the-usurper-archive/discord-evidence/full_exports/PlainText/DallasMakerspace - Committees - automotive [300062354333368320].txt

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Guild: DallasMakerspace
Channel: Committees / automotive
Topic: The committee routinely meets on the last Wednesday of each month, typically at 7:00 pm.
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[4/16/2017 2:52 AM] slinkygn8306
I'll take first on this channel, what the hey. Anyone want to claim the (I'm guessing) old brake fluid that's been occupying the pneumatic brake bleeder for literally a month at minimum?  Would've just emptied it myself by now if I had a container for brake fluid disposal.


[4/16/2017 10:53 AM] jphelps
I bet you get no takers! On a related note, is it OK to use the red fluid drain stand with transmission fluid?


[4/16/2017 10:55 AM] andrew5152
Yes. Just make sure you take the fluid with you.


[4/17/2017 6:01 PM] slinkygn
I bet I get no takers either!  I'll try to remember to bring an empty from home next time I get down there.  Hopefully the universe will remember this in the future if and when I am the one who forgets something down there and leaves a mess... 😃


[4/17/2017 6:40 PM] alerho
The universe won't sadly Life is like tetris: Your failures build up while your successes disappear...

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[4/17/2017 6:40 PM] alerho
Saw that on Reddit today and seemed fitting.


[4/20/2017 12:35 PM] clone1018
Wonder if a ambulance will fit through our bay doors


[4/20/2017 12:36 PM] clone1018
Been thinking of a new automotive project


[4/20/2017 12:43 PM] clone1018
https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6079396720.html

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[4/20/2017 12:43 PM] clone1018
lift it, 4wd


[4/20/2017 1:05 PM] aceat64
we discussed this in our wasteland weekend group, one of our members is an EMT and strongly suggested bleaching the hell out of it first


[4/20/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
bodily fluids add story!


[4/20/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
what is a wasteland weekend group though


[4/20/2017 1:28 PM] aceat64
http://www.wastelandweekend.com/

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The World’s Largest Post-Apocalyptic Festival


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[4/20/2017 1:29 PM] aceat64
it's like a post apocalyptic version of a ren-faire lol


[4/20/2017 1:30 PM] aceat64


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[4/20/2017 1:30 PM] aceat64
you might see our bus at the space from time to time


[4/20/2017 1:55 PM] canibalcrab
No she said to bleach the hell out of it and she still wouldn't touch it

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[4/20/2017 2:04 PM] tmc42423886
Other than sail area, not a bad storm chase vehicle.  😃


[4/20/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
Jeeze


[4/20/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
I'd cut myself on the grill


[4/20/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
on accident


[4/20/2017 2:50 PM] canibalcrab
You should see the cutting hazard that's the inside


[4/27/2017 2:54 PM] canibalcrab
What's a good choice for oil for a high mileage American car


[4/27/2017 2:55 PM] canibalcrab
I think we did 10w-30 because there was a theory that I had a leak


[4/27/2017 3:16 PM] mr.clark6147
Royal Purple


[4/27/2017 3:17 PM] mr.clark6147
It doesn't matter what kind of car, when asking about oil, the answer is royal purple


[4/27/2017 3:17 PM] mr.clark6147
unless you drive an old VW diesel of some sort, in which case, God have mercy on your sweet soul, because you can only get that crap from the dealership and it's as expensive as printer ink


[4/27/2017 3:20 PM] clone1018
Never even heard of Royal Purple


[4/27/2017 3:21 PM] clone1018
@pearce I've heard conventional is good for leaks because of molecule something or another makes it harder to pass through seals


[4/27/2017 3:23 PM] aceat64
I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my Jeep, but that's mostly because it meets the specs required for my warranty


[4/27/2017 3:24 PM] canibalcrab
I've heard of royal purple. but that it was only for people that wanted to spend more on their car. You definitely overvalued my car


[4/27/2017 3:24 PM] canibalcrab
I'm at 180k on a Buick century. It started falling apart at 80k


[4/27/2017 3:26 PM] clone1018
I read like a 10 page guide of vehicle oil one time


[4/27/2017 3:26 PM] clone1018
came out at net zero


[4/27/2017 3:26 PM] clone1018
I just pick shell normally i think because autozone has a nice special with a filter


[4/27/2017 3:30 PM] andrew5152
I don't know what year, so I guessed. 1994 Buick Century 3.1: recommended oil from Amsoil: 5w30. http://www.amsoil.com/mygarage/vehiclelookup.aspx?url2=1994+BUICK+CENTURY+M


[4/27/2017 3:30 PM] andrew5152
10w30 will be just fine


[4/27/2017 3:31 PM] andrew5152
clean i more important than brand


[4/27/2017 3:31 PM] canibalcrab
2004. The cap says 5w30 too


[4/27/2017 3:31 PM] canibalcrab
10w is just thicker right?


[4/27/2017 3:31 PM] andrew5152
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[4/27/2017 3:31 PM] andrew5152
yes


[4/27/2017 3:32 PM] andrew5152
that means it's 10 weight viscosity equivalent when cold


[4/27/2017 3:32 PM] andrew5152
in Tejas in the summer, the upper end measurement is more important in a multi-weight oil


[4/27/2017 3:32 PM] canibalcrab
Makes sense


[4/27/2017 3:34 PM] mr.clark6147
@pearce : http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf


[4/27/2017 3:35 PM] mr.clark6147
treat your engine right, she'll treat you right


[4/27/2017 3:35 PM] mr.clark6147
love you long time, all that


[4/27/2017 3:39 PM] canibalcrab
That link starts with "anime" and "game" but ends with "cars, oil, and tests" I feel like it's a trap built specifically to lure me in


[4/27/2017 3:40 PM] canibalcrab
I'll have to investigate from a PC


[4/27/2017 3:45 PM] andrew5152
interesting "test". Me, personally? I wouldn't even consider a synthetic for that vehicle (unless it really means more to you than I think it does). I run conventional in my conventional cars, and they've served me well. I collect tons of shit from everyone for my preferred brand, Pennzoil, but it has done me right. Conventional wisdom says Valvoline is the king of the dino oils, for whatever that's worth. But again, I think HAVING oil in the right weight (manufacturer recommended) is step 1. Cleaner is better. After that, it's largely personal preference and brand snobbery. 😯


[4/27/2017 3:47 PM] andrew5152
plus that mag is aussie, so...


[4/27/2017 3:47 PM] mr.clark6147
When you get into high performance/high compression engines, the oil you choose starts to make a big difference. Why there's nothing wrong with running traditional oil in most vehicles, the advantages of the extra stuff in the synthetics becomes more and more useful as the engine ages (both hours and miles) and or you go higher performance


[4/27/2017 3:47 PM] mr.clark6147
old engines have old gaskets and old seals and can use the extra help


[4/27/2017 3:48 PM] mr.clark6147
whereas a new engine is going to run fine on pretty much anything you put into it


[4/27/2017 3:48 PM] mr.clark6147
When you go to the racetrack, literally everyone is running Royal Purple... it really is the best you can get without getting into the stupid expensive stuff for methanol engines


[4/27/2017 3:49 PM] andrew5152
I have no beef with RP. You do see it everywhere. They spend much dinero on advertising.


[4/27/2017 3:49 PM] mr.clark6147
that's actually a newer phenomen, only happened after the dude who invented it sold the company


[4/27/2017 3:50 PM] canibalcrab
I've been trying to get rid of this car for so long. *Shakes fist* I just have to keep it rolling until I do


[4/27/2017 3:50 PM] mr.clark6147
Back in the day, they didn't do any advertising at all


[4/27/2017 3:50 PM] andrew5152
do I want to know the back story on this car? I know it's a running joke (pun intended) about the neglect it suffers...


[4/27/2017 3:51 PM] andrew5152
I do not know what "back in the day" referrs to, but since I've been old enough to care, RP has been a track staple.


[4/27/2017 3:51 PM] canibalcrab
I have a habit of putting off some repairs due to my seemingly always pending "gonna get rid of it"


[4/27/2017 3:52 PM] clone1018
i dont put off repairs but I dont put on them either 😄


[4/27/2017 3:52 PM] canibalcrab
And when repairs happen they usually run to the opposite end of "this should be easy"


[4/27/2017 3:52 PM] clone1018
Fluid changes always happen, timing belt also, others things, meh


[4/27/2017 3:53 PM] clone1018
I lubed the suspension... once...


[4/27/2017 3:53 PM] clone1018
PCV filter? Hasnt broken


[4/27/2017 3:53 PM] clone1018
air filter? LOOKS CLEAN!


[4/27/2017 3:54 PM] andrew5152
I only replace things that need replaced. Kwik Kar'll have you in new air flter every visit if you let'm. Oil & filter, on the other hand, I replace every 3k.


[4/27/2017 3:55 PM] andrew5152
10k on disels with synthetic (but I've not owned one long enough to know if I condone that long-term)


[4/28/2017 8:30 AM] cat_skat.
http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/73-how-step-step/194247-motor-oils-vtx-tapper.html?action=thread

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Motor Oils and The VTX (By Tapper)
VTXOA


[4/28/2017 8:32 AM] cat_skat.
Article I wrote a few years back about motor oils


[4/28/2017 9:38 AM] mr.clark6147
@Cat_Skat what is it with you motorcycle guys and Amsoil? I swear, I know hog guys that maintain that they used Amsoil in the rocket engines to put men on the moon, and had Kennedy's limo been running it, he wouldn't have been shot.


[4/28/2017 10:09 AM] cat_skat.
Ha.  I dunno.  I had a friend that sold it


[4/28/2017 10:10 AM] cat_skat.
After I wrote that, we did a test with 10 bikes, with different oils, taking an oil sample and analyzeing it every 4 months.


[4/28/2017 10:10 AM] cat_skat.
Best oils we tried, were Amsoil and Mobil One


[4/28/2017 10:11 AM] cat_skat.
Some of the newer PAO diesel oils are very good, and have newer detergent packages, so might be some real winners available now


[4/28/2017 4:00 PM] robert22
FYI I happen to be an Amzoil dealer (I don't actively sell it but if someone wants some could likely place an order)


[4/28/2017 4:07 PM] canibalcrab
You have to be a special dealer for it?


[4/28/2017 4:09 PM] clone1018
I'm itching to restore something


[4/28/2017 4:10 PM] clone1018
Need to learn how to paint


[4/28/2017 6:03 PM] canibalcrab
Anyone know if the 2 5 gallon containers on the auto shelf are old? They don't look new that's for sure


[4/28/2017 6:13 PM] canibalcrab
Made a judgement call. It was darker than the oil I got out of mine so I used it as a disposal container


[4/30/2017 10:45 AM] robert22
Nope but it's cheaper if you are


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[5/1/2017 5:42 PM] robert22
Getting ready for the dyno


[5/1/2017 8:49 PM] robert22
Up 60HP


[5/1/2017 8:49 PM] robert22
Cleared 300 which is where I wanted to be

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[5/1/2017 10:34 PM] andrew5152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k

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[5/1/2017 11:06 PM] themitch22
*Only* 300 HP in a 2000lb. car


[5/2/2017 10:01 AM] kenpurcell
At least you have Dyno numbers instead of at the flywheel. Mine 507 RWHP! Now can't afford the tires anymore. 😦


[5/3/2017 11:07 AM] canibalcrab
Still looking for the chair of this committee to join discord. Or maybe a second in command.


[5/3/2017 2:41 PM] clone1018
Alright I've decided


[5/3/2017 2:41 PM] clone1018
I'm buying a Willys


[5/3/2017 2:59 PM] mr.clark6147
That's right up there with the decision you make in college with your buddies that "We should totally open a bar!"


[5/3/2017 3:14 PM] clone1018
Alright I've decided


[5/3/2017 3:15 PM] clone1018
I'm buying a Willys to put in a bar that I'm buying

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[5/3/2017 3:44 PM] cat_skat.
That's a big bump, what did you do to it?


[5/3/2017 7:54 PM] clone1018
Anyone have any unused foam, trying to make a cheap motorcycle seat


[5/4/2017 6:23 PM] slinkygn
That magazine article on oils was soundly debunked just a few months after it was published, btw


[5/4/2017 6:23 PM] slinkygn
The magazine actually posted a retraction and apology regarding the test


[5/4/2017 6:24 PM] slinkygn
Can't pull it up now, of course, since the company's basically dead (website touts the "new issue" which was released in 2015, forum's inoperative, news links don't work).  But every year or two another conversation comes up on BITOG about someone who's stumbled onto the article again.  They've got an excerpt from the apology over there, as well as a few explanations as to why the test is crap


[5/4/2017 6:25 PM] slinkygn
On just about any question regarding any just about any oil for just about any automotive system, BITOG is your friend

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[5/4/2017 6:57 PM] andrew5152
see if this works... https://web.archive.org/web/20090918065559/http://www.streetcommodores.com.au/images/tech/PDF/132oiltech.pdf


[5/5/2017 3:01 PM] slinkygn
👌


[5/5/2017 3:02 PM] slinkygn
A little bit tl;dr for an apology, but I get they still wanted to turn it into a story that made some educational use of the column inches


[5/5/2017 3:03 PM] slinkygn
Though I would've liked a sidebar added with just the Valvoline engineer's quote in there, followed by "this was the biggest of our screwups, in short the test was entirely crap, we're sorry."


[5/5/2017 3:06 PM] slinkygn
Aside: got on here just now because I just got in my car and realized I left the automotive DMM in my car last time I came by. That's getting returned within the hour. Apologies to anyone that needed it while it was gone.


[5/9/2017 9:16 PM] .ladyl
Testing... 😃


[5/9/2017 9:17 PM] .ladyl
Hmmm..... @Dano ~ can you reply to this?


[5/9/2017 9:19 PM] .ladyl
Do we have a scan tool, to check engine codes?


[5/9/2017 9:59 PM] canibalcrab
Yes. Odb2 reader it's in the diagnostic drawer in auto


[5/9/2017 9:59 PM] canibalcrab
Works for cars ~92(?) And newer

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[5/10/2017 1:02 AM] .ladyl
Thanks! I was thinking we did, but wasn't 100% sure.  Dan was asking, but it wouldn't let him post earlier.  I'm guessing just a hiccup or something.  Anyway ~ Thanks again! :D


[5/16/2017 1:22 PM] uglyknees
Silent auction is half way up but won't be live until 10p tonight. Make sure you read everything- lots of info and I'm not done yet. This auction isn't the final bid. Final bid is at the picnic. http://www.32auctions.com/DallasMakerspace17

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[5/17/2017 1:05 AM] canibalcrab
Locked up the lift. It was locked but left in the on position


[5/21/2017 12:11 PM] anandelamaran
@All can someone clarify what would be the difference in taking free vs paid 'Automotive lift class'.


[5/21/2017 12:24 PM] kriskat309685
Just watching is free but you would not be eligible to use the lift.


[5/21/2017 12:42 PM] anandelamaran
kriskat30#9685, won't be able to use it ever without taking that paid class? Just trying to understand. Will take up the paid one mostly.


[5/21/2017 12:45 PM] kriskat309685
Yes that is correct


[5/21/2017 12:45 PM] anandelamaran
Thanks.


[5/21/2017 1:49 PM] anandelamaran
Folks, Having some issue with my registration for Automotive lift class. I initially had free registration done but then I wanted to do paid one so that I can use the lift. I canceled my free registration but couldn't register again, it says my registration has been cancelled and provides no other option to register again. Any suggestions?


[5/21/2017 2:58 PM] kriskat309685
@StanSimmons do you know the best way to see if Ela can re-register?


[5/21/2017 2:59 PM] stansimmons2031
I'll look and see, but probably the best way is to register for a different day, but show up on the original one.


[5/21/2017 3:00 PM] kriskat309685
Or talk to the course teacher


[5/21/2017 3:18 PM] stansimmons2031
@Ela I need a little more to go on to fix the issue... like your name or email or phone and the date of the class you cancelled from.


[5/21/2017 3:20 PM] anandelamaran
email: anandelamaran@gmail.com


[5/21/2017 3:20 PM] anandelamaran
Date of the class: May 15th


[5/21/2017 3:20 PM] anandelamaran
Thanks for the help.


[5/21/2017 3:22 PM] stansimmons2031
May 15th, Last Monday? do you mean May 25th, next Thursday?


[5/21/2017 3:29 PM] stansimmons2031
I couldn't find a way to reinstate the registration, but I was able to re-register by changing the email address. Please go back in at re-register yourself by adding a + and some text to the end of your email name. See http://lifehacker.com/144397/instant-disposable-gmail-addresses for details.

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[5/21/2017 3:37 PM] anandelamaran
Thanks. Yes, May25th. Should I Re register my account with DMS? I am just using my Username 'elamaran' to sign in. Is it possible to may be do a manual sign up for this course? If there is no other option I will try this.


[5/21/2017 3:50 PM] stansimmons2031
No need, I'll be able to fix it on the backend after the class.


[5/21/2017 3:51 PM] stansimmons2031
Just come by the main room after the class and find me. I'm the fat, old guy with a brown ponytail and a red mug with my name on it.

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[5/21/2017 3:52 PM] anandelamaran
😊 nice.. thanks..


[5/21/2017 3:55 PM] kriskat309685
Thank you @StanSimmons


[6/4/2017 2:47 PM] anandelamaran
Hi @StanSimmons, I couldn't meet you other day when I took the class. It was late when we wrapped up and I couldn't find you. can you help fix this registration? I also need to pay. I am at DMS now.


[6/5/2017 12:54 AM] stansimmons2031
Thanks for stopping by earlier, you are in the system.


[6/6/2017 1:19 PM] clone1018
Bought a 2000 jeep grand cherokee, what fun things should I do to it


[6/6/2017 1:19 PM] clone1018
after I fix the coolant leak ofc


[6/6/2017 1:23 PM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland congrats! I have seen people doing lift and better MT tires as a first thing apart from any repair work. What is your intend with it?
I am also looking one as a project car. May I ask how you paid for it?


[6/6/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
I paid $2000, they wanted $2900, the engine and interior are real clean, however the rear passenger door and rear hatch dont open


[6/6/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
I think it's lifted a bit, I like it how it is


[6/6/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
but I might get a sway bar, feels a little light right now


[6/6/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
Tires are next up


[6/6/2017 1:26 PM] clone1018
I wish we had as mounter


[6/6/2017 1:27 PM] clone1018
Discovered a coolant leak on my drive into work this morning so I'll be at the space after 5 fixing/finding it


[6/6/2017 1:27 PM] clone1018
Hopefully it's a simple hose or something


[6/6/2017 1:29 PM] anandelamaran
Sounds like a good deal.. Yeah, Mounter would be a good buy. Hope its just a hose leak.


[6/6/2017 1:29 PM] clone1018
No water in the oil as far as I can tell


[6/6/2017 1:36 PM] stansimmons2031
There is a guy very near the space that does tire mounting and balancing really inexpensively. http://discountautoandtireshop.com/


[6/6/2017 1:37 PM] stansimmons2031
Discount Auto & Tire Shop
2433 Valley View Ln, Farmers Branch, TX 75234


[6/6/2017 1:37 PM] clone1018
Thanks Stan


[6/6/2017 1:37 PM] stansimmons2031
WEEK DAYS:     08:00 – 6:30
SATURDAY:     08:00 – 5:00
SUNDAY:     CLOSED


[6/6/2017 1:37 PM] stansimmons2031
I've used them a few times and have been happy with their work.


[6/6/2017 1:45 PM] clone1018
"One of the more common complaints among Grand Cherokee owners is the amount of sway and body roll that is present. Therefore, it is no secret that one of the first mods that GC enthusiasts perform is to upgrade the stock sway bars to heavy duty performance versions from Addco Manufacturing."


[6/6/2017 1:45 PM] clone1018
crazy how one bar can make that big a difference


[6/6/2017 3:01 PM] clone1018
Wonder what all the junk in the auto bay is


[6/6/2017 3:01 PM] clone1018
Cant tell if someone is working on something


[6/6/2017 4:36 PM] banditbingo
anyone using the bay right now?


[6/6/2017 5:17 PM] canibalcrab
someone was


[6/6/2017 8:28 PM] clone1018
the bay was crazy used tonight


[6/6/2017 8:28 PM] clone1018
had 3 cars packed in there


[6/7/2017 12:01 PM] denzuko
are you guys still interested in the donated PT for a classroom car?


[6/7/2017 3:00 PM] anandelamaran
@Denzuko.sdf.org is it a PT cruiser? It will be useful to have something like this around. Anyways, I let more senior members to add their comments as I am not familiar with training setup in automotive section.


[6/7/2017 3:55 PM] denzuko
yes, an 03 2.0l manual model


[6/7/2017 4:21 PM] clone1018
We must drop a turbo in 😄


[6/7/2017 4:26 PM] clone1018
Really hoping I can nab a bay tonight, working outside was death, couldn't tell what was antifreeze and what was sweat 😅


[6/7/2017 4:26 PM] canibalcrab
currrently open


[6/7/2017 4:26 PM] canibalcrab
how late will you be?


[6/7/2017 4:27 PM] clone1018
5:01


[6/7/2017 4:27 PM] canibalcrab
then i will pull in and do some cleaning


[6/7/2017 4:27 PM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland 😊hope you get one of the two spots inside.


[6/7/2017 4:27 PM] canibalcrab
just let me know when youre here and i can move


[6/7/2017 4:28 PM] clone1018
Haha thanks @pearce


[6/7/2017 4:32 PM] clone1018
2005 Buick LeSabre?


[6/7/2017 4:32 PM] clone1018
I always like guessing cars based on the cameras lol


[6/7/2017 5:03 PM] canibalcrab
04 buick century


[6/8/2017 6:30 PM] andrew5152
@Denzuko.sdf.org  really need to check with Tom. He doesn't come here, that I k now of. Talk will probably work, but not as well as in person...


[6/9/2017 3:43 PM] banditbingo


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[6/9/2017 3:43 PM] banditbingo
do we have one of these


[6/9/2017 4:16 PM] clone1018
Kinda, we have an old yellow one


[6/9/2017 4:16 PM] clone1018
We definitely need one, I break all of them lol


[6/9/2017 4:21 PM] clone1018
It's in the puller drawer


[6/9/2017 4:27 PM] banditbingo
thanks


[6/9/2017 4:30 PM] banditbingo
also, do we have tools and equipment for painting?


[6/9/2017 4:30 PM] banditbingo
I have a primed part that I want to paint


[6/9/2017 4:42 PM] clone1018
DMS is very anti-paint as far as I know


[6/9/2017 4:42 PM] clone1018
We don't have any air tools for painting in auto afaik


[6/9/2017 5:41 PM] banditbingo
thanks man


[6/10/2017 8:46 AM] sonofhammer
Can't seem to find the bicycle wheel trueing stand, anybody know where it's stored?


[6/10/2017 9:25 AM] sonofhammer
Found it!


[6/10/2017 9:30 AM] clone1018
Where was it @sonofhammer ?


[6/10/2017 9:31 AM] sonofhammer
In a wooden box near ryobi chargers. I didnt know it was stored in  wooden box and therefore couldn't find it.


[6/10/2017 9:08 PM] banditbingo
do we have this?


[6/10/2017 9:08 PM] banditbingo


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[6/10/2017 9:09 PM] banditbingo
body hammer and dolly


[6/10/2017 9:20 PM] clone1018
Never seen it


[6/11/2017 11:45 AM] clone1018
Used the borescope today, it was awesome


[6/11/2017 12:59 PM] anandelamaran
All, Anyone having experience in fixing the head gasket of Chevy 4.3L v6 of off a 1993 s-10? I have not done any engine work before but would like to try it now. This is going to be in a project truck that I am planning to by. Seller says he shut the engine off as soon as it started over heating and it seems to be a head gasket issue- coolant in the oil. I am also worried about potential engine damage. Anyway, depends on how much help available here I will decide to by this truck or not. End of the day, I don't want my first project truck to be a failure. Pls share your thoughts.


[6/11/2017 1:12 PM] clone1018
Head gaskets are very straigtforward, it's just like any other gasket replacement but you have to follow the service manual to the letter to ensure proper installation. I would be worried about what else is wrong though. Depends on how much you have to spend on the project


[6/11/2017 1:13 PM] clone1018
You could open up the head and realize the pistons are trashed and you need new valves


[6/11/2017 1:13 PM] clone1018
For me, I only buy working projects because at least I **know** it started at some point


[6/11/2017 1:14 PM] clone1018
I'm at the space often though if you need any help


[6/11/2017 1:19 PM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland  I agree with you on buying a working project. Worst case, I think I may have to rebore the block and put a new piston and stuff. Though it sounds exciting to learn it also sounds haunting. Let me shop around little bit more to find a better buy. thanks for offering to help.


[6/11/2017 1:34 PM] clone1018
1993 is a good year because no emissions tests though 😄


[6/11/2017 2:15 PM] andrew5152
@LukeStrickland it's 25 years, isn't it? So you'd have a few more months on a 1993 to be exempt. (I could be WAAY wrong, though, and would welcome  being corrected with backup links)


[6/11/2017 2:16 PM] andrew5152
http://www.dmv.org/tx-texas/smog-check.php hmm... "older than 24 years"...

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[6/11/2017 4:31 PM] clone1018
Not sure how they count it lol, is it 93 this year or next year


[6/11/2017 5:01 PM] clone1018
Whew okay sold my project motorcycle


[6/11/2017 5:01 PM] clone1018
Now I can dump money into this dumb jeep


[6/11/2017 5:06 PM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland I saw a black GC V9 parked outside just when I left today. Is that your project jeep?


[6/11/2017 5:06 PM] clone1018
If the front bumper was missing, yup 😄


[6/11/2017 5:06 PM] clone1018
It'll be there until friday 🤞


[6/11/2017 5:07 PM] anandelamaran
Yup.. That looked really in good shape. Put on a new radiator?


[6/11/2017 5:08 PM] anandelamaran
*GC V8 I meant..


[6/11/2017 5:08 PM] clone1018
that's friday


[6/11/2017 5:08 PM] clone1018
Friday is new radiator, thermostat and all hoses for the cooling system


[6/11/2017 5:08 PM] clone1018
waiting on parts 😦


[6/11/2017 5:09 PM] anandelamaran
Cool.. I was there Friday afternoon until evening. Probably you worked on it over night.


[6/11/2017 5:10 PM] clone1018
No this friday, the 16th


[6/11/2017 5:10 PM] clone1018
I'll be out in the lot


[6/11/2017 5:10 PM] clone1018
After about 5PM


[6/11/2017 5:10 PM] anandelamaran
Do you order from rockauto. I remember you were also talking about the stiffer sway bar.


[6/11/2017 5:11 PM] clone1018
I haven't yet. I will when I have more time to get parts in


[6/11/2017 5:12 PM] anandelamaran
Good luck.. 👍🏻


[6/11/2017 5:12 PM] clone1018
Thanks


[6/12/2017 6:59 PM] banditbingo
anyone know a painter for auto body? I have a new primed tailgate I need painted black, Toyota tundra


[6/16/2017 12:40 PM] gigner
If one wanted to get trained on the lift and get oriented is there a class? I've not seen one the few times I've looked.


[6/16/2017 12:44 PM] clone1018
There was one last week


[6/16/2017 1:46 PM] gigner
Darn. I'm really good about checking on whether a class is running the week after they happen


[6/16/2017 1:49 PM] gigner
Oh snap there's one on tuesday!


[6/16/2017 2:06 PM] clone1018
Nice!


[6/17/2017 9:03 AM] slinkygn
Last time I was in I had a hell of a time finding the creepers; anyone know where they ran off to?


[6/17/2017 7:01 PM] canibalcrab
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/need-help-with-v8-5-7l-1986-gmc-g3500-chevy-smallblock/22728 cross-posting but i could totally talk about it here too. 

Need help with V8 5.7L 1986 GMC G3500 chevy smallblock, its got a leak somewhere thats pretty slow overall but is enough to cause worry.

Its also got a turbo hydramatic 400 transmission I would like to have checked out to make a 3200 mile round trip to California.

Im no car guy, but we have had issues getting the cruel-bus into shops (presumably because the owner called it a bus when asking about it and they assumed something huge.)

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Need help with V8 5.7L 1986 GMC G3500 chevy smallblock, its got a leak somewhere thats pretty slow overall but is enough to cause worry.    Its also got a turbo hydramatic 400 transmission I would like to have checked out to make a 3200 mile round trip to California.   Im no car guy, but we have had issues getting the cruel-bus into shops (presumably because the owner called it a bus when asking about it and they assumed something huge.)
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[6/18/2017 8:52 AM] clone1018
@pearce I'm not a professional but I can be an extra set of eye / hands. I have no experience finding oil leaks but if it's near the oil pan couldn't you just drop that?


[6/18/2017 9:23 AM] clone1018
Should I risk ebay sway bars


[6/18/2017 10:23 PM] banditbingo


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[6/18/2017 10:24 PM] banditbingo


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[6/18/2017 10:24 PM] banditbingo
donating these to dms


[6/18/2017 10:24 PM] banditbingo
do I need to post on talk too?


[6/18/2017 10:24 PM] banditbingo
I guess I should


[6/18/2017 11:52 PM] merissa4308
I put a short response there, but it's best to get approval from the chair when donating tools to the space.  The process is discussed on the wiki.  It's awesome of you to donate though!  Thank you!


[6/19/2017 11:24 AM] clone1018
Blower motor stopped working on the jeep


[6/19/2017 11:24 AM] clone1018
:((


[6/19/2017 1:45 PM] clone1018
I can't find a single picture of the DMS Space Shuttle


[6/19/2017 2:51 PM] andrew5152
http://findyourfiregrants.com/#projectId=140

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[6/19/2017 2:51 PM] andrew5152
There's one pic...


[6/19/2017 2:52 PM] clone1018
Wait so we won the grant?


[6/19/2017 2:52 PM] clone1018
Just trying to put all this together in my head lol


[6/19/2017 2:53 PM] andrew5152
that is unclear to me. I think we won a lesser prize. I think that's how we got some of the bernzomatics for the JSM area. But I may have my facts wrong...


[6/19/2017 2:54 PM] clone1018
Interesting, do you know where it's stored at now @A. Spencer(jast) ?


[6/19/2017 2:55 PM] andrew5152
No idea. I suspect at the same facility as "offsite storage", but I do not KNOW that.


[6/19/2017 2:55 PM] clone1018
I was there yesterday and did not see it, that's kinda what I'm getting at lol. However I didn't _really_ look


[6/19/2017 2:56 PM] andrew5152
oh yea. Looks like if you go here http://findyourfiregrants.com it shows us as a 2nd prize winner. That's either 7500 or 1500 in bernzomatic products. I suspect the latter, but have never been privvy to the exact outcome.

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[6/19/2017 2:56 PM] andrew5152
yeah. It may not be there. I don't really know.


[6/19/2017 3:07 PM] canibalcrab
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/ford-e350-shuttle-bus-repair/14488

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[6/19/2017 3:07 PM] canibalcrab
Search bus


[6/19/2017 3:13 PM] clone1018
Right, but no actual pictures of it haha


[6/19/2017 3:13 PM] clone1018
Just pictures of parts


[6/19/2017 3:13 PM] clone1018
and a wheel well


[6/19/2017 3:32 PM] canibalcrab
I didn't search farther than that


[6/19/2017 3:34 PM] canibalcrab
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dms-space-shuttle-planning-ideas/14311/7


[6/19/2017 3:38 PM] clone1018
yeah I think I exhausted everythign, the best pic is the one jast posted


[6/19/2017 6:29 PM] clone1018
okay so I have a trailer eletrical brake line, i think. but I can't find the harness???


[6/19/2017 6:29 PM] clone1018
Someone badly installed it


[6/19/2017 6:29 PM] clone1018
hate when people dont heat shrink and solder things


[6/19/2017 6:56 PM] canibalcrab
Good ol wire twist and electrical tape


[6/19/2017 6:57 PM] canibalcrab
That'll hold for like 20 mins


[6/19/2017 7:20 PM] andrew5152
scotchlock FTW, Baybeee!


[6/19/2017 7:38 PM] clone1018
No Scotchlok in sight, just household wire twist ons lol


[6/19/2017 7:51 PM] stansimmons2031
The Death Bus is being stored across the street and 1/2 block north of our offsite storage. @Alex Rhodes has the details.

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[6/20/2017 11:55 AM] alerho
I looked through my photos and I don't have a picture of it either oddly enough.   It is in a fenced in lot like Stan said.   We have a 50'x10' "spot".


[6/20/2017 11:56 AM] alerho
We left the keys in the visor like in the movies.


[6/20/2017 11:57 AM] alerho
There should also be an extra key in the server room.


[6/20/2017 11:58 AM] alerho
Tim and Luke also know how to get in to the storage unit.   Let me know when you want to go look at it and I'll try and take you.


[6/20/2017 11:58 AM] alerho
I can go today after work till 7 or pretty much anytime after 5 tomorrow possibly.


[6/20/2017 1:37 PM] clone1018
Honestly my interest is purely passive, I know I don't have the time for anything extra in the world right now. Thanks though Alex


[6/21/2017 6:52 PM] canibalcrab
I bought a tachometer for the cruel-bus, instructions say its only for a 12v negative ground system


[6/21/2017 6:53 PM] canibalcrab
How do I make sure its 12v- ground without the manual? I assume it is since the interior lights only have 1 wire and use the frame as the 2nd


[6/21/2017 7:07 PM] clone1018
@pearce does the negative battery terminal go to the frame?


[6/21/2017 7:07 PM] clone1018
if so its negative gronud


[6/21/2017 7:24 PM] canibalcrab
Yep, just verified with someone who did battery work on it


[6/21/2017 7:52 PM] clone1018
good to hear, positive ground is unnatural 😃


[6/21/2017 8:46 PM] clone1018
okay so uh noticed the trans had wayyy too much ATF so I used a suction to pull some out... ended up filling a 3 pound coffee container and it's still too high


[6/21/2017 8:46 PM] clone1018
what the fuck do people do to engines and why


[6/21/2017 9:27 PM] anandelamaran
Crazy! I think my car has been overfilled too... I am yet to suck some out of it.


[6/21/2017 9:28 PM] anandelamaran


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[6/21/2017 9:28 PM] anandelamaran
Btw, bought project truck 1988 Ford Ranger. Time to get hands more dirty.


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] clone1018
Exciting, looks like a great truck


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] anandelamaran
It drives though!!


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] clone1018
Yeah?


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] clone1018
Year&*


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] clone1018
1993?


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] clone1018
wait no


[6/21/2017 9:29 PM] clone1018
89


[6/21/2017 9:30 PM] anandelamaran
1988, 2WD 4 cylinder.


[6/21/2017 9:31 PM] anandelamaran
Paint looks crappy.. do anyone know a place which we can use as indoor painting booth. Don't want to mess up my friends garage.


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] canibalcrab
cruel-bus now has a tachometer

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[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] clone1018
Sheet pearce is 4k really the redline


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] canibalcrab
gotta find a skull with a jaw to print to be a holder


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] canibalcrab
shit. probably.


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] clone1018
LOL


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] clone1018
painful


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] canibalcrab
thats just where it was out of the box


[6/21/2017 9:32 PM] canibalcrab
it tops out at like 65mph


[6/21/2017 9:33 PM] canibalcrab
and has a whopping 7mpg


[6/21/2017 9:33 PM] clone1018
10mph SHIFT, 20mph SHIFT, 30mph SHIFT, 40MPH... out of gears, 50 MPH... out of gears


[6/21/2017 9:33 PM] clone1018
@Ela Not sure, never painted anything that large


[6/21/2017 9:33 PM] canibalcrab
hahah its only got D 1 and 2


[6/21/2017 9:35 PM] clone1018
@Ela if you need any help with that let me know, I had a 1991 mazda b2200 which I think is basically the same truck lol


[6/21/2017 9:36 PM] anandelamaran
Oh sure.. thank you..


[6/21/2017 9:37 PM] anandelamaran
Thinking of pulling some parts from a scrap yard. Any good place for this kind of stuffs?


[6/21/2017 9:38 PM] canibalcrab
theres a few on 2nd ave downtown


[6/21/2017 9:38 PM] clone1018
I narrow down my junkyards by doing online research and then using car-part.com and craigslist to figure out if they have the vehicles I need


[6/21/2017 9:39 PM] anandelamaran
Okay sounds good. Will do some search. Thanks guys.


[6/21/2017 9:41 PM] clone1018
@Ela does it look like


[6/21/2017 9:41 PM] clone1018


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[6/21/2017 9:42 PM] anandelamaran
Exactly the same.. is this your Mazda?


[6/21/2017 9:42 PM] clone1018
nah 😦


[6/21/2017 9:42 PM] clone1018
I guess they're different


[6/21/2017 9:43 PM] clone1018
The ford ranger and mazda b2200 merged at some point


[6/21/2017 9:43 PM] clone1018
I forgot when though


[6/21/2017 9:43 PM] anandelamaran
Oops, yes, I see the compressor on left side on my truck.


[6/21/2017 9:43 PM] clone1018
That's a fancy engine, sepertine belt, fuel injection, etc lol


[6/21/2017 9:44 PM] anandelamaran
Looks like it... hopefully it keeps me busy 😉


[6/21/2017 9:44 PM] clone1018
The mazda was accessory belt and carb


[6/21/2017 9:44 PM] clone1018
beautiful but annoying


[6/21/2017 11:53 PM] andrew5152
That's also a v6. 2.9 l to be exact; the small one. the 4 banger, if it is one,  is the venerable Lima Line (LL23) which debuted in the Pinto, and lived a long and happy life in the Mustang and Ranger lineup, eventually bumping to 2.5 litres for the Fordzda Ranger/B2500 until its run was ended in 2001. Helluva motor, with my personal favorite being the turbo as seen in the T-bird turbo coupe, Mustang SVO, and, a personal fav Merkur XR4Ti. The b2200 was a damn fine engine, too, but was all Mazda, and noticably different from the Ranger 2.3.


[6/21/2017 11:58 PM] andrew5152
ford ranger 2.3  http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p217/timsyota/S5300509.jpg

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[6/21/2017 11:58 PM] andrew5152
Mazda b2200 http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/50117051.jpg

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[6/22/2017 6:49 AM] clk9431
@Ela Toss a couple of vinyl lightning bolts on it and call it done. 😉


[6/22/2017 7:56 AM] anandelamaran
Haha! Call it retaining the original look 😃


[6/27/2017 1:51 PM] clone1018
1997 Jeep Cherokee for sale for $350, help me lol


[6/27/2017 1:51 PM] clone1018
Expensive hobby 😦


[6/27/2017 1:51 PM] clone1018
Could totally flip that e-z


[6/27/2017 2:03 PM] anandelamaran
Sounds good.. Send me the link if you are not buying it 😉


[6/27/2017 2:11 PM] clone1018
Apparently he has title problems 😦  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/228831920961061

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Needs alternator 
Transmission needs work but it will run 
Need gone asap
Parts car or project car 
2 wheel drive


[6/27/2017 2:11 PM] clone1018
Would be fun to rebuild the trans


[6/27/2017 2:14 PM] anandelamaran
Not bad at all. Body looks clean except for the rear bumper. Selling the parts alone will make it beyond 350. Of course will be fun to work on it.


[6/27/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
My thoughts exactly


[6/27/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
trans should be simple enough if you want to fix it right


[6/27/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
I want to buy it but I dont want to deal with title drama


[6/27/2017 2:19 PM] clone1018
Nothing worse than sitting in a DMV


[6/27/2017 2:20 PM] anandelamaran
True. That's a waste of time. What's the issue with title? Will bonded title work?


[6/27/2017 2:23 PM] anandelamaran
Btw folks, I have an issue with my 1988 ford ranger 4cylinder. Engine shuts off after driving for about 5miles or so. Looks like overheated. If I keep it sit and cool down for a while, it starts and runs fine. Temp gauge is not functional so couldn't tell if it is cooling system issue. But checked the coolant which looks clean and level didn't drop. Engine oil seems to be clean so don't suspect head gasket leak yet. But planned to check the thermostat- probably will replace it and change the coolant. Also bought a new ignition cool to put on it because the old one looks rusted a bit  and I suspect it could be malfunctioning upon running for a while. Any other thoughts to debug the issue?


[6/27/2017 2:31 PM] clone1018
Hrm, engine shuts off. Can you elaborate on that @Ela ?


[6/27/2017 2:31 PM] clone1018
when are you bringing it to the space :P?


[6/27/2017 2:40 PM] anandelamaran
This is what happened, I started the truck in the morning and I was crushing around 45mph for 4 miles roughly, had couple of traffic signals in between where I stopped. I felt a drop in power and noticed rpm reducing and it started slowing down quickly and I pressed on the clutch to continue to an exit and by the time I exited and engine died. I parked it and tried starting again, it cranked in the first attempt but didn't start. After that it didn't crank at all. So I waited 30mins as I suspected some overheating issue. Then it started and drove for about 2 miles before died again in same manner. I had to get t towed home since I didn't want to damage anything major.


[6/27/2017 2:41 PM] clone1018
Where do you live-ish?


[6/27/2017 2:41 PM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland  Been busy with shifting apartment.  Will try to bring it to DMs this weekend.


[6/27/2017 2:42 PM] anandelamaran
I just moved to Wylie now. But the truck is in Plano until this Friday.


[6/27/2017 2:43 PM] clone1018
Oh pretty far from the space lol


[6/27/2017 2:44 PM] clone1018
My gut tells me that since your temp gauge doesnt work your truck couldn't realize it's overheating.


[6/27/2017 2:45 PM] clone1018
Nor would that year have a mechanism for cutting fuel when it overheats.


[6/27/2017 2:45 PM] clone1018
Hell my jeep will overheat itself until the head comes right off 😛


[6/27/2017 2:45 PM] anandelamaran
It could be possible. But it happened earlier once when I guess the gauge was working. But couldn't say for sure.


[6/27/2017 2:46 PM] anandelamaran
Lol! Take care of it man... 😃


[6/27/2017 2:46 PM] clone1018
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110126

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[6/27/2017 2:46 PM] clone1018
Nah the jeep is 100% fixed right now thankfully lol


[6/27/2017 2:48 PM] clone1018
Should be able to check the relays easiest with a multimeter


[6/27/2017 2:50 PM] clone1018
Your TFI is shared with old mustangs which junkyards are full of  lol


[6/27/2017 2:55 PM] anandelamaran
Thanks for the link. I will check the TFI.


[6/27/2017 2:59 PM] clone1018
Need to find a tow hitch


[6/27/2017 3:03 PM] anandelamaran
That's a good progress... Find a hitch soon... I was looking to bug someone to tow my truck just in case 😉


[6/27/2017 3:08 PM] clone1018
exactly what i want it for lol


[6/27/2017 3:10 PM] anandelamaran
I don't know if I can tow it with my car (2000 Camry v6). I can then get a hitch for my car and rent a uhaul mini trailer meant for vehicle towing.


[6/27/2017 3:11 PM] clone1018
I don't know jack about towing but just pulling a vehicle should be possible with any car


[6/27/2017 3:12 PM] clone1018
I can tow 6,500 lb afaik


[6/27/2017 3:13 PM] anandelamaran
That's a pretty good capacity.. you should offer towing service for a small fee for DMS members.. 😄


[6/27/2017 3:13 PM] anandelamaran
Like me 😉


[6/27/2017 3:14 PM] clone1018
Uhaul seems like the cheapest new hitch vendor, even compared to amazon?


[6/27/2017 3:15 PM] clone1018
Class 3 for $144.95


[6/27/2017 4:05 PM] clone1018
We buying a new space bus 😛 ?


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[6/27/2017 4:29 PM] anandelamaran
Looks like a fun bus... I have been thinking about a van which I can live in and tour for months. It's in my bucket list now.


[6/28/2017 12:00 PM] cfgraf
24 Hours of LeMons Car!!!  Less than $500!!


[6/28/2017 12:42 PM] clone1018
@cfgraf which one lol, the bus?


[6/28/2017 12:42 PM] clone1018
oh the jeep?


[6/29/2017 8:05 AM] maryjane9110
Info Help with engine swap?


[6/29/2017 8:36 AM] maryjane9110
Engine swap with 2007 dodge caliber and also wondering about being able to leave the car right outside the garage if I'm not able to get it running in one night because I already have to have it towed there and happy to give a donation! Also not experienced with cars I just have to do this because I can't afford a mechanic/new car I will be having friends help with labor bit honestly I probably the most knowledgeable about cars between my friends which isn't saying much! and got incredibly lucky because I got the parts for free so really have to do this


[6/29/2017 8:55 AM] anandelamaran
Hi, What I saw in posters recently is that Starting July 1st no vehicle can be parked for more than 48 hrs except for the DMS owned ones. I am not really sure if there will be exceptions. I was originally planned bring my project truck this weekend but now may not do it due to this same reason also I may need more than 48hrs.


[6/29/2017 8:56 AM] clone1018
Let me know if you end up bringing it and are going to hit the deadline. I can tow it to my work a block away


[6/29/2017 8:56 AM] clone1018
cc @Maryjane @Ela


[6/29/2017 8:57 AM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland that's nice of you. Which hitch did you end up buying? Uhaul?


[6/29/2017 8:59 AM] clone1018
Right now my bumper and a tow hook 😄


[6/29/2017 9:03 AM] clone1018
Better than getting towed tho


[6/29/2017 9:56 AM] maryjane9110
@LukeStrickland thank you so much !!! I'll be starting it tomorrow night *doing at night since I heard the garage is busy weekends so likely my deadline will be Sunday (hopefully I finish before then) but thank you again even if you don't need to tow it I can still offer IT help if you ever need it (web development, network engineering, limited python( I can write it just slow) raspberry pi mods or any general tech) I appreciate the kindness so much!


[6/29/2017 10:03 AM] clone1018
I think you'll find a lot more people at the space are willing to help vs talk


[6/29/2017 10:05 AM] maryjane9110
@LukeStrickland thank you!


[6/29/2017 10:00 PM] anandelamaran
@LukeStrickland guess I fixed the issue. Looks like a Ignition coil/controller (TFI) issue. Changed both and ran fine for 15miles without any trouble. Will be test driving it more.


[6/29/2017 11:53 PM] anandelamaran
Thanks for your suggestion.


[6/30/2017 12:17 AM] clone1018
Excellent! Good to hear


[6/30/2017 4:45 PM] clone1018
wonder when that engine is coming out


[6/30/2017 4:45 PM] canibalcrab
It was a bearing that was attached


[6/30/2017 4:46 PM] clone1018
@pearce ?


[6/30/2017 4:46 PM] clone1018
Talking about Maryjane's engine


[6/30/2017 4:47 PM] canibalcrab
No the one from the forums


[6/30/2017 4:47 PM] clone1018
oh


[6/30/2017 4:47 PM] canibalcrab
From the oil change


[6/30/2017 4:48 PM] clone1018
Yeah that engine too


[6/30/2017 4:48 PM] clone1018
but I think soomeone is pulling an engine tonight


[6/30/2017 4:48 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah I'm not sure about that. If her friends want to use tools they need to be members as well


[6/30/2017 5:17 PM] andrew5152
thrust bearing?


[6/30/2017 5:33 PM] canibalcrab
Rod bearing?


[6/30/2017 8:37 PM] andrew5152
Hm. I'm expecting if it was that loud, you wouldn't have been "doing an oil change", but OK... 🙂


[6/30/2017 8:40 PM] canibalcrab
allen said he found it doing the oil change on it.


[6/30/2017 8:40 PM] canibalcrab
he was on one of his "hey do you have a car" benders doing fixing stuff


[6/30/2017 9:08 PM] andrew5152
LOL


[7/2/2017 2:10 AM] canibalcrab
New fuel gauge flails wildly while driving. What's the deal?

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[7/2/2017 2:39 AM] canibalcrab
Hoooooly shit it works

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[7/2/2017 9:20 AM] andrew5152
so what was the solution? (Enquiring minds want to know...)


[7/2/2017 9:21 AM] clone1018
I hope it was hit it a bit 😃


[7/2/2017 4:41 PM] stansimmons2031
Percussive maintenance for the win.


[7/2/2017 4:41 PM] canibalcrab
Well the other gauge was also stuck at half. So we went and filled it up just to see where it went


[7/2/2017 4:44 PM] canibalcrab
Totally filled up correctly. It still wobbles around but James thinks the new after market gauge ($20) doesn't have any kind of historisis (no habla car)


[7/2/2017 7:01 PM] andrew5152
LOL. "Hystorisis" no esta del mundo del automovile! (Now that I've proven I don't know Spanish) that's from the science-y world. No idea what you call them in the car world (or anything outside a lab, I guess...). So...that seems like a long way to say 👍 for interdisciplinary application of vocabulary! Sounds great to me!


[7/2/2017 7:02 PM] canibalcrab
Something to balance out the bobbing the tank would do


[7/2/2017 7:57 PM] andrew5152
yeah. You ought to see the algorithms modern fuel gauges use to try to "smooth out" the fuel gauge. It's CRAZY! Also, doesn't work well when you have a fuel leak that pumps 14 gallons of fuel out in less than 10 minutes...stupid gauge still read 3/4 tank when the triage notes were taken...


[7/2/2017 9:47 PM] clone1018
ok


[7/2/2017 9:48 PM] clone1018
I made a mistake


[7/2/2017 9:48 PM] clone1018
in trying to install this bumper by myself


[7/2/2017 9:48 PM] clone1018
really terrible mistake


[7/2/2017 11:15 PM] canibalcrab
Use the gantry! And ropes! And don't kill yourself


[7/2/2017 11:49 PM] maryjane9110
@LukeStricklandany chance you're up I'm at DMS but my ball bearings are jammed and can't do a strap tow in completely stuck here, I have a truck that can pull but need either a bar, dolly or full trailer


[7/2/2017 11:55 PM] clone1018
No definately not. Jeep is also in pieces right now sorry. @Maryjane


[7/3/2017 12:00 AM] clone1018
You can use jacks to position the car. Can't remember if we have wheel positioners or not


[7/3/2017 12:05 AM] canibalcrab
For alignment? Space doesn't have that


[7/3/2017 6:47 AM] clone1018
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[7/3/2017 6:47 AM] clone1018
Never used one before


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[7/3/2017 9:32 AM] clone1018
never do this alone


[7/3/2017 5:31 PM] andrew5152
Looks like your dawg is not towing his weight... 😆


[7/3/2017 6:41 PM] clone1018
seriously, dang dog


[7/4/2017 8:58 PM] clone1018
its on


[7/4/2017 8:58 PM] clone1018
1mm off though....


[7/4/2017 8:58 PM] clone1018
_brings out the welder_


[7/5/2017 6:54 PM] clone1018
Okay


[7/5/2017 6:54 PM] clone1018
I admit defeat


[7/5/2017 6:54 PM] clone1018
I cannot get this rear bumper on


[7/5/2017 6:54 PM] clone1018
Front is on e-z p-z but rear will be the death of me


[7/5/2017 7:00 PM] canibalcrab
Would the gantry at the space help?


[7/5/2017 7:01 PM] clone1018
We solved the lifting it problem, the problem now is it doesn't mount flush


[7/5/2017 7:01 PM] clone1018
Grinding away any metal that looks like its in the way to no avail


[7/5/2017 7:02 PM] canibalcrab
Had an impact at some point? Frame or mounting points could be bent


[7/5/2017 7:02 PM] canibalcrab
You could make one of the mounting holes larger


[7/5/2017 7:10 PM] clone1018
I'm going to try to bring it to the space somehow....


[7/5/2017 7:10 PM] clone1018
I have limited tools here


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[7/5/2017 7:11 PM] clone1018
crescent moon 😛


[7/5/2017 7:11 PM] clone1018
so tempted to weld it


[7/5/2017 7:20 PM] canibalcrab
Well if you don't need to remove it for access


[7/5/2017 7:20 PM] canibalcrab
Weld it. Drill out a couple of the holes and put the bolts through as well


[7/5/2017 7:41 PM] clone1018
Right, that's good thinking


[7/5/2017 7:42 PM] clone1018
I just heard from the previous owner he mounted it under the tank scraper


[7/5/2017 7:42 PM] clone1018
So I'm going o try that too


[7/7/2017 12:28 AM] actionjackson6960
going to replace all 4 tires tomorrow on my vw jetta. any brand recommendations. also should i get new lug bolts?


[7/7/2017 7:30 AM] andrew5152
size, desired uses, target costs could be helpful for brand recommendation; lug bolts SHOULD be lifetime, but there can be valid reasons for needing to change them. Trying not to sound rude, why do you think you need new lug bolts?

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[7/7/2017 10:03 AM] actionjackson6960
Thanks! Makes sense. I won't need all-weather tires now that i'm back home. I wasn't sure if there was a particular brand that was better than the others regardless of price. As for the lug bolts I didn't know if  I needed new ones or not, that's why I asked.


[7/7/2017 10:04 AM] clone1018
I'm a big fan of tirerack.com and their reviews


[7/7/2017 10:05 AM] clone1018
My theory for tires is never buy the cheapest


[7/7/2017 10:05 AM] clone1018
or the most expensive lol


[7/7/2017 10:06 AM] actionjackson6960
haha ok one more thing. I had a flat tire two days ago and replaced it with my spare. If I'm going to replace all four today should I keep the spare or get a new one?


[7/7/2017 10:07 AM] clone1018
Depends on your budget


[7/7/2017 10:07 AM] clone1018
And the age of the spare


[7/7/2017 10:07 AM] clone1018
also, donut or full size spare?


[7/7/2017 10:09 AM] actionjackson6960
full size


[7/7/2017 10:10 AM] actionjackson6960
i can't remember when I got it though maybe i got the car in 2014


[7/7/2017 10:10 AM] clone1018
I wouldn't worry about it


[7/7/2017 11:05 AM] actionjackson6960
sweet thanks for your help!


[7/7/2017 2:32 PM] jphelps
You can check the side of the tire for the date code and look online to sort out how old it is.


[7/7/2017 3:34 PM] actionjackson6960
I will do that tonight. I just bought new tires, I need to dismount my old tires and mount my new ones. do we have any tools for that at the space?


[7/7/2017 3:36 PM] clone1018
No, we have nothing for mounting or balancing tires


[7/7/2017 3:37 PM] actionjackson6960
all right looks like im paying somebody 😃


[7/7/2017 3:45 PM] clone1018
honestly


[7/7/2017 3:45 PM] clone1018
I used Discount Tire once, got their warranty


[7/7/2017 3:45 PM] clone1018
in the same year I had 3 tire issues  replaced for free


[7/7/2017 4:26 PM] actionjackson6960
thanks i'll check them out


[7/7/2017 9:10 PM] ravennvermore
i have an '05 mini cooper with a manual transmission & it's hard to shift gears. a couple of people have told me it's probably the linkeages... i recently moved here from out of state & not sure who to take it to... any suggestions? i'm over in grapevine


[7/7/2017 9:53 PM] andrew5152
@RavenNvermore  Tom (TLAR on talk) is the man with the connections in the area, especially for BMW/euro cars. I'd see if you can't chat with him. I don't think he Discords at all...


[7/7/2017 10:00 PM] ravennvermore
k, thanks ... what's talk?


[7/7/2017 10:06 PM] canibalcrab
Forums


[7/7/2017 10:06 PM] canibalcrab
Talk.dallasmakerspace.org

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[7/17/2017 1:00 PM] canibalcrab
Bleeder valve was broken when working on the cruel-bus last night. It's in the left bay and will have the caliper replaced tonight after 6 or 7


[7/23/2017 4:09 PM] clone1018
https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6232683233.html


[7/23/2017 4:10 PM] clone1018
I want to buy that for my diesel jeep project. However the listing says no title parts only. Got me thinking what the title is attached to and what I would have to do to retitle it


[7/23/2017 4:14 PM] clone1018
Looks like I supply bill of sale for engine, frame, body and I can get a title with a vin from any component ?


[7/23/2017 5:32 PM] andrew5152
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/buying-or-selling-a-vehicle/bought-a-vehicle-with-no-title


[7/23/2017 5:33 PM] andrew5152
never done it, though...


[7/23/2017 5:34 PM] andrew5152
No VIN on a vehicle prior to 1980/became mandatory in 1981. Though most had serial numbers prior to that...


[7/23/2017 6:18 PM] themitch22
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[7/23/2017 6:19 PM] themitch22
Just assemble it at the DMV with a team


[7/24/2017 8:43 PM] pseudonym01
For oil changes and stuff, should I bring plastic sheeting or do my best not to spill in the first place?


[7/24/2017 8:43 PM] pseudonym01
Or both?


[7/24/2017 9:02 PM] clone1018
Try not to spill it but we have tons of tools to help you not spill and we have tools for when you spill (cat litter)


[7/25/2017 10:51 AM] pseudonym01
Perfect, thanks!


[7/28/2017 11:07 AM] clone1018
Wonder how much for tow truck from Itasca, TX to Dallas


[7/28/2017 11:07 AM] clone1018
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/willys-jeep/6236477876.html


[7/28/2017 11:07 AM] clone1018
😄


[7/28/2017 11:08 AM] clone1018
Really want an old willys


[7/30/2017 3:00 PM] anandelamaran
Folks, I left at the shop a repair manual for 1988 Ford Ranger and Barnco last week on the table next to the tool chest and lift. If anyone found it, kindly leave it somewhere in DMS so that I can pick it up later.


[7/30/2017 9:24 PM] clone1018
Its on the lost and found shelf


[7/30/2017 9:24 PM] clone1018
in the common room


[7/30/2017 10:22 PM] anandelamaran
Great thanks!!


[8/6/2017 5:30 PM] anandelamaran
Thanks @LukeStrickland  found it!!


[8/9/2017 10:38 AM] ezbakedoven
Anybody know of a good place to get a flywheel resurfaced?


[8/9/2017 10:39 AM] ezbakedoven
Haven't found a NAPA or ORiley's around here that will do it


[8/9/2017 12:01 PM] davidkessinger9707
I'd PM Tom Tansey @TLAR for advice.

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[8/11/2017 4:40 PM] clone1018
lol am I seeing a ghost car?


[8/11/2017 4:40 PM] clone1018


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[8/12/2017 1:07 PM] pseudonym01
@TLAR are you at the space by chance?


[8/12/2017 3:07 PM] canibalcrab
Don't think he's on here


[8/12/2017 3:30 PM] davidkessinger9707
Try Talk, he does follow it to some degree.


[8/13/2017 12:23 PM] pseudonym01
Thanks


[8/18/2017 11:19 AM] clone1018
omg


[8/18/2017 11:19 AM] clone1018
a dodge neon for $250


[8/18/2017 11:30 AM] denzuko
thanks but I'm trying to stay away form Mopar. hell I have a 03 pt cruser that I need gone ASAP


[8/18/2017 11:32 AM] clone1018
lol


[8/20/2017 11:52 PM] redbeardedpirate


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[8/20/2017 11:52 PM] redbeardedpirate
Used oil left. They didn't even put a lid on it


[8/21/2017 1:52 AM] davidkessinger9707
They have now left us with a disposal problem.  We'll have to pay for this.


[8/21/2017 8:32 AM] clone1018
I notified Tom on Sat, hes taking care of it on Tuesday I think


[8/21/2017 8:32 AM] clone1018
Shouldnt cost anything if he just takes it to autozone right?


[8/21/2017 9:36 AM] pseudonym01
Correct


[8/21/2017 9:37 AM] pseudonym01
I know for a fact the O'Reilly near the space will accept it free of charge


[8/21/2017 9:37 AM] pseudonym01
Still an unexcellent think to do though


[8/21/2017 9:37 AM] pseudonym01
Thing*


[8/21/2017 9:59 AM] davidkessinger9707
Actually, for a business, which we are classified as, to dispose of hazardous waste other than how required by law is in itself illegal.  Once the material is abandoned at the Space we are responsible for it.  That's if you do anything, or teach a class that say uses chemicals for anodizing, etc. the instructor must remove and dispose of.


[8/21/2017 10:00 AM] davidkessinger9707
Things we as individuals dispose of or take to a municipal disposal collection point we can't.  It sucks, but there it is.


[8/24/2017 8:04 PM] m3tr1k
Did anyone find an orange bag with orange pads & black fabric in it?  I think I left it there last Saturday.


[8/24/2017 8:50 PM] stansimmons2031
Didn't see anything like that in Automotive


[9/2/2017 1:23 PM] canibalcrab
Who took all the ends off all of the air blowers?

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[9/2/2017 1:33 PM] davidkessinger9707
Make them so they can't be used then put them back where they belong.  Very perverse.


[9/2/2017 9:21 PM] winters2914
Anyone know if the baby is available right now ?


[9/3/2017 2:31 PM] jjt1960
I'm keenly interested in becoming certified to use the car lift, but I see no classes for it. Who should I reach out to?


[9/3/2017 7:20 PM] clone1018
Message or create a thread on talk mentioning @tlar


[9/27/2017 9:31 PM] anandelamaran
Does anyone know if we have a body dent puller at space? One that uses screw at the end.


[9/30/2017 10:14 AM] anandelamaran
Folks, can someone gimme a lift to AutoZone nearby? I am working on my car at space now, but need an adaptor to pull the axle out.


[10/25/2017 5:30 PM] shdragon
Would it be cool for me to post about a car I have for sale? It's a neat thing I think a hobbyist might enjoy owning so I wanted to give first crack to members, but I completely understand if we don't want the boards to turn into a collection of classifieds.


[10/25/2017 5:58 PM] canibalcrab
There's a makertrade section on our forum for sellin stuff


[10/25/2017 9:39 PM] shdragon
Oh sweet, I missed that. Thanks.


[2/7/2018 10:34 AM] jjt1960
I drove over some road salt/sand on a bridge today. What should I do to protect the underside of my car?


[2/7/2018 1:40 PM] davidkessinger9707
Take it to a car wash, they-do-it or you-do-it.  The drive throughs are easier and probably do a better job at washing it off.  Sand isn't a problem, salt is.  But sand probably has salt mixed with it.


