DallasMakerspace - printmaking

Steam roll print moved to May 19, 2019.

Hi yall just to let you know we have our own discord sever of our own at https://discord.gg/YCkBmGj

Invite to join a server

DMS Printmaking

general

@aceat64 ... I can't speak to the specific reason for this specific discord but I would imagine that some people don't like other people and want to be able to set the rules and tone and cannot do it on Talk or here.

We can setup permissions for moderation on a per-channel basis though, I'm a big fan of simplification of communication channels

1:53 AM

Fragmentation decreases the ability to communicate effectively

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What I suggest then is to make that information avaliable to people. One reason that I think people go with something outside is for its equality in ownership. What I mean is that Discord doesn't have a dog in the hunt when it comes to DMS. Facebook groups do not either. But the admins of this server and Talk do. (edited)

1:58 AM

I think people feel that there is a fairness that they can get from having their own server or group outside of DMS, that they couldn't get inside

2:04 AM

But I am with you on the fragmentation... I wish there was a good solution to having independent areas that are on;y moderated and managed by those that create it.

2:04 AM

but under the same thing

2:04 AM

People could easily find and subscribe to the groups they want or create new ones for projects (edited)

2:05 AM

The easiest for most people is create a facebook group or discord server ... they make it simple to do rather than asking permission

Let's take it to #general_chatter

Why have one method of communication when we can fragment into a thousand so no new members know which end is up.

because #DMSTalkIsBad

Shoo! Back to general! This is printmaking. Shoo!

Lol

squatters rights

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3:01 PM

Kermit is up and running!

Nice!

Seriously nice!

6-station press?

Reminds of the days working in a t-shirt shop making concert tees. The promoters used to go in advance a couple of weeks and had most shirts made locally. I often got to wear one on the morning of the concert and everyone asked how the hell I did that. Also used to make the shirts for Fletcher's Corny Dogs. Skip Fletcher was too cheap for an extra screen so we have to hand paint in the tongue. (edited)

Hey all, I want to participate in the t shirt committee class but we want yo have a contest for best logo.

With the effective exit of the two main teachers in Printmaking - Who else around the space can teach some of these classes? Just looking for brainstorming ideas. It's my understanding that the supplies are fairly well stocked there.

@judy Kriehn

Astrud and Paul havent “exited” to my knowledge, but are taking the rest of the summer off. I think the long term plan is to do one month on, one month off. I dunno if any of the serger fiends she has created will pick up that torch for Sewing, but When I talked to Astrud last week, she said that Mushashi is gearing up to take over teaching the silk screen classes. Rose is qualified to teach a few things, but hasn’t worked up the courage to leave the nest just yet. Stephenie will probably take on some of the laser/woodblock classes at some point, but her attention is focused on the finance committee and Nicks senior year of high school at the moment.

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Gorman used to teach the screen printing classes after I stopped

Two months on, one month off

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Thats not bad

Considering Astrud has been teaching an average of 2+ classes a week for most of a year, I don't think it's unreasonable to take a month or two off as a mental break

5:20 PM

Especially since she's ramping up into a new job that started three weeks ago.

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5:20 PM

We'll be back, don't worry.

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It's a much better class than I ever expected to teach when I was doing it

Which one? She has over a dozen different classes...

5:23 PM

T-shirts and totes?

Shit

5:26 PM

I was only teaching how the screen printing press worked and getting some free labor out of it making DMS shirts

Yeah, we have regiggered the T-shirt and totes class to generate a dozen(ish) batch of shirts & totes for PR each time we do it, and will be doing the same for the micro registration multicolor screen printing class

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5:29 PM

Need to come up with a few more multicolor DMS designs

Screen printing is a lot of fun.

anyone up for a dms zine? Would be based around making, indie music, and hacking

Paper or digital?

no reason why we couldn't do both but paper prefered

My inner ecologist hates to kill trees for ephemeral knowledge. Art is different.

12:56 PM

Don’t even speculate how much cotton I have killed.

lol

9:53 AM

the archlogist in me is pondering if they always have lived on deciduous trees or was that an adaptation? Maybe they started to do the longer periods to survive doing ice ages that only lasted 13-16 years which would hint at there being a flora compointent to match

9:54 AM

there's even wasps and fungi that have adapted to be natural predators to them so.. something is there

9:55 AM

sorry, I know.. the weird things my mind ponders about

Reminder: Printmaking Committee election tonight. 7 pm in printmaking committee area.

