 144:28.93 postmaster 27003 dnsmasq 20 0 2366868 987.6m 992408 R 11.8 12.4 36:43.98 postmaster 28997 dnsmasq 20 0 2367048 983.8m 986680 R 11.8 12.3 32:37.76 postmaster 409 dnsmasq 20 0 2372112 996340 975668 R 11.5 12.2 110:43.07 postmaster 28556 dnsmasq 20 0 2370668 998740 976044 R 11.5 12.2 126:24.52 postmaster 872 dnsmasq 20 0 2369392 1.514g 1.494g R 11.1 19.4 24:23.17 postmaster 8969 dnsmasq 20 0 2366924 994904 976296 R 11.1 12.2 83:47.67 postmaster 12547 dnsmasq 20 0 2369720 1.006g 0.984g R 11.1 12.9 2:34.86 postmaster 4665 dnsmasq 20 0 2370692 1.711g 1.688g R 10.8 22.0 96:30.40 postmaster 12926 dnsmasq 20 0 2371716 0.992g 997.7m R 10.8 12.7 71:40.13 postmaster 22531 dnsmasq 20 0 2369604 843104 822980 R 10.8 10.3 156:18.93 postmaster 23090 dnsmasq 20 0 2367068 0.998g 0.978g R 10.8 12.8 45:37.82 postmaster ``` [4/19/2019 8:55 PM] draco_the_drake @StanSimmons @LukeStrickland [4/19/2019 8:56 PM] clone1018 Unavailable sorry [4/19/2019 8:56 PM] draco_the_drake No worries ... [4/19/2019 8:57 PM] draco_the_drake @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium [4/19/2019 8:59 PM] draco_the_drake Should I reboot? [4/19/2019 9:00 PM] yashsedai postmaster is postgres [4/19/2019 9:00 PM] draco_the_drake yes [4/19/2019 9:01 PM] draco_the_drake The load average seems high [4/19/2019 9:01 PM] draco_the_drake It started after the update [4/19/2019 9:02 PM] draco_the_drake I checked the sidekiq and it wasn't abnormal [4/19/2019 9:03 PM] draco_the_drake I take that back .. there are 5 busy processes [4/19/2019 9:05 PM] yashsedai i'll check vacuum [4/19/2019 9:07 PM] draco_the_drake They are all Jobs::ProcessPost [4/19/2019 9:07 PM] draco_the_drake It doesn't look like they are moving [4/19/2019 9:08 PM] draco_the_drake They all appear to have images [4/19/2019 9:09 PM] draco_the_drake ``` {"post_id"=>339872, "bypass_bump"=>false, "new_post"=>true, "image_sizes"=>{"https://dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/e/3/e393b558ebe27735482bfd36540938d76e60f43c.jpeg"=>{"width"=>"375", "height"=>"500"}, "https://dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/7/e/7e83db84f5ab524acf1ed3850998638b9c778162.jpeg"=>{"width"=>"375", "height"=>"500"}}, "cooking_options"=>nil, "current_site_id"=>"default"} ``` [4/19/2019 9:09 PM] draco_the_drake Perhaps it is trying to resize them? [4/19/2019 9:13 PM] draco_the_drake I think we might should reboot [4/19/2019 9:15 PM] yashsedai i rebooted yesterday [4/19/2019 9:15 PM] yashsedai let me run vacuum [4/19/2019 9:15 PM] yashsedai it is in the same state as i found it yesterday [4/19/2019 9:16 PM] draco_the_drake ok [4/19/2019 9:17 PM] draco_the_drake Bad update perhaps? [4/19/2019 9:17 PM] aceat64 Updates will often cause it to reprocess posts [4/19/2019 9:17 PM] draco_the_drake Yeah, but shouldn't there be more in the queue [4/19/2019 9:18 PM] aceat64 What's sidekiq look like [4/19/2019 9:18 PM] yashsedai sidekiq is clear [4/19/2019 9:18 PM] draco_the_drake ``` 501,407 Processed 218 Failed 5 Busy 247 Enqueued 0 Retries 11 Scheduled 0 Dead ``` [4/19/2019 9:19 PM] aceat64 Still stuff in the queue [4/19/2019 9:19 PM] aceat64 It may grow more, that happened the last few times [4/19/2019 9:20 PM] aceat64 Basically it runs through a particular type of job, then starts to queue more [4/19/2019 9:20 PM] draco_the_drake *nods* [4/19/2019 9:21 PM] draco_the_drake Yeah we are up to 262 Enqueued [4/19/2019 9:22 PM] yashsedai its running its daily digest... [4/19/2019 9:23 PM] draco_the_drake ``` Queue,Size,Latency critical,31,2284.19 default,76,6424.42 low,156,10398.06 ultra_low,0,0 ``` [4/19/2019 9:23 PM] yashsedai look at the scheduled jobs [4/19/2019 9:23 PM] yashsedai it explains what is running [4/19/2019 9:24 PM] draco_the_drake ``` When Queue Job Arguments in 2 days default Jobs::UnpinTopic {"topic_id"=>54382, "current_site_id"=>"default"} in 1 week default Jobs::UnpinTopic {"topic_id"=>54421, "current_site_id"=>"default"} in 1 week default Jobs::UnpinTopic {"topic_id"=>53678, "current_site_id"=>"default"} in 1 week default Jobs::UnpinTopic {"topic_id"=>53796, "current_site_id"=>"default"} in 2 weeks default Jobs::UnpinTopic {"topic_id"=>52922, "current_site_id"=>"default"} ``` [4/19/2019 9:25 PM] draco_the_drake All the critical jobs say Jobs::BotInput [4/19/2019 9:25 PM] yashsedai look under the scheduler [4/19/2019 9:25 PM] yashsedai the issue currently is with a dirty database [4/19/2019 9:25 PM] yashsedai it needs vacuuming [4/19/2019 9:26 PM] draco_the_drake ah ok [4/19/2019 9:26 PM] draco_the_drake Should I ask Logistics? [4/19/2019 9:26 PM] draco_the_drake *snickers* [4/19/2019 9:26 PM] yashsedai lol not that kind a vacuum [4/19/2019 9:26 PM] yashsedai i'll start it here once the analyze is complete [4/19/2019 9:26 PM] draco_the_drake k [4/19/2019 9:27 PM] yashsedai get ready for really slow ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [4/19/2019 9:30 PM] yashsedai whelp talk is broked [4/19/2019 9:30 PM] yashsedai bahaha [4/19/2019 9:55 PM] yashsedai ok [4/19/2019 9:55 PM] yashsedai db is vacuumed [4/19/2019 9:55 PM] yashsedai lets see if the 8 million postmaster processes return [4/19/2019 9:55 PM] yashsedai from what i can read, they shouldnt [4/20/2019 7:11 AM] andrew5152 we've now gone read only... [4/22/2019 6:40 PM] doug.emes ok SmartHumans(tm) - I need to spin up a VM for my new business, maybe eventually run unifi CHR, and a mikrotik CHR on it, and sooner than later UNIMUS (mgmt software for mikrotiks) and some small file storage. Before I go spend $8 month with SSDNODES, any1 willing to help out a neophyte with some lessons alrady learned? [4/23/2019 12:36 AM] hon1nbo what are you doing that makes for a use case for a CHR? [4/23/2019 12:52 AM] doug.emes future planning for VPNs possibly once i have dozens + of customer installs [4/23/2019 12:52 AM] doug.emes right now i have 1 set for monday, as in our 1st install [4/23/2019 12:53 AM] doug.emes the new company i work for is 3 peopls, a sales guy, the proj mgr, and everything else ==> me [4/23/2019 12:54 AM] doug.emes hence on linkedin deservedly self titled CTO [4/23/2019 12:54 AM] doug.emes hoping by 2020 to actually be able to "defend" that title if you will [4/23/2019 12:54 AM] doug.emes SO MUCH TO LEARN [4/23/2019 2:37 AM] hon1nbo that still doesn't answer the question; what's the environment and use case like? [4/23/2019 1:13 PM] doug.emes i deploy physical voip phones at a customer location, and will be installing a physical router (mikrotik hAP AC^2) at these locations for QOS, firewall. i'd like to not use a master singular password for these boxes, but have one for each, and /or use a radius based authentication. next monday is my 1st install. im trying to determine what i should do NOW to mitigate truck rolls in the future. im planning on initially whitlisting the DMS ip as a trusted so I can connect from there to it, until I have some cloud based service (we dont have an office yet, and wont for a while) - with my last emlpoyer that had set up a VPN that would connect to a mikrotik CHR so we could remote into devices anywhere by 1st enabling that vpn. I like that idea, but am looking for 2019 networking / security Subject matter experts (since i am not) to point out the better/best way of doing this for a fledgling start up. environment wise: thikn SOHO business, under a dozen networked devices usually before phones. usage: remote into tik for packet capture, port fwding during troubleshooting to natively access phone, things like that. if im not answering your question, please rephrase it for the newbie please. [4/23/2019 6:30 PM] hon1nbo that's a much better answer to get a picture of what you need. So first I'd advise *against* using a single VPN to hit all these client sites if they are not the same business; it' [4/23/2019 6:30 PM] hon1nbo s the common failing of MSPs that leads to multiple clients being breached [4/23/2019 6:31 PM] hon1nbo what I would instead encourage is setting up a VPN termination on the client site, and then if you want whitelist the IPs for that [4/23/2019 6:32 PM] hon1nbo you can use the mikrotik or other cloud routers, but IMHO for what you want a simple tunnel per site would be better. Set it up with Certificate authentication, and a set of creds per client. That way even if your client-specific cred is somehow compromised, the cert auth is a good fallback [4/23/2019 6:33 PM] hon1nbo you can also setup other forms of 2 Factor Authentication such as TOTP or Duo [4/23/2019 6:33 PM] hon1nbo Duo is super nice, and since you have less than 10 employees it's free (they don't charge until you exceed ten users. Each user can have several account name aliases if the usernames aren't consistent across each site) [4/23/2019 6:34 PM] hon1nbo (my background: professional security consultant and red teamer) [4/24/2019 3:48 PM] agr0090 Not sure how many people used it, but it looks like the dallas.ms domain expired on sunday whois.nic.ms/whois.jsp [4/24/2019 3:58 PM] aceat64 there's a window where it can be reclaimed (assuming we have the logins for the registrar somewhere) [4/24/2019 3:58 PM] robert22 Oops that is on me let me grab it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [4/24/2019 3:58 PM] robert22 Card expired [4/24/2019 4:46 PM] robert22 I was working in AWS 99% sure the quick books server I built sitting in AWS is not being used. I built it for PureTax and then they changed there mind [4/24/2019 4:47 PM] robert22 Can anyone else confirm they are not moving to quickbooks enterprise [4/24/2019 5:42 PM] hon1nbo I'd ping the bookkeeper to confirm if they are using it [4/24/2019 7:03 PM] robert22 Good plan [4/25/2019 7:00 AM] kenpurcell Only know they upgraded to Quickbooks Advanced https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20190318#Upgrade_Quickbooks_software_.28Steve_Blanchard.29 {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20190318 Board of Directors Meeting 20190318 [4/29/2019 4:45 PM] aceat64 @Draco @yashsedai lets talk in here [4/29/2019 4:45 PM] yashsedai sure [4/29/2019 4:45 PM] aceat64 what's the error about certs? [4/29/2019 4:46 PM] yashsedai api.php\": Error: certificate has expired [4/29/2019 4:46 PM] yashsedai thats part of it [4/29/2019 4:46 PM] yashsedai ill have to get it again [4/29/2019 4:46 PM] yashsedai i followed the google fu troubleshooting [4/29/2019 4:46 PM] hon1nbo it's possibly some non-locally stored dependency script [4/29/2019 4:48 PM] yashsedai aye, based on the troubleshooting of errors by others, you should have been able to go to the api page and see cert errors [4/29/2019 4:48 PM] yashsedai ill be back after dinner and look at it again and provide better info [4/30/2019 11:02 AM] lavarocks. Totally off topic, is anyone other than Brandon running for infra chair? [4/30/2019 11:05 AM] kenpurcell Is he running for infra or logistics? [4/30/2019 11:13 AM] andrew5152 logistics https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/im-running-for-logistics-chair-again-may-5th-2019/54402/ [4/30/2019 11:14 AM] andrew5152 nobody's running for infra (that I know of). Stan's explicitly out... https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/infrastructure-committee-meeting-vote-5-8-19/54635 [4/30/2019 11:25 AM] yashsedai I am running for INFRA chair [4/30/2019 11:26 AM] yashsedai Assuming he will accept it, I will ask stan to be my vice [4/30/2019 11:26 AM] lavarocks. Iโ€™m having a dumb day. [4/30/2019 11:27 AM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ‘ on the propaganda... I feel well-informed regarding your campaign. [4/30/2019 11:27 AM] lavarocks. I think youโ€™d be good at infra. Was wondering if you were running when you changed your name on talk. [4/30/2019 11:27 AM] yashsedai lol [4/30/2019 11:27 AM] yashsedai I figured rebranding to a recognizable normal name was useful [4/30/2019 11:27 AM] lavarocks. It does help [4/30/2019 11:27 AM] yashsedai Thanks for the support! [4/30/2019 11:29 AM] yashsedai I have not really advertised, not looking for a talk beatdown ahha [4/30/2019 11:29 AM] yashsedai hahah* [4/30/2019 11:29 AM] lavarocks. Understandable. [4/30/2019 11:29 AM] yashsedai its obviously inevitable, but no need to go seeking it [4/30/2019 11:30 AM] yashsedai I'll be the first to admit I'm not and never will be perfect [4/30/2019 12:05 PM] aceat64 Not with that attitude [4/30/2019 12:31 PM] stansimmons2031 Bwahahaha! [4/30/2019 12:42 PM] yashsedai Ha ha ha [4/30/2019 12:42 PM] yashsedai Where is my trout [4/30/2019 1:28 PM] hon1nbo regarding the original question about Brandon, I know one other person is at least on the fence about running for logistics [4/30/2019 1:28 PM] hon1nbo but AFAIK brandon is the only one that made a formal announcement [4/30/2019 1:32 PM] canibalcrab Correct [4/30/2019 1:44 PM] lavarocks. Interesting [4/30/2019 1:51 PM] canibalcrab I'm sure we will end up with an undeclared runner showing up with a stack of proxies [4/30/2019 1:54 PM] lavarocks. It ainโ€™t gonna be me! [4/30/2019 2:58 PM] hon1nbo I have a talk poll going about turning on Protected Account status for DAs and enforcing 2FA [4/30/2019 2:58 PM] hon1nbo for DAs only [4/30/2019 2:58 PM] hon1nbo discussion open in the thread [4/30/2019 5:06 PM] robert22 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium when you say the interlocks in woodshop are breaking can you give me an example? I monitor for signs of breaking such an increase in denys and I have not seen any red flags. I see daily usage showing they have not stopped working. If there are glitches I want to do a RCA but I donโ€™t have any details of them breaking [4/30/2019 5:08 PM] hon1nbo Just a talk search shows. Everything from loose contacts to when the MQTT wasn't available (which you promptly blamed on us I might add, and despite the claims that the units don't require an internet connection they went down when that one happened too). There are others I don't have a comprehensive list But those situations required one of two people to fix it, which we can't have for critical equipment. We need things that are serviceable in house for all steps of the infrastructure [4/30/2019 5:09 PM] hon1nbo When I was writing that post I found at least 5 cases with a casual search just to make sure I wasn't crazy [4/30/2019 5:14 PM] robert22 Your talking about last year? When AWS IOT service went down? I came into to do network captures because the most likely situation was a firewall change and said about an hour it was not on DMS and it was on AWS. I contacted the AWS development team the same night and they pushed an emergency change to the IOT network to fix there certificate issue. [4/30/2019 5:14 PM] robert22 Finally after that I put in additional code to not wipe the DB until it has all the new updates so that situation will not happen again. [5/2/2019 5:25 PM] limeytx Is the internet not working fully this evening? It seems either super slow, or sporadic [5/2/2019 5:26 PM] limeytx Trying to connect through wifi from purple [5/2/2019 5:26 PM] aceat64 Robert was having issues last night as well, could be an ongoing issue? [5/2/2019 5:26 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/573636499556270080/image0.jpg?ex=67b8fd9f&is=67b7ac1f&hm=b7729d8ca7e3b8c4e07050ed9880dbba8277e245853105e8f9f02a8e9e8d0add& [5/2/2019 5:26 PM] aceat64 :oof: [5/2/2019 5:26 PM] limeytx @StanSimmons anything you know of going on? [5/2/2019 5:27 PM] robert22 Speedtest from 2 nights ago [5/2/2019 5:27 PM] limeytx This is all I'm getting now {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/573636743799111680/JPEG_20190502_172710.jpg?ex=67b8fdd9&is=67b7ac59&hm=f388abaf0878a0c4850361db0c634fdda91e99e53c3f39def3415817ad974c49& [5/2/2019 5:27 PM] limeytx On the positive side, I get to play the dinosaur game [5/2/2019 5:40 PM] hon1nbo @Robert that was just one example. Others have been loose contactors, pickiness with cables being unplugged, etc. I ignored all threads that did not have multiple woodshop user fobs for testing the device [5/2/2019 5:40 PM] hon1nbo and we told you before you even started that we made no firewall changes that could have even possibly impacted those devices, you promptly claimed none of your other customers were affected (despite it being an AWS-wide outage, which says something about your user base) [5/2/2019 5:41 PM] hon1nbo but the key point is that you had to be the person to service the devices [5/2/2019 5:41 PM] hon1nbo and the devices are not robust enough for the requirements [5/2/2019 5:42 PM] hon1nbo as for the other topic about current internet issues no idea. I haven't been there today and I didn't notice an issue whilst I was there yesterday. depending on who is around may be able to look into it a bit later [5/2/2019 5:47 PM] yashsedai I'll check into it when I arrive a bit later [5/2/2019 6:04 PM] robert22 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium we can just agree to disagree [5/2/2019 6:05 PM] robert22 In other news check out these sweet knives {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/573646202487308290/image0.jpg?ex=67b906a8&is=67b7b528&hm=3bba28778f598d8d3330cbeb1e73c931fc14df746479156a4e1629900da62519& [5/9/2019 3:36 PM] aceat64 props to the whole #infrastructure team for fixing the issue with the voting rights app and posting about it on the forums [5/9/2019 4:11 PM] draco_the_drake Meeting minutes https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Committee_Meeting_20190508 {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Committee_Meeting_20190508 Infrastructure Committee Meeting 20190508 [5/9/2019 5:38 PM] doug.emes There were several competent individuals there, and a Doug! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [5/11/2019 8:05 AM] alerho Last night I placed the box of all ballots/proxies into the server closet taped up with my signature and Stan's signature all over it. I dated it as well. I asked Stan last night for camera access to that room. He said he would get to me later. That's fine but I got an email from Kris at 3:13 am asking where the proxies are. The email was sent to me and admin. [5/11/2019 8:06 AM] alerho Has admin been updated to the new board? [5/11/2019 8:33 AM] kenpurcell Not yet but we had some other immediate issues. Thanks to infrastructure bringing a pressing problem to our attention. I'm impressed they made a pretty hard call. [5/11/2019 11:06 AM] draco_the_drake Are the proxies missing? [5/11/2019 11:19 AM] canibalcrab They were in the new server room when we left. That room was chosen because it has rfid access control and camera coverage on it. This was chosen because Alex wasn't comfortable taking it home with himself, and none of the file cabinets could be used at the time. [5/11/2019 11:20 AM] canibalcrab I don't think they are missing or we would have heard more of a fuss [5/11/2019 11:27 AM] draco_the_drake *nods* [5/11/2019 12:57 PM] yashsedai Argh [5/11/2019 12:57 PM] yashsedai What a PITA [5/11/2019 12:57 PM] yashsedai What does Kris need with the proxies anyways [5/11/2019 1:05 PM] draco_the_drake I think she was under the idea that Alex took them home. https://dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/7/b770ed5b5f3b73fb7cf4f50479229abe42bcbab2.png {Embed} https://dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/7/b770ed5b5f3b73fb7cf4f50479229abe42bcbab2.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mtmhRTXo7umxZhvLb939roGXmYO8AjEitNprttueQV4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/7/b770ed5b5f3b73fb7cf4f50479229abe42bcbab2.png [5/11/2019 1:06 PM] canibalcrab That's kinda what I'm thinking [5/11/2019 1:07 PM] canibalcrab But I myself, stan, Alex and Steve were in the admin office when we discussed the file cabinets and server room as an option for storage [5/11/2019 1:16 PM] stansimmons2031 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/576835052361744389/JPEG_20190511_131621.jpg?ex=67b96bc1&is=67b81a41&hm=133b45bd7ec1fda92740634e596a85fa6ad5b42d7ffc403d288e2ffe4bb2dfee& [5/11/2019 1:17 PM] stansimmons2031 Please ignore the mess. ;) [5/11/2019 1:18 PM] draco_the_drake Is that Alex's closet? ๐Ÿ˜› .... I was there when it was decided to put it in the server room. [5/11/2019 2:26 PM] yashsedai Even if Alex had taken them, what business of it was hers [5/11/2019 2:31 PM] draco_the_drake *shrugs* Previous boards are always in the current boards business [5/11/2019 2:31 PM] draco_the_drake Whatever board is in power [5/14/2019 6:15 PM] hon1nbo Disregard, didn't affect 2016 [5/16/2019 2:29 PM] axeonos The server room was decided cause less foot traffic and less stuff inside. Was there too.... waiting and sleepy but I do remember that [5/19/2019 5:50 PM] sewingstuff2561 Hey infra I would like to report cyberzombie for multiple ad hom attacks. [5/19/2019 6:05 PM] yashsedai Seems there aren't any mods available [5/19/2019 6:05 PM] yashsedai I'll take temporary action until they can deal with it {Reactions} dms (2) [5/19/2019 6:08 PM] canibalcrab TIL I can't handle the truth [5/19/2019 6:09 PM] yashsedai lol [5/19/2019 6:09 PM] yashsedai i know i can't some days ๐Ÿ˜› [5/19/2019 6:10 PM] canibalcrab $1 says he makes a new account to come back and yell more [5/19/2019 6:16 PM] sewingstuff2561 Heโ€™s being super extra. To Busby of all people. [5/19/2019 6:18 PM] canibalcrab We really need to stop the "I don't see you at the space" arguments {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [5/19/2019 6:25 PM] sewingstuff2561 Isnโ€™t busby in Woodshop quite a bit anyway? [5/19/2019 6:25 PM] stephenie. There are 2100+ of us. It's possible to be at the Space and not see most people. And unless one lived there, how could you be at the Space enough to qualify? [5/19/2019 7:10 PM] talkers Who is cyberzombie? [5/19/2019 7:11 PM] mizgeek Not it. ๐Ÿ˜ [5/19/2019 7:11 PM] talkers Lol [5/19/2019 7:11 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/579823473866833940/Screenshot_20190519-191107.png?ex=67b91630&is=67b7c4b0&hm=f95ab83c5a6c6e98d7ad4ff0b8a13b4fdb6dc8229ec5b0a316921884ab81683c& [5/19/2019 7:12 PM] nullinterface Thomas Jones per their Talk profile [5/19/2019 7:13 PM] sewingstuff2561 Donโ€™t know the dude but he was going ballistic on Talk. [5/19/2019 7:13 PM] talkers Thanks [5/19/2019 7:14 PM] canibalcrab He's been in metal shop frequently [5/19/2019 7:15 PM] talkers I messaged him [5/19/2019 7:16 PM] yashsedai Thats Scott [5/19/2019 7:16 PM] yashsedai He is commonly working on the very large nissan van and 4runners [5/19/2019 7:18 PM] canibalcrab That's a lot of spaces to take up [5/19/2019 7:18 PM] yashsedai heh [5/21/2019 11:36 AM] aceat64 what's the IP for the VM with the main website and wiki? I want to try to fix the visual editor [5/21/2019 12:00 PM] aceat64 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium @yashsedai @StanSimmons ? [5/21/2019 12:00 PM] canibalcrab He's bored at work [5/21/2019 12:00 PM] yashsedai Lol [5/21/2019 12:01 PM] aceat64 I really am, save me from elasticsearch stuff [5/21/2019 12:05 PM] nullinterface who doesn't love Kibana? [5/21/2019 12:30 PM] aceat64 oh damn, according to the wiki (version page) the server is on PHP 7.0.33, that's kinda old and no longer supported [5/21/2019 12:35 PM] yashsedai Lol [5/21/2019 3:15 PM] robert22 @yashsedai I was looking at the live stream goal [5/21/2019 3:15 PM] robert22 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853834?hl=en {Embed} https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853834?hl=en Restrictions on live streaming - YouTube Help Weโ€™ve recently raised the threshold for YouTube Live with a mobile device. To be able to live stream on mobile, your channel will need to have at least 1,000 subscribers.ย  Note tha [5/21/2019 3:16 PM] robert22 I am going to confirm but I think this is why we canโ€™t live steam on YouTube [5/21/2019 3:16 PM] aceat64 that's just for mobile though, should still work from a PC [5/21/2019 3:17 PM] robert22 Anyone know the type of 360 camera DMS has [5/21/2019 3:17 PM] robert22 Agreed but that means adding a laptop to the mix [5/21/2019 3:18 PM] robert22 We need to confirm if the black magic gear falls under โ€œmobileโ€ or desktop [5/21/2019 3:18 PM] robert22 Also FUCK terrorist for causing this BS [5/21/2019 3:40 PM] doug.emes so sounds like we need a PR campaign for folks to subscribe to the channel, i mean we should be able to hit it before the June board meeting [5/21/2019 3:51 PM] yashsedai Believe they use browser agents to figure this out [5/21/2019 3:54 PM] yashsedai They also note in that article it does not affect desktop or webcam [5/21/2019 3:54 PM] yashsedai The blackmagic box presents as a webcam [5/21/2019 3:55 PM] yashsedai But uses a desktop ๐Ÿ˜› [5/21/2019 4:22 PM] robert22 Also it appeared could not go above 720p on black magic [5/21/2019 4:22 PM] yashsedai ill double check [5/21/2019 4:58 PM] kenpurcell seems that it down converts all video to 720p. That actually may not be a bad thing [5/21/2019 4:59 PM] kenpurcell https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/BlackmagicWebPresenterManual.pdf?_v=1493795328000 [5/21/2019 5:31 PM] draco_the_drake We seem to have a problem with people stealing cables .. like HDMI cables. I think we need to find a way to semi-permanently attach the cables to the TVs and or put things like the splitter in interactive in lockboxes attached to the wall [5/21/2019 5:34 PM] draco_the_drake Perhaps we can find a bracket to run the cable through and attach it to the wall behind the TV? [5/21/2019 5:34 PM] draco_the_drake This also could serve as strain relief [5/21/2019 5:34 PM] doug.emes or drill tap another hole to the mounts, like the vesa style [5/21/2019 5:35 PM] draco_the_drake *nods* [5/21/2019 5:35 PM] draco_the_drake next time I'm up there I will look and see what is easiest [5/21/2019 5:35 PM] draco_the_drake tie wrap to the mount? [5/21/2019 5:40 PM] doug.emes i also like the idea of "floats" / boards / what not to increase the "size" of the splitter, dongles, etc. [5/21/2019 5:40 PM] doug.emes more visibility, can be well documented to tie / remain in a particular classroom ,etc. [5/22/2019 8:51 AM] robert22 I was thinking something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CW4C2HU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?imprToken=JSC0pKxZNQKZNoFet1-uDg&slotNum=0&ie=UTF8&tag=threesixtyc0d-20&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B01CW4C2HU&linkId=54e2c74b980f34f9483b1f601d798323 [5/22/2019 8:54 AM] robert22 With a mobile phone with the intent to be incredibly simple though our existing camera may have this capability. While I agree audio is a concern I think less parts and reduced complexity is more valuable for a mobile solution. [5/22/2019 8:56 AM] robert22 Actually I realized I have a 360fly that may have this capability I will bring it in to try it out. [5/22/2019 8:58 AM] robert22 https://www.fiverr.com/youtubesubbem/give-you-1500-youtube-subscribers-fast [5/22/2019 9:01 AM] robert22 I was thinking of just paying for this personally to add subscribers I realize the ethical concerns but really doing it to provide access to live stream [5/22/2019 9:35 AM] nullinterface ah, fiverr - like MTurk but a bit more highbrow [5/22/2019 9:37 AM] doug.emes honestlythere is zero need to involve outside DMS folks at this point for subscription [5/22/2019 9:37 AM] doug.emes id strongly suggest campaigning inside PR [5/22/2019 9:37 AM] doug.emes if we get 60% (ballpark) of members were done [5/22/2019 9:37 AM] doug.emes and, we also now have an explicit permission granted use of electonic communications with them [5/22/2019 9:41 AM] aceat64 we could also just use twitch instead of youtube [5/22/2019 9:47 AM] doug.emes twitch is wholly inferior as a single publish platform [5/22/2019 9:48 AM] doug.emes if you want to argue about posting to multiple locations, thats something different [5/22/2019 9:55 AM] aceat64 from an ease of stream setup standpoint twitch is typically easier [5/22/2019 9:55 AM] aceat64 though if we just use OBS we can stream to both iirc [5/22/2019 9:56 AM] aceat64 Streamlabs OBS is super simple once setup, just click "Go Live" [5/22/2019 9:56 AM] aceat64 even @pearce can do it ๐Ÿคฃ [5/22/2019 9:57 AM] doug.emes OBS i know streams to youtube/facebook/twitch, but the normal Studio version only streams to 1 selected [5/22/2019 9:58 AM] aceat64 Streamlabs has a fork that's more streamlined and easier to use [5/22/2019 9:58 AM] doug.emes downloading now [5/22/2019 9:58 AM] doug.emes hey, hows the mediawiki fix coming [5/22/2019 9:59 AM] aceat64 hmm looks like it might still just be one at a time [5/22/2019 9:59 AM] aceat64 but at least it'll be easier to stream to youtube [5/22/2019 10:00 AM] aceat64 there's a service called Restream though: https://howto.streamlabs.com/streamlabs-obs-19/restream-and-streamlabs-obs-72 {Embed} https://howto.streamlabs.com/streamlabs-obs-19/restream-and-streamlabs-obs-72 Restream and Streamlabs OBS | How to Stream(labs) First, what isRestream? It is a service to stream to 30+ platforms, including Twitch, Youtube, Mixer and more. Now, here are the steps on how to set up Restream and Streamlabs OBS: Download StreamLabs OBS from StreamLabs' official Download Page Click the Settings Cog fro... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wHKNc4fe0EQSnPJ0dW8SVqEXcIWru6gC4eTXzh0O8BY/https/d1qy7qyune0vt1.cloudfront.net/streamlabs-en/attachment/200x200/8195389c-7987-42a5-8d6c-8172d174121b.png [5/22/2019 10:00 AM] doug.emes laptop + external mic/cam + rfid reader + seome wrappe== profit {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [5/22/2019 10:47 AM] hon1nbo @doug.emes problem with YouTube is we don't meet the requirement for YouTube live currently, and even if we do a drive and break the threshold doesn't mean we will be able to sustain that subscription level and we could end up with a sudden lack of stream. I'd second twitch; easy, functional, I've yet to have a stream through OBS fail [5/22/2019 10:48 AM] doug.emes we should smash the threshold frankly [5/22/2019 10:48 AM] doug.emes !members [5/22/2019 10:51 AM] robert22 How about this I am looking at YouTube now it looks like DMS ha a yi 360 [5/22/2019 10:51 AM] doug.emes id also suggest twitch has a higher % change of being blocked at corp sites over youtube (and offices liketo block youtube, but have found too many vendors etc have real content on it) - alternatively youtube keeps it all branded in a place we have already established [5/22/2019 10:51 AM] robert22 @doug.emes work on getting subscribers [5/22/2019 10:51 AM] doug.emes ill be at PR meeting tonight [5/22/2019 10:52 AM] robert22 I am going to go ahead and place an order at no cost to DMS to start gaining subscribers with bots ya itโ€™s BS but there never going to look at content to make what we currently paid for work [5/22/2019 10:53 AM] robert22 Ultimately the intent we can all agree on is providing more content to the public [5/22/2019 10:56 AM] robert22 I may call them first though [5/22/2019 10:57 AM] robert22 To see if there is a reasonable method [5/22/2019 10:57 AM] robert22 But itโ€™s a good idea to start getting subscribers [5/22/2019 11:00 AM] robert22 On the phone with google business on hold but will see if they have an option. [5/22/2019 11:00 AM] robert22 It sure feels like a short sighted measure to stop people from live streaming terrible things [5/22/2019 11:09 AM] canibalcrab The bot is down for improvents currently [5/22/2019 11:20 AM] doug.emes added a start count to the chat robert and i made sure jen is now subscribed [5/22/2019 11:27 AM] andrew5152 I'm certain this is a stupid question on many levels, but it popped into my head, so I'll throw it out there: can DMS auto-subscribe their g-suite accounts to their youtube channel? Doing so might actually be a good thing for members AND DMS for a vareity of reasons (some might object, too, for same) [5/22/2019 11:33 AM] robert22 I am not sure but itโ€™s a good idea to check into [5/22/2019 11:35 AM] robert22 Looks like we can creat subscribe links [5/22/2019 11:35 AM] robert22 Going to try that now [5/22/2019 11:42 AM] canibalcrab :think: forced subscription seems under the table at best [5/22/2019 11:43 AM] canibalcrab About as good as buying subs [5/22/2019 11:44 AM] canibalcrab I think we should focus on above the board tactics. "Do you want the board meetings or other DMS events live streamed on YouTube? You have to subscribe so we have the opportunity!" [5/22/2019 11:44 AM] canibalcrab My ethics are showing [5/22/2019 11:45 AM] andrew5152 while I don't disagree, if you're subbing an account that is part of your organization, I see it as less distasteful. I wouldn't dream of autosubbing someone's personal acct... [5/22/2019 11:46 AM] andrew5152 I know DMS isn't a job, but to use that comparison, the number of things I'm "subscribed to" by being an employee....๐Ÿ™„ [5/22/2019 11:48 AM] andrew5152 it could also spin as a perk: you've joined DMS, now you get alerts about our yootoob postings in your VERY OWN DMS INBOX!!! ๐ŸŽŠ [5/22/2019 11:56 AM] stephenie. I posted Robert's invite link to the DMS Creative Arts FB page. It's got 783 members, many of who are our most active members. [5/22/2019 12:08 PM] robert22 @A. Spencer(jast) glanced at the google apps admin page and did not find anything or Google fu did not find anything. also it looks like we are not signing up people for emails [5/22/2019 12:08 PM] robert22 But could be wrong about that [5/22/2019 12:11 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿคท seemed like it was worth exploring... [5/22/2019 12:56 PM] doug.emes there are a nonzero amount of members who have dallasmakerspace emails, but we dont have the funds to offer them out blanketly. i COULD subscribe 4 additional youtube accounts besides dougemes@gmail but I'd rather leave the one personal of mine and it be geniune [5/22/2019 1:25 PM] stansimmons2031 Doug, Google has given us enough licenses to give every member a username@dallasmakerspace.org email and we turned it on, we just don't have the manpower to support all of our members, especially the less tech savvy. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ƒ (2) [5/22/2019 1:26 PM] stansimmons2031 Try mail.dallasmakerspace.org and use your DMS username/password [5/22/2019 1:27 PM] stansimmons2031 We use Okta to turn them on and off, but there is a bug on turning them back on after they have been turned off. It is a low priority item to be fixed [5/22/2019 1:34 PM] draco_the_drake @Robert ... can you make sure that the official youtube channel has the account login information on the Admin Wiki? [5/22/2019 1:34 PM] draco_the_drake We have long been missing it [5/22/2019 1:41 PM] denzukoatwork2317 now that's a thing google classroom will be a better option for us than that moodle system which no one uses [5/22/2019 1:44 PM] doug.emes @StanSimmons that's good news, I thought we were limited. Thank you for the correction [5/22/2019 1:49 PM] doug.emes question: have we looked at rocket.chat versus slack etc? based on what we have seen inside pragmattic programmers, im not inclined to push slack ... didnt know it it was worth investigating rocket.chat as yet another RTC platform [5/22/2019 2:20 PM] denzukoatwork2317 @doug.emes adnan was looking into this as well. are we working as a team on this one? [5/22/2019 2:20 PM] doug.emes we will be, i certainly dont wish to duplicate efforts [5/22/2019 2:20 PM] denzukoatwork2317 cool. that's why I brought it up. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [5/22/2019 2:21 PM] denzukoatwork2317 I know he's looking to deploy an instance to the community grid so that might be a good start there [5/22/2019 3:34 PM] nullinterface I've used Slack and HipChat at work - the developers have been able to implement some basic bots for both easily enough [5/22/2019 3:50 PM] stansimmons2031 I don't care for slack and have never looked at rocket.chat. I much prefer async methods. [5/22/2019 3:51 PM] aceat64 Discord is better than slack imo, but no business wants to use a "gaming" chat [5/22/2019 4:42 PM] robert22 @Draco I donโ€™t have access [5/22/2019 4:42 PM] robert22 also I donโ€™t believe YouTube has access controls that use username and password [5/22/2019 4:43 PM] robert22 Itโ€™s based on roles [5/22/2019 4:44 PM] yashsedai hrm [5/22/2019 4:44 PM] yashsedai who does? [5/22/2019 4:44 PM] draco_the_drake I suggest we add backoffice@dallasmakerspace.org as an Owner [5/22/2019 4:44 PM] yashsedai i'll be talking to them haha [5/22/2019 4:44 PM] draco_the_drake it is a google account [5/22/2019 4:45 PM] robert22 Ok I can send it an invite [5/22/2019 4:48 PM] robert22 Back office is not a user [5/22/2019 4:49 PM] robert22 Has a nice little pop up [5/22/2019 4:49 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/580874955902943242/image0.jpg?ex=67b8f4f5&is=67b7a375&hm=1ea2892feb1ae176a4e23daf424707d124e23fd875184245a09e7bff6b9f9489& [5/22/2019 4:51 PM] draco_the_drake Yeah .. I thought about that.. it is a group ... you can add draco@dallasmakerspace.org and then I can get it taken care of with another user when I talk to Stan next [5/22/2019 4:52 PM] robert22 Sure sent you an invite [5/22/2019 4:53 PM] draco_the_drake Thanks [5/22/2019 6:48 PM] yashsedai Could you please add youtube@dallasmakerspace.org [5/22/2019 6:48 PM] robert22 Out for dinner but can when I get back [5/22/2019 9:56 PM] draco_the_drake Thanks @yashsedai .. I forgot you had google admin access [5/22/2019 9:57 PM] yashsedai Yq! [5/22/2019 9:57 PM] yashsedai Yw! [5/22/2019 10:04 PM] aceat64 I fixed the visual editor on the wiki btw {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ† (3) dms (5) [5/22/2019 10:15 PM] andrew5152 what'd ya have to do? [5/22/2019 10:24 PM] aceat64 There's a nodejs service running on the VM that mediawiki proxies requests to, it needs to also talk back to mediawiki to verify some stuff [5/22/2019 10:24 PM] aceat64 But it hits the mediawiki instance via https://localhost [5/22/2019 10:25 PM] aceat64 Which has a cert that's not valid for localhost [5/22/2019 10:25 PM] aceat64 So I changed a config option to ignore invalid certs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [5/24/2019 9:51 AM] michaelb5250 What happened to the users with strikes after the last board meeting? [5/24/2019 10:10 AM] hon1nbo As far as I can tell just using talk, they were allowed back on. However I can't say for certain that was an intervention or if it just happened to expire in the short time [5/24/2019 10:44 AM] stansimmons2031 No change in existing strikes. The 3 strike rule that the Moderators have has been modified somewhat and C Marlow will be posting it when it is ready. [5/24/2019 10:49 AM] michaelb5250 Ok, I was surprised that the people (person?) banned because of the rule weren't allowed back in the interim, that's all. [5/24/2019 10:58 AM] kenpurcell two were banned because they were being difficult and immediately reacted poorly to the strike. One was no longer a member and one was pretty much a troll account. [5/24/2019 11:34 AM] michaelb5250 That sounds like the former member... I work with him and told him I would ask what's up. He can be difficult to deal with.. [5/24/2019 12:33 PM] stansimmons2031 There is a rumor going around that someone applied for a job there... and demanded a wage premium if they had to work with him. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [5/24/2019 12:53 PM] michaelb5250 Lol yes indeed, the hiring guy got a kick out if it [5/24/2019 2:37 PM] judykriehn3727 Question: How current (theoretically) is the document shown below that is linked to the logistics wiki? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/581566385902190612/image0.jpg?ex=67b8d5e7&is=67b78467&hm=f0cd18fc05367ea39faf96bbc22dce0e35f585e8201fd0639f4f8712df4864e5& [5/24/2019 2:38 PM] agr0090 Someone created an AD group of people with personal storage bins? [5/24/2019 2:39 PM] judykriehn3727 I have no idea. Iโ€™ve been trying to help Pearce out with bin auditing. [5/24/2019 2:41 PM] judykriehn3727 Iโ€™ve made an excel map of the current bins with name stickers, Iโ€™ve cross referenced with names on list. But thereโ€™s a lot of weirdness, like for example, you and Merissa are listed on the AD list, but I didnโ€™t find any bins with your names during that process. [5/24/2019 2:48 PM] merissa4308 Ah yeah, we removed our bins since we weren't using them often to free up space [5/24/2019 2:52 PM] mizgeek ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [5/24/2019 4:21 PM] canibalcrab @judy Kriehn I need to get you access to the list so you can cross reference the scans to verify membership {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [5/24/2019 5:28 PM] judykriehn3727 that would be great! If we can actually put the AD list to use - but just get it brought up to date, I think that will be a big help moving forward. Besides Merissa and Brandon, there were two other people on the AD list who didn't seem to have bins (although there was one instance of Christy/Chris that might be the same person) and there is one bin with no identification on it that I can find anywhere. I marked it with a blue tape X. [5/24/2019 6:22 PM] stansimmons2031 The AD group is very out of date, but is about 75% accurate. The folks doing bins since I did them never updated the AD group. I've got a powershell that purges it of non members when I remember to run it [5/24/2019 6:22 PM] stansimmons2031 someone was working on some software to help automate the process, but I'm unsure if it was ever finished [5/24/2019 6:23 PM] stansimmons2031 I have a wireless barcode scanner in the server room to help with the process [5/24/2019 7:05 PM] judykriehn3727 Pearce was going to pick Allen Wan's brain, as he apparently had some role in the process at some point in the past. The labels have QR codes - not bar codes. [5/24/2019 7:18 PM] stansimmons2031 Our scanner does both [5/24/2019 8:20 PM] judykriehn3727 does it generate different information than my iPhone QR code app did? [5/24/2019 8:21 PM] canibalcrab Maybe? [5/24/2019 9:13 PM] stansimmons2031 No, just a string with member info [5/27/2019 8:48 PM] hon1nbo There is an infrastructure in a PM thread on talk. Committee regulars please chime in [5/28/2019 6:06 PM] draco_the_drake When is the next Infrastructure meeting? [5/28/2019 11:42 PM] yashsedai Haven't put one on the schedule yet, something up? [5/29/2019 1:42 PM] mell.jpg @yashsedai I'm cool with dropping all of my calendar admin stuff if that's just the way Infra wants to do it. I'm not trying to cause extra work/trouble. Was just honestly very confused by the BoD approval and Bill's statement that "if you are trusted to be an auditor, you can also be trusted to be an admin" -- I assumed since the BoD passed the item that they agreed. [5/29/2019 1:42 PM] yashsedai To be perfectly clear [5/29/2019 1:43 PM] yashsedai I don't mind one way or the other. I think we just need to figure it out and that will take a small bit of time. [5/29/2019 1:43 PM] yashsedai It is as clear as mud ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [5/29/2019 1:43 PM] mell.jpg hahaha. k. I can get behind that. [5/29/2019 2:15 PM] mell.jpg for what it's worth I think the board should approve auditors and Infra should approve calendar admins. [5/29/2019 4:18 PM] draco_the_drake @mell .. I added you to a discussion on Talk about Calendar Roles [5/31/2019 10:16 AM] hon1nbo are the design computers moved to the new common area as well? I recall something happening with those computers specifically [5/31/2019 10:21 AM] judykriehn3727 As of last night, those three systems were still in place. [5/31/2019 10:23 AM] judykriehn3727 Didnโ€™t take pix of the wall where the design computers and mail pick-up table are/were located. Pearce was planning some stuff relocation today. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/584039354565918721/image0.jpg?ex=67b94349&is=67b7f1c9&hm=acfe2b79b193cec5bba565fbb217ccb66159d8cb3e75850839842b21b4765717& [5/31/2019 11:08 AM] lavarocks. This is absolutely workable. Thank you @pearce and logistics [5/31/2019 11:15 AM] lavarocks. @yashsedai please let me know order details for vinyl so I can pick up the flooring tomorrow on my way in. Thank you!! [5/31/2019 11:16 AM] yashsedai Stan is placing the order, I'll check on it later today [5/31/2019 11:22 AM] lavarocks. You're the best! Sorry to be a pest! [5/31/2019 11:22 AM] lavarocks. I rhymed [5/31/2019 11:31 AM] yashsedai *groan* [5/31/2019 12:09 PM] lavarocks. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/584065812449722378/Peanut.jpg?ex=67b95bed&is=67b80a6d&hm=34fc410fea54ad34f1ffc37e7a1cb0f13f8ca8b7f7a94dc23838e1cd8cd959f1& [5/31/2019 12:16 PM] stansimmons2031 @Lavarocks I've got an order for 77 cases of the #I966106L vinyl pending (they have 126 in stock) Were there any edging, etc that needed to be added to the order? [5/31/2019 12:25 PM] lavarocks. We about ten feet of the transition piece let me get the libk [5/31/2019 12:26 PM] lavarocks. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Zamma-Sterling-Oak-1-3-in-Thick-x-1-13-16-in-Wide-x-72-in-Length-Vinyl-Multi-Purpose-Reducer-Molding-0157623691/301076164 {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/Zamma-Sterling-Oak-1-3-in-Thick-x-1-13-16-in-Wide-x-72-in-Length-Vinyl-Multi-Purpose-Reducer-Molding-0157623691/301076164 Zamma Sterling Oak 1/3 in. Thick x 1-13/16 in. Wide x 72 in. Lengt... The Barnwood 1/8 in. Thick x 1-3/4 in. Wide x 72 in. Length Vinyl Multi-Purpose Reducer Molding is convenient to clean with a damp cloth. It provides a beautiful finished look to any room. It coordinates with vinyl flooring. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kZcCxT7bRKV6mob-kVHpThragLTTsjHb56cPR6Ho-OY/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/f11561f1-22b2-45cf-b6a1-3984289a9a68/svn/sterling-oak-zamma-vinyl-trim-0157623691-64_300.jpg [5/31/2019 12:43 PM] stansimmons2031 I've added two sticks (6ft @) of the transition molding to the the order. [5/31/2019 1:27 PM] lavarocks. Thanks, please make sure it's set for pickup and not delivery. The sticks didn't appear to be available at the local one. [5/31/2019 1:32 PM] stansimmons2031 The sticks are available a the forrest/grissom store. so are 150 of the flooring. I'm having trouble getting tax free to work online with Home Depot. How do you feel about picking me up at DMS and we'll just pay for it at the store? [5/31/2019 1:32 PM] stansimmons2031 when we pick it up [5/31/2019 1:33 PM] stansimmons2031 Nw Dallas #564 11468 Grissom Lane, Dallas, TX 75229 [5/31/2019 1:40 PM] lavarocks. That would be awesome! Can you be avail at 8? I will have donuts [5/31/2019 1:44 PM] stansimmons2031 Text me when you are on the way... I'm assuming 8am tomorrow morning? [5/31/2019 1:51 PM] lavarocks. Yes, unfortunately. Can you e PM me your number [5/31/2019 7:20 PM] draco_the_drake Does this mean we have the fiber done? [5/31/2019 7:22 PM] stansimmons2031 No. The fiber should be done early next week. There won't be wired internet in the new common room until after that is done. [5/31/2019 7:23 PM] stansimmons2031 Creative Arts had a bunch of volunteers available for this weekend, so that drove the schedule for moving the tables [5/31/2019 7:30 PM] yashsedai Received confirmation today the the schedule is changed. Thursday the installer will be there for the fiber. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [5/31/2019 7:43 PM] canibalcrab #growingpains [5/31/2019 7:47 PM] stansimmons2031 Working at the speed of volunteers... usually it is slower... this time it was faster. [5/31/2019 7:48 PM] stansimmons2031 ... for CA at least. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [6/1/2019 3:55 PM] doug.emes Freddy I've cleared with pres. James, classes bill, and arts Shay, you cool with moving design pcs into interactive for 72 hours? We have other drops and clear wall space and minimal class impact [6/1/2019 5:07 PM] doug.emes Design relocated and operational thanks all for your agreement to the temp relocation [6/4/2019 1:35 PM] stansimmons2031 I called Johnson controls (again) to get the leaky RTU fixed. I should have an ETA soon {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/5/2019 12:01 AM] doug.emes Fyi I pulled 4 new drops in new common, showed both Stan and Jim. [6/5/2019 12:02 AM] doug.emes I'll try for this Thursday night to pull some more {Reactions} dms [6/6/2019 7:19 PM] doug.emes Creative arts machine still down. Do we have the password for the local "sadmin" user? [6/6/2019 7:20 PM] doug.emes John has the class in 10. Minutes in theory [6/6/2019 7:34 PM] yashsedai Did u find anyone for this? [6/6/2019 7:46 PM] stansimmons2031 The list of passwords that used to be in the admin wiki have been moved to the community grid.... and I can't login. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [6/6/2019 8:09 PM] andrew5152 *shaking fist at the sky* stupid clouds! [6/6/2019 8:35 PM] draco_the_drake I had thought that the community grid was not to be used for production [6/6/2019 8:36 PM] draco_the_drake That is what we voted upon [6/6/2019 8:36 PM] draco_the_drake We are suppose to be using VMs [6/6/2019 8:58 PM] aceat64 unless the page was deleted (and who the fuck would do that?!) it should still be in the history [6/6/2019 8:58 PM] aceat64 also you can undelete it anyway lol [6/6/2019 8:59 PM] aceat64 Special pages > View deleted pages [6/6/2019 10:07 PM] yashsedai Insanity [6/7/2019 11:10 AM] kenpurcell Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! [6/8/2019 5:53 PM] doug.emes Label List NLC-1 NLC-2 SC-1 SC-2 CM.N1 CM.S1 [6/8/2019 5:54 PM] doug.emes Stands for North Lobby Classroom, Small Conf, Common North, Common S [6/8/2019 5:54 PM] doug.emes all tested and labelled both ends of physical cables, and on side of jacks, and on faceplates {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [6/8/2019 5:55 PM] doug.emes ill pull camera cables next but after my hotwork class with Jim at 7pm [6/8/2019 5:55 PM] doug.emes dinner break [6/8/2019 6:21 PM] yashsedai You sir are my friggin hero [6/8/2019 6:33 PM] doug.emes Tonight I pull camera cables i had to get some eats {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅ‡ (2) dms [6/8/2019 11:00 PM] doug.emes pulls for camera for cleaniningsupplies/storage, for small conf off the commons, and for the north commons wall, just waiting on Jim to finish up welding to lemme back in server closet [6/9/2019 12:03 AM] doug.emes I'm done for the next night or 2. Cables well labelled, have fun putting the cameras in. [6/9/2019 3:09 PM] canibalcrab @StanSimmons try giving me access again [6/11/2019 3:22 PM] denzukoatwork2317 CICD Automation going in place: https://travis-ci.com/Dallas-Makerspace/ansible-automation. I'll be using the deployment ssh key from https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/ansible-automation/settings/keys/new to execute this for tonight's freeipa migration with the jump server and on prem servers [6/11/2019 3:33 PM] yashsedai can we get that in engrish plz? [6/11/2019 3:50 PM] nullinterface Ansible is an orchestration system? [6/11/2019 3:51 PM] yashsedai yes [6/11/2019 3:56 PM] denzukoatwork2317 orchistration, automation, change management. call it what you will but it basically runs "scripts" called playbooks over ssh or wmi to get a machine into a known good state [6/11/2019 3:57 PM] denzukoatwork2317 cicd (ie travis) is the machine executing these playbooks at a schedule or when an update to the playbook has a pull request in github [6/11/2019 3:57 PM] canibalcrab Those were words. [6/11/2019 4:01 PM] denzukoatwork2317 ok.. [6/11/2019 4:01 PM] denzukoatwork2317 https://media.giphy.com/media/1fVelkKf44fVS/giphy.gif {Embed} https://media.giphy.com/media/1fVelkKf44fVS/giphy.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kQMQaP2bR3qAuCCjrqCK1g_vn9B6X0SpazzYVBFbBF4/%3Fcid%3D73b8f7b15d0016bb72354578550d3313%26rid%3Dgiphy_s.gif/https/media1.giphy.com/media/1fVelkKf44fVS/giphy_s.gif [6/11/2019 4:02 PM] denzukoatwork2317 guessing there's a lot of keyboard cowboys here. [6/11/2019 4:02 PM] denzukoatwork2317 No worries; the iron horse isn't going to take your jobs away ๐Ÿ˜‰ one just gets to go faster [6/11/2019 4:03 PM] yashsedai Eh [6/11/2019 4:03 PM] yashsedai one thing right [6/11/2019 4:03 PM] nullinterface tell that to the horses [6/11/2019 4:04 PM] yashsedai before we start pushing out playbooks to get to a known good state, lets have a talk cause i hate makework [6/11/2019 4:05 PM] canibalcrab That was weirdly condescending [6/11/2019 4:05 PM] yashsedai lol which part? [6/11/2019 4:06 PM] canibalcrab Dens last post [6/11/2019 4:06 PM] yashsedai ah [6/11/2019 4:07 PM] canibalcrab Is this something that members are going to need to access or backend stuff to keep stuff running [6/11/2019 4:08 PM] yashsedai its all backend [6/11/2019 4:10 PM] nullinterface @pearce assumption seems to be that the channel is populated by old-school sysadmins or somesuch [6/11/2019 4:12 PM] canibalcrab No that's #computer-committee {Reactions} ๐Ÿ•ถ trollface [6/11/2019 4:38 PM] denzukoatwork2317 nah wasn't meant to be condisendy just get a lot fo people saying automation is going to take away jobs. when they hear the word devops or configuration management, or automation [6/11/2019 4:39 PM] denzukoatwork2317 still got my at work hat on ๐Ÿ˜‰ and these guys here haven't heard of automation until last year [6/11/2019 4:40 PM] denzukoatwork2317 @pearce isn't too far off with the old school sysadmins /sysops but we do have the devops sig too; so.. [6/11/2019 4:41 PM] canibalcrab Oh I'm totally pro automation for a situation like DMS where we rely on volunteers [6/11/2019 4:41 PM] canibalcrab Is there a list of Sig's on the wiki yet? [6/11/2019 4:41 PM] denzukoatwork2317 http://vcc.dallasmakerspace.org [6/11/2019 4:42 PM] denzukoatwork2317 darn... need to get the guys to update the wiki for the devops sig though [6/11/2019 4:42 PM] denzukoatwork2317 and the crypto one too [6/11/2019 4:42 PM] canibalcrab Good lord. Do you need that many sigs? [6/11/2019 4:42 PM] canibalcrab Thanks for the link though [6/11/2019 4:45 PM] denzukoatwork2317 yeah.. vcc computer committee; large topic . that computers are and all; but the core group focuses on educatation material, events, tools for software dev/ai/ml, and projects with the museum being a project. alot of the other stuff is just groups that target specific topics. (bitcoin, infosec, devops, fullstack dev, civic hacking) [6/11/2019 6:08 PM] nullinterface I've watched *provisioning* automation decimate jobs in telecom... but those were departments/work groups being thinned out via attrition, staffed largely by people who refused to change [6/11/2019 6:09 PM] nullinterface Once the departments got small enough the diehards were moved to other departments/work groups [6/11/2019 6:09 PM] nullinterface And the departments/work groups shut [6/11/2019 6:11 PM] nullinterface Some transformation with new jobs created for those lost, but rarely 1:1 or anything close to it [6/12/2019 3:11 PM] hon1nbo the initial policies and procedures doc is on the infrastructure team drive. members of team infra not currently on it need to request access. [6/12/2019 6:11 PM] doug.emes I'd be one of those then [6/12/2019 8:00 PM] doug.emes I wont be onsite till maybe Friday night when the wife takes the chainmail class. I'd like to see us get some drops running / hot for new 3d printing, new electronics, even if it's just to a 8 port dumb switch in those areas for now. [6/12/2019 8:32 PM] judykriehn3727 Jen will have a blast! I really enjoyed the intro class I took from Tony. [6/13/2019 12:56 AM] hon1nbo @doug.emes added [6/13/2019 9:24 AM] doug.emes Received, will start reading it tonight [6/13/2019 10:37 AM] draco_the_drake @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium ... you might read over the Privacy Policy in the rules.. It states this "In compliance with law and our bylaws, DMS will provide Member's names and physical adress only, in response to a valid request for member information." [6/13/2019 10:44 AM] canibalcrab ? [6/13/2019 10:46 AM] draco_the_drake The document talks about information handling. [6/13/2019 10:48 AM] robert22 As a non profit DMS must release member names and address to anyone with a lawful reason [6/13/2019 10:54 AM] yashsedai I don't think there is any arguement about that [6/13/2019 10:56 AM] hon1nbo Place a comment and reference; it's still a draft doc. Additionally we already provide all the addresses for members [6/14/2019 1:40 PM] hon1nbo @doug.emes added you to lucid chart; we need to document the cable routes and drops once we confirm a current floor plan to make it with [6/14/2019 1:57 PM] doug.emes Yes sir. Will do [6/14/2019 1:57 PM] doug.emes And I saw the notice on talk regarding autocad [6/14/2019 2:22 PM] hon1nbo @doug.emes making some initial layouts. do you know how the fiber is run between the server rooms? Does it follow the hallway then over the galley, or does it go over any of CA / Woodshop? [6/14/2019 3:43 PM] doug.emes I don't recall how the fiber is ran, didnt pay attention to it as I was running only cable around new commons [6/14/2019 3:43 PM] doug.emes Bet its hallway galley [6/14/2019 3:45 PM] yashsedai @StanSimmons [6/14/2019 3:57 PM] stansimmons2031 Art helped run the fiber. It goes from the 102 server room west to the galley, then down the front hall, turns west down the south hall and goes int othe 104 server room [6/18/2019 12:13 AM] stansimmons2031 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/590408819624902662/JPEG_20190618_001345.jpg?ex=67b95d0f&is=67b80b8f&hm=0dc685f3cac875f104638dd69b5ec405effbab6a92c974314331e9f7eada917a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ โญ ๐Ÿ˜ [6/18/2019 6:38 PM] robert22 I just locked down LDAP on the external load balancer said I would do it a few months ago but just now had some time. If anything happens let me know and can easily revert but this will get the AD server off the direct internet though the load balancer [6/18/2019 6:47 PM] stansimmons2031 Well, something just broke Calendar logins [6/18/2019 6:52 PM] yashsedai revert the change robert [6/18/2019 6:55 PM] stansimmons2031 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/590690979401564161/php_error.jpg?ex=67b91257&is=67b7c0d7&hm=29c8afc254bc9db3130fa32f74389e2398d72f9fe31529a99d7f5f803a4410fc& [6/18/2019 7:03 PM] canibalcrab Busted [6/18/2019 7:06 PM] hon1nbo why would the calendar be using the ELB? [6/18/2019 7:07 PM] hon1nbo we need to track that down [6/18/2019 7:07 PM] hon1nbo and start documenting these. We have the tools now to help with that [6/18/2019 8:38 PM] draco_the_drake I can check to see what it is using for AD [6/18/2019 8:38 PM] draco_the_drake I think the reason it is using ELB is if PRDC2 goes down there is still PRDC3 [6/18/2019 8:39 PM] robert22 Fixing it now [6/18/2019 8:39 PM] draco_the_drake What do you want me to change it to .... PRDC2 or 3? [6/18/2019 8:39 PM] draco_the_drake You also need to change makermanager [6/18/2019 8:39 PM] draco_the_drake and makermanager4 [6/18/2019 8:40 PM] robert22 Done [6/18/2019 8:42 PM] robert22 If you give me the source I can at a min whitelist [6/18/2019 8:43 PM] draco_the_drake Source? [6/18/2019 8:43 PM] draco_the_drake I'm not certain what you mean? [6/18/2019 8:43 PM] draco_the_drake The source is out on GitHub and on the servers [6/18/2019 8:44 PM] stansimmons2031 Calendar login working now [6/18/2019 8:47 PM] draco_the_drake Do you want me to reconfigure the calendar? [6/18/2019 8:47 PM] robert22 Servers public IP address [6/19/2019 2:17 AM] hon1nbo @Draco we need to be using an internal load balancer, not en external one [6/19/2019 6:33 PM] doug.emes Enroute [6/20/2019 10:04 AM] denzukoatwork2317 had a meeting conflict. hopefully there are some minutes for one to review [6/21/2019 5:31 PM] doug.emes I need to reimagine upwards of 40 Dell's from win7 enterprise back down to individual win7pro licenses onthe stickets [6/21/2019 5:33 PM] doug.emes Need a poniet on doing the build of the image where we can install 7 with whatever updates slic'd in al re ady etc [6/21/2019 5:37 PM] draco_the_drake Well.. do you need help brainstorming? [6/21/2019 5:37 PM] draco_the_drake ๐Ÿ˜› [6/21/2019 5:40 PM] draco_the_drake Sometimes I hate autocorrect [6/21/2019 5:40 PM] draco_the_drake That does sound like a lot of PCs ... why windows 7? [6/21/2019 5:51 PM] stansimmons2031 I've got a Win7Pro image, but it isn't current on the updates [6/21/2019 5:52 PM] stansimmons2031 If you have a Dell ISO for that model, I can help you update it. [6/21/2019 6:47 PM] doug.emes Has to do with Ericsson proprietary aoftware [6/21/2019 6:47 PM] doug.emes Its damn finicky [6/21/2019 6:48 PM] doug.emes I'm still going to also make some win10 examples that are consumer facing/styled versus the corporate "modern" image [6/21/2019 6:48 PM] doug.emes Which makes me use Citrix to a remote to do many of the tesources6 [6/22/2019 1:12 AM] doug.emes Bedtime, stan is graciously going to try to keep making the slipstream, and I'm making the brute force, to then being sysprep. Uodates to follow on Sunday [6/22/2019 8:50 AM] aceat64 When we re-enable retort, can we put ๐Ÿ™„ as one of the options? [6/24/2019 3:20 PM] adam1334 Not that it's a huge deal, but on Saturday, the board chose to expel one member in a regular meeting and another in a separate emergency meeting (I assume because it wasn't on the agenda in time). I have noticed on Talk that one member has been marked as such, but the other has not? Probably just an oversight, and not a huge deal as the other person does not seem to be terribly active at this point. [6/24/2019 3:33 PM] canibalcrab Hmm [6/24/2019 3:33 PM] canibalcrab @board members would be the ones to decide that [6/24/2019 3:34 PM] lavarocks. @Lampy (Ken Purcell) [6/24/2019 3:38 PM] kenpurcell Which was not marked on TALK? [6/24/2019 3:41 PM] stansimmons2031 Narkane (John T.) is still a Talk member, but not marked as a DMS member {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/24/2019 4:12 PM] merissa4308 Don't bans cover both the physical and online space? [6/24/2019 5:27 PM] kenpurcell Is John T's username really Narkane? [6/24/2019 5:39 PM] draco_the_drake Yup [6/24/2019 5:39 PM] draco_the_drake You mean you didn't know he works for the police department undercover? [6/24/2019 5:39 PM] draco_the_drake *snickers* [6/24/2019 9:19 PM] yashsedai lol, dont confuse it with narcan [6/24/2019 9:20 PM] yashsedai but pun intended maybe [6/25/2019 9:05 AM] kenpurcell Well I got the joke. I hope he recovers well. [6/25/2019 5:08 PM] doug.emes How high does our tool reach for the above the ceiling tile install stuff? [6/25/2019 5:11 PM] canibalcrab The lift? I believe it can reach the actual roof [6/25/2019 5:46 PM] doug.emes No the polearm looking tool [6/25/2019 5:46 PM] doug.emes Didnt know if it had an extension in it like a painting pole [6/25/2019 5:58 PM] michaelb5250 Pretty sure it reaches to the rafters [6/25/2019 6:01 PM] doug.emes Cool I'm headed over [6/25/2019 6:51 PM] hon1nbo @doug.emes when I get back in town I can also help get you going on the personnel lift if required [6/26/2019 10:33 PM] andrew5152 @yashsedai did you guys (Infra) know that TALK now shows DMS Username ? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/593645131815714837/unknown.png?ex=67b9459c&is=67b7f41c&hm=d010e05e7e1a0b8909b75988a6545bb62433228731e36d9d2a8efa80e2ed0d1e& [6/26/2019 10:43 PM] yashsedai aye [6/26/2019 10:43 PM] yashsedai for some it does [6/26/2019 10:45 PM] andrew5152 OK. Just wondered if you knew, it was intentional, etc. Seems weird to me, but... not my fox to hunt... [6/26/2019 10:56 PM] lavarocks. Your username is paddle? [6/27/2019 5:56 AM] andrew5152 MINE? no. but that person's is... [6/27/2019 9:51 AM] judykriehn3727 Is their plus one โ€œmeโ€? Or maybe in honor of Clutch Cargo, โ€œfootโ€? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [6/27/2019 9:57 AM] andrew5152 dunno. a minimal of detective work will tell you all I know about said individual, who, actually, just happened to be the first one I pulled up for the demo, rather than significant in any other way... Clutch Cargo. How have I never heard of this? It's awesome! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTQI_XjoSSY {Embed} PizzaFlix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTQI_XjoSSY Clutch Cargo: The Case of Ripcord Van Winkle This animated cliff-hanger serial centers on Clutch Cargo, a writer and pilot who is sent around the world on dangerous assignments! Accompanying him are his... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xsjfPxnY5_ctzP85Hr_DPNYnyQ800yNKZT8DF8CCg5I/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/UTQI_XjoSSY/hqdefault.jpg [6/27/2019 10:19 AM] nullinterface *Clutch Cargo* - where the budget is low and so was the bar for entry into the then still somewhat novel market of *children's cartoons* [6/27/2019 11:44 AM] judykriehn3727 I donโ€™t know how you could have missed it. Moving human lips superimposed on cartoon characters; and it still looked like Japanese lip sync. [6/27/2019 1:14 PM] nullinterface 1959-1960. Syndicated in five daily 5-minute *chapters* a week that could be stitched together into 30 minute episodes. [6/27/2019 1:15 PM] andrew5152 hm. That DOES pre-date my TV watching _slightly_ [6/27/2019 1:15 PM] nullinterface same [6/27/2019 1:16 PM] andrew5152 still seems like something I should have heard of. Stupid sub-prime rearing. Stupid sub-prime social circles... [6/27/2019 1:18 PM] mizgeek I was a child in the 60s and I saw it on some UHF channel in Dallas area [6/27/2019 1:21 PM] nullinterface Think I caught it randomly on *Comedy Central* in a previous decade, remembered it from occasional conversations with older relatives [6/27/2019 8:30 PM] judykriehn3727 It was on at weird early morning times-like 6:30 am on channel 11/KTVT, here in Dallas in mid-60โ€™s as I recall. Then it appeared on UHF stations when I was in jr high. The guys in my art class were obsessed with memorizing the dialogue. [6/27/2019 8:43 PM] hon1nbo it only shows if you put it in, and there isn't validation of any kind. We've had people put in fake usernames [6/27/2019 9:46 PM] judykriehn3727 So @jast can relive his childhood by becoming a fake Clutch Cargo, Spinner or Paddlefoot. [6/27/2019 10:23 PM] michaelb5250 @yashsedai the workshop door is working again. However, the woodshop door latch is now broken, we'll need to order a new one. [6/27/2019 10:24 PM] yashsedai thanks, any idea what happened? [6/27/2019 10:24 PM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/594005214244110337/JPEG_20190627_222436.jpg?ex=67b94377&is=67b7f1f7&hm=60f3445546f1af7baf76138e03b474bdaef0e726d1ce390c4a7849d3becb7fbf& [6/27/2019 10:24 PM] michaelb5250 I assume it just wore out. Probably been here since we moved [6/27/2019 10:25 PM] yashsedai ah [6/27/2019 10:25 PM] michaelb5250 Just to be clear, I swapped the latch between woodshop and workshop. Since the woodshop door never closes properly anyways [6/27/2019 10:26 PM] yashsedai wow, thats actually a high quality latch [6/27/2019 10:26 PM] yashsedai adams rite [6/27/2019 10:29 PM] michaelb5250 Huh. Well the coil read open on the busted one. I wonder how many cyclee it was good for [6/27/2019 10:31 PM] stansimmons2031 I think I have another one. I'll check tomorrow [6/27/2019 10:36 PM] michaelb5250 @StanSimmons lol I was just on my way to bug you about that. [6/28/2019 9:14 AM] kenpurcell Thanks @michaelb, @StanSimmons & @yashsedai appreciate ya'll keeping things working. [6/28/2019 9:32 AM] andrew5152 so.. retorts got pulled off Talk? โ˜น [6/28/2019 9:40 AM] andrew5152 also wondering if we've looked into ACH payments instead of cutting checks... I can't help but think cutting and mailing checks is expensive (and kind of a PITA)... @Lampy (Ken Purcell) [6/28/2019 9:42 AM] aceat64 Seems like emojis are still there [6/28/2019 9:42 AM] kenpurcell We have but there are some other adjustments that are happening in the bookkeeper realm first. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/28/2019 9:46 AM] andrew5152 can see old retorts, cannot post new... at least for me... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/594176701622386698/unknown.png?ex=67b93a6c&is=67b7e8ec&hm=86c4f8769b6d2c94d5694292dcf0dd9ae08765453a286e202364c58f319ef8c1& [6/28/2019 10:27 AM] aceat64 Maybe there's a limit to how many you can use in a day and you hit it lol [6/28/2019 2:23 PM] andrew5152 Could be. My ability has returned... [6/28/2019 2:37 PM] kentamanos how many yams were you giving out!? ๐Ÿ  [6/28/2019 2:46 PM] sewingstuff2561 Itโ€™s like Thanksgiving on Talk [6/28/2019 3:09 PM] yashsedai There was a limit, I increased it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/28/2019 3:23 PM] lavarocks. Dont yam shame us [6/29/2019 1:08 PM] judykriehn3727 If it's thanksgiving, dibs on the wishbone. [6/29/2019 8:32 PM] michaelb5250 @StanSimmons @pearce y'all got any ideas where we keep new fluorescents? All I see in 102 is recycle boxes and it looks like the logistics shelf in 104 is full of dead ones? [6/29/2019 8:39 PM] canibalcrab The 104 shelf shouldnt all be bad [6/29/2019 8:39 PM] canibalcrab I'm not sure what the 102 stash is. There's a bunch in metal shop @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium might be able to spare for the classroom [6/29/2019 8:41 PM] hon1nbo We need to set some aside for the really bad fixtures in the back, but we could probably spare some of it to get the lecture hall going for now [6/29/2019 8:41 PM] hon1nbo I just got groceries. After I make some dinner I can head to the space and set the lift up [6/29/2019 8:43 PM] canibalcrab Awesome. We are getting food and then I'm going head up as well [6/29/2019 8:55 PM] michaelb5250 Alright, we have two known good bulbs, they behave differently based on which location they're in. [6/29/2019 8:56 PM] michaelb5250 I'm running to home Depot for a box of tubes and a handful of ballasts [6/29/2019 8:57 PM] michaelb5250 Unless we want to jump straight to LEDs [6/29/2019 8:57 PM] canibalcrab The hope was to swap the whole space to led @michaelb [6/29/2019 8:58 PM] canibalcrab If ballasts is easier for you we can do that [6/29/2019 8:59 PM] stansimmons2031 The 102 room had a box of 8 tubes at one point... it looks to have already been pilfered. [6/29/2019 9:05 PM] michaelb5250 I'll grab a box of traditional bulbs, and supplies to switch a handful to LEDs. [6/29/2019 9:08 PM] canibalcrab Check the logistics shelf for swap supplies. You may only need wires [6/29/2019 9:09 PM] michaelb5250 @StanSimmons can you check? Already at home depot [6/29/2019 9:12 PM] stansimmons2031 I didn't think we had any LED tubes. Unless Metal Shop had some left over from their change out. [6/29/2019 9:15 PM] hon1nbo We have wire etc on the man lift [6/29/2019 9:15 PM] hon1nbo Check it first. [6/29/2019 9:15 PM] hon1nbo Or on the metal shop pile. We bought some good sized spools, and there are likely tombstones though if not grab some of those since it's what we need (non-shubted stones) [6/29/2019 9:16 PM] hon1nbo We should have plenty of LEDs since we never finished the middle row. [6/29/2019 9:16 PM] hon1nbo Likely Not enough for all of lecture but enough to get it going with the bad fixtures first and get some good light in [6/29/2019 9:20 PM] michaelb5250 Alright, to avoid a huge mess, I've got standard tubes and a few ballasts. I don't mind doing the LED conversion if we have supplies. Between everything we should be able to light the room better than it is currently. [6/29/2019 9:47 PM] judykriehn3727 Thank you guys! [6/30/2019 12:35 PM] imreii anyone know why I can't enroll myself in any courses ? [6/30/2019 12:35 PM] imreii {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/594944178383749156/2cb3b3c9280db652e106950d6e7fa388.png?ex=67b96231&is=67b810b1&hm=dc2c6598b097704b2dd1b8ff688eed1e9644396b2c8e314cda7990715284ee36& [6/30/2019 12:49 PM] canibalcrab Maybe needs a prerequisite? [6/30/2019 12:55 PM] imreii Every class except for 3d fab basics is this way for me [6/30/2019 12:55 PM] imreii where would I go to see the prereqs? [6/30/2019 1:09 PM] canibalcrab I have no idea then. Doesn't sound like a prereq issue [6/30/2019 2:41 PM] hasteur1068 @infrastructure chair is there a specification for the rfid access tags I need to follow. Need to replace my tag because the plastic holding it to the keyring has broken [6/30/2019 2:44 PM] yashsedai If you come up, we will be happy to give you a new one free of charge [6/30/2019 3:10 PM] judykriehn3727 @reii - I assume you have logged into your DMS account before attempting to enroll? [6/30/2019 3:38 PM] imreii @judy Kriehn yes [6/30/2019 3:51 PM] hon1nbo also who is teaching that KMG class? My understanding is that blacksmithing doesn't teach it except in the 101. They've informed other teachers trying to teach it separately or as part of another class that it's not kosher [6/30/2019 3:51 PM] hon1nbo also wait [6/30/2019 3:51 PM] hon1nbo what system is that? [6/30/2019 7:18 PM] andrew5152 I'm 80% sure the 3d printing is the only class available for self-enrolment (or at all, for that matter, to my recollection...) all others on https://learn.dallasmakerspace.org/ are "in progress" [6/30/2019 10:25 PM] andrew5152 @yashsedai I think the retort limit needs raised again. I'm "out", and have used hardly any today... PS the stupid nag boxes for "first post" really sucks, in my opinion... [6/30/2019 10:55 PM] yashsedai Lol [7/1/2019 12:43 AM] judykriehn3727 Nag boxes? Is that momilies like โ€œwhat would you do if your face froze like that?โ€ [7/1/2019 5:38 AM] andrew5152 yes, but uselesser and annoyinger: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/595201517313851432/unknown.png?ex=67b9005c&is=67b7aedc&hm=3b651914617618287b51429f6dc0568130724d32043a7f3076f539a316b53714& [7/1/2019 9:39 AM] judykriehn3727 Ah! Iโ€™d wondered what was up with those. We could also call them โ€œwhineโ€ boxes, since itโ€™s often the obligatory โ€œwhy arenโ€™t there any xyz classes?โ€ [7/3/2019 4:46 PM] canibalcrab trying to log into talk with google seems to be broken [7/3/2019 4:46 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/596094459003928617/unknown.png?ex=67b8f439&is=67b7a2b9&hm=a2c03bc2092bbd22c74ac0a0e98aede688d7d83c15a707d36746424a3369f7ba& [7/3/2019 4:49 PM] aceat64 I've had that happen, refresh seems to fix it [7/3/2019 4:49 PM] yashsedai stop breaking things [7/3/2019 4:49 PM] yashsedai jeez [7/3/2019 4:49 PM] aceat64 Could also be a browser plugin blocking stuff [7/3/2019 4:49 PM] canibalcrab new browser [7/3/2019 4:50 PM] canibalcrab fresh install so i have to log back into everything [7/3/2019 5:08 PM] denzukoatwork2317 @pearce next time one gets that could we have a saml tracer log? [7/3/2019 5:08 PM] canibalcrab :think: [7/3/2019 5:08 PM] canibalcrab no habla [7/3/2019 5:08 PM] denzukoatwork2317 sorry, work hat. oauth tracer [7/3/2019 5:08 PM] denzukoatwork2317 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rcfederation-saml-ws-fed/hkodokikbjolckghdnljbkbhacbhpnkb?hl=en {Embed} https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rcfederation-saml-ws-fed/hkodokikbjolckghdnljbkbhacbhpnkb?hl=en rcFederation SAML, WS-Fed and OAuth tracer Traces and decodes all SAML, WS-Federation and OAuth (OIDC) messages. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/459Bi9f5UvSrs6a91q2gpRpCpwfoQSjANQ8WoJt9AlM/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/YQhM2kT6RYnQmA86P3LVsCgi4VGbzrAoXYsKuJuo35peMTM7ljwdj0Ad-dchtDK8vaWAf7Ea%3Dw128-h128-e365 [7/3/2019 5:09 PM] denzukoatwork2317 been using it alot on this okta migration and it helps to debug the root cause [7/5/2019 5:26 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/596829325387497485/unknown.png?ex=67b8fd9f&is=67b7ac1f&hm=619f0c51adb61f9fd47f0aec0ee488f7dae9b68db1bdccb000a087fb97e2ca9c& [7/5/2019 5:37 PM] stansimmons2031 Try again, not seeing any issues on this end [7/5/2019 5:37 PM] canibalcrab The software powering this discussion forum encountered an unexpected problem. We apologize for the inconvenience. Detailed information about the error was logged, and an automatic notification generated. We'll take a look at it. No further action is necessary. However, if the error condition persists, you can provide additional detail, including steps to reproduce the error, by posting a discussion topic in the site's feedback category. [7/5/2019 5:38 PM] canibalcrab the error blames the forum software [7/7/2019 3:00 PM] aceat64 Box of Chromebooks was placed in the new server room, they need to be labeled, charged and setup for use, might be a good project for someone [7/8/2019 2:58 PM] denzukoatwork2317 @yashsedai looks like that request is in the database. I'll gladly change code that can be unit tested and so forth. But not a live production database [7/8/2019 2:58 PM] denzukoatwork2317 paid is the field [7/12/2019 8:08 PM] canibalcrab -request for "self teaching" category on the events page, with links to online training classes [7/12/2019 8:09 PM] canibalcrab from member meeting. @aceat64 understands the request [7/12/2019 8:13 PM] aceat64 I claim to understand it [7/12/2019 8:13 PM] aceat64 We'll find out if I actually do [7/12/2019 9:06 PM] michaelb5250 When did the censor get dropped from talk? I posted expecting boxes and instead got what I wrote [7/12/2019 9:08 PM] canibalcrab Few weeks ago? [7/12/2019 9:11 PM] aceat64 Time to spam curse words [7/12/2019 9:18 PM] michaelb5250 On an old phpbb instance we would replace curse words with 'butterfly'. It was a riot. [7/12/2019 9:21 PM] canibalcrab "cloud to butts" is probably my favorite chrome plugin to forget about [7/12/2019 9:22 PM] canibalcrab It replaces "cloud" with "butt" whoda thought? [7/12/2019 9:23 PM] canibalcrab If I logged into discord from browser one of our clan mates names would change to geekgoddessbuttstorage [7/12/2019 10:18 PM] andrew5152 Bob's request has an open thread on talk, if that helps... [7/12/2019 10:19 PM] andrew5152 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/location-needed-for-listing-self-study-classes-march-26-2019/53355 [7/13/2019 8:14 PM] andrew5152 feeling the need to point out to @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium that mere mortals can NOT message @Board_of_Directors on Talk: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/599770756741857300/unknown.png?ex=67b9250b&is=67b7d38b&hm=3573ac4d2359f5da9a2898d08a6a39f0646ed85c122e0a42ffa838bb25b5d0d6& [7/13/2019 8:15 PM] andrew5152 note once the "oh" is put in, no auto-popup suggestions {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/599770981866668043/unknown.png?ex=67b92541&is=67b7d3c1&hm=d6c5360b9293edbe6971a972444e1ac790e4d4d1d77990a74847644cf97a3662& [7/13/2019 8:16 PM] hon1nbo My hon1nbo account is not special [7/13/2019 8:16 PM] hon1nbo It doesn't autofill, but that's a regular user I send it as [7/13/2019 8:17 PM] hon1nbo I have a separate admin account on talk [7/13/2019 8:17 PM] andrew5152 I dunno. But it IS in that particular aspect, if it's working like that for you. Might be your chair position... [7/13/2019 8:18 PM] hon1nbo Shouldn't be AFAIK. @aceat64 know of anything in Discourse that can trigger that? [7/13/2019 8:18 PM] andrew5152 hm. Well, I"m not going to spam them with test messages, but as far as I know, "we" can't see, and can't send to them that way. Maybe I AM wrong. Not like I have cause to "try it out"with any frequency... [7/13/2019 8:19 PM] hon1nbo I mean it doesn't autofill for me, I always have to type it out completely manually [7/13/2019 8:21 PM] andrew5152 hm. Well. I'll shut my fat yap, then. If I ever need it I'll remember to let ya know how it goes. ๐Ÿ˜„ [7/13/2019 8:22 PM] andrew5152 I can't find the OTHER thread where someone was bitching about it not working anymore, either... Anywho. Letting it go. [7/13/2019 8:51 PM] aceat64 Groups can be set so that people can't message then iirc [7/13/2019 10:03 PM] judykriehn3727 I send pms to the board at large and wasnโ€™t anything special before I did so [7/13/2019 10:04 PM] judykriehn3727 That should be PMs. Not PMS. I suspect there are people more annoying than I who serve that purpose [7/13/2019 10:15 PM] yashsedai lol [7/15/2019 2:44 PM] aceat64 for anyone that wants to help write code for the calendar, I've written a Development Quickstart Guide, so it's super easy to get started now: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar#development-quickstart-guide {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar Dallas-Makerspace/calendar Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/calendar development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [7/15/2019 3:18 PM] draco_the_drake There is code in the development branch that hasn't been put into production yet [7/15/2019 3:20 PM] draco_the_drake Two things ... one, it shows what AD groups are required or what AD groups a class fulfills. And two, it allows non-paid classes to be re-signed up after cancelling [7/15/2019 3:50 PM] aceat64 if it's ready to be merged, please make a PR: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/compare/development?diff=split&expand=1 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/compare/development?diff=split&expand=1 Dallas-Makerspace/calendar Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/calendar development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [7/15/2019 5:59 PM] draco_the_drake Well, someone will need to test it on the dev server .... https://calendar-dev.dallasmakerspace.org [7/15/2019 5:59 PM] draco_the_drake That is why it is not merged at the moment [7/15/2019 7:06 PM] robert22 What was the company used to send letters [7/15/2019 7:06 PM] robert22 To members [7/15/2019 8:08 PM] doug.emes I'm, yeah dev version doesnt render correctly on my android phone, it's not flowing with the screen layout [7/15/2019 8:10 PM] doug.emes Ie it is ok in landscape because the bug is on the right, but in portrait the burger is on the left and its showing off screen [7/15/2019 8:14 PM] doug.emes I submitted a test event [7/15/2019 8:15 PM] doug.emes I can actually do some actual better aut Wednesday night [7/15/2019 9:45 PM] judykriehn3727 Company? I was under the impression that Steve B, David Kissinger and a few others printed, collated, and folded the mailing, stuffed the envelopes, added address labels and stamps, and took to post office. If you need to do a bulk mailing, Nicks mom, Betty Sainz, owns Multiforms, and that is one of the services they provide. The Quilterโ€™s Guild of Dallas has been using them for our membership mailing for several years now. [7/15/2019 9:54 PM] doug.emes USPS or ups had options for single sheet mailings, I don't recall which one. [7/16/2019 6:57 PM] kaze0013 Is anyone around who can poke the billing system with something sharp and pointy? [7/16/2019 7:00 PM] stansimmons2031 What trouble are you having? [7/16/2019 7:00 PM] kaze0013 Recurring troubles... I have an active ticket number if that helps? [7/16/2019 7:02 PM] kaze0013 The short of it is that the billing system absolutely hates me and has since I moved back and reactivated my account. [7/16/2019 7:03 PM] stansimmons2031 Sure, I'll look at it when I get done with the expansion meeting. [7/16/2019 7:03 PM] kaze0013 Ticket 263027. Freddy C has been working it... Itโ€™s a bit of a huge ugly mess. [7/16/2019 7:59 PM] yashsedai i've taken care of it [7/16/2019 8:13 PM] kaze0013 Thank you! Remind me to buy you a soda/coffee/whatever. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [7/16/2019 8:30 PM] yashsedai lol not necessary, much appreciate your patience! [7/16/2019 8:42 PM] michaelb5250 I like the talk maintenance page [7/16/2019 8:46 PM] draco_the_drake Stan and I made that back when we were upgrading everything ... Stan's idea mainly [7/16/2019 8:46 PM] draco_the_drake that was like a year ago now [7/20/2019 3:25 PM] kaze0013 Is anyone here who can help with my badges? [7/20/2019 3:44 PM] aceat64 @Kaze what's up? I can probably walk your through an issue [7/20/2019 3:45 PM] kaze0013 We've already left. [7/20/2019 3:46 PM] kaze0013 I updated the existing biking ticket with the latest problem. [7/20/2019 3:47 PM] kaze0013 Thank you though [7/20/2019 3:47 PM] aceat64 ah ok, I don't have access to the billing tickets [7/20/2019 3:47 PM] aceat64 if you just need to fix a non-working RFID, makermanager lets you do some self-service stuff [7/20/2019 3:47 PM] aceat64 https://accounts.dallasmakerspace.org/makermanager/ [7/20/2019 3:47 PM] kaze0013 Nope. It's broken for me. [7/20/2019 3:48 PM] aceat64 won't let you login? [7/20/2019 3:48 PM] kaze0013 Log in, yes. Says "no badges are configured or available" [7/20/2019 3:49 PM] aceat64 weird [7/20/2019 3:49 PM] stansimmons2031 Which addon do you want active, Chris or Daniel? [7/20/2019 3:49 PM] kaze0013 Me and Chris [7/20/2019 3:50 PM] kaze0013 Daniel lives in Phoenix now [7/20/2019 3:51 PM] stansimmons2031 You and Chris are both showing blank badges. If you can email in your 10 digit badge numbers to accounts@dallasmakerspace.org, I'll activate them. Or you could go to MakerManager and do it yourself now. I had to resynchronize MM with the billing system {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/20/2019 3:55 PM] stansimmons2031 never mind, found them in the ticket [7/20/2019 3:55 PM] kaze0013 I added them. Thanks, Stan. Chris will check Monday if his works [7/20/2019 3:55 PM] stansimmons2031 Very good! I'll close the ticket. [7/20/2019 3:56 PM] kaze0013 Okay [7/21/2019 6:06 PM] doug.emes Pulled 8 cables today to common, 4 to wall next to small conf and 4 to left side where we will need to drill down holes for both. Nothing labelled but the bundles are taped. I'll be onsite Tuesday night {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) โค (2) dms (3) ๐Ÿ‘ [7/24/2019 1:34 PM] hon1nbo @doug.emes any idea when you can start documenting the cables on LucidChart? [7/24/2019 1:34 PM] hon1nbo we need the routes and endpoints [7/24/2019 2:18 PM] stephenie. The laser kiosk's employee code is stored in the admin wiki [7/24/2019 6:57 PM] doug.emes yes iou that [7/24/2019 8:42 PM] denzuko anyone have a suggestion for good cd mastering software that allows on to take a folder and custom made cue file to master a cd or make a .bin file for mastering afterwards? [7/26/2019 12:26 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/604363991300571136/Screenshot_2019-07-26-12-26-00.png?ex=67b96014&is=67b80e94&hm=ed8f0385f53d107b07c86bb5ac56eea8ccee80d0260ab7b7724855a834b1d9b3& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/604363991300571137/Screenshot_2019-07-26-12-26-18.png?ex=67b96014&is=67b80e94&hm=00a2d089b2efaf21dc6c916d6069f35ea1a21863d5f5cb02f7b9eb2670a07b95& [7/26/2019 12:27 PM] talkers Time to remove this. Classes should be allowed to be submitted. [7/26/2019 12:41 PM] hon1nbo @yashsedai @board members can we just go ahead and set the official policy to re-enable this 6 days (or 10) toward the end of the month? (whatever the current honorarium wait period is) [7/26/2019 12:41 PM] hon1nbo I don't see a reason why not but I'm not touching it until I hear back [7/26/2019 12:42 PM] talkers Thanks Jim. Yes, the 6 day window now puts classes on Aug 1. [7/26/2019 12:59 PM] scott_blevins Sounds like a system coding requirement @yashsedai as we have to enable the window while also preventing โ€˜current monthโ€™ HA entries where โ€˜current monthโ€™ has been locked down for HA consideration due to depletion of funds for that month. Wordy, but i think you get where Iโ€™m coming from. Correct me if Iโ€™m wrong. [7/26/2019 1:00 PM] yashsedai It is on the list to be coded [7/26/2019 1:00 PM] yashsedai I'll be enabling it shortly after updating scotts stickied post [7/26/2019 1:02 PM] talkers @yashsedai please add the changes to the honorarium rules to that post. [7/26/2019 1:02 PM] yashsedai I intend to [7/26/2019 1:02 PM] talkers Thank you [7/26/2019 1:02 PM] yashsedai it will also be on the area where you click the honorarium button [7/26/2019 1:03 PM] talkers Good idea [7/26/2019 2:03 PM] rayearth42 Thank you! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/604388421586124804/unknown.png?ex=67b8ce14&is=67b77c94&hm=13d955f094de8ea11cb825b0af803099a07ac4d044ae16c982a8f4bcdeca990c& [7/26/2019 2:31 PM] scott_blevins Yes, thanks Freddy! [7/26/2019 2:31 PM] scott_blevins And instructors! [7/29/2019 8:23 AM] mell.jpg Moving from #public_relations . @NobleGoblin I'm confused. I was asking for specific examples of what threads needed more moderation. Are you asking me for examples of when moderation happened? [7/29/2019 8:39 AM] nullinterface In my observation, Talk has all the usual downsides of a messageboard. The assumption is that since people *know* each other they'll be pleasant, but we're not a workplace nor a professional organization thus some of the inhibition against being a jerk is removed. I submit that the behavior on Talk is better than most messageboards. [7/29/2019 8:40 AM] noble_goblin Ahhh I misread @mell I thought you were offering to give examples of when moderation should have been better. [7/29/2019 8:58 AM] yashsedai hehe [7/29/2019 9:25 AM] lavarocks. Look, we have a team of moderators. As with anything we need board approval because people get fussy when they think they are being "censored". Ad hom was voted down by the board. We worked with the board to adopt new rules as to what needs moderation. It isn't something we can just decide- so and so isn't being nice so they need to be moderated. [7/29/2019 9:28 AM] mell.jpg One of the reasons I ask for examples is bc I think some people just don't like the governance threads where there is a lot of disagreement. Most of the time it's really heated but necessary as part of our organization. [7/29/2019 9:28 AM] lavarocks. Can things be better, probably, are we improving? We are also working on it [7/29/2019 9:30 AM] mell.jpg Honestly my biggest gripe with talk is one that hardly gets any lip. We have members who regularly go off topic or get on a soapbox. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [7/29/2019 9:36 AM] andrew5152 That stuff generally doesn't even bother me. It does if it goes on and on and on and on, but conversations meandering isn't that big a deal, as long as we're all courteous... (in my opinion; I know others differ, and tolerances differ, etc.) The soapbox thing... feel free to jump on, state your case, and then go away (I struggle with this, because when someone disagrees with me, it's _obviously_ because I haven't explained it properly, and stating my case _yet again_ will _obviously_ make the difference...) Point being, I think I find this less...intrusive...than other people do, though I see Mell's point... [7/29/2019 9:39 AM] andrew5152 Here I go again: I still think all this is going to need to be fixed by the membership, from a grassroots groundswell, not by BoD (or any other governing body) trying to micromanage the situation. Hence, my stance that more rules are not needed; more moderation is not needed. More, better quality _participation_ on the part of the membership IS needed. {Reactions} โค [7/29/2019 9:42 AM] yashsedai ^^ [7/29/2019 9:42 AM] yashsedai I share this philosophy [7/29/2019 9:42 AM] nullinterface there's no top-down "fix" for Talk [7/29/2019 9:43 AM] yashsedai Just like guns in a gun free zone, no law or rule will mandate compliance, [7/29/2019 9:43 AM] nullinterface organic culture change can move the needle. slowly. [7/29/2019 9:44 AM] lavarocks. I do like people's idea that getting more people on talk will help it equalize. [7/29/2019 9:44 AM] mell.jpg Yes. I also think we should be encouraging members to flag things/participate more. Someone told me that one of the people complaining about talk regularly didn't realize he could flag things. [7/29/2019 9:45 AM] yashsedai lol really? [7/29/2019 9:46 AM] andrew5152 hence the need for andrew lecody to do moar "how to communicate @ DMS" classes (ie. how to use Talk, Discord, and/or the Wiki) [7/29/2019 9:49 AM] stephenie. My tactic part 2 for dealing with "talk is toxic" myths is to ask *"how often do you flag these replies that you perceive as toxic?"* Every single person says *"what flags?"* [7/29/2019 9:52 AM] stephenie. Then I pull out my phone, show them the flag system, and explain that our mods have jobs and can't read everything, that they rely on us drawing their attention to issues. And that if enough people flag, that auto-hides the reply. {Reactions} dms (2) [7/29/2019 9:52 AM] nullinterface sounds like a low-effort information campaign to me [7/29/2019 9:58 AM] noble_goblin Iโ€™m fully in agreement that the board is not where we need to begin as far as fixing talk. We need member involvement. [7/29/2019 9:59 AM] andrew5152 it is my opinion that low-effort information campaigning from the in-person contingent @ DMS is what got these words into our vernacular; I think it is also the way out. Thank you Stephenie! [7/29/2019 9:59 AM] noble_goblin I see the issue with it being considered censorship and Iโ€™m not saying fight everyone who comes off as rude. Iโ€™m specifically referring to name calling and public shame posts. Thatโ€™s what I hear about the most. [7/29/2019 10:00 AM] noble_goblin I love the low level idea. However I also think that members want to see SOMETHING, some form of actual action, before we will be able to effectively bring them all back. [7/29/2019 10:01 AM] canibalcrab It's more of feeling like it's targeted censorship [7/29/2019 10:01 AM] canibalcrab Like the ad hom rule being enforced for a few people and not others [7/29/2019 10:01 AM] canibalcrab And it was [7/29/2019 10:03 AM] andrew5152 Talk is Awesome! is the new watchphrase [7/29/2019 10:03 AM] andrew5152 t-minus zero and counting for that to return to my ears/eyes... [7/29/2019 10:04 AM] noble_goblin Iโ€™m actually working on a flyer that we can throw up to encourage talk [7/29/2019 10:04 AM] canibalcrab I like @stephenies approach. Combine that with fixing the bad info coming from tour guides saying "talk is toxic, avoid it" [7/29/2019 10:05 AM] noble_goblin We can make examples of whatโ€™s not allowed and also teach people to flag when they think things are unfair. [7/29/2019 10:05 AM] noble_goblin Oh. Iโ€™m working on the tour issues [7/29/2019 10:05 AM] noble_goblin There will be mandated sign ups starting soon and im aiming to check out what the tours say. [7/29/2019 10:06 AM] canibalcrab On the back end, some rules for moderators would be helpful. And enforcement of them. (not single handedly acting on flags. Not acting on flags you are involved in. ) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [7/29/2019 10:06 AM] nullinterface there are 3 basic categories of DMS member: โ€ข **inactive** show up perhaps monthly - if at all - and are difficult to reach โ€ข **active/weekend project** show up regularly but have little interest in the affairs of the organization โ€ข **active/voting** show up quite regularly, are engaged in the affairs of the organization, and tend to be on Talk [7/29/2019 10:06 AM] stephenie. Is Diana Rhodes still giving tours? She had elevated the professionalism last year. [7/29/2019 10:07 AM] nullinterface the first two demos might notice a poster at DMS, an email, or a mailer. the last demo will promptly notice a Talk post. [7/29/2019 10:08 AM] noble_goblin I havenโ€™t heard of her but if you think sheโ€™s great I would love to get in contact with her. [7/29/2019 10:08 AM] andrew5152 @NobleGoblin I'm not clear on context, but I'll suggest steering clear of "what's not allowed"-type propaganda; PR's job, in my opinion, in general, is to BEE POSITIVE! Answering direct questions is one thing; putting together a Don't Poster is another... [7/29/2019 10:09 AM] noble_goblin Oh Iโ€™m not putting together a donโ€™t poster. Def not my job. Thatโ€™s the mods {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/29/2019 10:09 AM] noble_goblin I was thinking propaganda style posters that would be eye catching ๐Ÿ˜‰ [7/29/2019 10:10 AM] andrew5152 Stephenie is the Poster God. Followed shortly by Judy. And theirs always (appeared to me to) hit home. [7/29/2019 10:10 AM] noble_goblin Who is Stephanie and how can I stalk her I mean find her? [7/29/2019 10:11 AM] canibalcrab @stephenie [7/29/2019 10:11 AM] andrew5152 She's the Stephenie of a few posts up. Summoned by Pearce... [7/29/2019 10:11 AM] noble_goblin Ah. Iโ€™m already messaging her perfect! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/29/2019 10:11 AM] andrew5152 AKA heyheymama on Talk [7/29/2019 10:11 AM] stephenie. I miss making posters. [7/29/2019 10:12 AM] andrew5152 Judy is @judy Kriehn also makes nice posters (same handle on Talk) [7/29/2019 10:14 AM] noble_goblin Contactedddd [7/29/2019 10:17 AM] canibalcrab I try to encourage people to change their server nickname in the DMS discord to match their talk handle or meatspace names so people can find them easier [7/29/2019 10:18 AM] canibalcrab So that's usually a good place to start if you are looking to figure out who you are talking to [7/29/2019 10:22 AM] noble_goblin I kept all my stuff consistent for that reason haha [7/29/2019 10:22 AM] noble_goblin Plus I love my username and it contains my last name anyway. [7/29/2019 10:22 AM] canibalcrab Goblin? [7/29/2019 10:23 AM] canibalcrab That's an interesting family name {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [7/29/2019 10:26 AM] stephenie. Judy is the Poster Queen. Really, truly. [7/29/2019 10:32 AM] andrew5152 Nicole (uglyknees on Talk) does good event posters (she tends to avoid propaganda stuff)... I never can remember the site she says she uses, but you might run it past her if you're wanting help (or maybe I should shut up b/c NobleGoblin ALSO makes awesome posters and isn't looking for help...) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [7/29/2019 10:34 AM] mell.jpg I'm not design inclined so when I was on PR I used the hell out of Canva. {Reactions} โค [7/29/2019 10:34 AM] mell.jpg https://www.canva.com/create/posters/ {Embed} https://www.canva.com/create/posters/ Posters Stand out for the right reasons with a custom poster made in Canva. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YWpFxh33L5tBu_rgC1ykLxFDgqo05Rcqxk8k6qwJDtI/https/about.canva.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/01/poster.png [7/29/2019 10:35 AM] noble_goblin Haha last names Noble. Like a noble person not like the peace prize. Itโ€™s unreal how often I say Noble and people spell it Nobel. [7/29/2019 10:37 AM] canibalcrab Mines constantly misspelled Pierce Dunlop. Double strike on that one {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [7/29/2019 10:38 AM] mell.jpg Just accept that Pierce is your evil alter ego. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [7/29/2019 10:39 AM] hon1nbo Oof [7/29/2019 10:39 AM] canibalcrab Could bring back the "blame Pierce" campaign {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [7/29/2019 10:39 AM] hon1nbo the worst I usually get is "harnett" rather than "hartnett"... I would have thought with the actor it would be easier. I've still never encountered a 'harnett" before so don't know why it's so common [7/29/2019 10:40 AM] canibalcrab I always thought DMS propaganda would be cool. But with less lies in the posters. More like Rosie the riveter [7/29/2019 10:45 AM] andrew5152 "Propaganda" is NOT a negative word despite popular opinion to the contrary. Rosie the Riveter and Wendy the Welder are 2 examples of propaganda generally considered positive. [7/29/2019 10:45 AM] noble_goblin Lolol I can make some ั€ัƒััะบะธะน style ones [7/29/2019 10:46 AM] noble_goblin Propaganda is not seen negatively as far as I can tell. At least not old style [7/29/2019 10:48 AM] lavarocks. I haven't seen Dianna in a while [7/29/2019 10:49 AM] andrew5152 Thanks to such works as 1984, most folks today think "gubment lyin' tuh me" when they hear the word propaganda, "like the rushins, or natzees". But the word itself is just a word, and propaganda when used positively can be a good thing ("Save your ugly face: buckle up!") [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] andrew5152 (just loled @ Pierce Dunlop again) [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] noble_goblin I mean, we are not trying to start a cult. [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] noble_goblin ..... [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] canibalcrab I like to refer to propaganda as the style, but a lot of it was pretty racist [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] noble_goblin Yet [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] noble_goblin Yeah the style is my aim [7/29/2019 10:52 AM] canibalcrab We are pretty close to being able to apply as a religious org [7/29/2019 10:53 AM] canibalcrab But we would need sacrafices to the maker gods. [7/29/2019 10:53 AM] canibalcrab Logistics already has the dumpster gods covered {Reactions} dumpsterfire [7/29/2019 10:53 AM] noble_goblin ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ [7/29/2019 10:53 AM] andrew5152 lol [7/29/2019 10:54 AM] yashsedai haha [7/29/2019 10:54 AM] noble_goblin Iโ€™m sure we could acquire sacrifices on your nights [7/29/2019 10:54 AM] noble_goblin Tour* [7/29/2019 10:54 AM] andrew5152 Interesting note: The word in Portuguese for "church" is culto... [7/29/2019 10:55 AM] noble_goblin Wheresthelietho [7/29/2019 10:55 AM] canibalcrab Makes sense to me [7/29/2019 10:55 AM] noble_goblin the Russian word for church sounds kinda like circus {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [7/29/2019 10:56 AM] canibalcrab LOL [7/29/2019 10:57 AM] nullinterface At a previous workplace I hacked together a system for running a self-updating powerpoint on TVs over the floor. I called it the *PropagandaBot*. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [7/29/2019 10:57 AM] yashsedai We can have this for DMS motto? [7/29/2019 10:57 AM] yashsedai ะ‘ั€ะฐะฝัŒ ะฝะต ะดั‹ะผ -- ะณะปะฐะทะฐ ะฝะต ะตัั‚. [7/29/2019 11:00 AM] noble_goblin ะะต ะทะฝะฐัŽ ะฟะตั€ะฒะธะน ั‡ะฐัั‚ัŒ [7/29/2019 11:00 AM] yashsedai lol [7/29/2019 11:01 AM] noble_goblin ะŸะตั€ะฒั‹ะน* [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] nullinterface Google Translate has interesting ideas about that first phrase [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] yashsedai Hard words Break no bones [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] hon1nbo well that's the idiom pseudo-translation [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] yashsedai Yes [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] hon1nbo literally it's the scolding has no smoke, won't hurt the eyes [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] yashsedai yes [7/29/2019 11:02 AM] noble_goblin About to say. Bone is Kostโ€™ [7/29/2019 11:03 AM] noble_goblin my idioms are rusty [7/29/2019 11:03 AM] yashsedai im no linguist haha [7/29/2019 11:03 AM] noble_goblin ะฏ ะปะธะฝะณะฒะธัั‚! [7/29/2019 11:03 AM] yashsedai but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!(not really) [7/29/2019 11:03 AM] noble_goblin ะ›ะพะป [7/29/2019 11:05 AM] noble_goblin There was one new guy when I last helped with tours who spoke Russian and was interested in teaching. I hope he actually joins [7/29/2019 11:08 AM] andrew5152 youse appear to have keys on your keyboard I dont' have... ๐Ÿ˜– {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [7/29/2019 11:09 AM] canibalcrab !magic8ball should we start a cult? [7/29/2019 11:09 AM] dallas-makerspace#4763 @pearce, the magic 8 ball has spoken: "PROSPECT GOOD". [7/29/2019 11:09 AM] canibalcrab Well there we go. Start the propaganda machine [7/29/2019 11:09 AM] andrew5152 Our magic 8 ball is much more positive than those we had as kids... [7/29/2019 11:10 AM] noble_goblin Andrew and I may already be starting a Cult of Personality in PR... [7/29/2019 11:10 AM] andrew5152 they were always "outlook glum" "ask again later" [7/29/2019 11:16 AM] andrew5152 https://tenor.com/view/belly-piercing-dream-catcher-fat-belly-gif-3519384 [7/29/2019 11:17 AM] yashsedai dear God thats disturbing [7/29/2019 11:19 AM] andrew5152 pierced dunlop... (surprisingly, the only pic I have turned up so far on that... I figured there'd be a chris Farley pic that appeared custom-tailored for this purpose, but so far... nodice) [7/29/2019 11:22 AM] noble_goblin I have a dream catcher belly ring. I think he rocks it better tho [7/29/2019 12:49 PM] nullinterface So long as we're talking posters, we might want to get photos of chairs / officers / board members and place them about the place. I'll try not to sneer at the camera too hard if so. [7/29/2019 12:53 PM] aesuna I actually have a question about talk. It seems like as recently as a few months ago, a lot of people were quoting the "be excellent to one another" rule more. It doesn't seem to be the case lately, what happened? Is there some bad stigma attached to it now or something? [7/29/2019 12:56 PM] hon1nbo No, but there has been a stupid amount of rules lawyering and people claiming that doesn't apply to what they were doing etc. Like the acid spill guy tried to claim there was no rule broken (though there were in fact hard rules broken), but even if there weren't the "be excellent to one another" didn't apply and he had every right to leave several gallons of unlabeled acid in places around the space [7/29/2019 12:56 PM] hon1nbo it is meant to be a "don't make us make a rule" kind of rule [7/29/2019 12:56 PM] hon1nbo but I think we're seeing less people believe in it enough to accept it [7/29/2019 12:56 PM] hon1nbo not a particular stigma [7/29/2019 1:00 PM] aceat64 Personally I think if "be excellent to each other" is "too vague" for someone, they're probably just a jerk {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [7/29/2019 1:00 PM] aesuna That was my next thought. It's a shame, I really like it! Thank you for the info, though. [7/29/2019 1:01 PM] nullinterface "be excellent to each other" is a fantastic ideal. and it probably works great in small groups. but as large as we've gotten there are now *crowds to hide in*. [7/29/2019 1:07 PM] aesuna Like any ideal, it's crazy hard to reach, and unrealistic to expect 100%. But the more people trying the better imo. Though, of course, that's very easy to say and very hard to accomplish. [7/29/2019 1:07 PM] lavarocks. Be excellent is way to vague. I hate it. I'm not a jerk, I just know we are too big for it. [7/29/2019 1:09 PM] aesuna Is there a less vague way to say it, or a way more applicable to such a big group? [7/29/2019 1:17 PM] judykriehn3727 Peace, love and makinโ€™ stuff? [7/29/2019 1:17 PM] nullinterface two people can develop a powerful understanding with precious few words. a handful of people can articulate a complex set of ideals with poetry. a group of dozens can list a set of tenets. but exceed dunbar's number and you need to be awfully explicit. [7/29/2019 1:18 PM] nullinterface DMS got away with it for a long time despite growing to several hundred members because there was a small core of regulars below dunbar's number that could enforce the implicit values {Reactions} โ˜ (2) [7/29/2019 1:19 PM] nullinterface but eventually the quantity of regulars got too large concurrent with turnover [7/29/2019 1:29 PM] hon1nbo @aceat64 agreed, and that's why those people are also the kind of people we have to write rules because of. [7/29/2019 1:38 PM] judykriehn3727 How about โ€œgive me excellence or get a bitchslapโ€ {Reactions} โค (3) [7/29/2019 1:39 PM] mizgeek I kind of like that! [7/29/2019 1:46 PM] lavarocks. Most people are excellent at the space. It's almost par for the course for the dark side to shine through on internet forums. I think it was Kevin who said that in VR forums people are nicer because you see a person rather than just a name. [7/29/2019 3:00 PM] aceat64 Try playing vrchat sometime lol [7/29/2019 3:17 PM] denzukoatwork2317 wasn't that the anime rip off of imvu? [7/29/2019 3:21 PM] aesuna vrchat is like second life with a virtual reality headset I think [7/29/2019 3:34 PM] denzukoatwork2317 o.o ... released just a few years ago and graphics are only marginally better than CyberTown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberTown)?? [7/29/2019 3:50 PM] andrew5152 sooo... I assume everyone has noticed that Talk is moving like molasses, but just in case it could help stave off a full-on crash, wanted to call it to Infra's attention... It's been crawling for the last several hours and keeps getting slower and slower. I'm 80% sure it's the site, and not just me/my computer/my browser (most based on _other stuff_ working as expected) [7/29/2019 3:52 PM] hon1nbo it's standard speed for me [7/29/2019 3:52 PM] hon1nbo it is text as well or just image loads? [7/29/2019 3:53 PM] stansimmons2031 Looks normal to me as well [7/29/2019 3:54 PM] andrew5152 click refresh on the stuff has changed notification, wait...wait....wait....wait.... 15-20 seconds later, sometimes more, it will pop them up. usually this is relatively instantaneous [7/29/2019 3:54 PM] andrew5152 could just be me, but all the other stuff I have up works as usual [7/29/2019 3:55 PM] andrew5152 just clicked this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/605503691075616794/unknown.png?ex=67b8e841&is=67b796c1&hm=7a99bc3c4c2d86030babfcf5322e09f2386b8cdf4d29592579f5ffc413f23eac& [7/29/2019 3:55 PM] andrew5152 and 7 seconds later, I get this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/605503799980982272/unknown.png?ex=67b8e85b&is=67b796db&hm=bef840178f5733bed1ddfc24949851230f7d6dd763fc995e72a802ba4a825108& [7/29/2019 3:56 PM] andrew5152 usually the wait is virtually imperceptable [7/29/2019 3:57 PM] andrew5152 clicking that gets me the circle of wait for about 4 seconds, again, the circle usually not appearing, and the wait being virtually imperceptible. [7/29/2019 3:57 PM] hon1nbo yeah I'm not getting that [7/29/2019 3:57 PM] hon1nbo that's a hard thing to debug too [7/29/2019 3:58 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿคท [7/29/2019 3:58 PM] andrew5152 well. Could just be me. If nobody else bitches, I'd just ignore me. [7/29/2019 4:33 PM] judykriehn3727 No way. You are unignorable {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [8/2/2019 1:51 PM] michaelb5250 @StanSimmons now that's cute. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/606921948802318336/Screenshot_20190802-134810.png?ex=67b973dc&is=67b8225c&hm=cc627275ca98e9c174d551180024c5d909a95c82a17263defc644b1b1aba27b0& [8/2/2019 1:51 PM] michaelb5250 Very appropriate and totally the intention of being an admin on talk. [8/2/2019 1:54 PM] agr0090 What are we not providing that makes parks goods inedible? [8/2/2019 1:59 PM] michaelb5250 'paper plates, bowls, cups and utensils' were mentioned explicitly. [8/2/2019 2:01 PM] agr0090 Could just construct plates, bowls, utensils out of blue tape {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [8/2/2019 2:01 PM] canibalcrab I flagged it and Stan addressed the tag himself [8/2/2019 2:03 PM] nullinterface as little as that costly costly blue tape is being used appropriately, why not? [8/2/2019 2:15 PM] stansimmons2031 Fuck off micheal, I was responding to Pearces personal attack when Freddy closed the thread. It wasn't intentional and Freddy has now hiddent the post. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฆ (3) [8/2/2019 2:19 PM] canibalcrab And you refuse to remove the post [8/2/2019 2:19 PM] canibalcrab For anyone else who wasn't a mod it would be coincidence, since you are a mod it looks like you are abusing your power [8/2/2019 2:21 PM] talkers @AGr there isn't any blue tape [8/2/2019 2:26 PM] kenpurcell Is the blue tape actually used for painting? Otherwise masking tape is cheaper. Unless we are using it for expansion/maintenance purposes then fine. But it should not be a freely available consumable for peoples projects, same with resin, nuts/bolts, etc. [8/2/2019 2:29 PM] nullinterface value of the blue tape is that it's easily removed without damaging the underlying surface, thus hanging temp signs on sensitive surfaces is reasonable. but it's also used as regular tape or on non-sensitive surfaces. [8/2/2019 2:29 PM] nullinterface it's the main tape that we stock so this isn't particularly surprising [8/2/2019 3:12 PM] aceat64 @StanSimmons just delete the post, you as the poster can do that, as can admin/mods [8/2/2019 3:13 PM] aceat64 It's an easy mistake to correct [8/2/2019 5:16 PM] kevpat Anyone yโ€™all to parks? Know if they will provide plates and utensils when they stock. Say itโ€™s to eat their food ? [8/2/2019 5:17 PM] yashsedai i'd bet good money that beyond spoons, nothing parks provides requires plates [8/2/2019 5:18 PM] yashsedai or anything else [8/2/2019 6:00 PM] sewingstuff2561 Maybe just stop providing stuff that requires utensils to eat. [8/2/2019 6:02 PM] sewingstuff2561 Itโ€™s supposed to be for snacks and stuff, not to facilitate a second home. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [8/2/2019 10:32 PM] lavarocks. Just decide either way and announce it instead of just not buying stuff and saying we shouldn't have to after the fact. People will bitch and then it will die off. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/3/2019 12:38 PM] doug.emes I need access to old server closet tonfox ethernet drops in c.a. new area [8/3/2019 3:05 PM] yashsedai No love for you [8/3/2019 3:58 PM] doug.emes Got c.a. digital annex working both walls 1 Jack each. Coming back after lunch to so some Adobe premiere [8/5/2019 6:32 PM] mell.jpg Shoot! @yashsedai I think I accidentally made that heated thread a personal message somehow. Now I don't see it. [8/5/2019 6:33 PM] yashsedai lol [8/5/2019 6:33 PM] mell.jpg I was reading more on options for moderators at https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-moderation-guide/63116#heading--heated-discussion and was just looking at what was available and I accidentally fat fingered it. {Embed} https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-moderation-guide/63116 Discourse Moderation Guide So youโ€™re a moderator on a Discourse forum - congratulations! As a forum moderator, itโ€™s your role to help oversee the forum, ensuring that users and content are in line with your TOS, FAQ, and other published rules/guidelines. Discourse comes with numerous tools to help ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/MAicuqyo1v58UomJzHMjgYtZEcI6Shj08t3RTQoNsKk/https/d11a6trkgmumsb.cloudfront.net/original/3X/6/7/67e379757cfefb16b86a60ed91a7f325594413f6.png [8/5/2019 6:34 PM] mell.jpg I done fucked up. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [8/5/2019 6:36 PM] aceat64 You can do that?! [8/5/2019 6:36 PM] aceat64 That's a new feature [8/5/2019 6:36 PM] aceat64 Pretty cool [8/5/2019 6:36 PM] mell.jpg Thanks for fixing it though! [8/5/2019 6:37 PM] draco_the_drake Freddy moved it here ... https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/c/infrastructure/unused {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/c/infrastructure/unused Unused This category is not being used and is slated for deletion. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [8/5/2019 6:37 PM] mell.jpg Reading through Discourse's moderation guide was very helpful for me. [8/5/2019 6:37 PM] yashsedai its back {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/5/2019 6:37 PM] yashsedai basically you can click make public post [8/5/2019 6:38 PM] yashsedai and then edit the first post to select the topic [8/5/2019 6:38 PM] draco_the_drake I think the unused category is unlisted [8/5/2019 6:38 PM] sewingstuff2561 Hey Draco is back here too! [8/5/2019 6:38 PM] draco_the_drake If you took part in it .. it shows up [8/5/2019 6:39 PM] draco_the_drake it is hidden for everyone else [8/5/2019 6:41 PM] draco_the_drake it just doesn't show up in the latest list [8/5/2019 6:41 PM] draco_the_drake but it will in the category [8/5/2019 6:41 PM] mell.jpg Shows up under Latest for me. [8/5/2019 6:44 PM] draco_the_drake Ahhh ok I found out why ... never mind [8/5/2019 8:20 PM] mell.jpg Is adding the green dot an action for Talk mods or Talk admin? [8/5/2019 8:26 PM] aceat64 Both can do it I think [8/5/2019 8:26 PM] aceat64 I might be wrong [8/5/2019 8:31 PM] mell.jpg Well at the very least I don't have Maker manager access to check to verify membership. I just wanted to see if it was something that was a duty of mine that I didn't realize and if I need to request MM access. [8/5/2019 9:15 PM] lavarocks. Dont do it. The more access the more people need you, lol. Jk [8/5/2019 9:27 PM] mell.jpg Hahaha. Yeah I'm definitely not volunteering for more. Just checking if there were parts of what I already volunteer for that are falling though the cracks. [8/6/2019 12:22 PM] mell.jpg Someone remind me. When we hit July's honorarium cap and the option to request it was turned off, did that also temporarily turn off all requests for honorarium even if they were for classes in August? [8/6/2019 12:36 PM] karlthane Using Oauth2 via Google is down on Talk again. Any way to either A) Fix issue or B) get my talk login (which was created a couple weeks before I joined) converted to username/password that is my AD credentials? [8/6/2019 12:37 PM] yashsedai Mell, it was turned off period [8/6/2019 12:37 PM] yashsedai you could not request honorarium for classes even in August {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ โ˜น [8/6/2019 12:38 PM] yashsedai Good day Karlthane, we cannot convert your talk login to AD credentials. Oauth2 is expected to be fixed on the next stable release for discourse [8/6/2019 12:39 PM] judykriehn3727 And that issue was one that was brought up in the chair/vice chair discussion. Hard for teachers who like to block out their class plan 3-4 months out. [8/6/2019 12:41 PM] karlthane So no way for me to log into talk? [8/6/2019 12:42 PM] mell.jpg Yeah I just had a message from someone wanting to retroactively get Honorarium for a class on Aug 13th. Bc when she submitted it in July the Honorarium wasn't available. I responded letting her know that wasn't an option but I just wanted to make sure I knew why. Thanks. [8/6/2019 12:45 PM] mell.jpg @judy Kriehn yeah I totally get the frustration. I hope it's just a bit of a rough patch with honorarium right now. [8/6/2019 12:45 PM] canibalcrab @Karlthane I had the same issue. I had to do a password reset for talk from the login page that fails. Doing so will create a talk login with the same id and history [8/6/2019 12:46 PM] karlthane @pearce Ok thanks will try that. [8/6/2019 12:51 PM] judykriehn3727 @mell yeah, I miss the good old days of financial ignorance and apathy. [8/6/2019 12:53 PM] nullinterface constant growth made things easier [8/6/2019 12:58 PM] yashsedai Sorry I had to step away [8/6/2019 12:58 PM] yashsedai let me know if you have problems after the password reset [8/6/2019 1:03 PM] karlthane Password reset worked. [8/6/2019 1:06 PM] yashsedai perfect [8/15/2019 1:04 PM] agr0090 @yashsedai ticket kiosk says the active directory web service is down [8/15/2019 1:04 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/611621246102274054/IMG_20190815_124530.jpg?ex=67b968ec&is=67b8176c&hm=19a2a0a71300e8377197c8f5f40ee0d8752cbe09ffce453f21f73170191c569b& [8/15/2019 1:04 PM] agr0090 Or just unreachable from kiosk, I didn't try power cycling kiosk or anything [8/15/2019 1:11 PM] yashsedai Would you mind power cycling it? [8/15/2019 1:14 PM] agr0090 I left already [8/15/2019 3:35 PM] denzuko @yashsedai almost off duty. Ill get this resolved {Reactions} dms [8/17/2019 7:40 PM] yashsedai jump server is restarting [8/18/2019 1:04 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/t-mobile-hotspot-is-down/61164 [8/18/2019 1:05 PM] nullinterface DMS has a T-Mo femtocell? [8/18/2019 1:55 PM] hon1nbo yeah, though I don't know enough about it to help get it back online [8/18/2019 2:00 PM] stansimmons2031 I got it for us because our coverage with TMO is shitty. Rebooting it usually fixes it. It does a vpn out to TMO for up to 8 3g and 8 "4g". [8/18/2019 2:27 PM] aceat64 Aren't those usually locked to a list of specific phones? [8/18/2019 2:31 PM] nullinterface I gather that there are config options to secure them fi you're so inclined [8/18/2019 2:31 PM] nullinterface is funny that I've occasionally hotspotted my phone when the wifi isn't cutting it and those GBs ultimately go down the same pipe as wifi [8/18/2019 3:09 PM] stansimmons2031 This one was specifically ordered from TMO on my personal account to help with the shitty service here. There is also a VZ and ATT microcell around here that was donated by someone... I have not taken the time to set them up yet. [8/18/2019 3:10 PM] stansimmons2031 The TMO one is open for any TMO 3g/4g phone [8/18/2019 6:46 PM] aceat64 Ah cool, didn't know they could be set to open [8/19/2019 1:10 AM] hon1nbo Yeah you can get them for business premesis and other things for customers. They're actually pretty common [8/22/2019 11:38 AM] denzukoatwork2317 @ESmith yes and I donated a sprint and AT&T one as well. not sure if we're using them yet [8/22/2019 2:12 PM] stansimmons2031 Not yet [8/23/2019 10:10 PM] denzuko anyone here know how to pull up the user credentials from a remote machine (ie full username) with powershell? [8/23/2019 10:11 PM] denzuko trying to use winrim (aka remote ps session) but the remote machine uses hotmail authentication not local or domain. [8/23/2019 10:16 PM] denzuko ok maybe not the right path but this sort of worked just not for connecting to the remote windows server [8/23/2019 10:16 PM] denzuko https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/exchange/exchange-online/connect-to-exchange-online-powershell/connect-to-exchange-online-powershell?view=exchange-ps {Embed} https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/exchange/exchange-online/connect-to-exchange-online-powershell/connect-to-exchange-online-powershell?view=exchange-ps Connect to Exchange Online PowerShell Learn how to use remote PowerShell to connect to Exchange Online. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8_2StF6hBizSR9fUiWW7z9s8pqSQvUqlJfycyvxgW_4/https/docs.microsoft.com/en-us/media/logos/logo-ms-social.png [8/23/2019 10:21 PM] yashsedai what rights do you have to the remote machine [8/23/2019 10:27 PM] denzuko I personally own it and the microsoft account its using to authenticate with [8/23/2019 10:28 PM] denzuko so its an admin account if that's what your meaning [8/23/2019 10:42 PM] yashsedai i'm not following then [8/23/2019 10:42 PM] yashsedai what are you trying to accomplish? [8/23/2019 10:43 PM] yashsedai how to auth with hotmail creds via winrm? [8/23/2019 10:49 PM] denzuko I'll be glad to show you. I'm in the VCC area, are you on site? [8/25/2019 11:02 PM] merissa4308 Here's a thought... Is there some way to add on a question when people sign up for membership what is drawing them to the space? ie tools (tell us which one), committee (tell us which one), classes, general community , etc? [8/25/2019 11:02 PM] merissa4308 Would help gather data on what brings people in [8/25/2019 11:37 PM] hon1nbo I'd be interested in seeing hte results of such an onboarding survey [8/25/2019 11:38 PM] hon1nbo it's probably easiest to send it like once a week to new signups, as long as they didn't opt-out of non-operationally realted emails [8/25/2019 11:38 PM] hon1nbo I think we have that option. Need to double check [8/25/2019 11:38 PM] hon1nbo @NobleGoblin is that something PR would be interested in helping track? [8/25/2019 11:42 PM] merissa4308 I'd be happy to help with data tracking/reporting [8/26/2019 2:56 AM] agr0090 Fail, I clipped rfid reader with cart and it snapped off 3 of 4 mounts where the screw went into rfid housing itself [8/26/2019 2:57 AM] agr0090 Won't be able to repair tonight but can later this week [8/26/2019 2:58 AM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/615454905770967061/IMG_20190826_025741.jpg?ex=67b8dacc&is=67b7894c&hm=15d7051b04b678144af1543dec297601a40f6ee2ba989a35670bf47ccb98d627& [8/26/2019 3:02 AM] agr0090 Still attached and functioning, but not secure {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/615456062790959134/IMG_20190826_030212.jpg?ex=67b8dbdf&is=67b78a5f&hm=0713957db9e566f27fe9d97f714bd98ff2ab98836cd524ce67c1f6195f4fe4dc& [8/27/2019 12:52 AM] hon1nbo ugh, at least it's lasting longer than old versions. We tried aluminum but even with the larger cutout section needed to be put on standoffs to function. If you can make a new plate out of ABS that works, or remount on standoffs [8/27/2019 12:57 AM] hon1nbo @AGr If a new plate is needed there is an SVG in my member folder called "Door_controls" [8/27/2019 1:02 AM] agr0090 Thanks, was going to get some measurements tomorrow and try to fix wednesday [8/27/2019 1:06 AM] hon1nbo I think the only thing missing from that file are the screwholes for the railing screws [8/27/2019 1:06 AM] hon1nbo I cheated last time and just lined up the ABS plexi shards to mark the holes on the aluminum and that worked alright. THose don't have a tight tolerance [8/29/2019 4:37 AM] hon1nbo @here why is talk in read only mode right now? [8/29/2019 4:56 AM] aesuna Is it? I get a reply thing, or was it already fixed? [8/29/2019 7:33 AM] draco_the_drake @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium It always goes into readonly mode while it backs up around 4:30am [8/29/2019 7:33 AM] draco_the_drake or does house keeping [8/29/2019 10:57 AM] hon1nbo Ah, never knew that [8/29/2019 11:00 AM] canibalcrab I did notice it had some regularity when I couldn't sleep [8/29/2019 11:43 AM] andrew5152 so... who's responsible for the care & feeding of the DMS eventbrite page? https://www.eventbrite.com/v/dallas-makerspace-671 {Embed} https://www.eventbrite.com/v/dallas-makerspace-671 Dallas Makerspace There are 0 upcoming events at Dallas Makerspace in Carrollton, TX https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/JQRuqnEYS8MqCuiQlHUy0vVGbj_SfODr10tAwxPOS7o/https/cdn.evbstatic.com/s3-build/perm_001/6ce389/django/images/logos/eb_orange_on_white_1200x630.png [8/29/2019 11:43 AM] yashsedai lol [8/29/2019 11:43 AM] yashsedai 123 notit [8/29/2019 11:44 AM] yashsedai j/k [8/29/2019 11:53 AM] lavarocks. I list on eventbrite but not under the official dms page. [8/29/2019 11:57 AM] andrew5152 jewlery seems to have mastered it, but nobody else, really, it seems... [8/29/2019 12:00 PM] lavarocks. Truth [8/29/2019 11:58 PM] agr0090 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/616859229923573770/IMG_20190829_235732.jpg?ex=67b9596d&is=67b807ed&hm=29f5ba0055f7a433bd42339cef08fc9baa68c58575a4e74a3786c47c799f17db& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/616859230862966785/IMG_20190829_235752.jpg?ex=67b9596d&is=67b807ed&hm=fdf481a39ebd7c51b2cf586519cd92f8f236d9f3f4baec4e86c4c65223d77430& [8/29/2019 11:59 PM] agr0090 3d printed petg 0.5 inch diam 2.5 long cylinder with .16 hole and tapped it for 10-32, so those mounts should break first if hit again {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) dms (4) [8/30/2019 4:08 AM] hon1nbo Thanks Brandon! [9/8/2019 12:08 AM] canibalcrab is woodshops AC supposed to be offline? [9/8/2019 9:19 AM] stansimmons2031 It was probably frozen up again. I just checked and it was on this morning. [9/10/2019 4:13 PM] nullinterface ProTip: it's never not a layer 1 fault when the NETWORK light isn't staying on [9/10/2019 4:13 PM] yashsedai lol [9/10/2019 4:13 PM] yashsedai come on! [9/10/2019 4:14 PM] nullinterface I mean, it could switch to wireless mode over a *small enough gap* [9/10/2019 4:14 PM] yashsedai lololol [9/10/2019 4:15 PM] nullinterface only took the *network technician* 20+ minutes to inform that the CPE wasn't actually showing the usual indicators [9/10/2019 4:16 PM] nullinterface field tech probably bend the fiber too hard or didn't really seat it [9/10/2019 4:16 PM] yashsedai lolololol [9/10/2019 4:16 PM] nullinterface or maybe that second trip to the hub they actually bothered to make sure it was connected to the right splitter [9/10/2019 4:17 PM] nullinterface sh_t ... there are BPON splitters in that hub. Bet they hooked that GPON ONT up to a BPON splitter, much to the consternation of that ancient tellabs OLT. [9/10/2019 4:18 PM] nullinterface problem with this business is that there are *installers* and then there are *field techs* [9/10/2019 4:18 PM] nullinterface the job title is field tech, but some of them are really just installers [9/10/2019 7:02 PM] robert22 !members [9/10/2019 7:02 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 There are currently 2072 members. [9/10/2019 7:27 PM] andrew5152 how hard would it be to create a "members" channel, where the bot can only talk to itself, to post the member count say... every 168 hours, twice a week, on Thursday around 1800 and again on Thursday around 23:59? [9/10/2019 9:46 PM] canibalcrab You can direct message the bot [9/10/2019 9:46 PM] canibalcrab The bot could also post a message of the day or whatever [9/10/2019 9:47 PM] canibalcrab This is the extent of my knowledge. You can write some code yourself to do it [9/10/2019 9:47 PM] canibalcrab !about [9/10/2019 9:47 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 I understand the following commands: `!about or !info ` - Display this help message. `!magic8ball ` - Ask the magic 8 ball a question. `!members ` - Show the total number of active DMS members. `!random ` - Request a random number, chosen by fair dice roll. My source code is available on GitHub: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/dms-discord-bot development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [9/10/2019 9:50 PM] andrew5152 ~You can write some code yourself to do it~ ROFL Me no coder... [9/10/2019 9:53 PM] andrew5152 also me dm dallas-makerspace (bot) does not work. i am a bad channel, apparently... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/621176466477940747/unknown.png?ex=67b93c2a&is=67b7eaaa&hm=41744a93e468cb3a7cc04f951309ef4b471f5af317205963f64f2cb3bcf99b96& [9/10/2019 10:00 PM] canibalcrab @aceat64 broke it then {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [9/11/2019 8:38 AM] judykriehn3727 But @aceat64 was probably under the influence of dental sedatives at the time. [9/11/2019 8:45 AM] stansimmons2031 Johnson controls is here to work on woodshop ac.... someone apparently changed roof access code. [9/11/2019 8:46 AM] aceat64 The bot doesn't allow PM commands to prevent a denial of service attack [9/11/2019 10:59 AM] canibalcrab @StanSimmons might have been the landlord? We can probably cut the lock off if we really need to [9/11/2019 10:59 AM] canibalcrab Let me know if they didn't get in and I'll email the landlord and ask [9/11/2019 11:33 AM] stansimmons2031 Rather than pay for an AC call and not get anything done, I had the AC guy cut the lock and then handed him off to Freddy while I go to the eye doctor [9/13/2019 1:45 PM] artg_dms8185 If LL did this, need to know why. Access being abused? [9/13/2019 2:46 PM] canibalcrab I don't believe we are supposed to be on the roof anyway, but we had the code a long time ago [9/13/2019 5:09 PM] stansimmons2031 I suspect the lock just failed. It wasn't a weatherproof lock. [9/13/2019 5:12 PM] canibalcrab That would make sense [9/13/2019 5:12 PM] canibalcrab The last few times I encountered the lock it was just open and only serving to keep the door closed [9/13/2019 6:13 PM] yashsedai I ordered another [9/13/2019 6:35 PM] hon1nbo yeah and Tim was on it a day or two before. I doubt anyone came and changed it in that interim [9/13/2019 8:59 PM] judykriehn3727 Kevin asked how many licenses were ordered for Adobe CC. [9/13/2019 8:59 PM] judykriehn3727 I said I dunno, because more than digital media uses Adobe CC. [9/13/2019 9:30 PM] stansimmons2031 at one point we had 14 licenses for Adobe CC. I don't know the current status [9/16/2019 6:07 PM] draco_the_drake Well .. I think there has been a miscommunication then @yashsedai [9/16/2019 6:07 PM] yashsedai How so [9/16/2019 6:07 PM] draco_the_drake You had thought that I wrote the calendar code when I didn't [9/16/2019 6:08 PM] yashsedai I never said that [9/16/2019 6:08 PM] yashsedai I said you claimed to update it [9/16/2019 6:08 PM] yashsedai And left it in a piss poor state [9/16/2019 6:08 PM] draco_the_drake What was wrong? [9/16/2019 6:08 PM] yashsedai You can have a look at the pull when he posts it [9/16/2019 6:08 PM] yashsedai More than I care to list [9/16/2019 6:09 PM] draco_the_drake Was it my modifications? or original code? [9/16/2019 6:09 PM] yashsedai My overall point that you miss [9/16/2019 6:09 PM] yashsedai Is that you claim to have done so much, when what you did most of was stir shit [9/16/2019 6:09 PM] draco_the_drake That is the misunderstanding [9/16/2019 6:09 PM] yashsedai In case you dont get it, we are tired of you and the shit stirring [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake We who? [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] yashsedai Lol [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] yashsedai Nice try [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake huh? [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] draco_the_drake It looked very different at the member meeting [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] yashsedai The officers? The board? [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] yashsedai Lol [9/16/2019 6:10 PM] yashsedai You live in fantasy land [9/16/2019 6:11 PM] yashsedai You surround yourself in an echo chamber of people who rally to your cause. This is not the cause of the general membership [9/16/2019 6:11 PM] draco_the_drake Like you do here .. on discord [9/16/2019 6:11 PM] draco_the_drake ? [9/16/2019 6:12 PM] yashsedai You think that your want for control should override the people doing the job [9/16/2019 6:12 PM] draco_the_drake *I* am not going to override or control anything [9/16/2019 6:12 PM] draco_the_drake I am just a member dude [9/16/2019 6:12 PM] yashsedai You are trying trying ttying [9/16/2019 6:12 PM] yashsedai Bullshit [9/16/2019 6:13 PM] yashsedai You are so far up everyone's ass about your power to the people agenda it's amazing you dont have shit on your nose [9/16/2019 6:13 PM] draco_the_drake It is they that tell me stuff [9/16/2019 6:13 PM] draco_the_drake and are afraid to come out and talk [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] yashsedai You dont seem to understand anything about organizational management. And yet, every two seconds you are up in the middle of shit running your mouth about crap that usually isnt true [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] yashsedai That's bullshit too [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] yashsedai Afraid... [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] draco_the_drake https://www.instituteofpublicspeaking.com/leadership/positional-vs-persuasive-leaders/ {Embed} https://www.instituteofpublicspeaking.com/leadership/positional-vs-persuasive-leaders/ Positional vs. Persuasive Leaders - Institute of Public Speaking Want to be a more effective leader? Learn why positional leaders fail and persuasive ones thrive as we explore these 2 very different leadership styles. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BJVYF9mwxKGZDTfCD3p9mScqRFqr9d4A9PDPj4iTdvQ/https/www.instituteofpublicspeaking.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/persuasive_v_positional_leaders_feature.png [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] yashsedai Dude [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] yashsedai Idgaf about your links [9/16/2019 6:14 PM] yashsedai You seem to be confused as normal [9/16/2019 6:15 PM] yashsedai Consensus is not how we are running DMS [9/16/2019 6:15 PM] yashsedai It might have worked at 200, but the adults have to stand up and take care of business [9/16/2019 6:15 PM] yashsedai If we left dms up to "volunteer speed" nothing would get done [9/16/2019 6:16 PM] draco_the_drake You will see that what happened with you and the anime thing you helped out with .. will happen again because you do the same stuff [9/16/2019 6:16 PM] yashsedai You dont even know about it [9/16/2019 6:17 PM] draco_the_drake I know enough that the people there .. think what you are doing in your position here warrants the same actions [9/16/2019 6:17 PM] yashsedai Haha [9/16/2019 6:17 PM] yashsedai You dont know shit [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] yashsedai You havent the slightest fucking clue [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] yashsedai Its amusing that you think you do though [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] draco_the_drake Why do I bother talking with you at all? I thought perhaps I could explain my actions with the calendar .. and get you to see some reason .. but I see you love power too much to care [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] draco_the_drake later [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] yashsedai Power? [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] yashsedai Lol I love dms [9/16/2019 6:18 PM] yashsedai You want to hurt dms [9/16/2019 6:19 PM] yashsedai It's simple math [9/16/2019 6:19 PM] yashsedai Repel the invaders [9/16/2019 6:20 PM] yashsedai If power is being conscientious about tour position then I guess I'm guilty [9/17/2019 10:00 PM] draco_the_drake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsGBSCDwcI {Embed} ApproachingNirvana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsGBSCDwcI Sugar High - Approaching Nirvana Like my stuff? Consider Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/approachingnirvana iTunes: http://bit.ly/10rZfBG Want to use our music: http://approachingnirvana.co... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pxD95-9V3DvPS82b3NblLg_2y_DZFvVJ4DblFVE6RMI/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/ngsGBSCDwcI/maxresdefault.jpg [9/30/2019 12:48 PM] robert22 @yashsedai just confirming you ordered 3 iPads for DMS [9/30/2019 2:00 PM] yashsedai Yes [9/30/2019 3:21 PM] stansimmons2031 Printer guy came today, said he'd never seen anything like it on the Samsung. He will be back tomorrow with a new board. [9/30/2019 3:27 PM] robert22 Excellent!!! [10/1/2019 9:56 PM] stansimmons2031 apparently "tomorrow" is a fluid concept. ๐Ÿ˜‰ They had to order a replacement board. [10/1/2019 10:39 PM] nullinterface "tomorrow" is conveniently never "now" [10/2/2019 12:32 PM] stansimmons2031 It is working now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [10/2/2019 12:58 PM] apparently_weird Is infrastructure over the adobe license issue on the design computers in interactive? Trying to figure out who the correct contact is to get this fixed. [10/2/2019 1:20 PM] nullinterface should be [10/2/2019 1:31 PM] kevpat Infrastructure has the laser and digital media licenses. 3dfab and creative arts do their own thing [10/2/2019 1:36 PM] apparently_weird Since Freddy has been busy, is there someone on the team that may have the bandwidth to fix the two computers license issue on either end in Interactive? [10/2/2019 1:45 PM] hon1nbo @Kevin we do the design computers too. We should have licenses for those. Can you generate a package? I think those installs are still on the legacy licenses from before Adobe changed the policy [10/2/2019 1:52 PM] kevpat I can generate the packages and install them. Do we want the full adobe suite or a subset? Issue is itโ€™s on the 5 new laser computers and 9 digital media computers. I donโ€™t have the adobe admin rights to deactivate old licenses to make room for new activations. Also do we want people creative cloud accounts to sync locally with their profile. I can figure that out based on how big the design computers hard drives are. [10/2/2019 1:53 PM] kevpat But yeah I can generate and install them. Just not sure if they will activate and donโ€™t have rights to fix that [10/2/2019 1:54 PM] apparently_weird We do need to have the full Adobe suite available. This way people can work on whatever projects outside of Digital Media if someone is filming or has a class going on. [10/2/2019 2:11 PM] hon1nbo that's way too many computers; there were 3 or 4 specified for DM, and 4 for laser. Laser doesn't have 9 computers justified for licenses [10/2/2019 2:12 PM] hon1nbo and even then laser didn't need the full suite [10/2/2019 2:12 PM] kevpat But do you actually want Premier Pro and rush for video, audition for audio, distiller, after effects, character animator, dreamweaver websites, media encoder and prelude etc... on .5TB hard drives? [10/2/2019 2:12 PM] hon1nbo @Apparently_Weird the design computers are supposed to have the full suite [10/2/2019 2:13 PM] kevpat It makes no difference to me, 1 application is the same cost as all 20 [10/2/2019 2:13 PM] hon1nbo it's not the same cost IIRC [10/2/2019 2:13 PM] hon1nbo I want to know where the 9 licenses alledgedly used by laser went [10/2/2019 2:13 PM] hon1nbo since they should only have 4 [10/2/2019 2:13 PM] kevpat Yeah it is they both consume one device license [10/2/2019 2:14 PM] kevpat laser has 5 computers [10/2/2019 2:14 PM] hon1nbo its a full suite per device license; we can get licenses for the non-full suite that are cheaper for things that need it, like laser only really needs illustrator and maybe photoshop [10/2/2019 2:14 PM] kevpat the rest I put on the digital media computers [10/2/2019 2:14 PM] hon1nbo they should only have 4 [10/2/2019 2:14 PM] hon1nbo 4 machines [10/2/2019 2:14 PM] hon1nbo their machines are *not* permitted for design work [10/2/2019 2:15 PM] hon1nbo just for loading jobs. hence illustrator for conversions and quick touches [10/2/2019 2:15 PM] kevpat Since the wiki said they were laser and digital media licenses [10/2/2019 2:15 PM] michaelb5250 We bought 5 computers when Andrew got the new setup. Only 4 should be used at the moment, the 5th is for a new laser/test platform when we have the space. [10/2/2019 2:15 PM] hon1nbo infrastructure manages the machines and licenses. They are allocated to committees. [10/2/2019 2:15 PM] kevpat Laser could move to a cheaper one application license but I dont see that those were purchased [10/2/2019 2:15 PM] michaelb5250 It will likely need a license in the future. But I doubt it needs one right now. [10/2/2019 2:16 PM] hon1nbo also little dyslexic. misread as 9 laser and 5 DM [10/2/2019 2:16 PM] hon1nbo DM does not even have 9 workstations operational [10/2/2019 2:16 PM] hon1nbo infrastructure procured 14 licenses for the entire space on the old system, of which 3 still are reserved for the design computers [10/2/2019 2:16 PM] kevpat yeah it does and two more that can be fixed [10/2/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo we spec'd thje current license count by operational stations [10/2/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo I am looking at your space *right now* [10/2/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo you do *not* have 9 usable workstations [10/2/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo you have 4 desks, at which 3 machines are crammed on one [10/2/2019 2:18 PM] kevpat all 3 of those work [10/2/2019 2:18 PM] hon1nbo 6 machines that could be called operational [10/2/2019 2:18 PM] hon1nbo not 9 [10/2/2019 2:18 PM] hon1nbo I missed one, 7 [10/2/2019 2:19 PM] hon1nbo but we still reserved 3 licenses during acquisition for the design computers [10/2/2019 2:19 PM] hon1nbo and those machines *must* have them since we have to have a set that is not beholden to classes / committees so members may work on things [10/2/2019 2:19 PM] hon1nbo laser doesn't provide design computers, and DM may have a class or be in use [10/2/2019 2:20 PM] hon1nbo @yashsedai can chime in here. If you want to purchase some more licenses with DM budget fine, but we can't take the seat count from the design computers [10/2/2019 2:20 PM] kevpat Yeah I get it, still cant deactivate licenses and reactivate without permissions [10/2/2019 2:20 PM] kevpat I can install the full suite on the 2 working computers though [10/2/2019 2:21 PM] hon1nbo you don't have the owner role to add more licenses, but as a workstation manager should be able to remove them from a machine [10/2/2019 2:21 PM] kevpat I can take it off digital media and the 5th laser computer thats not in use [10/2/2019 2:21 PM] hon1nbo if not I'll see if I can get them this evening [10/2/2019 2:22 PM] kevpat I contacted adobe support a while back when upgrading laser and they wouldnt let me [10/2/2019 2:22 PM] yashsedai kevin [10/2/2019 2:23 PM] yashsedai how many computers in digital media do you have adobe on? [10/2/2019 2:23 PM] kevpat 9 [10/2/2019 2:23 PM] yashsedai Please give me the names of the ones that need the license deactivated [10/2/2019 2:23 PM] kevpat k [10/2/2019 2:31 PM] kevpat Deactivate the whole "Default-Creative Cloud All Apps for HED-Shared Device" Profile group [10/2/2019 2:36 PM] kevpat I believe thats the only way you can deactivate licenses on admin console. You can do individual computers with physical access and command line but some of those computers dont exist anymore. I've set up separate profile groups for this reason. [10/2/2019 2:59 PM] hon1nbo Yeah it's weird but came to the same conclusion from the Adobe documentation. [10/7/2019 10:09 PM] themitch22 @yashsedai did we figure out if we can get a mini pc for dedicated for the multicam router? [10/7/2019 10:09 PM] themitch22 the ones laser has would be plenty powerful. It can run the multicam program in the background with windows, then force into RDP for using Vcarve like we do with the pi [10/23/2019 7:39 PM] robert22 Anyone able to go look at CA square? [10/23/2019 7:40 PM] robert22 They said there is a password, i thought Freddy pulled them off the iPads so someone must have logged off which will break everything until someone adds the pin code back [10/23/2019 7:43 PM] yashsedai i'll be looking at it [10/24/2019 9:14 AM] yashsedai so the issue here is that someone failed to complete a transacction and tried cancelling and it was stuck [10/24/2019 9:15 AM] mizgeek The night I was trying it, it wasnโ€™t stuck. It just wouldnโ€™t acknowledge a card swipe. [10/24/2019 9:16 AM] robert22 The pin code is normally needed for mgr override during that situation in the past if you close app and reopen it will reset it [10/24/2019 9:16 AM] mizgeek I had access to the pin. [10/24/2019 9:17 AM] mizgeek I closed the app and reopened it. It said it was connected as it reopened. [10/24/2019 9:17 AM] mizgeek (I had Judy on my phone) [10/24/2019 9:24 AM] yashsedai Aye [10/24/2019 9:24 AM] yashsedai sorry [10/24/2019 9:24 AM] yashsedai work distraction [10/24/2019 9:24 AM] yashsedai the base seems to be toast [10/24/2019 9:24 AM] yashsedai i'll be changing it out today, ran out of time yesterday [10/24/2019 9:24 AM] mizgeek Thank you!!! [10/24/2019 9:25 AM] mizgeek It seems to be hard enough to get people to pay. [10/24/2019 9:25 AM] yashsedai no argument there [10/24/2019 1:34 PM] hon1nbo we need to investigate using something that isn't this suare setup, or at least have an alternative option [10/24/2019 1:36 PM] hon1nbo like we could have one time use payments in WHMCS for a few of the really common ones available in case payments aren't available on the spot [10/24/2019 1:45 PM] robert22 How would you integrate that to QBO? [10/24/2019 1:48 PM] michaelb5250 Speaking of quickbooks... Brad is sending people to infra for QBO access, so can I has? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ” (2) [10/24/2019 2:03 PM] yashsedai ๐Ÿง€ [10/24/2019 5:35 PM] hon1nbo @Robert there are a ton of QBO integrations for WHMCS. I'm sure one of them will do what we need [10/24/2019 5:35 PM] hon1nbo sample: https://marketplace.whmcs.com/product/326 {Embed} https://marketplace.whmcs.com/product/326 QuickBooks Online Automatic Sync Module - WHMCS Marketplace Our WHMCS QuickBooks Online Automatic Sync Module is your complete solution for a two-way streamlined billing and accounting workflow if you use QuickBooks Online to manage your accounting for WHMCS. [10/24/2019 5:35 PM] hon1nbo (not endorsing that one, just that it's something that isn't uncommon) [10/26/2019 1:26 AM] michaelb5250 maybe I'm late to the game here, but if y'all are looking for an ethernet tester, this thing seems interesting https://www.pockethernet.com/ supposed to do tdr as well {Embed} https://www.pockethernet.com/ Pockethernet - Smartphone connected Cable tester & Ethernet networ... Pockethernet is designed to help you easily maintain and trouble-shoot ethernet networks. It comes with 20+ features such as Wiremap, TDR, DHCP, VLAN and more. [10/26/2019 2:21 AM] yashsedai that is quite interesting [10/28/2019 4:33 AM] robert22 FYI Talk is in read only mode [10/28/2019 8:43 AM] nullinterface part of the backup script, no? [10/28/2019 9:13 AM] yashsedai yes [10/28/2019 10:50 AM] aceat64 It runs every morning when no one but @Robert is on the forums [10/28/2019 10:50 AM] robert22 Itโ€™s true... [10/28/2019 3:29 PM] michaelb5250 We've got telepresence options for committee meetings? [10/28/2019 3:30 PM] hon1nbo always have [10/28/2019 3:30 PM] hon1nbo we have G Suite Pro for every member [10/28/2019 3:31 PM] hon1nbo when you create a Google calendar item logged into your g suite account, hit "add conferencing" and it gives you options [10/28/2019 3:31 PM] hon1nbo we can even override the 1k subscriber limit for Youtube Live streaming when streaming a public meeting [10/28/2019 3:32 PM] hon1nbo as for better micropones / cameras that's where it can get tricky. I know we had a setup at one point at least, but for meetings that aren't too rowdy just running it off a laptop is usually ok [10/28/2019 3:33 PM] hon1nbo we even have phone dial-in support with it, so you can just straight up call in rather than use the web interface or setup an app [10/28/2019 4:32 PM] jchance Hey all, I'm a new member having trouble accessing the jump server. Seems like an auth issue, could someone take a look into this? Username is `jchancehud` [10/28/2019 4:46 PM] denzuko be there in 20. I'll help walk you through how to get on the jump server [10/28/2019 4:49 PM] jchance Ok, thanks @Denzuko.sdf.org [10/28/2019 5:28 PM] denzuko oh today is whitehat day [10/29/2019 6:36 PM] michaelb5250 Any reason the 102 warehouse thermostat is still in 'cool mode'? [10/29/2019 6:44 PM] andrew5152 tomorrow, we'll want it? [10/29/2019 6:46 PM] yashsedai yes [10/29/2019 6:46 PM] yashsedai because it only does cool [10/29/2019 6:46 PM] yashsedai it is not running [11/4/2019 7:54 PM] Deleted User Is there anyone available that can enable remote RDP access for me? [11/4/2019 7:58 PM] yashsedai whats going on? [11/4/2019 7:58 PM] yashsedai it should be enabled by default [11/4/2019 7:58 PM] yashsedai what is your username? [11/4/2019 8:19 PM] Deleted User jswebb82 [11/4/2019 8:21 PM] yashsedai give it a try [11/4/2019 8:28 PM] Deleted User It works. Excellent. [11/4/2019 8:28 PM] Deleted User Thank you so much [11/4/2019 8:29 PM] yashsedai yw [11/4/2019 8:32 PM] Deleted User Is there a way you could add like 500MB of storage so I can save files and slice and such? [11/4/2019 9:17 PM] talkers @Deleted User save it to the member drive [11/4/2019 9:17 PM] talkers Create your own folder there. Then you can access from any space computer [11/4/2019 9:19 PM] talkers {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/641114404959813642/JPEG_20191104_211939.jpg?ex=67b94251&is=67b7f0d1&hm=d697461b70a5563d69f002472bd54f9b2f35d309b8fbd1a99d0c61e96dbc1458& [11/4/2019 9:53 PM] Deleted User Oh excellent. [11/4/2019 9:53 PM] Deleted User Thanks [11/4/2019 9:57 PM] doug.emes Understand there are no inherited rights masks on member drive, as it is in the spirit of sharing. So keep other backups besides there [11/4/2019 10:10 PM] Deleted User Of course but if im doing something via RDP, I obviously can't save it to a physical drive, so I needed a way to do that. [11/4/2019 10:22 PM] hon1nbo you can also map your local computer to the jump server as part of the RDP connection; it's how I move stuff between DMS and home when using windows programs [11/4/2019 10:23 PM] hon1nbo https://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-access-local-drive-files-from-remote-desktop-session {Embed} https://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-access-local-drive-files-from-remote-desktop-session How To Access Local Drive Files from Remote Desktop Session - Next... How To Access Local Drive Files from Remote Desktop Session - https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xErhbdcjJ7W9UwdM-miGv-DQ0_co7RkzcYnC3s4_4Qs/https/www.nextofwindows.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Remote-Desktop-Connection-2015-12-18-22_37_51.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [11/5/2019 9:54 AM] andrew5152 most of this addressed in the Jump Server FAQ: https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/JumpServerFAQ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/6/2019 10:22 AM] kentamanos no idea if this is worth following up on, but I found this page "interesting" https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Cancel_membership {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Cancel_membership Cancel membership [11/6/2019 10:24 AM] andrew5152 Huh. That IS interesting... [11/6/2019 10:24 AM] kentamanos no idea if she cancelled through normal methods etc. [11/6/2019 10:26 AM] andrew5152 Me neither. I've not become a part of that data stream... [11/6/2019 10:33 AM] andrew5152 Still shows active member account on dms.local with the name same as Uname on wiki. How interesting that, of all the resources at a member's disposal, creating a wiki page fell most readily to this cause...especially given MOST members eschew Wiki work in general I reckon @yashsedai is probably working the WHCMS queue, where this probably really should have been filed. No idea if anyone else is... [11/6/2019 12:19 PM] nullinterface *especially given MOST members ~~eschew~~ **loathe** Wiki work in ~~general~~ **with nuclear intensity*** [11/6/2019 12:19 PM] nullinterface FTFY {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿคฃ [11/6/2019 10:42 PM] Deleted User Can someone check why I can't access the storage system? It's said I couldn't be found :-/ [11/6/2019 10:42 PM] Deleted User jswebb82 [11/10/2019 5:57 PM] redbeardedpirate https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/file-server-concerns/64501/8 [11/18/2019 2:04 PM] michaelb5250 Is there like some kind of trick to logging in to the wiki? MakerManager user/pass aren't working... [11/18/2019 3:51 PM] yashsedai stop breaking things! [11/18/2019 4:02 PM] andrew5152 dms.local creds should do it [11/18/2019 4:03 PM] andrew5152 but I'm guessing you already know that [11/18/2019 4:03 PM] yashsedai lol those dont seem to be wroking either [11/18/2019 4:04 PM] andrew5152 hm. [11/18/2019 4:04 PM] andrew5152 maybe contact infrastructure folks? [11/18/2019 4:04 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [11/18/2019 4:05 PM] andrew5152 lol [11/18/2019 4:05 PM] andrew5152 it IS FUBARd [11/18/2019 4:05 PM] andrew5152 or is that SNAFUd? [11/18/2019 4:27 PM] yashsedai .... [11/18/2019 4:27 PM] yashsedai BOHICA [11/18/2019 4:29 PM] kentamanos TIL... [11/18/2019 4:32 PM] michaelb5250 But I enjoy breaking things... [11/18/2019 4:32 PM] michaelb5250 It's the only thing I'm good at [11/18/2019 4:32 PM] apparently_weird In my case it was a PEBKAC issue. Wiki doesnโ€™t like capitals nor special characters such as underscores. [11/18/2019 4:33 PM] kentamanos to be fair, that's only arguably a human's fault @Apparently_Weird ๐Ÿ™‚ [11/18/2019 4:33 PM] yashsedai the wiki is a bastard [11/18/2019 4:34 PM] yashsedai and now after digging more if you knew how it authenticated you would think so too [11/18/2019 4:34 PM] apparently_weird Exactly.. PEBKAC. Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair. [11/18/2019 4:34 PM] kentamanos I'm just trying to figure out how @A. Spencer(jast) wasn't the first to notice the problem ๐Ÿ™‚ [11/18/2019 4:34 PM] andrew5152 meeting @ work [11/18/2019 4:34 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [11/18/2019 4:35 PM] andrew5152 @yashsedai I know LukeS. did some wikked shyte to make it work with DMS.LOCAL creds. [11/18/2019 4:35 PM] andrew5152 I mean, seriously wikked. I think it involved chicken sacrifices and such... [11/18/2019 4:35 PM] yashsedai ya [11/18/2019 4:36 PM] yashsedai im noticing there was some... interesting stuff [11/18/2019 4:36 PM] yashsedai good thing it doesn't have to last forever [11/18/2019 4:36 PM] andrew5152 oh yea? New "wiki" in the works? [11/18/2019 4:36 PM] andrew5152 whatisitwhatisitwhatisit? [11/18/2019 4:37 PM] andrew5152 I know, come to an infra meeting... [11/18/2019 4:37 PM] yashsedai lol its called confluence [11/18/2019 4:37 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, been there, done that, trying to get mediawiki to do what you want. Fuuuuck that. [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] michaelb5250 Oh god seriously. [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] andrew5152 was just checking ou confluence today [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] andrew5152 I have no opinion [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] yashsedai its still better than mediawiki will ever be [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] yashsedai its not the best solution [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] yashsedai but its a solution [11/18/2019 4:38 PM] michaelb5250 I mean, it's probably better integrated, but damn it ran slow as hell at the last job [11/18/2019 4:39 PM] yashsedai thats cause its a damn resource hog [11/18/2019 4:39 PM] andrew5152 lol. I like mediawiki [11/18/2019 4:39 PM] yashsedai mediawiki is just bad software [11/18/2019 4:39 PM] andrew5152 but I ain't our audience. [11/18/2019 4:40 PM] andrew5152 does confluence do the "pretty page" think like those links Nicole threw up? Y'know, big tiles of pretty pictures that hide the evil submenus [11/18/2019 4:40 PM] aceat64 Confluence is written in Java [11/18/2019 4:40 PM] michaelb5250 I ain't going to complain about better editors and more organized pages, so I guess if we've got something decent to run it on... [11/18/2019 4:40 PM] andrew5152 wiki markup FTW! [11/19/2019 7:37 AM] nullinterface I use confluence at work. It has its strengths and weaknesses. [11/19/2019 7:37 AM] nullinterface editor freaks the f__k out occasionally, but that's the story of web apps [11/19/2019 7:45 AM] nullinterface I'm gonna ***assume** (because if I don't the horrors will keep me awake at night)* that there's some sort of graceful migration process to confluence and that edit histories will be preserved? [11/19/2019 7:46 AM] nullinterface I can understand that getting *wiki* edit histories to show up as *confluence* edit histories is an unreasonable ask [11/19/2019 8:00 AM] yashsedai lolololololololol [11/19/2019 8:01 AM] yashsedai i mean totally! [11/19/2019 8:33 AM] nullinterface is there some sort of automated migration of at least the present wiki content to Confluence? With some semblance of preserving existing formatting? [11/19/2019 8:44 AM] yashsedai lol doubtful [11/19/2019 9:22 AM] andrew5152 so is the plan to leave the wiki in place for historical content and start the confluence from scratch? [11/19/2019 9:27 AM] yashsedai not sure yet [11/19/2019 10:15 AM] michaelb5250 I think the plan is quite a ways out and we've twisted his arm to admit to it prematurely lol [11/19/2019 11:11 AM] kentamanos just curious, do we get Atlassian products for free since we're a non-profit and if so, is Confluence the only one being looked at? [11/19/2019 11:26 AM] yashsedai we get atlassian products gratis and jira helpdesk and confluence are the starting points, i'd be happy to entertain other suggestions [11/19/2019 11:45 AM] kentamanos It's quite possible that's all that really makes sense for now. At work we use BitBucket (git repo, but DMS is probably fine with github) and some Bamboo (our old build system we're replacing with Jenkins for the most part). [11/19/2019 11:46 AM] kentamanos I guess they own Trello now though, so that could be useful [11/19/2019 7:00 PM] limeytx Is the wiki working ok?? Me and Joe are trying to log in and getting invalid username/password [11/19/2019 7:01 PM] andrew5152 it's not. can't log in [11/19/2019 7:01 PM] yashsedai It is currently not working [11/19/2019 7:01 PM] andrew5152 freddy's on it... [11/19/2019 7:02 PM] limeytx Go Freddie go! [11/19/2019 7:02 PM] yashsedai i know the issue, i've asked for a fix ๐Ÿ˜› [11/19/2019 7:03 PM] andrew5152 it's easy. Just run unfoobar /wiki [11/19/2019 7:03 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [11/19/2019 7:03 PM] yashsedai if only [11/19/2019 7:07 PM] andrew5152 I *think* this is the original recipe, but I have no idea how Luke "massaged" it to make the login wedge work to begin with... but, maybe this will help {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/646516995092643850/unknown.png?ex=67b9235f&is=67b7d1df&hm=750ed7ba08702464c90dcc2b301b277369b9b0ec915e26ed8d5c24da437fd0cf& [11/19/2019 7:21 PM] aceat64 It's just using LDAP/AD, probably just can't talk to the AD server or the credentials it uses to bind changed [11/19/2019 7:23 PM] andrew5152 spoilsport [11/19/2019 7:23 PM] limeytx Lol [11/19/2019 8:03 PM] judykriehn3727 I think we should turn off the internet, then turn it back on again. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [11/19/2019 9:39 PM] yashsedai its a 404 error [11/19/2019 9:40 PM] yashsedai IPADDRESS - USERNAME [18/Nov/2019:15:46:35 +0000] "POST /blah/check-credentials HTTP/1.1" 404 306 "-" "-" [11/19/2019 11:42 PM] aceat64 Wait what [11/19/2019 11:43 PM] aceat64 Is it using some custom code to check auth against an microservice? [11/19/2019 11:43 PM] aceat64 There's LDAP/AD plugins for mediawiki, we were using one [11/19/2019 11:43 PM] aceat64 I set it up [11/19/2019 11:59 PM] andrew5152 haven't found the "discussion", but here's Luke's assertion that he created the plugin being used: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/update-regular-membership-meeting-committees-list-9-14-2018/42941/10?u=jast [11/19/2019 11:59 PM] andrew5152 there's some thread somewhere where he mentions the 'source' from which he started... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/20/2019 1:54 AM] yashsedai give the wiki a try again [11/20/2019 1:55 AM] yashsedai seems to be working [11/20/2019 7:17 AM] andrew5152 'tis indeed allowing login at this time... ๐Ÿ‘ [11/21/2019 3:37 PM] andrew5152 @aceat64 soo... discobot. your invention? Does it send a PM to all new users of Talk with its invitation to the tutorial? [11/21/2019 3:38 PM] aceat64 It's part of the forums, I didn't write it [11/21/2019 3:40 PM] andrew5152 ah. it sends a pm to all new users with the interactive tutorial? [11/21/2019 3:40 PM] andrew5152 (I don't recall getting this, and most folks evidently don't finish it, but I found it FUN!) [11/21/2019 3:49 PM] aceat64 yup [11/21/2019 3:49 PM] aceat64 it's fairly new [11/21/2019 3:49 PM] aceat64 it works amazingly well for teaching you how to use the software [11/21/2019 3:49 PM] aceat64 and anyone can start it by PMing the bot [11/21/2019 3:51 PM] andrew5152 Yup. I wanted to drop it in to the "read first" post... I'm not able to get that text into the post without invoking the tutorial though... [11/21/2019 6:43 PM] judykriehn3727 I found it amusing as well back in my early days of TALK. Followed by reading nearly every thread that existed at that time. [11/22/2019 1:12 AM] yashsedai https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/a-hearty-thanks/65310 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/a-hearty-thanks/65310 A hearty thanks I wanted to take a minute to recognize Andrew LeCody for his ongoing contributions of time, effort and knowledge. He went out of his way today/yesterday to help me with an issue that affected infrastructure and DMS as a whole. His historical knowledge and technical skill is ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png {Reactions} dms (2) [11/22/2019 2:15 AM] aceat64 glad to help [11/23/2019 8:56 PM] stephenie. @yashsedai would you be able to reach out to the Cintas rep to get the paper towel dispenser fixed? Ladies room, outside of Pillar of Solitude. The Ladies of the Space send their gratitude. [11/23/2019 9:21 PM] doug.emes The cable to the digital arts annex far wall is wonky. I'll pull a fresh one black friday. [11/23/2019 9:33 PM] yashsedai Same issue with some others [11/23/2019 9:33 PM] yashsedai Much appreciate let's coordinate [11/23/2019 9:50 PM] doug.emes Yes sir. I'll chat thursday online pre stuffing myself at grandmas [11/25/2019 3:54 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/648642641147199519/image0.png?ex=67b8f608&is=67b7a488&hm=3c2d7b969fa9f7b797797add9f74e9eb125357800d77b22128e8354a82e94f58& [11/25/2019 3:54 PM] robert22 Well thatโ€™s not good [11/25/2019 3:55 PM] robert22 I think itโ€™s a bit ridiculous to disable the api key [11/25/2019 3:56 PM] yashsedai that bs [11/25/2019 3:56 PM] robert22 Fun fact I think we still own it but I picked up the domain marketplace because people would constantly say Dallas Marketplace [11/25/2019 3:56 PM] aceat64 MM only uses 3 [11/25/2019 3:56 PM] aceat64 I wrote a new version of the smartwaiver component that uses v4 though [11/25/2019 3:56 PM] yashsedai can you please forward that? [11/25/2019 3:57 PM] yashsedai its cause andrew is the bomb [11/25/2019 3:57 PM] robert22 To who it went to back office [11/25/2019 3:57 PM] yashsedai nvm [11/25/2019 3:57 PM] yashsedai i'm blind af [11/25/2019 3:57 PM] aceat64 I'll merge that change so it can be deployed [11/25/2019 3:58 PM] robert22 Thanks Andrew [11/25/2019 4:19 PM] canibalcrab Good job nerds. I only slightly grasp what you are talking about but know it's important [11/25/2019 4:25 PM] yashsedai >.> [11/25/2019 4:25 PM] yashsedai NERD [11/25/2019 4:43 PM] michaelb5250 Meh, only one major version behind? [11/25/2019 4:44 PM] michaelb5250 We just jumped 12 major versions on the compiler we use for our DSPs. Thanks TI [11/25/2019 4:44 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/648655398165020683/image0.jpg?ex=67b901ea&is=67b7b06a&hm=4c3604b7f7a826074e829de5cf5cfaa23410bf187f4b03fc41b3e85de9f83943& [11/25/2019 4:45 PM] robert22 This is what I am trying to trouble shoot... WTF developer [11/25/2019 4:46 PM] yashsedai thats hilarious [11/25/2019 7:06 PM] hon1nbo lolwut? [11/25/2019 7:06 PM] hon1nbo not the best error message but it's getting up there [11/25/2019 7:12 PM] canibalcrab Muh kiosk is borked {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/648692424222441502/JPEG_20191125_191154.jpg?ex=67b92466&is=67b7d2e6&hm=0f89af6c7f879cdc15d91768a1331ab9453c9a02611dc59f7da57b87cc246612& [11/25/2019 7:24 PM] yashsedai Restart [11/25/2019 7:54 PM] canibalcrab Yer a wizard! [11/25/2019 9:46 PM] kentamanos @Robert I can relate and wonder about where white dog shit went every time I watch "Step Brothers"... Hehe [11/25/2019 10:00 PM] robert22 Haha I did get it working should see the error logs when it actually works [11/25/2019 11:19 PM] yashsedai @aceat64 is the man! [11/25/2019 11:24 PM] yashsedai He gets more Kudos! [11/25/2019 11:24 PM] yashsedai Thank you so much for rewriting the smartwaiver code! [11/26/2019 8:04 AM] kenpurcell I imagine his code is much better than back when we worked on RFID controller 0.1 ๐Ÿ˜‰ [11/27/2019 11:40 AM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/649303623163183104/image0.jpg?ex=67b9635f&is=67b811df&hm=81fdf2203a0ef1b86e230966f8d76f4fef0a7cc9b34d02e9a008756ff9f85ec6& [11/27/2019 11:41 AM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/649303676091105331/image0.jpg?ex=67b9636b&is=67b811eb&hm=780138efd08da004796ba62dbd75785df1abdf58355d260fe6ecc7f8dde3a7ed& [11/27/2019 11:41 AM] robert22 Anyone else have a problem where they canโ€™t update there address? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/649303743199838219/image0.jpg?ex=67b9637b&is=67b811fb&hm=ae1f0816e5f10a69c5cac2ebe43508eae0c7120363cd3f587a5845a5dd3d5f94& [11/27/2019 11:47 AM] yashsedai lol [11/27/2019 11:47 AM] yashsedai unfortunately yes [11/27/2019 11:47 AM] yashsedai its not funny lol [11/27/2019 11:48 AM] yashsedai its hit your head against the desk until bloody lol [12/5/2019 4:20 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/652273040943480873/IMG_20191205_155458236.jpg?ex=67b8fc1b&is=67b7aa9b&hm=55c39db8b6ef31714d9ed1aede8952fa60c6bdaf54e5232ac4b8b718530824e5& [12/5/2019 4:20 PM] robert22 Haha [12/5/2019 4:20 PM] nullinterface Laser kiosk iPad supposed to be bowing like that? [12/5/2019 4:20 PM] robert22 Told infra about that a few months ago [12/5/2019 4:20 PM] robert22 Negative [12/5/2019 4:21 PM] robert22 I have called apple they donโ€™t seem to care but it happens on always charging applications [12/5/2019 4:22 PM] nullinterface Doesn't run gracefully from USB power I suppose [12/5/2019 4:22 PM] nullinterface Never not charging the battery [12/5/2019 4:22 PM] robert22 Noticed itโ€™s about 2-3 years [12/5/2019 4:22 PM] robert22 It actually has a pretty good run [12/5/2019 4:23 PM] robert22 There cheap iPads so just needs to be replaced [12/5/2019 4:37 PM] canibalcrab It's been replaced once recently [12/5/2019 4:37 PM] canibalcrab That kiosk is eating ipads [12/5/2019 6:08 PM] michaelb5250 I talked to freddy about it a few weeks ago. The plan is to replace the kiosk and iPad. [12/5/2019 7:49 PM] yashsedai it was replaced [12/5/2019 7:49 PM] yashsedai this is a second one [12/5/2019 7:49 PM] yashsedai the base seems to be the problem [12/5/2019 7:59 PM] canibalcrab It's not plugged into the 220v power strip somehow is it? [12/5/2019 8:00 PM] yashsedai dont think so [12/5/2019 9:05 PM] andrew5152 don't those power adapters flex for "world power"? [12/5/2019 9:14 PM] yashsedai nfc [12/5/2019 9:23 PM] andrew5152 that's what's swelling? [12/5/2019 9:23 PM] andrew5152 weird... [12/5/2019 9:48 PM] canibalcrab the battery is swelling [12/9/2019 11:42 PM] aceat64 well shit, I just realized, I was wrong, I did change the switches up a bit during the clean up [12/9/2019 11:43 PM] aceat64 I replaced an 8 port with a 48 port [12/9/2019 11:43 PM] aceat64 so it's not the same amount of ports as before the cleanup [12/10/2019 6:42 AM] kenpurcell Damn, why the improvement!? More is not better! [12/10/2019 5:04 PM] canibalcrab WiFi seems strong in common room {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/654096248403656717/Screenshot_20191210-170430.png?ex=67b9069a&is=67b7b51a&hm=24bbac845d9c298cfb27d32f4dc54111876ff5ac8d3b44b36d73e5e81036955c& [12/10/2019 6:20 PM] yashsedai the force is strong [12/10/2019 6:20 PM] aceat64 Expand it out and look at the channels though [12/10/2019 6:21 PM] aceat64 Since we've got stuff on 2.4 and 5ghz [12/10/2019 6:40 PM] andrew5152 I'm probably a 2.5 user, since all my shit's always ancient, but honestly, @dms wifi = bad in my experience. Always has been. Even when I have a "newer" whatchamcomputhingy [12/10/2019 6:42 PM] aceat64 Any particular area you notice issues? [12/10/2019 6:44 PM] aceat64 Also could you elaborate on bad, could help us figure out if it's packet loss, low bandwidth or latency issues [12/10/2019 6:44 PM] andrew5152 hm. Everywhere. Usually in a classroom (classic area; I haven't really had time to "use" the recent additions). Conference room. Purple. common. [12/10/2019 6:44 PM] andrew5152 lecture, so pretty much, all the classrooms in the classic section [12/10/2019 6:45 PM] aceat64 Like was signal strength low or high [12/10/2019 6:45 PM] robert22 Could it be the power is turned up too high and it does not hand off well [12/10/2019 6:45 PM] andrew5152 impossible to browse during class [12/10/2019 6:45 PM] andrew5152 drops chromecast during class [12/10/2019 6:45 PM] aceat64 Slow initial load on webpage but then once started loads fast, things like that [12/10/2019 6:45 PM] andrew5152 cannot connect to either SID [12/10/2019 6:46 PM] aceat64 Wait, it can't even associate? [12/10/2019 6:46 PM] andrew5152 no. flat out spinning 'load indicator' and then....more waiting [12/10/2019 6:46 PM] andrew5152 yep. with my own equipment I cannot connect period. [12/10/2019 6:46 PM] andrew5152 with DMS equipment, unable to browse, cast, file browse [12/10/2019 6:47 PM] aceat64 Weird [12/10/2019 6:47 PM] andrew5152 Now that my phone is only 1 generation old (S10) I don't think I've even tried [12/10/2019 6:48 PM] andrew5152 my moto I had until ~8months ago never could connect [12/10/2019 6:48 PM] robert22 I would try to lower the power of the APโ€™s [12/10/2019 6:48 PM] robert22 On 2.4 [12/10/2019 6:48 PM] andrew5152 S4 prior to that connected back in '15 or so, but not since '17, at the latest [12/10/2019 6:48 PM] canibalcrab Since TMobile is dead around the space I'm almost always on DMS wifi [12/10/2019 6:48 PM] aceat64 I don't think they're all that close though [12/10/2019 6:49 PM] aceat64 Normally I think we'd lower power for higher density [12/10/2019 6:49 PM] canibalcrab No issues for me unless I'm in back parking lot [12/10/2019 6:50 PM] robert22 Need to do a site survey around most of the rooms to know for sure [12/10/2019 6:52 PM] aceat64 @yashsedai we're still on ubnt access points right? Is the firmware up-to-date? [12/10/2019 6:52 PM] aceat64 And, is zero hand-off turned off (it doesn't always work great) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [12/10/2019 6:53 PM] aceat64 It's a neat idea, but doesn't play well with everyone [12/10/2019 6:54 PM] robert22 Ubnt should have auto channel and power [12/10/2019 6:54 PM] aceat64 Yeah [12/10/2019 6:55 PM] aceat64 I wonder if we have a bunch of old 802.11b junk sitting on the wifi [12/10/2019 6:55 PM] aceat64 That'll fuck it up real good [12/10/2019 6:57 PM] aceat64 Or the announcement data rate got pushed up [12/10/2019 7:09 PM] yashsedai Yes [12/10/2019 7:09 PM] yashsedai We do [12/10/2019 7:09 PM] yashsedai We are gonna play hunt the old wifi shit [12/10/2019 7:13 PM] mizgeek I use my mid-2011 Mac Air on wirelessly in CA all the time. I print from there... Works great on my phone, too... Many Pokรฉmon have been caught. It that the ghost power of common-room-networks-past? [12/10/2019 9:12 PM] michaelb5250 WiFi is good for me. I usually connect up in the back parking lot and don't drop while I'm at the space. I use DMS Members [12/11/2019 6:43 AM] kenpurcell Really have issues with WiFi. The new lobby is sometimes slow but generally good. [12/12/2019 2:53 PM] kevpat I ran nmap on the network and found a bunch of little things on the network. Maybe play a game with it Saturday for the Infrastucture hackathon [12/12/2019 3:08 PM] hon1nbo @Kevin please talk to infra before doing things like this [12/12/2019 3:09 PM] hon1nbo it's a good way to crash smaller devices [12/12/2019 3:37 PM] yashsedai Kevin..... {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [12/13/2019 12:35 PM] kevpat Sorry dad [12/14/2019 10:56 AM] aceat64 https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/storage-kiosk-app {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/storage-kiosk-app Dallas-Makerspace/storage-kiosk-app Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/storage-kiosk-app development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [12/14/2019 11:28 AM] aceat64 https://12factor.net/ {Embed} https://12factor.net/ The Twelve-Factor App A methodology for building modern, scalable, maintainable software-as-a-service apps. [12/14/2019 2:42 PM] stephenie. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/655509932036325421/IMG_20191214_144123.jpg?ex=67b8e532&is=67b793b2&hm=1adbe4fa525917b06387ab78c757e8d7c47fbd44a08ffbdf04a61bb8e8f825c3& [12/14/2019 2:43 PM] stephenie. "Infrastructure Hackathon-ers At Work" [12/14/2019 4:12 PM] aceat64 ``` 2 days before First Sunday, 2pm Email all users with tickets expiring that month First Sunday, 2pm Email all users with tickets expiring that month ``` [12/14/2019 4:14 PM] aceat64 ``` 2 day before First Sunday, 2pm Email logistics with list of tickets expiring this month ``` [12/14/2019 7:15 PM] aceat64 anyone know what these are being used for? I've found a few on raspberry pis at the space: https://openlabs.co/store/pi-6lowpan-slip-radio [12/14/2019 7:19 PM] kenpurcell I think that is for some beacon system someone in electronics was/is working on? [12/14/2019 7:21 PM] aceat64 specs seem to indicate they can opperate on 2.4ghz, which could explain issues people are having with older gear on the wifi [12/14/2019 7:21 PM] aceat64 I pulled the drive from one of the rpis, it seems to be running RIOT, a chat software [12/14/2019 7:50 PM] aceat64 To be clear, this doesn't seem malicious or anything but I'm going to be writing a pipeline to image these rpis, so if they need software to support whatever they are doing I'd need to roll it into the image [12/14/2019 7:51 PM] canibalcrab It's for tracking small tools around the space [12/14/2019 7:51 PM] canibalcrab There's some Ryobi tools with them inside them now [12/14/2019 7:52 PM] aceat64 Really? That's pretty cool, I'd love to see how it works [12/14/2019 8:22 PM] doug.emes Benemorius [12/15/2019 3:47 PM] andrew5152 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/infrastructure-hackathon-sat-dec-14th-2019/65938/16?u=jast @aceat64 and co. you did awesome work! (Wish I would have thought to toss into that mix: fix the colors on the calendar mobile site so you can see the "hamburger menu" choices. This seems really easy to me, and would have been another one of those "ah, thank goodness someone finally ticked that box" moments, like Judy's typographical correction... but what do I know... Good job, gang! {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/infrastructure-hackathon-sat-dec-14th-2019/65938/16?u=jast Infrastructure Hackathon - Sat Dec 14th 2019 It went really well and Iโ€™d like to again thank all the members who came out and helped! Here are some of the things we accomplished: Storage Kiosk Uploaded the code to a github repo Switched over to using a database instead of a flat text file to record storage tickets ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/2wQVFlIBT1pCBcJdZaJzvuk2nZHsQBRgSPVPJKVw8ZM/https/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/user_avatar/talk.dallasmakerspace.org/andrewlecody/200/33993_2.png [12/15/2019 3:48 PM] aceat64 are the colors weird on mobile? [12/15/2019 3:48 PM] aceat64 oh I see it [12/15/2019 3:49 PM] talkers @aceat64 is that what Thomas is running? [12/15/2019 3:49 PM] andrew5152 yeah. Grayish text in bluish background makes for not being able to see "hosting events" and the like once logged in [12/15/2019 4:01 PM] aceat64 ok, fixed [12/15/2019 4:01 PM] aceat64 you'll have to clear cache [12/15/2019 4:04 PM] aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/655892999959478272/Screenshot_20191215-160417.png?ex=67b8f875&is=67b7a6f5&hm=49788e59bef59b647ceaf81151f8371228273fd96bace0adfabda1456d4259e4& [12/15/2019 4:46 PM] andrew5152 WOOHOO! (don't know the happyjig dance emoji on here, but would use) [12/15/2019 4:46 PM] andrew5152 May I ask what that took? [12/15/2019 4:51 PM] aceat64 a small bit of css [12/15/2019 5:22 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ‘ [12/15/2019 11:12 PM] doug.emes How long has the voip been down, do we know? I'd be down over the holiday week to work on it and redo it. [12/15/2019 11:19 PM] yashsedai Voip is not down [12/15/2019 11:20 PM] yashsedai but moved to 3CX [12/15/2019 11:32 PM] doug.emes So we need to preregister the sip endpoints [12/15/2019 11:32 PM] doug.emes Reregister. [12/16/2019 1:47 PM] aceat64 https://bakery.cakephp.org/2019/12/15/cakephp_400_released.html {Embed} https://bakery.cakephp.org/2019/12/15/cakephp_400_released.html CakePHP 4.0.0 Released โ€” Bakery Latest news and articles about CakePHP [12/16/2019 1:47 PM] aceat64 Finally, this is what I've been waiting for with the maker manager rewrite [12/16/2019 1:50 PM] andrew5152 if I may as, as a total idjit, what does cakephp4 bring to that project that 3.x didn't have? [12/16/2019 1:52 PM] andrew5152 OH. Probably this bit: This is release begins a new chapter for CakePHP as 4.0 is now API stable. [12/16/2019 2:10 PM] aceat64 Mainly it means anything I write will be supported for much longer [12/16/2019 2:18 PM] kenpurcell Mmmmm cake [12/16/2019 2:41 PM] nullinterface all I need to know about PHP I get from PHP CEO [12/16/2019 2:43 PM] nullinterface https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/1152245147595415553 {Embed} PHP CEO (@PHP_CEO) https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/1152245147595415553 MY EDUCATED GUESSES ARE ASTONISHING INTUITIVE LEAPS, FORGED IN THE FIRE OF EXPERIENCE BY A CUNNING INTELLECT YOUR GUESSES ARE RANDOM GARBAGE WHICH REVEAL HOW PROFOUNDLY STUPID AND WRONG YOU ARE ABOUT EVERYTHING, AND HINT AT DEEP AND IRREDEEMABLE CHARACTER FLAWS Likes 332 Twitter [12/16/2019 2:50 PM] aceat64 one of my favorite twitter accounts [12/16/2019 3:02 PM] yashsedai yes [12/16/2019 3:05 PM] aceat64 https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/435105782829305857 {Embed} PHP CEO (@PHP_CEO) https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/435105782829305857 IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT SOMEONE CALLED JASON HAS BEEN ENCODING AND DECODING DATA IN OUR APP. PLEASE CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS Retweets 4426 Likes 2976 Twitter [12/16/2019 3:59 PM] michaelb5250 Hey can someone make me owner of the laser group? Or at least add @squaredroots to it? [12/16/2019 4:00 PM] nullinterface @pearce would do that... [12/16/2019 4:00 PM] aceat64 I assume he means on Talk [12/16/2019 4:01 PM] aceat64 which would be more of a @yashsedai thing or someone else with similar permissions [12/16/2019 4:02 PM] michaelb5250 Oh, sorry, on talk. I didnt think discord worked like that. [12/16/2019 4:02 PM] aceat64 it doesn't, which is why I figured you meant talk ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/16/2019 4:02 PM] michaelb5250 Though I still can't post in #committee_chairs.... [12/16/2019 4:02 PM] aceat64 laser committee chair right? [12/16/2019 4:04 PM] aceat64 @michaelb fixed [12/16/2019 4:05 PM] michaelb5250 Ayyyy thanks [12/16/2019 4:06 PM] michaelb5250 Now I'll probably never post in there, but that's life [12/16/2019 5:48 PM] andrew5152 Freddy, Jim, and Lara are, as far as I know, the only people who can change owners of a group, although the existing owners could bestow this power and then remove themselves and/or you could remove them (I think, having never actually participated in such events) [12/16/2019 6:05 PM] canibalcrab Its just me and Andrew on here. I was waiting for all the chairs to be named [12/22/2019 9:19 PM] johntron0 Are we still able to use VPN? I'm trying to setup on my mac, and auth fails. I tried resetting my password with WHMCS, but still getting "AUTH: Received control message: AUTH_FAILED" with Tunnelblick. [12/22/2019 10:38 PM] hon1nbo there isn't a reason to VPN into the network [12/22/2019 10:38 PM] hon1nbo so we don't really maintain it [12/22/2019 10:39 PM] hon1nbo if it was still online that's because of someone not explicitly removing it, but IMO it adds risk to both DMS and the user without any real benefit [12/22/2019 10:39 PM] hon1nbo you can mount the share through RDP, SFTP, SCP, and other methods already [12/22/2019 10:49 PM] johntron0 ah ok. I just renewed my membership and wanted to view some of the "Approved Trained Users" to see what I'm still certified for. [12/22/2019 10:51 PM] johntron0 Any way to access 192.168.200.32:8080 from outside? [12/22/2019 10:52 PM] aceat64 RDP to the jump server, I assume that's a webpage? [12/22/2019 10:53 PM] johntron0 ah ok [12/22/2019 10:56 PM] johntron0 Yeah - that worked. Thanks @aceat64 and @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12/26/2019 5:17 PM] robert22 Is anyone going to DMS that can look at the Powermatic Sawโ€™s interlock it appears that the antenna could be damaged [12/26/2019 6:27 PM] michaelb5250 Lol that 3D Fab camera on the website is still pointing to the old room [12/30/2019 3:06 AM] hon1nbo @aceat64 any idea why Talk doesn't use G Suite for it's outbound email? [12/30/2019 3:06 AM] hon1nbo seems like something that might have been done legacy wise, but I'm unsure. Currently debugging why a user on outlook.com doesn't get our talk emails, but gets our g suite ones [12/30/2019 3:07 AM] hon1nbo talk is currently using an smtp gateway from sparkpost [12/30/2019 8:16 AM] robert22 I believe the answer was blacklist protection to monitor rejects and spam lists to make sure the account was not blacklisted. [12/30/2019 8:16 AM] aceat64 It sends too many emails [12/30/2019 8:16 AM] aceat64 G suite has a limit to how many emails a user can send per day [12/30/2019 8:23 AM] canibalcrab You could remedy this by turning off the option to have all the talk posts converted into emails. [12/30/2019 8:24 AM] canibalcrab We turned that on because people didn't want to leave the Gmail thread system we were using. (it was awful, and if you wanted any posts you got all the posts) [12/30/2019 8:25 AM] aceat64 It defaults to not sending emails except for things like PMs [12/30/2019 8:25 AM] aceat64 And tags [12/30/2019 8:25 AM] robert22 I donโ€™t get everything just PMโ€™s [12/30/2019 8:25 AM] aceat64 People have to turn on the feature to send an email for every thread/post {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [12/30/2019 8:25 AM] aceat64 Even without that it would be too many emails [12/30/2019 8:26 AM] aceat64 The g suite limit is very low [12/30/2019 8:27 AM] robert22 2k per day [12/30/2019 3:16 PM] hon1nbo well we have delivery problems with outlook.com from the sounds of it. We don't have SPF/DKIM/DMARC setup for any of this. The fact that our MX records are all google, but we have another sender will contribute to rejections [12/30/2019 3:17 PM] hon1nbo also FYI, G Suite's limits for SMTP are far beyond what I think we need: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2956491#sendinglimitsforrelay {Embed} https://support.google.com/a/answer/2956491 SMTP relay: Route outgoing non-Gmail messages through Google - G S... If you have the legacy free edition of G Suite, upgrade to Gย Suite Basicย to get this feature.ย  If your organization uses Microsoftยฎ Exchange or another non-Gmailย SMTP [12/30/2019 4:04 PM] michaelb5250 It looks like we're only sending hundreds of emails per day, not thousands [12/30/2019 4:04 PM] michaelb5250 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/admin/reports/emails [12/30/2019 4:10 PM] yashsedai I'll fix the records. [12/31/2019 9:43 AM] michaelb5250 How do y'all feel about bridges? We're trying to make the Zing portable and it requires a network connection, but only has a wired option. [12/31/2019 9:46 AM] stephenie. *(this is so cool)* [12/31/2019 9:48 AM] michaelb5250 Oh actually looks like there's a USB option nevermind ๐Ÿ˜… [12/31/2019 9:48 AM] canibalcrab Nailed it [12/31/2019 9:49 AM] michaelb5250 It might take me a bit but I'll get there eventually [12/31/2019 12:35 PM] aceat64 WiFi bridges work well enough [1/6/2020 8:25 PM] doug.emes Can @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium or @yashsedai edit event 14962 to this Tuesday jan 7? Daniel forgot to schedule them in time. Still pillar normal 7 to 10pm for the gamers [1/7/2020 12:06 AM] yashsedai done [1/7/2020 12:55 AM] doug.emes Thank you [1/7/2020 7:54 AM] michaelb5250 Could someone edit the Laser Meeting down from 2-6 to 2-4 in purple? I added a second entry for cleaning day that runs 3-6 at the lasers. No sense tieing up the classroom when we won't be there. [1/7/2020 10:38 AM] judykriehn3727 Calendar question: There is a checkbox in registrations for text updates. Is there some secret way that an instructor or event leader can tap into that to send reminders to registrants? The only time Iโ€™ve ever gotten a text from the system was when a class was cancelled outright. [1/7/2020 10:42 AM] andrew5152 this is wild shot in the dark, but the attendee list shows phone number, that MIGHT be their text receiving phone number... {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [1/14/2020 6:31 PM] michaelb5250 Kinda minor, but is the 3D fab camera going to be updated on the cameras page? [1/17/2020 6:53 AM] kenpurcell Robert sent a link to AWS for non-profits. Basically $2,000 in service credits for $175 https://www.techsoup.org/products/amazon-web-services-credits-for-nonprofits--G-50197-- [1/17/2020 8:48 AM] yashsedai yep [1/17/2020 8:48 AM] yashsedai i got it! [1/17/2020 8:56 AM] kenpurcell +1 thanks Freddy [1/17/2020 9:04 AM] andrew5152 woo! [1/17/2020 8:59 PM] johntron0 What's DMS's infrastructure like? Is it all on-prem, cloud, or hybrid cloud? [1/17/2020 9:01 PM] johntron0 nvm - found https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Infrastructure {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Infrastructure Infrastructure [1/17/2020 9:01 PM] johntron0 ๐Ÿ˜„ [1/17/2020 9:01 PM] johntron0 should've checked there first... [1/17/2020 9:01 PM] johntron0 .... and then read "Note as of 2019-12-16: Much of the information on this page appears to be obsolete thus should not be considered a decisive reference until it is updated." [1/17/2020 9:03 PM] johntron0 I'll poke around [1/17/2020 9:04 PM] aceat64 Most all of the core stuff is on AWS [1/17/2020 9:04 PM] aceat64 There's some on prem, especially for the stuff that kind of needs to be, like the file server, jump server, etc [1/17/2020 10:24 PM] michaelb5250 I mean, technically those could be hosted with a VPN to the space ๐Ÿ˜ [1/17/2020 10:29 PM] hon1nbo Some stuff can't tolerate an internet outage so well though [1/18/2020 12:18 AM] aceat64 I imagine latency might also suck for the jump server, but I don't use RDP ever so I'm not sure [1/18/2020 1:07 AM] michaelb5250 I haven't gotten to test from a really far away location, but something like portal or Skyrim is completely playable when I sit at the makerspace and RDP into my desktop over an openvpn tunnel. It's probably worse with more hops but I dont have too many chances to test that. [1/18/2020 1:15 AM] aceat64 I'm horrified [1/18/2020 1:24 AM] michaelb5250 It takes a windows client at the moment but I'll bring it up someday. [1/19/2020 7:50 AM] apparently_weird Gooooood morning infrastructure... when someone with camera access logs in, can you please ping me? Thank you. [1/19/2020 11:29 AM] apparently_weird Thanks @yashsedai [1/19/2020 11:29 AM] yashsedai Ty! [1/19/2020 10:04 PM] redbeardedpirate a drive in the file server has failed [1/19/2020 10:04 PM] redbeardedpirate *files* hostname [1/19/2020 10:06 PM] redbeardedpirate correction. 2 drives in the file server have failed. 1 HDD for data and 1 SSD for caching. [1/19/2020 10:07 PM] redbeardedpirate if a 4TB HDD is available then i'm happy to swap it out [1/19/2020 10:10 PM] redbeardedpirate i wouldn't bother replacing the SSD used for caching at this point. brass on the titanic cause that shit is all old [1/19/2020 10:12 PM] redbeardedpirate Device Model: ST4000DM000-1F2168 Serial Number: Z300XQRA [1/19/2020 10:16 PM] redbeardedpirate @yashsedai [1/19/2020 10:17 PM] yashsedai Checking [1/19/2020 10:17 PM] yashsedai Not sure if we have a 4tb [1/19/2020 10:17 PM] yashsedai Either way we can get one [1/19/2020 10:20 PM] redbeardedpirate can be larger than 4TB too [1/19/2020 10:21 PM] redbeardedpirate or if you buy one, let me know. i'm happy to help get it back to normal. [1/19/2020 10:21 PM] redbeardedpirate in general it's time to replace that whole system. the drives are 6 years old and the host is like 10 years old since the original host died and it was kludged back into working [1/20/2020 8:59 AM] kenpurcell Can someone prep an estimate of cost and impacts during upgrade? Also wouldn't it be wise to tell people to cleanup their folders? Probably like people's garages which has collected tons of crap. [1/20/2020 9:52 AM] michaelb5250 6 year old... consumer drives? Wow. [1/20/2020 9:55 AM] kenpurcell 24/7 as well in a closet that occasionally the cooling is not adequate. [1/20/2020 7:48 PM] apparently_weird Is anyone aware the security system in old lobby is beeping and reads โ€œsystem troubleโ€? [1/20/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 There is a talk post on it [1/20/2020 7:49 PM] apparently_weird Ok. Just walked in so wasnโ€™t sure [1/20/2020 7:49 PM] yashsedai Landlord has been notified [1/20/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 Thanks! [1/20/2020 8:06 PM] apparently_weird All systems normal per old lobby panel now. [1/22/2020 1:15 PM] apparently_weird Someone messaged our Facebook account for a status update on ticket #909628. Could someone take a look and PM me a response? [1/22/2020 2:41 PM] yashsedai It's been handled [1/25/2020 2:27 AM] redbeardedpirate Replacement drive for file server? ๐Ÿง [1/25/2020 2:28 AM] redbeardedpirate @michaelb consumer drives are perfectly acceptable for zfs [1/25/2020 2:29 AM] michaelb5250 I've just always heard the whole story about consumer drives not being resilient to the vibration of so many drives so close together [1/25/2020 2:30 AM] michaelb5250 No idea what's good for what specific storage architectures [1/25/2020 2:31 AM] redbeardedpirate Drives no like vibration, true. But drives themselves don't cause any issue [1/25/2020 2:31 AM] redbeardedpirate https://youtu.be/tDacjrSCeq4 {Embed} Bryan Cantrill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4 Shouting in the Datacenter Brendan Gregg from Sun's Fishworks team makes an interesting discovery about inducing disk latency. For more details, see Brendan's blog entry: http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/unusual_disk_latency https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1MZg4n44tNTngFfaD05qr8srp9vLLmfeLMVc_kIUPGw/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/tDacjrSCeq4/hqdefault.jpg [1/25/2020 2:41 AM] redbeardedpirate Unless your drives sound like someone yelling when they run... [1/25/2020 9:13 AM] michaelb5250 Holy crap that's pretty funny [1/25/2020 9:27 AM] kenpurcell Ahhhhhhwhwhwhhwwhh!! [1/25/2020 9:27 AM] redbeardedpirate Lol [1/25/2020 9:49 AM] robert22 I was reading a white paper on damage caused to hard drives by fire suppression. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8q8dqg/a-loud-sound-just-shut-down-a-banks-data-center-for-10-hours {Embed} https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8q8dqg/a-loud-sound-just-shut-down-a-banks-data-center-for-10-hours A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours Dozens of hard drives were knocked down during a fire drill that involved inert gas deployment. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aF_IprcRvgmKHZGOkgaeLdGDt0cTE2tZfoOSm0A44RY/%3Fcrop%3D1xw%3A0.846xh%3Bcenter%2Ccenter%26resize%3D1200%3A%2A/https/images.vice.com/motherboard/content-images/article/37432/1473612659958660.jpg [1/25/2020 10:11 AM] redbeardedpirate @yashsedai spare 4TB or larger drive? Or like a 14TB drive to backup the entire pool [1/25/2020 10:11 AM] redbeardedpirate Oh shit, they have 16TB drives now [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] yashsedai lol [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] yashsedai no [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] yashsedai they expensive [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] canibalcrab Ok ok [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] canibalcrab 32 TB [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] redbeardedpirate Sold [1/25/2020 10:12 AM] yashsedai mind recommending one from amazon? [1/25/2020 10:15 AM] redbeardedpirate https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07D9C7SQH {Embed} https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07D9C7SQH Amazon.com: Seagate BarraCuda 4TB Internal Hard Drive HDD โ€“ 3.5 ... Buy Seagate BarraCuda 4TB Internal Hard Drive HDD - 3.5 Inch Sata 6 Gb/s 5400 RPM 256MB Cache for Computer Desktop PC - Frustration Free Packaging (ST4000DM004): Electronics - Amazon.com โœ“ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases [1/25/2020 10:16 AM] redbeardedpirate That's what's in there now [1/25/2020 10:16 AM] redbeardedpirate And it's cheap [1/25/2020 10:17 AM] redbeardedpirate You can pay $20 more so it says NAS... But I don't think it's worth it. [1/25/2020 10:17 AM] redbeardedpirate https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-5900RPM-Internal-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H289S79 [1/25/2020 10:44 AM] yashsedai ordered! [1/25/2020 10:44 AM] yashsedai thank you! [1/27/2020 9:47 PM] aceat64 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/671561853108879370/IMG_20200127_210101.jpg?ex=67b948b6&is=67b7f736&hm=4780e7af24d5893f7455c8e2b82e49262755e52c8107ec5e77feb2fb3a3bf108& [1/27/2020 9:48 PM] aceat64 Machine shop and surrounding areas should have better wifi now [1/27/2020 9:48 PM] aceat64 AP wasn't wired so great [1/28/2020 7:03 AM] hon1nbo We're supposed to be using the B wiring.... Right? I'm not crazy am I? [1/28/2020 7:36 AM] yashsedai lol [1/28/2020 7:36 AM] yashsedai we are using B as far as i can tell [1/28/2020 10:04 AM] redbeardedpirate ETA for that replacement drive? [1/28/2020 10:08 AM] yashsedai its here [1/28/2020 10:08 AM] yashsedai came yesterday [1/28/2020 10:09 AM] yashsedai will bring it down tonight [1/29/2020 9:59 AM] redbeardedpirate I can swap it tonight or tomorrow. Or I can guide someone else to if they want to do it sooner [1/29/2020 9:59 AM] redbeardedpirate Just one line command after physically swapping the drive [1/29/2020 9:40 PM] redbeardedpirate Swapping the drive. The server room is *very* warm [1/29/2020 9:41 PM] redbeardedpirate Currently 85 with the door open for a while. Was probably 95+ when I came in [1/29/2020 9:42 PM] redbeardedpirate Virtually no airflow from the AC vent pointing into the room [1/29/2020 9:42 PM] yashsedai thanks for letting me know, it was fairly warm earlier [1/29/2020 9:45 PM] redbeardedpirate Want the door left open or closed? @yashsedai [1/29/2020 9:45 PM] redbeardedpirate I'm about to leave [1/29/2020 9:45 PM] yashsedai please close it [1/29/2020 9:45 PM] redbeardedpirate ๐Ÿ‘ [1/29/2020 9:48 PM] robert22 You mean the bitcoin heaters are not doing there job [1/29/2020 9:53 PM] yashsedai lol no more bitcoin heaters thankfully [1/29/2020 9:54 PM] robert22 Haha maybe onto something everyone else uses space heaters DMS runs pcโ€™s in rooms to stay warm in the winter [1/29/2020 10:06 PM] ferricyanide7475 I had heard the bitcoin heaters existed but was curious when they were finally removed? just curious [1/29/2020 10:18 PM] michaelb5250 I wouldn't be surprised if the server room had some but I believe the heating function of the laser computers was turned off January of 2018 [1/29/2020 10:28 PM] robert22 Random but just took some drone video of PHX realized I need to reduce the sudden movement but looks overall pretty good [1/29/2020 10:28 PM] robert22 https://photos.app.goo.gl/DiZbauXLCANsRMZP9 {Embed} https://photos.app.goo.gl/DiZbauXLCANsRMZP9 New video by Robert Davidson https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/99-XISOSAY5qMrNF67VnJJ-J9z9FFT_ATAXPy5heM28/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/5_Zo_YXDs5svAxqlDGgMODzZqsx3BsDBKuOT8jO8MRZVvRvDdH6SaGhz8NAWfJLCBLdVqVKqo16RQZ7vp5Npco-1NDttaM6REPGgJYIj7VaqJ_3xAh4cH2AY0E-zt3F0RSVbXyVA-t0%3Dw600-h315-p-k-no [1/31/2020 7:01 AM] redbeardedpirate https://www.spartonre.com/littlepcs/wpc-725f-rugged-fanless-waterproof-pc/ {Embed} https://www.spartonre.com/littlepcs/wpc-725f-rugged-fanless-waterproof-pc/ Sealed Waterproof PC Computer - Sparton Rugged Electronics A completelyย Sealedย Mobile Waterproof PC for harsh environment & marine applications. Dust, rain and splash resistant, Sealed to IP67/NEMA 6 specifications https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7dfrHJ7Mf01xsjwhM9e-eS9LAmSDH39nZKXkvNdABYc/https/www.spartonre.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/WPC-525F_frontwet1_large.jpg [1/31/2020 7:25 AM] kenpurcell Oh man a friend of mine would have been all over that in 2001. He went to great lengths to get a mini-itx working in his car. [1/31/2020 7:25 AM] kenpurcell The origiinal VIA motherboards sucked so bad. [1/31/2020 11:33 AM] hon1nbo I had forgotten about the friggin Vias. Such a picky x86 processor [1/31/2020 12:15 PM] kenpurcell They did not like even moderate temps. They were barely fast enough and then when they got warm, no worky. [2/1/2020 11:56 AM] redbeardedpirate something like that might be useful for the woodshop computer if the zero client thing is causing issues [2/1/2020 11:56 AM] redbeardedpirate i think they went with zero client originally to save money compared to a dustproof/waterproof computer [2/1/2020 11:57 AM] redbeardedpirate or maybe it was a software license thing? i dunno [2/1/2020 11:59 AM] kenpurcell After Mitch's rundown videos on talk I would trust his opinion on what makes it better. [2/1/2020 12:47 PM] yashsedai It's not gonna fix the problem [2/1/2020 12:48 PM] yashsedai The issue is our storage of cnc files on the file share [2/1/2020 12:56 PM] canibalcrab Like the gcode? [2/1/2020 1:48 PM] michaelb5250 In his defense, Mitch has seen a tons more multicam setups than we have, if he's got suggestions on how to improve ours it's worth trying. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [2/1/2020 3:38 PM] canibalcrab Almost like he worked for multicam {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [2/1/2020 5:53 PM] kentamanos A HUGE amount of flakiness is just the fact it runs in "Startup" on the jump server instead of running as a service. [2/1/2020 6:50 PM] hon1nbo last I recall it did not have a proper service, but rather we had to run on startup. Running on a dedicated computer wouldn't solve the issue of the program crashing and needing to be restarted. If it has a proper service then that would be a solution, but otherwise software will invariably crash and if it's not a proper service a local computer just adds more problems than it solves [2/1/2020 7:18 PM] yashsedai So after watching the video Mitch made, I still hold the same conclusion. The issue here is one of training and lots of moving parts. In order for a user to use the multicam, the following things have to occur. The controller has to be on. Big gray box next to the machine Machine tools has to be running on the jump server The machine tools hardware token has to be present. The mapped drive has to be available and mapped. [2/1/2020 7:18 PM] yashsedai I've heard two issues so far [2/1/2020 7:19 PM] yashsedai One is that you have to unplug the ethernet cable to the multicam in order to get it to actually load up the controller on the pendant. Two is that files are sometime inaccessible from the pendant. [2/1/2020 7:20 PM] yashsedai For issue one, we can fix this with training. with a better understanding around what exactly is ongoing when the controller boots up, we may be able to elimate this issue. [2/1/2020 7:21 PM] yashsedai For issue two, no matter the setup, short of a local machine that has local files, you will always have this issue. Due to our multi user nature, storing files on the file share and our current training. This is the nature of the beast. [2/1/2020 7:22 PM] yashsedai We can change some of this up. If we change training and setup. I'm not opposed to this in any way. It just requires that all who use and teach it are on board. [2/1/2020 7:23 PM] yashsedai Even with a local machine, you will still have issues that already occur. User profile problems, group policy problems, etc. These occur already [2/1/2020 7:24 PM] yashsedai In the next week, I'll be pulling some wireshark logs of the controller network startup activity. This will give me some clue about what goes on during startup and what its looking for but its not getting. [2/1/2020 7:25 PM] yashsedai As well, I'll bring over a pc to test the machine tools setup and write a proposed training change guide. [2/1/2020 7:25 PM] michaelb5250 I can't speak for Chris but laser uses local machines and local files, even when we don't have to (zing) so I don't think it'd be a big deal to most. At least the desktop issues are typically and dealt with everywhere. Removing the extra complexity from the multicam setup should make it better, even if it's not perfect [2/1/2020 7:26 PM] yashsedai The difference between laser and multicam is the controller [2/1/2020 7:26 PM] yashsedai Eliminating the local files is easier said than done currently. [2/1/2020 7:26 PM] yashsedai Due to how the pendant talks to machine tools which talkss to the file server via a cifs share [2/1/2020 7:26 PM] yashsedai I'm all for removing any complexity [2/7/2020 6:36 AM] sewingstuff2561 Talk appears to be down [2/7/2020 6:50 AM] kenpurcell Is that a bad thing? it seems to be working now. [2/7/2020 6:59 AM] sewingstuff2561 Yeah itโ€™s working now. [2/7/2020 7:00 AM] sewingstuff2561 It was crashing every time I tried to check my messages. [2/7/2020 8:43 AM] aceat64 It may have been doing a backup [2/7/2020 8:43 AM] aceat64 Sometimes it gets unresponsive during that [2/7/2020 9:06 AM] andrew5152 is this a new feature of Talk? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/675356633538232340/unknown.png?ex=67b93f20&is=67b7eda0&hm=712b69a288da8d0f5e1b3ac08b0e6c9b45219d6f2e5b164de990683e256667a1& [2/7/2020 9:06 AM] andrew5152 or is it just me/my browser that shows blurry until expanded? [2/7/2020 9:06 AM] yashsedai lol [2/7/2020 9:08 AM] andrew5152 before yesterday or so, it would show "previews" of non-blurry smaller images. Somewhere in/around yesterday, this started happening, and I thought it was the new OS/browser config I started using, but it seems to be on everything... [2/7/2020 9:35 AM] nullinterface My machine was *briefly* showing blurred previews as I scrolled [2/7/2020 9:51 AM] michaelb5250 Typically that's what happens as it loads the higher resolution preview. I see it most on cellular data. [2/7/2020 9:53 AM] andrew5152 hm. [2/7/2020 9:53 AM] andrew5152 as far as I can tell, this is all that happens for me all the time on a desktop OS that is otherwise not struggling... [2/7/2020 9:54 AM] andrew5152 I am familiar with the "fuzzy until full load"...erm..."feature", too. But this is not that [2/7/2020 9:54 AM] andrew5152 but it IS my browser... [2/7/2020 9:54 AM] andrew5152 wtf [2/7/2020 9:54 AM] andrew5152 loads fine in anotehr [2/7/2020 9:54 AM] andrew5152 GAR! [2/7/2020 9:55 AM] aceat64 could be it cached a low res version for some reason [2/7/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152 could be [2/7/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152 forced reload [2/7/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152 now normal [2/7/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152 effin technology... [2/7/2020 9:56 AM] andrew5152 I have become accustomed to thinking some...er...genius...has "featured up" the backend, and forget to check the old standbyes like clearing cache or reloading (or rebooting...) [2/8/2020 1:28 AM] yashsedai no changes made [2/8/2020 8:23 PM] doug.emes New member tried to pay today, wasn't taking his chase card. I watched him input the card info, it validated the card [2/8/2020 8:23 PM] doug.emes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/675889584030351401/20200208_174451.jpg?ex=67b9353a&is=67b7e3ba&hm=eded11109d02d6a37acf1d62ea4ea1ef5e36c0d246b64d4cb8fb1a48ea6ff533& [2/8/2020 8:25 PM] aceat64 there are a lot of bugs that exist, until observed by a 3rd party {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [2/14/2020 11:53 AM] denzukoatwork2317 @aceat64 https://i.redd.it/b1b640z9b3c21.jpg {Embed} https://i.redd.it/b1b640z9b3c21.jpg https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yzc4taAnzK36fCT8Nov0MVdWSBhMDjW5lZgIPCxLYMI/https/i.redd.it/b1b640z9b3c21.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [2/14/2020 12:01 PM] aceat64 Accurate [2/14/2020 10:16 PM] ki_mo_. Hi y'all. New here, and trying to set up rdp, but facing this issue. Any idea why? I already reset the password, and can login on site, just not remotely. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/678092262483427358/Screen_Shot_2020-02-14_at_10.15.10_PM.png?ex=67b94fa1&is=67b7fe21&hm=3cbfffaa820f29b684ee5e9695a8cd3884b25de4b75ce1de33907087cf60d2eb& [2/14/2020 10:27 PM] yashsedai good evening [2/14/2020 10:27 PM] yashsedai what is your username? [2/14/2020 10:47 PM] pwnieluver @yashsedai Cat lover [2/14/2020 10:49 PM] yashsedai ? [2/14/2020 10:49 PM] yashsedai so confused [2/14/2020 10:49 PM] pwnieluver I'm joking dude [2/14/2020 10:49 PM] yashsedai lol [2/14/2020 10:49 PM] yashsedai i do love my cats so... [2/14/2020 10:49 PM] pwnieluver Neither do I [2/14/2020 10:50 PM] pwnieluver I mean...... [2/14/2020 10:50 PM] yashsedai lol drugs r bad mmkay [2/14/2020 10:50 PM] pwnieluver mkay, I'm gonna huff paint instead [2/14/2020 10:51 PM] yashsedai Was that server in the common room yours? [2/14/2020 10:51 PM] yashsedai Dell 2u? [2/15/2020 12:09 AM] pwnieluver Yeah Dell PowerEdge R710 [2/15/2020 12:09 AM] pwnieluver It's next to my bed now [2/15/2020 12:10 AM] aceat64 yes, sleeping next to a jet engine, very peaceful {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‹ [2/15/2020 12:16 AM] yashsedai lol [2/15/2020 12:16 AM] yashsedai thats insane [2/15/2020 12:17 AM] yashsedai only to be surpassed by similar supermicro boxes [2/15/2020 12:31 AM] aceat64 the pizzaboxes that I have used to warm boxes of pizza [2/15/2020 12:31 AM] aceat64 lol not even joking [2/15/2020 9:11 AM] kenpurcell ^^^ so true [2/15/2020 9:12 AM] kenpurcell knew some one that would leave a 1U gap in the rack for just such a pizza emergency [2/15/2020 10:45 AM] nullinterface Broil + Bake mode [2/15/2020 2:10 PM] hon1nbo 7x0s are fairly quiet for servers. 6x0 and 9x0 fuggetabout it [2/20/2020 9:00 PM] robert22 !members [2/20/2020 9:00 PM] dallas-makerspace#4763 There are currently 1965 members. [2/29/2020 8:36 AM] michaelb5250 Are there any C19 to C20 power cables at the space that laser could borrow for the morning? [2/29/2020 8:38 AM] sewingstuff2561 !members [2/29/2020 8:38 AM] dallas-makerspace#4763 There are currently 1957 members. [2/29/2020 9:36 AM] michaelb5250 Nevermind, epilog rep had a 120v cable in his car, all is well [2/29/2020 10:52 PM] kevpat Micharlb, where were you when I was begging to get a C19 cable last week? Karma bro, Karma [3/1/2020 12:10 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure what your point is, we got the cable we needed. [3/4/2020 2:28 PM] canibalcrab @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium, @NobleGoblin would like to help out with the space while not in the metroplex, I thought you'd have the best opportunity for that, stuff like account issues etc [3/4/2020 2:35 PM] noble_goblin I emailed admin! ^_^ [3/4/2020 2:36 PM] nullinterface received! We shall see what Jim can find for you. [3/4/2020 3:12 PM] hon1nbo Awesome possum. I'm working on a list of things that can be handled accounts wise [3/5/2020 8:55 AM] aceat64 @Robert and I identified some pain points with the smartwaiver integration last night, I'm hoping I'll have some time before Saturday to roll out a code update {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/5/2020 9:16 AM] yashsedai โค๏ธ [3/5/2020 9:16 AM] yashsedai you guys rock [3/5/2020 12:11 PM] skyspook Awesome! That'll make my life easier on Saturday. I was trying to get maker manager and calendar working on my dev machine the other night and found that things seem a bit askew (git library references not existing, tables not in migration). Is that to be expected? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/5/2020 12:12 PM] aceat64 the migrations should be accurate I thought [3/5/2020 12:12 PM] aceat64 or maybe that was just in calendar [3/5/2020 12:14 PM] skyspook Calendar was missing the super config table. I had to add it manually (has the honorarium message in it) [3/5/2020 12:16 PM] skyspook MakerManager (older one?) Has an invalid reference for the cakephp sparkpost plugin, or it's on a private repo [3/5/2020 12:17 PM] skyspook I got both working, but took me a bit :) [3/5/2020 1:34 PM] aceat64 weird, I'll see if I can reduce the setup friction a bit more [3/5/2020 2:05 PM] skyspook Just stuff that one finds when trying to setup from scratch (and with no knowledge of how things are). Let me know how I can help [3/7/2020 12:22 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/a-boring-title-because-there-now-seems-to-be-an-editorial-function-that-controls-titles/69558 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/a-boring-title-because-there-now-seems-to-be-an-editorial-function-that-controls-titles/69558 A boring title because there now seems to be an editorial function ... Original intended title was, of course, โ€œBadger Badger Badger Badgerโ€. Seriously - micromanaging post titles is getting out of hand. Turn that function off please. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WoV9qKMR3N3GzkM8hhxMb3xgPGmDC_74Aw2V17ncA1w/http/strangehorizons.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/strangehorizons/images/icons/android-icon-192x192.png [3/7/2020 12:22 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/685915317150548069/Screenshot_20200307-122051.png?ex=67b96d2b&is=67b81bab&hm=0d23cab445d17801d7f6030c6076a1675c0ca8450fcbe57a08826e03675a9a74& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/685915317800534028/Screenshot_20200307-122022.png?ex=67b96d2b&is=67b81bab&hm=3223a1062b97c1b4a2e8665e570a495c7b6602289f603ee70d533d3c45e277a7& [3/7/2020 12:23 PM] nullinterface ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ seems to be an actual thing [3/7/2020 12:23 PM] nullinterface Assuming this is a bit of Discourse automation [3/7/2020 12:39 PM] michaelb5250 It's a discourse thing [3/7/2020 12:39 PM] michaelb5250 I'm happy he couldn't use that inane title on his stupid post. [3/7/2020 12:40 PM] michaelb5250 If it's not obvious, he pisses me off, especially when he calls out the moderators for things we didn't do. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [3/7/2020 1:32 PM] aceat64 @yashsedai @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I've got better logging temporarily setup for smartwaiver [3/7/2020 1:32 PM] aceat64 so any time it fails to find a waiver it logs it [3/7/2020 1:32 PM] aceat64 to `logs/error.log` [3/7/2020 1:32 PM] yashsedai Ty! [3/7/2020 4:19 PM] aceat64 I've also got a test in place so I can run any existing user through the smartwaiver lookup code and see where/why it fails {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [3/7/2020 5:59 PM] yashsedai how does this work? [3/7/2020 5:59 PM] yashsedai lol how do i do it? [3/7/2020 6:14 PM] aceat64 I'll PM you [3/7/2020 6:21 PM] skyspook Awesome, thanks! Was a bit frustrating today with some folks. [3/7/2020 6:33 PM] aceat64 Smartwaiver's API sucks [3/7/2020 6:51 PM] canibalcrab So I'm asking and not having a way to help. But can we get a fix for the usernames only being lowercase letters? It seems to be an issue [3/7/2020 7:10 PM] aceat64 Whmcs could possibly be modified to force it lowercase regardless of what they type in [3/7/2020 7:11 PM] canibalcrab That'll still confused people [3/7/2020 7:14 PM] aceat64 There's no way to fix the systems that need it lowercase to accept anything else [3/9/2020 7:48 PM] andrew5152 May I ask, which systems require lowercase? [3/9/2020 7:54 PM] aceat64 The wiki is the main one [3/9/2020 7:54 PM] aceat64 It's some quirk of the auth plugin we use [3/9/2020 7:54 PM] aceat64 It might be fixable but I don't have the time [3/9/2020 7:56 PM] aceat64 There may have been an AD issue as well? I'm not a Windows guy though [3/9/2020 7:58 PM] aceat64 The wiki needs a lot of maintenance done, it's been years since I did any upgrades and I think no one else has touched it since then [3/9/2020 8:29 PM] andrew5152 Hm... ok. Thank you! [3/10/2020 9:31 AM] nullinterface the wiki also kinda sorta needs a *cleansing fire* to sweep through the pages [3/10/2020 9:35 AM] skyspook I've started trying to update some things, but it's pretty daunting [3/10/2020 9:44 AM] nullinterface *somebody* also keeps forgetting a helpful suggestion re: the front page [3/10/2020 10:48 AM] kenpurcell you talking to me? you talking to me? [3/10/2020 12:00 PM] nullinterface no, front page of the *wiki* [3/10/2020 2:32 PM] aceat64 _ducks_ [3/10/2020 4:14 PM] nullinterface all on me [3/10/2020 4:16 PM] aceat64 :sweats: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/11/2020 11:49 AM] nullinterface got to confess I'm at a loss as to why it's critical to unify DMS sites with common nav/look/feel [3/11/2020 11:50 AM] nullinterface is this being driven by mobile-only users? [3/11/2020 11:55 AM] skyspook Good question. I use talk like an app on my phone anyway, so a link back wouldn't make sense in that context. Some people just like to complain about having to take a manual step. [3/11/2020 12:18 PM] kenpurcell right click, open in new tab. On mobile, good luck. [3/11/2020 12:20 PM] canibalcrab I don't think people understand that the sites they want unified are all run by different systems [3/11/2020 12:20 PM] canibalcrab Wiki/discourse/whatever garbage the website it [3/11/2020 12:22 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/no-way-out-of-talk-dallasmakerspace/69712/15 hey guys - all you need to do is break out notepad and edit the HTML [3/11/2020 12:24 PM] kenpurcell Click on the left half of the icon it will take you to the DMS main site, right half takes to the start of TALK. Fucking genius! [3/11/2020 12:27 PM] nullinterface I am reminded of how the old **old** version of Alcatel AMS (a network element management system) works : the Network button is bifurcated {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/687350885583421445/unknown.png?ex=67b96025&is=67b80ea5&hm=2e74ffee38c76fad9848033906f515982a92127c5050267c0ff182511028b75b& [3/11/2020 12:27 PM] canibalcrab Guys she's an HTML specialist. We should do what she says [3/11/2020 12:28 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/no-way-out-of-talk-dallasmakerspace/69712/16 hey now - she could be a religious monotasker that can't handle the thought of separate tabs and windows [3/11/2020 12:28 PM] mizgeek Things have changed in 20 years. ๐Ÿ˜‚ [3/11/2020 12:29 PM] nullinterface I remember a former co-worker getting spitting mad when some web-app system we used developed in-app tabs - thought they were going to have an aneurysm, such was their hatred of **tabs** [3/11/2020 12:31 PM] nullinterface myself I dislike window stacking on the winders taskbar but have long come to terms with it [3/11/2020 12:35 PM] nullinterface but there's a demo that fullscreens everything all the time and goes through linear routines... meanwhile at work I've got 3 displays, a couple RDP sessions open, multiple EMSs, spreadsheets, SFTP client connected to 9 sites, 2 IM apps, email, terminal, and perhaps 50 browser tabs across two separate browsers (because IE is still a thing in the corporate world) [3/11/2020 12:35 PM] skyspook Only 50 tabs, amateur ;) [3/11/2020 12:36 PM] nullinterface yes. only. [3/11/2020 12:36 PM] nullinterface work hasn't fully migrated to web apps, the great maker be praised [3/11/2020 12:39 PM] mizgeek The key to mobile is multiple browser apps. 200 open in Safari and 99 in Chrome. ๐Ÿ˜€ [3/11/2020 12:43 PM] andrew5152 ya'll be nice now. At least a solution was offered... How are we liking Jim's addition? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/687355111319928908/unknown.png?ex=67b96414&is=67b81294&hm=b683704eee8b617a8b7a27b93222708d0983c3b6a51f3226cc044c733a1a7599& [3/11/2020 12:44 PM] skyspook Thanks I hate it, lol [3/11/2020 12:44 PM] skyspook But I don't care either way {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/11/2020 12:44 PM] andrew5152 I suspect with time (an hour or so) I'll learn to like it. It's easy enough to ignore. [3/11/2020 12:47 PM] skyspook And if I don't get used to it I can userscript it out of existence :) [3/11/2020 12:47 PM] nullinterface that's just letting the terrorists win [3/11/2020 12:49 PM] hon1nbo no the terrorist winning would be if I made a mobile one, or made the DMS logo link to dallasmakerspace dot org [3/11/2020 12:49 PM] hon1nbo this is an olive branch [3/11/2020 12:49 PM] nullinterface but at least it's only at the top whenever the view is scrolled all the way up [3/11/2020 12:50 PM] nullinterface and looks like desktop only, so OK, olive branch [3/11/2020 12:50 PM] skyspook Yep, agreed :). Awful nice of you [3/11/2020 12:51 PM] andrew5152 what's hard about right click open in new window on mobile? do it with a fair bit of frequency... ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [3/11/2020 12:51 PM] kenpurcell Haaa but you still don't link to the main WP site. You sneaky. [3/11/2020 12:52 PM] nullinterface the WP site is just a *really* fancy business card / yellowpages listing [3/14/2020 4:34 PM] doug.emes @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I took the mrs home. Wont be back tonight but maybe monday. I'll see if @Patrickpleez1 can wrangle some folks for the chair moves [3/15/2020 12:55 PM] skyspook @doug.emes The chairs going to pillar are the ones next to the shapeoko in the warehouse? [3/15/2020 1:13 PM] doug.emes Yes sir [3/15/2020 1:23 PM] doug.emes @Skyspook thanks [3/15/2020 1:31 PM] skyspook No problem. All of them? [3/15/2020 1:42 PM] skyspook Moved 22 in. Figured that made sense with 20 computers in there [3/15/2020 3:00 PM] doug.emes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/688838944322093102/unknown.gif?ex=67b8db42&is=67b789c2&hm=3732d4603d77032c7d9f862677edc64a5428cc027de9ae08f60ac454e623c80e& [3/15/2020 3:00 PM] doug.emes It wont be 20 pc afterwards but thank you very much [3/15/2020 3:12 PM] skyspook Still need to move the other chairs out. We can play musical chairs soon :) [3/15/2020 9:41 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/688939984379576367/unknown.png?ex=67b9395c&is=67b7e7dc&hm=ea5ad0d926208f2e4aac9dc2c345343be50ddb998b6ca65793bb21e20254d388& [3/15/2020 9:41 PM] canibalcrab whats this about? [3/15/2020 9:41 PM] skyspook Just saw that too [3/15/2020 9:41 PM] robert22 Same [3/15/2020 9:41 PM] skyspook We broke it [3/15/2020 9:42 PM] robert22 To many people watching Drunk Silva type [3/15/2020 9:42 PM] sewingstuff2561 Working fine for me now. [3/15/2020 9:43 PM] robert22 Yep same [3/15/2020 9:43 PM] skyspook Yea, it's just a protection for the server, so it can still serve stuff up. Usually not a problem, don't have a billion people refreshing pages. [3/16/2020 12:37 AM] yashsedai lol [3/16/2020 12:37 AM] yashsedai im gonna check the stats [3/16/2020 12:38 AM] yashsedai i'd bet it was redis as the limiter [3/19/2020 7:34 PM] robert22 Was watching WestWorld that reader looks familiar {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/690357476151001088/image0.jpg?ex=67b91b80&is=67b7ca00&hm=ea7a621957ae2576465dc38a7b0a20a3068f3cc962dd5d63109a4b1d95fe851e& [3/19/2020 7:46 PM] yashsedai lol [3/21/2020 5:52 PM] aceat64 made two quick calendar bugfixes: https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/pull/120 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/pull/120 Don't show address for online classes, and properly count attendees... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [3/21/2020 5:54 PM] talkers @aceat64 that not counting rejected attendees is a big thing. Does it also include their cancellations? [3/21/2020 5:54 PM] aceat64 it was already counting cancelations [3/21/2020 5:55 PM] aceat64 this was just on the "index" (the main list of classes) [3/21/2020 5:56 PM] talkers Without looking at it directly, this is for classes with a fixed number of students & requiring approval? [3/21/2020 5:56 PM] aceat64 I think this is for any class where an attendee can be rejected [3/21/2020 5:56 PM] aceat64 I haven't dug into the code much tbh [3/21/2020 5:56 PM] aceat64 it's a mess in there [3/21/2020 5:58 PM] talkers There is a problem in the system when an instructor sets a number of students and approval is required. When students cancel or are rejected, they still count to the total number of students registered. [3/21/2020 5:59 PM] aceat64 I fixed that one already [3/21/2020 5:59 PM] talkers Excellent. Thank you Andrew [3/21/2020 5:59 PM] aceat64 https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/pull/117 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/pull/117 BUGFIX Available space calculation counted rejected attendees by ac... This fixes a bug where rejected attendees still counted towards the number of filled seats for an event/class. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [3/21/2020 6:00 PM] aceat64 the way seats are calculated is done differently in different parts of the code, for no apparent reason [3/21/2020 6:00 PM] talkers Can you remove the multi part class feature? [3/21/2020 6:00 PM] aceat64 anything that uses the methods of the table will be correct though [3/21/2020 6:00 PM] aceat64 I'm only doing small bugfixes, don't have a lot of time to devote to this code base [3/21/2020 6:01 PM] talkers Just hide it as an option [3/21/2020 6:01 PM] talkers When you can [3/21/2020 6:01 PM] skyspook Why should it be removed? Doesn't work? [3/21/2020 6:02 PM] talkers Teachers get into trouble all the time when they use it. Several reasons. [3/21/2020 6:02 PM] canibalcrab I believe it's on github [3/21/2020 6:02 PM] canibalcrab Do a pull [3/21/2020 6:03 PM] talkers 1. No changes to future sessions allowed. 2. No changes to student rosters 3. Honouraium only looks at the first session 4. It sucks [3/21/2020 6:04 PM] talkers Calendar admins couldn't fix it either. [3/25/2020 4:00 PM] doug.emes @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I am considering a proposal at work due to COVID-19 for a citrix gateway [3/25/2020 4:00 PM] doug.emes so my training center can be complicit with our IT stuff, versus a crap down of individual Teamviewers, anydesks etc [3/25/2020 4:01 PM] doug.emes any info or the opportunity to bounce around this concept, could also be in line for us using certain DMS resources in a similar fashio [3/25/2020 4:01 PM] doug.emes via a SSO [3/25/2020 4:01 PM] doug.emes if when you have time thanks [3/25/2020 4:12 PM] hon1nbo looking to use a Citrix gateway to replace the user desktops? Guessing you don't have company issued laptops or similar? [3/25/2020 4:12 PM] hon1nbo but how would this play into DMS? [3/25/2020 4:21 PM] yashsedai citrix is not the answer [3/25/2020 4:21 PM] yashsedai horizon maybe [3/25/2020 4:21 PM] yashsedai but this is not simple [3/25/2020 4:21 PM] yashsedai licensing cost, hardware cost, etc [3/25/2020 4:22 PM] yashsedai what does dms need citrix/vdi for? [3/25/2020 4:38 PM] doug.emes to not break our licensing of certain apps, if we could restrict access to some machines... [3/25/2020 4:38 PM] doug.emes if this turns out to be well into april past paril [3/25/2020 4:38 PM] doug.emes no no we have company laptops [3/25/2020 4:38 PM] doug.emes but we also have equipment that the learners "hook up to" with laptops [3/25/2020 4:38 PM] doug.emes but if they aren't onsite... [3/25/2020 4:39 PM] doug.emes i want to do it "proper" and not just hackaway with a secret plethora of teamviewer.vnc/anydesk/insert whatever else you want for "RDP" [3/25/2020 4:40 PM] doug.emes right now we have a pc running VMware with 4 instances [3/25/2020 4:40 PM] doug.emes each of the virtuals has dedicated USB->eth and USB->rs232 [3/25/2020 4:41 PM] doug.emes the host PC has a usb 8 port hub with 8 adapters [3/25/2020 4:41 PM] doug.emes talking about my work instance [3/25/2020 4:47 PM] hon1nbo if it's already vmware they need to get to, horizon/vmware workstation remote server tie ins with a VPN would be best. I'm still not seeing a use case for Citrix as having to deal with work from home, as you could RDP to the existing machines over VPN. Is there a particular reason this is not acceptable? [3/25/2020 4:48 PM] hon1nbo I mean Citrix is nice and all, but a 2-3 month Work from Home for what sounds like a subset of users likely don't justify the deployment unless it was already a long term goal [3/25/2020 5:11 PM] doug.emes Thanks... I have 2 sets of trainees. Full time employees, who would have o365/teams/SSO. [3/25/2020 5:11 PM] doug.emes And associates who might be 2 to 3 different kinds of contractors who probably don't have federated ids [3/25/2020 5:11 PM] doug.emes I have to train both [3/26/2020 8:15 PM] aceat64 https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4 {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4 Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4 Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4 development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 [3/26/2020 8:15 PM] aceat64 I think this is the codebase for that version of Maker Manager in the conspiracy theory thread [3/26/2020 8:15 PM] aceat64 last touched Jun 8th, 2018 lol [3/26/2020 8:16 PM] aceat64 oh, there's one branch (called `clone-clone-clone`???) that's from Jan 10th, 2019 [3/26/2020 8:34 PM] skyspook I got that error too, but figured enough to check my AD groups in the other maker manager. The voting rights site has just a few issues :) [3/26/2020 8:42 PM] canibalcrab clone could have been @LukeStrickland working on it? he has clones [3/26/2020 8:44 PM] aceat64 Yeah it's his branch, just not sure what it's for lol [3/26/2020 10:37 PM] nullinterface Just run it as root [3/26/2020 10:37 PM] nullinterface What could possibly not go over awesome [3/27/2020 5:15 AM] clone1018 I think I have code on my old laptop that fixes that bug lol [3/27/2020 5:26 AM] clone1018 `clone-clone-clone` just fixes badge assignment [3/27/2020 9:29 AM] kenpurcell He is a clone, just look at his avatar. Classic Clone Look or CCL. [3/27/2020 1:55 PM] hon1nbo wait the voting rights system does badge assignment? (scurries to look) [3/27/2020 1:55 PM] hon1nbo soooo [3/27/2020 1:55 PM] hon1nbo this is my first time logging into it since I got MM admin [3/27/2020 1:55 PM] hon1nbo and it has that too [3/27/2020 1:55 PM] hon1nbo is there a reason this wasn't just our MM and it be a one-stop shop? Reason we have two different branches? [3/27/2020 1:56 PM] skyspook Badge assignment doesnt actually work in mm4 [3/27/2020 1:56 PM] skyspook Not at least any of the times I've tried [3/27/2020 1:59 PM] hon1nbo ah [3/27/2020 3:25 PM] andrew5152 Luke Strickland is probably your best bet for info on that. He implemented the Voter Reg thing, "borrowing it" from the MM4 update effort, I do believe.... I think that was the ONLY thing that ever actually worked from that effort. And then (nearly, if not in fact) everyone working on it...moved on [3/28/2020 4:53 AM] clone1018 It works in one of the branches [3/28/2020 4:54 AM] clone1018 The "Voting Rights System" is actually maker manager 4 [3/28/2020 4:55 AM] clone1018 I never actually got to finish MM4 before moving away :(, it was designed around fixing the constant update problems between WHMCS <=> AD <=> SmartWaiver [3/28/2020 5:03 AM] clone1018 If I remember correctly, there's two checkouts of mm4, one is votingrights (locked down via prod edits), and https://makermanager.dallasmakerspace.org/login [3/28/2020 5:05 AM] clone1018 Final note is mm4 can also send out Lob.com physical mailings for voting time, AND monitor the status of the sent letters! [3/28/2020 5:06 AM] clone1018 https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4/blob/master/app/Console/Commands/SendVotingMail.php {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4/blob/master/app/Console/Commands/SendVotingMail.php Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4 Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/makermanager4 development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ITo4w4d0AAbib6KoqFCWr28DlNpOEUOWzQMSxDMvYw8/%3Fs%3D400%26v%3D4/https/avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/920460 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [3/28/2020 1:04 PM] hon1nbo Now that's nifty [4/19/2020 10:01 PM] robert22 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium does DMS want the Dallas.ms domain? It should 59.99 a year [4/19/2020 10:01 PM] robert22 Be [4/19/2020 10:02 PM] talkers @Robert it's a great short cut. Get to keep for when we start growing again. [4/19/2020 10:03 PM] robert22 I agree but canโ€™t approve spending [4/19/2020 10:08 PM] hon1nbo @Apparently_Weird @quattroquattro thoughts? [4/19/2020 10:12 PM] apparently_weird I agree itโ€™s a great idea [4/19/2020 10:32 PM] hon1nbo @yashsedai we just do everything through Amazon for domains? [4/19/2020 10:35 PM] robert22 This one is on my GoDaddy it is not supported to goto Amazon [4/19/2020 10:36 PM] hon1nbo looks like google domains doesn't support them either [4/19/2020 10:36 PM] robert22 Ya I wish.... [4/19/2020 10:36 PM] robert22 GoDaddy is horrible [4/19/2020 10:36 PM] robert22 Itโ€™s the only one on that account [4/20/2020 12:00 AM] talkers Robert's been maintaining it for like 5 years. Thank you @Robert [4/21/2020 12:00 AM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/702020838052069427/Screenshot_20200420-235928.png?ex=67b959da&is=67b8085a&hm=3b9a5fd2f2294dff8810ce84fce67d6f13fdfe4799726734b9d4df5dd0c2b206& [4/21/2020 12:00 AM] nullinterface What's this about? [4/21/2020 12:00 AM] yashsedai 1337h4x [4/21/2020 12:03 AM] canibalcrab hopefully they made the app better than the dumpster fire of an excuse that they had previously [4/21/2020 12:25 AM] aceat64 it just makes it look like an app [4/21/2020 12:25 AM] aceat64 basically when you open the "app" it's an instance of chrome without the search/url bar [4/21/2020 12:25 AM] aceat64 it's not even an app, it's literally a fancy bookmark [4/21/2020 12:26 AM] aceat64 that's not a _bad_ thing of course, but I don't care about Talk enough to have a direct link to it on my phone's home screen [5/6/2020 1:59 AM] michaelb5250 So the new 'principal engineer' called me over today. Said he had installed a server on our file server, and it worked great, but any time he turned off his laptop it stopped. Allegedly our IT guy didn't know what was going on. Turns out he's got this ticket tracker web app-thing, loaded all the files on our file server and from his laptop, ran the batch script they include to install and launch it. Took more convincing than I was comfortable with to tell him that he didn't manage to run anything on the file server and it was, in fact, running from his laptop. I'm now afraid of anything he touches. [5/6/2020 6:47 AM] andrew5152 heh. that made me giggle... [5/6/2020 8:33 AM] kenpurcell Keep a close eye on your new engineer. [5/6/2020 8:37 AM] andrew5152 curious what he engineers... (I'm assuming your company has precious little use for a locomotive driver...) [5/6/2020 8:43 AM] michaelb5250 Used to do medium voltage motor drives. 4.6-13.8kV, 1500-40000HP. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [5/6/2020 9:20 AM] robert22 Damn that is medium? [5/6/2020 9:21 AM] robert22 What is considered high [5/6/2020 9:27 AM] michaelb5250 Power transmission, anything higher than 13.8 for the most part. [5/6/2020 10:38 AM] kenpurcell Used to know a guy in a Tesla Coil builders group. They used pole pigs wired backwards to get 14.4kv output to drive their coils. They had a homemade variable inductor to limit current pulled from their homes breaker box. After seeing that in person, big nope! [5/6/2020 10:39 AM] skyspook That's just good old fashioned fun. [5/6/2020 10:41 AM] kenpurcell It was until they burned a fuseable link in their houses power drop. Utilities came out and said it would be $400 to repair and they were at least a week or more out. [5/6/2020 10:41 AM] kenpurcell D'oh [5/6/2020 10:42 AM] skyspook Whoops. That's why I always used someone else's power ;) [5/6/2020 6:24 PM] michaelb5250 Luckily our explosions are limited to 1000V in the lab. [5/13/2020 1:08 PM] andrew5152 @yashsedai @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium would you guys be best able to respond to LIam's inquiry about RFID interlocks @ DMS? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/interest-in-your-rfid-system-from-vic-makerspace/71200 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/interest-in-your-rfid-system-from-vic-makerspace/71200 Interest in your RFID system from Vic Makerspace Hey there Dallas Makerspace! Iโ€™m Liam, a member of the Victoria Makerspace up in BC, Canada. I am one of the members in charge of planning/designing/building an RFID Tool interlock system for our space. I am still very early days on the project and mostly reviewing available... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [5/21/2020 10:08 PM] michaelb5250 Anyone speak server beeps? My HP DL380 G6 has recently started doing these double beeps every so often. Now it's doing 4x groups of double beeps. Can't find anything in the system log (it's running pfsense just fine) and nothing in the out of band interface log either. I was poking around tonight and had a hard drive fail, which seemed to be timed perfectly with the system resetting out of the blue. But I've had drives crash in the past and it kept on going. [5/21/2020 10:10 PM] robert22 The external self diagnoses says itโ€™s good? [5/21/2020 10:11 PM] robert22 Usually a pull out [5/21/2020 10:11 PM] robert22 With LEDโ€™s [5/21/2020 10:12 PM] michaelb5250 It was all green until the drive failure. Beeps were happening for a few days with a green light. [5/21/2020 10:12 PM] robert22 Do you have a keyboard installed? [5/21/2020 10:13 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah I plugged in a monitor and keyboard but none of the logs I know of showed anything [5/21/2020 10:13 PM] robert22 Could reboot into self diagnostic mode [5/21/2020 10:14 PM] michaelb5250 Oh I didn't think of that.. good point [5/21/2020 10:15 PM] robert22 Could be a raid failure [5/21/2020 10:15 PM] robert22 Not super sure but the hard drive is Suspicious but who knows [5/21/2020 10:16 PM] robert22 Either way diagnostic mode should tell you whatโ€™s up [5/21/2020 10:16 PM] yashsedai https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docLocale=en_US&docId=emr_na-c01702138#N10033 [5/21/2020 10:19 PM] michaelb5250 Lol that's what confused me, it's not a post beep, it's beeping while in an OS (pfsense) and running. [5/21/2020 10:19 PM] robert22 I maintain raid failure [5/21/2020 10:19 PM] robert22 Check the raid card [5/21/2020 10:19 PM] michaelb5250 Could be a raid battery. I've had issues with it in the past. I'm about to take it down and see what more I can find with a monitor. [5/21/2020 10:29 PM] michaelb5250 Seems to be related to the hard drive. The raid controller reports the battery is ok but throws a warning about 'immenient failure on bay 8'. According to Reddit the backplane in these has a small beeper which would explain why it's quieter than the system post beeps I'm used to hearing. Either way, unplugging the hard drive stopped the beeps instantly, so I'll grab a few more spare drives and hope it clears up. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [5/21/2020 10:33 PM] michaelb5250 This is what I get for using a 10 year old ex-file server as my router. 3rd hard drive failure so far. [5/21/2020 11:14 PM] robert22 Not sure it would survive but some of the small distros you can run entirely in memory works great until you reboot [6/22/2020 1:20 AM] redbeardedpirate https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/large-air-compressor-running-non-stop/71992 [6/22/2020 1:22 AM] redbeardedpirate It could start a fire [7/1/2020 10:33 PM] hardsuit What would I need to do to have one of the computers assigned to a dedicated, mobile streaming cart? Working on the proposal for the entire setup, but want to do it properly if I'm going to assume the inclusion of one of the systems we already oen [7/1/2020 11:20 PM] nullinterface Physical security so it doesn't suffer the same fate as the open cast gear did? [7/2/2020 2:17 AM] hon1nbo we've had proposals in the past, the problem usually comes down to balancing complexity to use, cost, and mobility. Personally, I think we're at a point we should say fuck it and buy the Google Meet hardware since it is user friendly and has support. However, that comes with a price tag. If you can get the hardware approved for a general stream cart (since infra doesn't have budget for it) we're more than happy to get it domain joined and loaded. [7/3/2020 12:48 PM] kentamanos I had to clean out all browser data the other day due to a malfunctioning site that was caching something somewhere, and that process kicked me out of Talk. Previously I was logging in via Google (I assume OAuth?), and everything I've Google'd on this matter makes it seem like NTP isn't running where we host Talk, but Freddy attempted to look a the time on the computer hosting Talk and thought it looked kosher. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/728668498926239754/unknown.png?ex=67b9652c&is=67b813ac&hm=fcd6879700d25ac7d03ef743272229818143e1428bd9a59da575de992a7d7ea0& [7/3/2020 12:58 PM] hardsuit I was thinking (welcome to hear other ideas) that the cart would live in the supply closet off of the common room. [7/3/2020 12:59 PM] hardsuit Anyone can badge in there, but there's a record of time and badge when that happens, along with camera coverage [7/3/2020 1:00 PM] hardsuit Cart would've set up with a shadow board style storage system, so if something isn't put back, it's immediately evident something is missing [7/3/2020 1:01 PM] hardsuit As far as costs, I'm going with stuff I personally have used/purchased and therefore are on the cheaper side of useable hardware. [7/3/2020 1:02 PM] hardsuit I'm sure there will be screams of horror from gear snobs that I'm suggesting the use of "crap" [7/3/2020 1:03 PM] hon1nbo @Kentamanos the Google auth is just plain wonky, partly since the original tokens either expired or got de-linked so when I tried to fix it last I found it bugged; It's been low on the todo list. I recommend resetting the password for the account and logging in with the normal password mode for the time being. [7/3/2020 1:04 PM] kentamanos To be clear, resetting the password on the Google account? [7/3/2020 1:04 PM] hardsuit For example, Neweer LED lights, Amazon basics lightweight tripods etc [7/3/2020 1:05 PM] kentamanos Actually I think you're saying ditch Google login, I'll see if I can make that happen. [7/3/2020 1:05 PM] skyspook @Kentamanos Just in talk. Click Log-in with email, then click forgot password. [7/3/2020 1:05 PM] skyspook Exactly [7/3/2020 1:07 PM] skyspook @Hardsuit - I'd only insist on audio hardware that can catch clear, distributed audio. At the very least the presenter. Fuzzy video or graphics can be excused, but audio tends to make or break recordings. Especially if one of our goals is to make these reusable. [7/3/2020 1:07 PM] hardsuit That's one area I can probably use advice on [7/3/2020 1:09 PM] hardsuit I've used and been happy with a Samson Go, the entry level Monoprice USB condenser mic, and the mic on my gaming headset [7/3/2020 1:09 PM] skyspook It'll probably take some discussion, and advice from people who know the space a bit better than I do. I mostly do at-desk recordings, so lavalier and arm-stand mics. I know there's some good stuff for rooms and presenter capture that shouldn't be too onerous. [7/3/2020 1:10 PM] skyspook I've seen some slick distributed-mic systems for capturing conference room calls, for instance [7/3/2020 1:10 PM] hardsuit I am leaning towards the Monoprice mic on a boom arm to start [7/3/2020 1:10 PM] kentamanos cool, dumped Google and was able to login etc., thanks guys [7/3/2020 1:10 PM] skyspook Awesome, welcome back to the party! [7/3/2020 1:10 PM] hardsuit Wireless leave, and distributed mics are a step or two up [7/3/2020 1:11 PM] hardsuit Err, lav [7/3/2020 1:11 PM] skyspook Yep. I think for single-person capture an arm-mic should be fine. [7/3/2020 1:11 PM] hardsuit I'm doing very beginner basic setup here [7/3/2020 1:12 PM] hardsuit Can add on as we go, but just want a good enough setup, not a min/maxed cover all the bases set [7/3/2020 1:12 PM] skyspook Exactly - I think there are two main use cases - single-person capture for class (or other video) creation, and committee meeting / interactive class capture. [7/3/2020 1:12 PM] hardsuit https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=600202 {Embed} https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=600202 Stage Right by Monoprice USB Large Condenser Mic with Stand - Monop... Enjoy big sound from this very small USB Large Condenser Mic with Stand from Stage Rightโ„ข by Monoprice. This USB mic is a very easy way to capture high-quality vocals for desktops, laptops, and [7/3/2020 1:12 PM] hardsuit That mic [7/3/2020 1:13 PM] hardsuit https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=602505 {Embed} https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=602505 Stage Right by Monoprice Suspension Boom Scissor Broadcast Mic Stan... Our Suspension Boom Stand is made of steel and provides a sturdy platform to hold microphones in place for the duration of a recording session. The arm is strong enough to support 2 pounds of weight a [7/3/2020 1:14 PM] hardsuit On that arm [7/3/2020 1:14 PM] skyspook Looks like a decent cardioid. I'd be curious how much of this we might actually already have ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/3/2020 1:14 PM] skyspook And yep, I have that arm myself, lol [7/3/2020 1:14 PM] hardsuit I know DM might have some of this already [7/3/2020 1:15 PM] hardsuit But I want the cart fully "owned" by Education [7/3/2020 1:15 PM] hardsuit Everything is purchased for the cart, and it *stays* we with the cart [7/3/2020 1:16 PM] skyspook I think we make a cart like this, and maybe get one of the google meet systems for committee meetings. That should cover most of our needs (of the ones I know of). [7/3/2020 1:16 PM] hardsuit One of the reasons Im trying to keep the pricing and complexity down [7/3/2020 1:19 PM] hardsuit Think I have 6 lightweight tripods, 3 articulated clamps, 4 led lights, 2 cameras, and green screen backdrop & stand [7/3/2020 1:21 PM] hardsuit And looks like there's a generic Elgato camlink dongle for $20ish that is quite capable up to it's limit of 1080p60 [7/3/2020 1:24 PM] skyspook Awesome, want to make up a list of everything? I can help write up the use-case for it. Even keeping everything cheaper we'll probably still need board approval. [7/3/2020 1:25 PM] hardsuit That's what I'm working on this weekend [7/3/2020 1:25 PM] skyspook Sweet [7/3/2020 1:26 PM] hardsuit Been jotting down a list at work for the past week or two, just have to compile it together with links and prices [7/3/2020 1:26 PM] hardsuit Can ballpark the cost on the cart itself, but can't do full out design until have all the bits in hand for measurements [7/3/2020 1:27 PM] skyspook I think ballpark would be acceptable. Just price out what you think the most expensive is and we can ask for an amount "up to" [7/3/2020 1:27 PM] hardsuit Plus got NO idea if we can actually source two 920c cameras, they're still rare as hens teeth right now [7/3/2020 1:28 PM] hardsuit We got luck and grabbed ours last year before all this insanity started [7/3/2020 1:29 PM] skyspook Everyone wants to work from home now, yea. I was lucky I already had one as well. [7/3/2020 1:34 PM] hardsuit That's also why I want DroidCam on the computer, I can teach how to use your phones camera as a source [7/3/2020 1:50 PM] skyspook I actually haven't done that before. Sounds neat [7/3/2020 2:02 PM] doug.emes i think mine are 920 or 922, ill doublecheck [7/3/2020 2:10 PM] hardsuit I used the Droidcam setup with my Pixel3 for the second mask stream, worked great [7/3/2020 2:20 PM] kentamanos @Hardsuit what software do you want to use on the PC for DroidCam? I've used it in OBS but never any specialized software just for it, so just curious. [7/3/2020 2:22 PM] hardsuit Just need Droidcam server with the HD option [7/3/2020 2:24 PM] skyspook Was just looking, if someone wants HD they'd just have to pay for that for the app? That's not too bad [7/3/2020 2:34 PM] kentamanos You should definitely put a warning that nobody should try to use DroidCam without having their phone connected to a charger and possibly well ventilated ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/3/2020 2:34 PM] kentamanos Even Pokemon Go seemed gentler to batteries ๐Ÿ˜† [7/3/2020 3:33 PM] hardsuit I don't recall paying for HD [7/3/2020 3:35 PM] hardsuit HD is just an option checkbox on the PC sided server software [7/3/2020 3:35 PM] hardsuit And I'd want both OBS and Streamlabs [7/3/2020 3:36 PM] hardsuit Mainly because Streamlabs has a free decent macro switching app, and every other one I tried for OBS sucked [7/3/2020 3:37 PM] hardsuit And thats cheaper than buying a Streamdeck [7/3/2020 5:32 PM] judykriehn3727 Just asking - does your masterplan include some form of microphones? Board meetings are a struggle for me, because I depend heavily on lip-reading as well as what I can hear. If a speaker has a high-pitched voice, or a voice that doesn't carry, or the don't move their lips, I'm dead in the water. Adding face masks to the equation makes it an exercise in futility. I was pleasantly surprised by the efficacy of the captioning in google when I turned it on during the meet-the-candidates soiree. But if I'm at a meeting in person, I'd rather be making eye contact than reading the meeting - if that's even an option. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/3/2020 5:43 PM] skyspook That's what I'd like to use the Google meet hardware for. Looks like we can get remote mics for it, and should improve meetings like that. Though I'm not sure if it'd play well with something like an amplifier [7/3/2020 5:49 PM] stephenie. The Google meet format worked well for us. Thanks for trying it! [7/3/2020 6:18 PM] hardsuit I'm designing mainly for class streaming, as I don't know the tech hardware needs for multiple audio [7/3/2020 6:18 PM] hardsuit It should be capable of that though [7/3/2020 6:18 PM] hardsuit Would just need someone else to head up that option [7/4/2020 7:13 PM] skyspook @Hardsuit @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium - Took a first stab at a proposal writeup for a class-stream cart and either a mobile or fixed conference setup. It's just in google docs so let me know if you want access and I can share it out. [7/4/2020 8:48 PM] doug.emes +1 access please for me [7/4/2020 8:48 PM] doug.emes I have 2 lavaliers I can donate that have REDONK long cords [7/4/2020 8:50 PM] hon1nbo Sure [7/4/2020 8:52 PM] skyspook Awesome. I don't think @Hardsuit has finished up the first go at the hardware list for the streaming cart, but that may be a good addition. [7/4/2020 8:53 PM] skyspook If you use your DMS email, should be able to get to this document directly - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ywJNv5L4CVhJcXjOyDyn5LbH4MLmPZbsAdnkbVIbwwg/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ywJNv5L4CVhJcXjOyDyn5LbH4MLmPZbsAdnkbVIbwwg/edit?usp=sharing Google Docs - create and edit documents online, for free. Create a new document and edit with others at the same time -- from your computer, phone or tablet. Get stuff done with or without an internet connection. Use Docs to edit Word files. Free from Google. [7/4/2020 8:53 PM] skyspook If you want another email, just let me know [7/4/2020 8:53 PM] doug.emes I have 2 Logitech C615s as well, that have clamp / threaded camera holes [7/4/2020 8:55 PM] doug.emes they are 30fps not 60, but for 2nd / broll, they are suprisingly good [7/4/2020 8:56 PM] skyspook I'd give up 60 for the price of free [7/4/2020 8:56 PM] doug.emes yeah use these, prove it works, then we can move to the 60fps or a 4k one [7/4/2020 8:57 PM] skyspook Not sure we need 4k for the streaming cart. Not sure our poor wifi could take it. ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/4/2020 8:58 PM] doug.emes technically the LUMIX can do 4k very well, but its not a dedicated teaching resource [7/4/2020 9:01 PM] doug.emes I would also be willing to LOAN my streamdeck 15 button [7/4/2020 9:02 PM] doug.emes to help prove the usefulness of a button panel that has definable buttons as icongraphy colors etc [7/4/2020 9:03 PM] doug.emes gonna hop on Neverwinter Online to play a bunch, but Ill keep discord open on the side [7/5/2020 10:44 PM] michaelb5250 Can we get a 'Fusion Users' (or something to that effect) AD group, to track who's been trained? Still good with the single laser teachers group, it sounds like everyone's interested in teaching all of them. [7/5/2020 11:09 PM] yashsedai sure [7/5/2020 11:09 PM] hon1nbo sure thing [7/5/2020 11:09 PM] hon1nbo damnit beat me to it [7/5/2020 11:09 PM] yashsedai fail [7/5/2020 11:09 PM] hon1nbo seppuku time. I have brought shame on my family, my land, and my cow [7/5/2020 11:10 PM] skyspook Poor cow [7/5/2020 11:12 PM] yashsedai Laser fusion basics is the group name [7/5/2020 11:12 PM] yashsedai Members of the Laser teachers group can add/remove {Reactions} dms ๐Ÿ‘ [7/5/2020 11:12 PM] yashsedai let me know if that is ok or needs to change [7/5/2020 11:13 PM] hon1nbo Thanks Freddy [7/5/2020 11:13 PM] hon1nbo I'm going to add it as an item on the calendar as well [7/5/2020 11:13 PM] yashsedai k [7/5/2020 11:15 PM] hon1nbo it's added as a tool and a requisite AD mapping on the calendar (meaning teachers will be able to have the AD checkoff like usual) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/6/2020 12:08 PM] michaelb5250 Got this response regarding the Fusion software. Y'all got any magic solutions? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/729745671397048371/Capture.PNG?ex=67b95bde&is=67b80a5e&hm=a946ca09c7c31049f156c9c6300aa0177e1b23aee72587718c6f5abf710f6e3c& [7/6/2020 12:09 PM] yashsedai ugh [7/6/2020 12:09 PM] yashsedai did it come on a disk or is it a download? [7/6/2020 12:09 PM] michaelb5250 download [7/6/2020 12:10 PM] michaelb5250 https://www.epiloglaser.com/assets/downloads/drivers/epilog-software-suite/EpilogSuite_x64_2.1.12.zip [7/6/2020 12:10 PM] michaelb5250 and that was exactly my reaction. [7/6/2020 12:10 PM] robert22 Go back to old school with deep freeze {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฅ (2) [7/6/2020 12:14 PM] yashsedai deep freeze isn't the answer either [7/6/2020 12:17 PM] michaelb5250 The only thing I've got is that the computer gets isolated with only a single local account. Which sucks quite a bit. [7/6/2020 12:18 PM] robert22 Could also do virtual apps but itโ€™s effectively the same thing [7/6/2020 12:26 PM] hon1nbo can do what we did with the Dynatorch [7/6/2020 12:27 PM] hon1nbo we used the RunAs tool to have each domain user execute the program as a local user, but not give every member some shared password that ends up needing to be changed etc {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ (3) [7/6/2020 12:27 PM] hon1nbo we did this because the dynatorch software is in the same boat using current user registry keys etc rather than local machine [7/6/2020 12:28 PM] skyspook I would say that, have it installed when a user logs in, or have it in a shared local vm. Each one has its own pros and cons [7/6/2020 12:28 PM] hon1nbo it was pretty easy to setup. [7/6/2020 12:32 PM] michaelb5250 Awesome. I assume there's not a local user already set up on that computer? [7/6/2020 12:33 PM] hon1nbo there's a local administrator for emergency purposes, but that needs to stay separate. We can setup a local account for the purpose. [7/6/2020 2:20 PM] nullinterface ah software companies and their ~~rent-seeking~~ *overly complex licensing schemes* [7/6/2020 10:28 PM] themitch22 sounds like the multicam host software problem but I'm not touching that with a 10 ft pole [7/6/2020 10:34 PM] hon1nbo the multicam one is a bit of the opposite [7/6/2020 10:35 PM] hon1nbo it doesn't have a service mode so every user has a copy secretly in the background [7/6/2020 10:35 PM] hon1nbo in this case it doesn't like different users at all [7/6/2020 10:35 PM] skyspook Yep. It's always watching. [7/6/2020 10:35 PM] hon1nbo it's an easy and super reliable workaround... unlike the multicam one [7/6/2020 10:35 PM] kentamanos the "Startup Folder" is never a good plan...hehe [7/6/2020 10:43 PM] themitch22 the multcam machine tools doesn't like different users either but we don't have a solution that's kosher. I digress [7/7/2020 6:09 PM] skyspook Did we ever figure out the thinlinx stuff, or should I try making a pi image that will boot to an rdp client? [7/7/2020 8:53 PM] yashsedai i found some stuff in stans email [7/7/2020 8:53 PM] yashsedai i sent them an email [7/7/2020 8:53 PM] yashsedai haven't heard back [7/7/2020 10:03 PM] michaelb5250 Laser solution was a local account. Runas got the software to launch but something about it's print driver behavior wasn't working. User A trying to print to a service running as User B failed [7/7/2020 10:04 PM] skyspook Boo [7/7/2020 10:05 PM] skyspook I'll play with it after we go over things tomorrow. Maybe I can force it to do something [7/7/2020 10:06 PM] michaelb5250 Welcome to try, it's certainly not a great solution at the moment [7/7/2020 10:17 PM] hon1nbo The local account isn't privileged, it's a known endpoint, and otherwise gets domain policies sonim not too worried [7/7/2020 10:18 PM] judykriehn3727 > I'll play with it after we go over things tomorrow. Maybe I can force it to do something @Skyspook [7/7/2020 10:19 PM] judykriehn3727 maybe if you post a video on youtube telling fairy tales about it, it would respond. [7/7/2020 10:19 PM] skyspook lmao. Never known that to work terribly well ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/7/2020 10:20 PM] skyspook And that's a fair point @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium , I just know folks are going to want to get to their member drives and such, and that'll make it easier if we can do the runas. [7/7/2020 10:25 PM] hon1nbo Yeah, you can just open explorer and enter \\files There no Auth on the share (I know) [7/7/2020 10:27 PM] skyspook Ah [7/7/2020 10:27 PM] skyspook I made some assumptions ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/7/2020 11:20 PM] skyspook I have another rpi image created that will do jump server logins. Open source stuff. I'll see if I can get the multicam to work with it tomorrow. [7/8/2020 1:59 PM] themitch22 @Skyspook we already have a rpi rdp client for the jump server by the multicam [7/8/2020 2:01 PM] skyspook Yep, but it's not working, needs a new license to be installed after I replaced the SD card (cause it's proprietary software) and @yashsedai said they haven't answered our emails. [7/8/2020 2:02 PM] skyspook Unless it started working after I left last week? [7/8/2020 2:02 PM] yashsedai I got a reply back [7/8/2020 2:02 PM] skyspook Oh! [7/8/2020 2:18 PM] skyspook Was it good? [7/8/2020 5:31 PM] skyspook Is there a secret server or something for the ipads and square? Looks like os updates hit and I havent found one that's currently in good order [7/8/2020 5:34 PM] yashsedai lol [7/8/2020 5:34 PM] yashsedai nope [7/8/2020 5:34 PM] yashsedai thats part of it [7/8/2020 5:53 PM] skyspook :( [7/9/2020 7:52 AM] nullinterface finally saw the door pulls last weekend and ***damn*** are those things stout [7/9/2020 8:22 AM] canibalcrab Yeah those are awesome [7/9/2020 8:23 AM] skyspook Pretty sure the door will break before they will [7/9/2020 9:54 AM] hon1nbo I concur with @Skyspook 's analysis [7/9/2020 9:57 AM] engpin1964 Donโ€™t worry itโ€™s Dms someone will find away to break one [7/9/2020 9:58 AM] skyspook Crap, forgot that could be construed as a challenge [7/9/2020 10:13 AM] hon1nbo I still believe the door will break before they will [7/9/2020 10:13 AM] hon1nbo by the sheer fact we have shitty doors [7/9/2020 10:16 AM] robert22 The am trying to use a IRS Application and they require a username that is between 8-10 characters.... [7/9/2020 10:16 AM] robert22 What a terrible constraint [7/9/2020 10:16 AM] skyspook This is surprising? [7/9/2020 10:17 AM] robert22 More annoying as I had an account but itโ€™s to long now [7/9/2020 10:17 AM] skyspook Ah yes. Rather annoying then [7/9/2020 10:18 AM] skyspook Only thing that'd be worse would be the same for a password constraint [7/9/2020 10:18 AM] robert22 Password is 8-32 [7/9/2020 10:47 AM] kentamanos clearly nobody has implemented hashing in the COBOL libraries they're using? hehe {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜œ [7/9/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152 (he asks, already knowing the answer...) has anyone asked that Luke Strickland fellow about the voting rights web site code/inner workings? I hear he's not completely off-the-grid and sometimes amenable to inquiry... [7/9/2020 10:59 AM] hon1nbo I mean the code is on github... except the site is running two different versions, on different web ports, and no one has a login [7/9/2020 10:59 AM] hon1nbo and we don't even know if the code on the site is the one from the github [7/9/2020 10:59 AM] hon1nbo etc [7/9/2020 10:59 AM] hon1nbo honestly it just needs to go [7/9/2020 11:00 AM] skyspook I'm open to exploring either the code or another manager. Did you have something in mind? [7/9/2020 11:05 AM] hon1nbo just that people should use accounts@ [7/9/2020 11:05 AM] hon1nbo there's several people that can handle things on it, has a paper trail the entire process, and we have to check in there anyway to see if someone is actually eligible [7/9/2020 11:15 AM] andrew5152 it'd be dandy to make it "inquiry only", in my opinion. That bit is handy dandy. (well, it all is handy dandy, but I can see not wanting to maintain the 'add' functionality if you think accounts@ can git'rdun) [7/9/2020 11:16 AM] andrew5152 also, for someone with Jim's skillset, breaking into admin shouldn't be difficult ๐Ÿ˜‰ [7/9/2020 11:22 AM] kentamanos if we're not resetting rights any more after elections, this is probably "manageable" ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/9/2020 11:23 AM] kentamanos for context @Skyspook , member meetings could never make "quorum" and the thought process was "everyone just asks for voting rights before BOD election, let's just reset them after elections so that quorum might again be reached some day" [7/9/2020 11:23 AM] skyspook Yep, I've heard. I was asked very nicely to not register unless I was really gonna vote [7/9/2020 11:23 AM] kentamanos caused more problems than it was worth and most people don't give a crap about member meetings anyway. There's also a lot of debate on what is allowed in them etc. [7/9/2020 11:24 AM] kentamanos seemed like a good idea at the time...hehe [7/9/2020 11:24 AM] kentamanos it legitimately had good intentions too, even though some people paint it nefariously [7/9/2020 11:25 AM] skyspook You can do that with most things :) [7/9/2020 11:30 AM] andrew5152 it still seems like a good idea some days... [7/9/2020 9:17 PM] slinkygn Is the server the current code sits on not available/accessible? [7/9/2020 9:18 PM] slinkygn I mean, I would imagine that if it were, figuring out if the code on github matches would take all of one diff... [7/9/2020 9:18 PM] slinkygn and that's if it's not being served straight off a git repo on the server itself -- if it is, that's just cut 10mins down to 2 [7/9/2020 9:21 PM] hon1nbo No one knows who set it up, we don't have the info for it. I don't have a login that works as far as I'm aware. It's not using our SSO [7/9/2020 9:21 PM] slinkygn Physical access, then? [7/9/2020 9:21 PM] slinkygn That'd certainly more than do it [7/9/2020 9:22 PM] skyspook I mean, we could probably track down where it is, etc. But then how much time should we spend on a 2 year old abandoned codebase? Definitely need something better for voting access, and that's on the list to deal with after the new board is in place. [7/9/2020 9:22 PM] skyspook Messing with it during elections isn't the best idea [7/9/2020 9:22 PM] yashsedai i have access and know which server it is [7/9/2020 9:23 PM] skyspook Yay, so we know what to either go all hacker on or chuck into the bin? [7/9/2020 9:23 PM] slinkygn I guess you mean MM4? [7/9/2020 9:23 PM] slinkygn (as far as 2yo/abandoned?) [7/9/2020 9:23 PM] skyspook From the repo I found, ya [7/9/2020 9:23 PM] yashsedai mm4 is a lost cause [7/9/2020 9:24 PM] slinkygn yeah, all recent work has been on MM3 [7/9/2020 9:25 PM] slinkygn tbh I didn't even know MM4 existed back when I was working on this stuff -- which it apparently clearly did, despite the fact that we were doing voting rights another way entirely [7/9/2020 9:26 PM] slinkygn I'm happy to take others' word for it that it's a lost cause; I don't want to have to dig through another sloppy codebase ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/9/2020 9:26 PM] skyspook Maybe chuck it, make a site that just shows if someone a) is eligible and b) has rights, and a link to the admin email? [7/9/2020 9:27 PM] slinkygn ...okay, you're about to make me flip my argument ๐Ÿ™‚ building out MM4 seems like little return for a lot of investment, but if we're going to replace "tool we use only for voting" with "other tool we use only for voting" that seems like a waste of effort too [7/9/2020 9:28 PM] slinkygn if the "temporary" fix is going to be a dedicated voting-rights site, we can just call our current rose any other name [7/9/2020 9:28 PM] slinkygn ...no matter how it smells ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/9/2020 9:30 PM] slinkygn I mean, opinion given worth roughly what you paid for it ๐Ÿ™‚ I was just digging through the github code a bit today to see if anything had changed and figured I'd poke my head in. Y'all have been working on it recently, I haven't. I'm guessing I'm just quarantine-bored and chatty. Apologies for the unsolicited advice. ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/9/2020 9:40 PM] skyspook Not at all, I like chatting about it as long as I'm not going in circles... makes me dizzy [7/9/2020 9:40 PM] skyspook I'm not sure what the answer is, but we need to get a handle on it so folks have trust in it at the very least [7/9/2020 9:41 PM] skyspook Even if it's just showing their AD groups in MM3 or something. [7/9/2020 9:44 PM] skyspook @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium - Rando question. Does our google stuff give us anything relating the youtube? I know plenty of people trying to get their heads around some recordings and wasn't sure if we had something there that would help. [7/9/2020 9:48 PM] hon1nbo it has an organisational channel [7/9/2020 9:48 PM] hon1nbo but that's about it [7/9/2020 9:48 PM] hon1nbo oh and I think we have reduced requirements for youtube live, but it still needs a number of subscribers [7/9/2020 9:48 PM] skyspook That's still good to know. [7/9/2020 11:23 PM] robert22 If DMS needs another outdoor camera the P3807 this reserve is 700 and would probably win [7/9/2020 11:23 PM] robert22 https://www.ebay.com/itm/153994942986 {Embed} https://www.ebay.com/itm/153994942986 Axis camera P3807-plve Axis camera P3807-plve. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. 4320x1920 resolution with multi sensor technology for a 180 degree panoramic viewย  Outdoor ready, fully waterproof, drop resistant, https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lLB55WuYnM7mMfngWPeCgRdMubpsb0RTtG1yMWzaEw4/https/i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yGQAAOSwSK5e899X/s-l400.jpg [7/10/2020 6:31 AM] andrew5152 as an outside observer, I'm confused that we 'don't know who set it up'. I have the impression all MM4 & Voting Rights Site work was performed by Luke Strickland. Who is generally available and amenable (not necessarily to "help out", per se, but things like "how's that set up?" and/or "do you have a log in?" would probably be, and may have already been, responded to). But again, as an outside observer, my observations could be completely wrong... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/10/2020 8:25 AM] robert22 Random camera knowledge did yโ€™all see HikVision cameras were banned from all DOD and Govt. Contractrors [7/10/2020 11:51 AM] nullinterface HikVision has been on .gov sh_tlists for a couple years now [7/11/2020 4:39 PM] michaelb5250 Would the checkbox inside the crappy circle have anything to do with why I can't add people to the Laser Teachers AD group? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/731625682949374032/Snapchat-1993214739.jpg?ex=67b8f283&is=67b7a103&hm=9661f0eae02c2ef4ced03a1bb2a64f2d8eb02b3411acb2d343a0fbd644f6548e& [7/11/2020 4:39 PM] skyspook Looks like it [7/11/2020 6:04 PM] yashsedai Try now [7/11/2020 6:18 PM] michaelb5250 All good now [7/11/2020 6:18 PM] michaelb5250 Thanks [7/11/2020 8:06 PM] hon1nbo Lawl sorry, must have missed it when setting that up [7/11/2020 9:32 PM] yashsedai FAIL [7/11/2020 9:32 PM] yashsedai -50 DKP [7/12/2020 6:02 PM] draco_the_drake @LukeStrickland wrote MakerManager 4 and the voting rights website. I believe it is on the accounts server [7/12/2020 6:02 PM] draco_the_drake @slinkygn (George) [7/12/2020 6:03 PM] draco_the_drake The HTTPS site is different code than the HTTP site .. [7/12/2020 6:04 PM] draco_the_drake I'm not certain why someone did that but they are indeed different [7/12/2020 6:04 PM] draco_the_drake The http site said I had voting rights, when I didn't. I had to go to the https to get voting rights [7/12/2020 6:06 PM] draco_the_drake The HTTPS site also allows you to view what AD groups you are part of .. the HTTP site does not [7/12/2020 7:07 PM] slinkygn Are they hosted in different places? That seems like it'd be a simple enough problem to fix. [7/12/2020 7:31 PM] draco_the_drake Same domain name votingrights.dallasmakerspace.org [7/12/2020 7:32 PM] draco_the_drake Yeah I would like to see the source code for the http site [7/12/2020 7:33 PM] draco_the_drake The https sites code is on GitHub under maker manager 4 [7/12/2020 7:35 PM] draco_the_drake If there is a bug on the http site that keeps people from registering then it might be best to remove that one [7/13/2020 2:52 AM] slinkygn well, since I'm back poking my head around again let me know if you guys need a hand. [7/13/2020 3:41 AM] clone1018 The sites should be one in the same? [7/13/2020 3:42 AM] clone1018 I think I store voting rights in local cache for some performance reason [7/13/2020 12:54 PM] draco_the_drake @LukeStrickland Well.. they display differently. different titles ... have different messages ... [7/13/2020 1:21 PM] andrew5152 wiki login seems broken... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/732300611986391080/unknown.png?ex=67b96cd7&is=67b81b57&hm=37ee291b4d03eea42a4f33964c6c1887be3e9b023aae30fb109df9db6c67d0e7& [7/13/2020 1:21 PM] andrew5152 anyone else experiencing this, or just me? [7/13/2020 1:21 PM] skyspook Same here {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/13/2020 1:22 PM] skyspook I thought it syncd, but maybe something broke [7/13/2020 1:25 PM] andrew5152 @aceat64 was the lucky S.O.B. who splinted that widgit last time it was acting up, and might have some insight now, if he as a minute or 2... [7/13/2020 1:25 PM] aceat64 I can probably take a look after work {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [7/13/2020 1:27 PM] skyspook I can't keep up with your name changes :) [7/13/2020 1:28 PM] aceat64 I can't fit all my titles due to discord limitations [7/13/2020 1:28 PM] aceat64 so I rotate them out [7/13/2020 1:28 PM] skyspook Fair enough! [7/13/2020 1:30 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿคฃ I've done the whole issue/request thing, for book keeping (and to annoy people who are on that notifications list) [7/13/2020 1:30 PM] skyspook Gracias [7/13/2020 2:03 PM] nullinterface `Duke of Shale, Lord of The Northlands and the leader of it's peoples` [7/13/2020 2:08 PM] clone1018 I think the wiki login is tied to MM4 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/13/2020 2:41 PM] yashsedai seriously wtf [7/13/2020 3:23 PM] clone1018 what? [7/13/2020 3:29 PM] yashsedai damn mm4 and wiki [7/13/2020 3:32 PM] draco_the_drake As I remember, the wiki was upgraded and the previous plugin for AD did not work and we had to get the wiki up quickly. Luke was working on replacing MM3 with MM4 as the final word on who is a member. So, he quickly wrote a plugin for the wiki to allow logins. [7/13/2020 4:43 PM] clone1018 yeah, the a/d integration with mediawiki was fucked [7/13/2020 4:45 PM] andrew5152 same situation a couple months ago. Mr. LeCody waved his wand @ it and it started working again, so... I reckon when he has the time, he'll know which dust to sprinkle, now... No idea if it's the same bag of magic Luke was using or not... [7/13/2020 6:35 PM] draco_the_drake Looks like the votingrights site is down right now [7/13/2020 8:22 PM] draco_the_drake I guess that is on purpose [7/13/2020 8:23 PM] skyspook Yep, I think it was taken down after the registration deadline. Probably because it was confusing. [7/13/2020 8:40 PM] yashsedai wiki is working again {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/13/2020 8:41 PM] skyspook Thanks! [7/13/2020 8:43 PM] yashsedai yw [7/16/2020 5:03 PM] robert22 Anyone seen the error [7/16/2020 5:03 PM] robert22 โ€œUnable to verify authorization token due to sever clock differences. please try againโ€ [7/16/2020 5:04 PM] robert22 Trying to do authentication through google to talk [7/16/2020 5:06 PM] hon1nbo yeah the google sign in is buggy [7/16/2020 5:07 PM] hon1nbo ever since the original IDp certs were pulled (they were on a personal gmail) I couldn't get it working quite right [7/16/2020 5:07 PM] hon1nbo it's been pretty low on the totem pole since you can set a password and login normally [7/16/2020 5:07 PM] hon1nbo well, I guessed they were on a personal gmail [7/16/2020 5:07 PM] hon1nbo no clue really, they were just invalid one day and couldn't find where [7/17/2020 7:19 PM] canibalcrab You went Mac? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/733840436573110342/JPEG_20200717_191946.jpg?ex=67b9182a&is=67b7c6aa&hm=e480f6efa74bc7677635a703fa5731182e997bdd6c143786b8cfbc0edb5fc74c& [7/17/2020 7:28 PM] yashsedai *points at Jim* [7/17/2020 7:31 PM] skyspook Not it [7/17/2020 8:23 PM] themitch22 I am guessing that won't upgrade to the latest OS whatever [7/17/2020 8:41 PM] skyspook Honestly I'm not even sure which one that is. Some iMac... G5? [7/17/2020 9:20 PM] hon1nbo It works, it's clean, it was free. and we don't have a Mac for general use. Figured it would be nice for our members that are Mac users and not familiar with windows etc. Still need to set it up [7/17/2020 10:04 PM] themitch22 that grungy keyboard could be replaced though [7/17/2020 10:05 PM] hon1nbo Indeed [7/17/2020 10:05 PM] skyspook Meh, just put it in the dishwasher [7/17/2020 10:11 PM] hon1nbo I mean as long as it has time to dry before it's plugged in [7/17/2020 10:11 PM] hon1nbo :P [7/17/2020 10:12 PM] skyspook Done. Works most of the time [7/17/2020 10:12 PM] skyspook If the keys don't melt off ๐Ÿ˜‰ [7/18/2020 3:14 AM] nullinterface *assume* infra is making changes to various distribution lists... [7/18/2020 3:16 AM] yashsedai changes, what changes ๐Ÿ˜› [7/18/2020 3:17 AM] nullinterface add/remove [7/20/2020 12:33 PM] robert22 Anyone have any alarm suggestions I had SimpliSafe but removed them and replaced all the sensors with SmartThings sensors. Itโ€™s pretty much a smart house with all the IOT stuff but now I am thinking about actions and looking for suggestions. [7/20/2020 12:35 PM] robert22 For example silent alarm vs audible, strobe lights/pre record messages [7/21/2020 7:47 PM] skyspook I'm thinking of trying to get some google meet hardware -- make it easier for committees to have split in-person and online meetings. Anybody have any thoughts? [7/21/2020 7:47 PM] robert22 There hardware company calls me about every 5 months [7/21/2020 7:47 PM] robert22 The group that sells the google meet hardware [7/21/2020 7:48 PM] skyspook Just to chat? ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/21/2020 7:48 PM] robert22 Ya I was going to order it for DMS about 4 years ago [7/21/2020 7:48 PM] robert22 So they call to chat [7/21/2020 7:48 PM] skyspook Fair enough. I know @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium mentioned it once, and it might be nice to wire up one of the rooms. Make it super easy to just start a meeting [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 Some of it looks good but itโ€™s not as polished as other alternatives [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 But google meet is also not super solid [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 Compared to WebEx [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 Etc [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] skyspook Not as much, but we get it with our G-Suite. So the price is nice [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] robert22 True canโ€™t argue that [7/21/2020 7:49 PM] skyspook And it's been as stable as teams and skype for me [7/21/2020 7:56 PM] robert22 Ultimately was going to do the Logitech setup with there PTZ camera and even had it purchased but it was stolen [7/21/2020 7:57 PM] hon1nbo It's integrations, being free for us, a common platform, and not needing browser plugins / software on most things are the major selling points for us {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [7/21/2020 7:57 PM] hon1nbo Plus I've started setting up the Shared Resources in G Suite [7/21/2020 7:59 PM] robert22 At this point though the webcams are probably the way to go [7/21/2020 7:59 PM] robert22 That mount on top of the TV [7/21/2020 7:59 PM] skyspook Pretty much. They have a decent 4k wide lens that's in their cheaper version [7/21/2020 8:00 PM] skyspook All told, basic system, touch screen, and 2 speaker/mics would be about 2500 [7/21/2020 8:00 PM] robert22 Microsofts 360 camera that pulls video from the talker with directional mics is cool through [7/21/2020 8:01 PM] skyspook They are cool. I'm mostly going for luddite-proof, or at least as close as possible. [7/21/2020 8:02 PM] robert22 Webcam [7/21/2020 8:02 PM] robert22 For sure [7/21/2020 8:02 PM] robert22 And hopefully will not be stolen [7/21/2020 8:03 PM] skyspook Cable and lock everything down we can. If we make it mobile, lock it in the supplies closet for badge logging [7/21/2020 8:04 PM] skyspook I'm split between just wiring up lecture hall, or doing some mobile setup. The latter would be harder for folks though [7/21/2020 8:04 PM] robert22 For mobile the 360 cameras are pretty interesting options I did not consider it until I tried it [7/21/2020 8:05 PM] robert22 Pretty sure you could find one with a good mic and itโ€™s completely self contained [7/21/2020 8:05 PM] robert22 It works really well on YouTube [7/21/2020 8:05 PM] robert22 I am not sure about google meet though [7/21/2020 8:36 PM] robert22 https://www.owllabs.com/meeting-owl {Embed} https://www.owllabs.com/meeting-owl Meeting Owl & Meeting Owl Pro | The best 360ยฐ smart conference came... The Meeting Owl and the Meeting Owl Pro are loved by 30,000+ businesses to help bring distributed teams together for better work. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/dLBCLNInAuXuIpIWcuaSwCTVXDbnOT70095Zya5spPQ/https/www.owllabs.com/hubfs/Social-post-preview_Instagram-Linkedin-2.png [7/21/2020 8:36 PM] robert22 Check out this thing [7/21/2020 8:39 PM] skyspook They look a lot cooler than they are [7/21/2020 8:39 PM] skyspook I've tried them, and they get easily confused [7/21/2020 8:43 PM] robert22 I used the Microsoft round table at the time and it was solid but these days everything is on laptops with COVID [7/23/2020 5:55 PM] andrew5152 has this been given discussion/thought/consideration to make the wiki more mobile freindly? (I think I already know the response, but asking anyway...) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend {Embed} https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend Extension:MobileFrontend The MobileFrontend extension: Creates a separate mobile site for your mobile traffic, System administrators are able to provide a different skin, e.g. Skin:Minerva Neue. provides various content transformations to make your content more friendly, Notably section collapsing an... [7/23/2020 5:55 PM] skyspook We've been talking about replacing it with confluence {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 5:55 PM] skyspook And that has some good mobile support [7/23/2020 5:56 PM] skyspook If not, we're due for a wiki upgrade anyway, so I'd be up for looking at that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 6:00 PM] andrew5152 I'm not familiar with confluence, and the fact that their ads effectively look like wordpress/sharepoint clones is kind of a turnoff but I'll learn to use whatever; I do know we need something more mobile friendly, given the increased ranking for mobile friendly for google/other search providers and, well, the fact that so many people now tend to use some sort of mobile device for browsing most of the time (per my perception - no actual data will be provided to support that assertion) [7/23/2020 6:01 PM] skyspook It's much more like wiki, but is organized into "spaces". We wouldn't be using their cloud version, which is a bit more like WordPress {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 6:02 PM] skyspook And yes, most people use mobile (I and right now). My sites generally see 60-80% mobile these days {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 6:03 PM] andrew5152 have you seen Kevin's posts re: google search rankings? (or, to ask another way, have you done/been involved with any efforts to ensure those don't fall further and/or improve them?) [7/23/2020 6:05 PM] skyspook I haven't been involved yet, but it's on my radar. Google makes it pretty easy to find things that make you fall. The rest is creating constant content, which we're kinda doing but might not be getting counted all the way {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 6:05 PM] skyspook I'd need to get access to our console [7/23/2020 6:07 PM] andrew5152 yeah. not sure who has/can do that... maybe jim, freddie, or (most likely, I think) JJ... But you already know that, so I'm not really helping here... Good to hear it's on the list. ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 6:08 PM] skyspook Nope, you're helping. I haven't been around long enough to know the answers to "who" at the very least. I'm missing the communal history [7/23/2020 6:08 PM] skyspook So I appreciate the prompts [7/23/2020 6:09 PM] andrew5152 I think Robert (Davidson) is actually probably the "original" holder, but surely someone else has access these days... [7/23/2020 6:09 PM] andrew5152 plus, Ken knows all. ๐Ÿ˜„ [7/23/2020 6:16 PM] andrew5152 Some historical reading links, if you wanna delve into it (some of this is redundant) https://www.dprg.org/founding-of-the-dallas-maker-space/ https://www.dprg.org/dms-insights/ https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/a-touch-of-dallas-makerspace-history-highlights-special-events/3216?u=lisaselk https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page {Embed} Robie_robot https://www.dprg.org/founding-of-the-dallas-maker-space/ Founding of the Dallas Maker Space - dprg.org As of March 2017, the Dallas Maker Space (DMS) is aย 501(c)(3) non-profit, shared community workshop and laboratory with approximately 1500 members and 16,800 sq ft of floor space. Below, is the original project tracking done by Ed Paradis and Steve Rainwater. Additional insigh... {Embed} Robie_robot https://www.dprg.org/dms-insights/ DMS Insights - dprg.org Below is Steve Rainwaterโ€™s response to a few questions about the start of the Dallas Maker Space provided in March of 2017. >> Q1 When roughly did DPRG move into and out of the facility (โ€œtheย warehouseโ€) that was provided by Mike Dodson? The photos in the DPRG warehouse photo ... {Embed} https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page Talk:Main Page [7/23/2020 6:16 PM] skyspook Thanks! [7/23/2020 6:49 PM] skyspook I had read of dprg, but this pulls a lot together for me, thanks [7/23/2020 6:56 PM] andrew5152 Note Rainwaters pic of the final locking of the former location: Doug is doing the locking... [7/23/2020 6:56 PM] skyspook I noticed ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 7:01 PM] skyspook It fills in some gaps for me, and the existence of dprg would have been a pretty big factor in success -- just coming from my experience of trying to rally people together without an existing nexus. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 7:12 PM] andrew5152 indeed. DPRG deserves a bigger plaque than they have @ DMS, in my opinion... [7/23/2020 7:25 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure if it was just the size of my employers confluence site, but damn that thing was slow. Put a page up that has links to its child pages and boom 5-10 second load time hit. [7/23/2020 7:26 PM] michaelb5250 It was nice otherwise. Certainly easier to navigate than a wiki [7/23/2020 7:31 PM] hon1nbo it's never been the fastest, but scale makes a huge difference [7/23/2020 7:32 PM] kenpurcell When I started to work on our main sites WordPress install I added Google Analytics to get a baseline. I want to eventually rework the site template and features organization. There is a lot of broken/old stuff. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/736017837713260664/Analytics_All_DMS_Data_Overview_20200527-20200722.pdf?ex=67b91b07&is=67b7c987&hm=e95b10521b5b6feea32cec49c20a292f54c0170a76509e13e76c6d8b5b04f90b& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™‚๏ธ [7/23/2020 7:45 PM] skyspook @michaelb - I manage one at work with around 1500 users. If you don't tune the JVM, it'll die a slow death [7/23/2020 7:46 PM] skyspook Or don't do index maintenance, etc [7/23/2020 7:46 PM] skyspook I'm certainly open to helping out with that. I know a decent amount around wordpress and other such things. [7/23/2020 7:47 PM] skyspook @Lampy (Ken Purcell) [7/23/2020 7:47 PM] michaelb5250 Oh that's cool. I don't know what our IT department kept up with but good to know there are reasons/things to do [7/23/2020 7:48 PM] skyspook When I took over, they had "forgotten" to increase the memory on the jvm. Machine has 8 gb, but the site could only use 1 [7/23/2020 7:48 PM] skyspook And people were grumbling about it all the time ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/23/2020 7:51 PM] michaelb5250 Lol, that's... Scary. We had something like 5k users at work, pretty much the whole company used it. [7/23/2020 7:52 PM] skyspook They also have a datacenter products to scale horizontally. I would recommend it over 2k users [7/23/2020 7:52 PM] skyspook And really, with their licensing, it's cheaper to go that way over that amount [7/23/2020 7:52 PM] skyspook But anyway.... [7/23/2020 7:54 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah we won't be hitting those numbers, I just knee-jerk associate confluence with painful load times. [7/23/2020 7:54 PM] skyspook Fair enough [7/23/2020 7:54 PM] skyspook I have a few of those [7/23/2020 7:54 PM] yashsedai hehe [7/23/2020 7:55 PM] michaelb5250 But yeah I think it's a lot more useable than the wiki so if it ever gets off the ground I'm more than willing to add laser stuff to get some content in it. [7/23/2020 7:56 PM] yashsedai only hold up is a/c {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/23/2020 7:56 PM] yashsedai which is progressing [7/23/2020 7:56 PM] yashsedai they are bought [7/23/2020 7:56 PM] yashsedai install will be soon [7/23/2020 7:57 PM] michaelb5250 Oh yeah, that'll be cool [7/23/2020 7:58 PM] yashsedai lol literally [7/23/2020 8:02 PM] skyspook Yea, last I saw Tim needed to get new lines [7/24/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/machine-badge-access/73350/3?u=jast nice! {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/machine-badge-access/73350/3?u=jast Machine Badge Access You can see your groups in MM4 (lower-right corner) https://makermanager.dallasmakerspace.org/ Just donโ€™t try to use it for badge management or anything else really. Itโ€™s only partially working right now (use the link for the maker manager at the top here for everything else... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [7/24/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152 join date is...wrong... but cool for checking AD memberships... [7/24/2020 9:28 AM] skyspook Yea, mm4 is... Unfinished. But I like you can at least see groups [7/24/2020 9:33 AM] robert22 For teachers and admins of the woodshop interlock they also have this access {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/736229591731011725/image0.png?ex=67b9377d&is=67b7e5fd&hm=e1e418b9bbbf749ab17aba92a0839cdd8f027e5ac6cc3e841be9b6d6e1ddedab& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/24/2020 9:34 AM] skyspook I'll have to check that out [7/24/2020 11:16 AM] nullinterface for all the pissing and moaning about the wiki and how **hard** it was to use *(markup language too hard!!!!111one)*, fixing the visual visual editor pretty much did f__king nothing to change things. the hard truth is people don't like creating documentation. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [7/24/2020 11:16 AM] skyspook Aint that the truth [7/24/2020 11:16 AM] skyspook It's just an excuse. Fix one and they'll find another [7/24/2020 11:17 AM] nullinterface migrating to a new platform might make for easier administration but it isn't going to get people to document things [7/24/2020 11:17 AM] skyspook Nope. Separate problem. [7/24/2020 11:17 AM] andrew5152 and it'll break dumbasses like me who *like* wiki [7/24/2020 11:18 AM] skyspook And the former is much easier than the latter [7/24/2020 11:18 AM] skyspook Lol [7/24/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152 (even if we're not very good at it) [7/24/2020 11:18 AM] skyspook I can put a markdown plugin just for you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/24/2020 11:19 AM] nullinterface we've got confluence at work and save for the people that have to use it as part of their workflow (development), there's a huge absence between their noisy - and largely theoretical - documents on everything and the few **distilled** process docs that operations has [7/24/2020 11:19 AM] andrew5152 visual editor ~~makes~~ keeps me insane as does trying to help people use it (because just using classic is soooo much better) [7/24/2020 11:20 AM] nullinterface I've used both. different tools for different tasks. [7/24/2020 11:20 AM] nullinterface tables - visual editor for sure [7/24/2020 11:21 AM] andrew5152 meh [7/24/2020 11:21 AM] andrew5152 (I guess I SHOULD try it...never have...) [7/24/2020 11:21 AM] nullinterface outlines - find it easier to insert the markup than deal with the clicking around and seemingly un-memorizable keyboard commands for managing indents [7/24/2020 11:23 AM] nullinterface one thing that I believe members struggle with is that the wiki - and confluence - demand fairly structured documentation with few opportunities for the kinds of ~~self-indulgence~~ *visual flourish* one sees in the likes of Word documentation or *(shudder)* ***Powerpoint*** "documentation" [7/24/2020 11:24 AM] skyspook Boring = maintainable [7/24/2020 11:24 AM] skyspook I suppose we could use comic sans or something [7/24/2020 11:24 AM] nullinterface header section subsection text outline table blocktext - no opportunity for whatever font strikes your fancy, centering all the lines, animated backgrounds, etc [7/24/2020 11:24 AM] skyspook Blink tag! [7/24/2020 11:25 AM] skyspook Bring it back [7/24/2020 11:25 AM] nullinterface I suppose I could start disliking you on general principles {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [7/24/2020 11:25 AM] skyspook Lol [7/24/2020 11:25 AM] skyspook I'll put the snark away now :) [7/24/2020 11:26 AM] andrew5152 most people today don't like to read [7/24/2020 11:26 AM] andrew5152 and many of our more creatives, don't really like to have their stuff read [7/24/2020 11:26 AM] andrew5152 maybe video "documentation"? [7/24/2020 11:26 AM] andrew5152 ROFL [7/24/2020 11:26 AM] nullinterface https://giphy.com/gifs/the-office-panda-rage-EtB1yylKGGAUg {Embed} https://giphy.com/gifs/the-office-panda-rage-EtB1yylKGGAUg https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qXBGRyJ9z41BRsznIVT79tqX0U2Os7satJeQDrTqu58/%3Fcid%3D73b8f7b15b4f24024198dcb5f9c778a0e9995d1ef57a8c48%26rid%3Dgiphy_s.gif/https/media2.giphy.com/media/EtB1yylKGGAUg/giphy_s.gif {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [7/24/2020 11:27 AM] andrew5152 I confess, as little creativity as I have, sometimes I find it annoying to not be able to place whatever, whereever, just because that's where I want it. but you buck up and move on. [7/24/2020 11:28 AM] nullinterface But hey - I've done *tech writing* professionally so I've got some sort of masochism thing going on [7/24/2020 11:28 AM] skyspook It's just responsibility. At some point we decided some minimum documentation useful. Therefore, if you want to run things you just need to do the thing and move on with your life. [7/24/2020 11:29 AM] nullinterface as much as I hear praises sung about the military manuals from the mid 20th century I wonder if there's a style guide for them [7/24/2020 11:29 AM] nullinterface written with reasonably simple language that conveys the principles to a wide audience *concisely* [7/24/2020 11:31 AM] skyspook Should be somewhere. That's a good question [7/24/2020 11:37 AM] andrew5152 hm. Concise is not a phrase I generally associate with military documentation... Simple language, yes. [7/24/2020 11:53 AM] kenpurcell Ya'll are killing me! I used to produce training videos for an oil company. The majority of which said: "Do not turn this valve, ever!" What did they do? Turned the valve an now the platform is on fire. Thanks! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคž (2) [7/24/2020 11:54 AM] skyspook Our brains don't understand "no". Like, don't think of a pink elephant wearing a rainbow tutu [7/24/2020 11:54 AM] skyspook All they understood was "turn this valve" [7/24/2020 11:55 AM] andrew5152 maybe 'turn this valve for instant, liquified, death' would get the message across? [7/24/2020 11:55 AM] andrew5152 er, 'instant, liquified death' [7/24/2020 11:55 AM] andrew5152 got comma happy, there, eh [7/24/2020 11:57 AM] skyspook No, I like it the first way {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [7/24/2020 11:58 AM] andrew5152 but then I'd want to see what the first two are, and hope I don't get the last [7/24/2020 11:58 AM] andrew5152 I mean, the odds are in my favor, death being only 1/3 of the opportunities... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [7/24/2020 11:59 AM] andrew5152 oh, wait...liquified might not be something I want to see, either... [7/24/2020 11:59 AM] andrew5152 death MIGHT be implicit, there [7/24/2020 11:59 AM] kenpurcell Our ARCO Refinery in Texas City had signs that said: "Do not open - 400ยบ Kerosene" This valve was 25 feet off the ground with a second sign. Insta-fried a guy on a ladder. [7/24/2020 12:00 PM] andrew5152 good god [7/24/2020 12:00 PM] skyspook Oh my [7/24/2020 12:00 PM] andrew5152 where there's a will, there's a way [7/24/2020 12:00 PM] andrew5152 sometimes a blackbox recovery on a person might be a nice thing... [7/24/2020 12:01 PM] andrew5152 just what in the heck WERE you thinking, Jim? [7/24/2020 12:01 PM] kenpurcell I got to shoot documentary footage to use in the following court case. [7/24/2020 12:01 PM] andrew5152 heh..."got to" [7/24/2020 12:04 PM] kenpurcell My wife also worked for ARCO. She got to edit video depositions all the time. This dude got ran over by his own earth mover. He got out and forgot to set the parking brake. Almost seemed cartoon like where it had pushed him into the ground level with the surface. She still shudders when thinking of that project. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ต [7/24/2020 12:04 PM] skyspook Oof. I can only imagine [7/24/2020 12:32 PM] kentamanos https://i.gifer.com/1Kj6.gif {Embed} https://i.gifer.com/1Kj6.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kdlsD1nPTFDjAfBroUyQHFRPiPR1HoUu17N8RVDAkRo/https/i.gifer.com/1Kj6.gif [7/24/2020 12:48 PM] nullinterface the couple of military manuals I read (FM 22-5 being the foremost because JROTC) did manage to describe the processes involved with about the minimum of verbiage [7/24/2020 1:22 PM] ferricyanide7475 Oof none of our SOPs are simple, concise, straight forward and easy to read. Convoluted and 127 pages on some if them is more accurate. [7/24/2020 1:29 PM] kentamanos Where I work, one of our guidance documents talks about how long documents are bad because people don't read them. It mentions this on page 56 of a 265 page document. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (3) [7/24/2020 1:36 PM] ferricyanide7475 ๐Ÿ˜‚Yeah, we end up in CFT meetings discussing different interpretations of documents and what is allowed as per the wording. Usually they make us train on it and i try to remember to save a copy on my computer. Because our search function for those documents suck and having a copy with the document number makes it easier to fond the latest version because of course we are supposed to use the lastest version. And they tell you not to save copies because it makes you more prone to not pull the lastest version. But like someone asked me yesterday if i knew what the document number of something was.... I didn't have that one and asked 5 other people with no luck. I tried searching in the stupid document system and couldn't find it. Just dumb [7/24/2020 1:41 PM] andrew5152 Share (what is the) Point FTW [7/24/2020 1:41 PM] andrew5152 (I could be wrong, but lots of the Military has gone to SP...which is absolutely confounding. As is the fact that Microsoft has never, ever, in the history of ever, been able to get a search to work...) [7/24/2020 3:38 PM] judykriehn3727 > I suppose we could use comic sans or something @Skyspook [7/24/2020 3:38 PM] skyspook Don't hurt me... [7/24/2020 3:40 PM] judykriehn3727 (Slap, slap, slap) comic sans? CURSE YOU! [7/24/2020 3:40 PM] judykriehn3727 Hmmm Discord apparently takes issue with me denigrating Comic Sans. [7/24/2020 3:57 PM] andrew5152 what's wrong with comic sans? beats whatever the garbage is Word uses by default these days... [7/24/2020 4:10 PM] judykriehn3727 You are SOOOooo not a graphic designer, dude. Itโ€™s better than people who use script fonts in all caps, but not much better. And I havenโ€™t used a default font in years. And for the record, I donโ€™t know whatโ€™s going on with Patrickโ€™s new wear a mask sign either. Thatโ€™s a questionable font choice as well. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/24/2020 4:11 PM] andrew5152 I am not. [7/24/2020 4:11 PM] andrew5152 this one? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/736329699483058296/7e150f9aab5c781a180cc2ef68890d64c90bcc77.png?ex=67b8ebf8&is=67b79a78&hm=294c4cfc6e61b8d2e33f65dbae2d447d7f190bce8f032c45a77cade0bf052bed& [7/24/2020 4:12 PM] judykriehn3727 Yeah. Donโ€™t be a potato bird face, wear a mask? [7/24/2020 4:12 PM] andrew5152 I'll confess, my wife (minor in technical writing) has, after 25 years, managed to NOT have to explain to me the difference between serif and sans-serif fonts... I mean, she still does, out of habit, but she doesn't HAVE to... [7/24/2020 4:13 PM] kentamanos it's if the T has little vertical bars on the ends I think ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/24/2020 4:13 PM] andrew5152 ROFL [7/24/2020 4:13 PM] andrew5152 I look for the feetsies on the...um...some characters... [7/24/2020 4:13 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [7/24/2020 4:13 PM] kentamanos hehe, yep ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/24/2020 4:13 PM] judykriehn3727 But to be fair there are serif fonts that arenโ€™t very apparent. Like Optima. [7/24/2020 4:14 PM] andrew5152 and I can tell you the assholes who overhauled our websites chose the absolute shittiest font/fontsize combo EVER! "accessible" my ass. [7/24/2020 4:15 PM] judykriehn3727 Our as in DMS or our as in your employer? [7/24/2020 4:15 PM] andrew5152 my employer [7/24/2020 4:15 PM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/736330796222382152/unknown.png?ex=67b8ecfe&is=67b79b7e&hm=0ae0a755d39b92434366c3816a8340d58e224b819af85349eadd0df4eed3509d& [7/24/2020 4:16 PM] kentamanos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ {Embed} Saturday Night Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ Papyrus - SNL Years after Avatar's release, there's one thing Steven (Ryan Gosling) just can't get over. #SNL #SNLPremiere #SNL43 Subscribe to SNL:ย https://goo.gl/tUsXwM Stream Current Full Episodes:ย http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live Watch Past SNL Seasons:ย  Google Play -ย http://bit... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/TJc9iQfk4kXik8KeHUfqvIzFACCe5_Ji17hg7_2V9Es/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/jVhlJNJopOQ/maxresdefault.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [7/24/2020 4:18 PM] judykriehn3727 Most accessibility rules were made by the govโ€™ment. And itโ€™s inconsistent at best. At least the finally stopped kissing the ass of the bitch up north who spends all of her waking hours seeking out โ€œunconformingโ€ websites and filing complaints with the EEOC. [7/24/2020 4:18 PM] judykriehn3727 Thatโ€™s was a hysterical skit. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [7/24/2020 4:42 PM] andrew5152 yeah. that....skit...is largely me with avatar in general [7/24/2020 4:42 PM] andrew5152 un effing obtainium. srlsly?!? [7/24/2020 4:42 PM] andrew5152 we're done here [7/24/2020 4:43 PM] andrew5152 oh, and the whole of avatarland in disneyworld? utter shit don't waste your time. we did. want my hours back. [7/24/2020 4:53 PM] andrew5152 heh. This made me chuckle {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/736340280994693190/unknown.png?ex=67b8f5d3&is=67b7a453&hm=c05ac6a47885a33d54deed49d505d507c7bcd3bc71abad7456ee77471d63a6c1& [7/24/2020 4:53 PM] andrew5152 lets here it for profreedrs! [7/24/2020 5:09 PM] kentamanos hehe [7/24/2020 8:10 PM] skyspook Put up the proposal for some google meet hardware I spoke of previously - https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/20200806-bod-agenda-item-acquire-lecture-hall-video-hardware/73373 [7/24/2020 8:11 PM] robert22 Looks like a good option [7/24/2020 8:11 PM] skyspook Trying to go for easy-as-possible. I don't actually want to maintain it much ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/24/2020 8:11 PM] skyspook I'm sure we could make something cheaper, but it would be less user friendly and have to be maintained more [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 I could not tell does it come with a CPU [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 Something to tie it together [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] skyspook Yes, it comes with a Chromebox [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] skyspook Which means we can tie it into our GSuite and manage it remotely [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 Cool [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 Hard to mess that up [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] skyspook 'zactly [7/24/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 But good luck! [7/24/2020 8:13 PM] skyspook We'll see. It's a chunk of change, but probably worth it [7/24/2020 8:13 PM] robert22 If I had to bet there are teleconference setups all over the US that will not be used for a while now [7/24/2020 8:13 PM] robert22 I have not even been to a office since March [7/24/2020 8:14 PM] skyspook Well, if that's what happens with this I'd be happy. Maybe someone knows of one that can come out way ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/24/2020 8:14 PM] robert22 For sure worth the try [7/24/2020 8:14 PM] robert22 and easy to reproduce [7/24/2020 8:14 PM] skyspook I think it's especially important if we're going to require online components for meetings [7/24/2020 8:14 PM] robert22 It may not even be necessary to go with a โ€œPackageโ€ [7/24/2020 8:15 PM] robert22 For future builds [7/24/2020 8:15 PM] skyspook True [7/26/2020 12:42 PM] james_david_vance @A. Spencer(jast) taking calendar discussion here I don't see a "no room" option, just "online only" and "off-site, see event description" I'd probably call it something like "office hours/no reservation needed" We're talking about how to support office hours. Currently, to put a class or event up on the calendar, you have to reserve a space or designate it as off-site or online only. But for office hours, you should be able to have two people doing office hours in the common area at the same time, and I know that the way I'd do it personally is I'd just put some way to contact me in the calendar description, and be able to move around as required. I think it's clear to everyone that one of our most valuable resources is all the knowledge and skills we have at the space. Now is probably not the time to do a little campaign reaching out to members to do office hours on what they know, but it might be something to look at in the future. What does everyone think? [7/26/2020 12:43 PM] james_david_vance I know personally, this is something that's appealing to me because of the low overhead, I don't have to set anything up, prepare a class, all I have to do is put it on the calendar and show up at the space with my laptop [7/26/2020 1:37 PM] hon1nbo office hours either need a room, or online only [7/26/2020 1:37 PM] hon1nbo the offsite is for things like special events at conventions [7/26/2020 1:37 PM] hon1nbo there literally is not another option [7/26/2020 1:38 PM] hon1nbo the common area isn't able to be reserved exlusively {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/26/2020 1:38 PM] hon1nbo certain rooms on the calendar allow simultaneous booking because of that nature. [7/26/2020 1:38 PM] hon1nbo where you can have things present there, but you can't reserve the whole room [7/26/2020 1:42 PM] andrew5152 so 'common room' is NOT able to be reserved, thus, it would serve this purpose. If I'm understanding @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium correctly. Book it & call it a day. Realize anyone else can book it, too, so it's not a reservation. Whomever shows, shows, and can hang in the common room with you. Hopefully anyone showing up in the common room for another party will play nicely (which is kind of the point of the common room anyway, generally) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/26/2020 1:43 PM] andrew5152 I was probably thinking about the 'no tool' entries for claiming tools for classes. I was thinking there was one like that for "room", too... [7/26/2020 1:44 PM] andrew5152 huh. appears "no tool" entries have gone away, too... ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [7/26/2020 1:46 PM] hon1nbo You just don't select a tool when booking [7/26/2020 1:46 PM] andrew5152 yep [7/26/2020 1:46 PM] andrew5152 and has it been made so one can de-select an accidentally selected tool when booking? [7/26/2020 1:47 PM] andrew5152 which was my impetus for asking for such an entry {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/26/2020 7:05 PM] judykriehn3727 The lobby conference room might be a good place for office hours. It's currently the smallest space available. [7/26/2020 7:11 PM] canibalcrab :wtfisthis: [7/26/2020 7:12 PM] canibalcrab thats not very covid of you [7/29/2020 6:24 PM] michaelb5250 Hey a fusion teacher (Chris) is telling me they can't add students to the fusion users group. Can the laser teachers group manage the fusion users group? [7/29/2020 6:24 PM] skyspook I'll check [7/29/2020 6:27 PM] skyspook Looks like I need to add the group as the manager. give me a sec [7/29/2020 6:29 PM] skyspook Alright, teachers can manage fusion now [7/30/2020 2:02 PM] skyspook Gods help me, I have to take "IT security training" [7/30/2020 2:02 PM] robert22 Excellent! [7/30/2020 2:03 PM] skyspook Oh, did you know, there's no end to a hacker's bag of evil tricks? [7/30/2020 2:03 PM] skyspook They may even sneak into your building and pretend to belong there! [7/30/2020 2:04 PM] robert22 Sure they are like leprechauns [7/30/2020 2:04 PM] skyspook Looking at you @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium sounds like you're evil ;) {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [7/30/2020 2:08 PM] michaelb5250 Might even _gasp_ have a clipboard! [7/30/2020 2:09 PM] skyspook With papers and a pen! [7/30/2020 2:09 PM] skyspook The horror [7/30/2020 2:09 PM] robert22 I did some consulting with the SNL producers to make some HIPAA training and it turned out awesome [7/30/2020 2:10 PM] andrew5152 sounds like mitnick's stuff (but then again, aren't they all the same?) [7/30/2020 2:10 PM] robert22 Lots of short videos that were a lot of funny situations [7/30/2020 2:10 PM] robert22 But impacted info Sec [7/30/2020 2:12 PM] michaelb5250 I would love for someone to require us to go through that. The IT guy assigns our passwords, and a former employee figured out the pattern he used to use and spent the day correctly guessing others passwords. [7/30/2020 2:14 PM] michaelb5250 Man I'm just whining about the office on every channel today ๐Ÿ˜… [7/30/2020 2:14 PM] robert22 Random but I think with all this COVID stuff I may move on to a boat and go on a trip [7/30/2020 2:14 PM] skyspook Yea, this is targeted towards business users. Not bad for that really, warns against phishing and whatnot [7/30/2020 2:15 PM] skyspook Knowbe4, think it's actually associated with Mitnick, @A. Spencer(jast) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/30/2020 2:20 PM] robert22 https://youtu.be/AKelsrOwJOw {Embed} Mimecast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKelsrOwJOw Cybersecurity Training Done Right - Mimecast Security Awareness Tra... Research shows that human error is involved in 90%+ of all security breaches. If your employees arenโ€™t ready for a cyberattack, your organization is at risk. Introducing Mimecast Security Awareness Training! Learn More: https://www.mimecast.com/products/awareness-training/ https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/u45ev8JZTpvNA-GZnvE1XR4T8JS1KsLPOBEa6Lgslbc/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/AKelsrOwJOw/maxresdefault.jpg [7/30/2020 2:20 PM] robert22 Here is the training I thought it turned out pretty good {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/30/2020 2:28 PM] hon1nbo I'm sorry @michaelb did you say that you're assigned a password? I think I just vomited a little bit in my mouth {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฎ [7/30/2020 2:30 PM] michaelb5250 Yes we all are! [7/30/2020 2:30 PM] hon1nbo @Skyspook funny thing about knowbe4 service. I own the domain name know-be4.com and use it to phish know-be4 customers during engagements with clients There's even a known client enumeration on the knowbe4 service that allows me to determine if a client has setup an account with them before I try to spoof them {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [7/30/2020 2:30 PM] hon1nbo that's disgusting michael and I hope to see whomever came up with that requirement get a nice, firm slap from a security consultant [7/30/2020 2:37 PM] canibalcrab A former employer I that used individual accounts for each physical location to sell on Amazon just used the store number+company abbreviation as the password for the accounts. [7/30/2020 2:37 PM] canibalcrab AND each account had their own PayPal. [7/30/2020 2:37 PM] canibalcrab The password system was the same [7/30/2020 2:38 PM] canibalcrab Guess what was on each address? The company abbreviation+store number [7/30/2020 2:39 PM] hon1nbo I see that crap all the time [7/30/2020 2:39 PM] hon1nbo for shared accounts at least [7/30/2020 2:39 PM] hon1nbo I less often see cases like what Michael has [7/30/2020 2:39 PM] robert22 Yep and dates [7/30/2020 2:39 PM] robert22 So many dates [7/30/2020 2:40 PM] robert22 And seasons [7/30/2020 2:40 PM] hon1nbo Summer2020 is currently at the top of my first things to try when I need to guess [7/30/2020 2:40 PM] skyspook That's awesome @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium if I thought our business users could handle it, I'd bring you in. You'd likely destroy them though [7/30/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo come on, I'm a professional consultant. I can go easy on them if needed ๐Ÿ˜› [7/30/2020 2:41 PM] skyspook Lol [7/30/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo so far though when the gloves are off I have a near 100% success rate. I've had a single client break that from being a true 100 [7/30/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo and they're the reason my hair is not all the way down my back [7/30/2020 2:41 PM] skyspook Lol. [7/30/2020 2:42 PM] skyspook We still email around all sorts of PII. Finally stopped the SSNs and bank account numbers at least [7/30/2020 2:42 PM] hon1nbo I once filed a cease and desist through the county against a target; the cease and desist was itself a phishing expedition {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [7/30/2020 2:42 PM] skyspook And it's getting better all the time [7/30/2020 2:42 PM] hon1nbo where the affidavit that could be signed and uploaded went to a malicious "document portal" where I spiked the browser using BEEF. [7/30/2020 2:43 PM] hon1nbo I even had a process server show up at their office to serve the documents I filed [7/30/2020 2:45 PM] skyspook I reinterate my former statement, that's pretty "evil" :) [7/30/2020 3:02 PM] kenpurcell I can drop ship you some free thumbdrives. Or even a fruit basket with a battery powered pineapple. [7/30/2020 3:05 PM] hon1nbo I actually used the DMS lasers and CerMark to engrave the target's corp logos and slogans on a ton of aluminium USB drives [7/30/2020 3:05 PM] hon1nbo and promptly sent them via post to offices and dropped them around their campuses [7/30/2020 3:07 PM] kenpurcell Look a free thumb drive, wonder what's on it? [7/30/2020 3:07 PM] michaelb5250 At the very least we seem to have some sort of mac address whitelist/802.11x on our wireless network. No phones allowed. [7/30/2020 3:24 PM] ferricyanide7475 So you're the reason we get those emails to not use unauthorized USBs and SUPER don't pick up USBs in the parking lot [7/30/2020 4:00 PM] hon1nbo Apparently I'm the reason for a lot of things [7/30/2020 4:01 PM] hon1nbo only caused two factory fires as a result of a network breach. Stolen a few safes from banks; scrapbook of selfies taken in vaults #consultantlife [7/30/2020 4:03 PM] canibalcrab Jokes on you [7/30/2020 4:03 PM] canibalcrab I don't need a consultant to start fires accidentally [7/30/2020 4:05 PM] hon1nbo but did you start said fire from 900 miles away? [7/30/2020 4:05 PM] canibalcrab Who knows [7/31/2020 1:26 PM] nullinterface > I would love for someone to require us to go through that. The IT guy assigns our passwords, and a former employee figured out the pattern he used to use and spent the day correctly guessing others passwords. I confess that I use the not entirely random **RAND()** function in Excel for temporary passwords - which typically have a lifespan of 30 minutes [7/31/2020 1:28 PM] nullinterface Lotus was bad about unchangable assigned password. they were excruciating to remember, but their static nature was also a problem. [7/31/2020 1:30 PM] themitch22 Does Verizon/frontier still use Lotus Notes? I remember that when I started as a contractor [7/31/2020 1:30 PM] nullinterface VZ mercifully moved to outlook circa ... 2009 ... I think [7/31/2020 1:31 PM] nullinterface and absolutely no one - save for *Lotus Notes "Administrators"* - was sad to see it go [7/31/2020 1:39 PM] themitch22 Sametime will live in infamy [7/31/2020 2:33 PM] andrew5152 OK.. why the hell are these showing up on the main feed, now? They did not previously, as far as I know. and I'm not doing anything differently than I've ever done before that I am aware of... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/738841663149047918/unknown.png?ex=67b8d4eb&is=67b7836b&hm=44fab992f636ff34ad349c5397c7b1ba18e61a13eba29c6fa8569b2f587382d9& [7/31/2020 2:33 PM] skyspook They don't for me [7/31/2020 2:33 PM] skyspook That's pretty odd. [7/31/2020 2:34 PM] andrew5152 really... [7/31/2020 2:34 PM] andrew5152 yeah, since, as you can see, that's a non-logged in browser [7/31/2020 2:34 PM] skyspook What the what? [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] skyspook You're right [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152 huh. the go away if I log in as a test user... [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152 wtf [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152 why would we ever want those to show outside of the category? [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] skyspook I have no idea. And they have a lock icon [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152 and have they always done this but I've never noticed, or is this new... [7/31/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152 Hm. [7/31/2020 2:36 PM] andrew5152 lock is b/c I close the "ticket" after fulfilling [7/31/2020 2:36 PM] skyspook Gotcha [7/31/2020 2:37 PM] skyspook I don't have admin on talk so it'll probably be @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium or @yashsedai that'll need to take a look. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/31/2020 2:38 PM] andrew5152 ditto [7/31/2020 2:38 PM] skyspook How'd you run across that? [7/31/2020 2:38 PM] andrew5152 looks to me like Discourse busted something [7/31/2020 2:39 PM] andrew5152 I see them in my "latest" feed [7/31/2020 2:39 PM] andrew5152 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/738843318548693012/unknown.png?ex=67b8d676&is=67b784f6&hm=50bac416f87bb27b66bd376937aff570db56fb611458f9636bedf3e5f5fc05b5& [7/31/2020 2:39 PM] andrew5152 Thus, presumed EVERYONE does [7/31/2020 2:39 PM] skyspook Wonder why you see it, and an anonymous users sees it, but I wouldn't [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] andrew5152 (well, if I do, and a non-logged in user does, it's not completely illogical to think "everyone" does, right?) [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] hon1nbo they didn't bust it [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] hon1nbo I think it's just a setting issue {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] skyspook Figured, but it's an interesting one ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] hon1nbo most topics are within a Logged-in requirement [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] hon1nbo that's the most common post a non-dms member makes [7/31/2020 2:40 PM] andrew5152 yeah. wonder which what "we" changed that twiddled that... [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo and thus isn't in "the firewall" as the people that made it like to call it [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo we didin't AFAIK [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo I think we've just had enough recent ones compared to posts that are otherwise hidden [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo to actually notice [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] yashsedai doesn't seem to be anything broken [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] yashsedai you just updated quite a few of them [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo anyway I'm on it [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] andrew5152 hm [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] skyspook Not an emergency or anything. Not like they're secret ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/31/2020 2:41 PM] hon1nbo @yashsedai that screenshot is when not logged in [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] yashsedai i understand, but that is a public category [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] andrew5152 never *noticed* it before, and then about...2 months ago, started to seem like they were garnering more attention than usual (which is usually the requestor and nobody else) [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] andrew5152 then yeah, today was a bunch, so it kind of stands out. [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] hon1nbo do we want it to be, or just require one be logged in? [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] andrew5152 anwyay. I'll leave you to it. [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] hon1nbo IDC honestly [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] yashsedai it needs to be public [7/31/2020 2:42 PM] hon1nbo I don't like that we have DMS general non-public, or a lot of our categories [7/31/2020 2:43 PM] yashsedai non-dms group members wouldn't be able to request otherwise... [7/31/2020 2:43 PM] hon1nbo you can still require they be *logged in* at least [7/31/2020 2:43 PM] yashsedai based on what? [7/31/2020 2:43 PM] hon1nbo versus an unauthenticated user [7/31/2020 2:43 PM] andrew5152 > I don't like that we have DMS general non-public, or a lot of our categories you can fix that unilaterally , like it was busted. [7/31/2020 2:43 PM] yashsedai i'll check but i dont there there is such a thing as authenticated [7/31/2020 2:44 PM] hon1nbo you use the "trust level" modes [7/31/2020 2:44 PM] andrew5152 several people said they would...nobody pulled the trigger = still busted [7/31/2020 2:44 PM] andrew5152 OK butting out now. [7/31/2020 2:44 PM] hon1nbo like this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/738844584758738944/logged_in_check.PNG?ex=67b8d7a4&is=67b78624&hm=8eb9fdb1b816720a4372f5e7ee15c8b6923ae779fde0a4302f99a0ee0a76d8c9& [7/31/2020 2:44 PM] andrew5152 thank you guys! [7/31/2020 2:45 PM] hon1nbo done; it's just less pollution on the home page and betters the search engine ranking {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/31/2020 2:46 PM] yashsedai sweet {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [7/31/2020 2:47 PM] skyspook On to the next emergency ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/31/2020 7:06 PM] michaelb5250 Not sure if anyone noticed. I was too late to fix the laser iPad. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/738910561428832316/20200731_190617.jpg?ex=67b91516&is=67b7c396&hm=6762b359b8b3d3f29362d6b48da5a85b34065d8dec79ba01cc5b96b842a2faf3& [7/31/2020 7:07 PM] robert22 Haha [7/31/2020 7:07 PM] robert22 Is it still swelling [7/31/2020 7:08 PM] robert22 Also pretty sure that disabled can be turned off so that does not happen in the future [7/31/2020 7:09 PM] michaelb5250 This one is only a yearish old no swelling yet [7/31/2020 7:24 PM] michaelb5250 This is Blitzen's computer. All the network blinkylights are on, and other computer on the switch can reach the internet. I don't have a local admin account to log in and troubleshoot further. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/738915129583992922/IMG_20200731_192324.jpg?ex=67b91957&is=67b7c7d7&hm=0363ef00aac7e82c5c7064ee6d1ad0408cc1a0432fecd8c01f387eee3f55a85c& [7/31/2020 7:26 PM] skyspook People have been messing with those computers. Did we segment some of the ports off on a vlan? If so, it might not be able to get to the domain [7/31/2020 7:26 PM] hon1nbo you might check it's actually on the switch. Someone else may have tried to use the network mode on blitzen as well [7/31/2020 7:27 PM] skyspook Actually kind of surprised you can't login. Not sure how long logins are cached, but means you haven't logged into that computer in a while ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/31/2020 7:56 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, haven't logged into blitzen in a while. So the laser network goes L3 switch -> normal port -> dumb switch -> {fusion computer, blitzen computer} and fusion can reach the internet while blitzen can't. [7/31/2020 7:57 PM] michaelb5250 I can dig into the switch config later I just assumed since one device on the dumb switch can get to the internet they all should. [7/31/2020 7:59 PM] skyspook That would be the hope ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [8/1/2020 10:13 AM] robert22 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper-zero-tamagochi-for-hackers?ref=eefc0n&utm_source=jellop&ja=z2aimakj&utm_term=021.ja&utm_content=flipper_zero-VD05&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=1596294593777.9zjf {Embed} https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper-zero-tamagochi-for-hackers?ref=eefc0n&utm_source=jellop&ja=z2aimakj&utm_term=021.ja&utm_content=flipper_zero-VD05&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=1596294593777.9zjf Flipper Zero โ€” Tamagochi for Hackers Open source multi-tool device for researching and pentesting radio protocols, access control systems, hardware, and more. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/JUoVFPQR-Lt25amkY8lt_AuzOo3M7UVawkmZPTl7AXg/%3Fixlib%3Drb-2.1.0%26crop%3Dfaces%26w%3D1552%26h%3D873%26fit%3Dcrop%26v%3D1596211983%26auto%3Dformat%26frame%3D1%26q%3D92%26s%3D06ae9805e93c7fccededd617edcd3f0d/https/ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/030/023/640/cc199ebea32361a449fa3f1c6edee0d8_original.jpg [8/1/2020 10:13 AM] robert22 What could go wrong [8/1/2020 11:43 AM] nullinterface there are times that I wonder to what extent that high-skill low-trace break-ins happen (i.e. hacking security systems, picking locks, etc) vs pen testing and other above-board professionals [8/1/2020 11:44 AM] nullinterface i.e. I watch lock picking youtube videos routinely and it did not escape my notice that they're all doing their picking under highly advantageous lab conditions with good lighting and access from angles and without obstruction that you just don't get in the field [8/1/2020 11:58 AM] Deleted User Certain locks are trivial to pick under any condition [8/1/2020 11:58 AM] Deleted User Like master padlocks or desk wafer locks [8/1/2020 12:01 PM] Deleted User Dunno about high security stuff. I don't know how lighting would matter, but it is certainly easier to pick a core than a lock in a door. [8/1/2020 12:01 PM] Deleted User With enough skill/practice though I don't think it would be impractical. [8/1/2020 12:04 PM] Deleted User I don't think I'd count on that for a planned break in though. If anything I'd pick the lock at a security guards house and copy their keys. [8/1/2020 12:05 PM] nullinterface in terms of physical locks, it seems critical to avoid designs that are easily bumped, raked, shimmed, or bypassed [8/1/2020 12:06 PM] Deleted User Mastering systems are another big weakness [8/1/2020 12:07 PM] nullinterface but the thrust of my question is how often are high-skill defeats occurring in the wild by criminals vs professionals engaged in testing? [8/1/2020 12:07 PM] Deleted User Also if you're prepared ahead of time you can drill a lock then rebuild with new hardware behind you [8/1/2020 12:08 PM] Deleted User I don't think most criminals are concerned with hiding their attack [8/1/2020 12:08 PM] Deleted User Maybe espionage but that's probably quite rare [8/1/2020 12:09 PM] Deleted User But I think it's prudent to test more often than you're actually attacked. [8/1/2020 12:09 PM] nullinterface I mean, the Bowley design is impressive, but there are numerous other weaknesses about my property - or any other residence inhabited by mere mortals - to exploit besides attacking the lockset [8/1/2020 12:10 PM] Deleted User Yup. I hear going through the walls is pretty common [8/1/2020 12:10 PM] nullinterface the nature of security is constant vigilance for sure - exposing the gaps and weakpoints so you can address them [8/1/2020 12:12 PM] nullinterface I bought some padlocks a few months ago - went with some cheap-ish laminated locks whose party trick is primarily *using a full set of security pins* [8/1/2020 12:12 PM] Deleted User Surveillance with edge AI is going to be a big game changer soon I bet [8/1/2020 12:13 PM] Deleted User Nothing can stop someone with time to work from hiding [8/1/2020 12:13 PM] nullinterface the real vulnerability for a padlock with an 8mm shackle is the hydraulic bolt cutter [8/1/2020 12:24 PM] ferricyanide7475 I feel like it's every other month im seeing some alert that a big company like target or capital one has had a security breach. [8/1/2020 12:41 PM] michaelb5250 I've always wondered what people with those high security locks do when they loose their keys. I assume you tell the locksmith 'go through the door, it's cheaper than the lock' [8/1/2020 12:49 PM] Deleted User Most of the time it's easiest to go around the door [8/1/2020 12:49 PM] Deleted User Plus if it's institutional, the key codes will all be on file [8/1/2020 3:12 PM] hon1nbo Keycodes are rarely on file [8/1/2020 3:13 PM] hon1nbo Except for the knoxbox codes which you need to do sweet talking to get from the fire department [8/1/2020 3:14 PM] hon1nbo Also your statement on master locks is a hasty generalization. Fun fact masterlock tag out locks are 6 pins, with at least one spool and serrated. Fantastic advanced picker practice [8/1/2020 3:43 PM] Deleted User are you kidding? [8/1/2020 3:43 PM] Deleted User of course the codes are kept on file [8/1/2020 3:44 PM] Deleted User or do you think they take the lock apart every time they need a new key? [8/1/2020 4:12 PM] nullinterface masterlock does not tend to put out a great product, but like pretty much everything you have to assess them on a case-by-case basis [8/1/2020 6:09 PM] hon1nbo @Deleted User who do you think has codes on file or where they are kept? The same doors you are trying to get through, by which point it's meaningless. Even then, if they no longer have any key for a lock they're typically rekeying it regardless [8/1/2020 6:50 PM] Deleted User I'm talking about institutional installations using high security locks, like a large business/government building/college campus. They absolutely keep records of key codes, both for cutting new keys and for managing mastering systems. [8/1/2020 6:50 PM] Deleted User It would be just stupid not to. Hell I have the bitting for my house locks written down, along with spare keys stashed safely off-site. [8/1/2020 6:53 PM] Deleted User And to my original point, it is very rare to have a door you can't get around, and once you have the door open it's usually much easier to open/replace the lock. [8/1/2020 6:54 PM] Deleted User If your locksmith is saying you need to break a door because you lost the key they're either lazy or incompetent [8/1/2020 9:04 PM] hon1nbo Dude, I break into places for a living. Yeah key codes exist *in some* orgs, but to get to them requires getting through all the doors in the first place. Even then, many high security orgs choose *not* to keep individual key codes or simply fail to do so. When keys are lost, they will *not* reissue the same key but would rather rekey the lock because they consider the keycode as compromised [8/1/2020 9:06 PM] hon1nbo They will keep key codes for masters, submasters, and the most commonly issued doors. They often do not for end doors or the most secure areas which are often on separate schemes. Nowz when you get to mega-scale where they don't use keys except for override purposes then yes, they will keep them on file but they typically don't issue keys for them but rather only the master's required for fire purposes [8/1/2020 9:07 PM] hon1nbo Systems such as Abloy are where you see that more since the key scaling can be extraordinary in size, whereas a typical mastering system has much smaller keyspaces. Most large orgs are typically trying to force use of electronic access controls [8/1/2020 9:07 PM] hon1nbo So end doors have far fewer key codes than expected since they aren't typically issuing them [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo @Skyspook I wish I didn't see this: https://gsuite.google.com/products/jamboard/?hl=en {Embed} https://gsuite.google.com/products/jamboard/?hl=en Google Jamboard: Interactive Business Whiteboard | G Suite A collaborative, digital whiteboard makes it easy to create without boundaries and share ideas in real time. Jamboard moves the whiteboard to the cloud. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gDIgtKxiaoxMLPpGq-cPQEuU0zSTxAzrUz4-zN1-LhM/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/Lxmqdpf_nmlUfPSIv17nr5ZKRuodp3c8XkbmCNOjwYIiVGJHABOSfQa3HEKOimFhebg7Exskhn884QNM7_fzyRKNRe62LbYHkT3Y0w [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo do want [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo it allows remote whiteboarding too [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] skyspook lol [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] skyspook I saw that [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo I don't think we can justify it's cost [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] skyspook bit 'spensive [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] skyspook yep [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo so we need someone super persuasive to try and get them to donate it [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo not me though [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] skyspook lol [8/1/2020 11:06 PM] hon1nbo I think they're onto me because of the volume of things I've asked for [8/1/2020 11:10 PM] skyspook Not sure how persuasive I am. ๐Ÿ™‚ [8/2/2020 1:48 AM] Deleted User @honibo get off your high horse and learn to read [8/2/2020 1:48 AM] Deleted User But I'm done being your straw man [8/2/2020 1:49 AM] Deleted User Blocked [8/2/2020 2:40 AM] hon1nbo lawl, someone who actually deals with it for a living bursts a little bubble and it's an immediate block [8/2/2020 2:40 AM] hon1nbo dunning kruger at work folks [8/5/2020 12:10 PM] michaelb5250 Can anyone look at the laser iPad? I don't think I can do much if it needs to be connected to iTunes [8/5/2020 12:10 PM] skyspook Has to be Jim or Freddy I think [8/5/2020 1:50 PM] yashsedai I can have a look later today [8/5/2020 5:05 PM] skyspook I need to create a service account for LDAP lookups for the 3D printers. Do we have an ou we like to put them in or a naming convention? (like prefixing with svc_ or something?) [8/5/2020 5:14 PM] yashsedai yes we do [8/5/2020 5:14 PM] yashsedai svc_ is the prefix [8/5/2020 5:14 PM] yashsedai i'll pm you where they live [8/5/2020 5:14 PM] skyspook thx [8/10/2020 8:27 PM] robert22 Can someone that has access to the discord server check the time [8/10/2020 8:28 PM] robert22 sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org sudo apt-get install ntp If necessary [8/10/2020 8:28 PM] robert22 Trying to get the Google Oauth to work again [8/10/2020 8:29 PM] robert22 https://meta.discourse.org/t/google-login-stopped-working-after-manual-update/111029/2 {Embed} https://meta.discourse.org/t/google-login-stopped-working-after-manual-update/111029/2 Google Login Stopped Working after manual update I was thinking that โ€œinvalid iatโ€ could be something related to machine timezone. But literally nothing changed since our last upgrade. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HGp0leEe1qMtQvOwvqd4JLSE7bXjHWG55s1FkPghp68/https/d11a6trkgmumsb.cloudfront.net/original/3X/1/c/1cc3ad668b66652287717e61e9f7e7532549e7ba.jpeg [8/10/2020 8:34 PM] aceat64 you mean discourse/talk? {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [8/10/2020 8:35 PM] robert22 Your right [8/10/2020 8:35 PM] robert22 Sorry [8/10/2020 8:35 PM] aceat64 I was confused for a second lol [8/10/2020 8:35 PM] robert22 Haha my bad [8/10/2020 8:35 PM] aceat64 I think @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium may have already checked the clock [8/10/2020 8:45 PM] yashsedai i'll have a look later tonite {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/12/2020 2:15 PM] robert22 Does anyone know why members AD accounts get 4 digits added to there name? [8/12/2020 2:16 PM] skyspook Also goes to a description field. I assumed it was a whcs or maker manager ID. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/12/2020 2:17 PM] yashsedai I'll dig into it later today [8/12/2020 2:18 PM] robert22 Been happening for years [8/12/2020 2:18 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/743186718949245028/image0.png?ex=67b8d191&is=67b78011&hm=321c569b7053fe3fbccaaee962786ce909fcf99ff54ae9cba3988b3703ea7740& [8/12/2020 2:18 PM] robert22 Examples [8/12/2020 2:19 PM] michaelb5250 do we really have that many Aarons? [8/12/2020 2:19 PM] robert22 Haha likely nothing is ever deleted I bet we are over 10K users [8/12/2020 2:29 PM] andrew5152 started happening after 2015 (well, in Jan 2015, it was putting what appears to me to be sequential 4 digit numbers in the description field, and sometime after October 2015, this same number appears to have been appended to the username, as well) [8/12/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152 I take it back on being sequential. Maybe it IS random... [8/12/2020 7:30 PM] themitch22 I thought I had admin to install software on the 3d fab pc. Is it with my domain login? [8/12/2020 7:30 PM] skyspook Should be [8/12/2020 7:31 PM] skyspook Unless Jim didn't set the policy correctly [8/12/2020 7:31 PM] skyspook Or they didn't take. I know one of them kept losing its connection to the domain for some reason [8/12/2020 7:43 PM] hon1nbo the lost domain thing is laser and the ethernet cable kept being moved [8/12/2020 7:43 PM] hon1nbo lemme check if your AD is up to date [8/12/2020 7:45 PM] themitch22 Yeah 3dfab-04,03,02 same thing [8/12/2020 7:45 PM] themitch22 Thanks [8/12/2020 7:45 PM] themitch22 I also need to check the mail box to see if the resin arrived [8/12/2020 7:45 PM] hon1nbo @themitch22 would have been nice if you were listed as the 3dfab chair in AD [8/12/2020 7:46 PM] hon1nbo log out and back in [8/12/2020 7:56 PM] skyspook That'd do it [8/12/2020 7:56 PM] skyspook And 3dfab-03 reverted its IP address once, so it was acting weird. Not sure why. [8/12/2020 8:03 PM] themitch22 Hmm still not working [8/12/2020 8:03 PM] hon1nbo what do you mean reverted to its ip address? [8/12/2020 8:03 PM] skyspook Went back to DHCP and was acting like it wasn't on the domain [8/12/2020 8:04 PM] skyspook At the time I figured I just missed it or something and just fixed it [8/12/2020 8:20 PM] hon1nbo huh [8/12/2020 9:05 PM] michaelb5250 3dfab-05 is also having network issues. [8/12/2020 9:19 PM] yashsedai ermagherd stop breaking it [8/12/2020 9:19 PM] skyspook NO U [8/12/2020 9:19 PM] yashsedai NO WaY U [8/13/2020 5:44 PM] themitch22 If someone can check the mailbox and see if the resin arrived. I still wasn't able to install the software on the computers [8/13/2020 6:28 PM] kenpurcell I would skip the latest Chitubox update. Some people are having issues with the build box disappearing. [8/13/2020 6:29 PM] skyspook Also, looks like all the computers are sleeping right now, but I can check them when I'm in tomorrow. [8/13/2020 6:30 PM] skyspook As far as the mailbox goes, not sure who all has keys. I know James does, but meeting up with him tomorrow too. [8/13/2020 8:45 PM] themitch22 1.6.5.1? [8/13/2020 8:45 PM] themitch22 We got the resin and supplies [8/13/2020 8:45 PM] skyspook Oh good [8/13/2020 8:45 PM] themitch22 Talked to Jim already he said its something that has to be edited at the local computer I guess [8/13/2020 8:46 PM] skyspook Probably just need to add you to the local admins (well, the "3d chair" group anyway) [8/13/2020 8:59 PM] yashsedai he's in the 3d fab chair group [8/13/2020 9:00 PM] skyspook Sorry, meant that group probably isn't in the local admins [8/13/2020 9:27 PM] yashsedai ah [8/13/2020 9:28 PM] skyspook I need to take a look at 03 again anyway. dns is still reporting it's the wrong IP. [8/13/2020 9:36 PM] yashsedai anyone at dms? [8/13/2020 10:00 PM] themitch22 I'll be back in a sec [8/13/2020 10:01 PM] andrew5152 GPP does a nice job of adding groups to local admin (nobody has to touch 'em then...) [8/13/2020 10:01 PM] yashsedai Lol that would require more organization {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/13/2020 10:01 PM] yashsedai i've added 3d fab chair to 3 of the 5 [8/13/2020 10:01 PM] yashsedai 2 are off [8/13/2020 10:01 PM] yashsedai i asked beth to turn them on [8/13/2020 10:02 PM] skyspook Let me know if 03 behaves itself. It's suppose to have a static of 53, but somehow it keeps doing something else. [8/13/2020 10:04 PM] yashsedai lol [8/13/2020 10:04 PM] yashsedai bad [8/13/2020 10:04 PM] yashsedai bad computer [8/13/2020 10:06 PM] andrew5152 I still work with a vendor who insists static IPs go bad and occasionally requests "a fresh one" because they can't figure out why their POS equipment won't stay connected... [8/13/2020 10:06 PM] skyspook Probably an ip collision. I seem to recall we were getting angry and just picked some IPs instead of actually reserving them {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [8/13/2020 10:06 PM] andrew5152 (piece of shit, not Point of Sale) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [8/13/2020 10:06 PM] skyspook lol [8/13/2020 10:07 PM] yashsedai 3 and 5 have 3d fabrication chair group now [8/13/2020 10:07 PM] skyspook awesome. [8/13/2020 10:07 PM] skyspook I'm makin' python tonight [8/13/2020 10:07 PM] skyspook Getting google sheet to talk to AD groups. Is fun. [8/13/2020 10:08 PM] andrew5152 like stapling your nuts to a desk is fun? [8/13/2020 10:08 PM] skyspook More like just your earlobe. Not all that horrible {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜† [8/13/2020 10:08 PM] skyspook Though python and I still have issues [8/13/2020 10:08 PM] skyspook Not as bad as PHP and me. [8/13/2020 10:13 PM] themitch22 thanks @yashsedai [8/13/2020 10:13 PM] yashsedai anytime! [8/13/2020 10:13 PM] themitch22 I'll go back and test it by installing chitubox [8/13/2020 10:16 PM] andrew5152 just unraveled another vendor-induced seine of BS where they "just grabbed some IPs" instead of using the assigned ones for their 35 devices. Y'know, because we went to the trouble of assigning them IP addresses because "it doesn't really matter". [8/13/2020 10:17 PM] skyspook They're just numbers. It's okay, right? [8/13/2020 10:18 PM] andrew5152 um. yeah. well. had they just grabbed some, and told me, I could have made that alright, but when we make plans for, well, the whole range, because YOU are NOT the ONLY person working here... ๐Ÿ™„ [8/13/2020 10:18 PM] skyspook Sounds like someone needs their own vlan. {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [8/13/2020 10:18 PM] andrew5152 then 3 weeks later, others are doing as instructed and wondering why stuff doesn't work [8/13/2020 10:18 PM] andrew5152 if I had that power, they would have [8/13/2020 10:20 PM] andrew5152 and if they'd let me issue IQ tests before we let anyone touch anything, I would. [8/13/2020 10:21 PM] skyspook Most of our IT is contracted out... so I feel you. [8/13/2020 10:21 PM] skyspook But, that fact probably saved all of us IT folks that are actually employees. We could just shrink the contract. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [8/14/2020 3:35 PM] skyspook @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium - For the google quiz to AD script, getting to the point I should think about what deployment looks like. How do you want to host and run it? Just need to know for taking in the various variables. [8/14/2020 5:09 PM] yashsedai what does it need to function [8/14/2020 5:09 PM] yashsedai php? [8/14/2020 5:09 PM] yashsedai apache? [8/14/2020 5:11 PM] skyspook Python and a couple supporting libraries. Right now it doesn't take input, so was curious if we wanted it exposed on the web for something, or just schedule it on a server. Could throw it on something like a lambda service too. Lots of options [8/14/2020 5:11 PM] skyspook But how we deploy changes how it looks for secrets and whatnot [8/14/2020 5:13 PM] kentamanos @Skyspook just curious, what does it do? [8/14/2020 5:14 PM] skyspook Takes results from a google quiz and adds anybody who passed to appropriate AD groups [8/14/2020 5:15 PM] hon1nbo A lands function would actually be pretty nice; only super admins can pull those as it is [8/14/2020 5:15 PM] hon1nbo The intention was to run them as a scheduled task. [8/14/2020 5:16 PM] hon1nbo If we wanted self-deployment down the line I was thinking Docker with a limited Rancher interface to the new servera [8/14/2020 5:16 PM] hon1nbo So committee chairs could spin up an exam that went to the right AD group, but wouldn't have access to underlying container [8/14/2020 5:16 PM] hon1nbo But that's a long term stretch goal [8/14/2020 5:17 PM] hon1nbo Since there are other pieces for that which are not ready yet [8/14/2020 5:19 PM] kentamanos @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium is "lands function" autocorrect? {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [8/14/2020 5:22 PM] kentamanos halfway seems like an appropriate phrase, but Google not finding it...hehe: "someone lands here and it just works" [8/14/2020 6:54 PM] hon1nbo ha! yeah autocorrect in all its glory {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/14/2020 7:37 PM] skyspook @yashsedai - At the space. Figured out that if I get an IP6 address on the wifi nothing works. Might be why a few folks have complained [8/14/2020 7:38 PM] yashsedai grrr [8/14/2020 7:38 PM] yashsedai lemme go make sure that bizness is disabled [8/14/2020 7:38 PM] skyspook Disabled it on my adapter so I could actually talk, lol [8/17/2020 2:40 PM] canibalcrab Talk is still on about the time clocks {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/745004164173660351/Screenshot_20200817-143958.jpg?ex=67b8d6b2&is=67b78532&hm=0a3417fc367e986737404491710a2cf50dd8a15fafd9205488f8343f1eb1f173& [8/17/2020 2:40 PM] canibalcrab Although this wasn't an issue after the first time I got it to stop [8/17/2020 2:41 PM] canibalcrab But factory reset on phone brought it back [8/17/2020 3:13 PM] robert22 I donโ€™t think it was ever fixed [8/17/2020 3:29 PM] hon1nbo since it only had been a problem with Google sign ins, and the google signin / signup has had other breaks/issues needing an overhaul when we get a chance, it's been low on my list [8/17/2020 3:47 PM] yashsedai @pearce please try again [8/17/2020 3:47 PM] yashsedai believe i found the issue [8/17/2020 3:47 PM] robert22 Did not work on my side [8/17/2020 3:48 PM] canibalcrab Did not work [8/17/2020 3:49 PM] canibalcrab I don't remember what I did do fix it last timr [8/17/2020 4:07 PM] canibalcrab Okay so don't use the Google button [8/17/2020 4:08 PM] canibalcrab Just put the credentials in like normal and it should work [8/17/2020 4:43 PM] yashsedai alright [8/17/2020 4:43 PM] yashsedai @pearce one more time [8/17/2020 4:43 PM] robert22 Worked for me [8/17/2020 4:43 PM] robert22 What was the issue? [8/17/2020 4:44 PM] canibalcrab That worked [8/17/2020 4:44 PM] canibalcrab Although I did log out and didn't clear anything else [8/17/2020 4:45 PM] yashsedai stupid ass ntp not doing its job [8/17/2020 4:45 PM] yashsedai for w/e reason ubuntu stopped supporting their timeserver or the address changed [8/17/2020 4:45 PM] yashsedai once i changed it to pool.ntp.org it was happy after a reboot [8/17/2020 5:13 PM] andrew5152 > happy after a reboot remember when only Microsoft required this? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฉ [8/17/2020 5:16 PM] robert22 Excellent! [8/17/2020 6:18 PM] robert22 Anyone have any suggestions for an additional hard drive for gaming I got game pass today in preparation for Microsoft flight simulator release tomorrow [8/17/2020 6:18 PM] robert22 And I want to download to much stuff [8/17/2020 6:34 PM] themitch22 Samsung evo 970 I think [8/17/2020 6:37 PM] robert22 I have 2 960 evos already in my m2 slots [8/17/2020 6:40 PM] themitch22 Get a third ๐Ÿ˜† [8/17/2020 6:40 PM] robert22 Haha I donโ€™t think I have a third slot [8/17/2020 6:40 PM] robert22 Would need pci or says [8/17/2020 6:41 PM] robert22 Sata [8/17/2020 6:41 PM] themitch22 Scsi to firewire [8/17/2020 6:42 PM] robert22 Get out of here [8/17/2020 6:42 PM] themitch22 Ok [8/17/2020 6:43 PM] robert22 Is PCI next best [8/17/2020 6:43 PM] robert22 ? [8/17/2020 6:43 PM] michaelb5250 I mean m.2 is pcie [8/17/2020 6:43 PM] skyspook Yep [8/17/2020 6:43 PM] skyspook You can get an m2 riser for a pci-e slot I believe [8/17/2020 6:44 PM] robert22 Ahh ok ๐Ÿ‘Œ [8/17/2020 6:44 PM] robert22 Let me see about that [8/17/2020 6:44 PM] michaelb5250 If you have a decent motherboard you might be able to get a PCI card that allows you to set up <=4 m.2 drives in a 16x PCIe slot. But your milage may vary on support. [8/17/2020 6:44 PM] skyspook That's why it's fast, uses some of the lanes for direct access [8/17/2020 6:49 PM] robert22 https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z170X-Gaming-7-rev-10#ov {Embed} https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z170X-Gaming-7-rev-10 GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global Intelยฎ Thunderboltโ„ข 3 Certified Motherboard Supports 7th / 6th Generation Intelยฎ Coreโ„ข Processors Dual Channel DDR4, 4 DIMMsIntelยฎ USB 3.1 with USB Type-Cโ„ข ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/apiLCk76QQYkkJ4q3IDbqJruEsnBkVmV_BrXoOOwlb4/https/static.gigabyte.com/Product/2/5481/14659_big.png [8/17/2020 6:49 PM] robert22 Hmm this is what I have [8/17/2020 6:50 PM] robert22 Seems I do have 4 slots [8/17/2020 6:50 PM] skyspook They're just little things. My Gigabyte had it underneath the board [8/17/2020 6:50 PM] skyspook Same series, but a bit older [8/17/2020 6:50 PM] robert22 I canโ€™t see them [8/17/2020 6:51 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/745067263669043283/image0.jpg?ex=67b91176&is=67b7bff6&hm=4f68fa621b1d851e2da39f88565114a6aad6032437e2f24aad0ff85e1c05b486& [8/17/2020 6:51 PM] robert22 Also realized my graphics card is hooked into a x8 slot vs a x16 [8/17/2020 6:52 PM] skyspook Ah, that board has two slots of 4x-sized M.2 connectors. So you're full up it appears [8/17/2020 6:53 PM] skyspook I hate the terminology [8/17/2020 6:53 PM] skyspook Gets confusing very quickly [8/17/2020 6:53 PM] robert22 Ahh damn [8/17/2020 6:53 PM] robert22 Still moving pci slots [8/17/2020 6:54 PM] robert22 From x8 to x 16 [8/17/2020 6:55 PM] skyspook For MSFS I'd be tempted to just go sata, and maybe even a standard HD. The cache is there to help not download things all the time, and I don't think it'll affect loading that much with the scenery data. [8/17/2020 6:56 PM] skyspook Speaking of, I should make sure my computer is on tonight to download it off steam [8/17/2020 7:01 PM] michaelb5250 Spinning disk still seems to be the most popular option for game libraries. Hitachi/Seagate seem to be decent but I haven't bought any in a long time. [8/17/2020 7:02 PM] skyspook It's what I have in my machine right now. I'm a middling gamer though, not terribly hard core [8/17/2020 7:02 PM] skyspook Runs my VR stuff and most other games I want though [8/17/2020 7:02 PM] robert22 Also weird it has x4 x8 x16 slots [8/17/2020 7:02 PM] skyspook Just the number of lanes dedicated to the slots. [8/17/2020 7:04 PM] skyspook Could be worse, could be the usb-c nomenclature. [8/17/2020 7:04 PM] skyspook I still have to look that up everytime [8/17/2020 7:05 PM] robert22 I have a 7.5 TB disk [8/17/2020 7:06 PM] robert22 But not SSD [8/17/2020 7:06 PM] robert22 So just use that? [8/17/2020 7:07 PM] skyspook I would, honestly. For the kind of data MSFS is going to be putting down [8/17/2020 7:07 PM] robert22 I need to reformat it itโ€™s currently in ReFS and it says itโ€™s not compatible with Xbox for pc app [8/17/2020 7:08 PM] michaelb5250 What's wrong with USB C, USB 3, USB Super Speed, 3.1, 3.1 Gen 2, DP alternate mode, Thunderbolt 3, USB PD, USB BC? Makes perfect sense to me /s {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [8/17/2020 7:10 PM] robert22 Moving TBโ€™s of data suck [8/17/2020 7:10 PM] robert22 Says it will take 20 hours to move to my NAS [8/18/2020 7:48 AM] nullinterface I remember when *gaming performance* mattered to me. Then I got 10 years out of the previous rig with but three meaningful mid-life upgrades; two of which were actually quite late in its life. [8/18/2020 8:34 AM] kenpurcell I used to have 3 Infrant NAS, one at home, one at my office, and one at a family members house. Used rsync to keep them mirrored. Once Infrant was bought by Netgear it all went to shit. Still have one NAS I need to migrate to modern system. [8/18/2020 8:34 AM] skyspook Freenas (truenas) is rather nice these days [8/18/2020 8:35 AM] robert22 I have had a QNAP for a about 6 years and it's been good [8/18/2020 8:35 AM] robert22 just updated the harddrives occasionally [8/18/2020 8:35 AM] robert22 *update [8/18/2020 8:36 AM] nullinterface I should get a NAS since I'm doing surveillance cameras Real Soon Nowโ„ข [8/18/2020 8:36 AM] kenpurcell FreeNAS is what I want to build but having fun determining real hardware needs. [8/18/2020 8:36 AM] nullinterface not interested in rolling my own [8/18/2020 8:37 AM] michaelb5250 I don't understand how y'all have so much data. I'm nearly a decade into a 1TB cloud storage plan and have just filled up half of it. [8/18/2020 8:37 AM] robert22 I did a Timelapse project at DMS and it's like 2TB in itself [8/18/2020 8:38 AM] robert22 It's a cool video if I have never showed it out [8/18/2020 8:38 AM] robert22 I got about a year of video before someone in Infra Broke it [8/18/2020 8:38 AM] robert22 *Photos [8/18/2020 8:38 AM] kenpurcell Lots of clients work files, modest movie/video library and some pano stuff [8/18/2020 8:38 AM] robert22 My drones 4K also produces big files [8/18/2020 8:39 AM] kenpurcell Only have about 14tb, about half could go to cold storage [8/18/2020 8:41 AM] kenpurcell Do have 100+ MiniDV tapes I would like to scan and keep only the good stuff. [8/18/2020 8:45 AM] robert22 I am thinking though RAID 1 is no longer need and I just buy a big HD and rely on cloud backups [8/18/2020 8:48 AM] kenpurcell Been toying with that too [8/18/2020 8:48 AM] skyspook Raid Z2 is nice. I still run mirrored, but that's cause I'm risk averse. [8/18/2020 8:53 AM] kenpurcell Only reason I went down the NAS/Raid path was to have big enough folders to hold massive project resource files. One was a massive multilayer Flash interface combining videos, huge backgrounds and compiled Flash projectors. Really hated that project. [8/18/2020 9:33 AM] canibalcrab .STL files get big after a while. And .gcode but that gets wiped frequently. I guess my answer is that I have a LOT of shitposting saved and ready to drop. That's where my data goes [8/18/2020 9:35 AM] yashsedai lol [8/18/2020 9:35 AM] yashsedai thats an insane amount of shitposting [8/18/2020 9:36 AM] canibalcrab Am a busy man [8/18/2020 9:37 AM] canibalcrab Also games are insane sizes these days. AAA titles can be anywhere from 40-200 gigs [8/20/2020 3:13 PM] kenpurcell Ooooopsssiessss https://status.lisd.net/ {Embed} https://status.lisd.net/ Lewisville ISD Technology Status Lewisville ISD Technology's status page provides information on the current status and incident history of Lewisville ISD Technology. [8/20/2020 3:14 PM] skyspook Whoops [8/20/2020 3:14 PM] skyspook Not it [8/20/2020 3:15 PM] kenpurcell Mr. IT Professional, your fired! As soon as you teach the new guy the tribal knowledge. [8/20/2020 9:13 PM] themitch22 I have someone from another makerspace asking about what monitored alarm we use [8/20/2020 9:13 PM] themitch22 I mean we use the Carrollton police quite a bit [8/20/2020 9:13 PM] robert22 There is only a fire alarm [8/20/2020 9:14 PM] robert22 That is the only monitored alarm [8/20/2020 9:24 PM] canibalcrab 24/7 access is the alarm [8/20/2020 10:12 PM] themitch22 Yeah thats what I told him [8/21/2020 8:17 AM] andrew5152 @Lampy (Ken Purcell) I just noticed on the main website the pop-up covid message is kind of hard to read colourwise... Might just be me, though {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/746357278210523207/unknown.jpeg?ex=67b925a1&is=67b7d421&hm=ab2510a5f6a965c3bfb08029f9511b6e3210686232f7b6b00b5303441d3bb0ff& [8/21/2020 8:17 AM] andrew5152 On mobile. Looks fine on desktop browser. [8/21/2020 8:28 AM] kenpurcell Just set the color to black but it not doing it?! Will see if there is a cache somewhere. It also needs the version of PHP updated. I know that update to WP 5.5 broke shit yesterday, grrrr! [8/21/2020 8:34 AM] andrew5152 But of course. [8/21/2020 8:34 AM] andrew5152 I have no doubt you'll find the fix [8/21/2020 8:35 AM] skyspook It's weird. Looks bad on my phone, but not if I emulate a phone from the browser. Didn't see anything obvious. [8/21/2020 8:35 AM] skyspook Looks like the font weight went sideways, like it's too thin [8/21/2020 8:39 AM] canibalcrab Just need to feed it a few bytes {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿง€ ๐Ÿ” (3) [8/24/2020 12:52 PM] ericmsilver Anyone can share with me the external url we can use to connect to the personal profile area using RDP. files.dallasmakerspace.org? [8/24/2020 1:00 PM] themitch22 physical.dallasmakerspace.org [8/24/2020 1:01 PM] ericmsilver do i log in as dms\username [8/24/2020 1:01 PM] skyspook yep [8/24/2020 1:03 PM] ericmsilver wow! Loads of apps? Are we all licensed to use them? [8/24/2020 1:04 PM] canibalcrab As long as you are on the jump server yes [8/24/2020 1:05 PM] ericmsilver i was hoping to install the kissplicer locally at my home so I can familiarise myself with it in advance. Is there a way to get the config files so I have same settings. [8/24/2020 1:05 PM] skyspook Yep, just download it from the polyprinter site [8/24/2020 1:06 PM] skyspook http://www.polyprinter.com/downloads/ {Embed} http://www.polyprinter.com/downloads/ Downloads polyprinter@kinetric.com [8/24/2020 1:06 PM] ericmsilver from the IP Number. I don't remember the full ips? [8/24/2020 1:06 PM] skyspook Oh, you want to take a look at the printers? They're on 192.168.200.90-6 [8/24/2020 1:07 PM] skyspook But don't mess with them too much from home, especially if someone is printing [8/24/2020 1:07 PM] ericmsilver dont intend to [8/24/2020 1:07 PM] ericmsilver btw if I see a login windows like on .90 does it means octoprint now working? [8/24/2020 1:08 PM] ericmsilver {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/747517599004491876/unknown.png?ex=67b969c3&is=67b81843&hm=5ee020240eb19cef86e79d836a33d3951a4fb3caef0828ff363d874c94777b16& [8/24/2020 1:08 PM] skyspook Yep, you can log into that with your dms username and password. Though, btw, you shouldn't need to log into the printer to get the settings. The download from polyprinter has all the settings for the printers. [8/24/2020 1:09 PM] ericmsilver it works!!!!!! Thank you [8/24/2020 1:11 PM] canibalcrab Octoprint is not the slicer settings, and Justin is correct, if you want the DMS settings for kisslicer, just download the install pack from Polyprinter. It's already set up [8/24/2020 1:12 PM] ericmsilver will do that thank you. BTW do we have something like a log of what we found on the printers this weekend. I know some if learning curve on my part but not all printers worked [8/24/2020 1:13 PM] canibalcrab People will post issues to talk [8/24/2020 1:13 PM] canibalcrab Or ignore them [8/24/2020 1:13 PM] canibalcrab So, no, no log really [8/24/2020 1:14 PM] skyspook Yea, the only thing I heard of was the login on 90 not working properly. Logs didn't show anything and I think all we did was reset the octoprint service [8/26/2020 6:20 PM] hardsuit So do I need to beg Infrastructure for one of the PCs for the streaming cart? [8/26/2020 6:21 PM] hardsuit Getting ready to design/built the actual cart so wanna know size of the OC case if possible [8/26/2020 8:56 PM] hon1nbo board; infra doesn't have budget to buy things like that in general [9/9/2020 7:53 PM] doug.emes NetworkChuck recent video giving folks a walk through on 3cx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyFidVcoLM [ive used 3cx, netsapiens, enswitch, rincentral] I believe our last effort was @yashsedai setting up a cloud based 3cx. {Embed} NetworkChuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyFidVcoLM the Raspberry Pi PHONE SYSTEM! (3CX PBX at home) Thanks to 3CX, we can setup a CRAZY awesome phone system on a Raspberry Pi 4. Get 3CX for free here: http://bit.ly/3cx_free *Sponsored by 3CX BUY a Raspberry Pi: https://geni.us/aBeqAL In this video, we install the 3CX Phone System (IP PBX) on a Raspberry Pi 4 using one com... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SCVQFHP0Ns5l8clyhCHNmOIVfxyNOn2Ry8K_ZS9_Oz8/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/8QyFidVcoLM/maxresdefault.jpg [9/9/2020 8:14 PM] yashsedai 3cx is up and running and has no issues ๐Ÿ˜‰ [9/10/2020 11:38 AM] kenpurcell If only people left better messages! [9/10/2020 3:56 PM] andrew5152 @Lampy (Ken Purcell) I presume this is a work in progress, and you're aware that it looks like this at the moment? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/753720463905259640/unknown.png?ex=67b8e862&is=67b796e2&hm=a07433ec69e64197f45464b6a71ffffaf52a3ad564f3bd1b427bfc98d744d434& [9/10/2020 4:13 PM] themitch22 I like Lorem Ipsum {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [9/10/2020 4:13 PM] themitch22 We should populate that box with the latest comment from talk and see how that goes. [9/10/2020 4:53 PM] kenpurcell f'ng word press reverted the text. [9/10/2020 4:56 PM] kenpurcell thanks that is reupdated {Reactions} โค๏ธ [9/17/2020 10:40 AM] michaelb5250 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/756177675927945266/Screenshot_20200917-103951.png?ex=67b94717&is=67b7f597&hm=20a7ad21c7387876dfd1bd42e9e2daf77a1d0df9527fcb51a5b23a836cafc46c& [9/17/2020 10:40 AM] skyspook @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium @yashsedai [9/17/2020 10:41 AM] yashsedai am aware ๐Ÿ˜› [9/17/2020 10:41 AM] skyspook Gracias [9/17/2020 10:41 AM] yashsedai working on the forums [9/17/2020 10:41 AM] skyspook But where will we spout uninformed opinions now? [9/17/2020 10:41 AM] yashsedai in your own mind [9/17/2020 10:42 AM] yashsedai ๐Ÿ˜› [9/17/2020 10:59 AM] yashsedai its back up [9/17/2020 11:02 AM] kenpurcell damn [9/17/2020 11:05 AM] hon1nbo well kinda back up [9/17/2020 11:05 AM] hon1nbo still building caches or something I guess [9/17/2020 4:20 PM] nullinterface https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/free-blocks-of-ipv4-addresses-for-ham-licensees/75025 I mean, a /24 is cool, but I thought IPv4 was in danger of running out of addresses and stuff since the IPv6 migration is seemingly moving at a geologic pace {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/free-blocks-of-ipv4-addresses-for-ham-licensees/75025 Free Blocks of IPv4 Addresses for HAM Licensees So I just learned about this a couple months back, and I should get my allocation of IP address sometime โ€œsoonโ€ AMPRnet will provide you (a HAM Licensee) with a block size of your choosing to use for personal and/or HAM related experimentation. https://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Mai... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [9/17/2020 5:14 PM] hon1nbo a whole /8 has been reserved for amateur radio operations world-wide for ages [9/17/2020 5:14 PM] hon1nbo it's considered a research, emergency services, and civil services allocation [9/17/2020 5:15 PM] hon1nbo you can't use it for just anything; primarily it provides addresses for communications routing, VoIP, C2 systems, etc [9/17/2020 5:15 PM] hon1nbo is /8 too much? probably, though it's hard to tell how to break up the allocation cleanly [9/17/2020 6:46 PM] nullinterface I knew about the /8. Are they allocating from within that old class A? [9/17/2020 6:56 PM] hon1nbo yeah all the allocations come from that reserved block [9/17/2020 6:56 PM] hon1nbo it's allocated by a non-profit group that manages it [9/22/2020 9:18 PM] skyspook Anybody else get an invitation to Evan's confluence setup. I appreciate the initiative, but our plan was onprem, ya? [9/22/2020 9:20 PM] andrew5152 yes, and my minimal understanding @ this point is that the plan was for on prem... [9/22/2020 9:21 PM] skyspook Not sure what he's up to. Confluence cloud gets decently pricy. [9/22/2020 9:21 PM] andrew5152 maybe he's just test driving? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [9/22/2020 9:22 PM] skyspook Dunno. Just making sure I didn't miss the memo :) [9/22/2020 9:22 PM] andrew5152 uh. if you did, so did I. [9/22/2020 9:22 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [9/22/2020 9:53 PM] hon1nbo @Skyspook it's on the trello task [9/22/2020 9:53 PM] hon1nbo so basically he's looking to set something up to put at least infra information into [9/22/2020 9:54 PM] hon1nbo it's free for 10 users [9/22/2020 9:54 PM] hon1nbo so just for infrastructure we can roll the ball [9/22/2020 9:54 PM] hon1nbo whether or not that data easily migrates to on-prem for the final deployment that's space wide is a different story [9/22/2020 9:54 PM] hon1nbo but as infra we have a place to put things for now [9/22/2020 9:54 PM] skyspook Thanks @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium ! [9/22/2020 9:55 PM] skyspook Missed the trello task. [9/26/2020 11:22 AM] skyspook Now that I've wasted a night recreating a windows boot partition... does anybody have access to the moodle EC2 (PRLXLMS1) to add my public key? Console access no worky. Or is this one of those lost causes and we should just recreate it? [9/26/2020 11:52 AM] andrew5152 I'd hit up Alex Rhodes, as I think he did the install years ago, but someone else might have access... [9/26/2020 11:55 AM] skyspook Think the creation key was labeled "brooks". I mean, I could also detach the storage and spin up a new ec2 instance to take it over... But that might be overkill :) [9/26/2020 11:56 AM] andrew5152 Yeah. Here is where it was 2 years ago... https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/moodle-wrapper/39667/2 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/moodle-wrapper/39667/2 Moodle "wrapper"? The following are listed as current admins. If there is a specific request I can help. Edit:. I have removed Brooks as he is no longer a member. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CelgxAAdZU1uUndbbZQEydzPahyt5fRkT4eOWnxwgvU/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/3/2322a0b1964bfde58fe56c38d8e9ca3905e9a9fd.png [9/26/2020 11:56 AM] andrew5152 And that might be necessary... Or maybe just start over...hmm... [9/26/2020 12:04 PM] doug.emes Please start over. I'll commit to publishing scorm or xAPI if folks will actually give me the content in ppt format etc [9/26/2020 12:04 PM] skyspook We'll just need to recreate the 3d fab course. It probably needed to be updated anyway [9/26/2020 12:08 PM] doug.emes Yeah I've talked to mitch and asked him for documents and I'll do the covert in articulate [9/26/2020 5:41 PM] themitch22 I don't think I have documents for the 3d printer basics class [9/26/2020 5:41 PM] themitch22 I can try adding them. [9/26/2020 5:54 PM] skyspook I would do an export of all the content, but my admin user doesn't have admin access. If I could get into the machine and/or database, I could reset or hack a user in. It's a fun time. [9/26/2020 5:55 PM] skyspook Might just make a new one off a docker image. Use S3 and RDS, and have it autoscale. Might be cheaper than an EC2 anyway. Somehow I've gone this long in my career without having to actually set these things up myself. Guess there's a time for everything. [9/26/2020 6:27 PM] doug.emes I'm taking half days off all fridays in october. I'll commit to converting for 2 hrs each week, but I'd really not prefer having to go mine the info to publish myself. [9/26/2020 6:37 PM] andrew5152 @doug.emes forgive my nooB questions... what is your platform of choice for SCORM/xAPI (and do I assume correctly xAPI is your preference, given it's the newer standard)? I have the impression Moodle CAN do either, but doesn't do either very well, nor without 3rd party plugins, e.g. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/759559273981935706/unknown.png?ex=67b90e32&is=67b7bcb2&hm=499245d19a9c74cb0541515c193cef3cef464e6e188cf5b2dceabb4cd4526401& [9/26/2020 6:45 PM] doug.emes We have SAP litmos at work, and doccebo, and another one I actually use but it sucks [9/26/2020 6:45 PM] doug.emes The good news is I can author just pure html5 output if we only care about a end google quiz [9/26/2020 6:47 PM] doug.emes What I'd love to see the dms do, is out out some high quality articulate courses, and use that as leverage to Adobe to ask them for captivate [9/26/2020 6:48 PM] doug.emes ThEN we can make 3d training material [9/26/2020 6:48 PM] doug.emes Oh and congrats on the new position sir [9/26/2020 6:49 PM] andrew5152 Thank you.... I think... ๐Ÿ˜„ [9/26/2020 6:50 PM] andrew5152 correct me if I'm wrong, but... none of these are "free", SAP, guessing, $$$$, Docebo is cloud only, so $$$... [9/26/2020 6:50 PM] andrew5152 that means we'd need to do some exploration and figuring to try and bring those in...hence, the Moodle. [9/26/2020 7:08 PM] doug.emes Yeah I'm all for us trying the latest moodle, not an upgrade [9/26/2020 7:08 PM] doug.emes The cloud providers dont scale right for us because its user/month [9/26/2020 7:08 PM] skyspook Yep, I briefly looked at moodle's cloud offering [9/26/2020 7:09 PM] skyspook Didn't make sense for us [9/26/2020 7:11 PM] doug.emes In a away, we COULD PUBLISH to a hybrid wiki front end [9/26/2020 7:11 PM] doug.emes But again, I'd rather see a year 2021 solution I stead of patching the existing wiki [9/26/2020 9:09 PM] skyspook Do we care about what key creates an EC2 instance? I didn't any on thy, but looks like the new ones were created with an infra_master_20190522 key. [9/26/2020 9:14 PM] andrew5152 I do not yet have that information. Need to defer to Jim and Freddy to find out what we've been doing [9/26/2020 9:25 PM] skyspook I figured as much. Looking at the rest, looks like it's been a "whatever" in the past. :) [9/26/2020 9:25 PM] canibalcrab @aceat64 might know some of the install stuff but its been a while [9/26/2020 9:31 PM] yashsedai I have the keys [9/26/2020 9:31 PM] yashsedai and the brooks key wouldnt help you haha [9/26/2020 9:33 PM] skyspook Lol [9/26/2020 9:33 PM] aceat64 I think all the servers are setup with a central key management these days, so you just need whatever magic freddy/jim install on it and it should be good to go [9/26/2020 9:35 PM] skyspook Yea, just don't want to run afoul. Freddy apparently is doing something with my public key. [9/27/2020 10:04 AM] hon1nbo Yeah central key management doesn't currently exist. One person setup one system, another person setup something different, and a chunk of members ignored both and documenting so effectively we had something worse than no central management [9/27/2020 10:17 AM] yashsedai uh [9/27/2020 10:18 AM] yashsedai we do have a program that manages keys [9/27/2020 10:36 AM] yashsedai userify... [9/27/2020 5:41 PM] hon1nbo That's actually used on everything? Because this is now the 4th system in two years and the first I'd be hearing actually in use by everything [9/27/2020 5:45 PM] yashsedai Its being used on all the aws systems yes... [9/27/2020 6:26 PM] skyspook Looks like it can be used on anything linux. [9/27/2020 6:27 PM] skyspook FYI, I was able to export the 3D printer class. The admin pages are toast, and there's some weird things going on in the DB. I've taken backups and I'm about to start over unless there are objections [9/27/2020 6:32 PM] andrew5152 1 question I meant to ask earlier: will this preserve the existing instance? reason I ask is: I know quite a few people put a fair bit of work into the structure on that, and I don't want them to think we don't value what they did; we do. And if we can draw from it, we will. And part of that is keeping it around "just in case". I don't know how tenable that is, or what the expectation is... I would LOVE it if we could hang on to that until the other is off to the races, then recycle those resources... [9/27/2020 6:32 PM] andrew5152 I would think the backups should suffice... [9/27/2020 6:41 PM] skyspook Hmm, well right now I just have the one instance I got access to. So if I wipe it, while I'll have a backup it'll be offline. I should be able to get a new one spun up in a few hours. However, I could try an upgrade and see if it fixes the issues we have now. [9/27/2020 6:41 PM] skyspook Wouldn't be a bad experiment to run the upgrade and see what happens. Can't make it worse, really. [9/27/2020 6:48 PM] andrew5152 Your call. I think upgrading will likely be wasting time, given my impression of the current state... As long as we can restore if the new installation balks, I say go for it... [9/27/2020 6:54 PM] skyspook Yep, pretty easy restore. But I'm hoping we won't need it. Here we go [9/27/2020 7:00 PM] yashsedai why not take a snapshot? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/27/2020 7:00 PM] yashsedai quick and easy [9/27/2020 7:02 PM] skyspook Is there a way to grab a snapshot of just one database on dms-master? Or is it the whole thing? [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] yashsedai let me take a dump real quick [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] yashsedai that will be good enough [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] skyspook I grabbed a dump [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] yashsedai ok [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] yashsedai then nvm on that [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] skyspook ๐Ÿ™‚ [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] yashsedai i mean snap for the vm [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] skyspook About to do that, good idea [9/27/2020 7:03 PM] skyspook I always forget I can do that [9/27/2020 7:45 PM] andrew5152 yes. should have said "can we snapshot". Snapshots ROCK! [9/27/2020 7:48 PM] andrew5152 BTW... am I mistaken that we're screwing Mitch and 3d Fab over until we get their class back online? Has someone shared with him? Should that have been me? [9/27/2020 9:46 PM] doug.emes TYPO on the down page, referencing https://talk.dallasmakserspace.org/ [9/27/2020 9:47 PM] doug.emes that's on he server "learn" [9/27/2020 9:50 PM] yashsedai wtf [9/27/2020 9:52 PM] yashsedai @doug.emes what down page? [9/27/2020 9:53 PM] skyspook Oh [9/27/2020 9:53 PM] skyspook Sorry ๐Ÿ™‚ [9/27/2020 9:53 PM] skyspook I made a down page [9/27/2020 9:53 PM] skyspook And @A. Spencer(jast) - I should be able to upload his class here soon {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [9/27/2020 9:55 PM] skyspook I just can't type well, apparently [9/27/2020 9:55 PM] skyspook Made sure it showed up, but didn't make sure the link actually worked [9/27/2020 9:55 PM] andrew5152 Lol. Had to click it to find the typo [9/27/2020 9:56 PM] andrew5152 Old eyes and small screens [9/27/2020 9:57 PM] doug.emes https://360.articulate.com/review/content/98216855-b47e-41a6-a862-5ca225af6b6b/review thats an example of a rise style course authored in articulate, sitting on a public facing review page {Embed} https://360.articulate.com/review/content/98216855-b47e-41a6-a862-5ca225af6b6b/review Gather and Share Stakeholder Feedback on E-Learning Courses - Revie... Collect consolidated feedback from stakeholders on interactive training courses built with Storylineย 360 and Riseย 360. [9/27/2020 9:58 PM] doug.emes and heres an example of storyline based file, https://360.articulate.com/review/content/1b0ab9ca-5b72-4a64-bad7-8fce73480dee/review {Embed} https://360.articulate.com/review/content/1b0ab9ca-5b72-4a64-bad7-8fce73480dee/review Gather and Share Stakeholder Feedback on E-Learning Courses - Revie... Collect consolidated feedback from stakeholders on interactive training courses built with Storylineย 360 and Riseย 360. [9/28/2020 12:03 AM] skyspook New moodle is up. 3D printer course could be re-imported. [9/28/2020 12:04 AM] skyspook I'll mess with making it pretty and getting some other things squared away this week. But we're back to where we were, but with an actually functional site {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/28/2020 12:05 AM] andrew5152 OUTSTANDING! [9/28/2020 12:05 AM] andrew5152 Thank you! [9/28/2020 12:06 AM] andrew5152 Logged in. Perused course. Looks good... [9/28/2020 12:06 AM] skyspook yay, means I didn't screw up the AD mapping ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/28/2020 12:10 AM] skyspook Now it's past my bedtime. If anybody else notices something let me know. I can also add people to the admins list as we log in. Unfortunately, can't map that. But the admin account is tied to the infrastructure email now. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/28/2020 12:14 AM] andrew5152 If my skim is accurate, we have a couple of lost images/videos. That seems easily fixable. Overall, looks good so far! [9/28/2020 12:27 AM] doug.emes https://learn.dallasmakerspace.org/course/view.php?id=2 crashes out on me when I try to pull it up. [9/28/2020 12:38 AM] doug.emes bedtime [9/28/2020 5:56 PM] skyspook Anybody else having fun with the Azure AD outage this evening? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [9/28/2020 6:18 PM] yashsedai lol i've fielded a few questions from family who use o365 [9/28/2020 6:31 PM] skyspook If this goes on much longer I'm going to have fun switching applications from azure SSO to ldap tonight. [9/28/2020 6:33 PM] robert22 Better night than UHS [9/28/2020 6:49 PM] skyspook Oof, just saw that story [9/28/2020 6:49 PM] skyspook Definitely a better night [9/29/2020 2:11 PM] skyspook "Snapshots are love" [9/29/2020 2:26 PM] hon1nbo they are [9/29/2020 2:26 PM] hon1nbo I've found higher retention for people reading things when there are little quips like that [9/29/2020 2:49 PM] nullinterface the easter egg has value [10/1/2020 10:47 PM] skyspook ``` +----+--------+----------+------------+--------------+-------+------------------+ | id | userid | courseid | timestamp | username | added | comments | +----+--------+----------+------------+--------------+-------+------------------+ | 3 | 4 | 2 | 1601610002 | adm_skyspook | true | NULL | | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1601610302 | skyspook | false | Already in group | +----+--------+----------+------------+--------------+-------+------------------+ ``` [10/1/2020 10:47 PM] skyspook Guess what moodle can do now? [10/1/2020 10:50 PM] themitch22 Make ascii art? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [10/1/2020 10:50 PM] skyspook I mean, maybe [10/1/2020 10:50 PM] themitch22 Awesome! Thanks [10/1/2020 10:51 PM] skyspook Doing a few more tests, but looks like 3D printer course will add people to the AD group now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) ๐ŸŽ† ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [10/1/2020 10:52 PM] skyspook I need to write up a page on confluence, but essentially there is a custom field in the course you put the AD group, and then svc_moodle just needs to be added to either the group managing the AD Group, or to the management itself (just needs rights to add people). [10/1/2020 10:53 PM] skyspook And we can report on it from the table addad_completion. [10/1/2020 10:53 PM] skyspook Which is then your ascii art ๐Ÿ˜‰ [10/1/2020 10:55 PM] skyspook @michaelb - wanna do laser next? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10/2/2020 10:54 AM] hon1nbo best place to put the service user is in the teaching group for whatever committees want it [10/2/2020 11:06 AM] skyspook Yep, that's what I did for 3d printing {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [10/6/2020 10:07 PM] michaelb5250 Does anyone have a second to look at why I can't add people to the automotive lift group, even though I'm a member of the lift trainers group? I don't see an obvious answer [10/6/2020 10:08 PM] skyspook Sure, just a sec {Reactions} dms [10/6/2020 10:11 PM] skyspook No reason that I can see [10/6/2020 10:12 PM] skyspook Try again? I just re-applied the management setting. Maybe something was just weird [10/6/2020 10:12 PM] skyspook At worst, I can add them for you until we figure it out [10/6/2020 10:13 PM] michaelb5250 That worked. Thanks!....? [10/6/2020 10:13 PM] skyspook \o/ [10/6/2020 10:14 PM] skyspook I'm gonna guess something got weird since you're chair -> trainer -> liftgroup [10/6/2020 10:14 PM] skyspook Too much chain [10/6/2020 10:14 PM] michaelb5250 Could be. Plus there's the windows factor [10/6/2020 10:15 PM] skyspook When in doubt... ๐Ÿ™‚ [10/7/2020 2:14 PM] hardsuit Do we have extra/spare Windows keys, or do I need to buy one with the Streaming Cart computer hardware? [10/7/2020 2:42 PM] doug.emes If we dont have spare, and it's not a dell etc, we can get one off the company store. We know 2 many microsoft employees to pay retail [10/7/2020 2:42 PM] skyspook I'd have to check what our license is for, but I'm fairly sure we can cover that [10/7/2020 2:55 PM] hardsuit Ok, cool. Budget in the agenda item would cover a license, but good to know not needed at full retail if at all [10/7/2020 3:03 PM] hon1nbo should be a volume license for the space. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [10/7/2020 3:04 PM] hon1nbo no idea what the allocation capacity was at. @Skyspook IIRC the MS volume licensing info is in that thing you have access to [10/7/2020 3:05 PM] skyspook Yep, saw it there. I'll figure out how to get to the capacity, but I figured we had a license to give for the cart [10/7/2020 3:05 PM] hardsuit ๐Ÿ‘ [10/15/2020 7:46 PM] hardsuit Ok, got computer moved to the cart. Need to arrange a meeting to install/set up the software on it to everyone's needs/requirements [10/17/2020 5:57 AM] andrew5152 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/jumpserver-ssh-connection-issues/75831 I'm a bit ashamed to admit it's been QUITE some time since I made use of the ssh portal... Are we maintaining that? [10/17/2020 12:36 PM] hon1nbo we were [10/17/2020 12:36 PM] hon1nbo I opened a trello ticket when I found it was non-functional [10/17/2020 12:36 PM] hon1nbo I don't know what happened with it, was not at the top of my list before I ducked out [10/17/2020 12:40 PM] skyspook I was able to log in for a second, then it kicked me and won't let me back in. Haven't had time to mess with it. [10/17/2020 1:17 PM] andrew5152 ditto [10/17/2020 1:17 PM] andrew5152 Thank you! [10/17/2020 1:28 PM] michaelb5250 Hey I got a report that the automotive lift is down, the rfid box flashes green instead of going solid. Anyone know what that means? @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium [10/17/2020 1:29 PM] hon1nbo Flashing yellow means it is still processing can be a minute when sluggish [10/17/2020 1:29 PM] hon1nbo On the rare time it fails a reboot solves it (throw disconnect for 30 seconds, throw back and wait a few minutes) [10/17/2020 1:30 PM] hon1nbo But usually constantly flashing yellow isn't a failure of the unit but if MakerManager isn't available to check the permissions. @Skyspook can look at that [10/17/2020 1:30 PM] michaelb5250 User reported flashing green, not yellow, but I'll have them restart it as a first step. [10/17/2020 1:39 PM] michaelb5250 Alright, the restart had no affect, but I think they might have trouble distinguishing the green/yellow so I'm not sure on that. Do we have a bypass key that I can access? [10/17/2020 2:09 PM] skyspook It had issues with its network connection (from the logs). Looks like Kenneth got scanned in though. [10/17/2020 2:27 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah someone managed to make it work and another person wasn't. I'm on my way up so I'll try it out and see. [10/17/2020 3:03 PM] michaelb5250 Seems to work for 2/3 of the people here. Chuck has issues but he's got a new badge so that could be the problem. [10/17/2020 3:23 PM] skyspook Whoever you tried when you were badging in couldn't be found on lookup [10/17/2020 3:23 PM] skyspook Of course, the code just crashes when that happens, cause why not [10/17/2020 3:25 PM] hon1nbo it shouldn't crash [10/17/2020 3:25 PM] skyspook Well, more just exception [10/17/2020 3:25 PM] hon1nbo if it's crashing we have a problem. We tested with unassigned badges [10/17/2020 3:25 PM] hon1nbo it should recover semi-gracefully [10/17/2020 3:26 PM] skyspook Process doesn't crash, it just throws an exception ungracefully. Me just critiquing the code ๐Ÿ™‚ [10/17/2020 3:26 PM] hon1nbo also @michaelb override key is in the keybox and the DnO have one [10/17/2020 3:26 PM] hon1nbo hey I didn't write it ๐Ÿ˜› [10/17/2020 3:27 PM] skyspook lol [10/17/2020 3:27 PM] hon1nbo the exception should be thrown but the code should continue to run as-is [10/17/2020 3:27 PM] skyspook Its just not handling the fact a user doesn't come back ๐Ÿ™‚ [10/17/2020 3:27 PM] skyspook Well... "handles" it by dumping exceptions [10/17/2020 3:27 PM] skyspook But yea, I think it's just the api it's calling can't find the rfid badge and tie it to a user [10/17/2020 3:35 PM] michaelb5250 Alright. That was chuck with a new badge most likely. Is there like a nightly sync that happens or something? [10/17/2020 3:37 PM] skyspook I think it has a cache somewhere. [10/17/2020 3:37 PM] skyspook Not wure how long it is. Maybe an hour? [10/17/2020 4:13 PM] hon1nbo you can choose to reconfigure the rfid interlock to use AD instead of MakerManager and it will keep a local cache [10/17/2020 4:13 PM] hon1nbo but if it's a cache miss it goes to a web service running adjacent to the DC [10/17/2020 4:13 PM] skyspook Badge numbers aren't in AD, are they? Just in MM? [10/17/2020 4:14 PM] hon1nbo they're there as a separate object [10/17/2020 4:44 PM] yashsedai Badge numbers are in ADin the user object in the field employee number [10/18/2020 7:18 PM] nullinterface I need to re-run the data cabling for my ONT on short-ish notice. Gamble on >1Gb/s becoming reasonably available within the next ~2 years and cough up for cat6a or just accept cat6? [10/18/2020 7:21 PM] nullinterface Or just do it quick and dirty with my existing stock of cat5e and live within the limits of short-reach GigE [10/18/2020 9:28 PM] nullinterface The latter is looking more appealing since the new run will be reasonably accessible, I'm hardly pushing the limits of the pre-existing Cat5e, nor does >GigE seem to be a mandate anytime soon. [10/18/2020 9:28 PM] skyspook With that criteria, it's what I'd do [10/18/2020 9:29 PM] nullinterface Whenever I start to wire drops to bedrooms and TVs I'll go nuts with the stuff that's good for 10GigE [10/18/2020 9:30 PM] nullinterface As a fella that's some 6'5" and hardly skinny I do not relish time spent in the attic [10/18/2020 9:30 PM] skyspook That's when I'd spend the money too ๐Ÿ™‚ [10/19/2020 12:30 AM] doug.emes The issue with wiring is determining if a wall will meet our long term desirability for location of a landing. 