[3/3/2018 5:21 PM] sonofhammer
Who do i need to reach out to, to get my name back on the approved lift users? I got training some time ago, but then had to take a few months off  from DMS Membership.


[3/3/2018 6:08 PM] andrew5152
Your original instructor would be best to confirm the approval. Tom Tansey (tlar on TALK) is the chair, so ultimately, he needs to be OK with it. He doesn't discord, so in person or TALK is your best bet.


[3/3/2018 6:26 PM] canibalcrab
But we don't usually remove training when people leave, you should still have it


[3/3/2018 7:41 PM] sonofhammer
hmmm, maybe my name never got on the list to begin with.


[3/3/2018 7:45 PM] andrew5152
I am curious what list you're thinking of; as far as I know, there is no "the list" per se (i.e. no lockout or login that doesn't work). It's more of a "if we notice you're not trained, we may have to discuss this" thing. I've honestly never tried to invoke my (alleged) lift privileges, so maybe there IS a list I'm not aware of, outside of Tom's (and his lieutenants') head.


[3/3/2018 7:47 PM] sonofhammer
There's a list on the Automotive Wiki that lists  approved members. The list is only accessible from DMS


[3/3/2018 7:48 PM] sonofhammer
URL as listed on wiki: bit.ly/2pS9wt8


[3/3/2018 7:50 PM] andrew5152
Ah. THAT list. Yeah, that IS the list. I'll stick to my suggestion from earlier, except the way to get onto that list is to submit a request on TALK requesting your instructor to verify your having completed, and then appeal to @Team_Infrastructure to add you to that list.


[3/3/2018 7:51 PM] sonofhammer
Thank you for you help, I'll post on Talk some other day.  Now all I have to do is hope i remember my instructor from August, and my instructor remembers me. lol


[3/3/2018 7:55 PM] andrew5152
Was it on the calendar? This one? https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/3227 If so that COULD make it easier. IF attendance was checked at the time, you could bypass all the memory issues.


[3/3/2018 8:05 PM] sonofhammer
Cross referenced DMS calendar with my own, it  was actually June 15th class, there's an instructor name and everything. That should make it easy. Thank you again  for helping.


[4/9/2018 9:36 AM] clone1018
We're pulling an engine from a ZX2 tonight if anyone wants to see


[4/9/2018 12:16 PM] bara5725
What are yall planning on starting?


[4/9/2018 12:16 PM] bara5725
*When ..


[4/9/2018 12:23 PM] clone1018
6-7ish


[4/9/2018 12:24 PM] clone1018
We did basic stuff last night, radiator, intake, wiring. Tonight's goal is to get the cv axles off and then anything else needed to get the engine out @Bara


[5/14/2018 2:21 PM] canibalcrab
Difficulty scale of replacing the fuel pump on a 95 Jeep Grand Cherokee?


[5/15/2018 8:57 AM] clone1018
You have to drop the gas tank


[5/15/2018 8:57 AM] clone1018
some people grind a hole in the trunk to access it


[5/15/2018 10:49 AM] canibalcrab
That's what in seeing


[6/20/2018 7:18 PM] denzuko
is there someone in Automotive that I can speak with?


[6/20/2018 7:19 PM] denzuko
I got a ben Franklin that needs a home and he likes fast cars


[6/20/2018 10:52 PM] andrew5152
@Denzuko.sdf.org  you may notice there's not much activity from the Auto crowd on Discord. None at all from the chair of the committee, if that's how you're wanting to re-home your Franklin...


[6/20/2018 10:55 PM] denzuko
yep, hes been burning holes so need a receipt for the accountant


[6/20/2018 11:10 PM] blameitontexas
I have a ton of parts to offload. I would give Ben a great home!


[6/21/2018 9:22 AM] clone1018
I dont get what you're trying to do


[6/21/2018 9:22 AM] clone1018
But yeah, I'm the only automotive frequent on discord


[6/21/2018 9:25 AM] canibalcrab
If you want a car that needs transmission work I might know of one that needs to go on the market


[6/21/2018 9:25 AM] clone1018
We bought one last night too


[6/21/2018 9:27 AM] canibalcrab
Another??


[6/21/2018 9:29 AM] clone1018
Yeah


[6/21/2018 9:29 AM] clone1018
We average one a month or so


[6/21/2018 9:29 AM] clone1018
another zx2 actually


[7/2/2018 8:20 PM] jbeiler55
If anyone is willing to help me with a valve gasket change I'd much appreciate it. At the automotive space now


[7/16/2018 7:16 PM] cryhavoc21
I'm on my way to the committee meeting from Plano, I might be a bit late. Just got off work


[7/17/2018 12:40 AM] cryhavoc21
Hey it was  great meeting everyone today at the committee meeting!


[7/18/2018 1:09 AM] cryhavoc21
anyone gonna be in the space tomorrow (wednesday) afternoon/evening? i have some work to do on my car but would love to chill with people if they're gonna be there


[7/19/2018 8:06 AM] clone1018
Allen generally shows up at some point


[7/27/2018 4:54 PM] cryhavoc21
Hey I'm in automotive right now if anyone wants to hang out


[8/7/2018 4:04 PM] shunsui89
Anyone know if there's an 8 or 10in 3/8 socket extension floating around somewhere?


[8/7/2018 5:12 PM] cryhavoc21
I had some trouble finding 3/8ths drivey extensions recently, they may be gone


[8/7/2018 5:19 PM] shunsui89
Found a bunch of small ones to stick together but didn't really want to try and pull a spark plug that way, I'll have to see if I've still got one somewhere


[8/8/2018 9:58 PM] cryhavoc21
lol, i actually did pull spark plugs with three smaller extensions :P


[8/8/2018 10:02 PM] shunsui89
I'm sure it's fine for anyone else but I have negative luck points when it comes to auto work and didn't want to chance it, I'd already cut my thumb open just pulling the handle to pop the hood -_-


[8/8/2018 10:13 PM] cryhavoc21
i getcha man, sorry about the injury. there's band-aids in the first aid cabinet i think


[8/8/2018 10:13 PM] cryhavoc21
actually, do you know how the auto comittee goes about buying tools?


[8/8/2018 10:13 PM] cryhavoc21
cause there is stuff we're missing


[8/8/2018 10:17 PM] shunsui89
Lol yeah I took care of the thumb. No clue, I hate doing auto work so I stay away. They should go over that in their monthly member meetings or ping them on talk using @team_auto or whatever the choice brings up when you type that far and ask


[8/8/2018 10:20 PM] cryhavoc21
makes sense, or i can go to talk page or something. i think there's a lift class sometime soon, where people will be


[8/8/2018 10:20 PM] cryhavoc21
what kind of car are you working on?


[8/8/2018 10:30 PM] shunsui89
08 Hyundai accent, got a misfire in cylinder 4 message the other and it's steadily been running better so I just switched the coil packs on three and four to see if it was the coil/spark plug or just maybe debris or dirty gas


[8/9/2018 7:02 AM] andrew5152
@Havoc  Automotive buys tools like any other committee: Advise the Chair (Tom Tansey, TLAR on TALK) and if it's a simple thing like replacing something broken, he'll buy it. If it's a large thing, the committee will need to decide to spend its money on it. Obviously funds are not unlimited, so the requests need be rational, but Tom's a reasonable fellow in general and tools which benefit the membership at large (i.e. not Toyota owners only) are frequently purchased to improve our cache.

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[8/23/2018 12:54 PM] myblippies
Do we have or can we get an electric ratchet wrench?
https://www.ryobi.com.au/products/details/18v-one-ratchet-wrench-r18rw-0

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[8/23/2018 12:57 PM] andrew5152
We have the impact versions. Although Auto could (and might) buy one, Ryobi purchases usually fall to Logistics, so I'd run it past them. Axeonos is the current chair...


[8/23/2018 12:57 PM] myblippies
@Axeonos


[8/23/2018 12:57 PM] myblippies
WTB Gud Stuff


[8/23/2018 8:58 PM] axeonos
We were able to find one on the show you are more than welcome to come down and use any of our tools thank you


[8/24/2018 8:20 AM] clone1018
@Axeonos DMS does not have any Ryobi Ratchet Wrenches


[8/24/2018 8:21 AM] clone1018
Nor does really anyone in the US, they're Australia only at the moment


[8/24/2018 8:56 AM] talkers
Road trip!

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[8/24/2018 4:31 PM] andrew5152
damn. I thought that emoticon was a Kombi...

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[8/25/2018 12:41 AM] shunsui89
Get some kangaroo leather whole you're there it's supposed to be great and super cheap

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[8/25/2018 1:27 PM] axeonos
@LukeStrickland  @kriskat30 said we do.  Even pulled it out for us.


[8/25/2018 1:27 PM] clone1018
I'm sorry but we don't, we have a right angle drill


[8/25/2018 1:28 PM] clone1018
A ratcheting wrench has significantly more torque


[8/25/2018 1:29 PM] clone1018
https://www.ryobi.com.au/products/details/18v-one-ratchet-wrench-r18rw-0 vs https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/18v-one-plus-right-angle-drill

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[8/25/2018 1:30 PM] clone1018
why dont you trust me lol


[8/25/2018 1:31 PM] axeonos
I never said I didn't. Just saying what Kris told me, and showed.


[8/25/2018 1:31 PM] clone1018
Yeah, she showed you the right angle drill


[8/25/2018 1:32 PM] clone1018
we have an air powered on in auto


[8/25/2018 1:33 PM] axeonos
So if it an Australian item we can't get it can we


[8/25/2018 1:34 PM] clone1018
Yeah, we can't easily buy it


[8/25/2018 1:34 PM] axeonos
Sad


[8/25/2018 1:35 PM] clone1018
I keep seeing it on this Australian youtube channel, i'm very jelly of it lol


[8/25/2018 4:02 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah we definitely don't have that. Would have made some of my repairs way easier


[8/25/2018 5:50 PM] blameitontexas
#automotive I have a ton of different air filters, oil filters, windshield wipers and other random parts and car stuff that I acquired in a bulk store closeout purchase if any one needs any of it. All brand new, never used.  I would like to sell a lot of it in bulk, but will sell some things individually and donate a lot as well. 
#infrastructure  I have even more stuff in this category.  Over 20 smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, programmable thermostats, etc. 
#creative_arts I can donate everything from boxes of different types of paper, paints, different types of drawing and calligraphy sets, sewing tools, fabric.... the list goes on. I have more stuff than you guys would probably even want... not sure who I should get with to decide what would be useful. 
#jewelry_small_metals I am not sure if beads, cord, wire, stretchy/elastic and other random jewelry parts... but I have a ton is so. 

..... decluttering time! Email me at christy.l.rincon@gmail.com for fastest reply if any of this is of interest to anyone!

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[8/25/2018 8:25 PM] gothannie
Wow! That sounds like a haul!


[8/25/2018 9:32 PM] mizgeek
Fabric?!


[8/25/2018 9:32 PM] mizgeek
Sewing tools?!


[8/25/2018 9:33 PM] mizgeek
I do know some of us are updating the CA boxes. Email incoming though [disclaimer] I in no way speak for CA.


[8/26/2018 3:31 AM] blameitontexas
It is soooo much. Too much to begin to list out.  A lot of the stuff listed is just previously hoarded stuff for craft room lol 

The idea on the bulk purchase, of course, was to resell and make enough profit to justify doing it again. 

But it is so much more fun to go through the stuff than it is to sell it!! Lol!


[8/28/2018 3:43 PM] blameitontexas
Did anyone happen to know who I need to go through for this stuff? I want it out of my house! Ha


[8/28/2018 3:45 PM] canibalcrab
You'll probably want to post it in the respective chats, or at least in general.


[8/28/2018 3:45 PM] canibalcrab
Or tag the committee chairs


[8/28/2018 3:47 PM] canibalcrab
You also tagged the chats using the #. Only the @ tags people. Basically you made hotlinks to the channels with the #.
@blameitontexas


[8/28/2018 3:48 PM] blameitontexas
Well damn.


[8/28/2018 3:48 PM] blameitontexas
#everyone!!!! 😃


[8/28/2018 3:48 PM] canibalcrab
:notsure:


[8/28/2018 3:49 PM] blameitontexas
Lol


[8/30/2018 7:26 PM] clone1018
good ol radiator hose


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[8/30/2018 7:39 PM] canibalcrab
It's crying


[8/30/2018 7:50 PM] andrew5152
I immediately go here, for some reason...

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[8/30/2018 7:54 PM] clone1018
hah you think so?


[8/30/2018 7:55 PM] clone1018
someone is knifing lower radiator hoses :P?


[8/30/2018 7:56 PM] andrew5152
Probably not, but that's what it makes me thing of


[8/30/2018 7:57 PM] clone1018
I've had 3 hoses fail before


[8/30/2018 7:58 PM] clone1018
two failed with slits


[8/30/2018 7:58 PM] clone1018
one failed with a giant bulge


[9/13/2018 12:07 AM] canibalcrab
do we have a smoke probe?


[9/13/2018 8:45 AM] clone1018
yes


[9/13/2018 8:45 AM] clone1018
it looks like a paint bucket with hoses sticking out


[9/18/2018 4:26 PM] canibalcrab
There's so many cars that stay at the space.


[9/18/2018 4:26 PM] canibalcrab
And now multiple that stay plugged in at the space


[9/18/2018 4:31 PM] clone1018
😦


[9/18/2018 4:31 PM] clone1018
There's gonna be even more with next door


[9/18/2018 4:38 PM] canibalcrab
And there's beer cans left out from the people throwing knives


[9/18/2018 8:28 PM] gothannie
no please


[9/18/2018 8:28 PM] gothannie
i want to pay for recharge at the space, we need that to happen probably. :c


[10/5/2018 11:35 AM] canibalcrab
I need help with my radiator and cooling. Apparently at some point my dexcool got mixed with regular and my rad foams up every few months. I can't figure out how to completely flush the system to prevent foaming


[10/5/2018 2:52 PM] talkers
Do we have a system to do a complete flush?


[10/5/2018 2:53 PM] talkers
A regular "change" only replaces about 40% of the fluid (according to a vid I watched this week)


[10/5/2018 2:53 PM] talkers
Wait!!


[10/5/2018 2:53 PM] talkers
Sorry. That's transmission.


[10/5/2018 2:54 PM] talkers
A radiator has a simple drainage valve


[10/5/2018 2:54 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah it's the rad. I hooked up a garden hose and ran it through the system both directions for a while and it worked for s few months


[10/5/2018 2:54 PM] canibalcrab
Rad and engine sides


[10/5/2018 2:54 PM] talkers
We have the no leak funnels which are great for refilling.  Let's you burp the air out no hassle.


[10/5/2018 2:55 PM] canibalcrab
I need to get all of the old not dexcool out though


[11/1/2018 5:26 PM] canibalcrab
anyone have a way to get history on a vin number?


[11/7/2018 5:08 PM] nyctalope_hansa
Do we have a timing light?


[11/7/2018 8:22 PM] clone1018
Yes!


[11/7/2018 8:22 PM] clone1018
I have used it semi-recently


[11/7/2018 8:23 PM] clone1018
its in one of the specialty tool boxes


[11/7/2018 9:32 PM] nyctalope_hansa
Thanks!


[11/8/2018 1:02 AM] nyctalope_hansa
No automotive lift class in the calendar.  Is there a way of requesting a class?


[11/8/2018 6:39 AM] clone1018
TALK is the best way, in the automotive category

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[11/29/2018 7:51 PM] canibalcrab
I got a new (used) car from a dealer. They COVERED it with armorall. How do I go about removing it


[12/2/2018 2:57 PM] clone1018
enjoy your beautiful NEW CARRRRRR


[12/2/2018 2:59 PM] canibalcrab
I would if I could keeeeeep my hands on iiiiiit


[12/2/2018 3:01 PM] clone1018
You can either use degreaser, which will /slowly/ microly eat the plastic bits


[12/2/2018 3:02 PM] clone1018
or maybe go to a car wash, mask off the delicate bits, and soak it in the soap, let it eat it and then pressure wash?


[12/2/2018 3:02 PM] clone1018
ftr i have no experience these are just educated guesses


[12/2/2018 3:08 PM] canibalcrab
I don't really care about the outside, but it's a Honda Element so they covered the floors and everything else on the inside. Had someone slip off the floor trying to get into the back. They at least found it funny


[12/4/2018 9:00 AM] aceat64
They did that at the car wash with my rubber floor mats, it was awful. I just washed them with some dish soap and water


[12/4/2018 10:04 AM] myblippies
Take it to them and make them clean it that's rediculous. They just sold u the car they'll do it


[12/4/2018 1:25 PM] aceat64
I think he bought it in LA, bit of a drive


[12/4/2018 1:35 PM] canibalcrab
Lol Arlington, but it's been a bit. Taking it to a dealship to get it checked out, might ask them to try cleaning it


[12/11/2018 3:57 PM] conic
Ok. Roommate jumped my car(I had a dead battery). He now has an 02 sensor error. Mechanic says it's the catalytic converter and is fining him $1500 to replace the cat + the sensors.  

That cost is now being channeled to me on the basis of his thinking that my jump damaged the unit responsible for detecting the cat converter.  I want to defend myself while offering him a means to verify his claims.   P0420, P0456

How should I get started?    
How do you diagnose a system that is supposed to diagnose things?


[12/11/2018 4:10 PM] canibalcrab
Well that's bullshit


[12/11/2018 4:10 PM] canibalcrab
Unless he dragged the connected cables around


[12/11/2018 4:11 PM] canibalcrab
Replacement of the o2 sensor on the cat is easy, cat replacement is also pretty easy on most cars with the lift at the space


[12/11/2018 4:12 PM] canibalcrab
Probably $80-120 for the sensor, 120-200 for a cat replacement.


[12/11/2018 4:14 PM] conic
So that's a relief


[12/11/2018 4:15 PM] conic
How about validating whether or not I fried or damaged his diagnostic unit?


[12/11/2018 4:17 PM] conic
I was thinking that if diagnostic machines were standard. I might just suggest replacing that if it's less than $200  
If the errors still show up after replacement. He re-imburses me the cost.


[12/11/2018 4:17 PM] canibalcrab
That's the o2 sensor


[12/11/2018 4:17 PM] canibalcrab
He thinks you fried his odb2 system?


[12/11/2018 4:17 PM] conic
His argument is that there likely exists machine in the car that gathers sensor information and connects to the odb II port.


[12/11/2018 4:18 PM] conic
Yes.


[12/11/2018 4:18 PM] canibalcrab
Lol


[12/11/2018 4:18 PM] canibalcrab
I believe if the cat is bad enough it will destroy the o2 sensor. But might as well replace both


[12/11/2018 4:19 PM] canibalcrab
It looks like a spark plug that screws into the side of the exhaust


[12/11/2018 4:19 PM] conic
That makes sense. As far as I can tell the CAT is entirely chemical.


[12/11/2018 4:20 PM] canibalcrab
Not really


[12/11/2018 4:20 PM] canibalcrab
It's a big filter


[12/11/2018 4:20 PM] conic
But there is no electronic control unit, or decision making happening. Its pure chemistry/physics.


[12/11/2018 4:20 PM] conic
Correct?


[12/11/2018 4:21 PM] canibalcrab
Poorly explained it uses a special be metal mesh to attract the exhaust


[12/11/2018 4:21 PM] conic
I googled this sort of question directly but... people don't ask it enough.


[12/11/2018 4:21 PM] conic
Yeah. That's what I gathered.


[12/11/2018 4:21 PM] canibalcrab
Yes no smarts


[12/11/2018 4:22 PM] canibalcrab
Cats go bad after certain mileage


[12/11/2018 4:22 PM] conic
He's at 90k which I think is close the average 100k


[12/11/2018 4:22 PM] canibalcrab
If his car is running rich it will kill it faster


[12/11/2018 4:32 PM] clone1018
Damn, I would give him the middle finger and never talk to him again


[12/11/2018 4:32 PM] clone1018
Batteries are dumb


[12/11/2018 4:32 PM] clone1018
O2 sensors are dumb


[12/11/2018 4:32 PM] clone1018
Plug an ODB2 reader into his car and show him the values it reads


[12/11/2018 4:33 PM] canibalcrab
Yep. $20 at Walmart


[12/11/2018 4:33 PM] canibalcrab
P0420 is 02 or cat though


[12/11/2018 4:34 PM] conic
He understands the error codes. He thinks I caused his error code producing system to mess up.


[12/11/2018 4:34 PM] canibalcrab
If the odb reader works then the sensor pulling works and you didnt hurt shit


[12/11/2018 4:35 PM] canibalcrab
Youre just a patsy for the bill here


[12/11/2018 4:37 PM] conic
He thinks hes a patsy for the bill as well.  It's a lose lose.


[12/11/2018 4:38 PM] canibalcrab
Well


[12/11/2018 4:38 PM] canibalcrab
The mechanic is getting paid for his time


[12/11/2018 4:39 PM] canibalcrab
You could do this at the space for 1/3


[12/11/2018 4:39 PM] conic
Oh. I didn't consider the mechanic. So it's a lose lose meh.


[12/11/2018 9:56 PM] conic
Will a busted catalytic converter damage an 02 sensor?


[12/11/2018 10:03 PM] canibalcrab
i think so


[12/11/2018 10:03 PM] canibalcrab
it doesnt filter at all if its bad enough and then the sensor gets cruddy


[12/12/2018 10:18 AM] andrew5152
I can see I"m late to this conversation, but I feel the need to clarify a couple of items: catalytic converter is not a filter, it is a chamber which houses catalyst components and collects heat to aid the conversion of unburned hydrocarbons (fuel which was not consumed as part of the power production) into  less-reactive components such as co2. It has a substrate in it which appears as a honeycomb through which the exhaust flows and the walls of which are embedded with such catalyst components as platinum (why they're so $$). Being catalysts, these chemical components are not consumed during the conversions, meaning a converter theoretically can last forever. But they usually fail due to thermal stress (mostly because they are made to a price point). A bad cat will not "cause" an 02 sensor to fail, though other faults which caused a bad cat might (e.g. running rich). There IS a "brain" or maybe even several in charge of all this stuff: the PCM (powertrain control module, aka engine control unit or ECU, among other names) is the primary unit in charge, and likely the device to which the OBDII scanner is communicating. While you could have fried it whilst jumping, it's highly unlikely. P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold .  P0456 Evaporative Emissions System - Small leak detected. So keep in mind once you're done wrestling with the catalytic system, you might be looking at EVAP system troubleshooting, too. But at the 'Space, folks are willing to help and can probably get it all done for much less than the technician. It'll cost you time, though. 

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[12/12/2018 10:22 AM] canibalcrab
Listen to jast^


[4/18/2019 11:03 AM] nullinterface
channel invasion


[4/18/2019 11:03 AM] nullinterface
assuming anyone follows


[4/18/2019 11:03 AM] aceat64
reposting my spreadsheet here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJ2t7OhP80egEpulO-9x8iTubBHHeByQZSwId7vVTwA/edit?usp=sharing

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Highway,90 miles,90 miles,112 miles,82 miles,100 miles,4x Offboar...
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[4/18/2019 11:03 AM] aceat64
my current plan is buy the Zero S, and then maybe add on the Charge Tank later


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] nullinterface
be nice if there were options beside Tesla for geographically-convenient fast-charging


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] nullinterface
that also didn't charge usury rates


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] aceat64
there's public charge stations popping up all over


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] canibalcrab
Do you think they would care if someone copied their plug?


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] canibalcrab
They released the patents


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] aceat64
I'm fairly sure there's adapters on the market


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] canibalcrab
I guess it's a software check


[4/18/2019 11:04 AM] nullinterface
sure, sometimes they're placed ***brilliantly*** like those geniuses that put them in at Redneck Heaven and wondered why they were never used


[4/18/2019 11:05 AM] aceat64
J1772 is a common plug right?


[4/18/2019 11:05 AM] aceat64
RH has an electric charger? lol


[4/18/2019 11:05 AM] andrew5152
are rednecks not into electric vehicles?


[4/18/2019 11:05 AM] canibalcrab
*laughs in rolling coal*


[4/18/2019 11:05 AM] nullinterface
generally, no

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[4/18/2019 11:06 AM] aceat64
I have a friend who goes there regularly, I should tell him to get an electric scooter


[4/18/2019 11:06 AM] nullinterface
Tesla seems to be the only marquee putting chargers along travel routes in numbers


[4/18/2019 11:07 AM] nullinterface
the others I see in shopping centers are slow-ish chargers not convenient to travel


[4/18/2019 11:08 AM] nullinterface
and also tend to charge some astronomical sum well beyond what the equivalent range in gasoline would cost


[4/18/2019 11:08 AM] andrew5152
most of them are being put in by people with no interest in them actually being used (e.g. VW, whose doing it because they're required to, and wants to put them somewhere noticeable first and foremost)


[4/18/2019 11:09 AM] nullinterface
yeah, whatever VW is doing is pretty invisible as best I can tell


[4/18/2019 11:09 AM] andrew5152
this is everywhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgcJusf280

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[4/18/2019 11:10 AM] nullinterface
yeah, seen it myself


[4/18/2019 11:11 AM] nullinterface
but PR campaigns aren't real-world action in my book


[4/18/2019 11:12 AM] nullinterface
unless that's the point of the VW settlement - to blow the required sum of money then hope they can go back to making diesels and selling expensive expensive spare parts


[4/18/2019 11:12 AM] andrew5152
I wonder who is most active in DFW


[4/18/2019 11:12 AM] andrew5152
https://www.electrifyamerica.com/locate-charger

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[4/18/2019 11:13 AM] andrew5152
cause there's not much here (electrify american being VW's electric charging division, if I understand correctly)


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[4/18/2019 11:14 AM] nullinterface
the point by and large of EV's is to charge overnight at home of course


[4/18/2019 11:15 AM] nullinterface
because a dryer outlet will reliably give you more than standard commuting range over ~8 hours


[4/18/2019 11:15 AM] andrew5152
well. The solar farms work so well overnight...


[4/18/2019 11:15 AM] nullinterface
but apartment dwellers and the like want EVs too and there is a need for 'refills; on the go


[4/18/2019 11:16 AM] nullinterface
news to me ...


[4/18/2019 11:17 AM] andrew5152
also, looks like you're about right, that they're looking to spend their allotment and let whatever happen... https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan

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[4/18/2019 11:17 AM] andrew5152
not that I blame them. But I do wonder if they'll ever go back to diesels, even in the ROW


[4/18/2019 11:30 AM] nullinterface
I'm always confused by the culture war around EVs.  It's blinkingly obvious that it exists, but the intensity of feelings are hard to understand.


[4/18/2019 11:32 AM] nullinterface
sure there are stereotypical hippies insisting that EV's can replace all drivetrains and coal-rollers blocking EV charging stations to make *some* sort of statement


[4/18/2019 11:39 AM] aceat64
From a performance standpoint electric motors are superior in every metric


[4/18/2019 11:39 AM] andrew5152
hm. I saw a "Smith Electric" Frito Lay truck the other day. It intrigued me.  I guess I'm several years behind the curve in knowing about them: 
https://www.cnet.com/news/frito-lay-snacks-on-electric-delivery-trucks/
and their website is dead...
http://www6.smithelectricvehicles.com/
anyway, this is the market segment I'd think electric could make the most inroad: making tractors lighter weight wouldn't even be that hard, their scope is reasonably focused (they do the same thing every day), they don't move that fast and their drivers are accustomed to it, the drive trains in those monsters already weighs a tonne, making battery weight less of a big deal... anyway. I'm sure there are a bunch of reasons they're fairly few and far between, and don't appear  to be the focus of much R&D...

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[4/18/2019 11:40 AM] aceat64
It's really only cost and range where vehicles lose out


[4/18/2019 11:40 AM] aceat64
I'm surprised we don't see sports hybrids


[4/18/2019 11:40 AM] andrew5152
as in SUV "sports" hybrids?


[4/18/2019 11:40 AM] aceat64
Diesel/gas generator feeding a high performance electric motor would be awesome


[4/18/2019 11:43 AM] andrew5152
audi made one some years ago. I don't' think it ever really went anywhere. sub 1.0L diesel feeding an electric motor and battery pack (like a locomotive, but with battery KERS)


[4/18/2019 11:44 AM] nullinterface
Smith Electric doesn't seem to be a going concern any more.  I've seen a few of their short-run delivery vehicles on area highways, clearly shuttling from the distribution center to a local customer.

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[4/18/2019 11:45 AM] andrew5152
and pretty much every manufactuerer of supercars  makes a hybrid super... or did 5 years ago... 
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/g6407/a-crash-course-in-electric-and-hybrid-supercars

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[4/18/2019 11:46 AM] nullinterface
Short-haul where range doesn't matter as much is indeed where I'd expect them to shine - lower TCO realized through reduced maintenance and markedly lower energy cost per mile


[4/18/2019 11:46 AM] nullinterface
BMW i8 is arguably an entry in the supercar category, proving that drivers will indeed manage 2 separate "fuel" sources


[4/18/2019 11:52 AM] andrew5152
if this article be believed, supercars are increasingly becoming hybrid (because the electric KERS RULEZALL apparently...)


[4/18/2019 11:55 AM] nullinterface
(haven't read the article) McLaren's reasoning was perhaps famously *torque filling*


[4/18/2019 11:58 AM] nullinterface
I also gather that supercars have largely gone AWD because the power delivery exceeds what rear wheels can handle


[4/18/2019 12:02 PM] andrew5152
generally true.


[4/18/2019 12:02 PM] andrew5152
also, allows torque vectoring, etc.


[4/18/2019 12:02 PM] andrew5152
the tech is really, really cool.


[4/18/2019 12:03 PM] andrew5152
but the move to video-game-esque experiences has largely ruined "the dream" for me. There's no way I'd spend that kind of money for a car with only 2 pedals, regardless of how much the figures say it's superior


[4/18/2019 12:04 PM] andrew5152
but manufacturers don't care because supercar ownership hasn't been about anything other than show for...well...my lifetime.


[4/18/2019 12:04 PM] andrew5152
there are more poseurs with more money than real drivers with money


[4/18/2019 12:09 PM] aceat64
With an electric motor there's no need for a clutch because there's no transmission at all


[4/18/2019 12:10 PM] aceat64
I'm really interested to see the new "space-x package" roadster with cold gas thrusters


[4/18/2019 12:11 PM] aceat64
There's a limit to how much grip a tire can have, so it kinda makes sense to augment that with thrusters


[4/18/2019 12:12 PM] andrew5152
meh. The thrusters are a fun little media-grabber, but I can't see them ever being useful. But I've been know to be short-sighted, so time will tell


[4/18/2019 12:13 PM] andrew5152
and electric motors will need transmissions, depending on their operating parameters and conditions.


[4/18/2019 12:13 PM] andrew5152
clutches, well, it depends, again, on lots of things.


[4/18/2019 12:24 PM] andrew5152
The smith electric story is pretty sad. They'd been around since the '20s, and in a time when their market should be soaring, they couldn't hold on any longer...


[4/18/2019 12:27 PM] andrew5152
and you're absolutely right, that within normal operating parameters of passenger vehicles, PEV don't need clutches/transmissions. I should have left those replies off, because the edge cases where transmissions/clutches might be used are fairly few and far between.


[4/18/2019 12:28 PM] nullinterface
I've been a 3-pedal bigot forever, but the appeal has finally started to wear out


[4/18/2019 12:29 PM] nullinterface
the ability to manage the speed of shifting that modern supercars require is essentially beyond human capabilities


[4/18/2019 12:31 PM] nullinterface
pretty much every pure electric passenger car I'm aware of has but a single reduction gear, thus "no transmission".  Tesla famously pondered a 2-gear transmission for the Roadster, but found no useful advantages to it thus dropped it early on in the development process.

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[4/18/2019 12:31 PM] andrew5152
m... I'll disagree. The ability to manage the speed of shifting that modern supercar buyers want to be able to brag about is beyond human capabilities. Once flappy paddles hit F1, you knew they were street-bound. But I had hoped, like a dolt, that the buyers wouldn't be there. I was wrong. Because bragging rights trumps an actual good time in your supercar. I should have known.


[4/18/2019 12:32 PM] nullinterface
I wonder what the popular debate was when the motor car began displacing horses


[4/18/2019 12:33 PM] nullinterface
guessing that the facts and specifics were different, but the general sentiments and arguments - re: skill, mastery, effort, whatnot - weren't terribly different


[4/18/2019 12:33 PM] andrew5152
something about grass being ubiquitous and how they'd have to pave everything in site to make it viable...


[4/18/2019 12:35 PM] nullinterface
And it might be heretical, but I suspect that should autonomous cars become viable I won't much miss *driving*


[4/18/2019 12:36 PM] andrew5152
hm. No :bitchslap: found...


[4/18/2019 12:36 PM] andrew5152
but I really do mutter to myself (several times, some days) "and I dislike autonomous cars WHY?"


[4/18/2019 12:37 PM] nullinterface
perhaps you enjoy driving more than most


[4/18/2019 12:37 PM] andrew5152
There certainly lies great appeal in the daily grind.


[4/18/2019 12:38 PM] nullinterface
I might have a quick car by present standards but I feel that it's somewhat wasted on me - I don't take it to track days (or even autocross) nor do I have the skill to drive it under such conditions


[4/18/2019 12:38 PM] nullinterface
pushing it any harder than I presently do on public roads is begging for trouble


[4/18/2019 12:39 PM] andrew5152
There's your problem: a car that's too capable. I say it's better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow


[4/18/2019 12:39 PM] nullinterface
So it's more of a means - that's occasionally enjoyable - than an end of itself


[4/18/2019 12:40 PM] nullinterface
it's not like there aren't a slew of faster cars out there too


[4/18/2019 12:40 PM] nullinterface
I can impose my will on the minivans and CUVs out there, but less so the pony cars and actual sports cars


[4/18/2019 12:40 PM] andrew5152
The wrx is in good company... but it has been leapfrogged a bit since Subaru stopped caring about it...


[4/18/2019 12:41 PM] nullinterface
If they'd made a turbo version of the BR-Z/86 I might have chosen that instead


[4/18/2019 12:41 PM] nullinterface
but they don't and like a lot of cars in that segment it's designed for smaller and younger folks than myself


[4/18/2019 12:42 PM] nullinterface
I test drove one in 2017 and it actually made me **angry** - had to flog it hard *all the time*


[4/18/2019 12:42 PM] andrew5152
yep. they say that was intentional. It's all about the balance and the drift, not the go


[4/18/2019 12:43 PM] nullinterface
although the 'performance' exhaust - that sounded eerily like my 1987 Celica when it had an exhaust leak - likely played a role


[4/18/2019 12:43 PM] andrew5152
but at least subaru FINALLY got direct injection out of the deal. Thank you, Toyota!


[4/18/2019 12:44 PM] andrew5152
some people like the thrub-a-dub of the Subaru flatty. I'm not one of them. And that's soon to go away, I hear.


[4/18/2019 12:46 PM] nullinterface
I gather there's a thriving used market for those


[4/18/2019 12:46 PM] andrew5152
87 celicas?


[4/18/2019 12:48 PM] nullinterface
BR-Z/86


[4/18/2019 1:37 PM] adam1334
Active aero is really the next (actually current) tech that's got me excited for ultra-performance.  A tire can only push so hard against the ground, and until now, most cars have just focused on slipping through the air with the least resistance.  By actively channeling air, you can have another 'surface' to push against to increase handling and or performance.    Thrusters would be great, but I worry about the weight trade-off.


[4/18/2019 2:14 PM] nullinterface
I doubt thrusters will add much if anything


[4/18/2019 2:30 PM] andrew5152
anyone else watched/watching Netflix Fastest Car?


[4/18/2019 4:26 PM] adam1334
Yeah, thrusters can't be expected to do too much without being either solid/expendable or extraordinarily unwieldy and heavy.


[4/18/2019 5:39 PM] andrew5152
elon says he can do it (make them meaningful) with carbon fibre and compressed air... I welcome him to try. It'll be interesting to watch. Kinda like Amazon Drone delivery...


[4/18/2019 6:07 PM] andrew5152
Gees. I'd missed the "flying car" tweet...https://www.thedrive.com/news/25884/elon-musk-says-next-gen-roadster-will-hover-in-the-air-using-spacex-tech

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[4/18/2019 6:08 PM] andrew5152
(which is weird since I'm glued to his feed like...)


[4/19/2019 7:34 AM] nullinterface
So they shift power from motors spinning the wheels to a compressor that occasionally spits out compressed air.  I'm having difficulty imagining that they can produce enough thrust to change things much.


[4/19/2019 7:35 AM] nullinterface
hard cornering, braking seems like the situations that would benefit the most


[4/19/2019 7:37 AM] nullinterface
perhaps some "bleed" air at the tail end to reduce drag at speed?  I know that was a trick Gerald Bull perfected to increase the range of artillery shells, however those tend to be moving a *wee bit* quicker than an automobile.


[4/19/2019 9:15 AM] adam1334
On a side note: When the wife chose the Nissan Leaf (2011 model purchased about 3 years ago) it was reported that the battery pack had been replaced at about 60k miles under a warranty claim.  It's now at 85K miles and just today lost it's first of 12 status bars on the battery.  This will by my calculations reduce the functional range of the car by about 6.5 miles.  Truth is that i'm sure that it's going down constantly due to wear, but today it finally reported the loss.


[4/19/2019 9:38 AM] nullinterface
Were my daily commute not ~60 miles I'd have considered a used Leaf


[4/19/2019 9:39 AM] nullinterface
But with such small packs and a general lack of thermal management considerations relative to most other manufacturers I opted against it since charging at work isn't an option


[4/19/2019 11:18 AM] adam1334
I didn't pick this car, but the wife's driving needs changed shortly after she chose it.  She now drives 60-70+/day whereas my round trip to work is a whopping 22 miles.


[4/19/2019 11:27 AM] nullinterface
Were I interested in the seemingly exciting life of a Tesla owner I could throw down for a Model 3 and even take long trips with it ... but my confidence in Tesla is not that high nor do I want to blow a minimum of $35k on a vehicle


[4/19/2019 11:34 AM] nullinterface
with a couple of supercharger locations along I-30 I might not even have to impose on the folks to let me plug into their dryer outlet for a weekend visit


[5/2/2019 7:59 PM] aceat64
anyone have experience with communication systems for motorcycles?


[5/2/2019 8:01 PM] andrew5152
I don't, but I'm curious what you mean. I presume you mean bluetooth helmet for riders to be able to talk to other riders?


[5/2/2019 8:06 PM] aceat64
yeah, there's a bunch of options out there


[5/2/2019 8:06 PM] aceat64
I was looking at something like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MYB95SX/

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[5/2/2019 8:12 PM] aceat64
I keep waffling back and forth on a new motorcycle too lol


[5/2/2019 8:15 PM] andrew5152
_just get it_


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[5/2/2019 8:17 PM] aceat64
oh I'm for sure getting one lol, just not sure which yet


[5/2/2019 8:17 PM] aceat64
bouncing back and forth between a Zero S and their new SR/F


[5/2/2019 8:18 PM] andrew5152
nobody ever says "I wish it had LESS power...I wish it had LESS range...I wish it had LESS street cred"...


[5/2/2019 8:18 PM] aceat64
so the catch is that the S actually has slightly better range


[5/2/2019 8:18 PM] aceat64
and more aftermarket stuff already


[5/2/2019 8:19 PM] andrew5152
I don't think you'll go wrong either way. Unless electric just isn't for you. Then either is equally wrong, probably...


[5/2/2019 8:29 PM] andrew5152
huh. in fall, you could instead invest $29k into a Harley Davidson...
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/livewire.html
had no idea they were looking to put one to market...

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[5/2/2019 8:35 PM] aceat64
I'm not sure what HD is thinking, they're priced higher than everyone else and with lower specs (last I heard)


[5/2/2019 8:35 PM] andrew5152
hm. yep. fits their usual MO


[5/2/2019 8:35 PM] andrew5152
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[5/2/2019 8:35 PM] andrew5152
but many people still love 'em


[5/2/2019 8:42 PM] aceat64
reading up on the Bosch MSC the SR/F has may have just sold me on it


[5/2/2019 8:45 PM] andrew5152
esta?
https://www.bosch-mobility-solutions.com/en/products-and-services/two-wheeler-and-powersports/riding-safety-systems/motorcycle-stability-control/

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Motorcycle stability control
All-in-one safety systems for two-wheelers
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[5/2/2019 8:47 PM] andrew5152
nifty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON5FhcuAi5E

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Bosch Motorcycle Stability Control (MSC) in action
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[5/3/2019 6:07 PM] nullinterface
I wish I could find that piece on HD about time the leaks on the LiveWire started appearing.  Someone at HD was probably a bit too candid and said something to the effect of *Sure they hate HD management in Sturgis - **but they're not buying bikes anymore** and we still want to be around in another decade*


[5/3/2019 6:13 PM] nullinterface
I see some X'ers buying Harleys but not like Boomers did an Millenials for the most part **aren't** so small surprise they're undergoing a big shift.  Not sure if it will save the company, but they're not going to make it on Softails and Electra Glides.


[5/6/2019 4:36 PM] canibalcrab
I have a weird moon roof on the back of my car, how hard would it be to put a solar panel under it to do some kind of powering for a small cooler or something so I can keep drinks in my car without them turning into boiling footballs

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[5/6/2019 4:54 PM] aceat64
Solar panels behind glass cuts their power output by half or more


[5/6/2019 4:55 PM] aceat64
I think a deep cycle sla battery or li-ion charged by the car would work better


[5/6/2019 6:07 PM] hon1nbo
I just put some Lithium Ferric Phosphate batteries in my car to replace the AGM auxiliary. They have been working great thus far but need to ensure I have a contact probe in the winter since you can kill them charging below freezing.


[5/6/2019 6:07 PM] hon1nbo
They self heat on discharge so it can be fixed easily with a contractor and something to load


[5/6/2019 6:12 PM] aceat64
I just have two odyssey extreme series batteries in parallel because my isolator broke


[5/6/2019 6:16 PM] canibalcrab
That window actually pops out easily


[5/7/2019 11:34 AM] nullinterface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooFWD5w6pXA&feature=youtu.be&t=161

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[5/7/2019 11:40 AM] andrew5152
point of order: 1995 Buick Roadmaster did NOT have a 'steering rack'...


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[5/7/2019 12:44 PM] andrew5152
drives me nuts when people misuse everyday words...


[5/7/2019 12:55 PM] nullinterface
let's get into 'engine' vs 'motor' and how those terms have all but lost their distinctions thanks to corruption


[5/7/2019 1:25 PM] andrew5152
true. true.


[5/7/2019 1:26 PM] andrew5152
this morning's spazz out: tact vs. tack


[5/7/2019 1:26 PM] andrew5152
as in "we need to change our tack if we want different results"


[5/7/2019 1:27 PM] andrew5152
https://grammarist.com/usage/tack-tack/

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[5/7/2019 1:28 PM] nullinterface
https://youtu.be/yUlUPVthdZs?t=126

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[5/7/2019 1:28 PM] nullinterface
a reference that not everyone will get


[5/7/2019 1:33 PM] andrew5152
hm. several references I don't get... 😕


[5/7/2019 1:34 PM] andrew5152
and i was there for the 1994 eagle talon tsi awd


[5/7/2019 1:34 PM] andrew5152
maybe I wasn't there for all the other stuff mentioned...