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I have to help Wayne with a music video shoot. I’m sorry.

1:41 PM

And I like how your mind ponders, @denzuko-at-work (edited)

Printmaking Committee meeting on Monday night @ 7 pm (Aug 19) in Printmaking committee area. Be there or be square.

On siting a lot of items from the studio this Saturday afternoon. So be sure to look out for the donations to Printmaking

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11:00 PM

Steamroller print. Framed at Tom and Lisa's shop, Premier Gallery.

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Beautiful!

Next committee meeting is on Monday, sept 16 at 7 pm

FYI- the electrical work is scheduled to start on or about Thursday n the Flex area, and take 2-3 weeks to complete. The Expansion team has requested that all of the worktables in the middle of the space be vacated and kept that way until the work is complete. With workers up and down ladders above the dropped ceiling, they don’t want to risk having projects or personal property damaged in the process. I would also suggest making sure that printmaking projects are not left out in the committee area anywhere near the south warehouse wall, since the committee is getting several outlets installed there.

The Printmaking chairman election and October committee meeting will be held at 7 pm on Monday, Oct. 21, gathered around the tall table in the Printmaking area.

11:37 PM

FYI, I will not be seeking re-election as chair. I'm passing the virtual brayer to somebody else...

Hey guys is there anyone that may be able to cert me on 3d printing?

Try #3d_fab, printmaking does things like letter press and silk-screening

Oh I see. I may need to utilize the screen printing at some point too though. I've screen printed before but can't remember how to make the negatives for it.

The co-chairs of Printmaking have scheduled a committee meeting for 7 pm on Monday December 2 in the Printmaking area.

@judy Kriehn @Hardsuit where are the rules posted regarding ink and dye that aren't allowed?

That's probably the issue, it's a "known" thing by regulars, and is taught in classes to access equipment, but not posted

3:58 PM

If they bring in everything including their own press, then they won't be aware

well they're using the sink, and it is labelled on the bottle with the aquatic notice.

3:59 PM

having it posted though is going to be important

So I'm still not following why it's prohibited

4:10 PM

Can someone help me understand?

4:14 PM

The stuff cleans up with mineral spirits

It's on the label of the ink that it's hazardous to aquatic life

4:23 PM

You DO NOT flush that stuff down any sink, drain, etc

eh

4:24 PM

thats not how sewers work man (edited)

4:24 PM

and you wouldn't be dumping it down the drain

4:24 PM

you'd be adding soap first....

4:24 PM

this is industry standard stuff

4:24 PM

why the fuss

4:25 PM

everything oil based is "harmful to aquatic life"....

We stopped using mineral spirits at least two years ago

4:26 PM

It's on the label!!!

i'm not hearing a why, i'm hearing "its scary" and "its bad"

You don't put it down the drain, period!

ok, so how do you dispose of it then?

4:26 PM

after usage

Wipe it off with paper towels and put in fireproof trash can It's also highly flammable. Which is ALSO on the label

so is tons of shit at dms

I'll admit we don't have it visibly posted, which we will fix ASAP.

So here's where i sit, you need to put on the wiki a set of rules voted by the committee

4:29 PM

not what used to be

But it's been committee policy and actively taught in classes for years that we don't do non water based inks

There is no committee policy

4:30 PM

tribal knowledge isn't policy

Dude, not your committee

dude

4:32 PM

your not either

4:32 PM

you don't get to say yea verily that something is or isn't

4:32 PM

i'm over people acting as if they get the say when its committee based

4:33 PM

put a set of rules together and vote on them

4:33 PM

then you can tout that its the will of the committee

4:33 PM

until then

4:33 PM

you have no standing for banning anyone or regulating it

4:33 PM

"because its committee policy"

4:33 PM

oh and by the way

4:34 PM

dms members = committee

It's been committee policy AND taught in classes for over two years

THERE IS NO COMMITTEE POLICY

So is the city not monitoring DMS's output? I thought that was what was told to science and that nothing the city would dislike is to go down the drain.