20 years ago 2 cat5 to a wall plate seemed extravagant. Do you do 2 cat6 per cardinal wall? If my attic access was better, I'd argue conduit to each wall, but leave it empty, capped Bove the insulation. I ran cat5 to each h bedroom here 15 years ago, and I dont use ANY of it. [10/19/2020 7:54 AM] nullinterface the immediate need is cameras + removing the outside wire-wrap for the ONT data port [10/19/2020 9:24 AM] kenpurcell @ESmith I got some Cat 6a direct bury cable at Altex, didn't want to buy 500-1,000 foot roll. Think it was $0.30/foot vs. $0.27/foot for Cat 6. Needed to make runs to my office (dinning room) and kitchen computer (Wifey's). Did not want to get in the attic due to the many elevation changes in my attic. Needed to run 10Gb network to my NAS and homes server. WiFi was not cutting it with 3 people on zoom/meet/goto meeting all day. WiFi was dropping off my IoT devices when all three of us were on calls, so moved the calls to wired. Now everything works. [10/19/2020 9:26 AM] nullinterface my theory on networking is 'if it's stationary, it should have an ethernet cable' [10/19/2020 9:27 AM] nullinterface I'm not as consistent as I'd like to be, but getting there [10/19/2020 9:28 AM] nullinterface not much interested in the cloud-~~dependent~~*connected* wifi-only security cameras that have a loop to some AWS instance welded into them for local viewing [10/19/2020 9:38 AM] kenpurcell Agreed. I'm looking to replace my ring cameras and other "smart" devices with local only processing options. I have setup a proxmox server to run various open source VMs on. [10/19/2020 9:39 AM] nullinterface Might do actual wifi APs someday rather than leaning on the router in the office since wireless is just a fact of life [10/19/2020 9:39 AM] nullinterface some of those cable runs are going to be interesting, however [10/19/2020 9:40 AM] nullinterface going to need to cut at least one access panel to drill through the floor before this is all done [10/19/2020 9:42 AM] kenpurcell Yea I felt stupid going outside my house and around it instead of via the attic. But weirdly where I needed the drops was on outside walls and due to midwall firestops and/or cathedral ceilings I could not have reached them via the attic anyway. [10/19/2020 9:43 AM] nullinterface I've got some work being done on the house this week so I've got a deadline to decomm the exterior wire wrap [10/19/2020 9:50 AM] nullinterface I've lucked out and haven't encountered midwall firestops in my domicile [10/19/2020 10:28 AM] kenpurcell I have one of those long drill bits on a stick but walls are too tall and it is a bitch to use. Probably 20-30% success rate of getting the wire to it's destination. At least when I attempted the whole house 15+ years ago. [10/19/2020 12:20 PM] nullinterface I'm thinking that I need to go for *minimum viable product* on this first run - open up the wall enough to drill down, pull the cable through so it reaches both the router and ONT,terminate both ends of the cable with an RJ-45 connector, just staple it in place until I get around to cleaning up *Laterโ„ข* [10/19/2020 12:21 PM] skyspook Just do yourself a favor and pull twine or something else to re-pull another cable later... just in case. [10/19/2020 12:28 PM] nullinterface the main challenge will be opening up a wall in the closet, drilling down through the subfloor, then snaking cables through the airspace between the subfloor and sheetrock in the garage [10/19/2020 12:28 PM] nullinterface and yeah, a pullstring that remains in place will be a lifesaver [10/19/2020 12:30 PM] nullinterface I can locate the general exit along the X-axis, but the Y-axis is subject to some fogginess [10/19/2020 12:30 PM] nullinterface if I can find something that's long and rigid enough to poke a pinhole in the sheetrock I think I'll be golden [10/19/2020 12:35 PM] nullinterface Or I could try to YOLO it with my ~24" drillbit [10/19/2020 12:37 PM] nullinterface worse thing that happens I cause some hilarious chain reaction failure with the poorly-installed floros on the ceiling [10/19/2020 12:37 PM] nullinterface well, they also could have used Truss Joist McMillian engineered joists and I drill through the webbing on a joist. but the house was 1992 so that doesn't seem likely... [10/19/2020 12:38 PM] skyspook My one YOLO with a drillbit into a wall ended with an electrical fire.... [10/19/2020 12:38 PM] skyspook I don't do that anymore [10/19/2020 12:38 PM] skyspook lol [10/19/2020 12:38 PM] nullinterface GE breakers? [10/19/2020 12:38 PM] skyspook I think they were. They were also 50 year old breakers. [10/19/2020 12:39 PM] nullinterface former co-worker was an electrician in a prior career and watched *the insulation melt off the wires* while the GE breakers held fast [10/19/2020 12:39 PM] skyspook This was back in Cleveland, where the average house was 75 years old, and still had a mix of romex and knob/tube [10/19/2020 12:39 PM] nullinterface ah knob/tube - the stuff of nightmares [10/19/2020 12:39 PM] skyspook It's perfectly fine stuff, as long as you don't touch it. Or need it to do anything much. [10/19/2020 12:39 PM] skyspook My whole house was just 100 amp service [10/19/2020 12:40 PM] nullinterface never ever never maintain it or go into any space where it's present [10/19/2020 12:40 PM] nullinterface I need to talk to an electrician about some changes to my panel. Suspect they'll end up being too costly however. [10/19/2020 12:40 PM] nullinterface builder had the genius idea of putting all upstairs bedrooms on one 15A breaker. need that segmented up. also would like to slot in a 200A main breaker. and the next ride may well be an EV so a 240A outlet in the garage would be nice. [10/19/2020 12:43 PM] nullinterface 200A main likely means a new panel altogether. No idea how many thousands splitting up the bedrooms will be. Also not sure I've got the amps on the panel for another dryer outlet. [10/19/2020 1:05 PM] kenpurcell He said Knob and Tube. He he. [10/19/2020 1:07 PM] kenpurcell I left pull strings all over my house. Really wish I installed some conduit as well. My attic shapes are a nightmare! [10/19/2020 3:30 PM] nullinterface occurred to me that I could cheat on the whole "poking a blind hole" thing by gambling with an access panel in the garage ceiling [10/19/2020 3:35 PM] skyspook I'd roll some dice for you, but the bot is busted ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‹ [10/20/2020 10:44 AM] nullinterface drilling the hole has proven to be the simple part - the far side penetration is now the challenge [10/20/2020 10:45 AM] nullinterface airspace between the garage and the office seems to be insulated after all [10/20/2020 10:45 AM] nullinterface trusses seem deeper than they should be [10/20/2020 10:45 AM] nullinterface ~18" drill bit didn't meet the sheetrock at the other side. admittedly, I had to drill a second hole at a slant. [10/20/2020 10:50 AM] nullinterface as usual I need an unusual tool - something ~24" long, thin, and rigid enough to poke a hole in the sheetrock [10/20/2020 10:57 AM] canibalcrab Rebar and a hammer [10/20/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface I might have some rebar [10/20/2020 10:57 AM] canibalcrab Could cut a point on one end and hammer it [10/20/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface just hoping the sheetrock doesn't explode [10/20/2020 10:57 AM] canibalcrab Yeah [10/20/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface got no means to grind rebar at home though [10/20/2020 10:58 AM] canibalcrab If you know the end point you could score it first to try and mitigate damage [10/20/2020 10:58 AM] nullinterface the endpoint is unfortunately ambiguous since I couldn't drill straight down [10/20/2020 10:59 AM] nullinterface I could probably locate the X dimension with some precision by the Y dimension is ambiguous for reasons of the slant drilling and the different offset for the Y wall of the office relative to the X walls [10/20/2020 10:59 AM] nullinterface if I'm really unlucky I've come up under one of the floro fixtures :/ [10/20/2020 11:02 AM] kenpurcell Yep gotta watch the electricals. I was starting to drill into a stud and luckily my home is new enough to have those protection plates. No wonder the stud finder had such a strong signal there. [10/20/2020 11:02 AM] nullinterface home despot might have some ~1/4" round stock [10/20/2020 11:03 AM] kenpurcell I have a pointy copper grounding rod if you want to borrow it. [10/20/2020 11:04 AM] nullinterface first hole bottomed out at some ~5" so who knows what I hit - hopefully I didn't chew up a bunch of webbing on an engineered truss [10/20/2020 11:28 AM] nullinterface cheap enough https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-8-in-x-48-in-Plain-Steel-Cold-Rolled-Round-Rod-801567/204273942 {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-8-in-x-48-in-Plain-Steel-Cold-Rolled-Round-Rod-801567/204273942 Everbilt 1/8 in. x 48 in. Plain Steel Cold Rolled Round Rod-801567 ... The Crown Bolt Plain Steel 1/8 in. x 48 in. Cold Rolled Round Rod is commonly used as plant stakes, tent pegs or axles. It is made of plain steel for general applications. It is a non threaded, durable https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q4zySV9Bdc620-Eztl7anotCOLQH1NTOMVYLX3kXoIw/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/6b738bf9-f238-46e7-a0ff-e2999d41ae3e/svn/everbilt-metal-rods-801567-64_1000.jpg [10/20/2020 11:28 AM] nullinterface 1/4" Probablyโ„ข won't explode the sheetrock too badly [10/20/2020 11:29 AM] nullinterface or go with Al - I can file that down far easier https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-4-in-x-36-in-Aluminum-Round-Rod-801647/204273994 {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-4-in-x-36-in-Aluminum-Round-Rod-801647/204273994 Everbilt 1/4 in. x 36 in. Aluminum Round Rod-801647 - The Home Depot Crown Bolt - 1/4 in. x 36 in. Round Aluminum Rod - For general applications. Commonly used as plant stakes, tent pegs or axles. Available in various sizes and materials. - THD SKU# 477052 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_iEPfnW2ubgOD7-waby_TdVwm6Bavg9W6vc-wS6P3kI/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/5171e6c1-971a-4d8e-a891-dc3ddc8b79ff/svn/everbilt-metal-rods-801647-64_1000.jpg [10/20/2020 11:30 AM] robert22 @ESmith I have used the 5 foot long drill bits in the past [10/20/2020 11:33 AM] yashsedai May I suggest the actual proper tool? [10/20/2020 11:33 AM] yashsedai https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-3-4-in-x-72-in-Flex-Auger-Bit-53751/203872163 {Embed} https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-3-4-in-x-72-in-Flex-Auger-Bit-53751/203872163 Klein Tools 3/4 in. x 72 in. Flex Auger Bit-53751 - The Home Depot https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-Qz1IA6y5rWjoL1Pli9rHvA4skNBtmh9hn2FRpU5zPU/https/images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/7cbc9ce7-3276-4e09-8b6c-0a6e6a788743/svn/klein-tools-auger-bits-53751-64_1000.jpg [10/20/2020 11:34 AM] nullinterface I barely have room to fit into that workspace [10/20/2020 11:34 AM] robert22 Thatโ€™s the one [10/20/2020 11:35 AM] nullinterface the hole through the toe plate and subfloor is done [10/20/2020 11:35 AM] robert22 O ok [10/20/2020 11:56 AM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/768155655864320000/IMG_20201020_115547749.jpg?ex=67b958f4&is=67b80774&hm=1ead8f7d48a9d2ba6f8e89480f684c2e1d847c648443ea557c739c541def44cf& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/768155657215672320/IMG_20201020_115557603.jpg?ex=67b958f4&is=67b80774&hm=3a9d50705cc668c08822780ead195c9cd5d74fe4a3b246490317b2d0a5971fae& [10/20/2020 1:54 PM] skyspook Winner? [10/20/2020 2:48 PM] kenpurcell They make some really nice wall panels/doors if you need to get back in there. [10/20/2020 4:16 PM] nullinterface it'll be a win when I can penetrate the sheetrock in the garage. and I'll be slipping some sort of access panel over that opening since I'll def be needing repeat access. [10/20/2020 7:19 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/768267296284082226/IMG_20201020_190244329.jpg?ex=67b9182d&is=67b7c6ad&hm=6fb5ee0728b3c5d35978187a0dd9ca53f781cfe4c542e9aa7522521f8dda2992& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/768267297231470592/IMG_20201020_191035192.jpg?ex=67b9182d&is=67b7c6ad&hm=91497c24eec143bec6de4b942a63f9da54feeddad2ea88a3c4906c2cb02555d0& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/768267298070724628/IMG_20201020_191906623.jpg?ex=67b9182d&is=67b7c6ad&hm=8955028d2711b3db65915abd2b2620187bee54f38dc13797c15cff26ddfdf127& [10/20/2020 7:20 PM] nullinterface ยผ" round stock for the win [10/20/2020 8:19 PM] skyspook https://tenor.com/view/fantasy-football-win-gif-7374480 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/fantasy-football-win-gif-7374480 fantasy football https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/g0IsdQE3HFnULFDGwniAvXT195Xd1annbAWmtCXkaFs/https/media.tenor.co/images/5528ae1cfe36384b0392452f5529d73f/tenor.png [10/20/2020 8:54 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/768291125445263390/IMG_20201020_203841152.jpg?ex=67b92e5e&is=67b7dcde&hm=9645c0b62d88c1fadbe286a0082998169ea8220e2abb0569df809bdca0fc125c& [10/20/2020 8:54 PM] nullinterface *something something* pretty *something something* works {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ช [10/20/2020 8:55 PM] nullinterface speed tests OK [10/20/2020 8:55 PM] nullinterface think I can call this done until I start on cameras [10/23/2020 3:31 PM] anutterbutter Eh, fire alarm, system trouble is beeping? [10/23/2020 3:31 PM] anutterbutter {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/769296975308521502/PXL_20201023_202915437.jpg?ex=67b8e2a3&is=67b79123&hm=f5678d9c111febe891a2b7cc34ded544ef426078411f57be166cf389110142a4& [10/23/2020 4:06 PM] canibalcrab It's a known issue that's being worked on [10/23/2020 5:57 PM] anutterbutter Cool. [10/23/2020 6:44 PM] canibalcrab Thanks for reporting tho [11/3/2020 8:05 AM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/773186131952664576/123270485_4740247252683890_6187854014311251128_o.png?ex=67b930f2&is=67b7df72&hm=318a1e6629b8a34a71ea4952b1b4ceeb99c03cc2466f4f16a1e883cab6d11d0f& [11/3/2020 8:08 AM] yashsedai right! [11/3/2020 8:28 AM] kenpurcell Damn, don't even have to lift the bike with all that coily extra cable. [11/16/2020 10:14 AM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/777929496614928394/fHtdp9N.png?ex=67b94f0d&is=67b7fd8d&hm=37a4b7122e47c5638f2d505d461ecf77c377f7caec91c8bd1d67f7795108948b& [11/24/2020 12:41 PM] michaelb5250 Would it be possible to enable remote access to the laser computers for the desktop-administrators group? [11/24/2020 12:42 PM] skyspook Not a bad idea. Should probably enable it for the domain admins too ๐Ÿ™‚ [11/24/2020 12:43 PM] skyspook I really want to get a GPO setup with that stuff, but I can at least add that next time I'm in. [11/24/2020 12:44 PM] michaelb5250 Nah, those pesky domain people don't need access to computer ๐Ÿ˜› [11/24/2020 12:44 PM] skyspook You and I should figure out what's up with lightburn too. [11/24/2020 12:44 PM] michaelb5250 Just thinking it would've avoided all the lightburn nonsense on talk. [11/24/2020 12:44 PM] skyspook Not sure what's up with the licenses [11/24/2020 12:44 PM] skyspook It may have. Who knows ๐Ÿ™‚ [11/24/2020 12:45 PM] michaelb5250 The stumbling block is it all has to go through art since the licenses keep getting moved back to his account for renewal. [11/24/2020 12:45 PM] skyspook Can we... not? [11/24/2020 12:45 PM] michaelb5250 They moved them all to mine a while back and I only have the one that hasn't been renewed. The others went back to his. [11/24/2020 12:46 PM] michaelb5250 I was just going to ask him to set up a laser account that we can share, figured that was the easiest way [11/24/2020 12:46 PM] skyspook Yep, that's what should be done [11/24/2020 12:46 PM] skyspook Either that or the infra email address. A laser one makes the most sense I think [11/24/2020 12:46 PM] michaelb5250 Once we've got that, it's a really slick portal that'll tell you where licenses are and let you move them around and such. [11/24/2020 12:47 PM] skyspook Awesome [11/24/2020 12:47 PM] michaelb5250 I haven't sent the message yet so up to y'all on the email. [11/24/2020 12:49 PM] skyspook Just want to use your laser chair email? [11/24/2020 12:50 PM] michaelb5250 Yeah, that sounds like a plan [11/24/2020 1:15 PM] yashsedai we have a gpo [11/24/2020 1:15 PM] yashsedai its not working, im troubleshooting it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [11/24/2020 4:42 PM] skyspook @yashsedai - you doing something with the admin@dallasmakerspace.org microsoft account? [11/24/2020 4:43 PM] yashsedai yes yes i am [11/24/2020 4:43 PM] yashsedai it wasn't behaving [11/24/2020 4:43 PM] yashsedai so i kicked it in the ass [11/24/2020 4:43 PM] skyspook Just making sure. Saw a flurry of access codes, just making sure I don't need to worry about it ๐Ÿ™‚ [11/24/2020 4:43 PM] yashsedai new password is the manager [11/24/2020 4:43 PM] skyspook Awesome, thanks [11/24/2020 4:56 PM] kenpurcell ACCESS DENIED! Oh it's you, OK. [12/4/2020 9:45 PM] michaelb5250 If anyone has time it'd be great to remove both old versions of Lightburn on the jump server, install the latest one from the website and I can give you a license key to put in. They're good with us using one standard license for the whole server. [12/4/2020 9:45 PM] skyspook I can take care of that if you want [12/4/2020 9:47 PM] michaelb5250 Great! I'll send it over later tonight. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12/6/2020 5:36 PM] engpin1964 Is the network down at the space? [12/6/2020 5:37 PM] engpin1964 I have tried guest and member and I get [12/6/2020 5:37 PM] engpin1964 On both {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/785288850120769576/image0.jpg?ex=67b90e3b&is=67b7bcbb&hm=d0c25e06bb8d4506a4485bb220fea8b71e7d1cc3a32b11f9edcafa3cccd8c52c& [12/6/2020 5:52 PM] skyspook internet is up, access points are responding (or at least as much as they usually do) [12/6/2020 7:35 PM] pondit How do I replace my keyfob if lost? [12/6/2020 7:42 PM] robert22 https://accounts.dallasmakerspace.org/makermanager/users/login [12/6/2020 7:42 PM] robert22 Go here [12/6/2020 7:43 PM] robert22 and it allows self service to replace your badge [12/6/2020 7:43 PM] robert22 you will need to go to the building to get a replacement fob {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12/6/2020 8:37 PM] andrew5152 Kind of like a lost credit card, please disable a lost fob IMMEDIATELY then go get one... and go to that site again to put in ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/12/2020 8:18 PM] michaelacks6 Looks like the camera in laser has an issue [12/12/2020 8:19 PM] michaelacks6 Not loading on the camera page [12/12/2020 8:19 PM] michaelacks6 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/787503990056288276/image0.png?ex=67b9343e&is=67b7e2be&hm=600684367476553b135e15fca1a7b95b426242e10768388d35566d587f74c872& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12/12/2020 10:19 PM] yashsedai shame [12/20/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 https://accounts.dallasmakerspace.org/makermanager/ [12/20/2020 8:12 PM] robert22 Maker manager looks pretty messed up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [12/20/2020 8:13 PM] andrew5152 it does trying to make sure nobody's "helping" with it before doing anything drastic... [12/20/2020 8:13 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/790401654389211136/image0.png?ex=67b932e7&is=67b7e167&hm=893b85b60533d5331ce01179e91bd174855f741235f0644ef81b93a39ebb5f73& [12/20/2020 8:14 PM] canibalcrab its just having a bad hair day [12/20/2020 9:59 PM] yashsedai debug didnt work... [12/21/2020 8:24 AM] skyspook Looks like we got it fixed? [12/21/2020 10:08 AM] andrew5152 freddy un-debug-moded it [12/21/2020 1:14 PM] yashsedai >.< [12/28/2020 2:19 PM] michaelb5250 Anyone know of a way to pull the number of current members who have laser training? I assume the ad groups have former members mixed in. [12/28/2020 2:21 PM] skyspook Former members should be deactivated. I can pull active accounts in laser in just a bit if you need [12/28/2020 3:02 PM] michaelb5250 Just purely for curiosity, nothing important. I was wondering what percentage of members were trained on laser or 3D fab. Someone had the data about year ago and laser was near 50% [12/28/2020 5:15 PM] skyspook Of active accounts in the Members group (which will be off by a few, but close enough) -- Laser has a 44.2% certification rate, 3D fab has 27.6% [12/28/2020 5:19 PM] themitch22 I need to up those numbers [12/28/2020 5:19 PM] themitch22 Theres an online class how is it that low [12/28/2020 5:20 PM] canibalcrab they dont want to self teach [12/28/2020 5:20 PM] canibalcrab they want to ignore a teacher in person and then break the machine later when they are "trained" [12/28/2020 5:30 PM] skyspook And there are a number of folks that were never added by teachers. [12/28/2020 5:31 PM] michaelb5250 That's... Only slightly more cynical than the impression I've gotten. [12/29/2020 2:22 PM] anutterbutter Lol, so you're saying instead of "live and learn", it would be more accurate to say " live and become more jaded and cynical"? [12/29/2020 2:24 PM] anutterbutter Hoping for improvement in 2021. [12/29/2020 2:26 PM] anutterbutter Eat your black eyed peas people. [12/29/2020 2:35 PM] canibalcrab yes [1/4/2021 6:20 PM] apparently_weird {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/795808957909696562/image0.png?ex=67b91858&is=67b7c6d8&hm=b050372bca177c91b745af484cfbe24208acacd06048bfec61b97510891870bc& [1/4/2021 6:21 PM] apparently_weird Not sure if Talk is down for everyone or just happening to me. [1/4/2021 6:21 PM] yashsedai i'm working on it currently [1/4/2021 6:22 PM] apparently_weird Thank you. [1/4/2021 6:37 PM] yashsedai its back online [1/4/2021 6:43 PM] apparently_weird Thanks. Appreciate it. [1/5/2021 11:51 AM] kenpurcell shake that tree! [1/5/2021 2:55 PM] skyspook Kay... now what? [1/6/2021 10:38 AM] kenpurcell Someone wants to donate Cat5 cables: ```Hi Iโ€™m a technology professional and a hobby maker and I have a surplus of cat5 ethernet cables. They are all brand new and unused and I would like to donate them to yโ€™all is that something you would be interested in?``` Do we really? [1/6/2021 10:40 AM] andrew5152 Iiiiiiiiiiii'm thinking "No, thank you".... [1/6/2021 10:41 AM] andrew5152 techincally CAT 5 is good up to Gig, right? but... I'd guess this is old, since it was supplanted by CAT 5e ca 2000, and now with CAT 6 being the going concern... [1/6/2021 10:41 AM] andrew5152 also, I have the impression we have plenty of cable lying around [1/6/2021 10:41 AM] skyspook I'm of that mind -- we're trying to run 5e and 6 mostly, and I'd rather have a roll of stuff we make to order than random lengths of unknown origin. {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [1/6/2021 10:42 AM] skyspook But if someone really wants them, go for it ๐Ÿ™‚ [1/6/2021 10:43 AM] andrew5152 does jewelry want it for the copper wire? [1/6/2021 10:43 AM] andrew5152 (guessing no) [1/6/2021 12:12 PM] yashsedai no [1/6/2021 12:12 PM] yashsedai please no [1/6/2021 12:57 PM] skyspook What, don't want to play the "which cord works" game? [1/6/2021 1:01 PM] kenpurcell told him thanks but no thanks [1/6/2021 1:04 PM] yashsedai i need used cat5 cables like a new hole in the head [1/6/2021 1:05 PM] yashsedai unless someone wants to buy us a DTX [1/6/2021 1:06 PM] yashsedai i miss my dtx-1800 [1/6/2021 1:55 PM] kenpurcell ๐Ÿ•ณ๏ธ ๐Ÿคฏ [1/7/2021 8:06 PM] nullinterface vertical 19" racks any good or do they tend to be a bad plan for hardware? [1/11/2021 1:59 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/798280001879146546/image0.png?ex=67b8db2f&is=67b789af&hm=72337857e4d53788475edff270c13c8147c3745bed58cb6fae63b416376f39e7& [1/11/2021 2:01 PM] yashsedai mmm lovely [1/11/2021 2:07 PM] hon1nbo I don't have any notice, and nothing shows up in my feed [1/11/2021 2:08 PM] hon1nbo including my threat intel feeds [1/11/2021 2:08 PM] hon1nbo is it a legit email? [1/11/2021 2:08 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/798282291247841290/image0.png?ex=67b8dd51&is=67b78bd1&hm=829a1153075c89ec5f2bb321a9d5daf3d2627d4923789146e4b02f0218318b17& [1/11/2021 2:08 PM] skyspook Wonder if it was only certain accounts [1/11/2021 2:13 PM] robert22 Honestly did not spend any time looking at it [1/11/2021 2:13 PM] hon1nbo could only be certain accounts [1/11/2021 2:14 PM] hon1nbo @Robert to validate the email would require looking at the headers [1/11/2021 2:16 PM] robert22 Headers are not accessible on an iPhone to my knowledge and I took a photo of them from my laptop but the image is too big for discord [1/11/2021 2:17 PM] robert22 If UBNT.com is there legit site it looks legit [1/11/2021 2:17 PM] robert22 If they donโ€™t own that domain itโ€™s not legit [1/11/2021 2:20 PM] hon1nbo so the headers are the only way to prove that's the domain it was actually sent from [1/11/2021 2:20 PM] hon1nbo they own that domain, but I don't think it's one they'd generally send emails from [1/11/2021 2:20 PM] hon1nbo I've seen similar emails that try to scare someone into handing over their creds as part of a password rotation [1/11/2021 2:24 PM] aceat64 my mom just forwarded the same email {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [1/11/2021 2:25 PM] aceat64 https://community.ui.com/questions/Account-Notification/96467115-49b5-4dd6-9517-f8cdbf6906f3 [1/11/2021 2:25 PM] aceat64 it's legit [1/11/2021 4:49 PM] hon1nbo yeah I got the notice a little later; I was more surprised it didnt' show up in my feed [1/23/2021 3:35 PM] engpin1964 Anyone else havin mg network problems? [1/23/2021 3:36 PM] engpin1964 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/802652987263680583/image0.jpg?ex=67b8f1d8&is=67b7a058&hm=a3c7e3339faa18ada945b99b0d87a9a38062e710c30beadb91af38b4ac52d038& [1/23/2021 3:54 PM] yashsedai where are you located? [1/23/2021 6:23 PM] engpin1964 Small conference room [1/23/2021 6:23 PM] engpin1964 New lobby [1/24/2021 12:02 PM] mrcity Let's talk calendar fixes... I've got several ideas: * Cancellations need to open up new available spaces * Alphabetize the attendance list * Class owner can allow for adjustments in class size after the class is submitted * Class owner can kick people out of the class before class time * Class owner can pick another DMS member to be the host of the Calendar event (currently the system to track instructors is separate from the list of members, so people who have made events themselves aren't necessarily eligible to select as the instructor) * Some way to solve the free vs. paid spaces thing However, I'm having a lot of trouble building the Docker containers. Since PHP support in HHVM was dropped about 2 years ago, I've had to change the base Docker image for the Calendar app to be `FROM hhvm/hhvm-proxygen:3.30.3` rather than `latest`. Then I had to run `hhvm /opt/composer/composer.phar update` prior to `hhvm /opt/composer/composer.phar install` lest it complain to me about my PHP version being too old for some of the dependencies. Now that everything seems to be installed OK, whenever I `curl localhost` it gives me `404 Not Found`. I found ways to redirect the server to point to `/var/www/webroot` but now it just gives me an empty page, and I'm assuming there's some PHP error buried in an error file somewhere I can't find. Would it be reasonable to just build it off the latest PHP image from Docker Hub, and ditch HHVM? Or does anyone have suggestions as to how I can salvage my existing container to continue doing development on it? (We can take this to Talk if need be) [1/29/2021 11:05 AM] hardsuit What the process for adding in a new computer to the network? Setting up a donated system in Printmaking, but have to install Windows, etc [1/29/2021 11:05 AM] hardsuit Do we want DMS windows keys used, how to set up administration, etc. [1/29/2021 11:06 AM] hardsuit Also have a printer that will be dedicated to printing from just that computer for making transparencies for screen printing stencils [1/29/2021 11:08 AM] skyspook Yea, we'll need to reload it with our windows licenses to keep things legal and get it added to the domain. Should check with @A. Spencer(jast) to see if there's anything else we'd need to do, since the donation needs to be logged, etc. [1/29/2021 11:24 AM] hardsuit Ok, there's no drive in it currently at all, I need to bring in the SSD I had pulled to format and do a base Windows install on. How should we proceed? [1/29/2021 11:25 AM] hardsuit Athlon 6100 cpu, 8 GB RAM, will be a 250Gb SDD [1/29/2021 11:37 AM] andrew5152 Currently tied up... remind me this evening if I haven't gotten back to you [1/29/2021 11:37 AM] hon1nbo don't install windows [1/29/2021 11:37 AM] hon1nbo infrastructure has a clean image to use that has all the bloat removed, even the OEM bloat [1/29/2021 11:38 AM] hon1nbo @yashsedai did an amazing job sysprepping that thing [1/29/2021 11:38 AM] hon1nbo once imaged device drivers can be refreshed for specific hardware [1/29/2021 11:59 AM] hardsuit Excellent, I thought there might be something like that [1/29/2021 11:59 AM] hardsuit Ok, I'll get the reformatted empty drive in the system on Saturday [1/29/2021 1:42 PM] doug.emes @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium id love the sysprep image, to then apply licenses on my other pcs to see the removal of skype etc on the ones I have at E/// in our training facility that I maintain [1/31/2021 2:19 PM] hardsuit Ok, SSD is in the computer.Image/install away at your leisure [1/31/2021 2:58 PM] andrew5152 wherezabout is the unit located? [1/31/2021 2:58 PM] hardsuit @A. Spencer(jast) Computer good to go as your free. It's set up in Printmaking under the TV {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [2/5/2021 1:20 PM] hardsuit Any ETA on the Windows install? [2/5/2021 1:21 PM] hardsuit Also, requesting that I have Admin on that machine so I can maintain the software and fonts for Printmaking [2/5/2021 1:27 PM] andrew5152 We'll be in Saturday; hoping it might be part of our work. [2/5/2021 1:30 PM] hardsuit Ok, thanks! [2/6/2021 2:03 PM] andrew5152 @Hardsuit we attempted this today, but did not have the right boot media to get it done. I'll try with different media again soon (might be as early as tomorrow, but probably later in the week). Has this hardware been "donated", as in, accepted by the chair, paperwork turned in, etc. ? We just need to have those eyes dotted and tees crossed before applying the DMS license to Windows, which couldn't happen today anyway, so... [2/6/2021 2:04 PM] hardsuit Accepted by chair and committee yes, but does need it documented in the meeting notrs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/6/2021 2:07 PM] hardsuit There is mention of it in the meeting notes for past couple of months, tho dunno why it sez it's a Dell... [2/7/2021 1:20 PM] michaelb5250 Could someone add a 'lift down Monday @ 9am' notice to the cameras page? Due to the electrical work tomorrow. [2/7/2021 1:42 PM] skyspook There ya go [2/7/2021 2:48 PM] hon1nbo @michaelb Should probably take it out tonight [2/7/2021 2:49 PM] hon1nbo There's a habit of starting work that will run over in auto. When we did the cylinder rebuild last year sure enough someone was there to drop a transmission the night before and we know how that goes [2/15/2021 1:41 PM] hardsuit Aaack [2/15/2021 1:41 PM] hardsuit Forgot I needed to tell/ask you guys to buy the software for the cart [2/15/2021 1:41 PM] hardsuit 2x copies of thus bundle [2/15/2021 1:42 PM] hardsuit https://www.humblebundle.com/software/design-expression-powerhouse-software?hmb_source=humble_home&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_3_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_2_c_designexpressionpowerhouse_softwarebundle {Embed} https://www.humblebundle.com/software/design-expression-powerhouse-software?hmb_source=humble_home&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_3_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_2_c_designexpressionpowerhouse_softwarebundle Humble Software Bundle: Design Expression Powerhouse Unleash your creative side with our newest bundle. Get software like Corel Painterยฎ 2020 & MultiCam Capture XL. Plus, pay what you want & support charity! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1f5oUko5KU7EIPSgPv-7yz86nGRY_Rg-vw0gN-1HjgM/%3Fauto%3Dcompress%2Cformat%26h%3D630%26w%3D1200%26s%3D27a6c54e460503879612da617d98a8ad/https/hb.imgix.net/8571314ea5f691c9d41bf0cb06e06eaf77b0936f.png [2/15/2021 1:42 PM] hardsuit Just the $11.33 level, don't need Painter [2/15/2021 1:42 PM] hardsuit Authorized at the last BoD meeting [2/15/2021 1:47 PM] hardsuit Offer expires in 3 days [2/15/2021 1:55 PM] skyspook @A. Spencer(jast) - we wanted you to coordinate so that you can track the licenses (please and thank you) :) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/15/2021 3:00 PM] andrew5152 Probably going to sit on this kind of thing til I have task internet access for more than 10 minutes to check it out... Is this coming out of Lisa's budget, or...? Not that the amount is all that big, but just dotting i's... [2/15/2021 3:00 PM] andrew5152 Crap, just saw offer expires in 3 days [2/15/2021 3:00 PM] andrew5152 Will try to get on it next power uppage [2/15/2021 3:27 PM] hardsuit I can buy it and just give you the codes. There's a checkbox to indicate it is a gift [2/15/2021 3:38 PM] doug.emes Paul if I have OBS and Premiere do I need MCC, does it do separate track recording? [2/15/2021 3:46 PM] hardsuit MCC does the multi track, I don't know if premier does {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/15/2021 3:47 PM] hardsuit OBS/Streamlabs only records the outgoing stream, not all of the cameras/microphone inputs like MCC [2/15/2021 3:49 PM] hardsuit Jast - As far as budget, the streaming cart stuff has come out of the general funds in the oast, not any specific committee budget [2/15/2021 4:12 PM] doug.emes Thanks, I'll get myself a copy. [2/15/2021 5:12 PM] talkers Thanks @Hardsuit ! [2/15/2021 5:15 PM] hardsuit @A. Spencer(jast) What email should I point the Humble bundle purchase at ? [2/18/2021 1:44 PM] hardsuit @A. Spencer(jast) Do I need to buy the bundle, or have you already done so? The offer expires today [2/18/2021 3:52 PM] yashsedai Purchase has been made {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [2/18/2021 4:15 PM] andrew5152 Thank you @yashsedai and @Hardsuit [2/18/2021 5:28 PM] hardsuit Cool, thanks [2/18/2021 5:55 PM] doug.emes purchased 2 at $12 for myself and my boys [2/22/2021 5:39 PM] hardsuit @doug.emes Nice! [2/22/2021 5:41 PM] hardsuit @A. Spencer(jast) Any update on the Windows install for Printmaking? We have our monthly meeting on Thursday, so if it fits into your schedule before then we'd appreciate it. [2/22/2021 6:17 PM] andrew5152 Odds are very high it will happen Saturday [2/22/2021 6:18 PM] andrew5152 Was going to be LAST Saturday, but crap happened [2/22/2021 7:30 PM] hardsuit Ok, thanks. [3/1/2021 8:15 AM] andrew5152 @Hardsuit made several runs @ getting that OS installed saturday; all attempts failed. When I could get the installer to boot, the SSD was not found. When the SSD was detected, the installer refused to boot all the way up... we've got another couple tricks to try, but wanted to let you know we DID try (and fail), and we'll be trying again... sorry for the wait. Hopefully, soon. [3/1/2021 12:02 PM] skyspook @A. Spencer(jast) - Speaking of, the automotive computer will need a new SSD, not sure if we have any "extra" laying around. [3/1/2021 12:03 PM] andrew5152 none to my knowledge...let me do some digging... [3/1/2021 12:03 PM] andrew5152 thank you for checking that thing out! [3/1/2021 12:05 PM] skyspook I didn't do much but kick off its diagnostics. Spit out a very red SMART error on the hard drive. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/1/2021 12:24 PM] hardsuit Ok. Any chance it's the coin battery going bad? Recall an older computer of mine acting like that when the battery wore out. Assuming that mobo even has a battery on it... [3/13/2021 2:23 AM] redbeardedpirate is this an automated process or is this a one-off manual process that someone needs to do? meaning, do we use some kind of configuration management software like Salt or are these installs managed by individuals? https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/update-inkscape-to-production-release-v1-1-2020-03-12/79472 [3/13/2021 9:16 AM] skyspook I don't believe we have anything automated setup. I'm headed in tomorrow and can start updating workstations. I wanted to do the jump server last (I would hate making something on the jump server only to realize something couldn't be opened on the machine I needed to use it on) [3/13/2021 10:57 AM] canibalcrab the production release of inkscape sucks... [3/13/2021 12:46 PM] skyspook How so? I tend toward illustrator since I know how to use it. [3/13/2021 12:47 PM] skyspook So I'm not up on inkscape very well ๐Ÿ™‚ [3/13/2021 1:06 PM] talkers I've been using version 1 for 15 months (first 8 while in beta). I enjoy the many improvements. So I am also curious to know why it sucks. [3/13/2021 1:09 PM] canibalcrab .94 is just more user friendly and 1.1 crashes constantly when trying to render lots of vector points [3/13/2021 1:10 PM] canibalcrab which is the main use for lasering [3/13/2021 1:16 PM] skyspook Looks like we can do a manual install and keep both versions [3/13/2021 3:59 PM] hon1nbo Re: installs We typically just ran ninite every so often [3/19/2021 1:54 PM] hardsuit Any progress on the Printmaking Windows install? [3/19/2021 1:54 PM] hardsuit Or is it a hardware fail? [3/19/2021 2:54 PM] andrew5152 all efforts I have made have come up short... Last saturday, still could boot to installer, or see HDD, but not both @ once. Attempt to just drop an image onto it also did not work... [3/20/2021 3:54 PM] robert22 What would you like to do with this domain? Can I reimburse it? Transfer it to someone? Etc {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/822936104596275252/image0.png?ex=67b8e7f8&is=67b79678&hm=7953f5cd388c189787d3e0c0ccbf0dd53f89ed3420a3e88dd788e66ed1694be2& [3/20/2021 5:16 PM] talkers Dallas.ms is a fantastic domain name. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [3/20/2021 9:45 PM] andrew5152 @Robert Personally, I'm interested in keeping the dallas.ms domain. Let me do some checking. Can you PM me the costs/time period info to keep/reimburse and/or xfer to another entity? Thank you! [3/20/2021 10:18 PM] talkers Lock it in for at least 10 years. (With namescheap :) [3/20/2021 10:18 PM] talkers Please ๐Ÿ™ [3/20/2021 10:32 PM] yashsedai someone seems to have come out from under their rock [3/20/2021 10:39 PM] talkers @yashsedai you are unclear in your statement [3/20/2021 10:40 PM] yashsedai intentionally so [3/20/2021 10:41 PM] yashsedai i believe the word you were looking for was ambigous [3/20/2021 10:52 PM] talkers @yashsedai have fun with that. [3/20/2021 10:53 PM] talkers I'll enjoy my night with my sons and friends camping in this glorious weather โœŒ๏ธ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/823041619698778173/IMG_20210320_224232.jpg?ex=67b94a3d&is=67b7f8bd&hm=1f0fc7a6318579daeb720c3d594628ad822e9907300f289cfd7ac39728941f25& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/823041620194492477/IMG_20210320_201305.jpg?ex=67b94a3d&is=67b7f8bd&hm=2c1fff79f19e917626a7ba4ce8090b73f7d2c21841dc7d066caf718bcbae57f6& [3/25/2021 5:17 PM] hardsuit Am I correct in the understanding that all of the computers are "assigned" and none are available? Since my donated ones gave been non functioning, we're looking at having to purchase one if there are no DMS ones available. [3/25/2021 6:41 PM] andrew5152 All DMS machines have homes [3/25/2021 7:53 PM] hardsuit Ok. We're going to buy a prebuilt system, basically same specs as the laser sff systems {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/31/2021 6:53 PM] skyspook @A. Spencer(jast) - Any clue how many more LEDs and tombstones we have left? I counted around 22 lights that need attention around the space. [3/31/2021 6:54 PM] skyspook Happy to start project "Let there be light" if need be ๐Ÿ˜‰ [3/31/2021 7:27 PM] andrew5152 Uh [3/31/2021 7:27 PM] andrew5152 Yes [3/31/2021 7:27 PM] andrew5152 Processing.... [3/31/2021 7:27 PM] skyspook lol [3/31/2021 7:28 PM] skyspook No worries. Not urgent, but it's getting dark in a few places. [3/31/2021 7:29 PM] andrew5152 Box of tubes in supplies closet...all but 4 in it,... just can't remember how many that is... [3/31/2021 7:30 PM] skyspook I can check it this weekend. Probably will need to order some more. [3/31/2021 7:30 PM] andrew5152 Enough tombstones to use those up in the cabinet by Infra office, mostly pre wired by Judy [3/31/2021 7:31 PM] andrew5152 And enough tubes & stones to finish Metal in Metal, in boxes by the material rack last I knew [3/31/2021 7:32 PM] andrew5152 Definitely {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/31/2021 7:32 PM] andrew5152 I'll draft James and his card once those are used up [3/31/2021 8:46 PM] andrew5152 90% sure there's 25/case, so there should be 21 left and that should get ~5 fixtures done. Once we get close to using those all up, I'm sure I can beg & plead with James or Freddy or someone with a card to let me grab more. [4/1/2021 6:32 AM] andrew5152 checking back in on this, as I haven't heard back, but might have just missed it... Thank you! [4/1/2021 7:49 AM] robert22 Did not see this until now [4/1/2021 7:54 AM] robert22 Itโ€™s 60 dollars a year I would have transferred it years ago but the .ms domain was not able to be transferred to the register that DMS used [4/1/2021 7:55 AM] robert22 I can send it and join the others if it supports .ms [4/1/2021 7:55 AM] robert22 That is my preferred option [4/1/2021 7:59 AM] andrew5152 This is with godaddy now, yes? [4/1/2021 8:00 AM] robert22 Yes [4/1/2021 8:00 AM] robert22 And not by choice [4/1/2021 8:00 AM] robert22 It just was the only way to get .ms when it came out [4/1/2021 8:00 AM] andrew5152 we now have a godaddy for infra, so we should be able to xfer it there... [4/1/2021 8:01 AM] robert22 I am sorry there prices are terrible [4/1/2021 8:01 AM] robert22 But sure [4/1/2021 8:02 AM] robert22 I need the owners email account [4/1/2021 8:02 AM] robert22 Well crap [4/1/2021 8:03 AM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/827166268742041670/image0.jpg?ex=67b9225e&is=67b7d0de&hm=7292bef2c5d905c78046dcc9140aa6d1f1c1bf0937f2eb03c2ebe1d4398e6cea& [4/1/2021 8:08 AM] andrew5152 hm. wonder what's up with that [4/1/2021 8:09 AM] andrew5152 if you figure out that you can clear that hurdle, xfer to infra@dallasmakerspace.org [4/1/2021 8:27 AM] robert22 I likely will have to call go daddy [4/1/2021 8:27 AM] robert22 Possibly have it expire and then yโ€™all buy it [4/1/2021 10:28 AM] hon1nbo it's probably just in "locked" status [4/1/2021 10:28 AM] hon1nbo usually a checkbox buried in the domain control panel [4/1/2021 10:29 AM] hon1nbo some registrars require a 24 hour wait after the lock is removed [4/1/2021 2:20 PM] robert22 Itโ€™s in pending expiration status and they will not allow me to transfer [4/1/2021 2:21 PM] robert22 Registration expires on 4/21/21 [4/1/2021 2:21 PM] robert22 Seems pretty sketchy to block a transfer like this [4/1/2021 2:22 PM] robert22 I am now trying to see if it was transferred outside of go daddy if I would still be charged [4/1/2021 2:22 PM] robert22 Btw go daddy is really terrible if you canโ€™t tell [4/1/2021 2:22 PM] robert22 Got charged 120 last year for the domain [4/1/2021 2:27 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/827262889383428176/image0.jpg?ex=67b8d39a&is=67b7821a&hm=0a2212d0022ad0b3684dfd06569fa77b8d9eee87bc15e65116f678cd4aa6a430& [4/1/2021 2:27 PM] robert22 Now the domain is expired.... [4/1/2021 2:30 PM] robert22 https://tenor.com/view/crazy-working-jim-varey-frustrated-gif-13355780 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/crazy-working-jim-varey-frustrated-gif-13355780 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/LknMoZJ5Fidxty0P1G88lPwAPilhkJulZPbk6CifN3k/https/media.tenor.co/images/b96110885f82a2c098095622c7b00684/tenor.png [4/1/2021 2:33 PM] hon1nbo yeah I moved off them almost 10 years ago now; nothing but trouble [4/1/2021 2:33 PM] hon1nbo I currently use Google Domains and it's been awesome. For everything that they can't do (certain TLDs) namecheap has been my goto [4/1/2021 2:34 PM] skyspook I do namecheap mostly for many years. [4/1/2021 2:39 PM] robert22 Ya I have been using AWS and they have been great [4/1/2021 2:39 PM] robert22 The current status is .ms domains goto renew on the first day of the month they expire [4/1/2021 2:40 PM] robert22 So phone support is trying to bypass it [4/1/2021 2:42 PM] robert22 In good news look at that fluffy Insulation just got some photos from the installers! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/827266685471031296/image0.jpg?ex=67b8d723&is=67b785a3&hm=1dfbb6d52c13be56c4caac48f3cab1cd6b7c1b1d01d230025c07a902c3b05172& [4/1/2021 2:42 PM] robert22 16 inches of energy savings [4/1/2021 2:44 PM] hon1nbo I dunno, I see a lot of empty space [4/1/2021 2:44 PM] robert22 Haha just fill it up! [4/1/2021 2:45 PM] hon1nbo I mean might as well [4/1/2021 2:45 PM] hon1nbo to hell with wiring and ducting [4/1/2021 2:49 PM] kenpurcell Your boat has an attic?! ๐Ÿ˜‰ [4/1/2021 2:50 PM] robert22 Kelleyโ€™s old house in Birmingham hoping to get it sold ASAP just need to finish out a rental contract [4/1/2021 2:51 PM] robert22 But I had a rat infestation and scared the hell out of my tenant so just had them pull everything out [4/1/2021 2:56 PM] robert22 @Andrew#5152 Can you check infra email [4/1/2021 2:56 PM] robert22 @A. Spencer(jast) [4/1/2021 2:57 PM] robert22 Can you or someone click activate now [4/1/2021 2:57 PM] robert22 Need to do it soon as they manually moved it to active [4/1/2021 2:58 PM] robert22 @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium if you can do it that would be helpful as well there is some concerns that an automated process my break the transfer so trying to do it as quick as possible [4/1/2021 2:58 PM] hon1nbo I'm not on the infra stuff currently [4/1/2021 2:58 PM] robert22 Ok [4/1/2021 2:59 PM] skyspook I'm looking for the PW, just a sec [4/1/2021 2:59 PM] robert22 Awesome! [4/1/2021 3:00 PM] robert22 In fairness to GoDaddy the phone support was much better than the chat support [4/1/2021 3:00 PM] robert22 they say an email hit infra and needs to be activated [4/1/2021 3:01 PM] skyspook It's there, I just don't have the password. @A. Spencer(jast) or Freddy may have it [4/1/2021 3:02 PM] robert22 Cool now I just need someone to start paying the meetup bills and I will be done funding DMS [4/1/2021 3:03 PM] skyspook We can certainly take over the meetup stuff too. That might be more of PR and James, but easily handled [4/1/2021 3:03 PM] robert22 lot more talk than action [4/1/2021 3:06 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/827272610882256946/image0.png?ex=67b8dca8&is=67b78b28&hm=e8a49823770bf9d943927f598276547b553f6979f005aa1393661317d94a416d& [4/1/2021 3:08 PM] robert22 Been paying since 2014 [4/1/2021 3:08 PM] robert22 I did send James a reminder just now [4/1/2021 3:09 PM] skyspook I pinged him in some board chats too. We'll see what they'd like to do. No reason to have you keep paying if you don't want to, though I certainly appreciate what you've done in the past. [4/1/2021 3:10 PM] robert22 I am going to continue the membership fees but at this point I think DMS can pay the bills [4/1/2021 3:10 PM] robert22 Notably I still think meetup is undervalued [4/1/2021 3:10 PM] robert22 And that we need a calendar to meetup integration {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [4/1/2021 3:14 PM] robert22 Damn I should log in here more often [4/1/2021 3:14 PM] robert22 Not that I would do it {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/827274812489596948/image0.png?ex=67b8deb5&is=67b78d35&hm=5178ae9426725661daeb28b091f872c0be0715fa49ebc7f6e3b42693b34a3d20& [4/1/2021 3:34 PM] andrew5152 attempting the claim on dallas.ms now [4/1/2021 3:53 PM] andrew5152 claim has been made ๐Ÿคž [4/1/2021 3:54 PM] robert22 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/827284719309553746/image0.png?ex=67b8e7ef&is=67b7966f&hm=e6a82235923270436b2a1907f7c8e690f11d149a92b5f58c59b83cbf1e182422& [4/1/2021 3:54 PM] robert22 Can you check to make sure it gets paid [4/1/2021 3:56 PM] robert22 I am not sure what godaddy did on the backend but itโ€™s for sure do to be paid [4/1/2021 4:00 PM] andrew5152 working on that now... {Reactions} dms [4/1/2021 4:00 PM] andrew5152 Thank you! [4/1/2021 4:08 PM] andrew5152 have set it up to charge the card on file upon renewal on 4/21/2021. I *THINK* that'll get it... [4/1/2021 4:09 PM] robert22 Excellent [4/1/2021 4:13 PM] andrew5152 if we want to change out meetup, we can do that, too...well, we can try to get that done now, too. ๐Ÿ˜„ [4/1/2021 4:13 PM] robert22 Sure are you currently an organizer? [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] andrew5152 I am not [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] yashsedai I am [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] yashsedai didnt see where to take it over [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] andrew5152 looks like we have some co-organizers on the line, though [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] andrew5152 freddy, for example [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] yashsedai haha [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] robert22 Can you see billing information? [4/1/2021 4:17 PM] yashsedai i can't [4/1/2021 4:18 PM] yashsedai is it called member dues? [4/1/2021 4:19 PM] robert22 Organizer Subscription [4/1/2021 4:19 PM] robert22 I sent a photo earlier on this chat [4/1/2021 4:20 PM] yashsedai i see it [4/1/2021 4:21 PM] yashsedai so it looks like you have to step down as organizer and you can nominate me [4/1/2021 4:21 PM] yashsedai only the organizer can see that [4/1/2021 4:21 PM] robert22 Ok checking [4/1/2021 4:22 PM] robert22 Any idea how to do that [4/1/2021 4:22 PM] robert22 I think I found it [4/1/2021 4:23 PM] yashsedai i found it by clicking the group, then manage group dropdown and stepdown is at the bottom [4/1/2021 4:23 PM] robert22 Just a Sec removing my card on file [4/1/2021 4:23 PM] robert22 Learned my lesson on this before {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [4/1/2021 4:25 PM] yashsedai no worries, totally agree [4/1/2021 4:26 PM] robert22 Haha the installer is mad at me as I dropped to do this [4/1/2021 4:27 PM] robert22 I will as soon as I get WiFi back [4/1/2021 4:27 PM] robert22 Marina. Is working on the WiFi and my iPad was the test platform [4/1/2021 4:30 PM] robert22 Should be done it went to you and James [4/1/2021 4:30 PM] robert22 I guess itโ€™s first one there gets it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [4/2/2021 3:04 PM] andrew5152 @Robert we have received the receipt for renewal on the dallas.ms domain; I'm calling that a success! Thank you, and @yashsedai for helping get it and meetup transferred over. Really appreciate the help (not to mention the sacrifices you made over the years to keep those resources functional and available)! {Reactions} dms (6) [4/4/2021 9:16 PM] craj1031tx hi, it looks like there is a lot of blacksmithing stuff in the plastics SIG area of machineshop. was this coordinated with anyone from machine shop before hand? I noticed that the corner of the new warehouse has been cleared out so im assuming some expansion work is going on [4/4/2021 9:16 PM] craj1031tx i volunteered to be the plastics sig lead so just wanted to check in since this might be my responsibility now. [4/7/2021 11:29 PM] hardsuit @A. Spencer(jast) The new HP computer is set up in the Printmaking area. Figured we'd grab the SSD out of the old donor computer to add a bit more local storage, but otherwise it's good to set up as IT needs. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [4/12/2021 7:52 PM] hardsuit SSD & cable is taped to top of the new computer {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [4/13/2021 9:45 PM] ealott There's a loud beep emanating from the construction corner of the warehouse, possibly from the electrical equipment. Is this a known thing, or should I investigate further? [4/13/2021 9:47 PM] yashsedai maybe go see what is beeping? [4/13/2021 9:48 PM] yashsedai would be awesome! [4/13/2021 9:55 PM] ealott Cool beans. Turns out it's the scissor lift. [4/13/2021 9:56 PM] ealott Maybe indicating charge status? [4/13/2021 9:56 PM] skyspook Ah, someone left it unplugged and on I suppose. Can/did you turn it off [4/13/2021 9:56 PM] skyspook Yep, exactly that :)( [4/13/2021 9:56 PM] skyspook ๐Ÿ™‚ [4/13/2021 9:57 PM] ealott Not yet, but I can. It appears to be plugged in, but not sure if the outlet is live. [4/13/2021 9:57 PM] skyspook Interesting. Feel free to turn off the switches and see if that makes the annoying beeping stop. If not, just unplug it for now (would rather it drain than charge badly) [4/13/2021 10:01 PM] ealott Ended up pressing the E-Stop, and it's silent. [4/13/2021 10:01 PM] skyspook Sweet, thank you! [4/13/2021 10:01 PM] ealott Sure thing! [4/16/2021 3:33 PM] robogreg is there any info that could be shared on what the server/maintenance costs are for Talk (Discourse)? [4/16/2021 3:34 PM] canibalcrab @yashsedai or @A. Spencer(jast) might be able to help [4/16/2021 3:36 PM] skyspook It's running on an aws server, and if I recall it's a decent sized one, then you'd have the DB, etc. Don't have the billing in front me but I believe it's just north of $100/mo. That could probably be reduced by load balancing it on smaller machines and bringing stuff in/out based on load. [4/16/2021 3:37 PM] skyspook Could be more than that too, I haven't split out each subsystem we have. [4/16/2021 3:37 PM] robogreg thanks that is really helpful [4/16/2021 3:39 PM] skyspook I believe we were looking at their hosted option too, but think they have some restrictions that don't work well with us. [4/16/2021 3:43 PM] kenpurcell Hosted usually has limitations on 3rd party extensions/plugins. I run a Discourse for our fireworks group on Digital Ocean for $15/month. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/832717889009876992/Screen_Shot_2021-04-16_at_3.42.21_PM.png?ex=67b8e577&is=67b793f7&hm=981e7682624a03add563e8039eeef225fa299f0bae14d71aa8d91d937b002a6d& [4/16/2021 3:44 PM] kenpurcell Scale up from there. Also do not use Digital Oceans email services for the account manager side. Almost all of DO's IP addresses are blacklisted for email. Use another SMTP service to handle the emails, like SparkPost, SMTP.com, etc. [4/16/2021 3:44 PM] skyspook It can certainly be done fairly cheap. If I get some time I was going to see what it would take to load balance ours and have it as a scaling group. See if it'd be any cheaper. [4/16/2021 3:45 PM] skyspook Think we run into spike usage that can overrun smaller instances [4/16/2021 3:46 PM] kenpurcell I think the people from Discourse said DMS's TALK is one of the top 50 largest instances. [4/16/2021 3:52 PM] skyspook That's fairly impressive ๐Ÿ™‚ [4/17/2021 5:37 AM] hon1nbo The issue with the hosted services was: * We lose Retort and Canned Replies * We wouldn't be able to keep the images in our own AWS instance which means we had to pay basically double for their instance large enough for our content. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [4/22/2021 7:14 PM] hardsuit Hey, can we please get the Windows install on the new Printmaking computer? [4/22/2021 7:19 PM] andrew5152 haven't forgotten you. just haven't had time... [4/22/2021 7:19 PM] skyspook I'll be in this weekend if you want me to load it up @A. Spencer(jast) . Just need to know where the iso or image is. [4/22/2021 7:20 PM] andrew5152 thumb drive in my pocket... [4/22/2021 7:20 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [4/22/2021 7:20 PM] andrew5152 let me see what I can do [4/22/2021 7:28 PM] hardsuit Ok, thanks [4/22/2021 7:55 PM] hardsuit Does anyone know if we bought a custom brah pack for Illustrator and installed it on the PC, would the different members have access to that brush pack when they logged into their individual Adobe Cc accounts? [4/22/2021 7:55 PM] hardsuit Brush pack [4/24/2021 10:41 AM] skyspook @Hardsuit - did you want both hard drives in this computer? There's an m.2 in it already. [4/24/2021 10:42 AM] robert22 @Skyspook while you are doing maintenance I am not sure if anyone installed the new solidworks version and license on the jumpserver [4/24/2021 10:43 AM] robert22 Key was sent to infra [4/24/2021 10:43 AM] skyspook I'll check for it, thanks [4/24/2021 10:45 AM] skyspook Looks like someone started a network run over there too. I'll need to finish that :) [4/24/2021 10:48 AM] hardsuit If it'll fit with no issues, sure [4/24/2021 10:48 AM] skyspook Sure thing [4/24/2021 10:49 AM] hardsuit I know we're gonna be loading it up with a LOT of stock fonts and graphics [4/24/2021 10:53 AM] skyspook Yea, if you're planning on a lot of adobe usage, having a second hd certainly helps [4/24/2021 10:54 AM] skyspook I have a tour to give, but I'll get it set up today [4/24/2021 1:18 PM] doug.emes @Skyspook if you can confirm the 3 machines are in digital annex, ill come out tomorrow and install the vinyls [4/24/2021 1:49 PM] skyspook Doesn't look like they're in there right now. @A. Spencer(jast) where are they located? [4/24/2021 2:42 PM] skyspook @Hardsuit Computer is setup. Wired in, joined to the domain, and licensed. I created a new group "Printmaking Admins" to give admin rights to the computer. You're in there, and the chair can add more. [4/24/2021 2:43 PM] skyspook Ssd could use a 3.5-2.5 converter to mount properly. We probably have some, but I just couldn't find them :) [4/24/2021 2:44 PM] hardsuit Ok, I have some rattling around somewhere [4/24/2021 2:44 PM] hardsuit Oh, computer annex software question [4/24/2021 2:45 PM] andrew5152 The short version : only one has made it out, hdd shortage I still need to rectify stymied furthering rollout {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ blobsurprised [4/24/2021 2:45 PM] hardsuit Do y'all know if we have OBS)Stream Labs installed? [4/24/2021 2:45 PM] hardsuit OBS or Streamlabs [4/24/2021 2:46 PM] skyspook OBS is on the streaming cart. It's not installed by default on anything else, but we could start adding it [4/24/2021 2:46 PM] hardsuit Easier to teach them if I can have students on their own machines following along [4/24/2021 2:48 PM] hardsuit If both could be added to the installs in the Computer lab I'd appreciate it [4/24/2021 2:48 PM] skyspook If I have time today I can do that. [4/24/2021 2:49 PM] skyspook Do you have a class coming up? (a deadline?) [4/24/2021 2:58 PM] hardsuit No, just been thinking I need to start putting classes up soon [4/24/2021 3:42 PM] doug.emes So they didn't had ssd @A. Spencer(jast) ? [4/24/2021 3:47 PM] skyspook All set, has both obs and streamlabs installed. No excuse now ;) [4/24/2021 3:47 PM] hardsuit Sweet, thanks! [4/24/2021 3:49 PM] andrew5152 Dunno. I know I have less hdd than boxes. [4/24/2021 3:51 PM] skyspook @A. Spencer(jast) Let's just get some then. Need that one for automotive too, and we can just clone one of the ones we have. [4/24/2021 4:12 PM] andrew5152 Agree. Started process, got sidetracked, and dropped the ball. Will pick back up... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [4/24/2021 4:35 PM] doug.emes Thanks! [5/27/2021 6:52 PM] robert22 Is there anything new in surveillance camera tech? I am looking to do some upgrades the only certain thing is I want to do POE cameras and I want to have some good human detection capabilityโ€™s around the pool. [5/27/2021 10:47 PM] yashsedai outside of actual hardcore vms only verkada and a few others have really done great with human detection [5/28/2021 3:03 PM] robert22 Is anyone going to be at DMS soon I wanted to see if someone could check the interlock on the powermatic and saw stop to see if the antenna is loose or disconnected [5/28/2021 3:04 PM] skyspook Try power cycling them first. I've had that work a couple of times [5/28/2021 3:04 PM] robert22 Haha they are powered up for sure [5/28/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 Just having WiFi stability issues itโ€™s for sure on [5/28/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 *itโ€™s on for sure [5/28/2021 3:05 PM] skyspook Ah. I'll be there tomorrow - I can take a look then [5/28/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 Thanks! [5/28/2021 3:05 PM] skyspook Misread your first message, sorry ๐Ÿ™‚ [5/28/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 Hoping they just are loose [5/28/2021 3:06 PM] robert22 Or maybe someone took them again [5/28/2021 3:06 PM] skyspook Well they just had a cleanup day Saturday, so we can hope they just banged them around a bit [5/28/2021 8:32 PM] engpin1964 Hey can someone check the doors people are having hard times getting in both back doors [5/28/2021 8:46 PM] skyspook Think I know why, just a sec [5/28/2021 8:49 PM] skyspook Think that should fix it. Left a couple of doors electronically propped for the contractors, which draws power to keep open. Probably made the power weak for the other doors [5/28/2021 9:14 PM] yashsedai shame! [5/28/2021 9:35 PM] skyspook I know, damn me helping construction continue. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [5/28/2021 9:36 PM] skyspook Let me know if that doesn't fix it. I should be there tomorrow morning [5/30/2021 4:20 PM] dinkbatt oi, did the vinyl cutter pc ever get the software installed on it? *prod* [6/1/2021 6:57 PM] ealott Do we have a centralized place I can send some syslogs via TCP and UDP? Preferably where I can access them (and maybe other committee chairs in the future)? Current use cases: 1) Store access logs for the RFID cabinet lock I'm building 2) Store OctoPrint logs from 3DFab (eventual goal is to notify on specific errors, especially the serial disconnect error) [6/1/2021 6:59 PM] ealott Separately, I've also written a small caching server (with Flask) that serves up the list of users in 3D Printing Basics to JSON. I'd prefer to keep it running within the Space or the Space's AWS account. I've got it mostly Dockerized for now, but could convert it to a SAM app and deploy on AWS Lambda for ultimate cost/time savings. [6/1/2021 7:00 PM] canibalcrab https://c.tenor.com/3mh7gjCQpKQAAAAM/simpsons-nerd.gif {Embed} https://c.tenor.com/3mh7gjCQpKQAAAAM/simpsons-nerd.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wH-jOpUv-QPDFtrn0_jewee0PPw8r_AYIjivXM5sJ5c/https/c.tenor.com/3mh7gjCQpKQAAAAM/simpsons-nerd.gif {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜€ [6/1/2021 7:02 PM] yashsedai What package did you have in mind? [6/1/2021 7:02 PM] yashsedai We have splunk but it is currently infra/security [6/1/2021 7:03 PM] yashsedai As for serving up a list of users in 3d printing basics, prlxutil does that for all ad groups via an api [6/1/2021 7:04 PM] yashsedai But if you have some need to have a different format/etc we can definitely talk about it [6/1/2021 7:05 PM] ealott Splunk should be perfectly fine, either the infra/security instance or another (which I'm happy to help setup, if needed). I'm also cool with using the built-in vanilla syslog server on whatever existing Linux host is most appropriate (at least until the RFID lock is more production-ey). [6/1/2021 7:05 PM] skyspook Sounds like we need an infrastructure meeting @A. Spencer(jast) :) {Reactions} dms (2) [6/1/2021 7:05 PM] ealott Is prlxutil that PHP and Powershell solution that has the hardcoded API keys? ๐Ÿ˜„ [6/1/2021 7:06 PM] ealott If so, that should work just fine. [6/1/2021 7:08 PM] ealott While I'm at it, can I also have a pony? ๐Ÿ™‚ [6/1/2021 7:08 PM] yashsedai no [6/1/2021 7:09 PM] skyspook Can *I* have a pony? [6/1/2021 7:10 PM] yashsedai no [6/1/2021 7:11 PM] skyspook :P [6/1/2021 7:11 PM] yashsedai NO PONIES AT THE SPACE UNLESS they service ponies [6/1/2021 7:11 PM] ealott Does that include cloning experiments? [6/1/2021 7:11 PM] yashsedai lol don't make us make a rule [6/1/2021 7:12 PM] skyspook Imma getting a aervice pony [6/1/2021 7:12 PM] ealott For variety, I'll get an emotional support llama. [6/1/2021 7:12 PM] yashsedai lol emotional support animals are not allowed at the space [6/1/2021 7:13 PM] ealott Welp, it was worth a try :p [6/1/2021 7:13 PM] yashsedai i agree [6/1/2021 7:13 PM] yashsedai emotional service creatures, what a minefield [6/3/2021 8:24 AM] kenpurcell How did that convo go down so fast? Emotional Support Sloth [6/3/2021 4:06 PM] engpin1964 I mean it is the mascot for the makerspace [6/6/2021 2:59 PM] ealott Who's going to conduct the biannual sloth cleaning? ๐Ÿฆฅ [6/6/2021 4:22 PM] hardsuit NOT IT. [6/6/2021 4:22 PM] hardsuit And I don't mean I.T. [6/8/2021 12:09 PM] nullinterface it's never not layer 1 [6/13/2021 3:21 PM] ealott Heh. Since the Space Sloth cleaning discussion is tabled for now... Can we talk about what happened to the old NextEngine 3D scanner? Specifically, where's its carcass? [6/13/2021 3:25 PM] canibalcrab I thought it got sent back and then the company wouldn't respond [6/13/2021 3:26 PM] canibalcrab or was that one if the resin printers [6/13/2021 3:42 PM] yashsedai We are in possession of it [6/13/2021 3:44 PM] yashsedai It is currently in the infra office, I was not aware that we had it either. I ran across it looking for something yesterday [6/13/2021 3:44 PM] canibalcrab nice [6/13/2021 8:37 PM] themitch22 One of our meetings we decided infra would take it to repair it. Doesn't seem like that was done so sell it for parts. [6/13/2021 9:03 PM] skyspook Didn't even know we had it. Want I should take a look? [6/13/2021 9:28 PM] hon1nbo it was on our backburner list, then pandemic threw a monkey wrench and it was forgotten [6/13/2021 9:28 PM] hon1nbo for parts it should be [6/13/2021 10:38 PM] ealott Cool beans, appreciate you guys taking a look. We'll see what we can get for it and maybe put the proceeds towards a superior replacement. [6/14/2021 1:53 PM] robert22 Can someone that is a MM admin look for Chris Avila he is our Cintas delivery guy for first aid his badge has stopped working. [6/14/2021 1:54 PM] robert22 I need to confirm he still has contractor access [6/14/2021 1:54 PM] skyspook Does he have the badge number? [6/14/2021 1:54 PM] skyspook I can look it up at least [6/14/2021 1:54 PM] robert22 Pending [6/14/2021 1:54 PM] skyspook Thanks [6/14/2021 1:55 PM] robert22 His van is in the shop so will get it soon but I am pretty sure I put him there as a contractor [6/14/2021 1:55 PM] skyspook I see 2 active cintas badges "Cintas Fire" and "Cintas badge 5/14/21", along with a couple of suspended ones. [6/14/2021 1:56 PM] robert22 Time to say a prayer itโ€™s still readable [6/14/2021 1:56 PM] robert22 Neither of those are right [6/14/2021 1:56 PM] robert22 He has been there for 3-4 years now [6/14/2021 1:56 PM] robert22 He is Cintas first aid [6/14/2021 1:57 PM] skyspook Yea, I got nothing for first aid, or for his name. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [6/15/2021 2:21 PM] robert22 Here is the number [6/15/2021 2:23 PM] yashsedai It's re-enabled [6/15/2021 2:26 PM] skyspook Thanks @yashsedai ! [6/15/2021 2:26 PM] yashsedai yw [6/15/2021 2:59 PM] andrew5152 @Robert is this the same badge as mentioned above referencing "Chris Avila" with "Cintas First Aid"? [6/15/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 Yes itโ€™s the same gig [6/15/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 Guy [6/15/2021 3:05 PM] robert22 Hopefully itโ€™s tagged with his name and company now [6/15/2021 3:19 PM] andrew5152 The tag has been updated with function, company, and name. Thank you. [6/21/2021 7:08 PM] robert22 Just to confirm wireless usiNg PSK [6/21/2021 7:08 PM] robert22 dms-member [6/21/2021 7:08 PM] robert22 Or dms-members [6/21/2021 7:12 PM] yashsedai correct [6/21/2021 7:13 PM] robert22 Which one [6/21/2021 7:13 PM] yashsedai is this for general laptop connectivity or something else? [6/21/2021 7:13 PM] robert22 Pre programing the interlock before it ships [6/21/2021 7:14 PM] yashsedai you so nice! [6/21/2021 7:15 PM] yashsedai DMS Member [6/21/2021 7:15 PM] yashsedai is the ssid [6/21/2021 7:15 PM] robert22 No dash? [6/21/2021 7:15 PM] yashsedai nope [6/21/2021 7:15 PM] yashsedai not in the controller [6/23/2021 12:55 PM] themitch22 talk seems to be slowing down/unavailable [6/23/2021 1:10 PM] robert22 seems to be working here {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [6/23/2021 2:53 PM] kenpurcell seems fine, was recently updated to latest version [6/23/2021 3:01 PM] skyspook https://tenor.com/view/itcrowd-reboot-gif-4770974 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/itcrowd-reboot-gif-4770974 turning it off and on again https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yT_2LQVu6KabZySMpjAU7NfMc7f70V9uKof7O70UClQ/https/media.tenor.co/images/9574a5d3a43a7c228779f4d33b30967e/raw [6/23/2021 3:52 PM] yashsedai lol [6/23/2021 3:53 PM] yashsedai dear comcrap, stop trying to upsell me and just tell me if you offer fiber [6/23/2021 11:04 PM] rayearth42 That is my favorite show [6/23/2021 11:05 PM] rayearth42 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/857471453929537556/0db9fbf3d57706722d1b1750030ecb82.gif?ex=67b94d05&is=67b7fb85&hm=d0d96f137754dc94a50eedb2755bd8aa1d951e3dce2b474aed1b545902508cd5& [6/23/2021 11:06 PM] rayearth42 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/857471693148913694/f6aba836de9a4e3bcc247532d7133157e833a5d8ce606dc2ef08b8aca36d23f6.jpg?ex=67b94d3e&is=67b7fbbe&hm=16b24c390787ef66d754d0794cbc94b43abb1f5542776e07ae659c3f5575620e& [6/28/2021 10:44 AM] hardsuit Question, Printmaking authorized buying Affinity Photo and Designer for our computer. Can we buy it and just give you the install authorization code, after, or do y'all need to do entire purchase chain? [6/28/2021 10:44 AM] hardsuit They're doing their 50% off sale, but it expires in 2 days [6/28/2021 10:49 AM] skyspook May want you to use one of our emails as the contact, but you should be able to purchase - @A. Spencer(jast) ? [6/28/2021 10:57 AM] yashsedai Feel free to purchase, we just ask that you do the transaction from a dms email. [6/28/2021 11:03 AM] hardsuit Ok [6/28/2021 1:05 PM] hardsuit Ok, bought using my dallasmakerspace.org email. How/where should I send the activation codes? I'm assuming I can install them myself since I have admin privileges on that computer. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/28/2021 2:11 PM] yashsedai infra@dallasmakerspace.org is the best, thanks for letting us know! [6/28/2021 2:49 PM] skyspook Any idea on what the motor overload fault is on the compressor? I can head in after work and take a look [6/28/2021 2:50 PM] yashsedai Suspect it got too hot [6/28/2021 2:51 PM] yashsedai i was gonna head down as well {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/28/2021 6:47 PM] themitch22 How many ubiquiti access points do we have? Whats their range typically. Just asking because I'm trying to get my company on something better than a home router [6/28/2021 9:11 PM] yashsedai Really depends on what your office looks like. Wall materials etc. [6/28/2021 9:12 PM] yashsedai We have roughly 5 on each side [6/28/2021 9:12 PM] yashsedai Some are not currently in service [6/28/2021 9:13 PM] yashsedai Get the cloud key, it's a must have [6/29/2021 3:25 AM] hon1nbo I'd put them on a UDM instead of a cloud key if feasible. Tons of expansion room and regular updates [6/29/2021 3:25 AM] hon1nbo Cloud access optional, but useful if they don't have in house IT [6/29/2021 3:25 AM] hon1nbo (Or if it's one person) [6/29/2021 7:51 AM] themitch22 You can't just configure the APs by themselves? [6/29/2021 7:53 AM] robert22 You can locally over Bluetooth with the app. A bit note is the supply chain on Ubiquiti gear is horrible right I doubt you would be able to get much volume of APโ€™s and the UDM Pro is very hard to find right now. [6/29/2021 7:55 AM] robert22 Haha was distracted TLDR ubiquiti has limited hardware that could block any new implementation that is of decent size [6/29/2021 7:58 AM] robert22 https://design.ui.com/login [6/29/2021 7:58 AM] robert22 This site may help [6/29/2021 8:21 AM] themitch22 Right now anything is better than three separate wifi routers with different ssids. [6/29/2021 1:17 PM] doug.emes you can also check out mikrotik [6/29/2021 1:17 PM] doug.emes very affordable vs ubiquiti [6/29/2021 2:35 PM] krataar btw I have the books for affinity photo and designer, and never opened them. Do you guys like donations {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) ๐Ÿคฉ (2) [6/29/2021 2:37 PM] hardsuit Heck yeah! I personally own the Designer one for home, but it'ibe fantastic to have copies in Printmaking [6/30/2021 11:30 AM] krataar I'll put them by the door for the next time i get over there {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [6/30/2021 11:29 PM] hardsuit Sweet, thanks! [7/5/2021 10:54 PM] skyspook I set up a station in the common room just for signups. Only goes to the accounts pages, and I hacked the browser to add some buttons to the signup pages to make navigation easier. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [7/5/2021 10:54 PM] skyspook {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/861817356946374726/PXL_20210706_032612497.jpg?ex=67b94a75&is=67b7f8f5&hm=34ba1c3740f571a20beefd169bc9769cfca918639e8366c77442d84f22c3f695& [7/5/2021 10:55 PM] skyspook Put one of the waiver stations there too, since folks end up needing to sign them again {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [7/6/2021 8:26 AM] andrew5152 A quick "thank you" to our participants in last night's Infra group meeting. Our new(er) attendees, thank you @Waldo @Sensei Ken @nommynap and our less new, thank you, too @Evan Lott @ray @Skyspook @yashsedai (if anyone knows Randy's handle/if he's on here, pls add). THANK YOU! I would also like to apologize for not being more "official" on the ending of the meeting; I really did want to see the server spaces; so much work has gone into those recently, and I really appreciate all that effort! It is my intention to summarize our meeting, "action items", etc. into an email to send out to the group to help "us" (by which I mean mostly me) remember what was talked about, who agreed to work on what, and what we're hoping to accomplish. As Justin said, we really need to make this a regular meeting. If you have thoughts or desires on frequency, days/times/dates/etc. let me know. Thank you again! {Reactions} dms (4) [7/6/2021 8:34 AM] andrew5152 @Skyspook @Evan Lott I have the impression you have been the most active with LED conversion; do we have any notes/lists of where this has been done so we can make infra-wide knowledge? And where-all are we storing the discards? I found (guessing; I didn't actually count) 20ish bulbs in the warehouse, including 3 in a box that's NOT on the shelves, but that is well short of the 50ish I was expecting to find out there... [7/6/2021 8:36 AM] skyspook @Evan Lott and @nommynap did most of them this time. Digital Media, the lobby, 3D Fab, the common room, and the flex area got the most love (flex still needs more). I know that some were existing retrofit LEDs (bad color ones, still plugged into the ballasts) [7/6/2021 8:37 AM] skyspook We generally put stickers on the inside, but I'm afraid we haven't been keeping a map of them. [7/6/2021 8:37 AM] skyspook I can print up one of the maps and we can go mark them (you can usually tell just by the color). [7/6/2021 8:38 AM] nullinterface the ballast retrofit tubes are a weird thing - pot luck on ballast compatiblity [7/6/2021 8:38 AM] skyspook Yep, and these were something like 3000K color too. Ugly compared to the 5000k. Really bad in a place like DM where you may want to take pictures [7/6/2021 8:39 AM] andrew5152 did we separate those out so we can dispose of them differently? [7/6/2021 8:39 AM] skyspook Yea, think we kept them near DM or put them in the supply closet... in case we actually wanted them for some reason {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/6/2021 8:40 AM] nullinterface I tried to do 4000K in the office section, 5000K in the warehouse 2016-2017 [7/6/2021 8:40 AM] nullinterface 3000K is something you'd see in residences [7/6/2021 8:40 AM] skyspook Yep [7/6/2021 8:41 AM] nullinterface to be fair, inexpensive retrofit tubes all have some just-perceptible 120Hz flicker [7/6/2021 8:41 AM] skyspook Probably done because previous occupants liked the cave-type feel [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] andrew5152 any approximate count on those? [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] skyspook It was 8 or 16 of them, some even type of number ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] andrew5152 lol [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] andrew5152 that's something [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] skyspook I'll wait for the other two to chime in. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿ˜„ [7/6/2021 8:42 AM] skyspook lol [7/6/2021 7:45 PM] ealott I changed out 3 in the lobby, 2 in 3D Fab, and 2 in the hallway between Digital Media and Creative Arts. I filled up the cardboard box (~10ish bulbs?) the LEDs came in with discards and placed it and additional discards in the warehouse, on the large shelves near Blacksmithing (there's a black tote with old bulbs sticking out the top). I also put all the old ballasts there. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ dms [7/6/2021 7:48 PM] andrew5152 Thank you. I saw a box with 3 bulbs in it back there... wonder if some went walkabout. Fine if they stay gone... [7/6/2021 7:49 PM] ealott Haha, maybe we can give the rest away? ๐Ÿ˜„ [7/6/2021 7:50 PM] andrew5152 that would suit me fine! [7/6/2021 7:50 PM] andrew5152 just need them to GO AWAY! [7/7/2021 7:09 PM] robert22 Random but anyone know where my phone number could be as related to Makerspace I have gotten 2 calls in the last 10 minutes for tours [7/7/2021 7:10 PM] robert22 Caller said google but it was not clear [7/7/2021 7:14 PM] yashsedai We can look [7/8/2021 3:45 PM] ealott What's your number @Robert ? {Reactions} trollface [7/8/2021 3:46 PM] talkers Are you adding him to more call lists? [7/8/2021 3:46 PM] ealott Darn, you foiled my plan, @john a gorman ! [7/8/2021 3:46 PM] talkers Sorry. I didn't mean to say the quiet part out loud {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜€ [7/8/2021 3:52 PM] ealott https://www.zoominfo.com/c/dallas-makerspace/348398450 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [7/8/2021 3:53 PM] robert22 Yep that is it! [7/8/2021 3:54 PM] robert22 @Lampy (Ken Purcell) when did you pass the bar? [7/8/2021 3:55 PM] robert22 The org chart is very interesting I have no idea where it was aggregated [7/8/2021 3:56 PM] kenpurcell Pass the bar? Oh my that is odd as hell! [7/8/2021 3:59 PM] kenpurcell The desire to correct that crap is strong but I don't want to signup for their dumb profile service. In the meantime can DMS giving me a raise to $0/hour? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [7/8/2021 4:08 PM] aceat64 we should triple the wages of all our volunteers [7/8/2021 4:08 PM] aceat64 ๐Ÿคฃ [7/8/2021 5:00 PM] skyspook Sure, -60 * 3 = -180. We'll make a mint! [7/9/2021 9:48 AM] anutterbutter Hi, um, need a fork lift for woodshop. [7/9/2021 9:51 AM] skyspook Barely trust most people with the pallet jack - probably not going to give anyone a forklift ๐Ÿ™‚ [7/9/2021 9:54 AM] aceat64 https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-forklift-steve-carell-fall-damage-gif-16756148 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-forklift-steve-carell-fall-damage-gif-16756148 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yq_qwXCzXjy-r-YUVmkowENIxu_tqmSm01WtnaEoqbs/https/media.tenor.co/images/744f0c75d190e7bdf0711c2dbae9cbe1/tenor.png [7/9/2021 10:01 AM] anutterbutter Lol [7/9/2021 10:01 AM] anutterbutter Looks about right [7/10/2021 9:23 PM] kenpurcell ๐Ÿด :dumpsterfire: [7/18/2021 10:21 AM] robert22 Can we get a talk category for โ€œTour Requestโ€ [7/18/2021 7:14 PM] doug.emes Hey @Skyspook I'm in the ca digital annex [7/18/2021 7:15 PM] doug.emes Replied with some thread res [7/18/2021 7:19 PM] doug.emes Also unrelated I grabbed my oldswitch from pallett [7/18/2021 7:19 PM] doug.emes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/866474294514024468/20210718_191902.jpg?ex=67b91812&is=67b7c692&hm=def2e7ae6c527e923bd0a5165e6a0292462d97a380bf9c2bc03fdb680046f57e& [8/22/2021 1:17 PM] nullinterface {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/879066871784177764/FB_IMG_1629656246042.jpg?ex=67b96c12&is=67b81a92&hm=486fa473dfe239894a90de2908bee305aba14d428143f919acb04a7ffbbde083& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [8/26/2021 9:10 AM] nullinterface Razer mice - *now shipping with rootkits* https://hackaday.com/2021/08/26/razer-mouse-grants-windows-admin-privileges/ {Embed} Bryan Cockfield https://hackaday.com/2021/08/26/razer-mouse-grants-windows-admin-privileges/ Razer Mouse Grants Windows Admin Privileges As the common saying goes, โ€œall networked computers are vulnerable to exploits, but some networked computers are more vulnerable than othersโ€. While not the exact wording from Animal Faโ€ฆ https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/RHtAyR44KIKAaAicqm9hzgT8GKgx8BiepHYfFy7kkLs/https/hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/razer-mouse-exploit-main.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [8/26/2021 9:39 AM] yashsedai oooooo [8/26/2021 9:40 AM] yashsedai das bad [8/26/2021 9:40 AM] nullinterface at least it requires physical access [8/29/2021 5:18 PM] limeytx Anyone have need for a Dell Poweredge 2950? [8/29/2021 6:27 PM] baitsyb8c Iโ€™m a student who is ready and willing to yoink any slightly outdated tech. [8/29/2021 6:40 PM] doug.emes is it full depth? yeah looks that way, wouldnt fit in quarter rack. [8/29/2021 6:53 PM] robert22 2950โ€™s are 2u and full size [8/29/2021 8:29 PM] doug.emes thanks for confirming, wont fit in my application, looks like madscicts wants i [8/29/2021 9:16 PM] hon1nbo 2950 isn't even worth it as free [8/29/2021 9:16 PM] hon1nbo I would advise to just recycle it [8/29/2021 9:16 PM] hon1nbo free or dirt cheap systems made several years after that are typically available [8/29/2021 9:16 PM] hon1nbo heck I may even have some 710s coming off rack soon and those aren't even worth anything but are still 10 years newer than those 2950s [8/29/2021 10:41 PM] jsnowfreedman Yeah I generally agree with that. The 1950/2950 series is a little to loud and a little too underpowered to run in a rack when you can get a 610 or 710 for less than 100$. Although 2950s are a heck of a lot more durable if you want to hook one up in your car for some reason xD [8/31/2021 12:16 PM] rayearth42 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/882312881759191172/opbRNWc4_uZ9PbJS0mQWUIgfC1REKDII8nD5U5YJXDtuIt3erW8hXRP_IGFjttooELYaUKoVcFUu0sdKK5FUbjSHNGA-YoaIMBDj.png?ex=67b95da7&is=67b80c27&hm=2cd4abed8283a8f856a4d2ef8de6095168988aa1c0ba8410ef54de68c24defac& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [8/31/2021 1:30 PM] yashsedai ba dum tissssss! [8/31/2021 10:21 PM] nullinterface GPUs ... would probably get you shanked {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/882465069500362772/ft7onq5zwqk71.png?ex=67b942a3&is=67b7f123&hm=a5a21e5b96ae55607eecbaa882e89bceac49fb9c809ab52b2e8168f195beabac& [9/1/2021 5:37 PM] jsnowfreedman A couple weeks ago I had offered to help out with getting the dc closets cabling cleaned up and some new runs. If help is still needed with anything, feel free to contact me - I am in the building most of the time these days and bored.. [9/9/2021 2:38 PM] canibalcrab do we have natural gas lines at the space? [9/9/2021 2:38 PM] robert22 Yes [9/9/2021 2:40 PM] canibalcrab nice do we know what psi they are at? [9/9/2021 2:40 PM] robert22 Not a clue [9/9/2021 2:52 PM] aceat64 from what I recall they only run to the roof for the heating [9/9/2021 2:56 PM] andrew5152 & janitor closet for hot water? [9/9/2021 3:08 PM] canibalcrab ng is cheap for burning tho [9/9/2021 3:10 PM] canibalcrab but I need to figure out what psi we have [9/9/2021 3:12 PM] canibalcrab and ng lines shouldn't be super expensive to run [9/9/2021 3:12 PM] michaelb5250 what psi are you looking for? [9/9/2021 3:13 PM] canibalcrab ng comes to homes at like 1/3 psi. I'd be looking for 5psi to 20psi [9/9/2021 3:16 PM] canibalcrab which I'm reading can be done by asking the gas company to put a higher pressure regulator before your low pressure reg and you just run two lines [9/9/2021 3:19 PM] aceat64 unless it was replaced, the water heater in 104 was electric when we moved in {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [9/9/2021 3:19 PM] aceat64 we actually didn't even bother having the gas turned on until the first winter [9/9/2021 3:20 PM] aceat64 people started to complain that it was "too cold" and did not agree with me that 65F is perfectly reasonable for indoors [9/9/2021 3:22 PM] canibalcrab tldr I want NG at a reasonable pressure in glassworks to make torches easier [9/9/2021 3:23 PM] yashsedai lol you want a pony? [9/9/2021 3:23 PM] canibalcrab no that's the next question [9/9/2021 3:24 PM] canibalcrab do we have oxygen on our tank rack outside and can I get a run put in for glassworks [9/9/2021 3:24 PM] canibalcrab I'll settle for ng tho [9/9/2021 3:24 PM] skyspook Not going to use the oxygen machines? [9/9/2021 3:25 PM] skyspook And no, we don't have O2 out there [9/9/2021 3:25 PM] canibalcrab they can work, but not as well [9/9/2021 3:25 PM] canibalcrab they will work very well if there's an NG line to assist them [9/9/2021 3:25 PM] robert22 Seems like your still better off using Airgas [9/9/2021 3:25 PM] skyspook James got me started on lampworking this week, so I definitely have a vested interest in this now ๐Ÿ™‚ [9/9/2021 3:26 PM] yashsedai you can get added to the list of things we have to talk to fire engineering about.... [9/9/2021 3:26 PM] skyspook Yep [9/9/2021 3:26 PM] canibalcrab the machines are used in combo with another gas like propane or NG [9/9/2021 3:26 PM] skyspook Ah, interesting [9/9/2021 3:26 PM] canibalcrab the map gas torches are like using hammers for everything [9/9/2021 3:27 PM] canibalcrab can only do so much [9/9/2021 3:27 PM] yashsedai flame temp or ? [9/9/2021 3:27 PM] skyspook Sounds about my speed, lol. But yes, very reduction burn and not a lot of control [9/9/2021 3:27 PM] skyspook Oh, btw, one of the hotheads tried to kill us. [9/9/2021 3:27 PM] skyspook I have it in my possession. [9/9/2021 3:28 PM] michaelb5250 the two tanks outside are Argon and Argon/CO2 mix I believe. [9/9/2021 3:29 PM] canibalcrab adjustableness and not having to have members bring tanks of map gas in [9/9/2021 3:29 PM] canibalcrab wtf did it do [9/9/2021 3:29 PM] skyspook Spit fire on the underside where the tube joins to the head [9/9/2021 3:30 PM] skyspook Far enough it was past the knob [9/9/2021 3:30 PM] skyspook James reacted pretty quickly [9/9/2021 3:30 PM] skyspook Threads just have a leak, but I'm trying to get ahold of them to see if it's repairable. Otherwise I'mma toss it and you can get better ones [9/9/2021 3:30 PM] canibalcrab did you check the tank it was attached to as well? [9/9/2021 3:31 PM] skyspook Yep, tank is fine [9/9/2021 3:31 PM] canibalcrab they are $55 [9/9/2021 3:31 PM] canibalcrab if someone cross threaded it, toss it [9/9/2021 3:31 PM] skyspook It's not - it's not the threads at the tank, but on the pipe the knob is on. Very strange failure mode [9/9/2021 3:32 PM] robert22 Disclaimer Past Performance Is Not Indicative Of Future Results. We let metalshop have a brazing setup years ago and within a few months someone lit the regulator on fire I think acetylene tank and another time found a tank I believe oxygen without a flame arrestor. [9/9/2021 3:33 PM] robert22 Ultimately if given the chance someone is going to blow up the bldg if given the chance [9/9/2021 3:41 PM] canibalcrab sure but if it's our stuff we have better regulation on it [10/6/2021 12:41 PM] doug.emes @Skyspook are we / y'all still using jumpcloud [10/6/2021 12:42 PM] yashsedai we have never used it [10/6/2021 12:42 PM] yashsedai only okta [10/6/2021 12:45 PM] jsnowfreedman The forbidden word 'Okta' [10/6/2021 2:05 PM] hon1nbo @yashsedai not as an alternative to okta AFAIK; Jumpcloud was looked at for SSH SSO stuff a while back (3 years?). [10/6/2021 2:06 PM] hon1nbo I don't know of it being deployed beyond a couple VMs for testing [10/6/2021 2:33 PM] jsnowfreedman If you're looking for SSH with some sort of LDAP/SSO/stuff, teleport (goteleport) is pretty damn good [10/6/2021 2:33 PM] jsnowfreedman Also allows for other apps and k7s clusters and stuff [10/6/2021 2:59 PM] ealott What's wrong with Okta? [10/6/2021 2:59 PM] ealott Sounds cool! Will give it a try for my personal stuff. Thanks for the tip. [10/6/2021 3:00 PM] jsnowfreedman Nothing really, it's just been an absolute pain at work in the past. [10/6/2021 3:01 PM] jsnowfreedman My only complaint with teleport is that if you're using the free version it is a little bit more limited on what auth connectors you can use... But it is open source so you could always build it yourself. I've been in the process of getting all of my flatmate and I infrastructure behind teleport - you can even with some effort make it so that new VMs based off a template can auto register themselves to the teleport cluster [11/16/2021 9:25 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/910370070713221140/PXL_20211117_032524390.MP.jpg?ex=67b943b2&is=67b7f232&hm=ca42de8a28751ab6ad5ac52edb173ce8665a817bcbfd043c2b035d6207bdfc09& [11/16/2021 9:25 PM] canibalcrab copier mad [11/16/2021 9:48 PM] hardsuit It ( the copier) really could use a full service cycle IMO. It has unfused toner showing up on prints pretty regularly, last I checked the black toner was almost gone, and most of not all of the imaging units were throwing codes about end of life issues [11/16/2021 10:04 PM] yashsedai I replaced the black toner {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/16/2021 10:04 PM] yashsedai Service is scheduled [11/16/2021 10:13 PM] hardsuit ๐Ÿ‘ [11/16/2021 11:03 PM] canibalcrab I never got it to print [11/21/2021 8:16 PM] hardsuit Magenta imaging unit also now cranky [11/21/2021 8:16 PM] hardsuit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/912164661657485332/PXL_20211122_021519563.jpg?ex=67b9338a&is=67b7e20a&hm=5c365ff73a27a93a8b1fe14c39448cd2fb53a19e8babb939e03eaf5a4d806772& [11/21/2021 8:18 PM] canibalcrab it's contagious [11/28/2021 1:07 PM] aceat64 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/tesla-charger-cover-missing/85849/2 [11/28/2021 1:07 PM] aceat64 pretty sure this will require us to replace the entire cable :\ [11/28/2021 1:08 PM] aceat64 optionally we could cut off the connector and wire up a j-plug, but it'll be kinda ugly and probably not very outdoor rated [11/28/2021 1:25 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/914597948497735731/PXL_20211128_192524354.MP.jpg?ex=67b8d337&is=67b781b7&hm=5e5467f67ba86f2ff31d1ae3181ec5b275f7ce6ff40f5f5ab172525ee60caf96& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/914597949156233246/PXL_20211128_192536857.MP.jpg?ex=67b8d337&is=67b781b7&hm=511422b67f8ba5edb03a1f72c5ab81f1793e40b161d7618f4a454cb5d922e084& [11/28/2021 1:26 PM] skyspook Yes, it's very damaged [11/28/2021 1:27 PM] jsnowfreedman How does this even happen...? Was it just run over or malicious? [11/28/2021 1:29 PM] canibalcrab it has power turned off for it now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/28/2021 2:01 PM] andrew5152 Guessing Braby's right, and someone drove off with it still attached... anybody have experience buying replacement cables? [11/28/2021 2:12 PM] skyspook According to @pearce , Tesla provided it. May reach out to them {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/28/2021 2:21 PM] aceat64 I didn't think Teslas would let you shift into drive while still connected [11/28/2021 2:24 PM] aceat64 could also be someone was charging and another vehicle clipped the connector or snagged the cord [11/28/2021 2:24 PM] aceat64 or just leaned real hard on the connector while it was plugged in because they didn't realize you have to press the button to get it to unlatch [11/28/2021 2:34 PM] andrew5152 https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-marvin-the-martian-look-confused-search-gif-4707296 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-marvin-the-martian-look-confused-search-gif-4707296 Marvin the Martian Martian https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nZWTJaQQUjGXpsjFuqQIMw5K2d39gsuGMHu3ueXX0I4/https/media.tenor.co/images/3d6b2bc81a63e8f359a7fdf3d9e2fe9a/raw [11/28/2021 2:35 PM] andrew5152 I should have considered Tesla would prevent shifting out of "park" while plugged in... [11/28/2021 2:45 PM] aceat64 I've never actually tried it though [11/28/2021 3:04 PM] andrew5152 Have attempted. We'll see if they get back to me, and what they say... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/28/2021 3:22 PM] andrew5152 to hear these folks tell it, there should be some agreement on file with Tesla, and we should totally know how to report this to Tesla for repair... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/reporting-damaged-destination-charger.244822/ {Embed} https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/reporting-damaged-destination-charger.244822/ Reporting Damaged Destination Charger Iโ€™m a frequent visitor of a business that has an official destination charger. Over the last several months itโ€™s been out of commission due to intentional damage (crushing the end). I reported it to the business, however they said itโ€™s owned & maintained by Tesla - including paying for the... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Vxj-mYx3LSpCjSVxtg6qJl6CYs7oVE6K1mcj-PiZT1o/https/teslamotorsclub.com/favicons/Social_Media_800x800.png [11/28/2021 3:24 PM] andrew5152 'course, none of them appear to be part of any business where there is one that needs reporting, just that the greedy fatcats who own businesses shouldn't be allowed to rook unsuspecting Tesla drivers by pretending to have chargers that work. Bastards. [12/17/2021 2:53 PM] jsnowfreedman > But at last count, we're up to 3 or 4 APIs that can get that information slight_smile @Skyspook (soft ping) moving this to the probably more appropriate channel... Are these documentee anywhere lol? And if not can you just brain dump whatever you have as you have time so I can find/document them? [12/17/2021 2:54 PM] skyspook I am slowly documenting what I find on Confluence. Think I've gotten most of the door controllers documented. I'm moving on to other badge systems and maker manager. ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/17/2021 2:56 PM] skyspook https://source.dallasmakerspace.org/display/INFRASTRUC [12/17/2021 2:57 PM] jsnowfreedman one of these days I will remember the subdomains that we use lol.. I keep trying to go to `jira.` or `confluence.` [12/17/2021 2:58 PM] skyspook I should cname that over for us [12/17/2021 2:58 PM] jsnowfreedman oh I am not permitted lol [12/17/2021 2:58 PM] skyspook If I haven't already [12/17/2021 2:58 PM] skyspook Hmm [12/17/2021 2:58 PM] jsnowfreedman oh you have made a redirect for confluence at least [12/17/2021 2:58 PM] jsnowfreedman looks like for some reason my desktop wasn't resolving it though [12/17/2021 2:59 PM] skyspook Oh, I think it's currently set up just for network admins on @A. Spencer(jast) 's recommendation. What do you think @A. Spencer(jast) ? Should probably have a group somewhere between full network admin and normal user ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/17/2021 3:01 PM] andrew5152 I agree. something between billybobpublicface and godsofallinfra should be struck... [12/17/2021 3:01 PM] skyspook I'd like to give them maybe desktop-level admin, so we can get some help with that, and then expand out as trust is established ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/17/2021 3:02 PM] jsnowfreedman Lol [12/17/2021 3:02 PM] jsnowfreedman I'm glad I'm not the only one that names my server roles like that [12/17/2021 3:02 PM] skyspook But in the meantime, I can add some folks directly to the infra confluence. [12/17/2021 3:03 PM] jsnowfreedman Oh also something I've been meaning to ask.. does DMS infra operate on IPv6 too? Haven't checked yet cuz I keep forgetting [12/17/2021 3:03 PM] skyspook I want to say one of our routers doesn't like it, so it's mostly ipv4 [12/17/2021 3:03 PM] andrew5152 your hard work down the tubes if wiring diagrams fall into the wrong hands, so...whatever you're comfortable with is fine. Wouldn't complain about being "in the loop" when changes are made... [12/17/2021 3:03 PM] skyspook lol [12/17/2021 3:04 PM] andrew5152 destkop admins are...shaky ground for me personally...likely due to past grievances and burnt hienies from trusting people "just a little"... [12/17/2021 3:04 PM] skyspook Mmm, true. [12/17/2021 3:05 PM] skyspook Gotta start trusting some new folks somehow though. Just trying to think of something where the damage would be minimal ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/17/2021 3:06 PM] jsnowfreedman Just do an interview process [12/17/2021 3:06 PM] skyspook Could do something more formal than "you show up a bunch, here's some creds" [12/17/2021 3:06 PM] skyspook ๐Ÿ™‚ [12/17/2021 4:25 PM] doug.emes I used to be one of those, obviously my availability is hampered but happy in 2022 to try and donate maybe 4hr/month on infra, even if it's back to pulling wire. [12/17/2021 4:27 PM] skyspook That would be awesome [12/17/2021 5:15 PM] aceat64 Frontier doesn't offer IPv6 yet for fiber [12/17/2021 5:22 PM] jsnowfreedman Yeah I'm kind of stuck in the position of I really want to help and have a lot of free time but haven't... Yet gained enough DMS specific know how to do so it seems [12/17/2021 5:23 PM] jsnowfreedman Oof.. Can we just set up an HE tunnel or something? They've made it really easy these days and you can even delegate rDNS for the /64 and /48 they issue [12/17/2021 5:23 PM] jsnowfreedman But all well [12/17/2021 8:43 PM] jsnowfreedman FYI, not sure who is in charge of stuff. But the second log4j CVE got escalated to 9/RCE. [12/17/2021 8:44 PM] skyspook We only have it in our atlassian suite, and they only used 1.x, which isn't affected [12/17/2021 8:44 PM] skyspook But good looking out. It's been interesting to watch [12/17/2021 8:45 PM] jsnowfreedman Yeah I've had one fire after another to patch over the last week -sigh- [12/17/2021 8:46 PM] skyspook Fun times :/ [12/21/2021 2:26 PM] aceat64 when's the next infra meeting? I don't see anything on the calendar atm [12/21/2021 2:26 PM] aceat64 I'd be down for something impromptu and online too [12/21/2021 2:26 PM] aceat64 it's my 2nd to last day at work, so not a lot going on atm lol [12/21/2021 2:26 PM] andrew5152 none until after Jan3 [12/21/2021 2:27 PM] andrew5152 (haven't scheduled it yet) [12/21/2021 3:10 PM] jsnowfreedman Same.. if there is anything to do (that I actually have perms to do or something..) I have a lot of free time [12/21/2021 5:46 PM] andrew5152 I still have zero time, and with Justin out, it'll have to fall to @yashsedai and/or @Evan Lott if you all want to put something together. I'll support any way I can, but, well, not a lot of time, esp. in sizable chunks. Got some coding projects if ya wanna to fix some WHCMS integrations and/or calendar stuffs... [12/21/2021 6:13 PM] jsnowfreedman I'm happy to take a look at whatever although I work best with software dev and datacenter ops/management stuff (servers/cabling/etc) [1/8/2022 9:38 PM] jsnowfreedman Am I able to get a new project created within the Jira system - I don't think I have permission? Do we have any sort of process for how SIGs and/or sub groups can take advantage of Jira? (Like... do we make the project the overall committee, and then just have different boards for each SIG, or can SIGs have their own projects?) [1/8/2022 9:41 PM] jsnowfreedman I would like to get something in place for the Amateur Radio stuff - and further (if possible..) I would like to be able to set some custom workflows to fit our needs [1/8/2022 9:43 PM] jsnowfreedman Also...I still see nowhere that infra requests or todo items are.. I've had a lot of free time, but still have no idea what needs to be done/or any guidance on getting started [1/9/2022 2:37 PM] ealott @Skyspook can probably answer ^ [1/9/2022 2:42 PM] skyspook We can create Jira projects, yes, just let us know what it should be called and who the project admin should be. I believe you can too @ealott ๐Ÿ˜‰ I don't think we've prioritized a list, but I know we have a backlog for the calendar system if you want to get setup to develop. There's a PR I made to update it to what's in production, which also has a dockerized dev environment for quick startup - https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/calendar/pull/125 [1/9/2022 3:18 PM] jsnowfreedman Awesome. I think for now just calling it Amateur Radio is good - and maybe as me and the EE chair as Admin for now? I don't really have any issue if any other AR people want some admin... I'm not elected or anything in the SIG, I just am just going to be getting it set up and started. Also great! Didn't realize there was actually a GitHub or anything that could be worked on..I'll take a look around there. Thanks! [1/9/2022 6:05 PM] doug.emes Hey snowie, just so you know, severalbof the HAMS are not class extra, so we don't want to be in control so to speak. The SIG has needed a leader for years, so unless yiu want to take 2 stepsback, it's going to be you :), [1/9/2022 6:08 PM] jsnowfreedman I'm not extra (yet, ask me again after testing next month) but also I don't mind leading it -shrug- [1/11/2022 1:52 AM] jsnowfreedman Do we have a keycloak instance (or similar) set up for having projects be able to have Oauth/SAML/link into the DMS auth system? [1/11/2022 2:15 AM] jsnowfreedman Also out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to force a rewrite or anything) was there any specific reason we went with cake/php for calendar and things like that? Or was it just because its what whoever wrote it knew? (I just want to know if there are any special considerations to take into account) [1/11/2022 2:17 AM] canibalcrab I believe that's what the person who wrote it knew [1/11/2022 2:18 AM] canibalcrab and when you are getting volunteer labor/cheap labor you take what you get [1/11/2022 2:24 AM] jsnowfreedman Yep okay no worries. Thats what I figured [1/11/2022 2:26 AM] canibalcrab as for the rest of the questions [1/11/2022 2:26 AM] canibalcrab https://c.tenor.com/5a70jiVvQvEAAAAM/i-know-some-of-these-words-mhmm.gif {Embed} https://c.tenor.com/5a70jiVvQvEAAAAM/i-know-some-of-these-words-mhmm.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/phddM7z_TiKW58S_21tyshb1CQWg2pMLI2PNYO4Azok/https/c.tenor.com/5a70jiVvQvEAAAAM/i-know-some-of-these-words-mhmm.gif [1/11/2022 2:26 AM] jsnowfreedman lol [1/11/2022 3:37 AM] jsnowfreedman I figure once Justin gets through my backlog of requests/quesitons for him he might now xD [1/11/2022 6:07 AM] andrew5152 cake php was the preferred environment of the developers, and despite many efforts by many volunteers in recent history (the last 5 years) to move away from it, it remains. we do use OKTA for sso/saml/oauth...kind of... "universal" Identity management is one more place DMS could use an overhaul. I also suspect that doesn't really address your question, and that when you and Justin chat he'll have better/more thoroughly applicable responses. [1/11/2022 6:17 AM] jsnowfreedman Lol ok. The more I hear the more it's reminding me a little bit of my last job [1/11/2022 8:16 AM] skyspook Okta is a free-level sso that is already maxed out on the 3 things we have it doing. @ealott and I are working on a a potential foss solution (Gluu) that may help tie our systems together. Right now most all platforms go directly against our AD with LDAP. I saw your requests, just haven't been able to get to them yet {Reactions} badge_gluegun [1/11/2022 8:17 AM] skyspook For new development we've been leaning towards python, just because there are a lot of people who know it (meaning we can get help), and it has a lower learning curve. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [1/11/2022 11:28 AM] jsnowfreedman No worries. Thanks [1/11/2022 11:31 AM] hon1nbo Okta can't be used for more than G Suite due to licensing; we're on a legacy non-profit donation that only allows tying into one app (in this case G Suite directory). However, G Suite can be used as a SAML provider. [1/11/2022 11:35 AM] hon1nbo which reminds me @A. Spencer(jast) drop me a line, I me, I have a SAML integration on one of my cloud accounts labeled "Discourse" and I recall somewhat way back I was fixing the discourse integration. Want to make sure it was moved over before I delete it and break something [1/11/2022 11:39 AM] jsnowfreedman Okay. Otherwise, Keycloak is pretty darn easy to use and can also cascade SAML/Oauth iirc [1/11/2022 11:45 AM] hon1nbo G Suite OAUTH is nice for availability purposes, however some systems are harder to do line *nix which often need an integrator like JumpCloud unless you use some custom PAM modules that may or may not suddenly cease to exist. But those integrators can get hella expensive fast, so there's a separate system for SSH into things with a smaller user base. @Denzuko.sdf.org tried rolling out Hashicorp Vault and I tried FreeIPA but we never got both fully integrated for an apples-to-apples comparison and test in practice [1/11/2022 11:56 AM] jsnowfreedman Yeah I think I've recommended goteleport or hashicorp boundary for SSH and access control stuff in the past here - they are both free and integrates with a bunch of stuff that we could use, including SSH access control/RBAC and all that. Our stack at my business is: OpenDJ - LDAP/Accounts Keycloak - For handling Oauth/SAML to other applications (using the OpenDJ LDAP as a user backing) Hashicorp Boundary - Infrastructure Access Control/auditing (This can also do application proxying with ACL and stuff for software that doesn't have its own auth, or should be kept 'internal'. They both also do K8s and SSH acl, and boundary does RDP too iirc (which could be useful here at DMS if we chose) I mostly was asking about the oauth stuff, because it would be convenient if people who wanted to help with projects and stuff could use that instead of needing to bind into LDAP directly (which obviously raises some concerns of if they should have access). Nice thing with oauth is that an admin can limit their scopes to make sure they don't break stuff or gain permissions to what they shouldn't. [1/11/2022 11:59 AM] hon1nbo Nice thing about Google SSO is that it's a Zero-Trust system for a member to deploy something that uses it, but doesn't need any permissions / violation of security nor work by the DMS infra team to allow [1/11/2022 12:00 PM] hon1nbo it deploys like any other Google SSO like one would use for personal forum logins etc, but server-side can say `"only allow from @dallasmakerspace.org"` [1/11/2022 12:00 PM] hon1nbo if something were ready to deploy to DMS officially, then it could get the OAUTH credential management migrated to something owned by Infrastructure [1/11/2022 12:01 PM] hon1nbo there's tons of ways to make it happen from CLI too, albeit a little more work. [1/11/2022 12:02 PM] aceat64 am I the only non-furry in tech now? ๐Ÿคฃ [1/11/2022 12:04 PM] jsnowfreedman yes [1/11/2022 12:04 PM] jsnowfreedman likely [1/11/2022 12:04 PM] aceat64 keycloak probably makes the most sense for our setup, unless we want to pay for okta or similar [1/11/2022 12:05 PM] aceat64 I imagine most members have never even logged into gsuite [1/11/2022 12:06 PM] jsnowfreedman I didn't even know we had one lol [1/11/2022 12:08 PM] aceat64 we probably need to draw up a rough architectural diagram [1/11/2022 12:08 PM] jsnowfreedman mhm that would be nice too.. [1/11/2022 12:08 PM] hon1nbo The number increased after a lot of volunteer stuff started using it, and some things like the remote classes got people to start using it. [1/11/2022 12:08 PM] hon1nbo also members with their own adobe accounts who don't want it to sync stuff to our computers when using them [1/11/2022 12:09 PM] hon1nbo I mean one of the AWS outages was suspiciously timed with the last day of MidwestFurFest when a large pool of tech furries were too hungover to do anything {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [1/11/2022 12:09 PM] aceat64 :think: [1/11/2022 12:09 PM] jsnowfreedman although tbf.. I think that was a double whammy, because it was also a day after re-invent finished [1/11/2022 12:09 PM] jsnowfreedman so all the furries where at a con, and all the others where hungover af from reinvent [1/11/2022 12:10 PM] aceat64 when's the next infra meeting? [1/11/2022 12:10 PM] jsnowfreedman no idea, haven't seen any mention about one yet [1/11/2022 12:10 PM] aceat64 I'm down to help get some stuff sorted out [1/11/2022 12:11 PM] hon1nbo well good luck with that since I won't be helping for a while lol [1/11/2022 12:12 PM] aceat64 lol that makes sense [1/11/2022 12:13 PM] hon1nbo should add that as a role tag but then might attract usage from some of the others who were in less savoury circumstances. [1/11/2022 12:51 PM] kenpurcell {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/930534505142419526/269953877_5372216676128448_7144579059662927431_n.jpg?ex=67b9740a&is=67b8228a&hm=dc389534c913e7273bbbfe7060d88a991769e3da9f70848b6ce3d2aaf8e134ea& {Reactions} โค๏ธ [1/11/2022 3:22 PM] engpin1964 @aceat64 Iโ€™m not a furry and Iโ€™m in tech too [1/11/2022 3:40 PM] andrew5152 TBD. Preferences for date/time? [1/11/2022 3:50 PM] aceat64 pretty much any week day after 5pm works for me [1/11/2022 3:50 PM] aceat64 or anytime on the weekend {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [1/11/2022 4:30 PM] jsnowfreedman I'm available almost anytime after noon. Most weekends are fine except for this Saturday {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [1/13/2022 7:34 PM] denzuko No but my kinks are a liitle different. Like cat6 o 9 tails ;) [1/13/2022 7:36 PM] denzuko Or booting bsd on sparc32 with fpgas [1/14/2022 12:53 AM] denzuko Wonder of the hive mind's wisdom can help. I got a mikrotik Hap2 router that's been sunddenly crapping out on bandwidth for 5g, rate dropping to 3 or 4Mbps on a configured 10mbps, and randomly rebooting. My ndis and seim proves its not someone messing with it. Plus bandwidth logs shows we're not even remotely using the full speed available or over ctowded with slower clients. Even had the isp techs out to do a debug and it came down to the router. Never going back to COTS Soho ap routers. So I'm wondering if it's just time to break out the AP, firewall, and router ubiquity, cisco asa, or upgraded mikrotik hardware. What do you guys think? [1/14/2022 9:45 AM] doug.emes Did you go to rOS v7 yet? [1/14/2022 9:46 AM] doug.emes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/931574969937309696/Screenshot_20220114-094608_MikroTik.jpg?ex=67b9488c&is=67b7f70c&hm=36dec9ba6c70717dfdfed7a476539aab4e8270d503583433644049e069a1d484& [1/14/2022 9:46 AM] doug.emes I'm still on 6.49.x [1/14/2022 1:26 PM] jsnowfreedman anyone know any good like visualization / diagramming as code software? Looking for alternatives to things like structurizer and such. [1/18/2022 4:07 PM] denzuko nope. 6.47.6 (stable) with a level 4 licence. still think its time to change out to better hardware. the RB4011 looks like a good option and I'll slap it behind a cisco 5505 asa [1/18/2022 4:15 PM] doug.emes Check out the RB5009, has 64bit core instead of the 32bit core of the 4011. It does give up having internal wifi. [1/18/2022 4:39 PM] denzuko I was looking at that originally just as much as I'd love to ethernet at this site, wifi is a hard requirement since I cannot cut into the drywall to install new outlets or do mounts [1/18/2022 4:39 PM] denzuko but good suggestion though ๐Ÿ™‚ [1/19/2022 9:50 AM] kenpurcell Kind of interesting project if you need to access web data without "normal" browser based scraping https://woob.tech/ {Embed} https://woob.tech/ woob - Web Outside of Browsers Web Outside of Browsers [1/22/2022 5:53 PM] canibalcrab lights are in for swapping {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/934596705289113630/20220122_175324.jpg?ex=67b91202&is=67b7c082&hm=e2d59b452a617f975723c3943a5b6a2476ee8b141e6ef06ac4307ebc100a0f24& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [1/22/2022 9:52 PM] jsnowfreedman {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/934656893580894218/PXL_20220122_224907880.jpg?ex=67b94a10&is=67b7f890&hm=556c2db1cec49a7969264b1ac5afe3a051a6c5728b1ea10c0b828df92b4f82c5& [1/22/2022 9:52 PM] jsnowfreedman My days work lol [1/23/2022 8:42 PM] canibalcrab the not wiki is broken {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/935001553125933096/unknown.png?ex=67b9398d&is=67b7e80d&hm=49063210cc1fd303bbe792bef0d340329d1198cafd180bf0815acde4b01c7704& [1/23/2022 8:43 PM] skyspook Rebooting it, it'll take about 5 for it to come back up [1/23/2022 8:43 PM] skyspook It's java, so it probably needs a nightly reboot or something [1/23/2022 8:43 PM] andrew5152 hm. I logged in just now... [1/23/2022 8:43 PM] andrew5152 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [1/23/2022 8:43 PM] skyspook ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [1/23/2022 8:44 PM] skyspook You're special I guess ๐Ÿ˜‰ [1/23/2022 8:44 PM] andrew5152 well, that's for sure [1/23/2022 8:44 PM] canibalcrab maybe because i havent been to it in over a month or more? [1/23/2022 8:44 PM] canibalcrab totally fresh load [1/23/2022 8:45 PM] skyspook Nah, 524 is a full timeout - means it couldn't respond. My guess is that it was running out of memory. I thought it might happen eventually, as we're running it a bit light. [1/23/2022 9:14 PM] canibalcrab is now 502 [1/23/2022 9:19 PM] skyspook Up now [1/23/2022 9:19 PM] skyspook Definitely memory leak - getting warnings about it. I'll see about scheduling a daily reboot [1/23/2022 9:29 PM] canibalcrab why are board meetings behind a log in now? [1/23/2022 10:16 PM] jsnowfreedman Oof. What arguments are you starting with ? [1/24/2022 2:09 PM] jsnowfreedman So not sure if anyone here has heard, but AT&T is rolling out its new 2.5 and 5Gbps Fiber internet plans to residential in Dallas area. (I know my apartment is qualified for it). Prices for 5Gbps are 180$/mo. They seem to be trying to simplify their pricing as well, and have supposedly gotten rid of data caps, equiptment fees, and the like. [1/24/2022 3:40 PM] hon1nbo Did they put a data cap on the fiber since it was launched? Historically it hasn't had one, but I haven't been a customer of it for a couple years now. [1/24/2022 3:45 PM] jsnowfreedman I mean it was like in the couple terrabyte of data range... So honestly not really something I could be annoyed at. [1/24/2022 3:54 PM] hon1nbo interesting they even added it; I was on the extremely heavy use side in that ballpark of I think 150-200TB (I mean ~300-odd TB is the limit one could do on a 1gbps line anyway) [1/24/2022 3:54 PM] hon1nbo I used to run some of my F/OSS mirror cluster on the home line because I could without impacting my usage. [1/24/2022 5:05 PM] canibalcrab the wiki alternative is really locked down and a lot of information is not available without a log in, for instance the expelled members list and board meetings. these should be publicly viewable, why arent they? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [1/24/2022 5:05 PM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/935309444638711868/unknown.png?ex=67b906cc&is=67b7b54c&hm=190dfbf29c9198c2f890ebb50fa18eed353e589d40134e039513a6ceb8b28609& [1/24/2022 5:52 PM] hon1nbo Who knows, but a member had to send me my own expulsion notice because of restrictions on information being pushed; needed the notice so that I could even know what "aggressive incidents" I was supposedly being expelled so I could pull up the audio recordings of what really happened. I know other former members that were waiting on committee minutes to show something get repaired/improved before they would rejoin DMS. I can't think of any logical reason that serves the interest of DMS to lock all this behind a members-only wall. It's antithetical to makerspaces as a whole, especially since DMS basically copied the open format of other spaces the same way spaces were doing so off us via the wiki [1/24/2022 8:23 PM] nullinterface not sure what problems that the switch to Jira is addressing at this point [1/24/2022 8:23 PM] nullinterface at least when it comes to org business [1/24/2022 8:25 PM] nullinterface I don't remember the last time I saw BOD agenda items posted for comment and development [2/3/2022 4:58 PM] redbeardedpirate Something something transparency [2/5/2022 3:48 PM] aceat64 there's a REST API somewhere that will return member info when given an RFID tag number, right? anyone have an example output from it? [2/6/2022 8:37 AM] excalbian I couldn't find anything documenting the rest API (and would go so far as to say the code for it isn't in our GitHub) but I did [find](https://github.com/search?q=org%3ADallas-Makerspace+lookupByRfid&type=code) that the endpoint seems to be at http://192.168.200.32:8080/api/v1/lookupByRfid (call that with a payload of "rfid=" + member_id and content-type: "application/x-www-form-urlencoded") so you could get sample output yourself. There was also in the ad-lookup-kiosk [this file](https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/ad-lookup-kiosk/blob/master/app/static/data/member-sample.json) which says it's a sample of the member data returned, but I can't confirm it's still relevant. {Embed} https://github.com/search?q=org%3ADallas-Makerspace+lookupByRfid&type=code Build software better, together GitHub is where people build software. More than 73 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 200 million projects. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GknnCjizMYMXTf7AxtPGiAkqk1cGv6dwIUxYVc4g3cA/https/github.githubassets.com/images/modules/open_graph/github-logo.png {Embed} https://github.com/Dallas-Makerspace/ad-lookup-kiosk/blob/master/app/static/data/member-sample.json ad-lookup-kiosk/member-sample.json at master ยท Dallas-Makerspace/ad... Contribute to Dallas-Makerspace/ad-lookup-kiosk development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Nrt_SU9NqRGNmU8luVNXBmIjpa7aaIvvx6lOt43onEs/https/opengraph.githubassets.com/88e2b2c30606cc7d0568bee5ded5c9978e29e583d41a9cdfccf00f265a715150/Dallas-Makerspace/ad-lookup-kiosk [2/6/2022 1:18 PM] aceat64 thanks for digging into it, I'll try hitting that endpoint next time I'm at the space [2/6/2022 1:18 PM] aceat64 or maybe I can remember how to SSH in [2/6/2022 2:56 PM] excalbian ssh on port 2222 using your DMS credentials to physical.dallasmakerspace.org (`ssh -p2222 username@physical.dallasmakerspace.org` if you're on a *nix-based system) [2/6/2022 3:12 PM] aceat64 Ok cool, I'll try in a bit, thanks again [2/6/2022 3:21 PM] dinkbatt i think the REST API was shoved into "makermanager4" (or 3 idk) so its in the code on the github under that maybe? its the only part of that code that works. [2/6/2022 3:22 PM] dinkbatt so curious which rooms have ethernet working? I sometimes do streaming and stuff and id love to be able to do it at DMS without bottlenecking the wifi [2/6/2022 3:22 PM] dinkbatt i noticed the two front rooms dont have it anymore, which is fine, im sure yall have plenty of things you gotta do overall. need someone to run cable thru the ceiling or w/e ? [2/8/2022 11:31 PM] jsnowfreedman I've noticed some very strange responses sometimes from the lookupByRfid endpoint...: - even if it is a failed lookup (no one exists) the status is still a success with the usual success message - I can append letters onto either side of the tag id, and lookup still find me - I would expect it to be an exact match or complain about invalid RFID [2/13/2022 2:25 PM] robert22 Anyone online that is an admin on MM3? [2/13/2022 2:25 PM] robert22 Maker manager [2/13/2022 2:33 PM] robert22 Does Makermanager4 badge disable work? [2/13/2022 2:40 PM] robert22 Figured it out I was typing the URL makermanager.rfidinterlock.com and seems that is broken [2/15/2022 10:13 AM] canibalcrab {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/943178311096500264/Screenshot_20220215-101339.png?ex=67b94f00&is=67b7fd80&hm=de3c91dba32e60740fc1424c4f82171c04861681456c4570a6fb0b4c6bc6d2da& [2/20/2022 2:30 PM] aceat64 finally got around to testing this and it worked great! thanks again for finding that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [2/20/2022 5:36 PM] aceat64 is there anyway for our moodle setup to show what classes/courses are available without logging in, but not let you take them unless you are logged in? [2/21/2022 11:02 AM] kenpurcell ^ good idea for the moodle homepage [3/25/2022 9:20 PM] nullinterface hm, for me accounts and makermanger are the same. I recall that login also working on the domain. https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/for-the-love-of-god-why-does-every-new-login-create-a-problem/88361 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/for-the-love-of-god-why-does-every-new-login-create-a-problem/88361 For the Love of God why does every new login create a problem I cannot login to my jump drive with my credentials that I use for talk, learn, etcโ€ฆ What do I need to do? Any thoughts. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [3/29/2022 6:35 PM] aceat64 Meeting has started btw: https://meet.google.com/sgm-voyh-sxh?pli=1 {Embed} https://meet.google.com/sgm-voyh-sxh?pli=1 Meet Real-time meetings by Google. Using your browser, share your video, desktop, and presentations with teammates and customers. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GCEsHEuoDTlzmJI_A4QfZk7rhbRzgKpjyZ2wWn9VqrM/https/fonts.gstatic.com/s/i/productlogos/meet_2020q4/v1/web-96dp/logo_meet_2020q4_color_2x_web_96dp.png [3/29/2022 6:37 PM] jsnowfreedman In person will join in a second {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [3/29/2022 6:38 PM] jsnowfreedman Just trying to get projector setup [4/2/2022 4:29 PM] hardsuit Trying to get to the new source website, but it's timing out [4/2/2022 4:31 PM] hardsuit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/959928026500591676/Screenshot_20220402-163019.png?ex=67b8f0a4&is=67b79f24&hm=702c97e4cb00056b028faf5529a8b5f0c47a9d7fb325cc612fccaef5c72548b4& [4/2/2022 5:00 PM] aceat64 down for me as well [4/2/2022 5:00 PM] aceat64 @A. Spencer(jast) [4/2/2022 5:19 PM] andrew5152 looks like it needs a reboot, and I don't think I can get into there... @Skyspook around? [4/2/2022 5:19 PM] andrew5152 eh [4/2/2022 5:19 PM] andrew5152 now's up [4/2/2022 5:19 PM] andrew5152 figures. I give up, it cooperates. [4/20/2022 12:10 PM] michaelb5250 What are the odds that the common room copier is up to printing ~500 pages tomorrow? [4/20/2022 12:31 PM] aceat64 the leased one? pretty good I'd hope [4/20/2022 12:32 PM] aceat64 I know people complain about it, but it doesn't seem to me that it breaks anymore than other printers/copiers I've delt with [4/22/2022 2:03 PM] aceat64 I think there might be something wrong with the session management for confluence? seems like I have to keep logging back in every time I go to it [5/4/2022 1:13 PM] andrew5152 Anyone in here familiar with this "lag" Beth mentions periodically? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/971474552288845854/unknown.png?ex=67b96aee&is=67b8196e&hm=f0e257df56e351672eee7ec00bf3cee2fbabeb61d49da58ecde6dd7d1404b3bb& [5/4/2022 1:19 PM] kenpurcell not aware of that at all?! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ†— [5/4/2022 1:40 PM] aceat64 first I've heard of that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ†— [5/4/2022 1:43 PM] andrew5152 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dynatorch-training-class-inquiry/84854/11 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/welding-plasma-cutting/90365/5 https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/safety-tig-class-request/68008/8 at least these 3 times it's been mentioned... {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dynatorch-training-class-inquiry/84854/11 Dynatorch Training Class Inquiry Iโ€™ve loaded the class. Since itโ€™s my first November class, I set it up for honorarium, so itโ€™ll be 72 hrs (3 days) before you can see it to register. Iโ€™ll post when it goes live. That should be after 8:30 pm on Sunday. Be aware that thereโ€™s a lag when a class first hits the Calendar. Itโ€™ll look open, but if you try to click on it, itโ€™ll say... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/welding-plasma-cutting/90365/5 Welding / Plasma cutting Okay. I just loaded the class. It will take 72 hours from now (1pm 5/4) (thatโ€™s 3 exact days) to show up so that people can sign up. Also, thereโ€™s a small lag (maybe 15 minutes???) from when the class first pops up on the calendar until itโ€™s actually open. Might be less, but that means weโ€™ve got folks who are very quick on the trigger. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/safety-tig-class-request/68008/8 Safety & TIG Class Request Check again Saturday evening. I think around 7:30?? Should be plenty of room in the HP Safety, at least. If it says something about closed, thereโ€™s a short lag between when you can first see the class, and when you can actually sign up for the class. So, give it โ€ฆ ohโ€ฆ maybe 15 minutes or so, and try again. Now, if itโ€™s Sunday, and it says fu... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/I4_EedIDX0BjqrznQWWDFVury0feLFBlQTwMKQACnF4/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f70cced1563c2e6c3aab1a7cbef3cfba5d1983fe.png [5/4/2022 1:44 PM] aceat64 I'm not sure how that would even happen, iirc there's a single datetime field that governs visibility [5/4/2022 1:44 PM] andrew5152 I just have no idea what's up with it. Can ask her where she's coming from, I guess... [5/4/2022 1:50 PM] aceat64 some helpful info to know: 1. Is it only for a class with honorarium? 2. Is there an error message? 3. Does the delay exist for classes that get approved manually or just ones that hit the time limit? [5/4/2022 1:51 PM] aceat64 if it was an hour delay I'd suspect a timezone issue, but 15 minutes is a weird time period [5/4/2022 1:59 PM] andrew5152 I am willing to chalk that up to "people ๐Ÿ™„ " and Beth's method of dealing is one option... [5/4/2022 1:59 PM] aceat64 lol yeah if it's not easily reproducible it could be anything, even just user confusion [7/19/2022 3:21 PM] mrcity @A. Spencer(jast) or any calendar admins, do you suppose it would be possible to switch my reservation for GDG Dallas tomorrow from the lecture hall into the north lobby classroom? https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/18420 North lobby was booked at the time I made the reservation, but now it seems like the conflicting event was canceled. We have a lot of non-members show up and so it would be beneficial for us to be close to the front door. Thanks in advance! [7/19/2022 3:22 PM] andrew5152 Yes. it is done. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (2) [7/19/2022 6:46 PM] mrcity Thanks very much! [7/30/2022 1:46 PM] mrcity Say, does anyone know where the remote control for the Epson projector in the lecture hall is? I don't see it on the shelf [7/30/2022 1:59 PM] jphelps It's always been in that room somewhere when I've used it. I last used it on the 14th and it was there and working normally then. [7/30/2022 2:02 PM] doug.emes time to superglue a neon streamer to it. [7/30/2022 2:09 PM] mrcity Lol turns out I'm just blind, I was looking for a white remote heh {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [7/30/2022 2:09 PM] mrcity Next thing is, where might the streaming cart be? I'm not seeing it in the common room. Maybe someone else is using it [8/8/2022 12:04 AM] hardsuit It's been in the front lobby conference room these days [8/18/2022 6:20 PM] actionjackson6960 Hey guys, how do i join the infrastructure committee? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [8/18/2022 6:28 PM] andrew5152 Connect with that @Evan Lott Evan guy and that @Skyspook Justin guy, get added to the chats, share drives, etc. [8/18/2022 6:34 PM] actionjackson6960 Thanks @A. Spencer(jast) [8/18/2022 9:12 PM] jphelps There should be a monthly meeting appearing on the event calendar for next week some time. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [8/22/2022 2:40 PM] actionjackson6960 Is there a meeting posted? I canโ€™t seem to find it on the calendar. [8/22/2022 3:08 PM] jphelps Not yet, no. @Evan Lott , any updates? [10/2/2022 7:47 AM] mandarlimaye https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/calendar-down-error-code-522/94076 {Embed} https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/calendar-down-error-code-522/94076 Calendar down - Error code 522 The calendar seems to be down right now. See Error code 522. @Team_Infrastructure https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/acDEirudnet8TbttMA518gdWWjQPX-2Z3P-iB6Luy8g/https/dms-discourse-static.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/a/0/a09de5a235ce8f70c0288073b8fb60c4f0b1c008_2_1024x497.png [11/2/2022 9:16 PM] nullinterface anyone ever bought from serversupply.com ? [11/4/2022 11:05 AM] kenpurcell Nope but have bought locally from https://www.theserverstore.com/ [11/6/2022 1:20 PM] hon1nbo The server store is plain awesome. [11/6/2022 6:23 PM] mandarlimaye Any suggestions for a small home server for proxmox (I want to run a windows VM and lots of docker containers). Here's my priorities: - Small size - 1L or bit bigger - Core count ~ 6 with iGPU - RAM - 64 - 128 GB - Power consumption - 45-65W - Budget - 1K (can stretch a bit) [11/7/2022 1:37 PM] hon1nbo Something like a Dell 79xx workstation series from The Server Store is great for home use. Quieter than the server chassis, pretty cheap with good expansion room. I just took a peek and spec'd a 7910 with 2x Xeon E5-2630L V3 8c @1.8G procs, 64GB DDR4 Ram, and a boot SSD for $744 (I always assume I'm loading drives later). Bumping to 128G of ram pushes to a little under $900 However, that draws more power. Each of those procs has a TDP of 60W However, the smaller chassis will probably have a good balance if you like around. There are single proc systems there that I'm sure will fit your specs. On the other hand, you can also probably cram those specs into a NUC nowadays, but small form factor memory will be your limitation in cost and bus capacity. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ (3) โค๏ธ [11/8/2022 9:12 AM] mandarlimaye Decided to go with this combo .. let's see how long it lasts ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/1039558113004617728/image.png?ex=67b940b0&is=67b7ef30&hm=86e050a7fe35ceb97c3020148b68463dfdc8ca2f0a9cdee2ef92a22fb793c67b& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [11/8/2022 9:27 AM] robert22 Anyone experimented with taking a used UPS and converting it to lithium? [11/8/2022 11:29 AM] mandarlimaye What are the benefits of using lithium instead of lead acid in a UPS application? Or do you want to use it as a portable power bank? You would need a completely different BMS? [11/8/2022 11:30 AM] robert22 Primarily the ability to drop to low state of charge without damage to the cell {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ [11/8/2022 11:30 AM] robert22 Also for my purposes lighter [11/8/2022 4:57 PM] kenpurcell I think they make drop in lithium replacements for sealed lead acid by they are spendy [11/8/2022 4:59 PM] kenpurcell damn now ya'll have me looking at replacing some of my cloud servers with actual hardware {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [11/8/2022 7:03 PM] jphelps LiFePO4 has certainly come down in price. [11/9/2022 9:04 AM] hon1nbo I'm holding out for NiFe batteries myself. Drop to bear zero and much higher numbers of cycles available [11/10/2022 7:59 AM] michaelb5250 I remember looking into those for a solar setup a while back, the only options were buying restored forklift batteries from a place in Montana or like one Chinese manufacturer that was making them new. If weight and volume aren't a concern though they seemed like a great choice. [11/10/2022 12:54 PM] jphelps I'm liking flow batteries but that doesn't seem terribly viable for a residential use case [11/13/2022 10:24 AM] mandarlimaye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WI9Nwqvplo {Embed} GreatScott! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WI9Nwqvplo The Fastest Power Bank is Easy to Make with this PCB! (DIY or Buy) Signup for the Onshape Free Plan here: https://Onshape.pro/GreatScott Free Altium Designer Trial: https://altium.com/yt/greatscott! Previous video: https://youtu.be/7f8SliNGeDM Previous Battery Pack videos: https://youtu.be/b2sBhDxmPmA https://youtu.be/hwhqn4BmC2I You can get the shown parts here: (affiliate links) Buy PowerBank: Amazon.com: h... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mMDWs5W4GvM27LvhiycomFzMLQeCuMblPmgitASCVcU/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/_WI9Nwqvplo/maxresdefault.jpg [11/14/2022 2:46 PM] nullinterface So a week later ... all the LFP batteries I see marketed as drop-in replacement for SLA/AGMs feature both ***abysmal*** rated maximum discharge rates and claimed reduced lifespan when charged with SLA chargers [11/14/2022 2:47 PM] nullinterface if you want to DIY it with 18650 cells you might realize better performance {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11/14/2022 2:50 PM] nullinterface I think the market for SLA replacements is mostly the likes of trail cameras and deer feeders [11/14/2022 2:51 PM] nullinterface get into the larger formfactors and trolling motors seem to be another market although I do wonder if peak 2C discharge really cuts it in that field [11/15/2022 9:51 AM] doug.emes https://www.goldenmotor.com/eBoat/frame-eboat.htm - pick your size of LiFEPO4 [11/19/2022 11:56 PM] denzuko Got a challenge for you guys. What's a good low power machines to use for a virtual machine farm (xcp-ng for plan9, k9s, and Windows 10 gaming instances) that is not rpi and can run off a 10amp 12gauge wiring without tripping breakers all the time or being more costly than aws at 18 cents a kwh??? Intel nuc, laptops, or something else? [11/20/2022 8:36 AM] mandarlimaye I recently got this config .. working great so far: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300063050831101952/1043897707460309082/image.png?ex=67b93840&is=67b7e6c0&hm=b348f8ea951e3814c7ccd0beb615f3acecd1f2099a965510c401c7e5771ab9eb& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [1/3/2023 11:18 AM] robert22 Ended up with 2 hours from SLA and I am happy with that [1/3/2023 11:26 AM] nullinterface again coming to the conclusion that replacing SLAs every 24 months is unfortunately the most cost-effective solution at present time ============================================================== Exported 6,763 message(s) ==============================================================