[5/8/2019 2:26 PM] Deleted User
I think I found the deal of a lifetime on tires


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[6/4/2019 11:16 PM] draco_the_drake
From Rich Meyer

```
Earlier in the week the BoD and I had a meeting with the Leasing Agent for our building. Our current lease does not allow vehicles inside the building. We discussed the extra liability insurance that was purchased a few years ago to allow this activity, but nobody can locate any written agreement to that fact. Then a few days later the Leasing Agent had contacted the Landlord and his answer was no vehicles allowed. Now keep in mind that the building had changed ownership since we moved in over 5 years ago. The search is on for this written documentation. The future of the Automotive Committee is at stake here.
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[6/4/2019 11:18 PM] draco_the_drake
Anyone know where this documentation is?


[6/4/2019 11:21 PM] aceat64
yes, I've already sent it to the board


[6/4/2019 11:21 PM] draco_the_drake
yay!


[6/4/2019 11:21 PM] aceat64
it was in my email

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[6/4/2019 11:23 PM] andrew5152
was it marked "Confidential"?

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[6/5/2019 7:33 AM] nullinterface
the confusion over the *insurance* seems to stem from the fact that the commercial liability insurance is separate from the D&O (Directors & Officers) insurance


[6/5/2019 7:35 AM] nullinterface
the landlord's stance may or may not be related to our insurance.  the commercial liability insurance explicitly allows for automotive work, albeit limited to damage to the facility.


[6/18/2019 3:15 AM] canibalcrab


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[6/18/2019 3:15 AM] canibalcrab
Pulled an RV gas tank tonight


[6/18/2019 3:21 AM] canibalcrab
And that's why

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[6/18/2019 6:07 AM] michaelb5250
You got it to the space?


[6/18/2019 6:19 AM] canibalcrab
It got towed to Midlothian


[6/18/2019 8:41 AM] michaelb5250
Damn, least y'all can get to working on it


[6/18/2019 8:42 AM] michaelb5250
Heres hoping you have a better time finding parts than I do


[6/18/2019 9:07 AM] andrew5152
https://www.highflowfuel.com/i-23901005-genuine-bosch-044-320lph-inline-fuel-pump-0580254044.html + https://www.walmart.com/ip/Zimtown-5-Gallon-Petrol-Jerry-Can-with-Spout-20L-0-6mm-Cold-Rolled-Steel-Gasoline-Fuel-Container-Caddy-Tank-for-Emergency-Backup/496533818 = 😃

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[6/18/2019 9:24 AM] nullinterface
NATO can with one of those despised CARB valves on the spout?


[6/18/2019 9:26 AM] yashsedai
yep


[6/18/2019 9:26 AM] yashsedai
get rid of that CARB valve


[6/18/2019 9:26 AM] nullinterface
mixed reviews


[6/18/2019 9:28 AM] yashsedai
needs a donkey dick


[6/18/2019 9:28 AM] yashsedai
https://www.jerrycan.com/shop/wavian-jerry-can-long-nose-flexible-olive-drab-steel-pouring-spout/

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[6/18/2019 9:28 AM] yashsedai
yes


[6/18/2019 9:28 AM] yashsedai
that is an official military term 😛


[6/18/2019 9:42 AM] andrew5152
doesn't matter. You'll leave that off when you duck the pump to the side and drop a line into the neck to feed it.


[6/18/2019 11:32 AM] canibalcrab
We have to clean the tank now. It had 5+ year old  e85 in it


[6/18/2019 11:32 AM] canibalcrab
45 gallons in a 94 gallon tank


[6/18/2019 11:38 AM] michaelb5250
What's the plan for the 45 gallons of old gas?


[6/18/2019 11:44 AM] canibalcrab
Dunno


[6/18/2019 11:44 AM] canibalcrab
You want?


[6/18/2019 11:44 AM] kenpurcell
https://tenor.com/view/flamsolu-lance-flamme-on-connait-les-solutions-nettoyage-solutions-gif-12432980

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[6/18/2019 11:45 AM] kenpurcell
do you need to keep the tank?


[6/18/2019 11:46 AM] canibalcrab
It's preferable considering the parts are hard to find and identify


[6/18/2019 11:51 AM] nullinterface
I ended up *donating* the ~10 gallons of old gas I had to the city's hazardous waste program

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[6/18/2019 12:02 PM] yashsedai
they have this lovely thing


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
called fire!


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
remove gas from tank


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
remove tank to safe distance


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
add match


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
profit


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
stare at the pretty flames


[6/18/2019 12:03 PM] yashsedai
more profit


[6/18/2019 12:25 PM] lavarocks.
Run from police. Profit.


[6/18/2019 12:28 PM] andrew5152
just make sure the cameras are rolling _before_ doing any of this for max profits...


[6/18/2019 12:28 PM] michaelb5250
Just curious. I had the issue with ~15 gallons from the truck. A few people from the space took it. I was about to have to run it down to the city.


[6/18/2019 12:56 PM] kenpurcell
Our pyro event is not until September but we often use a couple hundred gallons of liquid fuels. We mix diesel and gas for various effects. The wierdest is Coffee Creamer, most dangerous shit in your house. Luckily you only have small containers of it. We use pallets worth. 😉

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[6/18/2019 2:00 PM] hon1nbo
5 gal bucket, powdered milk subsitute for calves (higher fat content, easier to get in bulk), and some meal make for great ground effects.


[6/18/2019 2:12 PM] kenpurcell
Yep we switched long ago as 50lb bags are easier to deal with than 1 gal creamer containers. We did have a source for awhile for powdered shortening. Was very orange/black rolling boil of a fireball. At PGI they have those 220 gallon totes with powdered calf replacement.


[7/2/2019 7:31 PM] denzukoatwork2317
think we can build a 3d printed version?


[7/2/2019 7:31 PM] denzukoatwork2317
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[7/2/2019 7:34 PM] draco_the_drake
Most likely better done with smithing


[7/5/2019 9:38 PM] michaelb5250
It's gonna take me a while to put this back together...

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[7/5/2019 9:38 PM] canibalcrab
use a hammer


[7/5/2019 9:39 PM] andrew5152
proud to say I do NOT recognize that carbonator... What'sit?


[7/5/2019 9:55 PM] michaelb5250
Edelbrock 1406


[7/5/2019 9:56 PM] michaelb5250
It's packed full of rust from a crappy fuel system. Recently 'rebuilt' by a shop. Bet they didn't even touch it


[7/5/2019 10:06 PM] andrew5152
LOL. Sounds about right... Good luck with all that! Yours?


[7/5/2019 10:58 PM] stansimmons2031
god, I remember rebuilding a similar one on my 350 chevy... I paid for the next rebuild.


[7/6/2019 12:12 AM] michaelb5250
Yeah, goes on an old F250 I picked up recently. Hopefully whatever I do is an improvement over what it was.

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[7/6/2019 11:10 PM] yashsedai
lol now now, there is a youtoobs for that


[7/11/2019 4:20 PM] aceat64
The j1772 plug outside is real beat up and got stuck in someone's car, I don't suppose we have a spare lying around?


[7/11/2019 4:23 PM] aceat64
Temporary option is to use the extension I guess


[7/11/2019 4:23 PM] aceat64
The connector mostly works it just doesn't latch and unlatch well, so in theory connecting it to the extension should be fine


[7/11/2019 4:44 PM] stansimmons2031
Sounds like a plan. When purse strings aren't so tight we can replace theJ1772


[7/11/2019 4:52 PM] adam1334
Yeah, it has stopped functioning altogether in my Leaf.  Not really a big deal as I don't live far, but it was convenient for a while.


[7/11/2019 4:53 PM] adam1334
They appear to be around the $70 mark for the future purchase.


[7/14/2019 7:24 PM] hon1nbo
Reminder to automotive users, that portacool is owned by DMS. It's home is either the former Hatchers or the electrical room depending on space availability.


[7/15/2019 12:53 AM] draco_the_drake
There is no such thing as a former Hatcher's yet.  It is Hatchers and someone needs to get an OK from the committee to store things in a committee space.


[7/15/2019 9:20 AM] hon1nbo
Sorry I had been instructed to use that room previously; electrical room it is then.


[7/15/2019 5:47 PM] nullinterface
ah, Regular Cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwj_E3Fygms&feature=youtu.be&t=59

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[7/15/2019 6:22 PM] adam1334
Currently RCR is my favorite automotive reviewer.


[7/16/2019 8:52 PM] nullinterface
part car review, part performance art, part cultural critic


[7/16/2019 11:16 PM] michaelb5250
@StanSimmons get any good stories about the layout drawing mystery?


[7/16/2019 11:17 PM] michaelb5250
I mean, committee areas have been taped. This must exist somewhere...


[7/24/2019 10:11 AM] nullinterface
so yeah the Ford electric F-150 video was an interesting stunt, but it was indeed a *stunt*


[7/24/2019 10:12 AM] nullinterface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg

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[7/24/2019 10:14 AM] nullinterface
if there were such a thing as zero rolling resistance, a single person pulling on the cars with a string could get them moving slowly so long as they didn't break the string.  but since rolling resistance is real, there's a minimum force required to *get things started* and keep them moving.


[7/24/2019 10:15 AM] nullinterface
minimizing rolling resistance is **the** reason for railroads in the first place


[7/24/2019 10:16 AM] michaelb5250
To your point of steel on steel, car and driver reports that they also flat towed the F150s first, before loading them onto the rail cars.


[7/24/2019 10:22 AM] nullinterface
interesting - probably more rolling resistance on that tow than the railcars


[7/24/2019 10:23 AM] nullinterface
however I suspect the main *pay no attention to the man behind the curtain* trickery was a **software setting** in the motor power electronics to limit power delivery to the truck's motor so it didn't exceed the tow strap's tensile strength


[7/24/2019 10:26 AM] nullinterface
I'm sure that Ford's marketing people made a smart play with this *demonstration*


[7/24/2019 10:27 AM] nullinterface
the fact that locomotives have been diesel-electric for 60+ years seems to be lost on the market segment they're appealing to


[7/25/2019 1:14 AM] michaelb5250
So who's going to schedule the chair election? Is the board expecting Tom to set it up?


[7/25/2019 5:35 AM] andrew5152
Last I chatted with Tom, he was still acting chair, so I reckon he's expecting to set it up (and I suppose he thinks the BoD is expecting him to). But I could be wrong...


[7/25/2019 7:26 AM] nullinterface
Automotive requested to elect a new chair.  Tom agreed to be provisional chair.  Implicit: BoD will not confirm Joe King, thus he should not run for Auto chair.


[7/25/2019 8:33 AM] michaelb5250
Can't wait to see how this turns out


[7/25/2019 8:37 AM] nullinterface
it'll be exciting


[8/4/2019 12:48 AM] canibalcrab
SUCCESS. WE GOT THE RV RUNNING


[8/4/2019 12:53 AM] aceat64
Bonus points, it did not catch fire


[8/5/2019 7:35 AM] nullinterface
normally a good thing


[8/8/2019 3:01 PM] canibalcrab
As fast as these guys are here at the AAA discount tire and auto. They sure are angry with each other


[8/8/2019 3:19 PM] yashsedai
Oh?


[8/8/2019 3:19 PM] canibalcrab
Can't get rid of me that easily

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[8/8/2019 3:20 PM] yashsedai
Lololol


[8/8/2019 3:25 PM] canibalcrab


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[8/8/2019 3:31 PM] aceat64
lol fake battery as cellphone charger?


[8/8/2019 3:33 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah has a plug


[8/8/2019 3:34 PM] canibalcrab
But cool way to do it for a Firestone


[8/8/2019 9:51 PM] canibalcrab


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[8/9/2019 7:06 AM] kenpurcell
Well that is utilization at capacity


[8/9/2019 6:50 PM] michaelb5250


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[8/9/2019 6:50 PM] michaelb5250
Decided to get rid of the camper top. It was a sudden decision, a real turn from my previous plans.


[8/9/2019 7:05 PM] aceat64
You're really proving the saying: shit happens.... to michael


[8/9/2019 7:31 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah I think if you say something enough it becomes true.


[8/9/2019 7:31 PM] michaelb5250
I really wish they would stop saying that


[8/9/2019 7:33 PM] canibalcrab
Suddenly gas savings


[8/9/2019 7:41 PM] michaelb5250
True. It also motivates me to clean out the bed.


[8/9/2019 8:02 PM] canibalcrab
A sudden acceleration could help with that


[8/9/2019 8:19 PM] michaelb5250
There are many things this truck is incapable of, sudden acceleration is one of them.

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[8/9/2019 9:01 PM] aceat64
I hope sudden deceleration is though


[8/9/2019 10:33 PM] michaelb5250
It's surprisingly good at that


[8/22/2019 11:20 AM] canibalcrab
Does auto have a vacuum leak smoke machine?


[8/22/2019 12:02 PM] michaelb5250
Don't think we do. What vehicle?


[8/22/2019 12:03 PM] andrew5152
I'm about 80% sure we don't. I recall Tom (I think) bringing a smoke machine in to help someone with something vacuum related...


[8/22/2019 12:03 PM] andrew5152
this is probably what I'm (slightly mis-)remembering
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/smoke-machine-for-vacuum-leak/30392?u=jast

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Hi all,  I was wondering if we had a smoke machine to find a vacuum leak?  Where would it be located?
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[8/22/2019 12:04 PM] andrew5152
then again...
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/evap-system-testing/48204?u=jast

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EVAP System Testing
Continuing the discussion from Do we have a hand vacuum pump for checking EVAP systems?:   I have a small leak OBD code on my F150 and would like to rule out anything simple before going to the dealer. @TLAR, are you still offering to loan your smoke machine?  I can meet you ...
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[8/22/2019 12:04 PM] canibalcrab
1986 g3500 vandura conversion


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[8/22/2019 12:06 PM] andrew5152
hm. What's amiss on the Crueler?


[8/22/2019 12:06 PM] andrew5152
being an 86 probably not EVAP...


[8/22/2019 12:06 PM] canibalcrab
I can hear a vacuum leak


[8/22/2019 12:06 PM] andrew5152
ah


[8/22/2019 12:06 PM] canibalcrab
13-14 inches of mercury


[8/22/2019 12:06 PM] andrew5152
intake vacuum (in the engine bay, while it's running kind of vacuum leak)?


[8/22/2019 12:07 PM] canibalcrab
So it's tiny, but would be nice to fix

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[8/22/2019 12:07 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah


[8/22/2019 12:07 PM] andrew5152
we used to use a can of carb cleaner (with a straw, preferably) to check for those...


[8/22/2019 12:08 PM] andrew5152
just be aware it eats rubber if you use too much of it


[8/22/2019 12:08 PM] andrew5152
spray along the intake tract/vacuum lines (but you probably already tried this)


[8/22/2019 12:09 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah that's what I was reading, we didn't want to spray randomly into the bay so we just replaced the lines we could find


[8/22/2019 12:10 PM] andrew5152
well, one doesn't spray randomly. It's on a carefully calculated path along the intake/vacuum tract, in order from "I'll bet it's there" to "well shit, it MUST be here!"


[8/22/2019 12:11 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah, I wanted to try the non combustable route first

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[8/22/2019 12:11 PM] michaelb5250
That's pretty low. My money is on it being something noticable, like feel around a bit for it


[8/22/2019 12:13 PM] michaelb5250
The truck had the brake boost fall off routinely and would have similar symptoms.


[8/25/2019 12:48 AM] canibalcrab
Why would a carb be leaking gas from the side?


[8/25/2019 12:53 AM] michaelb5250
Probably a lot of reasons? A leaky bowl gasket if y'all opened it up recently. Leaky fuel fittings, or a sunk float that's just pouring out the side instead of into the engine for some reason.


[8/25/2019 12:54 AM] canibalcrab
Didn't remove carb recently


[8/25/2019 12:54 AM] canibalcrab
But James did adjust the throttle position


[8/25/2019 12:56 AM] canibalcrab
Leaking from passenger side on the seconds


[8/25/2019 1:06 AM] michaelb5250
On the shaft that goes to the secondary butterflies? No idea why that would leak, I don't think fuel runs by that shaft.


[8/25/2019 1:21 AM] canibalcrab
It's possible it was the fuel like right above it, we took it back to our workshop and can come back tomorrow


[8/25/2019 1:37 AM] canibalcrab
Some interneting says the floats


[8/25/2019 2:11 AM] michaelb5250
The floats are completely inside the bowl. It'll pour fuel out of the bowl vents if the floats are sunk, but that should be contained in the air cleaner/hat and flown into the engine.


[8/25/2019 2:12 AM] michaelb5250
I guess it's possible a sunk float caused fuel to build up in the secondary bore. If there was standing fuel in there it would leak out...


[8/25/2019 2:12 AM] michaelb5250
But often leaks like to find secret hidden ways to drip down and show up where you don't expect. I'd check the fuel fitting first.


[8/25/2019 2:13 AM] canibalcrab
That's what I was thinking too


[8/25/2019 2:14 AM] canibalcrab
But we found 2 more vac leaks and it's at a solid 20inches of mercury

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[8/25/2019 2:17 AM] michaelb5250
Oh damn the trucks only running at 18 at the moment.


[8/25/2019 2:18 AM] michaelb5250
Do you know what that engine came out of originally?


[8/25/2019 2:51 AM] canibalcrab
No we got it as the conversion daycare bus


[8/25/2019 3:36 AM] aceat64
It's got the original engine


[8/25/2019 3:37 AM] aceat64
The VIN shows it as a 5.7l v8


[8/25/2019 3:40 AM] aceat64
It even says it was an "Incomplete - Cutaway", which is basically just an engine, frame and basic cab


[8/25/2019 10:38 AM] michaelb5250
Werid. The brake booster is setup for a diesel.


[8/25/2019 11:01 AM] aceat64
So it looks like that type of brake booster is also used on some larger vans and such because it offers more power than vacuum boosters


[8/25/2019 12:11 PM] michaelb5250
Makes sense


[8/25/2019 7:40 PM] andrew5152
meaning it's hydraulic?


[8/25/2019 7:40 PM] andrew5152
rather than pneumatic


[8/25/2019 8:22 PM] aceat64
right

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[8/27/2019 3:50 PM] aceat64
Try as I might, I can't find a better (easily portable) tool kit for automotive work than the 301 piece mechanics tool kit from harbor freight


[8/27/2019 3:51 PM] aceat64
Lots of stuff that's better quality sure, but then you're carrying around multiple cases


[8/27/2019 3:51 PM] aceat64
And the damn thing is only $200


[8/27/2019 4:03 PM] hon1nbo
I see the giant kobaly kits get that price about once a quarter at least (the never ending sales)


[8/27/2019 4:03 PM] hon1nbo
Having everything in a single case sure is handy too. I used to use a Pelican tool chest but I downsized the tools I keep in my truck


[8/27/2019 4:04 PM] hon1nbo
those chests were great though to just keep in the bed or mount to the vehicle


[8/27/2019 6:39 PM] michaelb5250
5 gallon buckets are a totally viable method of keeping collections of tools. But if you don't have anything and are looking for something to carry around, the tool sets are ok.


[8/27/2019 11:42 PM] canibalcrab
Replaced the 1406 carb. Everything is better


[8/27/2019 11:47 PM] michaelb5250
Lol new 1406 from a parts store?


[8/27/2019 11:51 PM] canibalcrab
Yep


[8/27/2019 11:51 PM] canibalcrab
Most places online said the leak was a "return to manufacturer" issue


[8/27/2019 11:57 PM] michaelb5250
Damn. I guess yeah if it was coming from the secondary shaft, that's not a fixable issue.


[8/29/2019 12:52 PM] andrew5152
why don't cars just ship with this?
https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Fog-Film-Anti-Fogging-Anti-Dazzle/dp/B07JVFFDD9/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=car+side+mirror+sticker&qid=1567100912&s=gateway&sr=8-14


[8/29/2019 1:11 PM] nullinterface
industry would rather sell heated sideview mirrors

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[8/29/2019 2:19 PM] adam1334
My understanding is that these films work great, for about a day.  Then they get enough dust and dirt on them that they don't do anything anymore.

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[8/29/2019 2:39 PM] widdlebwudda
the coating on it is PET which is not UV stable iirc

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[8/29/2019 2:49 PM] andrew5152
if you're in the market for a Dodge Cummins Gen I (wish I were) I'd be calling on this...
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dearing-1992-dodge-d250-diesel-wts-wtt/6967247496.html

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1992 Dodge d250 diesel wts wtt
I have a first gen 12 valve diesel for sale. Runs and drives good tagged and ready to go. Clean title in my name brand new tires new injectors new brakes and rotors. It is a good truck I would drive...
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[8/30/2019 11:41 AM] nullinterface
does automotive have some basic *ramps*?


[8/30/2019 11:43 AM] nullinterface
and *wow* a manual fullsize truck


[8/30/2019 12:05 PM] yashsedai
Aye believe they do


[8/30/2019 1:01 PM] michaelb5250
Pretty sure there's ramps on the shelves by laser


[8/30/2019 1:28 PM] canibalcrab
There's ramps outside for some reason


[8/30/2019 2:09 PM] nullinterface
ended up buying a set from the local vato zone


[8/30/2019 2:11 PM] nullinterface
because I was embarassingly beyond the service interval and didn't want to drive some ~15 miles then have to wait 30 minutes for the oil to drop below "scalding"


[8/30/2019 3:03 PM] aesuna
When the heck did it start raining?!


[8/30/2019 3:12 PM] nullinterface
about time I was frantically wrapping up my ill-timed oil change


[8/30/2019 3:13 PM] aesuna
i had my car windows rolled down, whoops


[8/30/2019 3:13 PM] canibalcrab
Right when I planned to drive the bus from Garland to Arlington


[8/30/2019 3:13 PM] aesuna
Pro: the drive to DMS won't be so agonizingly hot


[8/30/2019 3:14 PM] aesuna
Con: I now have to factor in how long it'll take with every highway backed up from all the wrecks


[9/1/2019 6:00 PM] nullinterface


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[9/1/2019 6:00 PM] nullinterface
For those all-so-common 7.62mm fuel lines


[9/1/2019 7:30 PM] michaelb5250
Ohhhh that's what those were. I legit thought they were shitty fuel filters the other day.

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[9/1/2019 8:10 PM] nullinterface
Good for filtering supersonic shock waves maybe


[9/2/2019 12:21 PM] canibalcrab
I need ideas on how to extend an accelerator pedal for a short driver in the bus


[9/2/2019 12:23 PM] doug.emes
Platform shoes


[9/2/2019 12:29 PM] aceat64
Hahaha


[9/2/2019 12:31 PM] agr0090
Duct tape piece of wood to pedal


[9/2/2019 12:31 PM] aceat64
Tried that, pedal reset isn't strong enough


[9/2/2019 12:32 PM] aceat64
Basically gave us cruise control


[9/2/2019 12:32 PM] agr0090
Duct tape piece of wood to their foot


[9/2/2019 12:34 PM] aceat64
lol best idea


[9/2/2019 12:38 PM] michaelb5250
So basically platform shoes


[9/2/2019 12:40 PM] canibalcrab
Shoe*

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[9/2/2019 12:40 PM] canibalcrab
I only have one block of wood


[9/2/2019 1:02 PM] peasandclams
some sort of spring mechanism that "lifts" the foot extension off the gas?


[9/2/2019 1:02 PM] peasandclams
you could also try feeding ~~her~~ them growth hormones.


[9/2/2019 1:10 PM] canibalcrab
We added a seat cushion to the back for her

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[9/2/2019 2:44 PM] canibalcrab
:ThinkMultiply:


[9/2/2019 2:46 PM] kenpurcell
Does it sound badass as it looks now?


[9/2/2019 2:49 PM] canibalcrab
Sounds flappy now


[9/2/2019 3:00 PM] agr0090
Did you stick a potato in the exhaust?


[9/2/2019 3:06 PM] canibalcrab
No but we increased engine performance which may have stressed the old muffler


[9/2/2019 3:11 PM] aceat64
We lost engine power when it blew, possible it just stalled out though


[9/2/2019 3:11 PM] aceat64
It starts up and we were able to move off to a better spot


[9/2/2019 3:22 PM] aceat64
Current theory is that we've always had a restriction in the exhaust but only after getting the engine running better did it cause enough pressure to rupture


[9/2/2019 3:28 PM] canibalcrab
Or the auto shut off from the temp gauge activated, and the unspent gas was passed into the exhaust and exploded


[9/2/2019 3:34 PM] kenpurcell
Need someone to come pick you up?


[9/2/2019 3:35 PM] aceat64
Nah, we've got someone nearby, thinking it might be fine to drive too


[9/2/2019 3:36 PM] kenpurcell
A little fiberglass exhaust tape and she'll be fine ;-)


[9/2/2019 3:36 PM] aceat64
Maybe just cut it off


[9/2/2019 3:36 PM] aceat64
We're not emissions controlled lol


[9/2/2019 3:37 PM] kenpurcell
Drill/tap a hole and put in a sparkplug. BANG!


[9/2/2019 3:53 PM] michaelb5250
I've got a fist sized hole in the truck exhaust, never caused a problem.


[9/2/2019 3:54 PM] michaelb5250
Well, aside form carbon monoxide poisoning at stoplights...

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[9/2/2019 4:00 PM] aceat64
We've had a small exhaust leak near the engine for a while, only issue was CO _seasoning_ of the driver


[9/2/2019 4:32 PM] nullinterface
Replace that complex muffler with a nice shiney bit of straight stainless pipe

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[9/2/2019 10:19 PM] aceat64
so our main theory is now that we overheated, which causes the engine to shutdown since we have a kill switch for if the engine gets too hot


[9/2/2019 10:19 PM] aceat64
that caused unburned fuel to enter the exhaust system and inside of the muffler ignite and cause an "over pressure event"


[9/2/2019 10:20 PM] aceat64
since the engine shutdown, we lost power steering and the brake booster


[9/2/2019 10:20 PM] aceat64
we think this is the first time we've driven in >100F weather, and we've also improved the performance a bunch so overheating is easier now


[9/2/2019 10:29 PM] agr0090
does it have a water temp gauge?


[9/2/2019 10:30 PM] aceat64
yeah


[9/2/2019 10:30 PM] aceat64
it's set to cut the engine if the gauge reads 260 I think, @pearce was it 240 or 260?


[9/2/2019 11:24 PM] canibalcrab
Right around 250


[9/3/2019 10:32 AM] michaelb5250
Y'all are just killing the ignition when it goes overtemp?


[9/3/2019 10:33 AM] michaelb5250
I mean there's not much else you can do, but a backfire is pretty reasonable in that case.


[9/3/2019 10:46 AM] aceat64
Yeah it cuts the ignition


[9/3/2019 10:47 AM] aceat64
We're going to get a bigger/thicker radiator


[9/3/2019 12:37 PM] agr0090
were you in stop and go or highway speed when it overheated?


[9/3/2019 12:40 PM] aceat64
Highway


[9/3/2019 12:40 PM] aceat64
At 75 mph and _passing people_

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[9/3/2019 1:23 PM] andrew5152
_that_ must have been a weird feeling in the cruel bus...


[9/3/2019 1:28 PM] canibalcrab
No the weird feeling is the oscillation that only I can feel or seem to notice


[9/3/2019 9:59 PM] michaelb5250
Does anyone know the story on the time machine? Its back in the parking lot but still with its expired tags.


[9/3/2019 10:37 PM] andrew5152
Luke Strickland / Alan's "time machine"? ( white Chrysler minivan)


[9/3/2019 10:43 PM] yashsedai
Picture?


[9/3/2019 11:05 PM] canibalcrab
Well a long time ago


[9/3/2019 11:05 PM] canibalcrab
It was my first car


[9/3/2019 11:05 PM] canibalcrab
Many people have bought it from Allen


[9/3/2019 11:06 PM] canibalcrab
But it keeps coming back


[9/3/2019 11:07 PM] michaelb5250
I mean it came back from Pennsylvania I don't think we're gonna be able to get rid of it.


[9/3/2019 11:07 PM] michaelb5250
@yashsedai it's the white 98 Dodge Grand caravan with the aluminium paint wheels that's out in the parking lot.


[9/3/2019 11:09 PM] michaelb5250
I was sure it was either getting 30 day tags and going to pick and pull this month, didn't expect to see it back at the space


[9/3/2019 11:18 PM] yashsedai
Haha


[9/3/2019 11:49 PM] aceat64
Some things can't be killed


[9/7/2019 12:33 PM] michaelb5250
Turns out he gave it away and they're planning on turning it into a truck.


[9/7/2019 12:57 PM] agr0090
Pretty sure van roof is structurally significant


[9/7/2019 1:28 PM] nullinterface
Unibody and all that


[9/7/2019 3:15 PM] michaelb5250
Allegedly, the suspension is set up so that its not hard to add frame rails front to back. It'll be interesting to see how it works out.


[9/7/2019 4:21 PM] nullinterface
Surely it's simpler to just obtain a truck


[9/7/2019 5:51 PM] michaelb5250
True, but vans have a lower load floor, which is pretty damn useful. So a truck with the load floor of a van.... Should be pretty handy.


[9/7/2019 8:49 PM] andrew5152
as long as you keep some fender, you're all good.
e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSWRqyM2z9Y

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turn your VW Jetta or Golf into a VW Ute in your driveway in a wee...
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[9/7/2019 9:22 PM] andrew5152
anyone ever use one of these (brand/model)?
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200486585_200486585
any good?


[9/8/2019 9:48 PM] aceat64
bus hit 88 miles an hour, so we were successfully able to time travel


[9/8/2019 9:49 PM] aceat64
it then overheated (we were fairly sure that would happen) and got it to do some sweet backfires


[9/8/2019 9:50 PM] aceat64
traveling at 70 mph works great though


[9/8/2019 9:54 PM] agr0090
was that at full throttle?


[9/8/2019 9:59 PM] aceat64
yeah


[9/8/2019 9:59 PM] aceat64
due to overheating we can't travel very far/fast through time


[9/9/2019 7:51 AM] nullinterface
radiator upgrade in the future for the bus?


[9/9/2019 9:07 AM] kenpurcell
Needs more magic bath water


[9/9/2019 3:52 PM] aceat64
New rad arrives today


[9/9/2019 5:09 PM] andrew5152
at the 'fest?


[9/11/2019 3:14 AM] aceat64
We're running way cooler with the new rad, only downside is the fan shroud doesn't fit anymore so we might overheat when idle


[9/11/2019 3:14 AM] aceat64
At highway speeds we're running down right cold


[9/15/2019 12:47 PM] doug.emes
I don't think Allen is in here, but FYI I'm on my 2nd rebuilt alternator.  The 2 month old one was putting out 11.3.  At least it was a free part replacement


[9/15/2019 12:49 PM] doug.emes
Unfortunately, we accidentally let out some r134a.  Anyone wanna help top off the minivan, or should I hit a quick oil shop to do it?  

My neighbor mechanic prefers not to mess with ac, but hes awesomenon the other stuff


[9/15/2019 1:36 PM] doug.emes
The mrs. wants it done now, headed to the shop down the street.  At least it didn't fully purge, the air is "tepid"


[9/15/2019 1:52 PM] michaelb5250
Where'd the previous alternator come from?


[9/15/2019 2:11 PM] doug.emes
Both from oreilly


[9/15/2019 2:12 PM] doug.emes
And the shop was closed today.  But, on recirculating it eventually did get cold


[9/15/2019 2:12 PM] doug.emes
So it probably needs a pound


[9/17/2019 11:49 AM] nullinterface


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[9/17/2019 11:50 AM] nullinterface
One last shipment of C7's?


[9/17/2019 12:15 PM] andrew5152
going nowhere fast?


[9/17/2019 12:15 PM] andrew5152
was that taken here in DFW?


[9/17/2019 12:33 PM] nullinterface
yeah, Bushpike yesterday mid-day


[9/19/2019 11:31 AM] nullinterface
@Adam WRT the EV chargers there's no real good solution since relocating them is apt to be a tad expensive


[9/19/2019 11:33 AM] nullinterface
the following occurred to me ...
• red: blah estimate of Tesla reach
• blue: blah estimate of J1772 reach
• orange: possible wall-mounted locations - all with only marginally-better reach than the present location
• green: possible pedestal-mounted locations - all with good reach to at least 4 adjacent spots but also require conduit, likely under the lot

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[9/19/2019 11:42 AM] andrew5152
Like most enterprises, we probably don't really want to do (pay, mostly) what is necessary for remote chargers. Tunneling costs big bucks (not mention all the needed approvals, red tape, etc.) Then there's the cost of the copper, which ain't exactly cheap either, these days... But who knows... A benefactor might appear... or...


[9/19/2019 11:48 AM] nullinterface
there's not a great fix for the issue


[9/19/2019 11:48 AM] nullinterface
I've occasionally seen conduit-on-pavement done but that also looked ***kinda*** sketch


[9/19/2019 11:51 AM] nullinterface
north side of the building by those spots near-ish the e-lab windows another possibility but I don't know that there's >120V service there nor if there are plans to provide that kind of service there


[9/19/2019 11:54 AM] andrew5152
If I had any say, the loading dock would have been put in on the north end docks, so that the charger would be less in the way where it currently is than it currently is. That way, being parked in/around there wouldn't impede deliveries/etc. like it does now... But maybe I don't have a handle on the sit.


[9/19/2019 11:54 AM] andrew5152
probably I don'


[9/19/2019 11:57 AM] nullinterface
loading dock chargers probably located there because that was the closest intersection of available power and parking up against the building


[9/19/2019 11:58 AM] andrew5152
yep


[9/19/2019 11:59 AM] andrew5152
near the electric closet, etc


[9/19/2019 12:11 PM] nullinterface
sunk cost at this point and tangential to our mission thus there's apt to always be some conflict between EV drivers and the rest of the membership


[9/19/2019 12:12 PM] nullinterface
also a lot of people using that spot as a quasi 4th auto bay


[9/19/2019 12:15 PM] canibalcrab
I have no idea what you are talking about


[9/19/2019 12:16 PM] canibalcrab
I use it as a welding bay. Not auto

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[9/19/2019 3:02 PM] aceat64
yeah pedestals are nice but running the lines out there is fairly pricey, more than I think is justified for the few people with EVs


[9/19/2019 3:03 PM] aceat64
of course if there's a donation drive and it's 100% funded by donations, then have at

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[9/19/2019 3:03 PM] agr0090
why did ev chargers come up again?


[9/19/2019 3:03 PM] aceat64
something about blocking the loading dock?


[9/19/2019 3:03 PM] aceat64
oh, no it was about sharing the charger


[9/19/2019 3:03 PM] aceat64
and morphed into "maybe it should move to a better spot"

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[9/19/2019 3:37 PM] nullinterface
probably a 5-figure cost to install pedestals


[9/19/2019 3:37 PM] nullinterface
not including the EVSE


[9/19/2019 3:55 PM] andrew5152
you should start a gofundme


[9/19/2019 4:14 PM] nullinterface
In spite of my casual advocacy for EVs I neither own nor drive them


[9/19/2019 7:09 PM] andrew5152
seeking a copy of the april 1, 2019 released Honda Past-port video... apparently I missed his, and now, they've pulled it, so I have been ROBBED of getting to guffaw out loud at the 1990's references... 😤  (PS who thinks this emoji looks anything like triumph? They look like this

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[9/23/2019 10:18 PM] agr0090
Just saw this on abom, a parts washer where you just change out filter mat monthly and there is otherwise never any waste / disposal https://chemfree.com/portfolio-items/sw-25/?portfolioCats=46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHndADmwseQ

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[9/23/2019 10:19 PM] agr0090
not a pressure washer, depends on brush action, but an interesting alternative if current parts washer ever needs to be replaced


[9/24/2019 5:44 AM] andrew5152
Interesting. Ya think it'll survive DMS "use"?


[9/24/2019 5:47 AM] andrew5152
And, as usual, no pricing. Just a "contact us" button... I know that's how everything works, but I really hate that.


[9/24/2019 7:49 AM] nullinterface
Professor *Goog* has some ideas ...

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[9/26/2019 7:10 PM] nullinterface
Walmart is really stepping up their offerings


[9/26/2019 7:10 PM] andrew5152
um... is that an RC?


[10/3/2019 1:13 AM] tenchi_my8352
Is there a motorcycle lift in automotive?


[10/3/2019 8:02 AM] michaelb5250
No, we have a motorcycle jack, but not a lift.


[10/3/2019 8:03 AM] michaelb5250
I've heard you could somehow use the regular lift as a motorcycle lift, but I'm not a motorcycle person so I'm not sure whats up there.


[10/3/2019 8:09 AM] nullinterface
@A. Spencer(jast) so a week later turns out that was a *print* rather than a *conveyance*.  I was disappointed.

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[10/10/2019 11:24 PM] aceat64
https://www.harborfreight.com/301-Pc-Mechanics-Tool-Set-63464.html

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[10/10/2019 11:24 PM] aceat64
coupon code 71526143 brings that down to $170


[10/10/2019 11:24 PM] aceat64
has just about everything needed to get started with automotive work


[10/17/2019 6:54 PM] hon1nbo
Hey everyone, Automotive committee meeting is scheduled


[10/17/2019 6:55 PM] hon1nbo
with an *Election*


[10/17/2019 6:55 PM] andrew5152
oooo


[10/17/2019 6:55 PM] andrew5152
how'd that happen?


[10/17/2019 6:55 PM] andrew5152
or do I want to know


[10/17/2019 6:55 PM] hon1nbo
Oct 30th, at Noon


[10/17/2019 6:55 PM] hon1nbo
well all committees have to have them


[10/17/2019 6:56 PM] hon1nbo
Tom finally scheduled it


[10/17/2019 6:56 PM] andrew5152
YAY!


[10/17/2019 6:56 PM] andrew5152
Is Joe running?


[10/17/2019 6:57 PM] andrew5152
no joy on seeing the event :-(

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[10/17/2019 6:58 PM] andrew5152
SHITSNAX!
Noon to 9P?

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[10/17/2019 7:08 PM] hon1nbo
I'm running

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[10/17/2019 7:08 PM] hon1nbo
given what happened prior no idea if Joe would try again

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[10/18/2019 9:25 AM] nullinterface
I predict the Board has zero enthusiasm for confirming Joe


[10/22/2019 5:33 PM] aceat64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck_O5U1Tyz8

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[10/22/2019 5:37 PM] peasandclams
does the HF one explode?


[10/30/2019 3:40 PM] hon1nbo
Automotive meeting minutes are up: https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Automotive_Committee_Meeting_20191030


[10/30/2019 3:41 PM] hon1nbo
I was elected chair unanimously (however we all agreed the meeting time was odd, so we'll have a "vote of confidence" one month in)

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[10/30/2019 3:51 PM] agr0090
I wasn't sure so I went back and checked, the seals I replaced May 2016 were on the other cylinder (not the one that is leaking now)


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[10/30/2019 3:53 PM] agr0090
Hydraulic Cylinder Seal Kit for ROTARY Lift / PACOMA Cylinders / FJ7211 ~ FJ7311~ FJ7375 ~ FJ7664 ~ FJ783 / FJ783-12MF from Auto Lift Parts LLC


[10/30/2019 6:11 PM] michaelb5250
Having an actual plan in automotive, I'm impressed.


[10/30/2019 6:12 PM] michaelb5250
I understand there's going to be a confidence vote on the 13th at 8pm?


[10/31/2019 1:00 AM] hon1nbo
That's going to be a general meeting (better time). That vote will be one month-ish in


[11/6/2019 7:22 AM] Deleted User
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium I accidentally left my spark plugs on the bench in a great bag. Did you happen to grab them by chance?


[11/6/2019 7:23 AM] Deleted User
Grey bag*


[11/6/2019 11:57 AM] hon1nbo
I didn't but I know who was on the lift after you. I'll check with them


[11/6/2019 12:15 PM] Deleted User
Excellent thanks


[11/6/2019 12:19 PM] hon1nbo
Sorry I reread this (groggy, left DMS at 5am)


[11/6/2019 12:19 PM] hon1nbo
Nothing on the work bench was touched so likely still there


[11/6/2019 12:53 PM] Deleted User
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium okay if they are still there would you hide them out somewhere for me? Thanks.


[11/6/2019 12:54 PM] hon1nbo
wont be in until later but if I do I will


[11/6/2019 1:04 PM] Deleted User
Excellent thank


[11/7/2019 7:01 PM] doug.emes
Uh oh


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
Battery light, temp way high


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
I'm parked out back and cooling down


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
Need help after committee meetings tonight


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] andrew5152
make/model?


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] andrew5152
busted fan belt?


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
I "heard" some squeal


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
Might be


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
2003 4runner


[11/7/2019 7:02 PM] doug.emes
297000 miles


[11/7/2019 7:03 PM] doug.emes
All belts replaced before in the past 2 yeats


[11/7/2019 7:03 PM] doug.emes
But I'm keeping it


[11/7/2019 7:05 PM] andrew5152
I *think* that runs a "traditional" belt-driven fan, although I'm 90% sure Toyota no longer drove the water pump from that belt, but from the timing belt. so... It might be a "simple" belt replacement... Just make sure all the pulleys turn, first, before going to the parts store, if the belt's fried... that way, you know if something ELSE is amiss


[11/7/2019 7:06 PM] doug.emes
I know computers, and cell towers.  Not a car guy,but illbe around tonight if anyone else is up to helping closer to 830 tonight


[11/7/2019 7:07 PM] andrew5152
I'll be @ work, so... cannot.


[11/7/2019 7:07 PM] andrew5152
but at least you're @ DMS, where it's warm, and if you're lucky, there'll be tools and a helper or 2...


[11/7/2019 7:07 PM] andrew5152
😄


[11/7/2019 7:09 PM] doug.emes
Indeed


[11/7/2019 7:09 PM] doug.emes
Worst case. It stays for 24 hours


[11/7/2019 7:09 PM] doug.emes
And I'll be up tomorrow night


[11/7/2019 7:11 PM] andrew5152
lovely writeup with busted pics/video link of the serp belt swap procedure


[11/7/2019 7:11 PM] andrew5152
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/82482-diy-changing-serpentine-belts-v6-1gr-fe-4runners.html

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[11/7/2019 7:12 PM] andrew5152
this one has a nice pic of the routing, if you need it (there's probably one under the hood, too) https://www.toyota-4runner.org/2449820-post31.html

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[11/7/2019 7:20 PM] andrew5152
This video says I'm wrong, and the 1gr-fe engine moved the water pump back to the serp belt b/c it's got chain driven cams. It's not a bad video on changing the water pump, but hopefully that's not what you're facing if working on cars isn't your jam...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFLp7kLH198
It'll still show the orientation of all the pulleys and such the belt runs

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[11/8/2019 12:13 AM] doug.emes
Belt plus a pulley. Will revisit tomorrow afternoon for sure, since vehicle is not operable at the moment. Thanks to all for offering advice and digging around and looking

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[11/10/2019 1:19 AM] doug.emes
Update. New belt, and Alan pressed out the old bearing and we pressed in a new one.  Hoorah


[11/10/2019 11:11 AM] kenpurcell
Don't let Allen near your car or he will fix other stuff too!


[11/10/2019 2:28 PM] mizgeek
Yay for fixing old cars!


[11/10/2019 2:28 PM] mizgeek
I keep my cars until they have near death experiences. 😁


[11/10/2019 2:29 PM] mizgeek
Or until it’s harder to get parts. -mourns her Saturn-


[11/10/2019 6:20 PM] andrew5152
awesome!


[11/13/2019 10:41 PM] michaelb5250
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium unless there's an objection I'm throwing away this socket.

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[11/13/2019 10:42 PM] hon1nbo
Just glue it together and it will be totally fine. /Sarcasm


[11/14/2019 1:01 AM] talkers
@@michaelb Practice your welds


[11/14/2019 1:02 AM] talkers
Then start grinding laser lenses. 😂


[11/14/2019 9:15 AM] aceat64
Yeah little bit of jb weld and it's good as new


[11/19/2019 1:35 PM] canibalcrab
How's everyone's day going


[11/19/2019 1:36 PM] canibalcrab
Heres mine


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[11/19/2019 1:45 PM] canibalcrab
Wife's Jeep is magic. Turned 1 belt into 3

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[11/19/2019 2:02 PM] apparently_weird
Isn’t it suppose to be three separate rings suddenly are linked together?


[11/19/2019 2:02 PM] apparently_weird
Belt just wear or is a pulley loose and vibrations split belt?


[11/19/2019 2:17 PM] canibalcrab
The idler pulley melted and was just a bearing


[11/19/2019 2:17 PM] canibalcrab
And shredded the belt


[11/19/2019 2:22 PM] andrew5152
ah yeah. Can see here, now... At least there's a clear failure. Makes it easier to ID & repair...

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[11/19/2019 2:32 PM] canibalcrab
Old vs new


[11/19/2019 2:42 PM] andrew5152
is the old bearing frozen or did the plastic just take a vacay?


[11/19/2019 2:50 PM] canibalcrab
Seized

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[11/19/2019 2:50 PM] canibalcrab
But the new one is metal


[11/19/2019 2:51 PM] andrew5152
that should give more warning before absolute failure


[11/19/2019 2:51 PM] andrew5152
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE


[11/19/2019 2:51 PM] andrew5152
ROFL


[11/19/2019 2:59 PM] canibalcrab
She said she heard a metal on metal sound then drove it another mile

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[11/22/2019 8:00 AM] nullinterface
Not sure whether TSLA has lost their collective minds with the Cybertruck or are ahead of the curve on the *lifestyle truck* segment


[11/22/2019 8:04 AM] nullinterface
https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

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[11/22/2019 12:47 PM] hon1nbo
That thing is insane and I want it


[11/22/2019 12:48 PM] hon1nbo
A friggin Stainless steel body, up to 14k# towing (yeah range I know), trunk under bed, 6.5' bed, 16 friggin inches of ground clearance


[11/22/2019 1:14 PM] nullinterface
all trucks suffer for range towing


[11/22/2019 1:14 PM] nullinterface
I can't decide if I like it or hate it, which suggests I'll tip towards the former eventually


[11/22/2019 1:15 PM] nullinterface
get the feeling that specific design isn't going to survive contact with the regulators thus expect some changes before release to the markets


[11/22/2019 1:21 PM] nullinterface
if they can hit their pricepoints I suspect they'll sell a bunch of them


[11/22/2019 1:23 PM] michaelb5250
Ahh yes the low poly truck.


[11/22/2019 1:24 PM] nullinterface
even the GMC Terradyne concept of 2000 had more polys


[11/22/2019 2:11 PM] nullinterface
I will say that the look they're going for seems to be an interesting response to the challenges of making a utilitarian shape that's also sufficiently aerodynamic *and* will suffice as a daily driver


[11/22/2019 2:17 PM] nullinterface
I'm sort of at the Honest Movie Trailers viewpoint on *Pacific Rim* : 
"We can't tell is this is the dumbest awesome movie ever made or the most awesome dumb movie ever made."


[11/22/2019 2:18 PM] canibalcrab
Someone has to break the standard


[11/22/2019 2:19 PM] nullinterface
oh sure - Tesla wasn't going to amalgamate the Silverado, F150, Ram, Tundra, and Titan designs


[11/22/2019 2:20 PM] yashsedai
Garage door is being worked on as we speak


[11/22/2019 2:23 PM] canibalcrab
Ayy


[11/24/2019 1:19 AM] hon1nbo
Reminder: Automotive committee meeting is Sunday the 24th at 3pm


[11/24/2019 1:19 AM] canibalcrab
vote to buy  a cybertruck


[11/24/2019 1:30 AM] michaelb5250
Hey we can put anything to a vote


[11/24/2019 2:14 AM] hon1nbo
I vote we make a better cybertruck


[11/24/2019 2:14 AM] hon1nbo
using an APC and some electronic warfare equipment I built


[11/24/2019 2:58 PM] michaelb5250
Running late but will be there in 15


[11/27/2019 12:51 PM] canibalcrab
https://jalopnik.com/watch-this-guys-homemade-epoxy-wheel-survive-an-incredi-1840045648

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[11/27/2019 2:13 PM] michaelb5250
Don't give Allen any ideas...

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[11/27/2019 2:18 PM] canibalcrab
That's exactly who I thought of


[11/27/2019 4:13 PM] nullinterface
the ineffectual tire gods thank you for your sacrifice


[12/9/2019 12:30 PM] Deleted User
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium hey thanks for tracking down my spark plugs


[12/9/2019 12:37 PM] hon1nbo
I didn't find them when I looked, but stuff had been moved around a lot. Did they reappear?


[12/11/2019 9:39 AM] talkers
Do we have a code reader? Can't find one


[12/11/2019 10:04 AM] nullinterface
we did at one point.  orange case with a pigtail cable if I recall.


[12/11/2019 10:05 AM] nullinterface
it's been years since I last saw/used it


[12/11/2019 10:59 AM] hon1nbo
It's floating around. Last I saw was in electrical drawer


[12/11/2019 10:59 AM] hon1nbo
It sometimes wanders but usually seems to find its way back


[12/11/2019 10:59 AM] talkers
Didn't see it today. Good to know we do have at least one


[12/11/2019 11:00 AM] hon1nbo
Personally I'd like to put it in the locked toolchest, but at the committee meeting we agreed to not lock any tools previously unlocked without figuring out some sort of transition


[12/11/2019 11:00 AM] hon1nbo
It's the old laser model they used to use for Cermark etc (which metal also uses for tools)


[12/11/2019 11:01 AM] canibalcrab
Isn't the orange one like $20 at Walmart?


[12/11/2019 11:01 AM] canibalcrab
Seems like overkill to lock that one up


[12/11/2019 11:01 AM] hon1nbo
Maybe? It's more just a regular item to go missing


[12/11/2019 11:01 AM] hon1nbo
Not so much financial value but lost productivity if it keeps wandering off then reappearing after days


[12/11/2019 11:01 AM] canibalcrab
Last time I used it in October it was the same one that I used years ago


[12/11/2019 11:02 AM] canibalcrab
The one that Brandon spray painted with green to identify it as autos


[12/11/2019 11:02 AM] hon1nbo
Yeah it's not ever truly gone, but it's never found when it's needed. I consider that the same problem as taken tools


[12/11/2019 11:02 AM] hon1nbo
Because even if it comes back, it was gone when a member needed it and that's what irks me


[12/11/2019 11:03 AM] hon1nbo
I've had several members try to use it, to find the thing not there, only to reappear days later


[12/11/2019 11:03 AM] canibalcrab
Cheap enough to get some extra for redundancy


[12/11/2019 11:03 AM] hon1nbo
True


[12/11/2019 11:03 AM] hon1nbo
We are currently evaluating proper code scanners right now. That guy will be locked and/or bolted to a table with a long ass cable


[12/11/2019 11:04 AM] hon1nbo
Could probably snag some extras of these for the time being


[12/11/2019 11:11 AM] talkers
Please let's get one that can read the Mercedes Sprinter


[12/11/2019 11:11 AM] talkers
And cheap ones will handle 90+% of all problems


[12/11/2019 11:13 AM] yashsedai
lol


[12/11/2019 11:21 AM] hon1nbo
@john a gorman  the scanner we currently have is a super basic OBD. It doesn't do much besides spit out a minimalistic set of what's required. Anything manufacturer specific generally isn't covered by those units.
The fancy readers don't have a lot of cost for the hardware itself, it's generally the software modules for the different manufacturers and those are updated regularly.
For some comparison, a typical OBD will point out cylinder misfires since that's a requirement due to emissions. A proper code scanner can do things like diagnose and adjust ABS modules which are all different.
The one auto is currently looking at is ~$1,000 which is one of the less expensive options for those tools


[12/11/2019 11:21 AM] kenpurcell
I have a cheap bluetooth one. great for watching the kids speed while taking him out on driving practice.

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[12/11/2019 11:23 AM] canibalcrab
Spoil sport


[12/11/2019 11:52 AM] nullinterface
A ~$20 bluetooth reader can pull codes and do rudimentary realtime monitoring of ... things


[12/11/2019 11:55 AM] hon1nbo
Typically pulling *mandatory* PIDs, rather manufacturer specific info


[12/11/2019 12:15 PM] nullinterface
they've got limits for sure


[12/11/2019 7:21 PM] talkers
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium which one is it?


[12/12/2019 1:03 AM] hon1nbo
we're currently looking at the Autel MS906BT


[12/12/2019 1:05 AM] talkers
Thanks  @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium


[12/12/2019 7:27 AM] andrew5152
Autel makes nice stuff (I hear; never actually USED one myself)


[12/16/2019 1:50 PM] agr0090
What are the odds of replacing our current lift with a typical 2 post lift before auto moves location? (one with the 4 arms instead of drive over pads)


[12/16/2019 1:56 PM] canibalcrab
Couldn't we just remove the pads?


[12/16/2019 2:02 PM] agr0090
no, the arms aren't designed the same and wouldn't have the safety features that would be expected to prevent arms moving while lifted


[12/16/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo
actually it is the same posts last I checked, the arms if purchased are basically a block on the post side and the arms their own picots so you don't have extra sway. However, I doubt we will any time soon. There are plenty of examples of screwing up using a 4 point, and since members here don't have the same level of accountability I wouldn't trust them with it personally


[12/16/2019 2:17 PM] hon1nbo
not at least until we get a lot of other shit under control


[12/16/2019 2:29 PM] nullinterface
reminds me I need to source or cobble together some blocks so I can lift my daily driver ...


[12/16/2019 3:18 PM] hon1nbo
are none of the blocks we have adequate?


[12/16/2019 3:18 PM] aceat64
I can't safely lift my jeep on the pads 😦


[12/16/2019 3:19 PM] aceat64
it takes more blocks than I'm comfortable with using


[12/16/2019 3:36 PM] nullinterface
if I can rest the seam on the pads, sure, but I suspect that will just slice them in half


[12/16/2019 3:37 PM] nullinterface
and by pads I mean the rubber blocks


[12/16/2019 3:40 PM] nullinterface
last I looked at it I need *something* to clear the bodywork


[12/16/2019 3:56 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah, there's a fair number of vehicles that can't be lifted with our style, but there's also a good risk that it gets used improperly. I think the comprise was once suggested that we do a two stage training and once someone has shown competency with the normal lift we offer a lift 2 training on how to use the swing arm style, but that's like adding another Haas which I'm generally not on favor of.


[12/16/2019 3:56 PM] michaelb5250
For the record, we lift straight on pinch welds quite often and they don't damage the rubber pads


[12/16/2019 3:58 PM] nullinterface
I'm seeing that the slotted blocks offered on the market are hard rubber


[12/16/2019 3:59 PM] nullinterface
there are also pricey aluminum blocks with magnets and embroidered REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT webbing if one is so inclined


[12/16/2019 4:03 PM] michaelb5250
We have some slotted aluminium blocks, but I think only two lol


[12/16/2019 4:30 PM] hon1nbo
last I saw we had 4, but they come and go. Like magnetic parts trays they stick to the vehicle so people don't realize they are there sometimes 😛


[12/16/2019 4:30 PM] hon1nbo
as for a jeep we've had some up there. I think the 4x4s worked better for them IIRC than just a ton of blocks


[12/16/2019 4:30 PM] hon1nbo
but I haven't lifted one myself so can't say for sure


[12/20/2019 1:19 PM] agr0090
Could use new air chuck (could only find this one that leaks and made it difficult to inflate) and new torque wrenches. Also floor jacks where the two parts of the handle are connected would be helpful

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[12/21/2019 11:22 AM] talkers
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium this is on sale on Amazon for $1,053.15.  $185 less


[12/21/2019 12:19 PM] hon1nbo
@john a gorman what was?


[12/21/2019 1:57 PM] talkers
Lol! Sorry. I'm used to threaded replies when I click on a comment. The obd2 reader  @hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium


[12/21/2019 3:21 PM] hon1nbo
Ah, yeah we still have to vote on it at our meeting before we can purchase it


[12/21/2019 3:22 PM] talkers
Yeah, that's a thing


[12/24/2019 10:33 PM] michaelb5250
Is there any litter/oil dry in automotive?


[12/24/2019 11:48 PM] hon1nbo
In the trash bag between the lift and shelves


[12/27/2019 12:47 PM] hon1nbo
@AGr where did you order the parts? We're going to try an in-house before a tech for the other cylinder


[12/27/2019 12:47 PM] hon1nbo
Hydraulic Cylinder Seal Kit for ROTARY Lift / PACOMA Cylinders / FJ7211 ~ FJ7311~ FJ7375 ~ FJ7664 ~ FJ783 / FJ783-12MF from Auto Lift Parts LLC

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[12/27/2019 12:47 PM] hon1nbo
lol at myself there


[12/27/2019 12:47 PM] hon1nbo
just caught the last 4 words when I went back up to copy paste the part numbers


[12/27/2019 12:50 PM] hon1nbo
I have a procurement request in for this seal kit


[12/27/2019 12:51 PM] hon1nbo
when it arrives will schedule a day.


[12/27/2019 12:51 PM] hon1nbo
will likely lock out the lift the night before so we don't end up with someone starting a project right before


[12/27/2019 12:51 PM] hon1nbo
also don't forget this weekend is our monthly meeting. We'll be voting on a code scanner purchase


[12/27/2019 7:13 PM] michaelb5250
Sooooo voting on hand scrub too?


[12/28/2019 12:28 AM] hon1nbo
well I can just buy that, but it's something that logistics usually does


[12/28/2019 12:37 AM] canibalcrab
my feelings wont be hurt if you do, im going to get some and bring it in soon


[12/29/2019 3:00 PM] michaelb5250
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium meeting at 3 right?


[12/29/2019 7:16 PM] hon1nbo
So we cannot keep the non-reel hose by the tool boxes


[12/29/2019 7:17 PM] hon1nbo
Getting up there as part of checking running air to the lift post, I found we've been slowly yanking the junction box that is not secured to anything


[12/29/2019 7:17 PM] hon1nbo
It's also not off a tee, it's an inline box and the outlet feeds more downstream


[12/29/2019 7:17 PM] hon1nbo
So... One good yank and a chunk of the workshop loses air


[12/29/2019 7:18 PM] hon1nbo
We have a robowheels to stick there and I might since the mount is already there


[12/29/2019 7:18 PM] hon1nbo
The lift post will be fed off the junction where the current reel is to get things rolling until a fixed line can be run, and allow for a cut off if someone breaks it again


[12/29/2019 7:56 PM] hon1nbo
Wood is giving us a free robowheels that works and they aren't using, so I'm gonna see if I have time to install that. I'm almost done installing a reel on the lift. We used some 6*2" rectangle steel tube, and some unused bolt pattern holes on the  far side post.


[12/29/2019 7:57 PM] hon1nbo
The reason for rectangle tubing is it will let us mount the reel such that it turns, but can't turn such that it interferes with lift movement


[12/29/2019 7:57 PM] hon1nbo
And we can drill holes and use nursery's to mount all sorts of crap to it


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[1/1/2020 8:22 PM] hon1nbo
Real question is do I leave it on

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[1/2/2020 12:42 AM] hon1nbo
Tentatively setting Monday, January 13th, as the "Lift Down" day to replace the cylinder seals. Please message me if you are available to volunteer for the repair work as part of the work group


[1/3/2020 11:56 AM] canibalcrab
What do we think would happen if I shorted the 12v on the starter to the ignition


[1/3/2020 11:57 AM] canibalcrab
Looking to test the starter


[1/3/2020 12:01 PM] andrew5152
what kind of car?


[1/3/2020 12:02 PM] canibalcrab
Jeep Grand Cherokee


[1/3/2020 12:02 PM] canibalcrab
95


[1/3/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
short version: there's 2 leads to most starters, a fat one, and a skinny one. The skinny one carries 12v from the ignition switch when it's turned to start. the fat one carries 12v to turn the motor


[1/3/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
jumper the fat one and the skinny one, and it should spin


[1/3/2020 12:03 PM] andrew5152
(be sure you're out of gear/in park, parking brake on, etc.)


[1/3/2020 12:05 PM] nullinterface
and the housing itself tends to ground to the engine block which grounds to the battery


[1/3/2020 12:06 PM] nullinterface
although I'm forgetting if the F150's starter had a ground cable


[1/3/2020 12:07 PM] andrew5152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAjMO3Zu88s shows making the jumper with a screwdriver

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[1/3/2020 12:09 PM] andrew5152
most grounds paths are provided by the unit being bolted to the transmission/block assembly (which in turn is properly grounded). but sometimes we put an auxiliary pathway, but there's virtually never a "good place" to attach another ground wire TO the starter (and it should be unnecessary)


[1/3/2020 12:11 PM] canibalcrab
Neat


[1/3/2020 12:12 PM] canibalcrab
Starter totally works

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[1/3/2020 12:12 PM] nullinterface
if I recall the design theory ... "signal" wire closes the solenoid which brings the motor gear into contact with the engine (flywheel?) which simultaneously closes contacts on the starter motor itself


[1/3/2020 12:12 PM] canibalcrab
Can't test further because she took both keys


[1/3/2020 12:13 PM] canibalcrab
But it seems like the ignition switch is the issue


[1/3/2020 12:13 PM] nullinterface
solenoid has enough wheaties to make the starter itself spin a little whenever there's misalignment during the engagement phase


[1/3/2020 12:14 PM] nullinterface
and surely a generous bevel on the starter gear to smooth the transition


[1/3/2020 12:17 PM] andrew5152
the nature of a bendix means that if you fling the gear out like the solenoid does, it'll spin a bit. and the bevel is indeed generous. I still marvel that the thing works at all, let alone as well as they do


[1/3/2020 12:17 PM] canibalcrab
Im shocked this Jeep still works


[1/3/2020 12:19 PM] canibalcrab
Won't start, but starter kicks. Previously I had to turn the fan a bit to get it to start


[1/3/2020 12:20 PM] canibalcrab
Presumably to engage different teeth


[1/3/2020 2:13 PM] aceat64
Could be a fuse


[1/3/2020 5:27 PM] canibalcrab
The mystery grows. Dani got home with the keys and the jeep started right up for me


[1/3/2020 6:37 PM] michaelb5250
Could just be an old starter


[1/3/2020 6:37 PM] michaelb5250
Like on the element


[1/3/2020 7:35 PM] andrew5152
what're the symptoms (for the umpteenth time, I presume)?


[1/3/2020 7:37 PM] canibalcrab
Yesterday it took 5 tries to start when she was leaving work.
This morning it wouldn't start at all


[1/3/2020 7:37 PM] canibalcrab
It started for me when I tried when she got home


[1/3/2020 7:38 PM] canibalcrab
Allen insists that the problems only exist in her head since we can't get them to show up


[1/3/2020 7:46 PM] michaelb5250
I mean it's not an uncommon symptom for a bad starter but it is suspicious if it only occurs for one person.


[1/3/2020 10:32 PM] aceat64
could be you are cranking it for longer and she's just quick cranking it


[1/3/2020 10:34 PM] canibalcrab
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[1/3/2020 10:41 PM] andrew5152
what happens when it doesn't start? (e.g. clicking sound but  no crank; lights on dash dim but no crank;spinning noise but no crank;nothing at all...)
you mentioned "turning the fan"... how did that play out?


[1/3/2020 10:42 PM] canibalcrab
Turning the fan got it to turn over


[1/3/2020 10:42 PM] aceat64
like it got stuck?


[1/3/2020 10:42 PM] canibalcrab
Otherwise last time she was having this issue, it wasn't spinning the flywheel


[1/3/2020 10:43 PM] canibalcrab
Like turning the fan let it engage different teeth


[1/3/2020 10:43 PM] canibalcrab
I figured it just had some busted gear teeth


[1/3/2020 10:44 PM] andrew5152
do you get a faster than normal spinning sound?
grinding?


[1/3/2020 10:45 PM] andrew5152
you're right. if turning the fan (and, thus, the engine) a few degrees let it grab, then you're probably facing a ring gear problem. Remedies usually involve trans R&R, ring gear R&R (sometimes manifests as a flexplate R&R, depending on parts availability for that model, etc.)


[1/3/2020 10:45 PM] andrew5152
but one would certainly like to be certain of that before diving in...


[1/3/2020 10:47 PM] canibalcrab
Yeah i think we settled on just having to turn the fan every so often


[1/3/2020 10:47 PM] canibalcrab
But she reported that not working in this case


[1/3/2020 10:48 PM] canibalcrab
Maybe not enough turns


[1/4/2020 8:53 AM] andrew5152
It's an automatic, right? Cause bumping over a stick would be much easier, but I can't imagine this one is...


[1/4/2020 9:02 AM] canibalcrab
It is automatic


[1/9/2020 3:43 PM] denzukoatwork2317
I hear there's an air pump one can use to inflate a bike tire in automotive. where is it stored?


[1/9/2020 6:04 PM] hon1nbo
would be one of the air chucks in general; I'm aware of any other inflators


[1/10/2020 12:27 PM] nullinterface
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/bod-2020-01-12-outdoor-conversion-vehicles-committee/67019

if this is campervans, trailers, whatnot then those are some **big** projects in terms of space and tonnage


[1/10/2020 12:28 PM] nullinterface
gonna speculate it all sprang from this thread:
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/team-building-for-party-bus-conversion-and-gypsy-wagons/66791

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[1/10/2020 12:31 PM] andrew5152
prob'ly


[1/10/2020 12:31 PM] andrew5152
still looks like a SIG to me


[1/10/2020 12:31 PM] andrew5152
don't need a sponsoring committee, either, as far as I know, unless you start wanting space or $

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[1/10/2020 12:31 PM] andrew5152
(control of)


[1/10/2020 12:32 PM] andrew5152
if you and your buddies just want to meet up and work within existing areas, with existing tools... no need for all this overhead


[1/10/2020 12:33 PM] nullinterface
suspect the interest is in acquiring *budget*


[1/10/2020 12:34 PM] andrew5152
hm


[1/10/2020 12:34 PM] andrew5152
for pizza & beer?


[1/10/2020 12:34 PM] nullinterface
*an exercise left to the reader*

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[1/10/2020 12:34 PM] aceat64
I can't think of any tools that would be specific to their needs, that aren't generally automotive tools


[1/10/2020 12:34 PM] stephenie.
Jewelry Small Metals, Printmaking, and Glassworks, off the top of my head, started out as SIGs under other committees.  They didn't walk in and say, "We want to be a committee" right off the bat.

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[1/10/2020 12:38 PM] stephenie.