Did we screw up in not posting it? Yes

YOU HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION

Dude

Dude yourself

4:37 PM

You don't get to make up the rules as you go along

4:37 PM

Post it or don't

4:37 PM

but don't expect anyone to back your whining if you don't have a rule set

This isn't making it up as I go along

4:49 PM

Yes, it's not documented

4:49 PM

But that doesn't mean it hasn't been in use for YEARS

4:49 PM

And now that we realize we fucked it up, we'll fix the documents

So think about it logically. How do you expect anyone to adhere to a policy that isn't published

But I'm not making shit up on the spur of the moment

4:50 PM

Did I ask for punishment?

Does it matter?

4:50 PM

You make the claim someone is breaking the rules or policy

4:50 PM

said policy doesn't exist

4:50 PM

it's not as if you haven't been a member for years

4:51 PM

you know this group just as well as I

4:51 PM

As it's been said multiple times, if its not on the wiki, it doesn't exist

4:51 PM

This goes doubly for new members

I mean it's taught in the training; even I knew that just casually observing them. We also aren't expected to make rules for things that can't go down drains anyway

There is nothing that says it can't go down the drain

4:52 PM

That is some made up crap

4:52 PM

Go talk to a print shop

4:52 PM

How do you think they wash the screens off?

It says do on the goddamn ink bottle

4:52 PM

Is this your shit?

Why would I bring ink to the space and leave it?

4:53 PM

I'm tired of seeing this behavior, I'm speaking against it

4:53 PM

Undocumented rules and made up assumptions because things are "scary" or "toxic"

Same here, as far as your continued pedantry

Least I'm not wrong though Paul

4:54 PM

I'm happy to show up and force your hand if you like

So if there isn't a global DMS rule to not pour toxic stuff down the drain, that means all the other committees that dont have a rule against can do so?

@ferricyanide nice try, being a chemist you should know better than being disingenous

4:56 PM

Even a layperson can figure this out

Done here, you do what you gotta do

You know what else has that warning? Laundry detergent and dish soap.

4:57 PM

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018/01/187753/household-products-harmful-aquatic-life

Have You Ever Read The Small Print On The Back Of These Common Hous...

You've probably never noticed this warning on the back of your household cleaning products.

lol its true

I will be in after work to post up the chemical policy

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And it won't be valid until you have a committee meeting and vote on it

And if you take it down I will file a formal complaint with the Board

ooh scary man gonna threaten me

Im being just as ridiculous as you

sorry paul, you aren't gonna bully your way thru this one

4:58 PM

do it right

4:58 PM

or don't do it

4:58 PM

you know the damn rules

4:58 PM

You aren't even the damn committe chair

4:58 PM

which makes it more the laughable

5:00 PM

not that that would fix this, see Max and his rules

Not arguing. You do you. I'll do me

5:03 PM

Dice shall fall as they may.

Man for someone who hates pedants you sure do a good impersonation of one Freddy.

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@michaelb thanks for the compliment

I thought @yashsedai was channeling someone for awhile

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lol

8:59 AM

only myself

@slinkygn (George) re: your question about what non-toxic inks are any good, @Hardsuit may be able to answer here

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2:37 PM

in a little more detail

@Hardsuit doubt you're interested, but... https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/zip/d/anna-free-screen-printing-machine/7185044965.html

screenprinter.pdf

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Free Screen printing machine - free stuff

FREE HIX Manual Screen Press (4 stations/6 color) Has to moved by Sunday 8/30/2020

Any recommendation on budget screen printing paper? I don’t want to go crazy on price, but I would like to get something that can handle some ink being laid down

1:33 PM

https://www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-400-series-printmaking-paper/

Strathmore 400 Series Printmaking Paper | BLICK Art Materials

Strathmore Printmaking Papers were born out of a unique collaboration between Strathmore Artist Papers and the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point. RiverPoint papers are ideal for a wide variety of techniques including relief, lithography, intaglio, screen print, and more.

1:33 PM

Was leaning toward that

Astrud gets packs of paper locally from Clampitt

2:48 PM

Forget exact type, will ask

I am going to try and be at the meeting tomorrow, I didn’t think to ask her. Thanks!

There's a ream package of what Astrud buys in the red cabinet at the space, we can check tomorrow

10:25 PM

Accent Digital cover stock we think, under $20 for a 11*17 ream of 100 sheets

Thank you!