They earned that status over months and years of teaching classes, gathering active members and instructors, petitioning their host committees for tools and materials...until they outgrew their host's real estate.  At that point, they petitioned the Board, with the confidence that they were sustainable and could handle the added level of responsibility.

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[1/10/2020 12:39 PM] andrew5152
well stated


[1/10/2020 12:46 PM] michaelb5250
I just can't think of any tools they need or any interior space that'd be useful. It'd be better if they started as a SIG and if, over the next few months, they find that space or tools are needed, and auto isn't suitable, they could be upgraded. But there's not a lot of space to give out anyways, we kinda allocated most of it in expansion.


[1/10/2020 2:31 PM] canibalcrab
I'd also consider how much the vanlife people liked to store vehicles behind the space


[1/10/2020 2:47 PM] andrew5152
you KNOW (well, hope, anyway) that is ON peoples' MIND... Fairly? Who knows, but please TELL ME we haven't already forgotten Camp DMS...


[1/10/2020 2:48 PM] sewingstuff2561
Yeah I want to do a camper van but the population is too fond of living at DMS to risk a committee.


[1/10/2020 3:51 PM] hon1nbo
Reminder: At 8pm on Sunday I will be tagging out the lift for service starting on Monday morning.


[1/14/2020 1:08 PM] kenpurcell
We need to build a RC car https://youtu.be/IOLzpBzUXZs

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[1/16/2020 3:32 PM] aceat64
interesting, I disconnected the two batteries in my jeep from each other, one reads 12.6 the other 12.8


[1/16/2020 3:33 PM] aceat64
they're connected in parallel (except for this test) so I think the 12.6 might be going bad


[1/16/2020 3:47 PM] aceat64
Connected both to chargers, the 12.8 said it was basically full and went into auto-maintain, the 12.6 says it's under 50% and is trying to charge, even though the system as a whole was on a charger since last night


[1/16/2020 3:47 PM] aceat64
Pretty sure I found my smoking gun


[1/16/2020 3:48 PM] aceat64
Explains the electrical issues I've been having


[1/16/2020 3:52 PM] aceat64
#itsajeepthing


[1/16/2020 3:52 PM] andrew5152
lol.


[1/16/2020 3:53 PM] andrew5152
your optimism that THIS will be "the thing" is adorable


[1/16/2020 3:53 PM] andrew5152
😄


[1/16/2020 3:54 PM] andrew5152
*copied & pasted from the last time I had this convo with a jeep "driver"


[1/16/2020 3:55 PM] canibalcrab
LOL


[1/16/2020 4:03 PM] aceat64
You're not wrong


[1/17/2020 4:09 PM] kenpurcell
Is the lift functional - had a complaint via email. Said RFID did not work. Is there RFID lockout on it?


[1/17/2020 4:12 PM] canibalcrab
It's likely not a fully updated list


[1/17/2020 5:22 PM] michaelb5250
There's an RFID box on it now. We're pretty sure 50% of the lift trained people won't be able to badge in


[1/17/2020 5:23 PM] michaelb5250
So, there's an online quiz on talk (and I hope in a QR code on the side of the lift), take the quiz and Jim will add you to the group


[1/17/2020 6:09 PM] kenpurcell
This person wanted a refund since he couldn't use the lift. Asked via email if tried to ask around but has not responded yet.


[1/17/2020 6:10 PM] canibalcrab
We aren't a rent a garage


[1/17/2020 6:25 PM] kenpurcell
Exactly but "customers"


[1/17/2020 7:13 PM] michaelb5250
Lolllll that's great. The cynic in me thinks we'll see more of this as we get bigger


[1/17/2020 7:19 PM] canibalcrab
we see a ton already


[1/17/2020 8:56 PM] aceat64
I think once someone threatened to "go to the BBB" and it was hard not to laugh


[1/17/2020 8:57 PM] aceat64
Even for-profit businesses don't care about the BBB most of the time, it's just such a weird and empty threat


[1/17/2020 8:57 PM] aceat64
It's like the pre-internet version of "I'll post about this on Yelp!"


[1/17/2020 9:05 PM] hon1nbo
@Lampy (Ken Purcell) we only need to validate their training. It's unfortunately the case that certain former instructors were terrible about adding students to the AD group.
In my time I've caught plenty of untrained members on the lift, or members that were not possible to track down after they did something stupid and didn't own up to it


[1/17/2020 9:06 PM] hon1nbo
I don't have the QR code on the side. @Patrickpleez1 said he'd handle that since I've got a heavy load but I may have to get something else written up.


[1/17/2020 9:06 PM] aceat64
Heck I'm probably not on the list, but I took the class probably before the AD group was done


[1/17/2020 9:07 PM] hon1nbo
So far I've had one person who reached out, I. Accounts@ no less, and complain that wasn't in the list. Others preemptively checked their status through me after reading the talk post but it wasn't necessary


[1/17/2020 9:57 PM] hon1nbo


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[1/17/2020 9:58 PM] hon1nbo
Automotive now has a chained feed scoop and a rolling bucket for spill absorbant

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[1/18/2020 8:42 AM] andrew5152
@aceat64 just checked (because I wanted to see for myself, too) and we are both in "Automotive 102 (Lift Training)" group, so  I guess Chuck did my training class right...

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[1/26/2020 10:14 PM] nullinterface


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[1/26/2020 10:14 PM] nullinterface
Spotted at the local Costco


[1/27/2020 6:13 AM] andrew5152
There's a SVX that appears to work @ the Costco in Plano on the tollway... It's not that one, though, I don't think. I never noticed those wheels on, if that is it. I thought it was green, too, instead of black. Maybe it's got a buddy...


[1/27/2020 7:49 AM] nullinterface
there are a few in the region


[1/27/2020 7:49 AM] nullinterface
I think I've seen a green one at DMS


[1/30/2020 6:21 PM] nullinterface
And wow is the Google photos image search terrifyingly capable


[1/30/2020 6:21 PM] nullinterface


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[1/30/2020 6:21 PM] nullinterface
Took that pic in 2016 at DMS


[1/30/2020 6:41 PM] andrew5152
dare I ask about your apparent *obsession* where Subaru SVX are concerned?


[2/4/2020 9:04 AM] nullinterface
you may dare.  a friend owned one briefly.  and they're oddities that are fairly easy to spot.


[2/4/2020 9:05 AM] nullinterface
something about that chart says **SELL SELL SELL** to me...

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[2/4/2020 9:10 AM] nullinterface
oh, and I wandered into this facebook group where people post photos of street finds and since I find myself photographing such vehicles anyway ...


[2/4/2020 9:33 AM] andrew5152
I've always been partial to Subaru, despite not having owned one. The SVX being the pinnacle of the 1990's, they were of course a source of intrigue. I've always wanted to gut the flat 6 in one to see how they're made, but owners are surprisingly stingy on that front...
I recall thinking "$30k for a SUBARU?!? They're NUTS!"
Followed shortly by "I dunno...Mitsubishi's asking that for their 3000GT, and apparently getting it..."
had no idea they were bringing the name back, either, til just now...
https://2019subarucars.com/category/svx/


[2/4/2020 9:49 AM] nullinterface
will it be a worthy revival or like reboots of 90s films?


[2/4/2020 9:50 AM] andrew5152
uuuum....


[2/4/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
reboots of 90s films, based on my 8 second glance...


[2/4/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
"plug in hybrid"


[2/4/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
ugly


[2/4/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
done here...


[2/4/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
😄


[2/4/2020 9:53 AM] nullinterface
I got sort of close to the Volt in 2017


[2/4/2020 9:54 AM] nullinterface
but the ~50 mile electric range, its *throw the A pillars as far forward as possible* design, lack of a useable rear seat for adults, general FWD meh feel, cost, and other weirdness convinced me not to


[2/4/2020 9:55 AM] nullinterface
in my view the problem with PHEVs is they're mostly shoehorned into ICE platforms thus have useless EV range


[2/4/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152
plus ethanol


[2/4/2020 9:56 AM] nullinterface
those that aren't are vanishingly rare such as the now-extinct Volt, the hilariously expensive and weird BMW i3, or the moreseo expensive and moreso weird BMW i8


[2/4/2020 9:56 AM] andrew5152
I don't want that stuff *sitting around* in my fuel tank...


[2/4/2020 9:56 AM] nullinterface
so you just don't buy gasoline in metro areas?


[2/4/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
amusingly, I see about 3 or 4 i3 on my way to/from work, and usally at least 1 of an assortment of 4 or so i8...


[2/4/2020 9:57 AM] nullinterface
I see i3's regularly, i8's almost never


[2/4/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
can't figure out who is springing for those things


[2/4/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
but someone is


[2/4/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
lol gotta take my phev to oklahoma for a re-fuel...


[2/4/2020 9:58 AM] nullinterface
the i8 is an example of an operating model that just doesn't make sense to me - a car that has to be plugged in daily **and** refueled weekly since it pretty much needs both power sources to perform optimally


[2/4/2020 9:58 AM] andrew5152
but they look *so damned cool*


[2/4/2020 9:58 AM] andrew5152
🙄


[2/4/2020 9:59 AM] nullinterface
i3 architecture makes the most sense to me for PHEV - long(ish) EV range with the ICE existing purely to spin a generator for more range ... only the range on the ICE is horrible due to bafflingly minuscule fuel tank capacity


[2/4/2020 10:00 AM] andrew5152
sure. but what makes even more sense to me is a full ev, with the "borrow" option for the full ice for whenever you take those long trips...


[2/4/2020 10:00 AM] andrew5152
although that's fraught with its problems, too...


[2/4/2020 10:00 AM] nullinterface
it's how the Volt was supposed to be designed, but then late in the design phase GM shot themselves in the foot by reworking it for better *fuel* economy as opposed to EV performance


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
I've known a few volt owners


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
the loved them


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
one of them is now bolt driver


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
loves it to death


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
🤷‍♂️


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
former subaru driver, no less...


[2/4/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
😄


[2/4/2020 10:02 AM] nullinterface
cool.  GM dealer I test drove with clearly gave no f_cks about the Volt.  parked end of the lot, *not charged*, grudging about the whole process


[2/4/2020 10:02 AM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 10:02 AM] andrew5152
well, that DOES make it seem appealing...


[2/4/2020 10:02 AM] nullinterface
I couldn't get a feel for how it was going to work out on the commute since, you know, the engine was spinning the whole time


[2/4/2020 10:03 AM] nullinterface
even on my ~60 mile daily drive ~80% would be electric


[2/4/2020 10:03 AM] andrew5152
yeah


[2/4/2020 10:03 AM] andrew5152
you have charger access @ work?


[2/4/2020 10:03 AM] nullinterface
no


[2/4/2020 10:04 AM] nullinterface
I'm not counting on that happening anytime ever


[2/4/2020 10:04 AM] andrew5152
but if it were to happen, would make the phev more appealing


[2/4/2020 10:04 AM] andrew5152
except for that whole ethanol sitting thing


[2/4/2020 10:04 AM] andrew5152
meh. just not a fan of the hybrid, as much as I want to be


[2/4/2020 10:04 AM] nullinterface
not really.  all workplace charging outside of halo employers like google is paid.


[2/4/2020 10:04 AM] andrew5152
just makes for 2 problematic technologies to try to coexist


[2/4/2020 10:05 AM] andrew5152
oh, sure. I just meant if you're employer were feeling altruistic and you could be the sole beneficiary at no other cost to you than the purchase...


[2/4/2020 10:05 AM] nullinterface
honestly expect to do the (financially) stupid thing and trade in the WRX on an appealing longer-range BEV once they become more palatable/accessible


[2/4/2020 10:05 AM] andrew5152
but we know the big boss would be that, were it to be


[2/4/2020 10:07 AM] nullinterface
Verizon was rolling chargers ... at the fancy HQ at Hidden Ridge in Irving, which was paid at some rate that was going to make buying gas at the station *right next to the rental car return at the airport* seem palatable


[2/4/2020 10:07 AM] nullinterface
but Verizon sold me and ~10,000 other employees to Frontier in 2016


[2/4/2020 10:08 AM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 10:08 AM] andrew5152
👋  buhbye


[2/4/2020 10:08 AM] andrew5152
👢


[2/4/2020 10:08 AM] nullinterface
maybe it will be the madness of the Cybertruck


[2/4/2020 10:09 AM] nullinterface
maybe the model 3 will come down a tad in price and TSLA will sort out their reliability problems


[2/4/2020 10:10 AM] nullinterface
maybe one of the incumbent OEMs will stop making grudging compliance cars and work out a deal with TSLA or roll their own ersatz supercharging networks that are priced reasonably


[2/4/2020 10:11 AM] nullinterface
as it stands the pricing on alternatives to the supercharger networks is madness


[2/4/2020 10:11 AM] nullinterface
although not sure what TSLA charges ~~plebes~~ *Model 3 drivers* to supercharge, either


[2/4/2020 10:13 AM] nullinterface
I expect to charge at home for my daily driving and will have other cars available for highway trips, but it would be interesting to make some highway trips in an EV - visit exciting places like *Sulphur Springs* or *Texarkana* on the way to/from the folks house


[2/4/2020 10:14 AM] nullinterface
Texarkana : 
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4600077,-94.0774905,3a,75y,154.21h,87.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svgRUDW_3c7mTVp9u9DtB9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Google Maps
Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.
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[2/4/2020 10:14 AM] agr0090
Varies by state, but I think around double what your home rate might be, still much cheaper than gas


[2/4/2020 10:14 AM] andrew5152
can't say I haven't seen any appeal to the BEV, but, despite shopping in the last new car round, couldn't take them seriously. The "Cybertruck" is NOT helping me take them any more seriously. And I'm not sure I could put into EM's coffer, no matter how good anything TSLA ever makes is. My loss, I know.


[2/4/2020 10:15 AM] andrew5152
lol. hafta eat a lotta pasta for all the necessary charging...


[2/4/2020 10:15 AM] andrew5152
My folks live in Texarkana...


[2/4/2020 10:15 AM] andrew5152
Sulfur Springs is old stomping ground (well, ish...)


[2/4/2020 10:15 AM] nullinterface
no stake in TSLA myself, they're just the only automaker that seems serious about making EV's with any real feeling


[2/4/2020 10:16 AM] nullinterface
@AGr merely ~$0.20 per kWH isn't bad at all.  the other fast-charging networks seem to be aiming for charging more than what a tank of premium gas goes for...


[2/4/2020 10:18 AM] nullinterface
Cybertruck is indeed hideous ... but hey so is the WRX in a way.  Suspect it will see some changes before coming to frution but I hope they maintain the stainless exterior.


[2/4/2020 10:18 AM] andrew5152
well... I hear that makes it *nigh impossible* for the drug dogs to get a scent...


[2/4/2020 10:18 AM] nullinterface
hahahah


[2/4/2020 10:18 AM] agr0090
Could be like me and buy a model s and get free unlimited supercharging


[2/4/2020 10:19 AM] agr0090
I only have to drive 2 million miles supercharging and car pays for itself...


[2/4/2020 10:19 AM] nullinterface
I don't need a vehicle that's such a huge percentage of what my house goes for


[2/4/2020 10:19 AM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 10:19 AM] andrew5152
but you make a solid point about just getting to drive home to charge, instead of hunting for this week's low-cost refuler winner


[2/4/2020 10:19 AM] nullinterface
I **very** grudgingly bought the WRX for ~double what the Mazda 3 went for and it's not double the car


[2/4/2020 10:20 AM] nullinterface
using the likes of gasbuddy makes sense.  driving around not so much so...


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] andrew5152
gasbuddy got banned from my apps back when we had a dzl


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] andrew5152
it was always wrong, and not just about the price, but where the juice was


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] agr0090
I'm waiting for new roadster, then I could have a car worth more than my house


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] andrew5152
jet powered, no less!


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] nullinterface
the inflation in new car prices is baffling


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] andrew5152
no, no. ROCKET powered!


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] andrew5152
my bad


[2/4/2020 10:21 AM] nullinterface
and even with that inflation the OEMs cry about how they can't turn a profit


[2/4/2020 10:26 AM] andrew5152
Mind Blowing!

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[2/4/2020 10:26 AM] andrew5152
$30k for a friggin' truck!?!


[2/4/2020 10:26 AM] nullinterface
buy that old-and-busted model S from you for a few dimes on the dollar after you nick that Roadster ...


[2/4/2020 10:27 AM] andrew5152
if you beat me to the dumpster, you can fish it out for free


[2/4/2020 10:27 AM] agr0090
Its holding up well, only had one small issue where steering wheel button broke, and a service tech came to my house to fix it


[2/4/2020 10:29 AM] aceat64
What's the specs on that truck though? $30k for 4x4 isn't bad


[2/4/2020 10:30 AM] aceat64
My Jeep was $39k


[2/4/2020 10:30 AM] andrew5152
base model


[2/4/2020 10:30 AM] nullinterface
entry-level heavy duty trucks seem to start at ~35K now


[2/4/2020 10:30 AM] andrew5152
starts at


[2/4/2020 10:31 AM] andrew5152
granted, the f150 payload/towing starts at the 3/4 ton class now, but that's still nuts


[2/4/2020 10:32 AM] nullinterface
I anticipate I might want to tow ~10k lbs someday thus I keep somewhat apprised of the heavy-duty truck market...


[2/4/2020 10:32 AM] andrew5152
even more mind blowing, no v8 option in the raptor at any cost, but that's a different discussion


[2/4/2020 10:33 AM] nullinterface
Raptor has leaned ecoboost for years now, no?


[2/4/2020 10:34 AM] andrew5152
yeah


[2/4/2020 10:34 AM] andrew5152
but it'sblasphemy


[2/4/2020 10:34 AM] andrew5152
blown 6.2 or nothing, thanks


[2/4/2020 10:34 AM] andrew5152
(not that I was in danger of buying one anyway...)


[2/4/2020 10:35 AM] nullinterface
the Raptor has a nigh-unshakable association with the brodozer demo


[2/4/2020 10:36 AM] andrew5152
which surprises me that it's made the jump with the ecoboost


[2/4/2020 10:37 AM] andrew5152
but I guess they're a kinder, gentler brodozer demo than I thought


[2/4/2020 10:37 AM] nullinterface
*entry-level, turnkey* brodozer demo perhaps


[2/4/2020 10:37 AM] andrew5152
what else runs in that category?


[2/4/2020 10:37 AM] nullinterface
as opposed to the upper tier where they won't sully themselves with 1500-class machines nor gasoline


[2/4/2020 10:40 AM] andrew5152
oh geebus! There's a Ranger Raptor!
https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/ranger-raptor
talk about beating a dead horse

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[2/4/2020 10:40 AM] andrew5152
but I guess if it's spitting out money, you do it...


[2/4/2020 10:40 AM] nullinterface
not for USDM


[2/4/2020 10:41 AM] andrew5152
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g16672306/ford-ranger-raptor-revealed-and-its-coming-to-the-u-s-official-photos-and-info-gallery/

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You gotta believe we're in line for this bad-ass mid-size pickup.
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[2/4/2020 10:41 AM] andrew5152
did they change their mind?


[2/4/2020 10:41 AM] andrew5152
(you can tell I keep up!)


[2/4/2020 10:41 AM] nullinterface
or maybe it will happen after all.  I know that the rest of the world has had the new midsize Ranger Raptor for years.


[2/4/2020 10:43 AM] nullinterface
but the rest of the world is not as fond of the F150 as north America is


[2/4/2020 10:45 AM] andrew5152
hm


[2/4/2020 10:45 AM] andrew5152
yeah


[2/4/2020 10:45 AM] andrew5152
wikipedia (the bible of all things!) says it's not coming due to overlap with the f150-based raptor and the dzl so popular elsewhere isn't licensed in the us (and overlaps the ecoboost)


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] nullinterface
*lineup* issues as well with the cheaper Ranger presenting the risk of cannibalizing F150 sales


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] andrew5152
yeah


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] andrew5152
They're being pretty careful with the existing one


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] andrew5152
4 door only


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] andrew5152
shortbed only


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] andrew5152
2.3 ecoboost only


[2/4/2020 10:46 AM] andrew5152
we'll see what tomorrow brings


[2/4/2020 10:50 AM] nullinterface
dzl being ... *diesel?*


[2/4/2020 10:50 AM] andrew5152
yes


[2/4/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface
I kind of miss compact trucks


[2/4/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface
but I'm also well aware of their limitations


[2/4/2020 10:57 AM] andrew5152
ditto


[2/4/2020 10:58 AM] nullinterface
for my present purposes my '03 Ranger is adequate


[2/4/2020 10:58 AM] nullinterface
don't need a fullsize truck for occasional Home Despot runs nor have I routinely needed more mass/volume than its bed can handle


[2/4/2020 11:00 AM] andrew5152
I shopped pretty hard for one of those, but coudln't find one in the price range/condition I was willing to accept


[2/4/2020 11:00 AM] andrew5152
(there are several out there now that I've jumped into something else)


[2/4/2020 11:00 AM] andrew5152
plus, parts...


[2/4/2020 11:00 AM] andrew5152
can't believe you can't buy a front wheel spindle for one


[2/4/2020 11:00 AM] andrew5152
but I can't find one.


[2/4/2020 11:01 AM] andrew5152
and people just looove the v6


[2/4/2020 11:01 AM] andrew5152
couldn't pay me enough to have one


[2/4/2020 11:01 AM] andrew5152
the 4 banger, I'd have all day long


[2/4/2020 11:01 AM] andrew5152
but I digress


[2/4/2020 11:07 AM] nullinterface
as someone that owned a 4-banger Ranger for years ... ***F that noise***


[2/4/2020 11:08 AM] nullinterface
best that engine could dream of achieving was "maintain highway speed under ideal conditions"


[2/4/2020 11:09 AM] nullinterface
the 3.0L *Vulcan* V6 has its shortcomings for sure, but at least it can accelerate to highway speed under a wide range of conditions and maintain that speed


[2/4/2020 11:09 AM] nullinterface
4.0L might even be satisfactory


[2/4/2020 11:11 AM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 11:11 AM] aceat64
I'm really looking forward to the cybertruck tbh


[2/4/2020 11:11 AM] andrew5152
as someone who's worked on a shytetonne of these beasts, a v6 ford will never set foot in my stable


[2/4/2020 11:11 AM] aceat64
500 miles is more range than my Jeep


[2/4/2020 11:12 AM] aceat64
going to be great for long road trips, since we seem to take an hour at each stop anyway, it's not actually slower to charge vs gas up


[2/4/2020 11:12 AM] andrew5152
ROFL


[2/4/2020 11:13 AM] andrew5152
I guess if you're very VERY lackadaisical in your road trip scheduling, you're not going to lose time to charging


[2/4/2020 11:14 AM] aceat64
if it's just me and Nicole, stops are short, but any kind of group trip the stops always take forever


[2/4/2020 11:14 AM] nullinterface
Four hours to the folks house if traffic cooperates - a trip I've made dozens of times - and I've done it nonstop perhaps twice


[2/4/2020 11:14 AM] aceat64
especially if the cruel bus is involved lol


[2/4/2020 11:14 AM] andrew5152
that's good, as long as you plan it


[2/4/2020 11:14 AM] andrew5152
trips should be about the *trip*


[2/4/2020 11:14 AM] nullinterface
refueling is 15+ minutes


[2/4/2020 11:15 AM] nullinterface
especially travelling with dogs


[2/4/2020 11:15 AM] andrew5152
hm.


[2/4/2020 11:15 AM] andrew5152
when we roll to my dad's, not quite 4 hrs, I think, 1 stop, 10 minutes, no gas


[2/4/2020 11:15 AM] aceat64
a lot of the super chargers are placed near tourist trap kind of things now lol


[2/4/2020 11:16 AM] aceat64
so you can charge up, get that classic road trip feeling that the trinket you just bought was probably a rip off, and then get back on the road


[2/4/2020 11:16 AM] andrew5152
wrong! our trek is only 3 hours, not 4


[2/4/2020 11:16 AM] andrew5152
that might make a difference...


[2/4/2020 11:17 AM] aceat64
with a cybertruck and 500 miles of range, probably don't have to stop at all to charge on a trip like that


[2/4/2020 11:17 AM] aceat64
just charge at the destination, even if it's a slow charge


[2/4/2020 11:17 AM] andrew5152
except for air conditioning and sitting in traffic


[2/4/2020 11:18 AM] aceat64
people camp in their Teslas, running AC for a day or more


[2/4/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152
but yeah, if it gets anywhere near the projected range, it'd be hypothetically good to go


[2/4/2020 11:18 AM] aceat64
100kWh is a lot of power


[2/4/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152
still ugly as fuck


[2/4/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152
but good to go


[2/4/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152
and i'll confess, if it's only $30k, I'll look into it


[2/4/2020 11:19 AM] andrew5152
but I think Elon's saying $50?


[2/4/2020 11:19 AM] andrew5152
yawn


[2/4/2020 11:19 AM] nullinterface
I get that for *vocational* purposes the longer recharge interval vs refueling is a problem.  but for road trips fast-charging ~50% capacity in ~30 minutes doesn't strike me as the drag that it's made out to be


[2/4/2020 11:19 AM] andrew5152
I can guarantee *I'd* be going ape-shit waiting half an hour for a recharge


[2/4/2020 11:20 AM] andrew5152
I cannot speak for others


[2/4/2020 11:21 AM] nullinterface
I remember those road trips as a kid.  16 freaking hours a day in the car to *make time* or bursts of 30-120 minutes on the road to spend 15-30 minutes with relatives dotting the MN or NC countryside...


[2/4/2020 11:22 AM] nullinterface
my prototypical road trip to the folks' house in a Tesla would take a bit longer charging in Sulphur Springs or Texarkana (the two superchargers along I-30) but I wouldn't care


[2/4/2020 11:23 AM] nullinterface
initial pricing on the base model cybertruck closer to $40k IIRC, but that's also ~250 miles range?


[2/4/2020 11:24 AM] nullinterface
https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery

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[2/4/2020 11:25 AM] nullinterface
• base : 250 miles / $40k
• dual motor : 300 miles/ $50k
• tri motor : 500 miles / $70k


[2/4/2020 11:25 AM] nullinterface
all *speculative*, natch


[2/4/2020 11:27 AM] andrew5152
hm


[2/4/2020 11:27 AM] andrew5152
more motors = more range...


[2/4/2020 11:27 AM] andrew5152
😄


[2/4/2020 11:27 AM] agr0090
big question is if it will be 120kwh or 200kwh battery pack


[2/4/2020 11:28 AM] aceat64
Tesla motor tech is really good too, higher efficiency than anyone else


[2/4/2020 11:29 AM] aceat64
mostly because they've just been iteratively improving it and all those tiny 0.5%-1% gains add up


[2/4/2020 11:29 AM] agr0090
with more motors they are likely different, more powerful in rear but more efficient in front for highway driving


[2/4/2020 11:29 AM] aceat64
yeah, I think the newer powertrains already do that?


[2/4/2020 11:30 AM] agr0090
the raven update on S/X yeah


[2/4/2020 11:30 AM] agr0090
use the model 3 motor in front


[2/4/2020 11:30 AM] aceat64
iirc they do A/C motors for power, and turn them off when at highway because they coast better


[2/4/2020 11:32 AM] nullinterface
@A. Spencer(jast) the way the tiers breakdown is you get a larger pack at each tier, although the distinction between the single- and dual-motor may well be software


[2/4/2020 11:33 AM] andrew5152
I was just amusing myself with the false reasoning


[2/4/2020 11:44 AM] nullinterface
anyway.  I think I could live with an EV for commuting and with reasonable public fast-charging could use it for road trips.


[2/4/2020 11:44 AM] aceat64
unless it's raining I ride my electric motorcycle to work, and it's been great


[2/4/2020 11:44 AM] aceat64
don't ever have to even think about stopping for gas/charge, since I just charge at home over night


[2/4/2020 11:45 AM] nullinterface
that thing is alarmingly quiet, btw


[2/4/2020 11:45 AM] aceat64
I love the noise it makes when accelerating


[2/4/2020 11:45 AM] nullinterface
some variant on *whirrr* I imagine?


[2/4/2020 11:45 AM] aceat64
basically yeah, I should record it


[2/4/2020 11:46 AM] nullinterface
suspect a lot of it is reduction gear noise


[2/4/2020 11:46 AM] andrew5152
is Andrew not making the *legally required* "passenger warning" noises when driving it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLr4CwkhvAc

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[2/4/2020 11:46 AM] yashsedai
lol


[2/4/2020 11:46 AM] aceat64
I bought my Zero before any of those pesky laws might go into effect that require "noise"


[2/4/2020 11:47 AM] aceat64
there's an interview from a recent race where the 1st place winner was talking about the 2nd place winner (who was on a zero) and he just kept saying how surprised he was that the guy was right there on his tail because he couldn't hear him


[2/4/2020 11:47 AM] andrew5152
They are pesky, I agree, but having been on the short end of an EV sneak attack, I can see the desire on the part of the pedestrian


[2/4/2020 11:48 AM] aceat64
I can see it for cars, but if I hit a person we're both going to have a bad time

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[2/4/2020 11:48 AM] andrew5152
and what with the cell phone usage practices of drivers...


[2/4/2020 11:48 AM] nullinterface
wish I could find this unusually candid interview that some of the execs at Harley-Davidson did a few years before the LiveWire was a reality - something to the effect of *Yeah they hate us at Sturgis, but that demo **also isn't buying bikes any more.***


[2/4/2020 11:49 AM] aceat64
most of the anti-ev motorcycle riders are old and have already bought their last bike


[2/4/2020 11:49 AM] aceat64
even if they don't realize it's their last one


[2/4/2020 11:49 AM] nullinterface
the culture war over EVs confuses me


[2/4/2020 11:50 AM] aceat64
I don't get the hate for them


[2/4/2020 11:50 AM] aceat64
I'm not going to say an EV is the best option every time, because the battery tech ain't there _yet_


[2/4/2020 11:50 AM] nullinterface
You can always find someone that's pro-EV that also has a mad-on against SUVs and the like, but they're a tiny minority


[2/4/2020 11:50 AM] aceat64
but they absolutely wreck ICE on pretty much all comparisons other than range


[2/4/2020 11:51 AM] andrew5152
you *might be* mistaking hatred for the "EVs are the ONLY savior for all of Mankind's maladies" crew for hatred of the actual vehicles themselves...


[2/4/2020 11:51 AM] aceat64
these days I see a lot more anti-EV and I do anti-ICE


[2/4/2020 11:51 AM] nullinterface
you can find a few more people trying to shoehorn them into every possible ICE role, but I don't take them seriously either


[2/4/2020 11:52 AM] aceat64
Tesla did a pretty good job of making EVs cool


[2/4/2020 11:52 AM] andrew5152
but then Elon just keeeeeps running his mouth


[2/4/2020 11:52 AM] aceat64
so now there's a ton of non-ideological buyers of EVs


[2/4/2020 11:52 AM] nullinterface
that's what he does


[2/4/2020 11:52 AM] nullinterface
as does Jeremy Clarkson


[2/4/2020 11:52 AM] andrew5152
yeah, but Jeremy knows he's being an asshole


[2/4/2020 11:53 AM] aceat64
use to be the only people buying a Prius were the kind to _constantly_ talk about how they're somehow single handedly saving the planet


[2/4/2020 11:53 AM] aceat64
then hybrids just became another normal type of car


[2/4/2020 11:54 AM] nullinterface
and now hybrids are a big chunk of car sales because *surprise* it makes sense to build a vehicle with a smaller engine and buffer some of its output beyond average demand into a battery and use a motor to supplement peak demand


[2/4/2020 11:54 AM] aceat64
I think EVs are basically going through the same type of adoption curve


[2/4/2020 11:54 AM] nullinterface
because we've known for decades that it only takes ~20HP to maintain highway speed


[2/4/2020 11:55 AM] aceat64
the original hybrid ads focused on the environmental impact, and EVs kind of had the same, but go look at Tesla's site and all they really talk about is the performance and features


[2/4/2020 11:58 AM] nullinterface
@A. Spencer(jast) the cult of TSLA and Musk is an annoyance, for sure


[2/4/2020 11:59 AM] nullinterface
It's hitched its ego to the brand and the personality cult for sure, but it's simply a variation on what you've seen in *car culture* for decades with other brands


[2/4/2020 11:59 AM] nullinterface
i.e. in my experience Mustang guys only know (the strong points) about Mustangs and hate everything else


[2/4/2020 12:00 PM] andrew5152
that's because mustangs only *have* strong points

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[2/4/2020 12:00 PM] andrew5152
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[2/4/2020 12:01 PM] nullinterface
when your platform features a **truck axle** ...


[2/4/2020 12:01 PM] nullinterface
(mechanical) strength is indeed a byproduct


[2/4/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
ah, the old "attack the live axle" routine...


[2/4/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
(but yeah, that DID affect handling)


[2/4/2020 12:02 PM] nullinterface
aye.  going for the low-hanging fruit.  because simplistic *platform ragging*.


[2/4/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
chevy STILL uses pushrods...


[2/4/2020 12:02 PM] andrew5152
😄


[2/4/2020 12:03 PM] andrew5152
(and makes 700hp in the latest 'vette with those pushrods, but never mind that)


[2/4/2020 12:03 PM] nullinterface
funny how far they've been able to push their *57 flavors of LS*


[2/4/2020 12:04 PM] andrew5152
I confess to being amazed at what they've done with the smallblock pushrod v8


[2/4/2020 12:04 PM] andrew5152
it was DOA nearly 20 years ago


[2/4/2020 12:04 PM] andrew5152
because that platform was played out


[2/4/2020 12:04 PM] andrew5152
yet here they are


[2/4/2020 12:05 PM] andrew5152
wish I'd gotten to be a part of that engineering team


[2/4/2020 12:12 PM] aceat64
Mustangs are great... at losing control trying to do a burnout when leaving Cars and Coffee


[2/4/2020 12:14 PM] andrew5152
ROFL


[2/4/2020 12:14 PM] andrew5152
not so funny that those asshats appear at all good car events eventually (and they don't all drive mustangs)


[2/4/2020 12:18 PM] aceat64
it's basically a meme at this point that Mustangs fail at burnouts


[2/4/2020 12:18 PM] nullinterface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMtU6zeX2KU

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[2/4/2020 12:24 PM] andrew5152
lol


[2/4/2020 12:24 PM] andrew5152
we had an...xtc, I think they're called? rotting in the back 40


[2/4/2020 12:24 PM] andrew5152
oops. just xt, no c
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[2/4/2020 12:25 PM] andrew5152
pistol grip shifter, flush close door handles and all


[2/5/2020 7:33 AM] nullinterface
roads were a tad hairy this morning


[2/5/2020 7:59 AM] yashsedai
lol they were wet?


[2/5/2020 8:09 AM] nullinterface
a drop of moisture or few may have fallen on the roads somewhere within 50 miles


[2/5/2020 8:16 AM] nullinterface
queue the President Madagascar memes


[2/5/2020 8:50 AM] nullinterface
an exciting day for TSLA stock

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[2/5/2020 10:20 AM] aceat64
Knowing when to take profits is one of the hardest parts of trading


[2/5/2020 10:24 AM] agr0090
When every post on wallstreetbets is about Tesla (like yesterday) you know you've reached peak fomo


[2/5/2020 12:12 PM] nullinterface
seems like when a stock gains ~50% in a day or so without any underlying fundamental change, one should beware the coming cliff


[2/5/2020 12:13 PM] agr0090
Yeah, I'm glad its at more sane levels so can climb reasonably over time, next huge event is battery day in ~april


[2/5/2020 12:14 PM] nullinterface
not sure it's at a properly *sane* level yet


[2/5/2020 12:36 PM] aceat64
I'm looking to buy some at a bit lower I think


[2/5/2020 12:37 PM] aceat64
interesting that the best trade last year was sell BTC at it's high and buy TSLA, and now that TSLA is dropping from ATH the same day BTC is pumping


[2/6/2020 9:05 AM] nullinterface
no sleetageddon this morning


[2/6/2020 9:24 AM] yashsedai
completely disappointing


[2/6/2020 9:31 AM] michaelb5250
Heard it snowed in deton, but that's all


[2/6/2020 6:01 PM] thegrandpoobah6849
Who is the head of the auto group? I've taken the  class for the lift but my fob doesn't work for it.


[2/6/2020 6:02 PM] andrew5152
jim (hon1nbo) is


[2/6/2020 6:03 PM] andrew5152
instructions are on talk, in the thread pertaining to the adding of the RFID


[2/6/2020 6:03 PM] andrew5152
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/automotive-lift-rfid-changeover/67176

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[2/6/2020 6:15 PM] hon1nbo
@Gustavo the Mexican Bear I'm currently AFK and operating mobile. send me a message with who your instructor was, when you took, it, and a calendar link if applicable


[2/6/2020 6:15 PM] hon1nbo
if you took it without a calendar link and the instructor can't attest to the presence then we have a little quiz that can help us determine competency linked in that post


[2/6/2020 6:28 PM] doug.emes
Honestly take the quiz regardless.  It's a great refresher.


[2/17/2020 11:26 AM] sewingstuff2561
Hey car question-in a Honda Element if there’s a clicking/grinding sound that’s worse when accelerating and turning what’s wrong with it?


[2/17/2020 11:27 AM] canibalcrab
Might be a lose part


[2/17/2020 11:28 AM] canibalcrab
In the wheel area


[2/17/2020 11:28 AM] canibalcrab
Not something I've been warned about on mine though. Or encountered


[2/17/2020 11:29 AM] canibalcrab
Or like road trash got caught on a caliper or something


[2/17/2020 11:30 AM] agr0090
Maybe wheel bearing, hard to say


[2/17/2020 11:31 AM] agr0090
Would have to jack it up and turn by hand to try and see


[2/17/2020 11:34 AM] michaelb5250
Lots of things. CV joints spring to mind. Best thing is like Brandon said, get it on the lift/jackstands and poke around.


[2/17/2020 11:40 AM] andrew5152
obviously bad cv joint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c1nxR7aq1o

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[3/3/2020 7:14 PM] michaelb5250
Koeinsonieseggionesegg announced their next car today. With a freevalve engine. 

https://www.koenigsegg.com/gemera/tiny-friendly-giant-engine/


[3/3/2020 7:23 PM] andrew5152
🤞 lotto lotto lotto


[3/3/2020 7:23 PM] andrew5152
honestly, I'd rather work there than own one


[3/3/2020 7:26 PM] michaelb5250
I just wanna put that engine in a Miata. 600hp and 150kg.


[3/3/2020 7:27 PM] michaelb5250
Sorry. 70kg, ~150lbs.


[3/3/2020 7:27 PM] andrew5152
that IS  more impressive...


[3/3/2020 7:27 PM] andrew5152
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[3/4/2020 5:27 PM] kenpurcell
Dude is nuts! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6o-bb-axs

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[3/4/2020 5:29 PM] kenpurcell
skip to 6:00 for tire chirping squealing burning fun


[3/4/2020 5:31 PM] kenpurcell
I thought $500/ea/tires didn't last long on my car


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[3/7/2020 1:33 PM] robert22
My truck was attacked


[3/7/2020 1:33 PM] robert22
Pepper spray is going on those suckers


[3/7/2020 1:36 PM] canibalcrab
?


[3/7/2020 1:37 PM] canibalcrab
Rats?


[3/7/2020 1:56 PM] robert22
Squirrels 🐿


[3/7/2020 1:56 PM] robert22
I park beside a family of them


[3/12/2020 10:01 PM] nullinterface
Ford allegedly backfilling the vacuum left by the departure of the Fiesta and the Focus from their lineup with a ... compact *unibody* pickup


[3/12/2020 10:02 PM] nullinterface
Since the nu Ranger is a "midsize" truck with more oomph than the base F150 had perhaps a decade and a half ago


[3/12/2020 10:02 PM] skyspook
So what, they're going to export a ute or something?


[3/12/2020 10:10 PM] nullinterface
that's the betting money


[3/12/2020 10:12 PM] nullinterface
https://www.motor1.com/news/302288/ford-focus-pickup-announcement/

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[3/12/2020 10:12 PM] nullinterface
Focus platform.  1.5 or 2.0L turbo engines.  FWD base on the base model for sure :/ .


[3/12/2020 10:14 PM] skyspook
Ugh, it's like some weird crossover ute. Just not for me I suppose


[3/12/2020 10:14 PM] nullinterface
yeah


[3/12/2020 10:14 PM] yashsedai
GROSS


[3/12/2020 10:14 PM] yashsedai
KILL IT WITH MUCH FIRE


[3/12/2020 10:14 PM] nullinterface
I've owned two Rangers and the reboot didn't much interest me


[3/12/2020 10:15 PM] nullinterface
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a31281106/ford-small-pickup-coming-2021/
*"One dealer in attendance told Automotive News that the truck looked like the original Ranger."*

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Ford Shows Dealers Its Sub-$20,000 Small Pickup Coming Next Year
The unibody compact pickup will slot in under the Ranger in the Ford lineup.
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[3/12/2020 10:16 PM] nullinterface
suspect its capabilities may well be in line with the original Ranger


[3/12/2020 10:16 PM] nullinterface
mine is a fantastic weekend project hauler


[3/12/2020 10:48 PM] nullinterface
But it's not going to pull much more than some jetskis, a micro pop-up camper, or a small utility trailer.  Bed capacity something like ¼ ton: most *sedans* can move more.


[3/13/2020 11:03 AM] doug.emes
I loved our focus


[3/13/2020 11:17 AM] andrew5152
isn't this basically the transit connect ute?


[3/13/2020 1:22 PM] nullinterface
automotive press ain't saying


[3/24/2020 7:56 PM] pwnieluver
https://youtu.be/qJjL-NWeoVI

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Van Tour: DIY conversion with a stealth van (FAST and INEXPENSIVE)
This video is a van tour of a do it yourself (DIY) van conversion of a minivan into a camper. The video will give good ideas how to convert any van into a camper. With this example, you’ll see that you can do a great DIY conversion even with a minivan!

It shows that anybody c...
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[3/24/2020 7:57 PM] pwnieluver
I really wanna build this, i'm tired of my family


[3/24/2020 7:59 PM] nullinterface
it's only time, money, effort, and overbuying materials to cover the f_ckups and design errors!


[3/24/2020 7:59 PM] canibalcrab
As long as you don't try to use the dms parking lot as a living space I don't care


[3/24/2020 7:59 PM] pwnieluver
Huh?


[3/24/2020 7:59 PM] nullinterface
that and once DMS is open, you kinda need your project to stay *ambulatory*


[3/24/2020 7:59 PM] canibalcrab
He speaks from experience


[3/24/2020 8:00 PM] nullinterface
and regret.  so much regret.  *and it wasn't even my project*.


[3/24/2020 8:00 PM] pwnieluver
Any suggestions then?


[3/24/2020 8:00 PM] nullinterface
**don't do a skookie**


[3/24/2020 8:00 PM] pwnieluver
I just wanna move the fk out


[3/24/2020 8:02 PM] nullinterface
this is pretty indicative of the skookie experience : 
https://thebigbustheory.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/03262016/

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[3/24/2020 8:03 PM] nullinterface
I've still got the badge


[3/24/2020 8:03 PM] nullinterface
more generally, from what I've seen of #vanlife it's generally not as glamorous as YouTube'ers make it out to me


[3/24/2020 8:04 PM] pwnieluver
Dude, i'm just sick of my parents and siblings


[3/24/2020 8:04 PM] pwnieluver
If the only other option wasn't being homeless i'd be gone


[3/24/2020 8:05 PM] sewingstuff2561
Do you have a full time job?


[3/24/2020 8:05 PM] pwnieluver
nope


[3/24/2020 8:05 PM] pwnieluver
no job


[3/24/2020 8:05 PM] sewingstuff2561
Maybe start with that or getting disability benefits if you qualify.


[3/24/2020 8:07 PM] nullinterface
best I can tell a working, reliable van is going to be >$5k.  Probably going to spend at least that much on upgrades to make it habitable.


[3/24/2020 8:08 PM] pwnieluver
fk it, i'll snare squireles and collect rain water


[3/24/2020 8:08 PM] pwnieluver
I just want out


[3/24/2020 8:42 PM] doug.emes
pwnie your age, skillset?


[4/21/2020 10:43 AM] nullinterface
"fuel filter" 😂

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[4/21/2020 1:08 PM] canibalcrab
:atf:


[4/24/2020 4:55 PM] nullinterface


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[4/24/2020 4:55 PM] canibalcrab
"its a 2door"


[4/24/2020 4:56 PM] nullinterface
that mod is going to do some *amazing* things to the front wheel wells over time


[4/24/2020 4:58 PM] michaelb5250
Rip rollover protection...


[4/24/2020 4:59 PM] canibalcrab
b pillar is still there


[4/24/2020 5:02 PM] michaelb5250
More likely to bend, since it's not held rigidly at either end


[4/24/2020 5:09 PM] hon1nbo
even if it doesn't bend, the door is not as rigidly attached to the frame and has a larger amount of force potential on its latch, so the B pillar can just get pushed outward under crush conditions anyway.


[4/24/2020 5:16 PM] canibalcrab
But it's still there


[4/24/2020 5:16 PM] canibalcrab
Hold my beer


[4/24/2020 5:16 PM] canibalcrab
I'll test it


[4/24/2020 5:16 PM] skyspook
I'm still hung up on the *why*


[4/24/2020 5:17 PM] canibalcrab
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[4/24/2020 6:13 PM] hon1nbo
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[4/27/2020 4:35 PM] nullinterface
it's not just the Zuck trying to push these "fuel filters" anymore

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[4/27/2020 7:31 PM] michaelb5250
Oh I see. They call them fuel filters because they need to keep their buisness silent.


[4/27/2020 7:34 PM] hardsuit
I look at those pictures and see no filtering taking place. What's the theory/pseudo science behind them?


[4/27/2020 7:46 PM] andrew5152
Yeah. Completely lost on what those are, other than NOT fuel filters...


[4/27/2020 7:54 PM] hon1nbo
So found out what they are


[4/27/2020 7:55 PM] hon1nbo
They're for fuel dispensing pumps. Those blocks next to the breakaway linkages on the hose


[4/27/2020 7:56 PM] hon1nbo
They're commonly converted to "solvent traps" for rifles


[4/27/2020 7:56 PM] hon1nbo
I.e. a can on the end that you've conveniently put a concentric hole on the other side

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[4/27/2020 7:59 PM] hon1nbo
As for it allegedly being a generic fuel filter, at least Ali tries to pass it off with a picture that actually has some shitty media in it


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[4/27/2020 8:00 PM] andrew5152
silly me. I was trying to shoehorn it into the COVID face mask or PPE thing...


[4/27/2020 8:00 PM] andrew5152
That makes a *lot* more sense!


[4/27/2020 9:24 PM] nullinterface
so those housings and even those threaded fittings - conveniently used on AR-15 and AR-10 pattern rifle barrels for muzzle devices - **can** be used as fuel filters.  and have long been used as *solvent traps*, which are a legal and convenient means to DIY your own suppressor provided you go through the legal process and what you buy doesn't conveniently already have baffles or other *accoutrements* that the ATF considers to be critical suppressor components.

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[4/29/2020 12:22 AM] michaelb5250
Turns out jar lids are more like oil filters than I thought

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[4/29/2020 12:38 AM] hon1nbo
I've never seen that improvised oil filter trick but now have to try it


[4/29/2020 9:00 AM] kenpurcell
must get into the salsa at all costs


[4/29/2020 11:06 AM] nullinterface
additional contact surface area is your friend when trying to open a stuck jar


[5/2/2020 12:02 PM] nullinterface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtSdNwS1Wy0&feature=youtu.be&t=50  now *there's* an action verb

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Forking Pierced! | John Deere Tractor
Another "Hey, Buddy!" job.
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[5/3/2020 7:19 PM] nullinterface


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[5/3/2020 7:26 PM] canibalcrab
Approved.


[5/3/2020 7:41 PM] engpin1964
I see an update for the cruel bus


[5/3/2020 7:48 PM] canibalcrab
They cancelled wasteland this year so we have a lot of time to work on the bus now

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[5/9/2020 5:42 PM] nullinterface
super random question, but anyone know the specific Torx socket one needs to remove a serpentine belt tensioner on a Ford Vulcan 3.0L engine?


[5/9/2020 5:49 PM] nullinterface
finally found a messageboard that thinks it has an answer:
https://www.therangerstation.com/forums/index.php?threads/replacing-the-serpentine-belt-tensioner.46188/
> The tensioner is held on by a T-50 torx bolt. On my '94, the back is keyed so that you cannot install it incorrectly.

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Replacing the Serpentine Belt Tensioner
Has anyone done this?  Does anyone know how it's done?

After REMOVING my heater fan and re-installing my supercharger, I had my saintly father-in-law evaluate the pulley alignment.  He thinks my tensioner needs replacing.  I've never done this before, so I was hoping someone ...


[5/10/2020 9:26 AM] andrew5152
self-help'r-us 😄


[5/10/2020 9:52 PM] nullinterface


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[5/10/2020 9:52 PM] nullinterface
it wasn't a pretty process but it's in


[5/10/2020 9:53 PM] nullinterface
upside: it idles properly
downside: the squealing didn't go away.  it may be the alternator.


[5/10/2020 9:53 PM] nullinterface
voltage looked a bit ... variable ... on the guages.  will need to put a multimeter to it and see if that tells me anything.


[5/10/2020 9:54 PM] canibalcrab
Does the alternator pully still spin? Danis jeep seized the plastic one after we replaced the belt and it just melted


[5/10/2020 10:13 PM] skyspook
Ya, squeaking could be any of the pulleys. A mechanics stethoscope or long screwdriver are useful sometimes for figuring out which one... If it's not already obvious


[5/10/2020 10:17 PM] andrew5152
I was just coming here to say the same thing...
https://www.amazon.com/Baby-bells-Stethoscope-Motorcycles-Tool%EF%BC%88Black%EF%BC%8C1Pcs%EF%BC%89/dp/B07YG2CM31/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Baby+bells+Mechanic%27s+Stethoscope+Automotive+Engine+Diagnostic+Sensitive+Hearing+Tool+for+Cars&qid=1589166871&sr=8-1


[5/10/2020 10:18 PM] andrew5152
but a long screwdriver can be just as useful...


[5/10/2020 10:56 PM] nullinterface
best I can tell, yes


[5/10/2020 10:56 PM] nullinterface
drove it several miles today without apparent issue


[5/10/2020 10:57 PM] nullinterface
although I know most cars can drive a long way without a working alternator


[5/10/2020 10:58 PM] skyspook
That's good at least. My personal best is about 120 miles, though they were nervous ones :)


[5/10/2020 10:59 PM] nullinterface
I made it most of the way from Austin to Dallas on an alternator that wasn't charging


[5/10/2020 10:59 PM] skyspook
I'm impressed


[5/10/2020 11:01 PM] andrew5152
lessee... I put about...10k on my first car with a bad alt. It was a plugin hybrid well-before they existed...


[5/10/2020 11:01 PM] canibalcrab
we got from east dallas to witchita falls on a dead alternator because of @aceat64


[5/10/2020 11:01 PM] nullinterface
haw


[5/10/2020 11:01 PM] nullinterface
yeah I remember hearing about that


[5/10/2020 11:02 PM] nullinterface
Ranger isn't a daily driver so I have the luxury of time to f__k with it


[5/10/2020 11:05 PM] aceat64
In my defense the sparks it made were kind of cool


[5/10/2020 11:06 PM] nullinterface
new tensioner slack enough that slipping the belt is easy now


[5/11/2020 8:52 AM] nullinterface
new alternator cheap enough - AC Delco <$110 on Rock Auto


[5/11/2020 8:53 AM] nullinterface
reman starts at $70


[5/11/2020 9:44 AM] andrew5152
you're going to ROB yourself of the experience of installing some new bearings?


[5/11/2020 9:53 AM] nullinterface
on a sealed assembly


[5/11/2020 9:53 AM] nullinterface
yes, I do intend to rob myself of that experience


[5/11/2020 9:54 AM] andrew5152
lol


[5/11/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152
I always enjoyed replacing bearings on alternators


[5/11/2020 9:55 AM] andrew5152
something that seemed impossible before I learned how, actually quite easy once learned.


[5/11/2020 9:55 AM] nullinterface
they don't appear to be serviceable


[5/11/2020 9:55 AM] nullinterface
or at least don't look to be designed to be serviceable


[5/11/2020 9:56 AM] nullinterface
but maybe that's the trick with all the reman alternators out there - with a few minutes of bench time they can be tested and the wear components swapped out


[5/11/2020 9:56 AM] andrew5152
yep


[5/11/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
with the proper tools and a nice workspace, <10 per unit in a shop setting


[5/11/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
reman centers...no idea, but I'm guessing hundreds-thousands/hr


[5/11/2020 9:58 AM] andrew5152
GETTING the right brushes/bearings was the real bitch


[5/11/2020 9:58 AM] nullinterface
castings look to be screwed together on the AC Delco and Bosch units


[5/11/2020 9:58 AM] nullinterface
well, yes, that's hardly a Rock Auto / 'Zon stock item


[5/11/2020 9:59 AM] andrew5152
but Purvis bearing has them all, and friendly staff (well, they did a decade or two ago when I did this stuff on the regular)


[5/11/2020 9:59 AM] andrew5152
and if you KNOW what you need, you MIGHT be able to get it @ vAutoZone/Oripleys


[5/11/2020 10:00 AM] andrew5152
no idea on Rock Auto. Never searched there for *components*


[5/11/2020 10:10 AM] nullinterface
they seem to sell parts for the wrench-spinning crowd like myself


[5/11/2020 10:14 AM] nullinterface
looks to take some basic fixturing to remove bearings, not sure what's involved in removing the guts from the housing


[5/11/2020 10:16 AM] nullinterface
<$110 for a new alternator on a vehicle w/ >100k miles or ~$5 in parts, some additional money for tooling, some period of time to figure out how to pull/replace bearings - all the while running the risk that I'm just going to need a replacement alternator anyway ... ?


[5/11/2020 10:17 AM] andrew5152
did you run through the ChrisFix gauntlet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUe6uKxTv8

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How to Fix a Squeaky Belt (figure out where the squeak is coming from)
Belt squeal, squeaky belt, belt noise? Learn how to fix a squeaky belt in your car. The serpentine belt in your car powers the accessories such as air conditioning, power steering, the alternator, fan, and waterpump. There are three types of serpentine belt wear, pilling, glaz...
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[5/11/2020 10:18 AM] nullinterface
ignorant of this *regimen*


[5/11/2020 10:20 AM] nullinterface
haw!  B3000 *exemplar*


[5/11/2020 10:22 AM] andrew5152
but it's a Mazda...nothing like a Ford...


[5/11/2020 10:22 AM] andrew5152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLNZj4JFJ08

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[5/11/2020 10:23 AM] andrew5152
this guy did it the hard way. A 2/3 jaw puller works well in most cases for removal from the shaft, and a press IS nice for the front bearing but, as demonstrated, not *strictly necessary*


[5/11/2020 10:29 AM] nullinterface
*nothing* like a Ford.  as you can see the badges are different.


[5/11/2020 10:30 AM] andrew5152
lol


[5/11/2020 10:30 AM] nullinterface
these tools I lack (for bearing removal)


[5/11/2020 10:30 AM] nullinterface
the water test is interesting


[5/11/2020 10:31 AM] nullinterface
it does take a few minutes for the squeal to develop and it's not constant


[5/11/2020 10:31 AM] nullinterface
need to put a meter on the battery


[5/11/2020 10:31 AM] nullinterface
forget how old that battery is; it may be new-ish


[5/11/2020 10:35 AM] andrew5152
So I'm haring "Erik's turning down the perfect opportunity to acquire new tools"...


[5/11/2020 10:35 AM] andrew5152
I kid. I kid.


[5/11/2020 10:35 AM] nullinterface
you are.  I find myself pressing bearings ... never.


[5/11/2020 10:36 AM] andrew5152
Nothing wrong with putting a reman unit in place.


[5/11/2020 10:36 AM] andrew5152
As long as it's a good reman unit.


[5/11/2020 10:36 AM] andrew5152
I did it to my car


[5/11/2020 10:36 AM] nullinterface
price differential between new and remain not great enough to justify the reman in my book

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[5/11/2020 10:37 AM] andrew5152
$50  used unit vs. nonworking alternator, having to drive around to find the bearings, impossible to be SURE I was sourcing the right brushes (actually the problem)...


[5/11/2020 10:37 AM] andrew5152
I put the "temp used" in place 6 years before I sold it.


[5/11/2020 10:37 AM] andrew5152
and it accumulated half of the 230k on that veh


[5/11/2020 10:38 AM] andrew5152
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[5/11/2020 5:53 PM] nullinterface
No change om the water trick.  Alternator is spinning inside the housing.  Battery gnd cable was somewhat loose.  Need a multimeter to ts battery and alternator ... Later™


[5/11/2020 7:44 PM] nullinterface
https://youtu.be/V58CXYXcBVw

And of course it's behaving now

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The mystery of the suddenly working belt/accessories
A few hours before there was a squeal.  Now there is not.
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[5/11/2020 7:46 PM] nullinterface
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[5/11/2020 7:47 PM] skyspook
It heard us talking about it


[5/11/2020 7:47 PM] nullinterface
must have


[5/11/2020 7:48 PM] nullinterface
guess it needed more load than driving around the neighborhood with new belt+tensioner+idler to burn in


[5/11/2020 7:48 PM] nullinterface
but that's the story of the Ranger - always *medium* reliable so long as it's fussed over periodically


[5/11/2020 7:48 PM] nullinterface
probably good for another trek to the folks house and back


[5/11/2020 7:52 PM] skyspook
Yep, sometimes it squeaks just to get some attention. Needy little things 🙂


[5/11/2020 7:52 PM] nullinterface
Vulcan engine is not a much beloved platform


[5/11/2020 7:53 PM] skyspook
Not the worst thing in the world. But yes, not the best either


[5/11/2020 8:35 PM] nullinterface
mechanics dislike it, which seems to place it within the *box* as opposed to engines in the *whiskers* which they either hate or don't have major complaints about


[5/17/2020 5:50 PM] andrew5152
wanna see something interesting?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-mercedes-benz-300sl-gullwing-2/

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Bid for the chance to own a 1956 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #31,718.
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[5/17/2020 6:21 PM] nullinterface
how many *souls* do they want for that thing?


[5/17/2020 6:22 PM] skyspook
Just your first born.


[5/17/2020 6:22 PM] nullinterface
$1.3 M ... or about 1.3


[5/17/2020 6:22 PM] skyspook
Yea... I like cars. Not sure I like cars that much.


[5/17/2020 6:22 PM] nullinterface
I surely do not like cars that much


[5/17/2020 6:23 PM] nullinterface
my personal level of *demand* meeting the market's *supply* is rare


[5/17/2020 6:24 PM] nullinterface
The RCR review of the 4th gen Supra comes to mind


[5/17/2020 6:26 PM] nullinterface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BE5ZHSTj8

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1994 Toyota Supra Turbo: Regular Car Reviews
We review the legendary fourth generation Toyota Supra twin-turbo. Why did these become so outrageously expensive? Is it all down to F&F?

Merch:

Hats:
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[5/17/2020 6:26 PM] skyspook
Agreed. It's rare those amounts meet with me as well


[5/17/2020 8:47 PM] themitch22
first born children are cheaper, and less rare


[5/17/2020 8:47 PM] skyspook
I dunno, I was pretty pricey. But probably not 1.3M worth.


[5/17/2020 8:49 PM] themitch22
haha I don't think I earned 1.3M in my life yet


[5/17/2020 8:49 PM] themitch22
even my organs on the black market aren't worth that


[5/17/2020 8:51 PM] themitch22
but driving a 300SL to dialysis sure would be cool.

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[5/17/2020 9:37 PM] talkers
I saw one of those gull wings in the late 80's at a home in Las Colinas. Stunning. I still remember how beautiful it is


[5/17/2020 9:37 PM] talkers
It was in amazing condition.


[5/17/2020 9:43 PM] andrew5152
already exceeded the last one like it sold on BAT last year for $1,234,567.89...


[5/18/2020 9:01 AM] nullinterface
I could argue that many of the finer things in life are wasted on me


[5/18/2020 9:02 AM] nullinterface
the degree of fastidiousness that upper-end cars demand may well drive me to genocide


[5/18/2020 9:04 AM] skyspook
Yea, I need to be able to actually drive my cars. And for that money, I'd rather buy a plane.


[5/18/2020 9:13 AM] andrew5152
Mr. Leno is my idol when it comes to car curation; if it doesn't drive, and won't ever, he doesn't want it. I'd love to be able to plonk down $2mil on this car and drive it like the racer it was meant to be


[5/18/2020 9:33 AM] nullinterface
it's not even the *driving* aspect, it's the interior and exterior that's designed to be kept immaculate


[5/18/2020 9:57 AM] kenpurcell
That is what staff is for. Leno has some amazing full time mechanics.


[5/18/2020 10:00 AM] andrew5152
he does, indeed. I've written many letters requesting adoption or at the very least, heir status so I can keep it vision going...
No response to date...


[5/18/2020 10:01 AM] andrew5152
(I kid; I haven't actually done that, but sometimes I wonder who will be appointed, or what will happen with that collection when that day comes, him having no "heir apparent")


[5/18/2020 10:05 AM] nullinterface
perhaps a *Lenoland* will emerge from his estate


[5/18/2020 10:06 AM] andrew5152
perhaps


[5/18/2020 10:07 AM] andrew5152
I can hope he knows a 20-something with similar mindset and capable of *not squandering the trust fund* to set that all up and keep it going for a new generation


[5/18/2020 10:07 AM] andrew5152
because anyone who keeps DuesenbergS on the road... 👍


[5/18/2020 10:08 AM] nullinterface
I have no reasonable expectation of ever having *staff*, thus base models for me and cursing of car designers for their use of black everything that attracts dust like a magnet and tries to **brand** you in the afternoon ~6 months of the year in TX


[5/18/2020 11:10 AM] kenpurcell
Last summer I went LA and we went to the Peterson Auto Museum. Best activity we did.


[5/18/2020 3:17 PM] andrew5152
need to do.
for me, last summer we went to Maine just for giggles
Happened upon a place called The Owls Head Transportation Museum
Happened up on "free ride day" and got a brief spin in a 1949 Lincoln Zephyr
V12, convertible, 3 on the tree...NICE ride!
http://owlshead.org


[5/18/2020 3:19 PM] andrew5152
We spent the better part of 4 hours there, chatting with the folks making it all work; the whole museum runs, or is intended to, including the airplanes on one of which we watched a shakedown taxi following rehabilitation of a dead cylinder... neat show, neat vehicles, neat crew...


[5/20/2020 9:23 AM] nullinterface


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[5/25/2020 8:38 PM] michaelb5250
One of these wheels is not like the other...

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[5/25/2020 8:39 PM] skyspook
Eh, it's fine. It's why there are more than one bolt. 😉


[5/25/2020 8:46 PM] michaelb5250
It's gotta be missing two studs, right? Otherwise itd be four and four.


[5/26/2020 7:29 AM] nullinterface
redundancy


[5/26/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152
Based on the compromised rear view mirror, askew shortround cap, and awstruck dropped-jaw appearance, I'd say he's been victimized by the Chrome Lug Bolt Bandits...probably as per their MO snuck up from behind on driver's side, compromised the reflective surface of the mirror to prevent alarms from sounding, grabbed those 2 lug nuts, probably bitch slapped the driver who'd realized by then what was happening, knocking the cap askew, and then got frightened off by passers-by (who, just guessing, shouted obscenities like "STOP THIEF!")


[5/26/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152
but I could have it all wrong...


[5/28/2020 12:16 PM] agr0090


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[5/28/2020 12:28 PM] andrew5152
SNORT GUFFAW


[5/28/2020 12:33 PM] yashsedai
lolol


[5/28/2020 12:46 PM] skyspook
Nah, I'll just use my $350 usb stick and block the 5g

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[6/7/2020 5:14 PM] nullinterface
I always forget how much of a pain in the ass it is to get to the oil filter on the Ranger


[6/7/2020 5:16 PM] canibalcrab
Does it need special slim wrenches like the Honda Element


[6/7/2020 5:31 PM] canibalcrab
One of the jack stands at the space is likely a recall

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[6/7/2020 6:30 PM] hon1nbo
Mind setting it aside for me?


[6/7/2020 6:41 PM] canibalcrab
I left it on the table near the first aid drops


[6/7/2020 6:41 PM] canibalcrab
I'll tag it tomorrow


[6/7/2020 11:20 PM] nullinterface
Ranger requires bottom access through an interference fit to remove the filter.  Or perhaps the proper way to do it is to remove the driver's side wheel and snake it through that void.


[6/24/2020 5:09 PM] nullinterface


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[6/24/2020 5:10 PM] andrew5152
um... That's NUTS!

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[6/24/2020 5:11 PM] nullinterface
but was it the right size?


[6/24/2020 5:15 PM] kenpurcell
So much for the metal detector


[6/24/2020 5:19 PM] michaelb5250
I can't believe they lugged that thing all the way though the factory.


[6/24/2020 5:20 PM] michaelb5250
They're going to have to get wheely serious about quality control.

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[6/24/2020 5:21 PM] andrew5152
🤣


[6/24/2020 5:47 PM] michaelb5250
Never going to get tired of puns

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[6/25/2020 8:02 AM] nullinterface


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[6/25/2020 9:25 AM] andrew5152
wait...where'd they get that many 10mm in one place?!?


[6/25/2020 9:26 AM] andrew5152
my experience suggest that more than 2 10mm devices repel on another in some sort of magick-reduction spell


[6/25/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152
you never see it happen; you just turn around and at least 1 of them has disappeared


[6/25/2020 10:23 AM] skyspook
Now you know where they went. And the rule still applies. This was a bribe, and still one is missing :)


[6/25/2020 10:35 AM] nullinterface
it may be *difficult* to get >1 10mm in one place so the image - while improbable - is still physically possible because of the missing 10mm


[6/25/2020 10:38 AM] skyspook
Yep, if you try to put another one there, you violate a corrolary to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal.... You may break the fabric of space time


[6/25/2020 10:52 AM] judykriehn3727
Is the missing one the one that was in the fruity popsicle?


[6/25/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface
unfortunately, locating the missing 10mm is not so simple - that was a lug nut


[6/25/2020 11:06 AM] hon1nbo
Funny thing; when I took over automotive I switched us to a bins system for sockets. All the super-organizers don't work when you have different users with different philosophies who just want to get through the day and chuck tools back in a drawer.
During the resulting cleanup, all of the existing organizers were devoid of 10mm sockets. By the time we cleaned out the drawers the bins were overflowing and we had more 10mm than anything else


[6/25/2020 12:20 PM] andrew5152
Way to crash their party, Jim!
🥳


[6/25/2020 12:37 PM] nullinterface
is that the sound of spacetime collapsing?


[6/25/2020 12:38 PM] nullinterface
as opposed to the simpler - but more boring - explanation that as the most-used size, the 10mm is also most likely to get handled and thus 'lost'


[6/25/2020 12:39 PM] skyspook
Bah. Boring explanation


[6/25/2020 12:39 PM] nullinterface
more satisfying to devise complex hand-wavery about how the universe loathes the 10mm socket


[6/25/2020 12:41 PM] michaelb5250
I haven't really found the 10mm super common. Most of my bolts are 3/8" or 1/2"


[6/25/2020 12:46 PM] nullinterface
age of the vehicles you're working on... ?


[6/25/2020 12:52 PM] canibalcrab
Depends what side you are working on


[6/25/2020 12:52 PM] michaelb5250
I've only owned it for a year


[6/25/2020 12:52 PM] skyspook
What a non answer :)


[6/25/2020 4:20 PM] andrew5152
lol
Pearce: owner of an "American" car made after 1974. SAE on the bolt side; metric on the nut side. 🤣


[6/25/2020 4:32 PM] canibalcrab
Business in the front party in the back

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[7/4/2020 8:49 PM] michaelb5250
Ran outta gas so I'm gonna try and pump from the busted tank into the good one... Should be interesting

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[7/4/2020 8:51 PM] hon1nbo
Oh joy


[7/4/2020 8:54 PM] skyspook
Please don't blow yourself up


[7/4/2020 9:05 PM] michaelb5250
So far so good but it's gonna take a while


[7/4/2020 9:06 PM] michaelb5250
Handy to have the spare pump with me

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[7/4/2020 9:06 PM] michaelb5250
Exhaust is cool to the touch no worries


[7/4/2020 9:06 PM] skyspook
Do... do we need to come bring you gas? It only looks a little sketch 🙂


[7/4/2020 9:08 PM] michaelb5250
It should be good. I pulled into a gas station 3 minutes before this but decided to pass. Dumb dumb dumb


[7/4/2020 9:09 PM] skyspook
Been there done that. Now I get nervous below a quarter tank 🙂


[7/4/2020 9:10 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah this happens to me quite a bit none of my cars have working fuel gauges


[7/4/2020 9:11 PM] skyspook
lol. Maybe we should fix that sometime


[7/4/2020 9:11 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah I really should. Truck should be easy tbh


[7/4/2020 9:13 PM] skyspook
At least you carry some extra gas it appears


[7/4/2020 9:19 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah well now I'm on reserve so gonna start the journey home and here's hoping I make it.


[7/4/2020 9:20 PM] skyspook
Good luck!


[7/4/2020 9:29 PM] michaelb5250
Home! I'll try again tomorrow, with a stop at the first gas station


[7/4/2020 9:29 PM] skyspook
yay! All's well...


[7/4/2020 9:31 PM] michaelb5250
And the gas gauge moved up a few ticks on the list for sure


[7/7/2020 7:54 AM] nullinterface
ah automakers, 'innovating' with hardware-as-a-service :
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/07/heated-seats-as-a-service-bmw-wants-to-sell-car-features-on-demand/

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Heated seats as a service? BMW wants to sell car features on demand
BMW says it's a way to try before you buy, but do people want an extra monthly fee?
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[7/7/2020 9:24 AM] andrew5152
I can only hope the car buying public middle fingers that with prejudice


[7/7/2020 9:25 AM] nullinterface
same


[7/7/2020 9:25 AM] andrew5152
But history suggests it'll be a huge hit,  and very profitable


[7/7/2020 9:25 AM] andrew5152
Like automatics...


[7/7/2020 9:25 AM] andrew5152
😃


[7/7/2020 9:26 AM] nullinterface
there's already a huge slice of the public that perpetually has a car payment


[7/7/2020 9:26 AM] nullinterface
TSLA set some bad trends there


[7/7/2020 9:26 AM] nullinterface
and is also sliding that direction with features being disabled upon resale


[7/7/2020 9:28 AM] nullinterface
reminded of a dystopian future that's not far off ...
https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/cory-doctorow/unauthorised-bread.htm

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Unauthorised Bread by Cory Doctorow - book cover, description, publication history.


[7/7/2020 9:29 AM] nullinterface
I need to pick up a copy of that book

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[7/7/2020 10:31 PM] andrew5152
There's also a huge slice of the public who thinks nothing of owning nothing, and renting  whatever their heart desires... it blew my mind to hear of automobile wheel rental shops, but not as much as finding out there are repo people out there for TIRES! Then I learned of SNEAKER rentals... 😶


[7/7/2020 10:46 PM] nullinterface
I recall that Volvo has gotten into that game


[7/7/2020 10:47 PM] nullinterface
can swap out ~yearly within a *tier* with no major penalty if you wish


[7/7/2020 10:50 PM] michaelb5250
Nissan announced a program a while back, pay a nominal fee a month and you can drive any of 3-4 cars from a predetermined list, switching apparently at will.


[7/7/2020 10:51 PM] andrew5152
Yowzer


[7/7/2020 10:52 PM] andrew5152
Heartbreaking


[7/7/2020 10:52 PM] michaelb5250
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/Nissan-takes-new-automobile-subscription-service-15072683.php

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For $700 a month, you can drive a new car every day in Houston
The subscription model, once reserved for newspapers and magazines, is increasingly transforming the way Americans consume everything from music to razors.
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[7/7/2020 10:53 PM] michaelb5250
I don't know that it's really heartbreaking. It's just a different option for people who have the money.


[7/7/2020 10:54 PM] andrew5152
Snow tire rentals been a thing for decades,  not some stuff is meant to be owned, and used up...


[7/7/2020 10:54 PM] andrew5152
It's heartbreaking that the American dream is to rent stuff.


[7/7/2020 10:55 PM] michaelb5250
It's very different. I don't know that it's a dream. It certainly has benefits, much more flexible if you'd rather have a vehicle more 'fit for purpose'


[7/7/2020 10:55 PM] judykriehn3727
But wouldn't it be nice if you could rent home printers and just take them back when the ink runs out?


[7/7/2020 10:57 PM] michaelb5250
It would be cool if I could only have one car, and didn't quite know what to look for. Do it for a month of two and try out a compact, truck, sedan, and SUV, and see which one was best. But personally I would drop it and buy whatever I decided on.


[7/7/2020 10:57 PM] michaelb5250
Not a long term thing.


[7/7/2020 10:58 PM] michaelb5250
But, my solution was to just get a car and a cheap old truck... 😂


[7/7/2020 10:59 PM] judykriehn3727
That inexplicably Patrick thought would be a nice apartment.


[7/7/2020 10:59 PM] nullinterface
my theory on autonomous cars is that the first generation**s** will be robo-taxis and the regulatory regime will be closer to *aviation* than ground transportation


[7/7/2020 10:59 PM] michaelb5250
Is that a known thing? That he tried to buy my truck?


[7/7/2020 10:59 PM] michaelb5250
God that was such a dumb idea...


[7/7/2020 11:00 PM] andrew5152
@judy Kriehn  nope. What would be cool would be being able to buy printers that actually WORK for me than 1 cartridge... office jet 500, baby!


[7/7/2020 11:01 PM] andrew5152
I GET the renting "a vehicle" thing,  but there are cool car clubs that let you do that for "the other car"...


[7/7/2020 11:02 PM] judykriehn3727
> Is that a known thing? That he tried to buy my truck?
@michaelb 
I dunno if it's common knowledge, but you and I talked about it at the time. Because we were both trying to figure out how a pickup truck would be an improvement over a sedan.


[7/7/2020 11:05 PM] andrew5152
Camper shell, full size matress


[7/7/2020 11:06 PM] andrew5152
There was a middle aged Asian fellow who did this in College Station when I lived there,  and used the same laundromat I did


[7/7/2020 11:08 PM] andrew5152
A really, really well-kept 1964 F100


[7/7/2020 11:09 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah, that thing was falling apart though. Camper shell was leaky, and the carpet (yes, carpet) that was in their was original to the truck...


[7/7/2020 11:18 PM] andrew5152
E z fixes...


[7/7/2020 11:32 PM] judykriehn3727
Phew.


[7/20/2020 12:20 PM] zoombroomdoom
I've got a 1974 bmw 2002, automatic transmission isn't engaging anybody recommend a tow company or have a trailer that could help get it to the space to work on?


[7/20/2020 1:19 PM] themitch22
Ooo those are my favorite BMWs


[7/20/2020 1:21 PM] themitch22
I haven't used a towing company before but just looking on yelp https://m.yelp.com/biz/baez-towing-dallas-5

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[7/20/2020 1:36 PM] ferricyanide7475
Just something to keep in mind, if it is going to take several days to fix. DMS may have some rules against leaving them too long. I know parts runs are typically okay but I'm a bit fuzzy on anything else😷


[7/20/2020 1:37 PM] yashsedai
Biggest rules being it has to have the approval of logistics(Pearce) if its going to stay overnight


[7/20/2020 1:37 PM] ferricyanide7475
also does anyone besides me have an issue with emojis refusing to delete?


[7/20/2020 1:37 PM] yashsedai
internet is having problems


[7/20/2020 1:37 PM] yashsedai
so much connectivity issues and packet loss


[7/20/2020 1:38 PM] ferricyanide7475
I have always had this problem with discord... if i accidentally hit an emoji i might as well assume its there forever


[7/20/2020 1:38 PM] ferricyanide7475
For months


[7/20/2020 1:38 PM] yashsedai
clicking on the emoji doesn't remove it?


[7/20/2020 1:39 PM] ferricyanide7475
No,  hiting delete doesn't either. Like it will clear and look gone, but when i hit post it magically pops back up


[7/20/2020 1:39 PM] yashsedai
weird


[7/20/2020 1:39 PM] yashsedai
are you using vpns?


[7/20/2020 1:39 PM] ferricyanide7475
No just my phone


[7/20/2020 1:40 PM] ferricyanide7475
I guess i could try a different browser


[7/20/2020 1:40 PM] yashsedai
ah


[7/20/2020 1:49 PM] canibalcrab
> Biggest rules being it has to have the approval of logistics(Pearce) if its going to stay overnight
 And the answer is going to be no

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[7/20/2020 1:51 PM] ferricyanide7475
Nevermind dealing with a new browser is becoming too much of a hassle i see why i had like 3 or 4 discords at one point


[7/20/2020 1:54 PM] michaelb5250
You know there's an app?


[7/20/2020 1:57 PM] canibalcrab
There's an app that's way better than the browsers will ever be


[7/20/2020 2:03 PM] ferricyanide7475
I just don't download apps anymore i have had too many problems with them.


[7/20/2020 2:04 PM] ferricyanide7475
Mostly going though my numbers so i just dont anymore


[7/20/2020 2:06 PM] canibalcrab
Phone numbers?


[7/20/2020 2:07 PM] ferricyanide7475
Yeah.


[7/20/2020 2:07 PM] ferricyanide7475
Maybe not discord but some other has at least


[7/20/2020 2:09 PM] canibalcrab
There is a solution to your discord problems, and it's the app or picking one browser, but man I can't imagine using the mobile version of the web interface. 
I can check the permissions for you on Androids discord app


[7/20/2020 2:10 PM] ferricyanide7475
I minimized my app usage after linkedin went through some, and started paying more attention to permissions. But after i had someone that only 2 numbers in their phone, 1 is mine. Complain they started getting blasted with spam calls for the first time i ever i just stopped completely


[7/20/2020 2:11 PM] canibalcrab
Looks like I just denied discord the ability to see my contacts

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[7/20/2020 2:11 PM] canibalcrab
I don't even remember that. But that's what it had access to


[7/20/2020 2:14 PM] ferricyanide7475
Yeah, and i used to just do that after the linkedin incident. But that doesn't seem to be enough, so i just don't bother with any of them anymore


[7/20/2020 2:15 PM] nullinterface
I'll agree that a lot of apps are piss-poor substitutes for functional mobile websites


[7/20/2020 2:15 PM] nullinterface
but sometimes they just work better than websites, especially if you're running them all the time


[7/20/2020 2:16 PM] canibalcrab
> I'll agree that a lot of apps are piss-poor substitutes for functional mobile websites
Discord is the opposite. The devs seem to work on the app more


[7/20/2020 2:17 PM] ferricyanide7475
I have definitely had better user experiences with apps in the past vs mobile versions


[7/20/2020 2:17 PM] ferricyanide7475
Im just done fooling with them even if inconvenient


[7/20/2020 2:18 PM] canibalcrab
I wonder if the guy who did the tik tok reverse engineering did one for discord. If I find anything ill post here for you @ferricyanide


[7/20/2020 2:18 PM] nullinterface
And there's deliberate sandbagging like what Facebook does with their mobile website vs their app


[7/20/2020 2:52 PM] ferricyanide7475
That would be fine @pearce i just haven't had the patience to look that up with every potential app to use. I feel like a dinosaur, i just get frustrated in general with apps/terms of service etc.  Id much rather pay for a service than be a product and i feel old and grumpy.


[7/21/2020 12:02 PM] chocolatelasagna
anyone got the space and time and want to part out a 2016 mazda cx5


[7/21/2020 12:04 PM] chocolatelasagna
im pretty sure i don't want to fix it and its sitting at a tow lot. not sure what to do lol figured id offer before taking to a salvage lot.


[7/21/2020 12:21 PM] canibalcrab
What happened to it


[7/21/2020 1:37 PM] chocolatelasagna
got in a wreck


[7/21/2020 1:38 PM] chocolatelasagna
ima get some pics here later when i go up


[7/21/2020 1:38 PM] chocolatelasagna
idk im lost at what to do


[7/21/2020 1:39 PM] chocolatelasagna
mostly im unsure how to properly value a damaged car and decide if its worth my effort. i was already gonna stop driving and move to a walkable city here shortly so figured fuck it


[7/21/2020 1:45 PM] canibalcrab
Insurance usually totals it out and will pay you out for it (not much) and they take care of it


[7/21/2020 2:05 PM] themitch22
@chocolate lasagna is insurance not doing anything?


[7/21/2020 2:05 PM] themitch22
Lawyer up if they aren't


[7/21/2020 2:06 PM] nullinterface
if you keep it then the insurance payout will be discounted whatever they think it's worth as scrap


[7/21/2020 4:03 PM] chocolatelasagna
Y'all relax, I  only have liability


[7/21/2020 4:03 PM] chocolatelasagna
Let's just say I'm experienced in insurance and wrecks.... Lol


[7/21/2020 4:03 PM] chocolatelasagna
But this time I just had liability thus I'm trying to figure out the value


[7/21/2020 4:06 PM] chocolatelasagna
I own the car outright. I got screwed by insurance when they were going to Total it originally in a previous wreck but decided not to and then it ended up having problems they had to fix going well over the total threshold. since then I have gotten lots of scrapes and dents all over the body that I had no intent to pay to fix.


[7/21/2020 4:07 PM] chocolatelasagna
I think I'm being stupid though because if I even have to put a couple Grand in to fix this most recent wreck it's still probably will net me more than scrapping it.


[7/21/2020 4:07 PM] chocolatelasagna
I guess my only option is to get it to a shop have them figure that out and go from there


[7/21/2020 4:07 PM] nullinterface
liability only on a 2016 vehicle - *exciting*


[7/21/2020 4:08 PM] chocolatelasagna
I can assure you , you would do the same given my track record/rates


[7/21/2020 4:09 PM] nullinterface
I'll take your word for it


[7/21/2020 4:09 PM] chocolatelasagna
Lol it's embarrassing


[7/21/2020 4:09 PM] chocolatelasagna
but yeah I'm moving to a downtown City where I won't need to drive anymore and plan to do that for the next couple years so that's why I was more so just trying to get rid of it then have to go through all this bullshit


[7/21/2020 4:09 PM] chocolatelasagna
But like I said I realize now that it's still probably worth more than I think


[7/21/2020 4:10 PM] chocolatelasagna
hypothetically other than the fact that people don't want to buy wrecked cars when it's fixed up through insurance it shouldn't devalue crazy amounts even if had significant work done?


[7/21/2020 4:10 PM] chocolatelasagna
(in reference to the previous wreck which was a lot of work)


[7/21/2020 4:10 PM] nullinterface
*salvage title* is something to avoid if possible


[7/21/2020 4:11 PM] chocolatelasagna
Yeah it's not a salvaged title


[7/21/2020 4:11 PM] nullinterface
but if you're parting it and it was merely totalled because of repair expense without the catastrophic damage that tends to it being written off as salvage and you've got the time/means/space to part it out probably makes sense


[7/21/2020 4:13 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah I am surprised you would consider parting out a not-salvaged vehicle. If it's good enough to avoid a salvage title... I would expect it to be worth repair to someone


[7/21/2020 4:14 PM] chocolatelasagna
yeah that's I guess what I'm saying I'm just struggling to value the car with all of the dents and scratches on the panels because technically to fix all of that would cost a significant amount of money


[7/21/2020 4:14 PM] chocolatelasagna
I'm thinking I fixed it up depending on that cost and then try to do a private sale for cheap and at least give someone a functioning car


[7/21/2020 4:14 PM] chocolatelasagna
I just was trying to leave the state in the next week and a half so this was all kind of inconvenient given I wasn't going to be driving


[7/21/2020 4:14 PM] chocolatelasagna
so the bidding starts at $350 LOL


[7/21/2020 4:21 PM] chocolatelasagna
Thanks for letting me ramble lol


[7/21/2020 9:06 PM] nullinterface
so I accidentally waterproofed a few square feet of driveway.  I've used gasoline in the past to deal with oil stains but A) I don't have any and B) the driveway is sloped so fluid runs off anyway (like the Simple Green I doused the area with).  Grinding kitty litter into the pavement got some of it but I'd like to fully erase this sin.  power washer?


[7/21/2020 9:09 PM] nullinterface
TL;DR I spilled some oil on pavement


[7/21/2020 9:12 PM] skyspook
Pressure washer may just drive it deeper. Could mix something like kitty litter with a solvent (acetone, xylene) and put it down on it.


[7/21/2020 9:12 PM] skyspook
Unless it's a sealed driveway, that just makes everything more complicated


[7/21/2020 9:13 PM] nullinterface
tried dousing with *a lot* of simple green and then kitty litter


[7/21/2020 9:13 PM] nullinterface
which might have picked up a little more than the initial grinding with kitty litter


[7/21/2020 9:14 PM] nullinterface
I don't have the conventional pebble kitty litter however - it's the granules


[7/21/2020 9:14 PM] skyspook
Could put both down together. Keeps the simple green in contact, and the litter will soak up what it brings up. I dunno, I've not had the best of luck getting such things up. I just ended up treating it several times over weeks to make it come up.


[7/21/2020 9:14 PM] skyspook
Ah. The granules are more just hydroscopic. I'd definitely use the clay stuff


[7/21/2020 9:14 PM] skyspook
Not sure if the granules can pull up oil


[7/21/2020 9:15 PM] nullinterface
one of these days I'll learn to move the oil jug far enough away not to kick it over when under the vehicle ...


[7/21/2020 9:16 PM] skyspook
Same day I do, I assume


[7/21/2020 9:44 PM] andrew5152
legend has it that wetting to the extent possible, and grinding in Tide (or similar) powder, letting it dry, and then working it back up, allowing drying between "moppings" will do the trick, as the Tide'll attract the oil, and pull it back up with the water as it evaporates*
*I've never had the fortitude to do this on large patches, but it's worked well on smaller bits I've tried. PS Tide & the like is expensive...


[7/21/2020 10:32 PM] nullinterface
Worth a shot


[7/21/2020 10:32 PM] nullinterface
Oil patch has long dried however


[7/21/2020 10:35 PM] nullinterface
Makes sense actually - laundry detergent largely being a nonpolar solvent and oil being a nonpolar fluid


[7/21/2020 11:20 PM] andrew5152
again, legend has it, age of oil patch is irrelevant when attempting this technique
I have only used it on <1 week old stuff (although I have a garage full of test-bed, thanks to the prior owner's Harley addiction...)


[7/22/2020 9:07 AM] nullinterface
upon further inspection in daylight looks like I got about 75% of it


[7/22/2020 9:08 AM] nullinterface
some Tide™ granules however won't be a huge effort nor expense

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[7/23/2020 2:30 AM] hon1nbo
All,

this evening I had to do an emergency repair on the lift. An unauthorised user attempted to use the lift, and forcefully kept slamming controls to try and activate the unit (they opened the RFID box since it’s not locked, but thankfully didn’t muck with that). They clearly had no clue how to use the lift, as they were slamming the lock release repeatedly in an attempt to raise the unit as well as button mashing the up button and hydraulic release.

They managed to pull the steel cable that actuates the far side safety lock loose from the ferrules, and the far side latch would not actuate properly. I was able to adjust the cable tension to put the unit back into service after I escorted the member off the premises (they were suspended for this action of attempting to bypass a safety interlock, on top of their abuse of other tools throughout the space this past week).

During the repair I also found someone had drilled, I kid you not, a Penny to use as a cable retainer. Whilst amusing and not an immediate concern since it would take a fairly high abuse to make it a problem, when we convene for the next meeting we should replace it with an actual washer for long term purposes since it’s cheap and easy to do it right. The corresponding washer on the other post is missing. These keep the cables for the locks in place though.

I’m also going to push for getting the punch tool for the NEMA box on the RFID sooner than later; the reason it’s not currently lockable is that the Cam lock cutout is used for the key override for the unit. The long term goal has been to have a key to open the box owned by Infrastructure, and the key to Override the boxes held by the respective committees. The punch tool to add a second Cam spot has been elusive thusfar but I’m going to push to get it done sooner than later.

Regards,
-Jim

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[7/24/2020 2:50 PM] skyspook
So I have a shitty ass 1964 Newport that need to go away. It'll run and drive, but that's about it. I'd rather donate it than scrap it. Something like a trade school or something. Can't really keep it at the space or I'd use it for training there.


[7/24/2020 2:50 PM] skyspook
I just want to stop thinking about it in my parking spot


[7/24/2020 2:51 PM] skyspook
Any thoughts?


[7/24/2020 2:54 PM] kenpurcell
I gave my old car to Can Academy. They even gave me a $50 Visa Gift Card. I got the better deal.


[7/24/2020 3:32 PM] hon1nbo
if it drives and is a junker anyway I feel shenanigans are in order


[7/24/2020 3:36 PM] skyspook
It can drive. I drove it around texas in the Lemons road rally


[7/24/2020 3:37 PM] skyspook
The tires are a bit tired and leaky, and the gas pickup sucks, and there aren't any gauges...


[7/24/2020 3:37 PM] skyspook
But suggest some shenanigans ;)


[7/24/2020 3:38 PM] hon1nbo
RC car


[7/24/2020 3:38 PM] hon1nbo
I haven't done an RC car car in ages


[7/24/2020 3:42 PM] michaelb5250
I am supremely jealous. I wanted to take my truck on the rally last year but I couldn't get the time off


[7/24/2020 3:45 PM] skyspook
Aww, well if you want to do one after covid bullshit let me know


[7/24/2020 3:45 PM] skyspook
And rc car could be a lot of fun


[7/24/2020 3:57 PM] hon1nbo
let's do it


[7/24/2020 4:00 PM] michaelb5250
what engine/transmission?


[7/24/2020 4:03 PM] skyspook
Let me check


[7/24/2020 4:04 PM] skyspook
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/fs-1964-chrysler-newport/68202

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FS - 1964 Chrysler Newport
Before I go to the general Craigslist crowd…  A friend and I drove a 1964 Newport around in the 24 Hours of Lemons Rally this last fall. I had a couple of offers to buy it  fall through, and I need to get my extra parking space back.  VIN / Serial: 8143247118  4 door Sedan  V8...
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[7/24/2020 4:04 PM] hon1nbo
now that I think about it never done an RC car car using a manual


[7/24/2020 4:04 PM] skyspook
It's a pushbutton


[7/24/2020 4:05 PM] skyspook
So even easier to make RC


[7/24/2020 4:05 PM] hon1nbo
hmmmm


[7/24/2020 4:06 PM] michaelb5250
Seems like a pretty reasonable idea. and no one cares what the interior looks like


[7/24/2020 4:07 PM] michaelb5250
power steering?


[7/24/2020 4:07 PM] andrew5152
is there more bondo than appears in the pics?


[7/24/2020 4:08 PM] andrew5152
that's a noice lookin' vehicle for a '64 from the 'wormzone...


[7/24/2020 4:08 PM] andrew5152
for sale sign and a trek to the right part of DFW should net you a benji or two, I'd think


[7/24/2020 4:19 PM] skyspook
It lived a rough life up north.


[7/24/2020 4:19 PM] skyspook
There is rust. Not bad, but not great


[7/24/2020 4:19 PM] skyspook
And yes, power steering


[7/24/2020 4:22 PM] michaelb5250
I don't have a controller but I have a servo that will probably be able to steer at low speeds.


[7/24/2020 4:53 PM] skyspook
This might make a fun video to share, at the very least


[7/24/2020 4:54 PM] skyspook
Maybe we can get some poor sucker... volunteer... to get ferried around.


[7/24/2020 5:01 PM] michaelb5250
I can probably do the buttons with another servo depending on how hard they are to push. Got some decently powerful small ones. Nothing for the brakes/gas. Just a linear actuator with no feedback, so, probably not a good idea.


[7/24/2020 5:02 PM] michaelb5250
I'd just want to drive it from the back seat I think that'd be cool


[7/24/2020 5:02 PM] skyspook
I believe they're electric buttons, so we could probably wire straight in


[7/24/2020 5:03 PM] skyspook
Accelerator is standard wire to carb, so really the brake is the one that'll need the most oomph


[7/24/2020 5:03 PM] michaelb5250
Hmm... that'd be great. What I found looked like cables but old stuff is so inconsistent


[7/24/2020 5:03 PM] michaelb5250
Oh you're right any old servo should do that


[7/24/2020 5:03 PM] michaelb5250
I mean it could just be an actuator with no feedback. Let the driver watch the car for control


[7/24/2020 5:04 PM] skyspook
Given how well-loved that car is, the feedback you get doesn't really translate to what power you have


[7/24/2020 5:04 PM] skyspook
All the fury of a hemi, none of the power


[7/24/2020 5:04 PM] michaelb5250
oh my truck is the same way it's so loud but anything can drive around it


[7/24/2020 5:05 PM] skyspook
There may be a few exhaust leaks too... so remote control is the safest way to drive it


[7/24/2020 5:05 PM] skyspook
That was fun on the road trip


[7/24/2020 5:05 PM] hon1nbo
does the brake master for this vehicle have a boost?


[7/24/2020 5:05 PM] michaelb5250
I was thinking of no feedback on the brakes since I have a fairly decent linear actuator that could run the pedal.


[7/24/2020 5:05 PM] hon1nbo
yeah the brake is the thing that actually may need to just be straight up actuation


[7/24/2020 5:05 PM] skyspook
I don't believe it has boost


[7/24/2020 5:06 PM] hon1nbo
IMHO whomever is piloting should be able to see the vehicle anyway


[7/24/2020 5:06 PM] skyspook
But we did make it so it's a dual master. No more "oops, leak took out the brakes"


[7/24/2020 5:06 PM] hon1nbo
so feedback may not be as important


[7/24/2020 5:06 PM] michaelb5250
for sure need to be in sight


[7/24/2020 5:06 PM] skyspook
Totally


[7/24/2020 5:06 PM] hon1nbo
does it have a hand parking brake? We could stick an actuator on that as a failsafe if we're worried about feedback / the linear drive of the main brake


[7/24/2020 5:07 PM] michaelb5250
so... when can it be at the space for initial inspection?


[7/24/2020 5:07 PM] skyspook
No, but there's a locking pawl for the parking brake


[7/24/2020 5:07 PM] skyspook
lol


[7/24/2020 5:07 PM] skyspook
I don't want to drive it around too much, not sure how legal it is right now


[7/24/2020 5:07 PM] michaelb5250
Ahh, no worries


[7/24/2020 5:08 PM] skyspook
It's a pain in the butt to drive, which is why I don't want to keep it


[7/24/2020 5:08 PM] skyspook
I'd love it if I could drive it somewhere, and then it's not mine 🙂


[7/24/2020 5:09 PM] michaelb5250
I'd love to take it but my apartment complex already gets on me about that truck.


[7/24/2020 5:09 PM] skyspook
lol


[7/24/2020 5:09 PM] skyspook
They're on me about this thing too. Hasn't driven in a while and currently has a tire that needs filled


[7/24/2020 5:09 PM] skyspook
Silly apartment owners


[7/24/2020 5:09 PM] skyspook
Don't they know I have automotive needs?


[7/24/2020 5:10 PM] michaelb5250
When I got it they said since it didn't have valid registration they would tow it. While it was parked next to my 'normal' car, that was 6 months out of date.


[7/24/2020 5:10 PM] michaelb5250
But I don't blame them for picking battles, it's ugly. and I couldn't pay rent if they towed both my cars.


[7/24/2020 5:11 PM] hon1nbo
I've inquired what the requirements are at my complex


[7/24/2020 5:16 PM] michaelb5250
The big question will be, how much work will it need before it passes inspection?


[7/24/2020 5:19 PM] skyspook
A decent amount. Right now it has an Ohio historical plate on it


[7/24/2020 5:19 PM] skyspook
Could register is as a show car in Texas, bypasses most of the inspection


[7/24/2020 5:27 PM] hon1nbo
it's more than 25 years old; doesn't need most modern inspection standards, just the core safety


[7/24/2020 5:32 PM] michaelb5250
Texas is pretty lax on old vehicles. But leaky exhaust is a problem


[7/24/2020 5:32 PM] kenpurcell
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium you know Rex wants to do an RC car at the farm jumping a ramp with a "big finish"


[7/24/2020 5:37 PM] michaelb5250
Oh, while we're here, how is the Veloster? I'm about to hit 200k on my daily and am trying to keep an eye on alternatives


[7/24/2020 5:39 PM] hon1nbo
@Lampy (Ken Purcell) aw man, I haven't done a car explosion effect in like 10 years.


[7/24/2020 5:39 PM] hon1nbo
this would be perfect


[7/24/2020 5:40 PM] hon1nbo
we RC drive it  and as it's airborne from the ramp trigger the effect


[7/24/2020 5:40 PM] hon1nbo
we need a ton of gopros


[7/24/2020 5:40 PM] hon1nbo
and maybe a couple drones for better angles


[7/24/2020 5:40 PM] skyspook
@michaelb I actually really like it. (it's the first actually new car I've ever bought). I would have gotten the N, but wife won't drive a stick. But the turbo with the dual clutch is still fun to drive


[7/24/2020 5:40 PM] skyspook
I'm loving this idea for the car


[7/24/2020 5:41 PM] skyspook
We'll need a crash test dummy too


[7/24/2020 5:43 PM] michaelb5250
I've been known to do more stupid things.


[7/24/2020 5:43 PM] michaelb5250
Perhaps most importantly, I'm capable of slamming it into neutral or park if something goes wrong.


[7/25/2020 2:57 AM] doug.emes
I have 2 drones when the time comes


[7/25/2020 1:27 PM] michaelb5250
Can also be registered as an antique vehicle and doesn't need to be inspected. Can only be used for exhibitions, car shows, and travel to shops. That would get valid plates and registration for seemingly zero work.


[7/28/2020 7:44 PM] quattroquattro
Do we have the tools to change the springs on a car?


[7/28/2020 7:46 PM] andrew5152
depends on springs and car but nominally, yes


[7/28/2020 7:46 PM] andrew5152
I assume you're looking for a spring compressor for "mchpherson-strut"-style coils


[7/28/2020 7:47 PM] andrew5152
we DID have several varieties...some even worked...


[7/28/2020 7:48 PM] andrew5152
I think we have one like this
https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/product/otc-clamshell-strut-spring-compressor-6494/otc-tools?msclkid=993b9a2972351b740230c509b523a8f6&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=AC_PLA_Desktop_Vendor_Shopping&utm_term=4584963492481037&utm_content=All%20Products
which is generally considered THE on-car, shadetree type to use

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OTC Clamshell Strut Spring Compressor - 6494
Servicing MacPherson struts is convenient and affordable with this compressor.  
   
	 Fits a wide range of struts and requires no special adapter shoe    
	 Safety locking pins hold the compressor jaws in place   
	 Tool compresses springs of 4 to 9 O.D., with wire diameters...
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[7/28/2020 7:53 PM] hon1nbo
Yup we have the compressors. Right hand green tall cabinet. I think it's a red box


[7/28/2020 8:27 PM] skyspook
Just have to ask yourself, is it worth the pucker-inducing compression over buying a quick-strut?  Only you will be able to answer that 🙂


[7/28/2020 9:15 PM] andrew5152
absofuckinglutely!
You haven't lived till you've almost died due to shoddy spring compressor failure!


[7/28/2020 9:16 PM] skyspook
In my case it was a spring cracking, but yes. It reminds you how awesome it is you're alive


[7/28/2020 9:22 PM] michaelb5250
The one we have is fairly large, sedans and smaller generally have trouble with it, so watch out.


[7/28/2020 9:30 PM] andrew5152
May I inquire as to the intended use?


[7/29/2020 7:50 AM] nullinterface
driving in Allen's Cabriolet was sufficient to remind me of the fleeting nature of life


[7/29/2020 9:19 AM] quattroquattro
I've got a set of eibach springs for my Abarth, I want to put them on, but the springs are small, so I'm not sure what is the safest way to swap them out


[7/29/2020 9:20 AM] quattroquattro
Back springs are easy, they don't need to be compressed apparently

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[7/29/2020 9:23 AM] quattroquattro
This is what I have https://www.modernperformance.com/product/Eibach_Pro_Kit_Lowering_Springs_Fiat_500/12-17-fiat-500-turbo-and-abarth-suspension-and-chassis

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Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs 12-19 Fiat 500
Free FedEx Ground Shipping to the Contiguous United States!  
 Fits 2012-19 Fiats and Abarth models. These Eibach springs are made for USA model Fiat 500's, dont buy the EURO version Eibach springs as they wont fit in the rear of US model 500's! 
 
Eibach Pro kit lowers your...
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[7/29/2020 9:24 AM] andrew5152
as per this video, you can just take the whole shebang out, and use the clamshell on the bench


[7/29/2020 9:24 AM] andrew5152
they don't LOOK that much smaller than "normal", if at all (not finding a diameter spec right away)


[7/29/2020 9:24 AM] andrew5152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mnlIJzMxgY

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mnlIJzMxgY
How to replace front springs / front coil springs on ABARTH 500 (31...
How to replace front springs / front coil springs / front suspension springs on ABARTH 500 (312) 1.4 Hatchback 01.2008–present [TUTORIAL AUTODOC]

Springs on ABARTH Punto (199) (03.2012–2019) / ABARTH 500 / 595 Hatchback (312) (08.2008–2019) / ALFA ROMEO Giulietta Hatchback (9...
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[7/29/2020 9:25 AM] andrew5152
(that wall-mount, though, is NICE for a shop setting. Wish we had one of those...)


[7/29/2020 9:25 AM] andrew5152
(shops)


[7/29/2020 9:25 AM] quattroquattro
Thanks


[7/29/2020 9:26 AM] quattroquattro
I've been meaning to install these for like 2 years... But every time I go over the train tracks by the space I decide maybe I don't need the car lower


[7/29/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152
looks like the hard part will be getting enough "bite" to compress; kind of hard to explain, but when there're so few coils, it's harder to set up the tool so the ends are far enough apart at the start that they compress enough in the end without going wonky


[7/29/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152
lol


[7/29/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152
yeah


[7/29/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152
lowering springs are...not for everyone on every car for every road


[7/29/2020 9:27 AM] andrew5152
they can be a love/hate thing


[7/29/2020 9:28 AM] andrew5152
I never regretted mine, but they were very conservative


[7/29/2020 9:29 AM] nullinterface
Sturgeon's law *(90% of everything is crap)* **especially** applies to automotive mods


[7/29/2020 9:29 AM] andrew5152
lol


[7/29/2020 9:29 AM] andrew5152
yep


[7/29/2020 9:29 AM] nullinterface
especially when it's apparent that you've modified suspension


[7/29/2020 9:29 AM] andrew5152
the factory spends a LOT of time and money making the concessions they did


[7/29/2020 9:29 AM] andrew5152
the liklihood you're NOT in the 85% they're shooting for, is pretty small.


[7/29/2020 9:30 AM] andrew5152
but sometimes...


[7/29/2020 9:30 AM] nullinterface
engineering is hard and it does not make ready concessions to aesthetics


[7/29/2020 9:30 AM] andrew5152
$$, yes, aesthetics, no.


[7/29/2020 9:30 AM] nullinterface
lowering *for the sake of lowering* will almost never improve performance


[7/29/2020 9:30 AM] andrew5152
true.


[7/29/2020 9:31 AM] nullinterface
the latter *may* result in lowering the vehicle


[7/29/2020 9:31 AM] andrew5152
but those are conservative springs. I don't know what the Abarth sits on already, or what its travel is, but only .7" in front and 1" in back is pretty minuscule


[7/29/2020 9:32 AM] andrew5152
That's about what I did on my Golf (only 4" travel from the factory) and it was nice. Looked good. Handled well. helped reduce cupping on the tires due to shit shocks


[7/29/2020 9:35 AM] nullinterface
slam that Civic to the ground and you're going for a look no matter how you rationalize it


[7/29/2020 9:35 AM] andrew5152
lol


[7/29/2020 9:36 AM] andrew5152
slam that * to the ground [what you said]
STANCED, yo!


[7/29/2020 9:36 AM] skyspook
My favorite is lowering so far that a driveway or speed bump takes something off


[7/29/2020 9:36 AM] andrew5152
the "kids" were talking in my autoclass one day...that was a GOAL, apparently


[7/29/2020 9:37 AM] skyspook
Or the time a street racer thought he was being badass after I said stancing can affect the suspension strength... And he proceeded to make his control arms fail


[7/29/2020 9:37 AM] nullinterface
If you're going after the aesthetic that has roots in something that used to be utilitarian, cool - that's so much *fashion* in all its manifestations.  I'm fine with that - donks make me *smile* after all.


[7/29/2020 9:38 AM] andrew5152
I gotta say, though the hydro thing (now the 'bag thing) is...interesting. clever folks doing that stuff, sometimes... (not my cup of tea, but hey, I can respect that kind of dedication and work and...um..."engineering")


[7/29/2020 9:38 AM] andrew5152
ROFL donks


[7/29/2020 9:41 AM] nullinterface
lowering the car for car shows, cruising (on laser-levelled streets) - otherwise leaving it at normal height for actual driving *that makes sense*


[7/29/2020 9:43 AM] andrew5152
these are my favorites

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[7/29/2020 9:43 AM] andrew5152
that one has the rarely-avoided lack of curb rash on the wheel...


[7/29/2020 9:43 AM] nullinterface
the tire wear with that kind of setup must be bizarre


[7/29/2020 9:43 AM] andrew5152
I'd think


[7/29/2020 9:44 AM] andrew5152
There are some really neat designs out there for lowered-when-you-want-it suspensions, sliding spring mounts and such...


[7/29/2020 9:44 AM] andrew5152
it just pains me to watch people without disposable income throw every dime into their conveyance (and make it WORSE at conveying)


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[7/29/2020 9:46 AM] andrew5152
nice. double post...


[7/29/2020 9:46 AM] nullinterface
I draw some degree of schadenfreude watching people that have poured money into custom mods try to sell their 'creations' with the expectation that they'll recoup their 'investnent'

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[7/29/2020 9:46 AM] andrew5152
🤷‍♂️


[7/29/2020 9:47 AM] andrew5152
there's been a fellow selling off some neat stuff on BAT recently, builder of truckasaurus, if I recall properly...


[7/29/2020 9:47 AM] andrew5152
good attitude.


[7/29/2020 9:47 AM] kenpurcell
Those kind of car mods trigger my rule of 2's. Whatever you did will cost at least as much to undo.


[7/29/2020 9:47 AM] andrew5152
"I built it to win a $50 bet with a friend, used it twice, I get what I get. Never lost a bet. That's all that matters."


[7/29/2020 9:48 AM] nullinterface
that thing had to be peak 'custom seller desperation'

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[7/29/2020 9:48 AM] nullinterface
interior was largely missing ...


[7/29/2020 9:48 AM] nullinterface
but they wanted premium greenbacks


[7/29/2020 9:49 AM] andrew5152
as my MIL says: want in one hand, poop in the other...let me know which fills first.


[7/29/2020 9:49 AM] nullinterface
the dealer selling it probably regretted doing the favor for a friend's kid

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[7/29/2020 9:50 AM] kenpurcell
Super Wide Wheel Spacers are the best for me. Following one of those fools you can see the physics is action. "Hmmmmm, wonder how long before that putz is walking."


[7/29/2020 9:50 AM] andrew5152
lol


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[7/29/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
for the strickland/bene crowd...


[7/29/2020 9:51 AM] nullinterface
suspect they walked away from making that sale or eventually came down to the reality that selling an un-inspectable vehicle requires *discounting*


[7/29/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
oh yeah, and lecody (somehow I forget he's a heep "driver", too)


[7/29/2020 9:54 AM] kenpurcell
@aceat64 was mainly doing electrical "upgrades"


[7/29/2020 9:57 AM] andrew5152
"upgrades" like...trying to keep the dash lights on when they should be on, and off when they should be off?


[7/29/2020 9:58 AM] doug.emes
USB all the things

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[7/29/2020 10:20 AM] ferricyanide7475
I lived in the middle of no where too long.... those lowered cars wouldn't make it  😂 hell my regular car didn't cut it sometimes. I distinctly remember getting my car stuck in my friends driveway by the undercarriage? and his dad having to rescue it.


[7/29/2020 10:23 AM] andrew5152
this guy got tired of that... so he did something about it!
http://build-threads.com/build-threads/lifted-mkv-golf/

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[7/29/2020 10:28 AM] quattroquattro
I just wish the 90's style neon lights would make a comeback


[7/29/2020 10:29 AM] andrew5152
lol


[7/29/2020 10:29 AM] andrew5152
did they ever go anywhere?


[7/29/2020 10:30 AM] andrew5152
note on this video I linked earlier, they put the bolts on the bottom of the strut back in CORRECTLY, instead of wrongly, as they were when removed...


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[7/29/2020 10:31 AM] andrew5152
This is wrong:

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[7/29/2020 10:41 AM] ferricyanide7475
Yeah, there were several lifted cars in town. Kinda necessary depending on where you went


[7/29/2020 10:47 AM] nullinterface
stupid expensive neon undercarriage lights became cheap LED lights


[7/29/2020 10:51 AM] andrew5152
they did the cold cathode thing, too, didn't they?


[7/29/2020 10:52 AM] nullinterface
maybe - probably cheaper than neon


[7/29/2020 10:53 AM] andrew5152
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/scion-tc-1g-ice-interior-1647/cold-cathode-vs-led-lighting-51937/

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[7/29/2020 10:54 AM] nullinterface
2006.  *things have changed since then*.


[7/29/2020 10:54 AM] andrew5152
lol


[7/29/2020 10:54 AM] andrew5152
indeed


[7/29/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152
some things even got better...


[7/29/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152
GET OFF MY LAWN!


[7/29/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152
damned kids...


[7/29/2020 10:55 AM] skyspook
Think spinners will ever come back?

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[7/29/2020 10:55 AM] nullinterface
probably


[7/29/2020 10:55 AM] andrew5152
never went anywhere, did they


[7/29/2020 10:56 AM] andrew5152
(actually, I think the non-spinners on RR are still there)


[7/29/2020 10:56 AM] nullinterface
persistence of vision displays might come back too


[7/29/2020 10:56 AM] skyspook
Those are fun. I should make another one of those


[7/29/2020 10:57 AM] andrew5152
no idea how they're doing the HUD these days...


[7/29/2020 10:57 AM] andrew5152
been trying to make that a thing since...well...forever, as far as I know


[7/29/2020 10:57 AM] nullinterface
forgot how expensive those were when they came out circa 2000


[7/29/2020 10:57 AM] skyspook
I have a decent one in my Veloster. I actually like it


[7/29/2020 10:58 AM] andrew5152
yeah. At best, they're not annoying. (says the guy who's never used one)


[7/29/2020 10:59 AM] skyspook
This one flips down when you don't want it. So the best kind I suppose :)


[7/29/2020 11:01 AM] michaelb5250
Flip down screens are nice


[7/29/2020 11:01 AM] michaelb5250
I've got GPS navigation in my G35, but it's very dated and has no recent map updates.


[7/29/2020 11:02 AM] michaelb5250
Luckily, the display hides into the dash so you don't have to stare at it. It was a good idea


[7/29/2020 11:47 AM] aceat64
I've actually done a ton to the Jeep now lol


[7/29/2020 11:47 AM] aceat64
But I need to find a new battery isolator because the one I had died and running two batteries in parallel isn't working out as well as I'd like

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[7/29/2020 11:53 AM] nullinterface
friend had a powerstroke diesel that had 2 batteries in parallel with nothing more than big cables connecting them


[7/29/2020 11:53 AM] nullinterface
1994 if I recall


[7/29/2020 11:57 AM] andrew5152
pretty sure all powersmokes came with dual batteries


[7/29/2020 11:58 AM] andrew5152
rumor has it was for weight balancing, so they mounted one on each side
also why they put the turbo in the center, instead of on one side or the other
this is the Ford superiority over the Dodge Cummins
*none of this is true


[7/29/2020 11:59 AM] nullinterface
*something something **compression ignition needs more cranking amps***


[7/29/2020 11:59 AM] nullinterface
yeah, mounted opposite sides of the engine compartment


[7/29/2020 12:00 PM] nullinterface
excessively long cable joining the secondary battery to the primary, but same for trunk-mounted batteries in sports cars I suppose


[7/29/2020 12:01 PM] andrew5152
ditto all BMWs with their under-seat mounting (well maybe not ALL, but the point is that it's not just "sports" cars)


[7/29/2020 12:01 PM] skyspook
Moar Amps = More betterer

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[7/29/2020 12:02 PM] nullinterface
arguably the 42V systems the industry was on the cusp of in the early 90s would be better than MOAR amps, but we'll never know for sure


[7/29/2020 12:03 PM] andrew5152
the 12v has had remarkable staying power


[7/29/2020 12:03 PM] nullinterface
> the 12v has had remarkable ~~staying power~~ ***inertia***
@A. Spencer(jast) FTFY


[7/29/2020 12:03 PM] skyspook
Never underestimate the laziness of engineers


[7/29/2020 12:03 PM] michaelb5250
There's a recent push to 48v systems again, it'll happen eventually


[7/29/2020 12:03 PM] andrew5152
well...


[7/29/2020 12:04 PM] andrew5152
with the push to all electric, they can really have any voltage they want anywhere they want...


[7/29/2020 12:04 PM] aceat64
I think the only reason we even have 12v cars is due to the cell chemistry


[7/29/2020 12:04 PM] nullinterface
industry got lazy and at the last minute realized that their tendency to direct-switch power for things like window motors would mean new switches or doing away with their cable rat tails altogether


[7/29/2020 12:04 PM] andrew5152
as long as I can use my mobile device charger while the car drives me around, what do I care?


[7/29/2020 12:05 PM] nullinterface
lead-acid is nominally 2V per cell.  jump from 6V to 12V *batteries* was doubling the cell count per battery.


[7/29/2020 12:06 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah... the traction battery can be whatever voltage they chose, there's only a few standards and limitations, but control power will remain low voltage for safety reasons if anything


[7/29/2020 12:06 PM] michaelb5250
The 48v push is for 'mild hybrid' systems with electric assist afaik


[7/29/2020 12:06 PM] aceat64
There's just so much infrastructure and parts/ICs built for 12v


[7/29/2020 12:06 PM] nullinterface
idle stop presumably


[7/29/2020 12:07 PM] aceat64
A lot of inertia to overcome if a manufacturer wants to move off 12v


[7/29/2020 12:08 PM] andrew5152
back in the 90's, I was expecting the jump to 24v as the natural extension of 12 v (just put in 2 batteries), but it never quite happened... 🤷‍♂️ 
i guess we'll see what tomorrow brings


[7/29/2020 12:10 PM] nullinterface
42V was going to be triple peak voltage of automotive 12V since ~2.4V is peak cell voltage for lead-acid.  one of the benefits was supposed to be electrically-driven accessories rather than belt-driven.


[7/29/2020 12:12 PM] kenpurcell
When I worked at a golf course as a teen we had electric golf carts with six 6V deep discharge batteries. The crew work carts had at least two additional batteries. As a fun exercise the mechanic added two more and what fun we had! Could get to the back 9 pretty damn quick provided the suspension held up.


[7/29/2020 12:13 PM] andrew5152
they talked about how electric power steering assist couldn't be done on 12v back when I kept up better (90s)... Guess they cracked something since I think most cars now use electric assist steer.


[7/29/2020 12:14 PM] nullinterface
if it's just a matter of *voltage*, DC-DC power conversion is pretty trivial nowadays


[7/29/2020 12:15 PM] nullinterface
this fact makes the continued existence of 9V batteries confusing


[7/29/2020 12:16 PM] skyspook
When you're selling something and you can save 2 cents per unit without the converter....  Plus, what else can you lick to make sure it works?


[7/29/2020 12:16 PM] nullinterface
the same trick works with car batteries too ...


[7/29/2020 12:16 PM] kenpurcell
used to tear 9V batteries apart to find basically AAAAs.


[7/29/2020 12:16 PM] skyspook
Tastes like burning


[7/29/2020 12:17 PM] kenpurcell
And coppery


[7/29/2020 12:19 PM] nullinterface
it's only 3 more volts


[7/29/2020 12:20 PM] nullinterface
of course it's the secret sauce of 9V that makes them so crappy that results in them not burning your tongue off like a car battery


[7/29/2020 12:20 PM] skyspook
I like the powder on the car batteries. Tastes like cotton candy


[7/29/2020 12:20 PM] nullinterface
spicy cotton candy


[7/29/2020 12:26 PM] nullinterface
the $0.02/unit thing is also why we have PWM modulation on LED tail lights and DRLs as opposed to slightly more expensive multiple current controllers, PWM rates that exceed visual perception, or in the case of tail lights just switching off ~80% of the LEDs for running


[7/29/2020 12:29 PM] nullinterface
New alternator for the Ranger arrived.  Guess I get to wash-rinse-repeat on replacing belt-driven accessories until it stops squealing.

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[7/29/2020 12:30 PM] skyspook
That's a fun game


[7/29/2020 12:31 PM] nullinterface
Rock Auto should send out a whack-a-mole scratch-off game with each order


[7/29/2020 12:32 PM] skyspook
What, and lose the magnets that get to cover everything?


[7/29/2020 12:32 PM] nullinterface
could do both


[7/29/2020 4:12 PM] kenpurcell
SLS pistons https://hackaday.com/2020/07/28/porsches-printed-pistons-are-powerful-and-precise/

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[7/29/2020 5:04 PM] themitch22
Another reason we need a metal 3D printer at DMS


[7/29/2020 5:13 PM] hon1nbo
@aceat64 I've had great success with the Noco isolators


[7/29/2020 5:16 PM] aceat64
I'll check it out


[7/29/2020 5:56 PM] skyspook
Wait, I didn't realize we give actual advice here


[7/29/2020 6:00 PM] andrew5152
it's more like 😉 advice 😉  ya takes ya chances


[7/29/2020 6:02 PM] andrew5152
gotta say, I never would have thought about hitting mahle up for a job in 3d printing... (well, maybe if I had my head more in that world, but I don't)


[7/29/2020 6:03 PM] andrew5152
heck, I still struggle to say hypereutectic properly (which, per my spell check, is not a word)


[8/1/2020 2:33 PM] nullinterface


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[8/1/2020 2:34 PM] nullinterface
successfully whacked that mole


[8/1/2020 2:55 PM] doug.emes
Yep there's voltage.  HF is perfect  for that


[8/1/2020 3:20 PM] nullinterface
squealing is gone so it was the alternator after all


[8/1/2020 3:22 PM] nullinterface
for less money and more effort I could have replaced the bearings, but that would necessitate pressing bearings out of then back into the original part


[8/1/2020 3:27 PM] doug.emes
on a hot summer day, no thank you,


[8/1/2020 3:27 PM] doug.emes
4runner been sitting dead for 2+weeks because i dont even want to bother doing liquids and replace the battery on it right now


[8/1/2020 3:42 PM] nullinterface
didn't break 90 until after completion


[8/1/2020 3:43 PM] nullinterface
however, trying to source ~~a~~ bearing***s*** then the challenges of pressing both out of and into an aluminum shell was far more time investment and more risk than I cared for


[8/1/2020 3:44 PM] nullinterface
Rock Auto price for a new AC Delco roughly similar to Auto Zone et al's price for their house brand remanufactured parts


[8/1/2020 5:06 PM] andrew5152
👍 
not "pressing" so much...more hammering. but the hard part is the pulling. Usually you need a bearing puller for that.


[8/1/2020 5:13 PM] nullinterface
hammering into aluminum seems sketchy


[8/1/2020 5:13 PM] canibalcrab
We had to do it on the side of the road for the bus


[8/1/2020 5:13 PM] canibalcrab
Do not recommend


[8/1/2020 5:14 PM] nullinterface
it was a time-for-money trade and ... the old alternator had >100k miles on it.  forget the voltage it was putting out.


[8/1/2020 5:16 PM] nullinterface
looks like it was ~14.15.  in the normal range but a tad low.


[8/1/2020 5:17 PM] nullinterface
now there's just the mysterious self-sealing power steering leak to possibly address


[8/1/2020 5:18 PM] nullinterface
wibbly engine mount that plagues pretty much every high-milage 3.0L Ranger is far too large of a project at this point


[8/1/2020 5:19 PM] nullinterface
since I gather that's a project that mandates excessive disassembly of the front end


[8/1/2020 5:22 PM] nullinterface
I guess I could futz with the passenger side window motor - that's a ~$65 part and some mild re-engineering


[8/1/2020 5:38 PM] andrew5152
can confirm hammering bearings into aluminum is just a daily activity  for folks who do this kind of thing for a living. Never even think twice about it. (not that dedicated rebuilders don't have specialized equipment that might include presses, but can confirm not all of those do NOT hammer bearings into aluminum en masse, either)


[8/1/2020 5:39 PM] nullinterface
ah well.  maybe in another 100k miles I can experiment.


[8/1/2020 5:48 PM] andrew5152
did you "trade in" the old? (not sure how Rock Auto does "cores")


[8/1/2020 6:06 PM] nullinterface
nope


[8/1/2020 6:17 PM] judykriehn3727
> on a hot summer day, no thank you,
@doug.emes


[8/1/2020 6:18 PM] judykriehn3727
But Doug. You forget. Hot summer days are when Erik most enjoys sweaty labor like building sheds in the backyard or major landscape work. Probably because it feels so good when he STOPS.


[8/1/2020 6:35 PM] nullinterface
almost nothing this year compares to 2018


[8/1/2020 6:40 PM] doug.emes
just trimming some limbs today with a 18v sawzall wore my tuckus out. Somewhere between 12 and 20 minutes tops outside


[8/1/2020 9:27 PM] nullinterface
And it runs better than it has in a year


[8/1/2020 10:32 PM] judykriehn3727
> almost nothing this year compares to 2018
@ESmith
Tru Dat.


[8/1/2020 11:01 PM] nullinterface
I would like to design and build more structures, however in spite of my "reputation", triple-digit heat indexes are not a required feature of the build


[8/2/2020 8:57 AM] judykriehn3727
But triple digits seem to spur the yen to do so


[8/2/2020 12:35 PM] nullinterface
I procrastinated on the design and commitment, thus rather than start in March I started in May then plowed through it


[8/4/2020 10:38 PM] engpin1964
What is with all the screws and nails in the auto area.    I keep finding them


[8/4/2020 10:40 PM] canibalcrab
It's to keep auto people coming back to the space


[8/4/2020 10:40 PM] canibalcrab
It's part of the grand conspiracy


[8/5/2020 2:50 PM] engpin1964
Yeah. It needs to stop just had to replace a tire on my Jeep.  300 a tire is not cheap


[8/5/2020 4:17 PM] themitch22
Its a jeep thing we wouldn't understand :-P


[8/5/2020 7:41 PM] engpin1964
Lol


[8/7/2020 8:51 PM] nullinterface
Lolz
https://www.facebook.com/36766739494/posts/10157952699234495/


[8/7/2020 8:53 PM] skyspook
hah. Well done


[8/7/2020 9:51 PM] andrew5152
a relatively rust-free example; pity it's turned into a lemons beast. But hey, some kid'll get to see the eyetalyun byoot at-stride. At least it's still running the lahnchya engine... that surprised the heck out of me!


[8/10/2020 2:13 PM] patrickpleez1
Guess I’m vice chair


[8/10/2020 2:13 PM] patrickpleez1
According to talk


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[8/10/2020 2:35 PM] andrew5152
If I recall correctly, that is vistigial of Jim's asking you to do it whilst he was chair... @michaelb  hasn't weighed in yet...
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/2020-newly-appointed-chairs-name-your-vice-chairs-here/73897/
you want it to stay for now, or go?


[8/10/2020 2:36 PM] andrew5152
also, are you volunteering for volunteer coordinator again?


[8/10/2020 2:55 PM] hon1nbo
@Patrickpleez1 you offered during the meeting


[8/10/2020 2:56 PM] hon1nbo
sorry but you threw yourself under that bus 😛


[8/10/2020 3:00 PM] patrickpleez1
I expected a message or something saying that it happened.


[8/10/2020 3:01 PM] patrickpleez1
I am good for it. Just didn’t know


[8/10/2020 3:05 PM] patrickpleez1
@A. Spencer(jast) yes to both. I’ll do them.

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[8/10/2020 3:06 PM] aceat64
woah woah woah, no one said anything about busses


[8/10/2020 3:06 PM] aceat64
we're not doing that again


[8/10/2020 3:06 PM] aceat64
🤣


[8/10/2020 3:06 PM] nullinterface
haw!


[8/10/2020 3:06 PM] kentamanos
#toosoon


[8/10/2020 3:09 PM] patrickpleez1
No more busses

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[8/10/2020 3:16 PM] patrickpleez1
I must be going insane


[8/10/2020 3:17 PM] patrickpleez1
I’ve been listening to disco for 4 hours


[8/10/2020 3:18 PM] aceat64
lol why


[8/10/2020 3:18 PM] patrickpleez1
Hit on Pandora accidentally


[8/10/2020 3:18 PM] aceat64
:rip:


[8/10/2020 3:19 PM] patrickpleez1
Thriller isn’t disco


[8/10/2020 3:19 PM] patrickpleez1
Is it


[8/10/2020 3:19 PM] patrickpleez1
I don’t think so


[8/10/2020 4:01 PM] themitch22
MJ is disco adjacent maybe


[8/10/2020 4:07 PM] kentamanos
Pretty sure this isn't disco... (sorry, it's on my reddit front page):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT_bu9QpOFg

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Bad (Michael Jackson) - Bluegrass Edition
Michael Jackson's "Bad" as a bluegrass song. Once again, I'm terribly sorry.
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[8/10/2020 4:27 PM] patrickpleez1
Lol


[8/12/2020 3:54 PM] canibalcrab
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3057461774304035/

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1933 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
Clean title vehicle. This unique truck runs and drives and will not leave you stranded.  Guarantee that you will be the center of attention.  Modification available upon request. Please contact for...
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[8/12/2020 3:55 PM] canibalcrab
Dani said no


[8/12/2020 3:55 PM] canibalcrab
Someone get this


[8/12/2020 3:56 PM] mizgeek
I need air conditioning... some should get!


[8/12/2020 3:57 PM] skyspook
Not my thing for $8k. Pretty cool though.


[8/12/2020 4:25 PM] kenpurcell
Oh my I can see you driving that with an overly big top hat and monocle


[8/12/2020 4:25 PM] skyspook
Oh yes. We could take up a collection for this


[8/12/2020 5:20 PM] canibalcrab
It's perfect. If I don't buy it she can't be mad


[8/12/2020 6:19 PM] quattroquattro
Came across an ad today for a car built from DIY plans from a magazine in 1951.

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[8/12/2020 6:20 PM] quattroquattro
I've been furiously googling to see if I can find the original instructions


[8/12/2020 6:22 PM] quattroquattro
Some people apparently built them well enough to get a mention in hemmings. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2016/03/14/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1941-ford-mechanix-illustrated-special

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[8/12/2020 6:22 PM] skyspook
That's pretty cool


[8/12/2020 6:24 PM] skyspook
Adjusting for inflation, "under $500" is "under $8800"

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[8/12/2020 6:30 PM] quattroquattro
Except that the donor car is apparently a 31 chevy.  Did a quick search and the cheapest running one I found was $5000. Most are north of 20k


[8/12/2020 6:31 PM] skyspook
So we're back to the 33 fleetmaster then 🙂


[8/12/2020 6:33 PM] quattroquattro
That could work... If I had the cash


[8/12/2020 6:33 PM] skyspook
I'm thinking I don't want to tie up cash in yet another vehicle I can't get rid of


[8/12/2020 6:44 PM] quattroquattro
Speaking of which I've got a saab 93 convertible if anyone is interested:
2002 93SE
Ran last time I started it
No reverse
Roof doesn't go down, but that's ok because it leaks like crazy so you can always have that true outdoor experience
4 flat tires
Possibly two bent rims
Leather is good, but smells of cat urine which is weird because you would think the racoons would keep the cats out.
New water pump

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[8/12/2020 6:44 PM] skyspook
What a steal


[8/12/2020 6:44 PM] quattroquattro
A bargain at twice the price


[8/12/2020 6:44 PM] skyspook
And no low ballers cause you know what you got?


[8/12/2020 6:44 PM] quattroquattro
Exactly!


[8/12/2020 6:45 PM] quattroquattro
Though it's hard to go lower than "please tow it away"


[8/12/2020 6:46 PM] quattroquattro
As soon as the replacement title arrives it's getting donated to cars for kids or salvation army


[8/12/2020 6:46 PM] quattroquattro
It's likely worth a bit in parts because the engine is all there


[8/12/2020 6:53 PM] skyspook
Same place newport is gonna go. Looked at tires and brakes and the car scares me too much to even bring down to the space


[8/12/2020 7:10 PM] hon1nbo
@Skyspook still interested in taking a look at it. Brakes and tires usually aren't too much of a big deal.


[8/12/2020 7:32 PM] canibalcrab
I have 2 cars to get rid of


[8/12/2020 7:33 PM] skyspook
Frankencar? Double decker?


[8/12/2020 7:33 PM] canibalcrab


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[8/12/2020 7:33 PM] canibalcrab
86 Suburban and volvo v70


[8/12/2020 7:55 PM] quattroquattro
What are you asking for them?


[8/12/2020 7:59 PM] canibalcrab
$1000 for the Volvo and $2500 for the suburban


[8/12/2020 7:59 PM] canibalcrab
Volvo needs the oil pickup filter changed and that's a pain


[8/12/2020 8:51 PM] kenpurcell
That bus looks interesting!


[8/12/2020 8:54 PM] canibalcrab
Keeps the kids off my lawn


[8/12/2020 10:04 PM] andrew5152
soo... what led to the 9-3 being parked? I'm assuming the bent wheels? Pity. That's the last of the Trollhaten SAABs, if I'm remembering/reading correctly(and it was produced early in 2002, i.e. a Gen I)... It's a slushbox, I presume?


[8/12/2020 10:51 PM] quattroquattro
It stopped going into reverse, the hydrolics on the roof went at roughly the same time. It had just had the new water pump done and a wiring problem fixed to the tune of $2500, the estimate came back at $5000 for the parts and repairs. The bent wheels was a minor preexisting condition.


[8/12/2020 10:52 PM] quattroquattro
The car has some strange design issues too. I had a problem for a while that every time I put the car in reverse the wiper fuze would blow


[8/12/2020 10:54 PM] quattroquattro
The little yellow side lights on the front quarter panels light up in reverse and for some unknown reason share the fuse with the wipers instead of the other lights. There was a short in one of the light fixtures so it blew a fuze every time I backed it out of a space. It took forever to figure that one out


[8/12/2020 10:57 PM] quattroquattro
Every part on that car at the time was basically $1000 because it was out of production and everyone selling parts knew it.


[8/12/2020 11:10 PM] andrew5152
Well... that hasn't gotten better...
It's an auto trans, right?


[8/13/2020 6:36 AM] quattroquattro
Yes, there are basically no manuals of that generation in texas that aren't a viggen. I couldn't afford a viggen at the time

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[8/13/2020 7:25 AM] nullinterface
nice patina on that bus


[8/13/2020 9:17 AM] canibalcrab
That's mostly iron paint that we put on


[8/13/2020 11:48 AM] judykriehn3727
> Every part on that car at the time was basically $1000 because it was out of production and everyone selling parts knew it.
@quattroquattro  that was a big part of my problem with the 2002 Honda CRV I bought new. Except everything seemed to cost $1500. And that model of the car had just gone into production  in 2001.


[8/13/2020 12:38 PM] andrew5152
The SAAB 9-3 had some...interesting hurdles from inception. 
* SAAB was not long for this world (although they put up a valiant fight, they ceased to exist as far as parts support, in 2000 when GM increased its ownership from the 50% acquired in 1989 (😢 ) to 100% (😢 ♾️ )
* GM now owned SAAB, and provided the "platform", which was also about to change from the bulletproof "H engine" to whatever GM had lying around the parts bin
* included in that change, complete driveline swap to "ecotech" (pronounced yeeeechohNOtech)
so obvs, they tots cranked out a brand new hydro-actuated droptop that completely abandoned virtually ALL of SAAB's USP list... Still was an interesting car, and 2002 was the last year for honest-to-god Trollhaten production using SAAB engine and SAAB engine management (vastly superior to MOST other systems @ the time; but unique and superior never really made much diff in the auto-world (see Deusenberg, Cord, and Tucker for examples))
Anyway. Were I in a different place, my truck & trailer would already have snatched the 9-3 and the V70 out of those yards; the V70 b/c that repair isn't that difficult, and I LOVE me some Volvos, esp. wagons (but would not keep) and I've always wanted to have a SAAB (but also would not keep; sounds fun to fix, though)


[8/13/2020 12:45 PM] andrew5152
amusing side note on the CRV:
Though technically it was "new"  in 1995, it was, technically, just the typical 3-year overhaul of the Honda Civic Wagon with a slight height bump and snazzy new name ("Civic Recreational Vehicle", according to me, but aka "Comfortable Runabout Vehicle" & "Compact Recreational Vehicle" according to Honda, so I guess they win). The American public REALLY liked the "grown up" Civic Wagon; the sales were off the charts!


[8/13/2020 12:50 PM] quattroquattro
Trust me, you don't want the saab. When you fix one part the one next to it gets jealous and throws a tantrum. It's not a lemon it's a whole citrus grove

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[8/13/2020 12:53 PM] andrew5152
lol
I'm well-aware of European car behavior, and aware that the SAAB lineup has always occupied the "petulant little brother" seat on that train...


[8/13/2020 12:53 PM] andrew5152
but a 900 turbo 16v at full song is a great, great thing


[8/13/2020 1:04 PM] themitch22
My dad has put 5 or 6 CRV's over 200k miles for his job, he's fixed most of the common problems. They're pretty great cars. SAAB would be cool but too niche to be considered even as a cash car. I seem to see a BMW at the space at least once a month lol


[8/13/2020 1:06 PM] themitch22
I'm one to talk though, Mini Coopers are the most fun you can have between paychecks


[8/13/2020 2:18 PM] quattroquattro
I'd have to disagree on the mini's are the most fun. Fiats are clearly more fun 😉


[8/13/2020 2:22 PM] andrew5152
I dunno...
Big Money Wasted
vs
Failure In Automotive Technology
😉

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[8/13/2020 2:39 PM] quattroquattro
Truth be told, one of the best things about the fiat is how badly they depreciate. You can pick up low mileage used ones for next to nothing


[8/13/2020 2:41 PM] quattroquattro
Mine was a year and a half old and 15k miles when I got it. I paid 12k under list


[8/13/2020 2:41 PM] quattroquattro
If it wasn't an Abarth it would be cheaper


[8/13/2020 2:46 PM] themitch22
Before I got the Mini I was seriously considering the Fiat 500 when they first came out in 2012ish it probably would have been a better financial decision


[8/13/2020 2:46 PM] themitch22
I was first looking at smart cars but I knew I wanted a European hatchback of some kind


[8/13/2020 2:47 PM] themitch22
Wasn't impressed with the Golf at the time


[8/13/2020 2:50 PM] andrew5152
Looked @ both in 2017. Bought a GTI. (technically, my wife did; I got a Jetta, because one of us needs a "sensible car"). Also in 2013, when we bought a TDI Golf. No regrets. Loved that car. Love the GTI. Love the Jetta (shockingly - it was supposed to be a "stop gap" that I would be thrilled to get rid of in 3 years, but that little 1.4 is a freakin' monster! and I love seeing a "4" in the tens column of fuel economy figures on roadtrips...)


[8/13/2020 2:52 PM] skyspook
My only problem with the Jetta is mine fell apart completely around 140k (had a 2002). Though that's probably due to the lifespan of any car around the great lakes with salt and whatnot.


[8/13/2020 3:01 PM] andrew5152
I have a wicked love affair with vw. Had 02 jetta, hailed on,  so traded for 03. Drove to 150k, gave to family member,  totalled 15k later. Had 02 golf, sold in 2017 with 238k on mostly original equipment. Nice kid, Audi tech, bought it. Couldn't get here fast enough when I told him it was original clutch. 13 tdi with 50k was never right after wreck, traded for 15 TDI. Drove that to 88k, let vw give me back my purchases price,  and applied that to the 18 GTI. 17 jetta has 56k on it...figured to trade it out about now,  but despite the ugly,  Taurus-like appearance,  I actually like the darned thing...


[8/13/2020 3:02 PM] andrew5152
But our rustworms are smaller here than in the midwest


[8/13/2020 3:04 PM] skyspook
Just a bit. It's amazing the cars I see around here that just couldn't exist anymore around Cleveland. My poor vw just started dropping suspension and axle parts, then the body started rusting out. Just couldn't keep up.


[8/13/2020 3:04 PM] andrew5152
yep


[8/13/2020 3:04 PM] andrew5152
and in california...


[8/13/2020 3:04 PM] andrew5152
texas mouths go agape at the old metal still running around there


[8/13/2020 3:04 PM] themitch22
I thought modern cars prevent rust


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] skyspook
It's really funny reading the book-time for any undercarriage work. It's always 2-5 times as long in northern cars 🙂


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] skyspook
Yea, no


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] skyspook
They try


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] andrew5152
they have friggin' school busses from the 1960s


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] skyspook
And it's gotten better


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] themitch22
Not a lot of aluminum chassis cars


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] themitch22
The original Honda insight, and Lotus


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] themitch22
NSX


[8/13/2020 3:05 PM] skyspook
Yep, an even then they'll use steel in suspension and bolts, etc. You still end up rebuilding a lot


[8/13/2020 3:06 PM] skyspook
When I knew I was moving down here I sold our cars and bought one that'll never see salt.


[8/13/2020 3:06 PM] andrew5152
yeah, go north, and a BFH and its corrolary oxy-acetylene torch are in every toolbox, cause you're not doing anything under any car without them


[8/13/2020 3:06 PM] skyspook
And you learn to wear goggles real fast, unless you like rust in the eye 🙂

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[8/13/2020 3:07 PM] skyspook
I'd take a shower and it'd look like pepper coming off of me


[8/13/2020 3:07 PM] andrew5152
Rustbeltians are like "why the hell would you  NOT wear safety glasses under a car, eh"?


[8/13/2020 3:10 PM] themitch22
I've seen cars on the lift at dms, not the only reason to wear eye protection


[8/13/2020 3:13 PM] themitch22
https://youtu.be/kkwgZgrbWUM

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[8/13/2020 3:13 PM] themitch22
Always use proper jack stands


[8/13/2020 3:13 PM] themitch22
This is probably the scariest thing that can happen


[8/13/2020 3:16 PM] kenpurcell
I bought a mid life crisis Mustang w/ 550 RWH, keep it five years with no tickets or jail time. Sold it for only $2k less. But spent that at least in tires.

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[8/13/2020 3:17 PM] themitch22
I didn't buy an AP2 S2000 because the insurance was almost double the mini Cooper


[8/13/2020 3:18 PM] themitch22
And a C5 corvette glad I passed on because of the tires as well


[8/13/2020 3:19 PM] themitch22
S2000 one the best cars I've driven besides my dads Shelby cobra kit car

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[8/13/2020 3:34 PM] quattroquattro
For my money if I am going to get into wrenching heavily on a vehicle again it's going to be an old MGB. Rust problems, wiring problems, leak problems, still my favorite car

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[8/13/2020 3:55 PM] quattroquattro
Take my favorites with a grain of salt though, as #2 on the list is a 1976 mustang 2 ghia and #3 is a fiero


[8/13/2020 3:56 PM] andrew5152
lol


[8/13/2020 3:56 PM] andrew5152
lovemesomefiero


[8/13/2020 3:57 PM] andrew5152
anything ghia'd be fun to say you own


[8/13/2020 3:57 PM] nullinterface
I have a hate-hate relationship with cars


[8/13/2020 3:58 PM] nullinterface
namely, a combination of automakers design decisions, pricing, and the entire loathesome process of buying a car conspire to the point that the market's *supply* doesn't meet my level of *demand*


[8/13/2020 4:00 PM] andrew5152
but today's cars suuuuure make pining for yesteryear easy - every "car guy" ever


[8/13/2020 4:01 PM] nullinterface
for all the difficulty of working on modern cars, they tend to make up for it with greater reliability

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[8/13/2020 4:03 PM] andrew5152
was looking for what I was thinking was my favorite of the Ghia cars I know about...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Disco_Volante_by_Touring

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The Alfa Romeo Disco Volante by Touring is a two-seater coupé, built by Carrozzeria Touring in 2013. It is based on the Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione.
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[8/13/2020 4:03 PM] andrew5152
turns out, it's NOT Ghia...


[8/13/2020 4:04 PM] andrew5152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Disco_Volante_by_Touring

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Alfa Romeo Disco Volante by Touring
The Alfa Romeo Disco Volante by Touring is a two-seater coupé, built by Carrozzeria Touring in 2013. It is based on the Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione.
The model name is derived from the Disco Volante of the 1950s. Equipped with a front-central engine of 4.7 L of displacement, it ...
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[8/13/2020 4:04 PM] andrew5152
oh well... it's still Italian.


[8/13/2020 4:07 PM] michaelb5250
Clarkson did a top gear piece on the DV a while back. As is tradition he absolutely gushed over it.


[8/13/2020 4:11 PM] andrew5152
don't remember that... maybe I missed it.
did he gush b/c Alfa, or b/c Touring?


[8/13/2020 4:13 PM] michaelb5250
Both really.


[8/13/2020 4:14 PM] andrew5152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxF9vFJezRA

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Alfa Romeo Disco Volante | Top Gear | Series 21 | BBC
Jeremy is in Italy to celebrate the return of the bespoke car building company Touring, with their latest product a modified Alfa Romeo 8C. But has it worked? Clip taken from series 21 episode 4.

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[8/13/2020 4:14 PM] michaelb5250
yup there you go


[8/13/2020 4:14 PM] andrew5152
how the hell don't I remember this?
<quantum leap "swiss cheese" theory insert>


[8/13/2020 5:06 PM] quattroquattro
This is the mustang 2 ghia.

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[8/13/2020 5:06 PM] quattroquattro
Note the half vinyl top and stamped metal wheel covers


[8/13/2020 5:07 PM] nullinterface
I do have an irrational affinity for the C5 Vette, but by the time I'll feel comfortable throwing that kind of money around they'll become collectible


[8/13/2020 5:07 PM] quattroquattro
I had that exact car once, it was satisfying in the way a good leisure suit is satisfying

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[8/13/2020 5:19 PM] andrew5152
I either case, I'd imagine the most satisfaction coming from ridding oneself of it...
but then, I'm kind of the black sheep of my generation, having an unhealthy affinity for a different past decade or two than my peers...


[8/13/2020 5:47 PM] themitch22
I really like the C5 corvette, the interiors were infamously corporate GM


[8/13/2020 5:48 PM] themitch22
The C8 corvette is a wet dream though.  I like how it went from "working class sports car" I don't know anyone in the working class that can afford one new


[8/13/2020 5:50 PM] themitch22
My dream car right now is a non-technology EV. Like a tesla with mechanical everything except a drive train.


[8/13/2020 6:06 PM] nullinterface
@themitch22 probably never going to happen


[8/13/2020 6:07 PM] nullinterface
rode in a C5 vette once and yeah still had the dumb GM seatbelt buckles and parts bin interior once you got past the logos


[8/13/2020 6:09 PM] nullinterface
seems like every memorable marquee in the automotive world gets a combination of bigger, more capable, and more expensive with time to the point that something new is invariably created to fill the slot


[8/13/2020 6:11 PM] themitch22
I'm into 90s Kei cars, I wish they were more popular in the US


[8/13/2020 6:13 PM] adam1334
I'm still in love with my S2000.  Of course it's primary purpose quickly went from daily driver to trackday toy, and I got a cheap CRV to dottle around town in.


[8/13/2020 6:14 PM] quattroquattro
@themitch22 this company makes old cars into ev's https://www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/

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[8/13/2020 6:14 PM] quattroquattro
Probably the only way you are getting an all mechanical ev


[8/13/2020 6:15 PM] themitch22
Yeah EV beetle or karma ghia has been on my wishlist since I was a kid


[8/13/2020 6:15 PM] themitch22
Even had a book about ev conversions


[8/13/2020 6:16 PM] themitch22
It was the $10k or so in parts that stopped me from doing it


[8/13/2020 6:26 PM] andrew5152
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-volkswagen-beetle-convertible-33/

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[8/13/2020 7:06 PM] canibalcrab
ijust had a firend get into kei cars @themitch22


[8/13/2020 7:19 PM] themitch22
Autozam AZ-1


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[8/14/2020 8:09 AM] adam1334
A buddy of mine has a Suzuki Cappuciino that he was using as his daily driver for quite a while.   Fun little car to drive.  Note that he's got to be 6'3 and probably 250lbs+

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[8/14/2020 8:09 AM] adam1334
Note: Not his car.


[8/14/2020 8:10 AM] adam1334
The jealousy runs deep.  Maybe I should get one for @NobleGoblin


[8/14/2020 8:14 AM] nullinterface
I suspect that most people in my height range lack my inseam thus don't have *quite* the problems I do with ergonomics


[8/14/2020 8:17 AM] andrew5152
Suzuki makes a kick-ass kei (and some other classes, too) car. The Swift GTi was one of the most under rated cars ever sold on these shores (not a kei, as those were never sold here, but still, a real kick-in-the-shorts small driver's car)


[8/14/2020 8:50 AM] themitch22
@ESmith you and I have opposite ergonomics problems then.


[8/14/2020 9:04 AM] nullinterface
#outlierstories


[8/14/2020 9:13 AM] themitch22
They clearly never made motorcycles for 25in inseam. I had one of the few bikes that did.


[8/14/2020 9:14 AM] themitch22
Glad I succumb to the fear of ever riding in Dallas ever again. At least most cars I can adjust the seat to see over the dashboard mostly


[8/14/2020 9:15 AM] themitch22
Partially why I like the idea of Kei cars


[8/14/2020 9:18 AM] nullinterface
there are some cars I cannot physically fit into safely


[8/14/2020 9:19 AM] themitch22
That does make sense too


[8/14/2020 9:19 AM] nullinterface
at least one generation of Miata there's simply not enough legroom.  current-gen Civic Si coupe not enough headroom (because mandatory sunroof I do not want).


[8/14/2020 9:20 AM] themitch22
but good thing the US is mostly SUVs and Trucks. I just assume if gas continues to be cheap cars are going to be obsolete


[8/14/2020 9:20 AM] nullinterface
the market will inexplicably pay $5-$10k more for a *crossover*


[8/14/2020 9:20 AM] themitch22
Eww


[8/14/2020 9:20 AM] nullinterface
which in its most basic form is a wagon with a factory lift kit


[8/14/2020 9:21 AM] nullinterface
but otherwise the same platform as a sedan just taller


[8/14/2020 9:21 AM] themitch22
I do like the kia soul i consider that a hatchback not a crossover


[8/14/2020 9:23 AM] nullinterface
to me crossovers represent a low point in automotive design - missing out on the actual advantages of the forms they borrow from.  worse handling than sedans, none of the volume or cargo/towing capacity of truck-based SUVs.


[8/14/2020 9:23 AM] themitch22
Poor people and car enthusiasts i feel are keeping cars alive


[8/14/2020 9:23 AM] skyspook
I'm with you. I either have a truck or I have  car. I'm not a fan of crossovers.


[8/14/2020 9:24 AM] skyspook
I test drove a soul when I was looking at cars. It is a hatchback, but they're making it suspiciously like a crossover.


[8/14/2020 9:25 AM] nullinterface
hatch, station wagon, or better yet minivan with a *flat floor* if you feel you need the additional volume of a crossover


[8/14/2020 9:26 AM] nullinterface
but like the SUV craze of the 90s, the perception is that greater ride height = better safety when in reality it doesn't and the demo that makes that leap tends to have low situational awareness


[8/14/2020 9:27 AM] skyspook
But I'm *above* everyone else! That means better-er!


[8/14/2020 9:27 AM] nullinterface
I swear some drivers out there don't really have *object permanence*


[8/14/2020 9:28 AM] skyspook
I'd say a good half of the population has issues with object permanence 🙂


[8/14/2020 9:28 AM] nullinterface
like my mother - bless her - who's terrified of sneezing in the car


[8/14/2020 9:28 AM] nullinterface
*because I have to shut my eyes for a moment!*


[8/14/2020 9:30 AM] judykriehn3727
As opposed to me dri...         SQUIRREL!


[8/14/2020 9:36 AM] kenpurcell
Use used to have a Ford Expedition and loved it. I didn't take good care of it and it left me. 😉 Japanese cars you can ignore everything but the oil changes and they will last forever. Had a Nissan Stanza which was the little brother to the Camry in the early 90's. Amazing little commuting car.


[8/14/2020 9:38 AM] nullinterface
suspect my next daily driver will be something EV


[8/14/2020 9:44 AM] andrew5152
ah the nissan stanza. such a confusing product. From the King of Confusing market/targeting choices in the USA...


[8/14/2020 9:44 AM] nullinterface
saw a Sentra Turbo the other day and had to ask why they bothered


[8/14/2020 9:45 AM] nullinterface
I mean, the WRX is but a tarted-up Impreza, but Subaru went well past the *phoning it in* level of effort that Nissan went to


[8/14/2020 9:47 AM] andrew5152
well, as of 2017 or so, ALL manufacturers are FINALLY embracing the notion that forced aspiration yields better economy/power tradeoffs (I "published" a term paper about this very topic in...1985ish)


[8/14/2020 9:47 AM] nullinterface
turbo-as-mechanical-hybrid has been a long time coming


[8/14/2020 9:48 AM] nullinterface
*factory* reliability seems to have been the holdup


[8/14/2020 9:48 AM] nullinterface
it's a basic engineering problem with the internal combustion engine - the gap between peak and average demand


[8/14/2020 9:49 AM] andrew5152
truth be told, manufacturers have known this longer than I. Catch is that up until the last decade, the public was uncomfortable with turbos, mostly owing to their poor rep due to earlier efforts (which were mostly hobbled by technology, e.g. synthetic oils, which are now ubiquitous, even in non-FA applications, so the public is accustomed to it)


[8/14/2020 9:49 AM] andrew5152
it was more to do with the public perception of factory reliability


[8/14/2020 9:49 AM] nullinterface
I gather that 90s *performance* turbo cars had pretty short lifespans


[8/14/2020 9:50 AM] andrew5152
recall the "diamond-star" triplets (eagle talon, plymouth laser, mitsubishi eclipse)? They were great cars, but owners didn't like running synthetic or changing oil as prescribed. Turbos don't like dino-oil, especially when not properly cooled down and/or not changed often enough.


[8/14/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
90s performance turbo reliabilty was mostly an owner problem (in my experience/opinion)


[8/14/2020 9:51 AM] nullinterface
to be fair, the markup on synthetic oil at your mechanic is astronomical


[8/14/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
yes, but it serves its purpose


[8/14/2020 9:51 AM] andrew5152
turbo swaps aren't cheap, either


[8/14/2020 9:52 AM] nullinterface
superior performance, for sure


[8/14/2020 9:52 AM] nullinterface
but ~doubling the price of that oil change when the cost difference is marginal?  nothing but gouging.


[8/14/2020 9:58 AM] andrew5152
well...you might have a point. I'll be honest; never paid much attention to how synth affects the price of having it done. And my *impression* is that the industry simply ramped up the cost of dino oil while holding synthetic fairly even over the last 20 or so years, and now, when purchased at the automart, the difference isn't so much...


[8/14/2020 10:02 AM] nullinterface
Experience of most drivers with synthetic is the price of having their vehicle serviced, and the markup for a synthetic oil change has been ~100% in my observation.  In the couple of decades I've paid attention to the price of motor oil, the spread between dino and synthetic has never been so great as to justify such a price difference at the dealership/mechanic/kwik-e-lube.

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[8/14/2020 10:03 AM] nullinterface
Heck, ~$25 in materials for me to DIY vs >$50 to have it done when the time commitment is about the same...


[8/14/2020 10:04 AM] andrew5152
has that reduced any in recent years? because, mostly, there is only synth @ those service locations, I'd imagine, given the ~100% synth spec on the new car market?


[8/14/2020 10:04 AM] nullinterface
it's possible that specific *money printer* has started to no longer work


[8/14/2020 10:31 AM] patrickpleez1
Just donated 40lbs. of litter.


[8/14/2020 10:51 AM] nullinterface
nice.  hopefully it's not all consumed managing one spill.


[8/14/2020 11:02 AM] aceat64
I'm just glad we've never had to put a sign on the stuff saying it's not for clean-up of human waste


[8/14/2020 11:07 AM] andrew5152
DAMMIT!
This will be needed within the month...


[8/14/2020 11:10 AM] yashsedai
cleans up vomit great!


[8/14/2020 11:11 AM] skyspook
Ah, no longer herding cats I see. Wrath is a good title for cleaning up human waste.


[8/14/2020 11:33 AM] patrickpleez1
Lol. Wow.


[8/15/2020 4:02 PM] andrew5152
@themitch22 what's the "permanent code" on the prius?


[8/15/2020 4:04 PM] themitch22
P0104 I think we replaced the EGR valve. It could also be a MAF sensor


[8/15/2020 4:05 PM] themitch22
It was stupid, last year I took it to chip auto repair off Frankfort and he cleared the code,  drove it 70 miles, fixed a leaking oil filter housing and got it inspected which makes me believe he didn't really fix the cause of the code.


[8/15/2020 4:06 PM] andrew5152
have you checked into the waivers/extensions? I forget exactly why-all they'll do it...


[8/15/2020 4:07 PM] andrew5152
https://www.dmv.org/tx-texas/smog-check.php

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[8/15/2020 4:08 PM] themitch22
I'm pretty sure its a simple sensor issue, its had check engine codes come and go and I've put 50k on it in over 2 years


[8/15/2020 4:15 PM] themitch22
I really want to just fix the Mini which most likely is a coil pack that went out


[8/15/2020 4:15 PM] themitch22
just need to find one locally for a decent price.


[8/15/2020 4:16 PM] andrew5152
run it past Tom Tansey?


[8/15/2020 4:16 PM] andrew5152
he'd be the guy in the know on getting those kinds of parts locally for cheap


[8/15/2020 4:17 PM] andrew5152
what year/model?


[8/15/2020 4:17 PM] andrew5152
is it running poorly, i presume?


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[8/15/2020 4:19 PM] themitch22
O2 makes sense for the age


[8/15/2020 4:21 PM] themitch22
Tom knows about this car, I doubt he'd touch it lol


[8/15/2020 4:23 PM] andrew5152
that report doesn't show a "long term" code... it shows 3  not readys


[8/15/2020 4:25 PM] themitch22
He said to drive it 80 miles i drove it 150 miles then Thursday the CEL came back on, cleared the codes again. Only got 64 miles probably why.


[8/15/2020 4:26 PM] andrew5152
He doesn't have to touch it to help you order a part


[8/15/2020 4:26 PM] andrew5152
yeah, gotta do the drive cycle


[8/15/2020 4:26 PM] andrew5152
real PITA


[8/15/2020 4:26 PM] themitch22
I need to just take off work when its "ready" and get it inspected when it can pass


[8/15/2020 4:26 PM] andrew5152
yep; if it will.


[8/15/2020 4:26 PM] andrew5152
you're allowed 1 not ready


[8/15/2020 4:27 PM] themitch22
Makes sense


[8/15/2020 4:28 PM] themitch22
The code reader at dms will tell me the not readys


[8/15/2020 4:29 PM] andrew5152
I presume it will, but I've never used it


[8/15/2020 4:30 PM] themitch22
Might be time to sell the car and recoup cost. I rather keep my Mini as long as I can. I know if that engine blows its a $5k swap


[8/15/2020 4:30 PM] andrew5152
Here's a site that discusses the traditional drive cycle; haven't found one that discusses Prius, specifically, but all the same parameters must be met (just might be harder due to hybrid-y stuff)
https://justsmogs.com/2016/05/1996-to-2002-toyota-obd-ii-catalyst-monitor-readiness-drive-patterns/

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[8/15/2020 4:31 PM] andrew5152
so what's going on with the mini (what year/model is it)?


[8/15/2020 4:32 PM] themitch22
2011 R56 no turbo. Misfire cyl 4 not firing


[8/15/2020 4:33 PM] themitch22
I had another coil pack go before so I'm guessing coil pack  6 months on new plugs


[8/15/2020 4:33 PM] themitch22
It had a gasket cover leak oil into the plugs


[8/15/2020 4:34 PM] themitch22
Got that fixed and infamous thermostats sensor housing made of plastic broke.


[8/15/2020 4:34 PM] andrew5152
lol
manufacturers continue to use plastics on those, and they keep breaking. You'd think BMW would steer clear of that crap, given their premium image, but nooooo


[8/15/2020 4:35 PM] andrew5152
so valve cover is no longer leaking oil?


[8/15/2020 4:36 PM] themitch22
Shouldn't be


[8/15/2020 4:37 PM] themitch22
Theres a cover over the coil packs i need to just take it and swap them and see if it persists

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[8/15/2020 4:37 PM] themitch22
But I want to preemptively buy a coil pack to make sure I only have to drive it to dms once


[8/15/2020 4:38 PM] andrew5152
my local autozone has a cheapy @ $40.00 (not that I can recommend them as a "solution", but if it works at all, it'll buy time to get decent parts...)


[8/15/2020 4:40 PM] themitch22
Beats a car payment


[8/15/2020 4:40 PM] themitch22
Today's economy I don't know how anyone is affording a new car

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[8/15/2020 4:41 PM] andrew5152
hmmmyeah...
I was just for kick looking @ F250s (mostly curious about the MPG on the new Godzilla) and man-oh-man! $80K comes up in a heartbeat!


[8/15/2020 4:42 PM] themitch22
Unless you're making money hauling 10,000lb trailers i don't understand how anyone would buy a truck that big


[8/15/2020 4:43 PM] andrew5152
and yet, I pass a dozen or more on my to work most days


[8/15/2020 4:43 PM] andrew5152
and raptors


[8/15/2020 4:43 PM] andrew5152
geezus! the raptors


[8/15/2020 4:43 PM] themitch22
Big or special edition trucks are just Texan status symbols


[8/15/2020 4:43 PM] andrew5152
I see fewer model S these days, though...


[8/15/2020 4:44 PM] themitch22
Every job I went on when I traveled for work I could tell who the boss was because they had a special edition truck


[8/15/2020 4:44 PM] themitch22
And the workers making $13/hr with the 00s Chevy with multiple paint colors


[8/15/2020 4:45 PM] themitch22
Id take a cybertruck any day

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[8/15/2020 4:45 PM] themitch22
But thats well beyond what I can afford in the next 10 years


[8/15/2020 4:48 PM] andrew5152
lol
gotta pass on all those, which I guess means I'm NOT the boss


[8/15/2020 4:48 PM] andrew5152
purposely bought a cheap car (that I like) because it's just going to get FUBARd anyway


[8/15/2020 4:49 PM] andrew5152
10 years of door dings in the "exec" parking lot tells me people suck. And sure enough, <1 year in, my front bumper is creased. I have no idea who did it, but I know where it happened...bastards


[8/15/2020 8:06 PM] ferricyanide7475
And 80k is why i bought an older F250.... that everyone seems to give me shit about. But hey, it should be able to pull a horse trailer, just gotta decide on gooseneck or bumper pull

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[8/15/2020 8:08 PM] nullinterface
back when *commuting to work* was a thing, 121 toll was lousy with lifestyle trucks


[8/15/2020 8:10 PM] nullinterface
The lifestyle truck:
• 1500-class
• crew cab
• short bed
• a mostly for-show towing package
• for show bed toolbox optional


[8/15/2020 9:15 PM] andrew5152
toolbox is not optional if you're actually carrying 2 kids to soccer practice AND need groceries...


[8/15/2020 9:22 PM] nullinterface
they're clearly daily drivers for people whose offroad demands seem to never exceed 'gravel road' and whose semi-routine hauling requirements halt at 'a couple bags of mulch'

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[8/15/2020 9:35 PM] andrew5152
um. I think you meant 'gravel drive'...


[8/15/2020 9:35 PM] andrew5152
or "over the curb"


[8/15/2020 10:21 PM] quattroquattro
The parking garage by my work is very old and wasn't built for f250 and larger trucks or anything with a lift kit or light racks. 
I'd say that about once a month your see some office dude in his f250 stuck in the entrance because he just realized he doesn't fit. Line of cars that can't back up into traffic behind him.
Couple times a year they would have one go in and figure it out too late.


[8/15/2020 10:22 PM] quattroquattro
To me buying a truck when you don't need or use one is as bad as buying a Corvette to convert your bald spot...


[8/15/2020 10:24 PM] andrew5152
I reckon we all piss away $ on things we don't need


[8/15/2020 10:24 PM] andrew5152
I just understand some of them better than others


[8/15/2020 10:43 PM] nullinterface
hey wait I have a sudden interest in C5 Vettes which just might manifest itself when that balding really kicks in


[8/15/2020 10:52 PM] michaelb5250
Y'all would all be jealous of our company president in his pristine top spec F350. It's perfect for the commute from Rockwall to Garland every day.

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[8/16/2020 12:10 AM] themitch22
Yep my theory of ranking order peacocking at industrial companies, the boss has the biggest most expensive truck


[8/16/2020 12:10 AM] themitch22
And the one that is probably used the least.


[8/16/2020 12:11 AM] themitch22
My company, my boss drives a used highlander with issues so I feel better about that. I think its a uniquely Texan thing


[8/16/2020 7:11 AM] andrew5152
Oh, I assure you, it's not unique to Texas. Though we might have a head start on the truck fetish, it's spread far and wide.
I was amused by there arborist company whose services we've retained one or twice. Very competent, very quick, NOT cheap. They arrived in 2 trucks, one of which was an older International dump bed with a chipper canopy, in which they deposited chips from the chipper it towed, and which they used to bring in 10 yards of topsoil. 3 workers in its traditional single cab.  Another old F150 single cab used strictly for crew transport of 3 workers and their microwave for luncheon prep, water cooler, etc. presumably personally owned.Then the big boss shows up. 1-year old F350 Powerstroke. 4x4. A lift kit that was 24 inches, I think, but the chrome 24" rims made it hard to tell. Chromed, adjustable drop hitch. "What a qurb queen!", I thought. I was wrong. He dragged in a robotic stump grinder on that hitch, dropped it. Adjusted it. Hooked up the chipper to go in for repairs. Bright back a different one. Adjusted the hitch. Off went the grinder. In came a skid steer... I'm not saying none of that was for show, but he certainly did put the towing capability to good use, and in that business, probably uses the 4x4 once or twice a year...


[8/16/2020 11:48 AM] nullinterface
> Y'all would all be jealous of our company president in his pristine top spec F350. It's perfect for the commute from Rockwall to Garland every day.
@michaelb jealous?  heck, he's got to carry the note on that behemoth and fuel it.


[8/20/2020 9:45 AM] themitch22
Cheapest Mini Cooper fix, pop out a coil pack, stick a new one in for $70.


[8/20/2020 9:46 AM] themitch22
Anyone ever use JB weld as a gasket?


[8/20/2020 9:49 AM] skyspook
I don't even know how to answer that...


[8/20/2020 10:02 AM] hon1nbo
Yes. They're called permanent gaskets and make sure you don't screw up even sealing because you don't get a second shot


[8/27/2020 1:11 PM] themitch22
Anyone willing to help Patrick? His alternator is dead, blew up his new battery. He is stuck in Grand Prairie.


[8/27/2020 5:16 PM] canibalcrab
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/garland-1984-chevy-suburban-74l-v8/7182509280.html posted the suburban

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[8/27/2020 5:43 PM] kenpurcell
Whoa, what a beastie!


[8/28/2020 11:16 AM] nullinterface
that would please my neighbors beyond belief parked on my street 😂


[8/28/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152
lol


[8/28/2020 11:18 AM] andrew5152
my neighbor has a 1972 international 3/4 ton with a service bed, and dual stacked exhausts, just sitting.


[8/28/2020 11:19 AM] andrew5152
he got ticketed for being out of registration (can't have junk vehicles on public streets), so he got classic plates, so no more registration/inspection necessary


[8/28/2020 11:19 AM] andrew5152
I can't figure out how he's keeping the tires inflated


[8/28/2020 11:20 AM] andrew5152
or why
the
FUCK
he wants to keep that thing just sitting in the road...


[8/28/2020 11:20 AM] andrew5152
complete with Confederate flag stickers on the window


[8/28/2020 11:20 AM] andrew5152
🤷‍♂️


[8/28/2020 11:36 AM] nullinterface
there are some 5 distinct subdivisions in the ½ mile² superblock I live in and my *tier* has the most variety with some places seemingly aspiring to the upper tiers of yuppie-dom and others clearly exhibiting a blue collar vibe.  as such there's a huge variety of vehicles to be seen, thus a 1984 Suburban wouldn't be unheard of.


[8/28/2020 11:37 AM] nullinterface
my favorite is the house with the early 80s Dodge truck sporting a rhino liner like finish parked adjacent to the immaculate Saturn Sky - presumably the same household


[8/28/2020 11:39 AM] nullinterface
there's another place with a 1980s - or even 1970s - Toyota pickup that looks to be a worker


[8/28/2020 11:40 AM] nullinterface
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[8/28/2020 11:40 AM] andrew5152
I figured that was the beastie that was to donate its 454 to the Cruel Bus... lessee.. 7.4liters x 61.024 = ~451CID... hm...


[8/28/2020 11:41 AM] nullinterface
clearly the cruel bus needs a turbo LS swap

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[8/28/2020 11:44 AM] andrew5152
the widest driver-to-car dichotomy I've seen personally was a customer back when (1998ish). He was a manager for Dillard's. Rotund fella. Showed up every time in a 3-piece suit, tie, whole 9 yards.
His wife, who was a professor, drove a very nice Volvo.
HIS daily was a formerly red, now mostly rust colored 1979 Toyota "1-ton".
With a built-on plumber's roof rack. 
They were an interesting pair; the man and his wife; the man and his car; the cars...


[8/28/2020 11:48 AM] andrew5152
gotta say... those 3/4 ton suburbans were the thing in the not to distant past... might not be asking enough if you can find  the right square-body enthusiast...


[8/28/2020 11:55 AM] nullinterface
former professor of mine liked to recount his adventures at his first real job out of college working as a plant engineer at a refinery that also turned out some interesting value-added plastic products.  bought an old international harvester truck whose engine simply could not be identified initially.  engine compartment was almost spacious enough to stand in and was clearly designed to accept nearly any crate engine capable of moving the behemoth.  said truck was less reliable transportation, more self-ambulatory project (something @michaelb can likely relate to).  

due to the initially unknown engine, its oil leak problems could not be resolved due to the problem of sourcing replacement seals.  the expedient fix was to rig a catch tray underneath the primary leak point, however it steadily degraded to the point that the oil pan would be nearly empty at the halfway point of his commute, at which point he'd pull over at a convenient tree by the side of the road and empty the catch tray into the block and continue on.

professor not only thought nothing about this problem but had almost committed to automating the process with a pump on the catch tray when his boss pressed him into taking a visiting big-wig to the airport.  the journey went on great with plenty of career-boosting banter *until the halfway point* when he without explanation pulled over in the usual spot, refilled the oil reservoir as usual with practiced ease, then wondered about the awkward nearly icy silence the rest of the trip.  Not long after said big-wig had returned home his boss summoned him to his office and all but commanded him to properly fix or replace said truck at which point he found some the right parts store with the right longbeard that was able to identify the engine based on some obscure *casting mark* and new seals were installed...


[8/28/2020 11:58 AM] michaelb5250
Hey I have managed to get useful work out of that truck once. Hauled wood back from DMS


[8/28/2020 12:11 PM] andrew5152
my grandfather used to say International buyers just went to Ford, Chevy, and Dodge, bought whatever parts they had leftover, and stuck them in...


[8/28/2020 12:11 PM] andrew5152
my experience corroborates his experience


[8/28/2020 1:48 PM] canibalcrab
The power upgrade we would get from the engine+transmission swap wasn't worth the effort after we replaced the carb


[8/28/2020 1:49 PM] canibalcrab
After the carb was replaced it was way better

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[8/29/2020 7:51 AM] judykriehn3727
> gotta say... those 3/4 ton suburbans were the thing in the not to distant past... might not be asking enough if you can find  the right square-body enthusiast...
@A. Spencer(jast)  I remember an issue of Texas Monthly, declaring the Suburban the “National Car of Texas.”


[8/29/2020 8:12 AM] andrew5152
lol
when I was a youngster, I had a friend whose family had one. 6.2L diesel. Now, the curb weight on a R2500 Suburban Diesel of that era clocked in at about 5100 lbs, plus 4 youngsters at, let's call it 150lbs each puts our Gross Vehicle weight somewhere in 5500 lbs range. With about 130 raging  cavallini on-tap at the very best of times, it was "Dog-ass slow", as we said in those days. But I still have very vivid memories of one trek from my casa to his. I was dressed in Sunday best, which, at the time consisted of a light blue sweater (which is really weird, because I practically NEVER wore sweaters) and, for reasons I cannot recall, toting along a cast iron 3quarter of chili. I was holding that on my lap, as one does when transporting spillie stuff, and his eldest brother, who was driving at the time, wanted to see if he could get it air-born coming off the overpass for I-30 for the road to their house, which was another dip down of about 3 feet from the frontage road. Surprisingly, we made the turn off the north frontage onto the overpass without incident, and despite holding that v8 monster at full throttle, did NOT catch air on the upside of the bridge, nor immediately on the down. Because we could see several miles in both directions, that silly stop sign was meaningless, and through the intersection, and down the dip we rode at breakneck speed! Air was achieved! It was, truly, an exhilarating experience. Like most stupid things you live through. Upon arrival, no mention was made to his parents about the achievement. I handed the pot of chili to his mom, who admonished my carelessness for getting a nice, even line of chili juice aaaaall the way across my belly from where that lid, too, went airborn briefly.... Ah physics. How you mock me. I still think we got the better of you that day, though.

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[8/29/2020 8:53 PM] judykriehn3727
My boss and his wife bought a blue suburban with charcoal grey trim in the late 1980's. As the family grew to three kids, it was a vast improvement over "The Love Machine" - the red Ford van Steve got for high school graduation. While not the result of gaining "air", one of their favorite family stories was one of their forays to their place in Centerville for the weekend. To save time, Cheryl had made pimento cheese sandwiches for everybody. They leaped into the 'burb as soon as everybody got home from school and off they went. Sandwiches distributed. But Cheryl's went awol. Many accusations of sandwich burglars. Then she leaned over to get something, exposing the backside of her shorts. Decorated with a smushed pimento cheese sandwich.

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[8/29/2020 8:53 PM] judykriehn3727
Mystery solved.


[8/29/2020 9:00 PM] andrew5152
True test of cheap-assedness... was it consumed all the same? 🥪


[8/30/2020 4:03 PM] judykriehn3727
Steve never shared that detail. Just used it as a title for a motivational speech: "Sometimes Life is Like a Pimento Cheese Sandwich Stuck to Your Butt."

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[8/31/2020 3:34 PM] patrickpleez1
I’ve been fairly afk and mia I am sorry.


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[8/31/2020 5:37 PM] themitch22
That guy was ok, watch the video though its scary


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[9/6/2020 12:51 PM] quattroquattro
Anyone have any experience with convertible tops? The top on my fiat has some places where it's coming unglued. The only video on fixing it is some guy who filmed the whole thing in portrait mode and didn't use a script...


[9/6/2020 12:53 PM] quattroquattro
I have a feeling I just need to relax the roof a little put in some new glue and close the top, but I want to be sure because it's 6k for a new top if the canvas or track gets damaged...


[9/6/2020 1:55 PM] andrew5152
I do NOT, but I am curious what you do, and how well it works...
(sounds like a job for Barge, right? no idea, though...)


[9/6/2020 2:37 PM] quattroquattro
Barge or goop automotive is what I've read so far


[9/9/2020 12:02 PM] nullinterface
this isn't some temperate climate - tear that nonsense out and replace it with a hardtop


[9/9/2020 12:03 PM] andrew5152
lol


[9/9/2020 2:44 PM] nullinterface
I'm mostly just being a curmudgeon.  But outside of SoCal there are so few places where the climate is consistently pleasant enough that a convertible makes sense - especially the more common ragtop variety.


[9/9/2020 4:39 PM] hon1nbo
this just came in the information email inbox: If there are any folks who would like to repair a transmission (needing a new CVT belt), they can have it for free. It would be a good project to learn the internals of a transmission. It will need to be picked up from my location in Allen (Bethany & US 75 Area)
2008 Honda Civic


[9/9/2020 4:40 PM] hon1nbo
sounds simple enough, but at the same time I'm wondering why it's free if it's just needing a new belt. But I'm not a transmission guy


[9/9/2020 4:40 PM] hon1nbo
so I'm assuming they're trying to dump something, but who knows


[9/9/2020 4:50 PM] canibalcrab
Cvt transmissions will "stretch out" the belt and kill it if they are run without oil


[9/9/2020 4:51 PM] canibalcrab
It just can't be picked up and stored at the space


[9/9/2020 4:54 PM] hon1nbo
kinda why I'm interested in understanding what kind of undertaking that project would be based on description, if it's reasonable to have all parts in advance and get done. But also why if it's a known issue that sounds easier to replace it's a freebie. Just a ton of labor not worth the value of the car since the transmission casing has to be cracked open, or likely something else?


[9/9/2020 4:55 PM] skyspook
I bet the cost of a belt and kit is about as much as a rebuilt one already


[9/9/2020 4:55 PM] hon1nbo
I have no intention of it, don't want to even consider if a vehicle isn't already moving, but I'm curious since this isn't something that usually pops into that inbox


[9/9/2020 4:55 PM] hon1nbo
> I bet the cost of a belt and kit is about as much as a rebuilt one already
@Skyspook now that is something I wasn't expecting to hear


[9/9/2020 4:55 PM] canibalcrab
I might have someone interested in picking it up


[9/9/2020 4:56 PM] canibalcrab
I know we have had several cvt honda transmissions done at the space before


[9/9/2020 4:58 PM] canibalcrab
Man it looks like replacements are like 200-400


[9/9/2020 4:58 PM] skyspook
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium  - I take that back. I've seen it happen with some transmissions. Rebuild kit is about $200.


[9/9/2020 4:59 PM] skyspook
Cheaper than the T5 kit we got for the Thunderbird. And that one wasn't even a race spec kit


[9/9/2020 4:59 PM] skyspook
And before we added the 5th gear swap


[9/9/2020 5:00 PM] canibalcrab
That's a cool offer, especially if it's a reasonably easy fix. Auto work has been unreasonably gratifying lately


[9/9/2020 6:04 PM] michaelb5250
Its tempting. I have a friend who can never find reliable cars, and a cheap honda is not common, especially if it's fixable in one DMS work day.


[9/9/2020 6:06 PM] hon1nbo
potentially. The security snob in me has scam alert possibly tingling. I mean I also have known people to get wonderous finds like this, but it's always been the edge case. Who knows. Whoever actually follows up I'm assuming is comfortable enough doing a smell test.


[9/9/2020 6:06 PM] hon1nbo
I know I'm not just because the powertrain is not my forte


[9/9/2020 6:06 PM] michaelb5250
Did they offer to let someone go by and take a look before committing? It's really only tempting if it's determined that the belt is the only issue.


[9/9/2020 6:06 PM] hon1nbo
they provided a phone number to contact them


[9/9/2020 6:06 PM] hon1nbo
otherwise that statement was the entirety of the email


[9/9/2020 6:07 PM] michaelb5250
Huh. Have to talk to the friend and see how much work the transmission is to replace.


[9/9/2020 8:47 PM] andrew5152
I read it's just the tranny that's up on offer...


[9/9/2020 8:47 PM] andrew5152
if it's the whole car (implied), yeah, that's a scam


[9/9/2020 9:28 PM] hon1nbo
subject line as it came in is "Free 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid - needs new belt"


[9/9/2020 9:28 PM] hon1nbo
I honestly am not interested enough to follow up


[9/9/2020 9:28 PM] hon1nbo
they could have terrible amgbiguity


[9/9/2020 9:28 PM] hon1nbo
they could be looking for a tax write off


[9/9/2020 9:28 PM] hon1nbo
who knows


[9/9/2020 9:38 PM] judykriehn3727
If it were a real thing - and said CVT came with a car around it, LeMons car team could have some fun. But then - hybrid car, maybe not.


[9/9/2020 9:47 PM] andrew5152
meh. all that hybrid stuff removes easy enough. Just don't touch the fat wires.


[9/9/2020 9:47 PM] skyspook
Nah, touch'em. Just make sure you're filming when you do.


[9/9/2020 9:47 PM] skyspook
Instant youtube star


[9/9/2020 9:47 PM] andrew5152
lol


[9/9/2020 9:48 PM] andrew5152
ya might want to be careful of a Plan for Success where Step 1 is " name a beneficiary"


[9/14/2020 9:31 PM] doug.emes
So today I had an automotive first for me


[9/14/2020 9:31 PM] doug.emes
I had a battery replaced free during the 3 year period!


[9/14/2020 9:36 PM] aceat64
I refuse to believe that can happen


[9/14/2020 10:05 PM] envyofthenorth
:doubt:


[9/14/2020 10:39 PM] nullinterface
I've had that happen.  sort of.  in a way.  some nominal prorating was involved but it was free-ish.
OK so maybe not.


[9/14/2020 11:42 PM] michaelb5250
Interstate routinely replaces my batteries around the 4 year mark on their 5 year warranty. It's prorated but usually around half price.


[9/15/2020 10:52 AM] ferricyanide7475
Yeah i have only gotten prorated, nothing completely free


[9/15/2020 1:31 PM] doug.emes
And tire patched free as well.


[9/15/2020 1:47 PM] aceat64
What magic are you using


[9/15/2020 2:13 PM] doug.emes
Dude it's been driving 30+ years I was due :)


[9/18/2020 2:30 AM] engpin1964
I’d assume we have a compression tester at the space.  Anyone know where it might be


[9/18/2020 8:30 AM] michaelb5250
Heh, we might. Probably an old one in the air chuck drawer or below electrical. There might be one in a plastic case in the right hand cabinet as well.


[9/18/2020 8:31 AM] michaelb5250
For future reference, I guess


[9/18/2020 1:49 PM] engpin1964
Ok


[9/19/2020 2:02 PM] michaelb5250
My memory isn't great.... Anyone know why I'd have a battery on a table in automotive?

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[9/19/2020 2:05 PM] skyspook
Maybe it just has the same name as you?


[9/19/2020 2:09 PM] michaelb5250
I asked it, you're right, mystery solved!


[9/19/2020 2:33 PM] michaelb5250
Actual answer: Allen left it.


[9/19/2020 3:00 PM] canibalcrab
Ah a gift from the auto elves


[9/19/2020 3:12 PM] michaelb5250
Someone else left an axle... I'm hoping that disappears in a few days


[9/19/2020 3:31 PM] engpin1964
I was going to say it was for the electroshock therapy for people who leave parts and oil behind


[9/19/2020 5:07 PM] hon1nbo
I get to replace my tie rod ends today.... Hooray


[9/19/2020 5:39 PM] hon1nbo
the maintenance minder is also complaining about transmission fluid... it is at about 90k, probably should though I feel like I may be pressed for time already. assuming nothing goes wrong how long should a tie rod job take for one wheel?


[9/19/2020 6:22 PM] michaelb5250
20 minutes? It's pretty easy in my car at least.


[9/19/2020 6:26 PM] hon1nbo
Tom had recommended I go get the o'rielly's tool for the inner tie rod. Said the DMS one was shit


[9/19/2020 6:26 PM] hon1nbo
I'm still waiting on the parts pickup notice at this point


[9/19/2020 6:48 PM] michaelb5250
He's probably not wrong.


[9/19/2020 11:14 PM] hon1nbo
So I had a realization, shop notes put "left side" rather than passenger or driver


[9/19/2020 11:14 PM] hon1nbo
Given that's typically open to interpretation what is the best way to see which joint is bad?


[9/19/2020 11:15 PM] hon1nbo
Because my rack doesn't lock I'm having a harder time finding the play described


[9/19/2020 11:19 PM] hon1nbo
Alright think I found it. Got the steering locked via the immobiliser and there's wiggle on the passenger side


[9/19/2020 11:19 PM] hon1nbo
(left when facing the vehicle from in front of it I guess)


[9/19/2020 11:38 PM] hon1nbo
And I'm pretty positive I was wrong there. It's nice and snug.
Then it dawned on me we call it "left hand drive" for a reason
I think I need a caffeine break


[9/20/2020 12:30 AM] andrew5152
caffeine = 👍 
the standard is "always from the driver's perspective" in the auto industry.


[9/20/2020 12:40 AM] hon1nbo
Well right now I'm in a panic


[9/20/2020 12:40 AM] hon1nbo
O'Reilly's was closed by time I had parts


[9/20/2020 12:41 AM] hon1nbo
I found our tool is missing


[9/20/2020 12:41 AM] hon1nbo
And of course there happens to be another members' steering parts all over auto with no tool in sight for it


[9/20/2020 1:33 AM] hon1nbo
Finally got it using kinetic repairs


[9/20/2020 3:44 AM] hon1nbo
The original was fused on (likely from a previous wheel well fire) and I had to make a slit to get it off.
Turns out the new boot I was sold is the wrong one (yet is listed as explicitly compatible... Bullshit, way too small even if cutting to an expanded billow). So since that slit was only like 1/2"-3/4" long, and I don't mind adding more grease until I can fix it in a few weeks, a slathered it in some supply happy fun time goop known as epoxy
Ain't proud of it but will hold


[9/26/2020 4:47 PM] michaelb5250
Since it's last minute... I've been stuffed up today so I'll be hosting tomorrows meeting online. Would love to have someone at DMS to look through tools that need to be replaced, but we can get stuff done without.


[9/30/2020 7:41 PM] engpin1964
I found the next woodshop project


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[9/30/2020 7:42 PM] skyspook
Wonder how heavy that is


[9/30/2020 7:46 PM] engpin1964
Right


[10/2/2020 9:31 AM] michaelb5250
@Skyspook gonna try and get that newport started tonight?


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[10/2/2020 9:55 AM] skyspook
Was gonna try, wanna help?


[10/2/2020 10:27 AM] michaelb5250
Sure, if you still need help this evening let me know.


[10/2/2020 2:31 PM] skyspook
And btw, if anybody wants the damn thing let me know. It's just been sitting in a parking spot for months and I have no need of it.


[10/2/2020 2:37 PM] hon1nbo
I still did


[10/2/2020 2:38 PM] hon1nbo
but the timing is weird now


[10/2/2020 2:38 PM] skyspook
That's fair. I at least need to get it running and moved around


[10/2/2020 2:38 PM] skyspook
But you can have first dibs 🙂


[10/2/2020 2:38 PM] hon1nbo
what is required to get the thing running and pass inspection


[10/2/2020 2:39 PM] skyspook
Tires are a bit flat right now. For a full inspection, the exhaust needs to be patched. If you just want historical, it doesn't need an inspection (but can't be driven a lot)


[10/2/2020 2:43 PM] skyspook
Luckily I don't think there are any emissions tests for a '64


[10/2/2020 2:44 PM] michaelb5250
gotta have the factory components, but no emissions.


[10/2/2020 2:45 PM] skyspook
It's a '64. You're lucky they decided to put an exhaust on it.

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[10/2/2020 2:45 PM] michaelb5250
I think it's pretty much EGR if it came with it. And if they're picky enough to look.


[10/2/2020 2:46 PM] skyspook
Oh, and none of the gauges work. Cause '64 electronics.


[10/2/2020 2:46 PM] skyspook
I think you *might* get engine temp


[10/2/2020 2:46 PM] skyspook
Brake lights work! And turn signals! That's luxury.


[10/2/2020 2:46 PM] michaelb5250
I think i've got one working gauge in the truck right now... it's the speedometer.


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] skyspook
No speedo. It fell off


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250
does it start reliably?


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] skyspook
If it's been running, yes


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250
and ehh there are apps for that


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] skyspook
It's been sitting for 6 months


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] michaelb5250
hmm... it'll probably run on starter fluid.


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] skyspook
I think I can get the tires inflated and get it started. Just need to move it down a few floors cause they're restriping my garage


[10/2/2020 2:47 PM] skyspook
Oh, it loves starter fluid


[10/2/2020 2:48 PM] skyspook
And leaded gas


[10/2/2020 2:48 PM] michaelb5250
oh, does it have leaded in it?


[10/2/2020 2:48 PM] skyspook
hah, no


[10/2/2020 2:48 PM] skyspook
But doesn't like <93


[10/2/2020 2:48 PM] michaelb5250
ok lol, there seems to be debate on that


[10/2/2020 2:48 PM] skyspook
Maybe I should drive it to the airport and get 100LL


[10/2/2020 2:49 PM] michaelb5250
previous owner ran lead substitute in my truck, but the theory is that after x0,000 miles it's embedded in the critical areas and you can run unleaded fine.


[10/2/2020 2:49 PM] michaelb5250
I'm currently testing that theory...


[10/2/2020 2:49 PM] skyspook
lol


[10/2/2020 2:50 PM] michaelb5250
sounds like it should be fine. My truck had sat for a year and had a nasty rusted tank and not-working fuel pump. thus the gas can strapped to the front of it for a while.


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] skyspook
I think so. I'm getting dinner around, but I'll be headed up there around 5 to find out


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] hon1nbo
so my complex requires the vehicle have tags in the end


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] skyspook
It has ohio tags 🙂


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] hon1nbo
they'll let me have a second car without issue from previous queires when we last talked


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] skyspook
Gotta love me that permanent historical tag


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] hon1nbo
nothing expired


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] hon1nbo
that's what I'm getting at I guess


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] hon1nbo
is that an alternative for a registration?


[10/2/2020 2:52 PM] hon1nbo
I don't know about historical


[10/2/2020 2:53 PM] skyspook
In ohio you basically pay once and get a permanent historical tag for anything >25 years old.


[10/2/2020 2:53 PM] michaelb5250
Similar in texas I believe, antique vehicle


[10/2/2020 2:53 PM] skyspook
It's kinda like the historical here, just different


[10/2/2020 2:53 PM] skyspook
yep


[10/2/2020 2:53 PM] michaelb5250
not that I can speel that word...


[10/2/2020 2:53 PM] skyspook
speeling is for suckers


[10/2/2020 3:00 PM] hon1nbo
looked it up. In Texas antique has no inspections, $10 registration good for 5 years, but limited use. "Classic" registration is $40, has an inspection (though it may be "more limited" I'm not seeing clear answers on the DMV) but does not have the driving restrictions


[10/2/2020 3:00 PM] hon1nbo
https://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/vi/uniqueVeh.htm

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TxDPS - Unique Vehicles
Vehicles registered as  Antiques are exempt from annual inspection.


[10/2/2020 3:07 PM] michaelb5250
I believe the only thing classic gets you is the ability to use a same-model-year plate on the vehicle. You could go to a swap meet and get some 1964 plates for it.


[10/2/2020 3:08 PM] michaelb5250
In general, cars over 25 years old are only required to pass a safety inspection, which is what it sounds like


[10/2/2020 3:09 PM] hon1nbo
that's actually yet another registration, the YOM one


[10/2/2020 3:09 PM] hon1nbo
true


[10/2/2020 3:09 PM] hon1nbo
I keep forgetting the 25 thing actually


[10/2/2020 3:09 PM] hon1nbo
so cheaper reg I guess


[10/2/2020 3:10 PM] hon1nbo
and classic plates


[10/2/2020 3:30 PM] skyspook
A mid-90's neon is now a classic car 😉


[10/2/2020 3:31 PM] michaelb5250
The lemons car is as well 🤔


[10/2/2020 3:33 PM] skyspook
The Cleveland team had historical plates on our thunderbird.


[10/2/2020 3:35 PM] hon1nbo
> The lemons car is as well 🤔
@michaelb I mean it *could* pass a safety only inspection if a few things are done


[10/2/2020 3:41 PM] michaelb5250
I have this not very well thought out dream of getting the car inspected, racing at MSR on the weekend and taking it on the rally the following week.


[10/2/2020 3:48 PM] skyspook
Could do a Class C with the newport. It's already been on the rally 🙂


[10/2/2020 4:26 PM] hon1nbo
Justin if you get the car moving let me know; since it's got tags and a never-expiring sticker I don't have to worry about bringing it here though I do have to let them know it's coming


[10/2/2020 4:26 PM] skyspook
I'll get back to you in a few hours.


[10/2/2020 5:53 PM] skyspook
It starts and moves. Had a flat tire, but I had a wrong-sized spare, so it'll move at least. Need brake fluid -- rear cylinder must have a leak.


[10/2/2020 5:55 PM] skyspook
Aww, discord won't let me post a video of it running with cobwebs


[10/2/2020 5:56 PM] hon1nbo
will the tyre take air at least?


[10/2/2020 5:57 PM] hon1nbo
at least long enough to plug it


[10/2/2020 5:57 PM] skyspook
The bad one? No, it has a sidewall tear


[10/2/2020 5:57 PM] hon1nbo
oof


[10/2/2020 5:57 PM] skyspook
But the wrong-sized spare isn't too bad


[10/2/2020 5:57 PM] skyspook
I'm looking at what another tire would cost


[10/2/2020 6:02 PM] michaelb5250
Standard size? A used one would be like $25 mounted at a few places by the space.


[10/2/2020 6:02 PM] skyspook
205/75R14


[10/2/2020 6:03 PM] skyspook
And it might not be the wrong size, think it was an R15, which throws the numbers out of whack


[10/2/2020 6:07 PM] michaelb5250
I mean it's not implausible. There's a shop down there that Allen used to use for his worthless cars. They charge double to balance it so sometimes it's cheaper to go somewhere that does rotations and have them rotate/balance them


[10/2/2020 6:07 PM] skyspook
lol


[10/2/2020 6:12 PM] skyspook
Ah! It's the weird number, it has a special spare tire number


[10/2/2020 6:12 PM] skyspook
It's the right size


[10/2/2020 6:13 PM] skyspook
I'll grab some brake fluid tomorrow and get the brakes bled out. After that, it'll be ready to roll


[10/2/2020 6:15 PM] skyspook
And dumb enough, I determined I have a roadside patch kit but no tire inflator... I'll have to fix that 🙂


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[10/2/2020 7:59 PM] skyspook
This picture makes me angry and I don't know why


[10/2/2020 8:24 PM] canibalcrab
Probably because it still qualifies as a honda

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[10/2/2020 8:41 PM] andrew5152
what's not to love about a stanced 'duh with glowkit?


[10/2/2020 8:41 PM] skyspook
The only thing I've liked about stancing is laughing when they go street racing and break a knuckle off.

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[10/2/2020 8:42 PM] aceat64
think of the cornering that lawmower can pull though


[10/2/2020 8:43 PM] andrew5152
"darty" comes to mind...


[10/2/2020 11:19 PM] michaelb5250
Automotive tools have been ordered! They'll need to be painted green before being placed out there.

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[10/2/2020 11:20 PM] michaelb5250
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium how can I get that key to the toolbox?


[10/2/2020 11:32 PM] canibalcrab
you must fight 1000 trolls


[10/2/2020 11:37 PM] hon1nbo
which one?


[10/3/2020 1:28 AM] michaelb5250
Just the one to the left hand locker that's kept locked


[10/3/2020 2:03 AM] hon1nbo
Keys are in the server room. Justin, freddy or one of them should be able to grab them for you. I had a copy set made but they are AWOL so we're at one key for each cabinet.


[10/3/2020 2:37 AM] yashsedai
How about I get some copies made tomorrow and that way we aren't out of luck


[10/3/2020 5:42 PM] skyspook
Newport drives, moves and mostly stops (squishy brakes, drum bleeders don't want to move with what I have).

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[10/7/2020 7:02 PM] hon1nbo
Did we get more 3/8" rachets?


[10/7/2020 9:49 PM] michaelb5250
Yup. Chuck should be picking those up from harbor freight this week.


[10/9/2020 10:48 PM] canibalcrab
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1024935551279553

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1983 Chevrolet G30 van & S10 truck
BUY THE TRUCK,and get HAULER FOR FREE. Truck has too many new parts to list them all . Trans just overhauled   all ujoints new ,camshaft timing chain, valve springs , oil ppump .tires, fuel cell,fuel...


[10/9/2020 10:48 PM] canibalcrab
3k for both


[10/9/2020 11:09 PM] michaelb5250
Tekton order for tools is here. I'm waiting on some green heat shrink to make the handles green. If anyone wants to try some powder coating, it would be cool to try some sockets out and see if it works on them. No idea what will happen on the chrome/shiny finish.


[10/10/2020 1:00 AM] hon1nbo
@michaelb just line them up on a tray and blast a stripe on them in the vapor hone before spraying for it to stick best


[10/10/2020 1:00 AM] hon1nbo
will stil stick to chrome if clean but not be as durable long term


[10/12/2020 1:16 PM] nullinterface
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1024935551279553
@pearce that headliner


[10/12/2020 1:21 PM] canibalcrab
One of the perks of ownership is removing the garbage customizations from the last guy


[10/12/2020 1:24 PM] michaelb5250
Just make sure you replace them with your own garbage customizations. Gotta keep the cycle going


[10/12/2020 1:25 PM] canibalcrab
Right


[10/12/2020 1:26 PM] canibalcrab
Like a headliner full of meme stickers or something only relevant to a cliche right now


[10/13/2020 12:09 AM] ferricyanide7475
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1986 Chevrolet S-10 · Short Bed
for parts

1986 chevy short bed pick up frame for sale. body is still good,great for  rebuild project. $2,500 cash.


[10/13/2020 12:09 AM] ferricyanide7475
Got a chuckle out of this suggestion from the post of the other car


[10/13/2020 12:10 AM] canibalcrab
"ran when parked"

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[10/13/2020 1:48 PM] engpin1964
“Never been smoked in”


[10/13/2020 2:54 PM] andrew5152
"a/c just needs a charge"


[10/13/2020 2:56 PM] judykriehn3727
No dog hair on seats


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[10/22/2020 8:55 PM] slinkygn
Question: I know there was a time when occasionally if it was cooler outside than the AC would be set to (usually at night, obvs) the garage door would be left open in the bay while somebody was working.  Never did figure out if that was just something somebody was doing despite it being verboten, or if that was looked at as OK.


[10/22/2020 8:57 PM] canibalcrab
people would do it, but they wouldnt turn off the units for the area


[10/22/2020 8:57 PM] slinkygn
I may be having to visit my grandmother soon, and need to check my car out before the long drive, so for exposure reasons it'd be great if I could leave that door at least partially open some cool evening soon, so there'd be outside air circulation inside the warehouse - which is why I ask.


[10/22/2020 8:58 PM] canibalcrab
so its a no no


[10/22/2020 8:58 PM] slinkygn
Gotcha.  So if one does turn them off...


[10/22/2020 8:58 PM] slinkygn
oh, never mind :/


[10/22/2020 8:58 PM] slinkygn
bummer


[10/23/2020 8:05 AM] nullinterface
air conditioning Carrollton gets expensive and some nerds keep insisting that some statute called *the laws of thermodynamics* means 'you can only increase local heat energy' or some nonsense


[10/23/2020 8:41 AM] pwnieluver
Can someone help me with a 2006 Honda Odyssey
I only need to put on the serpentine belt, but the tensioner on this model are diffrent from other models


[10/23/2020 8:44 AM] nullinterface
no experience with the '06 Odyssey.  Assume you've hit up the YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=2006+honda+odyssey+serpentine+belt+replacement


[10/23/2020 8:46 AM] pwnieluver
@ESmith Yep
And this model has something like a honda accord tensioner where the nut is in the center rather than welded to the sides

and my grandpa who helped me take it off forgot where he put the wrench to release the tension


[10/23/2020 9:04 AM] kenpurcell
Leaving the door open and AC units off wacks out the humidity in the building and it takes days to get it back down. At least that was what the air monitors used to indicate. Not sure if any of those units are still working.


[10/23/2020 9:05 AM] andrew5152
I think autozone racing still does the free tool rental:
https://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools/loaner-serpentine-belt-tool/oemtools-serpentine-belt-tool-kit-9-piece/298547_0_0
$30 you get back if you return it on time in good condition...


[10/23/2020 9:05 AM] nullinterface
those vinyl air curtains were kinda handy for opening the doors, but at the same time those too just got tied back much of the time


[10/23/2020 9:13 AM] kenpurcell
They were nice but so heavy.


[10/23/2020 11:20 PM] nullinterface
https://fb.watch/1jphgx0--h/

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[10/23/2020 11:22 PM] nullinterface
also helps drain that puddle of rainwater that accumulates ever since that 3rd DUI wreck that forever knackered the door:frame alignment - no more mosquito breeding grounds!


[10/24/2020 2:05 AM] slinkygn
> air conditioning Carrollton gets expensive and some nerds keep insisting that some statute called *the laws of thermodynamics* means 'you can only increase local heat energy' or some nonsense
@ESmith considering the temperature the past couple of evenings (and the next few as well), I don't think air conditioning would be the greatest concern 🙂 now, humidity, that's a harder one to avoid


[10/24/2020 8:09 PM] nullinterface
saw a VW GTI with a plaid license plate frame today.  think that maybe 3/100 will get it.


[10/31/2020 9:02 AM] quattroquattro
Anyone ever change the power steering pump on a Nissan Altima?


[10/31/2020 9:22 AM] andrew5152
it's been a while, but yes


[10/31/2020 2:36 PM] quattroquattro
How hard of a job is it?


[10/31/2020 3:48 PM] andrew5152
Not that bad


[10/31/2020 3:49 PM] andrew5152
it's on the back of the block, so kind of tight, but all in all, given that it's a 4-banger, not so bad. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o42DllMqxrk

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Nissan Altima Power Steering Pump Replace
In addition to being a how to replace a part video, this is also a how not to diagnose a noise problem video as well, because I am assuming the noise is coming from the power steering pump because it sounds sooooo much like that noise, however I realize now I should have check...
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[10/31/2020 3:49 PM] andrew5152
don't even have to pull any axles or motor mounts


[10/31/2020 8:05 PM] skyspook
Doesn't look the worst from that. Can't help the next few days (not currently mobile), but if it's sometime next week let me know if you need/want help.


[11/1/2020 9:42 PM] quattroquattro
Turns out it was just a leak and was an easy flush and fix

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[11/13/2020 5:20 PM] michaelb5250
Remember folks, always double check that your lug nuts are torqued.

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[11/13/2020 5:21 PM] skyspook
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[11/13/2020 5:23 PM] canibalcrab
I see you took my invention that uses extra aluminum shavings from metal shop and packed them into the rotors


[11/13/2020 5:42 PM] michaelb5250
Remember folks, always double check that your lug nuts are torqued.

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[11/16/2020 6:23 PM] quattroquattro
Anyone know who's white Chevy is parked next to our dumpster?


[11/16/2020 11:13 PM] judykriehn3727
Which dumpster? 102 or 104? Or do we not have two anymore?


[11/28/2020 7:33 PM] engpin1964
So there is no car litter so@I cleaned up@best I could


[11/28/2020 7:38 PM] yashsedai
you didnt shit on the floor did you?


[11/28/2020 7:38 PM] yashsedai
bahahahaha


[11/29/2020 2:51 PM] hon1nbo
Some kind of cruise event happening over by the studio movie grill at northwest highway


[11/29/2020 2:53 PM] hon1nbo
There's tents and stuff setup too. Some classics, some low riders. No idea what meetups are going on these days I haven't been to one in years


[11/29/2020 3:04 PM] kenpurcell
Drive In, Corona Out?

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[11/29/2020 4:02 PM] hon1nbo
It's been a weird mix of cars. Apparently it's the Swift club.


[12/2/2020 6:00 PM] mariooo8524
Are we meeting tomorrow?  What's the plan?


[12/4/2020 2:11 PM] andrew5152
lol
blast from the past...

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[12/4/2020 5:34 PM] kenpurcell
Does auto need a portable spot welder for $100?


[12/4/2020 6:15 PM] michaelb5250
Maybe metal shop?


[12/4/2020 6:56 PM] hon1nbo
I can't think that we do


[12/4/2020 6:56 PM] hon1nbo
unless it were super fancy goosenecks


[12/4/2020 7:06 PM] kenpurcell
Just 1/2" copper loops 8-10 inches long


[12/18/2020 6:01 PM] nullinterface
lolz 
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/12/art-imitates-life-as-tesla-cybertruck-toy-from-mattel-misses-ship-date/

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Elon Musk can't be blamed for this production delay.
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[12/20/2020 12:20 AM] hon1nbo
Parts washer has a big leak on the pressure hose Tee fitting


[12/20/2020 12:20 AM] hon1nbo
Fitting will likely need replacing


[12/31/2020 3:52 PM] hon1nbo


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[12/31/2020 3:52 PM] hon1nbo
Auto has a new tool cart!


[12/31/2020 3:52 PM] hon1nbo
Courtesy of a member

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[12/31/2020 4:18 PM] michaelb5250
Woot!


[1/1/2021 10:20 AM] hon1nbo


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[1/1/2021 10:20 AM] hon1nbo
I'm still here working on this


[1/1/2021 10:20 AM] hon1nbo
Physically exhausted but I still need to cut out the fiberglass on the original trunk so I can drop it in


[1/1/2021 10:20 AM] hon1nbo
I think in just gonna rent this trailer another day and drive to Houston in the morning


[1/1/2021 10:21 AM] hon1nbo


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[1/1/2021 10:22 AM] hon1nbo
I had to bolt the bumper back to the original mount though; the flange I made to mount it to the drawer for the pull out is too thin so it droops too much.


[1/1/2021 10:22 AM] hon1nbo
(when the drawer is pulled out that is; still bolted until I finish the quick release which I need to cut and reweld)


[1/9/2021 4:41 PM] quattroquattro
Well the power steering pump in my wife's car actually went out this time. What's the risk of driving it home with a bad pump?


[1/9/2021 5:00 PM] andrew5152
soooooo many variables...


[1/9/2021 5:00 PM] andrew5152
kind of car


[1/9/2021 5:00 PM] andrew5152
amount of boost


[1/9/2021 5:00 PM] andrew5152
speed of travel


[1/9/2021 5:00 PM] andrew5152
kind of roads...


[1/9/2021 5:02 PM] andrew5152
is this the altima?


[1/9/2021 5:38 PM] quattroquattro
Yeah it's the Altima. 2013 2 liter 4 cylinder. Cvt transmission.


[1/9/2021 5:39 PM] quattroquattro
Going to go see what the part costs and decide if I want to pay to fix it or do it myself.


[1/9/2021 5:48 PM] andrew5152
on the upside, it's a small, light car


[1/9/2021 5:48 PM] andrew5152
on the downside, that is DEFINITELY built to use heavily boosted steering, so it's going to be heavy to drive without


[1/9/2021 5:49 PM] andrew5152
all comes down to whether the driver feels "safe enough" negotiating the route...


[1/9/2021 6:16 PM] quattroquattro
I think it's fine until tomorrow


[1/9/2021 6:17 PM] quattroquattro
I'll watch some YouTube and see if I want to fix it or find someone to fix it


[1/9/2021 6:18 PM] andrew5152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o42DllMqxrk

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Nissan Altima Power Steering Pump Replace
In addition to being a how to replace a part video, this is also a how not to diagnose a noise problem video as well, because I am assuming the noise is coming from the power steering pump because it sounds sooooo much like that noise, however I realize now I should have checked everything else I could before I condemned it.
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[1/9/2021 6:18 PM] andrew5152
same one I linked before, but it should get you started...


[1/9/2021 6:18 PM] andrew5152
I doubt it changed much in the intervening decade, but you never know...


[1/10/2021 9:02 AM] quattroquattro
Thanks


[1/10/2021 9:08 AM] quattroquattro
Frankly with everything else I'm dealing with right now I will probably just have it fixed. Between the funeral and handling my father's estate I think I've got enough stress.

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[1/18/2021 11:33 AM] hon1nbo.dmz
Update on bumper: not even texas clay mud is making it's way into the bumper drawer. After rampaging through the fields the detent pins stayed in place perfectly and the drawer pulls out and stows cleanly.


[1/23/2021 7:11 PM] engpin1964
Do you have a steering wheel puller


[1/23/2021 7:41 PM] canibalcrab
hands?


[1/24/2021 3:45 PM] engpin1964
You offering ? lol


[1/24/2021 3:46 PM] engpin1964
This wheel is on fairly well


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[1/26/2021 5:58 PM] hon1nbo
I think these are a wee bit more aggressive than my last tyres

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[1/27/2021 1:34 AM] hon1nbo
Also Automotive now has some proper cable cutters


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[2/15/2021 2:30 AM] hon1nbo
I think I currently have more traction than on normal pavement
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[2/15/2021 2:55 AM] themitch22
You've been preparing for this. I wish I had a 4x4 for these cases


[2/15/2021 3:04 AM] talkers
You only need one wheel


[2/15/2021 3:07 AM] themitch22
I thought about it but I don't feel like breaking a bone yet


[2/15/2021 3:08 AM] talkers
The snow will cushion you?


[2/15/2021 4:44 PM] hardsuit
All you native Texans are spoiled.  🥵


[2/15/2021 4:45 PM] hardsuit
Had to deal with snow and road conditions like this multiple times a year in Philadelphia.  Granted, not in combination with these temps, but driving yesterday wasn't that bad


[2/15/2021 4:46 PM] hardsuit
Plus everyone on the highway was going slow and giving lots of room, was rather surprised by that.


[2/15/2021 4:46 PM] canibalcrab
after the most recent incident i think a lot of people will be a bit safer for a while


[2/15/2021 5:16 PM] hardsuit
The 35W one? I would hope so


[2/18/2021 10:07 AM] slinkygn
You mean you lived in a part of PA where they don't plow (or at least treat) roads?  What, like the fringe of the Ozarks or something?


[2/18/2021 10:09 AM] slinkygn
oh, nm, you said Philadelphia... don't know where in Philadelphia the muni refuses to clear major thoroughfares, but I guess it's changed a lot since I've been there. O.o


[2/18/2021 10:12 AM] slinkygn
I've *never* had to drive in conditions like this anywhere in the North... because up there *somebody* does *something* to make sure you're not just letting the snow melt in the sun, then refreeze as oily ice, and then do that a few more times over so that morning rush hour is basically a death trap every day and the only safe time to drive is the hour or two in the afternoon after some of it has finally melted the slightest bit from the direct sunshine and before it all refreezes.


[2/18/2021 10:15 AM] slinkygn
munis that plow and neighbors that de-ice -- *that* is being spoiled 🤣 (and give me being spoiled any day of the week over this!)


[2/18/2021 10:16 AM] slinkygn
that's the difference between "oh, look, watch out, an ice slick in the road" and "oh, look, 35W is one huge skating rink"


[2/18/2021 12:58 PM] nullinterface
logic seems to be "something that happens a couple *days* a year isn't worth issuing bonds to buy the equipment then additional operating funds to train people / maintain the equipment"


[2/18/2021 1:08 PM] slinkygn
"...at least, not *this* year"


[2/18/2021 1:09 PM] slinkygn
said every year, rather than planned out over the next 20


[2/18/2021 1:09 PM] nullinterface
sand can be spread with an accessory on a dump truck, which is what most municipalities have opted for


[2/18/2021 1:10 PM] slinkygn
whereas they could just get some folks here from #automotive who could tell them how little labor (from a city-budget perspective) goes into storing a car for a few years that rarely gets used


[2/18/2021 1:10 PM] slinkygn
heck, I'd settle for sand.  Grapevine certainly didn't "settle" for anything.


[2/18/2021 1:10 PM] nullinterface
it's the capital dollars that cities are worried about


[2/18/2021 1:10 PM] slinkygn
And it rarely looks like TXDoT has ever "settled" for anything on their highways as well.


[2/18/2021 1:11 PM] slinkygn
Sure, initial layout is significant.


[2/18/2021 1:11 PM] nullinterface
didn't see any evidence of sand in Lewisville during my one brief foray yesterday


[2/18/2021 1:11 PM] slinkygn
So you'd have to do it, oh, I don't know


[2/18/2021 1:12 PM] slinkygn
maybe after an enormous multi-car pileup leads to a number of casualties, so it's fresh in people's minds that maybe spending 1/200th of a new school and floating that cost over the next 10yrs might be something worth considering


[2/18/2021 1:12 PM] nullinterface
last big ice storm I had to drive in TxDOT was regularly applying sand to overpasses and bridges


[2/18/2021 1:12 PM] nullinterface
haven't had to trek into the office this go-round


[2/18/2021 1:13 PM] slinkygn
Perhaps on overpasses and bridges, it's done.  Certainly not on the rest of the road, even on high-traffic main thoroughfares.


[2/18/2021 1:13 PM] nullinterface
although I'll say that there's something in the mindset around here where certain bad outcomes are seen as morally superior


[2/18/2021 1:13 PM] slinkygn
that's certainly an additional component, yes.


[2/18/2021 1:14 PM] slinkygn
not quite enough "there but for the grace of God/Allah/the FSM go I" for my tastes, personally


[2/18/2021 1:16 PM] nullinterface
does seem like almost every large muni in the region has *some* sort of fleet of heavy trucks that could switch-hit to spread sand so that some modicum of mobility is maintained for those that must venture out


[2/18/2021 1:17 PM] nullinterface
I spent a good ~decade working for an ISP doing critical network support in a role where WFH was **VERBOTEN** so I just got used to driving on icy roads


[2/18/2021 1:20 PM] nullinterface
I do see a curious degree of canards, red herrings, and Chewbaca defense of the status quo re: this latest weather-inflicted disaster

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[2/18/2021 1:22 PM] nullinterface
I mean, individual preparedness is good, but it's not a solid argument for .gov and utility ineffectual actions to prevent these disasters


[3/13/2021 7:01 PM] michaelb5250
Pictures can't do justice to how rusted this transmission is. Gotta figure out how to get it in at least one gear.

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[3/13/2021 7:09 PM] michaelb5250
Probably going to fill the case with evaporust for a week and see if that does it.

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[3/15/2021 10:42 PM] nullinterface
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[3/25/2021 8:35 PM] engpin1964
Removed my dash to change my speedo


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[3/25/2021 8:35 PM] engpin1964
The old paint was flaky.    So I think I found the right one


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[4/20/2021 7:57 PM] skyspook
At least it matches


[4/20/2021 8:19 PM] yashsedai
Lololol case of the missing ratchets


[4/20/2021 8:46 PM] aceat64
free ratchet


[4/23/2021 9:42 PM] nullinterface
still amuses

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[4/25/2021 10:05 AM] adam1334
Of all the Honda’s that ever needed a wing attached. This one needs it the most.


[4/25/2021 2:05 PM] hon1nbo
Auto meeting


[4/25/2021 2:06 PM] hon1nbo
We have a vote on the cost of lift training


[4/25/2021 2:06 PM] hon1nbo
Giving it a few minutes to see who joins


[4/25/2021 2:06 PM] yashsedai
i have business


[4/25/2021 2:06 PM] yashsedai
be right there


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[4/28/2021 7:40 PM] andrew5152
Yeah. That Sears vise is...wikked scary...


[5/7/2021 12:36 PM] engpin1964


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[5/7/2021 12:36 PM] engpin1964
Meet Darlene


[5/7/2021 1:39 PM] quattroquattro
Did you buy another one?


[5/7/2021 5:01 PM] talkers
Sweet! 3rd one is the charm


[5/7/2021 5:01 PM] talkers
Looks really clean


[5/7/2021 7:21 PM] engpin1964
Yes.   The red car is no more


[5/8/2021 7:19 AM] kenpurcell
Who needs a working engine?!


[5/8/2021 2:41 PM] engpin1964
Well it was a gerbil issue.     He became to lazy


[5/21/2021 8:51 PM] engpin1964
Who@is the chair of auto


[5/21/2021 9:27 PM] yashsedai
@hon1nbo (k/j/t) exsilium


[5/21/2021 9:29 PM] hon1nbo
For another week at least


[5/22/2021 11:42 PM] nullinterface
I feel like you shouldn't need to know all that much about how engines work to see the problem

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[5/23/2021 3:48 AM] slinkygn
I mean, he's not wrong, it'll look *lovely*


[5/23/2021 3:49 AM] slinkygn
Maybe he can even get himself a custom clear acrylic head to show off the valves


[5/23/2021 3:50 AM] slinkygn
(assuming they still fit, those don't look like thin coats of paint either)


[5/23/2021 3:51 AM] slinkygn
+10% speed bonus from the red, +10% speed bonus from the see-thru head -- he'll be the coolest kid in school


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[6/14/2021 7:06 PM] andrew5152
fubars the sound, but otherwise OK


[6/15/2021 7:18 AM] nullinterface
also a ~½ scale kitplane


[6/18/2021 9:35 AM] nullinterface
I'm not an 'experienced mechanic' by any means but I think I've got an idea of what went wrong...

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[6/18/2021 9:45 AM] themitch22
They're not made of wood?


[6/18/2021 9:50 AM] nullinterface
only a defect if you're Allen


[6/18/2021 9:55 AM] andrew5152
this is a perfectly valid backwoods kludge for not having a brake lathe handy. Just insert like so and use normally for a mile or 2 including at least 3 hard stops from >40mph (believe me, ALL stops are harder than you'd think!) to perfectly match rotor machined surface to pad orientation. Then be certain to flip them ON THE SAME side (you wouldn't believe how many times I've seen a tech flip them to the OTHER side!) et viola! Perfectly match-turned rotors!

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[6/18/2021 10:02 AM] nullinterface
such a method cannot possibly go over any way but awesome


[6/18/2021 11:00 AM] yashsedai
lololol


[6/23/2021 1:17 PM] slinkygn
you sound... serious.  Are you serious?  I honest to goodness can't tell either way.


[6/23/2021 2:06 PM] slinkygn
Lord knows I've seen more painful backwoods kludges for cars than that one, but boy.


[6/23/2021 2:56 PM] andrew5152
I can't say that I am unable to imagine a scenario or 3 where I might employ such a *ahem* technique, but I don't think I'd tell anyone about it... (straight faces are easier through written communications...)

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[6/25/2021 3:58 PM] slinkygn
*phew* 😁


[6/25/2021 3:59 PM] slinkygn
I think where you "complained" about other techs doing it wrong was where you had me starting to wonder if you'd actually *seen* this happen 🙂

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[6/29/2021 2:16 PM] andrew5152
paint in metallic pea, strap gramma to the roof, and ROLL to wally world (the range on that things' ♾️ , right)

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[6/29/2021 2:45 PM] nullinterface
*metallic pea* 😂


[6/29/2021 2:47 PM] nullinterface
Still expecting the final form of that thing to be more ... conventional


[6/29/2021 2:48 PM] nullinterface
especially with Ford apparently managing to get reasonable range from what was originally expected to be a *compliance design*


[6/29/2021 3:04 PM] andrew5152
you mean the Lightning *dodges to avoid being struck by same due to blasphemous invocation of the holy name*?


[6/29/2021 3:51 PM] nullinterface
Yes


[6/29/2021 4:08 PM] andrew5152
no idea who's running ford these days, but...yeah. Bronco missed the mark by a zillion miles, in my opinion (should have been Raptor SUV, not Minnie Mouse/potato head Xover). Lightning...well... if the name hadn't already been applied to the uberTruck of yore, would have been clever, but alas! there's already a Lightning brand cache, and that ain't it. Ditto on the Ranger/Maverick twins situation...
and that doesn't even tough on the Mustang e-Mach mashup that should have been aborted... Thankfully, I haven' been shoveling any of my $ ford's way. Looks like I won't be starting to any time soon.


[6/29/2021 10:54 PM] nullinterface
TBH, the whole attachment to and mystique behind these various marquees mystifies me


[6/29/2021 10:55 PM] nullinterface
to the extent I'm a 'car guy' I've got at best casual familiarity with the sub-models and trims that spark vicious flame wars on many a forum


[6/29/2021 10:56 PM] andrew5152
apparently  I find myself on the other end of that... don't like when good names are attached to bad things just to grab their wind


[6/29/2021 10:56 PM] nullinterface
a lot of those good names were not coming back


[6/29/2021 10:57 PM] nullinterface
F-series ... Raptor appears to have succeeded where the Lighting tried and failed


[6/29/2021 10:58 PM] nullinterface
thus, Ford attempts an electric F-150 ... the branding is obvious


[6/29/2021 10:59 PM] nullinterface
and since they seem to have filled their order book with $100 pseudo-deposits ... they're apt to be crying all the way to the bank


[6/29/2021 11:00 PM] nullinterface
hell, *I* have owned 3½ Fords - none of them new.  whatever I feel about the Ranger reboot is utterly irrelevant to Ford.


[6/29/2021 11:01 PM] andrew5152
yep. more power to them. American car buyers are a bunch of idiots. Made obvious by the death of the stickshift. More's the pity. We can't all be me, I guess (thank goodness!!).


[6/29/2021 11:03 PM] nullinterface
to be honest, if my next vehicle isn't electric, odds are I'll forego the pleasures of the 3-pedal arrangement.  the old days of the *hesitant yet twitchy* 4-speed slushbox have finally passed and driving has become another task to get done with.


[6/29/2021 11:05 PM] andrew5152
I refuse to admit that now, but I won't be surprised if that happens to me, too.


[6/29/2021 11:06 PM] andrew5152
and there probably won't be anything non-electric that does NOT have the CVT in the range of prices I'll be *ahem* comfortable paying


[6/29/2021 11:07 PM] nullinterface
yeah, the CVT - such promise but in the end pretty meh execution at reasonable price levels


[6/29/2021 11:08 PM] andrew5152
CVT are cool as fuck....to read about...tear down... not so much to drive/count on...but it's what "we" are doing since the DSG is even less popular (rightfully or wrongfully)


[6/29/2021 11:09 PM] nullinterface
a number of automakers annihilated the main benefits of the CVT by emulating automatic gearboxes ... because people refused to adapt to constant revs


[6/29/2021 11:09 PM] nullinterface
mother has a Subaru that does that sh_t and it's baffling - achieve neither better power nor better economy


[6/29/2021 11:30 PM] michaelb5250
It's annoying that they continue to reuse classic trim lines, but lightning is some dead obvious branding. And the electric model is slated to be a full second quicker to 60 than the supercharged V8, so at least it's not for nothing.


[6/29/2021 11:31 PM] michaelb5250
There's some precedent too, ranger was a trim line on the F series pickups first and then just became an entire model on it's own.


[6/29/2021 11:32 PM] nullinterface
there seems to be considerable overlap between the people who rage at said reuse and people who won't be buying new vehicles from said companies at all 😉


[6/29/2021 11:32 PM] nullinterface
the compact pickup as we once knew it is seemingly dead unless you're Toyota or Nissan


[6/29/2021 11:34 PM] nullinterface
given the *meh* tow and cargo ratings that compact frame-based trucks offered I'm not sure that the new unibody compact trucks are all that bad of a thing for someone that wants the hauling utility for the occasional run to the home despot or wants to tow a jetski


[6/30/2021 6:25 AM] andrew5152
which would have been the obvious tack on the current lineup instead instead of the *whatyoumaycallit* "Ranger"...should have just made the 4-door shortbed F150 the "Ranger" trimline and called it a day.


[6/30/2021 8:00 AM] nullinterface
spotted a Mach-E in the wild the other day.  wasn't nearly as hideous as most other crossovers.  but also sufficiently ... sedan-like ... that I wonder why they had to make it a crossover at all


[6/30/2021 8:29 AM] themitch22
My thought is the younger generations will go back to smaller vehicles with less of them having kids and not being able to afford $50k luxury suvs and trucks. That and gas being $4+/gal

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[6/30/2021 8:30 AM] themitch22
I'm a fan of the Mach-E it's as close to a Tesla without being a Tesla


[6/30/2021 9:43 AM] nullinterface
Ford build quality problems vs Tesla build quality problems?  😂


[6/30/2021 9:59 AM] nullinterface
I might have ~~loaned a random dealership $100 interest free~~ *put down a deposit* on the F-150 Lightning ... except I would have had to negotiate with whatever dealer to get a refund


[6/30/2021 10:00 AM] nullinterface
and TBH I start to feel punchy after about 90 seconds of having to interact with a car dealer


[6/30/2021 3:13 PM] themitch22
Traditional car dealership model is terrible and I want to avoid it at all costs next time. I'm way more apt to buy from carmax or carvana.


[6/30/2021 3:20 PM] andrew5152
Helped 2 family members buy through Costco. Remarkably easypeasy. No "deals", but acceptable rates on cars that are in demand, and couldn't have been happier with the whole process (well, I could, but they were still much easier than "usual" dealer experiences)


[6/30/2021 3:20 PM] andrew5152
ya gotta want what they're selling, though, like all Costco things.


[6/30/2021 3:32 PM] talkers
I second the fleet purchase thru Costco or similar. No need to negotiate. All clearly priced. They even do it for used cars


[6/30/2021 4:10 PM] rayearth42
I enjoy negotiating and showing up with my amortization schedules...it can be an interesting game  😅


[6/30/2021 8:47 PM] nullinterface
I almost *accidentally* a VW GTI in 2017 because the salesman - whose first language wasn't English - didn't quite understand that my request for a firm price wasn't an intent to purchase


[6/30/2021 8:48 PM] nullinterface
and I was OK with telling the finance guy that no I wasn't buying.  but then the manager waylaid me on the way out.  So Rusty Wallis VW can go get wrecked.


[6/30/2021 10:08 PM] themitch22
The backroom finance guy trick is the worst


[6/30/2021 11:17 PM] canibalcrab
parts washer air gun is leaking a lot in various positions


[6/30/2021 11:17 PM] skyspook
Fun times. Think freddy ordered a new part and they sent the wrong one?


[6/30/2021 11:37 PM] yashsedai
Dis be correct


[6/30/2021 11:38 PM] yashsedai
New parts are ordered and should be here soon


[6/30/2021 11:38 PM] yashsedai
Partsmaster company is hilarious


[7/1/2021 8:20 AM] nullinterface
f__ck.  I bought that car 4 years ago now.


[7/1/2021 9:41 AM] gumbyjones
Hey everyone, im not currently a member (but have ben in the past) and am wondering if anyone would help me learn and work on a '83 300D. It has some interior damage that I could use help with, and while everything under the hood is in decent order right now, I would like to learn how to work on the engine while its in good-to-decent condition or before something important breaks. If you'd be willing or able to help me please let me know. thanks!


[7/1/2021 10:49 AM] themitch22
I dont know much about those cars except UN embassadors drive them with flags of their countries flying on the side.

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[7/1/2021 10:50 AM] yashsedai
lolol


[7/1/2021 11:19 AM] gumbyjones
well at the end of the day its diesel engine from the 80s so if you know anything about that then youre already leagues ahead of my knowledge and experience


[7/1/2021 11:19 AM] gumbyjones
all ive had so far is youtube to teach me


[7/1/2021 11:27 AM] talkers
My mom, and separately as i didn't know him then, my father-in-law, both had 300SD. The look of the car holds up well. 

If you add the flags that is


[7/1/2021 11:29 AM] doug.emes
the dyesub makes very pretty flags on polyster fabrics 🙂


[7/1/2021 11:43 AM] gumbyjones
Like this style?

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[7/1/2021 12:11 PM] talkers
Needs to be on the fenders


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[7/1/2021 12:13 PM] talkers
Lol Amazon even sells them


[7/1/2021 12:49 PM] themitch22
Even better is you're a tin-pot dictator


[7/1/2021 1:06 PM] gumbyjones
i made a quick mockup of what I think im looking for /s

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[7/1/2021 1:12 PM] themitch22
The trucks have enough room for your unfaithful minions bodies


[7/2/2021 10:33 PM] slinkygn
A tip about this in particular, for whoever might need it:  Had to purchase a car +-3y ago (well, the fiance did, but thus the gruntwork is mine), and I had a number of these fleet-style prenegotiated car services through various sources -- Costco, AmEx, a local credit union, a labor union membership, there may have been one more.  Four or five in total.


[7/2/2021 10:34 PM] slinkygn
I started process with every one of them to compare pricing.  I suspected that basically every one of them would have the same pricing, and I was largely correct -- except for Costco.  For whatever reason, they came in *substantially* cheaper than all the others.


[7/2/2021 10:34 PM] slinkygn
I think the fifth may have been AAA?  Do they do that sort of thing?  I'm not certain.


[7/2/2021 10:35 PM] slinkygn
I thought if there was going to be an outlier it'd be AmEx; I was very wrong.  Costco won by a mile.


[7/2/2021 11:42 PM] talkers
That is interesting. That's who I used in 2008 for the Honda


[7/2/2021 11:42 PM] talkers
You need about a dozen flags to show your domination of politics


[7/3/2021 10:51 PM] nullinterface
will consider Costco next time I'm buying.  my disdain for car dealerships is substantial.


[7/5/2021 9:22 AM] nullinterface
Regular Cars got their grubby little mitts on a Mach-E:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AfYpClVkQE

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[7/5/2021 9:33 AM] andrew5152
lol so it's a slightly less shitty Tesla than the Tesla SUXv...and it's fine with them if Ford wants to flog the Mustang horsey for another round of cashgrab...
well, ok then.


[7/5/2021 9:35 AM] nullinterface
I recall a surprisingly unfiltered interview that the President or CEO of Harley gave about time that the LiveWire was initially announced.  The soundbite was basically "yeah they hate us in Sturgis, but they're not going to be buying bikes in 10 years and we have no intention of dying with them."


[7/5/2021 9:38 AM] nullinterface
for whatever reason the market will cough up $5-$10k more for a crossover than a sedan which can be magicked into existence for far less than said price premium


[7/5/2021 9:59 AM] nullinterface
*of course, Harley hasn't exactly moved mountains with the LiveWire, but that's likely a failing of their overall business model of moving top-end highway cruisers in a market that's losing interest in that segment*


[7/5/2021 10:02 AM] nullinterface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOwxxsPaogY

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If Harley Davidson is the Titanic, the pandemic might just be that one big iceberg. Worse still, it had a hole in the hull and sputtering engines before all this even began. Damn. Is HD done for? [Details below]

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[7/5/2021 2:21 PM] themitch22
I'm more excited about the hybrid Maverick truck now than the Mach-E. An affordable new base model truck with a hybrid is the city commuter compromise I'd want.


[7/5/2021 2:23 PM] themitch22
Harley is a merchandise lifestyle company first, I can't imagine they aren't hemorrhaging money having thousands of dealerships in small town rest stops.


[7/5/2021 2:23 PM] themitch22
I also am sad they stopped selling Buell's, they were my favorite bikes


[7/5/2021 2:24 PM] nullinterface
they've suspended production before...


[7/5/2021 2:24 PM] nullinterface
but without the bikes will people buy their overpriced merch?


[7/5/2021 2:24 PM] nullinterface
not sure that motorcycle dealerships are offered the same support as automobile dealerships


[7/5/2021 2:25 PM] themitch22
I was a unique case that they had the only comfortable low seat height bike when I was looking 10 years ago. The sales guys were really pushy though.


[7/5/2021 2:26 PM] nullinterface
the *brand* will be worth something to somebody even if Harley stops making bikes, but how much and for how long is anyone's guess


[7/5/2021 2:27 PM] canibalcrab
Harley is the biggest cosplay group in the nation

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[7/5/2021 2:28 PM] nullinterface
I had some occasional insights into the motorcycle dealership biz a ~decade ago when a friend would do occasional favors for the owner of a Yamaha dealership.  Profit margins on the bikes was negotiable - the real margin was accessories and gear sales.


[7/5/2021 2:28 PM] themitch22
honda/suzuki/kawasaki will eat up all the cruiser business anyway. Polaris owns the rest of the american brands.


[7/5/2021 2:28 PM] nullinterface
Financing was basically a credit card


[7/5/2021 2:29 PM] nullinterface
which I'm sure the dealerships got some cut on


[7/5/2021 2:29 PM] themitch22
financed a bike like a credit card. I paid it off earlier but I broke even selling it so that was good.


[7/5/2021 2:29 PM] nullinterface
if it took a $500 credit on high-margin merch and gear to make the sale, they profited on the backend


[7/5/2021 2:36 PM] themitch22
I was a cool biker once lol then when I moved back to DFW I realized how bad DFW is for motorcyclists and sold it.

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[7/5/2021 2:37 PM] themitch22
Zero is announcing a new electric motorcycle soon btw


[7/5/2021 2:45 PM] nullinterface
6 months of brutal summer, another 2-3 months of surprisingly unpleasant damp winters, with the cherry of bad roads and drivers that are hostile to non-cagers?  yeah.


[7/6/2021 2:29 PM] aceat64
_laughs in motorcycle gear drenched in sweat_


[7/6/2021 2:30 PM] aceat64
I did get a new jacket that's helped a ton though, it's a very breathable "hoodie"


[7/6/2021 3:01 PM] darrent_
I guess I've been sleeping under a rock.  There's a fleet of cars by the HD near Forest and 75 that I don't recognize.  Something called a Kandi?🤷🏻


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[7/6/2021 3:02 PM] darrent_
Apparently it's an electric vehicle ...


[7/6/2021 3:03 PM] yashsedai
HUGO's!


[7/6/2021 3:16 PM] andrew5152
?


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[7/6/2021 3:17 PM] michaelb5250
Yeah they've been slowly moving those in. Looks like it's the companies first jump into the US market.


[7/6/2021 3:17 PM] yashsedai
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[7/6/2021 3:17 PM] andrew5152
NA HQ in Garland, TX
https://www.kandiamerica.com/About-Us/


[7/6/2021 3:18 PM] andrew5152
LOVE Yugos!


[7/6/2021 3:52 PM] nullinterface
K27 probably qualifies as a NEV, thus not subject to as stringent safety requirements as most vehicles since it's not supposed to offer some modicum of protection against an 18-wheeler colliding at >70MPH


[7/6/2021 3:55 PM] nullinterface
Yugos were bad, but were they *Trabant* bad?


[7/6/2021 3:55 PM] andrew5152
each special in their own way...


[7/6/2021 3:56 PM] andrew5152
at least the ~~fiats~~ Yugos started out as metal...


[7/6/2021 3:56 PM] nullinterface
2-smoke engine almost entirety of production


[7/6/2021 4:01 PM] nullinterface
> Pooning a bimbo box takes more skill than a ped would ever imagine, because of their very road-unworthiness, their congenital lack of steel or other ferrous matter for the MagnaPoon to bite down on. Now they have superconducting poons that stick to aluminum bodywork by inducing eddy currents in the actual flesh of the car, turning it into an unwilling electromagnet, but Y.T. does not have one of these. They are the trademark of the hardcore Burbclave surfer, which, despite this evening's entertainment, she is not. Her poon will only stick to steel, iron, or (slightly) to nickel. The only steel in a bimbo box of this make is in the frame.
> 
> She makes a low-slung approach. Her poon's orbital plane is nearly vertical, it almost grinds on the twinkly suburban macadam on the forward limb of each orbit. When she pounds the release button, it takes off from an altitude of about one centimeter, angling slightly upward, across the street, under the floor of the bimbo box, and sucks steel. It's a solid hit, as solid as you can get on this nebula of air, upholstery, paint, and marketing known as the family minivan.
> 
> The reaction is instantaneous, quick-witted by Burb standards. This person wants Y.T. gone. The van takes off like a hormone-pumped bull who has just been nailed in the ass by the barbed probe of a picador. It's not Mom at the wheel. It's young Studley, the teenaged boy, who like every other boy in this Burbclave has been taking intravenous shots of horse testosterone every afternoon in the high school locker room since he was fourteen years old. Now he's bulky, stupid, thoroughly predictable.


[7/6/2021 4:01 PM] nullinterface
> He steers erratically, artificially pumped muscles not fully under his control. The molded, leather-grained, maroon-colored steering wheel smells like his mother's hand lotion; this drives him into a rage. The bimbo box surges and slows, surges and slows, because he is pumping the gas pedal, because holding it to the floor doesn't seem to have any effect. He wants this car to be like his muscles: more power than he knows what to do with. Instead, it hampers him. As a compromise, he hits the button that says POWER. Another button that says ECONOMY pops out and goes dead, reminding him, like an educational demonstration, that the two are mutually exclusive. The van's tiny engine downshifts, which makes it feel more powerful. He holds his foot steady on the gas and, making the run down Cottage Heights Road, the minivan's speed approaches one hundred kilometers.
> 
> Approaching the terminus of Cottage Heights Road, where it tees into Bellewoode Valley Road, he espies a fire hydrant. TMAWH fire hydrants are numerous, for safety, and highly designed, for property values, not the squat iron things imprinted with the name of some godforsaken Industrial Revolution foundry and furry from a hundred variously flaked layers of cheap city paint. They are brass, robot-polished every Thursday morning, dignified pipes rising straight up from the perfect, chemically induced turf of the Burbclave lawns, flaring out to present potential firefighters with a menu of three possible hose connections. They were designed on a computer screen by the same aesthetes who designed the DynaVictorian houses and the tasteful mailboxes and the immense marble street signs that sit at each intersection like headstones. Designed on a computer screen, but with an eye toward the elegance of things past and forgotten about. Fire hydrants that tasteful people are proud to have on their front lawns. Fire hydrants that the real estate people don't feel the need to airbrush out of pictures.


[7/6/2021 4:01 PM] nullinterface
> This fucking Kourier is about to die, knotted around one of those fire hydrants. Studley the Testosterone Boy will see to it. It is a maneuver he has witnessed on television -- which tells no lies -- a trick he has practiced many times in his head. Building up maximum speed on Cottage Heights, he will yank the hand brake while swinging the wheel. The ass end of the minivan will snap around. The pesky Kourier will be cracked like a whip at the end of her unbreakable cable. Into the fire hydrant she will go. Studley the Teenager will be victorious, free to cruise in triumph down Bellewoode Valley and out into the greater world of adult men in cool cars, free to go return his overdue videotape, Raft Warriors V: The Final Battle.


[7/6/2021 4:01 PM] nullinterface
> Y.T. does not know any of this for a fact, but she suspects it. None of this is real. It is her reconstruction of the psychological environment inside of that bimbo box. She sees the hydrant coming a mile away, sees Studley reaching down to rest one hand on the parking brake. It is all so obvious. She feels sorry for Studley and his ilk. She reels out, gives herself lots of slack. He whips the wheel, jerks the brake. The minivan goes sideways, overshooting its mark, and doesn't quite snap her around the way he wanted; she has to help it. As its ass is rotating around, she reels in hard, converting that gift of angular momentum into forward velocity, and ends up shooting right past the van going well over a mile a minute. She is headed for a marble gravestone that says BELLEWOODE VALLEY ROAD. She leans away from it, leans into a vicious turn, her spokes grip the pavement and push her away from that gravestone, she can touch the pavement with one hand she is heeled over so hard, the spokes push her onto the desired street. Meanwhile, she has clicked off the electromagnetic force that held her pooned to the van. The poon head comes loose, caroms off the pavement behind her as it is automatically reeled in to reunite with the handle. She is headed straight for the exit of the Burbclave at fantastic speed. Behind her, an explosive crash sounds, resonating in her gut, as the minivan slides sideways into the gravestone.


[7/6/2021 4:05 PM] nullinterface
apologies for the wall of text, but that lead in - *congenital lack of steel* - always makes me laugh


[7/6/2021 4:07 PM] yashsedai
what


[7/6/2021 4:07 PM] yashsedai
the hell


[7/6/2021 4:07 PM] yashsedai
did i jsut read


[7/6/2021 4:09 PM] nullinterface
passage from *Snow Crash*, a delightful absurdist cyberpunk novel by Neal Stephenson


[7/6/2021 4:09 PM] yashsedai
ah


[7/6/2021 4:09 PM] nullinterface
the main character's name is *Hiro Protagonist* 😂


[7/6/2021 4:12 PM] nullinterface
entire book is fittingly online as a text file, i.e. https://vx-underground.org/archive/VxHeaven/lib/mns00.html


[7/6/2021 5:08 PM] themitch22
That's a hard sell in the DFW area, I'd rather get a used Leaf. How do I know it qualifies for tax credits?


[7/6/2021 5:09 PM] themitch22
100mile is minimum for daily commute here, 7.5hr charging time if you're lucky enough to have a house to charge it. I would make arrangements to charge at work.


[7/6/2021 5:28 PM] darrent_
I know someone who did just that: purchased a used Leaf as a secondary car in Portland (I think from a car rental company as they were rotating out 2 year old cars).  Worked out well as he didn't want to put in town miles uselessly on his truck.


[7/6/2021 5:29 PM] darrent_
Also, 100 mile commutes are stupid and unfortunate for those who have to make them (particularly while driving their own car).


[7/6/2021 5:40 PM] aceat64
Who is doing 100 mile commutes?! It's only like 30 miles from Denton to Dallas

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[7/6/2021 5:41 PM] aceat64
You'd have to be way up past McKinney and going into like ft worth


[7/6/2021 5:50 PM] nullinterface
I can see the argument for >100 miles' range for occasional contingencies such as needing to make a major detour or a prolonged weekend outing


[7/6/2021 5:51 PM] nullinterface
but there are corner cases.  one co-worker lived >80 miles from the office.  another had to make >100 miles/day routinely due to child custody arrangements.


[7/6/2021 5:59 PM] andrew5152
problem with living 35 miles from where I work (The Colony to Mesquite) on a 100 mile range is those occasions where I ALSO need to go anywhere else with the HVAC running...


[7/6/2021 6:00 PM] michaelb5250
I know what y'all mean. My 5.5 mile commute is just the worst. I much preferred the 2.5 mile drive at the last job.

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[7/6/2021 6:00 PM] nullinterface
The case for the NEV is either one of the tiny handful of cities that have been purpose-engineered for them or dense metro areas that are otherwise walkable


[7/6/2021 6:07 PM] andrew5152
Segway...


[7/6/2021 6:07 PM] nullinterface
last 18 months my commute has been about 20 feet


[7/6/2021 6:19 PM] themitch22
Unless I could get a 220v extension at work or city hall next to my apartment leaves their chargers on overnight (I think they're only during business hours)


[7/6/2021 6:20 PM] themitch22
I've seriously considering it when the mini grenades itself


[7/6/2021 6:21 PM] nullinterface
EV ownership model presently slanted heavily towards those with dedicated off-street parking w/ access to 240V service


[7/6/2021 6:21 PM] themitch22
I will totally run a 110v extension cord to my apartment parking garage


[7/6/2021 6:23 PM] themitch22
More DC fast charging would make EVs more practical


[7/6/2021 6:23 PM] nullinterface
DC fast charging harder on the pack


[7/6/2021 6:23 PM] themitch22
Any long term studies on this?


[7/6/2021 6:23 PM] nullinterface
doing it as a substitute for slow charging presents a significant hit to lifespan


[7/6/2021 6:23 PM] themitch22
Do we expect EVs to be junked after 10 years when the batteries go bad?


[7/6/2021 6:24 PM] nullinterface
a well known effect on li-ion batteries


[7/6/2021 6:24 PM] nullinterface
the 'gas station' model is not a good fit for EVs


[7/6/2021 6:25 PM] nullinterface
since the typical automobile spends 8+ hours a day in one of two set locations, better to slow-charge them at the endpoints


[7/6/2021 6:25 PM] themitch22
Battery swapping and reconditioning would be ideal or hydrogen fuel cell but we're back to who's paying for infrastructure


[7/6/2021 6:26 PM] nullinterface
hydrogen will demand trillions in new infrastructure to make expensive, inefficient EVs.  battery swapping will also be an expensive proposition since *the most expensive part of the car* has to be staged and ready for the relatively few that are likely to demand such service.


[7/6/2021 6:27 PM] nullinterface
if ... flow batteries ... can ever match conventional li-* chemistry energy density you might be able to exchange electrolyte quickly-ish


[7/6/2021 6:43 PM] andrew5152
https://techxplore.com/news/2021-03-israeli-minute-battery-aims-electric.html
BAM
5-minute recharges. 
Problem solved. 
All we need are small nuclear reactors at key neighborhood "fueling stations" to meet the *ahem* current demand, and we're done here. 
Should be in YOUR neighborhood within 5 years unless my calculations are incorrect...

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[7/6/2021 7:22 PM] themitch22
That headline "fire-up" and lithium batteries


[7/6/2021 7:53 PM] nullinterface
so here's the challenge with the "5-minute fillup" that everyone insists is absolutely necessary:

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[7/6/2021 7:54 PM] nullinterface
even if you cut that down to the present 80% that li-ion packs can do in ~30 minutes on a merely *fast* charger that's a f-ton of power


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[7/6/2021 7:58 PM] nullinterface
as battery packs get bigger (hello, cybertruck, F-150 Lighting), the power demands for fast charging will escalate


[7/7/2021 8:26 PM] gumbyjones
Out of curiosity, what kind of infrastructure will be needed for hydrogen?


[7/7/2021 8:41 PM] nullinterface
hydrogen fueling stations will require considerable bespoke infrastructure *(and at least initially **engineering**)*, costing considerably more than gasoline/diesel or even NG stations.  safety requirements suggest they will not slot into the same locations as liquid fueling stations.  if the 'green' hydrogen route is taken, significant investment in electrolysis machines.  distribution will be interesting since hydrogen tankers won't have the capacity of gasoline/diesel tankers.


[7/7/2021 8:44 PM] nullinterface
of course, 'green' hydrogen is unlikely since the oil industry can make hydrogen at scale cheaply steam-reforming hydrocarbons


[7/7/2021 8:47 PM] nullinterface
and no matter how you make the hydrogen, it's a good half as efficient to burn it in a fuel cell to spin a motor as it is to discharge a battery to spin a motor


[7/7/2021 8:58 PM] nullinterface
there are no doubt challenges to EV adoption (i.e. addressing the slow-charging gap for those without dedicated off-street charging), but they're ultimately far lesser challenges than building out a comprehensive new hydrogen infrastructure since they largely center around enhancements to the ubiquitous electric grid


[7/8/2021 1:34 AM] gumbyjones
I thought hydrogen tanks are actually safer bc the fire goes up and away and not splattered all over concrete steel and skin. 

I haven’t heard that the tankers have such a significantly lower capacity though, that’s interesting. 

From what I’ve heard though, until there’s a new and widespread battery tech that vastly out performs lion then hydrogen is probably the best bet as an alternative fuel source for cars. 
Fun fact: the energy used to manufacture a lion battery is actually the same as the total energy output of the battery’s lifespan. So even with neglecting to consider waste materials, electric cars are not any better for the environment.


[7/8/2021 1:40 AM] themitch22
https://afdc.energy.gov/states/tx


[7/8/2021 1:40 AM] themitch22
We have no hydrogen fuel cell infrastructure


[7/8/2021 3:45 AM] gumbyjones
Yah but hydrogen can be run as fuel itself not just in fuel cell. 
The hydrogen fuel cell seems like a bigger stretch, but internal combustion engines that burn hydrogen not gas/diesel are still things.


[7/8/2021 3:49 AM] gumbyjones
Also that’s a very informative link, thank you. 
It’s interesting to know that there are 0 places to fill up on hydrogen in the state. I guess my only question is how difficult is it to respec all or part of a gas station for hydrogen?


[7/8/2021 3:52 AM] gumbyjones
I have also *heard* that once the reaction inside a hydrogen fuel cell is started, that it can’t be stopped or paused. Does anyone know anything about this?


[7/8/2021 12:24 PM] nullinterface
> Fun fact: the energy used to manufacture a lion battery is actually the same as the total energy output of the battery’s lifespan. So even with neglecting to consider waste materials, electric cars are not any better for the environment.
@GumbyJones 
~~Citation needed - especially when *price* is generally a good sign of the bound energy in an item and li-ion prices have fallen a good order of magnitude in the last ~decade while performance has increased~~

Actually found something relatively quickly : 
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2515-7620/ab5e1e#:~:text=Based%20on%20public%20data%20on,per%20kWh%20of%20battery%20capacity.

> Based on public data on two different Li-ion battery manufacturing facilities, and adjusted results from a previous study, the most reasonable assumptions for the energy usage for manufacturing Li-ion battery cells appears to be 50–65 kWh of electricity per kWh of battery capacity.

So ... 50-65 cycles while high-density cells are good for >500 full 0-100-0 cycles (meaning considerably more if you only use a fraction of the capacity, like most commuters on most modern EVs)


[7/8/2021 12:26 PM] nullinterface
Yes, it can.  But modifying an ICE to burn hydrogen is a far more involved affair than burning NG or propane.  The tankage represents a packaging challenge since it *must* be cylindrical.  And the cost of hydrogen is apt to make burning it at ICE efficiencies unpalatable.


[7/8/2021 12:27 PM] nullinterface
Fuel cells are throttle-able, but prefer to run at a steady level of output


[7/8/2021 12:33 PM] aceat64
hydrogen production is almost entirely from natural gas, kinda pointless when you can just burn the NG instead


[7/8/2021 12:34 PM] nullinterface
... using incumbent/simpler infrastructure without the exotic mods that H2 ICEs require


[7/8/2021 12:34 PM] aceat64
hydrogen _can_ be produced on site at the fueling stations, it just needs lots of water and electricity


[7/8/2021 12:35 PM] aceat64
of course, you could also simply just provide electricity and charge BEVs...


[7/8/2021 12:35 PM] nullinterface
and go more than twice as far on the same amount of juice


[7/8/2021 12:36 PM] andrew5152
just to heap onto the information pile:
https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/hydrogen_basics.html
(not that the gubment should ever be a sole source of info, but for trends...)
from there, this, about storage:
10kpsi don't come cheap nor light...

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[7/8/2021 12:37 PM] aceat64
the only scenario hydrogen makes sense for is to avoid the public having to change their habits around fueling at a station vs at home or destination

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[7/8/2021 12:37 PM] nullinterface
5000 PSI tanks are the norm for FCVs.  They can be light-ish when made from carbon fiber, but are far from cheap.


[7/8/2021 12:38 PM] andrew5152
OY! CF is *surely* carbon-neutral, right?


[7/8/2021 12:38 PM] aceat64
unless there's a major breakthrough in efficiently producing hydrogen, it's unlikely to ever really take off


[7/8/2021 12:38 PM] nullinterface
Sure.  all bound up in solid form, *sequestered* before your eyes  😂

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[7/8/2021 12:39 PM] aceat64
ignoring the energy use to produce it maybe lol


[7/8/2021 12:39 PM] aceat64
trees are much more carbon neutral/negative I bet


[7/8/2021 12:40 PM] andrew5152
make that breakthroughS in producing, transporting, storing, replenishment, etc.  Pretty much pinch points all the way along that supply chain. (in my unprofessional opinion)


[7/8/2021 12:40 PM] aceat64
wood is a great material imo


[7/8/2021 12:40 PM] nullinterface
the hydrogen economy - makes for great sci-fi where there's *handwavium* a-plenty to go round


[7/8/2021 12:41 PM] andrew5152
what's the *handwavium*:*unobtainium* exchange these days?


[7/8/2021 12:42 PM] nullinterface
√-3 : -1/7

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[7/8/2021 12:45 PM] nullinterface
Hydrogen.  I get that there's a segment that loves their internal combustion engines and that there's a larger segment that seemingly needs that weekly fillup at the kwik-e-mart.  But so many **major** hurdles to actually implementing it - many of which negate its purported 'green' advantages - along with serious downsides.


[7/8/2021 12:46 PM] nullinterface
The fact that Nikola ended up being a shell game in the end with ***no*** secret-sauce fuel cell, hydrogen production, nor actual development plans to deal with the former 2 shortcomings should be telling


[7/8/2021 12:46 PM] andrew5152
no idea why this pops to mind

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[7/8/2021 12:50 PM] gumbyjones
also i wasnt suggesting we modify ICE's to run hydrogen but build new ones that run on hydrogen


[7/8/2021 12:50 PM] gumbyjones
also I was under the impression that hydrogen was made to put into NG not a byproduct of NG


[7/8/2021 12:53 PM] gumbyjones
yeah and if you do this you *should* be able to modify existing infrastructure of gas stations instead of doing weird EV charging spots


[7/8/2021 12:57 PM] nullinterface
Doubtful.  Storing and *pumping* liquid at zero pressure is a simpler affair than a gas that must be *compressed* into the destination container at pressures greatly exceeding those which have been performed en masse elsewhere in the economy.


[7/8/2021 12:58 PM] gumbyjones
also apparently hydrogen research was being pushed in the 90s until some old researcher-man said "no hydrogen bad" and everyone lost interest. I'll try to find a source on that but someone at Rice told me that.


[7/8/2021 12:59 PM] gumbyjones
also youre right, storing this at pressure is inherently harder, but there are plenty of current fuel models (like propane iirc) that is stored at pressure and ppl manage transporting/refueling tanks of that pretty well


[7/8/2021 12:59 PM] nullinterface
costs.  it's all about the costs that no amount of R&D has been able to reduce to the point that hydrogen is competitive.


[7/8/2021 12:59 PM] nullinterface
propane and NG are at far lower pressures


[7/8/2021 1:00 PM] nullinterface
the jump from NG's ~3000 PSI to H2's 5000 PSI involves far more complexity and cost than the simple ~66% increase in the value suggests


[7/8/2021 1:01 PM] gumbyjones
oh yeah i didnt realize that hydrogen is stored at like 10-30x the pressure of propane


[7/8/2021 1:01 PM] nullinterface
retail bulk propane also something like <150PSI and that's orders of magnitude more common than NG tanks for transportation fuel


[7/8/2021 1:02 PM] gumbyjones
yeah that tracks


[7/8/2021 1:04 PM] gumbyjones
yeah the more i look into it and talk to ppl (thanks for the discussion btw) it seems like hydrogen isnt as great as some ppl think, but im also not convinced that lion battery cars are actually significantly better for the environment than gas.

But here is a question: could planes run on hydrogen fuel and cut down on emissions there?


[7/8/2021 1:05 PM] nullinterface
the likely future for hydrogen - assuming the costs ever become managable/competitive - is larger vehicles: OTR trucks, buses, trans-oceanic freight vessels, *possibly* aircraft


[7/8/2021 1:06 PM] nullinterface
the issue with aircraft is similar to smaller ground vehicles *packaging*.  Tanks must be cylindrical for reasons of strength, which means inefficient utilization of volume.


[7/8/2021 1:07 PM] gumbyjones
plane fuselodges are already cylindrical tho so you cant necessarily keep fuel in the wings but you could still do it


[7/8/2021 1:07 PM] nullinterface
notice something about the two conventionally-shaped airliners in this article's header image?
https://www.airbus.com/innovation/zero-emission/hydrogen/zeroe.html

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ZEROe
Discover ZEROe, Airbus’ hydrogen-powered


[7/8/2021 1:08 PM] nullinterface
the back ~third of the fuselage isn't cabin space


[7/8/2021 1:09 PM] nullinterface
that's a cost disadvantage on top of the already-high costs of hydrogen


[7/8/2021 1:09 PM] gumbyjones
ok this is probably a stupid question, but cant you just make the fuselage extra long?


[7/8/2021 1:09 PM] nullinterface
short answer: no


[7/8/2021 1:10 PM] nullinterface
long answer: you can, but that generally just means the 'next size up' aircraft to meet the capabilities of the 'next size down' aircraft while basically costing as much as the larger aircraft


[7/8/2021 1:11 PM] gumbyjones
gotchya


[7/8/2021 1:15 PM] nullinterface
here's a general idea of what's involved in a H2 filling station :

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[7/8/2021 1:16 PM] nullinterface
whereas a simplified model of a liquid fuels filling station would basically consist of tank(s), pumps, dispensers


[7/8/2021 1:23 PM] nullinterface
because hydrogen gas is so *effusive*, explosive across an incredibly wide range of conditions, and burns almost invisibly the safety equipment/engineering must be far more involved than a liquid filling station


[7/8/2021 1:56 PM] aceat64
there might be some hope for hydrogen storage using a fluid/slurry that you basically pump out and replace at the fueling station, but it's still unclear if that's cost effective


[7/8/2021 1:56 PM] aceat64
battery tech tree still looks the most promising


[7/8/2021 2:00 PM] nullinterface
a lot of effort has gone into hydrides and other means of storing hydrogen in a more convenient format and they all have problems


[7/8/2021 2:03 PM] aceat64
with any luck Musk will find element zero at the abandoned Prothean outpost on Mars and we can just skip right into FTL and flying cars and such


[7/8/2021 2:09 PM] nullinterface
*For every kilogram of handwavium you remove from a setting, you add about 10 cubic meters of impossible to maintain plumbing.*


[7/8/2021 2:13 PM] aceat64
even for Mass Effect eezo is horribly broken, it basically allows for the creation of infinite amounts of energy, but that's a whole other rant....


[7/8/2021 5:41 PM] nullinterface
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[7/8/2021 5:48 PM] yashsedai
Holy crap


[7/9/2021 11:38 AM] engpin1964
Just another Saturday night of driving in Dallas huh


[7/9/2021 11:52 AM] nullinterface
Nothing will beat ~20 years ago before Central to downtown was expanded coming around a bend approaching a bridge seeing a recliner between the two lanes facing traffic as if it has been carefully placed there.  I imagined a madman sitting in it howling at oncoming cars until he met his end.


[7/10/2021 10:55 AM] nullinterface


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[7/10/2021 12:26 PM] yashsedai
Lulz


[7/12/2021 7:32 PM] hon1nbo
https://youtu.be/aMVE-ZX058w

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[7/12/2021 9:08 PM] nullinterface


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[7/12/2021 9:21 PM] andrew5152
that has GOT to be on a dirt-tracker...


[7/12/2021 9:27 PM] nullinterface
or Lemons.  likely Lemons.


[7/12/2021 9:27 PM] skyspook
That was my first thought


[7/12/2021 9:27 PM] nullinterface
*(**maybe** where I lifted the pic)*


[7/12/2021 9:27 PM] skyspook
Hell, put the dryer in an open trunk and you have a theme


[7/12/2021 9:28 PM] skyspook
lol


[7/12/2021 9:28 PM] nullinterface
maybe they recycled the shell for missing body components


[7/12/2021 9:31 PM] nullinterface
or more thrillingly - structural and/or powertrain components


[7/12/2021 9:58 PM] andrew5152
Potayto, potahto...


[7/16/2021 1:43 PM] reset6666
Hey


[7/16/2021 1:44 PM] reset6666
I have taken the class for the automotive lift but my card isn’t working. Who can help me out?


[7/16/2021 1:46 PM] yashsedai
i can


[7/16/2021 1:46 PM] yashsedai
when did you take the class?


[7/16/2021 1:46 PM] yashsedai
and who was your instructor?


[7/16/2021 1:58 PM] reset6666
Hey, thanks


[7/16/2021 1:58 PM] reset6666
Ummmm it has been a couple years and I really don’t remember who it was. It was the guy who drove a Lincoln Navigator he was wanting to do a paint job on it


[7/16/2021 2:02 PM] yashsedai
Gotcha


[7/16/2021 2:02 PM] yashsedai
Gimme a few


[7/16/2021 2:02 PM] reset6666
Sure


[7/16/2021 2:03 PM] reset6666
And thank you


[7/16/2021 2:06 PM] yashsedai
U good


[7/16/2021 2:06 PM] yashsedai
Added u to group


[7/16/2021 2:11 PM] reset6666
Thank you very much


[7/16/2021 2:11 PM] reset6666
Should it be working now? Because it is not


[7/16/2021 2:12 PM] yashsedai
one sec


[7/16/2021 2:12 PM] reset6666
👍🏻👍🏻


[7/16/2021 2:12 PM] yashsedai
it may take up to 30 mins or so to replicate


[7/16/2021 2:12 PM] yashsedai
i'll see if i can help it along


[7/16/2021 2:13 PM] yashsedai
looks like its taking it


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] reset6666
Cool thanks I have other things to do here


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] yashsedai
it takes about 15 to 30 second from when you scan to it turning on


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] yashsedai
try once more


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] reset6666
The light will turn green right?


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] reset6666
It is on


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] reset6666
It stays red lol


[7/16/2021 2:14 PM] yashsedai
yup


[7/16/2021 2:15 PM] reset6666
You are awesome


[7/16/2021 2:15 PM] yashsedai
can you close your hood?


[7/16/2021 2:18 PM] reset6666
Before I lift sure


[7/16/2021 2:19 PM] yashsedai
just trying to see the led lights


[7/16/2021 2:19 PM] yashsedai
the light that turns green is on the top of the box


[7/16/2021 2:19 PM] yashsedai
the reader light is always red


[7/16/2021 2:19 PM] yashsedai
you should hear an audible click when the relay powers up


[7/16/2021 2:19 PM] reset6666
The area space cameras aren’t it is green


[7/16/2021 2:20 PM] reset6666
Areas space cameras not available to all members anymore? Or did they just move it?


[7/16/2021 2:20 PM] yashsedai
still at dallasmakerspace.org/cam


[7/16/2021 2:20 PM] reset6666
Thank you


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] yashsedai
there is a disconnect below the box, turn it off for 10 seconds and then back on


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] yashsedai
after turning it on, wait for about a minute to let the reader reaload


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] reset6666
It is working


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] yashsedai
excellent


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] reset6666
👍🏻👍🏻


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] yashsedai
thanks!


[7/16/2021 2:21 PM] reset6666
Thank you!


[7/20/2021 9:21 AM] nullinterface
a real pro would have trimmed the ziptie

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[7/20/2021 9:22 AM] skyspook
Real pro knows to use a c-clamp.


[7/20/2021 9:23 AM] skyspook
Ignore the flames from the short - means it goes faster


[7/20/2021 9:35 AM] nullinterface
that's clearly a *hose clamp* terminal


[7/20/2021 9:35 AM] skyspook
Oh, you're right. Excuse me 🙂


[7/20/2021 9:38 AM] nullinterface
or in a pinch a ~1" socket


[7/20/2021 3:14 PM] bizwacky
Oh I see the issue


[7/20/2021 3:15 PM] bizwacky
Black ziptie on the positive terminal


[7/22/2021 8:15 AM] nullinterface
sharp eye


[7/27/2021 2:25 PM] hon1nbo
we have insurance worked out for the exhaust system; calling for volunteers to help with its removal: https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/calling-volunteers-removal-pickup-of-donated-auto-exhaust/82847

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[7/28/2021 12:39 PM] nullinterface


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[8/6/2021 11:55 AM] nullinterface
hilarity all around

https://jalopnik.com/america-wants-half-of-new-cars-to-be-electric-by-2050-1847428153

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[8/6/2021 11:57 AM] nullinterface
as fond as I am of the idea of EVs I'm not sure it's possible to scale production to the point that 50% of new vehicles have some credible flavour of electric drive in less than 9 years


[8/6/2021 12:44 PM] engpin1964
Hey look I got my certification

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[8/6/2021 1:01 PM] nullinterface
can you swap an engine in 15 minutes like on the youtubes?


[8/6/2021 6:23 PM] engpin1964
No but I can watch them do it


[8/11/2021 7:47 PM] nullinterface
it's funny watching this being presented as a sort of lost history segment having lived through the ban in the 1980s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_C8z0rFnjk

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GEAR BREAKDOWN

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[8/14/2021 8:06 AM] quattroquattro
Man, I remember those things, mostly I remember getting thrown over the top when the kid driving it wrecked.... My Honda mini trail was more fun and way less painful when you messed up


[8/14/2021 8:09 AM] quattroquattro
I'd love to find a mini trail to restore, they are all going for way too much money on BAT...


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[8/14/2021 7:43 PM] slinkygn
yoots


[8/24/2021 10:32 AM] nullinterface


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[8/24/2021 10:44 AM] andrew5152
ROFL not one I've tried, but makes sense


[8/24/2021 10:50 AM] nullinterface
not quite as awesome as the Vice Grip Spring Compressor™ but you've got to work your way up to these things

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[8/24/2021 11:35 AM] doug.emes
Saw that on tik tok with bent c channel clamp.  Scary


[8/24/2021 12:01 PM] nullinterface


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[8/25/2021 9:46 AM] quattroquattro
https://www.thedrive.com/news/42076/ford-is-making-an-electric-crate-motor-and-youll-see-it-at-sema

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Ford Is Making an Electric Crate Motor, and You’ll See It at SEMA
Tired of your project car smelling like fumes and gulping gas? Well, even if you aren't, some folks are—this is for them.
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[8/25/2021 9:47 AM] quattroquattro
I'm seriously interested in this! I'd love to be driving a classic but not interested in the upkeep of a classic engine


[8/25/2021 9:52 AM] andrew5152
yep srsly surprised nobody's doing that already (lots of kits to DIY have come & gone over the years, but I think this is a first, or nearly so, in the "crate motor" concept)


[8/25/2021 10:01 AM] michaelb5250
I wonder what all is included in the model they shared (motor, charger, motor drive?). Hopefully they have a relatively idiot-proof solution for the high voltage wiring. At the least you'll need to wire up a battery and charge port.


[8/25/2021 10:17 AM] andrew5152
lol @ the comments

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[8/25/2021 10:23 AM] andrew5152
wonder if mega-zilla'd fit in a fox body..
https://www.thedrive.com/news/37965/fords-mega-zilla-an-even-more-powerful-crate-engine-based-on-the-7-3l-godzilla-is-coming

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Ford Says More Powerful 'Megazilla' Version of 7.3L Godzilla V8 Cra...
It, too, should have no problems fitting in a Fox-body Mustang—or a modern one, for that matter.
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[8/25/2021 10:24 AM] andrew5152
apparently

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[8/25/2021 12:20 PM] nullinterface
A company called AC Propulsion (who develeoped a lot of the technology that Tesla mainstreamed) had a 'crate motor' of sorts more than 20 years ago that was more or less a turnkey kit to convert a range of vehicles to EV - basically the drivetrain while you DIY'ed the battery pack

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[8/25/2021 12:21 PM] nullinterface
1994 in fact


[8/25/2021 12:22 PM] nullinterface
https://www.acpropulsion.com/index.php/about-us/management


[8/25/2021 12:26 PM] nullinterface
no one misses the era of EV chargers being *actual* chargers with all that cost and complexity while the motor controller could manage all that with some modest tweaks


[8/25/2021 12:53 PM] quattroquattro
I'd love to put an ev motor in an old MGB or triumph spitfire. All the English style with none of the oil leaks and unreliability.

And yes, I'd also replace all the Lucas electric first. I don't want to burn the thing down


[8/25/2021 4:30 PM] nullinterface
if you're swapping the powertrain, not a whole lot more work to remove all the other remaining electrics

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[8/30/2021 6:01 PM] nullinterface
for all the raging fanboys and the brodozers' gnashing of teeth, it seems that electric 18-wheelers are becoming a thing *(albeit with certain limitations)*
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-freightliner-ecascadia-class-8-semi-truck-first-drive/

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[9/4/2021 2:41 PM] slinkygn
@ESmith that's just because you don't own Expert Brakes


[9/4/2021 2:41 PM] slinkygn
You're probably still rolling on some of those old school disc brakes or such


[9/4/2021 2:41 PM] slinkygn
boooooring


[9/4/2021 3:56 PM] nullinterface
no front/rear *bifurcation* on my vehicles with such a 'brake'


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[9/10/2021 7:01 PM] andrew5152
OK. Admitting to not being one of the few. What the hell? 3 wheels. Van front. Makes me thing Piaggio Ape. But that doesn't really look right. Also, don't think I've ever seen the tires ON the wheels whilst on the sprue... 😕


[9/10/2021 8:04 PM] nullinterface
ah, but you *do* get the reference


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[9/25/2021 12:56 PM] nullinterface
At a loss to understand the value proposition there


[9/25/2021 1:32 PM] themitch22
Do people in the oil field still have that disposable income? Or it's the owner of the construction contracting company.


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[9/25/2021 5:50 PM] themitch22
He went from the Lincoln Lawyer to Lincoln spokesperson


[10/6/2021 8:18 PM] nullinterface
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[10/7/2021 12:18 AM] canibalcrab
who keeps stealing the fittings off of the air tools

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[10/7/2021 2:06 AM] slinkygn
are they stealing or are they moving? (and if they're moving, where the eff did they find any plumber's tape)


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[10/7/2021 8:53 AM] skyspook
@yashsedai  - mind grabbing some fittings next time you're doing some order? I bet some red locktite might help 😉


[10/7/2021 10:56 PM] slinkygn
☝️aaactually not the worst idea I've heard, especially when we're talking about the cheaper tools like in the photo where it's not a big loss if we can't easily break them loose for one purpose or another. I imagine red loctite and Teflon tape/pipe dope are probably incompatible, but some sort of method of affixing them permanently - why not


[10/7/2021 10:56 PM] slinkygn
Somebody get Tim over here, he'll take care of it 😁


[10/7/2021 10:57 PM] slinkygn
You'll need a bench grinder to get them off once he's done with them


[10/8/2021 11:02 AM] nullinterface
way too satisfying watching the driver of a badly-lowered G35 sneer at me as they make the turn into a driveway and audibly bottom out.  ***stanced**, brah*.

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[10/8/2021 11:33 AM] michaelb5250
Thanks for reminding me to order a new underbody cover..

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[10/8/2021 5:54 PM] canibalcrab
I guess that's one way to do it


[10/8/2021 6:02 PM] skyspook
Must be a Chevrolet - "like a rock"


[10/9/2021 1:24 AM] redbeardedpirate
today i was like where the fuck are all the jack stands. left the space. saw the trailer. nice, someone is fixing the trailer tire. ty to that person.


[10/9/2021 1:27 AM] canibalcrab
I think a bunch of the jack stands were the HFT ones that got recalled, trashed but never replaced probably


[10/9/2021 1:27 AM] redbeardedpirate
they were under the trailer by the corner of the building


[10/9/2021 1:27 AM] redbeardedpirate
or at least like 5 or 6 were


[10/9/2021 1:27 AM] redbeardedpirate
not saying, they're not recalled, just saying they're also under a trailer lol


[10/9/2021 1:28 AM] redbeardedpirate
i used the 22 ton jack stands on a miata. they worked-ish


[10/9/2021 1:32 AM] canibalcrab
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[10/9/2021 1:32 AM] canibalcrab
at least they weren't missing


[10/9/2021 1:32 AM] redbeardedpirate
lol


[10/9/2021 1:32 AM] redbeardedpirate
there's no kill like overkill


[10/9/2021 8:13 AM] yashsedai
We got rid of all the hf jackstands


[10/9/2021 8:14 AM] yashsedai
We have 4x of this https://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200683087_200683087?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Automotive%20%3E%20Jacks&utm_campaign=ESCO&utm_content=60731&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-4SLBhCVARIsACrhWLVErmHq-TPKO1Tg1NaevM72poPHXBn4TQ3y1RIyFqDKMKwoB6uqBDsaAoZkEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


[10/12/2021 4:41 PM] slinkygn
Suggestion for parts washer replacement: https://youtu.be/ssaNTgwY8zE

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[10/12/2021 4:41 PM] slinkygn
(insert "Tim the Tool Man Taylor" grunting noises here)


[10/13/2021 12:06 PM] aceat64
If I had one of these I'd go spend a day in a junk yard lol


[10/14/2021 11:20 AM] kenpurcell
Great for making carbon paper into regular paper


[10/18/2021 10:58 AM] slinkygn
OK, I may need something explained to me, might be being dense...


[10/18/2021 10:58 AM] slinkygn
https://www.ebay.com/itm/114279905530 https://www.ebay.com/itm/114040558183

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New  Starter Brush Holder for Bosch V.W PMGR 12V
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for New  Starter Brush Holder for Bosch V.W PMGR 12V at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
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New  Starter Brush Holder for Bosch 12V CCW - 69-9112
19661 32613 32675 32678 32687 32735.
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[10/18/2021 10:59 AM] slinkygn
Clockwise vs counterclockwise versions of... a brush holder?


[10/18/2021 10:59 AM] slinkygn
(wired with brushes, obvs, but still)


[10/18/2021 10:59 AM] slinkygn
it's got one wire. The other "connection" is the armature.  Why would the brushes care whether it's going clockwise or counterclockwise?


[10/18/2021 11:00 AM] slinkygn
(this is for a starter rebuild, obvs)


[10/18/2021 5:03 PM] slinkygn
I guess I could maybe ask this in Electronics or machine shop too, since it's fundamentally really just an electric motor question more than specifically an automotive one, even if it is for a starter.


[10/18/2021 6:46 PM] andrew5152
as I understand (not really...) it isn't the brushes that care, it's the fact that the housing is always ground (-), so to reverse the polarity, the brushes are offset a scosche differently for CCW vs. CW... I'm not finding a reference for how many degrees, but...some...

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[10/18/2021 6:52 PM] slinkygn
That does make sense.


[10/18/2021 6:54 PM] andrew5152
this is the best "reference" I've found in a few minutes of searching and...um...well...it leaves some to be desired...

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[10/18/2021 6:55 PM] andrew5152
https://www.smokstak.com/forum/threads/12-volt-dc-starter-direction-change.78928/


[10/18/2021 7:55 PM] andrew5152
hm. fascinating. Despite using 'reverse rotation' motors for starting many marine reverse-rotation engines, nobody seems to be interested in how to accomplish this *and* documenting it for me to bumble across...
I'd actually ne'er bothered to look into how automotive starters are wired, and never noticed that simply hooking up a negative earth starter as positive earth still turns the same way due to the armature and coil being wired in series.... So to make them spin in reverse, the brushes are wired, as far as I can tell, 90degrees off from those which spin "the other way"... Interesting... Still can't find anything good on Golf Cart starters/generators, either, but I'm pretty sure they use the reverse switch to alter the brushes in a similar way, causing the unit to spin "the other way".. fascinating indeed...
these guys say 180*... https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reverse-rotation-starter-motor-283320/

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[10/18/2021 10:37 PM] slinkygn
Well, the two brush holders posted are definitely not wired 90 degrees off from each other... I wonder if perhaps they don't have representative photos.  All that companies' items seem to have unique photos, so I doubt they're just "stock," but they may have photos of items mixed up or such.
I was thinking you meant they could just be a few degrees off, but 90 would definitely be visible in photos.


[10/19/2021 2:50 PM] nullinterface
random: new fedex vehicles sound like turbodiesels ... unexpected for a breadbox van


[10/19/2021 2:59 PM] yashsedai
vroom vroom


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[10/20/2021 2:55 PM] slinkygn
Well, I guess we'll have a "for funsies" test available in a few days.  The reason I asked is that I'd accidentally ordered the brush holder spec'd for the CCW model rather than the CW model -- different PNs, so they're "different," I guess, but the photos definitely don't show a 90deg displacement.  Fortunately I really only need the (impossible to find alone) brushes, not the holder as the one I have is fine, so I can just move the brushes, but in the meanwhile I can do some measurements of both and perhaps even try the starter on the bench with both.  (Doesn't have to work any time soon 🙂 replacing mine w/a junkyard part, warrantied vs DOA, so figured I'd fix my old one up as a backup.)

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[10/20/2021 2:57 PM] slinkygn
Or if anybody prefers I could bring it to the space and more folks than just myself can toy around with it.


[10/20/2021 2:57 PM] andrew5152
the photos show a 180 degree displacement 🤣

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[10/20/2021 2:58 PM] andrew5152
(rofl b/c as far as I can tell from the pics, it appears the people said "this one is rotated 180" and so the photographer placed it backside up in one of the pics... not sure which...)


[10/20/2021 2:58 PM] slinkygn
lol


[10/20/2021 2:59 PM] andrew5152
got me to wondering...IF all I needed was a 180 degree rotation to accomplish said task AND I could actually bolt that in place, make the connections...would that accomplish it?


[10/20/2021 3:00 PM] slinkygn
they're definitely 180deg off of each other


[10/20/2021 3:00 PM] slinkygn
...if you're going by which direction the ground spade is pointing

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[10/20/2021 3:00 PM] slinkygn
CRITICAL component


[10/20/2021 3:02 PM] slinkygn
huh. Now that I'm looking more carefully at it, *literally* the difference between the two PNs might be only the size of the bolt that the spade is supposed to go over.  Wow.


[10/20/2021 3:04 PM] slinkygn
I mean, makes sense, I guess -- obviously a CW Bosch starter and a CCW Bosch starter might be super similar in construction but will definitely go on VERY different cars, so the ground point is going to be the one significant difference.  But still.  These are all inexpensive parts, but one is still double the price of the other.  (And I found out later that the part# that *actually* goes to my car, also seemingly identical, is double the price of *that*.)


[10/20/2021 3:05 PM] slinkygn
$6, $11, $20


[10/20/2021 3:05 PM] slinkygn
for four brushes, four springs, four rubber grommets, a little copper braiding and a piece of stamped steel


[10/20/2021 3:06 PM] andrew5152
yep. $0.50 worth of carbon, steel, and rubber


[10/20/2021 3:06 PM] andrew5152
gotta be in all the right places, though


[10/20/2021 3:06 PM] slinkygn
yup. And probably around that in copper, in fairness, but still.


[10/20/2021 3:08 PM] slinkygn
And I dig that there's expertise to all the right places.  I basically make a living as the guy that gets to charge because he knew where to hit the thing with the hammer.  But the differentiation in price for the same part going into largely the same set of parts is a little 👀


[10/20/2021 3:08 PM] andrew5152
yep


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[11/28/2021 7:31 PM] engpin1964
Fixed it !!


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[11/28/2021 7:33 PM] yashsedai
Lolol


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[12/12/2021 11:48 PM] yashsedai
Lol


[12/13/2021 7:36 AM] andrew5152
so THAT'S where all the li'l buggers are hiding!


[12/13/2021 7:38 AM] nullinterface
but of course as soon as someone lays eyes on that cabinet again they'll all be gone


[12/28/2021 6:22 PM] nullinterface
Goddamn.  Just saw a Rivian.


[12/28/2021 6:35 PM] doug.emes
bunchofthem in Phoenix


[12/28/2021 7:00 PM] nullinterface
Best figure I can find is that they expect to deliver 1000 this year


[12/28/2021 7:06 PM] nullinterface
<200 delivered as of Nov 2


[12/28/2021 9:57 PM] engpin1964
Well this is my project for the night

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[12/28/2021 10:03 PM] themitch22
Great color


[12/28/2021 10:22 PM] engpin1964
Yeah it’s a fun ride


[12/28/2021 10:22 PM] engpin1964
1962 Cadillac


[1/2/2022 10:34 PM] nullinterface
saw the Rivian again today.  guess they trek north on 2499 regularly.


[1/2/2022 10:34 PM] canibalcrab
I like the truck


[1/2/2022 10:35 PM] canibalcrab
I hear the Amazon vans are rolling out too


[1/2/2022 10:35 PM] themitch22
EV trucks are the future IMO, I'd buy one if I could afford one


[1/2/2022 10:35 PM] nullinterface
you can spot that grille at night immediately


[1/2/2022 10:36 PM] themitch22
also incentivize working charging infrastructures but I'm asking too much.


[1/2/2022 10:48 PM] nullinterface
market for BEVs is presently residents of single-family detached homes with garages


[1/2/2022 10:49 PM] nullinterface
since that's something like 2/3 of the nation, I foresee the development of mass public charging outside of the likes of Tesla's network being a low-ish priority


[1/3/2022 8:41 AM] nullinterface
looks like a solid way to reduce friction

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[1/3/2022 12:16 PM] kenpurcell
Who needs the drum, just in the way!


[1/6/2022 6:50 PM] nullinterface
watch one video on fuel cell vehicles on youtube and now The Algorithms™ think I'm some sort of hydrogen enthusiast


[1/6/2022 6:55 PM] doug.emes
we are all hydrogen enthusiasts, just not necessarily H2 by itself.


[1/6/2022 6:55 PM] nullinterface
I'm a fan of dihydrogen monoxide myself


[1/6/2022 6:56 PM] doug.emes
and C8H10N4O2, among others


[1/6/2022 6:57 PM] nullinterface
without that chemical modern life would cease

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[1/7/2022 8:39 PM] engpin1964
Got to work on this 1964 imperial

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[1/22/2022 3:16 PM] nullinterface
that's some next-level diagnostics there

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[1/24/2022 10:21 AM] themitch22
Don't need to test exhaust emissions when the sensors read 0, an easy ECU flash


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[2/10/2022 11:40 PM] nullinterface
always fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8

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Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC
Jeremy takes the extreme sport of Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help keep the fabled three-wheeler upright.

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[2/10/2022 11:40 PM] nullinterface
although the (missing) leadup to the first crash made it all the funnier.  almost pissed myself first time I watched it.


[2/10/2022 11:42 PM] nullinterface
*(yes I gather that in typical* Top Gear *fashion they did some tweaking to make it more roll-happy.  for the lulz)*


[2/11/2022 7:20 AM] andrew5152
Classic.
Hilarious.
Scientific.
Pick 2.


[2/14/2022 11:36 PM] nullinterface
love it or hate it they got the reference down *solid*
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[2/18/2022 11:03 AM] bizwacky
Come on down for DMS's inaugural Cars & Cleanup. This is a world-class, multi-brand, multi-period automotive hangout, where we'll also perform dirty, menial labor to help keep our committee area clean, functional, and organized. Ford or Ferrari? Who gets to change the parts washer media? Tuner or Domestic? How should we keep our sockets organized? NASCAR or F1? Who left a gallon of used oil in this drip pan?

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[2/18/2022 11:03 AM] bizwacky
Thursday evening,  March 3rd, be there or be square-drive


[2/18/2022 11:04 AM] bizwacky
https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/17803


[2/18/2022 12:29 PM] nullinterface
app enabled?  Bluetooth + USB-C connectivity?


[2/18/2022 12:51 PM] bizwacky
Completely cloud based SaaS as a service

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[2/18/2022 1:26 PM] aceat64
Is there a socket organization system that's similar to how Dvorak is to qwerty?


[2/18/2022 1:26 PM] aceat64
Because that would be awful


[2/18/2022 1:31 PM] nullinterface
Dewey Decimal


[2/18/2022 3:32 PM] bizwacky
I think the Dvorak equivalent would be in order by size... but metric and imperial all together

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[2/18/2022 3:35 PM] canibalcrab
ew


[2/18/2022 4:54 PM] aceat64
The worst part about that is it actually makes a kind of sense


[2/18/2022 9:03 PM] michaelb5250
Tekton used to sell some socket sets that way. They'd just put both labels on the sockets that were virtually the same size.


[2/18/2022 11:34 PM] aceat64
and that makes sense and yet it feels wrong


[2/19/2022 12:51 AM] slinkygn
I think just about every consumer-level big tool brand might do that, tbh.  They'll do it with their spline/"universal" sets, from what I've seen.


[2/22/2022 7:42 AM] quattroquattro
In case anyone has some spare cash just laying around... https://www.thedrive.com/news/44368/an-entire-museum-of-pristine-vintage-trucks-is-for-sale

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An Entire Museum of Pristine Vintage Trucks Is for Sale
Trucks from 1906 to 1953, including a one-off 1915 Breeding, are in the catalog.
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[2/27/2022 2:19 PM] aceat64
anyone want 5 barely used but have been sitting in the shade stock Jeep JK wheels and tires?


[2/27/2022 2:19 PM] aceat64
I got them as spares from a guy like 4-5 years ago, was going to use them for a trailer or something but never got around to it


[2/27/2022 2:20 PM] aceat64
totally free btw


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[2/27/2022 2:22 PM] aceat64
just checked, they seem to be in ok condition too


[2/27/2022 2:52 PM] aceat64
and they've been claimed


[3/21/2022 6:17 PM] slinkygn
Little bit of a mess over here today, fyi


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[3/21/2022 6:18 PM] slinkygn
Also other less significant oily bits on ground. It's not terrible or anything, but it's not exactly cleaned up either. Just thought I'd report.


[3/21/2022 6:19 PM] slinkygn
Oh, and there was still a charge left on the AC manifold high side, but at this point I almost never bother mentioning that, happens so often


[3/21/2022 6:20 PM] slinkygn
(and harder to track, I'm sure)


[3/23/2022 1:18 AM] slinkygn
We don't have a set of these, right? https://www.amazon.com/Apeixoto-R1234YF-Condithoning-Remover-Pressure/dp/B08JGG9GKW/

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[3/23/2022 1:19 AM] slinkygn
nor anything with which to do refrigerant capture?  Pretty sure we have neither, but figured I'd make sure.


[3/27/2022 11:31 AM] kenpurcell


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[4/6/2022 7:21 PM] aceat64


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[4/6/2022 7:21 PM] aceat64
I'll cross post to talk in a sec, but this seems bad


[4/6/2022 7:33 PM] michaelb5250
The tank doesn't hold any pressure (you can raise/lower the lift with the cap off). The biggest concern is probably that we're one or two screws closer to dropping all the oil on the floor.


[4/6/2022 7:33 PM] aceat64
ok, that's what I figured (pressure-wise) but didn't want to test that theory


[4/6/2022 7:34 PM] aceat64
freddy is saying a new plastic tank is on order already


[5/5/2022 3:58 PM] bizwacky
Automotive cleanup day,  tonight,  come onnnnn downnnnn


[5/5/2022 3:58 PM] canibalcrab
aww yes just in time for me to plan on doing an oil change


[5/11/2022 4:54 PM] nullinterface


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[5/11/2022 4:58 PM] canibalcrab
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[5/11/2022 6:26 PM] andrew5152
.40....41...whatever it takes...


[5/23/2022 6:51 PM] aceat64


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[5/23/2022 6:51 PM] aceat64
just jeep(s that have been sitting for a few months) things


[5/23/2022 6:53 PM] aceat64
but I guess now I have use for all that tesa tape I bought lol


[5/23/2022 10:05 PM] kenpurcell
Is that the virgin rubber tape that seals to itself?


[5/23/2022 10:12 PM] aceat64
it's tape specifically for making wire harnesses


[5/23/2022 10:12 PM] aceat64
https://www.tesa.com/en-us/industry/tesa-sleeve-51036-pv7.html

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Double layer PET cloth Sleeve® for abrasion protection and enhanced harness flexibility in the automotive engine and passenger compartment
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[5/24/2022 1:24 AM] doug.emes
Thinking of maybe this? Butyl self amalgamation tape.  Not high heat safe. Great for waterproofing.  Good for cell towers, but we do a courtesy wrap of regular electrical tape 1st, then butyl


[6/8/2022 7:53 AM] nullinterface
https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-electric-f150-tesla-charging-adapter-troll-2022-6

totes not trolling.

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[6/8/2022 9:42 AM] andrew5152
also... it's a battery bank, not a generator, so...um...hmm... Anywho. Happy trolling the teslas, lightning boys! I'm wondering if the same adapter can be used to charge Lightnings off Teslas Supers and/or sapping your Tesla neighbor's battery over to your L... Kind of like high tech tire slashing...

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[6/8/2022 9:48 AM] nullinterface
appears the, eh, *first edition* Lightnings ship with all the gubbins necessary to recharge J1772-compatible EVs (in other words all EVs not Tesla) and a J1772 to Tesla plug adapter.  Won't allow Tesla to J1772 however, but I gather those components don't have to be exotic and are now useful now that Tesla is opening up their network to all EVs (or soon will?).


[6/8/2022 12:26 PM] jphelps
I was under the impression Tesla's do not support reverse charging. i.e they cannot be used to charge another vehicle of any kind or to power anything else for that matter.


[6/8/2022 1:00 PM] andrew5152
Yeah. Elon's got a tough decision: would allowing Tesla Motors to compete with e.g. Ford's Lightning/F-150 Hybrid "power the world" campaign be worth it, or eat into the Powerwall business too much.... 🤔  I'm betting he's already placed his shareholder's bets....


[6/8/2022 6:40 PM] nullinterface
This would be the F150 Lighting recharging another EV using its inbuilt generator function (i.e. a big inverter that can spit out 30A x 240V AC) going into a J1772 charger they provided to some quantity of 'first edition' Lightnings w/ a bonus J1772 plug >> Tesla plug adapter


[6/8/2022 6:43 PM] nullinterface
think it's only the top trim models that have the 30A x 240V capability as well.  other trims likely have lesser capability.  I'm reasonably confident they use *roughly* the same components for this as the F150 hybrid which has had the same option for some time now.


[6/8/2022 6:45 PM] nullinterface
Whether Tesla wants to make the changes to allow their vehicles to do similar is another matter.  Would make sense given that the >50kWH battery pack inside a Tesla could run a home all-out for most of a day - or many days with some conservation.


[6/8/2022 6:46 PM] nullinterface
There are some safety considerations the average homeowner would need to account for to ensure they don't backfeed into the grid


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[6/9/2022 9:59 PM] aceat64
There are too many wires in my Jeep


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[6/9/2022 9:59 PM] aceat64
So I took some out

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[6/9/2022 10:43 PM] andrew5152
who needs fuel infection or charging on a Jeep anyway?


[6/9/2022 11:06 PM] aceat64
And the intake filters are a series of high performance shop towels

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[6/9/2022 11:09 PM] andrew5152
so just to prove my ignorance, is that the factory mounting config on that alt?


[6/9/2022 11:42 PM] aceat64
yup and that's the original alt for mine


[6/9/2022 11:42 PM] aceat64
unlike the cruel bus, I didn't break this one


[6/10/2022 1:41 PM] nullinterface
https://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc?t=414

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Toyota Hilux Durability Test #1
The first of a 100,000 part series. How durable is a diesel hilux? Let’s put it under the most ABSURD tests and find out.
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[6/10/2022 1:47 PM] andrew5152
now I feel dirty for watching a bit o' WD


[6/10/2022 1:47 PM] nullinterface
the air that thing gets only to be slammed back into the ground...


[6/10/2022 1:48 PM] nullinterface
the same shameful pleasure as watching Ronnie Mac do it oh so wrong on a supercross bike


[6/10/2022 1:52 PM] nullinterface
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▶ Ronnie Mac GO RON GO!
Ron is back..
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[6/10/2022 1:57 PM] andrew5152
https://starstat.yt/ch/ronnie-mac-net-worth
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WhistlinDiesel Net Worth, Income & Earnings (2022)
WhistlinDiesel is  ▶️ YouTube channel created 7 years ago with 3.31M subscribers and 214 videos. WhistlinDiesel's current net worth is ...
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[6/10/2022 1:57 PM] andrew5152
I can't help but feel like I'm funding a L O  T more stupid with WD


[6/10/2022 1:58 PM] nullinterface
mayhaps


[6/10/2022 1:59 PM] nullinterface
neither is a high point of culture, arts, science


[6/13/2022 12:06 PM] nullinterface
I'm sure that Talk has greater reach than Discord, but FYI...
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/automotive-meeting-6-23-7pm/91634

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Automotive Meeting - 6/23 7PM
https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/18274  Hello All!  We are having a meeting to elect a new chair of automotive. I will not be running.  I will be proposing a new rule for the area - the re-institution of automotive 101 as an online class to gain access to the area, with the potential of requiring passing it once a year to mainta...
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[6/13/2022 12:12 PM] andrew5152
venn, o venn, wherefore hast thou overlap'd, venn?


[6/13/2022 1:14 PM] kenpurcell
Beware the Candy Van!

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[6/16/2022 7:24 AM] nullinterface


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[6/16/2022 7:24 AM] nullinterface
Chilton would also suffice


[6/16/2022 7:28 AM] andrew5152
Step 1: jack up the vehicle
Step 2: place on jack stands
Step 3: remove hood
Step 4: remove battery
Step 5: drink beer
Step 6:
Step 7: What?
Step 8: Get your own!
Step 9:


[6/16/2022 7:28 AM] andrew5152
I'm not sure how those apply to this vehicle, but I know those are the first 10 steps


[6/16/2022 7:28 AM] andrew5152
hopefully the jacking points are clearly labeled


[6/16/2022 7:29 AM] nullinterface
think that the old-school engine hoist will still be useful in the future for working on the old power loader


[6/16/2022 7:32 AM] andrew5152
does one work on that with it vertical, or does one, as one does with humanoids in general, make them first horizontal?


[6/16/2022 7:34 AM] nullinterface
I imagine vertical orientation since that's how the structural members handle the load


[6/16/2022 7:39 AM] andrew5152
that will make the old-school engine hoist a challenge in many ways...might need to add another component underneath...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0PgsAv5fAc

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Homemade Scissor Lift - Cool!
This is a homemade scissor lift that was given to us. The person who made it, used it to hold up cabinets during installation. Really a pretty cool invention!
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[6/16/2022 7:40 AM] nullinterface
sufficient for working on the lower chassis ... and the arms

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[6/16/2022 9:17 AM] nullinterface
Fun fact: Chilton was the initial publisher for *Dune*


[6/23/2022 11:27 AM] nullinterface
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/reminder-automotive-meeting-and-election-tonight-6-23/91885

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Reminder! Automotive meeting and election Tonight 6/23
Be there or be a flat tire - 7PM in lecture hall. Reminder that we are looking for a qualified chair - you don’t need to know a lot about cars (though it can help), you just need to have good judgement and be able to lead meetings.  To join the video meeting, click this link: https://meet.google.com/pmi-gyfj-nwr  Otherwise, to join by phone, dia...
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[6/24/2022 5:29 PM] nullinterface
Saw a Volkswagen ID.4 today it was remarkably unremarkable

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[6/24/2022 5:40 PM] nullinterface
My irrational disdain for VW may have played a role in being uninterested


[6/24/2022 5:50 PM] nullinterface
But yeah.  Saw the model badge, lack of a tailpipe, and that was it.  Looked a lot like any other crossover.


[6/24/2022 6:47 PM] andrew5152
Probably not. You'll have to look far & wide to finder a bigger fan of VW than I. But the id.4 is the (current) apogee of a long haul to shitty hondayota customer stealing mediocre abandonment of all things VW once did well. Alongside their other non-electric whatsit, the smaller whatsit, and the even smaller whatsit, and all the shittyuselessvehicles sold under nonVW marques by VW (Audi Q something, Q something else and Q something else in slightly small, bigger, bigger still and yet bigger, I think) and then the bently bensomething which I think only comes in 1 size...ugh. They all look just like Buicks, Chevys, Toyotas, Hondas, and all the other brickish pyles roaming the streets these days.
But yeah, love my Jetta. And my GTI. Loved the ones I had before them. And air cooler shows are the BEST. Shame, but apparently shitboxy is our future. And our future is electric. Shitboxy electric. A zillion copies, from all marques. 🥱


[6/27/2022 11:55 AM] nullinterface
I almost accidentally a GTI in 2017 when I was car shopping due to overeager salesperson whose primary language wasn't English


[6/27/2022 12:02 PM] nullinterface
but reality is that vehicle exterior design is approaching a number of *local minimums* since the combined masters of physics and regulation are harsh mistresses


[6/27/2022 12:04 PM] canibalcrab
I sure wish those regulations would do something. like headlight height


[6/27/2022 12:04 PM] canibalcrab
currently they just make everything samey


[6/27/2022 12:04 PM] nullinterface
and really, I can deal with the styling converging on the most efficient forms.  but the market's love of FWD and heavily dampened controls is killing me.  Got a loaner Subaru monstrosity when having the WRX serviced the other week and while being about as quick off the line it felt slow and uninteresting ... *and the WRX has a reputation as being a fast car that feels slow*


[6/27/2022 12:06 PM] andrew5152
I keep hoping for a rebellion; someone manufactures 1955 chebbies with carbbed 289s, drum brakes, and "DAMN THE TORPEDOES" stickers on both sides for $4k. Goes like hotcakes, and the Fed can't shut them down fast enough to stop the rush of purchasers...
sadly, we just get more and more regulations, shittier and shittier product, and we keep willingly paying more and more for it.


[6/27/2022 12:08 PM] nullinterface
the shift to crossovers basically added ~10k to sticker without a proportional increase in production cost

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[6/27/2022 12:09 PM] andrew5152
which having said, I love my bog-bottom VW 1.4 TSi. That thing's a friggin' monster. 160HP out of 1.4l was ground-breaking in 1992 (srsly, that was the 300ZX Turbo's claim to fame: 100HP/l) in a yawn-inspiring package that works very well. Mostly possible through turbos, synth oil, advanced computer power, and direct injection, none of which we had 20 years ago, so... YAY.


[6/27/2022 12:11 PM] andrew5152
and the pandemic/happenings over the last 2 years appears to have done the same again. If I bought a car like mine today, it would cost nearly double (and if I'd bought that same car just before the pandemic, it would have cost the same as I paid 2 years earlier).


[6/27/2022 12:42 PM] nullinterface
I fully expect my next vehicle to be electric, however nothing has particularly struck my fancy just yet.  TSLA appeals on the surface, but service delivery doesn't seem to be a strength of theirs and build quality remains multiple-choice.


[6/27/2022 12:43 PM] nullinterface
the *controlled fall* into the WRX - and complimentary levering back to standing egress - is not something I relish in subsequent vehicles


[6/27/2022 12:44 PM] andrew5152
this will only be true for me due to the abysmal shitboxen the market has to offer...the Model 4 accelerating harder than anything else out there is the leading force on that front (can't shift anything any more; they all look the same; sound like crap due to noise regs...sigh)


[6/27/2022 12:46 PM] nullinterface
I can appreciate sound, but also lack the sharp nostalgia for it.  If it can move satisfyingly while making - different/less/no - sound that's fine.


[6/27/2022 12:47 PM] nullinterface
Enough cretins out there with sh_t exhausts blipping the throttle on nearby streets that I'm approaching GET OFF MY LAWN when it comes to sound


[6/27/2022 12:48 PM] canibalcrab
that's me all the time now


[6/27/2022 12:49 PM] andrew5152
I still relish a good sounding exhaust (rare they're being "blipped"- I get that sentiment!)


[6/27/2022 12:50 PM] nullinterface
blipping is more of a motorcycle thing.  revving.  in fkn automatics at that.


[6/27/2022 12:52 PM] andrew5152
fart canon? check
underdeck leds? check
fake fender vent stickers? check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaJUW5GV8LQ

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Don't Laugh or Smile
Don't Laugh or Smile
racecar sound
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[6/27/2022 3:23 PM] nullinterface
not far off from the sounds of a supersport/superbike/GP motorcycle race


[6/27/2022 9:57 PM] kenpurcell
Fart cans galore! Ffffffarrrrtt, fffffaaarrrtttt. You made it up to 30mph, good for you!

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[6/28/2022 5:07 PM] bizwacky
The WRX is worryingly close to a stock fart can IMO. I think they tried a little too hard to make the 4 cylinder sound deep


[6/28/2022 5:08 PM] bizwacky
You should get an egolf, practical, handles OK,  lots of torque,  VW badge. Wanna buy mine?


[6/28/2022 5:12 PM] bizwacky
Friendly remind that our cleanup day is next Thursday, July 7th. We’ve got a big wish list of things to get done so if you can make it, we’d appreciate it.

I’m also planning on hosting a few rounds of auto auction price-is-right. There will be prizes!

Calling all gearheads of discord,  please PM me your favorite sold cars from Bring A Trailer, Cars and Bids, etc. I’d like to get a fun list.


[6/28/2022 5:26 PM] andrew5152
Probably would have if they'd been remotely competitive to drive, but last I was looking for another vehicle,  zero were available (new) in Texas... so,  happily still don't know how they drive,  and haven't had to get a charger installed on a wall in the garage where I don't want one.


[6/28/2022 5:29 PM] nullinterface
Best I can tell pretty much noone loves the sound of Subaru boxer engines


[6/28/2022 5:30 PM] bizwacky
Next time you're at the space you can take mine out,  pretty much just drives like a golf but the instant torque is fun,  can light the front wheels on command

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[6/28/2022 5:31 PM] bizwacky
I do love the bugeye, you just need an intake so you hear nothing but induction noise and blow off valve


[6/28/2022 5:31 PM] nullinterface
pretty sure there's no blow off valve on the 2.0 engine


[6/28/2022 5:34 PM] bizwacky
Yeah you're probably right,  at least on the 3 stock ones left in the world


[6/28/2022 5:34 PM] nullinterface
wow.  I own a *1 of X*.

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[6/28/2022 5:34 PM] bizwacky
My buddy's had a whole front mount intercooler...


[6/28/2022 5:34 PM] nullinterface
ultra-unrare


[6/28/2022 5:34 PM] bizwacky
That wasn't plumbed in to anything

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[6/28/2022 7:42 PM] andrew5152
Not so. I love then for their "not av8 and not a honda"-Ness. Too bad  Subie's "fixed" that with equal length exhausts nowadays...


[7/21/2022 7:04 AM] nullinterface
A for effort?

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[7/21/2022 9:29 AM] bizwacky
Lol,  that must be what happens if you run into those 18 wheeler wheel spikes


[7/27/2022 9:31 AM] adam1334
Can't be tight if it's a liquid.  Of course you'll also need to replace your bearings, but at some point...

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[7/27/2022 1:53 PM] andrew5152
classic case of bringing an axe to a torchfight?


[7/28/2022 6:24 PM] nullinterface


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[8/4/2022 1:27 PM] nullinterface
LOL

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[8/4/2022 1:32 PM] canibalcrab
yeah it's insane


[8/4/2022 1:34 PM] bizwacky
I think the dealer markup includes a free Honda civic


[8/4/2022 1:35 PM] themitch22
Yet I see so many new Broncos on the street. Someone is still buying them


[8/4/2022 1:37 PM] themitch22
BTW Ford Maverick order banks are delayed until September, they were supposed to be this or next week.


[8/4/2022 1:37 PM] themitch22
I'm just trying to get a base model for msrp


[8/4/2022 1:38 PM] canibalcrab
you can order them for MSRP and flip them after like 10k miles for more than you paid


[8/4/2022 1:39 PM] themitch22
Yeah but I actually just want to truck, I'm not scalping cars

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[8/4/2022 1:39 PM] canibalcrab
the dealer markup on anything right now is an extra slap in the face after having to deal with used car salesman


[8/4/2022 1:39 PM] themitch22
It's freaking awful


[8/4/2022 1:39 PM] themitch22
Carvana isn't helping, they just make it easier for you to pay way too much for a used car


[8/4/2022 1:39 PM] canibalcrab
I have spent my July learning that salesmen don't like when you know more about the car you are looking for than they do


[8/4/2022 1:40 PM] canibalcrab
carvana is in trouble right now


[8/4/2022 1:40 PM] themitch22
Are you going to get another FJ?


[8/4/2022 1:40 PM] canibalcrab
I was trying


[8/4/2022 1:40 PM] themitch22
They probably jacked the price up


[8/4/2022 1:40 PM] canibalcrab
so far I've just been lied to a lot


[8/4/2022 1:41 PM] themitch22
Sounds about right


[8/4/2022 1:41 PM] canibalcrab
"it's a good car no accidents"

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[8/4/2022 1:41 PM] themitch22
You'd think Toyota dealers would be better since it's Toyota


[8/4/2022 1:42 PM] canibalcrab
vandergriff Toyota was one of the worst


[8/4/2022 1:43 PM] themitch22
Car dealership model needs to go away.


[8/4/2022 1:44 PM] canibalcrab
yeah I'd agree


[8/4/2022 1:46 PM] themitch22
My Mini Cooper was sold to my dad to give to my sister, it's probably going to last well over 200k mi. We are definitely a drive it until the wheels fall off or it's totalled family.


[8/4/2022 4:03 PM] nullinterface
> ~~the dealer markup on anything right now is an extra~~ slap in the face after having to deal with ~~used~~ car salesman
FTFY


[8/4/2022 4:06 PM] nullinterface
in 2017 when I was car shopping I went to Rusty Wallis VW to look at a GTI.  salesman was perhaps overeager - and didn't speak English as a primary language - and interpreted my request for firm pricing as intent to buy.  So I walked over to what I thought was the financing guy to give me a ballpark invoice price and he starts off with *"let's get the paperwork done so you can drive out of here in your **new** car"*.  

Thus I almost **accidentally** a new VW.  I should have told the manager to get wrecked when he tried to 'save' ... then guilt me into ... the sale.


[8/4/2022 4:07 PM] nullinterface
and also what was I thinking - VW is kinda trrbl on the maintenance side


[8/11/2022 12:46 AM] hardsuit
Astrud and I stumbled on to a 2008 Honda Fit with only 14,000 miles and clean repair/maintenance records a couple months ago out of pure luck. I'm positive if we hadn't driven to the dealership that same evening it would have been gone the next morning to someone else.


[8/11/2022 12:47 AM] canibalcrab
damn did they forget it in a warehouse?


[8/11/2022 12:47 AM] hardsuit
It was one of those proverbial "old person only drove it on Sundays to church" kind of deals, except for real.


[8/11/2022 12:48 AM] canibalcrab
that was my buick century too


[8/11/2022 12:48 AM] canibalcrab
except my grandma only drove it to the corner to get smokes


[8/11/2022 12:49 AM] hardsuit
We're thinking it was a secondary car for an older couple or something. Carfax maintenance records have it not evrn getting 1k miles per year after 2018


[8/11/2022 12:49 AM] hardsuit
Regular oil changes/scheduled maintenance though


[8/11/2022 12:50 AM] hardsuit
So we're now a double Honda Fit household

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[8/12/2022 9:14 PM] nullinterface
Osram.  Hella.  NHK.  2 reflectors, 9 LED chips and 1 laser tube.  Does it also support USB-PD and have an app?

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[8/12/2022 10:01 PM] themitch22
I did an xenon projector retrofit once, it was neat to learn about headlight design.


[8/12/2022 10:29 PM] andrew5152
active/adaptive headlights are friggin' awesome!
https://www.motor1.com/news/567740/adaptive-headlights-nhtsa-approval/

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Adaptive LED Headlights Finally Get NHTSA Approval In The US
A decades-old technicality kept advanced adaptive headlights from being offered in the US, but that's now over after the NHTSA approved use.
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[8/13/2022 10:08 AM] nullinterface
I've long kicked around the idea of doing a retrofit on the Ranger; its stock headlights are trrbl


[8/13/2022 10:09 AM] nullinterface
the cool kids still stick to HID however LED projectors have come a long way and don't eat bulbs+ballasts


[8/13/2022 10:59 AM] bizwacky
I've heard the morimoto kits led kits are nice


[8/13/2022 10:59 AM] andrew5152
All the cool kids I hang around do LED...HID had a brief moment in the sun,  but to my knowledge,  it's done. But I'm not exactly known for my cool,  so maybe I'm wrong


[8/13/2022 11:22 AM] nullinterface
one of the facebook groups I linger in is all about that HID retrofit action


[8/13/2022 1:11 PM] nullinterface
and they do have a (nearly literal) point: a HID arc is a very small nearly point source of light that's far easier to focus than the literal plane of LED


[8/13/2022 2:30 PM] themitch22
The morimoto h1 kit I think is what I used. 
 https://imgur.com/a/X7ROR

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MINI Cooper R56 projector HID retrofit
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[8/13/2022 2:30 PM] themitch22
I used RTV and cut the halogen reflectors


[8/13/2022 2:30 PM] nullinterface
H1 is popular because it's inexpensive and I recall can slot into almost anywhere


[8/13/2022 2:31 PM] nullinterface
I recall a downside is less output due to smaller optics


[8/13/2022 2:32 PM] themitch22
The issue I had was the HID ballast would mess up with the halogen power and it would flicker the lights which was really bad


[8/13/2022 2:33 PM] themitch22
And the canbus error eliminator to prevent bulb out warnings


[8/13/2022 2:33 PM] nullinterface
CAN bus is a finicky thing


[8/13/2022 2:33 PM] themitch22
LEDs might be better since it's less current draw or EMI


[8/13/2022 2:34 PM] themitch22
I kind of miss the old Cooper S I had but the engine problems would have totalled it easily


[8/13/2022 2:36 PM] nullinterface
LEDs have the benefit of low-voltage DC operation and don't spit out stray UV


[8/13/2022 2:40 PM] themitch22
My current xenons have auto leveling but I think the sensor or actuator broke


[8/13/2022 2:41 PM] nullinterface
Maybe I'll do the Ranger someday.  Probably need to fix its other ailments first.


[8/18/2022 9:38 PM] nullinterface
that'll make the brakes last almost forever

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[8/20/2022 11:55 AM] slinkygn
Debating a repair vs replace for a caliper.  Needs a new piston, it's been running for a bit on a car without a pad (!sigh).  But the car also has >310k miles on it, and I just don't know that I want to mess with one that old and whatever random issues it may have when I actually get into it.  Opinions?


[8/20/2022 11:56 AM] slinkygn
Interestingly, it doesn't seem to be leaking *at all*, which makes me wonder if it's been repaired/replaced in its recent (recent in the context of 310k mi) past.  But no service history available at all, so no idea.


[8/20/2022 1:03 PM] slinkygn
also - let's say 1 to 10 scale - how bad an idea would it likely be to just slap a pair of pads on it for now for the purpose of it being *somewhat* safely drivable for a week while parts come in?


[8/20/2022 1:45 PM] andrew5152
If the "extra" wear is even (won't put abnormal load on the pads),  I say just put in pads and drive it.

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[8/20/2022 4:19 PM] slinkygn
Thank ya!


[8/21/2022 10:55 PM] nullinterface


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[8/22/2022 8:33 AM] kenpurcell
Did you really want to go in and look at antiques anyway? Dog Mode it is!


[8/26/2022 10:03 AM] nullinterface
internet is losing its collective mind on this.  receiving little mention is that the anticipated regulations from CARB are premised on an *executive order* rather than *legislation* like in WA state, thus - barring any other enabling legislation - is even less likely to hit its milestones because of litigation on the generally weaker powers of executive orders and rulemaking.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/08/california-calls-time-on-internal-combustion-engines-from-2035/

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[8/26/2022 11:57 AM] themitch22
Guess it's time to start up an EV charger business in California. How hard could that be


[8/26/2022 12:37 PM] andrew5152
don't forget the battery backups for uninterrupted business during rolling black/brownouts


[8/26/2022 1:44 PM] nullinterface
CA's "public safety" blackouts are related to PG&Es decision that paying dividends was more important than maintaining infrastructure


[8/26/2022 1:45 PM] nullinterface
I gather they've cleaned house in upper management and are working diligently to rectify, however it's *decades* of backlog they've got to clear


[8/27/2022 10:39 AM] nullinterface
Meanwhile, the public L2 chargers at the grocery store by my house seem *lonely*

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[8/27/2022 10:40 AM] nullinterface
Probably because 6-10kW charging isn't very exciting when you're at a destination with perhaps a 30 minute duration


[8/27/2022 10:43 AM] michaelb5250
It seems like that would make up for energy used driving to the store.


[8/27/2022 11:33 AM] nullinterface
The value proposition just seems marginal


[8/27/2022 11:37 AM] nullinterface
and they're cagey on rates
https://support.voltacharging.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge

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[8/27/2022 12:02 PM] bizwacky
Volta is the weird moviepass-esque one I think


[8/27/2022 12:02 PM] bizwacky
It's free for the business to put them in and free to charge


[8/27/2022 12:02 PM] bizwacky
Killer business model


[8/27/2022 12:02 PM] nullinterface
free to the user makes more sense


[8/27/2022 12:03 PM] nullinterface
but still ... that strip mall *ain't no destination* so you're not going to recover much range at their published 6-10kW L2 rates in the <30 minutes you're apt to spend there


[8/27/2022 12:04 PM] nullinterface
I suspect it's so low because free and because they piggybacked off of the light standard wiring to cut their installation costs


[8/27/2022 12:05 PM] bizwacky
Yeah,  I've used them at movie theaters which makes some sense,  honestly with the modern cars you have enough range you basically never need to level 2 except at home or work


[8/27/2022 12:05 PM] bizwacky
With my paltry battery I find them useful sometimes


[8/27/2022 12:11 PM] nullinterface
At least J1772 is *the* standard for everyone but TSLA, and for them there's always the option of an adapter


[8/27/2022 3:48 PM] themitch22
The smart choice would be to have charging stations at places people actually park like office lots, apartments, etc. I think the biggest issue will be power distribution and maintenance.


[8/27/2022 5:29 PM] nullinterface
I recall a big hooplah about Blink installing stations at Verizon's local HQ ~8 years ago


[8/27/2022 6:51 PM] themitch22
Hidden Ridge?


[8/27/2022 6:51 PM] nullinterface
yeah


[8/27/2022 6:52 PM] themitch22
would only have mattered for people that could afford them back then


[8/27/2022 6:52 PM] themitch22
so definitely not my department


[8/27/2022 6:53 PM] themitch22
but that's the issue, charging stations will end up in the high end areas where $35k car people shop and work.


[8/27/2022 7:07 PM] nullinterface
pretty sure that $35k was the median new car price *before the pandemic*


[8/27/2022 7:07 PM] nullinterface
I gather that public L2 chargers are becoming common-ish at apartment complexes in the region


[8/27/2022 7:10 PM] nullinterface
looks like 2018 was when average new car price hit $35k
https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-car-price/

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[8/28/2022 1:55 PM] nullinterface
I guess it does get used

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[8/28/2022 2:32 PM] nullinterface
guessing that a J1772 adaptor is becoming standard issue for Tesla drivers


[8/30/2022 8:15 PM] excalbian
Speaking of J1772 - anyone know why the J1772 at DMS is only doing like 1kw (vs 6+ typical)?


[9/11/2022 9:45 PM] nullinterface
No idea but one wonders if that's the maximum safe current it will deliver without full negotiation with the EV


[9/11/2022 11:23 PM] dryad2b
That is a good question.  I forgot that you'd asked earlier.  I had heard that, in the early days, William Petefish had loaned us one of his chargers, but it doesn't seem like anybody is paying attention to them anymore.  Is it @Skyspook , who's the current chair of automotive?


[9/12/2022 6:39 AM] andrew5152
Yes, but this is infra. not that it really matters, since Justin is integral to both. It's not that anyone is or isn't paying attention, so much as there are other fish to fry, and this one (the EV chargers in general) might be...let's call it "less favorite'. I'm sure if someone wanted to pitch in at a feverish pace all chairs and the board would be supportive, but I think right now the volunteer hours are simply allocated elsewhere and/or the issue is not perceived as "big impact".  Also, several of our regulars in auto and motorsports are also regulars in EV charging, and they don't seem to think these are all that impactful to their use/enjoyment, so that helps fuel the backburnering of the situation (all IMO, of course).

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[9/13/2022 3:56 PM] andrew5152
geebus...


[9/13/2022 8:05 PM] limeytx
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[9/18/2022 11:00 AM] nullinterface
my experience whenever I have to suffer said genre...

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[9/18/2022 4:33 PM] themitch22
Mini Cooper/Miata includes all three


[9/18/2022 8:24 PM] kenpurcell
Weird how reliable isn't even on the chart


[9/18/2022 8:33 PM] themitch22
only a subset of Japanese brands would fall on any of those with reliable


[9/18/2022 8:34 PM] themitch22
the crossover thing to me is just an evolution of minivans


[9/19/2022 10:54 AM] nullinterface
*Car guy* perspective doesn't put much premium on 'reliable'


[9/19/2022 10:54 AM] nullinterface
also, 'unreliable' by 2020s standards still beats the dogsnot out of the most reliable vehicles of 20 years ago


[9/19/2022 10:55 AM] nullinterface
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[9/19/2022 10:56 AM] kenpurcell
Can't wait until the chip shortage hits people with 2 year old cars that need a new board.


[9/19/2022 10:57 AM] nullinterface
eh, I gather the industry's shortsightedness in allowing the 90/45nm lines to shut down has forced a migration to drop-in compatible designs based on new-ish 16nm processes


[9/19/2022 1:37 PM] themitch22
We could go back to carbeuraturs and relays


[9/19/2022 1:38 PM] themitch22
Most people would even know what to do with a flooded carb


[9/19/2022 1:44 PM] canibalcrab
I mean


[9/19/2022 1:44 PM] canibalcrab
that's kinda like saying we should go back to dos prompts for all our PC use


[9/19/2022 1:45 PM] canibalcrab
people wouldn't know how to do it because there's been improvements in how it gets used


[9/19/2022 2:16 PM] nullinterface
on every forum that discusses cars there's the one guy preaching about the 'timeless' virtues of mechanical non-turbo diesels because "they don't need chips" and will "survive an EMP"


[9/19/2022 2:16 PM] nullinterface
nevermind that modern ECUs are pretty damned hardened and to the extent these things can be tested they've done quite well


[9/19/2022 2:17 PM] nullinterface
also, the flipside of "easier to work on" is the general obligation to work on them much more often


[9/21/2022 8:16 AM] jphelps
Significant EMP events suggest to me there will be a lot fewer people around to drive any turbo diesels.  But hey, glass half empty vs full I guess.

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[9/21/2022 9:48 AM] nullinterface
a couple hours mobility after whatever event likely won't amount to much unless you're got a hardcore primitive homesteading setup going


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[9/21/2022 11:12 PM] bizwacky
Oh yeah when you do your oil don't forget a new spark plug filter


[9/21/2022 11:12 PM] nullinterface
got to clean up that spark


[9/22/2022 8:10 AM] kenpurcell
Dirty electricity robs you of extra mileage.

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[10/9/2022 7:29 PM] nullinterface
good thinking

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[10/12/2022 4:05 PM] nullinterface
hashtag-maliciouscompliance

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[10/20/2022 2:41 PM] xalve.
Is there a motorsports meeting tonight?


[10/31/2022 10:23 AM] bllorente.
Hi guys,

I'm gonna start a project and I was wondering if by any chance I can get my van parked outside of the DMS , the back part obviously. Just for a few days. I'll need to work to get a few things done before getting the inspection done.

Is there any chance to get a permit that is just for a couple of days to get things done? Thank you


[10/31/2022 10:29 AM] nullinterface
• **Officially** : our lease prohibits overnight parking and we don't make a habit of drafting policies in violation of the lease
• **In reality** : keep it clean, don't work on it outside *(also prohibited in the lease)*, and you'll probably be fine.  keeping it operable will also allow you to depart the scene should they threaten to tow you.

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[10/31/2022 10:31 AM] nullinterface
also - saw one of the Amazon Rivian vans and it was surprisingly large


[11/6/2022 1:36 PM] nullinterface


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[11/6/2022 2:08 PM] nullinterface
Rivian vans being put to use in the area


[11/6/2022 4:26 PM] andrew5152
On our way to Austin yesterday we passed an 18 wheeler on the side of the road with two of these on its flatbed... wonder who delivers the 'Zon's deliveries....


[11/6/2022 4:38 PM] canibalcrab
GigaZon

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[11/10/2022 8:25 PM] nullinterface
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[11/16/2022 8:40 PM] andrew5152
Isn't that supposed to be a stork?


[11/17/2022 6:41 AM] kenpurcell
1 ton, that is one dense baby!


[11/22/2022 7:17 PM] nullinterface
Removing the trailer wheels was a nice added touch
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/you-trailer-will-be-towed/95148


[11/22/2022 10:13 PM] nullinterface
all of a sudden I want an electric side-by-side... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxu8cBrRjug&t=767s

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[11/22/2022 11:28 PM] themitch22
One of the best rich rebuilds projects besides their electric rat rod


[11/22/2022 11:52 PM] nullinterface
chain drive is a weak point


[11/22/2022 11:52 PM] nullinterface
as are seemingly all the Polaris drivetrain components


[11/23/2022 10:26 AM] themitch22
But this shows that EV systems are more than capable


[12/5/2022 7:38 PM] nullinterface
just call it "3D printed"

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[12/5/2022 7:39 PM] canibalcrab
I'm both impressed and scared

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[12/5/2022 7:40 PM] nullinterface
acceptable response


[12/8/2022 12:32 PM] nullinterface
amateur.  a pro would use a **steel** ziptie.

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[12/15/2022 2:33 PM] nullinterface
access ladders 😂

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[12/15/2022 3:59 PM] hon1nbo
What I want to know is if that "itty bitty" fella on the bottom left is for starting or watching timing.


[12/15/2022 4:00 PM] hon1nbo
It's cute


[12/15/2022 4:01 PM] nullinterface
in the right spot for starting, however I recall that marine diesels of that size generally use air starters.  an alternator perhaps.


[12/15/2022 4:11 PM] michaelb5250
looks like it's a 'turning gear' that's used to turn the engine over a few times to get some oil moving before attempting a start. starting would be done by injecting compressed air directly into the cylinders, no additional starter needed.


[12/15/2022 4:11 PM] michaelb5250
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[12/15/2022 4:11 PM] nullinterface
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[12/15/2022 8:39 PM] nullinterface
Oddly enough, I still find it a little exciting to see the rivian vans delivering for Amazon in my neighborhood


[12/15/2022 8:47 PM] canibalcrab
I'm totally down for service trucks being EV. I don't need to hear the loud ones anymore


[12/15/2022 10:12 PM] nullinterface
yeah.  I can hear the FedEx turbodiesels several streets away.


[12/17/2022 1:24 PM] bizwacky
I always just push start my ships, it's easiest if you park them on top of a waterslide

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[12/21/2022 11:03 PM] nullinterface
Don't really need to know ... much at all ... to see the problem there

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[12/21/2022 11:43 PM] dryad2b
Full of sparks, at any rate...


[12/31/2022 5:06 PM] nullinterface
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[1/1/2023 12:51 PM] kenpurcell
Chris Gains in the sheets, haaa!


[1/2/2023 5:03 PM] nullinterface
It's funny (and depressing) watching a certain demo lose their sh_t over the coming batch of electric trucks over how they're mediocre or objectively bad at traditional truck tasks - hauling, towing - when that hasn't been the primary market for compact, the new 'midsize' category, and even 1500-class trucks ... *for something like 30 years now*


[1/2/2023 5:05 PM] nullinterface
the average 'lifestyle truck' isn't hauling or towing or travelling 600 miles per day out in the boonies.  it's a commuter vehicle with its *trucky-ness* as a marketing feature whose underlying utility might be used ~quarterly.


[1/2/2023 5:46 PM] kenpurcell
Must have eyeball searing lightbar at just the right height for maximum aggression!


[1/2/2023 6:29 PM] nullinterface
if that's not a standard dealer option they're missing out on some revenue potential!

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[1/27/2023 3:24 PM] nullinterface
https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history

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[1/27/2023 3:35 PM] nullinterface
based on my observations around here, the fullsize quad-cab 1500-class truck has *long* been a favorite daily driver whose hauling duties are largely restricted to a semi-annual mulch run, towing perhaps pulling a boat or jetskis or quads to nearby recreation, and 'offroad' being tortured to include occasionally going *off pavement*


[1/29/2023 2:19 PM] andrew5152
>occasionally going *off pavement*
and usually unintentionally so
OMIGOD STACI! YOU TOTALLY HIT THAT CURB!
Like, what? What even IS a curb? For real.


[1/29/2023 2:45 PM] nullinterface
the number of trucks *(and SUVs and CUVs and whatever)* I see with ...
A) standard high-profile tires, and 
B) reasonable ground clearance
... that live in perpetual fear of the potential possibility of coming into contact with a curb is fkn unreal

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[1/29/2023 6:21 PM] andrew5152
URMIGOD! A SPEED BUMP
EEEEEEEEK!


[1/30/2023 2:33 PM] nullinterface


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[1/30/2023 2:48 PM] andrew5152
is that a Nissan Juke?


[1/30/2023 2:57 PM] nullinterface
...  sure ...


[1/30/2023 4:10 PM] bizwacky
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[5/5/2023 1:05 PM] hon1nbo
Anyone ever seen a Mercedes W124 4matic spring before?
It's wild.

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[5/5/2023 1:06 PM] bizwacky
Lol wut


[5/5/2023 1:34 PM] shipwrek
I think I just saw a thread on that on reddit


[5/5/2023 1:42 PM] shipwrek
I did!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/134wum2/behold_the_marvelous_german_engineering_that_is/

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[5/5/2023 3:25 PM] themitch22
I thought the 300D dictator ambassador cars were supposed to last 1mil miles.


[5/5/2023 3:37 PM] shipwrek
with at least 3 engine rebuilds?


[5/17/2023 8:06 PM] bizwacky
Calling all gearheads, automotive makers and modders and the kart curious to join in for DMS’s first Motorsports and Automotive themed open house, Makerkhana! https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/dms-inaugural-makerkhana/99180

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[5/18/2023 4:12 PM] bllorente.
For all people that want to bring car inside. 

Opener is locked out.

No eta yet


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[5/18/2023 4:49 PM] bizwacky
Fix is scheduled for Tuesday, waiting on a spring to be shipped

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[7/4/2023 12:29 PM] slinkygn
There's a pallet jack somewhere in the space, right? Or am I imagining things?


[7/4/2023 12:30 PM] slinkygn
A pallet was left in the automotive area at least since yesterday, juuuust intrusive enough to where two cars in will interfere with each other on the way out


[7/4/2023 12:30 PM] slinkygn
Wide boats, anyway... Like mine and the other one in there lol


[7/4/2023 12:44 PM] slinkygn
Nm, I just shoved the dang thing over. Hope nobody needs the press any time soon, I suppose... Probably lower traffic item than the bays, anyway. I'll write it up in Talk so somebody moves it to wherever it's supposed to go.


[7/4/2023 1:11 PM] canibalcrab
should be 2 jacks around

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[7/4/2023 6:10 PM] slinkygn
Thought so, and figured the expansion, but couldn't find them anywhere. I'm sure I just missed them, but disaster averted for now, so it's all good until the pallet gets broken down.


[12/17/2023 1:51 PM] audidood
Hi y'all, my name is Charles! I have a 2012 Audi A6 3.0T Quattro (C6) and am in desperate need of replacing some of my control arm bushings! Every shop I have received quotes from are asking $1k-$2k for the job and will not let me supply the parts as their insurance will not cover the installation of "aftermarket/customer-supplied-parts". Just was wondering if anyone in this group has ever done a job such as this before or even if anyone would be willing to help me with the removal/installation! I would be fine with paying you as well! Just let me know! Either reply to this message or send me a direct message and I will respond ASAP! Like I said, this job need to be done ASAP.. I bought the car over a month ago and have already put 5,500 miles on it in the past month. Not sure how long the bushings have been like this either so.. Let me know! Thank you!

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